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Speaker 1: my name's Chad. I live in Morganton, North Carolina. Shout

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Speaker 1: out to NC says I have a cheap, thirty dollars drone.

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking about getting a better one. I've always wondered

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Speaker 1: what type of drone do you use for filming? The

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Speaker 1: one that the one I have said it was ten

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Speaker 1: ADP when I ordered it, but turned out that was

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Speaker 1: just clickbait. Thanks for taking your time and connecting with us. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: don't spend thirty dollars on a drone. Don't spend thirty

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Speaker 1: I have a good answer for you, and this is

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Speaker 1: I fly a Dji Mavic Mini. Now there is a

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Speaker 1: but it is phenomenal. I use it for all of

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Speaker 1: ten degrees and one hundred and fifteen degrees in the desert.

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Speaker 1: It's awesome little drone, the Mavic Mini, and I believe

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Speaker 1: they sell now. But I would also encourage you to

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Speaker 1: sure you pick that up. On the latest episode of

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Speaker 1: The Smiths, I did a podcast in a high rise

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Speaker 1: on a seventy rain Is it seventy rainy? Yeah? You know,

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Speaker 1: So I took off from the balcony and I was

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Speaker 1: so nervous because it was so high. I've never taken

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Speaker 1: off from that height. And I went right around the

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Speaker 1: building and as soon as I went around the building,

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Speaker 1: it's still there and it's and it's just hovering, and

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Speaker 1: I was like, well, you know, it's going to run

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Speaker 1: a battery, it's going to fall, and it's going to

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Speaker 1: hit some poor lady in the head and then they're

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Speaker 1: going to sue me. So I panicked and went to

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Speaker 1: the inside of the apartment, went to another window, and

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Speaker 1: it was able to get reception just enough to just

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Speaker 1: get it just to clear I guess building cut off

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Speaker 1: all signal. Yeah, just cleared it a little bit, but

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Speaker 1: I freaked out. That's awesome testament though. Yeah, and once

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Speaker 1: again not sponsored, no money involved. It's the best kind

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Speaker 1: It's just a it's an awesome dround. Don't spend thirty bucks.

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Speaker 1: I don't do this all the time, and I should

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Speaker 1: I used to do it like two minutes sometimes, so

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Speaker 1: I know, if I don't get up with that vibration

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Speaker 1: don't want to deal with that. Yeah, that's right. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: me that last time, and I would love to do that.

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Speaker 1: But how do you have it vibrate on the alarm,

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Speaker 1: but like not on everything because I don't want like

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Speaker 1: it vibrate and whenever text messages or or anything anything disturb. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so the little half moon, Yeah, set that on if

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Speaker 1: six months. The underways, which I guess Army calls deployments,

639
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 1: have gotten much harder since I had my son two

640
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 1: years ago, and I just don't know how to justify

641
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 1: staying in and missing him grow up. I don't want

642
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 1: to miss him growing up, but if I stay in,

643
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,320
Speaker 1: I'll have some sort of financial security for the rest

644
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,839
Speaker 1: of my life. How do I justify one over the other.

645
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 1: I figured you're a good person to ask, since you

646
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 1: go on tour and you have to spend time away

647
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 1: from your family on a regular basis. I love what

648
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 1: you're doing with all the channels, and I'm glad you

649
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 1: finally got into a ford. Have a good one in

650
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 1: ug Ryan Ryan from Washington. Thanks for your service, Ryan, Yeah, yeah,

651
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 1: thanks for your service and great question. Complicated question, and

652
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 1: once again a question that could that a lot of

653
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 1: people could relate to. You don't You don't necessarily have

654
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,320
Speaker 1: to be in the Navy. You could be over the

655
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 1: road trucker that goes on you know, that's out four

656
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 1: days a week and n three. You could be could

657
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 1: be a firefighter, you know, twenty four on and twenty

658
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 1: four off and you're missing every other day, You're completely

659
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 1: missing your family. Obviously, you could be a tour musician.

660
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 1: I feel that although these days, unless I'm going to

661
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 1: the West Coast, I mean, twenty one days is as

662
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 1: long as I've ever been gone on a tour, and

663
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 1: those days were really when I was in the in

664
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,359
Speaker 1: the heat of the struggle. And I don't see those

665
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 1: kind of days anymore because I choose to spend money

666
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 1: on airplane flights, which is a huge, huge privilege of

667
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 1: being able to get some higher paying gigs. Before I

668
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 1: had those gigs, I had no choice but to stay

669
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 1: out on the road. And one of the things I

670
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: quickly invested in when I was able to get higher

671
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: paying gigs is airplane tickets. Don't think twice about it.

672
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 1: I look at the year of income for me and

673
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 1: I'm like, boom, that percentage is going to airplane tickets.

674
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 1: And it sucks at some level because you look at

675
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 1: it and you're like, dude, did you just spend four

676
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,800
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy five dollars on a round trip ticket

677
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 1: to tour and back from tour. Look at all the

678
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 1: stuff you could buy for four hundreds You could buy

679
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 1: it Mattic drone in the insurance. But that's the price

680
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 1: I pay to have an extra twenty four or forty

681
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:57,720
Speaker 1: eight hours at home. So some of my band members

682
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 1: do that. Some of my band members that you know

683
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 1: that will buy a flight that they shouldn't you know, financially,

684
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 1: probably shouldn't be doing. But that's just the investment that

685
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 1: I've seen people make. You Ryan don't have that choice.

686
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 1: You go, you go off, and you you cannot come back.

687
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 1: Six months, six six months, No, he goes. He says,

688
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 1: I go under way every six months. So I don't

689
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 1: know if that's six months gone, six months back. It's

690
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 1: probably what that means. Right. Did he say if he

691
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 1: is married or how old his kids were. No, he

692
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 1: just says it's gotten harder since his son. He had

693
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 1: his son two years ago. Okay, so sounds too. So

694
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's married, and I don't know

695
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 1: if it's more than two years old. Sounds like it

696
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: sounds like your son's two. Yeah. There's a couple of

697
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 1: ways to look at this one. You could look at

698
00:42:56,440 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 1: it the Garth Brooks way. Garth it's funny to even

699
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 1: mention that, But Garth made it public that he was

700
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: going to hit touring as hard as he could until

701
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 1: his daughters. Believe he his daughters became teenagers. As soon

702
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 1: as they became teens, that's when Boom Garwth is retiring.

703
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: Now you see Garth is now back in touring. That's

704
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 1: because his daughters have now they're done with school. So

705
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 1: he made the decision, not saying it's right or wrong,

706
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 1: but he made the decision to be there during the

707
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:32,720
Speaker 1: teenage years of his kids every single day, no touring.

708
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 1: So that's something to think about. Ryan. It's like, Okay,

709
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: your son's two. How much impact can you make on

710
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 1: your two year old right now compared to how much

711
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 1: impact can you make on an eleven year old boy

712
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 1: or ten year old boy? And that's still eight years

713
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 1: from now. So you did you say how much longer?

714
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,280
Speaker 1: He said, you huge hit the halfway point in your career.

715
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 1: You got to the tenure point. So add ten years

716
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 1: to that. Your son's twelve. So one option is you

717
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 1: finish out all your work in the Navy for another

718
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 1: ten years I'm guessing your son's twelve, and then you

719
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 1: retire and take a you know, work from home type

720
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 1: job and you're with your son every single day from

721
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 1: twelve years old on. That's an option. Knowing that if

722
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:33,879
Speaker 1: he's got a good mother, you know, she raises him

723
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 1: to twelve every six months, you're in and out and

724
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,919
Speaker 1: then you really hit it when he's becoming a man.

725
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,399
Speaker 1: Don't know, I don't know if that if that's good

726
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:47,839
Speaker 1: or not. But it's an it's a option. Yeah, it's

727
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:53,800
Speaker 1: a option. Yeah, there there's there's definitely you know again,

728
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,359
Speaker 1: it's it's tough because you know, Ryan, we don't have

729
00:44:56,400 --> 00:45:00,080
Speaker 1: you sitting here to ask you these questions. But I

730
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,479
Speaker 1: would be curious what the dialogue is like with you

731
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 1: or are you married or you have a serious girlfriend,

732
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 1: Like what is the dialogue with Like how does she

733
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 1: feel about you being gone? There's a whole you know,

734
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 1: like what is you know, what what does the world

735
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:20,439
Speaker 1: look like for you if you if you did leave

736
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 1: the navy, what does life look like? There's you know,

737
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 1: is there other opportunities? Is there other things that are

738
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 1: kind of pulling at you that could be you know,

739
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 1: or is this you feel like you're really pulled towards

740
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 1: this and being guided towards this, But there's that that

741
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 1: sacrifice that's being asked of you to like be away

742
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:45,879
Speaker 1: from your son, which is you know, admirable. For sure,

743
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 1: it's a tough spot. I will say this, and I'm

744
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 1: not going to advocate either way, but the idea of

745
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 1: a father being there for for all the moments of

746
00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 1: a son growing up is a relatively new concept in

747
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 1: human history. You know, like in the old days that

748
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 1: you just the mother raised them and the father went

749
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 1: and hunted the meat, yeah, and brought That's just how

750
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:15,359
Speaker 1: it was. So it's kind of a new concept that

751
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: the modern culture has developed where it's like, no father

752
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 1: needs to stay home all the time and be with

753
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 1: the kids. And it's definitely not a bad thing. But

754
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 1: I've also looked at it as a father that works

755
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 1: a lot and it's gone a lot. Actually, Bernie, you

756
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 1: taught me this a long time ago, that it's not

757
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 1: the amount of time you're home, it's the amount of

758
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 1: time that you're present when you are home. So you

759
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:47,799
Speaker 1: could be gone for six months and be and then

760
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 1: comey be home for six months and be more present

761
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:54,439
Speaker 1: than the average father is the entire year that they're

762
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 1: with their kids. They're with their kids every day, and

763
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 1: a lot of guys will work a nine to five.

764
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 1: So then you by the time you commute home and

765
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 1: you're home by six, and you have dinner and the

766
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 1: kids are already it's time for bath and bed. You

767
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 1: got maybe forty five minutes on an average week with

768
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 1: your kid, and are you present during that forty five minutes? Like,

769
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 1: are you with them? Are you distracted because you're still

770
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 1: cleaning up stuff from the day of work? Are you

771
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 1: still are you trying to think about tomorrow? Are you

772
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 1: just trying to unwind and watch the little Netflix and

773
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 1: you don't want to mess with kids right now? This

774
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 1: is this is real. This is a real story that

775
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 1: you could be gone for six months, home for six

776
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,320
Speaker 1: months and still have more interaction with your kids. So

777
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 1: that's that's the way I've justified it. When I'm on

778
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 1: a long tour, I'm like, when I get home, I'm

779
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:53,439
Speaker 1: going to be super present and I'll do it for

780
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:57,800
Speaker 1: you know, all day for several days. Do I really

781
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 1: do that? I try to. I don't. I don't always

782
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 1: do it because I too get distracted and I have

783
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:09,359
Speaker 1: to set things and I had to set obstacles from

784
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 1: me being around my phone or getting stuck on you know,

785
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 1: on the computer, on email or whatever. So I have

786
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 1: to force myself to be present, but I'm so glad

787
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:22,839
Speaker 1: when I do. So I've looked at it to justify this,

788
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 1: is that A. I'm going to be super present when

789
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:28,839
Speaker 1: I when I am home, and B I'm also going

790
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:32,359
Speaker 1: to set an example to my kids that dad. When

791
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 1: I grew up, Dad was he worked really hard, and

792
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 1: he provided for us, and he was passionate about what

793
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 1: he did. For in your case, he served our country

794
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:45,240
Speaker 1: in a submarine, and when he was home, he was awesome.

795
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,319
Speaker 1: He was focused on me, loved me, played with me.

796
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 1: That's pretty awesome. Dad. That's a pretty great resume when

797
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 1: you're when you're sixty years old. And I'm just gonna

798
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:59,319
Speaker 1: throw it out there. Your son's forty years old and

799
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 1: your son goes Man, he's forty years old and he

800
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 1: goes I remember growing up with dad. He was in

801
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 1: a submarine. That is so awesome, he thought. And then

802
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 1: when he came home he was so focused on me

803
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 1: and he loved what he did. And now now he's

804
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 1: set financially. Man, there is nothing wrong with that That

805
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 1: makes up for the time you're on the sub missing

806
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 1: your son. Yeah to me, yeah, no, absolutely I think really,

807
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 1: your son is probably not old enough quite yet, but

808
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 1: maybe at two, like and your wife or you know,

809
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 1: significant other. I think it's just a conversation. Like if

810
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 1: you're communicating like your heart behind why you're going, you know,

811
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 1: back into the Navy, why you're doing this, why you're

812
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 1: doing that. I feel like communication is the biggest breakdown

813
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 1: it comes to these decisions, like we're just not talking

814
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 1: with the people that are influenced and that we're trying

815
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 1: to influence about why we're making the decision. Invite them

816
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 1: into the conversation because then they feel like, you know,

817
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:01,359
Speaker 1: your son could be like you know, yeah, go get him, dad,

818
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 1: Like he could be kind of like on your team

819
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 1: and excited about you going so you can come back

820
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 1: and tell them the stories and because he got to

821
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 1: be a part of it. Yeah, So just the communication

822
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:14,839
Speaker 1: would be like I think a big part of it. Absolutely.

823
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 1: Man if I sided her on this podcast and advocated

824
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 1: for every person that's deployed in some way that they

825
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 1: probably should quit their job to be a stay at

826
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:28,880
Speaker 1: home dad, man, that would be doing a total disservice

827
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 1: to this country. When people say thank you for your service.

828
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:37,359
Speaker 1: Part of that is I hope you don't die. Thanks

829
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 1: for volunteering to maybe die for the good. But another

830
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 1: huge part of that is thank you for your sacrifice

831
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:48,959
Speaker 1: to your own family so that other families could live

832
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 1: a free life. So that's a great point. I think

833
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 1: that gets overlooked, but it's a great point people don't

834
00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 1: necessarily think about, you know, our military, our first responders,

835
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 1: like healthcare workers right now. Like the sacrifice they're not

836
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:09,319
Speaker 1: only sacrifice in their their well being, but also the

837
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 1: time they could be you know, with their families. Yeah,

838
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 1: and Ryan's the perfect example. Man, you're you You're It's like,

839
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:21,840
Speaker 1: it's like the same problem as the last person that

840
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 1: wrote in that you're stuck and you're struggling, except for

841
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 1: you do have the job security and now you're stuck

842
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:32,319
Speaker 1: because you could have financial security but you don't. You

843
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:35,280
Speaker 1: don't have enough time. This is the opposite, exact opposite

844
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 1: of the last question that was stuck with the family

845
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:40,799
Speaker 1: and didn't have the financial security. So this is a

846
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 1: good example about humans are just not going to be content.

847
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 1: You have to really dig deep to find that kind

848
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 1: of contentment. Yeah, but great question. Man. Once again, thanks

849
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 1: for your service and thanks for writing in. I know

850
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 1: you'll make the right decision for you and your family.

851
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 1: All Right, who we go? It says. The subject line

852
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 1: is career search. Here we go? Right, this is the

853
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:12,839
Speaker 1: Granger Smith Career Podcast. I'm out of the job because

854
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 1: of COVID, and so should you be. Let's see. My

855
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:20,280
Speaker 1: name is Ben. I'm from the West side of Michigan.

856
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 1: I'm a huge fan of the podcast. It puts me

857
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 1: in the right headspace to start the week. Thank you, Ben,

858
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 1: I appreciate you joining us on Monday, says My question

859
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 1: is this, how do I discern what the correct career

860
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 1: is for me? I'm a junior in college studying business

861
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:38,320
Speaker 1: slash economics and wanting to do something in the field

862
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 1: of marketing or market research. Both of those careers really

863
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 1: interest me. However, what truly excites me the most is

864
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 1: phishing and conservation. Those jobs are hard to come by

865
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 1: in that industry, and often they make very little money.

866
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:56,839
Speaker 1: Is it wrong of me to pursue a career in

867
00:52:56,880 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 1: marketing to make a little more money, even if it

868
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 1: doesn't excite me as much? It says, I'm trying to

869
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 1: lean on God in this search, but I wish I

870
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:11,319
Speaker 1: could hear from him more clearly, Thanks Ben, don't we

871
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 1: all sometimes? Ben, I want to hear God more clearly

872
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 1: what to do? God? Just write it in the cloud

873
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 1: or something, you know, you send me a text on

874
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:31,759
Speaker 1: that great question, Ben, Yeah, I feel you, Bro. I

875
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 1: think Bernie and I both could both relate to this

876
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 1: in our in our lives. And Bernie is actually a great,

877
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:44,280
Speaker 1: a great person to be sitting here with this question

878
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 1: because you eventually did choose the career over the just

879
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 1: the passion. Yeah, it's a it's a really again. I

880
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 1: know I keep saying this, guys, but it's such a

881
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 1: tough thing to dissect these questions without a dialogue. So

882
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 1: if all you guys want to come here to the

883
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 1: farm and like sit in the audience, then we can.

884
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:13,959
Speaker 1: We can kind of have a dialogue. But we should

885
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:18,360
Speaker 1: that one day a live podcast with the studio audience,

886
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 1: all right, coming soon in a non COVID world, do

887
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:30,760
Speaker 1: you but without that luxury because I don't know necessarily

888
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 1: if if I I think it's really just about like

889
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 1: what's you know, what's your purpose? I think you just

890
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:43,280
Speaker 1: got to you got to figure out what your purpose

891
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 1: in life is. And that's going to be different for everybody.

892
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 1: Based on experience, belief systems, where you are in your journey,

893
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 1: and what things do you value. I mean, you know,

894
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:59,359
Speaker 1: do you value money? Why? You know, what's what's you know,

895
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 1: driving and then just kind of like spend some time

896
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:06,879
Speaker 1: dissecting a lot of these different questions. And I think

897
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 1: once you kind of spend some time just alone writing

898
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 1: questions down and answering them and really digging into it,

899
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 1: I think you could probably look at all of that

900
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 1: and it's going to probably point you towards one way

901
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:24,840
Speaker 1: or another. Yeah, I don't know, it's such a hard

902
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 1: thing because I don't think that a career is something

903
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:30,360
Speaker 1: that we just choose one day, Oh hey, I'm gonna

904
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:33,799
Speaker 1: go do this. I mean, you can decide that in

905
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:38,319
Speaker 1: your mind, but we all know that working out all

906
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 1: the time doesn't necessarily happen, especially being nineteen or twenty

907
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:45,720
Speaker 1: years old that I'm assuming you are a junior in college. Yeah,

908
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:49,279
Speaker 1: I just I think that life is an adventure and

909
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 1: it's a journey, and it's so exciting if you kind

910
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 1: of you're on a roller coaster, put your hands up

911
00:55:56,040 --> 00:56:00,360
Speaker 1: and enjoy it and don't necessarily worry about what money

912
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,360
Speaker 1: you're going to make. Five years from now, or my

913
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 1: I'm going to what my career, long career is going

914
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:07,720
Speaker 1: to be like, like, man, we've given We've been given

915
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:09,840
Speaker 1: this day. So look at what is in front of you,

916
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 1: the opportunities in front of you, the things that you

917
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 1: know God's stirring in your heart, like, and is there

918
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:18,400
Speaker 1: an opportunity towards that. Is there a way for you

919
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 1: to like, you know, refine your craft of whatever it is,

920
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 1: and then does that open some opportunity. I don't think

921
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 1: it's like a line in the sand. You gotta do this,

922
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:33,840
Speaker 1: you gotta do this, you know, Granger said before, like

923
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:37,279
Speaker 1: we we met in Nashville and we were both pursuing

924
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 1: a career in music. His obviously did okay, But you know,

925
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 1: God had a different path for me, and I had

926
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 1: my hands up. I wasn't trying to control it. I

927
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 1: did it for a while, but it taught me so

928
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:54,840
Speaker 1: many things. And it was finally once I kind of

929
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:57,759
Speaker 1: let go of trying to control my own career, my

930
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 1: own destiny, and I just said God, what do you

931
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:04,240
Speaker 1: got for me? And it wasn't like automatically I became,

932
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 1: you know, the CEO of this company. It was tell

933
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:09,799
Speaker 1: them it was how you became the CEO of this company? Well,

934
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:12,319
Speaker 1: to finish the thought, it was a lot. It was

935
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 1: a lot of just day in, day out, just grind

936
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 1: and like a lot of stillness and like, God, is

937
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 1: this is this where I need to be? Is this

938
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 1: where I need to be? Is this where I need

939
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 1: to be? Over and over and over? But I feel like,

940
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're asking how I got to that position,

941
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 1: it really was just that it was it was just

942
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 1: the day on the daily, you know, just coming to

943
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 1: the solitude and the quiet and just affirming that this

944
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 1: path that I'm on, I'm still on this, okay. Because

945
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 1: if I'm still on this and the door is still open,

946
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:46,439
Speaker 1: I am going at it with everything that I can.

947
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 1: And eventually, you know, the you know, I just started

948
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 1: opening more doors and has even taken me to like

949
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 1: from where I started taking me to like a different place.

950
00:57:57,920 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 1: I never thought that I would be doing the work

951
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 1: that I do now, but I can't imagine doing anything else.

952
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 1: And so I think you just I know that you

953
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 1: said you're a junior in college. Man, you have a

954
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 1: whole life in front of you and a whole, like

955
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 1: huge world of opportunities and people that are going to

956
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 1: come in your path, and my advice would just kind

957
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 1: of be hold it all with, you know, with open hands,

958
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 1: and just get after whatever opportunity is in front of

959
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 1: you that you really feel that nudge towards. You say,

960
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 1: I'm a junior college studying business economics, wanted to do

961
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 1: something in the field of marketing or market research, and

962
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 1: both of these really excite me. However, what truly excites me,

963
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 1: or so you say, truly really interests me. But however,

964
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 1: what truly excites me is fishing in a conservation. What

965
00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 1: if I told you right now in this podcast, straight up, Ben,

966
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 1: how about you don't choose? You take both? Great? How

967
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 1: about you do both? Ye do both. It's not like

968
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:12,480
Speaker 1: you hate. You didn't say I just hate market research.

969
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 1: You actually said that really interests me. What if you

970
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 1: do that and then every weekend you fish and in

971
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:22,920
Speaker 1: practice conservation that is this is something. What if you

972
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 1: become like a marketing research for dude, that that's it?

973
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:33,920
Speaker 1: I would I I'm not I'm not on this podcast.

974
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 1: I usually kind of leave it pretty open ended. But

975
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 1: I think your question right now, Bernie's right saying that

976
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 1: this could change tomorrow. But right Now, if you're having

977
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:47,360
Speaker 1: to pick a career path for electives or college classes

978
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:50,440
Speaker 1: or whatever, just stick with this business economics thing. It

979
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 1: sounds like you're a smart dude. It sounds like you're

980
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:54,919
Speaker 1: going to do great in this and that, and that's

981
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 1: the way to get into the ground floor of that

982
00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:59,959
Speaker 1: industry and start making a little money making some content

983
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 1: tax and then you're you're still fishing. No one's gonna

984
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:07,480
Speaker 1: say quit fishing. That's never gonna happen. You're gonna be

985
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 1: able to do that. And then as as your career

986
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:13,920
Speaker 1: goes on, you'll find how those two things could completely merge,

987
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 1: like Bernie said, and you could actually start working in

988
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 1: the field of marketing for a phishing company. What if

989
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:24,720
Speaker 1: you're marketing for Field and Stream magazine or something that's

990
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:27,720
Speaker 1: like got that's pivots between conservation and fishing at the

991
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:31,800
Speaker 1: same time. That's my answer, do both, Ben, do both?

992
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 1: Do it all. The cool thing is you're not you

993
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:40,480
Speaker 1: don't have a family yet to have that aspect, like

994
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:42,480
Speaker 1: we've talked about in earlier questions, where you have to

995
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:45,040
Speaker 1: feel like you need to provide. This is why it's

996
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 1: so important to really find out who you are before

997
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 1: you start a family, in my opinion, really grasp who

998
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 1: you are and start starting like plowing that field right now,

999
01:00:57,160 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 1: so that then you'll you'll have a good headspace where

1000
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:07,240
Speaker 1: you need to be. Awesome question. Yeah, I also will

1001
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:09,760
Speaker 1: you just say how you became CEO of this company?

1002
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 1: But how did you start that? Right? It's crazy? Yeah?

1003
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 1: So I responded to an ad on Craigslist to be

1004
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 1: a helper. Yep, a helper and what like a carpenter's helper.

1005
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 1: How much carp carpenter experience did you have a little

1006
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:32,920
Speaker 1: bit could swing a hammer? Yeah, a little bit. I

1007
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:37,560
Speaker 1: mean I wasn't uh yeah, I wasn't like this old

1008
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:40,680
Speaker 1: house level or anything. I was just I could like

1009
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 1: nail stuff and screw stuff and cut for words. It

1010
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 1: was like they need somebody just to I don't know.

1011
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:49,200
Speaker 1: It was a it was an ad on Craigslist for

1012
01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:52,240
Speaker 1: a carpenter's helper. So it's like my expectations were already

1013
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:54,280
Speaker 1: pretty low. I didn't even want to go to the interview.

1014
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:58,360
Speaker 1: It was my wife who said, oh, you're going, You're

1015
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:00,720
Speaker 1: going to the interview. I was like, okay, i'll go.

1016
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 1: I'll go. Just see. I don't know if I want

1017
01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:06,840
Speaker 1: to get in construction again. But I got the nudge

1018
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:10,160
Speaker 1: from her and the rest is history. And then slowly,

1019
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:16,080
Speaker 1: over time, you gained favor by the owner of the company.

1020
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:20,160
Speaker 1: At the time, you got more and more responsibility through him,

1021
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:25,520
Speaker 1: more and more leadership opportunities through him. And then when

1022
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:28,600
Speaker 1: he was I'm just I'm telling your own story. But

1023
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 1: when he got to a certain age and didn't want

1024
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:34,720
Speaker 1: to do it anymore, he literally sold you the company.

1025
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:38,160
Speaker 1: The guy that responded to the Craigslist hat for a

1026
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:42,920
Speaker 1: carpenter helper, yep, that's so awesome. And for all these

1027
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 1: career questions out there, sometimes you just got to answer

1028
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:49,280
Speaker 1: the call. You got to answer the call. I got

1029
01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 1: to go to the interview. And the other thing that

1030
01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 1: I think we've lost a lot of in our culture

1031
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:59,160
Speaker 1: that's very instant gratification, like oh, I gotta get this

1032
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:02,680
Speaker 1: right away. And it's like I've been at this same

1033
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:07,560
Speaker 1: company now thirteen years, and a lot of those years

1034
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:11,800
Speaker 1: were really just day in, day out, grinding framing when

1035
01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 1: it's one hundred and five, like digging trenches if it

1036
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 1: needs to be, just doing whatever needed to be done.

1037
01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 1: I think back to the other fella that was Connor

1038
01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:31,240
Speaker 1: maybe if I think, if you just work diligently at

1039
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:33,919
Speaker 1: something the opportunity that's in front of you, and don't

1040
01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 1: go chasing waterfalls, all they play. Say, Hey, this is

1041
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:37,880
Speaker 1: what's in front of me. I'm gonna work really hard

1042
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:40,400
Speaker 1: at this, and I'm going to try to build up

1043
01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:43,240
Speaker 1: everybody around me. I'm gonna try to make them better.

1044
01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:47,320
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, it's like you become the best

1045
01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:50,479
Speaker 1: one of those people because you're focused on coming really

1046
01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:52,560
Speaker 1: good and then you have the support of all of

1047
01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:55,200
Speaker 1: these people. So before the owner came to me, and

1048
01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:58,400
Speaker 1: before I started that relationship to the former owner, I

1049
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:02,000
Speaker 1: had to gain the respect of the guys next to me,

1050
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:07,520
Speaker 1: and you know, like uh, which wasn't easy. It just

1051
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:10,680
Speaker 1: took time because I mean you come in and start

1052
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:13,120
Speaker 1: at the bottom, and it's like, you know, hey, go

1053
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:16,000
Speaker 1: sweep the you know, go sweep over there, go pick

1054
01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:18,160
Speaker 1: that up and sign it. Okay, okay, and you sweep

1055
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:20,120
Speaker 1: it better than anyone ever could sweep it. That's right.

1056
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:24,200
Speaker 1: That's awesome, man. I'd love that story so much. It's

1057
01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:29,240
Speaker 1: such a testament for all these career questions that we get. Dude,

1058
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:32,760
Speaker 1: out of time, you freaking rock dude. Good stuff. So fun, man,

1059
01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:35,560
Speaker 1: so fun. Thank you guys. If you don't have Bernie back, comment,

1060
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 1: bring Bernie back. That's what you did last time. So

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