1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: Welcome in, Everybody to a in NFL Scouting Combine week 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: Monday night edition from Indianapolis, Indiana, Texas All Access. Welcome in, Everybody. 3 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: It's John Harris alongside Mark Vandermer Mark ware INDI. How 4 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 1: excited are you, well, Johnny, I am. And it's funny 5 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: because I saw the news over the weekend. How for instance, 6 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: Green Bay not sending coaches to the Combine. Of course, 7 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: general managerial and scouting department types are always going to 8 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 1: come to Indie to check out the action and activities. 9 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 1: But it's interesting with Matt Lafleur and friends not coming, 10 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: and it makes me think that this thing is never 11 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 1: going to leave here. And I really hope that's the case. 12 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: I know you feel the same way. They're contracted to 13 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: be an Indie for this year and next year and 14 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:47,639 Speaker 1: we'll take it from there. But I don't know if 15 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: this is going to become one of those tent pole 16 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: events that travels around the country. I'm not so sure 17 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: about that based on things we've talked about over the years. 18 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: So I like it in Indy. I hope it stays 19 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: that way. I've seen a couple of theories, and I 20 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: think one of them has more credibility I think than 21 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: maybe the other one, and I think one and they 22 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:12,479 Speaker 1: kind of built together the fact that the NFL schedule 23 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:16,839 Speaker 1: is now more condensed because you've hadded a seventeenth game, 24 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: which is next week, which puts push the Super Bowl back. 25 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 1: I mean, we just announced coaches on Friday, I mean officially. Now, 26 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: who knows how many how often those guys have been 27 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: in the building prior to But because the schedule is 28 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: that condensed, yeah, a few days that it's that condensed 29 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: that teams are just getting to know one another as 30 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: a coaching staff. So I didn't think there's validited to that. 31 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: The other theory I heard, which I have to chuck 32 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: a little bit, was that teams were afraid that their 33 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: coaches would get poached at the combine, as if that's 34 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: the only place those things happen, it's the only place 35 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: that coaches met up with one another. I don't know. 36 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: I don't buy that theory. Well, I think there's something 37 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: to it in the sense of future connections, right or 38 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 1: connections present that lead to future opportunities, because there's a 39 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 1: lot of hobnobbing and hobnobbing and networking that takes place 40 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 1: at the Combine, as we all know, I mean, there's 41 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: a whole crowd that goes out after hours. And by 42 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: after hours, I mean maybe after dinner. Right, they're not 43 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: a bit late, but they're out there and they're socializing 44 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: and fraternizing and getting to know each other, and agents 45 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: are there, and maybe they want to cut down on 46 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: those networking opportunities. I would doubt that's the case. I 47 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: think you hit on it in your first point, which 48 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 1: is the season is condensed now, the offseason is with 49 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: the extra week of regular season and the postseason being 50 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: pushed back another week, and it just feels very tight, 51 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 1: and they do have work to do. They do have 52 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:50,519 Speaker 1: work to do in terms of evaluating what they've got, 53 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: evaluating future opponents, that kind of thing. Coaches are working 54 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: daily in the building. I've seen them. So if you 55 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: don't send them to the combine, they might be able 56 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: to get more work done. Who knows. But I also 57 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: think the combine is a good experience for the coaches 58 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:08,239 Speaker 1: to see what the players are like that they'll be coaching. 59 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:10,959 Speaker 1: And what do I always say about Gary Kubiak, what 60 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: he told me he likes to see the interaction among 61 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 1: the players. I think even the assistant coaches seeing this 62 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: sort of thing does help to a large degree. And 63 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: we've seen Texans coaches coach these players and drills in 64 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: the past, like Mike Devlin coach and the old Lineman 65 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:25,639 Speaker 1: for instance. A lot of people saw that one on 66 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:29,239 Speaker 1: NFL network. I think that's very helpful to the assistant coaches. Yeah, 67 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 1: I think it is. Here's the other thing too, And look, 68 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: I understand completely it's role in Houston and how valuable 69 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: it is, and I love the fact that it's back 70 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: after being gone in twenty twenty and probably twenty twenty 71 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: one if I remember correctly, And that's the rodeo. It 72 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: is chaotic. It's crazy in the building when the rodeo 73 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: is going on. So if I'm a coach going through that, 74 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: I'm like, look, I'll go to the Combine. Whatever work 75 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:58,559 Speaker 1: I need to do remotely, I will do up in Indianapolis. 76 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: It's two k here just to get away for a week. 77 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: I mean, that's I mean, I listen, I love going 78 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: to the Combine. But the Rodeo cook Off was what Friday, Thursday, 79 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: Friday last week and now it ramps up every single 80 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: night and it's just really, really chaotic in the building, 81 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: and so to get away from that. Oh, by the way, 82 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: the Final four follows that up, so it goes one 83 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: to the next. I think the Final four. All right, 84 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: So the rodeo happens every year. Everybody knows about it. 85 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 1: And Demiko that's one of the great things, one of 86 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: the great things about he being the head coach, having 87 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: been here before, he knows that the rodeo is a thing. 88 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 1: And when Johnny, I want to say this to the listeners. 89 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 1: When Johnny says chaotic, that's a pretty strong word. I mean, 90 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 1: it's not like I'm just saying there's yeah, busy, chaotic 91 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: implies bad. You're right, but it's just frenetic. There's a 92 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: lot of moving parts or pickle all over the place. 93 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 1: You moved out of your own cafeteria. Just things get 94 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: you know, who moved my cheese sort of thing, all right, 95 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: So the rodeo, I want to paint the picture. The 96 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: rodeo takes over the Texans team caf fterium, but the 97 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: team is still in there, right, So they're just eating 98 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:07,479 Speaker 1: different food for a few weeks, and sometimes it's not 99 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: exactly The High Performance Athletic media Lad and Jacob Staff 100 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 1: it's more like, hey, let's have a burger, and I 101 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 1: think this time of year that's okay, but they still 102 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 1: have some healthy options as well. I think they've worked 103 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: together to sort of change that rodeo menu over the years, 104 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: but also to paint this part of the picture when 105 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 1: you're in the building every day, because we have a 106 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: lot of offices here business operations and everything involved with 107 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: that in football operations, and they can still work in 108 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: their offices just fine. All their meeting rooms are available 109 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 1: to them. But one of the interesting things is sound 110 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: check in the afternoon, which is a super cool thing 111 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 1: of being during the rodeo. I remember Bruno Mars. I 112 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: walked out there through the tunnel and I saw Bruno 113 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 1: Mars doing a sound check and they were playing some 114 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 1: different stuff because they do a million sound checks on tour. 115 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 1: They were just like, all right, let's play a tune 116 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:00,799 Speaker 1: by somebody from the seventies. And you know they're heavily 117 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 1: influenced by that anyway. But I love that kind of 118 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 1: thing where you heal the sort of thumping in the 119 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 1: building in the afternoon. Now, it might not be great 120 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: for total concentration for some, but that's just one of 121 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 1: the dynamics of being here, and it's super cool to 122 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: have the rodeo. But I get what you're saying, it's 123 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: not it's not the regular football work environment that we're 124 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 1: used to most of the year, right, And that in 125 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 1: and of itself is chaotic because you know how coaches are. 126 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: They Yeah, they're even more so ad not add but 127 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 1: totally focused in, locked in, hyper focused, if you will, 128 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: and once you kind of throw and you see that 129 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: with me. I mean I'm a former coach. I mean 130 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: you see that with me. I mean somebody sits in 131 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: my chair that shouldn't be. I'm like, wah, you know, 132 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: I start I start to lose my mind. You know 133 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 1: how that goes. Now that all being said as schedule, 134 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna make sure I say this as scheduled because 135 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: things can change. But we are on track to have 136 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:59,359 Speaker 1: general manager Nikis Sarrio on with us tomorrow night and 137 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: head coach Demiko Ryan's on with us first time on 138 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: Texans Radio as the head coach on Wednesday. That's the schedule. Tuesday, Wednesday. 139 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: Nick's gonna meet with the media Tuesday, Demiko's gonna meet 140 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: with him on Wednesday, and we'll have that as it 141 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: as it's scheduled right now. I know I got some 142 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: tweets last week like, hey, where's Demiko? I touch Demko's 143 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: going on? And because the coaching staff was not fully 144 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: official until Friday and we were scheduling that on Wednesday, 145 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: he wanted to push it. And that's fine. It was 146 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: just made made a lot of sense at that point. 147 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: Now he can talk about the coaches, he can talk 148 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: about what's been going on. And so Demiko will join 149 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: us Wednesday. Nick will join us on Tuesday. So that 150 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: is the schedule as of right now. And again it 151 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: can't change. It's combine, it can't change, but just so 152 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: you know, that's where it sits at this point. So 153 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: Marcos getting the combine a little bit. And I'm not 154 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: from a standpoint of I'm gonna ask you to come 155 00:07:57,520 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: in on this guy, and might I ask you coming 156 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: on this guy? But what I want is I want 157 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: to go by in some sense, position and mark our 158 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: level from zero to ten, ten being we are watching 159 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: every single second zero beaning yeah it's not it's on. 160 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: I'm watching F one formula to drive on Netflix by position. Now, 161 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: one thing about the combine this year, if you even 162 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: file out the last how many every years it's always 163 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: been the same. It has been offensive guys go first, 164 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:33,079 Speaker 1: typically aligned and quarterbacks, then running backs, wide receivers, then 165 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: the defensive guys, big guys, and they finished with the 166 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: fast defensive backs. That is completely flipped this year. The 167 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: corners and safeties will jump out the shoot. There'll be 168 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:47,319 Speaker 1: the first ones, then they'll go to the big guys linebackers, 169 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: then they'll move into the offensive guys. Now, part of 170 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:54,319 Speaker 1: that could be the fact that I believe that puts 171 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks workout on a Saturday, which could bring more eyeballs. 172 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:01,959 Speaker 1: There's one quarterback choosing not to throw. We'll get to 173 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: that in a little bit. So as it's flipped either way, 174 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 1: I want to talk about as we see them come 175 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:10,839 Speaker 1: in the building, Mark, I want to hit your level 176 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: of I'm interested or we should be interested in this 177 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: group and this is why. So give it a number 178 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: is zero to ten. Let's start with the best and 179 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: deepest draft class of cornerbacks. Maybe that we've seen, what's 180 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 1: your level of interest from zero to ten? Well as 181 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 1: it pertains as it pertains to Texans needs, how you 182 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:36,199 Speaker 1: see them? Yeah, I as a knee Johnny. I would 183 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: put it somewhere around a five or a six because 184 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: you do have players under contract who can help you here. 185 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 1: And a lot of people would say, look, if you 186 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: improve the pass rush, right and they did get pressure 187 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: on occasion, and they got They had some big pressure 188 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: moments last season, like Blake Cashman sacking Patrick Mahomes in overtime. 189 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: That's a pressure moment. Yeah, but they need more consistency there, 190 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 1: we all agree. And they need health too. I mean, 191 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:07,079 Speaker 1: if Grenard is healthy, if Grenard can play fifteen of 192 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 1: seventeen games, imagine how much better your overall pass rush is. 193 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,119 Speaker 1: But you can't count on that right now. And unfortunately, 194 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: he's in that stage of his career where you're thinking, 195 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: all right, is he gonna be able to stay healthy 196 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: or not. So I would say that when we look 197 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: at the back end, when we look at corners, I'm 198 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:24,839 Speaker 1: gonna put it in the mid range because I think 199 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: they're gonna find a corner, maybe draft a corner, maybe two. 200 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 1: But they'll draft a corner, but not as high as 201 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: you would think. But here's the thing you mentioned, it's 202 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: a deep class. Let's say one of your picks in 203 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 1: the third round comes up and there's somebody that just 204 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: dropped that. And I can't give you a name, but 205 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 1: there's somebody that dropped there was supposed to be a 206 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: first round like at Justin Reid at safety back at 207 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, that type of thing where, oh my gosh, 208 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 1: look this guy's available right here, I think you have 209 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: to take him. Now. Maybe you didn't address an eat earlier. 210 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: And look, we don't know how the draft is gonna 211 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 1: play out to that point, but I can't give it 212 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 1: a number higher than a six right now. I agree 213 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: with you from that standpoint, and I think you laid 214 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: it out perfectly. That's exactly what I would look at. 215 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:04,959 Speaker 1: And I think this is going to be the hard 216 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: part because you're going to be enticed by a lot 217 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 1: of corners because not every team is going to have 218 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: a priority of corner early in his draft. And yet 219 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: there are that many that can go early in this draft. 220 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: And you know, within the top you know seventy, you 221 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: know two picks, which is gonna leave a pick, say 222 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: at seventy three, where you're like, man, I'm looking at 223 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 1: a guy that we have an early second round grade 224 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: on and we're now midway through or close to midway 225 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: through the third round, I mean, boy, okay, and then 226 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: you start asking yourself, okay, can that guy play a 227 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: different position? Can you know? Then you start bringing all 228 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: that in, but you're gonna be enticed by this corner group. 229 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: I'm with you. I think that's the exact number. Mine is. 230 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 1: Mine is right there at six. And that's where you 231 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 1: know that teams do draft based on need. And I 232 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: think Nick admitted this in a certain way because if 233 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: the situation plays out the way you just described yet 234 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: you have a trumman this need over this other area 235 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 1: and there's a player that's kind of right there on 236 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:07,839 Speaker 1: your board, you're gonna take that player, right even though 237 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: somebody tremendous for you, like or ranked higher early second 238 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: round grade is drop into the third round. You got 239 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: to address that need. Look, if you didn't, it didn't 240 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: address it in free agency, that's when you really need 241 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 1: to take a close look, like right there. So a 242 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 1: lot of different things can play out, and to that point, 243 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 1: if there are that many good corners, you probably can 244 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 1: get one fourth, fifth round two that could give you second, 245 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 1: third round value. So you can also just wait, and 246 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: again we've heard Nick say this too. You know it's 247 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: supply demand. I mean, it's simple economics, draft economics, if 248 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: you will. All right, let's go to safety zero ten 249 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 1: level of intrigue, level of excitement thoughts about safeties as 250 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: they head to the combine. Now, it's not as deep 251 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 1: a class as safety, but they're gonna be plenty of 252 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 1: these corners that you could potentially move to safety. But 253 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: just the safety group in general and your thoughts on 254 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: where it sits priority wise for Texans, you're at ten. 255 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: I think this is an eight. Now. It's not an 256 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: eight in terms of we gotta go for this in 257 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:11,719 Speaker 1: round one at pick number twelve, but it's an eight 258 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 1: relative to its own position group, which is usually a 259 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: group where you don't draft a player that high, right, 260 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: Kyle Hamilton out there in the world or something like that, 261 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 1: that changes things for teams. But I think, based on 262 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: Jonathan Owen's situation, of course, you have Petrie, who you're 263 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: very excited about. But I think this is an eight now. 264 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: If I have to rate it against every other position 265 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 1: group or position of need for the Houston Texans, Johnny, 266 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: I might slide that down to a seven point five. 267 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 1: But I'm betting you're kind of with me here. It's 268 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: just that safety is a different kind of position as 269 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 1: it applies to the draft and draft value. Yeah, absolutely, 270 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:51,719 Speaker 1: all right. I agree with you. Linebackers off the ball 271 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: linebackers not edge rusher linebacker types, stack linebackers. You know, 272 00:13:56,720 --> 00:14:00,439 Speaker 1: Christian Harris, Christian Harris, Christian Kirksey. I just put it 273 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: together with Christian Okay, sorry, I don't know why that 274 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 1: just hit me. Christian Kirksey, Christian Harris, play off the ball, 275 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: those kind of guys love will intrigue About linebacker. I'm 276 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: gonna go seven, seven point five here, because I don't 277 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 1: know what Demico thinks of Blake Cashman and he signed 278 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: an extension actually during the season, and Jake Hansen and 279 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: how they fit in. Those are good players, they made 280 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: plays last year. Harris obviously entering year two, fairly high 281 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 1: draft choice. I don't know how he feels about the 282 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: whole group, but I would put it around a seven. 283 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: How about seven. Let's just stick with that your thoughts. 284 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go up a little bit. I'm gonna go eight. 285 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: I The one thing about linebacker, when you think about 286 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: Demiko's run with San Francisco, they didn't put a high 287 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:50,119 Speaker 1: they didn't put a high draft pick on a linebacker. 288 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: Fred Warner was a third rounder, Aziz al Shier was 289 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: a fifth or six rounder, Drake Greenlaw was a six 290 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: round and those guys turned into a first round, second 291 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: round talents playing a linebacker. So I think that you're right, 292 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: number wise, for the Texans, I think they're gonna look 293 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: at linebacker and say, hey, we can we can maximize 294 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: our value a linebacker. We're gonna be okay, whatever whoever 295 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: we get, we get a guy in the fourth, fifth round, 296 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: we'll make him a second or third round type player. 297 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 1: But I do think that position has to play better, 298 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 1: and regardless of Kirksier, Harris, whoever's coming back, that position 299 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: has to play better. Now. Is there a bump from 300 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: Chris Kiffin coming in and being a linebacker's coach. Yes? 301 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 1: Is there a bump from Damiko Ryan's former Texas linebacker 302 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 1: knows the position extremely well being head coach. Yes, But 303 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 1: they still have to improve the talent at that particular position, 304 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: that role in the forty nine ers defense. What we 305 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: saw there was major. I mean it was major. Even 306 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: though they didn't put a high draft profile on it, 307 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: it was of major importance of what those guys were 308 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: asked to do. So I'm gonna make a linebacker in eight. 309 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: All right, let's go to interior defense line. Big dudes, 310 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: your thoughts. You're at ten. I'm gonna put it at 311 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: a nine, good number, maybe even nine point five here, Johnny, 312 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: you gotta get a lot better there. You get some 313 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: good guys. I'm not saying you don't. But what is 314 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: the NFL right now? It's a rotational game. We get 315 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: so hung up and who starts and everything like that, 316 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: where you have guys coming off the bench, so to speak, 317 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: making plays throughout the course of a league year, all 318 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: over the NFL, all over the NFL. You have tremendous 319 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: contributions from people off the edge in particular, but even 320 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 1: in the interior, and those guys need to get spelled. 321 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna put it at nine nine and a 322 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: half right here. You gotta be much better against the 323 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: run and take it from there. Yeah, you're you're dead on. 324 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: And Plus, big guys are always funny. Be guys are 325 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: always funny. They always have good things to say. Always 326 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: like hearing from these guys. And there's there's gonna be 327 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: some beef and some athleticism coming at that big, big 328 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: big spot. Mozzi Smith, mount of Shaka Ka from out 329 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: of Baylor formerly of LSU. Of course, Jalleen Carter. Carter 330 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 1: will not work out at the Combine, but it'll do 331 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 1: all the interviews, both media and team, so we have 332 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:13,640 Speaker 1: that to look forward to as well. All right, I 333 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 1: think edge is the last position. Yeah, defensive ends, outside linebackers, 334 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 1: edge rushers, edge players. Level of interests nine Yeah, I 335 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: gotta I gotta nine here, maybe nine and a half. 336 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: Gotta get better in the past rush. This defense is 337 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: going to be different. There's no Bosa on this team. Demiko. 338 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 1: I'm not saying, oh, he's used all this great talent. Look, 339 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 1: he got a lot out of the talent, like you 340 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 1: just pointed out some guys not drafted that high. He's 341 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 1: coached him at linebacker and then seeing them flourish in 342 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 1: his defense as coordinator there. And it's not just based 343 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 1: on what he's done in San Francisco. He probably is 344 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,119 Speaker 1: a billion ideas about offense that we don't know about. 345 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: But I need more fortification at the edge defense. Let's go. 346 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 1: It's a nine, nine and a half. Yeah, I'm with you. 347 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 1: I think the defensive line is gonna be that day 348 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:05,439 Speaker 1: really to kind of get an earfull from some of 349 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 1: the you know, obviously Jalen Carter, Williams Junior, Tyree Wilson 350 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 1: from Texas Tech. Now, I don't know how much Tyree 351 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:14,479 Speaker 1: Wilson will work out that injury that he suffered at 352 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 1: the end of the twenty twenty two season. We'll see 353 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 1: where that puts him, whether he can work out or not. 354 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 1: But that I think is going to be the most 355 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: interesting day to me. Now offense, well, you're gonna have 356 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 1: to wait for that. We're gonna do that on the 357 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: other side. One is a ten for me, shockingly, But 358 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: what about the rest of the offense. We'll do that 359 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 1: next right here in Texans All Access. Welcome back this 360 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:37,360 Speaker 1: Monday at dation of Texas All Access, John Harris, Mark 361 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 1: Vanimir from Indianapolis, Indiana, getting ready for the day. Louse 362 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 1: should happened on Tuesday. Like I said earlier, nickis Sauri 363 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: will Jonas on Tuesday, Damka Ryan's on Wednesday. That is 364 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 1: as scheduled. If it changes, we will let you know. 365 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 1: We'd like to get both of them on. As we 366 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 1: do every single year, we get manager and head coach 367 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,479 Speaker 1: on from the combine when there is a combine and 368 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 1: when we have both a general manager and head coach. 369 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:05,120 Speaker 1: Luckily we have all three this year and so that's 370 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,399 Speaker 1: gonna make it fun. So we have been going through 371 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 1: the defense priority as it pretends at the comment, how 372 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: interested are we or shouldn't we be in those positions 373 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 1: when they come to combine? Well, it's flipped the defense 374 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 1: going first. Let's we did first segment. Offense is coming 375 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 1: in second, and that means we start with quarterbacks mark 376 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 1: zero to ten. How don't you know if we can 377 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 1: go higher than ten? What's our intrigue level of the 378 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: quarterbacks at the combine? Ten? Yeah? Ten? Well you're talking 379 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: about and I want to be straight with this in 380 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 1: its organizational intrigue right and us as well, But it's 381 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: a ten. Come on, you have the number two pick 382 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:47,879 Speaker 1: in the draft. You need to get better at quarterback. 383 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: I love the Davis Mills post this weekend that he 384 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 1: was getting good at pickleball. He didn't put that up. 385 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:56,679 Speaker 1: His mom did, all right. Mom's on social media and 386 00:19:56,800 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 1: most people can't see this, but I follow his mom, 387 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:05,719 Speaker 1: so that's that, you know, And I really want him 388 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: to get better as well. I mean, how can you 389 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: not want him to get better and continue to approve, 390 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 1: but you have the number two pick of the draft. 391 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 1: We all know what this is. The level of intrigue 392 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: interest is a ten in Indy for quarterbacks. Okay, easy enough? Yeah? Ten? 393 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 1: Ten plus running backs? This gets interesting. I'm gonna go 394 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:30,679 Speaker 1: back to corners, and obviously you gotta have two corners 395 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 1: to play, and you want to have some depth. It's 396 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: really intriguing in cornerback draft. Running back doesn't have well, 397 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:41,880 Speaker 1: it's got a bejan after that. It's got a bunch 398 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: a bunch of running backs. I don't think any of 399 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: our first round talents, but never know. But man, there 400 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 1: is so much depth in this running back class. As 401 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: it goes to combine marks, you're to ten on the 402 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 1: running backs. I'm gonna go five and a half. Oh man, 403 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: all right, look and Locker just drove his car off 404 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 1: into the ditch. I am interested in seeing the running backs. 405 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,719 Speaker 1: But I'm talking about I'm gonna rank this in team 406 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: need intensity, all right, Now, you definitely need help at 407 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: running back. You have to get better at running back 408 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: as a group, and Pierce did get hurt. We have 409 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: to acknowledge that, but you do have Pierce already. You 410 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,199 Speaker 1: have one of the best running backs in the NFL. 411 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 1: All right, a top ten guy. I don't know where 412 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,959 Speaker 1: you want to put them, but you can have pierced 413 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: in your offense and feel very good about them build 414 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: your offense around him. That might be too strong a 415 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: statement anyway. I definitely want running backs, but as far 416 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 1: as all my other needs, Johnny, maybe I should raise 417 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 1: it to a six six and a half as I 418 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: think about this, because I prepared so hard for this segment. 419 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:46,120 Speaker 1: But like you said, they're gonna draft a running back. 420 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 1: I'm a du fond guy. Maybe somebody else as well, 421 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:55,479 Speaker 1: but I also have other positions that have a greater 422 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: need than running back. At this point, I'm not saying 423 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 1: I'm abandoning it. Well said, I get it. I'm with you. 424 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: I think six and half sevens probably probably about right. Oh, 425 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: it's gonna wide receivers again, wide receiver, wide receiver, and 426 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: tight end are interesting always because wide receivers are just 427 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 1: there's this pot pourri of wide receivers. You got your 428 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 1: six four guys, you got your five seven guys, you 429 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 1: got your mid all round guys. You've got short guys 430 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 1: that go deep. You've got short guys that are just 431 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 1: catching run. You got big guys that are slow. You 432 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 1: got big guys that can fly. You got all kinds 433 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 1: of wide receivers, but just overall wide receivers zero to 434 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,919 Speaker 1: ten organizational priority heading to the combine? What do you 435 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 1: think eight point five? This is? Yeah? Maybe Landry's really 436 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: gonna hate this one that I ranked running backs like 437 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 1: two full points plus below wide receivers. But I don't 438 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 1: know what's gonna happen with Brandon Cooks. But I know 439 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:51,679 Speaker 1: what he wanted to happen at the trade deadline. I 440 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 1: do know that that's very public, so I don't know 441 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 1: what's gonna happen there. I know that Nico has gotten 442 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 1: hurt a bunch, and I hate that because I love 443 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 1: Nico and I want to see him flourish. But you've 444 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: got to get better in this group. I mean, you 445 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 1: gotta get a lot better. You have a lot of 446 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 1: talented players right there, a lot of draft capital. I've 447 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: got an eight point five at this position group. We 448 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: gotta go big and wide receiver, and not necessarily size big, 449 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:15,919 Speaker 1: although there are a lot of big guys like you 450 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:20,160 Speaker 1: pointed out, but I have an eight point five your thoughts, Yeah, 451 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: absolutely eight point five or nine, I feel like and 452 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,640 Speaker 1: it's hard having gone to the sidelines for a meet 453 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 1: and micro in the sidelines, I watched Will Fuller when 454 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 1: he was healthy completely change games. And that speed, that 455 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 1: game changing speed that I call it will full or 456 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: fast receivers, there are a few of them in this draft, 457 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 1: and I just want to see. I want this team 458 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 1: speed to improve, and I think that's one of the 459 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 1: things that sort of gets lost when we talk about 460 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:47,959 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers that we talk about versatility and 461 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 1: the type of offense. That team was fast. That team 462 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 1: was quick and fast at every skill position. I mean 463 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 1: they could fly. Kittle could fly, Brandon a you could fly. 464 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 1: Deebo wasn't the fastest dude. His his short area quickness 465 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 1: and toughness was was a premium. And obviously Christian McCaffrey 466 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 1: can absolutely jet one of the fastest running backs in 467 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:11,120 Speaker 1: the league. So this team's gotta get faster, and it's 468 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: gotta get faster to skill positions all right, to move 469 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 1: forward to tight end because it sort of merges with 470 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 1: wide receivers depending on what tight end you're looking for 471 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,400 Speaker 1: you to ten tight end Mark, all right, So tight 472 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: ends with the Houston Texans organization is always a ten, Johnny, 473 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:29,400 Speaker 1: it's ten and a half, it's twelve tight ends, Johnny, 474 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 1: Come on, think about it of Texans history. Is there 475 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:38,199 Speaker 1: any water polo prospect in this draft? No? But but 476 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: there is a skier. There is a skier. Is this skier? 477 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: And he's number thirteen on the Harris one hundred and 478 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 1: he's a super stud. That's your Organs. I don't want 479 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 1: to I don't want to unveil it, but it's smoke 480 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 1: Bus Gray from organ State. Yeah, he's a he was. 481 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: I mean, imagine six foot six, two hundred and fifty 482 00:24:56,080 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 1: five pounds swallowing down hill. By the way, musk, great, 483 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 1: it's time to stop with the shushing. Okay, yeah, you 484 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 1: cannot do that anymore. All right, I'm gonna put tight 485 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 1: end at I'm gonna put it out in mate, because yeah, 486 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 1: that's a good number, a good number. I don't know 487 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 1: where it's going with this offense. I know Aikens fits 488 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 1: into almost any offense. Right, he's not getting any younger. 489 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:25,360 Speaker 1: I did like what I saw from Quatoriano last year, 490 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 1: all right, that was good. That was very encouraging. Great 491 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 1: starting into the lineup Philadelphia on down and he got 492 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 1: hurt again right then I had to come back again. 493 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:37,199 Speaker 1: Ye span seventeen games. It just feels like forever and 494 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 1: these guys go in and out of the lineup. But 495 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 1: that's just football also. But I do believe they'll be 496 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,640 Speaker 1: looking for somebody else in this draft and whatever they 497 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: end up with in free agency and so forth. I'd 498 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 1: love to see a t and finish the year like 499 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 1: he did with that game against the Colts. That was 500 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: That was a great way to finish what have been 501 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,439 Speaker 1: kind of up and down season due to injury. But 502 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 1: I thought I was a really great starter. It was 503 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 1: a great finish. Hopefully they can bring Jordan Nakins back 504 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,120 Speaker 1: on a deal that the team's happy with and he's 505 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,640 Speaker 1: happy with. That would be a great start right there. 506 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 1: Then at that point, you have your options, because this 507 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 1: is a pretty interesting tight end draft. All right, It's 508 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: gonna tackles, because I think this discussion might be quick off. 509 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:15,160 Speaker 1: It's a tackle zero to ten. This is the one 510 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 1: group where I'm gonna put it below a five, and 511 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: it's the only position group on the Texans roster other 512 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 1: than specialists. I'll put it below a five. You know, 513 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 1: if we're doing Chiefs Radio here, quarterback one and a half, right, 514 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: you know you need to replace Chad Henny at backup 515 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 1: and you're not going to do that with a rookie 516 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 1: or maybe you do draft a projects who knows, but 517 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 1: you get my drift here. You have certain teams where 518 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 1: at certain position groups, their level of intrigue and interest 519 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,880 Speaker 1: at the combine is going to be so low they're 520 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: gonna follow everybody though you And here's the other thing 521 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: about evaluating players at the combine. And we'll talk to 522 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 1: Nick about this on Tuesday night. You're storing acorns for 523 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,120 Speaker 1: later for free el. Yeah, we talked to that guy 524 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 1: at the combine, remember him. We really loved him, but 525 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 1: we didn't need him or we draft him or whatever. 526 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: And now he's available to us, and look how his 527 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 1: career has gone. So let's take him now. So I'm 528 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 1: going to put tackle at below a five. I'll say three. Yeah, 529 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 1: I'm with you. I don't want to say if you 530 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 1: go to negative numbers, go to negative numbers. Now, obviously 531 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 1: you have to be prepared for the future. But I 532 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: think you hit it exactly exactly right. You get your 533 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,679 Speaker 1: information and Nick says this a lot, and I'll make 534 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 1: sure I reiterate this because I think sometimes this gets lost. 535 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 1: They study evaluate everybody, doesn't matter whether they have a 536 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: shot at him or not, or going to or on 537 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 1: draft night, the or even thinking about They evaluate everybody. 538 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: And they're going to be evaluating the interior offensive line. 539 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,479 Speaker 1: So you're in a ten mark organizational priority of your thoughts. 540 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:47,679 Speaker 1: This is a nine. This is high obviously, center, and 541 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 1: then I look at guard. Okay, all right, so you 542 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 1: drafted Kenyan Green. AJ Cann played last year. Obviously, Chris 543 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 1: Strosser knows all about aj Canny. He's been in the division, 544 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 1: so he's he understands the work of a J. And 545 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 1: I'm not sure how they feel about him. You know, 546 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,959 Speaker 1: AJ is good signed last year, But where do they 547 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 1: feel like they can get better at guard? How do 548 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 1: they feel like they can get better at guard? You're 549 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,479 Speaker 1: always going to need more offensive lineman. We all know 550 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,880 Speaker 1: that any way, injuries and whatnot. But I think that 551 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 1: that's an interesting spot and obviously center is a very 552 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 1: high level of interest. I don't know if a rookie 553 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,360 Speaker 1: can fill that spot, but we'll see. You know, they've 554 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 1: got all this capital, so they're gonna want to use it. Absolutely. 555 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 1: I think you're you're dead on. I wouldn't be opposed 556 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 1: to spending some cache, putting some green max into the interior, 557 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 1: offensive line and draft priority. I have no issue with that. 558 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 1: For as good as the two tackles were, the interior 559 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,719 Speaker 1: was not that last year across the board, and it 560 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: needs to get better. And if Kenya takes his game 561 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: where we think it can go where it was prior 562 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 1: to his injuries and aj Canna I thought was solid, 563 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 1: and they can find better center play, consistent center play. 564 00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 1: I think an offensive line is going to be right 565 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 1: where Chris Drass wants them to be and where Bobby 566 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: Slok wants them to be. You know, it's interesting. I 567 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 1: gotta say these coaches out loud, Mark because I'm getting 568 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 1: used to I was so used to who the coaches were. 569 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 1: Now I've got to think through so I gotta say 570 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 1: it out loud. Bobby Slok offensive coordinator, offensive line coach, 571 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 1: Chris Strasser, Well, think about it like this, this is 572 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 1: another regime, right and we've got three brand new ones 573 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 1: in the last three years. Some carry over obviously on defense, 574 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 1: especially when Lovey Smith was named head coach last year. 575 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 1: But when you look at three different O line coaches 576 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: in three years, well really four and four years, because 577 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 1: you're going back to the last Bill O'Brien year, that's 578 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:37,479 Speaker 1: a lot of guys for us to get to know. 579 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 1: But it's cool and we'll do it. And I just 580 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,959 Speaker 1: have a feeling this staff, the way they're setting it up. 581 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 1: I've got a more Kubiaki and feeling about this whole thing. 582 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 1: That you lay the foundation here. They're gonna be changes 583 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 1: along the way they're always are, but that they're building 584 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 1: something for a long time here and it's gonna be 585 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 1: fun to watch develop. And in relation to the Combine, 586 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,719 Speaker 1: you know we're talking about tight end. I think this 587 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 1: is a good story for us, show meeting, story meeting Johnny, 588 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 1: story on players, and this is for after the Combine. 589 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 1: Players the Texans have had that never went to the Combine. 590 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 1: Players that actually did good things for the Texans that 591 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:14,959 Speaker 1: didn't go to a Combiny. I don't think it's a 592 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 1: list that that's long, that's that long. Ryan Griffin comes 593 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 1: to mind immediately, was not invited to the Combine, ended 594 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 1: up drafted in the sixth round and had a good career, 595 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, really solid sixth round draft choice. 596 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 1: That's strong, Yeah, very much. So they'll be playing. I 597 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 1: gotta think on that a little bit. I gotta think 598 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 1: on that. There was one that almost did go to 599 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: the Combine. He was the last quarterback taken or selected 600 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 1: to go to the Combine at twenty eleven. How'd that 601 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 1: work out for TJ Yates. So we'll get you on 602 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 1: that a little bit later. One of the quarterbacks at 603 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 1: the Combine that will get a lot of scrutiny is 604 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 1: Will Levis. Start more about Will Levis through the eyes, 605 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 1: ears and mouth of Dpcito next right here on Texans 606 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 1: All Access. We're on the final segment of this edition 607 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 1: of Texans All Access from Indianapolis, Indiana. As the Combine 608 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 1: is here and we are at the Combine, John Harris 609 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 1: getting ready to I don't know what are we gonna 610 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 1: do in any tonight. I don't know. Probably go back 611 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 1: and do a little draft analysis, trying to see who's 612 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 1: on my list of players to study. So I got that, 613 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 1: probably got a bite to eat. But quarterbacks are coming soon, 614 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: and that means Will Levis in Kentucky. One of the 615 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 1: more polarizing prospects in this draft. Keep City caught up 616 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 1: with Vinny Hardy covers the Kentucky Wildcats football program for 617 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 1: the Belief podcast DPE take it Away. Joining me this 618 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 1: week Vinny Hardy, he covers the Wildcats and hosts the 619 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 1: Belief in Kentucky podcast. We're talking Kentucky draft prospects. How's 620 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 1: it going, Vinny. I'm doing good. Glad to be on here. 621 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for having me. I know we don't 622 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 1: really talk about Kentucky draft prospects too often, but there's 623 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,719 Speaker 1: a big one and this year's draft, and big because 624 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 1: he's a quarterback and he's also physically very big. So 625 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 1: let's talk a little Will Lovis. I mean, he transferred 626 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 1: to Kentucky a junior, becomes the starting quarterback, the team captain, 627 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 1: but he'd only played like two games and three years 628 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 1: at Penn State. So take us back to that time 629 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 1: where Levis joins Kentucky and how he just sort of 630 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 1: immediately became the starter. What did they see in him? 631 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 1: What do they like about him? That really solidified that 632 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 1: spot for him? Like Liam Cohen came in from the 633 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 1: Rams as the officeive coordinator and that kind of zero 634 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,719 Speaker 1: to in on him as the guy. Like you mentioned 635 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 1: he had been at Penn State. Contextual actually beat Penn State, 636 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 1: you know, in that Citrus Bowl. Well, Levis was a freshman, 637 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 1: Clifford was there forever and he was, you know, not 638 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 1: ever gonna really beat him out. So he transfers in 639 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 1: kind of behind the eight ball. He didn't play springball, 640 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 1: kind of late, learned on the fly, picked up the system, 641 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 1: earned the job, and just kind of took the reins. 642 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 1: From a leadership standpoint, he was able to display that arm. 643 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 1: He'd been primarily a runner at Penn State. Nobody really 644 00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 1: saw him throw the ball except for a few little 645 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 1: glimpses here and there. The offense kind of clicked. They 646 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 1: had a good offensive line, a good running back, basically 647 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 1: just one receiver one Dale Robinson, who caught a hundred balls. 648 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 1: He's with the Giants now, but they scored a lot 649 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 1: of points. Stoops is always gonna play good defense. They 650 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 1: won ten games, to beat Awa in the bowl game, 651 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 1: and just had a really good year on and off 652 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 1: the field. His personality kind of saw him on TikTok 653 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 1: eating a banana with the peel and all that kind 654 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 1: of put him on the map from the get go. 655 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 1: Then he put mannais in coffee and drunk it, so 656 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 1: he's that you know, so that kind of thing off 657 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 1: the field, and then the way he played on the field. 658 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 1: It was just just really a good combination. I'm definitely 659 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 1: gonna get to some of those personality quirks because I 660 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 1: love stuff like that about draft prospects. But let's talk 661 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 1: about just how he plays. I mean, six four, two thirty, 662 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 1: he's got the size that everybody wants in an NFL quarterback. 663 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 1: What are some of the biggest strengths of his game, 664 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 1: and how has playing in a pro style offense really 665 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 1: helped further develop his skill set. It was great with 666 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 1: Coden coming in from the Rams NFL guy, that's where 667 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 1: he aspires to be. He's gonna check all the boxes. 668 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 1: Like you mentioned, six to four, two thirty, rocket arm. 669 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 1: You know, got franchise quarterback written all over him. Played 670 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 1: for an NFL guy. A lot of people want to 671 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 1: judge year two verses year one. If you look on 672 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,400 Speaker 1: the surface, they have an argument, but there's you know, 673 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:26,439 Speaker 1: layers to know the difference in the numbers. But he's 674 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 1: got all the intangibles, you know, he can. He can run. 675 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,399 Speaker 1: He's not Lamar Jackson, but he's not afraid to run. 676 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:36,399 Speaker 1: If you google to Blaze all Ridge from Missouri, where 677 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,320 Speaker 1: he's not afraid to run, not afraid to contact Google 678 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,720 Speaker 1: that Texans fans will like seeing him lower the shoulder 679 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:46,840 Speaker 1: on a linebacker and win that collision when healthy, which 680 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 1: he was in the first year. That's another difference in 681 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 1: the dropping numbers as well. He can, he can do 682 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,880 Speaker 1: it all. He may hold them to the ball a tad. 683 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:59,879 Speaker 1: Interceptions were a little bit high in year one to me, 684 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 1: those who want to judge him on year two, there 685 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:06,280 Speaker 1: was an offensive coordinator change, Rich Ganguirella comes in from Denver. 686 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 1: Liam Cohen went back to the Rams. You can't blame 687 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 1: him from wanting to go back to the Rams. I 688 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 1: will lean towards what you saw in year one, and 689 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 1: I always wonder what if we had had year two 690 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 1: of Levi's in this Liam Cohen offense, because they had 691 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,400 Speaker 1: more receivers. Like I mentioned, he had one Dall Robinson 692 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 1: was the only receiver. They had. Better receivers coming in, 693 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 1: he could have spread the ball around, had more weapons. 694 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,920 Speaker 1: So we'll never know what could have been if he 695 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,719 Speaker 1: had had year two. Yeah, I was actually going to 696 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 1: ask you about that because of the drop, slight drop 697 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 1: in his numbers, but just his overall performance in year two, 698 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,759 Speaker 1: it seems like he never really found his rhythm as 699 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 1: a passer. A lot of people talked about the inconsistent throws, 700 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,840 Speaker 1: the short throws. Can you blame all of that on 701 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 1: injury and change an offense or is that really something 702 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 1: that NFL teams need to be concerned about when they're 703 00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 1: interviewing him and going through this process. I think if 704 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 1: you and bind at all the coordinator change, it just 705 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 1: didn't fit. They hoped it would be as seamless as possible, 706 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,399 Speaker 1: and it was just kind of square peg round hole 707 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 1: all year. The offensive line it was. It was bad. 708 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 1: You lost Darren Kinnard at right tackle. Who's with the Chiefs? 709 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,359 Speaker 1: Who just want to ring? Luke Fortner played center from 710 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,000 Speaker 1: the jump for Jacksonville. You Texans fans saw him twice 711 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,960 Speaker 1: a year as a rookie on that offensive line. So 712 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 1: the offensive line took a big hit, took a big 713 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:33,440 Speaker 1: step back. Texans fans may remember David Carr's first year 714 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,440 Speaker 1: he got sacked a billion times. That's kind of what 715 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,919 Speaker 1: Levis had going on. He was this. The line couldn't blog, 716 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 1: they couldn't get the running game going. Chris Rodriguez, running back, 717 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,280 Speaker 1: was suspended for a third season, missed the first four games. 718 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,920 Speaker 1: So it was just so many things that just it 719 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 1: was a slog. Nobody ever got on the same page. 720 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 1: There was never a flow of any consistent see for 721 00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,319 Speaker 1: a long time, for any length of time at all, 722 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:04,279 Speaker 1: it was always something, so it didn't fit. He never 723 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 1: had time to throw. He was beat up. He missed 724 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 1: a South Carolina game, shoulder foot, you know this. He 725 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:15,719 Speaker 1: was just beat to death. Offensive line was terrible. They 726 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 1: still won seven games, which at Kentucky you look historically 727 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 1: sometimes will take two or three years to win seven games, 728 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 1: or a down year to still win seven games. In 729 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:29,360 Speaker 1: spite of all that, it worked out as best as 730 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 1: it could, I guess. I mean, there's definitely still talking 731 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 1: about him as a very high draft prospect as far 732 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,880 Speaker 1: as quarterbacks are concerned. I'm contrigued by his personality. You 733 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:39,920 Speaker 1: mentioned a few of the stories that we've heard. I 734 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,279 Speaker 1: even see it on his scouting profiles. Puts mayonnaise and 735 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,440 Speaker 1: his coffee like I guess, these are things that teams 736 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,400 Speaker 1: are out were aware of as just like another footnote 737 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 1: to his list of stats. He also had a four 738 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 1: point GPA, he had offers to Ivy League schools. I mean, 739 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,320 Speaker 1: give us a sense of his personality as something maybe 740 00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 1: that really stands out to you about your time in 741 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 1: covering him. Fiery competitor, financial guy. He's already you know, 742 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 1: doing n il stuff and looking to be you know, 743 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 1: investing and all that kind of stuff looking down the 744 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,920 Speaker 1: road from that standpoint, kind of wise beyond his years 745 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,360 Speaker 1: to be, you know, early twenties from as far as 746 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 1: that goes quirky and fun loving. Like we mentioned with 747 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:24,400 Speaker 1: with the banana just just eating a hole. Uh, you 748 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,480 Speaker 1: had fans at Kroger Field coming in banana suits and 749 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:32,440 Speaker 1: sitting in the stands. You had the sideline reporter, a 750 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,279 Speaker 1: Lista Lang for the SEC Network doing one of her 751 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 1: sideline reports. She's attempting to eat a banana with the 752 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,719 Speaker 1: hole and all the pealing, all because he stirred all 753 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:46,759 Speaker 1: this stuff up. He's gonna get a banana deal. Why 754 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:51,480 Speaker 1: she's gonna the Mayonnai's in the coffee, which was a 755 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,840 Speaker 1: lot of people tried it. It was nasty as you 756 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:57,080 Speaker 1: would think, but people tried it. There's a picture he 757 00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 1: had after the season was over, like an aerial show. 758 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,440 Speaker 1: He's in a pool and if it's a girlfriend or 759 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,320 Speaker 1: the young lady's with at the time the pool, they're 760 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,439 Speaker 1: in rafts with the shape of an upside down ill, 761 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,640 Speaker 1: which is what you do to trow Louisville the main role. 762 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:16,200 Speaker 1: Like Texas, everybody goes horns down. If you want to 763 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:20,280 Speaker 1: mess with Louisville, your els downels down in the pool 764 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:24,160 Speaker 1: with the way their rafts were aligned together. So he's 765 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,279 Speaker 1: not afraid to have a good time. But at the 766 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 1: same time, he never let that overtake what the main 767 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,719 Speaker 1: thing was was about being the quarterback, being the leader, 768 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,560 Speaker 1: being the face of Kentucky, and eventually being the face 769 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,920 Speaker 1: of whatever team drafts him. What I'm getting out of 770 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:40,400 Speaker 1: this is he's gonna be a lot of fun to 771 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 1: cover and he's got a four point zero in trolling. 772 00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,120 Speaker 1: That's fantastic. I was just gonna say, so, if it's 773 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:50,960 Speaker 1: you know, those duels with Trevor Lawrence or whoever it is, 774 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,359 Speaker 1: if he's in that FC South, it'll be fun. If 775 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 1: he's poking and getting you. You know, Texans fans riled 776 00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,440 Speaker 1: up for these division games coming up, all right, that 777 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:00,840 Speaker 1: would be a lot out of fun. All right, I 778 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:02,279 Speaker 1: was gonna say, before I let you go, what about 779 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,239 Speaker 1: some other Kentucky prospects that we should have our eyes 780 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,319 Speaker 1: on for this year's draft? Kedron Smith at corner. He 781 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:13,279 Speaker 1: transferred in from oh Miss Carrington. Valentine put his name 782 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,279 Speaker 1: in the draft. He played dB as well. Us kind 783 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,000 Speaker 1: of surprises see him leave, but you can kind of 784 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:22,239 Speaker 1: look out and see what he does as well. Those 785 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,320 Speaker 1: are probably the main two guys you gonna have Levis 786 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,760 Speaker 1: as well, but those would be the ones I would 787 00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:29,640 Speaker 1: kind of keep my out for. All right. We'll have 788 00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,560 Speaker 1: to watch out and see. Vinny Hardy covers the Wildcats 789 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,560 Speaker 1: and host the Believe in Kentucky podcast. You can follow 790 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,719 Speaker 1: him on Twitter at Vinnie Hardy h A R d 791 00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 1: Y Vitty. Appreciate the time of the insight. Thank you 792 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:45,359 Speaker 1: so much, appreciate you having me. DP. Thank you very much, 793 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:50,720 Speaker 1: Vinny and DP for joining the show from Indianapolis. DPS 794 00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,040 Speaker 1: here in Indie, Drew, the whole whole crew is here. 795 00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,520 Speaker 1: Can't wait for everybody to get rolling on Tuesday, when 796 00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,719 Speaker 1: Nicki Sario will join us and Damiko Risal Joyce. I'm 797 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,400 Speaker 1: when day now the scheduled to change. They might have 798 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,560 Speaker 1: things going on, but that's the way it sits right now. 799 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 1: Nick on Tuesday to Meek on Wednesday. Cannot wait to 800 00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,080 Speaker 1: catch up with both of those gentlemen right here in Indianapolis. 801 00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,520 Speaker 1: So big thanks to VINNI, to DP, to Mark, to 802 00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:15,200 Speaker 1: all of you for listen. Thanks so much, We'll see 803 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:16,760 Speaker 1: you next time and as always, Texans