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Speaker 2: on Game Presents Network. Wow, Let's let's do that again, mister,

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Speaker 2: Isaac Loehingkron, breaking news. Let's get a breaking news perfect,

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Speaker 2: Let's do it. Let's do this the right way, because

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Speaker 2: this is pretty big for this week of football games.

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Speaker 2: Here we go, Isaac lower gone with what's taking place

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Speaker 2: in Jacksonville.

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Speaker 3: Breaking news from Fox.

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Speaker 4: Sports, NFL media just reporting Jacksonville Jaguars quarterback Trevor Lawrence

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Speaker 4: has cleared concussion protocol and will travel to Tampa for

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Speaker 4: tomorrow's huge game. Against the Buccaneers.

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Speaker 1: How about that, Thank you sir.

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Speaker 2: And listen, everybody's been talking about Jacksonville possibly succumbing, and

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Speaker 2: you said this in our one plex, a three way

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Speaker 2: tie in terms of record in that AFC South.

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Speaker 1: You got the Colts with Minchew Mania in full, full,

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Speaker 1: full throttle, and.

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Speaker 2: You got the Texans who are hoping to survive, to

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Speaker 2: get C. J. Stroud back and finish out strong. I

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Speaker 2: guess you know, concussions actually kind of react and kind

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Speaker 2: of hell up based upon where your team is and

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Speaker 2: what can possibly happen if you don't play.

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Speaker 1: Now, that could just be me talking, but y'all talk

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Speaker 1: to me. He has to play. We knew he wasn't

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Speaker 1: missing this game, Yo. He has to play.

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Speaker 5: You're talking about a team that was just a few

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Speaker 5: weeks ago, just a few weeks ago, had the opportunity

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Speaker 5: to be the number one seed in the AFC. Then

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Speaker 5: they lay an egg against the Cincinnati Bengals, and now

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Speaker 5: they're looking at they're in a position to where.

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Speaker 1: They mightn't even make the playoffs.

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Speaker 5: So has to get out there and play. And I

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Speaker 5: stop I said it last week. A week before that,

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Speaker 5: the Jacksonville Jaguars and the Detroit Lions. It's fools goal.

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Speaker 5: I'm telling you. I'm telling you cannot trust them. And

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Speaker 5: Trevor Lawns really hasn't been playing that well, you know,

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Speaker 5: over the past month and a half. So let's just,

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Speaker 5: you know, get that out of the way, and defensively,

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Speaker 5: when you can give up thirty plus points to a

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Speaker 5: Joe Burrowles's Cincinnati Bengal team, questions need to be answered.

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Speaker 5: And I just think right now for the Jacksonville Jaguise,

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Speaker 5: they looking at themselves like, wait a minute.

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Speaker 1: We're a three way time.

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Speaker 5: Just two weeks ago, we could have been the number

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Speaker 5: one seed in the AFC. So we knew Trevor Lawns

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Speaker 5: was gonna play in this game. He has to. And

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna tell you this, I don't even think that

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Speaker 5: they will travel down to Tampa Bay and win this

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Speaker 1: I really don't. They're playing pretty well in Testaba.

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Speaker 5: I can't even believe I'm saying this, but it's a

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Speaker 5: great possibility that Baker Mayfield may put together back to

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Speaker 5: great game like he played last week and the tam

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Speaker 5: Bay Bucket this They're not playing bad football.

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Speaker 1: And the NFC South is up for grabs.

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Speaker 5: So if they were, if the Tampa bay Is win

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Speaker 5: this game tomorrow, they will be no, they will be

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Speaker 5: eight and seven. So the NFC side was up for grabs.

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Speaker 5: They know what they gotta do. Jacksonville has all the

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Speaker 5: pressure on them. Trust me, Trevor Lawrence is probably still concussed,

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Speaker 5: but they're putting them over the football field. Said listen, man,

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Speaker 5: we need you to go out there and win us

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Speaker 5: a football game. We know you're not healthy, but you're

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Speaker 5: the best chance we got to win this game tomorrow.

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Speaker 6: Man, it's like number one a PX. You remember at

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Speaker 6: the start of the season, you said the Bears was

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Speaker 5: So that's all alone said that the Saints was gonna

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Speaker 5: go to You're gonna.

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Speaker 1: Put it on me. See that's the six.

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Speaker 2: Let me explain to y'all, locker room one on one, y'all,

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Speaker 2: one for vets. If somebody comes at you and says

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Speaker 1: So you won't put that. I heard say New Orleans.

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Speaker 1: I said New Orleans. I was wrong. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if I was wrong. As the Chicago Bears, though.

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Speaker 6: Now you for for Jacksonville, it's a it's a must win,

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Speaker 6: and they're going to play a Tampa Bay Buccaneer team

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Speaker 6: who was playing extremely well, who has a chance to

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Speaker 6: win the division. Even though it's the worst division of football.

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Speaker 6: You win your division, you're getting the playoffs. And Baker

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Speaker 6: Mayfield has reinvented himself. He's playing really good football. So

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Speaker 6: it's not gonna be an easy task for the jackson

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Speaker 6: If Trevor Lawrence isn't under center, many would assume that

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Speaker 6: Jacksonville Jaguars to make it to the playoffs, they needed

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Speaker 6: Trevor Lawrence under center. And you know, you you hate

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Speaker 6: to say this, but I don't think anybody within that

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Speaker 6: in general, expected Trevor Lawrence not to play. Everybody expected

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Speaker 6: him to be under center come this weekend, and that's

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Speaker 6: what's gonna happen, and they need them.

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Speaker 1: Because this is exactly what Plexico just said. A few

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Speaker 1: weeks ago.

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Speaker 6: We literally were talking about, Man, could the Jaguars get

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Speaker 6: the number one seed?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 6: The Jaguars may not make the playoffs if they can't

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Speaker 6: get their act together. And so defensively, they've been pretty

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Speaker 6: good all year and they kind of falling off lately. Offensively,

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Speaker 6: Trevor Lawrence has played well and he's kind of fallen

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Speaker 6: off lately, and so they have to figure out why.

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Speaker 6: There's still three weeks left and so they can turn

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Speaker 6: it around, but it will start this weekend. But yeah,

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Speaker 6: we all expected Trevor Lawrence to play because without him,

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Speaker 6: you feel as if the Jacksonville Jaguars really have no chance.

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Speaker 2: Well, I wonder, you know, the first thing that came

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Speaker 2: to mind to me was who who are? Who are

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Speaker 2: the hottest teams in that AFC South And everyone has

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Speaker 2: been leaning on the Jaguars and they lean on calling,

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Speaker 2: you know, Prince the Prince of the game. As the

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Speaker 2: reason why I'm with you, plex he hasn't played well

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Speaker 1: But here's what, here's what I'm thinking c J.

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Speaker 2: Stroud was about to replace Trevor Lawrence for for dopest quarterback,

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Speaker 2: dops young quarterback dope is young talent dope, dope dope

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Speaker 2: coming into the game and is in the same division.

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Speaker 2: He's still may and he's out and he's been out

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Speaker 2: and with what and with what injury the same as

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Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 1: So now you got one.

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Speaker 2: That that could possibly lose that crown of being the

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Speaker 2: he's sitting out, And it makes me wonder, are we

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Speaker 2: going to judge as the media or the fans, are

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Speaker 1: Stroud Like, Oh, CJ.

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Speaker 2: Stroud second week in a row, he's in concussion protocol,

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Speaker 2: he's not going to play. Oh, but Trevor Lawrence comes

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Speaker 2: back and he plays, He clears concussion protocol.

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Speaker 1: He plays.

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Speaker 2: Now while people may be sitting there like, ah, that's outrageous,

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Speaker 2: that makes no sense.

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Speaker 1: Da da da, that's crazy. That's how sports work.

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Speaker 2: We judge guys on who runs and who doesn't run

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Speaker 2: at combines, who works out who doesn't work out. At combines,

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Speaker 2: we judge guys who play hurt and guys versus who

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Speaker 2: don't play hurt. We don't know the level of what

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Speaker 2: people are injured and what they're dealing with, But nonetheless,

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Speaker 2: the public in general tends to play side on looking

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Speaker 2: at the guy who pushes through and presses through and

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Speaker 2: goes out there and plays versus the guy who does it.

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Speaker 2: So Trevor Lawrence comes back and he has a great game,

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Speaker 2: and they play well against Tampa, and they beat Tampa,

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Speaker 2: and they're heading towards possibly maintaining that number one spot

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Speaker 2: because they're not going to lose to Carolina.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, that's just not going They're going to mold

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Speaker 1: Carolina down.

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Speaker 2: That sets the stage for a serious, serious, last game

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Speaker 2: of the season against one of the most dangerous average

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Speaker 2: which is the Tennessee Tennessee Titans. To the Titans, they

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Speaker 2: are average at best, but they are the best average

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Speaker 2: at best team in the National Football League and can

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Speaker 2: and will beat any team in the National Football League.

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Speaker 1: So this makes it a very tight race.

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Speaker 2: This is a very tight situation if you're talking about

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Speaker 2: what it looks like for now.

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Speaker 1: I believe they own.

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Speaker 2: The tiebreaker against the Colts, but I'm not sure how

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Speaker 2: I'm not even sure how it all plays out. I

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Speaker 2: just know for what it's worth, Jacksonville needs to win

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Speaker 5: Tomorrow's kind of iffy, and we know how they these

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Speaker 5: the divisional games go, you know, last game of the season,

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Speaker 5: and they could both of these teams, Jacksonville and Tennessee

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Speaker 5: and both have an even record, and the winner of

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Speaker 5: that game could you know, be the visional winner to

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Speaker 5: get into the playoffs. So listen, just like you said,

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Speaker 5: it's a mustling for jackson villemorrow. But some just telling me, man,

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Speaker 5: I don't think they beat Mike Williams and his bunch

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Speaker 5: to maw, I really don't. I think I think Tampa

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Speaker 5: Bay is ascending right now. I'm not saying they're playing

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Speaker 5: great football, but Baker Mayfield is playing well enough and

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Speaker 5: making good decisions to work to the point to where

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Speaker 5: they have found something in this offense that they can

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, we'll see what happens.

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Speaker 2: But it definitely is a movie that is taking place

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Speaker 2: right now, right here, for this Jacksonville Jaguars team and

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Speaker 2: for the entire National Football League. A lot of storylines

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Speaker 10: It's cuffs the legend, I'm here. Everything, everything's going. Let's

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Speaker 5: Oh you know what the call of for Dolvenham's head

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Speaker 1: Bang? Bang?

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Speaker 11: Well, you know, everybody Christmas in the Christmas spirit right now,

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Speaker 11: It's very simple, man, d Low gotta go Danel, who

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Speaker 11: I think the jig is hovering on d Lo.

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Speaker 11: He they just announced today that he's getting bent, so

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Speaker 11: Like we see him with his hands in his pockets

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Speaker 11: Like he's above he's in over his head, man, And

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Speaker 11: After Las Vegas the n Season Tournament championship, I was

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Speaker 1: So gotta go, Hey, TJ, I gotta be honest with you, man.

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Speaker 6: He's so he's so inconsistent and that, and that's the thing.

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Speaker 6: Could it be a combination of all those things, or

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Speaker 6: is it Darvin Ham just he can't coach this group

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Speaker 11: I think he is not the coach for this particular unit.

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Speaker 11: And what I mean by that is at this stage

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Speaker 11: what's happening from what I hear, they do a lot

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Speaker 11: Look, even if the Lakers go out here and get

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Speaker 11: If they lose to Night, we already know the pressure

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Speaker 1: Y'all.

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Speaker 11: Remember when David Black was let go with the Calves

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Speaker 11: Whatever they tell Darvin to do, he's going to do.

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Speaker 1: He's rotting.

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Speaker 11: He's rotting on the bench right now, and you.

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Speaker 6: Need I don't understand why he is a player. I

438
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Speaker 6: don't understand it.

439
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Speaker 1: Can I can? I just add this to the conversation.

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Speaker 1: Y'all do know this is a nationally syndicated radio show.

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Speaker 2: This is not an LA based local show that just

442
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,399
Speaker 2: talks about the Lakers. I just thought I'd add that

443
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Speaker 2: into the conversation here because I mean, y'all, y'all could

444
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Speaker 2: like I just feel like y'all could take.

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Speaker 1: The I got Lakers. I got something for him. I

446
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:42,679
Speaker 1: got like a two hour long show some Lakers. What

447
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Speaker 1: the Lakers are? Cuffs?

448
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Speaker 6: Let me ask you this, what did you make a

449
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Speaker 6: John Moran coming back after twenty five game suspension and

450
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Speaker 6: doing he did in Game one?

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Speaker 1: What you make it out?

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Speaker 11: I'm glad you said that. Thirty four point sis and

453
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Speaker 11: the game winner on the road. The most impressive part

454
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Speaker 11: about John morant come back, his return after twenty five

455
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Speaker 11: games is he hasn't played a basketball game in over

456
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Speaker 11: eight months, right, a professional basketball game. We're not talking

457
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Speaker 11: about lifetime fitness. We're not talking about he had played

458
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Speaker 11: front a NBA game in over eight months. And to

459
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Speaker 11: come back and do that, y'all pro athlete, Do y'all

460
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Speaker 11: understand how hard it is to do.

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Speaker 1: This kid absolutely.

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Speaker 5: Having these days and you know what I think, And listen,

463
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Speaker 5: and I'm gonna tell you what. I'm gonna tell you

464
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Speaker 5: what else is hard to do, but the big man

465
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Speaker 5: is making it look very easy.

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Speaker 1: Joe l and b oh yeah.

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Speaker 5: I mean this man is on the path to do

468
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Speaker 5: something so special that nobody else in NBA history has

469
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Speaker 5: ever done. Just another He turned his ankle last tight

470
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Speaker 5: and still dropped a thirty one piece.

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Speaker 11: I'm gonna tell you what. I watched that game last

472
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Speaker 11: night and I was like, yo, I had an epiphany watching.

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Speaker 11: I say, yo, he is. He is the most skilled

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Speaker 11: scorer in the NBA. Like he can score from a

475
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Speaker 11: vast array away step back. You see a seven foot

476
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Speaker 11: guy that's three hundred plus founds shoot step back jumpers.

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Speaker 11: But I will say my only concern with Joel is

478
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Speaker 11: I don't believe anything he does anymore. He can put

479
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Speaker 11: up all these guardy stats. I want to see him

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Speaker 11: get to the finals.

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Speaker 1: Man. Listen, but okay, let me correct you.

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Speaker 5: Now you can agree with me and say that, say

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Speaker 5: that he doesn't really have the.

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Speaker 1: Surrounding pieces around him.

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Speaker 5: Toby's had thirty last night and Terx Mansley had thirty

486
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Speaker 5: three last night. What I'm saying is he is one

487
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Speaker 5: or two pieces of ways. He is one or two

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Speaker 5: pieces away to be able to compete for a world championship.

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Speaker 1: That is how dominant Joe lmb is.

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Speaker 11: Kyrie's Maxie is going to be an All Star this year,

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Speaker 11: So you have a star right now. Was one of

492
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Speaker 11: the best combo guards in the league. To Bias Harris, Tobios,

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Speaker 11: Harris has showed up this year. You had Patrick Beverley,

494
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Speaker 11: You got Pat Beverley moving the puppies. Man like he

495
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Speaker 11: has enough on his team. I don't want any more

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Speaker 11: excuses for Joel. We got to stop making excuse for

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Speaker 11: this guy. Come on, that should be the shock. He

498
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Speaker 11: should be the shock of this era right now.

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Speaker 2: He is.

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Speaker 5: I mean, he is basically what Shaq was, you know,

501
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Speaker 5: twenty years ago. But when you say he has the pieces,

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Speaker 5: they are still staring in the faces of the Boston

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Speaker 5: Celts in the Milwaukee Bucks. And when you're talking about

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Speaker 5: a team collectively, they don't have what Milwaukee has. They

505
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Speaker 5: don't have what Boston has. Those are the top three

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Speaker 5: teams in the East. But when we sit here and

507
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Speaker 5: say can they win the East? I don't think that

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Speaker 5: they can beat the Milwaukee Bucks in the seven games.

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Speaker 11: I would disagree Black, because if you really break down

510
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Speaker 11: the start of the five and the top seven of

511
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Speaker 11: guys on each team, Boston is not deep. Boston's bench

512
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Speaker 11: is suspect. They only have Peyton Prince right now and

513
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 11: Sam Hauser. They're not deep. Derek White starts now. You

514
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 11: got the Miami Heat, they had Bam and Jimmy Tyler,

515
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,639
Speaker 11: hero Duncan Robinson stepping up. These teams are not stacked

516
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Speaker 11: like you think they are. And my point is Joe

517
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,680
Speaker 11: l is the most dominant player in any of those series.

518
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 11: He's the best player on the floor. There's no more excuses.

519
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 11: Get to the finals. Get to the finals.

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, how did you feel about

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Speaker 2: how did you feel about my man in Milwaukee and

522
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Speaker 2: how he reacted to not getting his basketball. I mean,

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Speaker 2: since we're talking about the top teams and all this stuff,

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Speaker 2: I mean, he wanted that ball. My man did what

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00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 2: he needed to do. Give me man, And did he

526
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Speaker 2: ever get the real game ball?

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Speaker 11: By the way, yeah, I'm hearing that he didn't get

528
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Speaker 11: the game ball. He didn't get it funnier. That's what

529
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 11: made it even funnier. I started laughing right there because

530
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 11: I thought he was going to say something about the

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Speaker 11: Shack and all stranglers Draymond Green.

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Speaker 1: That's why started, Well, we I mean, we're gonna get there.

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Speaker 2: We definitely are going to get the Draymond because you know,

534
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Speaker 2: we haven't talked about it since the show.

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Speaker 11: So John's kind of overreacted, man. And I was laughing

536
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 11: at it because I thought Jannis was like the Golden

537
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 11: Boy at the NBA, like he's starting to really wild

538
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 11: out lately. And I was very They.

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Speaker 1: Walked off the court, though the Pacers walked off the

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Speaker 1: court after the ball.

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Speaker 11: The Pacers. I will say this, Rick Carlile, he was

542
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 11: petty at the press conference. Tarry's Halliburton Mahmie Lloyd Peers,

543
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 11: assistant coach for the Pacers. They were all petty in

544
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Speaker 11: this situation. I just want to see this playoff matchup

545
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 11: now because we have a backstory now. I want to

546
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Speaker 11: see these two teams faced off in the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: Y'all think y'all think he's gonna take the basketball every

548
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Speaker 2: single game if they end up playing in the playoffs.

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Speaker 5: Hey, they gave him a basketball off the rack that

550
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Speaker 5: was already in the locker room.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, he didn't take this ball though, yo Joanna's got

552
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Speaker 11: to the podium. He was like, yo, let the didn't

553
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 11: quite feel the same. It wasn't like the same basketball. Yeah,

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00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 11: they got that from the equipment room.

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Speaker 2: Listen, I got I gotta follow I gotta follow up

556
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Speaker 2: with this one. I gotta follow up. Since you called

557
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 2: out the strangler, what was your take on on UH?

558
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 1: On our boy choking people?

559
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 2: And now where do where do we go with everything

560
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 2: that that has been happening in UH the Golden State.

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Speaker 6: Man that Draymond play man ain't tripping?

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Speaker 11: Letting go Raymond, I consider rand of mind. I spoke

563
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 11: to him briefly after he got suspended man, just to

564
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 11: check on a mental health wise, because these guys are

565
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 11: under that microscope. Whether they are guilty or they're or not,

566
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Speaker 11: they are under a microscope. So imagine how many people

567
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 11: are talking about you every day. They could do something

568
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 11: to your psyche. But to answer the question, I think

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Speaker 11: Draymond he needs to see the team chaplain bro Like,

570
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 11: he need to sit down and just reevaluate because we're

571
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 11: seeing this happen so many times. I think what's happened

572
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 11: in LeVar and plaques and t J. Draymond is frustrated

573
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 11: because he can't impact the game the same way he

574
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 11: once did. So what's happening is, you know those old

575
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 11: guys at the court man with the sweaty back to

576
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 11: no shirt off playing back in the day outside, They're.

577
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 1: Gonna they're gonna drab the bottom of your shorts.

578
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:20,959
Speaker 2: They're gonna tug you when you try to jump, like

579
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 2: they're gonna hit you with that sharp part of their elbow.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, Draymond is days come.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 11: I think I think Dre is starting to turn into

583
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 11: like the modern day like Rick Mahorn, you know. And

584
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 11: I don't think Dre is washed, but he's he's starting

585
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 11: to approach that medium wash.

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Speaker 1: Well he said medium wash, not heavy rents. He ain't

587
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Speaker 1: gonna have heavy wrints mode.

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Speaker 11: I'm gonna keep it real. I'm gonna keep it real.

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00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 11: Final final thing about Draymond. I think everybody on the

590
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 11: Warriors team, the whole coaching staff, the front office. I

591
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 11: think everybody in the building is actually scared of Draymond.

592
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Speaker 11: And you Haslam said, you Donni's Haslam said, He's only

593
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 11: doing this to guys. He know he can do this.

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Speaker 1: To like.

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00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 11: I don't think he would do this to certain guys.

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00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 11: That's why I said, I think everybody's scared of him.

597
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 11: The Warriors front off of Steve Kerr. Everybody in the building.

598
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 11: Bob Myers left. You talk about Bob Myers left. He

599
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 11: got tired of this stuff.

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00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 1: He left. He's now Wes Straightmon. Hey, what's his nickname?

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Speaker 6: The sagon off Wholer many man.

602
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 1: That's Cuffs the Legend. Make sure y'all check him out.

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00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 2: He's got a YouTube show type in Cuffs the Legend,

604
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 2: some dude show, all right. He also has his podcast

605
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 2: on up on Game Presents, up on Game Network.

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00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,479
Speaker 1: Make sure you check him out. Bro, you are the

607
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: best bet. You are funny hell, I appreciate y'all.

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Speaker 11: Happy holidays, many cliffs. I see you, James Harden right now,

609
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 11: I see y'all all.

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Speaker 5: We'd have you all, baby, indeed, indeed, all right, let's

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Speaker 5: get an update.

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Speaker 1: From our man.

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Speaker 2: I lo the last one before we let you go

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Speaker 2: and enjoy your Christmas and holiday time as well.

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Speaker 1: So what you got for his boss?

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Speaker 4: What I got is I'm not scared to dream on

617
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 4: anyway in the NFL, NFL media, NFL media, just so

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00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 4: that's what it was. NFL media reported a short time

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Speaker 4: ago the Jacksonville Jaguars quarterback Trevor Lawrence has cleared concussion protocol.

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Speaker 4: He will travel to Tampa for tomorrow's huge game against

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Speaker 4: the Buccaneers. Jacksonville eight and six technically in first place

622
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 4: right now in the AFC South, over the Colts and

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Speaker 4: Texans by a tiebreaker. The New England Patriots just downgraded

624
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Speaker 4: offensive lineman Connor McDermott and tight end Hunter Henry Too

625
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:48,719
Speaker 4: out for tomorrow's game at Denver. The Chicago Tribune reports

626
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 4: the Bears signing placekicker Cairo Santos to a four year,

627
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:56,959
Speaker 4: sixteen million dollar extension through twenty twenty seven. One NBA

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Speaker 4: game going on right now. They've just gone to halftime

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Speaker 4: at Adison Square Garden, the Milwaukee Bucks leading the New

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Speaker 4: York Knicks.

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Speaker 7: Sixty two to fifty four.

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Speaker 4: We also have two college football bowl games going on

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Speaker 4: right now, first of all at the Birmingham Bowl there

634
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 4: at halftime with Duke leading Troy fourteen to nothing late

635
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Speaker 4: in the second quarter. At the Camellia Bowl in Montgomery, Alabama,

636
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Speaker 4: Northern Illinois of twenty one to ten over Arkansas State,

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00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 4: finally fellas, we have news from the world of fishing. Oh,

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Speaker 4: a fisherman, a fisherman in Florida caught a fifty pound

639
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Speaker 4: tarpin and is now wanted by.

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Speaker 1: Police for it.

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Speaker 4: The reason is he caught it out of a tank

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Speaker 4: at a bass pro shop store. What in Fort Myers, Florida.

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Speaker 4: He walked into the store with a big old net,

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Speaker 4: took the fifty pound tarpin out of the tank and

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Speaker 4: walked out, and he's now wanted by the cops.

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Speaker 1: Back to you, I.

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Speaker 2: Arrest all the people who was working that day, for real,

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Speaker 2: I don't walk out with a fifty Well listen, you

649
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 2: are willing to go in there and do that, man,

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Speaker 2: let him take it.

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Speaker 1: It ain't your story. You can man the way people

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Speaker 1: grow another fish, grow another list Yeah.

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Speaker 5: So I had the opportunity to go on a fishing

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Speaker 5: trip with Tom Calichio. Shout out to Tom top Chef.

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Speaker 5: He had this show call I believe it's called Off

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Speaker 5: the Hook. You can google it on YouTube. Me and

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Speaker 5: him went fishing on a probably a twenty foot bass

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Speaker 5: boat in the Everglades.

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Speaker 1: That's small. It took us two hours. It took us

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Speaker 1: two hours.

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Speaker 5: To get from the marina to the Lost Miss River

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Speaker 5: in the Everglades. We hooked probably a six seven foot

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Speaker 5: tarping on the side of the boat. I didn't notice,

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Speaker 5: but it is illegal to take a tarping out of

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Speaker 5: the water.

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Speaker 1: It is illegal to take a tarping out of the water.

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Speaker 5: And we just tried to pull the tarping up to

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Speaker 5: the boat take some pictures of it because you can't

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Speaker 5: take it out of the water. And the tarpa was

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Speaker 5: so strong. I walked the tarping around the boat like

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Speaker 5: four or five times. In the tarpa snapped my reeling

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Speaker 5: half so.

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Speaker 2: That tarp and still got a hook in his mouth

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Speaker 2: to this day. And you know what they called. They

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Speaker 2: called our God. I forget our God's name, but they called.

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Speaker 2: And everybody was complaining when they saw the show, like

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Speaker 2: how could you guys do that left the hook in

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Speaker 2: the fish's mouth?

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Speaker 1: Yea trip And they were like coming after us for that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And it was like, we didn't do it on purpose.

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Speaker 1: The tarping was so strong that he snapped my line

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Speaker 1: in half. But it is illegal to take a tarping

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Speaker 1: out of the water.

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Speaker 2: And now I want to know, if that's illegal, then

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Speaker 2: how did they get that Tarpain in bast pro shot.

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Speaker 2: That's just me thinking out loud though. Hey, listen, we're

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Speaker 2: gonna take a quick break. We're gonna finish up the

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Speaker 2: show with Bengals taking on the Steelers.

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Speaker 5: T J.

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Speaker 2: Richman's out of Bengal, Yeah, the Plexico Bird Steeler. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna get their opinions on that. On the other

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Speaker 2: side of this break, you're listening to Up on Game,

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Speaker 2: It's TJ. Hushman's out as Plexico Burrs, LeVar Arrington. If

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Speaker 2: absolutely wish you guys the most amazing and outstanding holiday season.

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Speaker 2: on Game, Fellas. Before we close it out, had to

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Speaker 2: do this, I mean say the best for last of course,

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Speaker 2: you got TJ. Hushman's out as Bengals versus Plexico burs

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Speaker 2: as Steelers. Both teams have been struggling, both teams have

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Speaker 2: used backup quarterbacks. It seems as though, uh, the Pittsburgh

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Speaker 2: Steelers have come to a better uh a better place

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Speaker 2: with Jake Browning than what the Steelers have and now

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Speaker 2: they will use uh well Mason Rudolph and and and

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Speaker 2: in this next game. Uh what are we expecting out

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Speaker 2: of this game? A lot of criticism being labbed towards

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Speaker 2: the Steelers. You know, I know you said that shouldn't

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Speaker 2: be a game that determines or dictates, uh Mike Tomlin's

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Speaker 2: future in Pittsburgh, But it always seems to be a discussion.

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Speaker 2: What do you guys, how let's start with the Steelers.

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Speaker 2: What are you thinking about the Steelers? Plex You know what?

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Speaker 1: Uh no, obviously you know Kenny's picking is back playing today.

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Speaker 1: Oh he is back.

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Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, apology, I'm watching the game right now.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 5: I beat the score of seven to three Bangles, but uh,

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Speaker 5: you know, the Stellers just on disarrayment. You know, I

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Speaker 5: talked about it this week like with this whole you know,

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Speaker 5: George Pickens, and he was saying he didn't want to

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Speaker 5: put hisself in the taking that situation, blocking and whatever

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Speaker 5: that may be. And I must say, you know, Ben

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Speaker 5: had some comments that he made last week about the

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Speaker 5: culture and the tradition and you know the standard that

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Speaker 5: we uphold ourselves to as players playing for the Steelers.

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Speaker 5: If you've been in that locker room, then you you

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Speaker 5: understand and know exactly what he's talking about. I think

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Speaker 5: when when I didn't see Mike Tomlin address this George

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Speaker 5: Pickens situation publicly, then I knew. I knew right away

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Speaker 5: things have changed, something wrong, because Mike Tomlin would never

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Speaker 5: hide behind anything that the way that George picking Can

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Speaker 5: inducted hisself on that play. He actually kind of defended

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Speaker 5: them almost, which found very odd for a man that

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Speaker 5: I know that he lets nothing. He always lets you

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Speaker 5: know where you're as a player, and he's always you

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Speaker 5: want to speak the truth to you. But when I

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Speaker 5: saw him defend him, I get it as a coach

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Speaker 5: and he's a young player, but I knew something was off.

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Speaker 5: And I think that's what Ben was talking about as

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Speaker 5: far as a culture shift and things are changing within

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Speaker 5: that organization. That was the red flag that went up

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Speaker 5: for me, and I said to myself, it's not the same,

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Speaker 5: you know, culture that we are used to because we,

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Speaker 5: as the players in that locker room, we are the

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Speaker 5: ones that govern that team. The culture is not created

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Speaker 5: by the coach. It's created by the players. And I

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Speaker 5: think that is what's wrong. And what's you know changing

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Speaker 5: in Pittsburgh is that, you know, the players aren't holding

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Speaker 5: each other accountable the way that we used to.

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Speaker 1: How you feel about Cincy TJ number one?

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Speaker 6: The game that plaque is watch must be on because

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Speaker 6: the game doesn't start til four thirty Eastern times, So

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Speaker 6: that's all Kenny Pickett is not playing.

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Speaker 1: Makeson Rudolf with That's show you where I'm Matt. I

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Speaker 1: gotta give.

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Speaker 6: I got to give Zach Taylor a ton of credit, man,

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Speaker 6: because when Joe got hurt, I thought the season was over.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was over.

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Speaker 6: And for him to do what he's done with Jake

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Speaker 6: Browning and his team to be in the playoff contention

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Speaker 6: right now, a playoff spot, he needs to receive a

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Speaker 6: ton of credit because he gets a lot of backlash

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Speaker 6: when things do go well without one of the best

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Speaker 6: quarterbacks in the league. There in playoff contention. I like

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Speaker 6: the Bengals chances, schedules not easy. They play the Steeters, Chiefs,

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Speaker 6: Browns tough.

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Speaker 2: Jonas Knox is coming up next. Enjoy Merry Christmas to

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