WEBVTT - Redditors Select John Oliver as Symbol of Revolution

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to tech Stuff, a production from iHeartRadio. Hey there,

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<v Speaker 1>and welcome to tech Stuff. I'm your host, Jonathan Strickland.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm an executive producer with iHeartRadio. And how the tech

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<v Speaker 1>are you? It's time for the tech news for Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 1>June twentieth, twenty twenty three, Time dot Com has an

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<v Speaker 1>article by Billy Perigo titled exclusive open ai lobbied the

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<v Speaker 1>EU to water down AI regulation and I think that

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<v Speaker 1>article is worth a read. Now, it's not exactly surprising,

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<v Speaker 1>because if you've been following the news, open AI's CEO

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<v Speaker 1>Sam Altman has been proactive in engaging with politicians around

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<v Speaker 1>the world, ostensibly to help create sensible regulations for the

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<v Speaker 1>burgeoning AI industry. But, as it turns out, and again

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<v Speaker 1>this is not really a surprise, Altman's work has mostly

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<v Speaker 1>focused on how to create regulations that have a minimal

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<v Speaker 1>impact on open AI's business. In other words, I think

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<v Speaker 1>Altman recognized that regulations are unavoidable, so the next best

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<v Speaker 1>thing is to have a hand in creating those regulations

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<v Speaker 1>so that open ai can still pursue business with as

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<v Speaker 1>few barriers in its way as possible. Now, you might

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<v Speaker 1>remember that the EU created different designations for AI, ranging

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<v Speaker 1>from minimal risk or no risk at all all the

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<v Speaker 1>way up to unacceptable risk. Anything that's deemed an unacceptable

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<v Speaker 1>risk would be unlawful into EU. Again, that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Unacceptable suggests that right. Anyway, the original draft of EU's

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<v Speaker 1>regulations would possibly put generative AI products like open AI's

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<v Speaker 1>GPT three language model and chat GPT the chat pot

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<v Speaker 1>into the high ra category at least for specific applications,

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<v Speaker 1>and high risk is the rank just below unacceptable, and

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<v Speaker 1>it would have meant that open ai would have to

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<v Speaker 1>adhere to more strict regulations and rules. But last year

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<v Speaker 1>open Ai sent a seven page white paper to the

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<v Speaker 1>EU and also lobbied extensively to have the rules tweaked

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<v Speaker 1>so that open AI's products don't count toward high risk applications. Instead,

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<v Speaker 1>open ai and a few other large established companies would

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<v Speaker 1>have products that would be kind of classified as foundation,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like these are the pillars of AI than

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<v Speaker 1>they are above reproach. Which that's me being a little snarky,

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<v Speaker 1>but because we've seen multiple times now how chatbots like

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<v Speaker 1>chat GPT can cause real problems. Anyway, the lobbying actually worked.

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<v Speaker 1>The amended regulation language carves out space for open ai

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<v Speaker 1>and some other companies like at. Critics say that open

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<v Speaker 1>ai has essentially neutered the legislation and that the company

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<v Speaker 1>is being a bit two faced, that it's calling for

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<v Speaker 1>regulation on the one hand and secretly negotiating for a

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<v Speaker 1>favorable deal in the background. On a related note, tech

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<v Speaker 1>Crunch's Ingrid London reports that a consumer group called the

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<v Speaker 1>European Consumer Organization aka BUC. That initialism reflects the original

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<v Speaker 1>French name of the organization, which no, I am not

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<v Speaker 1>going to attempt to say, because I you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I get enough abuse already. Anyway, the BUC

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<v Speaker 1>is calling upon European Union regulators to actively investigate what

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<v Speaker 1>risks Generative Ai actually poses to EU citizens, and y'all,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that sounds perfectly reasonable. I mean, as it stands,

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<v Speaker 1>the appearance is that lawmakers are relying heavily on companies

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<v Speaker 1>like open ai, saying that they pinky promise not to

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<v Speaker 1>do anything harmful and that their tools have appropriate protections

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<v Speaker 1>in place already, so there's no need for further regulation.

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<v Speaker 1>But a thorough investigation could put those claims to the

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<v Speaker 1>test and then either confirm that those claims are true

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<v Speaker 1>or prove them to be meritless. I think either way,

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<v Speaker 1>you need to have that understanding before you actually start

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<v Speaker 1>to create regulations. The BUC also submitted a report titled

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<v Speaker 1>Ghost in the Machine addressing the consumer harms of generative AI,

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<v Speaker 1>and as the name of the report spells out, the

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<v Speaker 1>buc's position is pretty clear, generative AI does represent potential

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<v Speaker 1>harm to citizens. Now, interestingly, the report is mostly about

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like ensuring fair competition in the marketplace and limiting

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<v Speaker 1>the spread of disinformation and ensuring accessibility. So, in other words,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not like it's an alarm report. Right, This isn't

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<v Speaker 1>a paper that's saying AI is going to destroy us

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<v Speaker 1>all it's going to end too in a post apocalyptic scenario.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not what this report says. So it's not that

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<v Speaker 1>sort of inflammatory language that we frequently find in the

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<v Speaker 1>media and in some reports here in the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's really more about how AI could potentially create

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<v Speaker 1>problems for citizens and thus needs to be investigated more

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<v Speaker 1>thoroughly before the EU passes actual regulations, Like how can

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<v Speaker 1>you regulate something if you don't fully understand what it

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<v Speaker 1>may or may not be able to do? And I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's a pretty reasonable conclusion, particularly since it's not

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<v Speaker 1>unusual to see leaders struggle with the implications of technologies

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<v Speaker 1>that they don't fully understand or have experience using. Apple

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<v Speaker 1>has joined Google in sending out a message to employees

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<v Speaker 1>saying it's a no no to use AI chatbots like chat,

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<v Speaker 1>GPT and Google Bard for internal company purposes. So Apple

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<v Speaker 1>employees are not to rely on those bots to help

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<v Speaker 1>them do work, whether it might be organized notes into

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<v Speaker 1>a presentation or maybe help a developer build out code.

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<v Speaker 1>So you may recall that Google also told its employees

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing earlier, and that involved the odd situation

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<v Speaker 1>of Google saying, hey, you know that tool that we're

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<v Speaker 1>creating and we're trying to sell to businesses so that

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<v Speaker 1>they can use it for business reasons. Yeah, don't use

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<v Speaker 1>that for our business. It kind of makes me think

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<v Speaker 1>of my aunt who covered all her furniture and plastic

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<v Speaker 1>because it was quote unquote for company that never seemed

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<v Speaker 1>to visit. It wasn't furniture that was meant for sitting

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<v Speaker 1>on anyway. I would point to big companies making these

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<v Speaker 1>sweeping rules as proof that perhaps regulators need to approach

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<v Speaker 1>their work carefully. Because if the big companies are shying

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<v Speaker 1>away from the tech, including the big companies that are

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<v Speaker 1>making the tech in the first place, that should really

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<v Speaker 1>be a red flag. And it's doubly awkward because open

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<v Speaker 1>ai launched an iOS app based version of chat GPT recently,

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<v Speaker 1>and since I've dogged on chat bots for three stories

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<v Speaker 1>in a row, I want to say I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>this technology is inherently bad or that it doesn't serve

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<v Speaker 1>a purpose. I just don't think it has proven to

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<v Speaker 1>be trustworthy, and considering the data harvesting practices of companies,

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<v Speaker 1>I also question whether using it for sensitive business purposes

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<v Speaker 1>or any sensitive purpose for that matter, is a good idea.

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<v Speaker 1>While I can agree with Apple leadership on the whole

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<v Speaker 1>generative AI thing, I do have to call them out

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<v Speaker 1>for continuing to try and trademark the image of an

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<v Speaker 1>actual Apple. And you might be thinking, huh, you know

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<v Speaker 1>apples existed a long time before Apple the company did. Otherwise,

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<v Speaker 1>why would you name the company Apple if there weren't

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<v Speaker 1>apples already? And apples are grown all over the world

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<v Speaker 1>and taking a photo of an Apple shouldn't be a

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<v Speaker 1>big deal, So how could Apple the Company trade mark

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<v Speaker 1>an image of Apple the fruit, and I guess the

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<v Speaker 1>answer to that is they could repeatedly try to do this.

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<v Speaker 1>Mashables Cecily Maron has a piece on this that goes

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<v Speaker 1>over Apple's quest to trademark a black and white image

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<v Speaker 1>of a Granny Smith Apple in various countries, including in Switzerland,

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<v Speaker 1>and Malron points out that if Apple succeeds in doing this,

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<v Speaker 1>the company could conceivably force any other organization that happens

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<v Speaker 1>to have an Apple and its logo to change, which, y'all,

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<v Speaker 1>this just seems outright bizarre to me. It's also only

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<v Speaker 1>slightly tech related, so we're gonna move on now. Last

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<v Speaker 1>week I talked about how thousands of communities on Reddit

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<v Speaker 1>also known as subreddits, had gone dark in protest of

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<v Speaker 1>how Reddit changed its API policy and how those changes

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<v Speaker 1>are effectively forcing developers of several popular Reddit apps to

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<v Speaker 1>shut those apps down. So basically, Reddit has set a

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<v Speaker 1>very high fee for apps that reference the platform a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>and the really popular apps reference Reddit on such a

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<v Speaker 1>scale that the fee would equal several million dollars a year,

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<v Speaker 1>which these developers can't pay, and so the apps have

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<v Speaker 1>gone dark. Well, that protest, which was to last two

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<v Speaker 1>days of these various subredts going dark has now continued

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<v Speaker 1>for at least thousands of subreddit communities. This, in part

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<v Speaker 1>is a response to how Reddit's leadership has chosen to

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<v Speaker 1>respond to the protests, and by that I mean they have.

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<v Speaker 1>The leadership has largely dismissed the protests as being nothing

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<v Speaker 1>more than an inconvenience. Now, a hacker criminal group known

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<v Speaker 1>both as Alpha, but instead of a A at the end,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a V, but it's ALPHV, also known as black Cat,

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<v Speaker 1>is saying that Reddit leadership needs to pay a four

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<v Speaker 1>and a half million dollar ransom fee as well as

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<v Speaker 1>ditch the changes to its API policy, or the group

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<v Speaker 1>is going to release internal data to the tune of

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<v Speaker 1>eighty gigabytes of him. Now, we already know this group

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<v Speaker 1>was successful in breaching company systems because Reddit actually confirmed

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<v Speaker 1>the breach back in February. What black Cat did not do,

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<v Speaker 1>which is what most ransomware groups will do, they did

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<v Speaker 1>not encrypt Reddit's databases. Typically, that's what ransomware groups do, right,

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<v Speaker 1>They lock down databases by encrypting them, and they say,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll give you the decryption key, but first you have

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<v Speaker 1>to pay a ransom. Well, they didn't do that. In

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<v Speaker 1>this case, all they did was they accessed a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of systems and apparently stole around eighty gigabytes worth of information.

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<v Speaker 1>Now this group is saying, hey, Reddit, pay up and

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<v Speaker 1>change your ways, or else your data goes public. Reddit's

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<v Speaker 1>probably not going to comply with this demand, and you

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<v Speaker 1>could chalk this up to a hacker group taking advantage

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<v Speaker 1>of our recent community flare up to grab some publicity

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<v Speaker 1>for itself, rather than an earnest attempt to blackmail the company.

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<v Speaker 1>The protests on Reddit continue in the meantime, and they've

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<v Speaker 1>taken a rather absurd and mean centric approach, which, considering

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about Internet culture, is par for the course.

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<v Speaker 1>While more than half of the previously dark subredits have returned,

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<v Speaker 1>the outrage on Reddit has not gone away, and in

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<v Speaker 1>some of those returned subreddits, a particular British comedian and

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<v Speaker 1>TV host has taken a prominent role in the protests,

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<v Speaker 1>and initially did so without his own involvement or consent.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm talking about John Oliver. Redditors on various subredits

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<v Speaker 1>are flooding pages with photoshopped images of John Oliver, and

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<v Speaker 1>other redditors are upvoting those images, which effectively drowns out

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<v Speaker 1>anything that you know isn't John Oliver and would otherwise

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<v Speaker 1>be relevant to the subreddit community. John Oliver himself approves

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<v Speaker 1>of the move. He even posted along Twitter thread filled

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<v Speaker 1>with selfies of himself to serve as fodder for the

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<v Speaker 1>photoshopped memes. Reddit leaders have allegedly contacted some of the

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<v Speaker 1>more popular subredits that remained dark and threatened to remove

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<v Speaker 1>the moderators of those communities and force those communities to reopen.

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<v Speaker 1>So this protest move seems like it's the next step

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<v Speaker 1>to keep the subreddits from serving a useful purpose. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>they can reopen, but the users can flood it with

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<v Speaker 1>just garbage in an effort to continue to protest, and

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<v Speaker 1>presumably that would also end up discouraging advertisers from doing

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<v Speaker 1>business with the platform, which ultimately is a pressure point

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<v Speaker 1>that could work on Reddit management. Okay, we've got some

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<v Speaker 1>more tech news to cover, but before we get to that,

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<v Speaker 1>let's take a quick break. We're back so here in

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<v Speaker 1>the United States, the Senate has reintroduced a bill called

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<v Speaker 1>the Platform Accountability and Transparency Act or PATA PATA. The

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<v Speaker 1>bill was originally drafted in twenty twenty one. Initially, it

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<v Speaker 1>was introduced in twenty twenty two, but didn't for seed

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<v Speaker 1>to getting a vote, and now it's back again. So

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<v Speaker 1>the purpose of this bill is not one that I

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<v Speaker 1>would jump on the way or jump against, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>the way I would with a lot of bills that

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<v Speaker 1>involve the web, because often I see proposed legislation that

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<v Speaker 1>I think is terribly misguided. This one I don't feel

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<v Speaker 1>that way anyway. The purpose of it is to require

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<v Speaker 1>social media companies to be more transparent with their advertising libraries,

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<v Speaker 1>as well as give information on things like their recommendation

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<v Speaker 1>algorithms and how those work. So if you've ever wondered, well,

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<v Speaker 1>how the heck did this particular thing go viral? Like

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<v Speaker 1>it's obviously really really popular, But why did this one

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<v Speaker 1>go viral but this other similar piece of content that

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<v Speaker 1>one just went unnoticed? What's the difference? That's the kind

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<v Speaker 1>of question this bill aims to help answer by requiring

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<v Speaker 1>platforms to divulge how certain types of content get boosts

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<v Speaker 1>from algorithms, and thus that content gets served up to

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<v Speaker 1>more people and has a better chance of going viral. Now, obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>just serving that content up to people isn't enough. You

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<v Speaker 1>have to actually get people to engage with the material,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's when true virality happens. But obviously, if more

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<v Speaker 1>people are able to see a particular piece of content,

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<v Speaker 1>especially early early on, then the more likely it is

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<v Speaker 1>to go viral. The bill would also require platforms to

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<v Speaker 1>be transparent about content moderation policies and practices, And on

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<v Speaker 1>top of that, journalists and researchers who use publicly available

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<v Speaker 1>data from these platforms would also receive legal protections which

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<v Speaker 1>would limit their liability as long as they followed specific

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<v Speaker 1>privacy and security requirements. So, in other words, as long

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<v Speaker 1>as you're handling the data properly and you're not allowing

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<v Speaker 1>it to just disseminate without control, then you should be

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<v Speaker 1>protected from legal action based upon whatever your research or

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<v Speaker 1>or journalist investigation uncovers. One element that previously had been

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<v Speaker 1>in the bill has now gone missing. So once upon

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<v Speaker 1>a time, there was a section in this proposed bill

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<v Speaker 1>that would have removed section two thirty protections for platforms

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<v Speaker 1>if they refuse to comply with legal data requests. So,

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<v Speaker 1>if you'll recall, Section two thirty grants platforms online platforms

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<v Speaker 1>legal protections from being held liable for the stuff that

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<v Speaker 1>users post to those platforms. So here's an example. If

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<v Speaker 1>dishonest John posts something illegal to Facebook, it's not Facebook

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<v Speaker 1>that's legally accountable for that material, assuming that Facebook is

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<v Speaker 1>also following the rules and making a reasonable effort to

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<v Speaker 1>remove illegal stuff from its platform when it gets notified

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<v Speaker 1>about it. The earlier version of this bill said that

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<v Speaker 1>platforms could lose Section two thirty protections if they did

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<v Speaker 1>not comply with awful data requests. However, now that's out

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<v Speaker 1>of the bill, so the teeth have been taken out

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<v Speaker 1>of that, which probably is a good thing because there

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<v Speaker 1>have been a lot of attacks on section two thirty,

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<v Speaker 1>some of which I think aren't really you know, relevant,

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<v Speaker 1>and this could have been used as sort of a

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<v Speaker 1>backdoor approach to getting rid of section two thirty. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not going to argue that section two thirty should never

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<v Speaker 1>go away. Maybe it should, but it needs to be

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<v Speaker 1>done in a way that doesn't involve finding a loophole, right.

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<v Speaker 1>You need to find a way to address that and

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<v Speaker 1>discuss what are the merits, where's it failing if it

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<v Speaker 1>is failing, and how should that be addressed Rather than

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<v Speaker 1>just say, ah, I created a shortcut, so we can

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<v Speaker 1>work away around it anyway. The bill has bipartisan support

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<v Speaker 1>in the Senate, but it still has to go to

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<v Speaker 1>a vote. If it does pass a vote, the House

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<v Speaker 1>of Representatives would then have to discuss it and make

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<v Speaker 1>any changes to the language of the bill they wanted

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<v Speaker 1>and then vote on that. And if that vote passed,

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<v Speaker 1>then it would go back to the Senate and they

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<v Speaker 1>would look at any of the changes and they would

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<v Speaker 1>vote again, and then eventually it would go to the

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<v Speaker 1>President to be signed into law. So there's still a

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<v Speaker 1>long way to go toward making social networks more transparent

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<v Speaker 1>and accountable, and there's no guarantee that it will actually

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<v Speaker 1>become a law, but it's on its way. Also here

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<v Speaker 1>in the United States, the Federal Communications Commission or FCC,

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<v Speaker 1>would really like to know more about data caps, specifically

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<v Speaker 1>why we have data caps. Data caps, of course, being

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<v Speaker 1>a limit to the amount of data you can download

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<v Speaker 1>in a given amount of time. So a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>providers will have a plan in place where you can

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<v Speaker 1>access a certain amount of data, and then once you

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<v Speaker 1>hit that limit, you might be throttled or charged more

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<v Speaker 1>to access more information. On top of that, so the

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<v Speaker 1>FCC is not saying that data caps are unnecessary. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the whole point of the FCC asking questions in

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<v Speaker 1>the first place. They're not coming at this with a

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<v Speaker 1>decision already in mind. The agency wants to understand data

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<v Speaker 1>caps both from the perspective of providers as well as consumers.

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<v Speaker 1>So are data caps necessary and if they are, what

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<v Speaker 1>purpose do they serve? Do they have an unfair impact

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<v Speaker 1>on consumers? There's no denying that data consumption rates have

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<v Speaker 1>blown up over the last decade. In fact, the pandemic

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<v Speaker 1>really did a number on data use because millions of

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<v Speaker 1>people were forced to work remotely. So the FCC is

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<v Speaker 1>aiming to understand data cap practices better. Do they serve

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<v Speaker 1>a purpose beyond just driving revenue for providers, Then the

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<v Speaker 1>FCC can make rules to ensure that data caps don't

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<v Speaker 1>prevent accessibility to consumers and that they don't create unf

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<v Speaker 1>market conditions that discourage competition. So it's too early to

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<v Speaker 1>say yay, data caps are on the way out. They

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<v Speaker 1>may not be. There may very well be legitimate purposes

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<v Speaker 1>for them beyond we make money this way, right, So

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see how this unfolds. All right now, let's go

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<v Speaker 1>back over to the European Union. You might remember that

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<v Speaker 1>the EU created rules that will require companies to adopt

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<v Speaker 1>the USBC standard in devices like smartphones and tablets and

0:19:30.480 --> 0:19:33.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, other things like laptops as well, and that

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<v Speaker 1>this decision is forcing companies like Apple to make significant

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<v Speaker 1>changes in order to stay in the European market. Namely,

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<v Speaker 1>Apple would have to either ditch the lightning port entirely

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<v Speaker 1>and switch it out to USBC, or include USBC along

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<v Speaker 1>with lightning ports on its devices, which would obviously add

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<v Speaker 1>bulk to those gadgets. And now the EU Parliament has

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<v Speaker 1>voted to require manufacturers to make it possible to easily

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<v Speaker 1>place batteries on those types of devices for consumers. So,

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<v Speaker 1>in other words, if you went out and bought yourself

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<v Speaker 1>a smartphone, you as a consumer should be able to

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<v Speaker 1>open up a back little section on that phone, pull

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<v Speaker 1>out a battery and put in a new one. This

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<v Speaker 1>would be huge and a huge change. Being able to

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<v Speaker 1>pop up in your iPhone swap out the battery not

0:20:24.480 --> 0:20:26.840
<v Speaker 1>only can give you extended use, but obviously you can

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<v Speaker 1>replace the battery if your original one no longer holds

0:20:29.760 --> 0:20:33.720
<v Speaker 1>a full charge. With these rules, in place. By necessity,

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<v Speaker 1>companies would have to change the design of gadgets so

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<v Speaker 1>that you could actually access the battery in the first place.

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<v Speaker 1>And again, companies like Apple use a lot of proprietary

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<v Speaker 1>fasteners that require special tools if you want to get

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<v Speaker 1>into an iPhone's guts. Apple has made a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>allowances and has made a lot of concessions to regulators

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<v Speaker 1>by making these tools more readily available to independent repair people,

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<v Speaker 1>but still not something that the average person can easily do.

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<v Speaker 1>And Apple typically isn't keen on just letting anyone be

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<v Speaker 1>able to pop open an Apple device, partly to discourage

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<v Speaker 1>hackers from making Apple products do stuff that they weren't

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<v Speaker 1>intended to do, because Apple has always been about control

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<v Speaker 1>of the experience of using their products. And also it's

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<v Speaker 1>partly or perhaps even mostly in an effort to create

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<v Speaker 1>a closed ecosystem where Apple determines who can access a device,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is a way of generating revenue, right because

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<v Speaker 1>if you prevent just anyone from being able to open

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<v Speaker 1>the device, then they have to go to specific repair

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<v Speaker 1>shops and repair people, and those often end up being

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<v Speaker 1>licensed by Apple, which means that Apple gets money from this,

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<v Speaker 1>and it becomes a way to keep generating revenue by

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<v Speaker 1>preventing just anyone from being able to open it up

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<v Speaker 1>and mess around. Now, this new law goes into effect

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty seven, which makes sense like it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>there's a reason it's that far out. It has they

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<v Speaker 1>have to give manufacturers time to design products that will

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<v Speaker 1>comply with these rules. And this rule may not be,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the most wonderful thing in the world for

0:22:16.320 --> 0:22:20.199
<v Speaker 1>all gadget lovers out there, because it may mean that

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<v Speaker 1>we start to see gadgets get a little chonky again,

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<v Speaker 1>because a big reason for preventing people from accessing the

0:22:29.640 --> 0:22:33.439
<v Speaker 1>innerds of these devices is that, forim, factors have become

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<v Speaker 1>so small and so slim that it requires manufacturers to

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<v Speaker 1>design components that cram together in such a way that

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<v Speaker 1>you can't really separate them. Like the battery ends up

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<v Speaker 1>being literally built into the phone, which means it's impossible

0:22:48.640 --> 0:22:52.880
<v Speaker 1>to remove the battery without breaking the phone. So this

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<v Speaker 1>could mean that the smartphones of the future, at least

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<v Speaker 1>in Europe, get a bit more hefty, but the trade

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<v Speaker 1>off would be you'd be able to pop out the

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<v Speaker 1>battery and swap it for a new one anytime you like.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll have to see how this impacts the design

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<v Speaker 1>of gadgets that are sold in the European Union. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to take another quick break. When we come back.

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<v Speaker 1>I got about four more stories to cover. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>we're back again. When HDTVs first began to take off

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<v Speaker 1>in the consumer market, you really had two major technologies

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<v Speaker 1>that were in competition. You had LCD screens and you

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<v Speaker 1>had plasma televisions, and each of them had their own

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<v Speaker 1>pros and cons. Plasma televisions were really great with resolution

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<v Speaker 1>and color, especially on mid sized television screens. However, they

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<v Speaker 1>were also not as bright, and they also had the

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<v Speaker 1>possibility of screen burn in, which was another kind of

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<v Speaker 1>negative for plasma screens. They also were more expensive to

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<v Speaker 1>manufacture than LCD screens, and by extension, they were much

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<v Speaker 1>more expensive to purchase for consumers. Those costs got bigger

0:24:13.640 --> 0:24:17.040
<v Speaker 1>as the screens themselves got bigger and they consumed more

0:24:17.160 --> 0:24:21.600
<v Speaker 1>energy than LCDs. So while plasma screens had their fans

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<v Speaker 1>like people who just passionately loved the quality of plasma

0:24:25.720 --> 0:24:29.280
<v Speaker 1>over LCD, by twenty thirteen the plasma had kind of

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<v Speaker 1>faded away. The Phillips stopped making them in twenty thirteen

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<v Speaker 1>and they pretty much died as a result. So while

0:24:37.800 --> 0:24:42.000
<v Speaker 1>LCDs enjoyed a decade more in the spotlight, they are

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<v Speaker 1>now also kind of going off to live on the

0:24:45.400 --> 0:24:47.560
<v Speaker 1>farm and pet the rabbits, if you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>So technologies like LED and LED or O lead screens

0:24:53.560 --> 0:24:57.800
<v Speaker 1>are dominant, and LCD research and development is yesterday's news.

0:24:57.800 --> 0:25:01.520
<v Speaker 1>According to industry insiders. They're saying, like, yeah, the LCD

0:25:01.680 --> 0:25:04.320
<v Speaker 1>has pretty much gone as far as it can, like

0:25:04.359 --> 0:25:07.960
<v Speaker 1>that technology is sort of maxed out, and thus there's

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<v Speaker 1>no real reason to pour money in R and D,

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<v Speaker 1>and instead you would be researching other technologies. However, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to actually say that LCD stuff is literally

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<v Speaker 1>going away, like it's dying off like plasma did. I'm

0:25:24.840 --> 0:25:27.080
<v Speaker 1>having a bit of fun with this, but it's not

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<v Speaker 1>quite to that level. LCD will likely still be part

0:25:30.119 --> 0:25:34.000
<v Speaker 1>of LCD LED TVs. It's just that those televisions are

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<v Speaker 1>going to be the lower end televisions because they'll they'll

0:25:36.720 --> 0:25:41.560
<v Speaker 1>max out in resolution and quality, but they'll still represent

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<v Speaker 1>sort of the bargain end of high definition televisions, and

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<v Speaker 1>that the future of ultra high resolution television really rests

0:25:50.960 --> 0:25:56.480
<v Speaker 1>on the metaphorical shoulders of o LED tech. So thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for all your hard work, LCD. Enjoy your retirement now.

0:26:01.359 --> 0:26:05.480
<v Speaker 1>Today I learned about muons, which I previously believe to

0:26:05.560 --> 0:26:09.720
<v Speaker 1>be the sound that was made by cows. Sorry, it

0:26:09.760 --> 0:26:11.879
<v Speaker 1>was Father's Day this past weekend and in the United

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<v Speaker 1>States here, and I think I've got some residual Dad

0:26:15.000 --> 0:26:17.919
<v Speaker 1>jokes stuck to me. But no, muons are not the

0:26:17.960 --> 0:26:21.880
<v Speaker 1>sound made by cow ons. Mooons are subatomic particles. They

0:26:21.960 --> 0:26:26.080
<v Speaker 1>are similar to electrons, but they weigh a lot more

0:26:26.119 --> 0:26:29.080
<v Speaker 1>than electrons do. And the mooons that visit our little

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<v Speaker 1>planet come from interactions between cosmic rays hitting little particles

0:26:33.560 --> 0:26:37.920
<v Speaker 1>way up in our atmosphere, and thousands of them hit

0:26:38.000 --> 0:26:41.520
<v Speaker 1>every square meter of the Earth every minute. The particles

0:26:41.520 --> 0:26:44.760
<v Speaker 1>themselves zip along at pretty dang incredible speed. They're not

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<v Speaker 1>quite moving at the speed of light. You know, you

0:26:47.280 --> 0:26:49.680
<v Speaker 1>can't really hit speed of light with if you've got mass.

0:26:49.960 --> 0:26:52.520
<v Speaker 1>That's one of the tricky things about the speed of light.

0:26:52.560 --> 0:26:55.840
<v Speaker 1>But they are super duper fast, and they're teeny teeny tiny,

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<v Speaker 1>and they can penetrate solid stuff like the ground by

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<v Speaker 1>a lot like miles. Now, scientists in Japan have created

0:27:04.320 --> 0:27:08.480
<v Speaker 1>Muon detectors that collectively can serve as a kind of

0:27:08.640 --> 0:27:12.679
<v Speaker 1>underground GPS. Researchers at the University of Tokyo showed that

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<v Speaker 1>using Muon detectors, they could calculate a receiver's position in

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<v Speaker 1>the basement of a six story building. So the thought

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<v Speaker 1>is this technology could potentially be used in areas where

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<v Speaker 1>other means of navigation like GPS would be useless because

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<v Speaker 1>signals would not be able to penetrate the correct depth.

0:27:30.480 --> 0:27:33.280
<v Speaker 1>In order to be useful, the tech could be used

0:27:33.280 --> 0:27:36.880
<v Speaker 1>to monitor underground volcanic activity, or to plot a path

0:27:36.960 --> 0:27:40.040
<v Speaker 1>for an unmanned underground vehicle, that kind of stuff, and

0:27:40.200 --> 0:27:43.359
<v Speaker 1>it would rely on naturally occurring muons. Like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, thousands of these are hitting every square meter,

0:27:45.640 --> 0:27:50.080
<v Speaker 1>like ten thousand every minute hitting a square meter. So

0:27:50.640 --> 0:27:52.840
<v Speaker 1>the tech really is all about coordinating the efforts of

0:27:52.880 --> 0:27:55.879
<v Speaker 1>various receiving stations for the purposes of mapping and navigation.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't pretend to understand the subtleties of how all

0:28:00.440 --> 0:28:03.040
<v Speaker 1>this works, but I do plan to look into it

0:28:03.080 --> 0:28:05.399
<v Speaker 1>a lot more and do a full episode about it

0:28:05.440 --> 0:28:08.280
<v Speaker 1>in the future. I just don't want to say anything

0:28:08.280 --> 0:28:11.600
<v Speaker 1>else here where, I just end up making an assumption

0:28:11.680 --> 0:28:14.920
<v Speaker 1>that's completely off basin incorrect. So in the meantime, you

0:28:14.920 --> 0:28:18.199
<v Speaker 1>should know that while cowons do not make muons, a

0:28:18.320 --> 0:28:21.760
<v Speaker 1>quark is the sound made by a dirk. Space dot

0:28:21.800 --> 0:28:25.760
<v Speaker 1>Com reports that scientists at the Large Hadron Collider are

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<v Speaker 1>zeroing in on the answer to one of the most

0:28:27.800 --> 0:28:33.080
<v Speaker 1>perplexing questions in cosmic history. Why do we live in

0:28:33.119 --> 0:28:37.920
<v Speaker 1>a universe made of matter instead of antimatter? Now keep

0:28:37.960 --> 0:28:41.640
<v Speaker 1>in mind we humans gave matter and antimatter their names,

0:28:41.800 --> 0:28:44.160
<v Speaker 1>so really you could say, why has our universe made

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<v Speaker 1>up of this stuff rather than this other stuff which

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<v Speaker 1>also existed? So when matter and antimatter encounter one another,

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<v Speaker 1>they annihilate each other. So if there had been equal

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<v Speaker 1>amounts of matter and antimatter created at the beginning of

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<v Speaker 1>the universe, the whole universe should have poofed out of

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<v Speaker 1>existence in a big old explosion of energy and radiation.

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<v Speaker 1>But for some reason, matter one out. Why though, why

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<v Speaker 1>was the creation asymmetrical? Because based on our understanding of

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<v Speaker 1>the standard model of physics, it should have been symmetrical.

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<v Speaker 1>The scientists have been conducting research in this area creating

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<v Speaker 1>antimatter and labs at the Large Hadron Collider and trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get a better understanding of why this imbalance existed

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<v Speaker 1>and what that means with regard to our understanding of

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<v Speaker 1>cosmology and physics in general. It's pretty cool stuff and

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to learn more, I recommend reading the

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<v Speaker 1>article Large Hadron Collider may be closing in on the

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<v Speaker 1>Universe's missing antimatter by Keith Cooper at space dot Com. Finally,

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<v Speaker 1>Suzuki Motor Corporation and SkyDrive, a startup company in Japan

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<v Speaker 1>that's in the flying car biz, jointly announced intentions to

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<v Speaker 1>produce flying cars starting next year like the spring of

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty four. SkyDrive is going to use Suzuki's manufacturing

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<v Speaker 1>facilities to assemble the flying cars. These flying cars look

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit like oversized quad copter drones, except instead

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<v Speaker 1>of having like a quad copter, it's called that because

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<v Speaker 1>you have four sets of rotors, one on the end

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<v Speaker 1>of each arm, So you've got a central unit and

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<v Speaker 1>four arms that go off at in different angles, and

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<v Speaker 1>there's a set of rotors at the end of each one.

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<v Speaker 1>This one would actually have three sets of rotors and

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<v Speaker 1>like a triangular formation at the end of each arm,

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<v Speaker 1>so you'd have twelve sets total instead of just four. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>it sounds like the goal is to have some flying

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<v Speaker 1>cars available in time for the twenty twenty five World Exposition,

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<v Speaker 1>which taking place in Osaka, Japan. As for how they

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<v Speaker 1>would be used, like, what would be the practical purpose

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<v Speaker 1>of these flying cars? Your guess is as good as mine.

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<v Speaker 1>The most frequent suggestion I have seen for flying cars

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<v Speaker 1>is that they might be used to transport people from

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<v Speaker 1>one area to an airport or back from an airport

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<v Speaker 1>to that area, which sounds kind of like a park

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<v Speaker 1>and fly situation. Like based on that description, I think

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<v Speaker 1>you would have to drive to a facility that has

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<v Speaker 1>a landing pad, and then you would board a flying car,

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<v Speaker 1>get whisked away to the airport, and then you would

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<v Speaker 1>go through the joy that is navigating through an airport.

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<v Speaker 1>I remain somewhat skeptical that that's actually a good use

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<v Speaker 1>of technology and resources, but that might be because I

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<v Speaker 1>also live in a city where it's not that hard

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<v Speaker 1>to get to and from the major airport. So maybe

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<v Speaker 1>if I lived in Los Angeles or Manhattan or Tokyo,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I would feel differently, but as it stands, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sure that it's a viable business model. But I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. Maybe I'll be proven wrong. And that wraps

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<v Speaker 1>up the tech news for Tuesday, June twentieth, twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you are all well. Just ahead up. I

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<v Speaker 1>will be out next week taking a vacation. My plan

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<v Speaker 1>right now is to have some reruns run next week,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'll be back the following week with brand new episodes,

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<v Speaker 1>So just one to make you aware of that heading

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<v Speaker 1>into it. I'll probably mention it again at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the other episodes this week, and I'll talk to

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