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Speaker 3: My ex boyfriend cheated on me before the most important day.

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Speaker 4: Of my life got at least wait a day.

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Speaker 3: Come on, bye twenty six female x thirty three mail.

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Speaker 3: At the time had been together for four and a

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Speaker 3: half years. We had a rough start, and honestly, he

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Speaker 3: showed all of his red flags at the beginning, and

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Speaker 3: I chose to ignore them. We met through a mutual

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Speaker 3: friend in it off right away. I was gone the

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Speaker 3: first month of our relationship for a family trip, but

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Speaker 3: we talked every day. When I got back, I started

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Speaker 3: seeing how bad his drinking was, so I brought it

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Speaker 3: to his attention, and he tried to be better, such

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Speaker 3: as sticking to a certain number.

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Speaker 2: When we were with friends and such.

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Speaker 3: So I finally asked if we could take the weekend

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Speaker 3: a clear conversation. He of course, went out with someone else,

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Speaker 3: and I got a call from his sister that night

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Speaker 3: saying he hadn't come home yet and asked if I

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Speaker 3: was with him, because he told her I would be.

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Speaker 3: I said no, and after a lot of chaos, I

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Speaker 3: got him home and went over to talk to him

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Speaker 3: the next day, because at this point he was never

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Speaker 3: down as he cried, cried every time I had to

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Speaker 3: remind him what he did. I said, as much as

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Speaker 3: I care about him, I don't want this from my life,

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Speaker 3: so I'm okay if he wants to beat this person,

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Speaker 3: I just can't stay around.

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Speaker 2: He quit cold turkey that day.

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Speaker 3: Three months into our relationship, he decided he decided he

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Speaker 3: couldn't trust himself without me around, so he moved in

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Speaker 3: with me right away, and then the VID hit real quick.

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Speaker 3: He and I definitely come from different backgrounds. I got

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Speaker 3: everything I ever needed growing up a good, loving family.

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Speaker 3: bad news. And once was ambitious, but after a bad

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Speaker 2: During the VID, things were pretty bad.

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Speaker 3: I'm a really happy person, always optimistic and ambitious and

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Speaker 2: He wasn't always like this either.

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Speaker 3: We had plenty of times where we were happy, cooked together,

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Speaker 2: Fighting and tears.

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Speaker 3: I got a job after graduation, waiting for the VID

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Speaker 3: to ends so I could go to grad school. It

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Speaker 3: After three and a half years since we got together,

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Speaker 2: He was relieved to hear that.

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Speaker 3: There was some wrong with me, and it wasn't that

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Speaker 3: I was unattracted to him, but to be honest, I

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Speaker 3: that was true I started treatment, and it's taking me

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Speaker 3: He wanted to excel in his passion of weight training,

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Speaker 2: I was supportive.

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Speaker 3: I just wanted him to finally be happy and finally

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Speaker 3: Finally the day came. I was getting ready for family

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Speaker 2: This was the most.

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Speaker 3: Important day to me because I never got a proper

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Speaker 3: Something had been bugging me that something wasn't right between us.

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Speaker 3: This was one of the hardest years of our lives.

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Speaker 3: But before I began my new chapter, I needed to

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Speaker 3: know everything. As we were going to bed, he was

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Speaker 3: I found his deleted messages. I found in his deleted messages,

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Speaker 3: messages to a girl, clearly flirting, calling her all the

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Speaker 3: how she how he wanted to be with her, sending

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Speaker 4: Yikes, dune yikes.

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Speaker 3: Staring longingly into a bowl of ice cream, like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I know that guy is a red flag crazy dude.

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Speaker 4: No, he cheated.

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Speaker 3: He's bad, and you knew he was bad the whole time.

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Speaker 3: You said that, you saw the red flags, and you

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Speaker 3: were just like no. I'm sure there were probably.

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Speaker 2: More girls and more messages, but I didn't get that far.

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Speaker 3: He came upstairs and I told him to stop once

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Speaker 3: was flying in that night, also the friend that introduced us,

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Speaker 3: and she was shocked. When he finally returned home, he

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Speaker 3: said he had deleted everything from his phone because he

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Speaker 3: didn't want there to be anything else that I could misconstrue,

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Speaker 3: but promised that was the only girl. Buddy, What do

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Speaker 3: I look like? I just blew in from stupid town?

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Speaker 3: What this is another classic? There's no list?

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Speaker 2: What list are you talking about? Yeah, there was never

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Speaker 2: a list. What do you mean?

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Speaker 4: I didn't even bring up a list?

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Speaker 2: Are you talking about? There was never anything in my phone? Look,

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Speaker 2: I deleted it. Look I deleted it. And also you.

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Speaker 3: Misunderstood what that even was, which is why I deleted

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Speaker 3: it because I hate just people misunderstanding me.

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Speaker 5: But also that was like the only girl that you

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Speaker 5: that you could have misunderstood anything about.

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Speaker 4: It was the only girl that I cheated on you with.

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Speaker 5: But also you misunderstood, and so I'm just leading so

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Speaker 5: you can't misunderstand anything else because it's.

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Speaker 4: Your fault, your phone. I was right for tackling you

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Speaker 3: It's like the equivalent of like you're walking down the

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Speaker 3: throws it into the ocean like that literally, and they're like, no,

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Speaker 3: it was I was saving you. Actually, the fat phone

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Speaker 3: I thought maybe if you accidentally walked into the water,

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Speaker 3: don't worry about it. Also, whatever you were reading must

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Speaker 3: have been a fanfit that I deleted. I saw his

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Speaker 3: phone again and sure enough, he deleted everything. His phone

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Speaker 3: was totally white. We had a big fight and he

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Speaker 3: He was weeping, saying he's never been a cheater, he

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Speaker 2: I saved his life. I'm a good person. Blah blah,

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Speaker 3: I said, I have never been this selfish to him,

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Speaker 3: He suggested couples counseling and I said, sounds great. You're

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Speaker 3: then cry harder because the one person I thought would

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Speaker 3: was a stranger. Festivities went on and he didn't come

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Speaker 3: first time since all of this and cried all the

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Speaker 3: the first time, and all.

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Speaker 2: He did was say, oh.

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Speaker 3: And I looked up at him and said, you're breaking

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry. What how did we get there? How did

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Speaker 4: we get there? How did we get there?

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Speaker 3: So he's going to be like, honestly, I just can't

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Speaker 3: respect to you anymore after you didn't break up with

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Speaker 3: me when you discovered did I cheated?

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Speaker 4: Honestly? Like the fact that you went through my phone.

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Speaker 5: The fact that I had to tackle you just so

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Speaker 5: that you could stop is like really crazy and.

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Speaker 4: I should never have to do that.

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Speaker 5: I hated doing that more than you hated being tackled. Yeah, true, true, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: this hurts me more than it hurts you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this guy needs to get Oklahoma drio.

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Speaker 4: That's crazy, dude, for real.

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Speaker 2: I assume the tackle was into like the bed.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I assume the tackle was not like a full

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Speaker 3: form linebacker tackle.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but like still trying to physically tackle you to

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Speaker 3: He was going to propose to me, but before he left,

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Speaker 2: I'm still working at my.

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Speaker 3: Dream job, living in an amazing place that feels much

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Speaker 3: As for my ex, I blocked him and everyone that

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Speaker 2: Honestly, the complete opposite of me. I'll be honest.

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Speaker 5: We were friends for half of a year, eating lunch

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Speaker 5: I never questioned why he didn't invite me to his house,

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Speaker 5: never have imagined that the man I fell in love

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Speaker 5: Maybe they don't like each other but are staying for

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Speaker 5: and I felt like the stupidest person on earth. All

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Speaker 4: To meet me.

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Speaker 5: Every time I said how disgusted I felt with myself

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Speaker 5: bomb me even harder. I'm not his first affair, probably

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Speaker 5: the twentieth woman he's slept with since getting married, but

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Speaker 5: he claims that I'm the first that he's fallen in

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Speaker 5: love with. He claimed that his affairs started when his

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Speaker 5: wife told him that she didn't want to have spicy

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Speaker 5: had met me. Later, I found out that he had

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Speaker 5: and he never stopped. Since his work allows him to

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Speaker 5: about threesomes in Australia, one night stands in New Orleans

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Speaker 5: I didn't think he was married, because if he was,

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Speaker 5: how could he get away with so much For almost

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Speaker 5: twenty five years. He even brought back a few women

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Speaker 5: to the house that he shared with his family. He

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Speaker 5: told me not to feel bad. If it wasn't me,

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Speaker 5: he would be with one of them. The guilt of

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Speaker 5: my part to play and my desire to do the

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Speaker 5: right thing are now strongest. When I found out he

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Speaker 5: was married, I wanted to see his wife for myself,

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Speaker 5: to ask her what the deal was with their marriage.

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Speaker 4: But if I'm going to be honest, I loved.

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Speaker 5: Him too much and didn't have the strengths to give

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Speaker 5: him up, and it was if it was really full

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Speaker 5: on cheating. He told me recently, he was just telling

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Speaker 5: me he loved me in the past because he wanted

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Speaker 4: Since those days three years ago, he's changed which is mine?

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Speaker 4: Who is this man?

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Speaker 2: Honestly though, like, I'm like you kinda you've earned this.

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Speaker 2: I hope this is a big old wake up call

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Speaker 2: for you. I hope so, because what you worked to

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Speaker 5: He said, Oh, like, man, I loved you, but I

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Speaker 4: And now three years later, I changed my mind.

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Speaker 3: You should maybe not believe the things that come out

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Speaker 2: He's cheated on his wife with twenty plus people.

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Speaker 4: And three years ago. Dude, they've been together for three years.

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Speaker 3: Now, this girl, Yeah, call me the weekend because I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna say, girl, you earned it.

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Speaker 5: He also said, I told my wife I'd love her

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Speaker 4: But that's not true anymore, is it.

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Speaker 5: His mask came completely off, and any love I used

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Speaker 2: Good.

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Speaker 5: I never told his wife because I was weak and

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Speaker 5: because I loved him too much to hurt him. But

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Speaker 5: now it's different. His wife is a stay at home mom. Frankly,

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Speaker 5: he uses that fact to financially her. After a few years.

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Speaker 5: I saw the game he plays. He has a separate phone,

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Speaker 5: He makes the money, pays the bills, pays the taxes,

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Speaker 4: Work and is instead a transfer.

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Speaker 5: She never asks questions how come their taxes say he

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Speaker 5: But that's funny because he cannot take any criticism. One

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Speaker 5: of his complaints about me, and really what he wants

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Speaker 5: to stop asking questions and give freedom. I know that

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Speaker 5: she doesn't work, but she could become very wealthy if

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Speaker 5: she gets even half of his assets in a divorce.

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Speaker 5: He has a four oh one K and pension that

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Speaker 5: in addition to several brokerage accounts.

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Speaker 4: There is also a.

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Speaker 5: Likelihood, if she gets a good lawyer, that there will

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Speaker 5: be clawbacks for the thousands in hotel rooms and restaurants

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Speaker 5: that he used for his infidelity over the years. I wonder,

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Speaker 5: as he claimed he was traveling for work but instead

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Speaker 5: going on date nights and sleeping over, could have Judge

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Speaker 5: subpedia his outlook calendar from work to verify if he

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Speaker 4: Good question. There's a chance that she does not divorce him.

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Speaker 5: They are Catholic and from a culture that excuses men

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Speaker 5: good lifestyle and an outwardly social picture of perfect life.

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Speaker 5: But I feel like she needs to make the decision herself,

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Speaker 5: after knowing everything.

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Speaker 4: Their youngest is now eighteen.

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Speaker 5: And will go to college in the fall, so there

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Speaker 5: an adult and can decide their own relationship with him.

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Speaker 5: I thought many times about how I would tell her

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Speaker 5: I don't have her and can't find her on social media,

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Speaker 5: but I do know where they live. I know he

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Speaker 5: is traveling for work in Europe today and won't be home,

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Speaker 5: so I'm thinking of just ringing her doorbell in the

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Speaker 5: for trespassing even if it comes to that. I'm prepared

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Speaker 5: for retaliation at work if it came to that, But

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Speaker 5: it would screw him over even more if he did that.

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Speaker 5: The last three years was not the person I wanted

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Speaker 5: to be, and I am so ashamed of myself. Any

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Speaker 5: relationship that I have in the future, I will disclose

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Speaker 5: everything that happened, and if it means I'm alone for

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Speaker 4: There is an edits.

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Speaker 5: I have texts, videos, pictures, and recorded him admitting to

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Speaker 5: make a statement, get subpoenaed, or be in a disposition,

445
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Speaker 5: I would be happy to. There are some comments, but

446
00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:49,840
Speaker 5: I want to hear your comments. Do you think that

447
00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:53,000
Speaker 5: talking face to face with this woman is a good idea. Nope, Yeah,

448
00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,679
Speaker 5: I'm a little worried for her. I do appreciate that

449
00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,359
Speaker 5: she's trying to make things right and trying to do

450
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Speaker 5: the right thing because because of her guilt. I do

451
00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:03,600
Speaker 5: appreciate that she's trying that.

452
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's just like I think this is more

453
00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:09,920
Speaker 3: about you than that at that actual situation.

454
00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:11,840
Speaker 2: It's kind of more about like you like making up

455
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Speaker 2: for it.

456
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

457
00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:17,040
Speaker 3: I really de vibe to me is that she's probably

458
00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:20,600
Speaker 3: known what's going on. She's Catholic, she's not gonna divorce,

459
00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:25,280
Speaker 3: she's got the money, she's got. You know, she're gonna

460
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Speaker 3: walk in there and she's gonna be like this, just

461
00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:32,680
Speaker 3: leave me alone, and then you're gonna be upset and

462
00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,400
Speaker 3: just write her a letter, yeah, something where you could

463
00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:39,280
Speaker 3: just give it to her and then remove yourself. You

464
00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:41,480
Speaker 3: don't need to be involved in what she does after that.

465
00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:43,720
Speaker 3: It's out of your hands. You've done enough.

466
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Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know if she knows, though, I think,

467
00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,800
Speaker 5: like it said that the the in the Catholic community

468
00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,320
Speaker 5: in her area, like that's the vibe. But but I

469
00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,480
Speaker 5: don't like, like it's funny.

470
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Speaker 4: For you to be forgiven people but since they got engaged, though, you.

471
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Speaker 5: Don't think talking about it, I don't think she would

472
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Speaker 5: like fine, or you don't think she would like I mean,

473
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Speaker 5: I don't know. It is surprising that he kept it

474
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Speaker 5: quiet for like twenty five years.

475
00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:10,440
Speaker 3: It seems to be so wide open that it's like, yeah,

476
00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:12,760
Speaker 3: it's almost like he's like flaunting it where it's like

477
00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,280
Speaker 3: I can get away with anything, like she won't even

478
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Speaker 3: leave me check it out.

479
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Speaker 2: Oh man. Yeah, we're just so brazen, especially because it's

480
00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:23,440
Speaker 2: like the way that.

481
00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:26,879
Speaker 3: He's treating her now, oh p yeah, by being like,

482
00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:28,240
Speaker 3: oh yeah, you think I was in love with you?

483
00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:28,800
Speaker 2: I mean I'm not.

484
00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:32,760
Speaker 3: That's crazy. Oh I forgot. That's not how you would

485
00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,320
Speaker 3: treat someone. You'd be like, he knows that she could

486
00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:38,679
Speaker 3: just go talk to his wife whenever. So if he

487
00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:41,480
Speaker 3: was actually afraid, I feel like he would have handled

488
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Speaker 3: that situation with more delicacy.

489
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Speaker 2: But I could be wrong.

490
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know.

491
00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:51,080
Speaker 3: It's just regardless though, it's like, you just tell her

492
00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:54,000
Speaker 3: the info that you have, you don't necessarily have to

493
00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:54,840
Speaker 3: do it face to face.

494
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I like.

495
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Speaker 5: Your letter idea, even if that says handle the letter

496
00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:01,359
Speaker 5: and walk away and she greet it later. There are

497
00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:03,600
Speaker 5: some comments. Comment Number one says, I would tell her.

498
00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,040
Speaker 5: Chances are she knows he's cheating, but probably doesn't know

499
00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:07,800
Speaker 5: the extent he is putting her.

500
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Speaker 4: At risks of STIs too.

501
00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:11,600
Speaker 5: I would go to her home and tell her in person,

502
00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,680
Speaker 5: and then just remove yourself from it. If she stays,

503
00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,919
Speaker 5: she stays. If she leaves, she leaves. Opie says, I

504
00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,560
Speaker 5: really don't think that she knows. They call each other amore,

505
00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,159
Speaker 5: and I see her sending him funny jokes through text.

506
00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:25,760
Speaker 5: At least, by some miracle, she did not have an

507
00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,679
Speaker 5: STI when he and I were together. I insisted that

508
00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,240
Speaker 5: he can get a test, and he showed me a

509
00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,240
Speaker 5: clean bill of health. Amazing how he's never had an STI.

510
00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:36,720
Speaker 5: Coming Number two says, tell her and tell her about

511
00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:40,520
Speaker 5: the secret accounts too. She needs all the information, Opie says, oh,

512
00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,880
Speaker 5: one hundred percent, especially his debit card to his dad's

513
00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,359
Speaker 5: bank account. His dad is older and has dementia, so

514
00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,600
Speaker 5: he's not monitoring the bank account. He would use his

515
00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:49,760
Speaker 5: own credit card and bank account to pay for things

516
00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:51,960
Speaker 5: his dad needs in his nursing home, and then use

517
00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,440
Speaker 5: his dad's card for his affairs. At the end of

518
00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,399
Speaker 5: the day, he's not taking anything more from his dad's money,

519
00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,359
Speaker 5: but by using his dad's bank account to pay for

520
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,000
Speaker 5: his affairs, he's not using marital assets, so that may

521
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:06,640
Speaker 5: not be clawed back. A judge may see differently, though

522
00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:10,640
Speaker 5: he may also get reamed for spending his dad's money

523
00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,080
Speaker 5: on his personal things. Of course, he can just say

524
00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,360
Speaker 5: that he's paying himself back for taking care of his dad.

525
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526
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527
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Speaker 6: My in laws are demanding gifts even though we've been

528
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:24,560
Speaker 6: no contact for years.

529
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Speaker 4: That doesn't deserve any sort of present.

530
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Speaker 6: I called my father this morning to see how they

531
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,800
Speaker 6: were all doing. Before he said good morning, he asked,

532
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Speaker 6: what the f is a dorm shower? And why are

533
00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,560
Speaker 6: my in laws asking for money and gifts? By the way,

534
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Speaker 6: this comes from key conclusion five five eleven, And if

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537
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Speaker 4: T'm separate it.

538
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Speaker 6: So background, my husband, children adult teens now, and I

539
00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:53,639
Speaker 6: went no contact with my husband's entire immediate family and

540
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:58,480
Speaker 6: most extended relatives since twenty sixteen. That's nine plus years

541
00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:02,000
Speaker 6: of not talking to, contacting, or having any type of

542
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:05,200
Speaker 6: relationship or interactions. We gave them over twenty years of

543
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:09,640
Speaker 6: chances and boundaries and consequences. That's to say it wasn't

544
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 6: a rash decision that was made selfishly or thoughtlessly through

545
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 6: the years. They send us in the actual USPS mail

546
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 6: because they're blocked everywhere else requests for gifts.

547
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 4: They have their Amazon wish list. They're like, hey, literally,

548
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,200
Speaker 4: I know we're not talking that. Look I've been eyeing

549
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:32,160
Speaker 4: this one thing on Amazon right type HTTPS. You see.

550
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 4: They like to create registries, Oh my gosh, what I said,

551
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 4: Like you.

552
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,120
Speaker 6: Would for a bridle or baby shower, and fill them

553
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 6: with obscenely priced items for simple things like birthdays, Christmas,

554
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:46,200
Speaker 6: graduation anniversaries, and every little eye.

555
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 4: Farted and therefore I deserve an expensive gift.

556
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:52,680
Speaker 6: Event On to last week into today, I called my

557
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 6: husband's on to catch up. She's the only one we're

558
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,920
Speaker 6: still in contact with, and she gave me a heads

559
00:23:57,960 --> 00:23:59,640
Speaker 6: up that my in laws were trying to get her

560
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 6: to pay.

561
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,080
Speaker 4: They use the term donate.

562
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 6: Over one hundred thousand dollars, not a typo for the

563
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 6: Golden granddaughter's dorm fees because we're family and we need

564
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:12,639
Speaker 6: to stick together and do our part.

565
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 4: Why aren't you doing your part to pay for her? Yeah?

566
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,679
Speaker 4: Why aren't you doing your part? Doesn't make sense.

567
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:23,680
Speaker 5: Right, Like you're I feel like part of your part

568
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:27,119
Speaker 5: would be to like talk to your family. Yeah, Like

569
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 5: imagine getting getting this from people that are like bloodlines,

570
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,399
Speaker 5: wait down the line, Like, yeah, they're like your family

571
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,399
Speaker 5: from I know, your third cousin twice removed, but your family,

572
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,240
Speaker 5: and you gotta give me one hundred thousand.

573
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,879
Speaker 6: Dollars exactly, Like, no, not, how I actually will not

574
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,359
Speaker 6: be doing that. When the lady, who is living a

575
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:48,920
Speaker 6: modest life and on Social Security, said absolutely not, they

576
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,360
Speaker 6: then send her an invitation via text to the dorm shower,

577
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,560
Speaker 6: and husband's aunt said it was beyond ridiculous not to

578
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:59,120
Speaker 6: mention the request for straight up cash when she graduated.

579
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,120
Speaker 6: In the meanwhile, while I'm getting texts and calls from

580
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 6: old acquaintances and childhood friends. We all grew up in

581
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 6: the same town and in law still live there, but

582
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 6: we've moved about four hours away, saying that my in

583
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:12,680
Speaker 6: laws are pestering them and trying to get a hold

584
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 6: of our information because we changed our cell numbers and

585
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 6: blocked them everywhere we digitally could. Last week, in the mail,

586
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 6: I received an actual printed invite along with registry information

587
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 6: not one place, but three separate stores, and because we

588
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 6: were curious, we my whole family found it comical, took

589
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:33,879
Speaker 6: a peak.

590
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 4: The cheapest thing on there was a.

591
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 6: Pack of washcloths in the sixty dollars range, followed by

592
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,439
Speaker 6: a power strip at one hundred and twenty dollars, and

593
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 6: the prices went up from there, including items in the

594
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:48,400
Speaker 6: two thousand dollars range. They even had commercial type appliances,

595
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,440
Speaker 6: which you can't even take or use in a dorm room. Yeah,

596
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 6: because they're like, she really needs this new oven, not us,

597
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 6: she needs it for herroom.

598
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, but like mail it to us and then we'll

599
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 5: move it to the dorm room. It'll just be easier

600
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,120
Speaker 5: that way, Yeah, exactly. So why are they even on there?

601
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 5: Then the phone calls started rolling in, which were sent

602
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 5: to voicemail from phone numbers we aren't familiar with. Mother

603
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:17,160
Speaker 5: in law ended up leaving a message husband's name.

604
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 7: This is your mom, niece's name is going away for

605
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 7: college and we need you to contribute one hundred thousand

606
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 7: dollars for her dorm. We also sent you, apparently the

607
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,919
Speaker 7: rest of us no longer exist, an invitation to our

608
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 7: dorm shower, and a picture from our graduation, which had

609
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,479
Speaker 7: requests for straight up money without even hosting a party.

610
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,680
Speaker 7: Don't disappoint us because you owe it to your niece

611
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 7: and sister.

612
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 6: First of all, no to the effity note. Second, niece's

613
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 6: parents make more than half a million a year. They

614
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,120
Speaker 6: both work for the state, love to brag, and their

615
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,680
Speaker 6: salaries are posted found that out from aunt. So shouldn't

616
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 6: they easily be able to afford their child's dorm necessities.

617
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 4: Third, my husband and I have her own.

618
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 6: Two children in university, one going into sophomore year and

619
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 6: one going into junior year, and we never made any

620
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 6: grand announcements, much less requests for money. They also choose

621
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 6: to stay local in order to save money. I mean,

622
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 6: it's not the problem is not that, you know, I

623
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:15,160
Speaker 6: feel like grad parties are.

624
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 4: Very common people. Yeah, usually you don't.

625
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 6: Request money, but uh right, but you can be like, hey,

626
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,919
Speaker 6: like if I don't need these gifts, I'm saving up

627
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 6: for something, like you could rephrase.

628
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 2: It that way.

629
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 6: It's weird to reach out to your family who you're

630
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 6: no contact with. Yeah, and ask for one hundred thousand dollars.

631
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,679
Speaker 6: That's that's an intense amount of money that you can't

632
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 6: just ask for. Fourth, what the effort you're trying to

633
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,120
Speaker 6: get money and gifts out of my parents and other

634
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:45,199
Speaker 6: elderly relatives. Aren't their laws against swindling senior citizens. My

635
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 6: husband dropped everything into the shreudter and I erased the

636
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,639
Speaker 6: voicemail with full intent of remaining and maintaining no contact.

637
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 6: In the last two hours, I've gotten six calls from

638
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 6: numbers I don't know, but area codes that are from

639
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:03,360
Speaker 6: the area, with nobody leaving any messages. WTF, Just when

640
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 6: you think you're out, they try to pull you back

641
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 6: into their e fery, so f and tired and the

642
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 6: nerve to do that. They didn't even bother asking about

643
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 6: their biological grandchildren that they claim to love with all

644
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 6: their hearts. Yeah, where's their hudred K. Yeah, there is

645
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 6: an edit and an update, folks, But do you have

646
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 6: any thoughts?

647
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 4: Yeah?

648
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 6: It just that's just so ridiculous, so ridiculous that you

649
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:28,159
Speaker 6: can't even respond to it.

650
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:29,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, exactly.

651
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,159
Speaker 5: I'm glad they just put it in the shutter and

652
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 5: just need Yeah, it's like what you even say trying

653
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 5: to interact, Yeah.

654
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 4: Because that's really like, like, you know, it's not going

655
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 4: towards any of that stuff, No, not at all. You know,

656
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 4: it's not.

657
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 5: They're they're getting kicked out of their house or something,

658
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 5: or they've gotten into substances or gambling or something like

659
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 5: that and they're down on cash.

660
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 4: So some reason they need the money.

661
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's not going like I feel like they're going

662
00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 6: to give your or their granddaughter like thirty bus You're

663
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 6: like happy.

664
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 5: Graduation, right right, It's like that's a a lot.

665
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 4: You're very far away from that one hund thousand.

666
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, but there isn't edits. I'm so sorry that I

667
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 6: didn't explain it correctly. To be clear, it's two separate things.

668
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 6: Request one one hundred thousand dollars for dorm fees and boardings,

669
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 6: so essentially rent and food.

670
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 4: Request to dorm shower.

671
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 6: Registering for gifts at specific stores that people are expected

672
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 6: to buy for you off a list produced and chosen.

673
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 4: By the graduate.

674
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 2: Edit too.

675
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 4: How did mother in law get the number?

676
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 2: We don't know.

677
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 6: We did have a friend say that they gave out

678
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 6: our address, which they had anyway, Why why'd the friend

679
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 6: do that? Yeah, we have friends in my family that

680
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 6: still live there. Our hometown that we both me and

681
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 6: my husband grew up in. Many people go to the

682
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 6: same church weekly, and many of the in laws attend.

683
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 6: That's the most probable place. We still give our new

684
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 6: numbers to our friends and family. Mother in law managed

685
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 6: to get our new number, and nobody has confessed to giving.

686
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 4: It to her.

687
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 6: I'm also getting a lot of calls from random numbers

688
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 6: I don't know, and they're not leaving voicemails that coincide

689
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 6: with mother in law calling. Mother in law as of

690
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 6: right now, has left a single message. Reverse directory on

691
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 6: the other numbers doesn't give me information somehow, at the

692
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 6: very least, mother in law has.

693
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:18,479
Speaker 4: Gotten our number.

694
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 6: We don't know if the other calls are related to

695
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 6: mother in law because they don't leave voicemails, but considering

696
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 6: the uptick in calls and the message from mother in law,

697
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 6: we think it's related to each other. No further voicemails

698
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 6: at this time and relevant comments. What is Opie's husband's

699
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 6: take on the situation. Opie says, as of now, he

700
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 6: wants to maintain no contact, which is the smartest move

701
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 6: for sure, Opie says. Prior to the no contact, he

702
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 6: was a diplomatic fensitter and it infuriated me because his

703
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 6: silence was the equivalent of acceptance. I credit our children

704
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 6: for somewhat dragging him out of the fog. But it's

705
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 6: been a two steps forward, one step back deal, and

706
00:30:56,320 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 6: there are cultural expectations and dysfunction that come into play.

707
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 6: Brainwashing would be the best way to describe it, and

708
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 6: doing what they wanted was his easiest choice. These people

709
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 6: are not normal or controllable, and they are very large family.

710
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 6: Mother in law has six siblings. Father in law has five.

711
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 6: Each sibling has a minimum of three children and one

712
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 6: had ten, oh with two passing away in their middle age.

713
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 6: Those children have gotten married and have children. When you

714
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 6: oppose one, you become their enemy. So picture a NonStop

715
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 6: barrage of Bible thumping and telling you that you're all

716
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 6: going a heck and curse. In our family and children,

717
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 6: conversations don't work. We gave them over twenty years of chances.

718
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 6: I refuse to fight and I refuse to submit. Therefore

719
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 6: we ignore. Commenter one says, and how is letting you

720
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 6: be subjected to pesterments somehow, not him imploding your marriage,

721
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 6: because you sound like you're at your wits end with

722
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 6: these people and he refuses to take steps. Well, okay,

723
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 6: now it sounds like he has taken steps. He went

724
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 6: no contact with thems. Not really his fault that they're

725
00:31:58,240 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 6: finding ways.

726
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 5: To Yeah, I mean they didn't give their address or

727
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 5: their number.

728
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 6: Like, yeah, a season desist letter might work, no need

729
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 6: to even go to court. But your husband prefers to

730
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 6: bury his head in the sand and let you be pestered.

731
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 6: Opie says, you're not wrong, but there's more to the story.

732
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 6: That doesn't make anything easy. But I'm not naive, and

733
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 6: there's a plan in place if things go south. He's trying,

734
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 6: and I'm giving him grace to change and learn. But

735
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 6: I'm not stupid, and my patience isn't infinite. But I

736
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 6: do think, like it's not just like he's trying, like

737
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 6: he did do something. They are no contact. That's not nothing. Yeah,

738
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 6: he went no contact with his entire family.

739
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's been like twenty years. Yeah, of no contact.

740
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 4: That's like pretty significant.

741
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, that doesn't mean op has, you know, doesn't

742
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 6: have a right to be upset about the current stuff

743
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 6: that's going on. But like I think to say, like, oh,

744
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 6: you're to be married to a guy that like lets

745
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 6: his family walk off, like he won no contact.

746
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like it's he's not letting them, No, he's not. Op.

747
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 6: He provides some context and an example of her in

748
00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 6: law's entitlement. My in laws didn't approve of our marriage.

749
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 6: They didn't want us to succeed. They thought that without

750
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 6: them and their help and influence, we would be nothing.

751
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 6: They're probably asking OP and her husband at their wedding

752
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 6: for one hundred k.

753
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 4: They're like, for your wedding, we would like one hundred k.

754
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 5: Right now that you're a part of the family, officially

755
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 5: you have to contribute.

756
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, there's the wedding registry and then there's the in

757
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 6: law registry.

758
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

759
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.

760
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 6: We proved them wrong. If we had anything or were

761
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 6: successful in any capacity, they couldn't stand it. Example, we

762
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 6: bought our first condo. They felt entitled and wanted keys

763
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 6: so they could come and go as they pleased.

764
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 4: I said no.

765
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 6: They waited till we were at work, oh my goodness,

766
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 6: and tried getting in using a locksmith.

767
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 4: So they tried to break in what are they not

768
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 4: in jail?

769
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 6: Honestly, they claimed to be the owners and said, look,

770
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 6: their name is on the butter and they hadn't have

771
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 6: time to change their driver's license. The locksmith went to

772
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 6: the manager's office because they often had spare keys, and

773
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 6: because I had been in and out of the manager's

774
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 6: office getting approvals for our renovations. They knew right away

775
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 6: that they weren't the owner and called the police. We

776
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 6: showed up and we're talking to the manager. We pulled

777
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 6: up to see my in laws standing next to the

778
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 6: cop car along with another officer. They explain what happened.

779
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 6: We reaffirmed that they had no right to enter. They

780
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 6: asked us if he wanted to press charge. His husband

781
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 6: said no, I okay, I would.

782
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 4: You should have press charged. They tried to break into

783
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:21,959
Speaker 4: your house.

784
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, but I begged the officer to scare the crap

785
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 6: out of them, and he kindly did. This is not

786
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 6: even the worst of it. So their logic is to

787
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 6: constantly take everything they can take, so we get overrun

788
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 6: with debt while they keep progressing and achieving, thus proving

789
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 6: to everyone that we were losers and.

790
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:39,760
Speaker 4: They predicted it. Why did they try?

791
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 6: Because they can and they think eventually they're going to

792
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 6: be successful.

793
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 4: And there is an update eight days later.

794
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 6: Wow, I do say, I do think that if they're

795
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,720
Speaker 6: trying to break in, like that's the level of stuff.

796
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, she'd get a restraining order or something like.

797
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 5: File chargers something. Yeah, because yeah, and then I'm sure,

798
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 5: like I mean they deleted in like shredded things. But

799
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 5: like if they keep getting letters and voicemails and stuff

800
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 5: like that, like that's stuff. So it's like you could

801
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 5: you have always proof?

802
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, you could.

803
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 5: Add all that up, like and maybe that will make

804
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,959
Speaker 5: them stop. Like bring if you are just ignoring them,

805
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 5: isn't going to make them stop?

806
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 4: Maybe the law can.

807
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,760
Speaker 6: Maybe the law has something to say about it. Update

808
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 6: eight days later. We are maintaining no contact, no gifts

809
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 6: or donations of one hundred thousand dollars because what they

810
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 6: ultimately want is a reaction or contact. We refuse to fight,

811
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 6: and we refuse to submit. Therefore we ignore. Our silence

812
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 6: is clear message that they don't hold any value in

813
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 6: our lives, and that drives them absolutely crazy. Google Voice

814
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 6: has been set up and everything else is being blocked

815
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 6: on the landline. If they don't leave a message or

816
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 6: aren't part of our contacts. Mother in law at this

817
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 6: point has left a single message, but we received at

818
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 6: least fifty calls last time I counted from numbers that

819
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,280
Speaker 6: we don't know, but we suspect our mother in law's

820
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 6: flying monkeys. I still don't understand why they're asking for

821
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 6: one hundred thousand dollars for dorm rent and food, because

822
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 6: anyway I look at it, the math ain't mathen That's

823
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 6: what I'm saying.

824
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 4: I spoke to my cousin, a lawyer not in my area,

825
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 4: and gave her all the information and asked her if

826
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 4: anything could be done. She reached out to.

827
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 6: A retired colleague who used to practice and now teaches,

828
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 6: and they basically said to continue to ignore because legally

829
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 6: not much can be done.

830
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 4: Annoying, but it is what it is. Now on to

831
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:30,720
Speaker 4: the gossip.

832
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 6: My dad and uncles are part of the church board

833
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 6: and have been for decades. They, the board, secretary, and

834
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 6: clergy get together every Monday and review the week ahead,

835
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 6: deal with issues, and approve or reject anything that needs

836
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 6: to be dealt with. Pretty standard stuff. The in laws

837
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 6: attend the church but aren't really active in terms of committees.

838
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 6: Fundraising and activities planning. Mother in law has volunteered once

839
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 6: at a bake sale in the forty plus years of

840
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 6: living in the community and attending this church. The church

841
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 6: has a huge banquet room that includes a stage, bar area,

842
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 6: and fountain. It's used for church functions, plays, bazaars, dinner dances, parties,

843
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 6: and can be rented out.

844
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 4: For a fee.

845
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 6: Everyone pays some sort of fee. The fee is a

846
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 6: complete breakdown of everything. There are two prices, one for

847
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 6: stewards members that pay yearly membership to the church, and

848
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 6: one for non stewards, non members or anyone else who

849
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 6: would like to rent the space. If you're a member,

850
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 6: then you get the rentals that cost, so the church

851
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:30,359
Speaker 6: doesn't really make anything extra on the rental. If you're

852
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,399
Speaker 6: not a member, then there's an op charge for using

853
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 6: the space. Mother in law and sister in law want

854
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,320
Speaker 6: to rent the space because they're anticipating two hundred plus

855
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 6: people for the dorm shower. Why is it a dorm shower?

856
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 6: Could it have just been a graduation party? I know,

857
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 6: I've never heard of the dorm shower. It's a grad party, Yeah,

858
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 6: that's what it is. Like.

859
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 5: It sounds like they're all gonna huddle up into this

860
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 5: tiny little dorm that's like probably half hers and then

861
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 5: throw a little party.

862
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, no one's gonna fit in there. Exactly, exactly, no

863
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:00,399
Speaker 4: one's gonna fit.

864
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 6: They filled in a request online that requires you to

865
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:06,720
Speaker 6: input your information, steward number, information about what the party

866
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 6: is for, how many people, what vendors, if there will

867
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 6: be liquor, and special requests. The board reviews it and

868
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 6: if they have questions, they make follow up calls. The

869
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 6: secretary had mother in law on speakerphone so that everyone

870
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 6: could listen and ask questions if needed. They aren't current stewards.

871
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,800
Speaker 6: Last time they were stewards was when their kids were little.

872
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 6: No judgment, just explaining they used their steward number from

873
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 6: decades ago and played stupid when the secretary said that

874
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 6: they need to be current stewards in order to get

875
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 6: the discount. They know this because they tried to bowl

876
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 6: the same crap for sister in law's big bridal shower.

877
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 6: You had a total of five as well as the

878
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 6: christenings of her children. Sheared a total of five bridal showers.

879
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 6: Whats how that's there's too many. The church has to

880
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 6: pull a variety of permits depending on what type of

881
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 6: party you're having, insurance plus security, liquor permits, custodians, and

882
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 6: a few other things. I'm sure I'm forgetting. There's a

883
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 6: pre approved list of vendors that you need to choose

884
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 6: from if you want to serve food or liquor, and

885
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 6: they set their own prices separately from the church if

886
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 6: you want to runt the space. Those are the rules

887
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 6: and have been for over thirty years. If you follow

888
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 6: the rules, then it's pretty seamless, and I've used them

889
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:19,919
Speaker 6: plenty of times throughout the years without any issues. Mother

890
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,399
Speaker 6: in law then try to negotiate the price because they

891
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 6: have volunteered so much throughout the years. Once you volunteered once,

892
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 6: then she tries to say that they're going to bring

893
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,359
Speaker 6: in their own food and liquor, which we know they

894
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,399
Speaker 6: can't because there's a license for it.

895
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:39,280
Speaker 4: These people man piece of work. Wowee man, oh wow.

896
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 4: I mean I don't know how you even put up

897
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 4: with them at all.

898
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, it does suck. They still like live relatively nearby, yeah,

899
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 5: like four hours.

900
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 6: But also it seems like you live nearby other family

901
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,919
Speaker 6: members and other friends, right, so there's still some kind

902
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 6: of overlap.

903
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, and which is tricky that they're involved in the church. Still,

904
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 5: it's like ever, everyone just needs they need to be

905
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:04,760
Speaker 5: far away from other people.

906
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 4: I agree, because they're they're not acting how people should.

907
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 6: Know they're acting, how people shouldn't. Yes, and there is

908
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 6: a little bit left to this story, so I should

909
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 6: finish it. Church said you have to use the preapproved

910
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:21,919
Speaker 6: vendors or you can't serve food or beverages. Then mother

911
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 6: in law pivots and wants to charge a fee to

912
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 6: enter and have a cash bar so she can use

913
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 6: the space and knowing her up charge to make a profit. Yes,

914
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 6: use the church's space to up charge, that's.

915
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 4: Crazy, so wild. The church explains that there would be

916
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 4: additional paperwork and fees for that paperwork. Mother in law

917
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,839
Speaker 4: doesn't like that and says to just forget it.

918
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 6: Under special request, she wants the choir to donate a performance,

919
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 6: and at the end they wanted to do some sort

920
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 6: of parade. My dad said that they were all just

921
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 6: sitting there shaking their heads at the ridiculousness of mother

922
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 6: in law. The fact that the party is supposed to

923
00:40:56,560 --> 00:41:01,320
Speaker 6: happen supposedly the first week of August, with the address

924
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 6: on the original invite being sister in law's house address.

925
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,439
Speaker 6: So two hundred plus people are going to go into

926
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 6: a residential neighborhood with limited parking for a dorm shower.

927
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,359
Speaker 6: I'm sure it'll be as classy as they are.

928
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 5: My in laws tried to have their wedding on my

929
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,879
Speaker 5: property after I already rejected it.

930
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 4: Not around a year partner.

931
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 2: My brother in law I.

932
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 5: Was thirty let's call him Duke, and my sister in

933
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 5: law at twenty five let's call her a Deana, have

934
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:29,760
Speaker 5: been together for two years.

935
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 4: This summer they had their wedding. I am still reeling.

936
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 4: Let's start from the beginning, Okay.

937
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 5: Duke and Diana got engaged winter of twenty twenty three.

938
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 5: In spring of twenty twenty four, they were evacuated from

939
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 5: where they lived twelve hours north of us because of

940
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 5: a forest fire. Oh of course we said that they

941
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 5: could stay with us. This included them and their two

942
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 5: large dogs. We live on an acreage and have two

943
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 5: large dogs ourselves, so.

944
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 4: This isn't an issue, or so we thought.

945
00:41:58,600 --> 00:41:58,839
Speaker 2: No.

946
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,879
Speaker 5: By the way, that's from a mess patient eight two

947
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Speaker 5: six four on the Charlotte Dover YouTube supreddit and if

948
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 5: you want to submit your own stories, go to the

949
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 5: hour slash Okay, Storytime, Sepreddit. So Duke, Indiana enjoy some

950
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 5: recreational activities, which is legal where we live to.

951
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 4: Each their own.

952
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 5: However, we at the time had two young children and

953
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,839
Speaker 5: now we have three. Legal or not, there are no

954
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 5: substances allowed in our home. They were respectable of this

955
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 5: rule and kept it outside, although our home reeked the

956
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 5: entire time while they were here. They would not take

957
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 5: care of their large, hyperdogs, and it became my responsibility.

958
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no.

959
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:35,919
Speaker 5: My husband works full time and I am at home

960
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 5: with the kids. Their dogs are not well behaved, and

961
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 5: I did not feel comfortable taking care of large dogs

962
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 5: constantly jumping at me and starting fights.

963
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 4: With our dogs. Our dogs are large, but lazy and

964
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 4: they don't jump truly.

965
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,919
Speaker 6: Like the second that I start seeing this behavior, yeah,

966
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 6: I'm like, uh, sorry, you need to take care of

967
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:53,800
Speaker 6: your dogs.

968
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 4: This is unacceptable behavior if you want to continue to

969
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 4: live here. Yeah, you address that immediately imediately.

970
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 6: Like the second that you have to start taking care

971
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 6: of their dogs and they're being aggressive with yours.

972
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 5: I promise the dogs are relevant. They would leave late at.

973
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 4: Night and drive high. I don't want to have to.

974
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,800
Speaker 5: Deal with that responsibility if anything happens to them. Anyways,

975
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 5: during that time that my brother in law, let's say Tim,

976
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 5: got married that year, while they were down here for

977
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,959
Speaker 5: the evacuation, he is brothers with my husband and Duke.

978
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 5: Duke and Diana were late to help with setup and

979
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 5: over an hour late to the intimate rehearsal dinner because

980
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 5: they were napping, which was not really they.

981
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 4: Were okay, no, well, both of those excuses are dumb.

982
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 4: Absolutely absolutely.

983
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,760
Speaker 6: I also would I think I would be really pissed

984
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 6: if someone told me they were napping and that's why

985
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 6: they missed something.

986
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 2: I feel like, yeah, the.

987
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:48,839
Speaker 4: Truth set alarm. Yeah, come on, come on.

988
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 5: Throughout the wedding, Diana was commenting about all the things

989
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 5: that she would never do at her wedding. It was

990
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 5: a classy and well done wedding. It's clear from so

991
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 5: many small instances that they have no respect for others,

992
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:02,919
Speaker 5: their boundaries, property, or time.

993
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 4: I mean, what did they know about class? Yeah, clearly nothing.

994
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,320
Speaker 5: Well, they stayed with us for three weeks waiting to

995
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 5: be allowed back into their home.

996
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 4: Nothing was damaged. They planned their wedding.

997
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 5: Sort of they asked if they could have their wedding

998
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,320
Speaker 5: on our property. No, this is where my husband and

999
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 5: I got married in the height of the VID before

1000
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:20,760
Speaker 5: my husband bought the house.

1001
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 4: It was family land.

1002
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 5: We said we would consider it because it could be

1003
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 5: considered a special spot to duke.

1004
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 4: After three weeks they went back up north.

1005
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 5: My husband and I talked about it and decided that

1006
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 5: we could not host a wedding for them.

1007
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 4: That summer. I became pregnant with.

1008
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 5: Our third My husband works a lot of overtime in

1009
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 5: the summer, and they were aiming to get married in

1010
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 5: July twenty twenty five.

1011
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:42,320
Speaker 4: We didn't think we would be able to get the house.

1012
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 5: Or property wedding ready as well, I didn't want to

1013
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 5: have to host a wedding while caring for three young children,

1014
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 5: as our baby would be a newborn at the time.

1015
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 4: And you know, you would have to do everything absolutely.

1016
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:53,879
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1017
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 4: They wouldn't even take care of their own dogs.

1018
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.

1019
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 5: And on top of that, much of Deanna's family partakes

1020
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 5: in reck creational activities and we couldn't trust that these

1021
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 5: people we didn't know would respect our rules of no

1022
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 5: devils let us in the house. Now, the one thing

1023
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 5: this family lacks is communication the one thing, and we

1024
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 5: must take responsibility for our lack of communication. They said

1025
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 5: that they thought our place would make a good venue.

1026
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 5: They did not say for sure that they wanted to

1027
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 5: get married there, so we waited to hear about more

1028
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 5: wedding plans. We didn't want to have to say no

1029
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 5: and be a holes if they choose a different venue.

1030
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 4: I think that's fair. I don't even think that's a

1031
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 4: lack of communication on your end.

1032
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 6: I think it's just them being like, oh, it'd be

1033
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 6: nice to have a wedding gear, and you're like, hmmm, yeah.

1034
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 4: They didn't say, hey, can we have the wedding here?

1035
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 2: Right right?

1036
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, and like hopefully you guys didn't say like, oh, yeah,

1037
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 5: that would be nice.

1038
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:43,399
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1039
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 4: As long as you didn't say that, right, you're fine.

1040
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 5: We assumed after announcing our pregnancy that they wouldn't expect

1041
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 5: us to host with a new baby. We told family

1042
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 5: about the baby in August twenty twenty four. They never

1043
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,360
Speaker 5: followed up with us, and since we didn't agree to hosting,

1044
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 5: we assumed that they found a different wedding venue. Fast

1045
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 5: forward February twenty twenty five. I am as pregnant as

1046
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,879
Speaker 5: it gets, and honestly, my mental health wasn't great. Duke

1047
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:12,320
Speaker 5: and Deana sent out wedding invites location my address when July.

1048
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 5: Of course, No, that's crazy. What and now the invite's

1049
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 5: already out.

1050
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 4: That's insane.

1051
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:22,800
Speaker 2: I was livid.

1052
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:26,399
Speaker 4: My husband, who was also upset, handled it very well.

1053
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:27,800
Speaker 4: He told them that we were.

1054
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 5: Unable to accommodate them, and he was much kinder about

1055
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 5: it than I would have been. We expected a fight,

1056
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 5: but they agreed to change the venue. We appreciated that greatly.

1057
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,439
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, okay, and it.

1058
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 5: Was e invites, so it was not costly to change

1059
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 5: or wesend free. In fact, now you may have already

1060
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,479
Speaker 5: decided that I'm the a hole for making them change

1061
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 5: their venue.

1062
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:48,359
Speaker 4: No, no, not at all.

1063
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 5: No, But let me paint a picture for you of

1064
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 5: their wedding and celebration. After we said our place was

1065
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 5: a no go, they had to look for another venue,

1066
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 5: but it was difficult because they wanted a specific date,

1067
00:46:58,360 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 5: a Thursday.

1068
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:03,720
Speaker 4: Weird. J We thought that was weird. But whatever.

1069
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 5: My husband asked to why that day was so important,

1070
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 5: and we were told you.

1071
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 4: Aren't allowed to ask. Okay, what's a secret. It's a secret,

1072
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 4: don't ask me.

1073
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:18,320
Speaker 5: It'sant It's important because of Nuanya business.

1074
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 4: Now it's the end of June and they are.

1075
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 5: Getting married at the beginning of July. As expected, this

1076
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 5: wedding is messy and unorganized. At this point, they have

1077
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,879
Speaker 5: had one and a half years to plan and prep

1078
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 5: for this wedding. All decores, Ye, why and so was

1079
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 5: mine for my wedding? My mom and I did it

1080
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:39,439
Speaker 5: all during our six month engagement. Duke Indiana have done

1081
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:42,319
Speaker 5: none of it beforehand. Everything is brought down. They still

1082
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 5: got married down here to be made and done, only

1083
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 5: two weeks before the wedding. During this time, they are

1084
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:49,879
Speaker 5: staying with mother in law and father in law because

1085
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,320
Speaker 5: I was not hosting and caring for their insane dogs.

1086
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,320
Speaker 4: With young children and a new baby.

1087
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:56,279
Speaker 5: The family thinks I'm ridiculous for not catering to the

1088
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 5: knees of the precious family Fave and his doom to

1089
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 5: be born. They try to passive aggressively encourage us to

1090
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 5: take the dogs to our house because there is more

1091
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 5: space on our property.

1092
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 4: We did not cave. I started to wonder if I'm

1093
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 4: being the a hole.

1094
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 5: It is their wedding, maybe I should be more lenient,

1095
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,800
Speaker 5: but apparently Deiana doesn't like anything mother in law cooks.

1096
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 5: I don't always agree with my mother in law and

1097
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 5: we don't always get along, but she's a good woman

1098
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 5: and she would cook anything for anyone. And sister in

1099
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 5: law keep saying, oh no, I don't like that and

1100
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 5: won't eat it with the family. She will only go

1101
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 5: get fast food after the meal.

1102
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 4: That's so rude, dude.

1103
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 5: If someone is like letting you stay with them, even

1104
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 5: for anything, like especially a wedding, like yeah, and you're

1105
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 5: not gonna eat their cooking.

1106
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 4: That's crazy.

1107
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 6: If someone was staying with me and they were like

1108
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 6: and I was like, yeah, like I cooked it, and

1109
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 6: they're like yeah, and.

1110
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 5: Then you do cook and afterwards they get fast food

1111
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 5: because they don't like it.

1112
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 4: I would be heartbroken, I tell much.

1113
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 5: I like, like, I feel like, if you really really

1114
00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:00,840
Speaker 5: didn't like whatever someone's cooking for you offered cook yourself.

1115
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, like you for everyone? Yeah?

1116
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, like come on, father in law cooks a steak

1117
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 5: and she requests a hot dog instead.

1118
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 4: What this is?

1119
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 2: Like me?

1120
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:14,400
Speaker 4: This is like how I was as a child.

1121
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:17,799
Speaker 6: Yeah, your parent gives you like pasta and you're like, yeah,

1122
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 6: I want chicken.

1123
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 5: Nig yeah exactly. They of course give her what she

1124
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 5: wants what, But suddenly mother law is very upset when

1125
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 5: they leave to stay at a hotel a few days

1126
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 5: before the wedding and she is left to care for

1127
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 5: the dogs and the cats. Yes, they brought their cats

1128
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:35,879
Speaker 5: because apparently there's no house sitter or animal caretaker where

1129
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,800
Speaker 5: they live, and that's why we didn't want the animals

1130
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 5: at our house.

1131
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:44,919
Speaker 6: Well, uh a dendum, no free house. Yeah, cat sitter exactly.

1132
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 6: That's a very important note.

1133
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 5: My daughter had her second birthday the first week of

1134
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 5: July and it was great to have them in town

1135
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 5: so everyone could come for the party. Just a super

1136
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 5: chill ween or roast. Sister in law is upset that

1137
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 5: it's hot dogs and won't eat anything.

1138
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:01,319
Speaker 4: She doesn't want hot dogs. Come on, girl, make up

1139
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 4: your mind.

1140
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 5: Mind It Unfortunately rains and we have to move the

1141
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 5: party inside. She sits outside and will not come in

1142
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:09,840
Speaker 5: to do cake in presents with her knees.

1143
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 6: She's getting soaked eating a hot dog or not eating

1144
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 6: a hot dog today.

1145
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 4: I don't know what she's eating today. Why are you

1146
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:16,240
Speaker 4: staying outside? You're crazy?

1147
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:18,840
Speaker 5: I know my daughter won't remember, but it frustrates me

1148
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 5: when my family won't make an effort with my kids.

1149
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 4: She's too just come and have cake with her.

1150
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 5: Supposedly she has social anxiety, which is fair, but except

1151
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 5: she sure didn't have any during her wedding celebration.

1152
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:34,760
Speaker 4: Which I promise we will get to. It wasn't a big.

1153
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 5: Birthday party, just a little celebration with family and a

1154
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 5: couple close friends.

1155
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 4: So it's the day before the wedding.

1156
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 5: I go with lots of other family to help decorate

1157
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:43,839
Speaker 5: and set up the hall. But we aren't setting up.

1158
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 5: We are making the decorations they've had, they've had a

1159
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 5: year and a half.

1160
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 4: We're making signs, bouquets with fake flowers. You had all

1161
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 4: been done.

1162
00:50:56,239 --> 00:51:01,439
Speaker 5: Advance centerpieces, painting signs, and making and decorating an arch.

1163
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 5: Nothing was organized. We went out to grab more supplies.

1164
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 5: It was thirty degrees celsius in a building with no ac.

1165
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:11,400
Speaker 4: Ooh, and it's hot. Yeah, that's not too hot, but

1166
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:13,839
Speaker 4: with no ac that is hot. That's a hot, you know,

1167
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 4: like that's like a yeah something ay.

1168
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:20,400
Speaker 5: Her dad had to stop helping to bathe his dogs.

1169
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:23,800
Speaker 5: It was wild. I worked hard, and so did everyone else.

1170
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 5: They worked their butts off to pull this wedding together

1171
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 5: for Duke and Deanna, because despite my.

1172
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 4: Bad attitude, we do love them. So rehearsal.

1173
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 5: The chaplain isn't there to run the rehearsal, so we

1174
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 5: are missing a groomsman, and the littlest flower girl eighteen

1175
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 5: months old, isn't there to practice.

1176
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 4: Deanna is looking lost, so I offered a help.

1177
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 5: I'm no expert, but I've been to a lot of

1178
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,359
Speaker 5: weddings recently and explain how things are usually done, and

1179
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 5: I ask if she wants me to step in or

1180
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 5: if she wants me to just sit and be quiet.

1181
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 5: She did ask for my help, so I directed the processional.

1182
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 4: It's messy, but we practice and it's okay.

1183
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:58,439
Speaker 5: She's very specific about the timing of her entrance, which

1184
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 5: I get the little parts. I told her we might

1185
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 5: have to loop the song as it's quite a long

1186
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:06,320
Speaker 5: walk down a hill to where they are saying their vows.

1187
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 4: Don't worry, it's relevant. So finally, the day of the wedding,

1188
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 4: Are we ready?

1189
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 2: Every were ready? We ready?

1190
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:14,919
Speaker 4: We get to the hall.

1191
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 5: Deanna is there not ready, freaking out about the dcorseto

1192
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 5: the groom and grooms men are almost laid because they

1193
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 5: realized that morning that he didn't have a tie.

1194
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:28,240
Speaker 4: They also had to stop and grab sorry what Yeah, yeah,

1195
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:30,720
Speaker 4: he didn't have a tie. He didn't have one tie.

1196
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:32,360
Speaker 4: That's crazy, dude.

1197
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 5: They also had to stop and grab booze for the

1198
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 5: wedding the morning of, because why would we be prepared.

1199
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 5: When Duke gets there, Deanna starts fighting with him about

1200
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 5: stuff that he was supposed to do but didn't.

1201
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:44,320
Speaker 4: It's a mess.

1202
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 5: Finally, whatever the heck is going on is resolved, and

1203
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 5: she keeps getting ready. The wedding ceremony starts thirty minutes late.

1204
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 5: In the grand scheme of things not bad, probably the

1205
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:56,759
Speaker 5: best part of the day, so things are off to

1206
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:59,320
Speaker 5: a rocky start. No one thought to bring the speakers

1207
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 5: out for the music. We finally get it set up

1208
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:03,320
Speaker 5: and we can start. I'm at the top of the

1209
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:05,799
Speaker 5: hill with the flower girls and ring bearer. Two of

1210
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 5: the four kiddos are mine. My son is almost four

1211
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:10,840
Speaker 5: and he's the oldest. I asked him to hold the

1212
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 5: littlest girl's hand to help her down the hill, and

1213
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:16,720
Speaker 5: most eighteen month old kids haven't been walking for long

1214
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 5: and they certainly haven't mastered hills. Music is playing. The

1215
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:23,320
Speaker 5: bridal party is making their entrance, but not fast enough.

1216
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:26,240
Speaker 5: Deanna starts freaking out. Why aren't they going fast enough?

1217
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:27,240
Speaker 5: I said, it's.

1218
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 4: Okay, we can loop the song.

1219
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:30,359
Speaker 5: The Grandma's took a little longer going down the hill

1220
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:32,839
Speaker 5: than expected. They were walked down the hill with help,

1221
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 5: but old ladies take a while.

1222
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 4: She snaps at me. No one gets how important it

1223
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 4: is until it's their moment. Okay, Well, it wasn't that

1224
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 4: important to you, clearly because we plan anything.

1225
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, like, why are you starting at the top of

1226
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 5: a hill for your walk down the aisle? You're supposed

1227
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:51,839
Speaker 5: to start, like where the people are sitting? Yeah, my guy,

1228
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:54,279
Speaker 5: I doubt you have enough people at this party to

1229
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 5: be up stations.

1230
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 4: Of the cross. Let's make it a little easier. Come on.

1231
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:00,879
Speaker 4: I didn't say anything. I don't want to be rude.

1232
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:03,359
Speaker 5: It's her wedding and it can be stressful, but I,

1233
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 5: of all people, get it. I replanned my wedding four

1234
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:08,359
Speaker 5: times during the VID to follow all the rules. She

1235
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:10,760
Speaker 5: throws her phone to me. It's connected to the speakers

1236
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 5: with the music, and she doesn't want to carry her

1237
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:13,240
Speaker 5: phone in the aisle.

1238
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 2: There.

1239
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 5: Now it's time for the children to go. My son

1240
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 5: is going slow because the little girl can barely walk

1241
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 5: and it's downhill. Deanna snaps at the kids to hurry up.

1242
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 5: They turn around and start coming back up because they

1243
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:26,760
Speaker 5: think that they're.

1244
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 4: Doing something wrong.

1245
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:28,880
Speaker 2: Aw.

1246
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 5: She snaps again and grabs the littlest one and barrels

1247
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 5: down the aisle. My son is sensitive and starts to

1248
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 5: cry because this ant that he barely knows is yelling

1249
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:40,800
Speaker 5: at him, and there's lots of people around that he

1250
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 5: doesn't know. I take my kids and go sit down.

1251
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 5: I can only imagine what pictures look like. And somehow

1252
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 5: it doesn't end here. They have super fast vows, and

1253
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 5: here's the twist. The chaplain announces that they are already

1254
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:57,760
Speaker 5: married and it's their one year anniversary.

1255
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:04,319
Speaker 4: Hike one of those things jokes on you. You've just

1256
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 4: been pranked.

1257
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:10,840
Speaker 5: No one says anything, no one collapsed, and they kiss.

1258
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 4: There's absolute silence.

1259
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:18,279
Speaker 5: It's a fake wedding, she yelled at my kids for

1260
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 5: a fake moment.

1261
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:21,879
Speaker 4: It's fine to a lope, and.

1262
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 5: It's okay to celebrate at a different date if you

1263
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:26,400
Speaker 5: can't afford it, But to lie to everyone for a

1264
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 5: whole year. Now we know why the day was so special. Yeah,

1265
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 5: they weren't allowed to ask because it's their anniversary.

1266
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 4: Anniversary. Yeah, my gosh, that's crazy.

1267
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 5: And a year before they posted a pick of both

1268
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:40,880
Speaker 5: of them at wearing rings and I asked, did you

1269
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 5: guys get married? And she said no, it's a men's

1270
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 5: engagement ring. My husband was in the wedding party, so

1271
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:48,279
Speaker 5: of course he was in the photos. They had to

1272
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 5: take multiple breaks during photos to light up and get

1273
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 5: some fresh air.

1274
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:55,760
Speaker 4: They were over an hour late for the reception.

1275
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:56,880
Speaker 2: Wild.

1276
00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:59,919
Speaker 5: Everyone at the wedding is pleasant, but it for sure

1277
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 5: put a damper on the whole mood. Not gonna lie,

1278
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 5: I checked out, I did not help with clean up.

1279
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:07,799
Speaker 5: I wasn't gonna drag my kids back to the hall

1280
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:10,319
Speaker 5: for another day. And my husband wasn't taking another day

1281
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 5: off work for this.

1282
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 4: He was hurt his brother got married and didn't tell

1283
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 4: him or anyone about it.

1284
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 6: If I found out that Sam got married and I

1285
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:19,239
Speaker 6: didn't know, I'd be devastated.

1286
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:21,359
Speaker 4: I would be so sad. But I have a very

1287
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 4: close relationship with my brother. Yeah, if I you know,

1288
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 4: maybe maybe Opie's husband doesn't have that closed. I don't know. Yeah, yeah,

1289
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:32,839
Speaker 4: but uh, I say, yeah, Sam's not allowed to do. Yeah.

1290
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 4: My cousin told me to take our gift back. I

1291
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:37,280
Speaker 4: thought about it, but we didn't.

1292
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 5: Many people traveled so far for this wedding, anywhere from

1293
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 5: five to twenty three hours of driving or flights for

1294
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:46,240
Speaker 5: a fake wedding for a joke.

1295
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 4: Well, I will say, I don't think it was a joke. Yeah,

1296
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:50,239
Speaker 4: I wouldn't call it.

1297
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 6: I think it was a ceremony to celebrate and they

1298
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:54,239
Speaker 6: were trying to do a whole because I have I

1299
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 6: have seen the trend that you're talking about.

1300
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, and regardless of.

1301
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:59,399
Speaker 6: What like I would do or not, right, I do

1302
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 6: think it's it's not fair to say it's fake.

1303
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:04,840
Speaker 4: It is still a ceremony. Yeah, but I understand that

1304
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 4: you're hurt.

1305
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 2: Right, right.

1306
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:10,400
Speaker 5: There were so many small things that happened. My husband

1307
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:12,719
Speaker 5: did not hide how he was feeling. Deanna asked me,

1308
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:15,280
Speaker 5: is your husband mad at me? He seemed kind of grumpy.

1309
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 5: I just laughed and walked away. So am id a hole.

1310
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 5: I didn't let them have their wedding at my house.

1311
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 5: I didn't help with cleanup, and I don't want them

1312
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 5: to stay at my house again. I feel like they

1313
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 5: have no respect for time, property or boundaries of others,

1314
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 5: and I don't want her around yelling at my kids

1315
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 5: that she won't take the time to make an effort

1316
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 5: with am I overreacting. At the end of the day,

1317
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 5: it doesn't really matter because it wasn't a real wedding.

1318
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 1: Hey, it's sam og Host. We're going to get back

1319
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:43,400
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Speaker 3: My best friend accused me of cheating on him platonically.

1322
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 4: Not a thing. That's quit. That's not a thing.

1323
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:54,480
Speaker 3: I'm in the middle of an ongoing argument with my

1324
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 3: best friend, my female nineteen best friend male at nineteen

1325
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 3: and I have been closed for three years. I have

1326
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:03,440
Speaker 3: quite a large social circle, but it has always been

1327
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 3: common knowledge that Matt is the person I'm obviously fondest of.

1328
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 3: People know that, and it's no secret that we spend

1329
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 3: most of our time with each other. By the way,

1330
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:13,640
Speaker 3: this country, mus are soft savings four one two six,

1331
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 3: and if you want to submit your own stories, go

1332
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 3: to the r slash joke story time subbreddit. So things

1333
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:22,800
Speaker 3: were absolutely fine until this week. I was invited on

1334
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 3: a five day camping trip with some of my coursemates

1335
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 3: at college. We spend a lot of time together and

1336
00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 3: wanted to celebrate the end of the semester by saving

1337
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 3: up to go somewhere for reference. Matt isn't part of

1338
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 3: this group because he does another major, so it didn't

1339
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 3: really come up in conversation before this point because he

1340
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 3: hardly knows these people and.

1341
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 2: It didn't seem like a big deal to me.

1342
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 3: The trip is scheduled for the start of August, and

1343
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 3: I told Matt at the start of this week that

1344
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 3: I was going. He went silent, and when I asked

1345
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 3: him what was the matter, he said that it was

1346
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:53,440
Speaker 3: weird how I put that much money in time aside

1347
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 3: for people I've only known since September. I told him

1348
00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 3: that's ridiculous, because we spend a lot of time together

1349
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 3: as a group and we're good friends. He still went

1350
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 3: on to say that we've never traveled together and he's

1351
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 3: got two years on them. Then he said, it's like

1352
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 3: I'm a platonic cheater, quote unquote. I feel bad because

1353
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 3: my first instinct was to laugh a bit, because honestly,

1354
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 3: I didn't expect him to come out with that, but

1355
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 3: he hung up the phone and wouldn't answer my texts.

1356
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 3: I don't know what to do about this because I

1357
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 3: can't find it in me to apologize. I'm not a cheater,

1358
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 3: and I feel like he's making me out to be

1359
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 3: the a hole for having friends besides him. To be honest,

1360
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 3: I think the reason we've never traveled alone is because

1361
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 3: it'd be a solo trip between two members of the opposites,

1362
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:36,120
Speaker 3: and frankly.

1363
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 2: It'd feel like dating territory.

1364
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 3: It's just not appropriate and I'd rather travel in a group.

1365
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 3: But Matt's friends aren't my friends, and my friends aren't his.

1366
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 3: It's not that I think he'd come on to me

1367
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 3: or anything, but I think that's the type of thing I'd.

1368
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 2: Rather reserve for a boyfriend.

1369
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 3: By the way, this will be my first traveling experience

1370
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 3: done with friends rather than family. So am I the

1371
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:58,920
Speaker 3: a hole for choosing to vacation with relatively new friends

1372
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:01,439
Speaker 3: instead of my best friend of three years? So there's

1373
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 3: an edit here from the next day. I rang Matt

1374
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 3: today after reading the comments from this morning, asked and

1375
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 3: asked if we could meet up to talk in person

1376
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 3: because I'm not happy about the silent treatment.

1377
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 2: We argued on Wednesday night.

1378
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:15,160
Speaker 3: He'll said he'll come over after his shift on Tuesday,

1379
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 3: so I guess i'll update if we resolve. I'll probably

1380
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 3: be the only one doing this because I don't want.

1381
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:24,440
Speaker 2: To drag the situation. So whatever.

1382
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:27,200
Speaker 3: He didn't apologize over the phone. By the way, and

1383
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 3: there's some more comments here from Ope. A commenter says

1384
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 3: he seems to think you're his girlfriend or something. Right,

1385
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:36,480
Speaker 3: Opie says people do often mistake us for a couple.

1386
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 3: A commenter says, not the a hole. You are allowed

1387
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:41,520
Speaker 3: to have other close friendships and go on trips with

1388
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 3: whoever you want. Matt is acting possessive and framing your

1389
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 3: choice as betrayal, which is unfair and emotionally immature. It's

1390
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:52,120
Speaker 3: okay for him to feel left out, but it's not

1391
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:54,959
Speaker 3: okay to guilt you over it. You've done nothing wrong

1392
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:57,640
Speaker 3: by saying yes to a fun opportunity with your college friends.

1393
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 3: If he values the friendship, he'll talk it out once

1394
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:04,080
Speaker 3: he cools down. Ope, He replies, thank you. I'm trying

1395
01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 3: to assure myself of that. But he has been a

1396
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 3: rock for me, so he's kind of got me thinking

1397
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 3: I've betrayed him in a way, which sounds crazy, But

1398
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:12,160
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1399
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 2: I mean, like there is.

1400
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 3: Something to be said about like completely abandoning like old

1401
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 3: friends for like the new hotness or whatever, like, but

1402
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 3: I don't feel like that's what's.

1403
01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 2: Happening, because you told him about the trip a week

1404
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 2: before it happened. You were actively hanging out, like.

1405
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:29,400
Speaker 4: Yeah exactly, And I mean, do we know how old

1406
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 4: these people are?

1407
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 2: Nineteen?

1408
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, hey, yeah, Like it feels like a very high

1409
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 5: school thing and a nineteen year out of high school now,

1410
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:38,680
Speaker 5: but like it feels like a very high school thing

1411
01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 5: to not understand that, like people can do things without

1412
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:47,600
Speaker 5: like either the entire friend group or like without everyone

1413
01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 5: that you know, you know what I mean.

1414
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:50,520
Speaker 4: Like it's a big thing to go on a trip.

1415
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:54,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, but like even though it's a big deal, it

1416
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 5: doesn't mean that everyone has to be involved.

1417
01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:58,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, just let it, let it be. Come on, guys.

1418
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:01,280
Speaker 2: Another commenter says, Matt, that is obviously into you and

1419
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:04,000
Speaker 2: not telling you. Opie says peace.

1420
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:04,120
Speaker 5: No.

1421
01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:06,880
Speaker 3: Top comment is, girl, I think your friend likes you.

1422
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:09,400
Speaker 3: Why else would someone come up with platonic cheater? Give

1423
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 3: me a break. Opie's like, I thought it was because

1424
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 3: we're so close, am I effingdnse? No, you're nineteen about

1425
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 3: being more than friends, Opie says, I'm starting to worry

1426
01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 3: that is the case, which I don't think would end well,

1427
01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:25,200
Speaker 3: because we have been so close and opened up about

1428
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:27,400
Speaker 3: so much that it's almost too vulnerable.

1429
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:30,360
Speaker 2: You know, like our relationship is not a casual friendship.

1430
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:32,520
Speaker 3: We know deep things about the other's life, and I

1431
01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 3: feel like that's too intense for a budding and dating relationship.

1432
01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:39,040
Speaker 3: Does that make sense, Opie continues, I guess I would

1433
01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:41,960
Speaker 3: have to interrogate him over that. I feel like I'm

1434
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 3: in my I feel like in my head he's always

1435
01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 3: been an off limits person because we're so close, and

1436
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:48,360
Speaker 3: so even when there were times I considered us being

1437
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:51,200
Speaker 3: something more, I never entertained the thought. It's weird he's

1438
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 3: off limits, but not because I would never be attracted

1439
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:54,320
Speaker 3: to him or anything.

1440
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 2: He is attractive objectively.

1441
01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:58,560
Speaker 3: Before we were actually friends, my first impression of him

1442
01:02:58,720 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 3: was that he was attractive.

1443
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:02,720
Speaker 2: It's because I don't know or think it would work.

1444
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:04,920
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm just yapping now.

1445
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:07,880
Speaker 3: Another commenter says, not the AO, I don't think Matt

1446
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:12,640
Speaker 3: is into you necessarily. I mean, it's possible, but there's

1447
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:15,439
Speaker 3: no certainty of that, and I wish people would stop

1448
01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:18,880
Speaker 3: suggesting that just because they're of the opposite.

1449
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:19,920
Speaker 2: Genders and best friends.

1450
01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:22,440
Speaker 3: I've had plenty of jealous friends that weren't romantically interested

1451
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:24,880
Speaker 3: in me, and I have been scared of being replaced

1452
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:26,840
Speaker 3: in friendships before, when I was much younger.

1453
01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 2: Opie, maybe plan a day trip with Matt.

1454
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:31,040
Speaker 3: Something that takes a few hours or so to get to,

1455
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 3: so you can go there and back without having to

1456
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:36,200
Speaker 3: get a hotel room in all the rigamarole. Go to

1457
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:38,960
Speaker 3: a city, see some sites, do something fun, eat good food,

1458
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:41,520
Speaker 3: and have an honest talk about the jealousy. Reassure him

1459
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:43,200
Speaker 3: you're not going to disappear or replace him, but you

1460
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:44,840
Speaker 3: have separate lives and that's a good thing.

1461
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:47,320
Speaker 2: It means you'll always have new stories to share.

1462
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:49,680
Speaker 3: Opie says, you know, it's a relief to hear you

1463
01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:52,360
Speaker 3: say that, because I've had the same jealousy over girlfriends

1464
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 3: and I'm completely straight probably lol, and so it's not

1465
01:03:56,400 --> 01:03:59,360
Speaker 3: outlandish that he just feels replaced in a platonic way.

1466
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:02,560
Speaker 2: And there is an update two days after the original post.

1467
01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:06,959
Speaker 4: I think I think he likes you, dude, I think

1468
01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:07,600
Speaker 4: so too.

1469
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:12,080
Speaker 3: No one throws around the term platonically cheating if you're

1470
01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 3: not like so obsessed with that person that you're like,

1471
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:17,560
Speaker 3: I wanted to go me, I won't go on trip

1472
01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:17,919
Speaker 3: with you?

1473
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:22,480
Speaker 4: Me right, maybe just nineteen.

1474
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:26,480
Speaker 5: You're just so young. You're just so young and stupid,

1475
01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:28,680
Speaker 5: both of you. I mean, maybe not up, but it's

1476
01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:29,640
Speaker 5: just like, it's.

1477
01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:30,320
Speaker 4: Just such a no.

1478
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:32,080
Speaker 2: It's a little silly to.

1479
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:36,040
Speaker 5: Be jealous of, Like, you know, your friends hanging out

1480
01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:37,040
Speaker 5: with other friends.

1481
01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:40,720
Speaker 4: That's a stupid thing to do when you're young.

1482
01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:45,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, man, if he's having these feelings, like if he's

1483
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:48,720
Speaker 5: having these strong feelings about wanting to go somewhere special

1484
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:52,320
Speaker 5: with you, it's very possible that it's because.

1485
01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:54,400
Speaker 4: Of more feelings.

1486
01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:57,960
Speaker 3: Indeed, let's let's get to the bottom of this update.

1487
01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:01,560
Speaker 3: Two days after the original post, things are kind of resolved,

1488
01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:04,000
Speaker 3: but also up in the air emotionally. In short, Matt

1489
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:06,200
Speaker 3: came over and it started off pretty heated because I

1490
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 3: was quite mad. I said, he's completely overreacted and it

1491
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:11,680
Speaker 3: was immature of him to ignore me for nearly a week.

1492
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:14,040
Speaker 3: He didn't say much, and he had his head in

1493
01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:15,880
Speaker 3: his hands for a while, which made me go quiet.

1494
01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:18,440
Speaker 2: He kept saying, I know, I know, I'm sorry. I

1495
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:20,760
Speaker 2: feel stupid. So I just came out with.

1496
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:22,400
Speaker 3: It and asked if there were something he needed to

1497
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:24,920
Speaker 3: tell me, because I want to know. At this point,

1498
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:27,440
Speaker 3: I was crying. I was a little riled up, to

1499
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:29,040
Speaker 3: say the least. So he hugged me and said he

1500
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:32,080
Speaker 3: loved me, and he was irrational and jealous. Can't lie.

1501
01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:34,120
Speaker 3: I thought we were going to kiss, but we didn't.

1502
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:35,800
Speaker 3: I don't know what's going on here, but you guys

1503
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:38,200
Speaker 3: weren't crazy. We talked more about why the trip bothered

1504
01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 3: him so much, and he kind of echoed what you

1505
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:42,680
Speaker 3: guys theorized. He felt left behind and said out of

1506
01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:44,560
Speaker 3: all of his friends, I'm the one he values the most,

1507
01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:46,800
Speaker 3: and he'd loved to do something like his first friend

1508
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:49,160
Speaker 3: holiday with me. Neither of us are that well off

1509
01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:51,160
Speaker 3: and have only been on a handful of trips with

1510
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:52,120
Speaker 3: family when younger.

1511
01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:53,440
Speaker 2: Clearly they like each other.

1512
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:57,280
Speaker 3: Go you want to kiss him, Maybe talk about that,

1513
01:05:57,880 --> 01:06:02,880
Speaker 3: Maybe talk about that then maybe kiss afterwards. Yeah, maybe

1514
01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:06,680
Speaker 3: I can't lie. I was very nervous, very emotional. I

1515
01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:08,720
Speaker 3: didn't want to push it by asking explicitly if he

1516
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:09,440
Speaker 3: had a crush on me.

1517
01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:11,160
Speaker 2: But I do acknowledge that the way we act with

1518
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:11,720
Speaker 2: each other.

1519
01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:15,240
Speaker 3: Like wanting to kiss, is a little more than holy platonic.

1520
01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:18,000
Speaker 3: Maybe it's just one of those loves where you'll always

1521
01:06:18,040 --> 01:06:21,240
Speaker 3: have that attachment, but I need not materialize into a

1522
01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:22,240
Speaker 3: romantic relationship.

1523
01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:22,560
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1524
01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:24,880
Speaker 3: I'm still confused anyway. I think he was a bit

1525
01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:28,040
Speaker 3: immature at best, you could argue slightly possessive at worst.

1526
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:31,080
Speaker 3: He said that when he said platonic cheater, it was ironic,

1527
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:36,040
Speaker 3: which explains the theoretical wording or theatrical wording, but the

1528
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:38,920
Speaker 3: jealousy was obviously real. We laughed about it a bit,

1529
01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:45,320
Speaker 3: and we enjoyed some some leafy greens. I think we're okay.

1530
01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:47,400
Speaker 3: I mean, i'd love to hear your takes.

1531
01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:50,040
Speaker 2: I don't know. Someone will say I'm in denial. Haha,

1532
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:53,400
Speaker 2: you are, y'all needed you guys gotta talk about that.

1533
01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:55,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, it started off annoying, but now I think it's

1534
01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:57,600
Speaker 5: kind of cute. I think you both like each other.

1535
01:06:57,960 --> 01:07:00,680
Speaker 5: It's kind of cute. It's silly that he said that

1536
01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:05,360
Speaker 5: that was ironic, saying like a platonic cheater, but then

1537
01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:07,280
Speaker 5: hung up after you laughed.

1538
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:09,240
Speaker 2: At that, like, yeah that wasn't ironic, dude.

1539
01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 4: You were mad, yeah, upset, Yeah, you.

1540
01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:15,080
Speaker 5: Just wanted to I think he just wanted to be like, Oh,

1541
01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:17,120
Speaker 5: it feels like you're cheating on me, but like but

1542
01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:18,480
Speaker 5: like we're just friends though, like I.

1543
01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:21,360
Speaker 4: Promise, So yeah, I was in it platonically, but it's like.

1544
01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:23,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, if we were dating, I would think this was cheating.

1545
01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:27,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you're nineteen, so you're like, I don't know

1546
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:28,760
Speaker 3: how to crush on her.

1547
01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:29,640
Speaker 2: What am I gonna do?

1548
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:33,200
Speaker 5: Just hold hands already, Just go on long walks on

1549
01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:35,480
Speaker 5: the beach already, Come on, hold hands