WEBVTT - Weirdhouse Cinema: The Face Behind the Mask

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind, a production of iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, welcome to Weird House Cinema.

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<v Speaker 3>This is Rob Lamb and this is Joe McCormick.

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<v Speaker 2>In today's episode of Weird House Cinema. We're getting in

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<v Speaker 2>on the Noir November festivities. If you're not familiar with this,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a yearly, month long celebration of noir cinema,

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<v Speaker 2>a concept introduced in twenty ten by film critic Maria E.

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<v Speaker 3>Gates.

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<v Speaker 2>Film noir is, of course, a turn that covers a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of ground and bleeds into a number of different

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<v Speaker 2>subgenres and adjacent genres. I mean it ultimately becomes just

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<v Speaker 2>sort of a shade, you know, and a stylistic flourish

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<v Speaker 2>that may be employed even just in key scenes in

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<v Speaker 2>a particular picture. But in its arguably truest form, we're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about black and white old Hollywood. I'm dramas full

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<v Speaker 2>of cynicism, amoral characters and style, heavy dash of German expressionism,

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<v Speaker 2>plenty of cigarette smoke. Throw all that in and you're

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<v Speaker 2>good to go. There's also much to be said about

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<v Speaker 2>this genre emerging out of the Great Depression. Lots of

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<v Speaker 2>moving parts, so you can identify noir in everything from

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<v Speaker 2>such films as The Maltese Falcon from nineteen forty one

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen forty two's Casablanca to stuff like nineteen eighty two's

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<v Speaker 2>Blade Runner and multiple neo noir films from the likes

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<v Speaker 2>of the Cohen Brothers and David Lynch. And we haven't

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<v Speaker 2>really gotten in on this Noirvember thing before. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen it. I've seen it celebrated at Videodrome, the

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<v Speaker 2>rental store here in Atlanta, I've seen it celebrated online

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<v Speaker 2>in various places, and you know, it feels right. November

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<v Speaker 2>is a really choice month for all of this, because

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<v Speaker 2>wordplay aside, it's a month of continued descent through fall

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<v Speaker 2>and into winter. It's a month often deified by things

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<v Speaker 2>like elections or corporate layoffs. It's a bleak time for

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<v Speaker 2>bleak hearts. So what better time than now to dive

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<v Speaker 2>into the black and white world of private detectives and

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<v Speaker 2>professional criminals. So what is today's movie? It is nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>forty one's The Face Behind the Mask, And yeah, it

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<v Speaker 2>actually comes out nine months before The Maltese Falcon, which

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<v Speaker 2>is sometimes considered the first big film noir picture. But

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<v Speaker 2>it also ultimately depends on how you slice it. You

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<v Speaker 2>can also reach back into the thirties for possible examples

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<v Speaker 2>of forerunners in the genre. And also, this is a

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<v Speaker 2>picture that I'm to understand wasn't actually viewed a lot

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<v Speaker 2>after its initial release. It's kind of built up a

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<v Speaker 2>following over time.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so your selection this week got me really thinking

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<v Speaker 4>about what is it that makes a movie film noir.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't really know exactly what the primary criteria are.

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<v Speaker 4>It's one of those things where it's defined by a

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<v Speaker 4>number of different sort of plot conventions and stylistic conventions.

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<v Speaker 4>And if a movie has a critical mass, if it

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<v Speaker 4>has enough of these different things in it, then it

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<v Speaker 4>starts to feel like noir. But I don't know what

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<v Speaker 4>the core things are though you mentioned a minute ago

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<v Speaker 4>the Maltese Falcon, the Humphrey Bogart movie, and I feel

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<v Speaker 4>like that's kind of the prototype film noir, right, Like

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<v Speaker 4>that's or the archetype. I don't know which is the

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<v Speaker 4>right term there. It's like it's the type example that

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<v Speaker 4>you think of, or at least that I think of

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<v Speaker 4>for film noir. So it has a tough, cynical detective,

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<v Speaker 4>it has a lot of people running around chasing after money.

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<v Speaker 4>It has cynical crime themes. It has a maybe somewhat

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<v Speaker 4>gloomy outlook on human nature, but also has a sense

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<v Speaker 4>of humor, a kind of dark sense of humor. And

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<v Speaker 4>in fact, it has an actor in common with the

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<v Speaker 4>movie we're going to be talking about today, because a

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<v Speaker 4>major character actor in The Maltese Falcon is Peter Laura

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<v Speaker 4>in the role of Joel Cairo, who is the main

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<v Speaker 4>character in the face behind the mask. So I would say,

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<v Speaker 4>almost to the same extent that I associate Humphrey Bogart

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<v Speaker 4>with noir, I also associate Peter Laurie with it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're cooking film noir, either during this time period

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<v Speaker 2>or in later decades, Peter Lourie, or at least the

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<v Speaker 2>ghost of Peter Laurie, is very much on the spice rack,

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<v Speaker 2>as is Humphrey Bogart, as are various other elements. Like

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<v Speaker 2>you can also throw in things that are not president

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<v Speaker 2>in this picture, such as the fem fatale is very

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<v Speaker 2>often employed to some degree in a noir picture. So

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<v Speaker 2>there are yea all these different things that may or

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<v Speaker 2>may not be added to the finished product. But when

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<v Speaker 2>you taste the soup, you know, Ah, this is film noir.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, cigarettes, fried eggs, black coffee, revolvers, Fedoras, trench coats.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what's going on here, and Peter Laurie is part

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<v Speaker 4>of the mix.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So as far as weird house cinema selections go, it's

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<v Speaker 2>notable that this is our This is only our fourth

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<v Speaker 2>selection from the nineteen forties, following Doctor Cyclops, The Beast

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<v Speaker 2>with Five Fingers, and The Devil Bat. It's our second

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<v Speaker 2>picture directed by Robert Florey and our third Peter Lorii picture.

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<v Speaker 2>It's also one of our infrequent picks to not feature

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<v Speaker 2>a speculative element, though I would say it's weird enough

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<v Speaker 2>in its own way for our purposes. I also want

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<v Speaker 2>to stress that this film is also very strongly a melodrama,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's not subtle in its manipulation of the heart strings.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a bit of a morality play as well. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's Yeah, it's a good picture. I was really pleased with.

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<v Speaker 2>It's one that's kind of been on my short list

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<v Speaker 2>for a long time. Often held up as one of

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<v Speaker 2>Laurie's best performances, a picture where he is the lead

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<v Speaker 2>and gets to bust out a number of his tools,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, not just be the villain or a

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<v Speaker 2>side villain or a side quirky character. He is the

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<v Speaker 2>main event here.

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<v Speaker 4>This really is a look at my range movie for

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<v Speaker 4>Peter Lourie. There are some scenes where he is so

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<v Speaker 4>wholesome and so precious, He's just cute, adorable, wonderful, other

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<v Speaker 4>scenes where he is the creepiest creep and he gets

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<v Speaker 4>to do both in the same film.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so for like an absolute Peter LORII picture, it's

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<v Speaker 2>like this and Mad Love or I think Neck and Neck.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't, but each film hit slightly different notes. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't get the same array of Peter Lourie in

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<v Speaker 2>both films, but added together, I mean, you get to

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<v Speaker 2>see so many different colors from him.

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<v Speaker 4>But you're also right in saying that this is not

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<v Speaker 4>a subtle film. I mean, this is not a film

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<v Speaker 4>where the drama takes place reading between the lines. It's

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<v Speaker 4>all on the lines here. So there are extremely overt

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<v Speaker 4>monologues in which the themes of the film are pretty

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<v Speaker 4>explicitly stated, and we get like swelling music while they're delivered,

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<v Speaker 4>and they're delivered in almost kind of a stage performance way,

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<v Speaker 4>characters kind of borderline shout their lines and they're full

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<v Speaker 4>of overt passion. But if you know, if you know

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<v Speaker 4>that's what you're in for, it's not really a bad thing.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just a different way to tell a story.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Another point about this picture we'll keep coming back to

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<v Speaker 2>is that it's a pretty fast ride. This film's only

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<v Speaker 2>sixty nine minutes long, and I think it's the rare

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<v Speaker 2>weird house cinema selection where I have to say I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think it is long enough. I feel like I

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<v Speaker 2>needed a little bit more from it. I mean, what

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<v Speaker 2>we have is tremendous, but you know, I wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>see scenes that are alluded to but not shown to us.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, it doesn't have a lot of time to

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<v Speaker 2>even necessarily further explore some of the ideas that it

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<v Speaker 2>brings up, which you know isn't necessarily a bad thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Many of the most pivotal scenes in the plot happen

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<v Speaker 4>off screen. They're like the big turning points are like

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<v Speaker 4>you see what's leading up to it, and then you

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<v Speaker 4>see the characters talking about it afterwards, but you don't

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<v Speaker 4>see the thing itself.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but you know, so it's like Frank Herbert would

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<v Speaker 2>dig that. But it's like, it's not battle scenes that

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<v Speaker 2>are left out, you know, it's not like big budget

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<v Speaker 2>things that I don't know, you know, maybe it was

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<v Speaker 2>a budgetary decision to not show someone like the key

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<v Speaker 2>heists that become important later on, but you know, they

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<v Speaker 2>make a lot out of the time they have here.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you think they left out the safe cracking scene? Like,

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<v Speaker 4>was it cut for content that was just like too

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<v Speaker 4>spicy for audiences at the time.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I really yeah, we'll talk about when

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<v Speaker 2>we get to that point in the plot, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I really wanted to see this first big heist that

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<v Speaker 2>that Janosh is involved in. But more on that in

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<v Speaker 2>a bit.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 4>I am, by no means an expert in film noir,

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<v Speaker 4>but I associate several different plot types with this genre.

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<v Speaker 4>The most common, I would say is the private detective story.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, somebody shows up with a strange case for

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<v Speaker 4>a private detective and the detective goes down the rabbit hole,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, figuring out all the twists and turns and

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<v Speaker 4>all that. Multice falcon is of that sort. But if

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<v Speaker 4>there is a second type of plot structure I most

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<v Speaker 4>associate with film noir. It is the plot that we

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<v Speaker 4>get in the face behind the mask, which is an

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<v Speaker 4>originally good hearted person is lured or forced into a

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<v Speaker 4>life of crime.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, fallen angel, breaking bad, Yes, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And one of the interesting things about it is that

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<v Speaker 2>this is of course also an immigrant story. And so

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<v Speaker 2>the good person at the heart of this is someone

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<v Speaker 2>who is entering America for the first time and has

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<v Speaker 2>all these big ideas and all these dreams, dreams that

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<v Speaker 2>he has absorbed, you know, from afar, the American dream,

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<v Speaker 2>and so his fall is also about realizing the flaws

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<v Speaker 2>in the American dream and the things that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>that he had built up in his head that just

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<v Speaker 2>aren't part of the reality.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that his hopes are sort of crash against the

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<v Speaker 4>rocks of reality and of circumstances beyond his control. And

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<v Speaker 4>that just happens over and over until he is forced

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<v Speaker 4>into becoming the gang story that he once feared.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Now I don't have any trailer audio for

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<v Speaker 2>this one, but if you want a little dash of

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<v Speaker 2>the trailer audio, look up Joe Dante's Trailers from Hell

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<v Speaker 2>feature on it. It's pretty fun. It's just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Dante talking a little bit about this picture and

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<v Speaker 2>then sharing some audio and video from the trailer. But

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't find that trailer anywhere else for us to sample,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'll just say go ahead and check out what

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Dante has to share about that trailer. Now you

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<v Speaker 2>might be wondering at this point, Hey, I haven't seen

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<v Speaker 2>Face Behind the Mask. I'd like to before continuing on

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<v Speaker 2>with the episode. Well, fair enough. I support that. This one, however,

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<v Speaker 2>is not, to my knowledge, currently available in the US

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<v Speaker 2>on disc, but it is currently part of the streaming

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<v Speaker 2>options over at the Criterion Channel. That's the streaming platform

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<v Speaker 2>and app brought to you by the Criterion Collection. The

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<v Speaker 2>Face behind the Mask is currently featured as part of

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<v Speaker 2>their Noir November Essentials collection. We don't champion a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of streaming options on stuff to blow your mind, but

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<v Speaker 2>the Criterion Channel is, in my unpaid four opinion, here

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<v Speaker 2>a great streaming option for film fans. So you can

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<v Speaker 2>try it for free for a week, you know that

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<v Speaker 2>sort of thing. But you can watch everything from Brida

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<v Speaker 2>Frankenstein and Scanners to the story of Ricky and Raising Arizona,

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<v Speaker 2>and they have some really tantalizing playlists of films, including

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<v Speaker 2>I was just looking at it this morning. There's one

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<v Speaker 2>that's just synth scores, so all sorts of cool electronic

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<v Speaker 2>scores for the pictures selected. And then they have one

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<v Speaker 2>that's just hopping vampires. So it's like, I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>all just mister Vampire pictures. And of course we talked

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<v Speaker 2>about the first Mister Vampire film on the show a

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<v Speaker 2>while back.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, also, in my unpaid for opinion, I greatly enjoyed

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<v Speaker 4>the Criterion Channel, though I should issue a warning to

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<v Speaker 4>people because I was confused by this at first. You

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<v Speaker 4>can't assume just because a movie has a Criterion collection

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<v Speaker 4>release that it will be featured streaming on the Criterion Channel.

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<v Speaker 4>Some movies have a disc from Criterion, but they're not

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<v Speaker 4>on there. But it's still a good channel.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, And likewise, there are plenty of pictures on there

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<v Speaker 2>that I don't think have discs on Criterion. But it's

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<v Speaker 2>just it's a great selection, and a number of weird

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<v Speaker 2>house cinema pictures are in there as of this recording.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's run through some of the people involved here.

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<v Speaker 2>The director is, of course Robert Florey, who have nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>hundred through nineteen seventy nine. Industrial strength French American director

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<v Speaker 2>who worked from the twenties through the sixties, amassing one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and eighteen credits and just really cranking out pictures

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<v Speaker 2>during the nineteen thirties. His early career was apparently more

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<v Speaker 2>avant garde expressionism, but he became one of these kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like cinematic workhorse types of guys. From a purely

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<v Speaker 2>horror standpoint. He's perhaps best known for directing Murders in

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<v Speaker 2>the Room Morgue nineteen thirty two, based on the Edgar

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<v Speaker 2>Allen post story and starring Hungarian American film legend Lagosi,

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<v Speaker 2>as well as ape suit legend Charles Gomora. Also of

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<v Speaker 2>note was the noir film Daughter of Shanghai from thirty seven.

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<v Speaker 2>That one featured a female Chinese American elite in the

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<v Speaker 2>form of Anime Wong, another legendary name from a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of noir pictures, as well as Korean American actor Philip

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<v Speaker 2>an Flori is also noted for having been the initial

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<v Speaker 2>director on nineteen thirty one's Frankenstein, with Lugosi attached to

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<v Speaker 2>play the monster during those early stages, before Legosi like

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<v Speaker 2>leaving the picture because he didn't want to play like this.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, what we might think of is just like

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<v Speaker 2>a killing machine Frankenstein monster, and you know, of course

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<v Speaker 2>Flores ends up being replaced by James Whale, and we'd

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<v Speaker 2>get the nineteen thirty one Frankenstein that we all know

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<v Speaker 2>and love. Flori later directed a lot of TV, and

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<v Speaker 2>his last film credit as an episode. Our TV credit

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<v Speaker 2>is an episode of the original Outer Limits series titled Moonstone.

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<v Speaker 2>He also did three Twilight Zone episodes. All right, now,

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<v Speaker 2>as far as the story and screenplay here goes, there

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<v Speaker 2>are four different names, some of which I don't have

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of information on. Apparently the story is based

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<v Speaker 2>on a radio play called Interim by Thomas Edward O'Connell,

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<v Speaker 2>who live nineteen fifteen through nineteen sixty one. I couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>find out much about this. The screenplay for the film, however,

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<v Speaker 2>was apparently very much put together with Peter Lourie in

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<v Speaker 2>mind for the lead. Let's see, author Levinson has a

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<v Speaker 2>story credit note relation obviously to I think there's a

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<v Speaker 2>contemporary author Levinson who's involved with like Apple computers or

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<v Speaker 2>something different.

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<v Speaker 3>Guy.

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<v Speaker 2>There's Alan Vincent who has a screenplay credit, who lived

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen oh three through nineteen seventy nine actor and screenwriter

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<v Speaker 2>who appeared in such films as nineteen thirty three's Mystery

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<v Speaker 2>of the Wax Museum. This is his first screenplay credit,

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<v Speaker 2>and then we also have a screen play credit for

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<v Speaker 2>Paul Jericho, who lived nineteen fifteen through nineteen ninety seven.

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<v Speaker 2>Oscar nominated American screenwriter here for nineteen forty two's Tom

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<v Speaker 2>Dick and Harry, who was later blacklisted during the McCarthy

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<v Speaker 2>era for his ties to the Communist Party and alleged

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<v Speaker 2>subversive content. During this time, though, he produced the nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>fifty four film Salt of the Earth, which was a

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<v Speaker 2>project that entailed a handful of other blacklisted filmmakers and

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<v Speaker 2>was well received, and I think it continues to be

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<v Speaker 2>well received. Often worked uncredited or under a pseudonym. His

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<v Speaker 2>other credits also include nineteen sixty twos All Night Long,

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<v Speaker 2>All Right, but of course our star playing Janosh Johnny Zabo.

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<v Speaker 2>We have Peter Lourie Yeah, nineteen oh four through nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>sixty four, Austro Hungarian actor of Jewish descent who made

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<v Speaker 2>it big in Fritz Lung's im Back in thirty one,

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes singled out as an early noir picture are certainly

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<v Speaker 2>very influential on noir films to follow, before he ended

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<v Speaker 2>up fleeing the rise of anti Semitism under the Nazi regime.

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<v Speaker 2>A legendary character actor who of course appeared in one

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<v Speaker 2>of our first Weird House Cinema episodes, covering nineteen thirty

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<v Speaker 2>five's Mad Love, he is best remembered for his various

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<v Speaker 2>roles in such noir mainstays as Casablanca, Maltese falcon thrillers

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<v Speaker 2>like nineteen thirty four's The Man Who Knew Too Much,

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<v Speaker 2>as well as such horror films as nineteen sixty three's

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<v Speaker 2>The Raven and even such big budget productions as nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>fifty four to twenty thousand Leagues under the Sea. He

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<v Speaker 2>wrote and directed a single film, nineteen fifty one's The

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<v Speaker 2>Lost One, and he was technically the first actor to

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<v Speaker 2>play a Bond villain, appearing in the nineteen fifty four

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<v Speaker 2>TV adaptation of Casino Royale.

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<v Speaker 4>This is the Thing That was an adaptation of Casino

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<v Speaker 4>Royale that had Barry Nelson as James Bond. Barry Nelson

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<v Speaker 4>is the guy who plays the hotel manager at the

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<v Speaker 4>beginning of the Shining. He's like the guy hiring Jack Nicholson.

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<v Speaker 2>This is back when James Bond was played by an

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<v Speaker 2>America and present it as an American character.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh that's so good.

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<v Speaker 4>But man, I would watch Peter Laurie as La Chief

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<v Speaker 4>that that'd be good.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I'm whatever else is.

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<v Speaker 2>Going on, Yeah yeah, I mean Peter Laurie is such

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<v Speaker 2>an intriguing icon, you know, like iconic in ways that

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<v Speaker 2>are hard to overstress, you know, like he becomes this

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<v Speaker 2>like you go ack and you watch old Bugs Bunny

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<v Speaker 2>cartoons and they'll have a Peter Lourie character. I think

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<v Speaker 2>plenty of people still like doing, Like if you have

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<v Speaker 2>I have a Dungeons and Dragon's character that uses a

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<v Speaker 2>Peter Loriie voice. I feel like a lot of other

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<v Speaker 2>people haven't leave. Even dungeon masters have probably done some

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<v Speaker 2>version of a Peter Lourie voice at some point. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>he's just he's that iconic.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he's so iconic that my Christoph Lambert voice is

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<v Speaker 4>actually a Peter Lorrie voice.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, I mean, he's just tremendous, you know, And

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<v Speaker 2>he was. He was frequently typecast the Sinister Foreigners, and

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<v Speaker 2>his career has some real ups and downs absolutely, but

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<v Speaker 2>especially during his prime here, he's always there's always something

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<v Speaker 2>about his performance.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a treat.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is a film much like Madlove, where we

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<v Speaker 2>get to enjoy him as the star of the picture.

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<v Speaker 2>He gets to play a lot of different notes in

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<v Speaker 2>his performance that we don't otherwise get to experience. I

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<v Speaker 2>want to point out too, that he was thirty six

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<v Speaker 2>when they filmed this, and he looks thirty six. But

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<v Speaker 2>there are different points where they would call him like kid.

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<v Speaker 2>Are they talking about him as if he's like this

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<v Speaker 2>young boy who just arrived in America. It's like he's

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<v Speaker 2>clearly a grown man, but fair enough.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, I don't know. Early in the film, he's

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<v Speaker 4>so full of hope. He almost has a kind of

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<v Speaker 4>newborn quality.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean he is totally bought into the American mythology

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<v Speaker 2>that he's been presented with. And yeah, it's just overflowing

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<v Speaker 2>with optimism and it is a bit naive, as we'll discuss,

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<v Speaker 2>all right. So that's Peter Laurie more his performance as

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<v Speaker 2>we proceed. The love interest here, the eventual blind love

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<v Speaker 2>interest for our protagonist is the character Helen Williams played

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<v Speaker 2>by Evelyn Keys, who lived nineteen sixteen through two thousand

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<v Speaker 2>and eight. She was an American actress who played supporting

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<v Speaker 2>roles in some pretty big films, including nineteen thirty nine's

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<v Speaker 2>Gone with the Wind and nineteen fifty five's The Seven

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<v Speaker 2>Year Itch. Other credits include nineteen fifty one's The Prowler

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<v Speaker 2>and then much later in her career, Larry Cohen's A

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<v Speaker 2>Return to Salem's Lot in nineteen eighty seven.

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<v Speaker 4>So we were just mentioning there's a part of the

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<v Speaker 4>movie where where Peter Lourie is full of hope and optimism,

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<v Speaker 4>but the character of Helen appears later in the film

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<v Speaker 4>after all of Peter Laurie's hope and optimism is gone,

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<v Speaker 4>and she's sort of like the energy beat. She's like

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<v Speaker 4>an energy weapon of happiness just blasting into the film

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<v Speaker 4>from orbit, and you know what it's like. She really

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<v Speaker 4>does completely change the tone of the movie when she appears.

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<v Speaker 4>But of course, you know, this is film noir, so

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<v Speaker 4>they're going to have to play this romance for tragedy ultimately.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, she's she's great in this. She's delightful,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, totally buy into this this light of optimism.

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<v Speaker 2>You know that she brings, but also like obviously she's

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<v Speaker 2>a doomed angel, you know, like, yeah, you know where.

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<v Speaker 3>This is going? Too good for this world? All right.

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<v Speaker 2>We also have Don Bedo playing Lieutenant James Jim O'Hara.

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<v Speaker 2>He lived nineteen oh three through nineteen ninety one. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he's a sympathetic New York police officer who helps jan

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<v Speaker 2>o'sher early on. Played by an American character actor whose

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<v Speaker 2>credits include nineteen fifty five is the Night of the

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<v Speaker 2>Hunter and nineteen forty six is the Best Years of

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<v Speaker 2>Our Lives. He performed on Broadway prior to this movie

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<v Speaker 2>and prior to his going into film and television. According

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<v Speaker 2>to Joe Dante, he's an actor known for a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of milk toast roles, but he thinks this is one

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<v Speaker 2>of his best performances. And then we have the character

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<v Speaker 2>of Dinky.

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<v Speaker 3>Dinky.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the character that really surprised me because I

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<v Speaker 2>came into this expecting a great Peter Lorrie performance, but

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<v Speaker 2>I really think George E. Stone is terrific here as Dinky,

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<v Speaker 2>the criminal with a heart of gold.

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<v Speaker 4>He's the guy who he just can't he can't stop

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<v Speaker 4>doing crime, but he's actually a really nice guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he doesn't want to do crimes, but like, things

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<v Speaker 2>keep happening and he keeps falling back down the ladder,

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<v Speaker 2>and then he has no choice, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Stone lived nineteen oh three through nineteen sixty seven. Polish

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<v Speaker 2>born American actor of Vaudeville, Broadway, film, and TV. Played

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of scrappy Prohibition era New York characters often

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<v Speaker 2>described as runyon esque. This is not really terminology I

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<v Speaker 2>was familiar with, but this is a reference to the

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<v Speaker 2>writings of author Damon Runyon, who invoked a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>colorful New York City slang in his writings.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, So like when we very first meet Dinky,

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<v Speaker 4>he comes out of the shadows to pick up the

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<v Speaker 4>wallet that was dropped by like a wealthy you know,

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<v Speaker 4>Wall Street trader who gets scared by Peter Lorii's face

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<v Speaker 4>in the middle of the movie scene, and Dinky he

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<v Speaker 4>picks up the wallet and he goes like, hey, let's

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<v Speaker 4>see what Sandy Claus left for us.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like, I didn't know what runyon Esque was beforehand,

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<v Speaker 2>but now that I've seen this performance and I have

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<v Speaker 2>heard the word, now, I can recognize runyon esque elsewhere

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<v Speaker 2>in pictures, like there are definitely characters in Santa Claus

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<v Speaker 2>Conquers the Martians that are run your esque. Yeah, even

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<v Speaker 2>though they're Martians. I don't know why they're run your Esque,

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<v Speaker 2>but anyway, but yes, Stone is terrific in this his

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<v Speaker 2>film roles. Other film roles include nineteen thirty one's Little Caesar,

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen fifty fives Guys and Dolls, and nineteen fifty nine

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<v Speaker 2>Some Like It Hot. Yeah, he's it's a great performance. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>he's very likable and he has a lot of heart,

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<v Speaker 2>and he is a characters will discuss that very much

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<v Speaker 2>saves Janosh at a very dark point in his life.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, to the extent that this movie has a villain,

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<v Speaker 2>like a centralized individual villain, it is Jeff Jeffries. I

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<v Speaker 2>guess his full name would be Jeffrey Jeff Jeffries, a

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<v Speaker 2>man so Jeff they named him twice, played by James

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<v Speaker 2>c who lived nineteen fourteen through nineteen ninety two.

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<v Speaker 4>I was banging my head trying to figure out where

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<v Speaker 4>I recognized this guy from because he was very familiar,

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<v Speaker 4>and I finally realized it was from a Miracle on

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<v Speaker 4>thirty fourth Street.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, who does he play in that.

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<v Speaker 4>He's like I think there are two psychiatrists in it,

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<v Speaker 4>and there's like the one mean one who's sort of

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<v Speaker 4>the antagonist, and then there's the one nice one, And

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<v Speaker 4>I think he's the nice one. I could be remembering

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<v Speaker 4>that wrong, but I know he's in the film.

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<v Speaker 2>He has a very memorable chin, and in this picture anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>has very memorable shoulders. Like Jeff's suit has shoulders so

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<v Speaker 2>broad that they made me think of the Dick Tracy

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<v Speaker 2>villain shoulders, Like it's basically the same dimensions.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and he's absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>Towering over all the shorter character actors in the picture, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>his shoulders are as broad as Peter Laurie is like

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<v Speaker 2>long if you laid him out, you know, Like that's

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<v Speaker 2>how broad these shoulders are. It's ridiculous. It's laugh inducing,

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<v Speaker 2>at least from our modern perspective.

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<v Speaker 4>The effect created by his outfit, and it's a standard forties,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, gang member outfit. So it's a suit with

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<v Speaker 4>a with a black fedora, you know, big shoulder pads,

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<v Speaker 4>the vest of the tie. And if this makes any sense,

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<v Speaker 4>it has the effect of like he's in football pads.

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<v Speaker 4>He's fully suited up. He's suited up for game time.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, I end up having this like real reaction

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<v Speaker 2>to him too, because like Laurie is obviously like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he was a much shorter guy. You know, he's he's

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<v Speaker 2>not leading your typical leading man material, you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>he really I attached to Peter Lourie more as like

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<v Speaker 2>he is like a nerd, you know, he's one of us.

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<v Speaker 2>And Jeff Jefferies is total jock here. James c is

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<v Speaker 2>like total jock mode, and like its instantly I identify

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<v Speaker 2>him as a danger to our hero and our icon here.

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<v Speaker 4>But there's there's a scene where Peter Lourie like beats him.

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<v Speaker 2>Up, yeah and makes us believe it. Like I like,

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<v Speaker 2>we build up to that encounter and I'm like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>how are you going to make me believe this? Like

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<v Speaker 2>this dude is enormous, But you know Laurie does it.

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<v Speaker 2>But uh yeah, See, see pops up in a number

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<v Speaker 2>of different things, So you might have seen him in

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<v Speaker 2>things like fifty ones, The Day the Earth Stood Still,

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<v Speaker 2>fifty four'st Killers from Outer Space, and I think I

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<v Speaker 2>probably recognize I don't know who he was in this

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<v Speaker 2>because I haven't seen it forever. Because nobody will put

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<v Speaker 2>it out on disk, but nineteen fifty seven is the

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<v Speaker 2>Amazing Colossal Man also features a James.

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<v Speaker 4>C row Oh and Rob you had this note. He

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<v Speaker 4>was also in the Beginning of the End, which is

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<v Speaker 4>a Burt Eye Gordon film. This is the one with

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<v Speaker 4>the giant grasshopper.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's another one. I don't think I've

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<v Speaker 2>ever seen that one in full. And he's not the

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<v Speaker 2>star in that one. He's like, you know, mid cast.

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<v Speaker 2>That one stars Peter Graves.

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<v Speaker 4>I think see here was known for often playing like

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<v Speaker 4>a military commander or some government bureaucrat. He's like somebody

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<v Speaker 4>you would cut away to and they're just giving orders. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>and so he's got a more substantial role in this movie.

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<v Speaker 4>But it does turn out because I've seen Beginning of

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<v Speaker 4>the End and I've seen some of these other sci

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<v Speaker 4>fi movies, so it's not just Miracle on thirty fourth Street.

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<v Speaker 4>I know him from him, but that is what was

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<v Speaker 4>in my mind when I was seeing him here in

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<v Speaker 4>his crime uniform.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right. Two more behind the scenes credits to mention.

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<v Speaker 2>Franz Planner, who had eighteen ninety fourth through nineteen sixty three,

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<v Speaker 2>is the cinematographer Austria, Hungarian cinematographer and five time Oscar nominee.

0:26:51.359 --> 0:26:54.879
<v Speaker 2>His other credits include nineteen fifty threes The five Thousand

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<v Speaker 2>Fingers of Doctor t that is one that has been

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<v Speaker 2>recommended for Weird House numerous times, also Roman Holiday, as

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<v Speaker 2>well as nineteen fifty fourth twenty thousand Leagues under the Sea,

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<v Speaker 2>which of course has Peter Lourie and it's a pretty

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<v Speaker 2>vast ensemble cast. And then finally Sydney Kuttner is credited

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<v Speaker 2>with music on this nineteen oh three through nineteen seventy one.

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<v Speaker 2>But this is all pretty much stock music, I'm to understand,

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<v Speaker 2>and there are some other music credits in there that

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<v Speaker 2>are clearly labeled as stock. So you know, there's nothing

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<v Speaker 2>out of the ordinary as far as the music for

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<v Speaker 2>Face Behind the Mask. But it's effective, it does the job.

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<v Speaker 2>It's nice and melodramatic, all right.

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<v Speaker 4>So I guess we're doing the plot now. So the

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<v Speaker 4>movie opens with some text gives us the setting, and

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<v Speaker 4>it says it's set just a few years ago, when

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<v Speaker 4>a voyage to America an adventure, not flight, when a

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<v Speaker 4>quota was a number, not a lottery prize to be

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<v Speaker 4>captured by a lucky few. I guess the contrast between

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<v Speaker 4>adventure and flight there being that this movie was released

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<v Speaker 4>during World.

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<v Speaker 2>War Two, so yeah, it's already kind of like calling

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<v Speaker 2>back to the interwar period here.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so we see a boat streaming into harbor in

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<v Speaker 4>New York City, passing in front of the Statue of Liberty,

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<v Speaker 4>and on the musical track, the orchestra plays a couple

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<v Speaker 4>of bars of my country tis of thee when we

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<v Speaker 4>see the statue. So again, this movie is not subtle.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it lays it on pretty thick.

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<v Speaker 4>And then on the boat, two passengers gaze out over

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<v Speaker 4>the water. So there's one man who's sort of taller

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<v Speaker 4>with a mustache, looking a little bit hopeful, but his

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<v Speaker 4>expression is more tempered and he walks away, leaving only

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<v Speaker 4>the other guy there. The other guy in the background

0:28:46.000 --> 0:28:49.520
<v Speaker 4>is Peter Lori, looking out at the scene with wide eyed,

0:28:49.600 --> 0:28:54.440
<v Speaker 4>almost childlike giddiness. And this is our protagonist Janosh, a

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<v Speaker 4>watchmaker by trade who is a new arrival to America

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<v Speaker 4>from Hungary. Yanosh approaches a crew member on the deck

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<v Speaker 4>of the ship with excitement and he asks him for

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<v Speaker 4>a match, and the kindly man offers him a match,

0:29:07.480 --> 0:29:09.880
<v Speaker 4>and then Janosh says, no, thank you, I don't smoke,

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<v Speaker 4>and then he asks for the time. The man tells

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<v Speaker 4>him it's a quarter past ten. Yanosh checks his own

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<v Speaker 4>watch and agrees that is indeed the time. Janosh then

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<v Speaker 4>reveals with an infectious giggle that he is simply practicing

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<v Speaker 4>his English and again, I can't drive home enough. How

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<v Speaker 4>sweet Peter Laurie is at the beginning here.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yeah, he really is.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a childlike innocence here.

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<v Speaker 4>So he points out over the water at the Statue

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<v Speaker 4>of Liberty and he says, look, she's beautiful, and the

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<v Speaker 4>boat worker agrees, says, yeah, I'd love to see it

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<v Speaker 4>every every time we come into port here, and Yanosh

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<v Speaker 4>then shows him a picture of a woman folded in

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<v Speaker 4>his wallet in his wallet and says, she is very

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<v Speaker 4>beautiful too. This is his beloved Maria. Yanosh explains that

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<v Speaker 4>after he establishes himself in America, she's going to make

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<v Speaker 4>the journey to join him, and then they will be

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<v Speaker 4>married when she arrives. So Janosh arrives on the streets

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<v Speaker 4>of New York and we see him walking around. He

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<v Speaker 4>stops a stranger to ask him where he can find

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<v Speaker 4>a good hot and Cold Water Hotel, and the stranger

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<v Speaker 4>gives him directions to the Carlton Plaza.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like, go.

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<v Speaker 4>Six blocks up, one block over, two blocks to the left,

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<v Speaker 4>and then he says, they're waiting for you. I think

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<v Speaker 4>this went over my head a bit, but I assume

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<v Speaker 4>the joke is that this is a ridiculously fancy hotel

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<v Speaker 4>and they're waiting for you, as like their advertising slogan

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<v Speaker 4>or something.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think that's the dig here.

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<v Speaker 4>But then up the street, Janos stops to buy a

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<v Speaker 4>juice from a street vendor and discovers that all of

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<v Speaker 4>his money is gone. The fifty nine dollars he arrived with.

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<v Speaker 4>It's all missing from his wallet. So he runs to

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<v Speaker 4>a nearby policeman for help.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, and at this point he's like he's begging

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<v Speaker 2>the policeman to help him. And again we have more

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<v Speaker 2>of this over the top, a naivety and an optimism

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<v Speaker 2>from Janosh. But he has this line though that is

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<v Speaker 2>so dumb that it does actually succeed in being really funny.

0:31:08.200 --> 0:31:14.520
<v Speaker 2>He's like, I've been gangstered. So but then he like

0:31:14.600 --> 0:31:16.360
<v Speaker 2>calms down a bit, like the this is where we

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<v Speaker 2>meet O'Hara for the first time, and O'Hara is here

0:31:18.480 --> 0:31:20.480
<v Speaker 2>to sort of talk him down, and it's like, all right, well, buddy,

0:31:20.480 --> 0:31:22.880
<v Speaker 2>when when did you last see your money? And then

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<v Speaker 2>he's able to get Janos to calm down enough to realize, oh,

0:31:26.160 --> 0:31:27.440
<v Speaker 2>I still have the money on me.

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<v Speaker 4>I have it under my shirt, that's right. So I

0:31:29.720 --> 0:31:31.880
<v Speaker 4>was afraid in this scene. Oh no, he's going to

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<v Speaker 4>run into a crooked cop who's going to double scam him.

0:31:35.040 --> 0:31:38.480
<v Speaker 4>But fortunately the detective he meets is friendly and helpful,

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<v Speaker 4>so O'Hara talks him through it, and then he remembers

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<v Speaker 4>he was listening to a man on the boat talk

0:31:45.200 --> 0:31:49.280
<v Speaker 4>about gangsters in America and he became afraid. And you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if the like Tommy Gunn gangster was

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<v Speaker 4>as big a media sensation at this point in American

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<v Speaker 4>history as it had been like a decade earlier. I

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<v Speaker 4>think of like the early thirties as the heyday of

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<v Speaker 4>the you know, the big gangster stories about John Dillinger

0:32:04.120 --> 0:32:08.360
<v Speaker 4>and so forth. Maybe I'm wrong about that, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I wonder if that's sort of what they're playing on.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, at any rate, we're all familiar with

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<v Speaker 2>the sort of chewed up by the Big City trope,

0:32:16.040 --> 0:32:19.280
<v Speaker 2>which of course is reflected in that wonderful Simpsons episode

0:32:19.320 --> 0:32:22.600
<v Speaker 2>where Homer has to come back to New York City

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<v Speaker 2>to pay for to get a boot off of his car. Right, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>And it's just you know, absolute I d in his

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<v Speaker 2>mind that this is a hell city that will you know,

0:32:31.120 --> 0:32:34.959
<v Speaker 2>that will come at you. So yeah, I was afraid

0:32:35.000 --> 0:32:38.920
<v Speaker 2>too that Janosh was about to run into another scam

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<v Speaker 2>and just be all the worse off for it.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, because in that Simpsons episode there's a scene

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<v Speaker 4>where he gets his camera stolen. Then he goes to

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<v Speaker 4>complain to a police officer, and then the police officer

0:32:49.400 --> 0:32:53.840
<v Speaker 4>steals his suitcase. But anyway, like you said, he remembers

0:32:53.880 --> 0:32:55.480
<v Speaker 4>that he just hid his money in the shirt. He

0:32:55.520 --> 0:32:59.360
<v Speaker 4>finds it again, so everything's okay. Then the policeman takes

0:32:59.440 --> 0:33:01.840
<v Speaker 4>Yanosh for cold drink of some kind. It looks like

0:33:01.840 --> 0:33:04.960
<v Speaker 4>they're having like an ice cream float. They're at a

0:33:05.000 --> 0:33:08.480
<v Speaker 4>soda shop and Yanosh tells O'Hara about all of his

0:33:08.520 --> 0:33:10.440
<v Speaker 4>hopes and dreams. He wants to get a job and

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<v Speaker 4>make money, then bring Marie over the ocean with him

0:33:13.360 --> 0:33:16.120
<v Speaker 4>to get married and then have children. He wants to

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<v Speaker 4>have his sons follow him into his trade, which is

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<v Speaker 4>watchmaking and watch repair, and Ohara tries to help Yanosh

0:33:25.280 --> 0:33:27.680
<v Speaker 4>by telling him, Hey, I know of a hotel that's clean,

0:33:27.760 --> 0:33:30.560
<v Speaker 4>comfortable and cheap. You go to the Excelsior. It's run

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<v Speaker 4>by a guy named Finnegan. So he gives him directions

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<v Speaker 4>sends him on his way. Now at the hotel, Yanosh

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<v Speaker 4>not only rents a room, but he gets a job

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<v Speaker 4>washing dishes at the cafe on the ground floor, where

0:33:41.600 --> 0:33:44.400
<v Speaker 4>it seems like he does extremely good work. We see

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<v Speaker 4>a scene of him efficiently drying off plates and teacups

0:33:47.360 --> 0:33:50.400
<v Speaker 4>while singing to himself. The gist is that Yanosh is

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<v Speaker 4>a machine. He's a real good worker, and he's friendly

0:33:53.600 --> 0:33:53.960
<v Speaker 4>to boot.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, at this hotel, we learned from the manager there

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<v Speaker 4>are a couple of rules if you're a guest. Of all,

0:34:00.440 --> 0:34:03.200
<v Speaker 4>no ironing for some reason. I think he says it

0:34:03.240 --> 0:34:06.800
<v Speaker 4>overloads the circuits or something. But then the other thing

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<v Speaker 4>is no cooking your own food. And the reason given

0:34:10.320 --> 0:34:13.560
<v Speaker 4>is explicitly that the cafe is not making enough money

0:34:13.640 --> 0:34:16.640
<v Speaker 4>and the hotel needs the business from the guests, so

0:34:16.680 --> 0:34:19.239
<v Speaker 4>you can't make your own food. Well, one night, we

0:34:19.280 --> 0:34:22.040
<v Speaker 4>see Yanosh relaxing in his hotel bed after a long

0:34:22.040 --> 0:34:25.239
<v Speaker 4>shift at work. He's sort of chattering away lovingly to

0:34:25.400 --> 0:34:29.400
<v Speaker 4>his photo of Maria. And then meanwhile, in another room,

0:34:29.680 --> 0:34:33.359
<v Speaker 4>a guest is doing such wickedness. He is breaking one

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<v Speaker 4>of the two commandments. He is cooking in his room,

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<v Speaker 4>and we get a close up of his little hot plate,

0:34:39.800 --> 0:34:43.080
<v Speaker 4>and unfortunately, the black and white photography is not kind

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<v Speaker 4>to whatever he's cooking in this spot. It's some gleaming,

0:34:46.360 --> 0:34:50.680
<v Speaker 4>wretched slop. It looks like he's boiling glass beads in

0:34:50.719 --> 0:34:53.640
<v Speaker 4>a broth of nail polish. It does not look good.

0:34:53.880 --> 0:34:56.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I can figure out what this was. It was like,

0:34:56.080 --> 0:34:58.520
<v Speaker 2>is he doing like some sort of reduction of marachino

0:34:58.640 --> 0:34:59.680
<v Speaker 2>cherries or something.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he's like tasting it. He's stirring it with a

0:35:03.760 --> 0:35:07.960
<v Speaker 4>fork and tating yum yum yum. Well, old man Finn again,

0:35:08.000 --> 0:35:11.320
<v Speaker 4>the guy who runs this place. He's roaming the halls,

0:35:11.480 --> 0:35:14.640
<v Speaker 4>sniffing around at the doors for illegal cookery, and he

0:35:15.280 --> 0:35:17.960
<v Speaker 4>detects He detects the cooking, so he zeros in on

0:35:18.000 --> 0:35:20.680
<v Speaker 4>the culprit, pulls up a ladder and tries to snoop

0:35:20.800 --> 0:35:23.759
<v Speaker 4>through the transom over the door to the room, but

0:35:23.800 --> 0:35:27.000
<v Speaker 4>the guest wises up real quick. He realized he hears

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<v Speaker 4>something outside, and then he hides his hot plate and

0:35:30.520 --> 0:35:33.760
<v Speaker 4>the pot of stew in the drawer of his wooden dresser.

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<v Speaker 4>Seems like a predictable outcome from this, so the guest

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<v Speaker 4>like he hides it in the dresser, and then he

0:35:40.400 --> 0:35:42.799
<v Speaker 4>puts on a hat and coat leaves the room. He

0:35:42.800 --> 0:35:45.920
<v Speaker 4>gives a wink to the old man that the manager.

0:35:45.920 --> 0:35:48.839
<v Speaker 4>He's like, ah, I thought you could catch me. Huh. Now,

0:35:48.880 --> 0:35:51.400
<v Speaker 4>as you might guess, putting the hot plate and the

0:35:51.440 --> 0:35:55.040
<v Speaker 4>pot inside the wooden furniture starts a fire, and the

0:35:55.080 --> 0:35:57.960
<v Speaker 4>fire grows out of control and then rages through the hotel.

0:35:58.960 --> 0:36:02.520
<v Speaker 4>So this scene turns horrifying. Yano Sho had been having

0:36:02.560 --> 0:36:05.439
<v Speaker 4>such a sweet time earlier. He was doing well at work. He's,

0:36:05.560 --> 0:36:09.520
<v Speaker 4>you know, dreaming about his beloved. Suddenly he's awoken to

0:36:09.560 --> 0:36:12.919
<v Speaker 4>find himself in a crumbling inferno. He tries to escape

0:36:12.960 --> 0:36:15.680
<v Speaker 4>the hotel, but he is hit by falling debris and

0:36:15.760 --> 0:36:19.960
<v Speaker 4>he ends up badly injured, very badly burned. By the way,

0:36:20.000 --> 0:36:21.759
<v Speaker 4>I just wanted to point out, rob there's one part

0:36:21.800 --> 0:36:23.600
<v Speaker 4>where he's like coming down the stairs and he's hit

0:36:23.680 --> 0:36:26.720
<v Speaker 4>by burning debris that falls from above and then tumbles

0:36:26.760 --> 0:36:29.839
<v Speaker 4>over the staircase railing. I just thought this was a

0:36:29.880 --> 0:36:32.719
<v Speaker 4>pretty impressive and dangerous looking stunt. I don't know how

0:36:32.760 --> 0:36:33.600
<v Speaker 4>they pulled this off.

0:36:34.040 --> 0:36:36.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm not sure. Like the stunt double of they

0:36:36.880 --> 0:36:38.920
<v Speaker 2>have for Lori here, I assume it's a stunt double

0:36:39.600 --> 0:36:43.440
<v Speaker 2>and looks just like him, And yeah, very terrifying. I

0:36:43.440 --> 0:36:48.440
<v Speaker 2>tend to find most fire effects terrifying in films these days,

0:36:48.440 --> 0:36:52.000
<v Speaker 2>but yeah, it absolutely feels like a raging inferno here.

0:36:52.680 --> 0:36:55.840
<v Speaker 4>So Yano survives and he's taken to the hospital, but

0:36:56.000 --> 0:36:59.440
<v Speaker 4>he has suffered extensive third degree burns over his face

0:36:59.520 --> 0:37:02.160
<v Speaker 4>and head, and we see him in his hospital bed

0:37:02.200 --> 0:37:05.400
<v Speaker 4>with his head wrapped up completely in bandages like a mummy,

0:37:06.160 --> 0:37:10.240
<v Speaker 4>and his policeman friend O'Hara comes to the hospital showing concern.

0:37:10.640 --> 0:37:14.399
<v Speaker 4>He says he feels responsible for Yanosh's injuries because he's

0:37:14.440 --> 0:37:16.840
<v Speaker 4>the one who sent him to that hotel, and he

0:37:16.960 --> 0:37:18.799
<v Speaker 4>pays for some of his care. I think he gives

0:37:18.840 --> 0:37:22.560
<v Speaker 4>five dollars to pay for his hospital care, and then

0:37:22.640 --> 0:37:25.880
<v Speaker 4>he leaves a business card for Yanosh writing a note

0:37:25.920 --> 0:37:28.680
<v Speaker 4>on the back that he should call him when he's recovered.

0:37:29.200 --> 0:37:31.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, or I think the wording is something like when

0:37:31.520 --> 0:37:34.719
<v Speaker 2>things are okay. It's a little bit more vague, and

0:37:34.719 --> 0:37:36.080
<v Speaker 2>that's going to be important later on.

0:37:36.320 --> 0:37:36.719
<v Speaker 3>That's right.

0:37:36.760 --> 0:37:39.760
<v Speaker 4>I think it says call me when okay. So Janosh

0:37:39.920 --> 0:37:42.200
<v Speaker 4>retains the use of his hands, but as the healing

0:37:42.239 --> 0:37:44.680
<v Speaker 4>process goes on, it becomes clear that he's going to

0:37:44.680 --> 0:37:47.520
<v Speaker 4>have extensive scarring on his face and he will never

0:37:47.600 --> 0:37:50.960
<v Speaker 4>look the same. The scene where the doctor removes his

0:37:51.040 --> 0:37:55.120
<v Speaker 4>bandages is extremely dark and it's played like a horror film.

0:37:55.239 --> 0:37:58.120
<v Speaker 4>The doctor draws the shades on the window and then

0:37:58.200 --> 0:38:00.680
<v Speaker 4>covers the mirror in the corner of the room before

0:38:00.719 --> 0:38:04.040
<v Speaker 4>he takes the wrappings off. And while the doctor is

0:38:04.080 --> 0:38:08.479
<v Speaker 4>removing everything, Janosh is still his friendly, optimistic self. He's

0:38:08.560 --> 0:38:10.680
<v Speaker 4>going on and on about how he's excited to go

0:38:10.760 --> 0:38:13.960
<v Speaker 4>back out and look for work. He's talking about how

0:38:14.120 --> 0:38:16.120
<v Speaker 4>he's saying, I'm very skilled with my hands. I have

0:38:16.200 --> 0:38:19.320
<v Speaker 4>experience as a watchmaker, but also in other mechanical jobs.

0:38:19.360 --> 0:38:22.319
<v Speaker 4>I once worked in an airplane factory. I even flew

0:38:22.360 --> 0:38:25.560
<v Speaker 4>airplanes when I was in the Armed Forces. And so

0:38:25.840 --> 0:38:28.759
<v Speaker 4>he's going on about the future. He's very hopeful, but

0:38:29.080 --> 0:38:32.040
<v Speaker 4>once his face is revealed, the nurses in the room

0:38:32.160 --> 0:38:35.000
<v Speaker 4>shut their eyes and wins, and then one nurse even

0:38:35.080 --> 0:38:37.320
<v Speaker 4>walks into the room and screams in horror.

0:38:38.000 --> 0:38:42.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this scene instantly made me think of a nineteen

0:38:42.239 --> 0:38:45.560
<v Speaker 2>eighty nine Batman, the Tim Burton picture. We have that

0:38:45.640 --> 0:38:49.319
<v Speaker 2>great scene with the removal of the bandages on Jack

0:38:49.400 --> 0:38:53.040
<v Speaker 2>Nicholson's joker in that and you know, it's not you know,

0:38:53.120 --> 0:38:57.200
<v Speaker 2>one to one here, But I can't help but ponder

0:38:57.560 --> 0:39:00.600
<v Speaker 2>to what extent like this picture and what other pictures

0:39:00.640 --> 0:39:02.120
<v Speaker 2>may have influenced that scene.

0:39:02.160 --> 0:39:05.400
<v Speaker 4>You know, yeah, I see strong similarity. I would agree

0:39:05.400 --> 0:39:10.040
<v Speaker 4>it's a likely influence. But of course, you know these reactions,

0:39:10.160 --> 0:39:12.560
<v Speaker 4>they start to alarm you a ocean. He becomes upset,

0:39:12.640 --> 0:39:15.240
<v Speaker 4>so he runs to the mirror, pulls away the towel

0:39:15.280 --> 0:39:18.880
<v Speaker 4>that's hiding the glass, and is confronted with his new face.

0:39:19.880 --> 0:39:22.319
<v Speaker 4>Every inch of it is scarred and it has sort

0:39:22.360 --> 0:39:25.960
<v Speaker 4>of a melted texture. And it's interesting that this is

0:39:26.000 --> 0:39:29.640
<v Speaker 4>basically the only time the movie actually gives you a

0:39:29.640 --> 0:39:32.960
<v Speaker 4>good look at his injuries after this scene. For a

0:39:33.000 --> 0:39:37.480
<v Speaker 4>long time, until there's another plot development, his face will

0:39:37.480 --> 0:39:40.760
<v Speaker 4>be always turned away from the camera or otherwise hidden.

0:39:41.800 --> 0:39:44.200
<v Speaker 4>At a certain point, he's going to acquire a customized

0:39:44.320 --> 0:39:47.000
<v Speaker 4>mask that makes him look like Peter Loriie again, but

0:39:47.080 --> 0:39:50.759
<v Speaker 4>a sort of altered lory like Uncanny Laurie. And I

0:39:50.800 --> 0:39:53.399
<v Speaker 4>don't unless I'm forgetting it. There's really not any other

0:39:53.440 --> 0:39:55.440
<v Speaker 4>time they show him with his injuries.

0:39:56.200 --> 0:39:59.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we get some pretty solid glances of it, like

0:40:00.080 --> 0:40:02.600
<v Speaker 2>the mirror and so forth. But yeah, for the most part,

0:40:02.640 --> 0:40:06.719
<v Speaker 2>they they don't show it to us directly. It's focused

0:40:06.719 --> 0:40:10.360
<v Speaker 2>more on him becoming a creature of the shadows and people,

0:40:11.000 --> 0:40:14.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, having this terrible reaction to seeing him.

0:40:14.880 --> 0:40:15.640
<v Speaker 3>And then once the.

0:40:15.640 --> 0:40:19.280
<v Speaker 2>Mask is acquired, it is quite interesting because it gives

0:40:19.440 --> 0:40:22.480
<v Speaker 2>it ends up giving Janosh this kind of weird, almost

0:40:22.680 --> 0:40:23.880
<v Speaker 2>otherworldly beauty.

0:40:23.920 --> 0:40:24.080
<v Speaker 3>You know.

0:40:24.160 --> 0:40:28.000
<v Speaker 2>He's like like like an angel, like a fallen angel certainly,

0:40:28.120 --> 0:40:32.040
<v Speaker 2>you know, but this clearly this being that's caught between realities,

0:40:32.480 --> 0:40:36.400
<v Speaker 2>Like it smooths out Peter Lourie's face. So, yeah, he

0:40:36.680 --> 0:40:40.840
<v Speaker 2>takes on this strange but not like you know, monstrous appearance.

0:40:41.160 --> 0:40:41.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:40:42.000 --> 0:40:45.880
<v Speaker 4>So after seeing his face, Janosh temporarily loses his mind.

0:40:45.920 --> 0:40:49.400
<v Speaker 4>He starts screaming, where is my face, and he thrashes about,

0:40:49.480 --> 0:40:53.799
<v Speaker 4>shouting and attacking the doctor until finally he is forcefully sedated.

0:40:55.200 --> 0:40:58.440
<v Speaker 4>So after this, some time passes and we see things

0:40:58.480 --> 0:41:01.760
<v Speaker 4>continuing to go back. For Yanosh, he goes out looking

0:41:01.800 --> 0:41:04.800
<v Speaker 4>for work, dressed in a black fedora and a dark

0:41:04.840 --> 0:41:07.279
<v Speaker 4>coat with the collar pulled up around his face to

0:41:07.719 --> 0:41:11.080
<v Speaker 4>hide himself. So he's dressed kind of like a cross

0:41:11.120 --> 0:41:14.680
<v Speaker 4>between your standard hard boiled PI but also a bit

0:41:14.719 --> 0:41:18.279
<v Speaker 4>of Dracula in there, somewhere in between the two. And

0:41:18.440 --> 0:41:22.600
<v Speaker 4>everywhere he goes, including a watchmaker shop and an airplane factory,

0:41:23.120 --> 0:41:25.840
<v Speaker 4>he asks for work, but he is turned away once

0:41:25.920 --> 0:41:29.680
<v Speaker 4>the boss sees his face, And there's some very gloomy

0:41:29.719 --> 0:41:32.000
<v Speaker 4>atmosphere in this part of the film, like I'm thinking

0:41:32.000 --> 0:41:35.440
<v Speaker 4>particularly of the scene where he goes to the watchmaker's shop,

0:41:35.560 --> 0:41:38.760
<v Speaker 4>or it seems to be nighttime outside and the windows

0:41:38.800 --> 0:41:42.520
<v Speaker 4>are illuminated from inside, so he goes in to talk,

0:41:42.600 --> 0:41:44.800
<v Speaker 4>but once the watchmaker sees him, he's like, sorry, I

0:41:45.320 --> 0:41:47.200
<v Speaker 4>forgot to take the sign out of the window. We

0:41:47.239 --> 0:41:49.880
<v Speaker 4>don't have any positions and sends him away, and we

0:41:49.920 --> 0:41:53.279
<v Speaker 4>see Peter Lorie walking off down the sidewalk where he's

0:41:53.960 --> 0:41:58.000
<v Speaker 4>illuminated by like he should be illuminated by this lamp

0:41:58.040 --> 0:41:59.839
<v Speaker 4>that we see in the foreground, but it's like none

0:41:59.880 --> 0:42:02.719
<v Speaker 4>of the light touches him somehow, like he's just a

0:42:02.760 --> 0:42:07.200
<v Speaker 4>pure shadow from head to toe. Yeah, we see him

0:42:07.200 --> 0:42:10.520
<v Speaker 4>becoming increasingly desperate when he goes to talk to the

0:42:10.560 --> 0:42:13.719
<v Speaker 4>manager of the airplane factory, like he's turned away from

0:42:13.760 --> 0:42:16.680
<v Speaker 4>the camera, but he says, please, my face makes no

0:42:16.760 --> 0:42:18.880
<v Speaker 4>difference to how I can work with my hands, and

0:42:18.960 --> 0:42:23.800
<v Speaker 4>he's showing the manager his hands, but the manager just says, sorry,

0:42:23.800 --> 0:42:27.360
<v Speaker 4>there's nothing doing here. And then we get maybe the

0:42:27.400 --> 0:42:31.200
<v Speaker 4>most heartbreaking scene in the entire film, a scene where

0:42:31.280 --> 0:42:35.280
<v Speaker 4>Yanosh writes a letter to his love back home to Maria,

0:42:35.880 --> 0:42:39.600
<v Speaker 4>which we see part of it translated into English, and

0:42:39.640 --> 0:42:42.320
<v Speaker 4>the part we see says, I must hurt you, dear Maria,

0:42:42.520 --> 0:42:45.279
<v Speaker 4>just once, then you can forget me forever. I have

0:42:45.400 --> 0:42:47.839
<v Speaker 4>met a girl, a very pretty girl. We are going

0:42:47.880 --> 0:42:53.120
<v Speaker 4>to be married. Goodbye, Maria, forgive and forget Janosh. Obviously

0:42:53.200 --> 0:42:56.120
<v Speaker 4>this is not true, but he can't face her now,

0:42:56.160 --> 0:42:58.520
<v Speaker 4>so he lies to make her move on with her life.

0:42:58.560 --> 0:42:59.560
<v Speaker 4>And this part is so.

0:42:59.680 --> 0:43:03.120
<v Speaker 2>Sad, absolutely heartbreaking. This one legitally made me tear up

0:43:03.480 --> 0:43:04.640
<v Speaker 2>when I was watching the picture.

0:43:05.040 --> 0:43:07.920
<v Speaker 4>But then we're going to get another slight reversal of fortune.

0:43:07.960 --> 0:43:10.240
<v Speaker 4>So here we come up on the scene where Yanosh

0:43:10.280 --> 0:43:14.319
<v Speaker 4>meets Dinky. Now, the setup to this scene visually is

0:43:14.640 --> 0:43:19.680
<v Speaker 4>very moody and beautiful. Yanosh is standing in his dark costume,

0:43:19.960 --> 0:43:23.720
<v Speaker 4>covered by the coat and the hat at the railing

0:43:23.800 --> 0:43:27.640
<v Speaker 4>of a concrete walkway overlooking the ocean, and the moonlight

0:43:27.920 --> 0:43:31.080
<v Speaker 4>reflects off of the water and casts these white ripples

0:43:31.120 --> 0:43:34.640
<v Speaker 4>across the whole scene. It seems to imply Yanosh is

0:43:34.680 --> 0:43:37.720
<v Speaker 4>thinking about jumping from the railing and ending his life,

0:43:37.760 --> 0:43:42.560
<v Speaker 4>but hope comes through a series of unusual events. So

0:43:42.600 --> 0:43:45.680
<v Speaker 4>a well dressed man approaches Yanosh to ask for a

0:43:45.719 --> 0:43:47.960
<v Speaker 4>match to light his cigar, and this is kind of

0:43:47.960 --> 0:43:50.080
<v Speaker 4>interesting in how it plays on the very first thing

0:43:50.120 --> 0:43:52.640
<v Speaker 4>we ever heard from Yanosh, when he walks up to

0:43:52.080 --> 0:43:54.400
<v Speaker 4>the guy working on the boat at the beginning and

0:43:54.440 --> 0:43:57.480
<v Speaker 4>asks for a match to practice his English. This guy

0:43:57.480 --> 0:43:59.520
<v Speaker 4>comes up to ask for a match, and then Yanosh

0:43:59.520 --> 0:44:01.439
<v Speaker 4>tries to get give him one, but when the man

0:44:01.520 --> 0:44:05.040
<v Speaker 4>sees Janosh's face up close, the cigar falls out of

0:44:05.040 --> 0:44:08.520
<v Speaker 4>his mouth and he runs away screaming. Suddenly, from out

0:44:08.520 --> 0:44:11.080
<v Speaker 4>of the shadows behind a bunch of crates and barrels

0:44:11.280 --> 0:44:14.279
<v Speaker 4>comes a third man, and this is Dinky, who's going

0:44:14.360 --> 0:44:17.879
<v Speaker 4>to become a major character. Dinky notices that the well

0:44:17.960 --> 0:44:20.640
<v Speaker 4>dressed man dropped his wallet as he was running away,

0:44:21.120 --> 0:44:24.040
<v Speaker 4>so he approaches Yanosh without fear. He picks up the

0:44:24.080 --> 0:44:27.239
<v Speaker 4>wallet and he's like, you know, oh, hey thought I

0:44:27.280 --> 0:44:29.360
<v Speaker 4>was a cop, didn't you. Well, let's see what Sandy

0:44:29.400 --> 0:44:32.080
<v Speaker 4>Claus left for us, And he starts going through the wallet.

0:44:32.719 --> 0:44:36.680
<v Speaker 4>And Dinky is a crook, but he's also instantly likable,

0:44:37.520 --> 0:44:40.080
<v Speaker 4>Like he gets the cash out of the wallet and

0:44:40.080 --> 0:44:42.680
<v Speaker 4>he's like, ah, what a cheap skate, only twelve bucks,

0:44:43.080 --> 0:44:45.920
<v Speaker 4>but he splits the cash with Yano. She gives him half.

0:44:46.719 --> 0:44:49.719
<v Speaker 4>So they introduce themselves to each other, and Dinky is

0:44:49.760 --> 0:44:53.560
<v Speaker 4>a little squirrely, but unlike everyone else, he doesn't react

0:44:53.560 --> 0:44:57.480
<v Speaker 4>with horror at Yanosh's face. Instead, he treats him like

0:44:57.520 --> 0:45:00.400
<v Speaker 4>a friend, like when Yanosh is like, aren't you afraid

0:45:00.400 --> 0:45:03.600
<v Speaker 4>of me? And Dicky says, what your face? Ah, that's nothing,

0:45:04.400 --> 0:45:09.360
<v Speaker 4>And they start talking about Janosh's apparent thoughts of jumping

0:45:09.400 --> 0:45:11.560
<v Speaker 4>from the wall, and Dinky has has a kind of

0:45:11.680 --> 0:45:15.400
<v Speaker 4>casual way of bringing some cheer to the situation. He says,

0:45:15.719 --> 0:45:17.840
<v Speaker 4>what do you get out of being dead lying around

0:45:17.880 --> 0:45:19.840
<v Speaker 4>in a grave? Ain't my idea of a good time?

0:45:20.520 --> 0:45:23.480
<v Speaker 4>And he's a sympathetic ear. Yano starts to tell him

0:45:23.520 --> 0:45:25.640
<v Speaker 4>about his troubles. No one will give him work and

0:45:25.680 --> 0:45:27.359
<v Speaker 4>no one will look him in the face or talk

0:45:27.440 --> 0:45:31.279
<v Speaker 4>to him, And Dinky says like, hey, I'm looking, I'm

0:45:31.320 --> 0:45:33.399
<v Speaker 4>looking at you, I'm talking to you. Let me take

0:45:33.400 --> 0:45:35.560
<v Speaker 4>you out for a hot meal. So he takes him

0:45:35.600 --> 0:45:38.359
<v Speaker 4>to eat and takes him back to the hotel where

0:45:38.360 --> 0:45:41.120
<v Speaker 4>he's crashing, and they start to become fast friends.

0:45:41.760 --> 0:45:44.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Dinky almost has kind of a what a run

0:45:44.160 --> 0:45:46.799
<v Speaker 2>and ask Zen quality to him. You know, he lives

0:45:46.920 --> 0:45:47.520
<v Speaker 2>very much.

0:45:47.360 --> 0:45:49.000
<v Speaker 3>In the moment, that's right.

0:45:49.120 --> 0:45:52.120
<v Speaker 4>So back at Dinky's place, Dinky's like having a bath

0:45:52.320 --> 0:45:55.360
<v Speaker 4>and sermonizing to Yanosh about his life philosophy.

0:45:55.480 --> 0:45:58.600
<v Speaker 2>Oh and by Dinky's place, we mean a hotel room

0:45:58.600 --> 0:46:00.640
<v Speaker 2>that they were able to pay for for just one night,

0:46:00.960 --> 0:46:03.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, because again, Dinky lives in the moment, is

0:46:03.480 --> 0:46:04.640
<v Speaker 2>one night at a time, you know.

0:46:04.840 --> 0:46:09.200
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's right. Yeah, So Dinky says, I've been on

0:46:09.239 --> 0:46:11.840
<v Speaker 4>my own since I was fifteen. I learned my lesson early.

0:46:11.920 --> 0:46:14.320
<v Speaker 4>You got to go for the free rides in this world.

0:46:14.360 --> 0:46:17.160
<v Speaker 4>You got to grab everything you can for yourself before

0:46:17.200 --> 0:46:20.360
<v Speaker 4>somebody else grabs it first. Only don't get too greedy.

0:46:20.480 --> 0:46:22.879
<v Speaker 4>I grabbed one thing too many once and got free

0:46:22.920 --> 0:46:26.440
<v Speaker 4>room and board in a reform school. And Yano says,

0:46:26.440 --> 0:46:29.680
<v Speaker 4>what you stole, And Dinky says, well, that's what they

0:46:29.760 --> 0:46:33.080
<v Speaker 4>called it, And Yano's just like, but Dinky, it is

0:46:33.120 --> 0:46:36.400
<v Speaker 4>wrong to steal. You can't do wrong and find happiness

0:46:36.440 --> 0:46:39.560
<v Speaker 4>in life. And here there was big like Loupita from

0:46:39.680 --> 0:46:40.800
<v Speaker 4>Santa Claus energy.

0:46:41.320 --> 0:46:47.520
<v Speaker 2>Yes, absolutely, yeah, yeah. The morality play aspects of this

0:46:47.560 --> 0:46:50.680
<v Speaker 2>picture very interesting because it's like the police in this

0:46:50.760 --> 0:46:56.040
<v Speaker 2>picture are absolutely good. Criminals can go either way. And

0:46:56.880 --> 0:46:59.200
<v Speaker 2>then of course Janosh, at least at this portion, in

0:46:59.200 --> 0:47:01.120
<v Speaker 2>this portion of the picture is very much of the

0:47:01.200 --> 0:47:03.320
<v Speaker 2>idea that like there is an absolute right and wrong,

0:47:03.440 --> 0:47:05.520
<v Speaker 2>there is a firm line between the two, there is

0:47:05.560 --> 0:47:08.719
<v Speaker 2>no gray area, and you cannot cross over that line.

0:47:09.120 --> 0:47:12.280
<v Speaker 4>Really, it's funny. Yeah, the cops in the movie are good,

0:47:12.320 --> 0:47:15.040
<v Speaker 4>even though I expected them to be crooked. The criminals

0:47:15.040 --> 0:47:18.960
<v Speaker 4>are a mix. The really like bad lot are hiring managers.

0:47:19.239 --> 0:47:22.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And they cast a bit of

0:47:22.200 --> 0:47:24.880
<v Speaker 2>shade too on the guy who dropped the wallet. I

0:47:24.920 --> 0:47:27.560
<v Speaker 2>think they were they prefer to him being like a

0:47:27.560 --> 0:47:28.680
<v Speaker 2>Wall Street guy or something.

0:47:28.800 --> 0:47:28.960
<v Speaker 3>Right.

0:47:29.320 --> 0:47:31.680
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Dinky's attitude is like, what is he going to

0:47:31.719 --> 0:47:33.960
<v Speaker 4>come back for this money? He's not gonna miss it. Yeah,

0:47:34.520 --> 0:47:37.280
<v Speaker 4>But Dinky also explains it's not like he really wants

0:47:37.360 --> 0:47:40.759
<v Speaker 4>to be in a life of crime the way he

0:47:40.800 --> 0:47:42.560
<v Speaker 4>thinks about it. He says, what do you get out

0:47:42.560 --> 0:47:44.640
<v Speaker 4>of going straight? I tried to go straight six or

0:47:44.680 --> 0:47:48.240
<v Speaker 4>seven times, but something always went wrong, something always happened.

0:47:48.840 --> 0:47:51.880
<v Speaker 4>So we sort of get the picture forming that Dinky

0:47:51.960 --> 0:47:55.520
<v Speaker 4>is a small time crook, but he's not really malicious.

0:47:55.719 --> 0:47:58.480
<v Speaker 4>He's kind of a sweetheart, and he keeps trying to

0:47:58.880 --> 0:48:02.279
<v Speaker 4>set things right. You find out that he's got a

0:48:02.320 --> 0:48:05.320
<v Speaker 4>mother living out on a farm in the Midwest, hoping

0:48:05.360 --> 0:48:08.319
<v Speaker 4>he'll come home sometime, and he keeps meaning to save

0:48:08.440 --> 0:48:10.239
<v Speaker 4>up some money so he can take some money and

0:48:10.280 --> 0:48:12.280
<v Speaker 4>go back to her and help her buy a chicken

0:48:12.360 --> 0:48:15.200
<v Speaker 4>ranch she's always dreamed of and work on the ranch

0:48:15.239 --> 0:48:19.000
<v Speaker 4>with his mom. And it seems it's a really sweet intention,

0:48:19.160 --> 0:48:21.600
<v Speaker 4>but he just never manages to get it together, often

0:48:21.640 --> 0:48:24.839
<v Speaker 4>because of stuff outside of his control, like he They

0:48:24.840 --> 0:48:27.000
<v Speaker 4>never say exactly what it is, but it's implied that

0:48:27.080 --> 0:48:30.759
<v Speaker 4>Dinky has some kind of chronic disease that occasionally flares up,

0:48:31.160 --> 0:48:32.759
<v Speaker 4>and then he gets sick and asks to go to

0:48:32.760 --> 0:48:35.520
<v Speaker 4>the hospital, which in the past has caused him to

0:48:35.680 --> 0:48:38.480
<v Speaker 4>lose whatever legitimate job he had at the time. So

0:48:38.520 --> 0:48:40.279
<v Speaker 4>then when he gets out of the hospital, he has

0:48:40.320 --> 0:48:43.880
<v Speaker 4>to do crime again. Yeah, So they compare their attitudes.

0:48:43.960 --> 0:48:47.840
<v Speaker 4>Janosh is now very hopeless and fatalistic about his situation

0:48:47.960 --> 0:48:53.080
<v Speaker 4>in life. Dinky is relatively carefree. He says, Yanosh's like,

0:48:53.120 --> 0:48:54.880
<v Speaker 4>what's going to happen when we run out of the

0:48:54.920 --> 0:48:58.360
<v Speaker 4>money that we got tonight? Dinky's like, eh, you know,

0:48:58.440 --> 0:49:01.400
<v Speaker 4>something else always comes along. He mentions that he has

0:49:01.440 --> 0:49:05.080
<v Speaker 4>an associate named Jeff. This will be Jeffrey Jeff Jeffries

0:49:06.000 --> 0:49:08.719
<v Speaker 4>who is doing a stretch up the river, like doing

0:49:08.760 --> 0:49:11.319
<v Speaker 4>time in prison, and when he when he gets out,

0:49:11.360 --> 0:49:14.640
<v Speaker 4>he will have plenty of jobs for the both of them. Yanosh,

0:49:14.880 --> 0:49:19.040
<v Speaker 4>not fully understanding the criminal implications here, is like, oh, boy, jobs,

0:49:20.360 --> 0:49:23.719
<v Speaker 4>and he goes to sleep dreaming that things will turn up.

0:49:32.680 --> 0:49:38.080
<v Speaker 4>So Dinky and Janosh who Dinky calls Janosh Johnny. They

0:49:38.080 --> 0:49:40.640
<v Speaker 4>go on living in cheaper and cheaper motels. You see

0:49:40.640 --> 0:49:43.760
<v Speaker 4>a kind of montage of the four rent signs getting

0:49:43.880 --> 0:49:47.560
<v Speaker 4>lower and lower prices, until finally they get thrown out

0:49:47.600 --> 0:49:50.799
<v Speaker 4>of a real flea bag and they're living in a junkyard.

0:49:50.920 --> 0:49:53.520
<v Speaker 4>And Dinky at this point he's had some kind of

0:49:53.560 --> 0:49:56.360
<v Speaker 4>health flare up. He's sick and in need of a doctor.

0:49:57.239 --> 0:49:59.800
<v Speaker 4>And here is where the plot takes a turn. Dinky

0:49:59.920 --> 0:50:02.480
<v Speaker 4>is supposed to go out on a job tonight, but

0:50:02.600 --> 0:50:05.520
<v Speaker 4>he's too sick, and he sends janoshoff to tell his

0:50:05.560 --> 0:50:07.680
<v Speaker 4>associates that he's not going to be able to be

0:50:07.760 --> 0:50:12.239
<v Speaker 4>there to do the job. Instead of that, Yanosh goes

0:50:12.280 --> 0:50:16.000
<v Speaker 4>to his associates and pulls the job off in Dinky stead,

0:50:16.600 --> 0:50:19.080
<v Speaker 4>and we learned that the job was straight up crime.

0:50:19.239 --> 0:50:21.680
<v Speaker 4>It was cracking into a safe and pulling off a

0:50:21.760 --> 0:50:25.080
<v Speaker 4>jewel heist. I think we're to assume, you know, they

0:50:25.160 --> 0:50:28.560
<v Speaker 4>talked multiple times before about how Yanosh has skilled hands.

0:50:28.600 --> 0:50:31.200
<v Speaker 4>He has mechanical skill with his hands, so I think

0:50:31.200 --> 0:50:34.120
<v Speaker 4>we're to assume that these skills transferred, you know, his

0:50:34.280 --> 0:50:37.960
<v Speaker 4>watchmaker skills were transferable to opening a locked safe.

0:50:38.239 --> 0:50:41.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's got that eighteen dexterity, so he's able to

0:50:41.480 --> 0:50:44.760
<v Speaker 2>get in there and break into some space. But yeah,

0:50:44.880 --> 0:50:49.280
<v Speaker 2>we don't see this heist, this, this this safe cracking

0:50:49.360 --> 0:50:53.480
<v Speaker 2>scene at all. It's missing, Yeah, scene, absolutely missing it.

0:50:54.040 --> 0:50:55.600
<v Speaker 2>I would have loved to have seen it, like I

0:50:55.640 --> 0:50:59.400
<v Speaker 2>wanted to. I wanted to see like the gears turning

0:50:59.440 --> 0:51:02.120
<v Speaker 2>and Yanosh his head as he realizes like what this

0:51:02.280 --> 0:51:05.560
<v Speaker 2>job is, as he you know, actually you know, gets

0:51:05.560 --> 0:51:08.360
<v Speaker 2>the determination together to go ahead and pull it off,

0:51:08.520 --> 0:51:12.759
<v Speaker 2>like this seems like a great dramatic sequence that I

0:51:12.960 --> 0:51:15.319
<v Speaker 2>guess it was just never filmed, And I don't know

0:51:15.320 --> 0:51:17.560
<v Speaker 2>what the full story is here. If they never intended to,

0:51:17.680 --> 0:51:19.759
<v Speaker 2>it's just that's not the sort of picture it is,

0:51:19.880 --> 0:51:21.680
<v Speaker 2>or if it's something they were going to film and

0:51:21.680 --> 0:51:23.480
<v Speaker 2>didn't have the funds for, I don't know.

0:51:24.360 --> 0:51:26.239
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I don't know. I would have liked to see

0:51:26.239 --> 0:51:28.680
<v Speaker 4>it too. But anyway, Yanosh makes so much money from

0:51:28.719 --> 0:51:31.880
<v Speaker 4>the job he is able to take Dinky to the

0:51:31.960 --> 0:51:34.840
<v Speaker 4>doctor and get medicine to make him better. So Dinky's

0:51:34.880 --> 0:51:38.520
<v Speaker 4>recovering now. But while he's he's in bed and Iyanosh

0:51:38.640 --> 0:51:40.640
<v Speaker 4>is there by his side. Some tough guys show up

0:51:40.680 --> 0:51:44.640
<v Speaker 4>to demand money that Dinky owes them, and they're like, Hey,

0:51:44.680 --> 0:51:46.959
<v Speaker 4>this new guy's real good. Let's put him to work.

0:51:48.680 --> 0:51:51.480
<v Speaker 4>Just another note, This doesn't feel like a comment on

0:51:51.560 --> 0:51:54.160
<v Speaker 4>their character, or at least on an intentional one. But

0:51:54.320 --> 0:51:57.120
<v Speaker 4>I should note that the other criminals also do not

0:51:57.200 --> 0:51:59.920
<v Speaker 4>seem phased by Janosh's scars the way that like any

0:52:00.040 --> 0:52:02.239
<v Speaker 4>buddy who's offering a legitimate job does.

0:52:02.920 --> 0:52:05.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is interesting, isn't it. I hadn't really thought

0:52:05.239 --> 0:52:07.520
<v Speaker 2>about this as much. But they they just see the

0:52:07.800 --> 0:52:10.279
<v Speaker 2>dollar signs. They're like, Oh, this guy can crack a

0:52:10.320 --> 0:52:13.440
<v Speaker 2>safe and in no time. Well, yeah, of course we

0:52:13.480 --> 0:52:16.080
<v Speaker 2>want to keep doing business with him. Yeah, but in

0:52:16.160 --> 0:52:21.359
<v Speaker 2>ways that other like legitimate businesses, refuse to consider on

0:52:21.400 --> 0:52:24.040
<v Speaker 2>all these job interviews he was going for and so forth.

0:52:24.920 --> 0:52:28.000
<v Speaker 4>Anyway, so the path is now on offer. They can

0:52:28.080 --> 0:52:30.719
<v Speaker 4>keep lining up more jobs for yanoshan he can make

0:52:30.760 --> 0:52:34.399
<v Speaker 4>them all filthy rich. Now Janosh initially does not want this.

0:52:34.440 --> 0:52:37.320
<v Speaker 4>He still thinks it is wrong to steal, but Dinky

0:52:37.560 --> 0:52:40.440
<v Speaker 4>knows how to make the appeal to him. He's like, Janosh,

0:52:40.520 --> 0:52:42.520
<v Speaker 4>I know what you want more than anything else in

0:52:42.560 --> 0:52:45.600
<v Speaker 4>the world. You want your face back. And there are

0:52:45.640 --> 0:52:48.000
<v Speaker 4>these people out there called I think he calls them

0:52:48.040 --> 0:52:52.239
<v Speaker 4>plastic doctors. He's talking about plastic surgeons. He says, if

0:52:52.280 --> 0:52:54.960
<v Speaker 4>you have enough money, they can they can give you

0:52:54.960 --> 0:52:58.960
<v Speaker 4>your old face back. And Yanosh is entranced.

0:52:58.520 --> 0:52:59.200
<v Speaker 3>By this idea.

0:52:59.280 --> 0:53:01.480
<v Speaker 4>He's like, really, I didn't even know that was possible.

0:53:02.360 --> 0:53:04.319
<v Speaker 4>So he says, could they fix my face so that

0:53:04.360 --> 0:53:06.920
<v Speaker 4>people can look at me? And Dinky says, all you

0:53:07.040 --> 0:53:11.439
<v Speaker 4>need is money, So it's impossible for Janosh to resist. Now,

0:53:11.480 --> 0:53:14.200
<v Speaker 4>a new face would be a new life. So he's like, okay,

0:53:14.440 --> 0:53:15.960
<v Speaker 4>crime me up, I will do crime.

0:53:16.480 --> 0:53:19.719
<v Speaker 2>This bit of dialogue between Dinky and Janosh, it really

0:53:19.719 --> 0:53:21.799
<v Speaker 2>feels like the heart of the picture, And it's the

0:53:21.800 --> 0:53:24.839
<v Speaker 2>part of the picture that I feel like gives us

0:53:24.840 --> 0:53:27.640
<v Speaker 2>the most to chew on and figuring out what its

0:53:27.680 --> 0:53:30.920
<v Speaker 2>message is. You know, this bit where he's saying it's

0:53:30.960 --> 0:53:33.200
<v Speaker 2>being done every day. Yeah, all you have to have

0:53:33.280 --> 0:53:36.279
<v Speaker 2>is money, you know, buying yourself a new face and

0:53:36.320 --> 0:53:39.360
<v Speaker 2>so forth. Yeah, it's a lot to chew on. It's

0:53:39.400 --> 0:53:44.520
<v Speaker 2>really it's as if Dinky is really opening Janosh's eyes

0:53:44.920 --> 0:53:47.960
<v Speaker 2>to the real American dream, Like, here is the real America,

0:53:48.280 --> 0:53:49.879
<v Speaker 2>and this is how you climb here.

0:53:50.320 --> 0:53:53.640
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. So there's a scene where Yanosh goes to visit

0:53:53.680 --> 0:53:56.520
<v Speaker 4>the plastic surgeon, but unfortunate once he gets there, the

0:53:56.560 --> 0:53:59.680
<v Speaker 4>answer isn't as straightforward as Dinky led him to believe.

0:54:02.160 --> 0:54:07.160
<v Speaker 4>It's interesting the surgeon isn't presented as giving him giving

0:54:07.280 --> 0:54:11.360
<v Speaker 4>him impossible promises. Instead, the surgeon seems to be fairly

0:54:11.400 --> 0:54:16.040
<v Speaker 4>measured in his initial analysis. He's like, well, I'll need

0:54:16.080 --> 0:54:19.240
<v Speaker 4>to consult another doctor from the practice and compare notes,

0:54:19.280 --> 0:54:22.239
<v Speaker 4>but we think full reconstructive surgery would be expensive and

0:54:22.320 --> 0:54:25.880
<v Speaker 4>protracted might not be possible at all. In the meantime,

0:54:25.960 --> 0:54:28.000
<v Speaker 4>I can make you a rubber mask of your old

0:54:28.080 --> 0:54:31.480
<v Speaker 4>face based on your passport photo, and the mask will

0:54:31.520 --> 0:54:34.080
<v Speaker 4>serve until we can, you know, do a full rundown

0:54:34.320 --> 0:54:36.239
<v Speaker 4>and see what the prospects for surgery are.

0:54:36.920 --> 0:54:37.120
<v Speaker 3>Yep.

0:54:37.239 --> 0:54:39.360
<v Speaker 2>So Janosh is like, mask me up. Let's go with

0:54:39.400 --> 0:54:41.520
<v Speaker 2>the mask and then I'll come back for that next apployment.

0:54:41.760 --> 0:54:44.839
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the mask will also be expensive. So Yanosh does

0:54:44.880 --> 0:54:49.000
<v Speaker 4>have to do more crimes. So he goes from reluctant

0:54:49.040 --> 0:54:52.799
<v Speaker 4>safe cracker to just NonStop crime boss. He not only

0:54:52.920 --> 0:54:56.800
<v Speaker 4>it becomes a safe cracker, he takes over the gang

0:54:57.000 --> 0:54:59.000
<v Speaker 4>like he all the you know, the tough guys who

0:54:59.000 --> 0:55:01.400
<v Speaker 4>were showing up at Dinky's, now they're all working for

0:55:02.480 --> 0:55:05.319
<v Speaker 4>Janosh and he pulls off highest after heist, we get

0:55:05.320 --> 0:55:08.960
<v Speaker 4>the newspaper headlines, scenes of the police getting chewed out

0:55:08.960 --> 0:55:12.160
<v Speaker 4>by their superiors because they can't catch this criminal mastermind.

0:55:12.880 --> 0:55:14.840
<v Speaker 4>In fact, it seems like the main detective on the

0:55:14.840 --> 0:55:17.520
<v Speaker 4>case is Yanosh's old friend, Lieutenant O'Hara.

0:55:18.480 --> 0:55:19.239
<v Speaker 3>Of course, it is.

0:55:21.000 --> 0:55:23.799
<v Speaker 4>Also somewhere along this process Yanosh ends up not only

0:55:23.840 --> 0:55:26.560
<v Speaker 4>with a lot of money, but ends up with an airplane,

0:55:26.600 --> 0:55:29.240
<v Speaker 4>or at least flying an airplane, like he They mentioned

0:55:29.320 --> 0:55:31.600
<v Speaker 4>multiple times that he goes out flying an airplane.

0:55:32.000 --> 0:55:34.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, so's he has become the boss. He's running

0:55:34.840 --> 0:55:39.080
<v Speaker 2>this entire operation. And we'll get some more of crime

0:55:39.120 --> 0:55:41.799
<v Speaker 2>Boss Janosh. But this is another part of the picture

0:55:41.800 --> 0:55:44.319
<v Speaker 2>where it's like I really wanted more. I needed like

0:55:44.360 --> 0:55:48.560
<v Speaker 2>another solid twenty minutes of Yanos just being the boss,

0:55:49.320 --> 0:55:52.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, enforcing his will, being a little scary with people,

0:55:52.840 --> 0:55:55.560
<v Speaker 2>and so forth. We get all that, but you know,

0:55:55.600 --> 0:55:56.759
<v Speaker 2>it just leaves you wanting more.

0:55:57.239 --> 0:55:59.560
<v Speaker 4>Now next to I'm sure we're all dying to see

0:55:59.560 --> 0:56:02.160
<v Speaker 4>the mass. Well, we do get to see it, and

0:56:02.360 --> 0:56:04.600
<v Speaker 4>of course when we finally see it, it is a

0:56:04.600 --> 0:56:07.120
<v Speaker 4>bit creepy, because I guess a realistic mask sort of

0:56:07.160 --> 0:56:10.400
<v Speaker 4>always is. But I'll also say it's not bad for

0:56:10.440 --> 0:56:12.759
<v Speaker 4>a nineteen forties mask, Like I can tell that it

0:56:12.840 --> 0:56:14.160
<v Speaker 4>is supposed to be Peter Lourie.

0:56:15.320 --> 0:56:19.600
<v Speaker 2>It looks better than some decapitated head effects I've seen

0:56:19.640 --> 0:56:19.960
<v Speaker 2>for sure.

0:56:20.040 --> 0:56:22.759
<v Speaker 4>Yes, And then when he puts it on. You were

0:56:22.760 --> 0:56:26.080
<v Speaker 4>talking about this earlier rob so when he puts the

0:56:26.160 --> 0:56:30.439
<v Speaker 4>mask on, we go back to the cameras showing Peter

0:56:30.600 --> 0:56:34.319
<v Speaker 4>Laurie's face again, but now his skin looks tight and

0:56:34.360 --> 0:56:38.560
<v Speaker 4>sort of pinched up and unnatural. I don't know exactly

0:56:38.560 --> 0:56:40.960
<v Speaker 4>how they accomplished this effect. I guess it's some kind

0:56:41.000 --> 0:56:44.240
<v Speaker 4>of makeup effect, because ironically, the mask we're now seeing

0:56:44.280 --> 0:56:46.920
<v Speaker 4>I believe is just Peter Laurie's real face, but with

0:56:47.040 --> 0:56:48.880
<v Speaker 4>some makeup and manipulations.

0:56:49.160 --> 0:56:49.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:56:49.560 --> 0:56:51.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like I say, it kind of like smooths him

0:56:51.320 --> 0:56:55.960
<v Speaker 2>out a bit more and gives him this slightly uncanny appearance.

0:56:56.480 --> 0:56:58.840
<v Speaker 4>It's like Peter Laurie with an intense face lift.

0:56:59.200 --> 0:56:59.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:57:00.360 --> 0:57:03.040
<v Speaker 4>After this, there's this one sequence where they pull off

0:57:03.080 --> 0:57:06.399
<v Speaker 4>some kind of opera robbery I'm not sure I didn't

0:57:06.480 --> 0:57:09.520
<v Speaker 4>fully get the details here, but it involves an opera

0:57:09.840 --> 0:57:12.440
<v Speaker 4>and then like going to the opera and like looking

0:57:12.480 --> 0:57:14.760
<v Speaker 4>at each other during a certain time in the show,

0:57:14.880 --> 0:57:17.200
<v Speaker 4>and then we just see like I think an orchestra

0:57:17.280 --> 0:57:19.480
<v Speaker 4>conductor tied up and they've got a bunch of money.

0:57:19.880 --> 0:57:21.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, I guess so they didn't have access

0:57:21.720 --> 0:57:22.960
<v Speaker 2>to montage technology.

0:57:25.160 --> 0:57:25.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay.

0:57:26.360 --> 0:57:28.360
<v Speaker 4>But anyway, while the gang is counting up all their

0:57:28.360 --> 0:57:31.040
<v Speaker 4>money from the opera heist, they are interrupted by a

0:57:31.080 --> 0:57:34.920
<v Speaker 4>real nasty customer. Remember old Jeff we heard about earlier,

0:57:35.280 --> 0:57:39.520
<v Speaker 4>Jeff Jeffrey. Jeffrey's well, anyway, he's out of prison now,

0:57:39.560 --> 0:57:42.960
<v Speaker 4>and he wanders into the gang's counting room with a

0:57:43.000 --> 0:57:46.760
<v Speaker 4>gun and insists he's in charge now. Jeff says, we're

0:57:46.760 --> 0:57:49.480
<v Speaker 4>gonna live just as swell. Only one thing will change.

0:57:49.520 --> 0:57:53.840
<v Speaker 4>We don't need him appointing at yanosh Ooh but then twist,

0:57:53.880 --> 0:57:56.520
<v Speaker 4>I didn't see this coming. Peter Lorie like muscles this

0:57:56.640 --> 0:57:59.400
<v Speaker 4>much bigger guy. He slaps him around. He's like, I'm

0:57:59.440 --> 0:58:00.160
<v Speaker 4>in charge now.

0:58:00.880 --> 0:58:03.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is great. It's very much like little dog

0:58:05.240 --> 0:58:07.600
<v Speaker 2>putting a bigger dog in its place. Sort of energy

0:58:07.640 --> 0:58:10.280
<v Speaker 2>here and you know, Laurie brings it like he makes

0:58:10.280 --> 0:58:12.800
<v Speaker 2>you believe it, like seconds before it OCCURR. You feel

0:58:12.840 --> 0:58:14.520
<v Speaker 2>like something like that is going to have to happen

0:58:15.720 --> 0:58:19.440
<v Speaker 2>in order to put Jeff in his place. But if

0:58:19.520 --> 0:58:21.280
<v Speaker 2>you're like, I don't know if LORI can do it. No,

0:58:21.440 --> 0:58:22.720
<v Speaker 2>he totally did it. He pulled it off.

0:58:22.720 --> 0:58:23.280
<v Speaker 3>I believe it.

0:58:23.640 --> 0:58:27.120
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And so I think the line he says is

0:58:27.160 --> 0:58:30.480
<v Speaker 4>these were your boys, their mine. Now we can all

0:58:30.480 --> 0:58:32.640
<v Speaker 4>be friends. If you want to play friendly, it's up

0:58:32.720 --> 0:58:35.880
<v Speaker 4>to you. So Jeff cools his attitude and he gets

0:58:35.880 --> 0:58:38.520
<v Speaker 4>absorbed into the gang. But you can see in this

0:58:38.640 --> 0:58:41.240
<v Speaker 4>scene that he's he's swallowing his pride for the moment,

0:58:41.320 --> 0:58:43.800
<v Speaker 4>but it might not be going away. He's he's still

0:58:43.800 --> 0:58:45.080
<v Speaker 4>hanging on to a grudge.

0:58:45.520 --> 0:58:47.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so this is this is a great scene. So

0:58:47.280 --> 0:58:50.480
<v Speaker 2>this Janosh in his villain era here, it's tremendous.

0:58:51.360 --> 0:58:54.320
<v Speaker 4>So some more plot developments. Janosh goes back to a

0:58:54.400 --> 0:58:58.000
<v Speaker 4>follow up appointment with his plastic surgeons, and during this

0:58:58.080 --> 0:59:01.000
<v Speaker 4>appointment they explain, you know, after really looking at things,

0:59:01.240 --> 0:59:04.800
<v Speaker 4>we cannot, in good conscience recommend an operation to you

0:59:05.440 --> 0:59:08.520
<v Speaker 4>because your burns are too extensive, too severe to be repaired.

0:59:08.880 --> 0:59:09.880
<v Speaker 3>They say, you.

0:59:09.760 --> 0:59:11.720
<v Speaker 4>Know, if it's possible at all, it would take like

0:59:11.800 --> 0:59:14.960
<v Speaker 4>thirty operations over fifteen years to even really give you

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<v Speaker 4>a chance of looking like your old self.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we get that great bit of that great line

0:59:20.320 --> 0:59:24.240
<v Speaker 2>from Jano. Schrez just repeats that. He just says, fifteen years.

0:59:24.560 --> 0:59:27.160
<v Speaker 2>You know, is it really sinks in that this path

0:59:27.160 --> 0:59:29.200
<v Speaker 2>that he's chosen for himself, that he's picked up is

0:59:29.560 --> 0:59:34.280
<v Speaker 2>a temporary change to get back on track is a

0:59:34.360 --> 0:59:38.360
<v Speaker 2>long term track apparently, and potentially the rest of his life.

0:59:38.680 --> 0:59:41.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, to him, it means fifteen years of crime.

0:59:42.280 --> 0:59:43.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So Janosh is furious, but on his way out of

0:59:45.840 --> 0:59:48.400
<v Speaker 4>the building, he has a chance encounter that will change

0:59:48.400 --> 0:59:51.440
<v Speaker 4>his life. Yet again, we keep having these reversals of

0:59:52.440 --> 0:59:55.320
<v Speaker 4>fortune here. So he bumps into a woman on the

0:59:55.400 --> 0:59:59.760
<v Speaker 4>sidewalk and makes her drop all her things. And this

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<v Speaker 4>is the romantic meat cute in the middle of the

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<v Speaker 4>film noir about a good man's desperate and hellish descent

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<v Speaker 4>into crime. It's a strange change of tone, but this

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<v Speaker 4>character is the one we mentioned earlier. Helen, played by

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<v Speaker 4>Evelyn Keys. Helen is blind and works as a jewelry maker,

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<v Speaker 4>stringing necklaces I think she does. She string them for

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<v Speaker 4>a department.

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<v Speaker 3>Store, I believe so.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah, and she was transporting project boxes when they

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<v Speaker 4>ran into each other on the sidewalk. Helen is friendly

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<v Speaker 4>and she's funny and optimistic, and her positivity just cuts

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<v Speaker 4>through the gloom of the story like a laser. Janosh

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<v Speaker 4>is instinctively rude to her at first because he's feeling

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<v Speaker 4>so bad, but he quickly softens and he helps her

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<v Speaker 4>pick up her things. And in this scene, I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know if you noticed the same thing, Rob, but you

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<v Speaker 4>can hear in Peter Lourie's vocal performance his voice changes

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<v Speaker 4>as as he became the crime boss. His voice changed

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<v Speaker 4>to become very tight and gruff. That uses this tight,

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<v Speaker 4>gruff voice with his gangster accomplices, but when he talks

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<v Speaker 4>to Helen, he quickly starts to sound more like he

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<v Speaker 4>did at the beginning of the movie when he first

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<v Speaker 4>arrived in America, with a softer, higher pitched voice.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, yeah. It reawakens the old Janos share.

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<v Speaker 4>So Yanosh offers to walk with her and carry her things,

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<v Speaker 4>and she accepts, and so they go back to her

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<v Speaker 4>apartment and they get to know one another. Helen talks

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<v Speaker 4>about how she enjoys living independently. She likes keeping up

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<v Speaker 4>her apartment and listening to music on the radio from

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<v Speaker 4>the neighbor's next door, and she's so charming it is

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<v Speaker 4>easy to see why Janosh's crime boss heart is melting.

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<v Speaker 4>Will probably come as no shock that this is the

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<v Speaker 4>beginning of a romance story. He asks if he can

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<v Speaker 4>come back and visit her sometime, and she says she'd

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<v Speaker 4>like that. So the two of them get to know

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<v Speaker 4>each other, they become friends. The love story blossoms. They

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<v Speaker 4>spend lots of time together and one day they go

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<v Speaker 4>out walking in the country among the oak trees. Here,

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<v Speaker 4>Helen gives this monologue sort of sharing her perspective on life.

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<v Speaker 4>Why she's so optimistic and has such a sense of

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<v Speaker 4>good humor about everything, And she explains from her point

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<v Speaker 4>of view, being blind, she's able to find beauty in

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<v Speaker 4>things more easily, So she says, like, you know, when

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<v Speaker 4>I feel the fur, even of a scrawny alley cat,

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<v Speaker 4>I can imagine it's the most regal beast. Or just

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<v Speaker 4>by putting one fresh flower in a jar in my apartment,

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like I'm living in a spring meadow. And

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<v Speaker 4>this already kind of interfaces with stuff she said earlier

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<v Speaker 4>about how much pleasure she gets in listening to the radio.

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<v Speaker 3>Yano.

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<v Speaker 4>She gave her her own radio as a gift sometime earlier,

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<v Speaker 4>and she loves the music, of course, but she even

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<v Speaker 4>finds pleasure in the advertisements, like even if she's not

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<v Speaker 4>interested in the product they're selling, she just likes listening

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<v Speaker 4>to the enthusiastic appeals of friendly strangers.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and she likes her work. It's mentioned in one

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<v Speaker 2>of these bits from her talks about like she enjoys

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<v Speaker 2>listening to the radio and beating you.

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<v Speaker 4>Know, yeah, Yano. She's so taken with her way of

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<v Speaker 4>seeing the good and everything. And he says he wishes

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<v Speaker 4>he could see the world the way she does, he

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<v Speaker 4>would imagine himself as a noble king. But she's like, dude,

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<v Speaker 4>you are a king. You are unselfish and thoughtful, and

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<v Speaker 4>that's the most noble thing of all. And during the scene,

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<v Speaker 4>Yanosh breaks down, he starts to cry, and he says

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<v Speaker 4>that if she were able to see his burned face,

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<v Speaker 4>the face behind the mask, the title of the film,

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<v Speaker 4>she would run away and terror like everybody else.

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<v Speaker 3>But she rejects this.

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<v Speaker 4>She wants to know what he's been hiding, what's troubling him,

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<v Speaker 4>and invites him to tell his story.

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<v Speaker 3>So he does.

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<v Speaker 4>He relents, and he tells her his whole history, everything

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<v Speaker 4>that happened, though he tells her off screen, as many

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<v Speaker 4>pivotal scenes they do take place off screen. Though I

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<v Speaker 4>guess this is a common This is a fair thing.

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<v Speaker 4>We don't want to see a character recap the entire

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<v Speaker 4>film so far, that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>But there would have been some really emotional moments in

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<v Speaker 2>that we miss out on. But we know what's going

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<v Speaker 2>to happen. She is going to accept him for who

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<v Speaker 2>he is, and she sees the true face behind the mask.

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<v Speaker 2>She sees his heart.

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<v Speaker 4>That's right, and I guess that's the play on the title.

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<v Speaker 4>There are two different kinds of face behind the mask.

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<v Speaker 4>When Yanosh thinks of the face behind the mask, he

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<v Speaker 4>thinks of his scars, his physical face, and when she

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<v Speaker 4>thinks of it, she thinks of the real hymn, his

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<v Speaker 4>good heart.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So Yanosh's conscience is now awakened again by his love

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<v Speaker 4>for Helen, and he goes back to his gang and

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<v Speaker 4>is like, boys, I'm out, I'm going to clean my

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<v Speaker 4>whole act up and he is out of the life

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<v Speaker 4>of crime for good.

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<v Speaker 2>This always works. You can always walk away from a

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<v Speaker 2>life of crime. We know that from so many pictures.

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<v Speaker 4>Well it's funny because he tries to tell Jeff, like, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>you're going to get what you always wanted. Now the

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<v Speaker 4>boys are yours again. You're in charge now. But you

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<v Speaker 4>get the sense that Jeff maybe has enjoyed coasting on

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<v Speaker 4>Yanosh's crime skills and just sniping from the sidelines. Now

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<v Speaker 4>that he's in charge, he's mad.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, now Jeff will have to deliver as the

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<v Speaker 2>boss of this crew that has become accustomed to a

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<v Speaker 2>higher level of success. So, yeah, good luck, Jeff. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>see how this works out for you.

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<v Speaker 3>It's what he wanted.

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<v Speaker 4>But now that he has it, he's not happy. He's

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<v Speaker 4>just doing but he can't stop Yanosh from leaving. Yanosh

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<v Speaker 4>has a house out in the country and he plans

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<v Speaker 4>to move there with Helen. Yanosh gives his new address

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<v Speaker 4>to Dinky in secret and says, if you ever you know,

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<v Speaker 4>you ever need me, you ever want to get out

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<v Speaker 4>of the life, look me up here. So Yanosh and

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<v Speaker 4>Helen make their plans. They pack things up. They make

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<v Speaker 4>plans to move out to a house with green shutters.

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<v Speaker 4>They talk about this detail and Yanosh oh, he buys

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<v Speaker 4>a secondhand car, one with a radio because he knows

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<v Speaker 4>Helen likes to listen to the radio so much much. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 4>at crime headquarters, Jeff is stewing again. He got what

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<v Speaker 4>he wanted, but he's still angry. He starts digging around

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<v Speaker 4>through Yanosh's old things and he finds something curious. He

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<v Speaker 4>finds the business card of a police detective. This is

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<v Speaker 4>the card that O'Hara left for Yanosh in the hospital

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<v Speaker 4>way back when. But not understanding what it is, Jeff

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<v Speaker 4>jumps to a conclusion, and that conclusion is Yanosh wanted

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<v Speaker 4>out of the business because he is ratting the gang

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<v Speaker 4>out to the cops. And Jeff says, I figured it out.

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<v Speaker 4>We got to get revenge against Janosh.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, the cryptic nature of that original scrawl message, now

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<v Speaker 2>out of context, is interpreted to me, oh, Yanosh is

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<v Speaker 2>in a league with the police.

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<v Speaker 4>That's right. And here's where the potential happy ending turns

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<v Speaker 4>to tragedy, as it must in a movie like this.

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<v Speaker 4>Jeff and the gang find Dinky and they torture him

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<v Speaker 4>for information about where to find Yanosh. Finally they retned

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<v Speaker 4>to burn his feet in the fireplace, and he tells

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<v Speaker 4>where yan oshan Helen are hiding. So the next day

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<v Speaker 4>yan Oshan Helen and an adorable scruffy dog by the way,

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<v Speaker 4>really old dog, big cute dog. They move out to

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<v Speaker 4>their house in the country you never you know, and

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<v Speaker 4>they like settle in and everything's so happy. You never

1:07:20.440 --> 1:07:22.800
<v Speaker 4>want to be a movie character saying it's all so

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<v Speaker 4>perfect unless you're in the last like two minutes of

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<v Speaker 4>the film and I say, we have another fifteen twenty

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<v Speaker 4>to go here.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh oh, not good.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, they seem like this seems to be the dream, right,

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<v Speaker 2>the dog, the house. There's a scene though, where Janosh

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<v Speaker 2>tells Helen that she doesn't have to do her bead

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<v Speaker 2>work anymore because she'll have this house to run, And

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<v Speaker 2>part of me was kind of like, yeah, I know.

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<v Speaker 2>She she had this whole bit where she talked about

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<v Speaker 2>how much joy she derived.

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<v Speaker 3>From her work, but I likes it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a nineteen forty one film, it's supposed to be

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<v Speaker 2>well intended by it. But yeah, I think she can

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<v Speaker 2>still do her beadwork.

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<v Speaker 4>So everything is beautiful and till knock on the door

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<v Speaker 4>and it's Jeff. Jeff arrives and he makes menacing comments

1:08:05.720 --> 1:08:09.280
<v Speaker 4>to Yanosh. They have a confrontation, but it does not

1:08:09.520 --> 1:08:10.560
<v Speaker 4>escalate to violence.

1:08:11.000 --> 1:08:11.760
<v Speaker 3>He leaves.

1:08:11.800 --> 1:08:14.000
<v Speaker 4>He says like, I won't even waste a bullet on you.

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<v Speaker 4>But when he gets back to the car, when Jeff

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<v Speaker 4>gets back to the car with his boys, they revealed

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<v Speaker 4>that they had planted a bomb in Yanosh's car. It's

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<v Speaker 4>wired to the radio. And then the gangsters are driving

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<v Speaker 4>away and they conclude that they're done with Dinky, so

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<v Speaker 4>they throw him out of the moving car onto the highway.

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<v Speaker 4>It's unclear if they thought they had killed him or

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<v Speaker 4>if they meant to leave him alive. I wasn't sure

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<v Speaker 4>there did.

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<v Speaker 3>They shoot him first in the back.

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<v Speaker 4>Think so to hear like a you don't see a gun,

1:08:40.880 --> 1:08:43.000
<v Speaker 4>but you hear a gun sound effect. And then they

1:08:43.000 --> 1:08:45.479
<v Speaker 4>throw him out of the side of the car. But

1:08:45.560 --> 1:08:48.439
<v Speaker 4>Dinky manages, despite his injuries, to get to a nearby

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<v Speaker 4>service station and place a phone call. And then the

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<v Speaker 4>logistics of this climax scene get really complicated. Dinky calls

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<v Speaker 4>a neighbor of Janosh's. I guess Janosh and Helen don't

1:09:00.640 --> 1:09:03.599
<v Speaker 4>have a phone yet. He calls the neighbor. The neighbor

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<v Speaker 4>cranks his car up, drives to Yanosh's house, picks up

1:09:07.280 --> 1:09:10.840
<v Speaker 4>Yanosh drives him back to his house to take Dinky's call,

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<v Speaker 4>only for the call to be like, don't start your car, Yano,

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<v Speaker 4>she don't use your radio, And unfortunately it's a Godfather scenario,

1:09:19.720 --> 1:09:23.519
<v Speaker 4>you know, it's Apollonia in Sicily. Yanosh rushes back home

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<v Speaker 4>to stop Helen from using the car. But Helen, she's

1:09:26.520 --> 1:09:28.599
<v Speaker 4>been loading things into the car. She wants to listen

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<v Speaker 4>to the radio. She turns it on and there's a

1:09:31.360 --> 1:09:36.520
<v Speaker 4>terrible explosion and she dies. So it's incredibly sad.

1:09:36.600 --> 1:09:39.439
<v Speaker 2>And the dog dies too, Like that makes it even

1:09:39.479 --> 1:09:42.160
<v Speaker 2>more heartbreaking, obviously, because she's in the car with the

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<v Speaker 2>dog and she's like, all right, scruffy, let's turn on

1:09:44.200 --> 1:09:47.640
<v Speaker 2>the radio. I love listening to the radio. And yeah, explosion.

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<v Speaker 4>So now Yanosh's only hope of love and happiness is gone,

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<v Speaker 4>and he decides there is only one thing left for him,

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<v Speaker 4>and it is revenge. This leads to the final sequence

1:09:59.120 --> 1:10:02.640
<v Speaker 4>of the movie, which is the airplane revenge plot. So

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<v Speaker 4>Jeff and the gang have plans to fly an airplane

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<v Speaker 4>somewhere for some are they doing Are they trying to

1:10:10.320 --> 1:10:12.120
<v Speaker 4>get to a job or are they trying to do

1:10:12.160 --> 1:10:12.799
<v Speaker 4>it get away.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was more of a getaway, like we

1:10:14.800 --> 1:10:17.760
<v Speaker 2>got to flee to Mexico. Boys, that's the desert. But

1:10:18.840 --> 1:10:20.800
<v Speaker 2>I mean they probably have some jobs lined up there.

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<v Speaker 2>They got to keep working, gotta stay busy.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I didn't remember. But they're in a plane for

1:10:24.640 --> 1:10:27.439
<v Speaker 4>some reason. And Yanosh, remember he's a pilot, he can

1:10:27.479 --> 1:10:31.240
<v Speaker 4>fly a plane. He impersonates the pilot and he takes

1:10:31.240 --> 1:10:33.439
<v Speaker 4>the role flying the plane that all the gang is

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<v Speaker 4>in except Dinky. Dinky's left behind, but all the bad

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<v Speaker 4>guys in the gang they're in the plane and he

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<v Speaker 4>flies them out to the middle of nowhere in the desert,

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<v Speaker 4>landing the plane when it has no fuel left, and

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<v Speaker 4>then he explains to them their predicament. He's like, there's

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<v Speaker 4>no fuel, there's nowhere to go. I just want you

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<v Speaker 4>to know I have my revenge.

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<v Speaker 2>And I believe they actually filmed the sequence out in

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<v Speaker 2>the Arizona desert, so this is like real desert. I

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<v Speaker 2>think we get some stuff. Footage is some desert from

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<v Speaker 2>when they're flying around. But then yeah, we're out here

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<v Speaker 2>on the sands.

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<v Speaker 4>So the gang is furious, but they have nothing to do,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, they can't get out of the situation. So

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<v Speaker 4>they tie Yanosh to the plane. They start exploring in

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<v Speaker 4>different directions, but they just get you know, beaten down

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<v Speaker 4>by the sun. They find no not a hint of

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<v Speaker 4>civilization anywhere nearby. They start fighting over water rations, turning

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<v Speaker 4>on each other, shooting at each other, and it's a

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<v Speaker 4>real desperate scene. Now, finally, there's a thing we established earlier,

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<v Speaker 4>which is that Yanosh sent a note to O'Hara, to

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<v Speaker 4>the police, to his old friend saying, hey, if you

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<v Speaker 4>want to find the gang who's been doing these robberies,

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<v Speaker 4>come to this place in the middle of the desert.

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<v Speaker 4>Here are the coordinates at this time on this day.

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<v Speaker 4>And so the police take them up on that. I

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<v Speaker 4>guess they're like, surely, yeah, let's believe this anonymous tip.

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<v Speaker 4>So they arrived by plane several days later, finding all

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<v Speaker 4>of the gang and Yanosh dead. And when they find

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<v Speaker 4>to Jeff in the desert, collapsed in the sand, they

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<v Speaker 4>observed that he was trying to escape, but they say

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<v Speaker 4>he just kept walking in one big circle. It seems

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<v Speaker 4>thematically loaded.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And leading up to this moment we get some great

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<v Speaker 2>desert sand and hour glass imagery which I also really

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<v Speaker 2>like tickets a little artsy here.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. So when O'Hara finds Janosh's body, there's a note

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<v Speaker 4>waiting for him, explaining, explaining who he is, and saying like, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>remember me when we first met, you were kind to me.

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<v Speaker 4>Wanted to thank you that for that, and also to

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<v Speaker 4>repay you the five dollars that I owe you. And

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<v Speaker 4>you know, however long ago that was. I don't know

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<v Speaker 4>if they make explicit how long how much time has

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<v Speaker 4>passed in between. But O'Hara is reminded and he it says, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Were kind to me.

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<v Speaker 4>These men here they were not, And he says, I

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<v Speaker 4>have forgotten either, And so the music swells on a

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<v Speaker 4>scene of the men standing in the shadow of the

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<v Speaker 4>airplane in the middle of the desert, and it's a

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<v Speaker 4>it's a very bleak ending, though there is one happy

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<v Speaker 4>element to it, which is that I don't remember if

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<v Speaker 4>if we get an indication whether Dinky survives in the

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<v Speaker 4>end or not, but he does. Janosh does have a

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<v Speaker 4>big pot of money and he oh no, wait, no,

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<v Speaker 4>there's reward money for the capture of the gang.

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<v Speaker 2>He arranged it to go to Dinky's mother.

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<v Speaker 4>That's right, Yes, so he has the reward money sent

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<v Speaker 4>to Dinky's mother.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so there is this sense and I'm gonna take it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna assume it works out that Dinky's mom is

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<v Speaker 2>going to get to fix up the chicken farm. Dinky

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<v Speaker 2>gets to go out there and settle down, support his mother,

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<v Speaker 2>live there, and in his own way, live happily.

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<v Speaker 3>Ever after.

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<v Speaker 2>You got to take your victories where you can find him.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, no, that's that's there is a glimmer of happiness

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<v Speaker 4>in this mostly bleak ending.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah so yeah, that's the face behind the mask. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a in a Columbia Pictures B movie, but it

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<v Speaker 2>has a has a great look, has some very nice

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<v Speaker 2>performances in it, great Peter Loriie performance at the center

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<v Speaker 2>of everything obviously, and you know it it's it's very

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<v Speaker 2>much you know, it's very much on the rails, and

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<v Speaker 2>like I say, it's a short run time, but it

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<v Speaker 2>does give you some stuff to chew on it. It does,

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<v Speaker 2>in its own way, examine some fairly complex issues and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, morality and and and ambition and and even

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<v Speaker 2>the American dreams. So it's it's a much better film

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<v Speaker 2>than I was anticipating. Like I was, I was expecting

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<v Speaker 2>something that was just going to mostly be centered in

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<v Speaker 2>the Lori performance, you know, where I might just be

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<v Speaker 2>appreciating it for its own sake. Is this is sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>the case with great character actors. You know, like sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>it's just a gym in the rough, and you appreciate

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<v Speaker 2>that gym for what it is. But I think as

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<v Speaker 2>a whole, the picture's quite good.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I agree.

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<v Speaker 4>Can I actually revise my judgment about something we said earlier?

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<v Speaker 4>We said we said that the movie is not subtle,

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<v Speaker 4>and I think that that's true about a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>things about it, but there are elements that are subtle.

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<v Speaker 4>I think actually what I would say is that some

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<v Speaker 4>things about it are incredibly unsubtle, Like it has very

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<v Speaker 4>overt themes and very overt use of the tools of

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<v Speaker 4>cinema music and you know, and you know, heavy like

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<v Speaker 4>visual foreshadowing and things like that. Some of that stuff

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<v Speaker 4>is not subtle. But there is also some subtle stuff

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<v Speaker 4>that you know, you get by implication. The death of

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<v Speaker 4>Jeff at the end, you know, walking around in circles.

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<v Speaker 4>They don't state that connection to the themes too overtly.

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<v Speaker 4>And also some things about Peter Lourie's performance, Like in

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<v Speaker 4>some scenes he is just very overtly like stating his

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<v Speaker 4>emotions and motivations and performing them very forcefully. But in

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<v Speaker 4>other scenes, I think there is some subtlety. There's some

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<v Speaker 4>subtlety about like exactly what is so beautiful to him

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<v Speaker 4>about about Helen's attitude. You know, that's not all stated explicitly,

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<v Speaker 4>like he mentions her optimism, but the the stuff about

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<v Speaker 4>like the way that she finds the best in everything

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<v Speaker 4>that seems to kind of like remind him of his

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<v Speaker 4>earlier self, but like he never says that explicitly, So

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know, I think there's some good subtle stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, this is interesting because we might in a way

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<v Speaker 2>be getting back into the idea of what is noir,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, And you know, you think about these black

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<v Speaker 2>and white pictures with you know, deep midnight blacks and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, contrasted by the white, and you know, we

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<v Speaker 2>think about like you know, good and evil, but then

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<v Speaker 2>all of these like areas of ambiguity in between, even

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<v Speaker 2>though you know, obviously noir pictures often also play with

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<v Speaker 2>severe absolutes as well.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, some stuff is very heavy handed and some stuff

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<v Speaker 4>is more subtle. In fact, I wonder to over extend

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<v Speaker 4>the metaphor perhaps I wonder if you could almost think

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<v Speaker 4>of this as kind of like a stage magician, that

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<v Speaker 4>a stage magician is going to be through misdirection, being

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<v Speaker 4>very flamboyant with what they do with one hand in

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<v Speaker 4>order to you know, sort of keep your attention off

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<v Speaker 4>of what they're doing with the other hand. Could that

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<v Speaker 4>could that be the case with some noir storytelling like

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<v Speaker 4>we see here, that it makes the subtle elements all

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<v Speaker 4>the more the more emotionally resonant, that they're kind of

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<v Speaker 4>hidden by this heavy handed, overt storytelling style in some

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<v Speaker 4>of the other choices.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think that's a pretty solid way to look

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<v Speaker 2>at it, And obviously we'd love to hear what listeners

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<v Speaker 2>have to say about all of this. You know, think

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<v Speaker 2>about it in terms of your favorite noir pictures, be

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<v Speaker 2>it you know, old timey noir or neo noir, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the various noir elements that you'll find in various works

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<v Speaker 2>of science fiction, anime, and so forth.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, in.

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<v Speaker 2>We'd love to have that discussion with you and think

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<v Speaker 2>about it as we proceed through the month of November.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there another noir or neo noir picture you would

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<v Speaker 2>like for us to consider on Weird House Cinema, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>in the future, right in and let us know. For instance,

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<v Speaker 2>I was my backup for this one was going to

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<v Speaker 2>be a Cohen Brother's picture, And at some point I

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<v Speaker 2>think I would like to come back and do a

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<v Speaker 2>Cohen Brothers picture on some of my favorite filmmakers, and

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<v Speaker 2>a number of those films are very close to my heart.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, I think I know exactly what movie you have

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<v Speaker 4>in mind. Yeah, or we could come back to the

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<v Speaker 4>Cohen Brothers in a number of ways. Actually, oh yeah, yeah.

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