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Speaker 1: On the Beck dol Cast, the questions asked if movies

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Speaker 1: have women in them? Are all their discussions just boyfriends

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Speaker 1: and husbands? Do they have individualism? The patriarchy? Zef and

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Speaker 1: best start changing it with the Beck del Cast. Hi,

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Speaker 1: welcome to the Beck Deel Cast. My name is Jamie

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Speaker 1: and this is our podcast about how women are portrayed

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Speaker 1: in movies. Hey, is it good? Usually no, almost never,

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Speaker 1: almost never, But sometimes a movie surprises us and it's like,

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Speaker 1: oh it wasn't it was like only terrible, but like

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Speaker 1: ten okay in its portrayal of women. And then sometimes

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Speaker 1: you're like, I'm tired, I'm tired, I'm tired of this,

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Speaker 1: I'm tired of this happening. I'm tired of this world.

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Speaker 1: Why do we have to have this discussion? But we

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Speaker 1: have to because someone has to, And and then you

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Speaker 1: just spiral are heroes. You're right, Jesus fucking christ Man.

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Speaker 1: What an exhausting time to be alive. Indeed, well, but

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Speaker 1: we're here, I don't know, maybe bring some levity to

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Speaker 1: anyone's life by yeah, sorry, yeah, but we're not supposed

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Speaker 1: to be the bummer podcast. Yeah, we're a fun We're

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Speaker 1: a fun lift up we're fun. We're fun. We're fun,

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Speaker 1: but sometimes we get piste off and you can just

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Speaker 1: had to be okay with it. It's an upsetting world.

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Speaker 1: We're allowed to have our feelings. Yeah, I've been drinking

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Speaker 1: a Mike's heart in days. What's going on? Ship, I

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Speaker 1: know that's what's going on. iBOT Crystally. We bought crystals, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we did. I bought like eight crystals. Bot. I didn't

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Speaker 1: just like, no, she's into it, She's going for well.

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Speaker 1: I figured crystal. I have a lot of things that

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Speaker 1: need addressed in my life, and I bought a crystal

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Speaker 1: for every issue. I bought crystals yesterday and I was

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Speaker 1: vibrating at a very high level. I walked for a

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Speaker 1: total of three hours. I had a panic attack. But

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm just I can't handle the energy of

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Speaker 1: the crystals yet, or maybe I should go back on

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Speaker 1: my bipolar medication. Hard to say. I bought the crystal,

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Speaker 1: feel good about it. Bought Picasso Jasper. I'm about to

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Speaker 1: start writing the Great American novel literally any second, literally

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Speaker 1: an It's on the tip of my tongue. I can't

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Speaker 1: wait to read we're so close. But yes, we bought crystals.

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Speaker 1: Totally fine, we can deal with it. Shout out to

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Speaker 1: all you crystal heads out here. We are become you. Yes,

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Speaker 1: we are among you, and speaking of like crystally we're

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Speaker 1: talking about. But before we even do that, let's introduce

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Speaker 1: our guests. She is the creator of Act Like a Girl,

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Speaker 1: which is a podcast. It's a live show. It's a

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Speaker 1: whole movement. It's a movement. As soon as you're done, Hello,

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Speaker 1: sorry I introduced you right as you were swallowing a

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Speaker 1: gulp of water. Also, I have to say I just

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Speaker 1: got given a bowl, like a pipe that's completely a crystal.

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Speaker 1: Whoa smoking and it gives you mental clarity or something. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's like two for one my brain chakras. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: we're here to talk about the craft. Yes, wait, the

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Speaker 1: craft of screenwriting, the craft spiking of I do have

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Speaker 1: a master's degree in it. I to bring up it.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to open it brought up because you want

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Speaker 1: to know what's exciting. There are still only three degrees between.

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Speaker 1: Oh well, now we're even. Now we're even, I'll give

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Speaker 1: you one. You know the podcast. Yeah, I've never used it. Okay,

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Speaker 1: keep it. Keep it, Dad will finally be proud of me.

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Speaker 1: It'll be great. So one wants to make a dad proud. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: that's so twentieth century right over it. When did you

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Speaker 1: first see this movie? What's your history with this movie? Oh? Man,

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Speaker 1: I mean I feel like I saw this in my teen,

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Speaker 1: it for the first time in college and then Jamie

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Speaker 1: three am last night. Yes, you've never seen it before.

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Speaker 1: you so much. So. It centers on these four girls, Sarah, Nancy, Bonnie,

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Speaker 1: Well Earth is Sarah was Earth? Right? Think I think

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Speaker 1: that's what they signed her to. Yeah, um yeah she

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Speaker 1: this Okay. So the big problem for me with this

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Speaker 1: these teenage goth adjacent misfits finding each other bonding. There's

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Speaker 1: click problems, but ultimately it's people in high school finding

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Speaker 1: think that's very cool. You know. Nev Campbell gets healed

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Speaker 1: Cast Skeets Character Arc. So, okay, So the first thing

423
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:43,159
Speaker 1: you see is like him talking to Sarah and he's like, oh,

424
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,480
Speaker 1: the old girls over there, the bitches of east Wick

425
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,120
Speaker 1: and the like slut shames Nancy and like we're like, oh,

426
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 1: I don't know, really, it's just like she's a slut. Yeah, yeah,

427
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:56,640
Speaker 1: I know how he feels. So he's like talking them

428
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 1: and then they go on a date. He and Sarah.

429
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 1: They're like flirting. He's like, oh, your head is good

430
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:08,119
Speaker 1: good for kissing? Can I? He asks Permis I know,

431
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,399
Speaker 1: I know not to do I know, and then and

432
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 1: I was like feminist Nikon Skeet asks permission to kill

433
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 1: ri He I was like, wow, this never we never said.

434
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 1: I literally said out loud less and I was like, God,

435
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 1: damn it, that's so sexy. And then he sucks it

436
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 1: all up, which is weird because he well, I mean

437
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,439
Speaker 1: she and she says no and he's like oh, and

438
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 1: then she's like, are you mad and he says no,

439
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,159
Speaker 1: and then you're like and then the scene cuts to

440
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,119
Speaker 1: the next day, You're like, well they do kiss? They did? Well,

441
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:45,919
Speaker 1: yeah they did, because but then totally adds validity to

442
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,679
Speaker 1: a story because his friends see them making out and

443
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 1: then they're leaving, so that's like key that, like they

444
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,400
Speaker 1: do kiss, because then everybody's like, well we saw them

445
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:58,959
Speaker 1: making out comes afterwards, right, because then he asks her

446
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 1: to go home right him, and she says no, and

447
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 1: he's seen he's like saying he's okay with it, But

448
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 1: the subtext of his tone and stuff like that is

449
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 1: he's annoyed and piste off that he will that she

450
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,639
Speaker 1: won't go home with him, So then he spreads the

451
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,680
Speaker 1: rumor that they slept together, and then she calls him

452
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 1: out on it. She's like, you're a lying sack of shit.

453
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,879
Speaker 1: Fuck you, and he's like really rude to her, and

454
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 1: then she's like, oh, I better cast a spell to

455
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,199
Speaker 1: make him like me. Even he also proved himself as

456
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,679
Speaker 1: a piece of ship. He also says like out like

457
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 1: he like yells so that everyone hears, just like I

458
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,919
Speaker 1: don't want to date you again or whatever, like just

459
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 1: to add even more relity to a shitty, shitty story

460
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 1: and its stupid pants. There is terrible pants in this

461
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 1: movie pants. So by the way, this movie, I just

462
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 1: want to say that this movie completely was passing the

463
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 1: backdel test until minute thirteen, which I love was really good.

464
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 1: That never happens and that has to happen one time.

465
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 1: And at minute thirteen they talk about how much they

466
00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 1: don't like the guys. That's like the first that that was.

467
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:02,680
Speaker 1: Another part I liked about the front half of this

468
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 1: movie is that at the beginning, when I mean, granted,

469
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:12,400
Speaker 1: do Nancy, Bonnie and Rochelle basically bully Sarah into being

470
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 1: their friend. Yes? Is that clicky and problematic? Yes, but

471
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 1: they're just come with us. They're like, you're our friend now,

472
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 1: which kind of happens in a more fun way and

473
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 1: mean girls. But but it's I mean, that's high school,

474
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 1: I guess, but you know, worth saying. But they sort

475
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 1: of look out for each other a little bit, where

476
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:36,439
Speaker 1: Nancy very in no uncertain terms, says, look out for Skeet.

477
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:40,120
Speaker 1: He's a predator. He'll hit on anyone with hits. Trust me,

478
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 1: he spreads disease right right, except Bonnie because she still

479
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,679
Speaker 1: has a middle part for like twenty more minutes and

480
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 1: then she'll start fucking anyone she wants. But and then

481
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,160
Speaker 1: when that happens and Sarah finds out the hard way,

482
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:58,640
Speaker 1: that's Skeets an asshole. Nancy sort of gloats a little bit,

483
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,640
Speaker 1: but ultimately doesn't shame where for it doesn't doubt her

484
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 1: story and why did I tell you? And that is

485
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 1: sort of what convinces Sarah, Okay, I'll be friends with

486
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 1: these girls because they warned me and I wanted to

487
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 1: learn anyways, which seems like a very teenage girl move.

488
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,199
Speaker 1: And then you know, now I have a reason to

489
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,400
Speaker 1: trust them. And so that was I was like, that's

490
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 1: a you know, pretty solid friendship bonding moment, and I

491
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 1: liked that. It was like one of My favorite parts

492
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 1: of them coming together Light as a feather stuff is

493
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,919
Speaker 1: a board scene. Amazing, I'm so good. I'm obsessed that

494
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 1: scene because it's it's like, it's the best and you

495
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 1: and they started doing like the like mid to late

496
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 1: nineties almost pretty matrix e kind of technology where you

497
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 1: see the three sixties shot like we just want to

498
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 1: prove that, you know, there's not some weird things. She's

499
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 1: laying on a green block, but I like it looks

500
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:54,920
Speaker 1: so real, it's exciting. It's man, Yeah, that was cool.

501
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 1: I left that scene. Yeah. So then where skeets are

502
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,640
Speaker 1: Lands is that he gets spell cast on him, he

503
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 1: falls in love with her and starts stalking her. Then

504
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 1: this rise to rape Sarah. But that but by then

505
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 1: it's the second half of the movie where where it

506
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 1: seems like all the harmless slash very little harm done

507
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 1: they do in the first half that's fun to watch

508
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,120
Speaker 1: suddenly comes back on them threefold in the second half,

509
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,679
Speaker 1: and I feel like punishes female characters unnecessarily everything post

510
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:31,360
Speaker 1: the invoking in summoning of Yeah, that's when things take

511
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,439
Speaker 1: a turn. So then he tries to rape her, she

512
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,160
Speaker 1: runs away, and then Nancy's like, we're going to get

513
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 1: revenge on this guy. So she goes and and like

514
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 1: puts a lot of unwanted sexual contact on him and

515
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 1: then turns into s and has sex name and that

516
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 1: could probably be considered rape, Like did they have sex sex? Though?

517
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 1: I mean, it seems like it's like they were to

518
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 1: write and that. But that's another like selling out of

519
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 1: a character they just didn't like. That didn't make sense

520
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 1: to me other than once Nancy had momented power, like

521
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 1: she just wanted to use it to cause chaos, to

522
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 1: hurt anybody, like and well, I mean, I don't know

523
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 1: because at first, when she said I'm going to go

524
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 1: get revenge on him, I was like, all right, this

525
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 1: seems like something this character would do because she's piste

526
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 1: off and wants to take care of it, probably in

527
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 1: a chaotic way, but then ends up having totally selfish motives.

528
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 1: That's like, I don't I don't really believe that. The

529
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 1: scene ends with him getting magic to death out of

530
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,719
Speaker 1: a window, like pushed by magic out of a window.

531
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 1: But he died. I think he died. Does he did die? Okay?

532
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 1: I was when I couldn't remember, could just start there,

533
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 1: just kill him? I mean honestly that his death scene didn't.

534
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 1: The sex scene that precedes it is very problematic and

535
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 1: confusing and just like, oh, what are the ethics of this?

536
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 1: But his death scene I really liked. That's the problem

537
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 1: is that she like quite literally asked for it, you

538
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like our a big issue was

539
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 1: talking about rape culture as well, she was asking for it,

540
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 1: like she quite literally, Yeah, she like literally asked for

541
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 1: him to fall head over heels in love with her,

542
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 1: not to rape her. Obviously, No, no, what I'm saying.

543
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 1: And that's that's why it's And that spell was so

544
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 1: fun at first two or it's just like he was

545
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 1: just like I want to carry your books. Why can't

546
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 1: I stop thinking about you? I'm stupid. I'm stupid. I'm stupid.

547
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 1: And it's like, great, this checks out, he's stupid. Backfires, Yeah,

548
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 1: and then the whole threefold thing comes in and just

549
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 1: every repercussion of the threefold thing I just just didn't

550
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 1: work for me at all. Like there's no world in

551
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 1: which because Sarah cast a goofy spell in an already

552
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 1: misguided attempt to make an asshole like her, there's no

553
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 1: way that she deserved that come up and of being

554
00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 1: a sat no. And Rochelle's arc of at the end

555
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 1: when you know she's doing a bad thing and she's

556
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: kind of mindlessly following Nancy for reasons that I didn't understand.

557
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 1: She and Bonnie look in the mirror and Bonnie has scars,

558
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 1: and then and then Rachelle's somehow going bald because she

559
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 1: retaliated against a racist, which is like, no, she that

560
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 1: was allowed. That was allowed. I just I don't know

561
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 1: every racist should go bald, like the should fly out

562
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 1: of a wind get thrown out of the window. Man.

563
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 1: I really did like Skeet's death scene. It was what

564
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 1: did you say? She said, You're sorry, She's like shaking,

565
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 1: and then he just like you know, explodes. But I

566
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 1: agree with Caitlin that it like totally negates the validity

567
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 1: of it all by then raping him before doing that.

568
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 1: It's such a bummer that his whole arc plays out,

569
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: didn't say way, especially because it starts out with him

570
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 1: asking for consent to kiss her like don't like don't

571
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 1: and that's shy is under a spell. Yeah, So if

572
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: you're going to set up that type of behavior, then

573
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 1: don't make that character actually end up being a gross

574
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 1: because that's like the major that we should so many

575
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 1: characters in this movie a troubled but possibly not irredeemable character,

576
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 1: and then at the end they're just totally like nope.

577
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,959
Speaker 1: And I remember like rewatching this movie when I was

578
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 1: becoming more feminism aware, you know, and thinking to myself, like,

579
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 1: I kept hoping because I think I kind of forgot

580
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: plat points, and I kept hoping that she would like

581
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: be wanting him to follow so how to reveals in

582
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 1: love with her, to like then teach him a proper left,

583
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 1: like a good lesson. But then it just really was

584
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: because she just wanted him to like her, and I

585
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 1: was like, damn it. And almost immediately once he starts

586
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 1: to like her, she's over it. She's just like, oh, well, well,

587
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 1: it goes back to my point of like two of

588
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 1: the like desires of the girls are like I want

589
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,719
Speaker 1: to be hotter and I want a boy to like me.

590
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 1: And it's like, you, I guess you could argue, that's sure,

591
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: that's what they're they're teenagers, that's what teenagers. But I

592
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 1: would counter argue that we're socialized to think that that's

593
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 1: all teenage girls are capable of or should care about

594
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 1: or do care about, which one of them wishes that

595
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: racism would no longer exist, and that's good really, like

596
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 1: Rochelle kills it in the wish department. Everyone else does

597
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 1: kind of also like kind of feels bad about it too,

598
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 1: which is sad, like she should just be like, yeah,

599
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 1: suck you, you're bald to deal with it, you know.

600
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 1: But I think that that's interesting too, which again is

601
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 1: why it's such a bummer in the end when she's

602
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 1: just like a crazy bitch too, yeah, I mean, and

603
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: and really like, yeah, selling out developed female character to

604
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 1: be a crazy bitch is just such a move. Also

605
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 1: a small character for Sarah Um she's sort of Disney

606
00:33:56,320 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 1: princessed a little bit by no mom. She has mom,

607
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 1: and there's sort of this the specter of her mom

608
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 1: is sort of being you know the whole time. I

609
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 1: totally about that, but only because of you, because of

610
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 1: what you bring up always on back Toel cast I

611
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 1: was like, oh, yeah, we're changing lives, we're here, we're

612
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 1: hero But but that occurred and then I don't know,

613
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 1: I mean, I wasn't dissatisfied with how that was brought

614
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 1: back at the end with the name of the witch

615
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 1: at the Witch Store is Lerio, which is a Spanish

616
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:37,800
Speaker 1: word for lily um. But at the end when Sarah

617
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 1: almost sort of seeks out Lerio as like a maternal

618
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 1: figure of like, here's a woman who knows something I

619
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 1: don't and I need help and I'm scared. Mom, it

620
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 1: goes goes to Leria and Lerio is you know, it

621
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 1: adds in and she really is kind of like the

622
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 1: witch ex Makina at the correct moment in the movie, right, Oh,

623
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 1: she has all the information and turns old Sarah will

624
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 1: be fine no matter what, and you know, and then

625
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 1: we get to see that weird climactic scene but she

626
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,240
Speaker 1: says like whatever, she's like and your mother was a witch?

627
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 1: Did you know that? And Sara was like no, and

628
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:16,760
Speaker 1: she said, well she was. You're like, well that's great,

629
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:21,760
Speaker 1: don't she know she's the witch at she does everything?

630
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 1: She does it all? Yeah, that was that was a

631
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,839
Speaker 1: weird what did she do? That was helpful in that scene?

632
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 1: Genuine question because doesn't it just end with like the

633
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 1: shop blowing up and then that's it. But then it

634
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 1: doesn't like it because because it looks like it's exploding

635
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 1: and us like it's it's Nancy. So she runs away

636
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,439
Speaker 1: because she's still being tormented by Nancy. Yeah, I mean

637
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: that character the Witch Story lady doesn't really do anything

638
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:51,359
Speaker 1: except maybe give her the confidence later on to realize, hey,

639
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 1: I can invoke. It was nice to see a maternal

640
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 1: moment for Sarah. Maybe that was like supposed to just

641
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 1: be like, oh, she gives her a strength or something.

642
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 1: Oh I did like that. Sarah repeatedly tries to not

643
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: kill Nancy, which after a certain amount of misdeeds, would

644
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 1: have been legit, you know, And I think a lot

645
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 1: of movies would have just made that easier move, but

646
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 1: is repeatedly trying to make counter spells to be like

647
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 1: I don't want Nancy to hurt anyone else, and I

648
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: don't want her to hurt herself. So you're just like, well,

649
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 1: that's a good look it out. And also I don't

650
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,240
Speaker 1: know if I would have had that sort of frustraint,

651
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 1: I'd be like, get rid of her. Why is she

652
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 1: so mean now? But she just why It makes no

653
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 1: sense to me that, like, if that's her character, she

654
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 1: wants goodwill to what everyone, and like she's looking out

655
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 1: for people, why then does she choose to make this

656
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 1: boy like her as her like mainly story. Maybe she

657
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 1: learned from that and learned even that choice though, Like

658
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: it's why if he had wronged her, why didn't she

659
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 1: cast a spell to make his dick tiny fall off

660
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 1: or stop working or something, yeah, like or just a

661
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 1: counter about yeah something something. But yeah, it was just

662
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 1: a weird choice that if this had been written and

663
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 1: directed by women, I feel like I was also very

664
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,919
Speaker 1: sad when all the sharks washed up on the Yeah,

665
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,840
Speaker 1: what a weird I forgot about that. That was like,

666
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: you're making me feel bad for sharks. I like, that's head.

667
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: There's just a million of them, and she's like their gifts, Like,

668
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:36,839
Speaker 1: what fucked up? Nancy? That's that's pretty much exactly where

669
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,399
Speaker 1: the movie lost me, because from that scene on, it's

670
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 1: just like, well, I hope you enjoyed the first part,

671
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 1: no sense, Like when they because they do the sands right,

672
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 1: and like all the glass things explode and all the

673
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: animals go out and whatever, and then Nev Campbell is

674
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: like sitting on the rock watching Rochelle's character is taking

675
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 1: a beautiful nap, and then Nancy is walking across the

676
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:05,800
Speaker 1: water and it's like what happened happened. Oh, here's another.

677
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 1: Because there's not a lot of male characters in this movie,

678
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: which amazing, most of them end up dead by the end,

679
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,879
Speaker 1: and the remaining ones the one character. I don't know why,

680
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: I was like harping on this in my head. I'm like, man,

681
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 1: it's crazy that that character wasn't a perfect the gym teacher,

682
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,320
Speaker 1: the swim coach. Oh yeah, where there is the moment

683
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 1: where like he definitely like when Laura Lily or what

684
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: is her name, Laura, Laura, which is which is the

685
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:39,760
Speaker 1: popular girl when she like, you know, when she takes

686
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 1: off her cap and her hair is falling out, and

687
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 1: then he like it's literally like he's like, oh, she's

688
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: not hot anymore, so I won't pay attention to her.

689
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 1: Let me look over here. And then he sees her

690
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 1: do like the perfect dive, and it's it's like, now

691
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 1: he pays attention to the girl, the only girl of

692
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 1: color in the whole fucking field. I guess I didn't

693
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 1: see it that way because he scolded Laura once before

694
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 1: where Laura was making fun. But I don't think you

695
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: did enough in my opinion. Well, he's also a character

696
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 1: who's on screen for like eleven seconds in the whole movie.

697
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 1: I think I was. I was lightly impressed by him.

698
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:15,479
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean between um, Nancy's gross stepdad who

699
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: has a heart attack and dies, Skeet who dies, and

700
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,399
Speaker 1: the snake man at the beginning it was run over

701
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,320
Speaker 1: by a car. Yeah, it's like half the men because

702
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 1: the other The only other male characters with speaking roles

703
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:29,439
Speaker 1: in the movie are Chris's friends. Who is that tiny friend?

704
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:32,320
Speaker 1: He's okay, I was like, I know who that guy is,

705
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 1: who's that tiny? In Clueless? He plays Murphy's uh, And

706
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 1: then I don't even know the other dude. One of

707
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 1: them is Mint and one of them is Trey. I

708
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 1: think I don't even know which ones which they are,

709
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 1: which is great, Yeah, right, exactly, like I don't know

710
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 1: what these characters are the same, the represent the same too. Yeah. Yeah.

711
00:39:55,760 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 1: He plays Bernie Murphy's love interest in Clueless. Yea, So

712
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 1: I would argue that of the both male and female

713
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 1: characters in this movie, of the women who aren't portrayed

714
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 1: all that well, neither any of the men. Like all

715
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,839
Speaker 1: the men except for like Sarah's dad, who hardly has

716
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 1: screen time and it's kind of awesome. He is such

717
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 1: a good dad. And then when she there's like a

718
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 1: scene where she's like laying a boundary. She's like, don't

719
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 1: touch me, go away, and he's like, okay, yeah he does, like,

720
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 1: oh man, that definitely happened. And when my dad at

721
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 1: some point he just like sunk off. Yeah, he was like, well,

722
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 1: the teenage girls are confusing. And then when he's like

723
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 1: dropping because you know, clearly we established that, they look

724
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 1: at her wrists and they're like, oh, you cut it

725
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,720
Speaker 1: the right way, So we clearly established that, like probably

726
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 1: part of why they left San Francisco is because she

727
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: tried to commit suicide. Decidit right. And then when he's

728
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 1: dropping her off at school, he's like, you know, you

729
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 1: don't have to go right away, like we can, you know,

730
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,879
Speaker 1: settle in. You can take some time off. And that's

731
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 1: another positive part of their friendship I thought, is that

732
00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 1: she's not shamed or pushed to be asked questions about that,

733
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,760
Speaker 1: where Nancy's just like punk rock right, and then like, okay,

734
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:08,280
Speaker 1: we accept you. You're a friend. And I was like, man, cool, okay, cool,

735
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 1: but I don't know that. Man. Another fun moment in

736
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 1: the half of the movie that I liked Yeah. Does

737
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 1: anyone have any final thoughts about the movie? Just that

738
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 1: this was written and directed by white guys obviously in

739
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 1: case you couldn't have assumed that off the fact that

740
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 1: it's a movie that was released. Yeah, I mean, I

741
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:31,479
Speaker 1: think it's just exciting that it. They don't really talk

742
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 1: about boys that they like, really true, there are none

743
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: to like. Yeah, and so I think that that's an

744
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 1: exciting part of it. But yeah, I think it's just

745
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 1: a bummer that it. But they're redoing it, right, aren't they.

746
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 1: I heard that that they're what they're thinking about redoing it,

747
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: which I'm like, let's cast Susie Dennis Sarah and let's

748
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,800
Speaker 1: have it be written by a woman interacted by a woman.

749
00:41:55,840 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the Craft reboot is right, actually a sequel.

750
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: Oh that's well, that's cool. Or just stop rebooting things

751
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 1: and write another movie about witchy teenagers. It's true, speaking

752
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 1: of characters talking to each other about things, this movie

753
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 1: definitely does pass the backdel test. It basically passes immediately.

754
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:21,919
Speaker 1: I mean they're not talking to each other, but they're

755
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 1: like doing a seance and it's three Yeah. Yeah, I mean,

756
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 1: like I mean this in terms of passing the test.

757
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 1: A million times as that's it's almost like the opposite

758
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 1: of the test. Like the boys are the characters that

759
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,360
Speaker 1: are like obsessed with the girls and are like only

760
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:41,399
Speaker 1: ever talking about girls, and men rarely talk to each other.

761
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 1: There's only a few scenes where there's like two men

762
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 1: talking to and they're talking about usually about how they

763
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 1: super love a girl or how do they super think

764
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:55,359
Speaker 1: she fucking sucks blah blah. But they're all punished, so

765
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 1: that's important. Yeah, I mean most of the time they're

766
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 1: talking about spells in magic and like all they like

767
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 1: what their inner conflex with each other are. Like, this

768
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 1: movie very much goes along with the theme of the

769
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 1: more a movie he passes the Bechdel test, the more

770
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:14,879
Speaker 1: it tends to be financially successful. Budget of this movie

771
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 1: fifteen million, box office fifty six million. All right, so

772
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 1: there you go. Maybe right, a female even if you

773
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 1: kind of sunk up the second half, still right, right,

774
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 1: female characters. Yeah, let's write the movie on our nipple scale,

775
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 1: um zero to five nipples based on its portrayal of

776
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 1: women who this is This is a tricky one. This

777
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 1: is tricky because it's doing a lot of things right.

778
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:41,959
Speaker 1: It's a female centered movie about female friendships. At least

779
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 1: they're friends for the first part of it until that

780
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 1: all goes to ship. But well, it is very upsetting

781
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 1: to me that the male character who asks permission to

782
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 1: kiss a girl, because at least half of the movies

783
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 1: we talk about there's a surprise kiss and yeah, and

784
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 1: it's like whoa or like yeah. So I was like, oh,

785
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,760
Speaker 1: he's going to be because I couldn't remember much about

786
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 1: this movie. So when I was rewatching it, I was like, Wow,

787
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 1: he is he a good guy? Are we supposed to

788
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 1: like him? I like him right now? And then every

789
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 1: story beat after that it's like, oh no, he's a

790
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 1: nightmare person. So yeah, there's the female friendships, and for

791
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,359
Speaker 1: the most part at the beginning, they're uplifting each other

792
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 1: and they're supporting each other. And the movie isn't specifically,

793
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,879
Speaker 1: there's not about the goal. Isn't there trying to win

794
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 1: over a man's love or anything like that. They're basically

795
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 1: just trying to get better at witchcraft and the women

796
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:39,320
Speaker 1: in magic. Women in Magic, although it is like, okay,

797
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 1: is a man to keep using the heat pronoun So

798
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 1: it's like, all right, why couldn't it be like a goddess,

799
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 1: especially because they're basically describing Mother Nature. I'm like, why

800
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 1: is he? Especially when they have Sarah then say Mother Earth?

801
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 1: Like why wouldn't if they're putting that pinnacle thing and

802
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:01,919
Speaker 1: they have her say that last? You know? So I

803
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 1: think it had a lot of potential, but the movie,

804
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:10,400
Speaker 1: especially by the end, whenever all the girls have basically

805
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,879
Speaker 1: turned on each other and it's not, you know, this

806
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:17,439
Speaker 1: feminist masterpiece that we're all hoping for anymore. I'm gonna

807
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 1: give it, I guess like two and a half snipples.

808
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:26,800
Speaker 1: I almost said stars, but ye I know, but stars

809
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 1: are five pointed things, which is like a very witchy thing.

810
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 1: The pentagram? Is that what it's called? I think? So

811
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:36,879
Speaker 1: let me can sell my crystals and oh my gosh,

812
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 1: I brought my crystals still my neckpack. Well wait, I

813
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 1: have to see them. Okay, okay, right now, let me

814
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 1: see smr rattle them. Oh my god, wait where did

815
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 1: you guys go to get these? Intuition? Yeah, I work

816
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 1: that's over here. Fun. Yeah, So I am going to

817
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 1: give it. I'll give it three. Maybe i'd give it

818
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:07,320
Speaker 1: to that half. It's a bummer because all the characters

819
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 1: have so much agency there, with the exception of I

820
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 1: wish we had seen Rochelle's home life. I think it's

821
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 1: really bizarre that the only person to come are in

822
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,720
Speaker 1: the whole movie doesn't have a home life. So dumb.

823
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 1: But I mean, even excluding that, we're given a background

824
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 1: for all these female characters and then they turn out

825
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 1: to be crazy. They turn out to be what, Like,

826
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 1: there's just the second half of this movie. It was

827
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 1: a big disappointment. But in the first half of the

828
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 1: movie we see so much more of fully developed female

829
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 1: character than when we would see in almost any other movie,

830
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 1: So it's hard. Nancy is kind of one of the

831
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 1: bigger bummers for me because it's just like she's the

832
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 1: child of an alcoholic and then ends up in a

833
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 1: mental asylum. Like that is not a good message. It's

834
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 1: bad we don't find out what happens to her mom

835
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 1: or whatever. Yeah, it was I really enjoyed the first

836
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 1: half of this movie. If you have and to fall

837
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 1: asleep in the middle, don't rewind it, like you probably

838
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 1: saw the fun part. I'll give it two and a

839
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 1: half nipples. I'll give one to Rochelle, I'll give one

840
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 1: and Nancy, and then I'll give half a nippy to

841
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 1: the gym teacher who didn't bother me. Well, yeah, I

842
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 1: didn't give my nipples away. Um, there aren't any cats

843
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:26,760
Speaker 1: in this movie, so I don't know which is weird.

844
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 1: There's a million given to those discorpions, nipples, spiders, Spiders

845
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 1: have eight legs. This has been spider facts with Caitlin,

846
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 1: just like how cats have eight nipples. I wish this

847
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 1: movie was about four witches who like people wronged them

848
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 1: in like that they were racist toward them or that

849
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 1: they were like assaulting them and they're like, I'm going

850
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 1: to get revenge and then they get revenge and then

851
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 1: the world's a better place. That's what this movie should

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00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 1: be about. I don't know why, all right it alrite

853
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:03,359
Speaker 1: that movie anyway? Would you like to write the movie? Yeah?

854
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 1: I mean I think you guys are spot on with

855
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 1: two and a half. Like I think that there are

856
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 1: so many things that it it did well and then

857
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 1: it like all of a sudden just like flipped and

858
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 1: did it bad like and then you know again like

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00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 1: this stuff with Rochelle, Like, yeah, I think that it

860
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 1: was really strong and cool show that black girls do

861
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 1: deal with white girls being racist to them in high school.

862
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 1: But then they don't show her home life, and they

863
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 1: like only make her like the two D character of

864
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: the four other girls that they kind of make three.

865
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:34,359
Speaker 1: I feel like she has lines, yeah, I think, and

866
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 1: they don't have anybody else of color to like back

867
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 1: her up, and then they like give the girl a

868
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:42,760
Speaker 1: family to give more than a front door exactly. Yeah,

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00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 1: so yeah, I think two and a half nipples is

870
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 1: a good rating. Who gets your nips? Oh man? Okay,

871
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,399
Speaker 1: well yeah, definitely. I think Rochelle gets one of them

872
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 1: for sure. I think the like store owner definitely gets one,

873
00:48:55,800 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 1: which x Mankina. And then also I think that probably

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00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 1: Sarah's stepmom could get that happ nipple because I mean

875
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:08,320
Speaker 1: she's not really in the movie, but she like clearly

876
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 1: is very supportive of them and like she uprooted her

877
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 1: life because of what happened with Sarah and she gets

878
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 1: on that eight minute flight. I feel like it's like

879
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 1: a good, healthy family relationship, yea, even though I mean

880
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: there's a lot of speculating. Yeah, yeah, it's but you know,

881
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 1: that's what you have to do with most movies to

882
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 1: fill in the blanks. So I wonder what this female

883
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:33,800
Speaker 1: character must be like, well, a positively depiction of the stepmom.

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00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,359
Speaker 1: It's pretty yeah, yeah, because I feel like there's so

885
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 1: many like times in real life and in in movies

886
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 1: and stories where like, yeah, the step mom is like

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00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 1: horrible and like wouldn't even let the dad like have

888
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 1: that relationship with that supports the Disney Trump a little bit.

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Speaker 1: That's nice. Yeah. Well, Susie, thanks so much for being here, guys,

890
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:57,359
Speaker 1: thanks for having me. Where can people follow you online? Well,

891
00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 1: you guys can check out Act Like a Girl. As

892
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 1: we said before, are all the handles for socials for

893
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,919
Speaker 1: that are at Act Like a Girl TV, and then

894
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 1: my personal handle is Underscore Boss, which amazing. Yeah cool,

895
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 1: cool cool. You can follow the Betel cast on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook,

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00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 1: our website, iTunes, rate It Reviews, Spotify. Sure we're not

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Speaker 1: stopping your stitcher, dot com I think, or maybe it's

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Speaker 1: an app. I think it's an app. Okay. Probably has

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Speaker 1: a website still though probably if you type you probably

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Speaker 1: won't be poored. Probably a website where you can maybe

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Speaker 1: better podcast and also Earth, Fire, Wind, and Water. Which

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Speaker 1: one are you? Fire? Aristyle is Earth? Susie your water

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Speaker 1: and Jamie you got I bud? Thanks