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Speaker 1: Oh, Steve Tasker, touch down, touch down, down time. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the show. Everybody, One Builds Live from One Builds Drive.

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Speaker 1: I'm Steve Tasker. Murph has the day off today. I'm

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Speaker 1: joined by my bud, Joe Viscallia from Channel seven and

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Speaker 1: also Lorenzo Alexanders join us. They don't want to take

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Speaker 1: the training wheels off me right on my first show,

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Speaker 1: so I can't. They can't bring just anybody in there.

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Speaker 1: They gonna bring the whole tribe in. Marenzio, thanks for

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Speaker 1: being in. Oh yeah, my pleasure. I was up here

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Speaker 1: getting a little physical therapy and so you've a little

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Speaker 1: walk on. You didn't have to come in just for

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Speaker 1: us and Joe. You did have to come in just

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Speaker 1: for I did. Otherwise the show would have come crashing down. Well,

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Speaker 1: I believe in you. I don't know. I don't know

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Speaker 1: about everybody else, but I believe I appreciate that. That's nice.

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Speaker 1: You're ot as you're feeling good. I mean, yeah, you

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Speaker 1: guys actually worked this week. So yeah, I got on

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Speaker 1: the field, did some drills. Obviously, start competing one another,

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Speaker 1: you know. So it's the first week is always I

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Speaker 1: think more intense than it needs to because you obviously

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Speaker 1: have a mixture of young guys, Vedoran guys, guys trying

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Speaker 1: to make the team, and I think there's a misconception

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Speaker 1: sometimes that you make the team, you know, in OTA's

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Speaker 1: you really, you know, just get your feet wet and

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Speaker 1: understand the foundation and you really have to learn how

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Speaker 1: to practice without pads on. I think it's the biggest thing.

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Speaker 1: But it was competitive. I think the coaches were happy

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Speaker 1: where where we're at and just want to continue to

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Speaker 1: move forward and not have any more injuries that we

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Speaker 1: sufferlighted this first week, right, So yeah, Well, so we're

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Speaker 1: gonna be here from noon till three. Lorenzo is gonna

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Speaker 1: be here for the first segment here at first half

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Speaker 1: hour of the show, or so Joe, you're here in

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Speaker 1: for the duration. We're gonna talk about a lot of stuff.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk to you, Lorenzo obviously about OTAs. We've

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Speaker 1: got a Twitter poll that we're gonna throw at ye.

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Speaker 1: It's already up and running. If you want to call

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Speaker 1: in and get on the in on the show, talk

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Speaker 1: to Lorenzo or Joe or me. You can call us

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Speaker 1: an eight or three oh five fifty or one eight eight,

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Speaker 1: five fifty two, five fifty, or you can tweet at

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Speaker 1: us at one. Bill's Live, got a lot going on,

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Speaker 1: Lorenzo's in today, Joe's in today. We've got a lot

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Speaker 1: of stuff around the league that are happening, and really

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Speaker 1: just kind of winding up a week that you kind

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Speaker 1: of turned the page. I mean, you guys have turned

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Speaker 1: the page, or you're already thinking way out ahead of

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Speaker 1: this next year. For fans, they're still thinking, you know about,

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Speaker 1: you know, how the season was, who the new guys

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Speaker 1: are and all out. You guys have already started to

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Speaker 1: new team. Yeah, yeah, I mean, obviously we've had a

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Speaker 1: little over what five or six weeks, which seems like forever.

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Speaker 1: You see guys every single day working out. So all

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Speaker 1: the guys that you know, you bringing Andre Roberts, John Brown,

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Speaker 1: it really feels, you know, I really feel like I

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Speaker 1: think that's the cool thing about professional sports that the

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Speaker 1: your friendships and building a relation ship in the hyper drive.

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Speaker 1: And you probably can contest to that. You know, being

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Speaker 1: in the locker room for many years, just how fast

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Speaker 1: you know that bond comes together because you come from

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Speaker 1: like to me and Joe, you can speak to this.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, thanks, you haven't had a chance

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Speaker 1: Pretty soon. It's like you've known the kids you went

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Speaker 1: all this money, I'm this and that I'm kind of

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Speaker 1: a breath of fresh air of getting to know these guys.

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Speaker 1: And for me, I've actually played with several of these

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Speaker 1: my team in the NFL multiple times, and you gained

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Speaker 1: a respect and the knowledge of who they are and

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Speaker 1: just backs up everything that I've heard about them as

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Speaker 1: Hughes resigning. That's kind of cool, right, Yeah. He's one

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Speaker 1: into the coach in the direction and it's produced on

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Speaker 1: Jerry is a testimony to rewarding guys that do things

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Speaker 1: the right way and doing the things the way we

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Speaker 1: I'm very happy for him and his family. I mean, obviously,

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Speaker 1: can you speak because his sack statistics aren't always yeah,

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Speaker 1: no way a true testament to the value of the

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Speaker 1: him through two thousand for anyone, am I right? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Jerry Hughes is probably if he's not number one, he's

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Speaker 1: That is disruptive and attacking the quarterback, so that's getting sacks,

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Speaker 1: I mean he's getting chipped, its sliding and protection to him.

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Speaker 1: to One Bill's Life from One Bill's Drive. We're here

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Speaker 1: with Lorenzo Alexander. Joe b is in for John Murphy

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Speaker 1: this week. Murphy is not today, Not this week, Um

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Speaker 1: He's definitely bigger and stronger. I think this year he's

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Speaker 1: actually our strength. Staff does a great job of pairing

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Speaker 1: if you ever see Julian Stafford walking around here, he

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Speaker 1: think they strategically put Matt alongside of him just to

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Speaker 1: Tremaine and see really what those guys do for a

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Speaker 1: It just he just settled in. It just it just

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Speaker 1: seen a lot of players go through, what what is

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Speaker 1: this guy's potential? What what can he be in that

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Speaker 1: very his football IQ is very high, and he's made

429
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Speaker 1: some adjustments just me watching sitting back and and some

430
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Speaker 1: of the things and adjustments that he's making anticipating routes

431
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Speaker 1: and how the offenses attacking him. Um, it is kind

432
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Speaker 1: of beyond his years in a lot of ways. But

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Speaker 1: I don't really think he's a secret either. I mean

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Speaker 1: when you say that, are you are we talking about

435
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Speaker 1: national attention, like the whole league knowing about him or players?

436
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Speaker 1: Because guys, whoever turns on that film and has evaluated

437
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Speaker 1: games or are we getting ready for the Buffalo Bills

438
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Speaker 1: defense this week? I mean they I don't even know

439
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Speaker 1: what number he is now he was, Yeah, yeah, he's

440
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Speaker 1: thirty nine. I like the forty seven. I don't know

441
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Speaker 1: why he didn't keep it, but um, they turn on

442
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Speaker 1: that and see forty seven from last year. They know

443
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Speaker 1: who he is nationally, just like Matt Milano. Right. I

444
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Speaker 1: don't think they're known just because we don't get a

445
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Speaker 1: lot of national tension in Buffalo, but people that play us,

446
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Speaker 1: they know who those two guys are, right, I think

447
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Speaker 1: that's what it is national it's national appreciation kind of

448
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Speaker 1: on a large SCA is getting there. Well, Matt Malonal's

449
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Speaker 1: on that. If you want to, if you have an

450
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Speaker 1: opinion about it, you can call us at eight or

451
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Speaker 1: three or five fifty ye or tweet at us at

452
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Speaker 1: one Bills Live. Who do you think the best kept

453
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Speaker 1: secret on the Buffalo Bills roster is or will be in?

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Speaker 1: And one of the things I was gonna mentioned too

455
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Speaker 1: is he said about Levi Wallace and that's I guess

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Speaker 1: I'm taking it that's your guy, right, that both of

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Speaker 1: you think it's Levi Wallas on our list? I'm on

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Speaker 1: Matt Milano back. Well, okay, all right, so listen and

459
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Speaker 1: now you can go either way. I feel bad doing that.

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Speaker 1: My my point about it is you mentioned Levi Wallace

461
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Speaker 1: having a high football like you, and I was always

462
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Speaker 1: this and this is one of the things why the

463
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Speaker 1: culture here they're trying to build a one. Bill's drive

464
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Speaker 1: is important and it was kind of important back, was

465
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Speaker 1: very important back when I played, you know, thirty years ago.

466
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Speaker 1: When you get smart guys on your roster, they always

467
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Speaker 1: tend to improve, right whatever year it is for them,

468
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Speaker 1: whether it's the fourteenth year they're trying to work on

469
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Speaker 1: some things they're trying to maintain and get better, or

470
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Speaker 1: whether it's their first year and they can take leaps

471
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Speaker 1: and bounds because of their experience level. Smart guys always

472
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Speaker 1: get better, and that's why you that's why they give

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Speaker 1: them intelligence tests, that's why they check them out, and

474
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Speaker 1: that's why they talk to them. And guys who don't

475
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Speaker 1: pass those tests, or don't do well or don't seem

476
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Speaker 1: to be, you know, great athletes, or for whatever reason

477
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Speaker 1: don't don't come across. Those are the those in year ten,

478
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Speaker 1: if they can make it to year ten, will be

479
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Speaker 1: the same guy. Right, they will be as great as

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Speaker 1: they could be. They're not going to be evolved into

481
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Speaker 1: something great or better. But what they are on draft

482
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Speaker 1: day is what you're gonna get. Yeah. And a lot

483
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Speaker 1: of that comes to self awareness, right, And I think

484
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Speaker 1: that's what it boils down to. Smart guys. You know

485
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Speaker 1: a little bit, You kind of think through a lot

486
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Speaker 1: of things. Where are my week at? And you kind of, okay,

487
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Speaker 1: this is where I need to improve, where some guys

488
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Speaker 1: may Okay, I'm talented, I'm getting the job is getting done,

489
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Speaker 1: so I don't really need to think about nothing, you know,

490
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Speaker 1: whether I succeed or not. And I think Levi is

491
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Speaker 1: a lot like this. I'm still trying to fa Okay,

492
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Speaker 1: well because I've done that a little bit better, or Okay,

493
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Speaker 1: where are they gonna attack me next week? That I

494
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Speaker 1: showed because I showed this how they're gonna attack me

495
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Speaker 1: next week? And I think that's how Levi is ahead

496
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Speaker 1: of the game. Because let's say one week he jumps

497
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Speaker 1: on the ball, he jumps a slant boom, great play,

498
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Speaker 1: very stectual because they lined up X was nasty or

499
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Speaker 1: or the X had a cup split. That team showed

500
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Speaker 1: it well, next week he's thinking, well, I just jumped

501
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Speaker 1: that they're probably gonna double move me next week, and

502
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Speaker 1: then maybe he's not. Then he's making that play, breaking

503
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Speaker 1: that deep ball down the field. And that's what I

504
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Speaker 1: think smart self aware players are able to do and grow.

505
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Speaker 1: And you do that in every asset of the game,

506
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Speaker 1: which Steve was just mentioned it and that's why he

507
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Speaker 1: heathero fleeps in bounds and you're not, and you're a

508
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Speaker 1: totally different player than what people may aspect you have become.

509
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Speaker 1: There have been a couple of guys we've spoken about

510
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Speaker 1: too that have gotten bigger and stronger. Le does he fall?

511
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Speaker 1: And I haven't even laid eyes on the guy. Yeah,

512
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Speaker 1: he Yeah, he's definitely stronger. I think he works out

513
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Speaker 1: with with Um pitsy Um Lafayette so and and Lafayette.

514
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Speaker 1: I mean he lifts like he's a D tackle right,

515
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Speaker 1: he's strong too, and he's a dB and so. Like

516
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Speaker 1: I said, they are very strategic because you know, guys,

517
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Speaker 1: you work out, Okay, that's enough way, but if you're

518
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Speaker 1: working out against another guy, he's throwing up. So man,

519
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Speaker 1: I need to put a little bit more because he

520
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Speaker 1: becomes a competition in the sense in there. That's a

521
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Speaker 1: paradigm because we go in you work out. We used

522
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Speaker 1: to decide who we're gonna work out with, you with

523
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Speaker 1: your friend, where it is, and your schedule is the same. Yep,

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Speaker 1: you're telling me the bills training guys. Listen, by the way,

525
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Speaker 1: here's your workout part. You're working out this guy. Yeah,

526
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Speaker 1: so they you know, you go into the weight room

527
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Speaker 1: and Seattle calls out the three guys you're working out with,

528
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Speaker 1: and a lot of times, you know, as I've noticed,

529
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Speaker 1: when my first guy here, I just grabbed my sheet.

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Speaker 1: But as I as I noticed, it's it's strategic. He

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Speaker 1: he totally has guys that may be not mature enough

532
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Speaker 1: or don't know how to lift the right way. He

533
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Speaker 1: may put you with like a rookie with me, or

534
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Speaker 1: he may put a guy like Matt Milone on Julians

535
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Speaker 1: and Julian together that are compatible, but Julian is a

536
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Speaker 1: little bit more I think weight room savvy and so mad.

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Speaker 1: It kind of gravitates and okay, I could do a

538
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Speaker 1: little bit more than what I'm doing. Not that Matt

539
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Speaker 1: Milonna wasn't doing it, but I think he could push

540
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Speaker 1: yourself just to pass that line red lined himself a

541
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Speaker 1: little bit more and get a little bit more growth.

542
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Speaker 1: And they do that with various guys through various positions,

543
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Speaker 1: which I think is very smart. What's your pairing. I'm

544
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Speaker 1: kind of soul. I'm a roamer but normally, but normal

545
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Speaker 1: I'm with Matt and Julian, but sometimes I'm with some

546
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Speaker 1: old line. It depends on what the lift is, because

547
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Speaker 1: I lift like I like I used to be a

548
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Speaker 1: d tackle, which I which I was at one time. Sure,

549
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Speaker 1: so sometimes I may have shack in my group. It

550
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Speaker 1: just depends on. Sometimes I maybe with Matt and Julian.

551
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Speaker 1: And I just wanted to say, I mean, you you

552
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Speaker 1: spoke a little bit ago about the evolution that you

553
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Speaker 1: have to continue to evolve as an NFL player at

554
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Speaker 1: wise you're gonna get left in the dust. And you

555
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Speaker 1: were like the picture of that scene as how you

556
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Speaker 1: started at one position, went moved to another position, and

557
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Speaker 1: now now you're a strong side linebacker slash pass rusher.

558
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Speaker 1: I mean, what what do you have to look within

559
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Speaker 1: to find that and find find that out about yourself

560
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Speaker 1: to where you you have to evolve and otherwise you're out.

561
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Speaker 1: Well for me, it was forced, I mean it was

562
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Speaker 1: kind of the writing was on the wall when when

563
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Speaker 1: coaches started moving your position. You know, that means they

564
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Speaker 1: like you because they're not just cutting you and getting away,

565
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Speaker 1: but they're trying to find a spot for you to be.

566
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Speaker 1: And I know I had to be Um, I had

567
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Speaker 1: to let my ego go because if I didn't, if

568
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Speaker 1: I was very resistant to that, then I definitely would

569
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Speaker 1: have been out. And so it just some again, some

570
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Speaker 1: self awareness and being aware of what's going around you.

571
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Speaker 1: And it's not it's not that you're it's not because

572
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Speaker 1: they don't like you. It's because they do like you

573
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Speaker 1: and they're trying to find a fit for you. So

574
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Speaker 1: it's all about perspective. And so I've been blessed enough

575
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Speaker 1: to have people around me to help me understand that,

576
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Speaker 1: you know, talking to some veterans, you know, I always

577
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Speaker 1: mentioned like London Fletcher, Um, you know, I play with

578
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Speaker 1: Princey Buckton when I was in Carolina, Larry Fitzgerald. So

579
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Speaker 1: talking to guys that have been aroun it for a

580
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Speaker 1: long time, Uh, you know, why do you think they

581
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Speaker 1: keep moving me? You know, and instead of saying because

582
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Speaker 1: you're not good enough, well, they really like you and

583
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Speaker 1: they want you to fit somewhere, you know, so it's

584
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Speaker 1: more buy in versus they're trying. They're trying to do

585
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Speaker 1: you wrong and they want to get you out of here.

586
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 1: They don't want you to do well. You know. See

587
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 1: how that that's just a different perspective and approach from

588
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Speaker 1: the player's perspective to where Okay, I'm a buy in

589
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 1: because they want me here, so let me figure out

590
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 1: how I can improve, versus they trying to do me dirty,

591
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 1: and so that I think that was key for me.

592
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Speaker 1: Is that a problem for some guys letting go of

593
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 1: that ego? It is? I mean, because if you've done something,

594
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,120
Speaker 1: you know for so long, really, you know, most guys

595
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Speaker 1: probably play from when they're probably between the ages of

596
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Speaker 1: five and eight, you know, and then you're in college

597
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 1: and if you come out earlier, let's say you're twenty,

598
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Speaker 1: so I mean that's twelve to you know, fifteen years

599
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Speaker 1: if you playing one position at a very high level,

600
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Speaker 1: being the starter, being the guy making all the plays,

601
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Speaker 1: and now you get to a level to say, in

602
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Speaker 1: regardless of you're getting paid or not, I actually want

603
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Speaker 1: you to do this. I think I think I see

604
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Speaker 1: something that you might be better over here. That's that's hard.

605
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Speaker 1: I mean that's hard. What this is, this is out,

606
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,919
Speaker 1: this is out of my my box. And constantly when

607
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 1: they put guys say listen, we need you to cover kicks. Yeah,

608
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:14,120
Speaker 1: like that special team is the biggest way. Yeah, because

609
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 1: because you know when you're in college or whatever, you

610
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,479
Speaker 1: know the walk ons cover kicks. It's a perception. It's

611
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 1: a perception, right, and they kind of have the trouble

612
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 1: putting themselves in that in that spot. And what Sean

613
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Speaker 1: has done is actually spoke to that, and it's more

614
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Speaker 1: of a work while you wait. You may not be

615
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Speaker 1: good enough to be the starter right now, because if

616
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Speaker 1: you're a corner, ain't no, I don't think nobody's moving

617
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Speaker 1: with your davits oude. If you're a rookie corner right now,

618
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Speaker 1: and let's say you are undraft or a six pick,

619
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Speaker 1: maybe maybe you well we'll see, but maybe I don't

620
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Speaker 1: think so. Right, So, if you want to have a

621
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 1: position on this team, you need to get out there,

622
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,159
Speaker 1: play special teams. Doesn't mean that you're not good enough

623
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 1: to play in this league, but work while you wait

624
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 1: and then make the coaches play you. That's what I

625
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 1: always telling young guys, you go out there and make

626
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 1: some plays on kickoff and knocking cats out and making plays.

627
00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 1: Coaches want ballers on the field. They're gonna maybe create

628
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 1: the package or you know, maybe you rotate in or

629
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Speaker 1: maybe you play Buffalo this week or nicol but they're

630
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 1: gonna find a way to get you to where you

631
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Speaker 1: want to be. So we talked about did this exact

632
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:13,360
Speaker 1: thing Matt Milano. Yeah, he special teams falling out yep.

633
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Speaker 1: And then once I think once Ramone went down with her, Yeah,

634
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 1: and then he came in. Ramone went in for the

635
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 1: starting line up for a little bit and then they

636
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,879
Speaker 1: made the switch. Yeah, I mean, that's that's what happens.

637
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 1: Joe Pascalia, Steve Tasker along with Lorenzo. Lorenzo, thanks for

638
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 1: coming in today. He got got big plans for the weekend. Yeah,

639
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Speaker 1: my friend is coming down. Chris Wilson played with him

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Speaker 1: and the Risks for about five years, him and his family.

641
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Speaker 1: And then Sunday be barbecue at the house. I got

642
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Speaker 1: my kids. I guess that's my little one kind of

643
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 1: off right back here hanging out. Yeah. Yeah, Lorenzo, thanks

644
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Speaker 1: appreciate you appreciate you have a great weekend. You're listening

645
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Speaker 1: to Joe Pascalia, Steve Tasker and One Bills Live. We're

646
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Speaker 1: here from noon till three. We'll be back. We're gonna

647
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Speaker 1: talk a little bit about the fifty three way way

648
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 1: way too early, fifty three man roster. We're gonna have

649
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Speaker 1: seven observations from the first week of OTA's talking about

650
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Speaker 1: what Joe's doing at WKBW and more so stick with us.

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Speaker 1: This is one of Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Health

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Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive and this is Buffalo Bill's Radio

653
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Speaker 1: back to One Bill's Lives, Chief task along with Joe Biscalier,

654
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 1: Murph's got the day off. We've been talking about the

655
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 1: OTAs Lorenzo Alexander, who was on for the first half

656
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Speaker 1: hour of the show, gave us his observation, it's mostly

657
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 1: about the defensive guys. Great perspective. Yeah, he's got great

658
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 1: perspective about how guys can make it. And at this

659
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: time of year, it's all about you guys forget it,

660
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 1: you know, especially the young guys. They don't get that.

661
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 1: It's about getting on the team and staying here any

662
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 1: way you can. And it's I've said this to really

663
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 1: young guys like in colleges and stuff. I say, you know,

664
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Speaker 1: the guys will say, man, i'll do anything to make

665
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 1: it in the NFL. I'll do anything to make me up.

666
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 1: The minute they get here, they say, well, we want

667
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 1: you to cover kicks. He why ain't doing that right right?

668
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 1: It's like they're like, I'll do anything. I'll do anything

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00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 1: except I'll do anything except cover kicks. I'll do anything

670
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Speaker 1: except play special teams. I'll do anything except you know,

671
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Speaker 1: block right right, So you know it sounds crazy, but

672
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 1: it's true. Yeah, and it really is true. I hear

673
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 1: you there. And I think you have to also be

674
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Speaker 1: careful this time of year in falling for fool's gold,

675
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Speaker 1: because I can't tell you how many times we've seen

676
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:28,719
Speaker 1: OTA player X look great for practice upon practice perfect

677
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 1: example des Lewis. Des Lewis won the Super Bowl of

678
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 1: OTAs almost every single year, and then once they got

679
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 1: to training camp, he could never really transition once they

680
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Speaker 1: put the pads on. But this is also a time

681
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Speaker 1: of year where you can identify guys that maybe weren't

682
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Speaker 1: on your radar to to come up and be something

683
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 1: that that you weren't expecting them to. And two guys

684
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 1: come to mind most most prominently, one being Stevie Johnson.

685
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Speaker 1: I remember his rookie year. I think it was two

686
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 1: ten if if I'm correct, nine or ten one or

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Speaker 1: the other. But I remember him coming in OTAs and

688
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 1: I remember him like shaking down good cornerbacks on the team,

689
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 1: and I'm like, WHOA this guy, this guy can play,

690
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 1: And then he started moving up the depth chart. He

691
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 1: got hurt a little bit in training camp, but you

692
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 1: could tell right away that he was someone that could

693
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Speaker 1: contribute if he if he worked hard at it, and

694
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 1: he eventually did, he could find a niche for it

695
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 1: exactly the other one Nickel Robie Coleman. I mean, he

696
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 1: was an All star during OTAs and then that pushed

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Speaker 1: him up into the first or second team at Nickel

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Speaker 1: his rookie year, and then he eventually takes over that

699
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Speaker 1: job in his rookie season as an undrafted guy. So

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Speaker 1: it's not as though it's crazy to think that good

701
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: performances can don't yield success always, but sometimes you do

702
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Speaker 1: fall for the trap, and I have fallen for the

703
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: trap a few times. But there are guys out there

704
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Speaker 1: who are athletically gifted enough to play in the NFL,

705
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 1: but for whatever reason, they were just lower level football.

706
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,239
Speaker 1: Their IQ isn't that isn't where it should. They got

707
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 1: issues off the field, but whatever it is. But you

708
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 1: get him in the right spot and they turn into

709
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 1: they gotta they work hard at it turned out to

710
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 1: be really sharp guys and kind of get that self

711
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Speaker 1: aworries thing like I gotta do anything I can to

712
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Speaker 1: survive on this roster. And you get these guys like

713
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Speaker 1: Nickel Roby. Coleman his junior is the all time great

714
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 1: example of this because nobody I was like, what's his name? Right? Right?

715
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: It Wasnkel Roby. Then he right, and never's like who

716
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 1: is it? And it's one of those guys like, okay,

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Speaker 1: he's on the list of the last three guys. He's

718
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 1: gonna get cut, right and all this said, it's like,

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Speaker 1: well he played, he can't cut him right rights. They

720
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Speaker 1: made a couple of plays, well, all right, so let's

721
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Speaker 1: do it. So not only did not cut him, they

722
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Speaker 1: move him ahead of this other guy right or whatever

723
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 1: whoever was. Now he's in there, he keeps making plays.

724
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Speaker 1: So those kind of guys continually are the ones that

725
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 1: that are the fun guys to watch. You know the

726
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 1: ones you root for because you know they didn't get

727
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 1: at all that golden opportunity handed to him because of whatever.

728
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 1: I wonder how long, and you could probably speak to this,

729
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 1: I wonder how long it takes for some of these

730
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Speaker 1: guys for it to click in that they have to

731
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 1: or get their college identity. If if they're not like

732
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Speaker 1: first second, third round pick guy, and and they're they're

733
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 1: a Day three or undrafted type, I wonder how long

734
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 1: it takes for them to go all right, I just

735
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 1: have to suck it up and do what is best

736
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Speaker 1: for the team, because I'm sure there's a there's a

737
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 1: moment for a lot of these guys where it's like, well,

738
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: they've got me playing special teams. I'm I'm on the

739
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Speaker 1: third string. What to your point? I mean, what what

740
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: is that like? It's a totally individual thing. There's no

741
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 1: generalizing it. Um, it's different for every guy, absolutely, because

742
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 1: you get in there and you start hearing guys talk

743
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 1: about it in the locker room. So yeah, they got

744
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 1: me on that, and they and the attitude they display

745
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:40,719
Speaker 1: towards it. Guys who have been in the league who

746
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 1: you think, well, he's still here, how you know what's

747
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 1: the deal. He goes, well, you got to do you know,

748
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: And you hear them talking about it, and you think, well, okay,

749
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: how willing are you to do something different that you

750
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: may not be familiar with in order to give yourself

751
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: You've got to be convinced it's going to give you

752
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 1: a better chance to stick stick around and if if

753
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 1: you can cons the guy of that. And for me,

754
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 1: this was crazy. Coaches would never for a long time.

755
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 1: I think maybe they they're more willing to do it now.

756
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 1: Coaches just come up and say, listen, you are not

757
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 1: gonna make this team unless you can play special teams.

758
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:16,800
Speaker 1: You're you're gonna get cut. And some guys say, you

759
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 1: ain't your kid. You know, I ain't gonna have right

760
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 1: And a lot of times they wouldn't even say that

761
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 1: to you. They just expect you to understand it. They

762
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 1: expect you to pick up on that. They don't cut it.

763
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,399
Speaker 1: They don't make it cut and dried like that. Right. Um,

764
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 1: I gotta say, listen, as long as you don't make mistakes,

765
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 1: you got a chance. So that became my focus for

766
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 1: a while. You know, I'm I gotta can't make mistakes,

767
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 1: you know, forget it, you know, because I didn't really

768
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 1: before that. I thought, Man, I don't know if I'm

769
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 1: a good enough athlete. You know, I don't know if

770
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,879
Speaker 1: I'm a good enough jumper catcher or route runner or whatever.

771
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 1: He goes, Listen, if you don't make mistakes, you got

772
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 1: a chance to make it. And I was, and that

773
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 1: was a coach that took tom I was like, oh yeah,

774
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 1: no pressure, right right right. But by the same token,

775
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 1: I thought, well, okay, then I guess if I not

776
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 1: make a mistakes, at least I'm a good enough guy,

777
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: fast enough runof all of that. So all that goes

778
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 1: into it. Well, there's here's another thing I've always been

779
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 1: wondering because you know, a lot of times when you

780
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: talk to the players that are in the situation, they

781
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: won't really give you a straight answer. But since since

782
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 1: you're now removed from it, what is there just a

783
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: constant depth chart counting and like roster counting by by guys?

784
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 1: Is it inside that head in their brain? They might

785
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,800
Speaker 1: not talk about it, but it's always there. You're always

786
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 1: value After every rep in practice, you go back and

787
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 1: you look at the guys that are in your group.

788
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 1: It's human nature and the guys that are ahead of

789
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 1: you and behind you, and where you where you place

790
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 1: yourself and I and the accuracy of that is is

791
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: paramount to your ability to be honest with yourself. Right.

792
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 1: You've got to know that. Listen, I'm not getting Listen.

793
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 1: They're not gonna put me ahead of this guy, even

794
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 1: if I think I'm better than him. They're not putting

795
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 1: me ahead of that guy. Um, because he's got too

796
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 1: much experience. He knows, you know, they can depend on him.

797
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 1: They've proven he knows when to pick up the blitz,

798
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 1: he knows when to do the sight read. He knows

799
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 1: that you know, he's got all that stuff. Right. There

800
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 1: might be a bunch of guys like I know this guy,

801
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 1: he he can't even run a route, right, I'm okay

802
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,399
Speaker 1: with him, right. And this guy, you know this guy,

803
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 1: I'm just fast and I'm a better athlete to him.

804
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:12,839
Speaker 1: You know this guy, he's probably got better hands than

805
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 1: I do. But he makes mistake after mistake after you

806
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 1: know that kind of thing. So you do you and

807
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:20,839
Speaker 1: then too, And I say this all the time. People

808
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,439
Speaker 1: have heard me say this a billion times. You ride

809
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 1: the emotional roller coaster of being going from I am

810
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 1: going to be all pro my rookie season too. They're

811
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:35,320
Speaker 1: gonna cut me maybe before practice is over, I could imagine,

812
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 1: and it's a few mistakes build up, and then it

813
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 1: just permeates in your mind. It's the thing that people

814
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,800
Speaker 1: don't believe when I say, if they think I'm exaggerating that,

815
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 1: the simple fact of the matter is when I think

816
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be all pro, I believe it. It is true.

817
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 1: I think, man, oh man, I did it, and literally

818
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: a minute later, I totally believe I am done. I

819
00:36:57,719 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 1: am never gonna put on another helmet. There's a range

820
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 1: of they're gonna put their hand hand on my shoulder

821
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:03,320
Speaker 1: and say, hey, kid, caimer, I need to talk to you,

822
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 1: and that's gonna be it. And you go from one

823
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:09,320
Speaker 1: hundred percent positive to one hundred percent negative and you

824
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: and it's constant up down, up, down, up down, depending

825
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,839
Speaker 1: on what you just did, what conversation, even a conversation

826
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 1: with a coach, even an interaction with a with an

827
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 1: established player, a good rep, a bad rep, a catch miss.

828
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 1: It's it's you ride that roller coaster because your you

829
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 1: feel like your whole life depends on how you're going

830
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:31,839
Speaker 1: to do with this. Yeah, and that's why crazy, that's

831
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 1: wild because going to the Bills team this year, I mean,

832
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 1: they have so many more pieces that they've added in

833
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 1: free agency and what have you, some talented pieces. And now,

834
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,800
Speaker 1: whereas last year we saw a lot of these younger

835
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 1: guys getting chances to actually initially crack the roster, it

836
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 1: seems like there's just so much more talent, so much

837
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 1: more competition, and the fifty three man rosters is going

838
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: to be tough to crack for a lot of these

839
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 1: even late round draft picks, which speak your point, which

840
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: is why why you always have to kind of gage

841
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 1: yourself about where everybody is. I go round and around

842
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: with this and and I've we've gone, and we're gonna

843
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 1: go over your your your projections for the fifty three

844
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 1: men in this you know this at May, so I'm

845
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 1: gonna cut you some slack. You probably won't get out

846
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 1: fifty two. I was like, Wow, it was really good.

847
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 1: It was pure. But you're right, it's early, but you

848
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 1: do have some guys you know about and and you're

849
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 1: right too, and this this is starting to remind me.

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Speaker 1: Although without the history behind it, this roster is to

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Speaker 1: a point where they're gonna release some football players that

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Speaker 1: this organization, this GM, this head coach, is, coaching staff,

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Speaker 1: they've invested some things on a third round draft pick,

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Speaker 1: a second round draft pick of you know, a high

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Speaker 1: price free agent of a year or two ago. They're

856
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Speaker 1: gonna let some guys go that this regime brought in

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Speaker 1: with high hopes and have some investment in, and they're

858
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Speaker 1: gonna say, you know what, this guy's better. But as

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Speaker 1: you heard Lorenzo say, it doesn't really matter because every

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Speaker 1: guy they've got in except for the four he mentioned,

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Speaker 1: everybody else is their guy too. So this is gonna

862
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Speaker 1: be a much more difficult roster to make. Yes, and

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Speaker 1: they're gonna release some football players that, I think for

864
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Speaker 1: the first time. You'd see it once in a while

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Speaker 1: around here at position groups and cornerback once in a

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Speaker 1: while or whatever what have. You can picked the position

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Speaker 1: group you want where maybe there's one or two guys

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Speaker 1: that you maybe might get picked up by another team.

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Speaker 1: Now you've got multiple players around the roster that other

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Speaker 1: teams are going to be circling around like vultures waiting

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Speaker 1: for the final cuts. Yeah, I think there was only

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Speaker 1: a couple last year. I think Mike Butcker was one

873
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,839
Speaker 1: and he ended up back here. I think Kansas City

874
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Speaker 1: picked him up. And then Adam Redman the center, he

875
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 1: got picked up by Dallas and ended up staying with

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00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 1: them the entire year. And so yeah, you're absolutely right.

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00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 1: This is a much better team. And you see it

878
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 1: just by going through and watching the OTAs. You can

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00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 1: see the talent on the field. You can see the

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Speaker 1: fact that they now go perhaps six deep at cornerback,

881
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Speaker 1: which was not the case whatsoever last year. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Ryan Lewis at one point started for them last year.

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Speaker 1: This year he was a third stringer in that OTA

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Speaker 1: that I was able to watch on Tuesday. And then

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Speaker 1: you look at the competition. We brought up Levi Wallace

886
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Speaker 1: last segment, Levi Wallace going up against guys like Kevin

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Speaker 1: Johnson and E. J. Gaines, two guys that have both

888
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Speaker 1: started in this league. So it's there. There are so

889
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Speaker 1: many different little side conversations to have about this roster

890
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 1: because it's just that much more talented. You're with Joe

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00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 1: Scalia Steve Tasker on One Bills Live from a One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Drive presented by Khalid to health. We're gonna be back,

893
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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about some observations from OTAs. We're gonna

894
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Speaker 1: reset the conversation, and if you want to get in

895
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Speaker 1: on the conversation, you can call us at eight eight

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Speaker 1: eight five fifty two five fifty year or eight oh

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Speaker 1: three oh five fifty Who's the best kept secret on

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bill's roster. You can chime in at one

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Speaker 1: Bills Live if you like. But for right now, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna take a break. We'll be right back after this.

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Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bill's Radio, One Bills Live. Welcome back

902
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 1: to One Bill's Live. Steve Task along with Joe Biscali. You.

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Speaker 1: Murph is off for this Friday. We're not gonna have

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Speaker 1: a show on Monday, but you can tune into gr

905
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Speaker 1: AND and MSG and entertain yourself with whatever else is

906
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 1: on Murph and I'll be back on Tuesday after the

907
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Speaker 1: holiday weekend. You've got big plans for the holiday weekend.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I don't. I'm working on Monday. Wow. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: stinks for you, Ye dedicated to the currec dic aided

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Speaker 1: to the crowd. It's ota time a year man. Good

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00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:43,800
Speaker 1: for you. That's your friend. That's right. We also have

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00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 1: a Twitter pulled out there you're listening to one Bill's

913
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 1: Live by the Way, and we have a Twitter pull

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Speaker 1: out there. Who's the best kept secret on the Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bill's roster. We've got Duke Williams, Levi Wallace, Matt milanoy

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Speaker 1: t J Yeldon uh Sixty three percent of you say

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Speaker 1: Matt Milano, the young linebacker who broke his leg last

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Speaker 1: year's coming back is gonna be is the best kept secret.

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Speaker 1: And I can see that the injury would probably keep that.

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00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 1: But he was playing what some people thought at what

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00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,320
Speaker 1: was a Pro Bowl level last year before he was injured.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that How good do you think he

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Speaker 1: was playing last year? I think he was the Only

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Speaker 1: reason I say is because I read it somewhere right.

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Speaker 1: I think Matt Milano has the potential to become a

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl player. There are still some areas he needs

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00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: to improve upon, but you talk about the raw ability,

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00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 1: and he continues to get better. Basically every two or

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00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 1: three games, he just you see a new plateau from him.

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Speaker 1: And I think with Milano, if he continues to develop

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00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 1: in this way, he's already just a home run of

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Speaker 1: a fifth round pick. But if he can, if he

933
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Speaker 1: continues to develop, the way that people think he can.

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Speaker 1: Then really, he can be a Pro bowl er each

935
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 1: and every year whatever that means anymore, because the Pro

936
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Speaker 1: Bowl is weird now because you know, right, yeah, for

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00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 1: all all those reasons. Yeah, So sixty three percent of

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00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 1: you say, yeah, Matt Milano is the best kept secret.

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00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 1: Seventeen percent say Duke Williams. He thoughts on Duke Williams,

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00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 1: I've seen the guy. We had the guy on the show.

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00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 1: He's a big, rangy athlete. He's not he's not a blazer,

942
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 1: but he's everything else you know you gotta have. He's

943
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 1: a route runner, he's a tough, fifty fifty catch kind

944
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 1: of guy. He's a big, solid body m and he's

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00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: great with the ball in his hands. Got a lot

946
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 1: of athletic ability. So he's got all of that go

947
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Speaker 1: and for him. And seventy percent of the people say

948
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 1: that about him. Well, I mean, he is a flashy

949
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 1: name because he was a big time recruit down at

950
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 1: Auburn and then obviously had some off the field stuff

951
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:34,879
Speaker 1: happen and went over to the CFL did really well there.

952
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 1: He's twenty six, which can't be understated here. I mean

953
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 1: that's and he's going to be a twenty six year

954
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 1: old rookie. If he makes the team, it is not

955
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 1: a guarantee that he makes the team however at all.

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00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 1: I mean he is he has to show this coaching

957
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 1: staff that he is a consistent ability to separate from

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00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 1: from the defender. Because if you've noticed, the Bills have

959
00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:00,040
Speaker 1: been going away from that type of wide receiver and

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00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 1: look at the guys that they have brought in Robert Foster,

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00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 1: u Zay Jones then and then you have Cole Beasley,

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00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 1: John Brown. These are guys that can separate and and

963
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: do things without and they don't have to rely on,

964
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 1: you know, contested catches. That's not their thing. Duke Williams

965
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 1: is that. So he needs to show that he can

966
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 1: a be able to win those contested catches and then

967
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 1: b be able to be able to separate. But there's

968
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 1: not a lot of spots on this roster. We were

969
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 1: just talking about it. I don't know where he fits

970
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 1: in well and fitting in at least right now. The thing, yeah,

971
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:35,360
Speaker 1: Finn again is one of the things that I was

972
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 1: talking to Murphy yesterday about this very subject, and is

973
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 1: so you got all these guys that are that are quick,

974
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 1: you know, jitterbug kind of guys. You got a Cole Beasley,

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00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 1: you got a John Brown, you got you know, like

976
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 1: Zaiah McKenzie, Robert Foster. To a certain extent is don't

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00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 1: count out Vic Bolden, who was getting some first team

978
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:55,839
Speaker 1: time on Tuesday. Right, So think about this. You've got

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00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 1: all those guys, and if you want to if you're

980
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,399
Speaker 1: Brian Dabele as an offensive coordinator and you're getting into

981
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: these matchups where teams are starting to defend you a

982
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 1: certain way because of your guys, do you want to

983
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,439
Speaker 1: have this guy sitting as your numbers, say, the number

984
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: six guy on your rosters, say all right, we're gonna

985
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 1: activate you this week and we're going to force them

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00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 1: to do some things differently defensively. Sure is that? I mean,

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00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 1: I mean a whole water it does. If you have

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00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 1: a spot, I mean, what are you going to cut

989
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 1: to keep him? I mean, in that the way too

990
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 1: early roster projection that I did that you've been referencing,

991
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,959
Speaker 1: I only had the bills keeping five because that would

992
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:33,240
Speaker 1: mean you either have to cut one of your veteran

993
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 1: cornerbacks that you just brought in, even either Kevin Johnson

994
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 1: or ex. Right, I mean but you're you're keeping Lafayette

995
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 1: Pitts because he's one of your best special teams guys.

996
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,879
Speaker 1: And then or do you cut one of your draft

997
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 1: picks at safety because they have Jaquan Johnson and Siran

998
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 1: Neal and they both think fairly highly of both of them.

999
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 1: They need to prove it in training camp in preseason.

1000
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 1: But you know who does who does he make the

1001
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 1: team over? That's that's my biggest content. And he's going

1002
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 1: to have to show that. Not only does he have

1003
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 1: to beat out all the other receivers who are vying

1004
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 1: for a sixth spot, he needs to prove to them

1005
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 1: that the receivers in general deserves six spots on the roster.

1006
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 1: All Right, Joe Vascalius, Steve Tasker, one Bills Live. We're

1007
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 1: gonna go take a break. We're gonname back. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: talk about your seven observations from what happened in the OTAs.

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Speaker 1: We're also gon gonna talk a little bit about the

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00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:23,240
Speaker 1: offensive line rotations that was in our Twitter poll yesterday,

1011
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:25,840
Speaker 1: Tyler Croft's injury and the tight end group all of

1012
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:29,359
Speaker 1: a sudden that turned into a mud puddle, and how

1013
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 1: the tight end group's gonna shake out is going to

1014
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 1: be a big question as well. One Bill's Live presented

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Speaker 1: by Clyda Health from One Bill's Drive and This is

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio Bills Radio Network. Sports Update. Adam Pacman

1017
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 1: Jones announced yesterday on social media that he's retiring after

1018
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 1: twelve seasons in the NFL. The cornerback endered the league

1019
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:00,399
Speaker 1: in two thousand and five as a first round draft

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Speaker 1: pick out of West Virginia with the Titans. Jones finished

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00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 1: his playing career with one hundred and four starts in

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Speaker 1: one hundred and forty six games totally, five hundred and

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Speaker 1: twenty two tackles, seventeen interceptions in ninety seven passes defense

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Speaker 1: with the Titans, Cowboys, Bengals, and Broncos. As a specialist,

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Speaker 1: Jones amassed nineteen hundred and forty four yards and five

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Speaker 1: touchdowns on one hundred and ninety two punt returns and

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Speaker 1: thirty two hundred and thirty two yards on one hundred

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00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 1: and twenty five kickoff returns. The Buccaneers announced yesterday that

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Speaker 1: they have agreed to terms with veteran defensive tackle in

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00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:35,439
Speaker 1: Domakan Sue. Sue is signing a one year, nine point

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00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 1: two five million dollars deal that withincentives could be worth

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00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 1: up to ten million. The forty nine ers will be

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Speaker 1: without second overall pick of the twenty nineteen NFL draft,

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00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 1: defensive end Nick Bosa, who is dealing with a Grade

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00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: one hamstring string. Bosa will be out of practice for

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00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 1: the next few weeks while receiving treatment. It's also reported

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00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 1: out of San Francisco that safety Jimmy Ward suffered a

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00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 1: broken collar bone while diving for a ball during Thursday's

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00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 1: otf OTA practice. The Bengals will start the season without

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Speaker 1: guard Alex Redmond. The NFL suspended Redmond four games for

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00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:14,720
Speaker 1: violating the league's performance enhancing drug policy. Redmond had recently

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00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 1: resigned a one year deal to return to Cincinnati as

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00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 1: an exclusive rights free agent. The Raptors beat the Bucks

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Speaker 1: one oh five ninety nine to take a three two

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Speaker 1: lead in the Eastern Conference Finals. Kawhi Leonard scored thirty

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Speaker 1: five points in the victory, and Fred Van Fleet got

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00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 1: twenty one and hit seven threes. Kyle Lowry added seventeen.

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Speaker 1: Janis I'm sorry, Jannis ed I don't know, Janni Santa

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Speaker 1: Ta Kumpo, I got Guy had twenty four points for

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Speaker 1: Milwaukee hours after being announced as a unanimous first team

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Speaker 1: All NBA's selection, and the Bison are coming off a

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Speaker 1: four three victory over the Rochester Red Wings last night

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Speaker 1: as they head to Lehigh Valley for the holiday weekend.

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Speaker 1: The first pitch tonight is at seven oh five. That's

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Speaker 1: your sports update Steve Tasker along with Joe Bisky here

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive on One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 1: You can call us at eight h three oh five

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Speaker 1: fifty or one eighty eight five fifty two five fifty.

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Speaker 1: Who's your Who is your best kept secret? On the

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills roster? Who do you think Duke Williams, Levi Wallace,

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Speaker 1: Matt Milano, t J Yeldon. All of that is up

1062
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 1: in the air. You can call chime in about that

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00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:21,320
Speaker 1: or anything else that is on your mind about the NFL.

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00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 1: And we also want to talk Joe. He had a

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00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 1: great article on your web on the w KBW website

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Speaker 1: about your observations from Buffalo Bill's OTA's Week one. We

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00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 1: had Lorenzo Alexander on this show first half hour and

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00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 1: he gave us some of his insights about the defensive side.

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00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 1: But you know, overall I mean, what really jumped out

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Speaker 1: at you the OTA's first week, Well, the first thing

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Speaker 1: I wanted to see above all else was how the

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Speaker 1: offensive line was going to look, because I mean, I

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Speaker 1: know we had on the side panel of the show

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Speaker 1: for a while there, how the free agent signings of

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Speaker 1: the actual of the team this march in April and everything,

1076
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 1: but they added so many pieces to the offensive line

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00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 1: that you just kind of wanted to figure out how

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00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 1: this puzzle kind of worked together. Now. I like puzzles.

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00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 1: I'm a puzzle guy, and so that's why it's like, Okay, Well,

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00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 1: Quentin Spain played left guard in Tennessee, so maybe it

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Speaker 1: plays it there. Spencer Long played center, but maybe maybe

1082
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 1: they want him at right guard, and all of these

1083
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 1: different options where does Tie and Secki play in? But

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00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,800
Speaker 1: once you actually got on the field, you saw that

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00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:29,359
Speaker 1: from left to right, it was Dion Dawkins at left

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00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 1: tackle with the first team, then Spencer Long at left guard,

1087
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:35,839
Speaker 1: which somewhat of a surprise because that was spain spot

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00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:39,360
Speaker 1: in Tennessee, and then Feliciano filling in for the injured

1089
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:43,439
Speaker 1: Mitch Morse and Russell Bodine at center, then Quentin Spain

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Speaker 1: at right guard, and then Tie and Secki at right tackle.

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Speaker 1: But oh, by the way, this was just one day

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00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 1: out of three so far, so they could be rotating

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00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 1: and that we just don't really know at this point

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00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,320
Speaker 1: in the year. But once they get to the mandatory

1095
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 1: mini camp in a few weeks and you get those

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00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 1: three consecutive days where you can see it and see

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00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:03,280
Speaker 1: if there is a rotation, then you start to figure

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00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 1: out what their playing might be for training Kimp. But

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Speaker 1: the initial spot of seeing long it left and Spain

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00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 1: it right, it's like, Okay, they have a shot at starting.

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Speaker 1: The most interesting part of that to me was that

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Speaker 1: John Feliciano has some center versatility and that could speak

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00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 1: volumes to how this roster kind of shakes out if

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Speaker 1: he can show that he has that ability to be

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00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:29,360
Speaker 1: that swing interior alignment for them. Yeah, and here's the

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00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 1: thing that is the over it has been priority one.

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00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 1: And I said this yesterday, it's been priority one for

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Speaker 1: like eight months. One month into last season, it's been

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00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:40,359
Speaker 1: priority one. Right, They had ten guys on the roster

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00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 1: at one point, trying to find five guys who could

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00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 1: play together and protect the quarterback, keep him from getting

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Speaker 1: hurt and of course, four quarterbacks later, you know, they

1113
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 1: got Josh Allen in there for the second time, and

1114
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,319
Speaker 1: they finally it gets to the point where Josh leads

1115
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 1: the team in rushing because they still can't keep guys out.

1116
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a mess. So they've signed all these guys,

1117
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:03,839
Speaker 1: some of you know, let's face it, some of these

1118
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:08,399
Speaker 1: guys are journeymen who are looking for a spot to land,

1119
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 1: trying to prolong their career. Some of them, like Mitch Morse,

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Speaker 1: who was coveted and is the highest paid center in

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00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 1: the league, and he's gonna he's gonna be there is injured,

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00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 1: yeah for now. I mean he was, he was moving

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Speaker 1: around there pretty well. And I know he had that

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00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 1: core muscle surgery pretty early on into the off season

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Speaker 1: after he had signed here, So he's he's trending towards

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Speaker 1: being able to get on the field sooner rather than later.

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00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 1: But I mean, to your point, this is, we don't

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Speaker 1: know how this is going to look. Is it going

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00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 1: to be better? Well, we know what's going to be different,

1130
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Speaker 1: because there's a very strong possibility that four of the

1131
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 1: five starting offensive lineman this year will be different from

1132
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Speaker 1: last year. So is Quentin Spain an upgrade to John Miller,

1133
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Speaker 1: is Spencer Long an upgrade to Wyatt Teller or Lad

1134
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 1: Dukas which, by the way, Flat Ducas is still here. Right,

1135
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 1: he's done the third string? Right? Can Rust Bodin play guard?

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00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:05,360
Speaker 1: I don't know about who? Who's guy's been a starter

1137
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 1: center for five straight years in the league and dating

1138
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 1: back to college, and he has been there. Can he

1139
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 1: move over to play guard? Because there's no doubt Mitch

1140
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:15,800
Speaker 1: Morris is going to play center and Bodine if he

1141
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 1: wants to hang in there and be on this team,

1142
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 1: you need a backup center, which he would be perfect for.

1143
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 1: But can he play guard or can he be back

1144
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 1: up to eat both? Spencer Long has played center and

1145
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:32,840
Speaker 1: act right guard. Quentin spain is, you know, when you

1146
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 1: talk about where he came from and I can't remember

1147
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 1: the team where he came from Tennessee, he was a guy.

1148
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 1: I mean, he wasn't a standout. He was a guy.

1149
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 1: Um Vlad Duke cos has has kind of been a

1150
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 1: little bit of a roller coaster here to say it,

1151
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 1: the least best. He's probably on the outside looking in.

1152
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 1: But but exactly, you're right, in order to make this

1153
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:54,799
Speaker 1: team as a potential reserve lineman. You have to have flexibility,

1154
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 1: and I don't know if Bodin has that. Feliciano has

1155
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 1: practiced there at center. I'll be interested to see if

1156
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 1: they practice Bodine at guard as the spring and summer

1157
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 1: kind of go along here to see if he can

1158
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 1: actually make the team. But when you have Spencer Long,

1159
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 1: who looks like he is going to be on the

1160
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:14,839
Speaker 1: team no matter what, and then you have Feliciano, that's

1161
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Speaker 1: two guys who have center flexibility that you conceivably would

1162
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 1: keep that can also play guard, whereas guard for Bodine

1163
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:26,360
Speaker 1: is a big question. So that that leads you to

1164
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,399
Speaker 1: what is more valuable to keep at that point, because

1165
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 1: he can't keep all of them. I don't know that

1166
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 1: they could be in a position to keep ten offensive

1167
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 1: linemen this year like they did at one point last year,

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Speaker 1: like you alluded to. So he's got he needs to

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00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 1: show somethings. They also have Jeremiah Searles, Nike Butcker, who

1170
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Speaker 1: have started for this team, albeit in a bad offensive line.

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00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:47,839
Speaker 1: And why we haven't even mentioned Wyatt Teller, Yeah, who

1172
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:50,720
Speaker 1: started seven straight games at the last half of last

1173
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:52,759
Speaker 1: year when I think it was like when Josh came

1174
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 1: back into the line up at quarterback after the end,

1175
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 1: it was a bit of a roller coaster as well.

1176
00:54:56,760 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 1: And he's you know, Wyatt, Teller's strength is not athleticism,

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00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 1: it's size and strength. But inside there, even inside there,

1178
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:05,800
Speaker 1: where you've got to tackle on one side and the

1179
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:07,799
Speaker 1: center on the other, you've got to be able to move.

1180
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 1: You got to be able to stand up and turn

1181
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 1: and run. Youve got to be able to shuffle up

1182
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 1: to the second second level and tell her struggle with that.

1183
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 1: And we're we're talking exclusively about the interior offensive line

1184
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 1: right now, but we're not even considering the fact that

1185
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:25,839
Speaker 1: two of the offensive tackles that are in the mix

1186
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 1: to start, Dion Dawkins and Cody Ford, either one of

1187
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 1: them could be flipped inside at any point the springer side.

1188
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 1: Cody Ford could be an all pro guard. What could

1189
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 1: he be as a tackle that? I mean, well, here's

1190
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:38,760
Speaker 1: the thing, do you give up? He moved, He moves

1191
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:40,399
Speaker 1: a lot better than I thought he would. Right. If

1192
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 1: you move him down to guard, that puts Tye and

1193
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 1: Secki firmly at right Dion left. And you know that's

1194
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:50,400
Speaker 1: great because tie and Secki from the people I've spoken to,

1195
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:52,880
Speaker 1: and I'm not you know, I'm away from being any

1196
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 1: kind of expert for the people I trust, and they say, listen,

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Speaker 1: ty and Secki is as good as swing guard a

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00:55:57,360 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 1: swing tackle as there is. He's you're gonna be all

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Speaker 1: right with him. The right tackle he can play and

1200
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 1: if you put and let's let's face it, the best

1201
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 1: offensive lines we've seen lately in the NFL are all

1202
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 1: about those two guards inside. They're big and physical enough

1203
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:15,879
Speaker 1: to push people, push guys around down inside like star

1204
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:17,879
Speaker 1: Low tu Lele. They gotta be able to move those

1205
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 1: guys and they turn and run to the sideline and

1206
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:25,359
Speaker 1: knock guys out on the sweeps. So if you've got

1207
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 1: guys like that down inside, really what tackle boils down

1208
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 1: to is can you get the edge rushery that Now

1209
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 1: I think the even more so than Cody Ford, because

1210
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Speaker 1: I think he'll probably have every opportunity to win that

1211
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:41,359
Speaker 1: right tackle job, because you know, more valuable to roster

1212
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 1: building philosophies. But Dion Dawkins is the guy here. He

1213
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 1: quite quite honestly for me, is one of my three

1214
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:52,239
Speaker 1: most interesting players to track throughout training game. Why is

1215
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:56,319
Speaker 1: that because I think this is such a big year

1216
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 1: for him. It's his third season he was you know,

1217
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 1: and the Bill don't do this often, but Brandon Bean

1218
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:04,239
Speaker 1: and Sean McDermott both made it a point to say

1219
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:06,840
Speaker 1: that they need more out of him publicly, and they

1220
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 1: don't do that very often with their players. They did

1221
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 1: it with Shack Lawson a couple of years ago. It worked,

1222
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:15,360
Speaker 1: he got on his horse a little bit and started

1223
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 1: to play a bit better and you know, added a

1224
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 1: couple of things to his arsenal. But Dion Dawkins to me,

1225
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 1: because is he a left tackle, that's something he needs

1226
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 1: to answer. He did well enough his rookie season, but

1227
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 1: he worsened in his sophomore year. Now you can also

1228
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 1: make the argument what was playing next to him, which

1229
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 1: is absolutely valid and it needs needs to go into it,

1230
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 1: But he also needs to show them that he has

1231
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 1: the preparation to do these things. Do they want him

1232
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 1: to succeed at left tackle? Absolutely, they used a second

1233
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 1: round pick at him. But at some point, if he's

1234
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 1: not showing it and showing that he's doing enough for

1235
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:54,040
Speaker 1: them in training camp in preseason, you have to think, Okay,

1236
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:56,680
Speaker 1: how can we salvage this? How can we salvage him

1237
00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 1: to be a suitable second round pick, and one of

1238
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 1: those possibilities are either moving them moving him over to

1239
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 1: right tackle, or the more likely scenario to me would

1240
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 1: be moving him inside to guard, because, like Cody Ford

1241
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 1: what you said about him, I think he could be

1242
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 1: a pretty good guard, in a really good guard. Yeah.

1243
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 1: And he's athletic enough to be down inside and get

1244
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 1: out in front of people. He's big enough to push

1245
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 1: people around. He's big enough like a left tackle. So

1246
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 1: but you're right, you gottah. And one of my guys

1247
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 1: I played with was I've always never forgotten this. He

1248
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 1: told me what he thought an offensive tackle looked like.

1249
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:30,920
Speaker 1: He says, a left tackle has got to be kind

1250
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 1: of genetically different. They gotta be huge, athletic, kind of

1251
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 1: you know, a different from a different planet, almost the

1252
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 1: six aide guy who can run the four seven forty

1253
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 1: and bench press New Jersey and you know that whole thing,

1254
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 1: you know, and outrun most people and play hoops and

1255
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 1: just a freak. They got to be genetically set apart.

1256
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 1: A right tackle. All he needs is a little bit

1257
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:56,920
Speaker 1: of size and a big mean streak in him, and

1258
00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 1: that's about it. That's what he said. So you know

1259
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 1: there's different things that you need either either spot now guard.

1260
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 1: You know we played, you know guards are different. You know,

1261
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 1: every offense and every running game kind of predicates it

1262
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:13,160
Speaker 1: around how what your guards are capable of doing. Do

1263
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 1: you have a guard like the old days with Jim

1264
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 1: Richard who is you know, under two seventy but could

1265
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 1: outrun me, right, so he'd get out and run with Thurman,

1266
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 1: And then you'd have guys like, you know, huge guys

1267
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 1: like Jerry Ostrovski and years past, you know guys who

1268
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 1: are big, just tree stump guys who you're gonna bulldoze

1269
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:34,800
Speaker 1: some people and get out in front and you get

1270
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:36,720
Speaker 1: to the second level of rather than to the edge.

1271
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 1: And what I like about Diana is that he can move.

1272
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 1: He can absolutely can run. He can run. It's just

1273
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 1: a matter of him being able to kick slide well

1274
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:49,200
Speaker 1: enough and to mirror with with his opponent as well

1275
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 1: as he should. And that it's a whole different ball

1276
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 1: game at tackle. And so that's why I wonder if

1277
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 1: he might be best suited inside. But like I said,

1278
00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:01,480
Speaker 1: they're going to give him free opportunity to win that

1279
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 1: left tackle job. He just needs to prove it. This

1280
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 1: is a huge summer for him. There's no doubt. All right,

1281
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:07,920
Speaker 1: you were just Muskaya is Steve Tasker on One Bill's Live.

1282
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 1: We're talking about your seven observation. We're never gonna get

1283
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:12,120
Speaker 1: through all these brands. The next one I want to

1284
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:14,520
Speaker 1: go to. And there's all kinds of observations about the

1285
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:20,440
Speaker 1: offensive line, the cornerbacks at Levi Wallace, defensive ends in

1286
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 1: some individual guys like E. J. Gaines and Robert Foster

1287
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 1: and Malana I want to talk about the tight ends. Yeah,

1288
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 1: it's really interesting right now, particularly since Tyler Craft is

1289
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 1: gonna be out for like a minimum three months. It

1290
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 1: sounds like his bringing him in was a great Movie's

1291
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 1: the right position, the right type of player at the

1292
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 1: right spot, and they brought Lee Smith back, who is

1293
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 1: like an offensive tackle. He's gonna make a big difference.

1294
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 1: But he also did some things that you know, you

1295
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:48,880
Speaker 1: look at his highlights from Oakland and they threw him

1296
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 1: the ball so he can do some things. One of

1297
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:54,600
Speaker 1: the names that's been bouncing around with Brandon Bean, with

1298
01:00:54,840 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 1: Lorenzo Alexander, with Josh Allen as Jason Krum. He has

1299
01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:03,959
Speaker 1: really elevated his game you know we're speaking in the break.

1300
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:06,960
Speaker 1: He's he's a tireless worker. He's really worked at it,

1301
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 1: really a craft. He's gotten himself into the NFL now

1302
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:12,840
Speaker 1: where he's maybe a fringe player or a practice squad guy.

1303
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:16,680
Speaker 1: He's a legitimate player, but there may not be room

1304
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:19,520
Speaker 1: for him on this roster, particularly since the drafting of

1305
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 1: Dawson Knox and Tommy Sweeney. So you got these guys,

1306
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:26,840
Speaker 1: how do you see it shaken out? Yeah? They were

1307
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 1: they had. They came into this offseason with only Jason

1308
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:32,640
Speaker 1: Krum at tight end, which is kind of wild, but

1309
01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 1: they added four different substantial pieces to that, and quality

1310
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 1: promising pieces. Right. So I mean Tyler Croft, the injury

1311
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:46,840
Speaker 1: to him, I mean that had to dishearten the Bills

1312
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:50,640
Speaker 1: because that happened first OTA practice. That's just like I'll

1313
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:53,200
Speaker 1: come up, there's the same broken foot. They were counting

1314
01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:55,000
Speaker 1: on him as much as they're counting on Mitch Morris,

1315
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. They thought he was gonna

1316
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 1: be at He's plugging play, right, Nobody was going to

1317
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:04,000
Speaker 1: beat him out. Yeah, I mean he was the starter,

1318
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:06,040
Speaker 1: He was the athletic type, and he was the guy

1319
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 1: who was going to allow them to afford Dawson knocks

1320
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 1: the time in the shadows to be able to develop

1321
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 1: a little bit as a route runner and as more

1322
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:20,520
Speaker 1: of an all around tight end. But now that his

1323
01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 1: start of the season is certainly in jeopardy because the

1324
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 1: start of the regular season, as to the point where

1325
01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:32,840
Speaker 1: they started OTAs would put him around the three and

1326
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 1: a half month range of from injury right around the

1327
01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 1: start of the sea right exactly, that might be a

1328
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:40,440
Speaker 1: little bit too soon for him to get into it.

1329
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 1: And not to mention it's probably going to take him

1330
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:46,320
Speaker 1: longer than just the three and a half to four

1331
01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:48,920
Speaker 1: months to get himself acclimated. Well, I think that's what

1332
01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:50,440
Speaker 1: I think. It's part of it. I think I don't

1333
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:52,160
Speaker 1: think it'll take him that long to get back on

1334
01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:53,800
Speaker 1: his feet and start going a Bit'll take him that

1335
01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 1: loan to get in shape and be one hundred percent

1336
01:02:56,920 --> 01:02:59,400
Speaker 1: over the injury that kind they had surgery on that foot.

1337
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:04,360
Speaker 1: From my understanding is so yeah, it's I think that's

1338
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:06,439
Speaker 1: start to finish. I think he should be one hundred

1339
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:09,480
Speaker 1: percent by then, and hopefully we'll be able to hit

1340
01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:12,440
Speaker 1: the ground running by it, because he'll be able to

1341
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:14,920
Speaker 1: start doing some things on the side by himself. He'll

1342
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 1: start He'll be he'll be in meetings, he'll be at practice,

1343
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 1: he'll watch these guys. He'll be catching the ball standing

1344
01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:22,440
Speaker 1: up still, you know that kind of thing. He'll be

1345
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:23,880
Speaker 1: up on his feet, and then he'll start running a

1346
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:26,600
Speaker 1: little bit. So he'll by the time four months is over,

1347
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:29,440
Speaker 1: he should be able to be the guy he is.

1348
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:33,920
Speaker 1: But then, but then if he is not eligible for

1349
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:36,200
Speaker 1: the start of the regular season, what do you do

1350
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:39,600
Speaker 1: if you're the Bills, do you keep a fifth tight

1351
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:42,280
Speaker 1: end on the roster because as it is right now,

1352
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:47,440
Speaker 1: they're probably keeping four between Croft, Dawson Knox, Lee Smith.

1353
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:50,120
Speaker 1: Those are the three it seems like locks at this

1354
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:52,720
Speaker 1: point in time, just based on how much resources they

1355
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:54,920
Speaker 1: put into each one of those guys. And then the

1356
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:58,600
Speaker 1: bubble guys are Tommy Sweeney and Jason Krum. So what

1357
01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:00,920
Speaker 1: do you look for in this? For instance, do you

1358
01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:06,080
Speaker 1: keep Kroom because because Croft is off to the side

1359
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:08,440
Speaker 1: and it might not be available to you at the

1360
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:11,720
Speaker 1: start of the regular season, whereas but you already have

1361
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:15,240
Speaker 1: Dawson Knox there, and do you just keep Kroome just

1362
01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:19,480
Speaker 1: in case that Dawson Knox isn't fully ready or with

1363
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:22,560
Speaker 1: Lee Smith, he offers a certain amount to your offense

1364
01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:25,720
Speaker 1: in terms of being that sixth offensive lineman essentially, and

1365
01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:29,520
Speaker 1: by all means that's kind of what Tommy Sweeney is too.

1366
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:33,520
Speaker 1: So they have to ask themselves, Okay, what can they

1367
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:37,520
Speaker 1: sneak onto their practice squad more capably and would they

1368
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:39,320
Speaker 1: be able to do that with Jason Kroom? Will Jason

1369
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:42,600
Speaker 1: Kroom have a summer worth it enough to be able

1370
01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:46,640
Speaker 1: to stay within that top four range and outranked Tommy Sweeney?

1371
01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:49,160
Speaker 1: Because if there's one thing that we should know about

1372
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:52,160
Speaker 1: Brandon Bean, he does not like to cut his draft picks.

1373
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:55,120
Speaker 1: Do you know the only draft pick that they cut

1374
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 1: of his last year out of training camp, Austin Prole

1375
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:03,120
Speaker 1: to them made it. I mean they they they kept,

1376
01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 1: they kept all of them. Yeah, and they did release

1377
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:09,280
Speaker 1: Uh no, they didn't. There was Robert Foster that they released.

1378
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:11,160
Speaker 1: They brought him back and then he can draft turn

1379
01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:13,760
Speaker 1: the corner um. One of the things about this as

1380
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:16,479
Speaker 1: well is I think it comes down to a little

1381
01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:19,840
Speaker 1: bit of what Brian Dayball wants to do. Sure if

1382
01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:22,080
Speaker 1: he asked, and I think they'll listen to whether whether

1383
01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:23,960
Speaker 1: it's a draft pick or not. I think if day

1384
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:29,240
Speaker 1: Ball comes and says, listen, Lee Smith good tied and stuff,

1385
01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:31,440
Speaker 1: but he's not good enough in the passing game for us,

1386
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:33,800
Speaker 1: because when we stick him in there, we're gonna start

1387
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:37,400
Speaker 1: to become predictable. Croom is good enough and getting better

1388
01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:40,200
Speaker 1: at running at run blocking, Well, that's gonna be the

1389
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:42,800
Speaker 1: big thing for him, right It's it's gonna be It's

1390
01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:46,840
Speaker 1: gonna be better for us to be unpredictable than it

1391
01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:48,680
Speaker 1: is to have a guy who can actually dominate at

1392
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:50,600
Speaker 1: the end of the line of scrimmage, because then they're

1393
01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:52,200
Speaker 1: gonna be on their heels a little bit with Croom

1394
01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:55,000
Speaker 1: in there. They'll they're gonna have to cover him and

1395
01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:58,560
Speaker 1: not realizing he's blocking him. Um, that kind of thing. Sure,

1396
01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:01,080
Speaker 1: it'll come down to the way the coaching staff wants

1397
01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:04,840
Speaker 1: to utilize these guys. To me, it looks like Tommy Sweeney, Croom,

1398
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:06,800
Speaker 1: and to a certain extent at this time, because I

1399
01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:11,919
Speaker 1: don't know any better, Dawson Knox and of course Tyler Croft.

1400
01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:15,040
Speaker 1: They're all kind of trying to be all round guys. Right.

1401
01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:17,480
Speaker 1: Lee Smith doesn't make any bones about it. He's an

1402
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:20,760
Speaker 1: offensive tackle, leadership guy, solid guy in the room, who's

1403
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:23,200
Speaker 1: got his uses big time. I think Sweeney is more

1404
01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:25,160
Speaker 1: in the mold of Lee Smith than he has Tyler Croft.

1405
01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:29,280
Speaker 1: If just by watching him, it seems like his strong

1406
01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:32,440
Speaker 1: point is in the blocking realm, and he's not a

1407
01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:35,919
Speaker 1: great athlete. You see him. Yeah, he's huge, He's huge.

1408
01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:38,800
Speaker 1: He's absolutely huge. He's kind of an applotting runner. You

1409
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:41,680
Speaker 1: see it on the screen right now. But he also

1410
01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:45,160
Speaker 1: has the ability to find the space and it for

1411
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:47,840
Speaker 1: those short to intermediate spots. He's not going to get

1412
01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:50,320
Speaker 1: you a ton after the catch. But he's also fairly

1413
01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:52,960
Speaker 1: good in the red zone. So that's why I'm just

1414
01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:57,560
Speaker 1: wondering with him, because he is somewhat in that mold

1415
01:06:57,680 --> 01:06:59,800
Speaker 1: of Lee Smith. So if something happens to Lee Smith,

1416
01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:02,560
Speaker 1: Tommy Sweeney's kind of reminded me of Pete metz Lars.

1417
01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:05,120
Speaker 1: You know Pete Metzlars six eight power forward in hoops.

1418
01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:07,480
Speaker 1: He is never very fast. Big Sweeney's like, what six

1419
01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:10,160
Speaker 1: four six fives, he's all the six five. I think

1420
01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:12,440
Speaker 1: he's big, dude. He might may be wrong, he may

1421
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:14,600
Speaker 1: be not that tall, but he strikes me as being

1422
01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:18,160
Speaker 1: a really big guy. He's no Pete metz Lars size wise,

1423
01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:21,040
Speaker 1: but that's a type of player. He is maybe a

1424
01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:23,240
Speaker 1: little bit faster now that because he's probably in his

1425
01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:24,920
Speaker 1: twenties and I played with Pete when he was late

1426
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:28,600
Speaker 1: twenties and thirties. But right, you know, very good hands,

1427
01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:31,160
Speaker 1: got an awareness, can run around even though and he

1428
01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:34,640
Speaker 1: can get a little bit of separation, even though he's

1429
01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:37,280
Speaker 1: not gonna outrun anybody. So it's gonna come down to

1430
01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:39,120
Speaker 1: him and Chroom. It really is for me, because they're

1431
01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:41,200
Speaker 1: not cutting Dawson Knox, they're not cutting Lee Smith, they're

1432
01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:43,840
Speaker 1: not cutting Tyler Croft. And it's really coming down to

1433
01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:46,480
Speaker 1: if they want to keep five tight ends and right,

1434
01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:48,960
Speaker 1: or if they feel like they can try to sneak

1435
01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:51,480
Speaker 1: one of those guys on the practice squad, because if

1436
01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:54,240
Speaker 1: they try to sneak Tommy Sweeney on the practice squad,

1437
01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:55,919
Speaker 1: I think he's probably getting picked up. Well, if they're

1438
01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:59,680
Speaker 1: gonna take nine offensive linemen instead of ten this year,

1439
01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:02,040
Speaker 1: that gives them one extra that they didn't have last year.

1440
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:05,400
Speaker 1: Maybe that's where they'll use it on an offensive line

1441
01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:09,680
Speaker 1: slash tight end. Sure, and but but that I mean

1442
01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:14,120
Speaker 1: already keeping four. They only kept at most three last year, right,

1443
01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:17,720
Speaker 1: so they're already attributing another spot likely to that tight

1444
01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:19,960
Speaker 1: end spot. What do you think the chances are? I'm

1445
01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:22,080
Speaker 1: and I don't want to change the subject right away.

1446
01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:23,439
Speaker 1: We're not going to get to all seven of them.

1447
01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:25,240
Speaker 1: We've got the offensive line to the tight ends. One

1448
01:08:25,320 --> 01:08:26,840
Speaker 1: last thing I want to get to. You said, what

1449
01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:28,920
Speaker 1: is the And I'll ask you this, what is the

1450
01:08:29,160 --> 01:08:32,640
Speaker 1: position on the Buffalo Bills that is the deepest and

1451
01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:35,479
Speaker 1: has the most quality and is? And the reason I

1452
01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:38,920
Speaker 1: ask is you got too many of these guys and

1453
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:40,640
Speaker 1: a lot of teams don't have any of them, and

1454
01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:45,200
Speaker 1: we're gonna make a trade. I'd probably say Corner. That's

1455
01:08:45,280 --> 01:08:47,240
Speaker 1: what I thought you would say, yeah, because I mean

1456
01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:50,920
Speaker 1: they have tradevious White obviously, Who's who's their number one

1457
01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:53,960
Speaker 1: starting going back. They're gonna take his option up, They're

1458
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:56,040
Speaker 1: going to sign him to an extension. It really all

1459
01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:58,960
Speaker 1: depends on how Lee val Wallace develops this this spring

1460
01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:02,160
Speaker 1: and summer, because I think he has a ton of potential.

1461
01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:05,519
Speaker 1: And the way he looked in those seven games last year,

1462
01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:08,960
Speaker 1: he was he didn't look like a rookie. It just

1463
01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:11,640
Speaker 1: seemed like he was always within himself and he's just

1464
01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:16,240
Speaker 1: always whenever you speak with him. He's just very level headed.

1465
01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:18,760
Speaker 1: It's always the same, never too high, never too low.

1466
01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:21,200
Speaker 1: That that's exactly the type of demeanor you want out

1467
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:23,479
Speaker 1: of a cornerback. And not to be totally cliche, but

1468
01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:29,080
Speaker 1: I mean he's also got the run tackling ability he's

1469
01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:31,200
Speaker 1: got or the willingness to do it, which is a

1470
01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:34,519
Speaker 1: prerequisite for Sean McDermott. He's got the long arms, he's

1471
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 1: got the height. He's getting stronger or at least trying to,

1472
01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:40,640
Speaker 1: and that was a point of contention for them last year.

1473
01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:42,439
Speaker 1: He's built like Kevin Johnson, the guy that picked up

1474
01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:45,240
Speaker 1: from the Texas, their long, lean guy very much though.

1475
01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:47,639
Speaker 1: That is if you go back and look at Sean

1476
01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:50,000
Speaker 1: mcdermots first round pick, right, if you go back and

1477
01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:53,639
Speaker 1: look at Sean McDermott's history with cornerbacks, he has always

1478
01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:57,920
Speaker 1: valued those tall, lean, long guys to bring into a

1479
01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:00,920
Speaker 1: system because as a zone corner, more often than not,

1480
01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:03,320
Speaker 1: you need that extra length to be able to ship

1481
01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:05,599
Speaker 1: a pass. The more strength, the more length and size

1482
01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:09,120
Speaker 1: in his own right, So that's why Levi Wallace, if

1483
01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:12,519
Speaker 1: if he shows that that kind of veteran savvy and

1484
01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:15,040
Speaker 1: that stuff that Lorenzo and Alexander was talking about with

1485
01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:17,720
Speaker 1: him early on about how he's got this self awareness

1486
01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:21,439
Speaker 1: where he's continuing continuing to try and evaluate himself as

1487
01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:24,519
Speaker 1: to how they're going to scout him humility right exactly.

1488
01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:27,720
Speaker 1: So he has every chance to win this job, and

1489
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:30,360
Speaker 1: if he does, that makes one of Eja Gaines or

1490
01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:34,960
Speaker 1: Kevin Johnson potentially expendable. But then again, would you necessarily

1491
01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:37,960
Speaker 1: want to give up on that depth because they didn't

1492
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:40,880
Speaker 1: have depth at cornerback last year? How many times did

1493
01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:44,599
Speaker 1: we see Raphael Bush playing nickel and he's a safety

1494
01:10:44,720 --> 01:10:47,120
Speaker 1: and they teams were just burning them left and right.

1495
01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:49,360
Speaker 1: And Raphael Bush is a good safety, good in the

1496
01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:52,400
Speaker 1: big nickel scenario, but when you have him playing out

1497
01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:56,880
Speaker 1: of position almost on down in, down, out, that is

1498
01:10:56,880 --> 01:10:58,960
Speaker 1: a weakness that teams are going to pick apart. So

1499
01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:01,360
Speaker 1: when you have Eja gain who can move inside and outside,

1500
01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:05,479
Speaker 1: if Terren Johnson becomes injured, then you have a suitable

1501
01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:08,639
Speaker 1: backup there. If one of Tredevious White or Levi Wallace

1502
01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:11,160
Speaker 1: goes down, then you have Kevin Johnson that can play

1503
01:11:11,200 --> 01:11:14,800
Speaker 1: the outside and offers that physical brand. So it's I mean,

1504
01:11:14,920 --> 01:11:16,719
Speaker 1: sure you can try and trade one of those guys.

1505
01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:19,640
Speaker 1: But quarterbacks get hurt in the NFL. Quarterbacks get hurt

1506
01:11:19,680 --> 01:11:22,640
Speaker 1: in the NFL a lot. Joe Pascaliu Steve Task on

1507
01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:24,439
Speaker 1: One Bills Live from One Bills Drive, We're gonna take

1508
01:11:24,439 --> 01:11:25,920
Speaker 1: a break, We're gonna come back. We're gonna talk a

1509
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:28,080
Speaker 1: little bit about what's going on in the league meetings,

1510
01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:30,960
Speaker 1: the TV schedule, the you're a TV guy, so we'll

1511
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:32,680
Speaker 1: talk a little bit about that. We're gonna reset our

1512
01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:36,120
Speaker 1: Twitter poll who's the biggest best kept secret on the

1513
01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:40,400
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's roster. Also, Adam Shine, our buddy from CBS

1514
01:11:40,439 --> 01:11:44,519
Speaker 1: Sports Network, talked about the AFC East Division and the

1515
01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:48,639
Speaker 1: quarterbacks that play in that division and Dono McNabb says

1516
01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:50,400
Speaker 1: he should be a Hall of Famer as well. So

1517
01:11:50,439 --> 01:11:52,000
Speaker 1: we got a lot of talk about coming back on

1518
01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:53,800
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive, and this is

1519
01:11:53,840 --> 01:12:08,000
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back at One Bill's Lives. Steve Task,

1520
01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:10,360
Speaker 1: along with Joe Biscallier, murs off the Friday for the

1521
01:12:10,439 --> 01:12:13,280
Speaker 1: holiday weekend. We wish him well. We've been talking about

1522
01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:17,760
Speaker 1: your observation seven observations from Bill's OTAs and we're gonna

1523
01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:19,400
Speaker 1: move on to some other stuff we got through I

1524
01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:22,280
Speaker 1: don't know, like two of them because it was the

1525
01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:24,080
Speaker 1: offensive line that tight ends and you know, and all

1526
01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:25,760
Speaker 1: that stuff that's gone on with there. You got an

1527
01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:27,920
Speaker 1: offensive line that's going to be completely revamped on a

1528
01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:29,640
Speaker 1: tight end where the top of the food chain is

1529
01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:31,160
Speaker 1: going to be out for three months. And now that

1530
01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:34,120
Speaker 1: changes everything. And you know what, I I don't want

1531
01:12:34,160 --> 01:12:36,479
Speaker 1: to leave this seventy We're gonna stick with what we're with,

1532
01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:40,280
Speaker 1: with the seven observations that we got, We're gonna move on. Well,

1533
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:44,000
Speaker 1: it's interesting because there are just so many different positions

1534
01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:46,360
Speaker 1: because the team is basically brand new, there are so

1535
01:12:46,439 --> 01:12:49,639
Speaker 1: many different positions where it's like you can get into

1536
01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:52,960
Speaker 1: a legitimate ten to fifteen minute conversation about about all

1537
01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:57,200
Speaker 1: the different little side topics of it outside of you know, quarterbacks.

1538
01:12:57,280 --> 01:13:00,120
Speaker 1: We ended, yeah, we ended the last segment and we

1539
01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:02,120
Speaker 1: had talked about the offensive line in the tight ends,

1540
01:13:02,120 --> 01:13:05,160
Speaker 1: and we kind of morphed over into Levi Wallace in

1541
01:13:05,200 --> 01:13:07,679
Speaker 1: the corners because you feel like it's a depth position

1542
01:13:08,240 --> 01:13:10,040
Speaker 1: for the Bills and maybe if there's gonna be a trade,

1543
01:13:10,120 --> 01:13:12,240
Speaker 1: you do that from your depth, right, I mean, from

1544
01:13:12,280 --> 01:13:14,960
Speaker 1: your position of strength. Might be messling with fire though

1545
01:13:15,040 --> 01:13:18,400
Speaker 1: he might. Yeah, absolutely, But if so, let's move on

1546
01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:20,840
Speaker 1: because the next one on your list was Levi Wallace

1547
01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:23,240
Speaker 1: and how you know how much and what's going to

1548
01:13:23,320 --> 01:13:26,519
Speaker 1: happen with him. Let's talk about the defensive ends. Yeah,

1549
01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:30,439
Speaker 1: they drafted Oliver who's a defensive tackle, but that does

1550
01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:33,600
Speaker 1: kind of solidify them at another spot. And now I

1551
01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:36,400
Speaker 1: think it does put the spotlight on guys like Trent Murphy,

1552
01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:39,519
Speaker 1: Jerry Hughes was just extended, Shack Lawson is in his

1553
01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:45,160
Speaker 1: contract year, and Eddie Yarborough is he gonna emerge and

1554
01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:47,120
Speaker 1: he's gonna be able to He may be one of

1555
01:13:47,160 --> 01:13:49,960
Speaker 1: the guys that, while it was okay to make the

1556
01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:51,760
Speaker 1: team two years ago and kind of hang in there

1557
01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:54,240
Speaker 1: now all of a sudden might not be so easy

1558
01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:56,000
Speaker 1: to make this kind of rouster. Yeah, I think around

1559
01:13:56,000 --> 01:13:58,720
Speaker 1: the nose there for you, because he is firmly on

1560
01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:01,360
Speaker 1: the roster bubble. In my mind, I mean, you have

1561
01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:03,479
Speaker 1: three guys who will be on this team for the

1562
01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:06,880
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills at defensive end, firmly. Jerry Hughes, he just

1563
01:14:06,920 --> 01:14:09,800
Speaker 1: signed the contract extension. He ain't going anywhere. Trent Murphy,

1564
01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:13,120
Speaker 1: he had he signed the contract last offseason. They need

1565
01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:15,519
Speaker 1: to figure out if he's gonna work and so he's

1566
01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:18,120
Speaker 1: not going anywhere. Shack Lawson is going to be a

1567
01:14:18,240 --> 01:14:21,519
Speaker 1: backup to one of those two guys. What I found

1568
01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:24,880
Speaker 1: interesting in the first day of OTAs that I was

1569
01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:28,479
Speaker 1: allowed to see on Tuesday was that they flipped. It

1570
01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:31,679
Speaker 1: was a very subtle change, but they flipped the sides

1571
01:14:31,720 --> 01:14:34,000
Speaker 1: of Eddie Yarborough and Shack Lawson from what they were

1572
01:14:34,120 --> 01:14:36,719
Speaker 1: last year. Last year, Eddie Yarborough was lining up against

1573
01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:40,479
Speaker 1: the left tackles behind Jerry, behind Jerry Hughes, and Shack

1574
01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:44,080
Speaker 1: Lawson was the immediate backup to Trent Murphy going up

1575
01:14:44,080 --> 01:14:47,519
Speaker 1: against the right tackles. Those guys flipped at OTAs, which

1576
01:14:48,160 --> 01:14:51,439
Speaker 1: leads you to a couple of different things. One the

1577
01:14:52,240 --> 01:14:54,599
Speaker 1: going up against right tackles is what Eddie Yarborough did

1578
01:14:54,920 --> 01:14:58,360
Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen when he made flashes, made made big

1579
01:14:58,479 --> 01:15:00,880
Speaker 1: plays for them. So maybe the trying to get him

1580
01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:03,200
Speaker 1: back over to that side and figure out if if

1581
01:15:03,280 --> 01:15:06,439
Speaker 1: he can do it, because last year it kind of

1582
01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:08,680
Speaker 1: dwindled for him a little bit. He's a super nice guy,

1583
01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:13,320
Speaker 1: great story, everything, everything like that he did and he

1584
01:15:13,479 --> 01:15:17,120
Speaker 1: turned invisible in a few different ways. One, going into

1585
01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:20,080
Speaker 1: the regular season, he did not play a lick of

1586
01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:22,400
Speaker 1: special teams. They tried to get him to do it.

1587
01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:24,360
Speaker 1: In the middle of the season, you saw the stap

1588
01:15:24,479 --> 01:15:27,479
Speaker 1: counts go up, and then around like the twelfth or

1589
01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:31,280
Speaker 1: thirteenth game, they were gone again, which means he wasn't

1590
01:15:31,320 --> 01:15:33,760
Speaker 1: doing his job properly. They wanted to look elsewhere. They're

1591
01:15:33,800 --> 01:15:35,360
Speaker 1: just trying to get a spark or something like that.

1592
01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:39,000
Speaker 1: And then you saw his snap counts dwindle, and by

1593
01:15:39,080 --> 01:15:40,720
Speaker 1: the end of the season in Week seventeen, he was

1594
01:15:40,760 --> 01:15:43,439
Speaker 1: a healthy scratch for Mike Love, who is an undrafted guy.

1595
01:15:43,840 --> 01:15:47,439
Speaker 1: Right now that they're they're trying to figure out if

1596
01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:51,120
Speaker 1: Eddie can get back to what he did so well.

1597
01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:53,960
Speaker 1: The same thing with Shack Lawson. I mean him going

1598
01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:56,320
Speaker 1: up against left tackles. This is what he did his

1599
01:15:56,560 --> 01:15:59,760
Speaker 1: entire college career and he has not really done it

1600
01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:05,400
Speaker 1: to a grand scale in Buffalo. Now, keep in mind,

1601
01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:08,720
Speaker 1: going up against left tackles, his snapcount is going to

1602
01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:13,320
Speaker 1: be diminished greatly if they keep this change permanent, because

1603
01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:16,679
Speaker 1: he's going to be working behind Jerry Hughes, So Jerry's

1604
01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:18,479
Speaker 1: not coming off the field, No, I mean not a ton.

1605
01:16:18,520 --> 01:16:20,960
Speaker 1: He'll probably play sixty five to seventy percent, which doesn't

1606
01:16:21,040 --> 01:16:24,400
Speaker 1: leave a lot for shack Lawson. So that also signifies,

1607
01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:28,920
Speaker 1: just by this little domino effect here that they're giving

1608
01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:32,080
Speaker 1: Trent Murphy basically the left side if they keep this

1609
01:16:32,280 --> 01:16:36,040
Speaker 1: change to a permanent thing. So's it was very subtle,

1610
01:16:36,160 --> 01:16:38,880
Speaker 1: but it means a lot in the grand scheme of things,

1611
01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:41,080
Speaker 1: because if shack Lawson can show he can do a

1612
01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:44,479
Speaker 1: little bit better in terms of rushing the passer even

1613
01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:47,479
Speaker 1: as a backup, that can up his value and potential

1614
01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:51,200
Speaker 1: free agency, which could help yield a better compensatory pick

1615
01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:53,560
Speaker 1: down the stretch. So there are so many things that

1616
01:16:53,640 --> 01:16:55,519
Speaker 1: play here, but we have to see if they continue

1617
01:16:55,560 --> 01:16:57,120
Speaker 1: to kind of speak out those four guys. You got

1618
01:16:57,400 --> 01:17:01,200
Speaker 1: Jerry Hughes and Trent Murphy, Shack Lawson and that, And

1619
01:17:01,320 --> 01:17:04,040
Speaker 1: to me, that's kind of where it starts to get

1620
01:17:04,040 --> 01:17:07,800
Speaker 1: a little bit cloudy. You're gonna have one guy you've got.

1621
01:17:07,880 --> 01:17:12,080
Speaker 1: You've got Eli Harold who emerged out for me out

1622
01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:15,360
Speaker 1: of nowhere, and I got the guy who I'm thinking

1623
01:17:15,400 --> 01:17:19,599
Speaker 1: about who may do it is Mike Love. Yeah, he's

1624
01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:22,320
Speaker 1: a guy who came in and took over all those snaps.

1625
01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:25,320
Speaker 1: The Yarborough kind of gave up. How do you see

1626
01:17:25,360 --> 01:17:29,400
Speaker 1: that shaken out? Well, he's big enough. He is big enough. Um.

1627
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:32,040
Speaker 1: They also drafted a defensive end and Daryl Johnson in

1628
01:17:32,080 --> 01:17:33,960
Speaker 1: the seventh round, who's more of a project type. I

1629
01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:36,599
Speaker 1: think he might be best suited for the practice squad. Um.

1630
01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:40,960
Speaker 1: But the guy I'm I'm keeping my eye on is

1631
01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:43,920
Speaker 1: Eli Harold because this is this is a player that

1632
01:17:44,400 --> 01:17:49,439
Speaker 1: was a fairly high draft pick. Um. They tried using

1633
01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:51,719
Speaker 1: him in the league as kind of a linebacker. Brandon

1634
01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:53,760
Speaker 1: Bean was very steadfast and thinking that he could be

1635
01:17:53,800 --> 01:17:58,000
Speaker 1: a defensive end, and they lined him up against the

1636
01:17:58,120 --> 01:18:00,519
Speaker 1: left tackle in the first day of is that we

1637
01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:03,200
Speaker 1: are allowed to see if he can show a little

1638
01:18:03,200 --> 01:18:05,600
Speaker 1: bit of a little bit of juice in terms of

1639
01:18:05,680 --> 01:18:08,519
Speaker 1: getting after the passer. They just they don't have that

1640
01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:11,240
Speaker 1: with any of their defensive ends outside of Jerry Hughes

1641
01:18:11,360 --> 01:18:13,560
Speaker 1: right now. And Trent Murphy could be that guy, but

1642
01:18:13,680 --> 01:18:17,880
Speaker 1: he's not the flexible, bend the edge guy. That's not

1643
01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:20,479
Speaker 1: his game. He's more of the use his length and

1644
01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:23,080
Speaker 1: strength to kind of throw him aside and then pick

1645
01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:27,080
Speaker 1: up the pieces inside the pocket. Jerry Hughes is zero gravity,

1646
01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:29,519
Speaker 1: put my knee to the floor, get get around the

1647
01:18:29,640 --> 01:18:33,160
Speaker 1: offensive lineman. And if Eli Harold can show any amount

1648
01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:35,360
Speaker 1: to do that, I mean heck, putting him in there

1649
01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:38,080
Speaker 1: for fifteen to twenty percent of defensive snaps, I could

1650
01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:41,080
Speaker 1: think of a far worse things. So's he's the guy

1651
01:18:41,160 --> 01:18:43,240
Speaker 1: that I'm kind of like, Okay, well, if someone's really

1652
01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:46,320
Speaker 1: going to push Yarboro off this roster, I think a

1653
01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:49,320
Speaker 1: guy with five years experience right right exactly, And that

1654
01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:50,760
Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense. And it's going to be

1655
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:52,559
Speaker 1: interesting to see how that shakes out. And if Eli

1656
01:18:52,680 --> 01:18:56,879
Speaker 1: Harold can maybe you know, he came over from Detroit,

1657
01:18:58,280 --> 01:19:02,400
Speaker 1: not a franchise that is steeped in culture, you know,

1658
01:19:02,960 --> 01:19:05,040
Speaker 1: it's not one that that's what jumps out at. Yet

1659
01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:09,680
Speaker 1: he's coming to a place in Buffalo where, for lack

1660
01:19:09,720 --> 01:19:11,120
Speaker 1: of a better way to put it, this is kind

1661
01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:13,639
Speaker 1: of a garden spot for guys to flourish in. They're

1662
01:19:13,680 --> 01:19:16,240
Speaker 1: going to have teammates and a coaching staff and an

1663
01:19:16,280 --> 01:19:18,800
Speaker 1: atmosphere that is going to do everything they can to

1664
01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:21,080
Speaker 1: get these guys to flourish. I'm not saying that a

1665
01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:23,920
Speaker 1: lot of teams don't like, don't do that, but certainly

1666
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:26,960
Speaker 1: that is the wheelhouse of what Sean McDermott and Brandon

1667
01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:31,080
Speaker 1: Bean have attempted to build here. It is a support group,

1668
01:19:32,320 --> 01:19:35,280
Speaker 1: us against you know, us all together in it. And

1669
01:19:35,439 --> 01:19:37,479
Speaker 1: I think a guy like Eli Harold who spent some

1670
01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:41,240
Speaker 1: time with a team like Detroit, he was drafted by

1671
01:19:41,240 --> 01:19:43,639
Speaker 1: the Niners, and the Niners really weren't good those three years.

1672
01:19:43,680 --> 01:19:46,360
Speaker 1: So yeah, to your point, bouncing around to a team

1673
01:19:46,479 --> 01:19:49,120
Speaker 1: finally that will give him a place where wow, okay,

1674
01:19:49,240 --> 01:19:51,280
Speaker 1: now this is where it could this is what it's

1675
01:19:51,320 --> 01:19:53,599
Speaker 1: supposed to be like, and kind of taking a plus

1676
01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:56,519
Speaker 1: at a point in his career where he might start

1677
01:19:56,600 --> 01:20:00,599
Speaker 1: thinking about, wow, I'm I need a place right right right.

1678
01:20:00,840 --> 01:20:03,439
Speaker 1: And he's twenty five years old, so he's still young

1679
01:20:04,160 --> 01:20:07,000
Speaker 1: in the grand scheme of things. If he can just

1680
01:20:07,400 --> 01:20:10,160
Speaker 1: find himself a little bit in Buffalo, I think he's

1681
01:20:10,200 --> 01:20:12,400
Speaker 1: one of those guys that could could surprise some people

1682
01:20:12,479 --> 01:20:14,880
Speaker 1: and sneak a roster spot here. I mean, it's still

1683
01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:18,480
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of things to be decided,

1684
01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:22,160
Speaker 1: but Yarborough needs to have the type of summer that

1685
01:20:22,200 --> 01:20:24,200
Speaker 1: he did in twenty seven times. A couple of there's

1686
01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:27,280
Speaker 1: a couple of your observations that we're gonna get back

1687
01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:29,080
Speaker 1: to you. I'm later on, we're gonna get down to

1688
01:20:29,080 --> 01:20:32,960
Speaker 1: your fifty three, which is I find it's so fun

1689
01:20:33,320 --> 01:20:35,880
Speaker 1: for me because it is a numbers game, and you

1690
01:20:36,080 --> 01:20:39,479
Speaker 1: can steal from this one and give to this one

1691
01:20:39,640 --> 01:20:41,640
Speaker 1: knowing that the snapcats aren't going to kill you on

1692
01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:43,960
Speaker 1: offense or defense regular round distance, but if you get

1693
01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:46,599
Speaker 1: a bump in special teams, it's worth to move all

1694
01:20:46,680 --> 01:20:48,920
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. Right, Let's talk a little bit

1695
01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:50,960
Speaker 1: about E. J. Gaines. He comes back to Buffalo after

1696
01:20:51,040 --> 01:20:55,160
Speaker 1: spending a year in um and what Los Angeles? Now?

1697
01:20:55,240 --> 01:20:57,200
Speaker 1: He was in Cleveland, Cleveland? There you go, he asked,

1698
01:20:57,200 --> 01:20:59,519
Speaker 1: that's right, He's spent spent a year in Cleveland between

1699
01:20:59,600 --> 01:21:02,200
Speaker 1: Stints and Buffalo. This is the guy who, most notably

1700
01:21:02,280 --> 01:21:05,120
Speaker 1: two years ago, played in eleven games for the Bills

1701
01:21:05,160 --> 01:21:06,960
Speaker 1: and they were eight and three in those games. Right,

1702
01:21:07,080 --> 01:21:09,200
Speaker 1: he gave them a little something that made them a

1703
01:21:09,240 --> 01:21:11,960
Speaker 1: little different defensively. Yeah, he was. He was definitely a

1704
01:21:12,040 --> 01:21:16,000
Speaker 1: salad starter for them and someone that I think probably

1705
01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:18,200
Speaker 1: should have done a little bit better in free agency

1706
01:21:18,280 --> 01:21:20,080
Speaker 1: that year. But it was the injuries that that kind

1707
01:21:20,080 --> 01:21:23,600
Speaker 1: of prevented him from doing so. And it's also the

1708
01:21:23,640 --> 01:21:26,479
Speaker 1: injuries popped up again in Cleveland last year. What I

1709
01:21:26,600 --> 01:21:30,120
Speaker 1: like about Gains is that, yes, he can be the

1710
01:21:30,200 --> 01:21:33,560
Speaker 1: starter if Levi Wallace does not come into it like

1711
01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:36,200
Speaker 1: you wanted him to, or same thing with Kevin Johnson.

1712
01:21:36,280 --> 01:21:38,320
Speaker 1: But what I also liked what they did with him

1713
01:21:38,439 --> 01:21:40,719
Speaker 1: even in that Ota session that we saw on Tuesday,

1714
01:21:41,400 --> 01:21:45,080
Speaker 1: was that he was working exclusively with the second team defense.

1715
01:21:45,960 --> 01:21:49,240
Speaker 1: When they were in a base two cornerback set, he

1716
01:21:49,360 --> 01:21:52,160
Speaker 1: was on the left side. When they brought in a

1717
01:21:52,320 --> 01:21:55,360
Speaker 1: slot receiver on the offense, he moved inside to nickel

1718
01:21:55,640 --> 01:21:57,720
Speaker 1: and allowed another cornerback to come in and play the left.

1719
01:21:57,760 --> 01:22:01,040
Speaker 1: So if he has that flexibility, you don't have a

1720
01:22:01,240 --> 01:22:04,960
Speaker 1: backup nickel corner to speak of behind Tarren Johnson. And

1721
01:22:05,320 --> 01:22:07,679
Speaker 1: I mean you could go with the big nickel approach

1722
01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:09,599
Speaker 1: like he did last year, but that that just didn't work.

1723
01:22:09,680 --> 01:22:11,560
Speaker 1: I think that was to a grand scale, that was

1724
01:22:11,640 --> 01:22:15,320
Speaker 1: a last resort kind of Yes, I totally agree. What

1725
01:22:15,439 --> 01:22:20,280
Speaker 1: about Tarn Johnson, he's solid, I think he is. I mean,

1726
01:22:20,479 --> 01:22:24,680
Speaker 1: he is a perfect type of player to develop at

1727
01:22:24,800 --> 01:22:27,799
Speaker 1: nickel corner because he's gonna give you great reps against

1728
01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:30,200
Speaker 1: the run. He showed he can stay with a lot

1729
01:22:30,280 --> 01:22:33,040
Speaker 1: of guys in those in those short areas and he

1730
01:22:33,160 --> 01:22:37,640
Speaker 1: doesn't get shake guys doesn't don't shake him down all

1731
01:22:37,720 --> 01:22:41,200
Speaker 1: that quickly. So I like Taron Johnson. I think he

1732
01:22:41,680 --> 01:22:44,360
Speaker 1: was a solid fourth round addition to this team and

1733
01:22:44,840 --> 01:22:47,960
Speaker 1: he played extremely well. He was for a good amount

1734
01:22:47,960 --> 01:22:50,080
Speaker 1: of time. Because I go back and great guys with

1735
01:22:50,200 --> 01:22:53,080
Speaker 1: the film. He for a good portion of the season

1736
01:22:53,200 --> 01:22:56,000
Speaker 1: when he was healthy, he was in my top ten grades.

1737
01:22:56,040 --> 01:22:58,400
Speaker 1: Why so that that's that's a testament to him. He's

1738
01:22:58,439 --> 01:23:00,400
Speaker 1: the one that he had a shoulder injury, yeah, and

1739
01:23:00,760 --> 01:23:03,320
Speaker 1: that lingered, toughed it out for a long time, and

1740
01:23:03,439 --> 01:23:06,240
Speaker 1: finally the team shut him down. I can't tell you

1741
01:23:06,320 --> 01:23:08,000
Speaker 1: how many times he would he would go and have

1742
01:23:08,120 --> 01:23:09,920
Speaker 1: a hit and then he just watched the shoulder kind

1743
01:23:09,920 --> 01:23:12,240
Speaker 1: of slumped down it. It was a dead shoulder situation.

1744
01:23:12,320 --> 01:23:14,240
Speaker 1: He needed the surgery and finally they did it. And

1745
01:23:14,560 --> 01:23:16,840
Speaker 1: they did it, I believe before the season even ended

1746
01:23:16,880 --> 01:23:20,240
Speaker 1: to get him going. He won a lot of people

1747
01:23:20,360 --> 01:23:23,880
Speaker 1: over inside the organization by his desire to stay on

1748
01:23:23,960 --> 01:23:26,760
Speaker 1: the field and play hard, and good for him as

1749
01:23:26,760 --> 01:23:30,880
Speaker 1: a rookie to come in and do that. One of

1750
01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:34,320
Speaker 1: the toughest spots to play anywhere, that's the slot corner

1751
01:23:34,360 --> 01:23:35,880
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Only did it as a rookie and

1752
01:23:36,160 --> 01:23:38,559
Speaker 1: performed very well, and you need to be that much

1753
01:23:38,600 --> 01:23:41,200
Speaker 1: better at it because teams are putting their best athletes

1754
01:23:41,240 --> 01:23:44,880
Speaker 1: at that position as the years go on, and and

1755
01:23:45,200 --> 01:23:47,760
Speaker 1: sometimes teams will use a little bit bigger corners, which

1756
01:23:47,800 --> 01:23:50,679
Speaker 1: is why it's good to have that big nickel guy

1757
01:23:50,920 --> 01:23:52,600
Speaker 1: to be able to play in that spot. And that

1758
01:23:52,720 --> 01:23:55,639
Speaker 1: might not always be Tarren Johnson. So maybe someone likes

1759
01:23:55,640 --> 01:23:58,040
Speaker 1: Saran Neil, who they drafted in the fifth round last year.

1760
01:23:58,240 --> 01:24:00,200
Speaker 1: Maybe he fits into that. He kind of as the

1761
01:24:00,240 --> 01:24:04,200
Speaker 1: profile he played I believe, safety, cornerback and linebacker at

1762
01:24:04,240 --> 01:24:07,519
Speaker 1: one point at Jacksonville State. I mean, that's that's a

1763
01:24:07,600 --> 01:24:10,320
Speaker 1: potential that they can do do with if they're going

1764
01:24:10,400 --> 01:24:13,400
Speaker 1: up against, you know, like a six foot five wide receiver,

1765
01:24:13,479 --> 01:24:15,280
Speaker 1: six foot four wide receiver with some size in that

1766
01:24:15,360 --> 01:24:19,519
Speaker 1: slot area. But by all means for the more general

1767
01:24:19,680 --> 01:24:23,320
Speaker 1: type of slot receivers in the NFL, Tarren Johnson will

1768
01:24:23,720 --> 01:24:26,720
Speaker 1: be a solid player for them. The question is is

1769
01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:29,880
Speaker 1: he going to get substantially better than what he was

1770
01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:32,760
Speaker 1: last season? Because what he was last year was really good,

1771
01:24:33,920 --> 01:24:37,960
Speaker 1: But I don't know if there's that game breaking potential

1772
01:24:38,080 --> 01:24:40,360
Speaker 1: that a lot of some other Nickel corners have. Job

1773
01:24:40,479 --> 01:24:42,800
Speaker 1: Sky's Chief Tasker, One Bill's Ie. We're talking about some

1774
01:24:42,920 --> 01:24:45,360
Speaker 1: observations from the first week of OTAs as we wind

1775
01:24:45,439 --> 01:24:49,200
Speaker 1: up that week on a Friday. Murph is out until Tuesday,

1776
01:24:49,280 --> 01:24:51,720
Speaker 1: as will I be after today? Good for you? Yeah,

1777
01:24:51,760 --> 01:24:53,800
Speaker 1: we got you got weekend plans right, I mean, yeah,

1778
01:24:53,960 --> 01:24:56,840
Speaker 1: stuff good. Sure, you don't have to get specific. I

1779
01:24:57,160 --> 01:25:00,280
Speaker 1: don't get all personal stuff. We're gonna come back next

1780
01:25:00,600 --> 01:25:02,160
Speaker 1: break right before the top of the hour. We're gonna

1781
01:25:02,160 --> 01:25:04,040
Speaker 1: talk about Robert Foster, what he brings, and then one

1782
01:25:04,160 --> 01:25:06,880
Speaker 1: last observation about Matt Milano and what he's doing to

1783
01:25:06,920 --> 01:25:09,160
Speaker 1: get back onto the football field. This is One Bills

1784
01:25:09,200 --> 01:25:11,960
Speaker 1: Live from One Bill's Drive, presented by Kalidah Health. This

1785
01:25:12,080 --> 01:25:14,200
Speaker 1: is Steve Tasker and Joe Biscali and you're on Buffalo

1786
01:25:14,280 --> 01:25:32,000
Speaker 1: Bills Radio. Welcome back to One Bill's Live. Steve Tasker

1787
01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:36,040
Speaker 1: along with Joe Biskellia. Murph's on his Friday holiday weekend,

1788
01:25:36,640 --> 01:25:41,080
Speaker 1: and we are talking about some observations Joe, you had

1789
01:25:41,200 --> 01:25:44,439
Speaker 1: during your first week of OTAs, for the Buffalo Bills.

1790
01:25:44,479 --> 01:25:46,439
Speaker 1: We had Lorenzoo Alexander on at the top of the show.

1791
01:25:46,439 --> 01:25:50,680
Speaker 1: We're also asking you fans that are listening to us

1792
01:25:51,120 --> 01:25:54,439
Speaker 1: about the biggest kept secret on the Bill's roster, best

1793
01:25:54,520 --> 01:25:58,639
Speaker 1: kept secret on the Bill's roster going into twenty nineteenth

1794
01:25:58,920 --> 01:26:04,280
Speaker 1: regular season. Taking your calls if you want. And Joe,

1795
01:26:04,320 --> 01:26:06,400
Speaker 1: we've been talking about the offensive line, we talked about

1796
01:26:06,439 --> 01:26:08,080
Speaker 1: the tight end, we talked about a little change of

1797
01:26:08,120 --> 01:26:11,760
Speaker 1: the defensive end. We talked about e J. Gaines coming

1798
01:26:11,800 --> 01:26:13,760
Speaker 1: back to the fold, and now we want to talk

1799
01:26:14,080 --> 01:26:18,080
Speaker 1: again about another young player who really exploded on the

1800
01:26:18,120 --> 01:26:22,200
Speaker 1: scene last year, undrafted rookie free agent Robert Foster. Yeah,

1801
01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:24,000
Speaker 1: what's going to happen to him this year? What do

1802
01:26:24,040 --> 01:26:26,760
Speaker 1: you expect from him? What kind of changes in his playing? Well,

1803
01:26:26,760 --> 01:26:28,360
Speaker 1: he's going to be on the team. I think that's

1804
01:26:28,400 --> 01:26:31,719
Speaker 1: the only thing that changes from last year around this time.

1805
01:26:31,880 --> 01:26:35,519
Speaker 1: But I think for him it's all in front of him.

1806
01:26:35,640 --> 01:26:37,960
Speaker 1: If he wants to be a starter, he can be

1807
01:26:38,160 --> 01:26:42,320
Speaker 1: if he dominates the spring in summer, but there is

1808
01:26:42,439 --> 01:26:45,160
Speaker 1: some legitimate competition for playing time now, it's not just

1809
01:26:45,280 --> 01:26:48,880
Speaker 1: going to be given to him. And what there are

1810
01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:51,320
Speaker 1: some things that I really liked from him in that

1811
01:26:51,600 --> 01:26:55,160
Speaker 1: opening practice. I mean, he burned past Kevin Johnson a

1812
01:26:55,200 --> 01:26:57,160
Speaker 1: couple of times and just made him look like he

1813
01:26:57,360 --> 01:27:00,320
Speaker 1: was turning in mud. But that's just the type of

1814
01:27:00,360 --> 01:27:02,160
Speaker 1: speed he has. He does that to a lot of guys.

1815
01:27:02,240 --> 01:27:06,639
Speaker 1: That's not even that's not even saying that's his wheelhouse. Yeah,

1816
01:27:06,720 --> 01:27:09,360
Speaker 1: putting it poorly for Kevin Johnson. It's just that's him,

1817
01:27:09,680 --> 01:27:11,640
Speaker 1: especially in a practice like this where he can't be

1818
01:27:11,720 --> 01:27:15,280
Speaker 1: overly physical. But the one thing he did happen, even

1819
01:27:15,320 --> 01:27:19,200
Speaker 1: though he was he was going through and really burning

1820
01:27:19,280 --> 01:27:21,560
Speaker 1: down the field, he had a few drops and that

1821
01:27:21,760 --> 01:27:23,240
Speaker 1: was kind of a thing for him in the spring

1822
01:27:23,280 --> 01:27:25,640
Speaker 1: and summer of last year. So he just has to

1823
01:27:26,240 --> 01:27:30,519
Speaker 1: find that consistency a bit more. And I know it's

1824
01:27:30,840 --> 01:27:34,000
Speaker 1: not easy with younger players, but in order for him

1825
01:27:34,040 --> 01:27:37,599
Speaker 1: to take Zay Jones or John Brown off the field,

1826
01:27:37,640 --> 01:27:39,080
Speaker 1: because those are the two spots he's going to be

1827
01:27:39,120 --> 01:27:41,560
Speaker 1: gunning for, I mean, he needs to show that he

1828
01:27:41,800 --> 01:27:46,400
Speaker 1: is a big time playmaking threatened, that he can do

1829
01:27:46,520 --> 01:27:48,519
Speaker 1: all those little things and you don't have to worry

1830
01:27:48,560 --> 01:27:52,240
Speaker 1: about the drops with him. Otherwise, Zay Jones and who

1831
01:27:52,280 --> 01:27:55,160
Speaker 1: they invested a second round picking, and John Brown, who

1832
01:27:55,200 --> 01:27:58,439
Speaker 1: they invested a substantial free agent dollars too, will continue

1833
01:27:58,479 --> 01:28:00,919
Speaker 1: to get more time. I think right now he slotted

1834
01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:04,640
Speaker 1: as the fourth wide receiver, but obviously it can be

1835
01:28:04,720 --> 01:28:07,519
Speaker 1: a fluid situation where they might just have four guys

1836
01:28:07,600 --> 01:28:10,200
Speaker 1: who just get the same amount of snaps and there

1837
01:28:10,320 --> 01:28:13,479
Speaker 1: is not really a difference between wide receiver one and

1838
01:28:13,520 --> 01:28:15,720
Speaker 1: wide receiver four. But that's all on him. It's all

1839
01:28:15,720 --> 01:28:17,479
Speaker 1: dependent on him and Zay Jones. How do you think

1840
01:28:17,479 --> 01:28:20,160
Speaker 1: about Zay Jones the second roundraft pick. I know they've

1841
01:28:20,160 --> 01:28:21,920
Speaker 1: got a lot of invested in the second round pick,

1842
01:28:22,360 --> 01:28:24,840
Speaker 1: and he did lead the team in receptions last year,

1843
01:28:26,080 --> 01:28:30,040
Speaker 1: mostly I think because he played most more than anybody else.

1844
01:28:30,960 --> 01:28:34,080
Speaker 1: But by the same token, he's a guy that he's

1845
01:28:34,080 --> 01:28:37,360
Speaker 1: just he has that or about him of an underachiever.

1846
01:28:38,200 --> 01:28:40,160
Speaker 1: How long did you know? How long did they allow

1847
01:28:40,240 --> 01:28:42,160
Speaker 1: that to go on? Yeah, if that's the case, you

1848
01:28:42,200 --> 01:28:44,160
Speaker 1: know if I don't even know if you agree with that, well,

1849
01:28:44,280 --> 01:28:47,080
Speaker 1: I think with him, he did show some strides in

1850
01:28:47,160 --> 01:28:50,559
Speaker 1: the second well really it started in in the Green Bay.

1851
01:28:50,560 --> 01:28:51,840
Speaker 1: I was gonna say the second half of the season,

1852
01:28:51,840 --> 01:28:54,040
Speaker 1: but then I disagreed with myself in my mind, it

1853
01:28:54,200 --> 01:28:56,720
Speaker 1: was the Green Bay game really in the second half

1854
01:28:56,800 --> 01:28:58,680
Speaker 1: when they were out of it, they were getting shut out,

1855
01:28:59,200 --> 01:29:02,720
Speaker 1: but he was still outworking the defender, he was still

1856
01:29:03,000 --> 01:29:05,960
Speaker 1: getting open and I feel like that was almost kind

1857
01:29:06,000 --> 01:29:08,240
Speaker 1: of when it clicked for him. I mean, he is

1858
01:29:08,320 --> 01:29:12,120
Speaker 1: a good route runner and he's finding out in the NFL.

1859
01:29:13,040 --> 01:29:15,360
Speaker 1: That is how it's going to have to happen for him.

1860
01:29:15,560 --> 01:29:18,120
Speaker 1: He's not going to burn pass people, He's not going

1861
01:29:18,200 --> 01:29:22,040
Speaker 1: to out physical people. He needs to separate in those

1862
01:29:22,720 --> 01:29:28,000
Speaker 1: intermediate to medium long areas to be able to have

1863
01:29:28,840 --> 01:29:32,280
Speaker 1: a substantial career here in Buffalo. And they are fairly

1864
01:29:32,560 --> 01:29:35,479
Speaker 1: high on him in the fact that he did make

1865
01:29:35,560 --> 01:29:37,680
Speaker 1: those strides in the second half of the season and

1866
01:29:38,160 --> 01:29:40,920
Speaker 1: started the consistency that we were talking about with Robert

1867
01:29:40,960 --> 01:29:43,400
Speaker 1: Foster started to come a little bit more. He needs

1868
01:29:43,439 --> 01:29:45,920
Speaker 1: to do away with the drops, just like Foster does,

1869
01:29:46,200 --> 01:29:49,000
Speaker 1: but he's going to get every chance. This is a

1870
01:29:49,200 --> 01:29:51,360
Speaker 1: huge season for Za Jones. It is his third year.

1871
01:29:51,479 --> 01:29:53,479
Speaker 1: This is the time where they need to figure out

1872
01:29:53,520 --> 01:29:55,000
Speaker 1: if he's going to be a part of their future

1873
01:29:55,200 --> 01:29:56,679
Speaker 1: or if he's going to be a part of their past.

1874
01:29:57,080 --> 01:29:59,840
Speaker 1: And if he doesn't show enough, then they're going to

1875
01:30:00,080 --> 01:30:02,479
Speaker 1: invest substantially in the wide receiver room. I think he

1876
01:30:02,640 --> 01:30:06,479
Speaker 1: may benefit from a change in the wide receiver room,

1877
01:30:06,560 --> 01:30:08,760
Speaker 1: not only with Cole Beasley and John Brown coming in.

1878
01:30:08,840 --> 01:30:11,160
Speaker 1: Cole Beasley coming in with I would say, quite a

1879
01:30:11,200 --> 01:30:14,280
Speaker 1: bit of credibility in this room, but also Chad Hall,

1880
01:30:14,479 --> 01:30:17,719
Speaker 1: new wide receiver coach. Last year, there was some rumblings

1881
01:30:17,760 --> 01:30:19,519
Speaker 1: about guys. You know, of course it was a different

1882
01:30:19,600 --> 01:30:22,759
Speaker 1: room and the leadership was you know, it was Kelvin

1883
01:30:22,800 --> 01:30:24,880
Speaker 1: Benjamin at that time, you know, and all these guys

1884
01:30:24,920 --> 01:30:26,960
Speaker 1: were kind of standing and Kelvin, you know, was not

1885
01:30:27,080 --> 01:30:28,719
Speaker 1: one of those guys that showed a lot of energy.

1886
01:30:29,040 --> 01:30:30,840
Speaker 1: He wasn't one of those guys that it looked like,

1887
01:30:31,080 --> 01:30:33,200
Speaker 1: you know, he was shifting gears and you know, working

1888
01:30:33,280 --> 01:30:36,280
Speaker 1: hard at it. And they also had Terry Robiski, who

1889
01:30:36,360 --> 01:30:40,640
Speaker 1: was an old veteran coach, not one of these young, energetic,

1890
01:30:40,920 --> 01:30:45,519
Speaker 1: hungry guys. Maybe that is something that Zay Jones will

1891
01:30:45,560 --> 01:30:48,439
Speaker 1: respond to in more of a positive way, because there

1892
01:30:48,520 --> 01:30:50,519
Speaker 1: was times last year where there were rumblings that these

1893
01:30:50,560 --> 01:30:53,360
Speaker 1: guys weren't even lining upright sure, you know, and that

1894
01:30:53,760 --> 01:30:56,920
Speaker 1: you know, that's just a no no. But with Zay Jones.

1895
01:30:57,040 --> 01:30:59,920
Speaker 1: He was always the one that was getting everybody lined up.

1896
01:31:00,080 --> 01:31:04,160
Speaker 1: Like I remember back when Kelvin Benjamin was still in

1897
01:31:04,240 --> 01:31:07,800
Speaker 1: Buffalo there, I mean there was the rumbling that that

1898
01:31:08,400 --> 01:31:12,080
Speaker 1: Zay Jones was helping him find his place. From a

1899
01:31:12,120 --> 01:31:14,360
Speaker 1: play to play, I mean, Zay Jones knows all three positions.

1900
01:31:14,760 --> 01:31:18,160
Speaker 1: He plays slot for them. I think he played slot

1901
01:31:18,240 --> 01:31:20,960
Speaker 1: around like I want to say, thirty to forty percent

1902
01:31:21,000 --> 01:31:24,120
Speaker 1: of the time last year or of his snaps, so

1903
01:31:24,439 --> 01:31:28,160
Speaker 1: there are he does offer that flexibility for them, which

1904
01:31:28,200 --> 01:31:30,840
Speaker 1: is why they like him. I think the path to

1905
01:31:31,880 --> 01:31:35,200
Speaker 1: the playing time, I almost feel like John Brown and

1906
01:31:35,680 --> 01:31:38,559
Speaker 1: Robert Foster are more of the same and are more

1907
01:31:38,640 --> 01:31:41,920
Speaker 1: in the mold of the same receiver, whereas Zay Jones

1908
01:31:42,040 --> 01:31:44,320
Speaker 1: kind of has a spot carved out for him because

1909
01:31:44,560 --> 01:31:47,320
Speaker 1: he's the type that, um, he's he's not going to

1910
01:31:47,360 --> 01:31:49,120
Speaker 1: beat you deep down the field, which is what you

1911
01:31:49,240 --> 01:31:51,120
Speaker 1: want out of that other side of the receiver. So

1912
01:31:51,439 --> 01:31:54,559
Speaker 1: I think there's a role for him this year. He's

1913
01:31:54,600 --> 01:31:56,320
Speaker 1: going He's going to get a lot of time on

1914
01:31:56,360 --> 01:31:59,240
Speaker 1: the field. It's I know some fans are kind of

1915
01:31:59,280 --> 01:32:01,640
Speaker 1: out on him, but the Bills are not. They are

1916
01:32:01,720 --> 01:32:05,240
Speaker 1: not in that camp and unless he does something completely

1917
01:32:05,360 --> 01:32:08,479
Speaker 1: terrible in the summer and in the preseason to where

1918
01:32:08,479 --> 01:32:10,920
Speaker 1: he just gets totally outplayed by everybody, He's going to

1919
01:32:11,000 --> 01:32:13,160
Speaker 1: be a substantial contributor to the offense, all right, And

1920
01:32:13,240 --> 01:32:14,960
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I think it's an enormous year

1921
01:32:15,040 --> 01:32:16,880
Speaker 1: for him, and there's a lot of things that need

1922
01:32:16,920 --> 01:32:19,400
Speaker 1: to be ironed out, particularly since there's gonna be some

1923
01:32:19,479 --> 01:32:22,320
Speaker 1: credible threats around him, not just some question marks, but

1924
01:32:22,360 --> 01:32:24,120
Speaker 1: they're gonna be some guys who are going to be

1925
01:32:24,200 --> 01:32:26,200
Speaker 1: working hard at the aircraft and getting better and he's

1926
01:32:26,240 --> 01:32:28,639
Speaker 1: gonna have to maybe fight for some opportunity. The interesting

1927
01:32:28,680 --> 01:32:30,880
Speaker 1: to see how that plays out. Job as Scalia Steve Tasker,

1928
01:32:31,120 --> 01:32:32,479
Speaker 1: We're gonna come back at the top of the hour.

1929
01:32:32,479 --> 01:32:39,920
Speaker 1: We're gonna start to talk about the entire fifty three numbers, graphs, charts, spreadsheets.

1930
01:32:41,240 --> 01:32:43,439
Speaker 1: It's fine and Joe, you and I both loved I

1931
01:32:43,560 --> 01:32:45,840
Speaker 1: love doing it because roster construction is one of the

1932
01:32:45,880 --> 01:32:48,439
Speaker 1: things that makes the league ticks, all right. Joba Scalia

1933
01:32:48,479 --> 01:32:50,800
Speaker 1: is Steve Tasker on One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive.

1934
01:32:50,880 --> 01:32:54,080
Speaker 1: This is presented by Kalidah Health and this is Buffalo

1935
01:32:54,160 --> 01:33:10,439
Speaker 1: Bills Radio, Hills Radio Network. Fort Dame Adam Pacman Jones

1936
01:33:10,479 --> 01:33:13,080
Speaker 1: announced yesterday of social media that he is retiring after

1937
01:33:13,160 --> 01:33:15,760
Speaker 1: twelve seasons in the NFL. The cornerback entered the league

1938
01:33:15,800 --> 01:33:17,760
Speaker 1: in two thousand and five as a first round draft

1939
01:33:17,840 --> 01:33:21,000
Speaker 1: pick out of West Virginia with the Tennessee Titans. The

1940
01:33:21,080 --> 01:33:24,000
Speaker 1: Buccaneers announced yesterday that they've agreed to terms with veteran

1941
01:33:24,080 --> 01:33:27,559
Speaker 1: defensive tackle and Dominican Sue. Sue is signing a one year,

1942
01:33:27,760 --> 01:33:31,320
Speaker 1: nine point two five million dollars deal that, with incentives,

1943
01:33:31,360 --> 01:33:34,840
Speaker 1: could be worth up to ten million. The San Francisco

1944
01:33:34,880 --> 01:33:37,160
Speaker 1: forty nine ers will be without second overall pick of

1945
01:33:37,200 --> 01:33:41,240
Speaker 1: the twenty nineteen NFL draft, defensive end Nick Bosa, who

1946
01:33:41,400 --> 01:33:44,559
Speaker 1: is dealing with a Grade one hamstring strain. Bosa will

1947
01:33:44,600 --> 01:33:46,479
Speaker 1: be out of practice for the next few weeks while

1948
01:33:46,600 --> 01:33:52,080
Speaker 1: receiving treatment. Bengals will start the season without guard Alex Redmond.

1949
01:33:52,120 --> 01:33:55,120
Speaker 1: The NFL suspended Redmond for four games for violating the

1950
01:33:55,200 --> 01:33:59,200
Speaker 1: league's performance enhancing drug policy. Redmond had recently resigned a

1951
01:33:59,280 --> 01:34:02,519
Speaker 1: one year deal return to Cincinnati as an exclusive rights

1952
01:34:02,560 --> 01:34:05,680
Speaker 1: free agent. The Raptors beat the Bucks one hundred and

1953
01:34:05,680 --> 01:34:07,720
Speaker 1: five to ninety nine to take a three two lead

1954
01:34:07,800 --> 01:34:10,519
Speaker 1: in the Eastern Conference Finals. Kawhi Leonard scored thirty five

1955
01:34:10,600 --> 01:34:13,599
Speaker 1: points in the victory, and Fred Van Fleet got twenty

1956
01:34:13,640 --> 01:34:17,000
Speaker 1: one and hit seven threes. Kyle Lowry added seventeen for

1957
01:34:17,080 --> 01:34:19,559
Speaker 1: the Raptors. The Bisons are coming off a four three

1958
01:34:19,680 --> 01:34:22,360
Speaker 1: victory over the Rochester Red Wings last night as they

1959
01:34:22,439 --> 01:34:25,599
Speaker 1: head to Lehigh Valley for the holiday weekend. First Pitch

1960
01:34:25,760 --> 01:34:29,760
Speaker 1: is tonight at seven o five pm. Welcome to One

1961
01:34:29,800 --> 01:34:32,960
Speaker 1: Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Health, brought to you from

1962
01:34:33,040 --> 01:34:37,160
Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive Steve Task along with Joe Biscalia. Joe,

1963
01:34:37,280 --> 01:34:41,559
Speaker 1: we're talking about you know, we've been talking about your

1964
01:34:41,720 --> 01:34:45,479
Speaker 1: observations over the last week, first week of OTAs. It's

1965
01:34:45,520 --> 01:34:48,080
Speaker 1: been interesting to talk about some of the stories and

1966
01:34:48,160 --> 01:34:52,840
Speaker 1: some of the human drama of athletic competition. But it's

1967
01:34:52,880 --> 01:34:54,640
Speaker 1: been fun. But one of the fun things about this

1968
01:34:54,760 --> 01:34:59,680
Speaker 1: whole exercise is when you finally get down to really no,

1969
01:35:00,360 --> 01:35:01,920
Speaker 1: at some point you're gonna have to say goodbye to

1970
01:35:02,000 --> 01:35:04,360
Speaker 1: some of these guys. Yeah, that's the part of it

1971
01:35:04,479 --> 01:35:08,519
Speaker 1: that doesn't always end well because a lot of fans

1972
01:35:08,640 --> 01:35:11,840
Speaker 1: developed these favorites, like I don't know, Duke Williams, is

1973
01:35:11,880 --> 01:35:13,839
Speaker 1: a guy that a lot of people like. David Sills

1974
01:35:13,960 --> 01:35:16,040
Speaker 1: is someone that a lot of people like. I mean,

1975
01:35:16,120 --> 01:35:19,479
Speaker 1: there are loads of examples that are going to end

1976
01:35:19,560 --> 01:35:21,160
Speaker 1: up on the cutting room floor. Here's the thing, the

1977
01:35:21,240 --> 01:35:24,720
Speaker 1: interesting thing they it's May twenty fourth, Okay, so let's

1978
01:35:24,720 --> 01:35:26,840
Speaker 1: just pump the brakes a little bit on halfsolute. How

1979
01:35:26,880 --> 01:35:28,519
Speaker 1: set in stone this is. But I will say this

1980
01:35:29,439 --> 01:35:33,160
Speaker 1: in my guy Joe's defense. Last year his way Too

1981
01:35:33,240 --> 01:35:36,599
Speaker 1: Early projection had forty eight out of the fifty two

1982
01:35:36,680 --> 01:35:39,639
Speaker 1: guys on the roster, folks, forty eight out of fifty two.

1983
01:35:40,880 --> 01:35:44,639
Speaker 1: So and that's not until early September. So hey, that's

1984
01:35:44,960 --> 01:35:48,200
Speaker 1: pretty good batting average. Right. You know what, a blind

1985
01:35:48,280 --> 01:35:50,439
Speaker 1: squirrel finds an acorn every once in a while, right, listen,

1986
01:35:50,479 --> 01:35:52,519
Speaker 1: you found forty eight acorns. Man, What can I say?

1987
01:35:52,560 --> 01:35:55,200
Speaker 1: Out of fifty two? That was pretty good? You got

1988
01:35:55,520 --> 01:35:57,519
Speaker 1: and you you were right too. You had Marcus you

1989
01:35:57,560 --> 01:36:01,840
Speaker 1: missed Marcus Murphy, Robert Foster, we all missed him, Jason Croome,

1990
01:36:01,880 --> 01:36:04,760
Speaker 1: we didn't getting Dion Lacey. And a lot of that

1991
01:36:05,000 --> 01:36:09,879
Speaker 1: was because you know, they had substantial spring and summers

1992
01:36:10,240 --> 01:36:12,719
Speaker 1: before before I could get a chance to release after

1993
01:36:13,200 --> 01:36:15,759
Speaker 1: like Marcus Murphy came out of nowhere, Robert Foster stepped

1994
01:36:15,800 --> 01:36:18,120
Speaker 1: it up at the end of the preseason. Who is

1995
01:36:18,160 --> 01:36:21,160
Speaker 1: the other one, Jason Crume and Dion Lacy. That's right.

1996
01:36:21,280 --> 01:36:24,840
Speaker 1: Jason Crume really came out of nowhere in the summer

1997
01:36:24,960 --> 01:36:27,160
Speaker 1: last year and earned a roster spot. And here's the

1998
01:36:27,240 --> 01:36:29,519
Speaker 1: four guys that you had making the roster that didn't

1999
01:36:29,560 --> 01:36:33,000
Speaker 1: as Austin Prole, Nico Leary, which was probably a good pick,

2000
01:36:33,120 --> 01:36:36,960
Speaker 1: I mean, and then Tanner Vallejo draft pick, and Breon Border.

2001
01:36:37,040 --> 01:36:40,000
Speaker 1: If it wasn't for Jason Croome, Nico Leary would have

2002
01:36:40,000 --> 01:36:42,400
Speaker 1: been on the roster. Tanner Vallejo was a former draft

2003
01:36:42,439 --> 01:36:46,080
Speaker 1: pick of the Bills, and Dion Lacy made him expendable

2004
01:36:46,080 --> 01:36:49,040
Speaker 1: because Vallejo also didn't have the positional flexibility. And then

2005
01:36:49,120 --> 01:36:51,040
Speaker 1: Breon Borders. That was a swinging amiss by me. I

2006
01:36:51,080 --> 01:36:53,360
Speaker 1: thought he had potential. He was, he was long, it

2007
01:36:53,479 --> 01:36:56,760
Speaker 1: looked like he had some ability in the preseason with

2008
01:36:56,880 --> 01:36:59,880
Speaker 1: Oakland the year before that. Just to swing at amiss

2009
01:37:00,000 --> 01:37:02,519
Speaker 1: all right, there you go, so there and you just happens. Yeah,

2010
01:37:02,560 --> 01:37:04,720
Speaker 1: four guys out of the fifty two is pretty good.

2011
01:37:04,760 --> 01:37:07,320
Speaker 1: Batmant just missing that's a good job. So we're gonna

2012
01:37:07,320 --> 01:37:09,200
Speaker 1: go down the list that you have, and we also

2013
01:37:09,240 --> 01:37:11,200
Speaker 1: got the roster, and this roster as you have it

2014
01:37:11,320 --> 01:37:16,320
Speaker 1: currently constructed, will be fifty three three guys. Yeah. The

2015
01:37:16,560 --> 01:37:18,439
Speaker 1: reason why I put out of fifty two is because

2016
01:37:18,439 --> 01:37:20,360
Speaker 1: I had a J. McCarron in there last year, but

2017
01:37:20,400 --> 01:37:22,920
Speaker 1: they traded him right and they only kept fifty two

2018
01:37:23,040 --> 01:37:26,880
Speaker 1: guys heading in right after the initial So so yeah,

2019
01:37:26,920 --> 01:37:29,559
Speaker 1: fifty three guys, twenty five on offense, twenty five on defense,

2020
01:37:29,640 --> 01:37:32,719
Speaker 1: three special teamers. And you know what I'm excited about, Steve,

2021
01:37:33,240 --> 01:37:36,880
Speaker 1: I'm excited about the punt battle between Corey Bjorkez and

2022
01:37:36,960 --> 01:37:41,360
Speaker 1: Corey Carter. Corey versus Corey pretty great. Yeah, hold onto

2023
01:37:41,400 --> 01:37:44,160
Speaker 1: your hats and that one. Yeah, pardon me for signing

2024
01:37:44,200 --> 01:37:47,760
Speaker 1: on that. I will. I think I think Borkes has

2025
01:37:47,840 --> 01:37:52,400
Speaker 1: got a chance to be really good. I think, yeah,

2026
01:37:52,479 --> 01:37:54,360
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be really good. He's really got

2027
01:37:54,400 --> 01:37:56,240
Speaker 1: a big leg, he seems to have all the punts,

2028
01:37:56,320 --> 01:37:58,280
Speaker 1: he seems to be able to do it. But there

2029
01:37:58,360 --> 01:38:01,120
Speaker 1: were a couple, you know, particularly the fake field goal

2030
01:38:01,160 --> 01:38:03,800
Speaker 1: that he had last year that went around yea, that

2031
01:38:03,920 --> 01:38:07,439
Speaker 1: seems a little bit flighty. He's got to calm down,

2032
01:38:07,520 --> 01:38:09,040
Speaker 1: take a deep breath, and start to act like a

2033
01:38:09,160 --> 01:38:11,439
Speaker 1: veteran out there who's who's seen some stuff. But I'll

2034
01:38:11,439 --> 01:38:15,240
Speaker 1: tell you what, Corey Carter, had he not got had

2035
01:38:15,280 --> 01:38:18,720
Speaker 1: he stayed healthy and didn't have that terrible injury in

2036
01:38:18,760 --> 01:38:21,400
Speaker 1: the preseason game where a guy basically tackled him while

2037
01:38:21,439 --> 01:38:23,439
Speaker 1: his leg was up, I think he would have won

2038
01:38:23,479 --> 01:38:26,559
Speaker 1: the job last year. So this is why he's here.

2039
01:38:27,040 --> 01:38:29,679
Speaker 1: I say it only half in jest. I'm only half

2040
01:38:29,760 --> 01:38:32,840
Speaker 1: kidding because I'm actually really interested. This is a wide

2041
01:38:32,840 --> 01:38:35,400
Speaker 1: open punter job. But yeah, I'm sure people want to

2042
01:38:35,439 --> 01:38:39,160
Speaker 1: hear about things other than the punter with with the roster, right, well,

2043
01:38:39,320 --> 01:38:42,599
Speaker 1: we'll see, we'll find out, right, We're gonna let's start

2044
01:38:42,600 --> 01:38:44,880
Speaker 1: with a quarterback, of course, Josh Allen Matt Barkley. That

2045
01:38:44,920 --> 01:38:47,599
Speaker 1: seems pretty straightforward, right yeah, I mean, the only one

2046
01:38:47,680 --> 01:38:51,960
Speaker 1: that I think, and we're talking about players that fans

2047
01:38:52,280 --> 01:38:54,639
Speaker 1: would want to see make the team. I mean, Tyree Jackson,

2048
01:38:55,000 --> 01:38:57,880
Speaker 1: is the story is there? You be guy? I mean,

2049
01:38:57,960 --> 01:39:00,439
Speaker 1: it's it's pretty clear that he has a lot of

2050
01:39:00,479 --> 01:39:03,160
Speaker 1: public backing in the area based on how well you

2051
01:39:03,280 --> 01:39:05,400
Speaker 1: be played last season. Making the Bowl game the way

2052
01:39:05,439 --> 01:39:09,680
Speaker 1: that they did. But the thing of it is, the

2053
01:39:09,800 --> 01:39:14,719
Speaker 1: only way you're keeping Tyree Jackson is if he truly

2054
01:39:15,400 --> 01:39:17,479
Speaker 1: looks like he needs to be kept to where you

2055
01:39:18,000 --> 01:39:20,200
Speaker 1: don't think you there's a shot you can get him on.

2056
01:39:21,160 --> 01:39:23,760
Speaker 1: He's gonna have three preseason games where he's gonna take

2057
01:39:23,760 --> 01:39:26,439
Speaker 1: a ton of snaps. Yes, absolutely, and he comes out

2058
01:39:26,520 --> 01:39:29,920
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden lights it up. Then that

2059
01:39:30,000 --> 01:39:33,320
Speaker 1: forces you're got a problem. Yeah, it forces your hand absolutely,

2060
01:39:33,720 --> 01:39:37,240
Speaker 1: But then you're in a spot where you're taking a

2061
01:39:37,400 --> 01:39:40,360
Speaker 1: third quarterback. And by the way, this is a Bill's

2062
01:39:40,400 --> 01:39:43,400
Speaker 1: team that in the past two years have only gone

2063
01:39:43,439 --> 01:39:47,280
Speaker 1: into the season with two quarterbacks. In twenty seventeen it

2064
01:39:47,400 --> 01:39:50,240
Speaker 1: was Tyrod and Nathan Peterman. Last year it was Nathan

2065
01:39:50,280 --> 01:39:52,840
Speaker 1: Peterman and Josh Allen. And not to say that it

2066
01:39:53,000 --> 01:39:55,759
Speaker 1: was a great idea because it ended up coming because

2067
01:39:55,880 --> 01:39:58,800
Speaker 1: they had Nathan Peterman on the roster, but they are

2068
01:39:58,920 --> 01:40:01,960
Speaker 1: not afraid of doing that. So in order for Tyree

2069
01:40:02,080 --> 01:40:04,760
Speaker 1: Jackson to make the team, he would he would have

2070
01:40:04,920 --> 01:40:07,880
Speaker 1: to be, you know, at best, to start the season

2071
01:40:08,520 --> 01:40:12,160
Speaker 1: inactive every single week when that roster spot could go

2072
01:40:12,680 --> 01:40:15,679
Speaker 1: elsewhere to someone that can help your special teams, which

2073
01:40:15,760 --> 01:40:18,640
Speaker 1: is which is very and we've seen Sean McDermott do

2074
01:40:18,760 --> 01:40:20,920
Speaker 1: this a lot with his roster and Brandon being the same.

2075
01:40:21,479 --> 01:40:26,599
Speaker 1: They believe very much so in keeping special team core

2076
01:40:26,720 --> 01:40:29,960
Speaker 1: guys that may not give you a ton on offense

2077
01:40:30,120 --> 01:40:32,519
Speaker 1: or defense. I mean that it might not be the

2078
01:40:32,640 --> 01:40:34,679
Speaker 1: best way to go about it, but that's their belief

2079
01:40:35,160 --> 01:40:38,120
Speaker 1: and so that's why Tyree Jackson is going to have

2080
01:40:38,200 --> 01:40:40,240
Speaker 1: to look pretty good this summer in order to warrant

2081
01:40:40,280 --> 01:40:42,000
Speaker 1: a roster spot. I think yeah, and I think too,

2082
01:40:42,040 --> 01:40:45,680
Speaker 1: we're gonna get so I agree with you. There's no

2083
01:40:45,800 --> 01:40:47,400
Speaker 1: way Tyree Jackson is going to come in and can

2084
01:40:47,520 --> 01:40:50,120
Speaker 1: look possibly good enough to like start games or take

2085
01:40:50,160 --> 01:40:52,960
Speaker 1: over for Matt Barkley doesn't have the experience. It's not

2086
01:40:53,200 --> 01:40:55,320
Speaker 1: the role of the backup quarterback is going to play

2087
01:40:55,320 --> 01:40:57,320
Speaker 1: and he certainly don't look for him to take over

2088
01:40:57,439 --> 01:41:00,320
Speaker 1: for Josh Allen anytime within the next ten years. So

2089
01:41:01,160 --> 01:41:03,160
Speaker 1: it might be a point where, yeah, you can try

2090
01:41:03,200 --> 01:41:05,120
Speaker 1: him on the practice squad. If he goes away, you know,

2091
01:41:05,640 --> 01:41:07,840
Speaker 1: we don't have a spot form for the next theoretically

2092
01:41:08,240 --> 01:41:11,680
Speaker 1: for the next fifteen years. Anyway, maybe we can trade him.

2093
01:41:11,960 --> 01:41:15,080
Speaker 1: Who knows but that be it. That being said, the

2094
01:41:15,200 --> 01:41:17,840
Speaker 1: quarterback spot is pretty much set, no question about it.

2095
01:41:17,960 --> 01:41:20,760
Speaker 1: Let's go to running backs. You've got Lashawn McCoy, Frank Gore,

2096
01:41:20,880 --> 01:41:25,400
Speaker 1: Devin Singletary, pretty straightforward. Then it's Sonoras Perry and Patrick

2097
01:41:25,520 --> 01:41:28,600
Speaker 1: DeMarco with t J. Yeldon being cut. Yes, this is

2098
01:41:28,640 --> 01:41:31,240
Speaker 1: a hunch of mine, and you know some with with

2099
01:41:31,560 --> 01:41:35,200
Speaker 1: when you do these far too early. I'd even go

2100
01:41:35,280 --> 01:41:38,040
Speaker 1: as far as saying it's stupid because he spent way

2101
01:41:38,080 --> 01:41:39,960
Speaker 1: too much time doing it. Because you like doing it

2102
01:41:40,200 --> 01:41:43,439
Speaker 1: as also true and because people like reading it too. Yeah,

2103
01:41:43,720 --> 01:41:45,160
Speaker 1: that's part of it too. I want to see how

2104
01:41:45,160 --> 01:41:47,200
Speaker 1: the team could shake out, but you also have to

2105
01:41:47,240 --> 01:41:50,280
Speaker 1: play a hunch every once and again, right and for

2106
01:41:50,439 --> 01:41:53,519
Speaker 1: me when when when we talked about the special teams, Guys,

2107
01:41:54,080 --> 01:41:57,840
Speaker 1: that's what Sonris Perry is right. If Devin Singletary wasn't

2108
01:41:57,880 --> 01:41:59,599
Speaker 1: drafted by the Bills, if they don't take a running

2109
01:41:59,600 --> 01:42:01,280
Speaker 1: back with the first four rounds, I think t J.

2110
01:42:01,400 --> 01:42:04,519
Speaker 1: Yelden's probably safely on this roster and I wouldn't really

2111
01:42:04,720 --> 01:42:08,280
Speaker 1: think too much about it past that. But because Singletary

2112
01:42:08,360 --> 01:42:10,599
Speaker 1: is there, because Frank Or is there, because Lashawn McCoy

2113
01:42:10,720 --> 01:42:13,479
Speaker 1: is there. I mean that fourth running back that you

2114
01:42:13,600 --> 01:42:16,800
Speaker 1: keep is going to have to contribute on special teams.

2115
01:42:16,920 --> 01:42:20,880
Speaker 1: It is almost a requirement of that running back spot.

2116
01:42:21,240 --> 01:42:24,519
Speaker 1: And so that's why sonoras Perry, who that is where

2117
01:42:24,600 --> 01:42:27,200
Speaker 1: he cuts his teeth. That is his role in the NFL.

2118
01:42:27,360 --> 01:42:30,840
Speaker 1: That is what he has been and that's his reputation.

2119
01:42:31,320 --> 01:42:34,559
Speaker 1: So that's why I have Perry in and yelled an out.

2120
01:42:35,080 --> 01:42:38,840
Speaker 1: But and certainly people will be like, well, Yeldon signed

2121
01:42:38,880 --> 01:42:40,479
Speaker 1: a two year deal, why would you cut him after

2122
01:42:41,040 --> 01:42:43,200
Speaker 1: after training camp? Well, the two year deal is really

2123
01:42:43,240 --> 01:42:44,840
Speaker 1: only a one year deal that they can get out

2124
01:42:44,840 --> 01:42:47,000
Speaker 1: of with a with a minimal dead cap hit exactly.

2125
01:42:47,479 --> 01:42:49,120
Speaker 1: So we'll talk about the running backs. We've got a

2126
01:42:49,160 --> 01:42:51,960
Speaker 1: call from Dave in Florida. Dave wants to talk to

2127
01:42:52,080 --> 01:42:54,760
Speaker 1: us about Frank Gore. Talking about running backs. Who's going

2128
01:42:54,840 --> 01:42:56,840
Speaker 1: to make the team. We've got Lashawn McCoy, Frank Gore,

2129
01:42:56,960 --> 01:43:00,599
Speaker 1: Devin Singletary, Snorris Perry. Dave, what do you think about

2130
01:43:01,000 --> 01:43:03,080
Speaker 1: Frank Gore and his ability to help the Buffalo Bills?

2131
01:43:03,120 --> 01:43:06,479
Speaker 1: What's your what's your thought? All right, Steve, Joe, guy's

2132
01:43:06,520 --> 01:43:09,760
Speaker 1: doing great, doing great. Thanks for calling, all right, great. Listen.

2133
01:43:09,840 --> 01:43:13,200
Speaker 1: I've been a Bills fan forever my whole life. I

2134
01:43:13,479 --> 01:43:15,960
Speaker 1: down here in Florida and I follow Frank Goren. He's

2135
01:43:16,000 --> 01:43:19,479
Speaker 1: at um. I think everybody's overlooking a guy now because

2136
01:43:19,520 --> 01:43:21,920
Speaker 1: of his age. This guy is one of the best

2137
01:43:22,040 --> 01:43:25,760
Speaker 1: blocking backs in the NFL, and I think he's the

2138
01:43:25,800 --> 01:43:30,080
Speaker 1: one that's going to help the offensive line, protect Josh

2139
01:43:30,160 --> 01:43:33,960
Speaker 1: Allen and help Shandy McCoy make all his moves out

2140
01:43:34,000 --> 01:43:36,960
Speaker 1: of sweeps. This is my opinion. No one talks to

2141
01:43:37,000 --> 01:43:39,200
Speaker 1: him a lot about him, but that's the guy. Okay,

2142
01:43:39,560 --> 01:43:42,639
Speaker 1: Thanks day and a nice holiday. You got a question

2143
01:43:42,680 --> 01:43:44,600
Speaker 1: for me. No, it's good, Dave, I got it, And

2144
01:43:44,880 --> 01:43:46,200
Speaker 1: let me tell you before I hang up on you,

2145
01:43:46,240 --> 01:43:48,080
Speaker 1: I agree with you. That's awesome. Thanks for the call.

2146
01:43:49,520 --> 01:43:52,400
Speaker 1: He's right. I saw Frank Gore play a little bit

2147
01:43:52,520 --> 01:43:54,800
Speaker 1: last year in Miami, and he was brought in by

2148
01:43:54,840 --> 01:43:56,680
Speaker 1: Adam Gas. Last year. You know, they were trying to

2149
01:43:56,760 --> 01:43:59,920
Speaker 1: kind of build a culture over there. Adam Gas brought

2150
01:44:00,080 --> 01:44:02,519
Speaker 1: Frank Goren just for that because he was a leader,

2151
01:44:03,240 --> 01:44:05,400
Speaker 1: a veteran guy. He knew how hard he worked, he

2152
01:44:05,479 --> 01:44:07,439
Speaker 1: knew what it took to put together a kind of

2153
01:44:08,360 --> 01:44:10,680
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame type career that Frank Gore has, So

2154
01:44:10,760 --> 01:44:12,680
Speaker 1: that's why he brought him in and then and then

2155
01:44:13,439 --> 01:44:15,760
Speaker 1: they were handing him the football a bunch because that's

2156
01:44:15,800 --> 01:44:17,960
Speaker 1: the kind of back he is. Yeah, they scaled him

2157
01:44:18,000 --> 01:44:21,000
Speaker 1: down from what he did in Indianapolis, which was smart

2158
01:44:21,120 --> 01:44:24,760
Speaker 1: because at that age, with that that many miles on

2159
01:44:24,840 --> 01:44:28,320
Speaker 1: the tire, so to speak, he just couldn't handle that.

2160
01:44:28,600 --> 01:44:31,840
Speaker 1: But what you saw was a guy who on I

2161
01:44:31,920 --> 01:44:34,679
Speaker 1: think one hundred and fifty carries around around that range,

2162
01:44:34,840 --> 01:44:37,080
Speaker 1: he flourished. I mean, I think his yards per carriers

2163
01:44:37,080 --> 01:44:39,800
Speaker 1: like four point six last year, which how old is he?

2164
01:44:39,960 --> 01:44:44,040
Speaker 1: Thirty six? He's thirty six now, I mean you don't

2165
01:44:44,280 --> 01:44:47,719
Speaker 1: often see that. And when going back and actually watching

2166
01:44:47,960 --> 01:44:50,320
Speaker 1: his games, the reps that he ran, he wasn't moving

2167
01:44:50,360 --> 01:44:53,800
Speaker 1: around like he's he. I mean, he can still jump

2168
01:44:53,880 --> 01:44:57,080
Speaker 1: cut people, he still has the speed to get through,

2169
01:44:57,240 --> 01:45:00,800
Speaker 1: he has, he has power, he's going. He's essentially a

2170
01:45:01,560 --> 01:45:04,559
Speaker 1: great complimentary back to what they're doing as long as

2171
01:45:04,880 --> 01:45:07,400
Speaker 1: what he did last year holds on. And I agree

2172
01:45:07,400 --> 01:45:09,640
Speaker 1: with with the caller in the fact that you know,

2173
01:45:09,840 --> 01:45:12,160
Speaker 1: this is someone who is a lot stronger of a

2174
01:45:12,240 --> 01:45:16,120
Speaker 1: blocker on third down situations than Lashaw McCoy is, and

2175
01:45:16,600 --> 01:45:19,160
Speaker 1: that could be a path to playing time, because then

2176
01:45:19,320 --> 01:45:21,960
Speaker 1: teams would definitely have to respect the run because they

2177
01:45:22,000 --> 01:45:25,680
Speaker 1: weren't really respecting Mike Tolbert a couple of years ago, right.

2178
01:45:25,760 --> 01:45:28,880
Speaker 1: They weren't really respecting Chris Ivory a ton last year,

2179
01:45:28,920 --> 01:45:31,840
Speaker 1: even though Ivory played a little bit better than expected.

2180
01:45:32,640 --> 01:45:36,240
Speaker 1: But Gore, Gore's a different story. And I think he's

2181
01:45:36,280 --> 01:45:38,280
Speaker 1: going to help us, help the room a lot. And

2182
01:45:38,320 --> 01:45:40,120
Speaker 1: I think that's exactly right. I think they're gonna bring

2183
01:45:40,200 --> 01:45:42,559
Speaker 1: Gore in, have him carry the ball one hundred and fifty,

2184
01:45:42,600 --> 01:45:44,800
Speaker 1: maybe one hundred and seventy five times a game, not

2185
01:45:44,920 --> 01:45:46,720
Speaker 1: even maybe less than one hundred and six, less than

2186
01:45:46,760 --> 01:45:49,960
Speaker 1: ten got times a game, let's say. Yeah, and also

2187
01:45:50,160 --> 01:45:53,240
Speaker 1: but also be on the field more than that as

2188
01:45:53,320 --> 01:45:56,120
Speaker 1: a decoy and also as a blocker, as a as

2189
01:45:56,160 --> 01:45:58,160
Speaker 1: a what has and a receiver that kind of thing,

2190
01:45:58,920 --> 01:46:01,880
Speaker 1: what thing that this does? You're by bringing him in

2191
01:46:02,080 --> 01:46:06,200
Speaker 1: and then putting Snorus Perry on the roster, Marcus Murphy

2192
01:46:06,280 --> 01:46:09,160
Speaker 1: goes away, yes, after a pretty solid year. Christian Wade

2193
01:46:09,200 --> 01:46:11,599
Speaker 1: of course probably won't make this roster. Yeah, and then

2194
01:46:11,800 --> 01:46:14,080
Speaker 1: then he's your eleventh practice squad guy. Right, you get

2195
01:46:14,120 --> 01:46:16,559
Speaker 1: a free look exactly. It's fun to watch, by the way, Exactly.

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01:46:16,560 --> 01:46:18,559
Speaker 1: He's got some ability. Yeah, he can, he can move

2197
01:46:18,600 --> 01:46:20,519
Speaker 1: in space. But I don't I don't know that he's

2198
01:46:20,520 --> 01:46:22,120
Speaker 1: got a path through the roster this year. But yeah,

2199
01:46:22,160 --> 01:46:24,160
Speaker 1: I think I think Frank Gore's is a smart signing.

2200
01:46:24,160 --> 01:46:25,680
Speaker 1: He's gonna be productive that are not going to use

2201
01:46:25,760 --> 01:46:28,240
Speaker 1: him to carry the ball two hundred times, but for

2202
01:46:28,360 --> 01:46:31,200
Speaker 1: less than ten times to carry it five and a

2203
01:46:31,280 --> 01:46:33,320
Speaker 1: half yards of carry. Yeah, you gotta have that guy

2204
01:46:33,360 --> 01:46:35,080
Speaker 1: in your roster. Okay, so you got two quarterbacks and

2205
01:46:35,160 --> 01:46:38,200
Speaker 1: five running backs. Wide receivers you got five guys, which

2206
01:46:38,240 --> 01:46:40,559
Speaker 1: this is always a juggle. You'd love to keep as

2207
01:46:40,600 --> 01:46:42,320
Speaker 1: many wide outs as you can because it gives you

2208
01:46:42,400 --> 01:46:45,600
Speaker 1: some flexibility in your offensive formations and your concepts that

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01:46:45,680 --> 01:46:47,840
Speaker 1: you can run. But five wide outs. You got John Brown,

2210
01:46:47,960 --> 01:46:50,360
Speaker 1: Cole Beasley, the two free agents, of course, then you

2211
01:46:50,439 --> 01:46:54,040
Speaker 1: got Zay Jones, Robert Foster and Andre Roberts also signed

2212
01:46:54,080 --> 01:46:55,960
Speaker 1: in a free agent in the free agent realm. But

2213
01:46:56,320 --> 01:46:59,160
Speaker 1: the reason why you only keep five there is because

2214
01:46:59,439 --> 01:47:01,920
Speaker 1: there are so many other positions that require a spot

2215
01:47:02,360 --> 01:47:06,080
Speaker 1: and I'm not ruling out them. Keeping six or even

2216
01:47:06,200 --> 01:47:08,240
Speaker 1: seven receivers. It's gonna be tough to keep seven with

2217
01:47:08,320 --> 01:47:10,160
Speaker 1: the way the rest of the roster is shaking out.

2218
01:47:10,240 --> 01:47:12,040
Speaker 1: But if you can, you can talk yourself in and

2219
01:47:12,160 --> 01:47:14,479
Speaker 1: keeping six. But the thing is one of those guys

2220
01:47:14,560 --> 01:47:18,679
Speaker 1: that you're cutting from the pool of Duke Williams, Victor Bolden,

2221
01:47:19,080 --> 01:47:24,320
Speaker 1: Isaiah McKenzie, Ray, Ray McLeod, David Sills, Nick Easley, even

2222
01:47:24,760 --> 01:47:29,040
Speaker 1: um who's who's an undrafted slot guy out of Iowa. Yeah,

2223
01:47:29,400 --> 01:47:32,040
Speaker 1: Cam Phillips and Damari Scott, by the way, both had

2224
01:47:32,040 --> 01:47:34,240
Speaker 1: a cup of coffee on the active roster last year

2225
01:47:34,320 --> 01:47:37,160
Speaker 1: for the Bills. So I mean there are there are

2226
01:47:37,240 --> 01:47:40,400
Speaker 1: some guys that that you can talk yourself into. I mean,

2227
01:47:40,520 --> 01:47:43,840
Speaker 1: Victor Bolden is is someone that you should probably think

2228
01:47:43,880 --> 01:47:47,120
Speaker 1: about just because he is showing some signs of life

2229
01:47:47,160 --> 01:47:52,720
Speaker 1: in the spring. But how can you, I guess, come

2230
01:47:52,760 --> 01:47:57,680
Speaker 1: to terms with not with with not keeping someone from

2231
01:47:57,720 --> 01:48:01,599
Speaker 1: a different position. I mean, it's not about receiver versus receiver.

2232
01:48:02,040 --> 01:48:06,080
Speaker 1: It's about receiver versus safety, receiver versus cornerback, receiver versus

2233
01:48:06,479 --> 01:48:10,200
Speaker 1: I don't know, linebacker, offensive lineman. What adds your value

2234
01:48:10,200 --> 01:48:12,080
Speaker 1: to the team. It's about your ability to go four

2235
01:48:12,200 --> 01:48:16,280
Speaker 1: wide and not oncial teams too, right, and not only

2236
01:48:16,479 --> 01:48:19,000
Speaker 1: going four wide, but if you're gonna go four wide,

2237
01:48:20,439 --> 01:48:23,040
Speaker 1: no tight end, So whoever is your tight ends off

2238
01:48:23,080 --> 01:48:25,320
Speaker 1: the field or you got one tight end on no

2239
01:48:25,439 --> 01:48:28,600
Speaker 1: running back on the right, so there's no room. So

2240
01:48:28,800 --> 01:48:32,240
Speaker 1: and the question is do you have four wides that

2241
01:48:33,040 --> 01:48:36,040
Speaker 1: put your the defense in a spot where three wides

2242
01:48:36,080 --> 01:48:39,680
Speaker 1: and split running back wouldn't put them. I don't think

2243
01:48:40,439 --> 01:48:42,760
Speaker 1: any of these group of receivers will do that. So

2244
01:48:42,800 --> 01:48:45,599
Speaker 1: I think five guys is probably plenty because you still

2245
01:48:45,680 --> 01:48:47,240
Speaker 1: go four wide in a pinch if you want to,

2246
01:48:47,320 --> 01:48:51,880
Speaker 1: and you're only gonna go you know, here's Teddy Marcha

2247
01:48:51,920 --> 01:48:54,479
Speaker 1: brod to the great offensive coordinator used to say, listen, guys,

2248
01:48:54,560 --> 01:48:56,880
Speaker 1: you'll see this because we can run four wide, and

2249
01:48:57,000 --> 01:48:59,880
Speaker 1: we may only run it for ten snaps a year,

2250
01:49:00,080 --> 01:49:02,960
Speaker 1: maybe twenty snaps a year. Fifteen of those snaps will

2251
01:49:02,960 --> 01:49:05,160
Speaker 1: be in one game, you know what I mean. We're

2252
01:49:05,160 --> 01:49:07,200
Speaker 1: gonna match it up and that's the thing we're gonna use.

2253
01:49:07,360 --> 01:49:10,479
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's okay, but you don't. It's not your

2254
01:49:10,520 --> 01:49:12,680
Speaker 1: bread and butter. And also to your point, because that

2255
01:49:12,920 --> 01:49:16,439
Speaker 1: was a very good one, the tight end is something

2256
01:49:16,560 --> 01:49:20,120
Speaker 1: that really went missing last year because they just didn't

2257
01:49:20,160 --> 01:49:22,599
Speaker 1: have the guys. But this is a part of Brian

2258
01:49:22,680 --> 01:49:25,320
Speaker 1: Dable's offense. I think that he wants to develop a

2259
01:49:25,400 --> 01:49:28,400
Speaker 1: lot more having two tight ends on the field, and

2260
01:49:28,880 --> 01:49:33,639
Speaker 1: which is why it would almost dictate what you keep

2261
01:49:33,720 --> 01:49:35,599
Speaker 1: on your roster. If that's what your offense is trying

2262
01:49:35,600 --> 01:49:38,559
Speaker 1: to do, I think you're right, because as crazy as

2263
01:49:38,600 --> 01:49:40,360
Speaker 1: it sounds, they go into the offseas they got one

2264
01:49:40,479 --> 01:49:42,640
Speaker 1: tight end on the roster and it sounds like, well,

2265
01:49:42,640 --> 01:49:44,600
Speaker 1: what do you mean he likes tight ends? Well, you

2266
01:49:44,640 --> 01:49:46,880
Speaker 1: know what, they wanted to pick them and get the

2267
01:49:46,960 --> 01:49:49,400
Speaker 1: ones they wanted. Croft is a great example of that.

2268
01:49:49,960 --> 01:49:52,679
Speaker 1: Tyler Croft. Lee Smith is going to play a role

2269
01:49:52,840 --> 01:49:57,080
Speaker 1: in that. And then Dawson Knox and Tommy Sweeney. Those

2270
01:49:57,160 --> 01:50:00,800
Speaker 1: guys they've got some things. Yeah they did. Croom has

2271
01:50:00,920 --> 01:50:03,439
Speaker 1: really turned and I don't think there's any question that

2272
01:50:03,560 --> 01:50:06,080
Speaker 1: somebody got in and probably in an exit interview after

2273
01:50:06,120 --> 01:50:08,200
Speaker 1: the season this last year says, listen, you need to

2274
01:50:08,240 --> 01:50:10,439
Speaker 1: start working on your on this and this and this.

2275
01:50:10,680 --> 01:50:12,559
Speaker 1: If you work on this stuff, you got a chance

2276
01:50:12,600 --> 01:50:14,080
Speaker 1: to make this team. But you're gonna have to get

2277
01:50:14,160 --> 01:50:16,720
Speaker 1: better because we're gonna draft some guys, We're gonna bring

2278
01:50:16,800 --> 01:50:19,040
Speaker 1: in some free agents. You're the only one on our roster,

2279
01:50:19,400 --> 01:50:21,400
Speaker 1: and we're gonna bring some guys in we want to start.

2280
01:50:21,560 --> 01:50:23,800
Speaker 1: If you want that job, you're gonna have to really

2281
01:50:23,840 --> 01:50:26,759
Speaker 1: work for it, and he is a really hard worker.

2282
01:50:26,800 --> 01:50:30,280
Speaker 1: I remember him in twenty seventeen when he was on

2283
01:50:30,360 --> 01:50:32,240
Speaker 1: the practice squad. I believe he got cut for a

2284
01:50:32,320 --> 01:50:34,559
Speaker 1: while and then was brought back to the practice squad.

2285
01:50:34,920 --> 01:50:38,920
Speaker 1: I mean he was always after practice, working with Rob Boris,

2286
01:50:39,040 --> 01:50:42,200
Speaker 1: the tight ends coach, and just trying to get better

2287
01:50:42,280 --> 01:50:44,760
Speaker 1: at his blocking. It has been an ongoing effort for

2288
01:50:44,880 --> 01:50:47,760
Speaker 1: him to get better at blocking, and last year, you know,

2289
01:50:48,080 --> 01:50:50,840
Speaker 1: had some signs of life and block, but still wasn't

2290
01:50:51,200 --> 01:50:53,920
Speaker 1: the best. And that's the one area he needs to

2291
01:50:53,960 --> 01:50:58,400
Speaker 1: prove himself. That and securing the football because he fumbled

2292
01:50:58,800 --> 01:51:01,400
Speaker 1: the ball and lost it twice out of twenty two

2293
01:51:01,439 --> 01:51:04,400
Speaker 1: receptions last year and one out of every eleven catches

2294
01:51:04,520 --> 01:51:06,320
Speaker 1: is not going to cut it in the NFL, and

2295
01:51:06,600 --> 01:51:08,479
Speaker 1: especially not for a fringe guy. So if he can

2296
01:51:08,520 --> 01:51:11,080
Speaker 1: improve upon those two things, he absolutely has a chance.

2297
01:51:11,080 --> 01:51:13,840
Speaker 1: He's a bubble guy. I think the Tyler Croft injury

2298
01:51:13,920 --> 01:51:16,559
Speaker 1: complicates things to where now you have to think about, Okay,

2299
01:51:17,040 --> 01:51:19,600
Speaker 1: maybe do you for the time being he may be

2300
01:51:19,720 --> 01:51:23,320
Speaker 1: in the mix. Exactly. So with Tyler Croft out, if

2301
01:51:23,360 --> 01:51:26,760
Speaker 1: he goes into the regular season, maybe do you think

2302
01:51:26,760 --> 01:51:30,360
Speaker 1: about putting him on the pup list and and you know,

2303
01:51:30,560 --> 01:51:33,000
Speaker 1: figuring things out to where you have the flexibility to

2304
01:51:33,160 --> 01:51:36,080
Speaker 1: keep those four guys that we're talking about, Kroome, Sweeney, Knox,

2305
01:51:36,479 --> 01:51:39,840
Speaker 1: Uh and Lee Smith. But the guys that are not

2306
01:51:39,920 --> 01:51:41,800
Speaker 1: going away are Lee Smith and Dawson Knox. We said

2307
01:51:41,800 --> 01:51:44,160
Speaker 1: that earlier, but that though they are guaranteed to be

2308
01:51:44,240 --> 01:51:47,320
Speaker 1: on the roster, it's about Sweeney and Kroome and everybody else.

2309
01:51:47,439 --> 01:51:49,040
Speaker 1: Everybody else. Will you know when you get down to

2310
01:51:49,080 --> 01:51:50,800
Speaker 1: this place, thumbs up or thumbs down as to where

2311
01:51:50,800 --> 01:51:53,000
Speaker 1: they can cover kicks, run on punt team, and cover punts,

2312
01:51:53,080 --> 01:51:55,320
Speaker 1: now exactly, that's a That's another huge part of it too.

2313
01:51:55,439 --> 01:51:58,360
Speaker 1: So you've got four tight ends, that's two quarterbacks, two

2314
01:51:58,720 --> 01:52:02,080
Speaker 1: five running backs, five wide outs, four tight ends. That

2315
01:52:02,240 --> 01:52:05,040
Speaker 1: gets you to sixteen guys. You've got nine more guys

2316
01:52:05,080 --> 01:52:08,000
Speaker 1: to get on and they're all on the offensive line,

2317
01:52:08,040 --> 01:52:12,040
Speaker 1: offensive tackles. I think this one's I was gonna say easy,

2318
01:52:12,080 --> 01:52:14,559
Speaker 1: I don't think it is actually now Deon Dawkins, Okay,

2319
01:52:14,720 --> 01:52:18,200
Speaker 1: Tie and Secky, Yeah, probably Cody Ford, no problem. Lay

2320
01:52:18,400 --> 01:52:22,439
Speaker 1: During Waddle maybe he's the guy. Maybe maybe you cut

2321
01:52:22,520 --> 01:52:26,200
Speaker 1: la Adrian Waddles. He's probably the fringe guy. But then again,

2322
01:52:26,400 --> 01:52:28,880
Speaker 1: I mean he gave you some he gave some valuable

2323
01:52:28,960 --> 01:52:32,200
Speaker 1: reps in New England, and I think but for the

2324
01:52:32,240 --> 01:52:34,760
Speaker 1: guys they've gone around, I think I circle it and

2325
01:52:34,880 --> 01:52:36,439
Speaker 1: all these guys said, Okay, I think you know what.

2326
01:52:36,560 --> 01:52:40,200
Speaker 1: I think that's exactly right. Deon Dawkins didn't go anywhere.

2327
01:52:40,280 --> 01:52:42,920
Speaker 1: Ti and Secky isn't going anywhere. In Cody Ford, he's

2328
01:52:43,000 --> 01:52:45,439
Speaker 1: probably not going anywhere a tackle. He may if he

2329
01:52:45,520 --> 01:52:47,680
Speaker 1: goes anywhere, it's gonna be a guard. Yes, so he's

2330
01:52:47,720 --> 01:52:49,400
Speaker 1: gonna be on the squad. Yeah, I think I think

2331
01:52:49,479 --> 01:52:52,200
Speaker 1: ladri and Waddle is on the safe side of the

2332
01:52:52,240 --> 01:52:56,080
Speaker 1: bubble right now unless he gets outplayed by Connor McDermott

2333
01:52:56,560 --> 01:53:01,200
Speaker 1: um or or Lake no, Blake Hanson, Garrett mcgil released

2334
01:53:01,320 --> 01:53:04,960
Speaker 1: and McGinn was practicing inside the Western guy. So DeAndre

2335
01:53:05,040 --> 01:53:06,680
Speaker 1: Wesley is now on the team who the Bills had

2336
01:53:06,720 --> 01:53:10,519
Speaker 1: on their practice squad, but just came back. Yeah, But

2337
01:53:11,040 --> 01:53:14,360
Speaker 1: I would say if those four guys stayed offensive tackle,

2338
01:53:14,720 --> 01:53:16,840
Speaker 1: I would tend to think all four are on the roster.

2339
01:53:17,120 --> 01:53:20,479
Speaker 1: The only one who might be gone is Waddle, But

2340
01:53:21,240 --> 01:53:22,840
Speaker 1: I think he has a compelling case to make the

2341
01:53:22,920 --> 01:53:25,080
Speaker 1: team because you know, you have young guys, and you

2342
01:53:25,120 --> 01:53:26,639
Speaker 1: don't know what's going to happen with those young guys.

2343
01:53:26,680 --> 01:53:28,439
Speaker 1: And that's your four offensive tackles. And before we go

2344
01:53:28,640 --> 01:53:30,519
Speaker 1: to a break here, we had a couple of minute

2345
01:53:30,520 --> 01:53:33,400
Speaker 1: one or two more minutes, let's talk about the interior guys.

2346
01:53:33,439 --> 01:53:36,120
Speaker 1: And this is where it gets a little bit, a

2347
01:53:36,200 --> 01:53:39,479
Speaker 1: little bit of a tossed salad here. Mitch Morse is

2348
01:53:39,640 --> 01:53:42,160
Speaker 1: a plug in shoeing, no question about. He's the starter.

2349
01:53:42,680 --> 01:53:45,400
Speaker 1: But he's the only guaranteed starter on the offensive line

2350
01:53:45,439 --> 01:53:49,840
Speaker 1: right now? How about that? Probably? Yeah, Probably Deon Dawkins

2351
01:53:49,880 --> 01:53:51,599
Speaker 1: is gonna be there, even if he does play guard,

2352
01:53:51,680 --> 01:53:54,439
Speaker 1: he'll start. Yeah, but he's not locked into a spot.

2353
01:53:54,479 --> 01:53:56,760
Speaker 1: That's what I mean. Mitch Morse is the only one

2354
01:53:56,840 --> 01:53:59,000
Speaker 1: that's locked in, which is wild. Twenty percent of your

2355
01:53:59,040 --> 01:54:01,880
Speaker 1: offensive line going Ota is such a train rank last

2356
01:54:01,960 --> 01:54:04,360
Speaker 1: year it was it was not ideal. All right, Here

2357
01:54:04,400 --> 01:54:08,200
Speaker 1: we go, So Mitch moorese Spencer Long, Quittin Spain, John Feliciano,

2358
01:54:08,280 --> 01:54:11,160
Speaker 1: and Wyatt Teller, and which leaves the guys who may

2359
01:54:11,240 --> 01:54:13,439
Speaker 1: not make it as Russell Bodine, who was a big

2360
01:54:13,520 --> 01:54:16,920
Speaker 1: free agent guy last year. I Butcker, Lad Ducos and

2361
01:54:17,080 --> 01:54:19,639
Speaker 1: Jeremiah Searles would be cut. I think I think Bucker

2362
01:54:19,720 --> 01:54:22,280
Speaker 1: is a guy that still has practice squad eligibility, so

2363
01:54:22,479 --> 01:54:25,120
Speaker 1: you can bring him back over there and he's someone

2364
01:54:25,200 --> 01:54:27,360
Speaker 1: to develop. He gave he gave some reps at center

2365
01:54:27,680 --> 01:54:30,120
Speaker 1: at OTAs this past week so that that could be

2366
01:54:30,200 --> 01:54:33,360
Speaker 1: something to develop in case of injury down down the season.

2367
01:54:33,760 --> 01:54:39,160
Speaker 1: But the lack of flexibility or versatility I should say

2368
01:54:39,200 --> 01:54:42,480
Speaker 1: for Russell Bodine along that interior is the is my

2369
01:54:42,560 --> 01:54:45,600
Speaker 1: biggest hang up. He does not or he has not

2370
01:54:45,760 --> 01:54:48,400
Speaker 1: played guard at any point in his career. He's always

2371
01:54:48,440 --> 01:54:50,680
Speaker 1: been a center, and of course he was in a

2372
01:54:50,760 --> 01:54:53,080
Speaker 1: starting capacity so he never had to move around. But

2373
01:54:53,200 --> 01:54:55,200
Speaker 1: that that has been him. We don't know if he

2374
01:54:55,280 --> 01:54:58,400
Speaker 1: can play guard. The other guys we know Spencer Long

2375
01:54:58,480 --> 01:55:01,640
Speaker 1: can play both guard and center. Uh, John Feliciano can

2376
01:55:01,720 --> 01:55:04,200
Speaker 1: play both, Gardens center, Wyatt Teller, I don't think they're

2377
01:55:04,200 --> 01:55:06,040
Speaker 1: going to give up on him just yet because he

2378
01:55:06,120 --> 01:55:07,840
Speaker 1: was a fifth round pick. He gave him some starts

2379
01:55:07,880 --> 01:55:11,320
Speaker 1: and they I believe they have this he was in there,

2380
01:55:11,400 --> 01:55:13,360
Speaker 1: it didn't move him, right. I believe they have the

2381
01:55:13,400 --> 01:55:16,240
Speaker 1: philosophy that if he's in there, you can win with

2382
01:55:16,400 --> 01:55:19,680
Speaker 1: him in there, which is probably the litmus test for

2383
01:55:19,680 --> 01:55:22,040
Speaker 1: a lot of these guys. Yeah, it would be he

2384
01:55:22,160 --> 01:55:25,000
Speaker 1: was up and down first settling, they would they would

2385
01:55:25,040 --> 01:55:28,080
Speaker 1: be settling. But he also has the potential to get

2386
01:55:28,160 --> 01:55:32,720
Speaker 1: better because you know he did. Yeah, he's young. There's

2387
01:55:32,720 --> 01:55:34,800
Speaker 1: a lot of variants when it comes to young players,

2388
01:55:35,000 --> 01:55:36,920
Speaker 1: and because when he first got into the starting lineup,

2389
01:55:36,920 --> 01:55:39,480
Speaker 1: he actually looked pretty good. So you have you have

2390
01:55:39,640 --> 01:55:42,080
Speaker 1: that you have to kind of be interesting to see

2391
01:55:42,080 --> 01:55:44,880
Speaker 1: that the affect Bobby Johnson or yeah, Bobby Johnson has,

2392
01:55:44,920 --> 01:55:46,800
Speaker 1: the offensive line coach has Oh, I think he's going

2393
01:55:46,840 --> 01:55:49,760
Speaker 1: to have a massive effect. Yeah, you know, Juan Castillo,

2394
01:55:50,200 --> 01:55:53,920
Speaker 1: um he. I think it was a change that that

2395
01:55:54,160 --> 01:55:56,800
Speaker 1: needed to happen. Also for the fact that you know,

2396
01:55:56,920 --> 01:56:03,360
Speaker 1: technically he was the run game coordinator last year and

2397
01:56:04,240 --> 01:56:06,640
Speaker 1: I don't know how that exactly went with having the

2398
01:56:06,720 --> 01:56:09,760
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator being Briandabele. That was kind of a weird thing.

2399
01:56:10,120 --> 01:56:13,160
Speaker 1: But you know, I think Bobby Johnson you could tell

2400
01:56:13,320 --> 01:56:17,600
Speaker 1: right from the get go, strong voice, holding his guy's

2401
01:56:17,640 --> 01:56:21,880
Speaker 1: accountable right away, not letting them loaf through drills. It

2402
01:56:22,080 --> 01:56:23,800
Speaker 1: is not going to be a walk in the park.

2403
01:56:24,000 --> 01:56:25,800
Speaker 1: I don't think it was last year, but it's certainly

2404
01:56:25,920 --> 01:56:28,120
Speaker 1: not going to be one this year. All right, thanks

2405
01:56:28,160 --> 01:56:29,840
Speaker 1: show for that. That was your fifty three. We got

2406
01:56:29,880 --> 01:56:31,800
Speaker 1: through the offensive side. I probably won't have time to

2407
01:56:31,840 --> 01:56:35,400
Speaker 1: do the defensive side, but that's a little bit more stable. Anyways,

2408
01:56:35,440 --> 01:56:38,040
Speaker 1: we all know who Bills fans are. Joe Viscaliu, Steve

2409
01:56:38,120 --> 01:56:40,880
Speaker 1: Tasker on One Bill's Drive, One Bills Live from One

2410
01:56:40,920 --> 01:56:42,880
Speaker 1: Bill's Drive. We're gonna come back. When to do NFL

2411
01:56:42,960 --> 01:56:45,680
Speaker 1: True Falls and what do we learn? As well as

2412
01:56:45,720 --> 01:56:48,080
Speaker 1: maybe take a look at some video from Aaron Rodgers

2413
01:56:48,160 --> 01:56:50,320
Speaker 1: trying to guzzle a beer with his left tackle at

2414
01:56:50,360 --> 01:56:53,640
Speaker 1: the Bucks game last night. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio,

2415
01:56:54,040 --> 01:56:56,320
Speaker 1: presented by Kalida Health from One Bill's Drive. We'll be

2416
01:56:56,440 --> 01:57:11,400
Speaker 1: right back. Welcome back to One Bill's Lives. Do you

2417
01:57:11,480 --> 01:57:13,560
Speaker 1: task along with jobscal your Murph will be back on

2418
01:57:13,680 --> 01:57:15,800
Speaker 1: Tuesday along with the rest of us and I hope

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01:57:15,840 --> 01:57:18,200
Speaker 1: you guys enjoy your holiday weekend. It gets started for

2420
01:57:18,280 --> 01:57:21,520
Speaker 1: us in about twenty seven minutes. But Joe, I don't

2421
01:57:21,520 --> 01:57:23,680
Speaker 1: know if you are. You an NBA NBA guy too,

2422
01:57:24,000 --> 01:57:27,200
Speaker 1: a huge NBA. Okay, so you enjoyed the playoffs. They're

2423
01:57:27,280 --> 01:57:29,520
Speaker 1: pretty good, right, Yeah? The semifinal round was one of

2424
01:57:29,560 --> 01:57:32,240
Speaker 1: my favorite semifine. It's still going around. Ian's still going round,

2425
01:57:32,360 --> 01:57:35,480
Speaker 1: going on as the Raptors were in Milwaukee last night

2426
01:57:35,600 --> 01:57:37,840
Speaker 1: for Game five, and of course in Milwaukee in you're

2427
01:57:37,840 --> 01:57:42,400
Speaker 1: in Wisconsin, it's Packard country, and David Baktar, the left

2428
01:57:42,440 --> 01:57:47,240
Speaker 1: tackle of the Minutes are the Green Bay Packers, was

2429
01:57:47,480 --> 01:57:49,320
Speaker 1: shown on the big screen. He picks up a big

2430
01:57:49,400 --> 01:57:52,960
Speaker 1: sixteen ounce beer and tosses it down pretty easily. But

2431
01:57:53,120 --> 01:57:55,200
Speaker 1: since he's a left tackle, he reaches over and grabs

2432
01:57:55,200 --> 01:57:58,000
Speaker 1: another one and tosses that one off right, too right,

2433
01:57:58,080 --> 01:58:00,640
Speaker 1: so he scuttles two beers. He stands up points across

2434
01:58:00,720 --> 01:58:04,880
Speaker 1: the arena to none other than his quarterback, Aaron Rodgers,

2435
01:58:04,960 --> 01:58:07,920
Speaker 1: who picks up like two thirds of a beer and

2436
01:58:08,200 --> 01:58:11,320
Speaker 1: starts to drink it. In response, chugging is now for everybody,

2437
01:58:11,400 --> 01:58:14,200
Speaker 1: and he can't. He struggles, He can't get it down.

2438
01:58:14,360 --> 01:58:17,280
Speaker 1: He does, he does, he's he gives up. He says, no,

2439
01:58:17,360 --> 01:58:18,840
Speaker 1: I can't do it, and he points back to his

2440
01:58:18,960 --> 01:58:22,000
Speaker 1: left tackle, who says, oh me, okay. So he drabs

2441
01:58:22,040 --> 01:58:25,160
Speaker 1: a third beer and tosses that one off. I see,

2442
01:58:25,240 --> 01:58:28,200
Speaker 1: I'm no doctor, but three beers in thirty seconds cannot

2443
01:58:28,360 --> 01:58:33,240
Speaker 1: be good for the Uh. It's pretty bad for you

2444
01:58:33,360 --> 01:58:35,000
Speaker 1: and me. It's pretty bad for you and me. But

2445
01:58:35,080 --> 01:58:37,480
Speaker 1: for a three hundred and fifteen pounder, that's not that

2446
01:58:37,560 --> 01:58:41,640
Speaker 1: big a deal. Three and thirty seconds. I think that's

2447
01:58:41,680 --> 01:58:44,240
Speaker 1: a big deal for anybody, Joe, I trust me. Did

2448
01:58:44,280 --> 01:58:47,839
Speaker 1: you also see that Kristen Yellich of of the Milwaukee

2449
01:58:47,880 --> 01:58:51,040
Speaker 1: Brewers also chugged a beer? I'm cam yeah, not less.

2450
01:58:52,200 --> 01:58:54,160
Speaker 1: Trust me, I've I've drunk. Oh here it is there

2451
01:58:54,320 --> 01:58:57,920
Speaker 1: is right next to bok tri And of course he

2452
01:58:58,000 --> 01:59:00,200
Speaker 1: doesn't do it as quickly as bok Tiri, and it's

2453
01:59:00,200 --> 01:59:02,480
Speaker 1: not a full beer, like already drank a little bit

2454
01:59:02,480 --> 01:59:04,320
Speaker 1: of his death. But you know what he did it.

2455
01:59:04,440 --> 01:59:08,040
Speaker 1: He did it. Joe. Obviously you hasn't haven't spent much

2456
01:59:08,120 --> 01:59:10,680
Speaker 1: time drinking with three hundred pounders as I have. No,

2457
01:59:10,880 --> 01:59:13,320
Speaker 1: I certainly have not. That was in my Wheelhouse for

2458
01:59:13,400 --> 01:59:17,040
Speaker 1: a long time. I could imagine never try to keep

2459
01:59:17,120 --> 01:59:21,320
Speaker 1: up with those guys. It's bad up with this, yeah, yeah,

2460
01:59:21,400 --> 01:59:25,920
Speaker 1: And Aaron Rodgers texted and tweeted at his left tackle

2461
01:59:26,040 --> 01:59:28,680
Speaker 1: David Baktri across the way. He said, hey, make it

2462
01:59:28,800 --> 01:59:32,680
Speaker 1: Scotch next time. Good for those guys. But the Bucks

2463
01:59:32,760 --> 01:59:34,640
Speaker 1: took it on the chin from the Raptors last night.

2464
01:59:34,680 --> 01:59:39,360
Speaker 1: They go to Game six, Uh is it back in Toronto?

2465
01:59:39,440 --> 01:59:42,680
Speaker 1: Toronto and Raptors to close them out. The city is

2466
01:59:42,760 --> 01:59:45,040
Speaker 1: going to be buzzing. I was just in Toronto last

2467
01:59:45,080 --> 01:59:46,920
Speaker 1: weekend and they were and that was when they were

2468
01:59:46,960 --> 01:59:49,720
Speaker 1: down two and the city was still buzzing. So they

2469
01:59:49,760 --> 01:59:53,040
Speaker 1: are hurting for the Raptors to make it to the final. Yeah,

2470
01:59:53,040 --> 01:59:55,760
Speaker 1: and it's a full thing. I've kind of got a

2471
01:59:55,800 --> 01:59:57,640
Speaker 1: soft spot in my heart for the Raptors because when

2472
01:59:57,760 --> 02:00:00,760
Speaker 1: when my my last guy, my last on was in

2473
02:00:00,880 --> 02:00:02,600
Speaker 1: high school. He's the only one left in the house

2474
02:00:02,640 --> 02:00:04,040
Speaker 1: of the five kids we have, and he had we

2475
02:00:04,120 --> 02:00:07,000
Speaker 1: have this other and a foreign we called it a

2476
02:00:07,080 --> 02:00:10,400
Speaker 1: foreign exchange student. Sounds really exotic. It was an Italian

2477
02:00:10,520 --> 02:00:13,520
Speaker 1: kid from Toronto, right Robby, So rob who's one now

2478
02:00:13,560 --> 02:00:15,480
Speaker 1: he's part of our family, right, so right, all love him? Right.

2479
02:00:15,520 --> 02:00:17,720
Speaker 1: So he's a big Raptor fan, So now I'm into

2480
02:00:17,720 --> 02:00:20,280
Speaker 1: the Raptors. Oh, there you go. So he's he's the

2481
02:00:20,320 --> 02:00:22,800
Speaker 1: one who turned got a good team. That's all going on.

2482
02:00:22,920 --> 02:00:24,720
Speaker 1: And we've we've been talking about the Bills and their

2483
02:00:24,800 --> 02:00:27,400
Speaker 1: roster sex and now we're gonna do roster setting and

2484
02:00:27,800 --> 02:00:31,160
Speaker 1: the numbers, and well, now we're gonna do NFL true false.

2485
02:00:31,840 --> 02:00:35,720
Speaker 1: Brought to you by Yancey's Fancy New York's artists and cheese.

2486
02:00:36,560 --> 02:00:38,240
Speaker 1: You noticed how I didn't have to read that. Yeah,

2487
02:00:38,280 --> 02:00:40,560
Speaker 1: that's a big thing. That's muscle memory right there, right,

2488
02:00:40,600 --> 02:00:43,120
Speaker 1: that's right, all right, here we go NFL true false.

2489
02:00:43,240 --> 02:00:46,120
Speaker 1: Number one, Drew Brees is the best small quarterback in

2490
02:00:46,160 --> 02:00:49,160
Speaker 1: the National Football League. True false. What do you think, Joe, Well,

2491
02:00:49,360 --> 02:00:53,600
Speaker 1: the only one that you can debate it with right

2492
02:00:53,800 --> 02:00:56,919
Speaker 1: now is Russell Wilson. Maybe in the future it's Baker Mayfield,

2493
02:00:57,000 --> 02:00:59,640
Speaker 1: but it's a little bit too early for that. But

2494
02:01:00,120 --> 02:01:02,280
Speaker 1: well you can go back in the history, I know,

2495
02:01:02,520 --> 02:01:04,800
Speaker 1: I mean in the NFL right now, Okay, I think

2496
02:01:04,840 --> 02:01:07,560
Speaker 1: I think is what we're talking about, and I think

2497
02:01:07,560 --> 02:01:11,920
Speaker 1: i'd go with Russell. Honestly, because he has worked with

2498
02:01:12,480 --> 02:01:17,080
Speaker 1: such terrible talent around him in terms of the offensive line,

2499
02:01:17,400 --> 02:01:19,800
Speaker 1: and the fact that he is still able to be

2500
02:01:20,040 --> 02:01:23,840
Speaker 1: upstanding and doing all of those things and making plays

2501
02:01:24,040 --> 02:01:27,800
Speaker 1: like World Championship. I mean, I look at Russell Wilson,

2502
02:01:27,920 --> 02:01:32,120
Speaker 1: He's he is just an incredible athlete being able to

2503
02:01:32,200 --> 02:01:34,400
Speaker 1: do what he does. Drew Brees is great, Don't get

2504
02:01:34,440 --> 02:01:36,760
Speaker 1: me wrong, I really enjoyed Drew Brees. But where he

2505
02:01:36,920 --> 02:01:39,800
Speaker 1: is in his career as opposed to where Russell Wilson

2506
02:01:39,960 --> 02:01:43,480
Speaker 1: is still moving upward, I think I think I'd say

2507
02:01:43,520 --> 02:01:45,560
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson is the best small quarterback in the NFL.

2508
02:01:45,640 --> 02:01:47,680
Speaker 1: Right now. You're gonna say false, Yeah, I'll say, I'll

2509
02:01:47,680 --> 02:01:52,440
Speaker 1: say false. I'm gonna say true. Certainly at the current moment,

2510
02:01:52,800 --> 02:01:55,640
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson is right there with him. Drew Brees made

2511
02:01:55,640 --> 02:01:57,720
Speaker 1: it deeper into the playoffs last year with the group

2512
02:01:57,800 --> 02:02:00,600
Speaker 1: he had. He's the only quarterback in history to have

2513
02:02:00,680 --> 02:02:03,080
Speaker 1: thrown from multiple five thousand yards season. He's done it

2514
02:02:03,240 --> 02:02:07,280
Speaker 1: like five times. Everybody else has done it twice. He

2515
02:02:07,680 --> 02:02:11,880
Speaker 1: is a small quarterback who's in the conversation for one

2516
02:02:11,880 --> 02:02:14,640
Speaker 1: of the greatest quarterbacks of all times. So I'm going

2517
02:02:14,720 --> 02:02:17,120
Speaker 1: to continue to ride him until he shows me he

2518
02:02:17,200 --> 02:02:19,680
Speaker 1: can't play. Last year, he got him to the champion

2519
02:02:20,000 --> 02:02:23,360
Speaker 1: NFC Championship Game, and one of the most egregious non

2520
02:02:23,440 --> 02:02:26,440
Speaker 1: calls in NFL history kept him out of another Super Bowl.

2521
02:02:26,480 --> 02:02:30,360
Speaker 1: Who was who committed the non penalty? Do you remember Nickel?

2522
02:02:30,440 --> 02:02:33,120
Speaker 1: Robie Coleman, Robie Coleman, our guy or the subject of

2523
02:02:33,200 --> 02:02:37,040
Speaker 1: our you know, conversations earlier in this show. Okay, so true?

2524
02:02:37,280 --> 02:02:41,520
Speaker 1: So you say you say true false NFL true false?

2525
02:02:41,640 --> 02:02:47,160
Speaker 1: Number two, NFL should keep the combine in Indianapolis? True false?

2526
02:02:47,280 --> 02:02:49,960
Speaker 1: You did you did the combine in this past year?

2527
02:02:50,000 --> 02:02:53,360
Speaker 1: Were there? Did you do it before that one? Okay,

2528
02:02:53,840 --> 02:02:56,560
Speaker 1: I'm a bit biased because I started going to the

2529
02:02:56,680 --> 02:03:00,240
Speaker 1: NFL Combine in two thousand and nine, and I love

2530
02:03:00,280 --> 02:03:04,080
Speaker 1: it in Indianapolis. I mean, everything is just all in

2531
02:03:04,200 --> 02:03:06,600
Speaker 1: one place. I'm sure teams love it for this reason too,

2532
02:03:07,280 --> 02:03:09,120
Speaker 1: where there's not a lot of driving. It's a very

2533
02:03:09,240 --> 02:03:11,320
Speaker 1: walkable city. Even if it's a cold day out there.

2534
02:03:11,440 --> 02:03:14,200
Speaker 1: They have their conference center to where you can you

2535
02:03:14,280 --> 02:03:18,160
Speaker 1: can get a bridge from from hotel to conference center

2536
02:03:18,360 --> 02:03:21,080
Speaker 1: to stadiums outside. I don't have to go outside even

2537
02:03:21,120 --> 02:03:23,320
Speaker 1: to get into city center to the mall area, which

2538
02:03:23,400 --> 02:03:25,240
Speaker 1: is right right in the in the Army to go

2539
02:03:25,320 --> 02:03:27,120
Speaker 1: to the mall, well, I mean there's a bunch of

2540
02:03:27,160 --> 02:03:31,160
Speaker 1: restaurants around said mall, but it's just everything is there

2541
02:03:31,240 --> 02:03:33,880
Speaker 1: and the combine. For as much it is the on

2542
02:03:34,320 --> 02:03:39,120
Speaker 1: field activity, it's also the after the day wraps up

2543
02:03:39,160 --> 02:03:42,920
Speaker 1: activity to where you have NFL agents and teams all

2544
02:03:43,000 --> 02:03:47,760
Speaker 1: in one place, communicating off the record, but communicating in

2545
02:03:48,600 --> 02:03:50,920
Speaker 1: trying to develop their rosters as they go on. I'll

2546
02:03:50,960 --> 02:03:54,200
Speaker 1: say this, it is one of the few places nowadays

2547
02:03:54,280 --> 02:03:59,200
Speaker 1: that isn't corporatized, you know what I mean? Yes, I agree,

2548
02:03:59,600 --> 02:04:03,240
Speaker 1: it's it's not incorporated. And because you go to even

2549
02:04:03,320 --> 02:04:05,400
Speaker 1: that it used to be the Commissioner's Party was started out.

2550
02:04:05,400 --> 02:04:07,240
Speaker 1: It was a little cocktail party with the owners and stuff,

2551
02:04:07,240 --> 02:04:09,800
Speaker 1: and then it was this five million dollar open to

2552
02:04:09,840 --> 02:04:13,680
Speaker 1: the public. Everything that the NFL touches seems to expand

2553
02:04:13,760 --> 02:04:16,640
Speaker 1: and expand and expand and become an event, and this

2554
02:04:16,760 --> 02:04:18,800
Speaker 1: still is. This is an event. And now they're going

2555
02:04:18,840 --> 02:04:20,880
Speaker 1: to have all their their on field stuff done in

2556
02:04:21,000 --> 02:04:23,920
Speaker 1: primetime now, so it's becoming more of an event. But

2557
02:04:24,080 --> 02:04:26,880
Speaker 1: at least it's a TV event. That doesn't have to

2558
02:04:28,080 --> 02:04:31,800
Speaker 1: involve seventy five thousand people in the stands, right, it's

2559
02:04:31,920 --> 02:04:36,360
Speaker 1: still in FL people in the media, in the front offices,

2560
02:04:36,720 --> 02:04:39,720
Speaker 1: on the field, on the road, scouting. It's all of

2561
02:04:39,800 --> 02:04:44,520
Speaker 1: those people. It's a very small, niche yeah community. So

2562
02:04:44,800 --> 02:04:49,000
Speaker 1: for sure, I get why you say yeah, I'm gonna

2563
02:04:49,000 --> 02:04:51,560
Speaker 1: say false because I think I'm gonna be right. They're

2564
02:04:51,560 --> 02:04:53,200
Speaker 1: gonna move it. They are going to move it. But

2565
02:04:53,720 --> 02:04:56,000
Speaker 1: you know, again, like I said, and it's not about us.

2566
02:04:56,120 --> 02:04:58,400
Speaker 1: I really I really like Indianapolis. I do too. It's

2567
02:04:58,400 --> 02:05:00,160
Speaker 1: a great and you're right, that is a well very

2568
02:05:00,280 --> 02:05:03,600
Speaker 1: underrated city. All right, And now true NFL true false.

2569
02:05:03,800 --> 02:05:07,280
Speaker 1: Number three, the NFL should be trusted to define what

2570
02:05:07,440 --> 02:05:09,760
Speaker 1: a hail Mary passes. And you have been to keeping

2571
02:05:09,800 --> 02:05:12,040
Speaker 1: track of what's been going on, Oh I have, right, Okay,

2572
02:05:12,480 --> 02:05:14,720
Speaker 1: so now they have should be trusted to define what

2573
02:05:14,840 --> 02:05:16,680
Speaker 1: a hail Mary pass is and you I'll go first

2574
02:05:16,720 --> 02:05:18,840
Speaker 1: on this one. I'm gonna say false. They'll never get

2575
02:05:18,920 --> 02:05:20,680
Speaker 1: to that. They are not going to let that happen.

2576
02:05:20,760 --> 02:05:23,520
Speaker 1: They realize the folly of what it is they're talking about.

2577
02:05:23,840 --> 02:05:26,120
Speaker 1: They're going to find a way around having to define

2578
02:05:26,240 --> 02:05:29,480
Speaker 1: what a play looks like well, I will also say false.

2579
02:05:29,560 --> 02:05:31,600
Speaker 1: They should be trusted to define what a hail mary

2580
02:05:31,760 --> 02:05:34,960
Speaker 1: is for the simple fact that the NFL couldn't even

2581
02:05:35,040 --> 02:05:39,080
Speaker 1: define what a catch was for almost seven years. Wow,

2582
02:05:39,240 --> 02:05:41,400
Speaker 1: good point by you. What are we talking about here?

2583
02:05:41,440 --> 02:05:43,360
Speaker 1: Now we have to now you have to delineate what

2584
02:05:43,880 --> 02:05:46,960
Speaker 1: play and trust the officials to go, okay, well this

2585
02:05:47,200 --> 02:05:49,520
Speaker 1: is this is a hail mary this time. And I

2586
02:05:49,680 --> 02:05:52,080
Speaker 1: know you can, you can conceptually do it, but then

2587
02:05:52,400 --> 02:05:55,120
Speaker 1: you have the Belichicks of the world who are looking

2588
02:05:55,160 --> 02:05:58,240
Speaker 1: for loopholes about what a hail mary actually is, and

2589
02:05:58,760 --> 02:06:01,120
Speaker 1: so that way you can potentially challenge a play down

2590
02:06:01,160 --> 02:06:02,880
Speaker 1: the field and then another set of rules have to

2591
02:06:02,960 --> 02:06:06,680
Speaker 1: come out. Just don't overthink it. I mean, I mean,

2592
02:06:06,840 --> 02:06:09,360
Speaker 1: I guess hell mary should just kind of be just

2593
02:06:09,480 --> 02:06:12,320
Speaker 1: kind of be their game. Yeah, all right, that's NFL

2594
02:06:12,400 --> 02:06:14,560
Speaker 1: true false, brought to you by Yancey's Fancy New York's

2595
02:06:14,600 --> 02:06:16,720
Speaker 1: artists and cheese. And before we get let's have one

2596
02:06:16,760 --> 02:06:18,560
Speaker 1: little point of debate. We have Tom on the line

2597
02:06:18,600 --> 02:06:20,680
Speaker 1: from the West side. Tom, I know you've been waiting

2598
02:06:20,720 --> 02:06:22,320
Speaker 1: for quite some time. You want to talk about the

2599
02:06:22,440 --> 02:06:27,080
Speaker 1: running backs and particularly the rugby player Christian Wade. So, Tom,

2600
02:06:27,400 --> 02:06:29,200
Speaker 1: you're on the air with us, Steve and Joe. What's

2601
02:06:29,200 --> 02:06:31,440
Speaker 1: on your mind about Christian Wade and making the NFL

2602
02:06:31,600 --> 02:06:36,040
Speaker 1: roster the Buffalo Bill's roster. Yeah, afternoon, guys, I realize

2603
02:06:36,120 --> 02:06:38,920
Speaker 1: he's not gonna count against the fifty three. And by

2604
02:06:38,960 --> 02:06:41,240
Speaker 1: the way, Steve, you already got my vote, and Joe,

2605
02:06:41,720 --> 02:06:44,200
Speaker 1: you keep up the good work. You got my vote

2606
02:06:44,200 --> 02:06:47,080
Speaker 1: for the Buffalo Bill's Sports and Media Hall of Oh,

2607
02:06:47,200 --> 02:06:49,400
Speaker 1: thank you. I appreciate it. Well, I appreciate it. Tom.

2608
02:06:49,560 --> 02:06:53,320
Speaker 1: What you don't think. Listen, if Christian Wade makes the

2609
02:06:53,360 --> 02:06:56,040
Speaker 1: fifty three, he does count against the fifty three. That's true.

2610
02:06:56,120 --> 02:06:57,800
Speaker 1: If he goes to the practice squad, he does not.

2611
02:06:58,840 --> 02:07:01,240
Speaker 1: He doesn't count against fifty three. If we put him

2612
02:07:01,280 --> 02:07:03,520
Speaker 1: on the practice squad, no, not. If he's on the

2613
02:07:03,560 --> 02:07:06,240
Speaker 1: practice squad, no, correct. But you cannot you cannot keep

2614
02:07:06,320 --> 02:07:09,040
Speaker 1: him on the fifty three man roster without without keeping

2615
02:07:09,400 --> 02:07:11,560
Speaker 1: him counting for one of the fifty three. That's that's

2616
02:07:11,600 --> 02:07:14,960
Speaker 1: the difference. Right now. They have they have the exemption

2617
02:07:15,040 --> 02:07:17,560
Speaker 1: to where they can keep ninety one players on the

2618
02:07:17,680 --> 02:07:21,000
Speaker 1: roster that through training camp, but once they get down

2619
02:07:21,040 --> 02:07:23,000
Speaker 1: to final cuts, they either have to keep him on

2620
02:07:23,080 --> 02:07:24,880
Speaker 1: the team or they have to cut him, put him

2621
02:07:24,920 --> 02:07:26,800
Speaker 1: through waivers, and then if he gets through waivers, they

2622
02:07:26,840 --> 02:07:29,240
Speaker 1: can bring him back to the practice squad, which he

2623
02:07:29,400 --> 02:07:31,520
Speaker 1: does not count as one of their tenants. What's your

2624
02:07:31,520 --> 02:07:34,760
Speaker 1: point about that, Tom Clara? Waivers go ahead? What wondering

2625
02:07:34,880 --> 02:07:37,560
Speaker 1: how does they look in development? Because he doesn't have

2626
02:07:37,640 --> 02:07:40,720
Speaker 1: the pads on yet? And I as challenge you know what,

2627
02:07:41,000 --> 02:07:43,640
Speaker 1: running backs are so weird to track during the OTAs

2628
02:07:43,720 --> 02:07:46,280
Speaker 1: because there's just no way to get a true gauge

2629
02:07:46,320 --> 02:07:48,400
Speaker 1: on them. I've been burned so many times by thinking

2630
02:07:48,440 --> 02:07:50,800
Speaker 1: of running back has has been good in the spring

2631
02:07:50,840 --> 02:07:52,720
Speaker 1: workouts and then being like, uh yeah, once the pads

2632
02:07:52,720 --> 02:07:54,680
Speaker 1: go on, they're not that great, or that they look

2633
02:07:54,680 --> 02:07:57,360
Speaker 1: a little bit slower. What I like about Christian Wade,

2634
02:07:57,520 --> 02:07:59,920
Speaker 1: what I will say is when he is in the

2635
02:08:00,200 --> 02:08:04,800
Speaker 1: open field and reading defenders setting them up, he knows

2636
02:08:04,880 --> 02:08:07,000
Speaker 1: a lot about how to do that because that's rugby.

2637
02:08:07,280 --> 02:08:11,000
Speaker 1: I mean, in order for him to be yes and

2638
02:08:11,360 --> 02:08:13,280
Speaker 1: in order for him to be as successful as he

2639
02:08:13,520 --> 02:08:15,480
Speaker 1: was at that level, I mean, you have to be

2640
02:08:15,560 --> 02:08:18,560
Speaker 1: able to read which way the body is working, being

2641
02:08:18,600 --> 02:08:20,640
Speaker 1: able to set the defenders up like that but it's

2642
02:08:20,720 --> 02:08:22,680
Speaker 1: the other side of things that he has to be

2643
02:08:22,680 --> 02:08:26,120
Speaker 1: able to do. Can he learn all the routes? Very

2644
02:08:26,160 --> 02:08:28,960
Speaker 1: simple thing. Can he learn all the techniques of route running?

2645
02:08:29,360 --> 02:08:33,560
Speaker 1: I mean, can he learn the specific jargon that comes

2646
02:08:33,600 --> 02:08:35,920
Speaker 1: along with being in an NFL offense. I mean he

2647
02:08:36,080 --> 02:08:41,680
Speaker 1: is basically picking up a book of Turkish right and

2648
02:08:41,840 --> 02:08:44,360
Speaker 1: trying trying to read it by only reading English at

2649
02:08:44,400 --> 02:08:46,520
Speaker 1: this point. So now he just has to learn the

2650
02:08:46,560 --> 02:08:48,920
Speaker 1: Holy language. That's what it is. Tom, Thanks for the call.

2651
02:08:48,920 --> 02:08:50,880
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. One last thing I wanted to talk

2652
02:08:50,920 --> 02:08:53,640
Speaker 1: to you about before we go. Did you read There's

2653
02:08:53,680 --> 02:08:56,600
Speaker 1: a little something on now. Donovan McNabb was asked by

2654
02:08:56,840 --> 02:09:02,360
Speaker 1: TMZ Sports about the quality of his career and he said,

2655
02:09:02,960 --> 02:09:05,560
Speaker 1: and I quote, I am a Hall of Famer. My

2656
02:09:05,760 --> 02:09:09,160
Speaker 1: numbers speak for themselves. My numbers are better than Troy Aikman's.

2657
02:09:09,200 --> 02:09:11,360
Speaker 1: But he has Super Bowl rings and he's played with

2658
02:09:11,480 --> 02:09:14,000
Speaker 1: Hall of famers as well. What do you think about

2659
02:09:14,040 --> 02:09:16,240
Speaker 1: that little debate point? Do you think Donovan McNabb is

2660
02:09:16,240 --> 02:09:18,720
Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer? Yes, I do, but I don't

2661
02:09:18,840 --> 02:09:23,200
Speaker 1: necessarily think he should be throwing shade at Troy Aikman,

2662
02:09:23,320 --> 02:09:25,840
Speaker 1: so to speak. I mean, Troy Aikman has been he's

2663
02:09:25,920 --> 02:09:28,360
Speaker 1: kind of become the guy that everyone kind of attacks

2664
02:09:28,400 --> 02:09:30,640
Speaker 1: for the Hall of Fame because his numbers weren't great.

2665
02:09:30,640 --> 02:09:32,560
Speaker 1: He had a lot of talent around him, everything, everything

2666
02:09:32,640 --> 02:09:35,640
Speaker 1: like that. They also made it. They were a highly

2667
02:09:35,720 --> 02:09:38,440
Speaker 1: successful team, and I don't know that they would have

2668
02:09:38,520 --> 02:09:40,760
Speaker 1: been the same without Troy Aikman. So, you know, you

2669
02:09:40,800 --> 02:09:43,040
Speaker 1: can slice it up however you want. But the numbers

2670
02:09:43,120 --> 02:09:45,760
Speaker 1: also are a little bit skewed here because he played

2671
02:09:46,160 --> 02:09:48,720
Speaker 1: in a different era than Troy Aikman, and you know

2672
02:09:48,840 --> 02:09:50,920
Speaker 1: that they overlapped one year the end of Troy. He

2673
02:09:51,000 --> 02:09:53,920
Speaker 1: got drafted in ninety nine and Aikman was done in

2674
02:09:53,960 --> 02:09:57,360
Speaker 1: two thousand. So for McNabb, they threw it a ton

2675
02:09:57,600 --> 02:10:00,800
Speaker 1: with him at the Helm and and you know, they

2676
02:10:00,920 --> 02:10:03,640
Speaker 1: were depending a lot on Emmett Smith and and all

2677
02:10:03,680 --> 02:10:05,240
Speaker 1: of these things, and it's just it was just a

2678
02:10:05,320 --> 02:10:08,040
Speaker 1: different game. Rules were changing as Donovan and McNabb was

2679
02:10:08,080 --> 02:10:09,840
Speaker 1: in was in the league to where it was more

2680
02:10:09,880 --> 02:10:12,800
Speaker 1: of a past friendly system. So I don't know. I

2681
02:10:13,320 --> 02:10:15,480
Speaker 1: I think I think it's sure. I mean I kind

2682
02:10:15,520 --> 02:10:17,240
Speaker 1: of do too. You look at his numbers, I don't

2683
02:10:17,360 --> 02:10:19,320
Speaker 1: I don't get caught up in should he or should

2684
02:10:19,320 --> 02:10:21,280
Speaker 1: he not? Be a Hall of Fame by all that much?

2685
02:10:21,840 --> 02:10:24,320
Speaker 1: For a lot of reasons. The Philadelphia Eagles were a

2686
02:10:24,440 --> 02:10:28,720
Speaker 1: laughing stock organization before Donovan mcnabber robbed. They got four

2687
02:10:29,440 --> 02:10:31,560
Speaker 1: a NFC championship games in a row. Of course, they

2688
02:10:31,600 --> 02:10:33,440
Speaker 1: didn't get to the game. They got to the game once,

2689
02:10:33,480 --> 02:10:35,880
Speaker 1: and that's the game where he notoriously got sick during

2690
02:10:35,920 --> 02:10:40,480
Speaker 1: the game. Um. But Donovan McNabb carried that franchise on

2691
02:10:40,560 --> 02:10:42,360
Speaker 1: his back for the better part of a decade and

2692
02:10:42,480 --> 02:10:44,840
Speaker 1: did a lot of great things for it and was

2693
02:10:44,920 --> 02:10:48,520
Speaker 1: a stellar competitor and a great quarterback. And I think

2694
02:10:48,560 --> 02:10:53,240
Speaker 1: he is a Hall of Famer. Um. I don't either way.

2695
02:10:53,240 --> 02:10:56,360
Speaker 1: Too much bothers me. It's a little bit distasteful for

2696
02:10:56,400 --> 02:10:58,600
Speaker 1: me to have a guy compaigning for himself out there

2697
02:10:58,680 --> 02:11:01,560
Speaker 1: like that. But and he's asked I you know, he

2698
02:11:01,680 --> 02:11:03,520
Speaker 1: said it, and I don't think he should shy away

2699
02:11:03,520 --> 02:11:04,960
Speaker 1: from it if that's the way he really feels, so

2700
02:11:05,440 --> 02:11:07,560
Speaker 1: all right, more, I just want to get that out there.

2701
02:11:08,120 --> 02:11:09,440
Speaker 1: He said it, and it was kind of one of

2702
02:11:09,480 --> 02:11:12,680
Speaker 1: the things. So good stuff. One Bill's Live presented by

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Speaker 1: Kalida Health from one Bill's Drive. We're gonna come back

2704
02:11:14,440 --> 02:11:17,080
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2705
02:11:17,120 --> 02:11:20,080
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2706
02:11:20,280 --> 02:11:22,480
Speaker 1: We're gonna come back and talk about what have we

2707
02:11:22,600 --> 02:11:25,480
Speaker 1: learned on the way to getting here. Murphy is out

2708
02:11:25,520 --> 02:11:27,200
Speaker 1: for Friday. We're gonna be gone for the weekend. So

2709
02:11:27,240 --> 02:11:28,840
Speaker 1: if you have a call or whatever, we may get

2710
02:11:28,880 --> 02:11:31,000
Speaker 1: to one call before we get out of here, but

2711
02:11:31,280 --> 02:11:51,720
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Speaker 1: of the Buffalo Bills. We spoke today about some of

2716
02:12:03,520 --> 02:12:06,520
Speaker 1: the more intriguing players we're gonna be watching in this preseason,

2717
02:12:06,840 --> 02:12:10,120
Speaker 1: and the return of Matt Milano from a broken leg

2718
02:12:10,880 --> 02:12:13,840
Speaker 1: was one of those players. We asked Lorenzo Alexander about

2719
02:12:14,440 --> 02:12:20,040
Speaker 1: Matt Milano and his recovery from that injury. He's looking good. Um,

2720
02:12:20,240 --> 02:12:22,480
Speaker 1: I think he's had a lot of time in the

2721
02:12:22,520 --> 02:12:24,240
Speaker 1: offseason to rehab. You know, I was one of the

2722
02:12:24,280 --> 02:12:26,160
Speaker 1: guys that stayed around and he was up here putting

2723
02:12:26,200 --> 02:12:29,000
Speaker 1: into work. He's definitely bigger and stronger. I think this

2724
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Speaker 1: year he's actually our strength. Staff does a great job

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Speaker 1: of pairing people together to work out with, and him

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Speaker 1: and Julian Stafford have really been two guys to work out.

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Speaker 1: And if you ever see Julian Stafford walking around here,

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Speaker 1: he looked like a Greek god, you know, So he

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Speaker 1: looks right. So I think they strategically put Matt alongside

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Speaker 1: of him just to get him a little bigger and

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Speaker 1: more robust this year so he can endure the impact

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Speaker 1: that a NFL season has on your body. But he's

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Speaker 1: still fast, still instinctive, and you could just see his

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Speaker 1: growth and I'm excited to see him take that next

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Speaker 1: step along with you remain and see really what those

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Speaker 1: guys do for a sixteen week patm. That was Lorenzo

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Speaker 1: Alexander and what have we learned about Matt Malana recovering

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Speaker 1: from his injury? Presented by Advanced Alarms And I got

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Speaker 1: to thank our co host today, Joe Bascali. Joe, thanks

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Speaker 1: for coming in. It was fun. We had a blast. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think, thanks very much. It's always a fun time

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Speaker 1: of year to get into the OTAs when you first

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Speaker 1: start to see these guys. Yeah, it was fun. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for awesome. I appreciate it. No show on Monday, We'll

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Speaker 1: be back Tuesday. Murph will be back from vacation. Enjoy

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Speaker 1: the holiday weekend everybody, and thanks to our production assistant

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Speaker 1: George Bloss, Jeff Colteneck, Thomas Hollander, Kelly Rude, JJ Tarito,

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Speaker 1: Kevin Kargis and James Robin and of course our producer

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Speaker 1: Jay Harris. Thanks everybody, and we'll see you on Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: Enjoy the holidays.