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Speaker 1: Patriots Training Camp, this is Patriots Unfiltered. Hello everyone, and

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Speaker 1: welcome to a special edition of Patriots Unfiltered. We are

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Speaker 1: live from training Camp high above the practice fields behind

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Speaker 1: going to be here for the duration of training camp

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Speaker 1: practice today, so probably around eleven fifteen eleven thirty. It's

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Speaker 1: Fred Kirsh, Paul Perillo, Alex Francisco, and Mike Dusseau and

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Speaker 1: again we'll be here covering everything going on with training

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Speaker 1: camp for the next couple hours. You can call us

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Speaker 1: a lot going on Day two of the public practices

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Speaker 1: for Patriots Training Camp. Been in everyone. We've got a

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Speaker 1: off the top, what were your takes from yesterday? I mean,

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Speaker 1: And it looks like, you know, Mac has an early

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Speaker 1: But I thought the offense overall, some real nice throws

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Speaker 1: by Max, some good energy. As Paul wrote in Blocservations,

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Speaker 1: I think the wide receivers overall had a lot of energy.

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Speaker 1: thinking about just going back to Win real quick. You know,

426
00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:15,520
Speaker 1: it is a new move to right tackle with him,

427
00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:18,199
Speaker 1: And maybe that's why it's been an offseason thing. Like

428
00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,040
Speaker 1: they just went right into it. It wasn't like, hey,

429
00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,600
Speaker 1: let's kind of experiment with it. It's like, we're gonna

430
00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:24,600
Speaker 1: put you there. Get ready to play there. You know

431
00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:26,840
Speaker 1: that that's what the plan is. Might give him a

432
00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:28,760
Speaker 1: little bit more of a jump start on if they

433
00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,240
Speaker 1: started him on left tackle and then, say a week

434
00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:33,280
Speaker 1: in the training camp said, you know what, let's go

435
00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:35,639
Speaker 1: with the flip. Let's say Win has a great season

436
00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:40,359
Speaker 1: at right tackle. Do you resign him a great season? Yeah? Sure,

437
00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,280
Speaker 1: if he plays great, Yeah, I mean I try to.

438
00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:49,960
Speaker 1: I also I also think right tackle, but yeah, you'd

439
00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:51,720
Speaker 1: get a discount. You know, you're paying him as a

440
00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:53,240
Speaker 1: left tackle, you're paying them as a right tackle. I think.

441
00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,280
Speaker 1: But I still think both those sides are are of importance.

442
00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,480
Speaker 1: Just think your tackles are important. And I'm not looking

443
00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,320
Speaker 1: for a discount. I'm looking for good players. And if

444
00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:06,400
Speaker 1: he has a great season and suddenly you're like, that's

445
00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:10,240
Speaker 1: what we drafted, I'm definitely interested in resigning him because

446
00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,280
Speaker 1: you know, Trent Brown, I don't know how many years

447
00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:13,719
Speaker 1: he's gonna be here. I mean, he's got a two

448
00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:15,399
Speaker 1: year deal, but you're lucky if you get one on

449
00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,240
Speaker 1: off him. Let me, let's face it, he's he's a risk.

450
00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:19,480
Speaker 1: If he's a risk, it's it's gonna be hard. And

451
00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:21,359
Speaker 1: I mean you say, great season. I think the harder

452
00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,440
Speaker 1: decision is what if he just plays seventeen games in

453
00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,760
Speaker 1: his Fine, that's not a hard decision from it. You know,

454
00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:29,000
Speaker 1: if he plays seventeen season game plays the way he's

455
00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:32,560
Speaker 1: played when healthy the last three years, thank you, yes,

456
00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,320
Speaker 1: thank thank you. Good luck on the on the open market, goodbye.

457
00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:39,800
Speaker 1: Ye all right. I would say, uh, maybe a little

458
00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:43,440
Speaker 1: lighter crowd than yesterday, but still pretty good crowd. Bleachers

459
00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,400
Speaker 1: I'd say about seventy five percent full. Then you've got

460
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,800
Speaker 1: the hill that looks like it's pretty full. Um some

461
00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:54,040
Speaker 1: changes here to the practice fields. Um, they built this

462
00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,679
Speaker 1: big wall, so the bleachers are higher up than they

463
00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:01,240
Speaker 1: usually were, and then they've ended the field so there's

464
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:05,520
Speaker 1: more grass, and eventually when they restripe the field coming up,

465
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:07,680
Speaker 1: we're gonna have a full hundred yard it'll go from

466
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,119
Speaker 1: an eighty yard field to one hundred yard field. So

467
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,040
Speaker 1: when when when? When I got the update yesterday, when

468
00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:16,200
Speaker 1: did you hear? When did you hear that might happen? Paul? Uh,

469
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,840
Speaker 1: They're gonna try to let the sad really take I talked.

470
00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,320
Speaker 1: I was actually talking to one of the grounds crew

471
00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:26,000
Speaker 1: gots yesterday and the weeds are getting big jay journalists.

472
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:29,840
Speaker 1: I was getting I haven't been a big jay journalist

473
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:31,720
Speaker 1: since nineties. Did you find out? Is it a California

474
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:36,960
Speaker 1: sense of mere Jesus? But they yeah, they talked about

475
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,600
Speaker 1: they they extended. You could see for those of that

476
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,360
Speaker 1: have been here, maybe we're here yesterday and now listening.

477
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,000
Speaker 1: They put the goal posts back so you can see

478
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:49,160
Speaker 1: the extra grass that is uh you know, has been

479
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,120
Speaker 1: has been planted. And I think eventually they're gonna reline

480
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,840
Speaker 1: the fields and repaint them so they'll be a full

481
00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 1: hundred yards because I because originally I'm looking, I'm like, oh,

482
00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:00,200
Speaker 1: they shorten the fields because it looks like there's ten yards.

483
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,720
Speaker 1: Usually it went to the forty um and then now

484
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's painted in a way, so you

485
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 1: have a little bit less, but eventually it will be

486
00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 1: a full both of them will be full regulation fields. Yep.

487
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:17,399
Speaker 1: You can see uh, right in the bottom right of

488
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,399
Speaker 1: your screen. You can see just the edge of that

489
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 1: new wall that they built, um panned down to that.

490
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:25,920
Speaker 1: You know, you know my pitches. I think the next

491
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:27,879
Speaker 1: construction thing needs to happen here is we need to

492
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:31,640
Speaker 1: put some uh covering for the bleachers to give those

493
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,919
Speaker 1: fans some shade. I think it's one of the hottest

494
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 1: places on earth when it gets hot here in the summer,

495
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:37,280
Speaker 1: it's not a bad little bit a little bit of

496
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,880
Speaker 1: a tent cover those people up. I think uh might

497
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:41,640
Speaker 1: be might be nice. And so every year you gotta

498
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,119
Speaker 1: instead of printing, instead of making all the fans and

499
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 1: handing out manual little hand fans to everybody, just just

500
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 1: put it. Put put some covering up. Keep everybody cool.

501
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 1: It's so hot. Yeah, I would imagine that wouldn't be

502
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,440
Speaker 1: terribly hard to do. You know, some type of aluminum

503
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:59,640
Speaker 1: type of you know, roof over that it's get a canvas. Yeah,

504
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:01,879
Speaker 1: you just want you don't want to create any you

505
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,679
Speaker 1: don't want to create any obstructive view for anybody. That yeah, right,

506
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 1: Oh for sure. So getting a little little kind of

507
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:10,639
Speaker 1: walk through usually it's the kind of walkthrough stuff they

508
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:14,120
Speaker 1: do right before stretching. But setting the stage a little

509
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:19,159
Speaker 1: bit maybe. Yeah, and Bill pointing out too, Paul. We

510
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 1: talked about it yesterday, all about the extensive red zone work,

511
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,440
Speaker 1: and I want, I mean, is this why like backing

512
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 1: up the field a little bit to keep the end

513
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 1: zone away from the from the uprights? Is that no,

514
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 1: you know something? Maybe? No, Okay, I'm not according to

515
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 1: my sources, tell me see direct snapped to Jones and

516
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 1: uh and the Welton John's sightings yet right, I was

517
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,160
Speaker 1: kind of hoping he might come out here. I don't

518
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 1: think we will see him. No, No, from what I understand, Um,

519
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 1: is he actually here? He is, uh, you know, just

520
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 1: playing recordings. Yeah, this is supposedly his last tour. He

521
00:24:56,560 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 1: doesn't want really a lot of contact with human beings. Um,

522
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 1: because no, easy it just doesn't want to get the COVID. Yeah.

523
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 1: I would have been a good get on Patriots on

524
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 1: filter get Elton John comes out in this platform shoes. Yeah,

525
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:15,120
Speaker 1: so Marc Jones, what do you think, Elton? Yeah, but yeah,

526
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 1: they did have the concert last night, and I'll have

527
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:20,639
Speaker 1: another one tonight here to LUs Stadium, Melton, John, and

528
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:24,920
Speaker 1: you guys stay late. No, I would, I would if

529
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 1: I don't know, if there's any emails that go out

530
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,919
Speaker 1: about obstructive view seats or anything of the nature, I might,

531
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,680
Speaker 1: I might pop over. But yeah, that's an all time

532
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,679
Speaker 1: all timer, right, John, you can't. He couldn't pass up

533
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 1: that chance. That's true to see one of the greatest

534
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 1: just got him on his next farewell tour. Yeah, all right.

535
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 1: That does happen a lot, though, doesn't it. They changed

536
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 1: the name of the tour is Farewell Yellow Brick Road.

537
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 1: I don't know why they just didn't stick with Goodbye

538
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 1: Yellow Brick Road. I mean it, that'll be that, that'll

539
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 1: be the other one, that'll be the next one. First

540
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:57,640
Speaker 1: year fairly well, so, so long farewell of each Yeah,

541
00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 1: that's the order. I can't always come on sound of music.

542
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 1: Let's go so that I know what it is. I

543
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 1: just don't need to have a song to me. Eric's

544
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 1: no longer on the show. So this part of the

545
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 1: practice is really just they're kind of installing what they're

546
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:15,400
Speaker 1: going to do later when the offense and defense comes together.

547
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 1: So it's it's really just half speed, just kind of

548
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 1: walking through what they're gonna do later in the in

549
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:26,400
Speaker 1: the practice. But we see Freends as center. Yeah, does

550
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,680
Speaker 1: that answer the question that he's the backup center for sure? Yeah?

551
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 1: I mean just the veteran knows what he's doing. I

552
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 1: mean I think that's you know, generally, I feel like

553
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,920
Speaker 1: sometimes even when you've got somebody in that's new and exciting,

554
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,880
Speaker 1: they might keep the old veteran in there just because

555
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 1: he knows what he's doing and they want to establish

556
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 1: the right way to do things. Like an example might

557
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 1: be Brandon Bolden, where like you knew in the past,

558
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 1: all right, Damian Harris is going to be the guy,

559
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 1: but he's a rookie, doesn't know quite what he's doing.

560
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 1: Get Brandon Bolden in there, let him take the initial

561
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 1: reps and um. So that could be a too, but

562
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,439
Speaker 1: we'll keep an eye on Cody Russey. But you know,

563
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 1: just something to point out too. So we talk about

564
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,120
Speaker 1: when you know, the offense kind of divides up into

565
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 1: two groups and there's kind of an A group and

566
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 1: a B group, and you know, for all the hype

567
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 1: of you know, a Trey Nixon, he's still kind of

568
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 1: in that B group. So I mean it's it's, you know,

569
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 1: people I know want to see something out of him,

570
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,400
Speaker 1: but it's it's still going to be a long climb

571
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,439
Speaker 1: for him with all those veteran receivers. And I'm not

572
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 1: overreacting to one sort of non competitive day that we've had,

573
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 1: but he did not yeah, look good yesterday. I thought

574
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 1: he was covered very well on some of his some

575
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 1: of the plays that he was involved in. Okay, all right,

576
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 1: so I as you know, while the team is doing

577
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 1: you know, these warm ups or run throughs, let's take

578
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 1: a couple of calls at eight five five pats five hundred,

579
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 1: the Ace ticket hunt line. We'll start with Patty in Agawam.

580
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 1: What's up, Patty? What's up? Everyone? Hey, just got a

581
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 1: quick question regarding M. Devin Gotchaw's new contract. Do you

582
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 1: think this could possibly put Laurence Guy into that surprize

583
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:58,639
Speaker 1: cut candidate list? Yeah? Yeah, for this um yeah, or

584
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 1: even trade yeah, absolutely, But he doesn't he's not making

585
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 1: that much money. You don't And and like in the

586
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,159
Speaker 1: neighborhood of like three million this year, and Haddie, if

587
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 1: it's if they've determined that it's not Godshaw's fault that

588
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 1: they allow over four and a half yards to carry

589
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 1: as a team, then it's got to be someone's fault

590
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 1: that plays in the front seven. Yeah, so that's why

591
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,640
Speaker 1: I would say, Yes, that's my initial reaction. Someone's got

592
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 1: to be responsible for the fact that they can't stop

593
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 1: the run. And what's Henry Anderson's status right now? I

594
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 1: wanted to bring him up because Mike talked about him

595
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 1: yesterday sort of you know, dropping a little bit in

596
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 1: some of the reps and thanks, I'm just sort of

597
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 1: watching and he is over with the outside linebackers doing

598
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 1: some of the pre practice drills with Judean and Perkins

599
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 1: and some of those guys. You wouldn't necessarily think of

600
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: him and that that light. So I wonder if maybe

601
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,239
Speaker 1: they're you know, don't be stunned if you see him

602
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 1: as the guy setting the edge on the other side

603
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 1: of Judean at least initially. Great great observation, Paul, I mean,

604
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 1: it's Mike. I want to get the affirmation. No, it's

605
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: it's true. I didn't I didn't quite catch that, but

606
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 1: it was something that you know, we noted yesterday. And

607
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 1: he's one of those guys. I mean, it's not a

608
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 1: it's not a big deal, like a guy who can

609
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 1: on first second down set the edge and and and

610
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 1: be set that hard presence out there. I wondered if

611
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 1: it might be Anthony Jennings that that's he's got the size.

612
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 1: He kind of did that in college. Yeah, but I

613
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 1: still think that, you know, a proven veteran like Henry Anderson,

614
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 1: if he's comfortable doing that kind of thing, it could

615
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,239
Speaker 1: it could he could be right in the mix with

616
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 1: that position group because I think they're thin and before

617
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 1: I you know, sort of annoyed him as the starter.

618
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 1: He also could try to do that and they don't

619
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 1: really see it's a fit and they're like, well, what

620
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 1: is it exactly is it that you do here? And

621
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 1: then he's fawn too. Yeah. You know, when it comes

622
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 1: to when it comes to cut down, Elx is a

623
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: good audience as long as it's like after ninety five,

624
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 1: when she was born two thousand ish to the present,

625
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 1: she's she's a good audience when it comes to cut

626
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 1: down time. You know, we always talk about it's a

627
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 1: numbers game. You know. They can only keep so many

628
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 1: wide receivers so many, and they can only keep so

629
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 1: many interior tack especially if they're changing the defense a

630
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 1: little bit, you know, So how many they keep of

631
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 1: each position on defense gives us an indication of what

632
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 1: kind of defense they're gonna run. There were changing the defense,

633
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 1: well no, but I mean, like we talked about like

634
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 1: you know, you know, we had Evan Lazar on the

635
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 1: other day and he was talking about this dollar defense,

636
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Speaker 1: you know, where you've got seven, seven defensive backs. Well,

637
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 1: you know, if you have seven defensive backs, you have

638
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 1: don't have any less of something, you know, So maybe

639
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 1: you don't need that many interior defensive linemen. You know,

640
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 1: I don't know. Well, it's just with gotcha at least

641
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 1: tells you that there's there's a need going forward for

642
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Speaker 1: a big nose tackle type, you know, two gapping interior

643
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,239
Speaker 1: defensive linemen. So, uh, you know, had they had they

644
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 1: gone out and tried to match bar More, maybe maybe

645
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 1: it would be a little bit different. I mean, they're

646
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 1: always going to want a number of pieces to play

647
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,239
Speaker 1: different kind of fronts here and there. So I mean,

648
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 1: I think he is a useful piece, but it's gonna

649
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 1: be hard to say. I mean, I think more of

650
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 1: it is about the linebackers, and you know, without that

651
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 1: ability a high tower van noy to be inside on

652
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 1: early downs, to shift outside, to kind of move around,

653
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 1: how much of that can they do? You know with

654
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Speaker 1: ray Kwa McMillan, uh, you know, potentially with with mac

655
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 1: Wilson as well. Um, those are those are probably where

656
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 1: that the scheme change kind of tweaks. You're probably gonna

657
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 1: live so now and to continue the Henry Anderson stuff.

658
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 1: So now they've sort of broken apart a little bit,

659
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 1: and you know, the Judeon's, the ouchas um, you know,

660
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 1: and those types with the regular linebackers are a little

661
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 1: bit separate now from and Anderson is back with sort

662
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 1: of the traditional bigger bodies. But your boy, I think,

663
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 1: is that Jennings down there with Anderson. I can't it's

664
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Speaker 1: a little out of my range. Ut fifty eight or

665
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 1: fifty nine might be Sam Roberts, So he's with some

666
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: of the bigger guys now. Um, so you know, I

667
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 1: think they're still mixing and matching and trying to figure

668
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 1: out exactly, you know, to Fred's point, how you want

669
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Speaker 1: to employ the front seven. You know, how many how

670
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Speaker 1: many will you have in the front seven? How that

671
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 1: that's a good Uh yeah, that's an indie artist. How

672
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 1: many guys seven? Yeah, it might only be four five.

673
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 1: You know. One more thing I was thinking about yesterday.

674
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 1: You know, got got a lot of confusion initially with

675
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 1: the number one and Parker and Harry, But it really

676
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 1: took one practice for DeVante Parker to show you what

677
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: an actual contested catch receiver looks like compared to what

678
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 1: we respected, compared to what they told you. Harry was

679
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 1: he saw one practice where he had two three four catches,

680
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 1: tight coverage. Mac was able to put it on him

681
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 1: and get it. You know, maybe you saw one or

682
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,959
Speaker 1: two of those from during training camp from Harry. Everyone

683
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 1: you knows, Oh well, he's good at contest to catch.

684
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 1: That's what a contest to catch receiver looks like. Somebody

685
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 1: that you can trust when the guy's right on him.

686
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 1: You know that. And I think that kind of illustrates

687
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 1: what they were probably hoping that they got and what

688
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 1: now they're hoping they're getting out of. Let's get back

689
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 1: to the phones. Let's go to Roger and Kentucky what's up, Roger? Hey, guys,

690
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 1: how's everybody doing? Good? Man? Hey, I got a comment

691
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 1: and two quick questions for you. First comment is I

692
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Speaker 1: forgot who who was it called earlier in the week

693
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 1: or it might have been last week, But I agree

694
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 1: you all should do a video podcast. Okay. I would

695
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 1: watch the heck out of that every day? All right? Okay,

696
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 1: well almost every day. I missed yesterday's podcast, so I

697
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 1: was wondering what the chemistry between Mac and the receivers are.

698
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Speaker 1: And then my last question, I'll take the answers off

699
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Speaker 1: the airs. Who's going to replace Eric as a snooty

700
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 1: know it all? We got Alex. We'll fight out, probably

701
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 1: won't be for a while, but we got one of

702
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 1: the pip I don't know about snooty. Thanks rogers A.

703
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 1: So what was his first question? Again? Um? The chemistry

704
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 1: with right now pretty great? Look pretty good. If he

705
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: was working around yesterday, it seemed like to the main guys,

706
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Speaker 1: everybody you know had at least one or two pretty

707
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 1: good little catches and other I don't think there's any

708
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 1: doubt that at some point during training camp we'll find

709
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 1: out that he's been named the captain mate, right, I

710
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:13,320
Speaker 1: think Mac has like genuinely taking taken hold of the team.

711
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,280
Speaker 1: I don't think there's is You're not hearing as many

712
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 1: comments as we are from these different players if it

713
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 1: was all fake, you know, I think I think he's

714
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 1: impressed people with his work ethic, his commitment, his uh,

715
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 1: his leadership. I think all around. I think people have

716
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: been impressed with him. And it's and they're telling you,

717
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:37,439
Speaker 1: you know, like born offensive line. I mean, Trent Brown,

718
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 1: you say said, listen, I'm not in the business of

719
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,879
Speaker 1: evaluating our quarterback, but he's a great player and he's

720
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 1: going to be our quarterback for a long time or

721
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 1: something along those lines. I don't think that you just

722
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 1: say stuff like that just as lip service when it's

723
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 1: so many different guys. And to your point too, it's

724
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 1: not that they're just saying it kind of like company line,

725
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:56,919
Speaker 1: that's what you say. It's like their eyes are really

726
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 1: lighting up when they're talking about him, their smiles like them.

727
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 1: I think they really do. Yep, it's not really hard

728
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 1: to see why. It's just the way he carries himself.

729
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 1: He just seems like, you know, he loves football, good kid,

730
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,280
Speaker 1: able to laugh a little bit. I mean, I loved yesterday.

731
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Speaker 1: Where's the middle of the press conference, somebody, I love

732
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 1: you back, and you know he kind of laughed a

733
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 1: little joker laugh. But uh, it's just a likable guy.

734
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 1: And then, like we said many times, he's just done

735
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 1: all the right stuff this offseason and you know, now

736
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 1: it's about putting it on the field. And it's just

737
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 1: been one day. So again, I don't like to overreact,

738
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 1: but haven't seen any of the signs of the tennis

739
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 1: player that we saw last year during training. Cool, I

740
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,879
Speaker 1: like that, Oh when things when things go wrong, yeah,

741
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 1: the mac and row. Yeah yeah, well not a lot

742
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 1: went wrong yesterday. So but but well, I mean there

743
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 1: were times when the defense was knocking passes away and

744
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: you know, making life difficulty. Yet you know a couple

745
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 1: of times he was forced to hold the ball and

746
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 1: last year might have elicited a couple of those pounding

747
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 1: of the thighpads and you know, storming back. I mean,

748
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,320
Speaker 1: mind that as long as you bounced right back. Yeah,

749
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 1: you know, like I think that was an issue for

750
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,280
Speaker 1: him last year. Yeah, I think he got down on himself.

751
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 1: I mean I think it was an issue for the

752
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: whole offense. You know, I think when they got down,

753
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 1: it was it was a tough grind to get it.

754
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:08,879
Speaker 1: And that's why, you know, maybe it's not this week,

755
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:10,840
Speaker 1: maybe it's in the proverbial dog days of summer in

756
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 1: the next couple of weeks, but you know, you want

757
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 1: to see that day where they're not on and they're struggling,

758
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 1: and how does Mac rally those troops, you know, what

759
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 1: is his I mean, I'm sure you guys saw it

760
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 1: a hundred times out here when Brady wasn't happy with

761
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:26,359
Speaker 1: how things were going and start yelling and tell him.

762
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 1: He'd tell them to do it and get him in gear,

763
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 1: and so that they'd want to bring him out and

764
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 1: bring in you know whoever the backup is he's like, no, yeah,

765
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 1: we're gonna do this again. And that's you know, and

766
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 1: that's I think what's been part of Mac, you know,

767
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 1: going back to you know, Alabama his his first year

768
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 1: when he first died. I think it was Auburn that

769
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: he lost too. It was a back and forth game.

770
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 1: He got Clawbert, he got sacked a bunch. I think,

771
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 1: you know, generally he's been able to bounce back in

772
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 1: his career. Um, but I'd love to see you know,

773
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 1: a bad day of practice from the offense, how do

774
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 1: they do the next day. You know, there's going to

775
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 1: be times this season that they aren't able to do

776
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 1: what they want to do. They they're gonna have to

777
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,919
Speaker 1: be mentally tough because there's so many good offenses. They're

778
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:02,800
Speaker 1: gonna have to put up points. And if it doesn't

779
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 1: go great in the first quarter, they're gonna have to

780
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 1: be able to get their buttsing gear. You don't be

781
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 1: able to put up some points if they're going to

782
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 1: be a legitimate playoff contending team this year. All right,

783
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 1: let's go to Chris and North Carolina on the East

784
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: ticket hut line. What's up, Chris? Hey, what's going on? Man?

785
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: Sitting here with the boys watching the show this morning? Sable? Nice? Nice?

786
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: I wish I was with you guys. Good time. Now,

787
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 1: what kind of device are you're watching us on? We're

788
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 1: watching on YouTube, but usually man, I were watching y'all

789
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 1: on my phone, so you know it's either way. You

790
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 1: always catch up. Okay, thank you, get on the big

791
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 1: screen big screen conjections. I did add two questions, m Well,

792
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 1: I wanted to know who you think might take on

793
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 1: the number one CB position this year and also, which

794
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 1: players do we do you think that we have now

795
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 1: that our solid tacklers that gonna help out in the

796
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 1: run defense. Okay, good questions. So who's gonna be the

797
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 1: number one cornerback? Who's gonna be your number one with

798
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 1: tackles this year? Right? I guess against the run? Yeah,

799
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 1: I mean I kind of look at it kind of,

800
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 1: thanks Chris. The receivers where it's not really a number one,

801
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 1: it's kind of an A and a B. And perhaps

802
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:17,479
Speaker 1: probably right now, probably Terrence Mitchell maybe and Jalen Mills

803
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 1: might be that the two starters, but I couldn't tell

804
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,320
Speaker 1: you if either one of them is the quote unquote

805
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 1: number one. I mean, I think they're going to be

806
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 1: the two starters. But well, you know, so here's the

807
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 1: thing about cornerback. Okay, you know, Jonathan Jones is probably

808
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: the guy with the most experience right now. Sure I'm

809
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 1: the team, but he's going to be more of an

810
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,439
Speaker 1: inside guy. And you don't really look at those guys

811
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 1: as your number one corner you know, you look at

812
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 1: your number one corners the guy that handles the other

813
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 1: team's best receiver you know, most of the game. So

814
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 1: who is that they don't have that. Yeah, yeah, I

815
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: said Jalen Mills is their number one corner because he's

816
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 1: the only guy that I know will play, you know,

817
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,320
Speaker 1: provided that he's healthy. But to you a point, Freddie,

818
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: I don't think Jalen Mills is a We're gonna match

819
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 1: him up with Tyreek Hill guy, right or Jalen Wattle

820
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 1: guy like you know, Stefan Diggs, you know, just you know,

821
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 1: Mike went down the murderers role or receivers that they're

822
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:11,399
Speaker 1: going to see this year. I don't think that Jalen

823
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 1: Mills is a matchup guy. So so does that does that,

824
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 1: you know, uh, lend to the theory that you know,

825
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 1: this is gonna be a zone heavy team. That's what

826
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 1: I was just kind of thinking. I mean, do they

827
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 1: have their horses? Do they have the horses to match

828
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,720
Speaker 1: up one for one or is it just gonna play sides,

829
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 1: you know like they used to. And I mean I

830
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:30,720
Speaker 1: think they have a lot of auctions on the inside,

831
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 1: like you mentioned, Fred, between the safeties, between some of

832
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 1: the you know, new linebackers. Um, but it's it's hard

833
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,879
Speaker 1: to say that all we there's no there's no real

834
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 1: difference between you know, Mills and Mitchell and you know,

835
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,359
Speaker 1: maybe even Butler. They're all kind of similar players. So

836
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 1: we'll see. But now be prior to like them getting

837
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:56,320
Speaker 1: revers or you know, you know, uh to lead, weren't

838
00:39:56,360 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 1: they mostly his zone? Yea, yeah, I mean annual. Yeah,

839
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:02,399
Speaker 1: I mean I think, I mean, I think Tai Long

840
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 1: was definitely no more. Yeah, but there was not probably

841
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: a little bit more of a zone. And that was

842
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 1: that stretch after Samuel left where they when they didn't

843
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 1: have corners. Yeah, they were just searching. Yeah, and that's

844
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 1: what Mike said, like they went to sides. Yeah, they

845
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 1: didn't have guys. Yeah, a lot of a lot of

846
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,320
Speaker 1: you know, covered three and just you know, strong safety

847
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 1: Rodney in the box. And I mean I had those

848
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 1: secondaries do oh well, that's the thing. If you can

849
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 1: play man, you play man, right, you know, that's what

850
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 1: you do because it frees people up, it gives you

851
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 1: more flexibility. Um. And I mean in the theory was

852
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 1: at least you know what we were pumping at the

853
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 1: time when they went to leave. And then as you mentioned,

854
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 1: like Rivus and everything was just that quarterbacks and receivers

855
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: are too good like you, They're gonna find the holes

856
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 1: in the zones. You know, there's no zone defense that's

857
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 1: gonna be perfect. I mean, I know they play a

858
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 1: lot of you know, match coverage, which is kind of

859
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 1: a mix of of man and zone where you know,

860
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 1: guy crosses and you take them. So you know there'll

861
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 1: be a lot of elements of that too, which kind

862
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 1: of marries some of the concepts between man and zone.

863
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 1: But I just think it's a matchup league. And you

864
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 1: look at the outside cornerbacks that they have and the

865
00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 1: outside receivers that they got a face and and it

866
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,320
Speaker 1: looked like right now, advantage opponents. You see some of

867
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 1: the defensive lineman doing a drill now where they start

868
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,439
Speaker 1: in a shoot and the idea is to stay low,

869
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 1: drive out of that shoot, don't touch it. Um low

870
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,240
Speaker 1: man wins Fred. Yeah. So that's a iron sharp AND's irons.

871
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,839
Speaker 1: That's a fairly new contraption. I think they came up

872
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 1: with that last year. What's the first year they used this.

873
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know about you guys, but coming

874
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 1: back to even my stupid high school football days, we

875
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 1: had a thing kind of similar that you know, made

876
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 1: you made you have to get down. It was made

877
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 1: a metal you know, but oz was made a rope.

878
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 1: But I think it's it's, you know, the concept at

879
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,359
Speaker 1: least of just keeping your pad level down and trying

880
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 1: to get your helmet on it. Of course, myself, as

881
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 1: a i'd call myself a high cut hip bender, was

882
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 1: not able to get under those things very easily. But yeah,

883
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 1: it's you know, all about pad level and staying down

884
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 1: and staying in a in a good athletic stance. Yep,

885
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:54,280
Speaker 1: web radio at Patriots dot com is the email address,

886
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: and we've got a whole bunch of them. Jack and

887
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 1: an Aba writes, And given that the Patriots unfiltered team

888
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 1: feels that Gotcha was a disappointment last season, does the

889
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 1: Patriots extension of Gotscha's contract indicate the Patriots believe Godsha

890
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 1: will make a significant year to jump in performance or

891
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 1: does it indicate the Patriots are worried about depth at

892
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: defensive tackle, so they're extending Gotcha because though he has

893
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 1: been a disappointment, he's still one of the three best

894
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 1: defensive tackles on the team. Can I pick a different

895
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: option than was given? Okay, I think they think they

896
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 1: think he was better than we do, right, Yeah, I

897
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:32,760
Speaker 1: think you know, plus you know, Bill likes Drew Rosenhausen. Yeah,

898
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean, I mean, clearly if if this guy,

899
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 1: you know, just just don't be afraid to walk into

900
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 1: this those just walking on? What's that? What's happened? You

901
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,879
Speaker 1: pay attention to that stuff? Chocolate chip COOKI guys, we'll

902
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 1: get it later. Yeah, I'm on a diet. I'm on

903
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 1: a diet. We got start traveling, I know, I know.

904
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 1: Just just just want a show, a show. That's why

905
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 1: we love Zoe, you know, Paul Zoe kind of falls

906
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 1: to Zoe show right there. You know, Zoe kind of

907
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 1: falls into Alex's gray zone though mid nineties like quarterback

908
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 1: mid nineties, Patriots quarterback of quarterback. It is, that's the

909
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 1: Zoe experience right there. Yeah, it is. No, but I

910
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,760
Speaker 1: do I feel like, yeah, I'm if I'm being honest,

911
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't see a whole lot from Godshall

912
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 1: last year. But clearly they didn't think about him the

913
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 1: way I do. Right well, they wouldn't have done that yesterday.

914
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 1: I mean, all jokes about Rosenhouse aside, that's like they

915
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 1: clearly thought that they got more out of him than

916
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 1: I thought they got out you know, And let's face it,

917
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 1: they know more than we. I mean, come on, I'm

918
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 1: not trying to be like stubborn about this. They they're

919
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 1: the coaches. I consider it vindication because I was saying

920
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: that I think God Show is better than people are

921
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 1: giving credit for it. So I was vindicated there. You know,

922
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: well again, because you think everything Bill does is right.

923
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 1: I said it seventeen record post Brady, I said it

924
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 1: before Bill did the extension. No, I know, but you

925
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:08,839
Speaker 1: think you're vindicated because Bill agrees with you. I think

926
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 1: he's vindicated because do you know what I'm saying, right,

927
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 1: your vindication comes from the fact that Bill apprees with you.

928
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 1: I don't know, like you know, the best coach in

929
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,879
Speaker 1: the history of football agrees with me. Yeah, I look

930
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 1: at that as vindication. We'll see, you know, we'll see.

931
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 1: I mean, if they allow four point eight to carry again, no,

932
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 1: you'll be wrong again. And if it's his fault, I'll

933
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 1: be wrong. So you're just gonna say it's not his fault.

934
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,800
Speaker 1: I don't know. I will again, look at what they do,

935
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 1: don't look at what they say. Right, But again, they

936
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 1: don't always do the right thing, Okay, but most of

937
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 1: the time they do not post Brady today. All right,

938
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 1: Alex writes in from Pentucket. It says he loves the coverage.

939
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 1: I'm curious in your opinion from watching yesterday, does Mack

940
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 1: look different than last year? Or do we need the

941
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 1: pads on to really tell? I wasn't sure if you

942
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: noticed anything about max demeanor or if he's playing faster.

943
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 1: Just wanted to know if Mac does look different in

944
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 1: year two. Also, is the knee brace Mac is wearing

945
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 1: mean he's injured or is it precautionary. I think the

946
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: knee brace is here to stay. I think he looks, uh,

947
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 1: you know, he looks a little more in control. I'm

948
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 1: not gonna lie to and tell you that his arm

949
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 1: looks stronger or that he looks more in control. I mean, right,

950
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 1: you're just watching him kind of do drills. It looks

951
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 1: a lot like it looked last year. His demeanor, I

952
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 1: would say, we talked about a little bit. I think

953
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 1: I think it looks a little better, But physically I

954
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: don't see any different in terms of demeanor and comportment. Yes,

955
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 1: you know, he looks he's a different guy. He looks

956
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 1: more comfortable, more comfortable, all of that stuff on the

957
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 1: on the eyeball test I would say, looks different. Yeah, physically,

958
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,839
Speaker 1: I agree with me because remember, remember the circumstances last

959
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 1: year as a rookie, He's coming at Cam Newton was

960
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 1: still on the team. Yeah, you know, so there's no

961
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 1: way Cam Newton was gonna let anybody upstage him on

962
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 1: the field. And Mac wasn't in the business of trying

963
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 1: to do that at that point. You know, he's just

964
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 1: trying to understand where to go from drill to drill.

965
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 1: But now he knows. Yeah, I would just sum it up.

966
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 1: I think, you know, last year really impressed with his

967
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:07,439
Speaker 1: presence and just for a rookie, looking comfortable overall. And

968
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 1: I think now he's just descended into the role of

969
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:11,479
Speaker 1: this is this is my team. You know, he knows

970
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 1: he's the returning I mean we talked this offseason about

971
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 1: when was the last time Mac was the returning starting

972
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 1: quarterback for a team. I mean it was just hype

973
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 1: of the first time since you know, so it's it's

974
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 1: a little bit of a new thing for him, but

975
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 1: I think he's he's he's up to the task. And

976
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 1: you know, again, just to bring it back to like

977
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 1: it's just it's it's it's going to come down to

978
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 1: the games and production, the key moments and you know,

979
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: but I have no I have no knits to pick

980
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,240
Speaker 1: about anything Mac Jones has done, you know, since his arrival,

981
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,359
Speaker 1: and I think he's given us everything that he can.

982
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 1: So it's uh, some real nice throws yesterday too. We

983
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 1: saw some real nice throws last year in camp as well.

984
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 1: So uh, I'm excited to see the pads come on

985
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 1: and you know, see a little bit more competitive periods

986
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,359
Speaker 1: and then that'll push him in the offense a little

987
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 1: bit more to Sean writes in h he's from New Milford.

988
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 1: I assume that's maybe Connecticut, not sure, but he says,

989
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:02,280
Speaker 1: I was thinking of coming to the Friday practice, wondering

990
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 1: how early I should get there, and is parking free? Yep,

991
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 1: parking is free, and I don't I don't know if

992
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:11,839
Speaker 1: Friday will be any different, But I don't think your

993
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 1: timing is all that important. I think getting here, I

994
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 1: think there's looks like people are haven't have plenty of

995
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 1: room to sort of move around and spread around. Yes

996
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 1: two days. I talked to a couple of fans yesterday

997
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 1: and the first people on mine we're here at eleven

998
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 1: thirty the night previous, which is insane and not necessary.

999
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,919
Speaker 1: And then like a few people back in line, they're like, yeah,

1000
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:35,439
Speaker 1: we got here at seven. Yeah, we're right up front

1001
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 1: against the ropes. So I think Friday will be good.

1002
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:41,399
Speaker 1: Practice starts at nine thirty, So anytime before that it's good.

1003
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 1: Parking is free. If you're coming Saturday, it might be

1004
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 1: a little bit more crowded if you're looking for, you know,

1005
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 1: one of the park seats and the bleachers. Um, you

1006
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 1: might want to get here a little earlier on Saturday,

1007
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 1: but I think you'll be fine tomorrow. Even then, Like

1008
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 1: they're not going to be in pad so I'm not

1009
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 1: sure it's going to be that much different. But they

1010
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:03,320
Speaker 1: just it's Saturday. Lets you know, Bill said, most people, Paul,

1011
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,720
Speaker 1: most of the people that come here are kids with family.

1012
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 1: They don't they don't listen to all that. They just oh,

1013
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 1: it's it's free, so thanks Fred. Yeah, I'm autographs. I'm

1014
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 1: telling you, they're just coming from autographs and free and

1015
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 1: food and all that tape. They don't they don't actually

1016
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 1: listen or read anither thing that thinks that you do.

1017
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 1: The mom with the three kids, No, they're not you know,

1018
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 1: if they're not, that's thought they were gonna be hitting

1019
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 1: todayymrow right, But honestly, like a great way to come

1020
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 1: spend a Friday or Saturday. There's not much free in

1021
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 1: the world anymore. Great take. Yeah, it's a great take

1022
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:39,919
Speaker 1: if you have, especially if you have young kids. Yeah.

1023
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 1: And I would say too, like when I used to come,

1024
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 1: you know, back before, it could be so packed here

1025
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 1: that you couldn't even really be comfortable and watch the practice.

1026
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 1: I think it's still a crowded day, but at least

1027
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 1: you have room to kind of move around a little bit.

1028
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 1: They're still you know, if you want to squeeze into

1029
00:48:55,840 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 1: a seat somewhere in the in the bleachers, they're there.

1030
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 1: Is tomorrow's practice, isn't the season ticket holder now that

1031
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 1: a week from week from tomorrow? I've thought so because Tim,

1032
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 1: our friend from Duncan writes in he says, with the

1033
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 1: pad's not coming on until Monday, do you think that

1034
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 1: Friday season ticket holder practice will involve some real scrimmaging.

1035
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 1: I go most years, but they seem to do little

1036
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 1: compared to some of the other practices. So that's next Friday, Yeah, right,

1037
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 1: And they're supposed to have four practices before that, so

1038
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 1: it could very well just be the kind of in

1039
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 1: stadium walkthrough of the game protocols like this is what

1040
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 1: the where we come out, this is where we stand

1041
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 1: for the national anthem, this is where we go for halftime,

1042
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 1: you know, all that that kind of technical stuff, which

1043
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 1: is interesting. I don't think we've ever had one of

1044
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 1: those closed season ticket holder practice where it had hitting.

1045
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,360
Speaker 1: I said that, Yes, yeah, I agree. I couldn't remember

1046
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 1: what you and you've seen them all in all seriousness, Yeah,

1047
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 1: I don't think. Um, I don't think they're very and

1048
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 1: you know it's a it's out of their schedule, it's

1049
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 1: a night practice. You know, usually they've had practices leading

1050
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:03,319
Speaker 1: up to it. Yeah. Um, it's kind of just more

1051
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 1: of a like celebration, get the fans back in the stadium.

1052
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Speaker 1: Last year, they throw the ball all over the place,

1053
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:09,320
Speaker 1: so the receivers are making a lot of catch it.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm serious, I mean sort of putting on

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00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 1: a little bit, you know. You know, I something that

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00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:17,799
Speaker 1: be fuddled me yesterday josh Ucha talking about like there

1057
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 1: weren't fans here last year at training camp. He was like, oh,

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00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 1: this is great to have fans back here and like,

1059
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 1: weren't their fans last year? Like there were a lot

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Speaker 1: of people that were like said that this was the

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00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 1: first fans time back, and I'm like, we have before

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00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 1: I say anything more. We did, right, we did? I

1063
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 1: thank you? I swear to God. I was like, right, well,

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00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 1: they only swear we held crowds last year, and I

1065
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:41,240
Speaker 1: was like, they did not, you know, I was told

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Speaker 1: they did not. I did the hype thing last year.

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00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:47,360
Speaker 1: We talked to the crowds last year. I Oh, I

1068
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:49,800
Speaker 1: wish I were we talking to nobody. I was trying

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Speaker 1: to like a broken all the references yesterday, and I

1070
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 1: think it was because of that quote. I think you're right.

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Speaker 1: And I was like, huh, I could swear we had

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Speaker 1: crowds last year at training camp and I would just

1073
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 1: was another one of those shake my head moments, like

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Speaker 1: the old man's he can't even remember from one year

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00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 1: to the next. I started to think the same thing

1076
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 1: I was questioned or my own like experience of talking

1077
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:14,399
Speaker 1: to the crowd. But yeah, the only thing different this

1078
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 1: year from last year is that this year there will

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00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 1: be autographs, there's more contact. That is a change. Yes,

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00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:24,880
Speaker 1: they Yeah, that was off limits last year and they

1081
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 1: were signing yesterday. Yeah, I think the wide receivers signed,

1082
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken yesterday, Cody writes in from Indiana,

1083
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:34,319
Speaker 1: piggybacking on a couple of calls. I also would watch

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Speaker 1: a video stream of the podcast. You already do it

1085
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,320
Speaker 1: for the pre and postgame shows. I don't really understand

1086
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 1: the reticence that you have for video, especially considering how

1087
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 1: you are the original podcast. Most pods nowadays are simulcast

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00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 1: on video. I would think of Face the Nation worthy

1089
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 1: podcast in twenty twenty two would embrace the trends of

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Speaker 1: the day. Football question, what would you set the over

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00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:01,720
Speaker 1: under for Davante Parker catch his yards and touchdowns at

1092
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 1: this year? I don't. I mean, I don't think the

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00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:07,799
Speaker 1: catches are unnecessarily mean. I think his career average usually

1094
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 1: he's in like the forty to sixty ranges, is you know,

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00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 1: I mean, they always had injury issues, so that colors um.

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Speaker 1: But I would say, you know, not a lot of catches,

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00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 1: maybe like around forty fifty. But I think it's a touchdowns.

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00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 1: I mean, we saw yesterday he could be a real,

1099
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 1: you know, red zone threat, especially on the outside. So um,

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Speaker 1: we you know, we'd love to see him get five

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Speaker 1: plus touchdowns, but you know, even he's around fifty catches

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Speaker 1: sixty seven yeah over hunders. Yeah, that sounds about fifty

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Speaker 1: eight hundred and five. Right, okay, what do you yeah,

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Speaker 1: um ninety eight, I'm gonna say seven six touchdowns. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna say a record seventy nine hundred and six. Well,

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Speaker 1: what did uh, Paul, if you would wouldn't mind climbing

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Speaker 1: up out of Mount Cooks for a moment. What did

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Speaker 1: what did Cookie have here in his in his one year?

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00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:02,799
Speaker 1: Because he had eleven hundred yards? Yeah, yeah, I don't

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Speaker 1: remember how many catches because I definitely a little different.

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Speaker 1: That's the stat out of those that I care the

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00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 1: least about it. It's yards and production, you know, like

1113
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:12,800
Speaker 1: what did he average per to catch? What did he

1114
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 1: get in the end zone at all? Did he make

1115
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 1: first dounds or his catches impactful? Yeah? You know, there's

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Speaker 1: just a little programming note for everybody. In less than

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Speaker 1: a minute, we'll be going dark in terms of the

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Speaker 1: video per team rules. You know, once they go into

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Speaker 1: the team drills, we can't put that live, but we

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Speaker 1: will continue with the show. Well, it'll be audio only,

1121
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 1: So just stay where you are, keep listening, and we'll

1122
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 1: try to visualize everything for you as best we can,

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Speaker 1: but the video will be going away and in a

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Speaker 1: matter of seconds here, so just just so if you

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Speaker 1: see that, it's nothing wrong. It's just what we have

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Speaker 1: to do. Sixty five for eleven hundred and seven, so

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Speaker 1: you have at sixteen point six. Yeah, it was ten

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Speaker 1: to eighty two to be exactly yards, all right. I

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00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 1: mean maybe a little high, but I think that's in

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Speaker 1: the general neighborhood and also probably the role that he

1131
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 1: he would play. All right, you hear that horn. That

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Speaker 1: indicates the end of this session. So we're no video

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Speaker 1: for the rest of the show, but we will be

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Speaker 1: here for the rest of practice. Matt Morrel is at

1135
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Speaker 1: a good time to take a break. Okay, let's do

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Speaker 1: Q two twenty twenty Live from Patriots training camp. This

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Speaker 1: is Patriots Unfiltered all right, welcome back. We are audio

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00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 1: only until the end of practice. But it's Fred Kurz,

1203
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Speaker 1: Paul Pirillo, Alex Francisco and Mike do So visualizing everything

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Speaker 1: for you. High above the practice fields behind Gillette Stadium.

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Speaker 1: Eight five five Pats five hundred is the eighth ticket.

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Speaker 1: Hut Line web radio at Patriots dot com is the

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Speaker 1: email address. And uh, guys want or anyone tell us

1208
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:31,919
Speaker 1: what's going on right now? What are what's the team doing?

1209
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 1: They started a little seven on seven stuff and it

1210
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 1: was interesting. They had Zappi takes some of the reps initially.

1211
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 1: Now it looks like you have more of the front

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00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:42,920
Speaker 1: liners out there with mac uh, you know, starting off

1213
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 1: as they typically do with a quick, quick hitter to

1214
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 1: the flat. That one was to Tie Montgomery, who you know,

1215
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Speaker 1: he's a guy to keep in mind too, with you know,

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Speaker 1: the versatility that he obviously provides a sort of a

1217
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 1: hybrid player. I wouldn't be stunned to see him, you know,

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Speaker 1: carve out that kind of a role. It seems like

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00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 1: he's definitely in the the upper echelon Nix. Yeah, as

1220
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 1: I said, you would be, um guy who is a

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00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 1: running back who also plays wide receiver. You know, just

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00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 1: a couple of a couple of things point out I saw, Um,

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00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:15,920
Speaker 1: I think ray Kwon McMillan is certainly seems like the

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00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 1: guy at the top of the linebacker depth chart next

1225
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 1: to Jawan Bentley. But also saw uh some other reps

1226
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 1: with Mac Wilson, you know, calling the defense too. So

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00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 1: two guys, I think definitely we'll be in the mix

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Speaker 1: and and we'll be a big part of replacing some

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00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 1: of those veteran linebackers. The weather today and yesterday just beautiful. Um,

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Speaker 1: a little bit more muggy today, I would say a

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Speaker 1: little bit more overcast, but just you know, we haven't

1232
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Speaker 1: had the heat wave that we've had the last week

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Speaker 1: or two. So if you're a player, um, you know

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Speaker 1: you're thankful that it's not too bad. There's a breeze

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Speaker 1: going on. Uh So, just just perfect weather here for

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Speaker 1: training camp. It's great for the fans. Black of sun.

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Speaker 1: Today's great, I mean just a little hazy, but yep,

1238
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Speaker 1: not getting baked. Eight five five paths one hundred is

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Speaker 1: a sticket hotline. Uh, the phones are stacked, so let's

1240
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Speaker 1: get him. Edward is in South Carolina. What's that? What's

1241
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Speaker 1: up Edward? Edward? It's your time to shine Edward in

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Speaker 1: three two one? Sorry you missed your opportunity. Let's go

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Speaker 1: to Neil in New Jersey. What's up, Neil? Uh? Neil?

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Speaker 1: I don't think it out there. Seems like it's a

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Speaker 1: Fred problem up there? We Goil, what's up? Good morning?

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Speaker 1: How are you guys? Good? So I want to ask

1247
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Speaker 1: you guys, regarding Jack Jones and Marcus Jones or rookies,

1248
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:42,760
Speaker 1: do you see them having some decent plane time and

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01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:47,440
Speaker 1: one of them probably even starting well, I you know,

1250
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Speaker 1: of the two when it comes to actually playing on defense,

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Speaker 1: do you think Jack Jones has the edge? Maybe? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean there's not much above him. I mean he's

1253
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Speaker 1: kind of the second group of cornerbacks, so I mean he's,

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01:00:57,720 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 1: you know, maybe third in the depth chart right now

1255
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Speaker 1: with him and Malcolm Butler kind of the second grouping.

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Speaker 1: So I think he's gonna have every chance to compete

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Speaker 1: for that job. But I think the most direct way

1258
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Speaker 1: to get somebody probably likely will be Marcus Jones, at

1259
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:10,439
Speaker 1: least as the punt returner. But right now it seems

1260
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 1: like Jack Jones in the mix on the outside corner position,

1261
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 1: Marcus punt returner, probably more of a slot yeah. I

1262
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:21,120
Speaker 1: mean it all depends on on health. Like Marcus Jones

1263
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 1: is getting a lot of reps in the slot with

1264
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:26,080
Speaker 1: Sean Wade right now, but Jonathan Jones is not practicing.

1265
01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:29,600
Speaker 1: So if Jonathan Jones is part of the mix, you

1266
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:33,360
Speaker 1: figured he's he'd be the first, the first option inside,

1267
01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 1: Whereas I think Jack Jones is probably I don't know,

1268
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 1: maybe four. You know, if you if you go to

1269
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 1: Jalen Mills and Terrence Mitchell and Malcolm Butler. But again,

1270
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:45,400
Speaker 1: these things can change. It's it's fluid. I think that

1271
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:50,320
Speaker 1: you'll see Jack Jones probably as part of the mix defensively,

1272
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:53,240
Speaker 1: and maybe Marcus, if everybody is healthy, is more of

1273
01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:55,520
Speaker 1: a as Mike said, more of a punt return option. Yeah.

1274
01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 1: Tamara made a good point this morning just talking about

1275
01:01:57,960 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 1: you know, Jack Jones is the kind of guy we

1276
01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 1: saw on minim getting his hands on a lot of

1277
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:04,160
Speaker 1: love balls, just actively involved. So I think if he

1278
01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:07,600
Speaker 1: can start to get that going again, um, he might

1279
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:09,280
Speaker 1: have a chance to kind of push things. I mean

1280
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:12,640
Speaker 1: it's I don't think much is setting stone at cornerback? Yeah,

1281
01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 1: answer your question. Okay, that answers my question. Do you

1282
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:22,560
Speaker 1: have concerns about his height though from the outside, Yeah, sure, yeah, definitely.

1283
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 1: I mean I was just looking at him through the

1284
01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:27,880
Speaker 1: two those and I mean it's more. I mean Marcus

1285
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:31,120
Speaker 1: seems just kind of short. I mean Jack Jones is

1286
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:33,800
Speaker 1: more skinny like Marcus is is kind of squatty. But

1287
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:37,520
Speaker 1: but Jack is lean and but Paul, you know quick,

1288
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:39,520
Speaker 1: it's not about the dog in the fight. It's about

1289
01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:41,880
Speaker 1: the fight in the dog. Thank you, Kevin Faalk Okay,

1290
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:47,520
Speaker 1: thanks Dale guy. All right, let's go to Christian in LA.

1291
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 1: What's up Christian? Hey, good morning guys, and training camp

1292
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:54,720
Speaker 1: is back and we are underway. Um, so here's my

1293
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 1: quick surprise cut for the season here for training camp.

1294
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:03,880
Speaker 1: I believe Pierre Strong and also Thailandgomery are going to

1295
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:06,000
Speaker 1: really turn it up and turn it on as far

1296
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:08,840
Speaker 1: as catching out the backfield. And I think James White

1297
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:11,360
Speaker 1: will be a surprise cut if not kept on to

1298
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:14,080
Speaker 1: just to sort of teach those guys the real ropes

1299
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 1: of how to come out of the backfield. What do

1300
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:18,479
Speaker 1: you guys think? I don't know if they cut James White,

1301
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 1: James James White might just decide to, yeah, play. I

1302
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:24,960
Speaker 1: think why you bring him back, like like why I

1303
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:26,680
Speaker 1: caught him? Just put him on pup. Let him sit

1304
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 1: for six weeks, see what he's got out. You know,

1305
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:30,480
Speaker 1: if they felt like he could physically play, I think

1306
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:33,600
Speaker 1: he'd be back. But yeah, I don't. I don't think

1307
01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:35,200
Speaker 1: that he's going to be a part of what they

1308
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 1: do this year. I don't. I just feel like, right,

1309
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 1: so you have this guy on certainly no surprise. We

1310
01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:42,400
Speaker 1: gotta we got a ball loose over there and in

1311
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:45,160
Speaker 1: the ball security drill J J. Taylor, he's gonna he's

1312
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:49,600
Speaker 1: gonna hit the bricks. Not good. Yep, So we have

1313
01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:51,080
Speaker 1: him one do you guys just have him on this

1314
01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:53,800
Speaker 1: on the rosters taking up the spot even if the

1315
01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 1: pup for the rest of that, well that doesn't take

1316
01:03:56,880 --> 01:04:00,280
Speaker 1: that doesn't take up a spot. Okay. You know if

1317
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 1: people all Belichick going like okay, you know, get rid

1318
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:04,720
Speaker 1: of him one year or too soon before one year

1319
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:07,320
Speaker 1: too late, that's sort of thing. And then lastly, for

1320
01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:10,800
Speaker 1: you guys, have you guys seen anything from hikon Thornton?

1321
01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:13,840
Speaker 1: Have you seen him run route, Like, why are they

1322
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:16,400
Speaker 1: hiding him with something? No, No, he's been out here,

1323
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:18,040
Speaker 1: He's been out here. He looks fast. I mean you

1324
01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:19,880
Speaker 1: can see it. I mean, Chris, you know he hasn't

1325
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:22,920
Speaker 1: made He had a couple of catches yesterday. Um, but

1326
01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:25,880
Speaker 1: I do think his speed is I thought Bill arn

1327
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 1: and I thought Bill spent a lot of time with

1328
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:29,720
Speaker 1: him yesterday sort of going over some of that. That

1329
01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 1: was that's a that's a great thing to point out.

1330
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:33,440
Speaker 1: And I watched the video of it. Um, I think

1331
01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:36,680
Speaker 1: the camera guys Moose Moose and Glen posted that and

1332
01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:39,520
Speaker 1: and it was pretty apparent, like you watch their video

1333
01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:42,280
Speaker 1: and you see what Thornton kind of does and it's

1334
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:45,840
Speaker 1: kind of, uh, too many stutter steps before you know,

1335
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:48,439
Speaker 1: breaking to the right side. And Bill kind of walked

1336
01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:50,640
Speaker 1: him through it and showed, you know, it's playting your

1337
01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:52,640
Speaker 1: left foot, throwing a quick little head fake and then

1338
01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:55,480
Speaker 1: going to the right just less steps, more efficient h

1339
01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:58,720
Speaker 1: with his movement. So that that's the stuff he's got

1340
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:02,280
Speaker 1: to learn, you know, the nuance to route running. And

1341
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:04,280
Speaker 1: it's a big part of what they do here, what

1342
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:06,040
Speaker 1: they do in the NFL, and one of the hardest

1343
01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:08,760
Speaker 1: things for for college receivers making the jump to his

1344
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:12,560
Speaker 1: defense too. Um, he did. He was in position when

1345
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:15,000
Speaker 1: they were running those routes in the red zone yesterday

1346
01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:17,760
Speaker 1: where Bailey's abbey just kind of really overthrew him and

1347
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:20,439
Speaker 1: didn't really get a chance to show anything off. Yeah,

1348
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:22,600
Speaker 1: he had one nice catch. I think it was from

1349
01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:26,440
Speaker 1: from Mack. But you know, I mean, look again, I've

1350
01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:27,840
Speaker 1: said a couple of times like I just I think

1351
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:30,240
Speaker 1: for him, just just keep coming out here every day.

1352
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:31,480
Speaker 1: Like we come out here and he's not here in

1353
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:33,760
Speaker 1: one day, that's that's the worst thing that can happen.

1354
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:35,800
Speaker 1: But as long as he's out here, he definitely seems

1355
01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:40,000
Speaker 1: in the mix. With the veteran group above him. It

1356
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:41,840
Speaker 1: seems like they're trying to get him involved with that.

1357
01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:44,240
Speaker 1: He's not kind of an afterthought on, you know, one

1358
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:46,360
Speaker 1: of the side fields. So he's going to be involved.

1359
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:49,080
Speaker 1: I just keep your eyes out for maybe a splash

1360
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:50,680
Speaker 1: player too. But you can see that, you can see

1361
01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:53,640
Speaker 1: the speed. You can just kind of see how those

1362
01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:55,520
Speaker 1: guys run. I was never one of those guys. Were

1363
01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:57,080
Speaker 1: you a fast soccer player out? So? Did you have

1364
01:05:57,200 --> 01:06:01,640
Speaker 1: speed when you played soccer? Um? I did, but I

1365
01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:04,360
Speaker 1: ended up playing center back, so I didn't really need

1366
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:06,440
Speaker 1: to utilize it once. You gotta be tough, though, you

1367
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:10,560
Speaker 1: gotta cut the ball off, you gotta, you gotta aidating. Yeah,

1368
01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:13,000
Speaker 1: so they just finished up some one on one um

1369
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:16,800
Speaker 1: ball control and then they were doing some you know angles,

1370
01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:19,960
Speaker 1: you know, getting ready to make a good tackle or

1371
01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:24,560
Speaker 1: avoid the tackle. Now they're back into special teams and kickoff. Yeah,

1372
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:31,760
Speaker 1: and to the first kickoff. Took the first kickoff. But

1373
01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:33,600
Speaker 1: I'm also making note of some of the guys on

1374
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:37,120
Speaker 1: the kickoff team. And you have guys like Time Montgomery,

1375
01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:41,120
Speaker 1: you know, and yesterday they had him out there catching them.

1376
01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:45,080
Speaker 1: So if you have, you know, a guy who's maybe

1377
01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:49,640
Speaker 1: a secondary piece on offense, you gotta fill some roles

1378
01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:53,080
Speaker 1: on special teams. So Time Montgomery is certainly covering kickoffs

1379
01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:55,800
Speaker 1: and something to keep an eye on. Romandre throwing some

1380
01:06:55,840 --> 01:07:00,680
Speaker 1: grass in the air. Looks like me. That's why they

1381
01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:02,200
Speaker 1: got the flags up top. It looks like me on

1382
01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:04,720
Speaker 1: the third hole. You're all fine, I might I m

1383
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:08,320
Speaker 1: at the club up here, Stevenson deep here for this kickoff.

1384
01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:15,760
Speaker 1: It's funny. It just seems like kickoff or turners such

1385
01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:19,280
Speaker 1: an afterthought now and it's finding that guy like you

1386
01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:21,320
Speaker 1: kind of said, Paul, like the guy who maybe doesn't

1387
01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:22,920
Speaker 1: quite have a special team's role that can just go

1388
01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:25,440
Speaker 1: back there and watch the ball sail over his head.

1389
01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:32,320
Speaker 1: Tristan Vecano is that his name? Yeah? I think? Yeah, yeah,

1390
01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:35,040
Speaker 1: tough with the Chargers last year, missed a bunch of

1391
01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:38,280
Speaker 1: extra points, got got a sent up packing from there.

1392
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:42,240
Speaker 1: So they pretty much always have two kickers in camp, right,

1393
01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:43,920
Speaker 1: I mean, do you guys ever remember them having a

1394
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:47,480
Speaker 1: time where it was just just Goskowski or Vinitari. Yeah,

1395
01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:49,320
Speaker 1: I think there were times where they were alone. But

1396
01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:52,160
Speaker 1: I think since Nick Folk has been around, I think

1397
01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:55,680
Speaker 1: a young leg the last. Yeah, probably a light lighten

1398
01:07:55,720 --> 01:08:00,280
Speaker 1: the load a little bit. J J. Taylor, Deeppe, somebody

1399
01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:02,160
Speaker 1: who win of its jersey might might be time to

1400
01:08:03,080 --> 01:08:07,640
Speaker 1: swap that one out. Do they have a jersey swap program?

1401
01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:09,920
Speaker 1: They should have a thing where you could just take

1402
01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:12,120
Speaker 1: your shirt in and'll swap the nameplate for you, you know,

1403
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:18,800
Speaker 1: for like five bucks. Yea. Again, there's no hitting in

1404
01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:22,720
Speaker 1: this practice, so you're not seeing anyone to the ground now,

1405
01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:26,320
Speaker 1: came accord, very very full of energy. Is anyone on

1406
01:08:26,360 --> 01:08:28,960
Speaker 1: the ground. It's a mistake. Yeah, he's given, he was given.

1407
01:08:30,160 --> 01:08:32,080
Speaker 1: I guess that is not Marcus Jones. That's probably Harvey

1408
01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:37,080
Speaker 1: Loggy since he's got the soft Q tip on Troy

1409
01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:42,240
Speaker 1: Brown deep with the returners. Kind of coaching, that facet

1410
01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:44,840
Speaker 1: of this that is part of his job description. Yeah,

1411
01:08:45,360 --> 01:08:48,960
Speaker 1: along with flag football coach. Took me down this year.

1412
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:54,560
Speaker 1: But that's all right. Dominant over Stevenson back at the

1413
01:08:54,640 --> 01:08:59,640
Speaker 1: deep role. That seems like the sun's peeking out a

1414
01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:04,920
Speaker 1: little bit out too. Yea, So we've had what Stevenson, Taylor,

1415
01:09:07,439 --> 01:09:13,200
Speaker 1: anyone else hand these? Yeah? Thank you. Did you see

1416
01:09:13,400 --> 01:09:16,120
Speaker 1: Montgomery take one yet today? Paul, No, Montgomery's on the

1417
01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:22,720
Speaker 1: kickoff team. He's covering the coverings. Now they get the

1418
01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:26,840
Speaker 1: jugs Machine doing the kicking. It throws a nice ball

1419
01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:29,519
Speaker 1: that that Jugs Machine does it. Yeah, it's the perfect

1420
01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:34,160
Speaker 1: spiral up into the sky. Consistent, consistent, that's what it's

1421
01:09:34,160 --> 01:09:39,519
Speaker 1: all about. Jugs Machine doesn't take a day off ever. Wow,

1422
01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:43,400
Speaker 1: we've hit the jugs Machine portion of training camp midway

1423
01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:45,960
Speaker 1: through day two. You do special teams in your own time,

1424
01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:49,639
Speaker 1: you know what. I totally concur especially after Bill told

1425
01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:52,519
Speaker 1: me that it's useless. You know what, I noticed, and

1426
01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:55,519
Speaker 1: maybe they just don't have them out here anymore. Remember

1427
01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:59,640
Speaker 1: they had the plastic wolves or kyote. Yeah yeah, to

1428
01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:02,400
Speaker 1: keep the birds away. They got those at the lake

1429
01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:04,320
Speaker 1: near our house now, and I swear to God, every

1430
01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:05,840
Speaker 1: time we go to the lake, it gets me for

1431
01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:07,680
Speaker 1: a second time. Somebody's got their dog on the way.

1432
01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:09,519
Speaker 1: Every single time. I think it's a real dog for

1433
01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:11,680
Speaker 1: a split second. I don't know how much good they do.

1434
01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:13,920
Speaker 1: Is it scared? What scared birds away? Yeah? Well we

1435
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:18,240
Speaker 1: have a real dog boys out there, yeah, Boyd's Eye

1436
01:10:18,280 --> 01:10:22,200
Speaker 1: and those fake dogs like hell, let's get to some

1437
01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:26,639
Speaker 1: of the emails now that you know during special teams.

1438
01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:31,400
Speaker 1: Um Tim writes in from South Carolina. Have a scenario.

1439
01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:33,760
Speaker 1: I wanted you guys to see what you think. I

1440
01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:37,240
Speaker 1: think it's quite unlikely, but still possible. Let's say Mac

1441
01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:40,120
Speaker 1: in the offense struggle big times this season, Mac takes

1442
01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:42,720
Speaker 1: a big sophomore slump and the team ends up with

1443
01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:45,280
Speaker 1: a top ten draft pick. Would Bill be taking a

1444
01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:48,519
Speaker 1: look at guys like Bryce Young, Stroud, Rattler, et cetera.

1445
01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:51,360
Speaker 1: Or do you think he keeps rolling with Mac hoping

1446
01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:55,599
Speaker 1: he turns it around hopefully in year three? I think

1447
01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:57,600
Speaker 1: you'd have to take a look if he if he

1448
01:10:57,840 --> 01:11:01,040
Speaker 1: was terrible in year two and you have the quarterback

1449
01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:03,920
Speaker 1: class that it's rumored to be. I mean that according

1450
01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:06,240
Speaker 1: to the experts it's supposed to be a really strong quarterback.

1451
01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:08,400
Speaker 1: You have to look at that if you're in position

1452
01:11:08,439 --> 01:11:10,439
Speaker 1: to take one. Now, you don't jam it in at

1453
01:11:10,479 --> 01:11:12,719
Speaker 1: like twenty eight and just so I need a quarterback,

1454
01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:14,240
Speaker 1: I'm not sold on, but if you could get But

1455
01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:15,960
Speaker 1: if I'm in the top ten and my guy he's

1456
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:18,640
Speaker 1: coming off a terrible year or two, yeah, I got

1457
01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:21,560
Speaker 1: to think about it at least I definitely think about it.

1458
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:23,800
Speaker 1: But I also think that at this point, with how

1459
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:25,840
Speaker 1: many years Bill may or may not have left, it

1460
01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:28,880
Speaker 1: might be. And what I think Mac is, which is

1461
01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:30,439
Speaker 1: a good fit for what they do. I think he

1462
01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:33,800
Speaker 1: does what they ask I would not saying what I

1463
01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:35,360
Speaker 1: would do, but I think what they would do is

1464
01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:38,280
Speaker 1: I think they probably stick with Mac unless it was dreadful.

1465
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:39,960
Speaker 1: I mean, if it was dreadful, That's what I'm saying.

1466
01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:43,000
Speaker 1: Like that, and that's that's the scenari Now, all logic

1467
01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:44,679
Speaker 1: would tell you there's there's no way they're not gonna

1468
01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:47,759
Speaker 1: be looking at that. This is. You know, Bill's committed,

1469
01:11:48,120 --> 01:11:50,240
Speaker 1: this is, this is. But if it's like Patrick Mahomes.

1470
01:11:50,280 --> 01:11:52,120
Speaker 1: But if you're sitting like at eight nine ten in

1471
01:11:52,200 --> 01:11:53,920
Speaker 1: that area, you know, but if but if you have

1472
01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:57,000
Speaker 1: the guy, then you say, wow, that guy's really good.

1473
01:11:57,040 --> 01:11:58,840
Speaker 1: But I have my guy, yeah, and I'm gonna go on.

1474
01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:02,920
Speaker 1: He'd have to really fall off a cliff. Yeah, you know,

1475
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:05,240
Speaker 1: you'd have to see the last five games for seventeen

1476
01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:07,200
Speaker 1: games right, and then and then you're like, this guy

1477
01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:10,040
Speaker 1: can't do it right, and it's like maybe then you're

1478
01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:12,320
Speaker 1: looking at a Jamar Chase type situation where hey, we

1479
01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:14,600
Speaker 1: got the quarterback last year, let's get them one of

1480
01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:17,800
Speaker 1: these top ten wide receiver types that'll help. Maybe that'll

1481
01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:21,759
Speaker 1: help them bounce back, or you know, Jake and Ben diggo.

1482
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:25,519
Speaker 1: It was Australia Rights in Happy Day two. Been listening

1483
01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:27,880
Speaker 1: all off season, but as soon as everyone said Happy

1484
01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:31,360
Speaker 1: New Year, it made the old arm hairs stand up.

1485
01:12:31,760 --> 01:12:34,799
Speaker 1: Can't say the soap had the same effect all off season.

1486
01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:38,400
Speaker 1: Two things for you all. One camp day snacks. What's

1487
01:12:38,439 --> 01:12:43,920
Speaker 1: everyone snacking on right now? Nothing? Beauty? Now the beauty?

1488
01:12:45,120 --> 01:12:47,080
Speaker 1: All right? So I'm gonna play Devil's I thought that

1489
01:12:47,479 --> 01:12:51,679
Speaker 1: Parker terrific catch on the sideline, different spun, spun his body,

1490
01:12:52,240 --> 01:12:55,040
Speaker 1: different Parker difference maker. I said, Oh, I'm gonna I'm

1491
01:12:55,120 --> 01:12:57,920
Speaker 1: just gonna be fair because I feel like the whole

1492
01:12:58,240 --> 01:13:02,400
Speaker 1: number one thing that's nikkil Harry. I haven't seen him

1493
01:13:02,439 --> 01:13:05,960
Speaker 1: open yet and that concerns me. Without pads, if you're

1494
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:09,440
Speaker 1: not getting open, I'm concerned. But that was an unbelievable

1495
01:13:09,479 --> 01:13:11,800
Speaker 1: catch he just made, spinning his body, toe tapping on

1496
01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:15,120
Speaker 1: the sideline with with Jalen Mills in his back pocket.

1497
01:13:15,200 --> 01:13:17,280
Speaker 1: But that was a really, really tough catch, and he

1498
01:13:17,320 --> 01:13:19,400
Speaker 1: made it look easy. I think Mac put it to

1499
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:23,880
Speaker 1: her kind of only he could get drafts. Snap. That's

1500
01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:27,800
Speaker 1: not what we're looking for. Uh. The second question from

1501
01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:30,240
Speaker 1: Jake is I know it's only two hurt his hand?

1502
01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:33,200
Speaker 1: What's that Mac? Look back? He was shaking. Yeah, he

1503
01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:34,840
Speaker 1: looks like he's shaking his hand a little bit. Yeah,

1504
01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:36,479
Speaker 1: that that snap, I think he probably had his hands.

1505
01:13:36,840 --> 01:13:39,679
Speaker 1: Are you sure it's no, it's not like I was watching,

1506
01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:41,160
Speaker 1: and you know Bill's talking to him now, but he's

1507
01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:43,160
Speaker 1: still shaking out that that left hand. I think that

1508
01:13:43,439 --> 01:13:47,280
Speaker 1: caught him as someone who's done that before. It hurts.

1509
01:13:47,320 --> 01:13:49,080
Speaker 1: I hurt my hand when you don't have your hands

1510
01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:52,040
Speaker 1: on what the like? Maybe he had it like this

1511
01:13:52,120 --> 01:13:55,160
Speaker 1: and the ball came up Worth pointing out too, the

1512
01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:59,120
Speaker 1: guy snappings Will Sherman, who he's been the two center

1513
01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:02,080
Speaker 1: by the way, which I made a note of earlier today.

1514
01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:07,320
Speaker 1: Um and my my little notes. Um. The second question

1515
01:14:07,400 --> 01:14:09,680
Speaker 1: from Jake is he knows it's day two, but who

1516
01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:15,800
Speaker 1: early prediction on make making the Pro Bowl? I mean

1517
01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:20,360
Speaker 1: the way he's going right out DeVante already, so it

1518
01:14:20,520 --> 01:14:22,600
Speaker 1: might be him. He's really like bringing the energy to

1519
01:14:22,720 --> 01:14:25,519
Speaker 1: everyone here in the stands too yesterday. Oh it's fun.

1520
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:28,640
Speaker 1: I love that stuff. Just perk him right up. So

1521
01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:32,400
Speaker 1: just watching Mac, it was his left hand that he

1522
01:14:32,920 --> 01:14:35,360
Speaker 1: you know, so he looks fine. Yeah yeah, yeah, he

1523
01:14:35,479 --> 01:14:36,960
Speaker 1: was just shaking it out. I'm not nothing to be

1524
01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:40,320
Speaker 1: concerned about. But that's probabumbled that snap. You tell me

1525
01:14:40,439 --> 01:14:42,920
Speaker 1: he's got a hangnail, and I'm getting concerned. I mean

1526
01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:45,439
Speaker 1: we got to keep him up. Yeah, so this is uh,

1527
01:14:45,479 --> 01:14:46,960
Speaker 1: you know, just if everybody this is from the five

1528
01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:54,120
Speaker 1: yard line. Bailey's Appy's now in it at quarterback. Oh

1529
01:14:54,439 --> 01:14:57,800
Speaker 1: another is your boy Trey Nixon? Yeah, Zappy with a

1530
01:14:57,920 --> 01:15:00,040
Speaker 1: nice pass. Yeah, a little late in the down. I

1531
01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:01,880
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know how quick he got through everything.

1532
01:15:01,960 --> 01:15:04,720
Speaker 1: And I wonder if he missed Thornton, who I thought

1533
01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:07,160
Speaker 1: was wide open sort of under the goal post, coming

1534
01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:10,840
Speaker 1: across the back line. Yeah. So in this portion of

1535
01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:14,960
Speaker 1: the practice, it looks like it might be Joe Judge

1536
01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:19,160
Speaker 1: in the huddle, maybe calling plays, although right now he's

1537
01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:22,080
Speaker 1: conferring with Matt Patricia. Neither one of them's gonna say.

1538
01:15:22,120 --> 01:15:25,240
Speaker 1: Bill's clearly calling whatever they're doing. Right Yeah, Zappy was

1539
01:15:25,280 --> 01:15:26,920
Speaker 1: just with Bill. That's just gonna say. Neither one of

1540
01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:31,439
Speaker 1: them have mics right now or Wwaukee talkies. The entry

1541
01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:39,639
Speaker 1: continues the Waukee twalkie. So Zappy's still in there. Yeah,

1542
01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:42,160
Speaker 1: ZAPPI with more reps today than he got yesterday. I

1543
01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:46,519
Speaker 1: would say. Yeah. Also to the outside, the cornerbacks are

1544
01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:48,880
Speaker 1: all wearing those those gloves too, to prevent them from

1545
01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:51,680
Speaker 1: from grabbing as well. At what point do we make

1546
01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:55,840
Speaker 1: the proclamation that Zappy has leap frogged over hoy or

1547
01:15:55,880 --> 01:15:59,880
Speaker 1: as the the backup? You won't now, I like, okay,

1548
01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:01,640
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just feel like lawyers that like,

1549
01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:04,040
Speaker 1: we know he's got it. We'll give him some reps

1550
01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:05,800
Speaker 1: here and there, but try to like give you know,

1551
01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:08,120
Speaker 1: we gotta give the kid, get the kid ready to play.

1552
01:16:08,200 --> 01:16:10,880
Speaker 1: And I think Plawyer's probably understanding of that that he's

1553
01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:17,360
Speaker 1: not going to get guaranteed. All the two reps zappy again,

1554
01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:22,120
Speaker 1: surveying into traffic and incomplete. That one got tipped up

1555
01:16:22,120 --> 01:16:26,360
Speaker 1: the line by the wrecket. They're holding those paddles up.

1556
01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:34,040
Speaker 1: I think they're Prince rackets. Prince still around, old Prince

1557
01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:37,880
Speaker 1: rackets with the big heads one ten right, that's the

1558
01:16:38,280 --> 01:16:42,439
Speaker 1: big boy. Yeah. A little quick tempo here for Mac, Oh,

1559
01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:46,160
Speaker 1: Malcolm Butler, a little bit, uh, a little extra little

1560
01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:50,400
Speaker 1: contact back to Stevenson out of the backfield. Oh Mac,

1561
01:16:50,439 --> 01:16:52,120
Speaker 1: with a high five to Bill. Bill didn't really seem

1562
01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:55,000
Speaker 1: too enthused about that necessarily high five, but I think

1563
01:16:55,080 --> 01:16:56,680
Speaker 1: Mac went back over said, no, I'm trying to give

1564
01:16:56,680 --> 01:17:00,599
Speaker 1: your high five. That's probably the guy that can fool

1565
01:17:00,680 --> 01:17:03,680
Speaker 1: around with Bill. And even though Bill doesn't like it,

1566
01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:07,200
Speaker 1: isn't know what to do because Max's a likable Well

1567
01:17:07,400 --> 01:17:08,880
Speaker 1: am I gonna do? I wonder that too, though. Do

1568
01:17:08,920 --> 01:17:11,040
Speaker 1: you think that Mac is still terrified at Belichick? I probably,

1569
01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:14,320
Speaker 1: I think he probably is oh yeah, but like sometimes

1570
01:17:14,360 --> 01:17:16,200
Speaker 1: he just can't help it, you know, he just has

1571
01:17:16,240 --> 01:17:20,679
Speaker 1: that golden yeah right right right, what are you gonna do? Yeah,

1572
01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:26,760
Speaker 1: Mac back to pass? Oh yeah, not good, not good.

1573
01:17:27,560 --> 01:17:29,479
Speaker 1: I mean he completed it in the end zone, but

1574
01:17:29,640 --> 01:17:31,639
Speaker 1: that would have been a broken play. Yeah, no credit

1575
01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:33,920
Speaker 1: for that one Aggalore over the sliding but again Mac

1576
01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:36,559
Speaker 1: one for one touchdown to Aggalore and the status right.

1577
01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:39,439
Speaker 1: I actually I actually read something and I don't remember

1578
01:17:39,479 --> 01:17:41,200
Speaker 1: where or otherwise I would call him out for it,

1579
01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:44,720
Speaker 1: you know, you know, I would saying how effective he was.

1580
01:17:45,560 --> 01:17:49,240
Speaker 1: You know, um, I forget the term. He meant off platform,

1581
01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:54,160
Speaker 1: but but uh, but he meant you know, sort of

1582
01:17:54,240 --> 01:17:56,560
Speaker 1: like he think he used to term off script. And

1583
01:17:56,600 --> 01:17:58,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, does that mean like he audible that the

1584
01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:00,880
Speaker 1: line like or is it just like the ball didn't

1585
01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:03,000
Speaker 1: come you know when the play broke down in seven

1586
01:18:03,080 --> 01:18:05,080
Speaker 1: on seven he was able to scramble away from the

1587
01:18:05,200 --> 01:18:08,840
Speaker 1: non offensive don't know, defensive And by the way, like

1588
01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:12,120
Speaker 1: just having completed a seven on seven tournament at the

1589
01:18:12,160 --> 01:18:14,720
Speaker 1: high school level over the last weekend, do you know

1590
01:18:14,800 --> 01:18:18,000
Speaker 1: what they do with like they have referees and stuff,

1591
01:18:18,360 --> 01:18:20,519
Speaker 1: they have four seconds. That's a hard hit. They have

1592
01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:23,519
Speaker 1: four seconds to throw the ball. Mac Wilson laying a

1593
01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:26,080
Speaker 1: little lick on Yeah, Jacobe there. I mean, you know,

1594
01:18:26,360 --> 01:18:28,679
Speaker 1: he didn't lay his shoulder, but he kind of rolled

1595
01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:31,240
Speaker 1: over him and both both players went to the ground.

1596
01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:34,599
Speaker 1: I'm sure that's not what we're looking for here. Yeah.

1597
01:18:34,640 --> 01:18:37,920
Speaker 1: I think Myers kind of stopped abruptly. Yeah, kind of

1598
01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:41,760
Speaker 1: table times. Wilson was coming. I've never heard that before.

1599
01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:44,400
Speaker 1: Oh you never did that to your friends. You like,

1600
01:18:44,520 --> 01:18:47,080
Speaker 1: go up behind one of your friends. That's unsuspectful. Oh

1601
01:18:47,160 --> 01:18:49,600
Speaker 1: you push him? Oh well I have done that. I

1602
01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:51,720
Speaker 1: just never knew it was called tabletop. Tabletop was our

1603
01:18:51,720 --> 01:18:53,920
Speaker 1: pizza place at night. I was I was very respectful

1604
01:18:53,960 --> 01:18:56,640
Speaker 1: of my friends. I didn't need any your teammates like

1605
01:18:56,760 --> 01:19:00,800
Speaker 1: we did. You never got pantsed. Mac took that one

1606
01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:07,519
Speaker 1: under center and that was incomplete. That was well covered.

1607
01:19:08,120 --> 01:19:12,680
Speaker 1: My bled so right with him a position too. That

1608
01:19:12,840 --> 01:19:15,800
Speaker 1: was similar to the throw on the opposite side that

1609
01:19:16,160 --> 01:19:18,200
Speaker 1: Smith was able to make the catch over Bled, So

1610
01:19:18,280 --> 01:19:21,040
Speaker 1: it was similar kind of coverage. That was a good throw,

1611
01:19:21,160 --> 01:19:23,720
Speaker 1: was sure, and that was the difference. Mack didn't give

1612
01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:26,120
Speaker 1: him any chance there. The throw was down low. Okay,

1613
01:19:26,160 --> 01:19:28,479
Speaker 1: I'm sure it went down as a completion in the stats.

1614
01:19:30,760 --> 01:19:33,360
Speaker 1: We'll give him that one. Zappy's back back there now,

1615
01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:38,680
Speaker 1: Happy was Zappy Ted Johnson saying hello, Hey, Ted, But

1616
01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:40,479
Speaker 1: I'm like Zoe, he didn't have to disrupt the whole

1617
01:19:40,520 --> 01:19:46,720
Speaker 1: show to do it. Oh, just still my lifting anymore? Ted.

1618
01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:51,639
Speaker 1: He looks better now than when he played Guy's a machine.

1619
01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:54,000
Speaker 1: I mean I could still picture that guy coming out

1620
01:19:54,040 --> 01:19:56,439
Speaker 1: of college as the middle linebacker of like just the

1621
01:19:56,600 --> 01:19:59,400
Speaker 1: proto Like I was just like, oh, this is the

1622
01:19:59,479 --> 01:20:02,840
Speaker 1: perfect guy on some of the biggest impacts. I've seen

1623
01:20:03,400 --> 01:20:07,280
Speaker 1: him and Sam Gash in practice. That's probably the best

1624
01:20:07,360 --> 01:20:09,400
Speaker 1: illustration of how much it's changed since Fred and I

1625
01:20:09,560 --> 01:20:12,800
Speaker 1: started doing now. I mean they would lie I was practice, yeah,

1626
01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:14,920
Speaker 1: and Gash would come out of the backfield, and it

1627
01:20:15,040 --> 01:20:18,320
Speaker 1: was like those two mountain goats just, you know, rams,

1628
01:20:18,479 --> 01:20:22,040
Speaker 1: just banging each other. He was your boy Bledsoe showing

1629
01:20:22,160 --> 01:20:23,920
Speaker 1: up today. And by the way, I know he I like,

1630
01:20:24,479 --> 01:20:27,840
Speaker 1: he's making things interesting. He looks real comfortable out there.

1631
01:20:28,840 --> 01:20:30,439
Speaker 1: Well you wrote you wrote about him, Paul, right, you

1632
01:20:30,439 --> 01:20:33,080
Speaker 1: need people, he's earning, he's learning himself a paragraph. Oh

1633
01:20:33,320 --> 01:20:35,919
Speaker 1: all right, So that's uh that's it for this hip

1634
01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:39,840
Speaker 1: of practice. So now the team's just splitting up. Uh

1635
01:20:40,439 --> 01:20:43,320
Speaker 1: let's see. Looks like, uh, yeah, we're going on here.

1636
01:20:43,439 --> 01:20:46,040
Speaker 1: Defense is going over to the field closest to us,

1637
01:20:46,840 --> 01:20:49,799
Speaker 1: offense is staying on the far field. The lineman offensive

1638
01:20:49,840 --> 01:20:52,160
Speaker 1: linemen are now coming from what we used to call

1639
01:20:52,280 --> 01:20:54,600
Speaker 1: Dante's inferno. Yeah, you're gonna get ready to do some

1640
01:20:54,720 --> 01:20:57,160
Speaker 1: full team work. Yeah, shortly after all that seven on

1641
01:20:57,240 --> 01:20:59,880
Speaker 1: seven stuff. You know, it's fun like when Teddy came over.

1642
01:21:00,160 --> 01:21:01,479
Speaker 1: You know, I got a chance to do a couple

1643
01:21:01,479 --> 01:21:04,040
Speaker 1: of shows with him during the offseason, and you can

1644
01:21:04,120 --> 01:21:06,720
Speaker 1: just tell how much he sort of misses that, like

1645
01:21:06,880 --> 01:21:09,640
Speaker 1: his role is kind of going by the wayside. You know,

1646
01:21:09,760 --> 01:21:13,880
Speaker 1: that traditional inside off the ball linebacker who's taken on

1647
01:21:14,040 --> 01:21:17,280
Speaker 1: guards and plugging gaps and and stopping the run. And

1648
01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:19,760
Speaker 1: there's not as much of those two hundred and fifty

1649
01:21:19,760 --> 01:21:22,880
Speaker 1: plus pound linebackers anymore. And you could tell it's sort

1650
01:21:22,920 --> 01:21:25,000
Speaker 1: of not not like not that he's like a cranky

1651
01:21:25,160 --> 01:21:26,880
Speaker 1: X player, right, but you can tell that that that

1652
01:21:27,040 --> 01:21:29,960
Speaker 1: that misses that that physicality, He misses that element. It's

1653
01:21:29,960 --> 01:21:31,599
Speaker 1: like you and me taking Paul, I'm back in our

1654
01:21:31,680 --> 01:21:33,400
Speaker 1: day you know, we used to play pickle and in

1655
01:21:33,439 --> 01:21:37,040
Speaker 1: the backyard every day one could the ball off on

1656
01:21:37,120 --> 01:21:39,720
Speaker 1: consecutive places like I could. I mean that The joke

1657
01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:41,800
Speaker 1: I make with with Paul is like, you know, watching

1658
01:21:41,920 --> 01:21:43,640
Speaker 1: some of the kids in my town play baseball, and

1659
01:21:43,800 --> 01:21:45,400
Speaker 1: you know, we just played so much in the neighborhood

1660
01:21:45,400 --> 01:21:47,200
Speaker 1: growing up that you knew like what a pop fly

1661
01:21:47,479 --> 01:21:49,439
Speaker 1: like to catch it? Like you know, kids like still

1662
01:21:49,760 --> 01:21:52,360
Speaker 1: pop fly and they all like, oh, it's happenings happen.

1663
01:21:52,400 --> 01:21:55,320
Speaker 1: Everyone just kind of stands there and stairs. But now different,

1664
01:21:55,479 --> 01:21:57,799
Speaker 1: different these days. Let's go to some of the phone calls.

1665
01:21:58,400 --> 01:22:04,720
Speaker 1: Jeff is a scranted Hey Jeff, Hey, guys, are you good? Hey?

1666
01:22:05,160 --> 01:22:09,639
Speaker 1: I got a two part question here is what side

1667
01:22:09,680 --> 01:22:11,479
Speaker 1: of the ball do you think is most improved this

1668
01:22:11,640 --> 01:22:15,000
Speaker 1: year compared to last year? And what's more likely having

1669
01:22:15,040 --> 01:22:17,320
Speaker 1: a top ten offense or a top ten defense by

1670
01:22:17,360 --> 01:22:20,760
Speaker 1: the end of the year. Both answers offense, Yeah, I don't.

1671
01:22:20,760 --> 01:22:23,559
Speaker 1: I mean, it's hard to tell right now the practice

1672
01:22:23,600 --> 01:22:25,519
Speaker 1: and everything, but the offenses has looked pretty good. I

1673
01:22:25,720 --> 01:22:28,200
Speaker 1: haven't really been wowed by anything the defense has done,

1674
01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:30,200
Speaker 1: but it's hard for them to wow right now unless

1675
01:22:30,479 --> 01:22:32,559
Speaker 1: every ball is incomplete. The offense. The only thing they

1676
01:22:32,640 --> 01:22:35,599
Speaker 1: lost on offense was offensive lineman. So the offense will

1677
01:22:35,840 --> 01:22:38,200
Speaker 1: you know, will be at worst the same defense. They

1678
01:22:38,280 --> 01:22:42,639
Speaker 1: lost significant pieces right now. If there's you know, if

1679
01:22:42,760 --> 01:22:45,760
Speaker 1: guys we don't know about are better than we know,

1680
01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:49,120
Speaker 1: then that could change. But right now, on paper, the

1681
01:22:49,240 --> 01:22:54,160
Speaker 1: offense is better, Thanks Jeff. I just mean from last year.

1682
01:22:54,240 --> 01:22:55,840
Speaker 1: I don't know which which union is going to be

1683
01:22:55,880 --> 01:22:59,200
Speaker 1: better this year, but like from last year, the offense

1684
01:22:59,240 --> 01:23:01,320
Speaker 1: should be better because they hadn't really they mean, they

1685
01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:04,200
Speaker 1: lost Jack Mason and Ted Harris right on the offensive line.

1686
01:23:04,680 --> 01:23:06,960
Speaker 1: I think that all the skill guys, the quarterbacks of

1687
01:23:06,960 --> 01:23:08,760
Speaker 1: a year, I mean they should they should be better

1688
01:23:08,840 --> 01:23:11,439
Speaker 1: than they were a last year on offense. Let's go

1689
01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:15,479
Speaker 1: to Steve in New York. What's up, Steve? Ah? Yes,

1690
01:23:15,640 --> 01:23:20,679
Speaker 1: how's everyone doing this morning? Good? I had just actually

1691
01:23:20,720 --> 01:23:24,160
Speaker 1: two questions. One is, and I hate rehashing this, but

1692
01:23:25,439 --> 01:23:29,479
Speaker 1: any reason to why Nick Kayley or try Brown weren't

1693
01:23:29,560 --> 01:23:32,200
Speaker 1: considered or you guys to hear anything as to for

1694
01:23:32,360 --> 01:23:36,000
Speaker 1: like oc position or Troy Brown, Well, Try Brown doesn't

1695
01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:41,760
Speaker 1: have the experience, you know, so you know, I don't know,

1696
01:23:42,320 --> 01:23:47,599
Speaker 1: like who was considered who wasn't um But you know, yeah,

1697
01:23:47,640 --> 01:23:50,720
Speaker 1: I don't have an answer for you. I think it's unconventional.

1698
01:23:50,840 --> 01:23:54,040
Speaker 1: I think it's it's odd, but I mean they decided

1699
01:23:54,080 --> 01:23:55,720
Speaker 1: to go with guys that they felt like had more

1700
01:23:55,800 --> 01:23:59,240
Speaker 1: experience as coaches as opposed to guys that with more

1701
01:23:59,280 --> 01:24:03,080
Speaker 1: experience on and again, I was vindicated when Matt Jones

1702
01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:07,200
Speaker 1: said yesterday, how you know he's impressed by having two

1703
01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:10,720
Speaker 1: guys who had seen it from a head coach perspective,

1704
01:24:10,840 --> 01:24:14,439
Speaker 1: and you know that like he really sees you know,

1705
01:24:14,439 --> 01:24:17,040
Speaker 1: I gave you the Gatscha thing, that one, that one

1706
01:24:17,080 --> 01:24:19,720
Speaker 1: I'm I'm i gotta I gotta cry. Follow on that,

1707
01:24:21,320 --> 01:24:24,479
Speaker 1: Max said, yeah, he said it not right right off

1708
01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:26,439
Speaker 1: the Q card. He read it exactly the way it

1709
01:24:26,520 --> 01:24:29,920
Speaker 1: was written. I think he I think he sees the

1710
01:24:30,120 --> 01:24:32,639
Speaker 1: value of having guys who have seen it from both sides.

1711
01:24:32,640 --> 01:24:34,800
Speaker 1: I think he's a panic sandwich, young in his career

1712
01:24:34,880 --> 01:24:38,280
Speaker 1: with no direction. Stop. That's all saying that, that's what

1713
01:24:38,400 --> 01:24:41,000
Speaker 1: I think is going to happen. No, I was listening

1714
01:24:41,080 --> 01:24:43,400
Speaker 1: to your show yesterday, Paul, or it might have been

1715
01:24:43,479 --> 01:24:46,000
Speaker 1: the day before, and you know, Tony's like it's a

1716
01:24:46,160 --> 01:24:48,800
Speaker 1: pig gaff in that room. How does he know that?

1717
01:24:49,479 --> 01:24:53,080
Speaker 1: How did it really? How does he know that? You know? Like,

1718
01:24:53,280 --> 01:24:55,360
Speaker 1: I think it's a little early to be to be

1719
01:24:55,479 --> 01:24:59,240
Speaker 1: saying that, to be jumping to that conclusion. I mean, really,

1720
01:24:59,320 --> 01:25:02,599
Speaker 1: it's just m fair. It's unfair. Williams and Phil. I'm

1721
01:25:02,640 --> 01:25:05,080
Speaker 1: gonna waste of time. They had winning six super Bowls

1722
01:25:05,160 --> 01:25:08,479
Speaker 1: with you know, a traditional call and throughout that you

1723
01:25:08,640 --> 01:25:12,559
Speaker 1: always said there's more than one way to do it. What. Yeah,

1724
01:25:12,640 --> 01:25:15,719
Speaker 1: You've always said that you could do I I always

1725
01:25:15,720 --> 01:25:17,439
Speaker 1: said you don't have to have an offensive coordinator in

1726
01:25:17,479 --> 01:25:22,959
Speaker 1: a play caller everything. I've never said that, William. What's up? William?

1727
01:25:24,600 --> 01:25:27,280
Speaker 1: Another person who you don't? I think you just don't

1728
01:25:27,280 --> 01:25:29,320
Speaker 1: know how to do it. No, he's I've got it done.

1729
01:25:29,320 --> 01:25:30,920
Speaker 1: I'm doing get Hardy in here to do it right.

1730
01:25:31,080 --> 01:25:34,280
Speaker 1: I'm doing it right. All right, William, you can call back.

1731
01:25:37,040 --> 01:25:40,519
Speaker 1: Let's get over to the emails because those are coming

1732
01:25:40,560 --> 01:25:46,160
Speaker 1: in fast and furiously. Let's see. Bill writes in from Vista, California.

1733
01:25:46,520 --> 01:25:49,439
Speaker 1: Are you guys planning on going to the regular season

1734
01:25:49,520 --> 01:25:52,200
Speaker 1: Vegas game? Is so? Any idea where to meet? The

1735
01:25:52,360 --> 01:25:54,760
Speaker 1: meet up will be being that it's Vegas, I feel

1736
01:25:54,800 --> 01:25:57,920
Speaker 1: like the options are endless. Freddy, You'll be there, right,

1737
01:25:58,040 --> 01:26:00,760
Speaker 1: I'll be there, and that everyone will be there. I'm

1738
01:26:00,760 --> 01:26:05,440
Speaker 1: sure sure Barrancon will have something cooked up for Vegas. Yeah,

1739
01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:07,479
Speaker 1: he's the best. That'll be a big one. You'll get

1740
01:26:07,479 --> 01:26:10,280
Speaker 1: it fired up. Yeah, you fired up. I mean, if

1741
01:26:10,280 --> 01:26:12,320
Speaker 1: you're if you're gonna plan a road trip this year,

1742
01:26:12,640 --> 01:26:15,280
Speaker 1: that's the place, right. I mean, I think it's good.

1743
01:26:15,360 --> 01:26:18,639
Speaker 1: You can maybe get in Friday, you get after a Friday, Saturday,

1744
01:26:18,680 --> 01:26:21,760
Speaker 1: maybe your shutter down literally Saturday afternoon, so you rest

1745
01:26:21,880 --> 01:26:23,479
Speaker 1: up and then you know, Sunday go catch the game.

1746
01:26:23,479 --> 01:26:25,640
Speaker 1: But I've never spent more than like two two and

1747
01:26:25,640 --> 01:26:28,400
Speaker 1: a half days in Vegas. It catches up with it,

1748
01:26:28,479 --> 01:26:32,200
Speaker 1: it does, it does. Yeah, you know two days. Oh

1749
01:26:33,320 --> 01:26:35,479
Speaker 1: this Kane, you're trying to take out some of our

1750
01:26:35,520 --> 01:26:40,439
Speaker 1: staff down there with his booming field goal kick. Let's see.

1751
01:26:41,040 --> 01:26:45,360
Speaker 1: Marcus writes in he's from Waco, Texas, and he's curious

1752
01:26:45,400 --> 01:26:47,760
Speaker 1: to see what you guys think of Taekwon Thornton. On

1753
01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:51,160
Speaker 1: first impression. I watched him play here at Baylor for

1754
01:26:51,360 --> 01:26:54,120
Speaker 1: multiple years. Very talented wide receiver. Any thoughts on how

1755
01:26:54,200 --> 01:26:58,240
Speaker 1: Belichick will use him? Speed just I mean hope uses speed.

1756
01:26:58,400 --> 01:27:00,559
Speaker 1: I mean you can see it. Love to see him

1757
01:27:00,560 --> 01:27:02,080
Speaker 1: get in the open and really kind of open it

1758
01:27:02,200 --> 01:27:04,479
Speaker 1: up to see it. But I'm just even doing the drills,

1759
01:27:04,520 --> 01:27:06,160
Speaker 1: he can tell he's got light feet and he moves,

1760
01:27:06,240 --> 01:27:09,360
Speaker 1: he moves well, but it's you know, he's in a

1761
01:27:09,400 --> 01:27:11,240
Speaker 1: stack position group. I think his reps are going to

1762
01:27:11,320 --> 01:27:13,680
Speaker 1: be come at, you know, a limited quantity, and he's

1763
01:27:13,680 --> 01:27:15,760
Speaker 1: he's got to make the most of them. And you know,

1764
01:27:15,840 --> 01:27:18,320
Speaker 1: like we saw Bill stepping Aside coaching him up yesterday,

1765
01:27:18,360 --> 01:27:20,120
Speaker 1: he's got to take all those lessons and apply them

1766
01:27:20,200 --> 01:27:22,519
Speaker 1: and you know, not make those mistakes over and over again.

1767
01:27:22,560 --> 01:27:24,560
Speaker 1: And if he can do that, then I mean I

1768
01:27:24,800 --> 01:27:26,639
Speaker 1: have a little bit more confidence just seeing how much

1769
01:27:26,680 --> 01:27:28,960
Speaker 1: in the mix he is um that you know that

1770
01:27:29,080 --> 01:27:31,280
Speaker 1: he might be part of the plan this year. Tim

1771
01:27:31,360 --> 01:27:35,000
Speaker 1: from Duncan reminds us or at least to the best

1772
01:27:35,040 --> 01:27:38,320
Speaker 1: of his recollection, He says, the last time I saw

1773
01:27:38,360 --> 01:27:41,519
Speaker 1: a real scrimmage at season ticket holder practice, Ted Johnson

1774
01:27:41,600 --> 01:27:43,519
Speaker 1: tours peck Muscle and was out for the year. And

1775
01:27:43,640 --> 01:27:45,640
Speaker 1: that wasn't a real scrimmage. Yeah, I would that was

1776
01:27:45,720 --> 01:27:48,760
Speaker 1: my first year. Even even that was was sort of

1777
01:27:48,800 --> 01:27:52,960
Speaker 1: half speed and no tackling. Yeah, but it was a

1778
01:27:53,120 --> 01:27:55,040
Speaker 1: It was a scrimmage set up, which is kind of

1779
01:27:55,080 --> 01:27:58,400
Speaker 1: what they do now, only they don't even have pads. Now,

1780
01:27:59,120 --> 01:28:01,720
Speaker 1: they may have had pad that day, Yeah, but I

1781
01:28:01,760 --> 01:28:07,880
Speaker 1: don't think they did any real hitting. A friend from Hollywood, California.

1782
01:28:08,360 --> 01:28:10,960
Speaker 1: Can the Patriots compete with such teams as the Rams

1783
01:28:11,040 --> 01:28:13,160
Speaker 1: when they are trying to save money by not giving

1784
01:28:13,200 --> 01:28:16,880
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator titles? J? C. Jackson and Shack Mason are

1785
01:28:16,960 --> 01:28:19,280
Speaker 1: ranked high in their position, but they are no longer

1786
01:28:19,360 --> 01:28:21,680
Speaker 1: on the roster since the Patriots deemed them to be

1787
01:28:21,800 --> 01:28:25,080
Speaker 1: too expensive. Do you foresee Robert Craft selling the team

1788
01:28:25,560 --> 01:28:28,360
Speaker 1: since he's not willing to give huge, guaranteed contracts to

1789
01:28:28,479 --> 01:28:32,439
Speaker 1: quality players. Boy, if no problem given guaranteed money to

1790
01:28:32,520 --> 01:28:36,320
Speaker 1: Devin got has a troll email. If I ever email,

1791
01:28:36,800 --> 01:28:39,240
Speaker 1: you shouldn't even bother playing the season, right, Let's just

1792
01:28:39,360 --> 01:28:43,519
Speaker 1: give it up? Yea. So now the teams are coming

1793
01:28:43,560 --> 01:28:47,240
Speaker 1: together on one field offense and defense, and we'd probably

1794
01:28:47,280 --> 01:28:50,080
Speaker 1: see a little eleven on eleven here, Paul. Yeah, they

1795
01:28:50,160 --> 01:28:51,840
Speaker 1: just set it up a little bit there with I

1796
01:28:51,920 --> 01:28:56,280
Speaker 1: think some walk through type plays and they had, you know,

1797
01:28:56,360 --> 01:28:59,439
Speaker 1: and to Mike's point about Tae Kwon Thornton. I do

1798
01:28:59,560 --> 01:29:04,080
Speaker 1: think it's worth mentioning that with Mac and the regulars

1799
01:29:04,280 --> 01:29:07,479
Speaker 1: on the right field, of the right side field, you know,

1800
01:29:07,680 --> 01:29:10,080
Speaker 1: from our vantage point, Tho Witton is with that group,

1801
01:29:10,320 --> 01:29:12,680
Speaker 1: you know, and you didn't get very many plays, but

1802
01:29:13,200 --> 01:29:19,360
Speaker 1: he's over here on this side while Parker Agalore, Born Myers,

1803
01:29:19,439 --> 01:29:21,320
Speaker 1: those guys were all running over here. And on the

1804
01:29:21,400 --> 01:29:24,719
Speaker 1: other side it's Trey Nixon with Bailey Zappy, Trey Nixon

1805
01:29:24,840 --> 01:29:28,200
Speaker 1: and Christian Wilkerson and those guys. So I do think

1806
01:29:28,240 --> 01:29:30,719
Speaker 1: that that. I mean, obviously though Witton is a locker,

1807
01:29:30,840 --> 01:29:34,240
Speaker 1: he's a stone called roster lock. You don't cut rookie

1808
01:29:34,320 --> 01:29:36,400
Speaker 1: second round picks. He's not going to go to the

1809
01:29:36,439 --> 01:29:39,599
Speaker 1: practice squad. He's not going to get cut. Now, how

1810
01:29:39,680 --> 01:29:41,759
Speaker 1: much of a role he ends up, you know, creating

1811
01:29:41,800 --> 01:29:44,280
Speaker 1: for himself, that remains to be seen. But you know,

1812
01:29:44,600 --> 01:29:46,880
Speaker 1: it is interesting to see him over here with the

1813
01:29:47,200 --> 01:29:51,080
Speaker 1: you know, the so called front starters on offense. So

1814
01:29:51,200 --> 01:29:52,720
Speaker 1: let's say we're going with some eleven on eleven here.

1815
01:29:52,760 --> 01:29:54,720
Speaker 1: Let's be kind of interesting. Let's say the Patriots kind

1816
01:29:54,760 --> 01:29:58,200
Speaker 1: of one of their base run defenses. So you know,

1817
01:29:58,280 --> 01:30:00,240
Speaker 1: if there's a lot of wide zone stuff right now,

1818
01:30:00,720 --> 01:30:02,760
Speaker 1: that this might be where it would pop up some

1819
01:30:02,800 --> 01:30:04,880
Speaker 1: of the running games again that you're looking for ninety four.

1820
01:30:04,920 --> 01:30:07,280
Speaker 1: Henry Anderson is out here right, you know, it's one

1821
01:30:07,280 --> 01:30:11,320
Speaker 1: of those guys on the end now, not necessarily opposite

1822
01:30:11,600 --> 01:30:14,200
Speaker 1: Jude On. I think on that play he'd lined up

1823
01:30:14,200 --> 01:30:15,800
Speaker 1: on the same side in front of him, if I'm

1824
01:30:15,800 --> 01:30:18,479
Speaker 1: not mistaken, first played a Hunter Henry over the middle

1825
01:30:19,160 --> 01:30:20,960
Speaker 1: for about a six yard game. Yeah, So, I mean

1826
01:30:21,040 --> 01:30:23,360
Speaker 1: to me, you know what I'm kind of way reading,

1827
01:30:23,400 --> 01:30:26,080
Speaker 1: way too much into things, is that you know, OUJA

1828
01:30:26,200 --> 01:30:28,880
Speaker 1: continue to probably be more of a passing down guy,

1829
01:30:28,960 --> 01:30:30,840
Speaker 1: not not an every down guy at least you know

1830
01:30:30,920 --> 01:30:33,479
Speaker 1: here we are two days into practice, but Anderson could

1831
01:30:33,479 --> 01:30:36,160
Speaker 1: definitely be an early down kind of edge setting option.

1832
01:30:36,240 --> 01:30:38,640
Speaker 1: It seems like, what did you guys take from some

1833
01:30:38,720 --> 01:30:40,840
Speaker 1: of the comments about Ja yesterday. It seems like a

1834
01:30:40,880 --> 01:30:42,920
Speaker 1: lot of us and heard the same stuff last year. Like,

1835
01:30:43,000 --> 01:30:44,720
Speaker 1: I get it, he's a really athletic guy, and he

1836
01:30:44,800 --> 01:30:46,560
Speaker 1: works hard and he says all the right things. But

1837
01:30:47,160 --> 01:30:50,439
Speaker 1: you know, he's played three years or two years. I mean,

1838
01:30:50,720 --> 01:30:53,479
Speaker 1: you know, you've seen a handful of little plays here

1839
01:30:53,520 --> 01:30:55,560
Speaker 1: and there that that may tell he seems athletic, but

1840
01:30:55,960 --> 01:30:57,920
Speaker 1: you know, you just you don't have the consistency yet.

1841
01:30:58,000 --> 01:31:00,040
Speaker 1: And you know, last year they're saying, oh, he and

1842
01:31:00,120 --> 01:31:01,840
Speaker 1: play any position on the field. That's great, Like you

1843
01:31:01,960 --> 01:31:04,600
Speaker 1: just I just need him to play sixty percent of

1844
01:31:04,640 --> 01:31:06,720
Speaker 1: the snaps. I need him to be disruptive, need him

1845
01:31:06,720 --> 01:31:08,280
Speaker 1: to get You know, what we heard about him when

1846
01:31:08,320 --> 01:31:10,040
Speaker 1: he came out was that, you know, had a unique

1847
01:31:10,080 --> 01:31:12,160
Speaker 1: ability to kind of bend the edge as a pass rusher.

1848
01:31:12,240 --> 01:31:14,519
Speaker 1: So you know, they can continue to pump him up

1849
01:31:14,520 --> 01:31:16,120
Speaker 1: and we can continue to feel like, oh that there,

1850
01:31:16,240 --> 01:31:18,479
Speaker 1: there's potential there, and there certainly you know is with

1851
01:31:18,560 --> 01:31:20,519
Speaker 1: some of his athleticism, but it just you know, it

1852
01:31:20,640 --> 01:31:22,439
Speaker 1: has to it has to produce on the field, and

1853
01:31:22,479 --> 01:31:24,680
Speaker 1: it has to be consistent, and you know that's been

1854
01:31:25,120 --> 01:31:26,960
Speaker 1: what's missing. And it's hard to come out of training

1855
01:31:27,000 --> 01:31:29,320
Speaker 1: camp and feel like, oh, I feel great about it,

1856
01:31:29,400 --> 01:31:30,720
Speaker 1: Like he's got to do it in games like that's

1857
01:31:30,760 --> 01:31:32,680
Speaker 1: where it's gotta I gotta show up. I mean last year,

1858
01:31:32,680 --> 01:31:35,040
Speaker 1: I think early on he was productive, but you know,

1859
01:31:35,080 --> 01:31:41,480
Speaker 1: it just wasn't consistent. Little drop back flip to Stevenson

1860
01:31:42,000 --> 01:31:46,439
Speaker 1: otherwise known as a screen Yeah, is that what they

1861
01:31:46,479 --> 01:31:48,960
Speaker 1: call those? Was that a screen? I want to see

1862
01:31:48,960 --> 01:31:51,160
Speaker 1: if I can make Fred punch me before before the

1863
01:31:51,280 --> 01:31:54,800
Speaker 1: end of the podcast the camera. I mean it was

1864
01:31:54,840 --> 01:31:57,000
Speaker 1: a what do they call it bubble screen? Because that

1865
01:31:57,120 --> 01:31:58,519
Speaker 1: was just a little screen. I mean like they let

1866
01:31:58,560 --> 01:32:01,160
Speaker 1: the sort of let those the defensive line in, you

1867
01:32:01,280 --> 01:32:04,000
Speaker 1: dump it over him and you get the offensive linemen

1868
01:32:04,040 --> 01:32:06,839
Speaker 1: are out in front. I mean they run a variety

1869
01:32:06,920 --> 01:32:10,680
Speaker 1: of screen looks. Yeah, and I think Stevenson could be

1870
01:32:10,720 --> 01:32:12,320
Speaker 1: a guy that could be very effective with that. I

1871
01:32:12,400 --> 01:32:14,880
Speaker 1: think he did that in very small spurts last year

1872
01:32:14,920 --> 01:32:18,360
Speaker 1: and made some plays. Yeah. I saw some video against Carolina. Yeah,

1873
01:32:18,520 --> 01:32:21,719
Speaker 1: I saw us a video of him catching the ball yesterday,

1874
01:32:22,040 --> 01:32:23,960
Speaker 1: you know, after practice. Not something I watched live, but

1875
01:32:24,280 --> 01:32:26,559
Speaker 1: looks like a natural he does. He does, he catches

1876
01:32:26,640 --> 01:32:33,439
Speaker 1: the ball. Well, obviously Harris isn't out here. Yeah, but

1877
01:32:33,600 --> 01:32:37,920
Speaker 1: here comes to Thornton rep. Wait, wait, Damian Harris. He's

1878
01:32:38,280 --> 01:32:40,559
Speaker 1: he's not playing, I mean he's not Damian Harris. Yeah,

1879
01:32:40,600 --> 01:32:42,920
Speaker 1: thirty seven. Yes, I haven't heard it. I haven't seen

1880
01:32:43,000 --> 01:32:44,960
Speaker 1: him once. Yeah, he's been out here. Have you seen

1881
01:32:45,040 --> 01:32:48,240
Speaker 1: him take a play? Yeah? Really, they've thrown screens to him.

1882
01:32:48,520 --> 01:32:50,200
Speaker 1: I haven't. I haven't seen one. Yeah, I don't know

1883
01:32:50,280 --> 01:32:52,800
Speaker 1: where he is right this second. Maybe he's off somewhere else.

1884
01:32:52,880 --> 01:32:56,400
Speaker 1: But he has been involved in this practice. Okay, I

1885
01:32:56,520 --> 01:33:01,040
Speaker 1: haven't seen him. I'm I'm not telling you exactly where

1886
01:33:01,080 --> 01:33:03,599
Speaker 1: he is right now. I see it. Maybe maybe something

1887
01:33:03,640 --> 01:33:05,360
Speaker 1: happened to him and he's not doing anything now, but

1888
01:33:05,640 --> 01:33:07,720
Speaker 1: he's been involved in this practice. I see him on

1889
01:33:07,720 --> 01:33:09,840
Speaker 1: the sideline, but I haven't seen him run a play.

1890
01:33:09,920 --> 01:33:12,599
Speaker 1: So now with this second group offensive line, does your

1891
01:33:12,680 --> 01:33:17,080
Speaker 1: boy Russy is at center? So maybe after Will Sherman

1892
01:33:17,120 --> 01:33:20,320
Speaker 1: broke Mac Jones's finger, no longer one him in there.

1893
01:33:20,400 --> 01:33:22,519
Speaker 1: That's snap, that's snap. How do you break somebody's finger

1894
01:33:22,560 --> 01:33:25,880
Speaker 1: with a shotgun? Snap? The snap that he fumbled was

1895
01:33:25,920 --> 01:33:31,519
Speaker 1: not a shot that was throwaway from Zappy. He wasn't happy, No,

1896
01:33:31,800 --> 01:33:35,360
Speaker 1: zappy not happy. Take a lappy to get zappy with

1897
01:33:35,439 --> 01:33:40,400
Speaker 1: that one. Yea? All right, all right, all right? Ten

1898
01:33:40,600 --> 01:33:42,439
Speaker 1: forty eight. So we've been going for a good, uh

1899
01:33:43,520 --> 01:33:45,000
Speaker 1: good hour and a half. What did they say what

1900
01:33:45,240 --> 01:33:48,639
Speaker 1: they expected today? A little longer than yesterday? Yeah? Yeah,

1901
01:33:48,800 --> 01:33:52,000
Speaker 1: ramping it up, ramping it up? Yeah? How long did

1902
01:33:52,040 --> 01:33:55,320
Speaker 1: they go yesterday? About ninety minutes. Yeah, I think we'd

1903
01:33:55,360 --> 01:33:58,840
Speaker 1: done at eleven yesterday, right, yeah, yeah, so they'll go

1904
01:33:58,920 --> 01:34:03,519
Speaker 1: a little longer problem today. Does that be? Oh Jesus,

1905
01:34:03,640 --> 01:34:08,320
Speaker 1: there's a lot of contacting. Hell on, ye, Jewan Williams

1906
01:34:08,360 --> 01:34:14,680
Speaker 1: almost took his life. Who gonna you talk about an

1907
01:34:14,680 --> 01:34:18,200
Speaker 1: impossible task though? They have no pads on and they

1908
01:34:18,280 --> 01:34:22,679
Speaker 1: put those sort of sparring gloves on the defensive backs. Yep,

1909
01:34:22,880 --> 01:34:25,719
Speaker 1: Like what do you want me to do? I can't

1910
01:34:25,800 --> 01:34:30,439
Speaker 1: touch him, so that when you do make a play,

1911
01:34:30,479 --> 01:34:33,679
Speaker 1: it's even better. Yeah, yeah, more you make an interception

1912
01:34:33,760 --> 01:34:38,120
Speaker 1: with those things you were cooking with gas. That's a

1913
01:34:39,280 --> 01:34:41,600
Speaker 1: it's a miss Carney quote right there. Oh yeah, my

1914
01:34:41,680 --> 01:34:43,960
Speaker 1: ap English teacher in high school, cooking with gas now

1915
01:34:44,160 --> 01:34:49,479
Speaker 1: cook with cooking with gas now kids. Wow. So that

1916
01:34:49,640 --> 01:34:52,280
Speaker 1: was interesting. So you had Mac rolled, you know, to

1917
01:34:52,600 --> 01:34:55,680
Speaker 1: his right, you had JJ Taylor coming out of the back,

1918
01:34:55,760 --> 01:34:57,759
Speaker 1: and he chose not to go to Taylor. He wanted

1919
01:34:57,760 --> 01:35:00,320
Speaker 1: to go downfield, but there was nothing there and Mac

1920
01:35:00,439 --> 01:35:06,439
Speaker 1: ended up probably running for no game. So that was

1921
01:35:06,479 --> 01:35:08,680
Speaker 1: another one of those off platform plays. Yeah, not the

1922
01:35:08,720 --> 01:35:11,800
Speaker 1: way it was drawing up there. See you get do

1923
01:35:11,840 --> 01:35:13,600
Speaker 1: you get an over? You get an over? Oh? On

1924
01:35:13,680 --> 01:35:16,200
Speaker 1: that one or an over one. If you're doing it right,

1925
01:35:16,240 --> 01:35:18,160
Speaker 1: it's a sack. But I don't know what they'll be doing.

1926
01:35:18,200 --> 01:35:20,479
Speaker 1: I'm sure you completed it the way Taylor came out.

1927
01:35:20,560 --> 01:35:24,880
Speaker 1: He was definitely looking for the ball, so I don't

1928
01:35:24,920 --> 01:35:30,400
Speaker 1: know what was going on there. Yeah, So we continue

1929
01:35:30,439 --> 01:35:33,400
Speaker 1: to see Terrence Mitchell, by the way, with Jalen Mills. Yeah.

1930
01:35:33,840 --> 01:35:36,360
Speaker 1: So the first couple of days anyway, the veteran Mitchell

1931
01:35:36,960 --> 01:35:39,840
Speaker 1: looks like he has a leg up over Butler. Ye

1932
01:35:40,240 --> 01:35:44,320
Speaker 1: in that race. Yeah, with Jack Jones kind of a

1933
01:35:45,160 --> 01:35:49,240
Speaker 1: Jack Jones comes in with the second group um generally,

1934
01:35:49,600 --> 01:35:51,720
Speaker 1: and Marcus Jones is getting a lot of reps too

1935
01:35:51,920 --> 01:35:56,000
Speaker 1: in the slide ye. All right, So that that's the

1936
01:35:56,120 --> 01:35:58,559
Speaker 1: end of that session. Have you seen anything from Sean

1937
01:35:58,680 --> 01:36:01,160
Speaker 1: Wade Mike, Not really. I mean he has been out

1938
01:36:01,160 --> 01:36:02,360
Speaker 1: there in the slot a little bit. I mean it

1939
01:36:02,400 --> 01:36:04,880
Speaker 1: seems like he's probably the top slot guy with with

1940
01:36:05,040 --> 01:36:07,639
Speaker 1: Jonathan Jones and Miles Bryant out but but nothing that's

1941
01:36:07,640 --> 01:36:10,280
Speaker 1: really stood out to me of of good or bad. Yeah,

1942
01:36:10,439 --> 01:36:13,559
Speaker 1: that's a good. Oh, it's got a little field goal

1943
01:36:13,640 --> 01:36:15,679
Speaker 1: work here, Fred, So maybe it's going to be similar

1944
01:36:15,680 --> 01:36:20,240
Speaker 1: to yesterday. Oh, Tristan Viskno emailer writes in what do

1945
01:36:20,280 --> 01:36:22,559
Speaker 1: you think about Dabrill Peppers and how much of an

1946
01:36:22,640 --> 01:36:25,240
Speaker 1: impact he'll have? That's a good question. When's he going

1947
01:36:25,280 --> 01:36:27,479
Speaker 1: to be healthy? And how does you know Josh Bledsoe

1948
01:36:27,520 --> 01:36:29,760
Speaker 1: getting off to a good start, How does that impact things?

1949
01:36:29,840 --> 01:36:31,960
Speaker 1: I mean, you've got I mean, you could possibly have

1950
01:36:32,120 --> 01:36:34,280
Speaker 1: five safeties that you know all have looked, you know,

1951
01:36:34,360 --> 01:36:37,040
Speaker 1: pretty good and been in the mix. It's a it's

1952
01:36:37,080 --> 01:36:40,040
Speaker 1: a great question. I'm not sure exactly, but I think

1953
01:36:40,080 --> 01:36:43,120
Speaker 1: the first thing to happen is getting Peppers back out

1954
01:36:43,160 --> 01:36:44,840
Speaker 1: on the field. We don't know he's on the PP list,

1955
01:36:44,880 --> 01:36:46,320
Speaker 1: so we don't know when that's going to happen just yet.

1956
01:36:47,680 --> 01:36:51,960
Speaker 1: Charles writes in lifelong fan from Montreal Love the Show,

1957
01:36:52,120 --> 01:36:55,000
Speaker 1: was wondering if the whole mystery behind Patricia and Judge

1958
01:36:55,280 --> 01:36:57,560
Speaker 1: had anything to do with clauses in their contracts with

1959
01:36:57,640 --> 01:37:00,200
Speaker 1: their former employees. If the Patriots would have them in

1960
01:37:00,400 --> 01:37:03,679
Speaker 1: higher echelon rolls, would they have to pay their remaining balance.

1961
01:37:05,400 --> 01:37:07,960
Speaker 1: That's a good question. They'd have to pay them period. Yeah,

1962
01:37:08,600 --> 01:37:11,280
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's a valid question, it really, it

1963
01:37:11,439 --> 01:37:13,320
Speaker 1: is a valid question. I don't know the answer to it,

1964
01:37:13,400 --> 01:37:16,280
Speaker 1: but it's a valid question. Yeah, I'm not sure if

1965
01:37:16,320 --> 01:37:20,880
Speaker 1: this Kanya hit that one or or missed it. Barton Poland,

1966
01:37:21,280 --> 01:37:22,960
Speaker 1: Am I the only one that's seeing a lot of

1967
01:37:23,040 --> 01:37:25,439
Speaker 1: Jimmy g and Max stance and release this year? The

1968
01:37:25,560 --> 01:37:28,360
Speaker 1: stance is almost identical and the release seems to be

1969
01:37:28,520 --> 01:37:32,479
Speaker 1: much compact, much more compact and faster. You're watching it

1970
01:37:32,520 --> 01:37:35,000
Speaker 1: closer than me, I guess, yeah, I don't see much

1971
01:37:35,280 --> 01:37:38,080
Speaker 1: difference in I would away Mac is throwing. I would

1972
01:37:38,080 --> 01:37:42,240
Speaker 1: ask if that's a good thing. Jimmy looks like the

1973
01:37:42,320 --> 01:37:47,519
Speaker 1: forty nine ers are gonna yeah. Yeah, so they've announced

1974
01:37:47,560 --> 01:37:51,639
Speaker 1: that they're definitely gonna be going with Trey Lance. Yea,

1975
01:37:51,840 --> 01:37:55,800
Speaker 1: So Jimmy's either gonna get traded or released by the

1976
01:37:55,880 --> 01:37:59,599
Speaker 1: start of camp, by the start of the season. Who

1977
01:37:59,600 --> 01:38:03,639
Speaker 1: would your to have Jimmy Garoppolo or Baker Mayfield Garoppolo? Yeah,

1978
01:38:03,840 --> 01:38:07,280
Speaker 1: me too. I don't know. I'd have to sit down

1979
01:38:07,320 --> 01:38:10,320
Speaker 1: with with Baker and look him in the eye and

1980
01:38:10,920 --> 01:38:13,840
Speaker 1: you see where his head shake his hands, get a

1981
01:38:13,880 --> 01:38:16,439
Speaker 1: sense of his comportment. Yeah, I think we see his

1982
01:38:16,520 --> 01:38:20,639
Speaker 1: comportment pretty much. He's it's kind of Paul like where

1983
01:38:20,640 --> 01:38:23,080
Speaker 1: he kind of wishes emotions on his sleeve. I think

1984
01:38:23,120 --> 01:38:26,840
Speaker 1: you have a lot of you know, yeah, a lot

1985
01:38:26,880 --> 01:38:28,840
Speaker 1: of mysterious to what's going on in his mind at

1986
01:38:28,880 --> 01:38:34,840
Speaker 1: most times. What about I don't know. I'm trying to

1987
01:38:34,960 --> 01:38:37,600
Speaker 1: wrap my brain thinking about where he could possibly and

1988
01:38:37,680 --> 01:38:44,480
Speaker 1: adapt teams that still, I mean, Washington doesn't seem like all.

1989
01:38:44,520 --> 01:38:46,360
Speaker 1: I think Seattle would make the most sense. I mean,

1990
01:38:46,400 --> 01:38:50,240
Speaker 1: and they have literally no option. They've got Geno Smith

1991
01:38:50,280 --> 01:38:52,519
Speaker 1: and Drew Locke. Yeah, like, I can't believe Geno Smith

1992
01:38:52,640 --> 01:38:55,400
Speaker 1: Roppolo is not better than those two guys. Yeah, he'd

1993
01:38:55,439 --> 01:38:57,559
Speaker 1: be perfect there. And then I was sort of wondering.

1994
01:38:57,600 --> 01:38:59,920
Speaker 1: I think this is one of those where the betting

1995
01:39:00,040 --> 01:39:03,160
Speaker 1: odds are impacted and you wonder if it has something

1996
01:39:03,200 --> 01:39:05,040
Speaker 1: to do with the market. But the giants I hear

1997
01:39:05,040 --> 01:39:07,639
Speaker 1: a lot, Oh yeah, with Daniel Jones in the last year,

1998
01:39:07,920 --> 01:39:10,800
Speaker 1: Jimmy in New York. Well with table a guy that

1999
01:39:10,960 --> 01:39:13,640
Speaker 1: you know, they might have some similarities to what Garoppolo

2000
01:39:13,760 --> 01:39:15,400
Speaker 1: was able to do. Now, that one looked like you

2001
01:39:15,479 --> 01:39:18,880
Speaker 1: missed it. But they always haigh five of them, so

2002
01:39:19,000 --> 01:39:23,280
Speaker 1: you can never know for sure. You can't tell, all right,

2003
01:39:23,400 --> 01:39:25,519
Speaker 1: looks like they're probably gonna do some Red Zone. We're

2004
01:39:25,520 --> 01:39:28,960
Speaker 1: gonna get some We're gonna get a little uh no music.

2005
01:39:29,320 --> 01:39:31,719
Speaker 1: I'd like to hear some some music. Kick in music

2006
01:39:32,960 --> 01:39:37,560
Speaker 1: talked No, it's good that they haven't done to h

2007
01:39:37,640 --> 01:39:42,000
Speaker 1: any in Cleveland. Right. He's from Burlington, Vermont, from and

2008
01:39:42,120 --> 01:39:45,960
Speaker 1: then from Boston, from Santa Rosa, California, from Amhurst, then Burlington,

2009
01:39:46,280 --> 01:39:50,080
Speaker 1: So he's been all around. I've been. We know who

2010
01:39:50,160 --> 01:39:53,200
Speaker 1: the oc is. Mac Jones. He caught Cam the He

2011
01:39:53,680 --> 01:39:56,799
Speaker 1: taught Cam the offense last year, he taught Bill O'Brien

2012
01:39:56,880 --> 01:40:00,719
Speaker 1: the Bama offense, and now he's teaching the po aition coaches.

2013
01:40:01,000 --> 01:40:03,519
Speaker 1: When you see Judge of Patricia talking to him, they're

2014
01:40:03,520 --> 01:40:08,280
Speaker 1: asking him questions, not teaching him. Kidding, of course. I

2015
01:40:08,320 --> 01:40:11,000
Speaker 1: don't think you're that far off, Yeah, King of course.

2016
01:40:11,080 --> 01:40:13,360
Speaker 1: But Matisa, Matt, can we please get the drop of

2017
01:40:13,439 --> 01:40:16,400
Speaker 1: Peter Griffin? Oh my god, who the hell cares? Every

2018
01:40:16,479 --> 01:40:19,560
Speaker 1: time this comes up? Nothing against pu I know you

2019
01:40:19,680 --> 01:40:21,960
Speaker 1: guys have to respond to the conversation out there in

2020
01:40:22,000 --> 01:40:24,320
Speaker 1: the media, and I feel like you don't dwell on it.

2021
01:40:24,640 --> 01:40:28,400
Speaker 1: But this week ESPN was stretching some real mileage out

2022
01:40:28,439 --> 01:40:32,720
Speaker 1: of this non story. Is Belichick abusing his power. That's

2023
01:40:32,760 --> 01:40:35,760
Speaker 1: the real headline they were running. I just don't know

2024
01:40:35,880 --> 01:40:39,720
Speaker 1: why anybody, you know, in all seriousness, I just don't

2025
01:40:39,760 --> 01:40:42,880
Speaker 1: know why anybody would look from Afar and see a

2026
01:40:43,000 --> 01:40:46,200
Speaker 1: situation where a team doesn't have a named offensive coordinator

2027
01:40:46,320 --> 01:40:49,960
Speaker 1: and there's confusionist of how the operations going to work

2028
01:40:49,960 --> 01:40:52,599
Speaker 1: and not think that that's a story. I just I mean,

2029
01:40:52,720 --> 01:40:55,120
Speaker 1: you can say I think it'll work out if you

2030
01:40:55,240 --> 01:40:57,560
Speaker 1: if you're optimistic, and I have no problem with me

2031
01:40:57,600 --> 01:41:00,160
Speaker 1: an optimistic, honestly I don't. But I don't know how

2032
01:41:00,200 --> 01:41:02,360
Speaker 1: you can say that that's not that's a non story.

2033
01:41:02,439 --> 01:41:05,800
Speaker 1: And you have to remember with these shows, their mentality is,

2034
01:41:07,400 --> 01:41:10,600
Speaker 1: you know, we haven't talked about it yet, so you know,

2035
01:41:10,840 --> 01:41:13,320
Speaker 1: this is the first time anyone's heard about it, you know,

2036
01:41:13,439 --> 01:41:15,840
Speaker 1: like they don't listen to all the other shows and go, oh,

2037
01:41:15,960 --> 01:41:18,519
Speaker 1: that other show on Fox talked about it, so we can.

2038
01:41:18,640 --> 01:41:20,120
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what else I listened to a

2039
01:41:20,200 --> 01:41:23,439
Speaker 1: lot is players. When players talk about these things, and

2040
01:41:23,520 --> 01:41:26,519
Speaker 1: they you know, when Jason mccordy is talking about I'm

2041
01:41:26,560 --> 01:41:30,000
Speaker 1: not really sure how this is gonna work, there's confusion, like, hey,

2042
01:41:30,439 --> 01:41:32,640
Speaker 1: his brother is still on the team. So that concerns me.

2043
01:41:33,040 --> 01:41:35,360
Speaker 1: And if that's sort of a mentality that's coming from

2044
01:41:35,640 --> 01:41:39,160
Speaker 1: But if that's what players think, like Damian Woody was

2045
01:41:39,200 --> 01:41:43,479
Speaker 1: talking about it like that, like holds weight with me

2046
01:41:43,640 --> 01:41:46,240
Speaker 1: like that, that that's important to me. If the players

2047
01:41:46,960 --> 01:41:49,360
Speaker 1: from Afar are kind of confused as to how something

2048
01:41:49,479 --> 01:41:52,880
Speaker 1: like that might work, then I think it's it's a story.

2049
01:41:53,160 --> 01:41:59,000
Speaker 1: You got mac uh shotgun. There's that quarter, but it's yeah,

2050
01:42:00,120 --> 01:42:02,519
Speaker 1: it down last yesterday, but not today. He didn't get

2051
01:42:02,520 --> 01:42:04,320
Speaker 1: any feed in. Yeah, he caught the ball, but he

2052
01:42:04,320 --> 01:42:07,519
Speaker 1: didn't get it. He wasn't in bounce. Three unproductive reps

2053
01:42:07,560 --> 01:42:09,680
Speaker 1: there for the offensive. I think the ball needed to

2054
01:42:09,720 --> 01:42:12,760
Speaker 1: come out sooner because you know, I don't even think

2055
01:42:12,760 --> 01:42:14,439
Speaker 1: he was open. I felt like he threw it soon,

2056
01:42:14,520 --> 01:42:16,400
Speaker 1: but it was like he was never gonna get you.

2057
01:42:16,479 --> 01:42:18,360
Speaker 1: By the time the ball got there, the lord was

2058
01:42:18,400 --> 01:42:22,360
Speaker 1: already one step out of bound so hard. So one

2059
01:42:22,479 --> 01:42:24,320
Speaker 1: was the Parker, one was the agglorder due what was

2060
01:42:24,360 --> 01:42:32,600
Speaker 1: the other one? I forget? Oh good, that is the

2061
01:42:32,680 --> 01:42:34,360
Speaker 1: one he tucked down. He didn't he didn't throw it.

2062
01:42:34,720 --> 01:42:39,439
Speaker 1: Oh okay, Well, I just want to say something. Though

2063
01:42:39,520 --> 01:42:42,640
Speaker 1: I say it, I hear what people are saying, and

2064
01:42:42,720 --> 01:42:45,600
Speaker 1: I hear the points about wondering how the operation is

2065
01:42:45,600 --> 01:42:47,880
Speaker 1: going to run. But I also saw a clip last

2066
01:42:48,000 --> 01:42:51,160
Speaker 1: night of from Man in the Arena a Brady talking

2067
01:42:51,200 --> 01:42:55,760
Speaker 1: about meeting with Belichick every Tuesday and Belichick teaching him

2068
01:42:55,840 --> 01:42:58,200
Speaker 1: to see the game the way that he sees the game.

2069
01:42:58,439 --> 01:43:01,000
Speaker 1: And so I do think that there is an incredible

2070
01:43:01,040 --> 01:43:04,640
Speaker 1: amount of value for Mac Jones and getting tutored by

2071
01:43:04,720 --> 01:43:07,559
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick, and by all accounts, he's been intimately involved

2072
01:43:07,560 --> 01:43:09,560
Speaker 1: with the offense. So yes, I can wonder how the

2073
01:43:09,560 --> 01:43:11,360
Speaker 1: plays are gonna get called and what that's gonna be.

2074
01:43:11,680 --> 01:43:14,120
Speaker 1: But I can also feel like I'm pretty glad that

2075
01:43:14,240 --> 01:43:17,200
Speaker 1: Mac Jones is getting tutored by Bill Belichick and getting

2076
01:43:17,240 --> 01:43:19,759
Speaker 1: the same education that Tom Brady got. But that happened

2077
01:43:19,840 --> 01:43:23,400
Speaker 1: last year. Yeah, now who's calling the place for the

2078
01:43:23,479 --> 01:43:25,840
Speaker 1: second year? Though, I mean we're continuing to build that, Like,

2079
01:43:25,960 --> 01:43:27,640
Speaker 1: do you think like he sits with Bill for one year.

2080
01:43:27,640 --> 01:43:29,919
Speaker 1: I don't worry about Bill. I don't worry about Bill Belichick.

2081
01:43:30,160 --> 01:43:32,840
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick can coach. I don't worry about his credentials.

2082
01:43:33,040 --> 01:43:35,559
Speaker 1: I worry about the defensive guys that have never coached

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Speaker 1: offen that's fine, and I'm not worry you. I'm with

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Speaker 1: you on that. But I just don't think that Mac

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Speaker 1: Jones is being completely We'll set out to dry and oh,

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Speaker 1: he's all. I'm gonna tell you right now, that's gonna

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Speaker 1: be the story if if it doesn't go well, it's

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Speaker 1: not gonna be Mac Jones's fault. I'll guarantee you that, right,

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Speaker 1: everybody will blame it on right, You're right, ye, but

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Speaker 1: you know again, it'll be in context. You have to

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Speaker 1: see the game. If Mac is just not playing well,

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01:44:05,720 --> 01:44:08,439
Speaker 1: they'll you know, there'll be no choice but to you know,

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Speaker 1: pin blame on him. But if we see delay of games,

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Speaker 1: if we see well, that's what we see. I mean.

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Speaker 1: And I again, like just like right now, like this

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Speaker 1: is fascinating to me, like that. I did not expect

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Speaker 1: to see Bill Belichick given the plays to the quarterback,

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Speaker 1: like I thought he would still stay above that fray.

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Speaker 1: But he's right in the mix with it too. So

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Speaker 1: here's what I would say. Okay, so you say like

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Speaker 1: it depends on how it looks, so Deuce, I totally

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Speaker 1: agree with your assessment. They came out here, you know,

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Speaker 1: sort of this late practice red zone full team and

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01:44:37,520 --> 01:44:40,559
Speaker 1: Mac came out and at three, as you said, unproductive plays.

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Speaker 1: So was it because of Mac Jones or was it

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01:44:45,680 --> 01:44:48,720
Speaker 1: because they had three bad play calls? Is this is

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Speaker 1: this whole thing designed to help the defense because the

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Speaker 1: defense is really, I think, controlling this whole I think

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Speaker 1: the defense has been much better, to say than it

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Speaker 1: was yesterday in general. Yeah, but I also think that

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Speaker 1: there could be you know, sort of a rhythm to that,

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Speaker 1: you know, a meaning to that, you know that we

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01:45:05,240 --> 01:45:07,680
Speaker 1: don't know right from afar, Like, I just think that

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01:45:08,120 --> 01:45:11,400
Speaker 1: the knee jerk reaction will be immediate. Well, what do

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01:45:11,439 --> 01:45:14,680
Speaker 1: you expect. They don't have any direction on offense, And

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01:45:14,840 --> 01:45:19,280
Speaker 1: that's not fair, but it might not be wrong, That's

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But it can be whatever you want

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01:45:20,840 --> 01:45:24,080
Speaker 1: it to be exactly. So it was yesterday good because

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Speaker 1: they had direction that off I mean, you know, it

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Speaker 1: just doesn't make any sense. I thought they were very

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01:45:28,320 --> 01:45:30,920
Speaker 1: up and down yesterday. Today they were getting dominant. I

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01:45:31,040 --> 01:45:35,360
Speaker 1: thought yesterday the offense looked pretty good, you know early. Yeah,

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01:45:35,640 --> 01:45:38,439
Speaker 1: and as as Boyne said, we went dry for a while.

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01:45:38,520 --> 01:45:40,200
Speaker 1: So you're getting a little bit of what we talked

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Speaker 1: about earlier with Mac. It feels like a little bit

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01:45:42,320 --> 01:45:44,880
Speaker 1: like let's go so here, we'll see another another few

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01:45:44,960 --> 01:45:47,080
Speaker 1: set of wraps. Belichick giving them the giving them the

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01:45:47,120 --> 01:45:51,400
Speaker 1: playfall here. Yeah, it's definitely Belichick. And my guess is

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01:45:51,439 --> 01:45:53,519
Speaker 1: these plays are going to be more successful than the

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01:45:53,600 --> 01:45:56,280
Speaker 1: first set. I'm gonna I'm gonna guess that, right Belichick.

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01:45:57,200 --> 01:46:00,719
Speaker 1: I Belichick was excited. Belichick has been doing the places time. Okay,

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Speaker 1: but I'm gonna guess this. This is kind of a

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Speaker 1: script to it. Okay, all right, No, I mean you

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01:46:08,120 --> 01:46:11,360
Speaker 1: could be rightful. There's a lot of things going on

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Speaker 1: down there in terms of alcohol. Plays are called that.

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Speaker 1: We have no idea. Now, that's a good play by

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Speaker 1: the defense. Got his hand in there and broke up

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Speaker 1: past of Aggalore I think had the last breakup too,

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01:46:27,080 --> 01:46:36,320
Speaker 1: bled sofen and yeah, and look at look at Devin mccordy.

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01:46:36,479 --> 01:46:41,000
Speaker 1: He's playing the role of the receivers yesterday. He's flexing

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01:46:41,080 --> 01:46:43,280
Speaker 1: to the crowd, he's trying to get some reaction. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and he's sticking Damian. Damian Harris is giving him. I'm

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Speaker 1: not yet, I'm not trying to hear that. Yeah, it's good.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you want to see that competition. You definitely

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01:46:54,080 --> 01:46:57,320
Speaker 1: want to see them going out of each other. Well,

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01:46:57,400 --> 01:46:59,120
Speaker 1: you can feel you feel the energy, I mean, not

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01:46:59,200 --> 01:47:02,000
Speaker 1: the energy, the competitive kind of juice. Right now, it

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01:47:02,080 --> 01:47:04,240
Speaker 1: feels like it's kind of building up a little bit. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I like it. I like it. Max still at quarterback

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Speaker 1: shotgun strips. Right, there's that no see sideline I mean

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01:47:22,000 --> 01:47:26,320
Speaker 1: not sideline, fake corner, not even competitive hunter Henry got

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01:47:26,400 --> 01:47:29,479
Speaker 1: held up and the ball just bounced out of bounce.

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Speaker 1: That's another good point. And I know you didn't mean

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01:47:31,479 --> 01:47:36,040
Speaker 1: it like literally, but there's way more like on the

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01:47:36,240 --> 01:47:39,840
Speaker 1: on the line sort of jostling today, Like even on

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01:47:40,160 --> 01:47:44,080
Speaker 1: Mills break up on the quick slant to Agalore, he

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Speaker 1: might have had like the back the back shirt a

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01:47:46,600 --> 01:47:51,200
Speaker 1: little bit which gave him some leverage. Um, so there

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01:47:51,320 --> 01:47:54,000
Speaker 1: is a little bit more physicality I think. Um yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know with the defensive backs today, well John John

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Speaker 1: back and forth trying Trent Brown just uh over to

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Speaker 1: the sideline there, so you're on a lap or is

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01:48:04,520 --> 01:48:06,519
Speaker 1: he just uh? I think he's on a lap. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: never mind, Yeah, nothing to see here. Then he must

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Speaker 1: have just jumped off side. There you go. That's a

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Speaker 1: nice Yeah, Trent's laps look like us walking, so you

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01:48:16,439 --> 01:48:18,479
Speaker 1: can never really tell, but he's definitely on a lap

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Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, it might have moved. I think Mac

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Speaker 1: miss KB in the back of though he had him. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I thought he was open on that one. Devin. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it seems like defense feeling a little bit right now. Absolutely. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: You see a lot of talking for Devin too, and

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Speaker 1: that's him and Damian Harris are having some fun. Trent

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Speaker 1: Brown's lap continuing now and to the far and zones.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, you know, do you think like

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Speaker 1: the defense after yesterday comes out before practices, we're not

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Speaker 1: gonna let him do what they did yesterday to that,

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Speaker 1: you know, and so they just get a little bit

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Speaker 1: more physical, I just think, and mocking the offense from yesterday,

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01:49:02,160 --> 01:49:05,080
Speaker 1: you know, like getting excited about the routine and now

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01:49:05,160 --> 01:49:08,080
Speaker 1: they're sort of doing the same thing. There's a quick

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Speaker 1: throw and it catch Dter Henry. Yeah, that was h Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, I've noticed those plays a couple of times.

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01:49:13,680 --> 01:49:16,040
Speaker 1: We're just you know, the quick rollouts from Mac. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: first successful and they're they're over celebrating right now a

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Speaker 1: little bit. It's really you know, yeah, I mean for

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Speaker 1: seeing now one for eight. It's the same as yesterday.

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01:49:25,960 --> 01:49:27,800
Speaker 1: The last play was the only one that counted, so

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Speaker 1: the defense is Mike's not exaggerating. They were like one

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01:49:31,680 --> 01:49:34,200
Speaker 1: for ten and the last one was completed. All the

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Speaker 1: defense of the sideline took push ups after that, and

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Speaker 1: just like as a point of comparison, it was a

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Speaker 1: very similar kind of play yesterday. It was a quick

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Speaker 1: squirt out of the backfield for Damian Harrison. Quick squirt, sorry, um,

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Speaker 1: And this one was a quick sprint out to Hunter Henry.

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Speaker 1: I mean, in this kind of a setting, almost impossible

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Speaker 1: to stop a play like that. So that looks it yep,

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01:49:54,600 --> 01:49:57,280
Speaker 1: Um that you heard the horn. The players are heading

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Speaker 1: to the hills where they do sprints after practice, run

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Speaker 1: out that hill. Yeah right, So that'll be it, um,

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Speaker 1: and that'll be it for us. We want to thank

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Speaker 1: everyone for watching and listening today. Reminder we'll be back

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Speaker 1: at it tomorrow Friday. Friday, will you be able to

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Speaker 1: another edition of Live Training Camp Practice from Gillette Stadium.

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