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Speaker 1: Welcome to How the Money. I'm Joel, I'm Matt, and

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Speaker 1: today we're talking about creating a dope side hustle dope.

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Speaker 1: I just thought of how we haven't recorded at your

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Speaker 1: house on a long time, Man, and I miss riding

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Speaker 1: over on the bike. You have like an edge up

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Speaker 1: because you're all you got the blood flowing and get

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Speaker 1: your head clear, whereas I'm just sitting at home, putt

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Speaker 1: my girls down to bed and and the kid funk.

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Speaker 1: I think it's the best way to get you into it.

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Speaker 1: Then it's maybe a couple of like face laps for me.

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Speaker 1: What do you think do I'll get the blood flowing.

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Speaker 1: I'd like it all right done. Next next podcast, we'll

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Speaker 1: start off that way. I also wonder too, if we

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Speaker 1: recorded earlier, if that would if we would seem more alert,

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Speaker 1: you know, like in the morning. Do you do you

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Speaker 1: think better earlier in the morning. Yeah. But the tough

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Speaker 1: thing is, man would drink a beer. We have to

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Speaker 1: go into work or do something the rest of the

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Speaker 1: day and be productive. And you know, any time you

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Speaker 1: drink a beer before noon, it's just gonna throw your

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Speaker 1: whole day off. And in America it is definitely frowned

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Speaker 1: upon to drink before noon. Uh. So I want to

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Speaker 1: tell you one little life hack I did this week

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Speaker 1: that for me has been really helpful and larded from

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Speaker 1: our friend Andrew, and he keeps his phone on the

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Speaker 1: gray scale mode, and so I just gave that a try.

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Speaker 1: I switched my phone over in the settings to gray

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Speaker 1: scale mode, so my it looks like a black and

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Speaker 1: white photograph essentially, And uh, for me, it's actually made

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Speaker 1: want to look at it less. And so it's been

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Speaker 1: really helpful. I don't want to look at Facebook or

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Speaker 1: Instagram or any of that stuff nearly as much, just

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Speaker 1: because it's not nearly as advertising. It's so I'm using

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Speaker 1: my my phone in a little more utilitarian way as

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Speaker 1: opposed to just kind of like binging out on stuff.

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Speaker 1: It's been really nice to not care about my phone

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Speaker 1: nearly as much. Yeah, I've tried that, and you know,

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Speaker 1: I kind of went back to color because I like

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Speaker 1: the colors. I think I am curious to know how

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Speaker 1: much time I am actually spending, you know, on my

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Speaker 1: phone on certain apps, in particular Instagram, because with photography

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Speaker 1: I'm on their a bunch from with my company and

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Speaker 1: doing things like that. But I tried it out maybe

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Speaker 1: last year, I think, and yeah, I just switched back.

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Speaker 1: I can't remember a specific reason. I think I just

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Speaker 1: I was just kind of sick of it. Well, I

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Speaker 1: think for listeners out there who feel like they're on

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Speaker 1: their phone too much, it's worth at least given it

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Speaker 1: a shot, right going to your settings, try the great

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Speaker 1: scale mode. Uh. We have a friend, Matt, that we

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Speaker 1: just ran into random the other day at a brewery

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Speaker 1: it was gonna save it money on his service, which

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Speaker 1: doesn't make sense to me anyway, because there are a

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Speaker 1: But I love that idea though part part of me,

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Speaker 1: you know, access some of the articles I want to

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Speaker 1: Um yeah, gray scale on your phone in your settings.

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Speaker 1: Check that out. Uh, Matt, Let's get to the beer

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Speaker 1: that we're drinking today. Yeah, man, that's right. Today we

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Speaker 1: are drinking Tears of My Enemies. And this is a

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Speaker 1: beer by Monday Night Brewing. This is an Imperial Milk

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Speaker 1: Stout aged and Scotch barrels. So this is our second

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Speaker 1: beer from Monday Night Boom. It's gonna be so good.

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Speaker 1: They're the second return brewery, and I think we've mentioned

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Speaker 1: of our favorite breweries in our state and locally they're

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Speaker 1: just super awesome. And I'm really pumped about this because Matt,

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Speaker 1: And aside from that, we've had the bourbon barrel aged

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Speaker 1: We really appreciate it. And this bottle actually has this artwork.

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Speaker 1: It's fantastic. The name of this beer is Tears of

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Speaker 1: My Enemies. So let's say that this be actually was

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Speaker 1: about creating a dope side hustle. Yeah, you wanna get

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Speaker 1: you know, unemployment rates are crazy lower right now, which

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Speaker 1: mindset of I'm a business owner, now how can I

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Speaker 1: grow my business? Certainly you'll and more ownership in it.

431
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Speaker 1: You'll you'll be more creative, and you'll work harder, and

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Speaker 1: I think in the end you also just do a

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Speaker 1: better job at whatever it is that you're doing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So try to get into something that is potentially scalable

435
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Speaker 1: and the business that you could own, and the cool

436
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Speaker 1: thing is building that business will teach you a lot

437
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Speaker 1: and we'll give you more ownership. Right if you're treating

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Speaker 1: it like a business as opposed to treating it like

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Speaker 1: a way to make a few extra dollars. So if

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Speaker 1: you go drive for Uber left to you know, make

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Speaker 1: some extra bucks, like we talked about, to pay down

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Speaker 1: a debt. That's totally cool to get a second job

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Speaker 1: to do something like that, but it's not the same

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Speaker 1: as creating a side gig where you are using your

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Speaker 1: talents or something that you're interested in to actually build

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Speaker 1: something for the long term. And so Matt a mutual

447
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Speaker 1: friend of ours, Gary, he has an awesome example of

448
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Speaker 1: creating a side gig that turned into his full time job. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So Gary started walking dogs and random straight dogs, right, yeah,

450
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Speaker 1: just you you'd see dog and said you need to walk.

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Speaker 1: But he started walking dogs and started creating a business

452
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Speaker 1: like neighborhood dog walking, right, and anybody who they're work

453
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Speaker 1: and they can't walk their dog during the lunch break,

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Speaker 1: or people that were out of town, right exactly, and

455
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Speaker 1: it will it expanded to that, And so folks were

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Speaker 1: out of town and he would meet up and he

457
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Speaker 1: would figure out exactly how they did things. You know,

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Speaker 1: I've used them multiple times and it turned into a

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Speaker 1: full fledged business man. Him and his wife originally were

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Speaker 1: the old ones that were walking, but then it expanded

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Speaker 1: to having multiple employees, and to be honest, I haven't

462
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Speaker 1: talked him in a minute, but I don't know if

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Speaker 1: he even walks any dogs anymore. He just handles the

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Speaker 1: business and has employees on board. They're freaking crushing it.

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Speaker 1: They're doing an awesome job in Atlanta. Woa Doggie is

466
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Speaker 1: the name of his company. And that's the perfect example

467
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Speaker 1: of something that could be seen, certainly right as just

468
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Speaker 1: showing up. I'm just gonna do this, make a buck,

469
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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna be done with it. I don't really

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Speaker 1: care about the dog, don't really care about the clients.

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Speaker 1: I guess the clients are the dogs. No, they're not

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Speaker 1: paying that, they're not paying the fee. So, but he

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Speaker 1: took it a step further. You know, he went into

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Speaker 1: it with that mentality of like, I could do this,

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Speaker 1: How can I take this to the next level? How

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Speaker 1: can I turn this into an actual business? And so

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Speaker 1: he treated it like a legitimate business. And when he

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Speaker 1: started treating it like an actual business and responding to

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Speaker 1: people's texts and calls and emails in a timely fashion

480
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Speaker 1: and started doing an awesome job, well, the word got

481
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Speaker 1: around him. Before you know it, everybody in the city

482
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Speaker 1: wants him or wants his company to walk their dogs.

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Speaker 1: I love that example though, because oftentimes you hear walking

484
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Speaker 1: dogs is something that a middle schooler can do. Literally,

485
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Speaker 1: we've had middle schooler show upon our at our at

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Speaker 1: our door, knocking, just asking. It's like, do you have

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Speaker 1: a dog to walk? I'm like, no, you're not gonna

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Speaker 1: just like show up and like walk my dog. I

489
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Speaker 1: don't know you. I don't Seriously, I don't know these kids,

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Speaker 1: but they do it, and I kind of like that

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Speaker 1: they got gumption, right. But I say that because it's

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Speaker 1: something that anybody can do, but it's not everybody will

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Speaker 1: take it to the next level and treat it like

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Speaker 1: an actual business. Gary has and he's reaping the rewards

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Speaker 1: from it. Yeah. I think that's a great example. So

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Speaker 1: Gary built something right where he saw a need and

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Speaker 1: he saw a place like where he could kind of

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Speaker 1: fill that need, and he started off slow, but then

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Speaker 1: turn it into something that became ultimately his full time profession.

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Speaker 1: And then he's backed away from and other people are

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Speaker 1: walking the dogs now, and I think that's so cool.

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Speaker 1: Another thing I want to mention, Matt, so look at

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Speaker 1: your side hustle to develop skills and potential resume material.

504
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Speaker 1: So in the current world in which we work, some

505
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Speaker 1: of those side gigs that you're doing, whether it's creating

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Speaker 1: a podcast, writing a blog, developing those writing skills, taking

507
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Speaker 1: photos and creating like a photo blog, you know, whatever

508
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Speaker 1: it is, those sorts of skills can be so useful

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Speaker 1: in our day and age, to a business, to the

510
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Speaker 1: place where you currently work. And so I'll just kind

511
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Speaker 1: of talk about something that I did for a little bit.

512
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Speaker 1: I started a blog like six years ago, and it

513
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Speaker 1: was just to kind of get my thoughts out about

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Speaker 1: money and finance and how I handle money and how

515
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Speaker 1: I live life. And it really helped my writing skills.

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Speaker 1: But in the same time, I learned a lot about

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Speaker 1: search engine optimization, which then became helpful to my employer.

518
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Speaker 1: And I learned a lot about starting a WordPress website,

519
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Speaker 1: which also became helpful to my employer. So I wasn't

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Speaker 1: doing something that was detracting from my day job. I

521
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Speaker 1: was learning a lot of things. The writing skills, search

522
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Speaker 1: engine optimization, WordPress website development. I learned about all those things,

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Speaker 1: and then those those things that I then had a

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Speaker 1: lot of knowledge about, I was able to translate into

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Speaker 1: helping my employer asked for a new position, which came

526
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Speaker 1: with more money, and so it was basically because of

527
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Speaker 1: that side hustle, I learned a lot in self development,

528
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Speaker 1: but I also learned a lot that was able to

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Speaker 1: help me at my day job. Yeah. Man, that's awesome.

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Speaker 1: I love that. Yeah, and it makes me think of

531
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Speaker 1: back when I used to work for the advertising agency

532
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Speaker 1: I used to work for. Nobody knew how to do video,

533
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Speaker 1: and my boss kind of came to me and say, hey,

534
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Speaker 1: do you know how to sort of set up multiple

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Speaker 1: cameras and sort of put together an interview? And no

536
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Speaker 1: was the answer here, But I said I could figure

537
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Speaker 1: it out though, and I needed after watching some tutorials

538
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Speaker 1: online and setting things up. That was something that our

539
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Speaker 1: agency was able to offer a because I felt equipped

540
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Speaker 1: and sort of empowered by my boss. But then it was, yeah,

541
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Speaker 1: something I learned on my own. It was something I

542
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Speaker 1: was able to bring to the table to the agency

543
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Speaker 1: and something that I still can sort of put to

544
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Speaker 1: use now I haven't, but yeah, it's sort of something

545
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Speaker 1: a little skill I got in my back pocket, you know. Yeah,

546
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Speaker 1: it's really cool to think when your employer comes and

547
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Speaker 1: ask you, hey, do you know how to do this

548
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Speaker 1: or do you know someone that knows how to do it?

549
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Speaker 1: Developing ing, Yeah, like take a huge opportunity. Think of

550
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Speaker 1: that as an opportunity, not as like, oh, that's not

551
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Speaker 1: my thing. But if you can take that as an

552
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Speaker 1: opportunity to learn a new skill and provide something for

553
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Speaker 1: your employer, you're developing yourself at the same time, and

554
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Speaker 1: you're making yourself more invaluable, which can oftentimes lead to

555
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Speaker 1: another position or more pay in the job that you're

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Speaker 1: currently at, which is awesome. I love that awesome. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk about some specific examples of some side hustles

558
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Speaker 1: and side gigs that you can do, but first we're

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Speaker 1: gonna take a quick break alright, mat back to the

560
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Speaker 1: topic at hand and creating a dope side hustle. And

561
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Speaker 1: we said before the break that we're going to give examples,

562
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Speaker 1: so let's do that. There are some easy things you

563
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Speaker 1: can do, right, You mentioned lawnmowing at one point, pressure washing.

564
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Speaker 1: There are all these like little things that you can do.

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Speaker 1: You can learn a quick skill and build a business

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Speaker 1: surrounding that one skill. Yes, pressure washing specifically, I remember

567
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Speaker 1: you've mentioned that before, and that's something that you did

568
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Speaker 1: back in the day, right, So it was something I did,

569
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Speaker 1: but that was actually for me the way I classified things,

570
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Speaker 1: that was the second job. So you were just punching

571
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Speaker 1: the clock earning a buck, yeah exactly. So that was

572
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Speaker 1: like an hourly wage or a per house that I

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Speaker 1: got the pressure wash like, I made a flat fee

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Speaker 1: whatever it was. But what if you had purchased your

575
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Speaker 1: own pressure washer. That was the thing too. Yeah I

576
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Speaker 1: thought about that at some point, but ultimately that wasn't

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Speaker 1: what I wanted to do. I wasn't passionate about it.

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Speaker 1: I didn't care. Yeah, I think pressure washing sucks. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it sucks. I didn't enjoy it. For me, it was

580
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Speaker 1: everything everything. Yeah, for me, it was literally just a

581
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Speaker 1: second job. I wanted to work in radio, and so

582
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Speaker 1: I had to do something you know before before radio

583
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Speaker 1: every day so I could actually make ends meet, And

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Speaker 1: so pressure Washington was in. It was like the highest

585
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Speaker 1: wage I can make at that point in my life.

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Speaker 1: And so I did it for a year, um, while

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Speaker 1: I was working in the job that I really loved.

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Speaker 1: But that is a perfect example, right that I could

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Speaker 1: have done this and learned the skill and then translated

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Speaker 1: it into my own business. So I think there's value

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Speaker 1: to learning a specific skill while working for someone else

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Speaker 1: and then kind of translating that into your own business. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and what's so great about those examples to like even

594
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Speaker 1: clean this one's house, Like, these are things that anybody

595
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,359
Speaker 1: can do. It doesn't take a specialized skill, It doesn't

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Speaker 1: require really any special equipment, I guess except for a

597
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Speaker 1: pressure washing machine. You can even show up with a

598
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Speaker 1: sponge and a bucket from lows or maybe when you

599
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Speaker 1: find on the side of the road with some dish

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Speaker 1: soap and start showing up in houses and washing cars.

601
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Speaker 1: You don't even have to bring your own water. You

602
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Speaker 1: just use their hose and there are all your expenses.

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Speaker 1: To me, that doesn't require anything. And you really could

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Speaker 1: create your own business surrounding that model, start hiring other

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Speaker 1: people to do it. Granted, these are very very simple

606
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Speaker 1: sort of models, but it's as easy or it can

607
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 1: be as easy as that, and they can scale these

608
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 1: these businesses exactly. So you can take this car washing

609
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Speaker 1: business if you have an entrepreneurial mindset, and you can

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Speaker 1: go gung hole on this business and ultimately you can

611
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Speaker 1: turn it into your full time gig by hiring other

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Speaker 1: people out and scaling it, and all it really takes

613
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Speaker 1: is learning how to do something well and then work

614
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Speaker 1: in your butt off and finding the customer right. And

615
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Speaker 1: so you can do that with kind of these basic things.

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Speaker 1: So one thing we wanted to mention to be wary

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Speaker 1: of some of these app and platform based gigs, right

618
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Speaker 1: like Lift and Uber, like those bird scooters, Amazon Flex.

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Speaker 1: These are still gigs that require you to be a

620
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Speaker 1: cog in that big machine, working for the man, right,

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Speaker 1: and it doesn't lead to anything bigger. There's no potential

622
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Speaker 1: job independence when you work in this way, it's not

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Speaker 1: really sustainable. These might be fine as a second job, right,

624
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 1: like we talked about, but they're not really what we're

625
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 1: talking about when it comes to a side hustle. We're

626
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,160
Speaker 1: trying to talk about something that scales, or finding a

627
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 1: passion that you have or something that you are really

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Speaker 1: good at and want to develop on the side. That's

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Speaker 1: the kind of side hustle that we're talking about, not

630
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Speaker 1: just working more hours at another job to make a buck. Yeah. Man,

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Speaker 1: A lot of those sort of apps and jobs are

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Speaker 1: considered part of the sharing economy and the gig economy.

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Speaker 1: They're there are things that you just sort of show

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Speaker 1: up to. It doesn't require much thought. People like them

635
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 1: because they're easy. And again we talked about this earlier.

636
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Speaker 1: But if you just want to make a buck, then

637
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 1: sure that's something that you can you can sign up for.

638
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 1: You can start catching birds, charging, charging the scooters at

639
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 1: your house. It's an easy way to do something. It

640
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 1: requires very little commitment, it requires very little brain space

641
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 1: and creativity that does serve a purpose. You know that

642
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Speaker 1: that there's a spot for that for folks that are

643
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Speaker 1: just thinking, you know what, I'm not looking to create

644
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 1: something completely new. I don't have the mental capacity or

645
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 1: the bandwidth for that right now. That's maybe the only

646
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,199
Speaker 1: time that that sort of job might be good for

647
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 1: those folks. When I hear folks that say, oh, I

648
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 1: want to be a full time I want to be

649
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 1: a career lift driver, that's not what you want to do,

650
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 1: trust me, because eventually robots are gonna be driving those cars.

651
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 1: Or even as an individual, even though you might have

652
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 1: a fantastic uber driver's score, you're still beholden to that company.

653
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 1: And if they start saying, oh, well, you're gonna start

654
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 1: making this much less every day, I don't. I don't

655
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 1: even know how they get paid, but whatever the percentages,

656
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 1: say Uber wants to start taking a bigger cut, they

657
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 1: can't say anything. There's no union, there's no agreement that

658
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 1: says that you can negotiate. Like Joel said, you're just

659
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 1: a small cog in this sort of giant machine and

660
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 1: there's not a whole lot that you can do. That

661
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 1: being said, there's side hustles and side gigs that are

662
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 1: app based or you know, platform based that could lead

663
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 1: to something bigger. These are sites like Etsy or wags Wags,

664
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 1: a dog walking service, and you might think, well, no,

665
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:24,959
Speaker 1: that's not going to lead to something longer. But if

666
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 1: you know, if you can try out dog walking through

667
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 1: this app and then think, wait a minute, this is

668
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 1: something I kind of want to do. I really love animals,

669
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: I love getting exercise, I love being outside. Well, shoot,

670
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 1: why not? You can start your own business. And that's

671
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 1: a great way to say, try out a new sort

672
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 1: of PSI a gig, and the same thing with task

673
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 1: grab it and you to me. These are sort of

674
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 1: frameworks that you can get involved with. Right you can

675
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 1: become a task grab it guy where you're maybe really

676
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 1: handy and you're really good hanging up picture frames or something,

677
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: or you're a teacher and you want to put an

678
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 1: online course out there through the site. You to me, well,

679
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 1: you can try that out, and if that goes really well,

680
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 1: and you know you might want to your own individual thing, well,

681
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 1: you you feel empowered and you feel prepared maybe to

682
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 1: have sort of gotten through that initial phase of is

683
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 1: this going to be something I'm going to enjoy? And

684
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 1: then at that point, all right, time to think of

685
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 1: a name. What am I gonna call this dog walking service?

686
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna post online courses on how to program?

687
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 1: What am I going to call it? That's when you

688
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 1: start getting to that sort of creative energy and and

689
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 1: that's when it can lead to something bigger beyond just

690
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 1: that specific job. And that's what Yeah, that's what we

691
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 1: love so much. Yeah, it can take on your personality

692
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 1: and the things that you know you care about, and

693
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 1: so your customer gets to know you. It's not then

694
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 1: this generic service that they're booking something through their booking you, right,

695
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 1: and your ideas and your energy. And that's really cool

696
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 1: about what you can do with a side hustle. And

697
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 1: so also if you have a specialized skill, you can

698
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 1: freelance with that skill. Right, consider a site like upwork.

699
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 1: It's great for digital gigs where all you need is

700
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 1: a laptop like website development, design or writing. So if

701
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 1: you have a specialized knowledge, a great side hustle for

702
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 1: you is to write about it or use it in

703
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 1: service of other companies through a site like up work.

704
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:04,719
Speaker 1: That's right, man. And another option is to dream up

705
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: your own side hustle. It doesn't have to be something

706
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 1: that already exists, or where there's like an existing platform

707
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: for walking dogs. You can decide, oh, I'm gonna start

708
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 1: my own composting company. I saw that recently driving up

709
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:16,959
Speaker 1: the street, this big old truck, and I don't exactly

710
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 1: know how it works, but it said something about composting,

711
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 1: and I've never heard of that before. You know, this

712
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 1: is a brand new industry, and evidently it seems that

713
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: people are wanting it. I don't exactly again, I don't

714
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 1: know how it works. Maybe i'll look it up, but yeah,

715
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 1: think of something that appeals to you. You know, this

716
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: might be the hardest option out there, but it could

717
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 1: potentially be the most rewarding, both financially and emotionally. Um,

718
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 1: you can find it super fulfilling, and so you know,

719
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 1: things like starting a podcast. This isn't like the easiest

720
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 1: thing to do, and we're not making money yet, but

721
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: hopefully maybe someday we will. And the same thing though

722
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 1: with airbnb and house hacking. It takes a lot of

723
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 1: money to get that first house where you put down

724
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 1: and you're gonna consider renting out one of the rooms

725
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 1: on Airbnb, but that could be something that could really

726
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 1: pay off in the long run. The same thing with blogging, right, So,

727
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 1: I mean, so you started that blog a while back,

728
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 1: did you immediately start seeing were you raking the money in? No?

729
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 1: And actually, that's the thing too about blogging is it

730
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 1: takes years to really make any money from it. Uh.

731
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: And We've got a friend right now that just started

732
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 1: a blog and it's awesome. I really like what he's doing,

733
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 1: but I just kind of told him up front, Hey,

734
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a while until you make any money

735
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 1: off of this. So his blog is called you Can Man.

736
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 1: He's a photographer. He takes great pictures, and he's like

737
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: super handy, so he wants to help people figure out

738
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: how they can do some d I y projects around

739
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 1: their own house. So yeah, I love his site and

740
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 1: I love kind of what blogs can be. But the

741
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: thing is it's gonna be great for your skill development

742
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 1: and then only in the long term will it potentially

743
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 1: actually make you money. And it's gonna take a lot

744
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: of dedication for those first couple of years before you

745
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 1: kind of start seeing the fruit of your labors. So

746
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: that's why I think side gigs are something that you

747
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 1: actually probably need to think about long and hard before

748
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 1: you jump in, because it might be something that's gonna

749
00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: be a labor of love for a long time before

750
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 1: you actually start, you know, making it into a more

751
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 1: of a potential full time thing. Yeah. Man, I think

752
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 1: that is some great advice. Next, we're gonna talk about

753
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 1: some practical tips and pointers, but first let's take a

754
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: quick break. Okay, Joel, we're back now and we're gonna

755
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 1: talk about what to do next. So here is how

756
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 1: to find the right side gig for you. Uh. The

757
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 1: first thing you're gonna want to do is get inspiration

758
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 1: from the things that you love. This might take some

759
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 1: brainstorm and hopefully it's fairly obvious to you, but it

760
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 1: may not be. But think about what you have a

761
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 1: passion for right figure out a way to create some income,

762
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 1: figure out how to generate income and how to create

763
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 1: value out of something that you love to do. Uh.

764
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 1: For for those who want to pay for that, that

765
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 1: is going to be one of the easiest ways to

766
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 1: kind of constantly push yourself to do it because it's

767
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 1: something that you already love to do. Hopefully it doesn't

768
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 1: sort of smother the fire and smother that passion that

769
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: you have. But as long as you're having fun with it, man,

770
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 1: I think that's the perfect way to kind of blend

771
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:09,240
Speaker 1: your natural talents with also a way to make some income. Alright,

772
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 1: So another thing, get vision from what you already do.

773
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,240
Speaker 1: If you're a teacher, don't try and be a mechanic

774
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 1: unless that's randomly your passion on the side and you love,

775
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,280
Speaker 1: you know, fixing your friends cars on Saturdays and Sundays. Instead,

776
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 1: think about maybe writing and putting that expertise to use.

777
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,240
Speaker 1: You know, my father in law was talking about starting

778
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 1: a podcast because he teaches psychology, ap psychology and high

779
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,320
Speaker 1: school and so yeah, I think that'd be so interesting.

780
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 1: People would love to hear his thoughts on what he's teaching.

781
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,359
Speaker 1: That's awesome, and people love to use Podcasting is another

782
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 1: way to learn. So think about that instead, look to

783
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 1: your unique experiences, skills, and knowledge that could naturally align

784
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 1: with the way that you're seeing people make money out

785
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 1: there in the world. You know what this makes me

786
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 1: think of as the episode You've got to invest in

787
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 1: what you know competencies exactly. Yeah, find your core competencies, right,

788
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: like we talked about that was that was the that

789
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 1: was the key word competencease. Yes, So just like we

790
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 1: talked about in that episode, use those competencies that you

791
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 1: have developed well over the years and find a way

792
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 1: to make some income on the side. Thirdly, you want

793
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 1: to look for an opportunity in a market where you

794
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 1: could provide a service or product that doesn't yet exist.

795
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 1: I think a lot of times opportunists or something it

796
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 1: gets a bad rap right where someone's like, oh, you're

797
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 1: taking advantage of a situation, or oh, you're just an opportunist.

798
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 1: I don't know if that should be the case, because essentially,

799
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 1: what you're seeing is a need. You're seeing somewhere in

800
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 1: a market where that's something can be provided where there's

801
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: not currently a good product. Right. So specifically, I'm thinking of,

802
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 1: you know, over ten years ago, when Kate and I

803
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 1: started our wedding photography company. We were looking for a

804
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 1: specific type of photographer when we were getting married, and

805
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: we just weren't seeing it. We weren't seeing we couldn't

806
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: find an affordable photographer who was approaching wedding photography with

807
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 1: a photojournalistic approach. And we saw what we saw a

808
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 1: need and so we thought, you know what, this is

809
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: something that we could do. Literally, we could do it.

810
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:57,919
Speaker 1: We know we could take pictures. Kate, now, we're both

811
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 1: uh enjoyed photography, and so we just tried it out.

812
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 1: And for us, it was a side gig that quickly

813
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: became our main gig. It's something we did, you know,

814
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 1: all nights and weekends for a few months, but before

815
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 1: we know it, man, it took off and it was

816
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,399
Speaker 1: something that we were able to pursue. And it's been

817
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 1: my full time job now for ten years. And that

818
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,879
Speaker 1: was only something I was able to do because we

819
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 1: were able to see that there is a need. We

820
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 1: were able to see that there is an opportunity, and we,

821
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 1: you know, we jumped on it. We pounced. Yes, So

822
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:27,919
Speaker 1: you've gotta be willing to pounce when you see that need.

823
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,439
Speaker 1: And the other thing, don't be afraid to just try

824
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: it out. Don't worry about the possibility of failing. You're

825
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,359
Speaker 1: going to fail on this small scale and you'll learn

826
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 1: a lot about failing on a small scale and sometimes

827
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 1: doing it wrong the first time can be that best

828
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 1: way to learn. You might not realize that you enjoy

829
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 1: writing until you do it, and starting small can allow

830
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 1: any of the mistakes that you make to also be small.

831
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if you make a mistake in your

832
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 1: side hustle, right, because ultimately it's about learning. It's about

833
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 1: putting your skills to the test, and it's about kind

834
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,240
Speaker 1: of finding that thing that you truly are passionate about

835
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 1: that you can all really grow into something bigger over time.

836
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 1: All right, man, let's uh, let's get back to this beer.

837
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 1: So Tears of My Enemies. So you mentioned that we

838
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 1: saw we ran across a friend who was over at

839
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: a brewery. This is we're actually at Monday night over

840
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 1: on the West Side. We're at the Monday Night garage

841
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 1: and that's where we saw Stephen with his uh with

842
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 1: his uber hipster flip phone, hundred dollar flip phone. Sorry Stephen,

843
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 1: frugal fail. Yeah, but tears of my enemies, man, this

844
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 1: was delicious. It's an Imperial milk stout aged in Scotch

845
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:31,320
Speaker 1: barrels with chocolate coffee in vanilla. Uh and that was awesome.

846
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,320
Speaker 1: I'm done with mine. It was really tasty. Oh you

847
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,839
Speaker 1: beat me to it. That's why I roll guzzling those milkstouts.

848
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 1: And thanks again with the fellows at Monday night for

849
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,919
Speaker 1: providing this beer. All right, man, let's give our quick

850
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,800
Speaker 1: final thoughts. So again, I just want to reiterate the

851
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 1: difference between the side hustle and the second job, and

852
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 1: I think it's really important. If you're thinking about starting

853
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 1: a dope side hustle, you don't want to be thinking

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Speaker 1: of it as the second job where you're going somewhere

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Speaker 1: to work to make a little bit of extra money

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Speaker 1: to pay for your lifestyle or to try to reach

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Speaker 1: your financial goals sooner, right. You want to think about

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00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:08,720
Speaker 1: a side hustle as either developing skills for your resume

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00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 1: at your current employer that you are interested in learning,

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00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 1: or to help you create a new income stream that

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Speaker 1: can ultimately lead to becoming a full time gig for you,

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Speaker 1: or at least something that's a fun money maker on

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Speaker 1: the side. Yeah, man, that's right. So a good side

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Speaker 1: gig can be, like you said, anything that you're having

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Speaker 1: fun with that you are making a buck. But like

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Speaker 1: you said, a better side gig, a better side hustle

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Speaker 1: is something that's scalable. And what we mean by that

868
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Speaker 1: is that it doesn't require you necessarily to be there

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00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 1: in order to make that money. Right, and so if

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Speaker 1: you're driving for Uber or Lift, or if you're slinging

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00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 1: packages with Amazon flex, uh, these are things that require

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00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 1: you to be there and you're beholding to that specific company.

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Speaker 1: What you want to consider our some jobs, some side

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00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,919
Speaker 1: hustles where you can sort of run with it, and

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00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 1: ultimately something where you don't necessarily have to be there.

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Speaker 1: What would be ideal is if you had to a

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00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 1: job like like we talked about with Gary, is something

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00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 1: that he started, He kind of figured it out, he

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00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 1: laid the groundwork for it, and now he's got employees.

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00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 1: He's got great folks that have come on board, and

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00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 1: now they're the ones that are walking the pets and

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00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 1: and he I think he still handles a lot of

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00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 1: the business aspects of it, but he's able to pursue

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00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 1: other things that he enjoys now like partying in Cabo

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00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 1: because he makes that whoa doggy money. Now he actually

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00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 1: is getting into a photography he I mean, he does

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00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,359
Speaker 1: amazing architectural photography now, which is super cool. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: and that's probably another like side gig that he's interested

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Speaker 1: in exactly exactly. It takes me back to my roots.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he's gonna expand it beyond what I've even done,

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Speaker 1: and he's gonna have a whole stable of photographers that

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Speaker 1: shoots for him. So yeah, that's a great way to

893
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,879
Speaker 1: think about it. You want to pursue side gigs that

894
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 1: are something that might lead to something bigger that can

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00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 1: lead to employment independence and ultimately financial independence. You know,

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00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 1: a reason that we talked about this is because we

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00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: want you guys to have options and these are things

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00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 1: that we're pursuing. And so try to avoid pigeonholing yourself

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Speaker 1: in a sort of a dead end job that always

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00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 1: requires you to be the one making the money. Yeah,

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00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 1: and another thing, as side hustle can take a little

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Speaker 1: bit of time to figure out, right, it takes some

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Speaker 1: trial and error, it takes a little bit of failure. Ultimately,

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Speaker 1: you have to be okay with with a certain amount

905
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Speaker 1: of failure and you'll actually learn through your failures, and

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00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 1: you also have to be okay with it taking a

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00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 1: little more time, and you also have to be okay

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Speaker 1: not seeing the results for a little while, because the

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00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: side gig can take some time to actually bring in

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Speaker 1: those profits to actually feel like it's paying dividends. So

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Speaker 1: that's why it has to be something that you care

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Speaker 1: about that interests you, because a dope side hustle isn't

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Speaker 1: necessarily going to start bringing in the bucks right away. Yeah, man, exactly.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about creating a dope side hustle and Matt,

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Speaker 1: this is our side hustle. That's right, man. We are

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Speaker 1: having a blast doing this podcast. And guess what, we've

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Speaker 1: hit over a hundred reviews on Apple Podcasts. So if

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Speaker 1: you have enjoyed this podcast, if you're getting value from it,

919
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: if you would consider leaving a review wherever you listen

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00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: to podcasts, we would really appreciate it because we're pumped

921
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Speaker 1: to come in here and create this content every week,

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Speaker 1: and we're we're pumped about the community that's developing around

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Speaker 1: the show. A man to know that we've basically got

924
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 1: the best listeners out there and they are showing their appreciation,

925
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 1: you know, by leaving the review, leaving a little rating

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Speaker 1: there that helps us out tremendously to spread the word

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Speaker 1: for folks who haven't come across our podcast yet. So

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Speaker 1: so all of you listeners out there who have done that, Man,

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Speaker 1: thank you guys so much. To check out our home

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Speaker 1: on the web, how to money dot com. We'll have

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Speaker 1: our show notes up there. We'll be ready for you, Joel.

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Speaker 1: Until next time, Man, best friends out, Best Friends Out,