Speaker 1: I want to address an important story that will affect
Speaker 1: at least one hundred and seventy million Americans who used TikTok.
Speaker 1: Earlier today, the Supreme Court unanimously upheld a law that
Speaker 1: would effectively ban the social media platform in the United States.
Speaker 2: This coming Sunday.
Speaker 1: The Court rejected an appeal from the apps owners that
Speaker 1: claimed the ban violated the First Amendment. In its opinion,
Speaker 1: the Supreme Court acknowledged that for one hundred and seventy
Speaker 1: million Americans, TikTok offers quote a distinctive and expansive outlet
Speaker 1: for expression, means of engagement, and source of community end quote.
Speaker 1: But the Court said Congress was focused on national security
Speaker 1: concerns and that was a deciding factor in how.
Speaker 2: It weighed the case.
Speaker 1: They said, quote, Congress has determined that divestiture is necessary
Speaker 1: to address its well supported national security concerns regarding TikTok's
Speaker 1: data collection practices and relationship with the foreign adversary end quote.
Speaker 1: The foreign adversary would be China. So what happens next?
Speaker 1: The focus now shifts the President elect Donald Trump, who
Speaker 1: can intervene after he takes office on Monday. Speaking to
Speaker 1: CNN after the ruling. Trump said, quote, it ultimately up
Speaker 1: goes up to me, so you're going to see what
Speaker 1: I'm going to do.
Speaker 2: End quote.
Speaker 1: Trump also acknowledged that he spoke to Chinese President Jishingping
Speaker 1: earlier today. Again, roughly one hundred and seventy million Americans
Speaker 1: and more than one billion people worldwide used TikTok, according
Speaker 1: to the company. I'm torn, But let me be very clear,
Speaker 1: I'm only torn because of the moment that we're living in.
Speaker 1: We're about to have on a guest who, along with
Speaker 1: his wife, is making some money, money they desperately need
Speaker 1: because they lost their home in the fires and palisades.
Speaker 2: Their parents lost their home as well.
Speaker 1: And a guy's name is Spencer Pratt, and he's about
Speaker 1: to come on here in a few minutes to talk
Speaker 1: to us about what he lost, how he lost, what
Speaker 1: he was able to retain or to save and conserve,
Speaker 1: and what he ultimately had to forfeit because the fires
Speaker 1: wouldn't allow otherwise. He encouraged people to go and listen
Speaker 1: to her music and what have you. Apparently people have
Speaker 1: been doing that and they've been using that as you know,
Speaker 1: music on TikTok and stuff like that, and it's gone viral,
Speaker 1: and as a result, they're generating some revenue off of that.
Speaker 2: And there's no crime in that.
Speaker 1: When you see something like that, you make money any
Speaker 1: way you can, legally, any way you can in such
Speaker 1: desperate times. They're not robbing anybody, they're not killing anybody,
Speaker 1: They're not doing anything. So as far as I'm concerned, hell, YouTube,
Speaker 1: why we got to show on YouTube? Why does everybody
Speaker 1: got a podcast and it's running on video and YouTube
Speaker 1: and other platforms because you're gonna generate revenue for it.
Speaker 2: So I get that part.
Speaker 1: But national security is national security, and if Congress has
Speaker 1: a concern about that, maybe the appropriate decision would be
Speaker 1: to delay it for about a few months or so.
Speaker 1: As one Democratic representative is suggesting, maybe that's something that
Speaker 1: you do, I don't know. I'm just reading from an
Speaker 1: article here on the Verge. I believe it says the
Speaker 1: Supreme Court couldn't have been more direct. The Protecting Americans
Speaker 1: from Foreign Adversary Control Applications Act as applied to TikTok
Speaker 1: with Stan's First Amendment scrutiny and can take effect on
Speaker 1: January nineteenth. The Court agree that the government had a
Speaker 1: compelling national security interest in passing the law, and that
Speaker 1: its rationale was content neutral. The solution proposed forcing Chinese
Speaker 1: parent company Bite Dance Byte Byte Dance to divest TikTok
Speaker 1: or see it outsted from the US was ruled appropriately
Speaker 1: tailored to meet those needs.
Speaker 2: So essentially, here's the deal.
Speaker 1: Somebody out there needs to be able to purchase this
Speaker 1: from Byte Dance, so it's no longer under Chinese authority.
Speaker 1: Because evidently we've got an issue with the Chinese government
Speaker 1: using TikTok to influence so many American citizens, especially the
Speaker 1: youth amongst US. Now, I do know that TikTok is
Speaker 1: banned in places like Iran, Afghanistan, Somalia, places like that.
Speaker 1: Why is it banned there but not here? Who else
Speaker 1: is thinking about banning TikTok? What's their rationale behind it?
Speaker 1: Evidently the Chinese government has figured out a way to
Speaker 1: utilize TikTok not only to spy on American citizens, but
Speaker 1: also to influence the youth amongst US. And it's so
Speaker 1: alarming that the United States government has considered it a.
Speaker 2: National security concern.
Speaker 1: I say, those security concerns usurp our preferences. I got
Speaker 1: my daughters crying about TikTok, talking.
Speaker 2: About it's not fair. I don't like it. It's not right, daddy.
Speaker 1: I'm like, wait a minute, I happen to believe you
Speaker 1: on TikTok do damn much myself, And what the hell
Speaker 1: are you looking at on there?
Speaker 2: And why do you believe? But that's the best source
Speaker 2: of news that.
Speaker 1: You can find because we can't stop everything. You can
Speaker 1: take their phones away. They got an iPad or a laptop,
Speaker 1: they use it. Then they use other people's phone, they
Speaker 1: exchange messages, they're reading the news.
Speaker 2: They're acting like it's the modern day ABC News or something.
Speaker 2: That's how these kids feel about TikTok.
Speaker 1: So I don't blame the government for feeling this way,
Speaker 1: but national securities, national security. I don't blame the government
Speaker 1: for being concerned. But to sort of meet your middle ground,
Speaker 1: maybe Trump comes in and you delayed this decision from
Speaker 1: being made for a few months until folks get their
Speaker 1: bearings under them.
Speaker 2: Maybe that's what you do.
Speaker 1: Anyway, To my next guest, the former star of the
Speaker 1: hit MTV reality show The Hills, he and his wife
Speaker 1: Heidi Montag recently lost their home in the Palisades fire,
Speaker 1: please Welcome to the show, Spencer Pratt, Spencer, how are
Speaker 1: you How you feeling? How you feeling these days? I
Speaker 1: know it's a lot going on. Put in the words
Speaker 1: how you feeling?
Speaker 3: Man, I just been on highs and lows, an emotional
Speaker 3: roller coaster. So thankfully a lot of positive things are
Speaker 3: happening to us now that.
Speaker 4: I can stay focused on.
Speaker 3: So I don't you know, I try not to call
Speaker 3: my mom because you know, she lost her house also,
Speaker 3: so you know, if I call my mom, you know,
Speaker 3: then we go sideways, and so I try to just
Speaker 3: stay on the stay in the light.
Speaker 4: There's a lot of lot of sad things going on,
Speaker 4: you know, but I'm looking at the positives.
Speaker 1: Take me back to the evening of January seventh, When
Speaker 1: did you realize you were going to have to evacuate?
Speaker 1: The fires were coming and you were going to have
Speaker 1: to evacuate.
Speaker 3: So the night before I looked out the wind our
Speaker 3: sun at like one hundred and four degree temperatures, So
Speaker 3: we were up real late at night and the winds out.
Speaker 3: The the look I got of the Twisters movie, I
Speaker 3: never seen anything like it, and my I just got
Speaker 3: hit with the worst feeling. I was like, if there
Speaker 3: was a fire, we're in big trouble. I never had
Speaker 3: a feeling like that. So then in the morning, you know,
Speaker 3: everything's going normal. And our our nanny that was helping
Speaker 3: that day, she went to take our child up on
Speaker 3: our hiking trail and she runs down and she said,
Speaker 3: the construction workers just said there's a.
Speaker 4: Fire and you need to get out of here.
Speaker 3: And respectfully to her, you know, I've lived there in
Speaker 3: policies my whole life. I know there's little fires pop
Speaker 3: up and they hit it with the plane. So I said,
Speaker 3: let me go check it out. See how you know
Speaker 3: what we're talking about. So I hiked up the trail
Speaker 3: where we always hang out, and I see a few
Speaker 3: ridges over, you know, some smoke, but it's it's not
Speaker 3: like I haven't seen flames yet.
Speaker 4: And I'm thinking, Okay. I call my wife and she's
Speaker 4: I said, you know, maybe pack some stuff up.
Speaker 3: You know, I think we're good. When these planes hit this,
Speaker 3: we're gonna be good. I think we can calm down.
Speaker 3: So the next thing, you know, the two yellow planes
Speaker 3: just start hitting it like out of an action movie.
Speaker 3: I mean, we're talking as close as you could get
Speaker 3: to the ground.
Speaker 4: Maybe I got videos of it.
Speaker 3: It was the coolest thing i'd seen before when it
Speaker 3: was a positive and they're going and getting out of
Speaker 3: the ocean and they're coming back, and I said, oh,
Speaker 3: we're good. They got this under control. But then I
Speaker 3: see from my advantage point that it creeped down from
Speaker 3: this one ridge and I see it start heading towards like,
Speaker 3: you know, it's far away still, so I'm thinking, Okay,
Speaker 3: the fire truck goes on that street and stops it
Speaker 3: on that house, We're still good. So I'm watching it
Speaker 3: creep down from this hill and it hits the first house,
Speaker 3: and this is the first time I've ever seen a
Speaker 3: house catch on fire. And you know, I'm seeing people
Speaker 3: riding by. You know, this is far away, but I'm
Speaker 3: you know, seeing it, and I've seen people riding by
Speaker 3: on bikes. I'm like, okay, they must know, you know,
Speaker 3: the firemen are coming. It must not look that bad
Speaker 3: because it doesn't look like everyone's freaking out and driving away.
Speaker 3: So that house I see way down the way catches
Speaker 3: on fire. And now a little while later, the planes
Speaker 3: kind of you know, they were hitting it for a
Speaker 3: good long time. So I don't want to be like
Speaker 3: they just bounced right away. But now the planes leave,
Speaker 3: the planes are gone, and now I'm starting to see
Speaker 3: the flames come.
Speaker 4: And now I call my wife.
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, this is not looking good, you know,
Speaker 3: unless a fire truck gets here on our street. Because
Speaker 3: thankfully I always had such confidence because we did have
Speaker 3: one of those water reservoirs. And these guys came and
Speaker 3: I saw them turning it on and water was coming
Speaker 3: out of the top, and I said, is that for
Speaker 3: those helicopters.
Speaker 4: That dip the thing in. He's like yeah, yeah, like
Speaker 4: when they come in here, we don't know. So I
Speaker 4: was still like, Oh, they got the water here, the
Speaker 4: helicopter's gonna come and they're gonna drop it on it.
Speaker 4: We're gonna be good. That didn't happen.
Speaker 3: No fire truck came, so I called nine one one
Speaker 3: and they're connected me to the fire department, and the
Speaker 3: fire departments like, I'm sorry, we don't have the assets.
Speaker 4: There's no fire truck coming.
Speaker 3: So I said to my wife, you better pack anything
Speaker 3: you ever want to keep, And so that's what I
Speaker 3: knew was getting real. So she loaded up fast and
Speaker 3: she left to go to my parents' house, which is
Speaker 3: so far from our house in the like you know
Speaker 3: when I say so far on the Palisades, the idea
Speaker 3: of that not being a safe place, like like, go
Speaker 3: to my parents' house, you'll be safe because you could
Speaker 3: never comprehend up on our top hill, like we're the
Speaker 3: top of the Palisades.
Speaker 4: You know, where it makes sense that the fire could hit.
Speaker 3: But when my parents live, it's like down by the
Speaker 3: ocean side of the Palisades. So like my parents' house
Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty five years old. And I said
Speaker 3: to my dad when I found out he had no insurance,
Speaker 3: I'm like, you do not have insurance?
Speaker 4: He said, the house of one hundred and twenty five
Speaker 4: years old.
Speaker 3: I knew if it ever burned down, it would mean
Speaker 3: the whole town would have to burn down. And unfortunately, horribly,
Speaker 3: that's what happens. So Heidi goes with the kids to
Speaker 3: my parents' house with all our belongings and my older
Speaker 3: sister because we're not watching the news because the kid
Speaker 3: was sick, our son was sick with one hundred and
Speaker 3: four degrees or watching Blue Wee or Curious George whatever
Speaker 3: I keep calling him, like put on the news, like
Speaker 3: what's going on? It's like, I can't you know when
Speaker 3: the kids only you know it is what it is.
Speaker 3: We probably should have looked on the news, but I guess,
Speaker 3: but we weren't awhereof we're like the last people still
Speaker 3: in the palace and its everybody had already evacuated and
Speaker 3: got stuck on the streets on Sunset with the fire
Speaker 3: hitting them and people are running down the street and
Speaker 3: they had to. So the positive out of that is
Speaker 3: we didn't get stuck in that where everyone got trapped
Speaker 3: in the cars and they abandoned the cars because we
Speaker 3: weren't watching the news and we didn't know. I was
Speaker 3: just watching one piece over by our house. But that
Speaker 3: house that I saw, that initial one, it started going
Speaker 3: down that street and then it went down into the
Speaker 3: town across Sunset and now it's coming up onto Mescal
Speaker 3: Cannon by Pally High and now it's coming at my parents' house.
Speaker 3: So my listers were calls get out of there. So
Speaker 3: that my mom took nothing like we're not like, you know,
Speaker 3: we got some teddy bears and some kids clothes and
Speaker 3: you know, like three suitcases quick this My mom got nothing.
Speaker 1: I want to ask you because I remember if I
Speaker 1: remember correctly. I saw you doing an interview on Good
Speaker 1: Morning in America and you were essentially detailing the shock
Speaker 1: of the loss of your home. Men, how you didn't
Speaker 1: have fire insurance. Can you explain, first of all, is
Speaker 1: that accurate? And secondly, why was that the case when
Speaker 1: it came to you. I understand what your dad at all,
Speaker 1: because the house was one hundred and twenty five years of.
Speaker 2: Age, But what about yourself? Why was that?
Speaker 4: So?
Speaker 3: We had farmers like the great like I would be
Speaker 3: set right now if I still had farmers, but they
Speaker 3: after the Woosley fire, I think farmers. Don't quote me exact,
Speaker 3: I don't know about I thought of Mercury.
Speaker 4: I know farmers dropped.
Speaker 3: Us and a lot of people in the Palisades after
Speaker 3: those fires. So the only thing we could get, honestly,
Speaker 3: thank god, we got is this thing called California Fair Plan.
Speaker 3: But it just covers I'm talking, you know, it's not
Speaker 3: covering anything that our house had and what was in it.
Speaker 4: I mean maybe a little bit, but not like a
Speaker 4: real insurance.
Speaker 3: So you know, I'm thankful we even got that little something,
Speaker 3: but it's not enough to rebuild a house. You know,
Speaker 3: we put all the money. We've been hustling for for
Speaker 3: seventeen years. It was just in our house house from
Speaker 3: you know, the kitchen knives, to the dishes to the
Speaker 3: sheet like you know, we just had a nice little
Speaker 3: setup and.
Speaker 4: We didn't have some mansion. The house was three thousand
Speaker 4: square feet.
Speaker 3: Let's be clear, Like, you know, people just think the
Speaker 3: Palace is all these this one hundred millionaire rich people,
Speaker 3: movie stars. Like I've been in the palastates since I
Speaker 3: was born. It was just became all these rich people
Speaker 3: came and jacked up all the prices in the last
Speaker 3: like six years. I feel like, so this is like
Speaker 3: a new thing where you think of the Palate.
Speaker 4: Like when I was growing up, it was not like
Speaker 4: these all ballers.
Speaker 3: Was a small little town and it's like that's all
Speaker 3: my friends and family that lost their house.
Speaker 4: You know, I was horrible that anybody lost their house.
Speaker 3: But when people are like, you know, you see a
Speaker 3: lot of negativity, like, oh, these are just you know,
Speaker 3: rich people.
Speaker 4: It's like, these are people who've been in the palace
Speaker 4: a sixty years.
Speaker 3: My next door neighbor, Calliope, the lovely Greek lady, she's
Speaker 3: been in the palace. Its for like I want to
Speaker 3: say seventy years. I don't want to like say she's
Speaker 3: a hundred. But my point is everyone on my block
Speaker 3: have like they're lost everything.
Speaker 4: They're not these like So that's this disconnect, you know.
Speaker 1: The disconnect, and I want to get to that because
Speaker 1: you know, you've been criticized on social media for your
Speaker 1: emotional interview and for wearing a shirt promoting your wife's music.
Speaker 1: Obviously by promoting your wife's music, y'all have been able
Speaker 1: to generate some revenue for yourself. I don't see I
Speaker 1: don't see the problem with that, especially during the time
Speaker 1: like this, but I wanted to know what you had
Speaker 1: to say and what your thoughts were about what the critics.
Speaker 2: Were having to say about you and your wife.
Speaker 3: The first off, people have been following me for like
Speaker 3: the last solid two years on Snapchat.
Speaker 4: They know I only have Heidi Merch shirts.
Speaker 3: So when I evacuated, I got my Heidi Merch shirts,
Speaker 3: like seven of them. That's really my only clothes, and
Speaker 3: even if I have more clothes, I'd only be wearing
Speaker 3: the Heidi shirts. Because you can go back a year.
Speaker 3: Every single day on Snapchat, every shirt I ever wear
Speaker 3: is Heidi, So just because this tragedy I've been I'm
Speaker 3: not like changing my style and my appearance. I wear
Speaker 3: shorts and I wear a Heidi shirt every day to
Speaker 3: promote my wife's music. So I didn't like switch up, like,
Speaker 3: oh I'm on Good Morning America. Let me get some merch.
Speaker 4: To put on.
Speaker 3: You know, this has then my identity since I started,
Speaker 3: you know, goes way back. And then for critics that
Speaker 3: are saying that, you know, they're always dealt with negativity
Speaker 3: controls and I'm fine with it and I love the
Speaker 3: engagement thing, but this time it just truly makes no
Speaker 3: sense because I'm trying to rebuild a life from my
Speaker 3: two kids and my parents and a family. It's like
Speaker 3: I'm trying to get money anyway I can on TikTok lives,
Speaker 3: getting gifts, Snapchat, selling crystals, t shirts, Heighti's music. Like
Speaker 3: there's full transparency. So the critics, that's not a critic
Speaker 3: to me, that's what somebody describing exactly what I'm gonna
Speaker 3: do and tell.
Speaker 4: We rebuild a house for ourselves, and we rebuild the
Speaker 4: house for my mom.
Speaker 3: I told my mom I'm gonna get all things she
Speaker 3: collected or hula dolls, replaced and anything I can. I'm
Speaker 3: gonna make sure that my mom and she looks back
Speaker 3: at this, it's not the end of her life and
Speaker 3: she's like, my son helped rebuild our world.
Speaker 2: Spencer, what kind of money are we talking about here?
Speaker 1: And did you ever anticipate that you would be able
Speaker 1: you and your wife would be able to generate this
Speaker 1: kind of revenue? And again, it's not a crime you're asking.
Speaker 1: You're not robbing anybody or anything like this. I just
Speaker 1: want to stay for the record, I have no problem
Speaker 1: whatsoever with what you're doing.
Speaker 2: I'm just curious as to how.
Speaker 1: Successful this has been for you, and I'm hesitant to
Speaker 1: use that word in light of the circumstances you and
Speaker 1: your parents losing their home.
Speaker 2: Please understand that.
Speaker 4: One hundred percent.
Speaker 3: So we've never made I have no idea about music.
Speaker 3: Everyone's like, you're not actually making that money. You get
Speaker 3: zero zero zero, zero zero point one percent of stream
Speaker 3: so I don't even know, Like you don't get the
Speaker 3: checks for like three months. I guess again, this is
Speaker 3: new where Heidi's a global music pop stars, so I
Speaker 3: can't be like, oh, last month, and you know this
Speaker 3: is brand new, four days old, so I have no
Speaker 3: idea how much money the music is going to generate,
Speaker 3: God willing, but you know, I'm like, you know, TikTok.
Speaker 3: Here's the craziest thing about you know, I went up
Speaker 3: a million followers in a week. So the way these
Speaker 3: RPMs work on these videos because I'm in the creator
Speaker 3: fund and somebody explained it to me, and I only
Speaker 3: get ten cents. So I got to make a minute video,
Speaker 3: minute and one second video and I get ten cents
Speaker 3: back if like a certain amount of millions of people
Speaker 3: watch it, engage and watch that minute.
Speaker 4: So like on TikTok, I made four hundred million views
Speaker 4: worth of videos.
Speaker 3: And I'm not kidding. We'll check the screenshots. I'll send
Speaker 3: your producer as evidence. I don't think I made more
Speaker 3: than six thousand dollars. So it's not like, oh my god.
Speaker 3: You know, on the TikTok lives, when people choose to
Speaker 3: send me, you know, you go live and people choose
Speaker 3: to send me their gifts. They don't have to they
Speaker 3: can tap the screen, they can share, and I tell
Speaker 3: people you don't got money, don't send it to me.
Speaker 4: I just I'm happy you're here supporting.
Speaker 3: But the other night, you know, I went live for
Speaker 3: thirty minutes and there, you know, which was a big night.
Speaker 3: It was incredible. It was eighteen thousand dollars with a miracle.
Speaker 4: You know. You know, we got a long way to
Speaker 4: go to get these millions.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to get obviously, but you know, that was
Speaker 3: a huge blessing and I was so thankful.
Speaker 4: But it's not rolling in. You know, I'm hustling to
Speaker 4: get to like.
Speaker 3: You know, people keep following me a rich celebrity, is like,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, a week ago, my Google network for
Speaker 3: the last fifteen years was like washed up z listed
Speaker 3: with a thousand dollars. But now I'm getting hate for
Speaker 3: like trying to hustle to get become an actual rich celebrity.
Speaker 3: So it's just weird, like, oh now now rich celebrity
Speaker 3: wants money. I'm like, nobody's calling me a rich celebrity
Speaker 3: for the last fifteen years. So and then one of
Speaker 3: our friends in Georgia just that you know, a random
Speaker 3: guy that I met on TikTok live that became a
Speaker 3: close friend through social media on TikTok not random.
Speaker 4: Now he's a good friend, but.
Speaker 3: Him and his wife when this all happened with nothing
Speaker 3: to do with us. They made a GoFundMe, which was
Speaker 3: a miracle because I was in didn't I was hustling.
Speaker 3: I didn't even know what so they did that, and
Speaker 3: that's been. I think that's over.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: The other day I read through on TikTok every single
Speaker 3: person at the time their name, and I thank them
Speaker 3: for their donation, and again people are like, always ask them,
Speaker 3: it's five dollars.
Speaker 4: It's five dollars.
Speaker 3: It's five dollars because I'm not complaining about but people
Speaker 3: are just buying me a nice latte, you know, like
Speaker 3: these aren't people like, oh he's you know, so you
Speaker 3: know there's some nicer people.
Speaker 4: Maybe I have more money that did put more than.
Speaker 3: That, But if you go look, the average is five
Speaker 3: dollars seven dollars. So it's not this like crazy how
Speaker 3: Spencer's asking people to give them their paycheck. You know,
Speaker 3: it's just you know, so it adds up with volumes.
Speaker 3: So that's incredible. Another miracle because there's no.
Speaker 2: Crowd of that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I know, you're making money on social media
Speaker 1: the way a whole bunch of people have made money
Speaker 1: on social media.
Speaker 2: It's no big deal.
Speaker 1: But let me ask you this because I'm thinking about
Speaker 1: HOWI your The album She Did. It was released in
Speaker 1: twenty ten, and fans have supported you all in light
Speaker 1: of what's going on. It reached number one for both
Speaker 1: song and album this week on the iTunes charts. Your
Speaker 1: thoughts or the put potensi of TikTok getting banned come
Speaker 1: January nineteenth.
Speaker 2: You thought about that at all? What are your thoughts?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've thought about it a lot, so of course,
Speaker 3: Like the thing that haunts me the most is the
Speaker 3: flames coming down my street when I drove away and
Speaker 3: I was watching and I've been comparing it in my brain.
Speaker 3: TikTok being banned now was like a new flame coming
Speaker 3: down the street to trying to burn up everything I
Speaker 3: have and that I built because in the last week,
Speaker 3: the power and the love and community the people on TikTok.
Speaker 3: You know, obviously I got great people on Snapchat and ig,
Speaker 3: but TikTok's power the way everybody gets together, Like somebody said,
Speaker 3: what they're doing for us is the greatest group project
Speaker 3: this ever existed on the Internet, where everyone's come together
Speaker 3: and they're making remixes and they're tagging and they're reaching
Speaker 3: out and they're making sure famous people posted, and it's
Speaker 3: just like this organization of so many humans from all
Speaker 3: over the world. That's why Heidi was number one, and
Speaker 3: Oman Netherlands, Canada, I mean, the list was fifteen number
Speaker 3: ones out of America. And it's all because of TikTok.
Speaker 3: I mean, we don't have presence in these places. So
Speaker 3: it's just the most insane, horrible extra little, like of
Speaker 3: all the weeks, I've needed something more, just dealing with
Speaker 3: that stress of now and that anxiety of like the
Speaker 3: most powerful platform that's helping us rebuild our lives is
Speaker 3: being taken away. It's another tragedy.
Speaker 1: Well listen, man, all the best to you, your wife,
Speaker 1: your parents. Of course, you're doing nothing wrong. You're not
Speaker 1: robbing the stealer from anybody. People are making so hell,
Speaker 1: I'm doing this show with you. It's gonna be on YouTube.
Speaker 2: You understand.
Speaker 1: We ultimately generate a revenue because of that. There's no
Speaker 1: crime in what you're doing. You do what you have
Speaker 1: to as long as it's legal and it ain't hurting anybody.
Speaker 2: The hell with all of them.
Speaker 1: You do what you gotta do to take care of
Speaker 1: yourself and your family, My man, you take care of
Speaker 1: yourself a right so much. Spencer Pratt rady on a
Speaker 1: Stephen A. Smith Show, And I mean that, I.
Speaker 2: Know what's he doing wrong? What's he doing with?
Speaker 1: What's all the noise about? It's all the noise about.
Speaker 1: I don't get that. I don't understand that. You got
Speaker 1: people making money talking shit about people at every turn.
Speaker 1: That's what they're doing. This man lost his house, his
Speaker 1: parents lost their house. They're trying to rebuild, and they
Speaker 1: found a way to generate money on TikTok, and we
Speaker 1: got people got a problem with that makes no sense whatsoever.
Speaker 1: Thanks again to my guest Spencer Pratt for taking time out.
Speaker 2: Of his schedule to come on here.
Speaker 1: Clearly he has better things to do with his time,
Speaker 1: but he still made the time to come on the show,
Speaker 1: and I really appreciate it.