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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is the Players Lounge,

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Speaker 1: broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star.

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Speaker 1: Now your hosts Barry Church, Danny McCray, and new He scrugs,

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Speaker 1: all right here we are Players Lounge here on a

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Speaker 1: Tuesday afternoon. Knew, he scrugs, longtime Cowboys? Would he joined

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Speaker 1: by number forty two, buried Church, number forty Danny McCray

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Speaker 1: with the with the day off here, So um, you

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Speaker 1: would be fine if you still play for Jacksonville. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: you rot in here, chrisp went Berry rolling here at

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Speaker 1: thirty seconds. Yeah yeah, n yard dads. But you made it.

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Speaker 1: I made it. You made it. Tom Cofflin got me

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Speaker 1: for about twenty thousand, right there? Is that what he

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Speaker 1: me it was about. I think if you're late to meetings,

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Speaker 1: which is meetings started at nine, but you're not there

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Speaker 1: by eight fifty five, it's gonna run you about five grand.

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Speaker 1: And he's not gonna know if answer butts about it

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Speaker 1: like you're coming out of that money. It's correct. And

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Speaker 1: so so here's my question on explain to just our

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Speaker 1: the folks who check our show out. How does that work?

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Speaker 1: Do you have to write him a check? Do they

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Speaker 1: deduct that from your check? I mean, how does that?

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Speaker 1: But that's just coming straight about the check. Like when

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Speaker 1: you get your your weekly you know, whatever team you're with.

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Speaker 1: You know, some teams go every two weeks. Some teams

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Speaker 1: go every week. The Jacksonville was every week. So if

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Speaker 1: you're late for that meeting, however many times you gotta

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Speaker 1: fine that week, that following Tuesday, you'll get that check

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Speaker 1: and you'll just see deductions minus minus minus minus that

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Speaker 1: you can go talk to him about it, like, hey,

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Speaker 1: what's up with this? But I promise you ten out

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Speaker 1: of ten times Coughlin was gonna hit you with the

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Speaker 1: hey man, it's just just how we do things here,

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Speaker 1: go about your way. So then what did they do

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Speaker 1: with that? And that was the messed up part. So

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Speaker 1: all these fine accumulate over the over the season. I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about at least a couple hundred thousand and fines

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Speaker 1: accumulate over the and magically it all went to the

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Speaker 1: Tom Coughlin fund. Stop it. It went to his like

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Speaker 1: charity charity. Yeah, he has it every year, and it

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Speaker 1: would all just magically go towards that like, and people

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Speaker 1: started to ask. That's why it came up because I

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Speaker 1: was like, where's all this fine money going. They're like, well,

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Speaker 1: we don't know. You know, the next thing we know

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Speaker 1: at the Players, at the Players Championship Golf loutle outing,

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Speaker 1: they have all those funds. This hole brought to you

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Speaker 1: by Barry Church. I'm telling that sponsored at least two

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Speaker 1: or three of those holes. Sponsored at least two or

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Speaker 1: three of them. Okay, so how do rookies figure it out?

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Speaker 1: Because okay, you're fine, You're fine. Then you see it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's a whole different thing when you see

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Speaker 1: it minus from the check. Yeah, So how did rookies

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Speaker 1: deal with it? When they the rookies, they were just

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Speaker 1: I was like, on the least, I make a little

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Speaker 1: you kind of ethos. But as a rookie, you're coming

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Speaker 1: in that week, you might only make you know, fifteen

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Speaker 1: so it's like you ain't he's taking all that out

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Speaker 1: of there, and as a rookie, You're like, man, what

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Speaker 1: in the what am I supposed to do with this?

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Speaker 1: How am I supposed to go about it? But they

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Speaker 1: learned quick. They learned quick. They better be at fifty

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Speaker 1: five fifty Okay, So here Tom Coughlin wasn't even the

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Speaker 1: head coach. That was next thing I was about. That

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Speaker 1: been the heck, this dude was done, he say. He

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Speaker 1: ain't doing too good. He would tap Dug go do that,

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Speaker 1: Go do that. This guy was basically the head coach.

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Speaker 1: I mean he ran pretty much everything practice wise. He

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Speaker 1: would come in. You know how we do morning meetings

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, where's dug Ron at this? I signed

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Speaker 1: to leave. It was crazy. It was crazy. So let's

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Speaker 1: let's dive into the Cowboys. And last night you and

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Speaker 1: I were both here at the four Centers. They held

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Speaker 1: an open practice for the fans. Fans with their opportunity

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Speaker 1: to come in and check out the Cowboys because last

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Speaker 1: year couldn't do that because because of the pandemic. Show

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Speaker 1: fans are out there this year. Uh. These two little

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Speaker 1: and they wanted to see Dak Prescott. So we kind

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Speaker 1: of broke it down to him. He'll be out here,

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Speaker 1: but he's not going to practice fully, but you'll see

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Speaker 1: him make some throws, yea. And before the practice started,

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Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy comes out and says, all right, look, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna be cautious with Dak Prescott. He will not play

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Speaker 1: against Jacksonville in the final preseason game, because Mike McCarthy

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Speaker 1: feels that that's that's basically the scouts game, the kids game.

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Speaker 1: You know, the guy's trying to make the team, young

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Speaker 1: sounds the the hey, he's not playing. Yeah, but you've

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Speaker 1: been in the locker rooms before, you understand the coach

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Speaker 1: speak exactly. Is that what he's saying, he's playing? Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's I mean, I'm with you one out a hunter,

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Speaker 1: significant reps after eight months off or whatever, how lover

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Speaker 1: how long it was with that ankle injury. Do you

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Speaker 1: want to see him go out there against Shaq Barrett

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Speaker 1: I don't but that injury, it's just not worth risking

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Speaker 1: not so sure I want him being that rusty going

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Speaker 1: out there against that type of defense. All right, Barry

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Speaker 1: Church right here on the Players Last brought to you

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Speaker 1: by Hotels dot Com, I will play Devil's advocate. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's see what you got. You're Mike McCarthy, You roll

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Speaker 1: out DAC for a series and somehow this guy gets hurt.

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Speaker 1: How do you go explain this to Jerry Jones? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's over there. Yeah, he takes a sack, something happen,

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Speaker 1: mean whatever, anything, Yeah, he comes up with a third like, oh, mcgrowing,

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Speaker 1: standpoint of just self preservation. If you're Mike McCarthy, you

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Speaker 1: the Houston team and you don't know. You can't control

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Speaker 1: there you go. Tony Romo Seattle, how dad got hit?

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Speaker 1: Did to play? This is true? This is didn't really

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Speaker 1: seem like much. And he said, I'm a good I

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Speaker 1: was there asking Tony the questions with the other men.

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Speaker 1: be a lie. So what what happened for Jason Garrett?

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Speaker 1: There were people questioning him. I didn't question Jason Garrett

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Speaker 1: about that because you know what, Tony needed to play. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he played. This is what happened. So when I look

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Speaker 1: that he most likely won't play against Houston. And Stephen

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Speaker 1: Thursday night football against the world champion Tampa Bay Buccaneers,

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Speaker 1: which comes back into something that you and I spoke

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Speaker 1: about along with our other colleague Danny mccraige. There needs

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about down the throats. He's looked great in him.

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Speaker 1: I think we need to feed this man the rock.

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Speaker 1: that was the formula we were running the rock, preserving

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Speaker 1: Here's why you throw it out because it's a different

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Speaker 1: to adopt what Jason Garrett was doing here. I don't

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Speaker 1: see that happening. Kellen wore as well. I don't see

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Speaker 1: we've seen them really put together some nice screen passes

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Speaker 1: here at these training camp practices, But figure out a

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Speaker 1: way to get him touches, you know, more so than carries.

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Speaker 1: My word I'm gonna use with Zeke Ellis touches. How

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Speaker 1: many touches can you get this guy? I don't care

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Speaker 1: if you just throw them a pass, swing pass right

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Speaker 1: out of the backfield, or you do it screens. What

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Speaker 1: just get this man touches? And add Tony Pollard in

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Speaker 1: my immediate thought process is you got to figure out

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Speaker 1: how to win the line of scrimmage with your offensive

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Speaker 1: line and run this football. And oh, by the way,

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Speaker 1: keep Tom Brady and that offense off the field, because

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Speaker 1: But we need something because if we go back to

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Speaker 1: But that man is huge. Man. Do you can he

424
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Speaker 1: can he still he can still play well. I asked him,

425
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Speaker 1: he got some wraps when you you what you're going

426
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Speaker 1: down there. I don't know how to speed looks. I

427
00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:22,520
Speaker 1: don't know how to speed looks. But the physical looking Google, Look,

428
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Speaker 1: Gang Google, look getting good gang Google. I wouldn't want

429
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Speaker 1: to see him in the alley. That's all I'm saying.

430
00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,040
Speaker 1: Oh heck no, that's all I'm saying. Oh no, you

431
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Speaker 1: want to make friends with Isaiah says my boy. He's cut,

432
00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:35,760
Speaker 1: he's cut, he looks he's looking good. He's definitely looking good.

433
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Speaker 1: And then did a good job during the broadcast. Believe

434
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Speaker 1: yeah he did him and think it was him Babe

435
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Speaker 1: and Bill. I believe that called the Arizona game. I

436
00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,040
Speaker 1: think they did a great job. Um they fed off

437
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Speaker 1: each other great And I think that's a I think

438
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Speaker 1: he has a calling. He has a calling on his way.

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Speaker 1: So back here on the Players Lounge, brought you by

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Speaker 1: hotels dot Com. Five players need to be cut today?

441
00:21:55,240 --> 00:22:02,120
Speaker 1: Five five five sinkle uh, Brian and can go punter? Yeah,

442
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,520
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, and we got a nice one. I mean,

443
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Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. So so I just think if

444
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Speaker 1: I'm Stephen Joe, I think what's the easiest place to go. Yeah,

445
00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,200
Speaker 1: the punter, he's about it. Okay, so you know you

446
00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,240
Speaker 1: can give you can give this wander these next two

447
00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,520
Speaker 1: games and so get them warmed up ready, right, so

448
00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:24,800
Speaker 1: you can go there. Number forty nine tight end Artavius Lynn. Yeah,

449
00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 1: I would have to say he's on he could be.

450
00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:28,160
Speaker 1: I would have to say he's on his way out.

451
00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,760
Speaker 1: He could be, even though I believe his name is mckewen. Yes,

452
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:35,240
Speaker 1: mwan is dealing with with the high ankle sprain. But yeah,

453
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Speaker 1: I don't Shoultz is in there. But you still got

454
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Speaker 1: you Banks. Yeah, he still got you Banks in there.

455
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Speaker 1: Who was the Michigan kids? So yeah, I think I

456
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Speaker 1: think he's on his way out. I could see Lynn

457
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Speaker 1: being a guy that may not make it. Um this

458
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Speaker 1: cut Brendan Eagles, the Rady three wide receiver, Brandon Smith

459
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Speaker 1: number eighty wide receiver. That's a deep room, I mean

460
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Speaker 1: right now, I mean we know the top somebody got

461
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Speaker 1: top four. You're gonna pull somebody out there. It's just

462
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Speaker 1: gonna be somebody somebody's gonna buy, has got to go

463
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Speaker 1: which and I'll say this too it Barry, you can

464
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Speaker 1: address this if you're in a room like this and

465
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:11,359
Speaker 1: you really see it, it's stacked against you. Basically, it

466
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 1: looks like the last spot will be between Malik Turner

467
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Speaker 1: and send me for wholek the draft pick. Wouldn't you

468
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Speaker 1: want to be cut? Yeah, so you can move on

469
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Speaker 1: if you're if you're Brendan Eagles, yeah, because I mean,

470
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Speaker 1: I would you what you want to do right now?

471
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:23,959
Speaker 1: I mean you're just literally wasting your time right now.

472
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Speaker 1: I mean I could see if they were giving you

473
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Speaker 1: tons of opportunities as far as playing, then you're getting

474
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Speaker 1: your resume out there for all these other thirty one teo.

475
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Speaker 1: But if you're not really playing like that and you're

476
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Speaker 1: just sunk that low on the depth chart, you would

477
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Speaker 1: want to think to yourself, Hey, you know, let me

478
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Speaker 1: go ahead and try myself somewhere else. But as an

479
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,359
Speaker 1: undrafted guy, you have that option after the draft, you

480
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Speaker 1: get to pick where you want to go. So I'm

481
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Speaker 1: not sure why a lot of these undrafted receivers, well

482
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,360
Speaker 1: maybe this was their only option, but well, I wouldn't

483
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Speaker 1: come Dallas. I mean, you're stacked that RESI You're not

484
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Speaker 1: You're not going to crack the lineup. But at the

485
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Speaker 1: top three and I mean, you might, you know, you

486
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Speaker 1: might get a little fourth wide receiver action. But to me,

487
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't have come to the Cowboys knowing that they're

488
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Speaker 1: that stacked at wide receiver being undrafted. Now. I don't

489
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Speaker 1: know if that was their only option is to come here,

490
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Speaker 1: but to me, I don't think it was a good

491
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Speaker 1: option to come here, especially at the wide receivers. It's

492
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Speaker 1: a deep room. You're not gonna crack the lineup. Okay,

493
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Speaker 1: so it's an undrafted pree agent. Tell me what is

494
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 1: the cell? Well, when they get you on the phone

495
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Speaker 1: and they're trying to get tell me, what's the cell

496
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Speaker 1: like to me, the cell was Joe dcmillis, who at

497
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Speaker 1: the time was our special teams coach. Now I got

498
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,359
Speaker 1: calls from other teams. It was their dB coach talking about,

499
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Speaker 1: oh yeah, we need you here, we need you. And

500
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Speaker 1: in my mind, I'm thinking you're lying to me because

501
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Speaker 1: you I know who's on your roster. You don't need

502
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Speaker 1: me there at that safety position. But the Cowboys at

503
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 1: the time, Brett Maxie was a safety coach and he

504
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,120
Speaker 1: didn't even call me. It was Joe d. Camillis who

505
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Speaker 1: called me. It was like, look, man, I loved your tape.

506
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Speaker 1: I think because I played special teams at college. And

507
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 1: he was like, I loved your tape. I think you

508
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Speaker 1: can really contribute to us special teams wise. And then

509
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Speaker 1: I talked to my age and he was like, look, man,

510
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Speaker 1: that's how undrafted dudes make it. You gotta you gotta

511
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,119
Speaker 1: getta put your hard working on a teams. So I

512
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Speaker 1: knew from the jump if this special team's co need

513
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Speaker 1: to call me and was like, hey, I want you

514
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Speaker 1: on my teams. I want I want to give you

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Speaker 1: a shot. And I was like, hey, I gotta go

516
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Speaker 1: here and do what I gotta do. And I was,

517
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Speaker 1: you know dickon Milliss's me and me and McCrae, if

518
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Speaker 1: he was here here to tell you we were his

519
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Speaker 1: best friends. I mean we did anything with him. You know,

520
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,399
Speaker 1: you need punt return, kick return, whatever you need, we

521
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 1: got you. And that's how I ended up making a team.

522
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Speaker 1: And a lot of these undrafted guys need to realize that,

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Speaker 1: you know what, let me let me take my When

524
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:26,959
Speaker 1: I said Artavius Helen, let me take him back. Because

525
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:32,920
Speaker 1: McEwen was on some special teams units, especially the you

526
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Speaker 1: gotta be as a third tight end yeah. So, and

527
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Speaker 1: that's something I'll admit I did not pay attention to

528
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Speaker 1: um because I didn't go back to California. Yea for

529
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,640
Speaker 1: camp who's been filling in for him? That's true. That's

530
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Speaker 1: something we need to look at. It was Sprinkled doing it,

531
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 1: you know, who's been filling in for Sean mckewan at

532
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 1: the third tight end and in that wide receiver room,

533
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 1: Malik Turner was playing that personal protector of the punt team.

534
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 1: And that's the most as special teams coordinator that they'll

535
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Speaker 1: tell you, that's their cat another if they're if you're

536
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 1: a captain of special teams, you're playing personal protector. That's

537
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 1: the most trusted special teams role you can do. And

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00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 1: as Malik Turner was playing that, I think, oh, he's

539
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 1: a lock, he's a lot, he's gonna make it. But

540
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,400
Speaker 1: then he got hurt. So I gotta see if maybe

541
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Speaker 1: Semi for Hoku or one of these other wide receivers

542
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,920
Speaker 1: gonna fill in that role. Yes, and then we'll see

543
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 1: if and then and then they'll may become a lock.

544
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 1: But it just sucks that all those injuries happened in

545
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 1: that Arizona game because those are some promising guys coming

546
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 1: up that ended up taking an injury in that game.

547
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,639
Speaker 1: So the Cowboys must cut down five today. I'm solid

548
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,160
Speaker 1: in my cut. Brian Anger, the punter, Yeah, I think, yeah,

549
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 1: that you can get. I think that's so that's full.

550
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 1: That's money in the bank. Right, So there's four. That's four.

551
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 1: That's there's four guys. You gotta go out here and

552
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 1: and and eventually get done and see how you how

553
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 1: you get to cut down today. Jacksonville Jaguars wave Tim

554
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:51,639
Speaker 1: Tebow number eighty five Tebow. That tape from the preseason

555
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 1: game against Fingles did not help him at all, just

556
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 1: did not help. He just looked very unathletic. I'm trying

557
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,440
Speaker 1: to block it just I mean, just didn't look like

558
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,160
Speaker 1: it fit him naturally. Now we all knew going into

559
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 1: this season that you know, he's not a tight end.

560
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 1: He's not gonna make a team legitimately as a tight end.

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00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 1: I was surprised that he got cut this early. You know,

562
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 1: I thought for sure Urban would keep him around, maybe

563
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 1: to the last cut. After seeing that tape. Yeah, that's true,

564
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,159
Speaker 1: that's true. And that the fact that he wasn't doing

565
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,159
Speaker 1: any interviews, so you couldn't really get that tebow Mania

566
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 1: going and you know, have all that stuff going. So

567
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,119
Speaker 1: I think they played it well. I think they gave

568
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 1: him a shot. He proved that he, you know, wasn't

569
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,239
Speaker 1: good enough to play in this league as a tight end.

570
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 1: So they did right, They did right down because I

571
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 1: guarantee you if he would have made the team, I

572
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 1: think Urban might have lost that locker room because because

573
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 1: Cats would have been did you see the table, how's

574
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 1: this guy on the team? That Cats would have lost

575
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 1: their mind out there. So I think he did the

576
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 1: right thing about releasing them this early. Tim did himself

577
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Speaker 1: no favors because this was a move he was asked

578
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 1: to make but almost ten years ago. But I don't

579
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Speaker 1: want to do it, no time us. And that was

580
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 1: the next thing I was going to point to Logan

581
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 1: Thomas said, Okay, all right, I'll do it. That was

582
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 1: a quarterback in Virginia Tech and now he's a productive

583
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 1: tight end the National Football So you you have to

584
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 1: at some point that Terrelle Pryor exactly made the switch

585
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:20,879
Speaker 1: quarterback who ended up switching. This is not uncommon in

586
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 1: the National Football League, especially for black quarterbacks. Oh yeah,

587
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:26,679
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, look, they would have turned Lamarins

588
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 1: so wide receiver if they could have. So, I mean,

589
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 1: yes's something you got to make an adjustment. Burnam Manuel,

590
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 1: you know it's a quarterback at Rice, and you know

591
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:37,880
Speaker 1: made switch hines Ward. People forget Hinchward quarterback. It's a quarterback.

592
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 1: Was the other one answe random. So, I mean there's

593
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 1: been some success, you know, switching from a quarterback, but

594
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 1: you gotta do it early on. You can't wait till

595
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 1: you in your thirties. You know, right, hey, it's almost

596
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 1: you know, maybe I think I'm gonna do it now. No, No,

597
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 1: you can't do that. No, you can't. You can't do that.

598
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 1: And there's also that learning process that goes with it.

599
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,719
Speaker 1: And so Hattie ain't the switch when when teams were

600
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,959
Speaker 1: asking him to, he would have had a grace period

601
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 1: and a learning courage. The people, Okay, he's trying to

602
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 1: do it, but no, you quit football, you go play baseball,

603
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 1: you're ru on TV, you're doing all these things. And

604
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 1: then when you come back and your former head coach

605
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: at Florida is the head coach giving you the shot.

606
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 1: A lot it rubbed. It rubbed a lot of folks

607
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 1: who do it on the grind on a daily basis

608
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 1: the wrong way, and a lot of people didn't like

609
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 1: the favoritism of it. Yeah, I can understand it because

610
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Speaker 1: if you're looking at it, this is a guy who,

611
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 1: all right, you know, they don't want me to play

612
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: they don't let me to play quarterback, so I'm gonna

613
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 1: go play baseball. All right, I'm not that good at baseball,

614
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm coming back to professional football. How

615
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 1: many guys can say they have that opportunity, like I mean,

616
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 1: once you get once you're done with the league, you're

617
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,479
Speaker 1: literally done. Usually you don't get to just come back

618
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 1: whenever you want to. And he was able to come

619
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 1: back and have that opportunity, So I can understee what.

620
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 1: I cann't see why it rubbed some people wrong because

621
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Speaker 1: there's guys that played tight end their whole career who's

622
00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 1: never had an opportunity to play in the league. So

623
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 1: for him to be able to get that opportunity, I mean,

624
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 1: ain't not a lot of people can do it. I

625
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 1: just saw it as something that you know you should

626
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 1: have done in a while back, and when you didn't

627
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 1: do it, then you hurt, your opportunity hurt. And so

628
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 1: uh didn't see it working. He wasn't playing teams. He

629
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Speaker 1: wasn't playing those special teams. Come on, man, come on, really,

630
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Speaker 1: my man wasn't on the teams. Man, you ain't gonna

631
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Speaker 1: have hi mona kickoff, kickoff, maybe a little personal protector something.

632
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Speaker 1: He ain't doing it. I'm Tim Tebow. Okay. We at

633
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 1: least Irvan went ahead, got him up out of there,

634
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 1: so so yeah, good on him. Yes, uh, the Giants separate.

635
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 1: Least running back Alfred Morris, who was with the Cowboys

636
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 1: for a few years with Jason here and Jason offensive

637
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 1: coordinator up there and New York and Alfred Morris was

638
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 1: the guy if people were looking to when Ezekiel Elliott

639
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 1: was holding out for a contract and last year I

640
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 1: think he I think he played halfway decent last year

641
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 1: and filling in for Sae Kwon Berkley, him and Wayne

642
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 1: Gallman over there, they had a little one two punch. Yeah.

643
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 1: So I so he did, I you know, so so

644
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: he's gotten so this across the league. We're gonna continue

645
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 1: to see names. And Chris Beam is just checking right

646
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 1: now to see if the Cowboys release anybody, if any

647
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 1: if this happens during the show, will bring you some

648
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: of the names here, but I go, I go back

649
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: to what you were saying here. So who's playing special teams?

650
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 1: That's what it comes down to. Who's gonna be out

651
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: there on kickoff? Who's gonna be those cores? But there's

652
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 1: usually between five and seven core special teamers, and that's

653
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 1: what we need to figure out. Who on this roster

654
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: is going to be those core special teamers. I mean,

655
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 1: we know we got one a long snapper, but you know,

656
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 1: other than that, who oh and C J. Goodwin, Who's

657
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 1: Who's who's the special team's demon out there? But other

658
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 1: than that, we gotta figure out who's going to be

659
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 1: these core special teamers and who's going to provide that

660
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: pot for us that we need. All Right, I can't

661
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 1: have you on here and not dive into the safety's

662
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 1: Barry Church. So we see Malik Hooker get out there practice,

663
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: get to picks, get to pick six, and we saw

664
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 1: um a guy, Jayron Curse get beat for a touchdown

665
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: and they had him running with the ones to start

666
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 1: camp here, So how do you see this battle going?

667
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 1: We we got to talk to Demante Kaz asked him, hey,

668
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 1: you know, how do you feel about the competition. You

669
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 1: know what, He's like, I don't have to feel any

670
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 1: kind of way. This is not up to me. I

671
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 1: just had to go out and perform as a hell

672
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 1: of an attitude. So because you can only control what

673
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 1: you can control and the way, and he already sees that, like,

674
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 1: I'm not going to get stressed out about coaches maybe

675
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 1: putting this guy in a little bit more, giving them

676
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 1: a little bit more reps here and there, because at

677
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 1: the end of the day, it is their decision on

678
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 1: who gets on the field. So his mindset is already

679
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 1: in the right way. But no question is without a

680
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 1: He's making it Tad. It's literally a two man race

681
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 1: for that starting free safety job. In my opinion, Um,

682
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 1: Curse I think will end up being maybe one of

683
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 1: those core special team guys like he was up in Detroit. Um.

684
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 1: But as far as the free safety because I think

685
00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: Wilson got that on Lock. I feel like Wilson got

686
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 1: that strong safety spot on Lock. He had a good

687
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 1: end of the season last year, He's had a good

688
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 1: you know, offseason training camp under his belt, so I

689
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 1: think he has that own lock. It comes down to Kate.

690
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 1: In my opinion, it comes down to Kazy and he

691
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 1: and Malik Hooker. As far as who's gonna start for

692
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 1: that free safety job, I mean, both of these guys

693
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 1: went healthy. They can play that job. They can play

694
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 1: the safety role at an elite level. I mean we've

695
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 1: seen Kazy get ten interceptions in one year. Malik Hooker

696
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 1: has always been a ball guy. He just has dealt

697
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 1: with a lot of injuries going forward. But for these

698
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 1: two guys, I think they make the team better. Which

699
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 1: everyone gets the starting opportunity right now. I gotta say

700
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 1: Kazy may have the leg up just because he's been

701
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 1: with the team longer. He has an understanding of what

702
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 1: dan Quinn's defense is and what dan Quinn expects of

703
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 1: that whole safety, So I give him a little bit

704
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 1: of a leg up. But Malik Cooker is a baller man.

705
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 1: He's a baller and he just seems to be around

706
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 1: the ball as we were yesterday. Okay, do you keep

707
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 1: four safeties? Because just from what you're telling me right now,

708
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 1: if I'm looking at the roster here, you got eighteen

709
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 1: defensive backs. You keep four safety Wilson Hooker curse Casey. Yeah,

710
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 1: I think you go at that position and the secondary

711
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 1: as a whole. I think they're gonna go at least

712
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 1: ten or eleven if you add corners in there, so

713
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 1: that gives you six corners. Yeah, I think they're gonna go.

714
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,879
Speaker 1: You gotta go heavy at corners. You gotta go. That's why.

715
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 1: So that's so your force safeties at this point in time,

716
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:25,840
Speaker 1: Wilson curse Kazy Hooker. I think you gotta do it.

717
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 1: I mean, if Kazy and Hooker were making big money,

718
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,359
Speaker 1: then you'd have to decide between the two. But since

719
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 1: they're both on relatively team friendly deals, I think you

720
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 1: can keep both of those guys. It's just the only thing,

721
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 1: the only thing that kind of wears me about that

722
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 1: is is the starter going to always be looking over

723
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 1: his shoulder? Is he always gonna be like, man if

724
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 1: I make one mistake here, Hooker or Kazy has an

725
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 1: opportunity to go ahead and jump in that free safety role,

726
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: and you don't want you don't want your guy back

727
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 1: there filling handicap like man if I make one mistake,

728
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,359
Speaker 1: odds over, I don't know, you kind of want him

729
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 1: to play free with no worries back there. But you know,

730
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, you gotta keep BOTHO

731
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 1: you gotta keep both so so so I'm gonna go

732
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 1: through numbers with you here, I numbers got so we've

733
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 1: got we've got our four safeties. Yeah, now I'm gonna

734
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 1: count off six corners. That's gonna be doing. That's Elvin

735
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 1: Joseph all right, yes, yes, that's a right now. Yeah,

736
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:23,840
Speaker 1: he's second. Yes, Uh, Jordan Lewis, you paid him, you

737
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 1: did what you got four point five guaranteed. You don't

738
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:31,399
Speaker 1: want to eat that. Trayvon Diggs, Yes, that's three. That's

739
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 1: three right there. C J. Goodwin, he got that. And

740
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:36,839
Speaker 1: he's a court special teamers, so you know they're gonna

741
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 1: get us four. That's four. Anthony Brown is his guarantees

742
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,320
Speaker 1: up this year or is it still guaranteed? That's the

743
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 1: only thing that's like kind of wavering me right now

744
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 1: because if he's still guaranteed, you don't want to eat

745
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: that by cutting them. And I think he's guarantee like

746
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 1: five or something like that. Maurice Cannaday a Jerry favorite,

747
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 1: he is, and I will say yes strictly on his

748
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: play that's six. So so based on that six, Oh,

749
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 1: where's right that you ain't putting right in there? Okay?

750
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 1: I said, right, Reggie Robinson's not all he's he's okay.

751
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,439
Speaker 1: So I'm just I'm just right there. So so now

752
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 1: you're talking about and here here is the question. We

753
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 1: counted c J. Goodwin. Do you just kind of put

754
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 1: him in a different category. I think they'll say, okay,

755
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: so so your six is right with Goodwin kind of

756
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 1: being a a exception. Yeah, because that's I mean, that's

757
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 1: how kind of they did kind of Danny that way

758
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 1: when they were making the rosters, like we would keep

759
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 1: all like I think we kept like five safeties, but

760
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 1: we didn't really include Danny as that like fifth safety.

761
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,399
Speaker 1: We gonna have four. But then Danny, because we knew

762
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 1: he was all he's gonna be course special team. He's

763
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 1: gonna be on the team regardless. So we kind of

764
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 1: did it that way. And I think they're gonna do

765
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 1: CJ the same type of way. But it's get interesting

766
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 1: you don't though, So so that's and I think that's

767
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 1: what you have to do. You just kind of have

768
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 1: to all right, position wid it didn't matter whether you

769
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,840
Speaker 1: know it's this, whether he was a linebacker with his

770
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 1: Special Corps, special teams guys a boom, you put him

771
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 1: in that that that that like they do Slater up

772
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 1: there in New England without a doubt. You know he's

773
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 1: a receiver, but we know his value. Okay, So so

774
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,240
Speaker 1: we're gonna put C. J. Goodwin in his own corner.

775
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 1: So our six, our six corners that you and I

776
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 1: have come up with Kelvin Joseph, Jordan Lewis, Trayvon Diggs,

777
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown, Maurice candidate Nation Right, Yeah, I mean I

778
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 1: think that's a solid core right there. I mean you

779
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 1: got three with our four safeties, that's ten that's ten

780
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 1: ms and you got two legitis actually, so so basically

781
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: eleven dbs all together, you do. But my thing is,

782
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 1: do we that outside corner? Are we gonna put We're

783
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 1: gonna put Kelvin Joseph out there? I don't know, because

784
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 1: I you know, you know, don't disrespect, but I don't

785
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 1: like what I've seen from Anthony Brown at the outside corner. Um.

786
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: I think he's a you know, he's a good player.

787
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 1: I think he's more suitable for that nickel role. But

788
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 1: outside I just don't think he and I don't think

789
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 1: he can handle it. So let me simply ask you

790
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 1: this question, who would you be more comfortable throwing out

791
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 1: there against Tom Brady, Evans, Godwin and uh, definitely not right.

792
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 1: I mean he has the length and he's long enough.

793
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: But I want to do right right. We need you to,

794
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 1: you know, you get a little special teams and but

795
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: I'm not putting dig is gonna be on one side.

796
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: I would rather see Jordan Lewis or candidate in the

797
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 1: nickel position because that's what they're more suited for. But

798
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:42,320
Speaker 1: on the outside, if you're not putting out right, I

799
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 1: don't want to see Calvin Joseph out there. I think

800
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 1: he's too young out there right now to be dealing

801
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 1: with you know, Evans or god Went out there, or

802
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: Anthony or Aunt Anthony Brown, Antonio Brown out there. So

803
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 1: if you gotta put Anthony Brown out there, and I

804
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 1: do not like the matchup, those are huge receivers. I

805
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 1: hate the matchup. I hear what you're saying. But when

806
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 1: we just walk down this, Okay, what are the options,

807
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 1: He's the best of the options. Okay, what are the options?

808
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 1: They're not ideal. That's that's jump ball city. I mean,

809
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 1: I'm just looking at it out. They're gonna throw Mike

810
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 1: Evans a bunch of jump balls god Win. I mean

811
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,320
Speaker 1: it's it's it's not a good matchup for us on

812
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,439
Speaker 1: the outside. This is where your safeties are. You don't

813
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,439
Speaker 1: have to be you know, red line. We're gonna kazy,

814
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:27,359
Speaker 1: gonna have to show us that red lineability. He's gonna

815
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 1: kazy and hookers, you know, somebody, somebody, somebody dig up

816
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 1: into the past or unless you say, Digs, you know what,

817
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 1: we think you're that good. We're gonna put you over

818
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:38,360
Speaker 1: here and we're not gonna give you a lot of

819
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: safety help. Then that way you can you know, lean

820
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 1: towards you know the other corners that Nick on the

821
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 1: other corner out there, to help them out, because I

822
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 1: think they'll need more help than the Diggs on that Now. Look,

823
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 1: and this is something that we don't talk about enough

824
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 1: because Ceedee Lamb has gotten so much deserved praise for

825
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 1: how he's played at camp, but Diggs's basically gone up

826
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 1: against him a whole lot during this camp and he

827
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 1: has won some battles. Okay, he has won some battles

828
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: as well. So to me, if you want to find

829
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 1: some comfort, it is your guy has spent his entire

830
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 1: training camp against somebody who is looking as though they're

831
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,399
Speaker 1: going to be a number one receiver in this league. Yeah,

832
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: this is true. This is true. And digs and like

833
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 1: you said, iron sharpens iron. So they're they're going at

834
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 1: it in camp, battling, they're making each other better. So

835
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 1: I'm not to me, I'm not worried about that said now,

836
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 1: And let me say this, man, people forget this all

837
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 1: the time. He's gone up against Lamb. Dude, went up

838
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 1: against Henry Ruggs at Alabama. Yea guy went up against

839
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 1: Jerry Judy at Alabama. Guy went up against Vante Smith

840
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 1: at Alabama. So he's not some guy who's been practicing

841
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,800
Speaker 1: against some subgestus. I mean who he went against the

842
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Speaker 1: first six games last year. He came Mecca, Tyler Lockett,

843
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 1: Julio Jones, Colin Ridley. I mean he's gone again, some

844
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Speaker 1: competition out. So I have a confidence in Diggs and

845
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 1: from what he's been able to do. And oh, by

846
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 1: the way, he gets to hang out with his brother

847
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: and train with his brother, who's telling them who's one

848
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: of the best receivers in the league. So I have

849
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:14,399
Speaker 1: a confidence in Diggs and what he can do. Yeah,

850
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:16,919
Speaker 1: I'm I'm right there with you. And do you think.

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Speaker 1: I mean, in your opinion, do you think he's at

852
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Speaker 1: the level to where we can say days go lock

853
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Speaker 1: up Rochet and everything away from you. I could see

854
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 1: it being an option in the game plan. I could

855
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 1: see it being option. Okay, I can see that as well,

856
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 1: because he look, he's had his ups and downs last year,

857
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Speaker 1: but the guy battled and he fought, and he has

858
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Speaker 1: a short term memory, and that's what you love to

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Speaker 1: have in your corner. Like, he might get beat, but

860
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Speaker 1: he's also gonna make some plays and I can live.

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00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 1: I can live with a guy like that. I can

862
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 1: go in the foxhold with a guy like that. And

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Speaker 1: let's be honest, isn't this the same issue everybody's gonna

864
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Speaker 1: have when they face the Buccaneers without a doubt? I

865
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 1: mean this everybody. He was a defensive coordinators. Okay, well, okay,

866
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 1: who's gonna be I mean that, that's that's everyone. I mean,

867
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Speaker 1: they got three receivers and you're getting Ojhi about to say,

868
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Speaker 1: we didn't even talk about their core Darkowski, oj Howard.

869
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Speaker 1: I mean, so, so there's a whole lot of you know,

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Speaker 1: it's it's a lot of stuff going on out there

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Speaker 1: for any defensive coordinator Trump, where do we go and

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Speaker 1: what is my what kind of personnel do I have

873
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Speaker 1: to match up against these guys? I'm not gonna lie

874
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Speaker 1: to know you. I would love to see that package

875
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Speaker 1: that we trotted out, the first team defense that we

876
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 1: trotted out in Arizona. I would love to see what

877
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 1: that package could do, because they had I think they

878
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 1: went and got jian Nard Bernard or whatever his name

879
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: is from Cincinnat. They went and got him. And you

880
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Speaker 1: know how Tom Brady is with receiving backs. He loves that,

881
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 1: So I would love to see what they did. They

882
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 1: had Parsons and Kean O'Neil out there, two guys who

883
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884
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 1: I would love to see them try that needed out

885
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 1: there as far as a linebacker rather than LV and

886
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Speaker 1: um Jay, because we've seen the liabilities that can be

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Speaker 1: in coverage. So I would like to them see that,

888
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,440
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889
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 1: we'll see, We'll see what happens. Game one. Well, let's

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Speaker 1: for me the Brian Anger not getting cut. He says,

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Speaker 1: bones Fossil likes himself. Yeah and uh yeah, that's that's

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Speaker 1: and from the from the conference, he you know, Fossil says,

948
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Speaker 1: that's not what you want to hear if you're a

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Speaker 1: nice Wonder. But if you're angry, hey, he might be

954
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Speaker 1: in that team. As they say, look, now we only

955
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Speaker 1: We still got to find the other two. Now, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Bones is uh, Bones is interesting. Bones got the juice.

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Speaker 1: Bones is interesting. He got the power. He's interesting. This

959
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:05,839
Speaker 1: whole field goal kicking thing that's been going on, Chris Beam,

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Speaker 1: Am I wrong that that? You know that? This field

961
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 1: goal it's it's been interesting and and Chris and I

962
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 1: have seen a lot of field goal deals with the Cowboys.

963
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 1: I remember that vander Jack deal. That was if he

964
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Speaker 1: and then when they tried to do the Dave Bheler

965
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Speaker 1: deal for a while, that was cat off specialist. Yeah,

966
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Speaker 1: it was special. Yeah, he was Deeler was that he

967
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Speaker 1: was a kickoff special Your boy Dick Camillas ended up

968
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00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 1: you know, you know it. Just so I've seen this

971
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 1: kicker thing through the years. And then of course that

972
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:46,399
Speaker 1: that uh, that stuff with the last cat um Mama Heart.

973
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 1: But yeah, man, that Chicago game where he was out

974
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 1: there shanking stuff left and right about he was he doing?

975
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Speaker 1: Just find him shank that as soon as that was.

976
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 1: I mean, I wasn't asking a question like, you know, dud, dude, dude,

977
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 1: you're killing the teams. But so I've seen some stuff.

978
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 1: So Fossils like, hey, man, Zerlines, our guy. You know

979
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 1: he's gonna be good to go. So they're gonna act

980
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:11,879
Speaker 1: like field goals don't exist. Field goals. We ain't faking

981
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 1: puns and doing nothing that we as long a we

982
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,799
Speaker 1: are doing that no more, I'll be this wander made

983
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,320
Speaker 1: some field goals against season, so we'll see. I'm just saying,

984
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Speaker 1: you know, just just I'm not I don't get all

985
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986
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987
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Speaker 1: just gonna you know what, cut you know, you'll cut

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Speaker 1: bring in your boy Jake Mcwait so, mister Snapp, I said, Man,

991
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 1: I'm just you know, you're the professional. That's what he

992
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 1: kind of hitting with. But I just you know, I

993
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:56,359
Speaker 1: don't be the cause of a loss. Special teams better

994
00:48:56,480 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 1: not be the issue Thursday September eight against or nice

995
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Speaker 1: it better not be You're they better be tight. If

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Speaker 1: it's like that New England game. Remember that New England

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Speaker 1: game a couple of years back. Special teams really cost man,

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Speaker 1: it was it lost the game, It lost the gamest

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Speaker 1: the game. So that's what I'm saying, man at this

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Speaker 1: point time, Alright, bones, you have an idea what it

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Speaker 1: is you want to do. You got your mojo special

1003
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Speaker 1: teams moments. Fine, I'm with them, you know, with them? Okay,

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00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 1: gonna let it back fire. Just be right, yeah, better

1005
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 1: be right, be right, Okay, just be right, okay, because

1006
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 1: right now I'm just siding I'm not comfortable. But okay, okay,

1007
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:42,959
Speaker 1: let's see what he gat. Snap. Better be good kicking

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Speaker 1: hen make feel go. I mean, I need. Okay, make

1009
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Speaker 1: sure that that uh, make sure that line is going good.

1010
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:51,839
Speaker 1: That snaps to the kicker, snaps a holder the kick,

1011
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 1: it better be good. Who is the turk now that

1012
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 1: Bruce Mays is gone? Who's the guy that comes and

1013
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 1: get a reaper? Right? Who comes and gets the players?

1014
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:03,759
Speaker 1: Who's coming to get the five guys today? When they cut?

1015
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I know they had Adam doing it

1016
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 1: for a while. He's a shorter ball gentleman. I think

1017
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 1: he was doing a contract and stuff, but he also

1018
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 1: did the cutting for a while. But Bruce Mays was

1019
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:18,839
Speaker 1: the ultimate grim reaper as far as you didn't want

1020
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Speaker 1: to even make eye contact with this man, like coming

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Speaker 1: into the coming into the Valley ranch back in those days.

1022
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Speaker 1: You even on the non cut day, you don't even

1023
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Speaker 1: want to look at Bruce Man. He would say hi.

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Speaker 1: You keep your head down like he never existed, because

1025
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Speaker 1: if he came and tapped you on that shoulder, just

1026
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Speaker 1: had to tap had ready. Just so let me just

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1028
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Speaker 1: So there's there's one perce. So everyone knows who that

1030
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Speaker 1: dude is and Bruce May's. He looked like the grim Reaper. Yeah,

1031
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Speaker 1: Bruce looked like bad news. He was guy in the Nightmare.

1032
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:05,240
Speaker 1: Never smiled. Just hey, that shoulder tap. I remember walking

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Speaker 1: in my rookie year to cut year or cut cut

1034
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 1: day where we got down to fifty three, me, Danny

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Speaker 1: and our boy lan Ye Miller walking in the valley ranch.

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Speaker 1: We got our heads low. Please don't say nothing to

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00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 1: it's Bruce May's waiting at the door, waiting at the door.

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00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 1: We're seeing cats getting hit before we even walked in.

1039
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Speaker 1: We're like, oh, here we go, Here we go. Man,

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Speaker 1: I'm the first one to pass through. Good morning, turn up,

1041
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 1: just hitting with it and kept going about my way.

1042
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Speaker 1: All right, I'm straight. The same thing with d mac Man.

1043
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Speaker 1: Our boy lan Ye tried to follow right behind us.

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Speaker 1: All you all you heard at the tap at that

1045
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1046
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Speaker 1: then me and Danny turned around like just kept moving man,

1047
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 1: like I see. You have to practice hard knocks nowadays. Man.

1048
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 1: It's it's all like they give him a call in

1049
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 1: the building. Many coming upstairs visually just gonna send you

1050
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 1: a tech X. Now bring that appad and looking at

1051
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 1: on Twitter? Would you rather have the text cut or

1052
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 1: the tap on the shoulder Bruce May's cut? I don't know,

1053
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 1: so they just in the building. Yeah, deactivate your iPad.

1054
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 1: I wonder if I wonder if someone never showed up

1055
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 1: into coaching just see you it just never showed up,

1056
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:32,839
Speaker 1: like I not working yet. Sorry I'm laughing, but I'm

1057
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:35,400
Speaker 1: telling you it's definitely to be. If you get that

1058
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 1: tap on your shoulder, man, your heart drops, it's gotta

1059
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 1: be so so the guy I would think, now, who

1060
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 1: could fit the role perfect as Cable? Cable? You have

1061
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 1: to beat Cable. Have yet to meet Cable? Okay, I'll

1062
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 1: show you. You know who he is? You know who

1063
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 1: Cable is? Cable or Todd William seemed like the kind

1064
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 1: of guys I would go. Tod Wins for sure. I

1065
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:55,240
Speaker 1: think he would be. Now, he'd be a good grim reaper.

1066
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 1: Now Cable would work. When I go and show you, like,

1067
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 1: oh that's Cable, Um, you'll know exactly actually who he

1068
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 1: is because he's around all the time. Because like Bruce

1069
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:07,360
Speaker 1: makes he said, he's in all these areas with the player. Okay,

1070
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 1: and so that's what kind of what you need when

1071
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:10,879
Speaker 1: you're when you're when you're trying to play that role,

1072
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 1: or you're getting a guy who can can cut cut

1073
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 1: some folks. Man, um, and Cable fits. He just fits

1074
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 1: the description fits it, man, I mean he is, he's

1075
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 1: you know, he's also a nice dude. Everybody knows him. Um.

1076
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 1: The other day when when Gallimore got hurt, you know,

1077
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 1: Cable's one of the guys's out there, you know, helping

1078
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 1: him get off the field. So boom, that's Cable. Oh okay,

1079
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:35,840
Speaker 1: all right, yeah that's yeah, that's my bad cave with.

1080
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 1: If you're watching the show, I'm sorry because I do

1081
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:40,879
Speaker 1: know you and we definitely chopping up plenty of times.

1082
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Cable. If you're watching, you listen and I'm sorry,

1083
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:47,720
Speaker 1: but I feel like you Bruce Mays was the ultimate

1084
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 1: Grim Reaper because that's Cable. I mean, yeah, I definitely

1085
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 1: know Cable. So Bruce Mays was the ultimate because he

1086
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 1: was never nice to nobody, so he it was like, man,

1087
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 1: no friend, Yeah, he was no friend. This is my job,

1088
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:00,120
Speaker 1: is what I'm here to do. Cable. I mean, he's

1089
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 1: cool with everybody, so I feel like then it'd be

1090
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:04,359
Speaker 1: tougher for him to just go up there and be like, man, look,

1091
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 1: coach needs to see you. Gotta bring your iPad. It's

1092
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 1: that time. Like, that's a tough job. Yes, I bet

1093
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:13,799
Speaker 1: chating out. Who's gonna be? Who you think it's gonna be? CB?

1094
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 1: Do you think it's me? Rob Davis. It's a good one. Yeah,

1095
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 1: head coach, nice friendly brother. Yeah, it's a positive assistant

1096
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 1: head coach. Hey, Hey, the head coach wants to see you. Hey,

1097
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:29,400
Speaker 1: why can I want to chat with you real quick? Kid?

1098
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 1: About your future, about your life, talk to you about

1099
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:33,799
Speaker 1: your life. So it's gotta be a tough thing to do. Yes,

1100
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 1: ending a dream, it's gotta bee, it's gotta do some

1101
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 1: of the toughest things to do. And Rob played in

1102
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:41,399
Speaker 1: the league too, right, kind of have an understanding about

1103
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 1: how it works. So let me dive into the linebacker situation.

1104
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 1: Let's Jayla Smith was trending on Twitter yesterday and not

1105
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 1: in a good direction. Greg Rosenthal tweeted out, no team

1106
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 1: has more self scouting errors than the Cowboys. This goes

1107
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 1: back decades, not just giving Jaylo Smith the contract, but

1108
00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 1: guaranteeing it, guaranteeing his money. In March, and I did

1109
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:06,400
Speaker 1: a tweet response, and I just said the Cowboys had

1110
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 1: no clue in late March that they would be that

1111
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:10,800
Speaker 1: they would be able to bring in three linebackers Parsons

1112
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 1: Cox Neil. That would make the linebacker room better. Neil

1113
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 1: answered a lot of questions at camp in Oxnard. And

1114
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:19,319
Speaker 1: you know that I'm gonna delete this too. I'm gonna

1115
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 1: tread it to you. I'm gonna delete it as well, um,

1116
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 1: because I will sit around here and give give too

1117
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 1: much more credence to what he said, which is in March,

1118
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 1: you had two dudes that you had starting. I mean

1119
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:36,839
Speaker 1: the guy led the league. I mean he led your

1120
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 1: team and tackles. They picked up the option because they

1121
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 1: didn't have much else. They had signed that Neil, I

1122
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:47,800
Speaker 1: want to say maybe three days before. But this is

1123
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:49,800
Speaker 1: a guy coming off an injury, and you signed it

1124
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 1: to a one year deal. So it wasn't like you

1125
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 1: sit up here, hey man, we we got this guy.

1126
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 1: We about decided it's a real cash because we believe

1127
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:58,319
Speaker 1: what he could do. You didn't pick up your fifth

1128
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:00,319
Speaker 1: year option on Laton vanderst And that wasn't just something

1129
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 1: they all of a sudden decided to do. They knew

1130
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 1: well in advance where they were going to go. And

1131
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 1: let's be honest, if Denver does what they should have

1132
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 1: done and drafted justin fields, we'd be sitting there with

1133
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:17,239
Speaker 1: Sartain right now, you'd be sitting with Patage ten and

1134
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 1: you would not have Michael Parsons. Oh, by the way,

1135
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 1: you think Denver WI should they take just the field?

1136
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:25,759
Speaker 1: Right about now? Hello? What was I tried to tellcats

1137
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 1: from from from day one? Just tried to tellcat But hey,

1138
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:30,879
Speaker 1: they they didn't want to do it. Listen, they don't

1139
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 1: want to go. They didn't want to go get a

1140
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 1: franchise quarterback. So you end up with him there. You

1141
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 1: didn't know about um. You know, you didn't know that

1142
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 1: jabrelle Cox would be there. Yeah, that's true. So and

1143
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 1: then of course you didn't know how they would react

1144
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 1: at camp, go through k You didn't know these things.

1145
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 1: So now you're looking at it and people like beating

1146
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 1: up jail. Oh he's he's your fourth linebacker. Cut him

1147
00:56:57,320 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 1: to No, it's a seventeen game season for long one. Okay,

1148
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:02,879
Speaker 1: it's a long s. You're not gonna cut the guy.

1149
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:05,879
Speaker 1: It's at this point in time, it's sunken costs. Yeah,

1150
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 1: So I started business school TCU. So it's one of

1151
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 1: the things we learned in the Manager of the Accounty.

1152
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:12,239
Speaker 1: It's called sunking costs. He's a thing, it's money, it's here,

1153
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 1: You're not getting it back. That's what. Well, you could

1154
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 1: trade him, would you trade him and try to pay

1155
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 1: half of the salary? Pacer? Why trade the guy? He's here.

1156
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 1: He's here. And like you said, this season is long.

1157
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 1: I don't think a lot of people realize that, oh

1158
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 1: it's just one extra game. This season is a long

1159
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 1: and you're gonna be You're gonna deal with injuries. We've

1160
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 1: seen it the past couple of years with the Cowboys.

1161
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 1: People are gonna get hurt. Last year we had a

1162
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 1: slew of injuries. If we had the depth we have now,

1163
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if you would have made

1164
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 1: the playoffs, but we would have been, you know, in

1165
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:42,920
Speaker 1: a better shape than we were last year. So I

1166
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:45,920
Speaker 1: think you have to keep all of them because you

1167
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 1: never know what's gonna happen. If Parsons goes down and

1168
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 1: you're just gonna be stuck with LV Cox and if

1169
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 1: we get rid of Jalen Smith. So I mean, like

1170
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 1: I think they've done a good thing by having all

1171
00:57:57,400 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 1: this depth at the linebacker position. What do we see

1172
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 1: with the offensive line room last year where you you're good?

1173
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:08,439
Speaker 1: Guess what you worked good? Guys kept falling down again

1174
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 1: and again and again. Already we've seen with Nevin Neville Gallimore.

1175
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 1: Okay right here defensive tackle spot. Imagine how who don't

1176
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 1: get that turn your turn your MinC back on here.

1177
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 1: I go back to what what Mike McCarthy had addressed

1178
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:23,479
Speaker 1: in Hard Knocks, and he mentioned, was it seventy seven

1179
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 1: or seventy three guys that he needed that year the

1180
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 1: Packers won the Super Bowl? Even in that Super Bowl

1181
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 1: game or Charles Woodson went out Donald they're running back.

1182
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:34,480
Speaker 1: I mean it had a lot of yes, yes, but

1183
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 1: that was in the Super Bowl game. You have Driver

1184
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 1: and Woodson go down in the game. So it's it's hard.

1185
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:43,480
Speaker 1: Trying to win is hard, and you're going to need

1186
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 1: a lot of bodies along the way. So when I

1187
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 1: just sit up here and I see this in August

1188
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 1: to fans and get rid of him, cut him, no,

1189
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 1: and you're not going to save you No, by the way,

1190
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 1: you're not. You're not going to get any significant savings

1191
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 1: on this because you've already guaranteed the money and getting

1192
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 1: rid of him. What is that? How's that helping us

1193
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 1: right now? Like that's the thing like we're talking about,

1194
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 1: you know, getting rid of them, you know, cutting costs.

1195
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 1: How does that help us win more games by getting

1196
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 1: rid of this guy? I mean he might not be

1197
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 1: our top two lines, he might not be the top

1198
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:14,840
Speaker 1: you know, linebacker that we want him to be, but

1199
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:18,959
Speaker 1: he at least knows the defense and can provide depth

1200
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 1: for this linebacking corp. And and I don't think people

1201
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 1: realize that seventeen game season, you're gonna need depth and

1202
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:27,080
Speaker 1: we got it right now the linebacker position and in

1203
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 1: the secondary. Let me put a maybe a a different

1204
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:38,000
Speaker 1: way to look at for Cowboy fans. What if dan

1205
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:42,600
Speaker 1: Quinn actually puts him in the right positions he needs

1206
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 1: to be that you're not having him play as many

1207
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 1: snaps that he is in certain packages that you can

1208
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:52,920
Speaker 1: actually take advantage of what the player can really give

1209
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 1: you versus Mike Nolan rolling the dude out here playing

1210
00:59:56,800 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 1: will No, he ain't got Vanderesh the middle like no.

1211
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 1: I think that would be a hell of an idea,

1212
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:05,560
Speaker 1: just to get him in certain packages but I certainly

1213
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 1: do not believe that he would go for that, and

1214
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 1: I think it would cause a lot of drama. And

1215
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 1: I think, I mean, it would cause a lot of

1216
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:14,480
Speaker 1: turmoil in that locker room. You know what you do? Heymen,

1217
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 1: hey man, you get a check, right, okay, because it's true,

1218
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 1: you get a check. This is true. Um, you know,

1219
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 1: don't wish you were easier, wish you were better? This

1220
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:25,440
Speaker 1: is true. And what have we consistently seen? This is

1221
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 1: now we're talking with seventeen games, Chris being real quick,

1222
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:31,800
Speaker 1: what is it eight or nine weeks in a row?

1223
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 1: The Cowboys are playing without a break here during the

1224
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:39,040
Speaker 1: regular season. Let me look over and so there you're

1225
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:44,440
Speaker 1: going to need guy. And one of the things, I'm sorry,

1226
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:46,919
Speaker 1: I keep talking about the quarterback chain, your boy, double

1227
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 1: G the quarterback backup quarterback is not on this roster

1228
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 1: and throughout this league. Of a seventeen game season this year,

1229
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 1: you're going to see number two quarterbacks get used. We're

1230
01:00:57,560 --> 01:01:00,720
Speaker 1: already seeing it was sixteen games sketches with four quarterback

1231
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 1: lash four okay four. So if you're talking about teams

1232
01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:07,479
Speaker 1: going through multiple quarterbacks, you think that you're not gonna

1233
01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 1: need more than three linebackers. Guy has that bang each

1234
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:12,120
Speaker 1: and every player. You're gonna need it. There's gonna be

1235
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 1: nicks and bruises here and there. Guys might not miss,

1236
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 1: you know, lengthy stretches of time, but they might miss

1237
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:18,880
Speaker 1: a game or two here, they might miss a couple

1238
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:21,720
Speaker 1: of series within the game. And you're gonna need a

1239
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:24,360
Speaker 1: valuable guy that can go in there. And I'm not

1240
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:26,360
Speaker 1: gonna says he's gonna be in the Pro Ball, he's

1241
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 1: gonna be All Pro. But like I said, he knows

1242
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 1: the defense and he can at least go in there

1243
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 1: and give you some type of substance if even if

1244
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 1: he's not starting and being this all Pro guy, he

1245
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 1: can give you something out there to help this defense. Right,

1246
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 1: he may. You know, I'm not looking for him to

1247
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:42,480
Speaker 1: be the Pro Bowl alternate that he was two years ago.

1248
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:45,280
Speaker 1: I'm not asking for that when I look at Jalen Smith,

1249
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:47,480
Speaker 1: when I'm asking for can the guy contribute to the

1250
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:50,400
Speaker 1: football team. Yes, But I will say this, he needs

1251
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:53,360
Speaker 1: to play better. He definitely needs to play better. Um,

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Speaker 1: I don't and I don't know. It's tough because physically

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Speaker 1: he just doesn't look like he's sidelined. The sideline right now.

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Speaker 1: To me, he looks heavy and he kind of looks

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Speaker 1: like he's running his sand a little bit. He looked

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Speaker 1: like a backup. Yeah, okay, he looks like a third

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Speaker 1: or four and right now, what does he look like

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Speaker 1: he's on pace to be a backup? Especially with that

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Speaker 1: rotation we saw the Arizona that was shocking. We saw yesterday,

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Speaker 1: we saw yesterday. Is that bad? No, No, it's not.

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Speaker 1: Is that probably where he should be? Yes? Yeah? The

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Speaker 1: only thing is is he gonna be? Is he gonna stand?

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Speaker 1: Or is he gonna end up being like, you know,

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Speaker 1: detrimental to the locker room? Like if he if that,

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't know what type of I don't

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Speaker 1: know what the clear idea will be on that. I

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Speaker 1: don't know the clear idea will be on that. But

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Speaker 1: I'm just sitting here to myself just saying, as hey,

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Speaker 1: this is what Parcels would do without a doubt. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna put you where you need to be for

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Speaker 1: what I need from my football team. I remember Scott Shaning,

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Speaker 1: Scott Fuga, these guys couldn't get run here. They ended

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Speaker 1: up being starters on a Saint Super Bowl championship team,

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Speaker 1: Mankay starters, so fit in where you get in. But

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Speaker 1: I'm just not one of these people that says cut

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Speaker 1: this guy at some point in time or seventeen games season,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna need some help, Chris. Did you get the

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Speaker 1: number of how many they're playing in a row here? Eleven? Wow?

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Speaker 1: So so it's your bye week's week seven, six, and

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Speaker 1: then you had to buy and then eleven stripe to

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Speaker 1: finish the season eleven straight. That's that's that's a chunky

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Speaker 1: piece right here. So so you're now okay, and this

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Speaker 1: is this is where not trying to beat up on fans,

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Speaker 1: but sometimes fans don't get it. You're asking rookies. Parses

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Speaker 1: hasn't even played in a year, thank you. You're asking

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Speaker 1: rookies who've never played a seventeen game season. Now you're

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Speaker 1: talking about tell play eleven in a row. You know

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Speaker 1: there's no you know there's no McNee stays on the

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Speaker 1: schedule here man, you know little Sun Belt conferences and

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Speaker 1: are you about to sit up and go playing Patriot

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Speaker 1: League teams. You're gonna get eleven week in a row.

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Speaker 1: So you're asking Parson, You're just thinking Parsons and Cocks

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Speaker 1: you're gonna to be good for seventeen straight weeks, eleven

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Speaker 1: in a row. That's asking a lot. And this guys

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Speaker 1: get hurt, you know. And Barry I tell people this

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Speaker 1: all the time, and he'd be shocked at how many

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Speaker 1: people don't realize. Everybody hurt. Everybody's hurt. At the Bottle

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Speaker 1: end of the season, you told about eleven weeks straight,

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Speaker 1: everybody got some type of ding, some type of bruise.

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Speaker 1: I'm limping here, I'm living there. Everybody's hurt. I mean,

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Speaker 1: nobody's one hundred percent healthy by that time in the season.

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Speaker 1: So you gotta have depth out there, you It's a

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Speaker 1: it's a must. And I like what they've done defensively

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Speaker 1: as far as depth in the in the D line,

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Speaker 1: linebackers and in the secondary. All right, So that's that's

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Speaker 1: why she feeling that. All right, we're four minutes past

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Speaker 1: the hour. Mike McCarthy is slated to talk at ten thirty.

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Speaker 1: He probably looks like he's running a little bit late

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Speaker 1: because if he was on time, Dave and throwing us off.

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Speaker 1: So that is the player's side by you by Hotels

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