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Speaker 1: kind of fell in love with it and I just

426
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 1: kind of kept around for this second set. Nice. So

427
00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:00,679
Speaker 1: the first thing I actually wanted to ask you was

428
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 1: I was, like I said, looking back on the episodes

429
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 1: that we had you on five years back, they were like,

430
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,359
Speaker 1: in the process of building a house that cater to

431
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,679
Speaker 1: your injuries, is that completely done now? And I'd like

432
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 1: to know, like how it's holding up. And everything. Oh no,

433
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 1: it's a beautiful home. I'm you know, um, come October.

434
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,400
Speaker 1: I've been in the house for five years, so uh,

435
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,680
Speaker 1: it's it's like going home to a retreat. So I'll

436
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 1: go on the road for work and then I get

437
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,200
Speaker 1: to come home to this beautiful home and I feel

438
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 1: very blessed because of it. Can you talk a little

439
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 1: bit about what it is because it's especially made for

440
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 1: you know, uh, and I think you guys also build

441
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,680
Speaker 1: those houses for others right there. Um, they're they're called

442
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:48,200
Speaker 1: smart homes. Yes, they're they're called smart homes. And basically

443
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,200
Speaker 1: what we mean by smart homes is, uh, we cater

444
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 1: the home to the individual and their pacific needs. So uh,

445
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 1: you know, other organizations had approached me to build me

446
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 1: a house, but they always wanting to give me a

447
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,959
Speaker 1: wheelchair house. And I'm like, Okay, that's great, but what

448
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 1: are you gonna do for my process that hands? Like,

449
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:07,640
Speaker 1: what's gonna make it easier for me? And they're like, well,

450
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 1: we really don't do that. I'm like, well, then that's

451
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 1: why would I take a house that's not going to

452
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 1: be catered to me? And that's the unique thing about

453
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 1: these homes. The Gary Sneeze Foundation through our Riots program

454
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 1: which stands for Restoring Independence, Supporting Empowerment, and it really does.

455
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 1: We we get into it. We help the veteran designed

456
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 1: the home for their needs. They get to pick the location. Um,

457
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 1: and then we throw a little bit of technology and

458
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:35,959
Speaker 1: it might help it. So the whole house runs off

459
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 1: on iPads. You don't have to find a bunch of remotes.

460
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,399
Speaker 1: You can run it off your phone. Um. You know,

461
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 1: we're now in the age of technology and it it

462
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 1: really can make things easier. And is this uh what

463
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,679
Speaker 1: foundation did? UH did build this house for you in

464
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:57,359
Speaker 1: the end, the Gary Sneeze and Build line as well.

465
00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 1: So just just to kind of give you the back

466
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,680
Speaker 1: way of of you know, my relationship with the Gary

467
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 1: snee Foundation is really started with my friendship with Gary

468
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,679
Speaker 1: before he officially launched his own foundation, when he was

469
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,399
Speaker 1: giving back to other organizations and that was back in

470
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:15,640
Speaker 1: the summer, and then they got their official five oh

471
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 1: one C three and twenty eleven and in twelve was

472
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 1: really their first big year just to go full steam,

473
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 1: and he had brought me in UH as an ambassador,

474
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 1: and basically an ambassador is a handpicked volunteered by Gary

475
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 1: Gary get you know, um goes into his network and

476
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 1: finds people that shares his passion, his vision and you know,

477
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 1: wants to get back to both the veteran and the

478
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 1: first responding communities. And so I was very honored in

479
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:46,119
Speaker 1: uh early twelve to become an ambassador for him, and

480
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:50,199
Speaker 1: then of course, you know, I received my home and

481
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,160
Speaker 1: then a couple of years ago, UM I was when

482
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,119
Speaker 1: I retired from the military in twenty ten. I had

483
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 1: started my own speaking company and really it was just

484
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,119
Speaker 1: offset my time so I could do the thing that

485
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 1: I love the most, and that's you know, veteran accuracy work.

486
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 1: And uh, it kind of got to the point where

487
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 1: I didn't want to do that anymore. I wasn't really

488
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,920
Speaker 1: thrilled and just going into corporate America and doing my thing.

489
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,919
Speaker 1: So I decided to sell the company. And literally the

490
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: next day after I saw the company, Gary called me

491
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,360
Speaker 1: and offered me the position at the foundation full time. Wow,

492
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,199
Speaker 1: that that sounds like a story of the right you know,

493
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 1: thing happening at the right time for you. And I

494
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 1: would also imagine doing the speaking engagement thing. It's probably,

495
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,879
Speaker 1: I don't know, just gets exhausting telling your story of

496
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,360
Speaker 1: what happened to you again and again and again. I mean,

497
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 1: you know, at a certain point you want to move

498
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: on with your life and enjoy yourself and inspire other

499
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:44,719
Speaker 1: people in other ways, I would think, Um, I agree

500
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: with it. I mean in the aspect that tone your

501
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 1: story is exhausting, for the fact that every time you

502
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 1: tell your story, you basically relive it over and over

503
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: and over. You know, when I talked about losing my

504
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,160
Speaker 1: guys or you know, being almost burned alive. I mean,

505
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 1: those are all things that relived every time I told it.

506
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 1: I was fortunate for I had a little bit more

507
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 1: control of you know, did I want to go into

508
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,199
Speaker 1: a place to have what I call story time or

509
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 1: was it more leadership based? And I started towards me

510
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 1: and doing a lot more in the leadership side than

511
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,719
Speaker 1: story time. Yeah, I've I've heard the same thing from

512
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,640
Speaker 1: Dakota Meyer, you know, and he's a guy like when

513
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 1: he came on the podcast, he was like, he actually

514
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 1: doesn't take as much I don't even know if you'd

515
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 1: say pride or what in being a Medal of Honor recipient,

516
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 1: And he was like, yeah, just keep it in a

517
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 1: box somewhere and he's not. He's like, yeah, I'm not

518
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 1: until like just being a Medal of Honor recipient and

519
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 1: this defining everything in my wife, and it's like, you know,

520
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 1: I don't want to keep reliving this day that I,

521
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 1: as he puts it, he's like, I knew I was

522
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 1: going to die. He didn't die, but that's how he

523
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 1: felt in his mind. And I think for me, you know,

524
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 1: just to kind of add a little bit to that, is,

525
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 1: you know, when when people get out the military, whether

526
00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 1: they did four years or ten years or twenty year,

527
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 1: forty years, whatever it is, you know, they go through

528
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 1: this identity crisis and you know, you've lived it every

529
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 1: day of your life. You're you're this, You're this soldier,

530
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 1: you're this veteran, you know, your Marine airman, whatever it is,

531
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: whatever branch you chose to servant um and there's a

532
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 1: little bit of the uncertainty of who you really are.

533
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 1: And Yeah, the one of the things I always say is,

534
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: you know I struggled with that, but I also come

535
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 1: to realize, Um, I'm a lot more than just being

536
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 1: a veteran. You know, I'm a good friend. You know,

537
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 1: I've been in the business world. Uh, you know, I'm

538
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,719
Speaker 1: a veteran advocate. I'm a veteran, like I have a

539
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 1: bunch of titles. So I just didn't want to be

540
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 1: known as one thing. I didn't want to be known

541
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 1: as just a disabled veteran. You know, I don't even

542
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 1: classify myself as a disabled veteran. I just called myself

543
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 1: a veteran. It's uh, And it's amazing some of the

544
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 1: work that you've been able to do, you know, with

545
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 1: and and through the Garysonese Foundation and also Karl Monger's

546
00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 1: group Gallant few Um. And I noticed to Gary Sinise

547
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 1: has a book out recently, doesn't he. Yeah, So he

548
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 1: just launched his new book last month in February called

549
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 1: Grateful American, and he really tells his story of how

550
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 1: well one his life, like why he chose acting, how

551
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 1: he fell into acting, how he fell into supporting veterans.

552
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 1: And you know, one of the misconceptions is that everybody

553
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 1: thinks that he started giving back to the vegean community

554
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 1: after Forrest Gump when he played Lieutenant Dan. But really

555
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 1: he's been giving back to our community for over forty years.

556
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 1: And so the book's done really well. He just finished

557
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 1: up a month long book tour, and now the book

558
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 1: is on New York's bestseller list at number three. Ave wow,

559
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 1: good for him. Yeah, that the guy is amazing. He

560
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: doesn't stop. I've really only heard positive things about the guy.

561
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 1: I mean, it was the same thing when we had

562
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 1: Michael Broderick on, as I said, he spoke really highly

563
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 1: of you, and then spoke Kylie Gary Sinise and he

564
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 1: was like, you know that, he kind of saying how

565
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 1: his schedule is just so packed, and he was like,

566
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 1: you know, try to get him on the show. You'll see.

567
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,479
Speaker 1: It's really good because we never have. But it sounds

568
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 1: like he's just devoted his life to this cause now

569
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 1: of helping guys like yourself and raising awareness for you

570
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 1: know what our troops have been through. No absolutely, and

571
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 1: you know what he calls it is our defenders and

572
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 1: and in the word defenders, he also incorporates you know,

573
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 1: the first responders, the police, the firefighters, you know, the

574
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 1: people who basically risk their lives so that we can

575
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 1: live our lives, so that we want to. So you

576
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: know what I'm I'm interested in since you're you know,

577
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 1: so involved in hands on in veteran advocacy and what's

578
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 1: being done in the community. This is actually the first

579
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 1: time we've had you on since the Trump presidency, and

580
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 1: you know, you hear a lot of platitudes about you know,

581
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 1: changes that are being done at the v A and

582
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 1: and different types of bills that are being passed. It's

583
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 1: a gallant few um posting something actually about under the

584
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 1: Trump and illustration them opening up UM, like experimental things

585
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 1: for for veterans suffering from PTSD and other things. Have

586
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 1: you seen any difference in the past couple of years

587
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 1: under Trump than under Obama, for better or or for worse.

588
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I think there's always changes, but I don't

589
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 1: know if it's because of the administrations or if it's

590
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 1: because that's what the climate change. It needs to be. UM.

591
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 1: You know, every day we realize that veterans need different

592
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 1: kinds of support, whether it's mental health, physical, UM attributes

593
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 1: and there's just sometimes things lag in the v A.

594
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 1: The system is broken. We all know the system is broken. UM.

595
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 1: You know, they keep changing out the Secretary of the

596
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 1: v A because we need, you know, new eyes on

597
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 1: these issues. So sometimes mental health is at the floor front.

598
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 1: Sometimes prospects at the floor front. So you know, changes

599
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 1: are being made. It's just not a two year fix,

600
00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: a five year fixed, or even a ten year fix.

601
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: I mean this is some you know, especially at the

602
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 1: beginning of the current conflict. You know, we were working

603
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 1: off policies that were written pre World War Two and

604
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 1: so it was time for an update. So I think

605
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 1: changes being made, and whether it was the last administration

606
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 1: and this administration or even the next administration, I think

607
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 1: we're going to continue to see that change. If you

608
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 1: were if you got to play king of the castle

609
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 1: for a day at VA, what do you think is

610
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: the first big change that you would make. You know

611
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 1: that that's just a tough question because I know there's

612
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 1: it really is, because you know, and I think that's

613
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 1: why we need to change out the secretaries every few years,

614
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 1: because each person has their passions, the things that they

615
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 1: think are the number one thing they want to change. Um,

616
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: you know, mental health, substance abuse, homelessness. I mean, there's

617
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 1: so many different things. So how do you say that

618
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: you know one is more important than the other. And

619
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 1: so what I would have to see is I'd have

620
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: to look at all the programs, see where the money

621
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: is going, and if there's equal care for all the

622
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:12,919
Speaker 1: veterans versus just kind of focusing on one area. And

623
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 1: I think that it's kind of what I have to do,

624
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 1: because look, I do a lot with the v A.

625
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: You know, I've met with Secretary Wilkie a few times. UM.

626
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 1: I try to stay in the know. But you know,

627
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: unless you're behind that desk, you don't have all the

628
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 1: information in front of you to make those decisions. So

629
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,359
Speaker 1: I think I would just try to help as many

630
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 1: vesians as I could in a short amount of time.

631
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 1: Do you have any thoughts about UM? And forgive me

632
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 1: for not remembering the name of it, but there's that

633
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 1: program where there's a pot of money for veterans to

634
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 1: go and see private healthcare practitioners in the v A

635
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 1: pays for it. UM, do you remember I know what

636
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 1: you're talking We talked about it before. I think you're

637
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,800
Speaker 1: talking about the Choice program, yes, And I think Gallant

638
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 1: Few was just posting about that as well. And I

639
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 1: do think that seems to have been a change under

640
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:04,359
Speaker 1: the Trump administration. So it actually started under the Aboma mins,

641
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 1: but the way it was worded, in the way it

642
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 1: was laid out under the Abomer administration is that if

643
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 1: you live a certain distance from a b A facility,

644
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: then you could seek outside care or something closer to home.

645
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 1: And I think I think you had to live like

646
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 1: more than ninety minutes away from a major facility, but

647
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 1: if you had the A facilities in your area, you

648
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: had to use those the facilities. But that that's changed

649
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 1: under UM, the current legislation that President Trump signed for

650
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 1: the Choice program, which states that if you feel like

651
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: you're not getting the care you deserve it the v

652
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 1: A that you have the option to seek outside care.

653
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 1: If you feel like your care isn't being met, that

654
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 1: you do have the ability to seek privatized care. I

655
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 1: just wanted to mention that because I think there's a

656
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 1: lot of veterans out there who are unaware of it

657
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 1: and could probably make use of that program. No. Absolutely,

658
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: and I mean even for the veterans that are struggling.

659
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 1: You know, President Trump just signed the UM and I

660
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: haven't read the legislation on it yet, which is on

661
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 1: my to do with. But for the suicide aspect, so uh,

662
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,760
Speaker 1: you know, again, changes are being made. I think people

663
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 1: are aware that veterans are struggling as all people. I

664
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 1: think everybody has their own struggles. UM, but I think

665
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 1: they're trying to address as much of it as they can. Well,

666
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 1: we've had a lot of guests on the show who

667
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 1: are advocates for all types of alternative treatment. Um, you know,

668
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 1: we had Peter Gidrion recently who talked about Creatum, there's

669
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 1: been a ton of guys you talk about marijuana, you know,

670
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:43,439
Speaker 1: being used as a as to leave to leave any

671
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 1: post traumatic stress issues. Um, I've heard of, you know,

672
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:48,839
Speaker 1: the CBD oil thing. We even had a New York

673
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,760
Speaker 1: Times writer on about a year ago talked about talking

674
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: about m d M as to see being used like

675
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 1: but it wasn't just like recreationally. It was with you know,

676
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 1: someone who could have kind of guide. Yeah, are there

677
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 1: any you know what people might consider like crazier ideas

678
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 1: you have for you know, treating post traumatic stress or

679
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 1: treating not traumatic brain injury or any of that. You know,

680
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 1: there's so many therapies out there right now. Um. You know,

681
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 1: we we talked about you know, c CDP oil you

682
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 1: you know, Um there's right now through Botocush Retreat, which

683
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 1: was started by Navy uh you know EO D Tech

684
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 1: master Chief kin Folk out of Virginia as a couple

685
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:37,280
Speaker 1: of facilities now uh, doing wellness training. That's it's really

686
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 1: the core of its post traumatic growth versus push traumatic

687
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 1: stress as being a negative thing. They talk about how

688
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 1: you know your these are your experiences, this is how

689
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,240
Speaker 1: you've been trained, and this is how you can actually

690
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 1: move forward. So um, the one thing I say about

691
00:37:55,719 --> 00:38:00,320
Speaker 1: all these different treatments, whether it's clinical, non clinical, RUSS

692
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: of medicinal, like, I think most people are different. So

693
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 1: what might work for me isn't gonna work for you.

694
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 1: So or you might have to try, you know, several

695
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 1: of these different therapies or um remedies or whatever you

696
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 1: want to call it in order for it to work

697
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 1: for you. You know, you know we talked about like education.

698
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 1: You know, are you a hands on or you better

699
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 1: at reading hands on? Like what works for you? I

700
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,320
Speaker 1: think this is gonna be the same thing what works

701
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,280
Speaker 1: for you, So you have to try several different treatments

702
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 1: before you find what works for you. I know you're

703
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: a guy who stays physically fit. You know, you do

704
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 1: your runs and everything is are there any things in

705
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 1: particular you know that included that that have helped you?

706
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 1: And I I've always been you know, some into physical fitness.

707
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 1: You know, growing up playing sports military, and I found

708
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 1: when I wasn't able to work out, especially during my

709
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:01,399
Speaker 1: own uh you know several surgeries that I have where

710
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 1: I wasn't able to work out that I mentally affected me.

711
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: I feel border when I work out. I feel better

712
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: when I'm coming out of the gym, I rest better,

713
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 1: I'm more focused. So I think physical fitness is something

714
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 1: that's gonna make everybody feel better, and it's not always

715
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 1: gonna be easy. You've got to figure out times to

716
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: to fit it in and make it part of your routine.

717
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 1: For somebody like myself who travels pretty much every day

718
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,320
Speaker 1: of his life, you know, sometimes I missed some workouts,

719
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 1: but if I missed too many workouts, I mentally don't

720
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 1: feel the same. So it's it's been an important part

721
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 1: of my life. And another person we haven't had on

722
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 1: for a while is Carl Manger. I was wondering if

723
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 1: there's any updates with with Gallant Few and what you

724
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 1: guys are doing over there. You know, I would like

725
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: to say that I'm a lot more hands on account

726
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 1: Few than I am. Unfortunately with my day job it

727
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 1: requires a lot of my time. But I'm actually in

728
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,399
Speaker 1: Dallas right now. I got to have dinner with Carl

729
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:01,399
Speaker 1: Munger last night, UM and some of the people from

730
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 1: the Radar Project and some of the local supporters and veterans.

731
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 1: So it was just great to be able to see

732
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 1: him again break bread. But you know, they're doing some

733
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 1: different retreats where they take veterans hiking, um and mountain climbing. Uh.

734
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:21,240
Speaker 1: You know, they're figuring out different ways to get people active.

735
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 1: And I really think it's more UM, from my perspective,

736
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 1: the connection aspect. You know that you're not in your house,

737
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:31,760
Speaker 1: you're being active again. You're around people, you know, UM,

738
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 1: people who somewhat understand whether they're a veteran or they're

739
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 1: just a veteran supporter. I think that's the true part

740
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 1: of It's like you're not just isolating yourself. Oh yeah,

741
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 1: I think that was always Carl's idea, wasn't it that

742
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 1: it was going to be like connecting older vets who

743
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 1: are out with the guys who are just kind of

744
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 1: e t s NG out of the military or retiring. Absolutely,

745
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 1: And I know that they have an indoor rock climbing

746
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 1: facility they go to here in Dallas, and they'll have

747
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,919
Speaker 1: older veterans, young veterans, and they all just go out

748
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:08,240
Speaker 1: and they they spend an evening climbing together and they

749
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: do it like I think every two weeks or a

750
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 1: couple of times a month, and so I know they'll

751
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: be out there tonight, you know, knocking it out. I

752
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 1: know you're able to do, you know, running with your injuries,

753
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,720
Speaker 1: and I mean I've seen you do some remarkable stuff

754
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 1: to people would think you wouldn't be able to do.

755
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 1: What would that be in the realm of possibilities, would

756
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,399
Speaker 1: be like a prosthetic that you'd be able to rock

757
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 1: climb or is that just I'm assuming to be pretty crazy. Well,

758
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 1: I think if there's a wheel, there's a way. It's

759
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 1: just it doesn't really interest me right now, gotch. I'm

760
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 1: a pretty standard guy, lightweight and cardio and and just

761
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 1: you know, with my work schedule last year at eight

762
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 1: eight days on the at home last year and everything

763
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:53,839
Speaker 1: else is on the road somewhere in the world. Um, yeah,

764
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 1: I just kind of keep to the simple things right now.

765
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 1: But who knows, if if I get to a point

766
00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: where I have some downtime and I want to pick

767
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 1: up a new abby, maybe I'll give it a shot. Yeah,

768
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,320
Speaker 1: it would be cool to see and and inspire people.

769
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 1: I mean people are inspired when they see you doing

770
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 1: push shops and all different types of stuff that I

771
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:12,240
Speaker 1: always see you post UM. And then the third charity

772
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 1: that I mentioned in the intro that I'm not completely

773
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 1: familiar with, UM what what is the Derby Project doing

774
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 1: That kind of separates itself from the other charities that

775
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 1: you've mentioned. So Derby Project actually falls under the Gun umbrella,

776
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 1: under the Gallant que umbrella, you have the Radar Project,

777
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 1: the Derby Project, UM forgive me, there's LAMB, which is

778
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 1: now the women's one, but I forget what it stands for.

779
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,919
Speaker 1: You have Wings Level, which is Air Force. So each

780
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 1: one kinda is starting to break down, you know, Like

781
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 1: I'd like to say, all veterans understand each other, but

782
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 1: Marines talk one way, Army talks one way, air Force

783
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 1: talks one way. While we might all bust each other's balls,

784
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 1: we still have little things that are that kind of

785
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 1: divide this on some aspects. So the individual programs are

786
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,720
Speaker 1: set up for those branches now that you can't attend

787
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 1: to other events or across UM do events within the

788
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: different organizations. But it's really to focus your branch specific

789
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 1: to make sure your needs are being met. Got you?

790
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 1: That makes sense? Um, And as as always, you could

791
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:25,800
Speaker 1: visit Mike on Twitter at Ranger Slick at Ranger Schlitz

792
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 1: on Instagram at Michael Schlitz. Um. Unless Jack has any

793
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 1: other questions, I was actually just wondering what else you're

794
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 1: up to and if you're gonna do any more of those?

795
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 1: Are run Ranger runs, any big events the people would

796
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 1: be interested in. Oh, you know, they just wrapped up

797
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 1: this year's Run Ranger running February. It's every February, so

798
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 1: you know again next year. Unfortunately, UM, I wasn't able

799
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 1: to do it this year, but I'll be back at

800
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,919
Speaker 1: it next year. But you know, I had a good

801
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 1: friend of mine, uh who actually kept Team Schlitz going

802
00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: for me, so we still had a team. I just

803
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 1: wasn't on it this year. Uh No. But you know,

804
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 1: as far as my stuff, you know, working for the

805
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 1: Garyson Foundation as their Military and Veteran resource manager, it's

806
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 1: really my job to go out and and vet facilities

807
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 1: and programs and organizations that are giving back to those

808
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 1: art communities. And so yeah, that's really what I'm focusing

809
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 1: on right now, is just making sure that whatever's new

810
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: or what we haven't heard of is getting put up

811
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:30,240
Speaker 1: to the public. That's awesome. Well, I'm glad you and

812
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 1: Gary and everyone else at that foundation, as well as

813
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 1: Carl Monger are out there doing those things. It's just

814
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 1: amazing that like people who are willing to donate their

815
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 1: time and energy to help out people who really need it. Absolutely,

816
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 1: and there's a lot of great organizations, organizations that we

817
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 1: haven't even spoke on. You know, what I always say is,

818
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 1: you know, if you're interested in supporting an organization, just

819
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 1: do your due diligence, do some vetting. You talked to

820
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 1: some of the veterans they've helped, you know, do some

821
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 1: investigation on their finances, make sure that these golden we're

822
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 1: it's supposed to UM. You know, there there's a lot

823
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 1: of great charities, but there's a lot of bad charities.

824
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 1: So I just remind people, you know, don't get taken

825
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 1: if you want to support an organization, you know, look

826
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 1: into them before you do it. Yeah, I mean, it's

827
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 1: one of the things that I've seen with UM. Unfortunately,

828
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 1: there's a whole bunch of organizations out there who I

829
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 1: claimed to be fighting human trafficking, but if you actually

830
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 1: look into it and it's like, well, you claim you're

831
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 1: rescuing children literally, but where are these rescued children? Like that?

832
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 1: What what you know? I mean, I'm just saying that

833
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 1: when you look at a charity organization, like I want

834
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 1: to see Michael's house, like you know, I want to

835
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 1: see they're actually doing something. Yeah, I don't, you know.

836
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 1: I mean, awareness is great if we know that there's

837
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 1: an issue, but if you're not part of the solution,

838
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 1: then you're just bringing an awareness to a problem. You're

839
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: not really fixing anything. And I think there's a lot

840
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 1: of organizations right there are kind of writing that bandwagon

841
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:03,760
Speaker 1: of a awareness, but they're not actually being productive. Yeah.

842
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 1: It's like when I talked to uh Rick Ayannucci and

843
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 1: he was like, man, like, we are so far past

844
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 1: awareness now, like people know we have issues with PTSD

845
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 1: with veterans, like now it's the time to actually do things. Absolutely,

846
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 1: I would agree with that, And what Mike's saying about

847
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 1: doing your due diligence really is true because there's you know,

848
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:26,879
Speaker 1: we've we've heard about these go fund me sometimes that

849
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 1: end up being exposed where the money is going to

850
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 1: you know, just the pockets whoever started it. There's also um,

851
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 1: I mean this is something I've found out about in uh,

852
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 1: you know, more recent years, I guess. But sometimes you

853
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 1: see those like clothing bins and it'll it'll say like

854
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 1: support the Troops LLC. And you know, anyone could create

855
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,839
Speaker 1: some company and it turns out like the money, you know,

856
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 1: the the closer sold overseas type of things. I've heard

857
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 1: of all different types of stuff like that, and you know,

858
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 1: the owners of those companies just make some profit. You

859
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 1: can name the company whatever you want. I mean, so, yeah,

860
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 1: Mike is right. We have to do your dude due diligence.

861
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:05,399
Speaker 1: And so those are two charities that we know are

862
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,840
Speaker 1: doing the right thing is the Gary Sonese Foundation and

863
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 1: Gallant few. And I think the cool thing about Gallant

864
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 1: Few two is that Karl Monger has said it on

865
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 1: the podcast before, like he gives out his personal number

866
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 1: where he said, like, you know, if if you're on

867
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 1: the brink of doing something stupid, call me. Yeah, he's

868
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 1: very hands on. I get the impression anyway, So and

869
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 1: I think that's that's great. And you know, depending on

870
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 1: you know, your exposure, how many of those calls you

871
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 1: can take. You know, sometimes you know one person can

872
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 1: do it all. If he saves one person, that that

873
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 1: that's a win in my book. You know, you say five,

874
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 1: that's even better. Uh. But you know, if you're missing

875
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:46,839
Speaker 1: calls because you gave out your number, then how does

876
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 1: that make that veteran feel if he doesn't get through?

877
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:52,439
Speaker 1: So you know, if you see you have a missed call,

878
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, we're I hate to say, but

879
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 1: we're living in an age where everybody checks our caller

880
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 1: I d because of all the spam calls there. And

881
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 1: so if you don't recognize nice the number popping up

882
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 1: on your phone something, do you answer it or do

883
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 1: you wait for a voicemail? And so if that veteran

884
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:11,800
Speaker 1: is going to a voicemail, how does that make him feel? So,

885
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 1: you know, it's one of those things where you know,

886
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 1: if you give out your number, you have to answer

887
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 1: all these unknown numbers because it might not be spam.

888
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 1: It might be that veteran feed support and I have

889
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 1: to do it myself. I mean, I get tired of

890
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 1: answering those those bam calls, but I just never know

891
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 1: who's calling. So if it is, you know, a spam call.

892
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 1: Once I hang up, I just blocked the number and

893
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:37,320
Speaker 1: I keep driving forward. Yeah, and and luckily there are

894
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 1: because of the amount of awareness, there are those hotlines

895
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 1: out there that operate seven where you know you can

896
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,319
Speaker 1: call and have someone to talk to you if you're

897
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 1: if you're going to do something dumb. And I mean

898
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 1: it's something we've talked about on the podcast many times before,

899
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,760
Speaker 1: where you know, Chris Paranto was on recently, is talked

900
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 1: about him struggling with these same issues and just someone

901
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 1: saying the right thing to him changed his day and

902
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 1: changed his mentality. And you know, one of the you know,

903
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 1: garryuson each foundation is growing rapidly right now. Back in October,

904
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 1: we hired a new CEO, General Robin Rand, who is

905
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:15,799
Speaker 1: a forty plus Air Force veteran, and you know, we're

906
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,839
Speaker 1: looking at growing, we're looking at expanding programs. I mean,

907
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 1: we want to take it to the next level. But

908
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 1: you know, I got a call yesterday and you know,

909
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 1: General Ran a couple of days ago had a veteran

910
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 1: comment like one o'clock in the morning calling a four

911
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: star at one o'clock in the morning because he needed help.

912
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:35,959
Speaker 1: And General Ran took the call and you know, he goes.

913
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 1: You know, I I need to get you to the

914
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 1: person who can help you. Like you know, in the morning,

915
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 1: I'll get ahold of Mike Schwitz and I actually we'll

916
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 1: call you and and I did, and you know, we're

917
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 1: getting the veteran into a program that needs to be into.

918
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:51,839
Speaker 1: But that's that's true leadership, that it doesn't matter if

919
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 1: it's one o'clock in the afternoon or one o'clock in

920
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 1: the morning, that at whatever level you're at, whether you're

921
00:49:57,160 --> 00:50:00,840
Speaker 1: a CEO, you're an executive director, you're one of the

922
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:03,399
Speaker 1: worker bees, like we all have the ability to make

923
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 1: that change. Right on. Man, Well, you're doing great work

924
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 1: and it's great to hear an update from you, and

925
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 1: I think the audience will appreciate it as well. Again,

926
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys having me on and I hope

927
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 1: next time I'm up in New York I get a

928
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:20,399
Speaker 1: run run with you guys for a night. Yeah. Absolutely, Mike,

929
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 1: you know it's again it's been way too long, um,

930
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 1: but thanks for taking a little bit of time out

931
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:26,840
Speaker 1: of your day to come and talk about this stuff

932
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,399
Speaker 1: with us. And um, yeah, when you're in our neck

933
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 1: of the woods, please give us a call. And the

934
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 1: last thing I just want to do, because you know,

935
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 1: we are veterans, we like we like to give each

936
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 1: other a hard time. So next time you see Josh

937
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 1: Lee's punch him in the balls. I went out and

938
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:44,760
Speaker 1: had a couple of drinks with him and Hopeboken about

939
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 1: maybe three weeks ago. Oh nice. Yeah, so next time

940
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 1: you have those drinks that thanks, you give me a

941
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 1: good I will the nut check. All right, guys, I

942
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:59,839
Speaker 1: appreciate it great having Mike on. Like I said, it's

943
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:01,799
Speaker 1: been a while. I mean it's fourth time on the show,

944
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,919
Speaker 1: but it's been several years and he's doing great work.

945
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 1: So once again it's a ranger. Schlitz on Twitter at

946
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:13,320
Speaker 1: Mike at Michael Schlitz on Instagram. Uh, give him a follow,

947
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 1: and give the organizations to follow us well, the Gary

948
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 1: SONEEE Foundation and Gallant Few, um. The other thing I

949
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 1: wanted to mention, actually, unless unless there's anything else you

950
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 1: want to mention about Christina Wong piece. I mean I

951
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 1: could sit there and like go through it and ran

952
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 1: for probably, like you know, for another hour, but I

953
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 1: think I will restrain myself. All right, Well that go

954
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 1: read the article for yourself. Go go and read the

955
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 1: actual reporting and uh you make up your own mind

956
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 1: about it. Yeah, I'll wink right to it. It's actually

957
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 1: cool to see bright part writing about that type of

958
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 1: thing because it's not something they normally cover, like going

959
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 1: and uh finding sources and reporting on it. Because I'll

960
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 1: tell you what, The Army Times does not have the

961
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:58,359
Speaker 1: balls to report stories like that. Yeah. For the longest time,

962
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 1: I feel like it was us and and now, um,

963
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 1: Christina wrote this article, which is awesome. Um, the Army

964
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:07,839
Speaker 1: Times just does not have the balls to write those

965
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,880
Speaker 1: kinds of stories. And I could speculate why, but what

966
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 1: I don't know, wasn't it um what's his name again?

967
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 1: The Nate Boyer who said no one really reads the

968
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:19,720
Speaker 1: Army Times and he's the one who wrote the piece

969
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 1: about the standing for the anthem thing, Yeah, because he

970
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 1: said he he wrote it for the Army Times. He's like,

971
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 1: let's be honest, no one really reads the Right now,

972
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 1: not really. So I mean, I'm sure Breitbart is getting

973
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 1: a lot more eyes on it for better or worse.

974
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 1: A lot of people read Right for it, So I

975
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 1: mean I was told yesterday that like behind the scenes,

976
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 1: like the special Forces community is like freaking the funk

977
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:44,919
Speaker 1: out right now. Yeah, well that's a good thing probably. Yeah.

978
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 1: I mean, if you think the stuff described in that

979
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 1: article is okay, then you need to be freaked out, honestly. Um.

980
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:53,799
Speaker 1: All right, and then the last thing I wanted to

981
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 1: mention was that you just did an hour long interview

982
00:52:57,160 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 1: with Patrick Bett david On for his dot channel Value Attainment,

983
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,400
Speaker 1: which is on YouTube. It's getting like a huge response

984
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 1: thus far. Yeah, it's like the first press I did

985
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 1: for the book. Yeah, tens of thousands of views on YouTube.

986
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 1: I'll link to it and a ton of I know

987
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 1: you don't read the comments, apparently a ton of comments.

988
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:17,839
Speaker 1: So I mean it's getting a lot of eyes on

989
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 1: your book. It's coming out in a month, yeah, on April. No.

990
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 1: I I was grateful for the interview. You see that

991
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,879
Speaker 1: it's you know, Pat runs that channel his his it's

992
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:33,319
Speaker 1: like his own, you know, personal YouTube channel kind of

993
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:36,239
Speaker 1: what what he's interested in. His background is actually in

994
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:39,799
Speaker 1: business and he owns a big insurance company, but this

995
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 1: YouTube channel, Value Attainment is kind of I got the

996
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 1: impression it's like his baby. Um, but he puts a

997
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 1: lot of time and effort into it and it's like

998
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:51,879
Speaker 1: very high production value. So I mean I was happy

999
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:53,360
Speaker 1: to go and do it for that reason. You know,

1000
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:55,359
Speaker 1: when somebody contacts you out of the blue, you don't

1001
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:56,879
Speaker 1: know who they are, You're going like to see their

1002
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 1: previous work. And i'd see interviews he did with like

1003
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:02,839
Speaker 1: Jock go In, Chris Parronto like like, again, very high

1004
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 1: production values. I was like, Okay, he's taken this seriously

1005
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:09,319
Speaker 1: so um and a high number of views. Yeah, so

1006
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 1: when and and and it's not so often that you get,

1007
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 1: you know, a full hour to talk about this kind

1008
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 1: of stuff. So went and did the did that interview

1009
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 1: and it came out really well, Yeah, you guys spoke

1010
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:24,359
Speaker 1: about the book, you spoke about fake news. Yeah, Pat,

1011
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:28,319
Speaker 1: Pat really wanted to lecture me about journalism. Okay. So

1012
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 1: some people were kind of commenting on that on the

1013
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 1: video about how how they they were kind of had

1014
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:35,879
Speaker 1: your back a lot of them. I mean, I had

1015
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:38,279
Speaker 1: like friends emailing me They're like, wow, Jack, you were

1016
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:42,799
Speaker 1: really patient listening to all that. Pat. I think I

1017
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 1: only met him that one time, but I think he's

1018
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 1: a good guy and he's expressing a lot of the

1019
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 1: frustration that everyone in the country feels about journalism and

1020
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:54,240
Speaker 1: about the media right now. Um, but I would argue

1021
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 1: that he doesn't really understand how it works. Yeah, and

1022
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 1: I think, um, you know, some of the stuff he

1023
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 1: was saying, he was very honest about it though, he said,

1024
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 1: this is not really my world, this is not where

1025
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 1: I come from. This is what I want to see

1026
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 1: as a consumer kind of yeah, and I respect that.

1027
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 1: I think that the problem right now is that people

1028
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 1: say they just want facts and they just want the truth.

1029
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 1: The data is pretty clear that that's not what people want. Now.

1030
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 1: I can't speak for for pat of course, but the

1031
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 1: public written large, and there's data in their statistics because

1032
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:36,839
Speaker 1: online we can track all of this stuff people. And

1033
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 1: that's why I brought up that book Contagious too when

1034
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 1: in the interview with him, because that book draws on

1035
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 1: that data and it shows that people click on the

1036
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 1: stuff that outrages them. That's what motivate. And now, if

1037
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 1: that's what trends. If you want truth and you want facts,

1038
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:56,479
Speaker 1: you can go and read a p and Reuter's wire

1039
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:59,320
Speaker 1: reports and you can go and read just like dry

1040
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 1: objective journalism. But people don't. So the market is deciding

1041
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:09,839
Speaker 1: right now, and the market is saying they want the clickbait,

1042
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 1: fake news, tabloid esque journalism. So my what when people

1043
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 1: criticize journalism, I throw it back in their lap and say, Okay,

1044
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 1: but you're the consumer. You need to vote with your

1045
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 1: feet or rage, vote on what you click on. That's

1046
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 1: what That's what I mean by that is, you know, choose,

1047
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:30,839
Speaker 1: you know, choose carefully. Like I saw um over the

1048
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 1: weekend the like hashtag like fire Tucker Carlson because he

1049
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 1: made something on Bubba the Love Sponge. He made some black,

1050
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 1: very derogatory comments that I saw a clip about it.

1051
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:44,839
Speaker 1: He was saying stupid stuff, but from me. But keep

1052
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 1: in mind the outlet too. He was on Bubba the

1053
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 1: Love Sponge. It's a little bit more outrageous of a show.

1054
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:51,279
Speaker 1: It's not his news show, you know what I mean.

1055
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 1: He's gonna be a little bit more outrageous somewhere for

1056
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:56,440
Speaker 1: that audience. But I mean for me and the the

1057
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Speaker 1: whole like fire Tucker Carlson thing is like pass because

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00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:06,319
Speaker 1: in my mind I personally already fired Fox News, CNN, MSNBC.

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00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 1: I don't watch any of them because they don't deserve

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00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 1: to be watched. I also saw there was a lot

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00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 1: of outrage over Janine Pierrot her comments over Elano Mare

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00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 1: uh saying that her wearing the head job is like

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00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 1: basically that she wants to bring Sharial law to the

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00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 1: to the United States, Like why would you what she said?

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00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 1: Why would you watch that stuff? Like why would you

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00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 1: consume that type of media? It's funny. I don't, but

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00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 1: I also go on Twitter and I see what people are. Yeah,

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00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 1: that's why. That's the only reason why I saw that.

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00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 1: That's the reason I saw that. Um, I'll see exactly

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00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 1: what she said. Yeah, elanom Are wearing a head job

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00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 1: is her adherance to Islamic doctrine. Then the kind of

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00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 1: the crazy thing about that, though, is if you look

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00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 1: at a country with seriolaw like Benny was in for

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00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:54,440
Speaker 1: her documentary, uh, like, not a lot of women just

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00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 1: wearing the job, you know, that's not really appropriate in

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00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 1: countries with Shrio law for the most part, mean, most

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00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 1: of them do have the face covered. Now, which countries

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00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 1: have Sharia law and which don't is is subjective? Um,

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Speaker 1: I mean the one that really has Sharia law Saudi Arabia,

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00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:12,960
Speaker 1: of course, but then the other countries have some version

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00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 1: of it, you know, Iran, you know, Afghanistan. The one

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00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 1: thing I'll say about Alana mar By the way, is that, uh,

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00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 1: you know, the whole controversy is she an anti semit?

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00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 1: Is she not an anti semit and and all this

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00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 1: other stuff. Uh as I've watched just her as a

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00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 1: congresswoman question people and stuff. Just clearly, I have to

1087
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 1: be honest, not a likable person. Just comes off extremely

1088
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 1: arrogant the way that she questions people, and like, it's

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00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 1: just not it's definitely not setting a good example of um,

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00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 1: especially with people who do have biased about a Muslim

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00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 1: woman who has a job being in Congress. Not the

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00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 1: most likable person I've ever seen. I don't know, I

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00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 1: really haven't watched like really any interviews with her. Just

1094
00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 1: watch her question people as a congresswoman, and you know,

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00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:03,439
Speaker 1: the way she'll there's this this one line of questioning though,

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00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:06,080
Speaker 1: where it's just yes or no, yes or no, and

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00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 1: this this guy is trying to explain his position on stuff,

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00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 1: and she's asking these hypothetical questions and at a certain

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00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 1: point he's like, you know, I don't think you're asking

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00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 1: me real questions, So I'm not going to answer any

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00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 1: of that and I understand it because you have to

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00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 1: watch the whole thing in context. But yeah, I'm not

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00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:22,440
Speaker 1: I'm not a huge fan of her. But anyway, back

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00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 1: to what you're saying, though, it is true that, yeah,

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00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 1: this is what we click on, is what we're outring.

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00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 1: I mean, we're still talking about the guy from Power

1107
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 1: of faking hate crime? Like who cares this? Dude? If

1108
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 1: you want to just hear the you just want news.

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00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 1: I mean, you can go watch c SPAN, you can

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00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 1: watch you can watch. Uh you know, I watched General

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00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 1: votel Um being asked questions by a Senate subcommittee over

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00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 1: the weekend. Just go and watch the actual fucking video.

1113
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 1: You don't need the news to report it in this

1114
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 1: day and age, you go directly to the source. Listen

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00:59:56,720 --> 01:00:00,160
Speaker 1: to this guy being interviewed, and he'll tell you from

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01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 1: his point of view. Votel Us, the sent Com commander

1117
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:05,040
Speaker 1: telling you what's going on in the Middle East from

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01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:09,240
Speaker 1: from his from where he sits. But people don't consume

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01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:12,920
Speaker 1: that type of media. So when people complain about like

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Speaker 1: fake news and journalism, how journalists profit from dividing America? Like,

1121
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 1: if you want to know who's responsible for that, we

1122
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 1: need to go look in the mirror, and I do

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01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 1: a little bit of internal soul searching and say, like,

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Speaker 1: who am I? When I go in? I consume this

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01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 1: like angry, hate filled type of media? Am I helping?

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01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:38,720
Speaker 1: Am I staying informed? Or am I like gawking at

1127
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 1: a car crash? What does this say about me as

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01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:45,840
Speaker 1: a person? Uh? Am I? Am I staying involved and

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01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:51,960
Speaker 1: informed in society in a um productive way? Um. I've

1130
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 1: mentioned on the podcast before, like people who want to

1131
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 1: talk about journalism complain about journalism. I asked them, do

1132
01:00:57,360 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 1: you read pro Publica? That's a web site, investigative news website.

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01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 1: I believe it's a foundation. I don't think it's for

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01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 1: profit even they do really hard hitting, long form deep dives,

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01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 1: long investigative pieces. So my question to people who complain

1136
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:18,480
Speaker 1: about fake news, do you read that website? If not,

1137
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 1: what the fund is wrong with you? Well? I mean,

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01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 1: why are you going? Why are you watching Fox News

1139
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:27,040
Speaker 1: and what seeing? Why are you still complaining about CNN?

1140
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 1: Just turn the fucking TV off and go go read

1141
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:34,160
Speaker 1: good journalism? Like so I don't. I mean, the problem

1142
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 1: is the people who consume that this stuff. I mean,

1143
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 1: and especially as uh you know conservatives or Republicans or libertarians,

1144
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:44,040
Speaker 1: and we always say, let the market decide the free

1145
01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:50,080
Speaker 1: market of ideas. Okay, be be that guy that goes

1146
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:53,120
Speaker 1: and makes the right decision. You know, don't keep if

1147
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:56,479
Speaker 1: there's a car brand that the brakes keep going out

1148
01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:59,680
Speaker 1: and you drive, people are driving off a fucking cliff

1149
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:03,440
Speaker 1: and the car explodes and the entire family dies, stop

1150
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:06,560
Speaker 1: buying that car brand, Stop buying that type of car,

1151
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:09,240
Speaker 1: Go buy a different type of car. Yeah, we're we're

1152
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:11,160
Speaker 1: also living in a in a weird time because I

1153
01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:14,280
Speaker 1: think there's no denying that the media at large created

1154
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:17,200
Speaker 1: Donald Trump and and he has become the president and

1155
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:21,360
Speaker 1: amplified it. Yet as an outcome of that, you know,

1156
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 1: if if there was no huge mainstream media, Donald Trump

1157
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 1: probably would not be the president. But again that's because

1158
01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:32,600
Speaker 1: of people's infatuation with with Donald Trump, or with celebrity

1159
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:37,440
Speaker 1: or with Casio Cortez is another one, like she is

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01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:42,920
Speaker 1: a junior congresswoman from one district in America, and people

1161
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:46,080
Speaker 1: are flipping the funk out about this girl, like losing

1162
01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 1: her mind, Like we're turning into the Soviet Union. I'm like,

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01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:53,040
Speaker 1: you know, this former bartender gets elected to Congress and

1164
01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:56,560
Speaker 1: people losing their goddamn minds. It's like, you guys need

1165
01:02:56,600 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 1: to chill out. Yeah, and you know, I'm I mentioned

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Speaker 1: as well the Alan Omar stuff. I mean, I don't

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01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:05,120
Speaker 1: know if you saw there was there was some state

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01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:08,640
Speaker 1: where they were running a billboard with the towers on

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01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:11,800
Speaker 1: nine eleven that and then a picture of ellan Omar

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01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:14,640
Speaker 1: that says like, obviously we have forgotten. You know, you

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01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:17,600
Speaker 1: said you'd never forget. And I am, by no means

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01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:19,200
Speaker 1: a fan of this woman, but to connect her with

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01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:23,040
Speaker 1: nine eleven is, yeah, your responsible. I have seen some

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01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 1: of her comments, and I mean she has made some

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01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 1: pretty disgusting comments in the past. Absolutely agreed, Yes, and

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01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:30,919
Speaker 1: it's okay. It's okay to hold her accountable for that. Yeah,

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01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:34,080
Speaker 1: you know you're responsible for your words. Yeah, But the

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01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:37,000
Speaker 1: the reaction has been so over the over the top.

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01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:39,840
Speaker 1: And and that's why I mean, of the Congress people

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Speaker 1: that we know, those are two of the names. And

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01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:43,640
Speaker 1: I actually think Dan Crunch shows the name we know

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01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:45,640
Speaker 1: too because of his story. What do you know about

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01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:48,960
Speaker 1: this uh, this cat who's running for president? He says

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01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 1: he's gonna run in Andrew Yang Absolutely nothing. I watched

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Speaker 1: like a brief interview with him on Fox Business. Um,

1186
01:03:56,560 --> 01:04:00,800
Speaker 1: he's interesting, he's interesting. I'd like to learn more about him. Um.

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01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:05,400
Speaker 1: I think him in uh Tulsi uh gab gab. Yeah,

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01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 1: I think the two, those two are the most interesting

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01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:10,840
Speaker 1: candidates for me right now. Yeah. Yeah, No, i'n't have

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01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:12,600
Speaker 1: to get any of them on. I actually was saying

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01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:17,040
Speaker 1: I'd love to get um who was it again? Um? Who?

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01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:20,240
Speaker 1: Who flipped out on those kids? But but I loved

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Speaker 1: their reaction everything not Barbara Boxer, Diane Fine Stunt. Yeah,

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01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:26,880
Speaker 1: after that, and you know what she was. She was

1195
01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:30,280
Speaker 1: that funny, justified and to be honest, it was also

1196
01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:34,120
Speaker 1: cleverly edited. But uh, you know, I actually liked a reaction,

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Speaker 1: and it does show a changing landscape. I think in

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Speaker 1: America that there just aren't Um. I don't think there's

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Speaker 1: moderates on either side anymore. I don't think you're gonna

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Speaker 1: get elected as a moderate. Um. I mean, I I

1201
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:47,040
Speaker 1: don't know if you saw the reaction to that. Um,

1202
01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:51,880
Speaker 1: Joe Biden called Mike Pennce a decent men and people

1203
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:55,680
Speaker 1: flipped out. You know, Uh, since uh Cynthia Nixon who

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01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:59,000
Speaker 1: ran for uh Senate no ran for governor here in

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01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:02,080
Speaker 1: New York like flipped out over him, calling him a

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01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:04,440
Speaker 1: decent man. She's like, you know, this guy stands against

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01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:08,040
Speaker 1: lb G t Q rights blah blah, and and you

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01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:10,240
Speaker 1: know you're allowed to call someone that you disagree with

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01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:13,480
Speaker 1: the decent man. But uh, it was Ben Shapiro who said,

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Speaker 1: you know that he thinks someone like Joe Biden is

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01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:17,360
Speaker 1: going to find out that you're not gonna win being

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Speaker 1: the moderate in this race. You're gonna have to stand out.

1213
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:21,720
Speaker 1: And the only way to stand out in this field

1214
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 1: is like to out left the other people. And that's

1215
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Speaker 1: a pretty scary. Yeah. I hope that's not true, but

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Speaker 1: I'm afraid that it is. Well, you know, you have

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Speaker 1: several candidates talking about things that you know, you thought

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01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:37,160
Speaker 1: were like crazy ideas a few years ago. I mean,

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Speaker 1: including reparations for all black Americans, which they were talking

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01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:42,880
Speaker 1: about that back in the nineties. Yeah, but there's there's

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Speaker 1: I believe, three Democrats running for president who are fully

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Speaker 1: on board with it. That's never gonna happen, I don't know,

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01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:52,720
Speaker 1: but it to most Americans, it would be considered an

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01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:56,240
Speaker 1: extreme idea. And you have you know, Kamala Harris as

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Speaker 1: well as I know. Bernie Centers said he's not for it,

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01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:01,240
Speaker 1: but Kamala Harris and two others I believe we've said,

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Speaker 1: you know, they're just for these more extreme ideas. And

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01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:05,680
Speaker 1: by the way, the same thing has happened with Republicans.

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01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:09,360
Speaker 1: I remember when Republicans reign, I think it was eight

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01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:12,080
Speaker 1: years ago, and they were talking about um SO two

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01:06:12,080 --> 01:06:16,880
Speaker 1: election cycles ago, talking about a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage.

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Speaker 1: You know, these are ridiculous ideas, and but but people

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Speaker 1: I love ridiculous. I remember when New Gingrich ran he

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01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:25,760
Speaker 1: said that, you know, when he's president, gas is gonna

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01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:27,760
Speaker 1: be under two hours ago, and and you know, how

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01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:30,200
Speaker 1: do you change that? Being president with it, You're gonna

1237
01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:34,600
Speaker 1: build a beautiful wall in Mexico. Is gonna pay for it. Yeah,

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01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:37,640
Speaker 1: I mean all of this ties into quickbait. All of

1239
01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:40,480
Speaker 1: it ties into fake news and what people like to

1240
01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:44,520
Speaker 1: Absolutely it's the the takes and then the counter takes,

1241
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:49,160
Speaker 1: and then you get the splainers and all this bullshit. Yeah,

1242
01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:54,240
Speaker 1: it's all a big ecosystem. And I would say, you know, follow,

1243
01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:59,000
Speaker 1: you know, being engaged, follow politics, you know, read read

1244
01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:04,040
Speaker 1: good journalism, reject the clickbait journalism. You know, and like

1245
01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:05,800
Speaker 1: I was saying before, you can go and like just

1246
01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:09,960
Speaker 1: directly watch those hearings that happened in an open forum.

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01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:12,360
Speaker 1: I mean some some are closed door sessions because there's

1248
01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:15,840
Speaker 1: classified information being discussed, but a lot of them are public,

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01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:19,439
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah. Then and sometimes when there's just great

1250
01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:22,240
Speaker 1: clips on c spend, you know, people do post them

1251
01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:24,200
Speaker 1: and there's great stuff that you can watch out there

1252
01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:29,160
Speaker 1: of you know, even um Ostasio Cortez said some interesting

1253
01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:32,040
Speaker 1: things on you know, the way government works. It's been posted.

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01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:35,840
Speaker 1: You know. There's also that thing now, I think where

1255
01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:39,240
Speaker 1: if people don't like the source of the information, everything

1256
01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:41,480
Speaker 1: they say is bad and that's not a good thing.

1257
01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:43,800
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just to put people in the camp

1258
01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:46,320
Speaker 1: of like good and evil on everything. Well, it's another

1259
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:51,680
Speaker 1: thing where people will say CNN really or like if

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01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:55,880
Speaker 1: I post like this story bright Bart really, and it's

1261
01:07:55,920 --> 01:08:00,600
Speaker 1: like okay, guy or a girl, UM tell me which

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01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:04,760
Speaker 1: news outlet you think is completely you know, truthful and

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Speaker 1: worthy of being posted and we find, you know, morally acceptable. Ye.

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Speaker 1: I never get a straight answer on that question. And

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Speaker 1: my problem with um, let's say CNN, for example, doesn't

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Speaker 1: tend to be the articles that are posted online. It's

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Speaker 1: the personalities on TV talking you know, the Don Lemons

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Speaker 1: the Fox News website has some good stuff sometimes, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because most of these um people writing the article articles

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Speaker 1: or just you know, regularly down the line journalist regularly

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Speaker 1: like beat what you know, beat journalists. Yeah, yeah, But

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Speaker 1: the people that they hire to be on air anchors,

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Speaker 1: you know, they're horrible, Yeah, horrible, and they like to

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Speaker 1: use hyperbole and all that stuff and like and they're

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Speaker 1: not experts. They're not experts on anything. Like the person

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Speaker 1: that you had, like they could tap into we're having

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Speaker 1: this conversation not long ago, you know, all this stuff

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Speaker 1: with Russia and collusion and stuff like that. Like if

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Speaker 1: these news agencies and they're here in Manhattan, if they

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Speaker 1: TV and ask them questions about Russia. But they won't

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Speaker 1: do that because they're not going to get the crazy

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Speaker 1: when you watch TV, you ever happen to notice this

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Speaker 1: crazy coincidence that whenever they have like a lawyer on,

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Speaker 1: it's like the hottest lawyer you've ever seen in your life.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure that just so happens to be who they chose,

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Speaker 1: we have an expert on childcare, we have an expert

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Speaker 1: incredibly attractive because that's what people like to watch. Doesn't

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Speaker 1: say anything about their intelligence, but well and maybe it does.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it does. I feel like, you know those TV

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Speaker 1: news shows, like that's what plays at the waiting room

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Speaker 1: who go to v A. Like that's when there's all

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Speaker 1: time I go to my parents, asked my dad, it's

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Speaker 1: it's constantly on MSNBC and CNN. He's become just uh

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Speaker 1: But even if you don't like Trump, I mean I

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Speaker 1: I don't. I couldn't. I don't know how anyone can

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