Speaker 1: I've had a lot of people ask me, how could
Speaker 1: you tour and go and leave your family and your
Speaker 1: friends and leave them at home and be okay with that?
Speaker 1: And it's a great question. And usually what I think
Speaker 1: when someone asked me a question like that is I
Speaker 1: think about soldiers that are deployed because they have a
Speaker 1: much more noble respect for being away from the family.
Speaker 1: Like me going and playing music isn't as noble as
Speaker 1: a man or a woman saying I'm deploying overseas in Afghanistan.
Speaker 1: There's a big difference in those two, I think. And
Speaker 1: those are that are deploying overseas are gone a lot
Speaker 1: longer than any tour could possibly be. It doesn't change
Speaker 1: the fact that I've thought about it a lot. I
Speaker 1: think about it a lot. I think about it every
Speaker 1: time I go out, which hasn't been in a while
Speaker 1: because of the craziness of the world. But as I've
Speaker 1: gotten older and my family has grown and my roots
Speaker 1: have gotten deeper in Texas, it occurs to me a
Speaker 1: lot like man, I'm leaving, I'm leaving home. What am
Speaker 1: I leaving behind? And I have an answer to that.
Speaker 1: It's multi step, but I have answers that I feel
Speaker 1: like really justify me being gone. Then anyone that travels
Speaker 1: for a living could listen to this. And I think
Speaker 1: because I've thought so much about it and I've I've
Speaker 1: gotten to digest it so much, I think anyone could
Speaker 1: benefit from these thoughts, even if you're just a weekend
Speaker 1: or you have to leave for the weekend, or you
Speaker 1: just have to leave on Mondays and Tuesdays. And if
Speaker 1: you're an over the road trucker, or maybe if you
Speaker 1: are a soldier and you're listening to this, I think
Speaker 1: it could to you. And that's the question I got today,
Speaker 1: and me and my buddy Bernie, we're here on this podcast.
Speaker 1: We're going to dissect that question go through. I'm going
Speaker 1: to tell you everything I think about it, and we
Speaker 1: got a lot of questions. And if you have anything
Speaker 1: for me, anything at all, could just be a shout out,
Speaker 1: could be music related, could be tour related, could be
Speaker 1: world related, or career related, or you just need to talk.
Speaker 1: Email me Granger Smith Podcast at gmail dot com. I'll
Speaker 1: put it in an archive and we'll throw it on
Speaker 1: here on a Monday morning podcast. Thank you for joining
Speaker 1: us wherever you are. I appreciate you giving me this platform.
Speaker 1: Wherever you're listening, whatever you're doing, whenever you listen, whatever
Speaker 1: your ritual is for listening to this podcast. I'm just
Speaker 1: grateful you're here and that you keep coming back. And
Speaker 1: if you're brand new, welcome. This is the Granger Smith Podcast.
Speaker 1: Ye yee did chants and decent times and long line
Speaker 1: of five, fool of huspit down going back range and
Speaker 1: cool one evage. Yeah you'reation burning your back back. Thanks
Speaker 1: for having me back from pumped man. Yeah, we've been
Speaker 1: planning this for a little bit. We want to make
Speaker 1: this a regular thing where it's you know, I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's once a month or twice a month.
Speaker 1: But you're just so good on this podcast and answering questions.
Speaker 1: I love your advice for me. I figured other people
Speaker 1: could love your advice for them. Yeah, well, back at you, man.
Speaker 1: You're good on this podcast, which is why it's the
Speaker 1: Granger Smith Podcast. All right, all right, I'll tell you,
Speaker 1: all right, let's dig into some questions here I went there.
Speaker 1: I kind of sprinkled in some light ones, some heavy ones,
Speaker 1: some music ones this first one, and I don't know
Speaker 1: what order that they're coming up, So here we go,
Speaker 1: let's hit it. The first one says, Hey Granger, it's
Speaker 1: Connor here. First off, I want to let you know
Speaker 1: love the new album. Here's my question as an artist,
Speaker 1: what is something you look for in your musicians? What's
Speaker 1: something that makes you go, wow, I want this guy
Speaker 1: to play for me. I know you've previously mentioned that
Speaker 1: your band pretty much has stayed there since the beginning,
Speaker 1: but as a professional drummer, I wanted to know for
Speaker 1: myself what do you look for and what stands out PS.
Speaker 1: It's a long time dream to play for you. One
Speaker 1: time I had a feeling that PS was coming. Connor
Speaker 1: was like, what are you looking for? You know, like,
Speaker 1: that's a good question, and I always wonder, can I
Speaker 1: see this question come up with a bunch? So I
Speaker 1: wonder if if musicians kind of map together a game
Speaker 1: plan on how to how to land a gig that
Speaker 1: they want and probably a lot of things I'll say
Speaker 1: is the things that you don't want to hear as
Speaker 1: a new musician, meaning not a front guy, not the
Speaker 1: not the lead singer. Musicians have a different path and
Speaker 1: to me, of course you got to have talent, but
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways, talent just kind of open
Speaker 1: the door and you see massive, huge touring bands, and
Speaker 1: sometimes they don't have the greatest musicians. That other factors
Speaker 1: come into play, So networking is huge for musicians. Networking
Speaker 1: so that you can get on that short list of
Speaker 1: a lot of people where they say, do you guys
Speaker 1: know any drummers? This happens to me all the time.
Speaker 1: I'll get text from singers or other band members that say, hey, man,
Speaker 1: looking for a drummer. Let me know if you know anybody.
Speaker 1: It happens a lot, So you need to be on
Speaker 1: my short list so that I reference you to whoever
Speaker 1: asked that question. How do you do that? Well, I
Speaker 1: would start going to If you don't know anybody in
Speaker 1: the industry in your genre, I guess your country music.
Speaker 1: You didn't say I would go to. I would start
Speaker 1: with the closest place where you live that has live music,
Speaker 1: and get there before the door's open, and stay there
Speaker 1: after the doors close, and just here's where's what I do.
Speaker 1: I would literally walk around to the back of the
Speaker 1: venue and don't be a creeper, but that's where the
Speaker 1: band is. The band's out there putting stuff in the trailer.
Speaker 1: I would just walk up and say, what's up, man,
Speaker 1: I'm Connor. Go up to the drummer and say, I'm
Speaker 1: Connor Man. Great show tonight. H What was the symbol
Speaker 1: that you had on the left? You know, ask him
Speaker 1: a couple of questions, flatter him a little bit, and
Speaker 1: just say I live down the road. I'm actually a
Speaker 1: drummer too. I'm looking to get into this business. And
Speaker 1: if he's a nice guy, you guys exchange numbers and
Speaker 1: that's that's step one. How did you find musicians at
Speaker 1: the time? I don't know fantastic answer for Connor that
Speaker 1: you want to hear as I don't know, but three
Speaker 1: friend of a friend I could answer for you, though. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think what what jumps to mind is there's this
Speaker 1: small little book that nobody's probably ever heard of, called
Speaker 1: How to Win Friends and Influence People. But I think
Speaker 1: if you take some of you know, Connor, pick that up,
Speaker 1: read some of those principles, I think that a lot
Speaker 1: of that is that's good for everyone, by the way,
Speaker 1: in any industry. Yeah, it's a great book. I think
Speaker 1: it's going to point you to one just be really
Speaker 1: damn good at what you do and also be very likable. Like,
Speaker 1: we want to recommend people that we love to work
Speaker 1: with and that are thoughtful and that are generous and
Speaker 1: consider it. When you're really good at your craft, it
Speaker 1: makes it that much easier to say, oh, call Connor.
Speaker 1: But even if you're just on your way up and
Speaker 1: you become very likable, people just want to recommend people
Speaker 1: that they like. So yeah, so true. My first band
Speaker 1: that I put together, I was going to Texas A
Speaker 1: and M. I was a freshman, and I put it.
Speaker 1: This is back when I don't think people put classified
Speaker 1: ads out anymore, but the school paper it was called
Speaker 1: The Battalion A Texas A and M, and everyone read it.
Speaker 1: I don't know if they still do, it's been a
Speaker 1: long time, but there was a classified section in the
Speaker 1: back of it, and I took out a you know,
Speaker 1: twenty dollars or whatever it costs. I think it was
Speaker 1: like twenty bucks to put an ad in there and
Speaker 1: said country singer looking for country band, serious gigs in line.
Speaker 1: I still remember that I didn't have any gigs. I
Speaker 1: just lied about that. I just thought that they would
Speaker 1: drop me serious gigs coming. I didn't have any gigs
Speaker 1: on the books. I just thought that they would be coming.
Speaker 1: I was pretty sure they would be coming. You were hopeful.
Speaker 1: You got to have hope, have hope. Man. Then I
Speaker 1: only got one call from that, but it was a
Speaker 1: keyboard player, Eric Verreira. I don't remember area. So he
Speaker 1: called me and he goes, I'm a piano player and
Speaker 1: I saw your ad and I was like, okay. So
Speaker 1: we met at the library and I remember there was
Speaker 1: a piano in there and he played Garth Brooks the
Speaker 1: dance that's like. That was his audition and I was like,
Speaker 1: this is great, You're great. But through Eric, he knew
Speaker 1: a bass player. The bass player knew a guitar player. Long,
Speaker 1: long story short, everyone had a little shortlist. Everyone knows
Speaker 1: somebody that plays something, and then that that network just
Speaker 1: expands out. So Connor, you want to get on in
Speaker 1: many of those shortlists as you possibly can. And Bernie's right,
Speaker 1: you also want to be really likable, So talent super important.
Speaker 1: Likability is probably even more important. It probably beats talent
Speaker 1: every time because you have a really really talented drummer,
Speaker 1: it's just an a hole you're gonna No one wants
Speaker 1: to hire that guy. No one cares that much. Because
Speaker 1: once you can play a certain to a certain ability.
Speaker 1: You're you're in the game, and then you'll just keep
Speaker 1: on improving when you're in the gig. So this can
Speaker 1: apply to everyone in every career. In every job, be
Speaker 1: on the short list. If you have a trade of
Speaker 1: some kind, be on somebody's short list. It could you
Speaker 1: could just be an everything guy. At Eye Apparel. We're
Speaker 1: always looking for an everything guy. And in your business,
Speaker 1: I'm sure you are too, but it always comes up
Speaker 1: and you're like, man, I wish I had a guy
Speaker 1: that could just do a lot of things really well.
Speaker 1: The last thing I'll say to this Connor, is start
Speaker 1: a YouTube channel. Don't worry about getting subscribers and views,
Speaker 1: but just get some of your work online. Be ready
Speaker 1: to have a you know, a handful of videos. I
Speaker 1: would say you need about ten videos if you If
Speaker 1: you don't have a gig right now at all, just
Speaker 1: record in your bedroom playing songs that way whenever you
Speaker 1: whenever it does come up and you do meet somebody
Speaker 1: and they say, well do you have anything of you playing,
Speaker 1: you go boom. Here's here's my YouTube page. Scroll through it.
Speaker 1: You could see different genres, different styles, and me playing
Speaker 1: that's I think that pretty much covers it. Yep. Yeah,
Speaker 1: here's here's one. It says, Hey, Grangeer, my name is Yosi.
Speaker 1: I live in Israel, and I wanted to ask you
Speaker 1: what you think about Israel and if you would ever
Speaker 1: come perform in Israel. And I probably don't see any
Speaker 1: gigs coming in the future in Israel, it would be awesome.
Speaker 1: I don't off all the places in the world. I
Speaker 1: don't see my career just exploding in Israel. But I
Speaker 1: think it's an interesting question. Yo, see that you're listening,
Speaker 1: because maybe I'm saying it wrong. Y O s s
Speaker 1: I you'll see. And I want I really want to
Speaker 1: go to Israel. I've never been, You've never been, right,
Speaker 1: we should go together. I would love to get a
Speaker 1: following going, and we'll come and you know, we'll hang out,
Speaker 1: we'll check it out and maybe do a show, play
Speaker 1: a small acoustic show and pay for our expenses to
Speaker 1: get there. Maybe we'll do a podcast in Israel. Yeah, Man,
Speaker 1: absolutely love is country music like big there? No no,
Speaker 1: I could say. I could say it's big in a
Speaker 1: lot of places, but I've never heard anyone say. Man,
Speaker 1: the Israel country market's really exploding right now. I've never
Speaker 1: heard anyone the opportunity for you, buddy, Here we go.
Speaker 1: It's wide open. It's a raw market. But I love man,
Speaker 1: I love I love the history there, and I will
Speaker 1: go there, god willing, in my lifetime. I would love
Speaker 1: to go, and maybe Bernie Leslie and me and Amber
Speaker 1: and do you they have some really good guides there. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But it seems like I've had a lot of people
Speaker 1: that recommend a guy. They're like, oh, you got to
Speaker 1: talk to Mark or whatever, and he's he's from Pennsylvania,
Speaker 1: but he moved to Jerusalem and now he takes tours
Speaker 1: over there and he's really good. I've heard a lot
Speaker 1: of people say that. Yeah. So John Piper, his mother
Speaker 1: died in a bus tour in Jerusalem. Really yeah, wow,
Speaker 1: like a accident, Yeah yeah, yeah it was. This is
Speaker 1: an evangelist that Bernie and I both follow, and I've
Speaker 1: talked about him on this podcast before. John Piper, He's amazing.
Speaker 1: But his mother it was like probably twenty years ago.
Speaker 1: Mother and father were visiting on tour and bus crashed,
Speaker 1: tourist bus and she died instantly, and his dad went
Speaker 1: into critical condition when but recovered. So that was quite
Speaker 1: a phone call that he received about that. But yeah,
Speaker 1: you'll see. Let's do it. Here's a question that says
Speaker 1: I want to start by saying thank you for opening
Speaker 1: up yourself to the world and allowing us to see
Speaker 1: your heart and learn from your life experiences. My question is,
Speaker 1: how have you been able to rise above circumstances in
Speaker 1: your personal and professional life when you feel like you're
Speaker 1: stuck and you don't know what God's plan is for
Speaker 1: your future. Let me explain further. I'm a man who,
Speaker 1: like most, has peaks and valleys in my life. In
Speaker 1: the overall sense of life, I'm blessed beyond what I deserve.
Speaker 1: I have a wonderful, loving wife, a healthy, beautiful daughter,
Speaker 1: and people who care about me. I'm a man of
Speaker 1: faith just as yourself, and feel that God has had
Speaker 1: his hand on my life in many different ways. But
Speaker 1: I'm currently in a season where I'm just struggling. My goal,
Speaker 1: as long as I can remember, it was to be
Speaker 1: a great provider as a husband and father for my family.
Speaker 1: Even before I was married and had a child. That
Speaker 1: was my goal. I have followed different career paths, options
Speaker 1: and had different kinds of successes and failures. My wife
Speaker 1: has been supportive through all of my endeavors and we
Speaker 1: moved together as a team. Earlier this year, I was
Speaker 1: let go from a job that I thought was going
Speaker 1: to be my dream career and I could see myself
Speaker 1: growing from the company in the company for the rest
Speaker 1: of my working days. But I was let go for
Speaker 1: some personal health reasons and then all this COVID stuff
Speaker 1: hit and all the jobs that I was interviewing for
Speaker 1: were frozen. I was able to find some basic hourly
Speaker 1: work to help us get by, but in no way
Speaker 1: is this a permanent solution. Every day I wake up
Speaker 1: feeling unfulfilled that I'm not properly taking care of my
Speaker 1: responsibilities as the head of my house. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: stay positive, but I continue to struggle. Thank you for
Speaker 1: any insight and continue to do what you do. You
Speaker 1: reach people in a deeper way. And this is from
Speaker 1: Jared from Nashville, Tennessee. Jared shout out to Nashville, Tennessee,
Speaker 1: where Bernie and I met. Yeah. Time, great, there's a
Speaker 1: great question, Jared, and a very I don't want to
Speaker 1: I don't wanna simplify it, but it's a common question
Speaker 1: and that's not minimalizing your struggle. But it's common to
Speaker 1: be where you are and to think like you're thinking.
Speaker 1: The uncommon thing is probably to recognize it and to
Speaker 1: reach out for help in it. Most people start to
Speaker 1: get used to the struggle, the the being stuck feeling,
Speaker 1: and they just kind of think that life is out
Speaker 1: to get them and they're a victim of life. And
Speaker 1: other people are luckier than they are or more privileged
Speaker 1: than they are, and they just have a bad streak.
Speaker 1: But you don't sound like that. You sound like you're
Speaker 1: you're trying to take personal responsibility for this feeling, and
Speaker 1: that's awesome. Some you say, I'm trying to stay positive,
Speaker 1: but I continue to struggle. And Bernie, what do you
Speaker 1: say to Jared here? How do you start this? Jared?
Speaker 1: You a and alone grangeer myself, probably most of the
Speaker 1: people watching this have been where you are or are
Speaker 1: currently where you are. I tend to try to look
Speaker 1: at things, try to drift kind of out of the situation, uh,
Speaker 1: and try to look at it from a higher perspective
Speaker 1: before I kind of get into details. This is really
Speaker 1: hard to because usually with things like this, you're having
Speaker 1: a conversation and there's a lot of questions. There's a
Speaker 1: dialogue happening, and so with Jared, it's like I can't
Speaker 1: I got a lot of questions. I'd love to ask you,
Speaker 1: but you know, to to really dig into this, but
Speaker 1: we can't do that. So I think the it sounds
Speaker 1: like you have a positive outlook, even in a positive mindset,
Speaker 1: even in the midst of these continual struggles. I think
Speaker 1: the biggest and this is with anything, I think the
Speaker 1: biggest mistake that we can all make is confusing the
Speaker 1: things that we can control and the things we cannot control.
Speaker 1: So all we can focus on, all of our energy
Speaker 1: has to be focused on the things that we can control.
Speaker 1: The things that you're doing. You're you're continually continuing to
Speaker 1: look for a job, You're continuing to you know, put
Speaker 1: yourself out there to love on your family, whatever is
Speaker 1: in front of you that you feel like God has
Speaker 1: given you the opportunity, like you are working hard at
Speaker 1: those things and pushing towards those things. There's so much
Speaker 1: much that's not in our control. When we start to
Speaker 1: try to manipulate those things and like strangle it to happen,
Speaker 1: and we start to force it, then our mindset are
Speaker 1: our faith, our heart, everything could just get out of
Speaker 1: sync because what we've done is we've taken the reins
Speaker 1: over from from God being in control of the things
Speaker 1: that he's in control of, and and we've we've we've
Speaker 1: tried to take those over instead of just focus focusing on, Hey,
Speaker 1: here's what I've given you. What if this season of
Speaker 1: struggles for a reason, like there's there's you know, real
Speaker 1: growth and uh and you know, like the first part
Speaker 1: of James says, consider it joy when you experience trials
Speaker 1: and many kinds because the testing of your faith will
Speaker 1: produce perseverance. Not just go ahead and bear it when
Speaker 1: you experienced trial, like consider it joy. Like that's crazy,
Speaker 1: Like that's hard to get your head around. But Jared,
Speaker 1: I think that you may be in one of these
Speaker 1: situations where you just stop and say, Okay, well, where
Speaker 1: is the joy in this struggle? What does that mean?
Speaker 1: And really dig into that look and see the things
Speaker 1: around you that God's given you to control and work
Speaker 1: hard at those things, work diligently at those things, and
Speaker 1: then the rest. You just have to put your faith
Speaker 1: in Him that He's He's got you on a path
Speaker 1: and that path is for your good man, that's awesome. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right on. And the cool thing is you have
Speaker 1: said what's amazing about I've gotten this stuck question a
Speaker 1: lot in this podcast, and but what's different about yours
Speaker 1: is you says, my wife has been supportive of all
Speaker 1: mind evors and we have made those moves as a team. Yeah.
Speaker 1: That's awesome, man, that's so that's so awesome that you
Speaker 1: have her as a teammate in this because then what
Speaker 1: do teammates do. They win and lose together, They struggle
Speaker 1: together in the trenches together, and then that makes victory
Speaker 1: happen together, and you celebrate together and you cry together.
Speaker 1: And if you could look at her and she continues
Speaker 1: to look at you that way, then you could go
Speaker 1: to her right now and you could say, babe, struggling
Speaker 1: right now, I feel like I'm not fulfilling my duty
Speaker 1: as what did you say, head of the household? And
Speaker 1: watch her sounds like, watch her lift you up and
Speaker 1: just say you're doing great, You're doing everything you need
Speaker 1: to be doing. Right now. I'm assuming that this is
Speaker 1: the kind of girl that's going to say that, And
Speaker 1: then what do you what are you trying to be
Speaker 1: at that point? What are you what is this this
Speaker 1: mystical head of the household that you were talking about.
Speaker 1: It sounds like it's just a financial thing. It's talking
Speaker 1: about I wish we had more money in our savings account.
Speaker 1: But you're providing food and shelter and security and love
Speaker 1: and guidance to your family. That's all you need. You
Speaker 1: don't need, you don't need anything above that besides just
Speaker 1: pleasurable things, you know, a new jet, ski or whatever.
Speaker 1: So patience is going to be your key right now,
Speaker 1: and that's the key to so much of the world
Speaker 1: during twenty twenty COVID and now continuing into twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1: Just have patience that, like Bernie said, you can't control
Speaker 1: the marketplace right now. So what you could do is
Speaker 1: while you're practicing patience that the marketplace is going to
Speaker 1: come back and you're going to have these opportunities again,
Speaker 1: better yourself on a personal level, get better your relationship
Speaker 1: with your wife and your daughter. Enjoy that. Maybe a
Speaker 1: little extra time, like I'm having a little extra time
Speaker 1: with no touring, maybe you're gonna have a little bit
Speaker 1: extra time before you do step into what's it's probably
Speaker 1: going to be a long term career, your dream career.
Speaker 1: And the crazy thing about this it's so hard to
Speaker 1: see it when you are stuck. But from the outside
Speaker 1: looking in, looking at just the kind of guy you
Speaker 1: are writing this question, Guys like me and Bernie would
Speaker 1: look at you in five years and go, Jared from Nashville,
Speaker 1: how's it going, Oh, man, I actually ended up landing
Speaker 1: a really awesome job and we're you know, we're doing good.
Speaker 1: I'm moving And me and Bernie would go, yeah, we
Speaker 1: thought that, we knew that's gonna happen. It's nothing like
Speaker 1: what I thought it was going to be. You know,
Speaker 1: it took me a different way to get here, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it seems like that's yeah, So life goes.
Speaker 1: You could definitely be this whole thing is most likely
Speaker 1: a blessing in disguise to get you to the career
Speaker 1: that you probably would not have been available to get
Speaker 1: if you had been in the other job. So hang
Speaker 1: in there, man, hang in there, day by day patience
Speaker 1: and erase this idea of I can't I can't remember
Speaker 1: where you put it of I'm I'm not living up
Speaker 1: to the expectation. Where did you say that? Oh? Here
Speaker 1: it is that I'm not properly taking care of my
Speaker 1: responsibilities as the head of the house. Take that out
Speaker 1: of your mind. I know it's hard, and it's admirable
Speaker 1: that you think that way, but just to erase that
Speaker 1: part because you are. Yeah, if you weren't doing that,
Speaker 1: you wouldn't have a loving wife next to you supporting
Speaker 1: you in highs and lows and every endeavor. The men
Speaker 1: that don't have that and neglect that for career and status,
Speaker 1: they're actually the ones that I feel are neglecting their
Speaker 1: responsibility as head of the household. That is a great point.
Speaker 1: That's a great point. Yeah, you could be in a
Speaker 1: really awesome career, making a ton of money, just flying
Speaker 1: up the corporate ladder, doing your dream job and totally
Speaker 1: unfulfilling your your responsibilities at the head of the house.
Speaker 1: That's easy. That's probably more more likely to happen than
Speaker 1: underplaying the career. So yeah, that's that's a great point.
Speaker 1: Ye ye man, you're living it. You're living it. Enjoy
Speaker 1: this chapter of your life, this season of your life.
Speaker 1: That might feel like struggle, but I would say enjoy.
Speaker 1: This is a transition before the page turns and something
Speaker 1: else happens. It's coming it's coming. Let's see if I
Speaker 1: can get it one more before we take a break.
Speaker 1: Like how everybody references like twenty twenty, It's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: COVID twenty twenty. It's like we got to New Year's
Speaker 1: and everybody's like, yes, twenty one. Here we go. It's
Speaker 1: like then we're kind of still the same. It's nothing
Speaker 1: is you do have hope? Guys? Yeah, yeah, it's not
Speaker 1: quite the uh, the same cut off as we thought.
Speaker 1: I almost squeeze one more in before we take a break.
Speaker 1: And this is an easy one. It says, Hey g ander,
Speaker 1: my name's Chad. I live in Morganton, North Carolina. Shout
Speaker 1: out to NC says I have a cheap, thirty dollars drone.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about getting a better one. I've always wondered
Speaker 1: what type of drone do you use for filming? The
Speaker 1: one that the one I have said it was ten
Speaker 1: ADP when I ordered it, but turned out that was
Speaker 1: just clickbait. Thanks for taking your time and connecting with us. Yeah,
Speaker 1: don't spend thirty dollars on a drone. Don't spend thirty
Speaker 1: dollars on any camera and expect it to perform for you.
Speaker 1: I have a good answer for you, and this is
Speaker 1: this is not sponsored or there's no money involved. But
Speaker 1: I fly a Dji Mavic Mini. Now there is a
Speaker 1: Magic Mini too on Amazon, and I believe it's like
Speaker 1: just under four hundred bucks. So it's a big step
Speaker 1: from thirty dollars, but it's a big step down from
Speaker 1: what you're gonna see typically a twelve, thirteen, fourteen hundred
Speaker 1: dollars drones that Mavick will make. MAVC Mini is the
Speaker 1: smallest of their line and the cheapest of their line,
Speaker 1: but it is phenomenal. I use it for all of
Speaker 1: my videography. I've flown it over Niagara Falls and the Mountain,
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Speaker 1: times you wake up? This morning? Burns five thirty, No snooze,
Speaker 1: No snooze. I wanted to so bad. Actually, I work
Speaker 1: out with a buddy of mine. We do this, He'll
Speaker 1: work out on Tuesdays, and so I know when I
Speaker 1: go to bed, it's like, dude, you got to get
Speaker 1: up and get to it because you know he's gonna
Speaker 1: be waiting on you. Yeah. Yeah, that's good. That's a
Speaker 1: good thing. What about days when somebody's not waiting on you.
Speaker 1: I still get up out of habit, but it's a
Speaker 1: little bit harder. It's like, is there do you have
Speaker 1: any tricks or anything? Like I know, for a long
Speaker 1: time Parker was like putting the alarm in another room
Speaker 1: or at the excuse me, at the other side of
Speaker 1: the room. So you have Actually I was so annoying,
Speaker 1: you have to actually get up. No, I mean my
Speaker 1: wife would like if I had to, she would just
Speaker 1: wake up if I had it like going off on
Speaker 1: another you know, another place. So no, I think it's
Speaker 1: more of like the fear of waking her up that early.
Speaker 1: So I just like, I hit it and get out
Speaker 1: of bed. Yeah that's that's a good, really good motivation.
Speaker 1: I don't do this all the time, and I should
Speaker 1: do it more to motivate me. But I always wake
Speaker 1: up to my watch vibrates, so it's Amber never hears it.
Speaker 1: But I've thought about it. I used to do this
Speaker 1: when we actually lived in a house, not an RV.
Speaker 1: I would put my phone like on a table and
Speaker 1: set the alarm for five minutes after my watch is
Speaker 1: going to go off, so I know, or like what
Speaker 1: I used to do it like two minutes sometimes, so
Speaker 1: I know, if I don't get up with that vibration
Speaker 1: on my hand, it's about the way camber up. I
Speaker 1: don't want to deal with that. Yeah, that's right. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought about you this morning because yeah, you'll have
Speaker 1: to show me I tried to do because you told
Speaker 1: me that last time, and I would love to do that.
Speaker 1: But how do you have it vibrate on the alarm,
Speaker 1: but like not on everything because I don't want like
Speaker 1: it vibrate and whenever text messages or or anything anything disturb. Okay,
Speaker 1: the alarm goes through, do not disturb, but nothing else does. Okay. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so the little half moon, Yeah, set that on if
Speaker 1: you don't want it ever buzzing you. Okay, gotcha. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love it. And I've noticed that when my alarm
Speaker 1: goes off, there's like a sixty second window when I
Speaker 1: have to get up when I actually feel awake. But
Speaker 1: then when sixty seconds goes by, it's like it feels
Speaker 1: really good just to lay here. Yep, let's let's dig
Speaker 1: in here, all right, It says. The subject line on
Speaker 1: this says, should I separate from the Hey grangeer. My
Speaker 1: name is Ryan. I'm from Port Orchard, Washington. Shout out
Speaker 1: to Washington. I currently just hit the halfway point in
Speaker 1: my military career, and I got my ten year point
Speaker 1: with the Navy on October sixth. I'm serving on a
Speaker 1: submarine in Banger, Washington, and I go underway about every
Speaker 1: six months. The underways, which I guess Army calls deployments,
Speaker 1: have gotten much harder since I had my son two
Speaker 1: years ago, and I just don't know how to justify
Speaker 1: staying in and missing him grow up. I don't want
Speaker 1: to miss him growing up, but if I stay in,
Speaker 1: I'll have some sort of financial security for the rest
Speaker 1: of my life. How do I justify one over the other.
Speaker 1: I figured you're a good person to ask, since you
Speaker 1: go on tour and you have to spend time away
Speaker 1: from your family on a regular basis. I love what
Speaker 1: you're doing with all the channels, and I'm glad you
Speaker 1: finally got into a ford. Have a good one in
Speaker 1: ug Ryan Ryan from Washington. Thanks for your service, Ryan, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: thanks for your service and great question. Complicated question, and
Speaker 1: once again a question that could that a lot of
Speaker 1: people could relate to. You don't You don't necessarily have
Speaker 1: to be in the Navy. You could be over the
Speaker 1: road trucker that goes on you know, that's out four
Speaker 1: days a week and n three. You could be could
Speaker 1: be a firefighter, you know, twenty four on and twenty
Speaker 1: four off and you're missing every other day, You're completely
Speaker 1: missing your family. Obviously, you could be a tour musician.
Speaker 1: I feel that although these days, unless I'm going to
Speaker 1: the West Coast, I mean, twenty one days is as
Speaker 1: long as I've ever been gone on a tour, and
Speaker 1: those days were really when I was in the in
Speaker 1: the heat of the struggle. And I don't see those
Speaker 1: kind of days anymore because I choose to spend money
Speaker 1: on airplane flights, which is a huge, huge privilege of
Speaker 1: being able to get some higher paying gigs. Before I
Speaker 1: had those gigs, I had no choice but to stay
Speaker 1: out on the road. And one of the things I
Speaker 1: quickly invested in when I was able to get higher
Speaker 1: paying gigs is airplane tickets. Don't think twice about it.
Speaker 1: I look at the year of income for me and
Speaker 1: I'm like, boom, that percentage is going to airplane tickets.
Speaker 1: And it sucks at some level because you look at
Speaker 1: it and you're like, dude, did you just spend four
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy five dollars on a round trip ticket
Speaker 1: to tour and back from tour. Look at all the
Speaker 1: stuff you could buy for four hundreds You could buy
Speaker 1: it Mattic drone in the insurance. But that's the price
Speaker 1: I pay to have an extra twenty four or forty
Speaker 1: eight hours at home. So some of my band members
Speaker 1: do that. Some of my band members that you know
Speaker 1: that will buy a flight that they shouldn't you know, financially,
Speaker 1: probably shouldn't be doing. But that's just the investment that
Speaker 1: I've seen people make. You Ryan don't have that choice.
Speaker 1: You go, you go off, and you you cannot come back.
Speaker 1: Six months, six six months, No, he goes. He says,
Speaker 1: I go under way every six months. So I don't
Speaker 1: know if that's six months gone, six months back. It's
Speaker 1: probably what that means. Right. Did he say if he
Speaker 1: is married or how old his kids were. No, he
Speaker 1: just says it's gotten harder since his son. He had
Speaker 1: his son two years ago. Okay, so sounds too. So
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's married, and I don't know
Speaker 1: if it's more than two years old. Sounds like it
Speaker 1: sounds like your son's two. Yeah. There's a couple of
Speaker 1: ways to look at this one. You could look at
Speaker 1: it the Garth Brooks way. Garth it's funny to even
Speaker 1: mention that, But Garth made it public that he was
Speaker 1: going to hit touring as hard as he could until
Speaker 1: his daughters. Believe he his daughters became teenagers. As soon
Speaker 1: as they became teens, that's when Boom Garwth is retiring.
Speaker 1: Now you see Garth is now back in touring. That's
Speaker 1: because his daughters have now they're done with school. So
Speaker 1: he made the decision, not saying it's right or wrong,
Speaker 1: but he made the decision to be there during the
Speaker 1: teenage years of his kids every single day, no touring.
Speaker 1: So that's something to think about. Ryan. It's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: your son's two. How much impact can you make on
Speaker 1: your two year old right now compared to how much
Speaker 1: impact can you make on an eleven year old boy
Speaker 1: or ten year old boy? And that's still eight years
Speaker 1: from now. So you did you say how much longer?
Speaker 1: He said, you huge hit the halfway point in your career.
Speaker 1: You got to the tenure point. So add ten years
Speaker 1: to that. Your son's twelve. So one option is you
Speaker 1: finish out all your work in the Navy for another
Speaker 1: ten years I'm guessing your son's twelve, and then you
Speaker 1: retire and take a you know, work from home type
Speaker 1: job and you're with your son every single day from
Speaker 1: twelve years old on. That's an option. Knowing that if
Speaker 1: he's got a good mother, you know, she raises him
Speaker 1: to twelve every six months, you're in and out and
Speaker 1: then you really hit it when he's becoming a man.
Speaker 1: Don't know, I don't know if that if that's good
Speaker 1: or not. But it's an it's a option. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a option. Yeah, there there's there's definitely you know again,
Speaker 1: it's it's tough because you know, Ryan, we don't have
Speaker 1: you sitting here to ask you these questions. But I
Speaker 1: would be curious what the dialogue is like with you
Speaker 1: or are you married or you have a serious girlfriend,
Speaker 1: Like what is the dialogue with Like how does she
Speaker 1: feel about you being gone? There's a whole you know,
Speaker 1: like what is you know, what what does the world
Speaker 1: look like for you if you if you did leave
Speaker 1: the navy, what does life look like? There's you know,
Speaker 1: is there other opportunities? Is there other things that are
Speaker 1: kind of pulling at you that could be you know,
Speaker 1: or is this you feel like you're really pulled towards
Speaker 1: this and being guided towards this, But there's that that
Speaker 1: sacrifice that's being asked of you to like be away
Speaker 1: from your son, which is you know, admirable. For sure,
Speaker 1: it's a tough spot. I will say this, and I'm
Speaker 1: not going to advocate either way, but the idea of
Speaker 1: a father being there for for all the moments of
Speaker 1: a son growing up is a relatively new concept in
Speaker 1: human history. You know, like in the old days that
Speaker 1: you just the mother raised them and the father went
Speaker 1: and hunted the meat, yeah, and brought That's just how
Speaker 1: it was. So it's kind of a new concept that
Speaker 1: the modern culture has developed where it's like, no father
Speaker 1: needs to stay home all the time and be with
Speaker 1: the kids. And it's definitely not a bad thing. But
Speaker 1: I've also looked at it as a father that works
Speaker 1: a lot and it's gone a lot. Actually, Bernie, you
Speaker 1: taught me this a long time ago, that it's not
Speaker 1: the amount of time you're home, it's the amount of
Speaker 1: time that you're present when you are home. So you
Speaker 1: could be gone for six months and be and then
Speaker 1: comey be home for six months and be more present
Speaker 1: than the average father is the entire year that they're
Speaker 1: with their kids. They're with their kids every day, and
Speaker 1: a lot of guys will work a nine to five.
Speaker 1: So then you by the time you commute home and
Speaker 1: you're home by six, and you have dinner and the
Speaker 1: kids are already it's time for bath and bed. You
Speaker 1: got maybe forty five minutes on an average week with
Speaker 1: your kid, and are you present during that forty five minutes? Like,
Speaker 1: are you with them? Are you distracted because you're still
Speaker 1: cleaning up stuff from the day of work? Are you
Speaker 1: still are you trying to think about tomorrow? Are you
Speaker 1: just trying to unwind and watch the little Netflix and
Speaker 1: you don't want to mess with kids right now? This
Speaker 1: is this is real. This is a real story that
Speaker 1: you could be gone for six months, home for six
Speaker 1: months and still have more interaction with your kids. So
Speaker 1: that's that's the way I've justified it. When I'm on
Speaker 1: a long tour, I'm like, when I get home, I'm
Speaker 1: going to be super present and I'll do it for
Speaker 1: you know, all day for several days. Do I really
Speaker 1: do that? I try to. I don't. I don't always
Speaker 1: do it because I too get distracted and I have
Speaker 1: to set things and I had to set obstacles from
Speaker 1: me being around my phone or getting stuck on you know,
Speaker 1: on the computer, on email or whatever. So I have
Speaker 1: to force myself to be present, but I'm so glad
Speaker 1: when I do. So I've looked at it to justify this,
Speaker 1: is that A. I'm going to be super present when
Speaker 1: I when I am home, and B I'm also going
Speaker 1: to set an example to my kids that dad. When
Speaker 1: I grew up, Dad was he worked really hard, and
Speaker 1: he provided for us, and he was passionate about what
Speaker 1: he did. For in your case, he served our country
Speaker 1: in a submarine, and when he was home, he was awesome.
Speaker 1: He was focused on me, loved me, played with me.
Speaker 1: That's pretty awesome. Dad. That's a pretty great resume when
Speaker 1: you're when you're sixty years old. And I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: throw it out there. Your son's forty years old and
Speaker 1: your son goes Man, he's forty years old and he
Speaker 1: goes I remember growing up with dad. He was in
Speaker 1: a submarine. That is so awesome, he thought. And then
Speaker 1: when he came home he was so focused on me
Speaker 1: and he loved what he did. And now now he's
Speaker 1: set financially. Man, there is nothing wrong with that That
Speaker 1: makes up for the time you're on the sub missing
Speaker 1: your son. Yeah to me, yeah, no, absolutely I think really,
Speaker 1: your son is probably not old enough quite yet, but
Speaker 1: maybe at two, like and your wife or you know,
Speaker 1: significant other. I think it's just a conversation. Like if
Speaker 1: you're communicating like your heart behind why you're going, you know,
Speaker 1: back into the Navy, why you're doing this, why you're
Speaker 1: doing that. I feel like communication is the biggest breakdown
Speaker 1: it comes to these decisions, like we're just not talking
Speaker 1: with the people that are influenced and that we're trying
Speaker 1: to influence about why we're making the decision. Invite them
Speaker 1: into the conversation because then they feel like, you know,
Speaker 1: your son could be like you know, yeah, go get him, dad,
Speaker 1: Like he could be kind of like on your team
Speaker 1: and excited about you going so you can come back
Speaker 1: and tell them the stories and because he got to
Speaker 1: be a part of it. Yeah, So just the communication
Speaker 1: would be like I think a big part of it. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: Man if I sided her on this podcast and advocated
Speaker 1: for every person that's deployed in some way that they
Speaker 1: probably should quit their job to be a stay at
Speaker 1: home dad, man, that would be doing a total disservice
Speaker 1: to this country. When people say thank you for your service.
Speaker 1: Part of that is I hope you don't die. Thanks
Speaker 1: for volunteering to maybe die for the good. But another
Speaker 1: huge part of that is thank you for your sacrifice
Speaker 1: to your own family so that other families could live
Speaker 1: a free life. So that's a great point. I think
Speaker 1: that gets overlooked, but it's a great point people don't
Speaker 1: necessarily think about, you know, our military, our first responders,
Speaker 1: like healthcare workers right now. Like the sacrifice they're not
Speaker 1: only sacrifice in their their well being, but also the
Speaker 1: time they could be you know, with their families. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and Ryan's the perfect example. Man, you're you You're It's like,
Speaker 1: it's like the same problem as the last person that
Speaker 1: wrote in that you're stuck and you're struggling, except for
Speaker 1: you do have the job security and now you're stuck
Speaker 1: because you could have financial security but you don't. You
Speaker 1: don't have enough time. This is the opposite, exact opposite
Speaker 1: of the last question that was stuck with the family
Speaker 1: and didn't have the financial security. So this is a
Speaker 1: good example about humans are just not going to be content.
Speaker 1: You have to really dig deep to find that kind
Speaker 1: of contentment. Yeah, but great question. Man. Once again, thanks
Speaker 1: for your service and thanks for writing in. I know
Speaker 1: you'll make the right decision for you and your family.
Speaker 1: All Right, who we go? It says. The subject line
Speaker 1: is career search. Here we go? Right, this is the
Speaker 1: Granger Smith Career Podcast. I'm out of the job because
Speaker 1: of COVID, and so should you be. Let's see. My
Speaker 1: name is Ben. I'm from the West side of Michigan.
Speaker 1: I'm a huge fan of the podcast. It puts me
Speaker 1: in the right headspace to start the week. Thank you, Ben,
Speaker 1: I appreciate you joining us on Monday, says My question
Speaker 1: is this, how do I discern what the correct career
Speaker 1: is for me? I'm a junior in college studying business
Speaker 1: slash economics and wanting to do something in the field
Speaker 1: of marketing or market research. Both of those careers really
Speaker 1: interest me. However, what truly excites me the most is
Speaker 1: phishing and conservation. Those jobs are hard to come by
Speaker 1: in that industry, and often they make very little money.
Speaker 1: Is it wrong of me to pursue a career in
Speaker 1: marketing to make a little more money, even if it
Speaker 1: doesn't excite me as much? It says, I'm trying to
Speaker 1: lean on God in this search, but I wish I
Speaker 1: could hear from him more clearly, Thanks Ben, don't we
Speaker 1: all sometimes? Ben, I want to hear God more clearly
Speaker 1: what to do? God? Just write it in the cloud
Speaker 1: or something, you know, you send me a text on
Speaker 1: that great question, Ben, Yeah, I feel you, Bro. I
Speaker 1: think Bernie and I both could both relate to this
Speaker 1: in our in our lives. And Bernie is actually a great,
Speaker 1: a great person to be sitting here with this question
Speaker 1: because you eventually did choose the career over the just
Speaker 1: the passion. Yeah, it's a it's a really again. I
Speaker 1: know I keep saying this, guys, but it's such a
Speaker 1: tough thing to dissect these questions without a dialogue. So
Speaker 1: if all you guys want to come here to the
Speaker 1: farm and like sit in the audience, then we can.
Speaker 1: We can kind of have a dialogue. But we should
Speaker 1: that one day a live podcast with the studio audience,
Speaker 1: all right, coming soon in a non COVID world, do
Speaker 1: you but without that luxury because I don't know necessarily
Speaker 1: if if I I think it's really just about like
Speaker 1: what's you know, what's your purpose? I think you just
Speaker 1: got to you got to figure out what your purpose
Speaker 1: in life is. And that's going to be different for everybody.
Speaker 1: Based on experience, belief systems, where you are in your journey,
Speaker 1: and what things do you value. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: do you value money? Why? You know, what's what's you know,
Speaker 1: driving and then just kind of like spend some time
Speaker 1: dissecting a lot of these different questions. And I think
Speaker 1: once you kind of spend some time just alone writing
Speaker 1: questions down and answering them and really digging into it,
Speaker 1: I think you could probably look at all of that
Speaker 1: and it's going to probably point you towards one way
Speaker 1: or another. Yeah, I don't know, it's such a hard
Speaker 1: thing because I don't think that a career is something
Speaker 1: that we just choose one day, Oh hey, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go do this. I mean, you can decide that in
Speaker 1: your mind, but we all know that working out all
Speaker 1: the time doesn't necessarily happen, especially being nineteen or twenty
Speaker 1: years old that I'm assuming you are a junior in college. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just I think that life is an adventure and
Speaker 1: it's a journey, and it's so exciting if you kind
Speaker 1: of you're on a roller coaster, put your hands up
Speaker 1: and enjoy it and don't necessarily worry about what money
Speaker 1: you're going to make. Five years from now, or my
Speaker 1: I'm going to what my career, long career is going
Speaker 1: to be like, like, man, we've given We've been given
Speaker 1: this day. So look at what is in front of you,
Speaker 1: the opportunities in front of you, the things that you
Speaker 1: know God's stirring in your heart, like, and is there
Speaker 1: an opportunity towards that. Is there a way for you
Speaker 1: to like, you know, refine your craft of whatever it is,
Speaker 1: and then does that open some opportunity. I don't think
Speaker 1: it's like a line in the sand. You gotta do this,
Speaker 1: you gotta do this, you know, Granger said before, like
Speaker 1: we we met in Nashville and we were both pursuing
Speaker 1: a career in music. His obviously did okay, But you know,
Speaker 1: God had a different path for me, and I had
Speaker 1: my hands up. I wasn't trying to control it. I
Speaker 1: did it for a while, but it taught me so
Speaker 1: many things. And it was finally once I kind of
Speaker 1: let go of trying to control my own career, my
Speaker 1: own destiny, and I just said God, what do you
Speaker 1: got for me? And it wasn't like automatically I became,
Speaker 1: you know, the CEO of this company. It was tell
Speaker 1: them it was how you became the CEO of this company? Well,
Speaker 1: to finish the thought, it was a lot. It was
Speaker 1: a lot of just day in, day out, just grind
Speaker 1: and like a lot of stillness and like, God, is
Speaker 1: this is this where I need to be? Is this
Speaker 1: where I need to be? Is this where I need
Speaker 1: to be? Over and over and over? But I feel like,
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're asking how I got to that position,
Speaker 1: it really was just that it was it was just
Speaker 1: the day on the daily, you know, just coming to
Speaker 1: the solitude and the quiet and just affirming that this
Speaker 1: path that I'm on, I'm still on this, okay. Because
Speaker 1: if I'm still on this and the door is still open,
Speaker 1: I am going at it with everything that I can.
Speaker 1: And eventually, you know, the you know, I just started
Speaker 1: opening more doors and has even taken me to like
Speaker 1: from where I started taking me to like a different place.
Speaker 1: I never thought that I would be doing the work
Speaker 1: that I do now, but I can't imagine doing anything else.
Speaker 1: And so I think you just I know that you
Speaker 1: said you're a junior in college. Man, you have a
Speaker 1: whole life in front of you and a whole, like
Speaker 1: huge world of opportunities and people that are going to
Speaker 1: come in your path, and my advice would just kind
Speaker 1: of be hold it all with, you know, with open hands,
Speaker 1: and just get after whatever opportunity is in front of
Speaker 1: you that you really feel that nudge towards. You say,
Speaker 1: I'm a junior college studying business economics, wanted to do
Speaker 1: something in the field of marketing or market research, and
Speaker 1: both of these really excite me. However, what truly excites me,
Speaker 1: or so you say, truly really interests me. But however,
Speaker 1: what truly excites me is fishing in a conservation. What
Speaker 1: if I told you right now in this podcast, straight up, Ben,
Speaker 1: how about you don't choose? You take both? Great? How
Speaker 1: about you do both? Ye do both. It's not like
Speaker 1: you hate. You didn't say I just hate market research.
Speaker 1: You actually said that really interests me. What if you
Speaker 1: do that and then every weekend you fish and in
Speaker 1: practice conservation that is this is something. What if you
Speaker 1: become like a marketing research for dude, that that's it?
Speaker 1: I would I I'm not I'm not on this podcast.
Speaker 1: I usually kind of leave it pretty open ended. But
Speaker 1: I think your question right now, Bernie's right saying that
Speaker 1: this could change tomorrow. But right Now, if you're having
Speaker 1: to pick a career path for electives or college classes
Speaker 1: or whatever, just stick with this business economics thing. It
Speaker 1: sounds like you're a smart dude. It sounds like you're
Speaker 1: going to do great in this and that, and that's
Speaker 1: the way to get into the ground floor of that
Speaker 1: industry and start making a little money making some content
Speaker 1: tax and then you're you're still fishing. No one's gonna
Speaker 1: say quit fishing. That's never gonna happen. You're gonna be
Speaker 1: able to do that. And then as as your career
Speaker 1: goes on, you'll find how those two things could completely merge,
Speaker 1: like Bernie said, and you could actually start working in
Speaker 1: the field of marketing for a phishing company. What if
Speaker 1: you're marketing for Field and Stream magazine or something that's
Speaker 1: like got that's pivots between conservation and fishing at the
Speaker 1: same time. That's my answer, do both, Ben, do both?
Speaker 1: Do it all. The cool thing is you're not you
Speaker 1: don't have a family yet to have that aspect, like
Speaker 1: we've talked about in earlier questions, where you have to
Speaker 1: feel like you need to provide. This is why it's
Speaker 1: so important to really find out who you are before
Speaker 1: you start a family, in my opinion, really grasp who
Speaker 1: you are and start starting like plowing that field right now,
Speaker 1: so that then you'll you'll have a good headspace where
Speaker 1: you need to be. Awesome question. Yeah, I also will
Speaker 1: you just say how you became CEO of this company?
Speaker 1: But how did you start that? Right? It's crazy? Yeah?
Speaker 1: So I responded to an ad on Craigslist to be
Speaker 1: a helper. Yep, a helper and what like a carpenter's helper.
Speaker 1: How much carp carpenter experience did you have a little
Speaker 1: bit could swing a hammer? Yeah, a little bit. I
Speaker 1: mean I wasn't uh yeah, I wasn't like this old
Speaker 1: house level or anything. I was just I could like
Speaker 1: nail stuff and screw stuff and cut for words. It
Speaker 1: was like they need somebody just to I don't know.
Speaker 1: It was a it was an ad on Craigslist for
Speaker 1: a carpenter's helper. So it's like my expectations were already
Speaker 1: pretty low. I didn't even want to go to the interview.
Speaker 1: It was my wife who said, oh, you're going, You're
Speaker 1: going to the interview. I was like, okay, i'll go.
Speaker 1: I'll go. Just see. I don't know if I want
Speaker 1: to get in construction again. But I got the nudge
Speaker 1: from her and the rest is history. And then slowly,
Speaker 1: over time, you gained favor by the owner of the company.
Speaker 1: At the time, you got more and more responsibility through him,
Speaker 1: more and more leadership opportunities through him. And then when
Speaker 1: he was I'm just I'm telling your own story. But
Speaker 1: when he got to a certain age and didn't want
Speaker 1: to do it anymore, he literally sold you the company.
Speaker 1: The guy that responded to the Craigslist hat for a
Speaker 1: carpenter helper, yep, that's so awesome. And for all these
Speaker 1: career questions out there, sometimes you just got to answer
Speaker 1: the call. You got to answer the call. I got
Speaker 1: to go to the interview. And the other thing that
Speaker 1: I think we've lost a lot of in our culture
Speaker 1: that's very instant gratification, like oh, I gotta get this
Speaker 1: right away. And it's like I've been at this same
Speaker 1: company now thirteen years, and a lot of those years
Speaker 1: were really just day in, day out, grinding framing when
Speaker 1: it's one hundred and five, like digging trenches if it
Speaker 1: needs to be, just doing whatever needed to be done.
Speaker 1: I think back to the other fella that was Connor
Speaker 1: maybe if I think, if you just work diligently at
Speaker 1: something the opportunity that's in front of you, and don't
Speaker 1: go chasing waterfalls, all they play. Say, Hey, this is
Speaker 1: what's in front of me. I'm gonna work really hard
Speaker 1: at this, and I'm going to try to build up
Speaker 1: everybody around me. I'm gonna try to make them better.
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, it's like you become the best
Speaker 1: one of those people because you're focused on coming really
Speaker 1: good and then you have the support of all of
Speaker 1: these people. So before the owner came to me, and
Speaker 1: before I started that relationship to the former owner, I
Speaker 1: had to gain the respect of the guys next to me,
Speaker 1: and you know, like uh, which wasn't easy. It just
Speaker 1: took time because I mean you come in and start
Speaker 1: at the bottom, and it's like, you know, hey, go
Speaker 1: sweep the you know, go sweep over there, go pick
Speaker 1: that up and sign it. Okay, okay, and you sweep
Speaker 1: it better than anyone ever could sweep it. That's right.
Speaker 1: That's awesome, man. I'd love that story so much. It's
Speaker 1: such a testament for all these career questions that we get. Dude,
Speaker 1: out of time, you freaking rock dude. Good stuff. So fun, man,
Speaker 1: so fun. Thank you guys. If you don't have Bernie back, comment,
Speaker 1: bring Bernie back. That's what you did last time. So
Speaker 1: love you guys. Thanks for joining me on the Grangersmith Podcast.
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