WEBVTT - Big Red Rage - Dru Grigson Previews NFL Draft 0:00:02.040 --> 0:00:05.480 Strap on the boots and scrape up the knuckles. Oh ahead, 0:00:05.559 --> 0:00:10.440 he got jacked. This is the big red rain presented 0:00:10.440 --> 0:00:14.720 by Santanford in Gilbert. Harry's Gonna score touchdown Slim to 0:00:14.800 --> 0:00:17.759 the ground by Buddha Baker Like a torpedo, he came 0:00:17.920 --> 0:00:23.079 flying into the backfield. The rage is brought to you 0:00:23.160 --> 0:00:28.960 by satan Ford in Gilbert. Are you Satanford State Farm? 0:00:29.200 --> 0:00:32.159 Talk to an agent today at eight hundred State Farm 0:00:33.000 --> 0:00:37.800 and buy Arizona Cardinals podcasts. Visit Acy Cardinals dot com, 0:00:37.880 --> 0:00:46.640 Slash podcasts, The rod sn rising ar, temperaturizing vision, flurring rage, 0:00:46.800 --> 0:00:50.640 take it over. Here's Paul KELVC. Get the popcorn ready. 0:00:50.880 --> 0:00:53.360 It's gonna be a show, and Ron will flee if 0:00:53.440 --> 0:00:57.920 it doesn't get any better than that. Mars unleash the far. 0:00:59.760 --> 0:01:04.800 The T in T minus stands for two two weeks 0:01:05.080 --> 0:01:10.880 can counting from tonight exactly, the Arizona Cardinals will be 0:01:10.959 --> 0:01:15.160 on the clock looking for a game breaker, a playmaker, 0:01:15.240 --> 0:01:18.120 a difference maker. Will it be in the form of 0:01:18.160 --> 0:01:21.600 a receiver, an edge rusher, maybe a corner, an old lineman, 0:01:21.720 --> 0:01:25.160 a d lineman, even a running back. According to one 0:01:25.280 --> 0:01:28.280 recent mock draft well, the Arizona Cardinals trade up? Might 0:01:28.360 --> 0:01:31.040 they trade down? The good news is Ron Wolfie, if 0:01:31.080 --> 0:01:33.119 you've been scoring at home for the last couple of months, 0:01:33.160 --> 0:01:36.399 there's a mock draft that will match whatever direction or 0:01:36.560 --> 0:01:40.200 narrative you want to see develop. If you can think 0:01:40.240 --> 0:01:41.760 of it, it is out there in a form of 0:01:41.760 --> 0:01:44.240 a mock draft somewhere. Yeah, you know what, Paula, I 0:01:44.400 --> 0:01:46.320 love that. I'm glad you brought that up right there. 0:01:46.400 --> 0:01:50.080 Because of the efficacy and the accuracy of a mock draft. 0:01:50.160 --> 0:01:52.720 Of course we all know. Well, I mean, if you 0:01:52.800 --> 0:01:55.520 get seriously ball, if you get five, if you get 0:01:55.560 --> 0:01:59.160 five in the first round, right, you are really good 0:02:00.040 --> 0:02:03.320 terms of being a great mocker. So why don't we 0:02:03.360 --> 0:02:05.840 do four rounds? Or even better, why don't we do 0:02:05.880 --> 0:02:08.000 the whole draft. That's great. I'm sure it's fun, but 0:02:08.480 --> 0:02:11.480 for me, it's an exercise and futility. Yeah, we saw 0:02:11.520 --> 0:02:13.880 a seven round this week. We saw four round mocks 0:02:13.919 --> 0:02:15.960 with trades. I mean, you know you see it back. 0:02:16.680 --> 0:02:18.639 I said it on the podcast Round willfully, and I'll 0:02:18.639 --> 0:02:21.040 say it again on The Big Red Rage. Brought to 0:02:21.080 --> 0:02:23.639 you by santan Ford and Gilbert. We are santan Ford 0:02:23.680 --> 0:02:25.880 and By the way, speaking of the draft, Drew Grigson 0:02:26.520 --> 0:02:28.320 is our guest tonight, putting them big in a big 0:02:28.360 --> 0:02:31.400 red range with those guns. Are you kidding me, Director 0:02:31.440 --> 0:02:34.160 of playoff Personnel? Are they still twenty inches? That's what 0:02:34.200 --> 0:02:36.480 I wanted to Does he have the twenty inch canids? 0:02:36.919 --> 0:02:40.120 I was, I was harassing you earlier this week telling 0:02:40.120 --> 0:02:42.000 you that I was winning the offseason until I saw 0:02:42.080 --> 0:02:46.600 Drew Grigson and his offseason regimen. Yeah, I'm definitely Paully 0:02:46.680 --> 0:02:49.760 Pencilnaca during interview. You know what's incredible about that, Paully, 0:02:49.840 --> 0:02:53.000 His tricept is bigger than your head. That is what 0:02:53.160 --> 0:02:55.520 is so amazing. Yeah. So anyway, like I said on 0:02:55.520 --> 0:02:58.200 the podcast, um, this year for Lent, I gave up 0:02:58.280 --> 0:03:00.800 chocolate chip cookies and scones. Next year for Lent, I'm 0:03:00.800 --> 0:03:03.600 giving up mock drafts. Okay, So there's the latest on that. 0:03:04.000 --> 0:03:05.640 We do have news of the week, We do have 0:03:05.720 --> 0:03:08.200 news of the day. In fact, you want to start 0:03:08.200 --> 0:03:10.080 with a receiver, you want to start with a quarterback. 0:03:10.520 --> 0:03:13.200 We start with a quarterback and then we'll move on 0:03:13.280 --> 0:03:15.320 from there. As I'm sure you saw some of the 0:03:15.600 --> 0:03:18.280 headlines earlier today. In fact, a lot of what was 0:03:18.360 --> 0:03:21.920 reported today was reported by Albert Brewer of Sports Illustrated 0:03:22.040 --> 0:03:25.920 last month that Kyler Murray and Team Kyler wants a 0:03:26.040 --> 0:03:29.520 new deal. They want it before the draft, and you 0:03:29.560 --> 0:03:33.280 know they view that as a deadline for a new contract. Now, 0:03:33.280 --> 0:03:36.200 whether he is expected to play unless he gets a 0:03:36.240 --> 0:03:38.520 new deal, that's a question out there. And then, of 0:03:38.520 --> 0:03:41.600 course you know that Team Kyler and the agent Eric 0:03:41.600 --> 0:03:45.720 Burkhart pulled the opening proposal off the table. So we'll 0:03:45.720 --> 0:03:48.280 see if there's a deal done by the draft, and 0:03:48.280 --> 0:03:50.720 then we'll see exactly what may or may not develop 0:03:50.760 --> 0:03:53.880 after that. Yeah, Polly, you know what's interesting you bring 0:03:53.920 --> 0:03:56.320 that up because here it is April fourteenth? Is it 0:03:56.400 --> 0:04:00.160 not the fourteenth? Paulli? It is? It is how many 0:04:00.240 --> 0:04:03.760 days before the draft the actual start of the show. 0:04:03.840 --> 0:04:07.360 By saying two weeks exactly? Okay, all right? Do you 0:04:07.400 --> 0:04:09.800 get where I'm getting that is a pressure point, There's 0:04:09.840 --> 0:04:13.200 no doubt about that. Speaking of pressure points, I just 0:04:13.240 --> 0:04:16.159 get this feeling that maybe Kyler Murray's agent may have 0:04:16.320 --> 0:04:20.480 picked up the phone and just called Tom Pellacero and say, hey, 0:04:20.560 --> 0:04:22.760 you know what, honestly, right now, if you want me 0:04:22.839 --> 0:04:26.120 to leak you inside information on this. This is pure 0:04:26.160 --> 0:04:29.600 speculation on my part, PAULI, I have no idea, but 0:04:30.160 --> 0:04:34.839 it seems like it's the same story, just freshened a 0:04:34.880 --> 0:04:36.960 little bit, if you know what I mean, just a 0:04:37.000 --> 0:04:40.119 different insider. He just he makes the rounds, yes, based 0:04:40.120 --> 0:04:42.080 on every couple of weeks or you know, once a 0:04:42.120 --> 0:04:44.479 month at the very least. So okay, there you go, 0:04:44.520 --> 0:04:46.920 and you know what, Look, there are now eight quarterbacks 0:04:47.080 --> 0:04:51.360 making forty million or more in average annual value. Yeah, 0:04:51.360 --> 0:04:54.279 and we've seen the recent signings, you know, Aaron Rodgers 0:04:54.279 --> 0:04:56.960 and Deshaun Watson and Matthew Stafford and now Derek Carr. 0:04:57.000 --> 0:04:59.240 So okay, they're going to see what they can get 0:04:59.279 --> 0:05:02.800 in the marketplace. We get it. AJ Green is back 0:05:02.839 --> 0:05:05.200 in the fold for Kyler Murray. What do you make 0:05:05.200 --> 0:05:07.800 of that? And specifically we'll get into the football and 0:05:07.839 --> 0:05:09.880 the xes and o's and the Cardinals offense a little later. Well, 0:05:10.000 --> 0:05:12.440 what do you think that means for the Cardinals draft? 0:05:12.720 --> 0:05:16.320 Doesn't make a sort of Yeah, doesn't make a difference 0:05:16.360 --> 0:05:18.160 that they have AJ Green and X receiver on the 0:05:18.160 --> 0:05:20.960 outside back. I honestly, Polly, I don't think so. I 0:05:20.960 --> 0:05:23.080 don't think that is a listen, do you love to 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:25.679 have Aj Green? Do you love to have AJ Green 0:05:25.800 --> 0:05:28.760 in the veteran that he is and all of that experience, 0:05:29.120 --> 0:05:33.040 just in case maybe you don't actually have Rondel more improving, 0:05:33.360 --> 0:05:36.520 Just in case, maybe you do draft somebody high in 0:05:36.560 --> 0:05:39.280 the first round, maybe even the second round at fifty five, 0:05:39.720 --> 0:05:42.760 you know, and suddenly they're they're a little slow in 0:05:42.880 --> 0:05:45.240 terms of developing. Do you want a bit of a 0:05:45.320 --> 0:05:48.560 safety net at wide receiver? Man? I think that is 0:05:48.600 --> 0:05:52.000 what this signing is all about with AJ Green for 0:05:52.040 --> 0:05:54.640 the most part, Pauli. So you know, I don't think 0:05:54.640 --> 0:05:57.960 it prohibits here Arizona Cardinals from going forward and drafting 0:05:58.040 --> 0:06:01.760 the best player of ollable at number twenty three, whether 0:06:02.240 --> 0:06:05.799 whether Pauli that is a wide receiver, whether that's an edge, 0:06:05.920 --> 0:06:09.240 whether that's a defensive tackle. Man, there's there's a guy 0:06:09.279 --> 0:06:13.960 that I absolutely love, DeVante Wyatt, the defensive tackle out 0:06:13.960 --> 0:06:16.520 of Georgia. The more and more I watch this guy, 0:06:16.600 --> 0:06:18.919 the more and more I read about this guy, the 0:06:19.000 --> 0:06:22.159 more and more I like. Because you've got two first 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:26.640 round picks inside playing inside linebacker that are still very 0:06:26.760 --> 0:06:29.520 very young. Would it be great to actually keep the 0:06:29.520 --> 0:06:33.679 butt guts, off of that second level, off of Zaban Collins, 0:06:33.800 --> 0:06:36.360 off of Isaiah Simmons. Well, the best way to do 0:06:36.400 --> 0:06:39.359 that is to get a butt in the gap, and 0:06:39.640 --> 0:06:42.279 DeVante Wyatt would be a butt in the gap, and 0:06:42.400 --> 0:06:44.800 you know what, we're going to get into him momentarily, 0:06:44.839 --> 0:06:47.520 but as a setup. Daniel Jeremiah, he was on the 0:06:47.560 --> 0:06:50.919 passpod right, Dave Pass reeling in a big, big guest 0:06:51.000 --> 0:06:53.599 this time of year, and the NFL Network draft expert 0:06:53.680 --> 0:06:56.440 Daniel Jeremiah on the question where does he see the 0:06:56.480 --> 0:06:59.000 Cardinals going with their top pick. Well, I think there's 0:06:59.000 --> 0:07:01.320 so many different ways you can go and where you're picking. 0:07:01.480 --> 0:07:03.680 You're kind of at the mercy of what falls you 0:07:03.800 --> 0:07:05.960 because the drafting go in so many different directions. But 0:07:06.360 --> 0:07:09.360 I still think, you know, firepower on offense. I think 0:07:09.360 --> 0:07:11.480 on the defensive side of the ball, you know, just 0:07:11.520 --> 0:07:15.960 getting younger and more dynamic upfront. Okay, so there you go, 0:07:16.320 --> 0:07:18.720 and look, I think it's a good sign right now 0:07:18.760 --> 0:07:21.760 that even the experts they say, man, the Cardinals could 0:07:21.800 --> 0:07:25.600 go any number of directions. But to your point, could 0:07:25.600 --> 0:07:28.080 they go defense for the third straight year, and could 0:07:28.080 --> 0:07:31.840 they invest a pick in someone that, oh, you know, 0:07:31.960 --> 0:07:34.440 would be a double ding in terms of Isaiah Simmons 0:07:34.480 --> 0:07:37.480 and Zaven Collins and the fact the Arizona Cardinals is 0:07:37.520 --> 0:07:39.360 a defense gave up one hundred and fifty or more 0:07:39.400 --> 0:07:43.880 yards rushing times last year. They're very inconsistent in terms 0:07:43.880 --> 0:07:47.480 of rush defense. So with that in mind, Daniel Jeremiah 0:07:47.520 --> 0:07:49.760 said this, I look at a guy I just kind 0:07:49.760 --> 0:07:52.560 of knowing Steve over the years. There are certain players 0:07:52.560 --> 0:07:55.240 you could see kind of tickling his fancy, And for 0:07:55.280 --> 0:07:57.280 some reason, I think of a guy like Davante Wyatt, 0:07:57.320 --> 0:08:01.320 who's just ultra ultra explosive a defensive tackle from Georgia. 0:08:01.600 --> 0:08:03.400 If somehow he were to be in that mix there, 0:08:03.400 --> 0:08:05.280 I could see that that being somebody he'd really like. 0:08:06.000 --> 0:08:09.160 Paul has had no Seriously, I had no idea that 0:08:09.240 --> 0:08:10.840 he was going to say that. I've been talking about 0:08:10.880 --> 0:08:14.320 Davontay Wyatt for over a week now. I've been talking 0:08:14.360 --> 0:08:18.360 about DeVonta Wyatt, and I've come around from Jordan Davis. Listen, 0:08:18.400 --> 0:08:22.040 I love Jordan Davis. Oh my goodness, are you big 0:08:22.080 --> 0:08:26.760 man running? Paul? I mean, honestly, six six three hunty 0:08:26.760 --> 0:08:29.840 one pounds running a four to seven eight That is unbelievable. 0:08:29.880 --> 0:08:32.480 But you know, I the more and more I read, 0:08:32.679 --> 0:08:34.560 and the more and more I look at some of 0:08:34.600 --> 0:08:37.760 the tape on Devontay Wyatt, man, this is this is 0:08:37.800 --> 0:08:40.000 a guy that it's going to be hard taking him 0:08:40.040 --> 0:08:42.960 off the field. I think Jordan Davis for the most 0:08:43.000 --> 0:08:46.200 part right now is specialty is he's just so big 0:08:46.400 --> 0:08:49.960 and so tough. He's so good against the run. But 0:08:50.320 --> 0:08:52.959 I think Devantay Wyatt is not only good against the run, 0:08:53.040 --> 0:08:56.280 he's also good against the pass. And I think anytime 0:08:56.360 --> 0:08:58.600 you can do that and get a guy that is 0:08:58.640 --> 0:09:02.840 that interior present and to get him to actually bring 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:05.760 a little force inside, now your edge gets a lot better. 0:09:05.880 --> 0:09:09.000 Whomever that may be. Yeah, and Wolf two things, you know, 0:09:09.480 --> 0:09:11.560 everything you said about him is true from what I've read, 0:09:11.640 --> 0:09:14.040 and then I've also read he has the quickest, most 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:17.040 explosive first step of any dag lineman in this draft. 0:09:17.120 --> 0:09:19.720 So you know, there's more than one way to generate pressure, 0:09:19.920 --> 0:09:22.400 as if you explained more than once, and if you 0:09:22.440 --> 0:09:25.360 can get some of that interior pressure, I mean, as 0:09:25.400 --> 0:09:27.760 Kyle Vannabosh said this week on the Red Sea Report, 0:09:28.559 --> 0:09:31.640 quarterbacks absolutely to test the pressure up through the A 0:09:31.800 --> 0:09:34.640 and B gaps. Allah Aaron Donald. Right, So if you 0:09:34.679 --> 0:09:36.960 can get that sort of guy who's disrupted from the 0:09:37.000 --> 0:09:40.319 interior d line, that would obviously be a huge asset 0:09:40.360 --> 0:09:42.280 for that Cardinals front seven. By the way, it's the 0:09:42.360 --> 0:09:47.000 Draft Weekend Country Concert presented by SeatGeek featuring Ryan Hurd, 0:09:47.160 --> 0:09:50.800 Lanco Callista Clark. That is Saturday, April thirtieth, that has 0:09:50.880 --> 0:09:53.120 Draft Weekend on the Great Lawn at State Farm Stadium. 0:09:53.120 --> 0:09:55.960 For tickets and info, go to sportsman Park az dot com. 0:09:55.960 --> 0:09:59.960 That's Sportsman's Park az dot com for the Draft Weekend 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:04.000 Country Concert. Big Red Rage continues with Drew Grigson. Next. 0:10:07.200 --> 0:10:10.760 Where are you guys right now in the draft process? 0:10:10.840 --> 0:10:13.640 Have you already stood on the table, Drew? Have you 0:10:13.720 --> 0:10:16.920 stood on the table and had it out? Have you 0:10:17.000 --> 0:10:20.680 had those meetings yet? The shoeprints are on the table, Wolf, 0:10:20.679 --> 0:10:25.480 they're there. Yeah, You're not on the clock until the 0:10:25.559 --> 0:10:29.319 shoeprints are on the table. Right until there's treadmarks in 0:10:29.360 --> 0:10:33.600 the war room. That was exactly one year ago today 0:10:33.720 --> 0:10:36.839 here on the Big Red Rage, And you know what 0:10:37.280 --> 0:10:39.840 are there treadmarks on the table this year? I honestly 0:10:39.840 --> 0:10:42.079 don't know, because there's one place I cannot go at 0:10:42.080 --> 0:10:44.240 Cardinal's headquarters. And that is the war room, and that 0:10:44.360 --> 0:10:46.520 is why we bring the war room to us every year. 0:10:46.559 --> 0:10:49.200 About this time, that's right, it is time for Drew 0:10:49.240 --> 0:10:52.520 Grigson and his return here on the Big Red Rage, 0:10:52.559 --> 0:10:55.600 the director of Player Personnel. And Drew, you don't look 0:10:55.600 --> 0:11:00.000 too sleep deprived. So going wall so far excellent, so far, absolutely, 0:11:00.240 --> 0:11:02.280 and you're winning the off season. You know, as Wolf said, 0:11:02.320 --> 0:11:04.000 you know, boom, you're you're staying in the weight room. 0:11:04.040 --> 0:11:06.360 You got the workout clause in your in your contracts. 0:11:06.360 --> 0:11:08.880 So things are going well. Early morning, wake up, get that. 0:11:08.880 --> 0:11:10.880 We'll get it in and then get to work. Good. 0:11:10.880 --> 0:11:12.640 That's how we do it. All right, let's get to it. 0:11:12.720 --> 0:11:15.280 Then let's talk about this draft. As always, there's an 0:11:15.280 --> 0:11:18.600 insatiable appetite about the draft. Fans love to talk about it. 0:11:19.200 --> 0:11:22.600 What stands out to you about the twenty twenty two draft, 0:11:22.720 --> 0:11:24.720 or there are particular areas this year that you think 0:11:24.760 --> 0:11:27.920 it will be known for in years to come. It's 0:11:28.160 --> 0:11:30.520 every year changes obviously in terms of depth of position, 0:11:30.720 --> 0:11:33.400 and this year it's deeper at certain spots than it 0:11:33.520 --> 0:11:36.360 was last year. It's a little deeper too, just in 0:11:36.480 --> 0:11:39.319 terms of overall players because of the guys that came 0:11:39.320 --> 0:11:41.600 back from the COVID year. So you know last year, 0:11:41.640 --> 0:11:43.960 the top players, they're going to come out regardless, But 0:11:44.040 --> 0:11:45.480 a lot of those guys that would have been maybe 0:11:45.520 --> 0:11:48.319 late round picks free agents, they stayed in and they 0:11:48.360 --> 0:11:51.160 worked themselves up a handful of rounds. They worked themselves 0:11:51.160 --> 0:11:54.120 in from undrafted free agency into the six and seventh rounds. 0:11:54.120 --> 0:11:56.240 So I think you're going to see more, you know, 0:11:56.480 --> 0:11:58.880 players that that ended up coming back. There'sould be a 0:11:58.880 --> 0:12:00.559 little bit more depth. I think is actually late and 0:12:00.600 --> 0:12:04.439 definitely in free agency. You know, we've heard Daniel Jeremiah 0:12:04.440 --> 0:12:08.160 say repeatedly and most recently on the Pashpod, that there 0:12:08.200 --> 0:12:11.840 are twenty pass rushers in this draft. Now that that 0:12:11.840 --> 0:12:13.599 would be unheard of, wouldn't it be that that it 0:12:13.640 --> 0:12:17.400 would be that deep in edge rushers. It's twenty might 0:12:17.440 --> 0:12:19.960 be a little strong, but there is. You know, actually, 0:12:19.960 --> 0:12:21.600 when I saw that same thing and I went up, 0:12:21.600 --> 0:12:23.400 I looked at our board at one, two, three, four, 0:12:23.440 --> 0:12:27.079 and let's see if he's right. Um, it is strong. 0:12:27.200 --> 0:12:30.800 It is good there, um, And there's there's plenty of 0:12:30.800 --> 0:12:33.440 of diverse body types and skill sets in the group 0:12:33.800 --> 0:12:36.560 from length to you know, guys with power, guys with 0:12:36.600 --> 0:12:38.640 a ton of production, guys with average production but have 0:12:38.760 --> 0:12:41.439 the traits. So it is an interesting group, no doubt. 0:12:41.559 --> 0:12:44.440 So the board is up, board is up, the horizontal 0:12:44.480 --> 0:12:47.559 board is up. So we had all those discussions. Um, 0:12:47.600 --> 0:12:50.280 so it is, it is set, um and then we'll 0:12:50.280 --> 0:12:52.640 sit and uh do the one twenty next week. It's 0:12:52.640 --> 0:12:54.760 going to be over three days. Used to be we 0:12:55.160 --> 0:12:56.720 used to jam it in a one day and then 0:12:56.720 --> 0:12:58.679 we said that's just too much. We we you know it, 0:12:59.160 --> 0:13:01.160 I think it's too much for one day to have 0:13:01.240 --> 0:13:03.840 that kind of information spread over to two days. And 0:13:03.880 --> 0:13:06.520 then always said, let's let's make sure we feel good 0:13:06.520 --> 0:13:08.440 about it and get it. Let's use the time that 0:13:08.480 --> 0:13:10.480 we have here. We have all month pretty much, and 0:13:10.520 --> 0:13:12.000 let's use it over three So we spread it out 0:13:12.000 --> 0:13:14.160 over three days now because a lot of those names 0:13:14.480 --> 0:13:17.520 encapsulate three years of work per player in a lot 0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:20.120 of cases, right, and no question, absolutely, you know, there's 0:13:20.160 --> 0:13:22.120 there's a lot of guys that that you know, with 0:13:22.160 --> 0:13:24.920 the COVID year, maybe guys were injured. Um, I mean 0:13:24.960 --> 0:13:27.040 they should be doctors by now. With there's there's guys 0:13:27.080 --> 0:13:29.520 that they have been seven years and you know, they 0:13:29.520 --> 0:13:32.320 have a lot of experience and uh, which again that 0:13:32.360 --> 0:13:34.760 helps us for the most part, especially if they're coming 0:13:34.800 --> 0:13:37.040 in and we expect them to you know, maybe play 0:13:37.040 --> 0:13:39.080 a little bit earlier. You know. Now the guys that 0:13:39.080 --> 0:13:42.200 are developmental that are seven years in, you have to 0:13:42.240 --> 0:13:44.760 look sit back and say, well, if they're this at 0:13:44.800 --> 0:13:46.840 this point and it's seven years in, how much better 0:13:46.840 --> 0:13:49.280 can they get a little bit more risk there? But um, 0:13:49.600 --> 0:13:51.640 you know the extra year is like I said, no 0:13:51.720 --> 0:13:55.280 question going to help some of those guys. Later, Drew Griggson, 0:13:55.360 --> 0:13:56.960 director of a player of personnel our guests in the 0:13:56.960 --> 0:13:59.280 Big Red Rage. Did you get back to normalcy in 0:13:59.360 --> 0:14:01.920 terms of gathering info this year? I know a year 0:14:01.920 --> 0:14:03.520 ago at this time a lot of it was mainly 0:14:03.600 --> 0:14:06.400 zoom correct one hundred percent zoom. Yeah, nothing, there was, 0:14:06.480 --> 0:14:08.200 there was nothing we can do. At least last year 0:14:08.240 --> 0:14:09.920 we got back to Pro Days. But even Pro Days 0:14:09.960 --> 0:14:12.640 were strange because they only let so many people in 0:14:12.679 --> 0:14:15.280 from your organization, so numbers at pro Days were low, 0:14:15.320 --> 0:14:17.640 and this year it felt like old times. I mean, 0:14:17.679 --> 0:14:19.480 we had you know, as many people as we needed 0:14:19.520 --> 0:14:21.400 at the Pro Days. We were allowed to make school 0:14:21.480 --> 0:14:23.560 visits again, you know, sitting in the rooms with coaches 0:14:23.600 --> 0:14:26.760 and with the liaison, the trainers, so all that information. 0:14:26.760 --> 0:14:29.000 We were able to get that information. Now, last year, 0:14:29.120 --> 0:14:31.720 last couple, it was it was tough, but we have 0:14:31.760 --> 0:14:34.240 a great staff. We have a staff that's incredibly dialed. 0:14:34.240 --> 0:14:37.000 Then we have great relationships across the country and we 0:14:37.040 --> 0:14:39.560 needed those relationships to help us make the right decisions 0:14:39.560 --> 0:14:41.840 on the players that we took last year. This year 0:14:41.880 --> 0:14:44.480 it's again with it being more open. We were able 0:14:44.520 --> 0:14:46.720 to have thirty visits again, which we haven't done in 0:14:46.840 --> 0:14:49.520 you know, we haven't done. We had one thirty visit 0:14:49.960 --> 0:14:51.640 the year that COVID hit and that was it and 0:14:51.680 --> 0:14:53.920 he was out and we didn't That was the last 0:14:53.960 --> 0:14:57.240 thirty visit we had in twenty twenty. And just the 0:14:57.320 --> 0:14:59.680 ability for us to bring these guys back in the building, 0:15:00.240 --> 0:15:01.960 get to know him, shake their hand, take him out 0:15:01.960 --> 0:15:04.680 to dinner, and just get a feel of do we 0:15:04.760 --> 0:15:06.640 want this guy in our building? Do I want to 0:15:06.640 --> 0:15:09.120 hand this guy off to Vance Joseph? Do I feel 0:15:09.120 --> 0:15:11.000 comfortable with that? And then have Vans sit down with 0:15:11.040 --> 0:15:13.000 him and eat dinner with them, and then Cliff and 0:15:13.000 --> 0:15:15.000 and just be able to sit there and drafting and 0:15:15.040 --> 0:15:17.120 say yes, this is a guy, because that's why you're 0:15:17.160 --> 0:15:20.000 doing all that homework, right, You're trying to ascertain you 0:15:20.040 --> 0:15:22.200 can see the player on film, You're trying to ascertain 0:15:22.280 --> 0:15:24.920 what sort of person he is that you're investing end cars. 0:15:24.960 --> 0:15:27.160 So that's a long study and you know, like you said, 0:15:27.320 --> 0:15:29.440 sometimes three years and you're looking at the tape, you're 0:15:29.440 --> 0:15:31.480 looking at the personality, You're looking at the ability to learn. 0:15:31.560 --> 0:15:33.920 Does the guy love the game? Does he what do 0:15:33.960 --> 0:15:35.760 his work habits? Like? What is his worth? Like all 0:15:35.800 --> 0:15:39.720 that stuff. Every player is going to have some risk 0:15:39.920 --> 0:15:43.720 no matter what. And if that risk comes in injuries 0:15:43.760 --> 0:15:47.400 again and again, his ability to our inability to learn, 0:15:47.680 --> 0:15:49.480 or maybe it's his production. All of them have risk. 0:15:49.560 --> 0:15:51.560 What you try to do with all this information, get 0:15:51.560 --> 0:15:53.560 as much of it as possible and eliminate as much 0:15:53.600 --> 0:15:55.680 of the risk as he possibly can, you know, because 0:15:55.880 --> 0:15:58.120 it's I always tell the guys, like shooting craps, there's 0:15:58.160 --> 0:16:01.080 some bets that are really really good or or more conservative. 0:16:01.320 --> 0:16:04.280 Some bets are you know, they're high risk, but they 0:16:04.280 --> 0:16:06.360 pay off a lot. So what can we do with 0:16:06.400 --> 0:16:08.320 all the information we have to eliminate as much of 0:16:08.320 --> 0:16:11.480 the risk as possible before we take that player. Drew Griggson, 0:16:11.520 --> 0:16:14.200 director a player personnel here on the Big Red Rage. 0:16:14.200 --> 0:16:16.240 All right, so you look at all these mock drafts 0:16:16.400 --> 0:16:19.760 and you do I don't know, okay, all right at 0:16:19.760 --> 0:16:22.520 this point at this point, and you're right, I do, yeah, 0:16:22.720 --> 0:16:24.360 And we like to have fun with it. But there 0:16:24.440 --> 0:16:26.200 is one thing I'm trying to glean from these, and 0:16:26.200 --> 0:16:28.240 it's the following. And tell me if there's any any 0:16:28.280 --> 0:16:31.280 merit to this. Sure, how many quarterbacks are going before 0:16:31.280 --> 0:16:33.680 the Cardinals pick at number twenty three? I hope eight, 0:16:34.600 --> 0:16:38.320 let's help twenty two exactly. That's because to me, that 0:16:38.440 --> 0:16:41.040 QB question is a big question as it pertains to 0:16:41.080 --> 0:16:43.680 the Cardinals at twenty three, because it dictates how many 0:16:43.720 --> 0:16:46.400 position players will be pushed down. Absolutely. Yes, So what's 0:16:46.440 --> 0:16:48.760 your gut feel? Do you have one? I have a 0:16:48.800 --> 0:16:52.040 gut feel. My gut feel is that there that there's 0:16:52.040 --> 0:16:54.600 gonna be a few taken before a pick because of 0:16:54.640 --> 0:16:56.480 the supply and demand, because of the need. Because if 0:16:56.480 --> 0:16:59.600 you don't have one, you don't have anything. And regardless 0:16:59.600 --> 0:17:01.520 of how wrong in the classes they're they're gonna go. 0:17:02.240 --> 0:17:04.560 You know that. So is it as strong of a 0:17:04.600 --> 0:17:07.280 classes i've seen the past. No, it's not. But that 0:17:07.320 --> 0:17:09.440 doesn't mean that you know that there aren't gonna be 0:17:09.480 --> 0:17:11.880 guys that are gonna come in, get drafted, be giving 0:17:11.880 --> 0:17:14.479 the keys to the organization and given their shot. You know. 0:17:14.600 --> 0:17:17.680 So I've seen some reputable guys say zero. I've seen 0:17:17.760 --> 0:17:20.520 some say five quarterbacks for the Cardinals. So you know, 0:17:20.680 --> 0:17:22.720 to me, that's been a big determining factor as to 0:17:22.760 --> 0:17:26.359 who's on the board. And as for number twenty three itself, 0:17:26.680 --> 0:17:28.919 what's your confidence level there's going to be an elite 0:17:28.920 --> 0:17:31.480 talent available by the time the Cardinals pick. It's a 0:17:31.480 --> 0:17:33.240 good spot to pick. And I'll tell you why, because 0:17:33.320 --> 0:17:35.600 it's almost like I always talk about the second round, 0:17:35.640 --> 0:17:38.080 because when all of the sexy picks go, when all 0:17:38.080 --> 0:17:40.119 the heightweight, speed, and all the flash goes, and all 0:17:40.119 --> 0:17:42.920 the risky guys go, sometimes there's just that guy that's 0:17:42.960 --> 0:17:45.240 sitting there that is just a good football player that 0:17:45.320 --> 0:17:47.400 loves the game. Maybe his arms are a little short, 0:17:47.400 --> 0:17:49.520 maybe he didn't run as fast, but he's got ten 0:17:49.560 --> 0:17:53.520 sacks and twenty tackle for loss, and he again loves 0:17:53.560 --> 0:17:55.280 the game and he's just a good football And you're 0:17:55.280 --> 0:17:57.720 getting a good starter that's gonna play for he's gonna 0:17:57.720 --> 0:18:00.600 get a second contract. So there's I think where we're picking. 0:18:00.640 --> 0:18:03.199 Here's actually a little less risk because all that stuff 0:18:03.520 --> 0:18:05.840 starts to sort itself out. You know, again, all the 0:18:05.880 --> 0:18:08.199 combine guys, all the guys you have questions about, and 0:18:08.200 --> 0:18:09.880 then you just sitting there and just go boom, that's 0:18:09.920 --> 0:18:12.000 the guy right there. And again that's what the one 0:18:12.040 --> 0:18:14.360 twenty conversation is all about. And a lot of those 0:18:14.440 --> 0:18:18.160 mock drafts have either receiver or edge rusher most typically 0:18:18.200 --> 0:18:20.840 associated with the Cardinals speaking a receiver as a director 0:18:20.880 --> 0:18:23.000 of player personnel, give us a word in Aj Green 0:18:23.240 --> 0:18:25.080 back on board with a one year deal. I think 0:18:25.119 --> 0:18:27.520 the way that we've put the team back together, I like, 0:18:27.720 --> 0:18:30.720 we have an eleven win team, and we keep resigning 0:18:30.760 --> 0:18:32.560 the guys that helped us get eleven wins and the 0:18:32.640 --> 0:18:34.960 guys that are part of the culture that helped change 0:18:35.000 --> 0:18:37.000 the culture from when we were a three win team 0:18:37.000 --> 0:18:38.720 and had the first pick in the draft, and keep 0:18:38.760 --> 0:18:41.520 those guys around. You know, AJ has been around the block. 0:18:41.600 --> 0:18:44.919 He is a consummate pro. He's a position of need, 0:18:44.960 --> 0:18:47.000 you know, especially being an outside guy, being an X 0:18:47.280 --> 0:18:49.399 a guy that we wanted to bring back because of that, 0:18:49.600 --> 0:18:51.399 and he knows what we're all about. He knows what 0:18:51.440 --> 0:18:54.280 it's like working with Sean Jefferson now so excited to 0:18:54.280 --> 0:18:58.119 have him back and again a great pro and we 0:18:58.160 --> 0:19:00.480 know exactly what we're getting with AJ. So, as general 0:19:00.480 --> 0:19:04.520 manager Steve Kim has never drafted a receiver in Round one? 0:19:04.800 --> 0:19:06.879 Is that by the sign? Has that been just because 0:19:06.960 --> 0:19:09.359 of the board. Is there any reason that pattern may 0:19:09.440 --> 0:19:12.040