1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. I'm Tutor Dixon and 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: it is great to have you tuning into the podcast today. 3 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: I am joined by an expert in historical and constitutional issues, 4 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: David Barton. He's the founder of Wall Builders, a published 5 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 1: author and speaker on America's forgotten foundation. As we lead 6 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: up to celebrating the fourth of July America's Independence, I 7 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: wanted to talk to David Barton about everything American independence. 8 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to the podcast. 9 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 2: Great to be with you, Tutor. Thank you. 10 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 1: I'm really excited about this because our girls have been 11 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 1: studying American history in school this year, and it's just 12 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:39,919 Speaker 1: been so fun to watch them learn this through a 13 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 1: Christian lens, because they go to a Christian school, and 14 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 1: they've learned a lot about the true founding of the 15 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 1: country and the faith based founding of the country, which 16 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: I think is lost in a lot of schools. In fact, 17 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: I know some of our congressmen were talking about or 18 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: I mean actually some of our local representatives here in Michigan. 19 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: We're talking about aout wanting to make sure people knew 20 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:04,479 Speaker 1: the faith foundation of the country, and there's a lot 21 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: of people fighting back on that right now. Just because 22 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: it's something that people don't like to acknowledge. But it 23 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: is really part of our history, isn't it. 24 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 2: I think it's not only part of our history. I 25 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 2: think it is probably the fundamental part of our history. 26 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 2: And this is fourth of July. But if I can 27 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 2: take George Washington, who was not part of the declaration whatever, 28 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:29,759 Speaker 2: but in his final farewell address after forty five years, 29 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 2: he leaves the country. He's leaving public office, but it 30 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 2: gives about a dozen warnings to Americans. And his farewell 31 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 2: address was so significant that you'll find that in so 32 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 2: many states it was required by state law that you 33 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 2: take a ritten exam on that farewell address once a 34 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 2: year for your first eight years of school. I mean, 35 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 2: this is a big deal. And the longest section he 36 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 2: has in that farewell address, he talks about religion and morality. 37 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 2: He calls him the indispensabul supports of political prosperity. He 38 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 2: even went so far as to say that he would 39 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 2: not let anyone claim the name patriot if they attempted 40 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 2: to remove religion morality from public life. So there's your 41 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 2: epitome of a patriot. He's the guy who led all 42 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 2: the patriots he's the leader of all the military forces. 43 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 2: As guys. I had patriots at Valley Forge, I had 44 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 2: them throughout the war. But I'm not going to let 45 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 2: you call yourself a patriot if you try to remove 46 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 2: religion morality. And that tells you how important it was 47 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 2: to him as commander in chief, and that's how important 48 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 2: it should be throughout history. And it was for the 49 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,959 Speaker 2: first century and a half two centuries. Since about the 50 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 2: nineteen sixties, it's gone the other direction. We're told, oh, no, 51 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,679 Speaker 2: these guys are a bunch of atheists agnostics in distin. 52 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:39,799 Speaker 2: You know, it was a secular nation. That's what made 53 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 2: us great. Man. When you go back to the actual 54 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 2: original documents and you study the stories of the people 55 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 2: who actually signed the declaration were there, you find it 56 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 2: overwhelmingly they were not only faith people, they were super 57 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 2: strong faith people. And that's part of the good story 58 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 2: that's just gotten away from us. 59 00:02:56,639 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: They were. And I think that people want that worry 60 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: to get away from us because it's almost easier to 61 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: ignore the fact that there is a Christian foundation here 62 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 1: in the country. And if we look today at what's 63 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: going on, I mean, we've seen a lot of talk 64 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: of Satanism. I mean even in one of our local 65 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: counties here in Michigan, they've launched a I don't even 66 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: know what you call it a They call it a 67 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: church to Satan. I can't even use those words. So 68 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: we're seeing that, we're seeing that in a lot of 69 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: these new logos for Pride. We've seen a lot of 70 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: indications that, well, Satan loves you and Jesus. I saw 71 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: somebody wearing a shirt the other day that said not 72 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: today Jesus. Like the shirts that say not today Satan. 73 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: I mean, what would our founding fathers think of that? 74 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 2: That is such a sad part of who we are 75 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 2: and what's happened to us. In addition, let me kind 76 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 2: of throw some background out. We own one hundred and 77 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 2: sixty thousand islands for American history, thanks for Columbus all 78 00:03:57,760 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 2: the way through the Bible that landed on the moon 79 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 2: of the Paul fourteen. So within that framework, we have 80 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 2: thousands and thousands and thousands of the handwritten documents of 81 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 2: those who signed the Declaration, those who signed the Constitution, etc. 82 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 2: And their faith is so super strong and it's really 83 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 2: evident in their writings. But I also deal with a 84 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 2: lot of states and ask in a lot of states 85 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 2: to help with their history standards and their social studies 86 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 2: standards and reveal those standards, and so governor's, state legislators, etc. 87 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 2: And then on top of that, we've been involved in 88 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 2: thirteen cases of the US Supreme Court, most of which 89 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 2: deal with religious liberty in some way. We were in 90 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 2: one last year, we already and won again this year. 91 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 2: And what has happened is I look at it from 92 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 2: history standpoint. When I look at history standards, I usually 93 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 2: don't look necessarily at just what they say. I look 94 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 2: at what they don't say, because I've learned that when 95 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 2: you stop talking about something, and if you stop talking 96 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 2: about for twenty thirty years, you can introduce a completely 97 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 2: new narrative in the situation, and nobody knows to stop 98 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 2: it because they didn't know what it was. So if 99 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,799 Speaker 2: I was to stop talking about Abraham Lincoln for thirty years, 100 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 2: we didn't do them at all. I could come back 101 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 2: thirty years from now, say, you know, Abraham Lincoln dropped 102 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 2: a nuclear weapon on Thailand in World War seventeen, and 103 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:16,359 Speaker 2: nobody would know any different because they don't even know 104 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 2: whose dude is. And that's pretty much what's happened with 105 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 2: our faith. We have so much going on now with 106 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 2: faith because we think, well, it was a secular nation, 107 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 2: secular founding for others, so they weren't strong on Christianity, 108 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 2: and that's just not true. So when you look at 109 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 2: where we are now and again going back to the Court, 110 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 2: between nineteen seventy one and twenty nineteen, the Court issued 111 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 2: seventy three hundred rulings removing some type of religious expression 112 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 2: from public affairs. So we have so thoroughly and aggressively 113 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 2: secularized the nation. We've taken it away from where it 114 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 2: should be. And the good news is in the last 115 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 2: four years, we generally win a religious celebrity case at 116 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,039 Speaker 2: the Supreme Court every five day eight years. In the 117 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 2: last four years we won eleven cases in the Supreme Court, 118 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 2: and the Supreme Court has rolled back those seventy three 119 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 2: hundred bad decisions to say they were all wrongly decided 120 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 2: and they're trying to move us back to the direction 121 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 2: it used to be. But now we have a very 122 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 2: secular minded nation and it's hard to move back toward 123 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 2: religious expressions. So we're fighting things like the Church of Satan, 124 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 2: as you mentioned, very hard thing to even say or acknowledge. 125 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:27,919 Speaker 2: We're fighting all sorts of things that would never have 126 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 2: been churches in any reasonable period of time in American 127 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 2: history that are being recognized as such now, and that's 128 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 2: because we've taken our own history out. We've been trying 129 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,239 Speaker 2: to commit suicide for a number of years and thankfully 130 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 2: if the Lord hadn't let us do that, and hopefully 131 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 2: we're turning it around. But nonetheless, it's a really tough 132 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 2: discussion to have now, and that would never have been 133 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 2: conceivable in the founder's minds, not under anything that they 134 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 2: plan designed or intended. And that's just you know, here 135 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 2: we are fighting in battle we shouldn't have to fight, 136 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 2: but we're fighting it because we've lost our own knowledge 137 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 2: of who are people. 138 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: We speak to a lot of political consultants regularly and 139 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: look out at what's on the horizon. And a few 140 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: months ago we had a few guys who were saying, 141 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: it's really interesting because Satanism is that what we're seeing. 142 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: It just keeps popping up. That's what the next thing 143 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: is that we'll be fighting because they're trying to they're 144 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: trying to see what the next culture war would be. 145 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: And as you know, there's been wars culture wars all 146 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: across the United States. When it comes to a lot 147 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: of these things like transgender in elementary schools, books that 148 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 1: pornography books and elementary schools, Satanism is like a whole 149 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: new level. I mean, I would have thought it would 150 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: have taken a while to get there, but it seems 151 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: like this has all gone pretty quickly from I would 152 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: say the beginning of Donald Trump's presidency to now. There's 153 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: been a massive push for some of this. I mean, 154 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: really evil evil toward our children. 155 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 2: Been and I hate to see this. It's been in 156 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 2: some ways, it's kind of self inflicted. And I don't 157 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 2: mean that in a bad sense. I mean that in 158 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 2: the sense that as we look at polling, and we 159 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 2: do a lot of polling work, we've seen that, for example, 160 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 2: those that profess Christianity have the percentage of those who 161 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 2: professor Christianity has dropped twenty points in the last twenty years. 162 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 2: So we've created a vacuum where that we're taking more 163 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 2: and more traditional faith out. We're removing that, which leads 164 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 2: to much open more open space for things to come 165 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 2: in to fill that. And we see that particularly as 166 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:34,559 Speaker 2: we do polling with younger generations, they're more and more 167 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,679 Speaker 2: secular minded. And then we saw polling even last year 168 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 2: where the seventy seven percent of professing Christians self censor. 169 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 2: They don't want to talk about their faith for fear 170 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 2: of being attacked because it's just unpopular with academics and 171 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 2: with so many mainstream kind of institutions. And so having 172 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 2: gone silent, you have a generation that's being raised without 173 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 2: much knowledge of faith at all, and they're open for 174 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 2: spiritual things, that's for sure. See that in Poland and 175 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 2: Satanism is something that is very appealing. So we see 176 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:07,199 Speaker 2: a lot of young people particularly move in that direction 177 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 2: because there's almost like no free market competition. The other side. 178 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 2: We've kind of gone silent on this, which is not 179 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 2: a healthy thing for us to do. 180 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: And so then I say this a lot. At the 181 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: beginning of my race for governor, I met one of 182 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 1: the first people I met with I simply in the conversation, 183 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: she was asking me, well, how did you make this decision? 184 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 1: And at one point in the conversation, I said, my 185 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: husband and I prayed about it, and that was really 186 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:35,439 Speaker 1: all I said that was faith based in the conversation, 187 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: and at the end, when I was finished talking, she 188 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 1: looked at me and she said, you will never win 189 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: over the millennials if you speak like that. For my 190 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: best advice to you, and I can't support you because 191 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,319 Speaker 1: of this, but my best advice to you is change 192 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: what you say about faith. And I said, what do 193 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: you mean and she said, you just sat in front 194 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 1: of me and said that your husband and you prayed 195 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 1: about this. And I said yeah. And she said, if 196 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 1: you talk about Christianity in front of this younger generation, 197 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: no one will vote for you. And I mean that 198 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: was kind of a consistent theme was as I went 199 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: across and these were these were conservatives, supposedly you know, 200 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: they were saying, shut your mouth, don't bring up religion. 201 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's a growing rise Matra out there. But 202 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 2: we're actually finding that disproved by Poland. We've seen that 203 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 2: right now. The younger generation will respond to faith, but 204 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 2: it has to be on a one on one discussion 205 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 2: with people. They're the first generation one hundred and twenty 206 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 2: years of Poland that we've seen there's actually open to 207 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,439 Speaker 2: mentoring and they don't care what generation is, as long 208 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 2: as you're sincere and we'll talk with them and we'll 209 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 2: sit down with them and spend time with them. They're 210 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 2: open to faith and they just need that one on 211 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 2: one kind of relationship. And so it. 212 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 1: Really, really so how do we do that? Because I 213 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 1: feel like that's I mean, that's another thing that we've 214 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 1: been talking about is as we've seen what's happened in 215 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: election size, and we've seen what's happened with conservatives, it 216 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: seems like that foundation has been lost over the years, 217 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 1: in that groundwork that is not political whatsoever. I would 218 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: say that that basis that should be a part of 219 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: family life has dwindled and deteriorated and in many cases 220 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: is no longer there. So and because you don't have 221 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 1: it in schools, I mean, they've fought very hard to 222 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: make sure that you're being tested on reading, in math. 223 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 1: History in some cases doesn't even exist in some public schools, 224 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: and if it does, it's very high level breezing through things. 225 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: So how if they don't have that history, if they 226 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: aren't getting that at home? I mean, the other side 227 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: has been very good at keeping that faith story away 228 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: from people in the United States. So if they don't 229 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 1: have that, how do we start to win back this war? 230 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 1: How do we start to reach out to people because 231 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 1: I know, I mean, we've got a lot of listeners 232 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 1: out there and they're saying, how did this happen? But 233 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:58,559 Speaker 1: really you are making a good point. It had happened 234 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: with us who said, I don't want to rock the boat, 235 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 1: so I'm not going to say anything. 236 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 2: We've gone silent on it. And I see this very 237 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 2: much as self inflicted wound. But I'm also seeing across 238 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 2: the country where this is changing, and it's changing even 239 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 2: in faith communities. There's a particular church I'm thinking of 240 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 2: in Texas about twenty five thousand, and they are largely 241 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 2: gen Z and millennial and they are not squishy at all. 242 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 2: They're very strong, but they there's been people take the 243 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 2: time to explain and get the apologetics of faith, and 244 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 2: I think a lot of times we've not taken the 245 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 2: time to actually been sincere about it. We have more 246 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 2: sound bites on faith, and we have more sound bites 247 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 2: on Christ or whatever, and there's some more serious discussions. 248 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 2: And this is an interesting thing that we've seen in 249 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 2: particularly with the gen Z, some with the millennials, but 250 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:48,959 Speaker 2: they want more than sound bites. They react to sound bites. 251 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 2: We see that unfortunately politically other things. But if you 252 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 2: get pass sound bites, they really respond well. And so 253 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 2: we're seeing that there's starting to be some churches that 254 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 2: are taking that on, a lot of individuals are taking 255 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 2: that on. We're seeing a lot of faith groups really 256 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 2: kind of increase now that are focused on youth and 257 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 2: doing some good thing. But we've gotten ourselves really behind 258 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 2: the curve on this and we're fighting an uphill battle. 259 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 2: And I think the other thing, and you mentioned schools, 260 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,839 Speaker 2: we're not teaching it. One of the things we deal with, Tutor. 261 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:21,359 Speaker 2: We have a network of about one thousand state legislators, 262 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:23,959 Speaker 2: So we have legislators we deal with all fifty states 263 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 2: on state legislation, everything from ESG to UCC to faith issues, etc. 264 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:33,479 Speaker 2: And I'm struck by the fact that, for example, Minnesota 265 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 2: last year passed their new history standards and from the 266 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 2: next ten years in Minnesota they have said they will 267 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 2: not teach the American Revolution, or the Civil War, or 268 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:45,079 Speaker 2: World War One, or World War two, or the Holocaust. 269 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 2: They've said that that has to go out of all 270 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 2: of their texts and all their curriculum for the next 271 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:52,839 Speaker 2: ten years. So we deliberately are cutting people off from 272 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 2: heritage and history, which means individuals have to take more 273 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 2: responsibil to step up. But we're also seeing a lot 274 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 2: of good things start to happen media wise with some 275 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 2: of the programs they are popping up. They're doing really 276 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 2: well in history. So I think we're kind of behind 277 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 2: the curve, but I do see really good things happening. 278 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 2: But it's going to take every single individual. I go 279 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 2: back to song Assalmon eight thirteen, where the scripture says, 280 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 2: people listen to you so speak. We just got to 281 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 2: test with people on our own networks. And the thing 282 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 2: out point to is, look how well we're doing winning 283 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 2: school boards at local elections where you get just in 284 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 2: the community. Those aren't nationally publicized. We're cleaning house across 285 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 2: the nation in a great way with school boards. Nobody 286 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 2: knows about it, but we're really seeing good things. And 287 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 2: that's the same way we'll get those kids back as 288 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 2: we have to do a community by community. Just forget 289 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 2: the national status, just work on those that are around 290 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 2: you and dedicate yourself to really making a difference, and 291 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 2: you can. 292 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on 293 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 1: a Tutor Dixon podcast. Well, I got us off track 294 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: from fourth of July. So, but I think that was 295 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: kind of an important lead up to the story of 296 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: the Fourth because I don't think that a lot of 297 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: people understand that this wasn't just a bunch of guys 298 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: that got into a room one day and said, let's 299 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 1: sign this declaration of independence and move on. I'm fortunate 300 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: that my daughter, my daughter was in eighth grade last 301 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: year and we just went on the DC trip and 302 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: then we went through all of the history and they 303 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 1: got to see but they also went to Gettysburg and 304 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: saw where the Civil War was fought, and so they 305 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: saw what it was to fight there, but they didn't 306 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: hear a whole lot about the very beginnings. So I 307 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: think that's something that we know when we see some 308 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: of these when you go to some of these old 309 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,119 Speaker 1: sites of war and you go, gosh, can you imagine 310 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: now our eighteen year old And often when they tell 311 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 1: you these stories, it's like, well, some of these kids 312 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 1: were sixteen, some of these kids were thirteen, and it's 313 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: just shocking to think that they were willing to do 314 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: anything for freedom. And there was a reason because they 315 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: understood what tyranny was. And so there's a lot of 316 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: faith that goes into deciding to form your own country 317 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: and declare your independence. So if you could just walk 318 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: us through a little bit about how did that start? 319 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: How do you bring all these people together that really 320 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: they had ownership over their states and it was a 321 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 1: coming together of people and minds to decide how the 322 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 1: best possible government could be formed. 323 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is such a cool thing to look back 324 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 2: at that, And I think one of the great examples 325 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 2: of seeing how this worked was old man John Adams. 326 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 2: Forty two years after he signed the Declaration of Independence, 327 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 2: a young man came to him said, I'm writing a 328 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 2: history book on the United States. I wasn't there. I 329 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 2: love what America has become. We all love the liberties 330 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 2: we have, but you were there. Tell me how this happened. 331 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 2: And he asked him, He said, where did you get 332 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 2: your ideas? Because these are ideas that weren't in other 333 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 2: countries at the time. And it's striking that John Adams 334 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 2: himself said that, well, we got these ideas from the 335 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 2: reverend doctors Amuel Cooper, the reverend doctor Jonathan Mayhew, the 336 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 2: Reverend George Whitfield, the Reverend Charles He starts listing all 337 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 2: these pastors and with those hundred and sixty thousand documents 338 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 2: we have, we have so many sermons from that founding era, 339 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 2: but it is striking to see how faith was so 340 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 2: intimately involved. Even as you look at the early stages 341 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 2: as we lead up to the American independence. You know, 342 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 2: the first battle is Lexington, the second battle's Concord, The 343 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 2: third battles Road to Boston. The fourth battles Bunker Hill. 344 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 2: And the Battle of Lexington was when the Reverend Jonas 345 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 2: Clark took sixty seventy three guys out of his church 346 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 2: and went out and faced the seven hundred British. The 347 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 2: second battle was when Reverend William Emerson took four hundred 348 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 2: guys out of his church and went out and faced 349 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 2: the British. The third battle, the Road to Boston, was 350 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 2: forty five hundred Americans facing seven hundred British. But the 351 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 2: Americans were led by the Reverend Benjamin Boss, the reverend 352 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 2: Paston Phillips. And when you get to Bunker Hills, Reverend 353 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 2: Joseph Willard who grabbed two companies out of his church 354 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:56,679 Speaker 2: and said, okay, guys, let's go join the other churches 355 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 2: across town. We're finding for our freedom. So there's a 356 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 2: very strong on faith element all the way through. But 357 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 2: I think that a lot of what we missed today 358 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 2: the way we teach history today, it's no longer biographical. 359 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:11,400 Speaker 2: We used to teach the stories about history, and as 360 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:13,439 Speaker 2: you look in the Bible, you know, nobody knows what 361 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 2: your David killed Goliath because the date wasn't important. Was 362 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 2: important was the story. You got the story of David 363 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 2: and Goliath. And that's really kind of what we've moved 364 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 2: away from an American history since progressives took it in 365 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 2: the nineteen twenties. We've gotten into dates, names, and places, 366 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 2: and we don't no longer tell the stories. Who knows 367 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 2: the story of an eight year old John Quincy Adams 368 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 2: grabbing his musket and going out with the Massachusetts minute 369 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 2: Men in the early stages of the war. You know, 370 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 2: nobody knows about an eight year old kid doing that. 371 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:46,479 Speaker 2: And those are the stories that are so cool and 372 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 2: so much a part of what happens. Even the fifty 373 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 2: six guys who signed the declaration, I was a Duke 374 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 2: University law school and put that picture that side us up. 375 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 2: I said, who can you call by name? And they 376 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 2: could only get two guys by name out of fifty six, 377 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 2: and they all have phenomenal stories, and we just have 378 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:06,640 Speaker 2: to reacquaint ourselves with how blessed we've been as a nation, 379 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 2: how terrific our history is, who these great heroes were, 380 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 2: and the fourth of July is we a really good 381 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:14,120 Speaker 2: time to do that. Go back and look at them. 382 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 2: Look up three guys you've never heard of to sign 383 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 2: the declaration. Read their stories, Read about their family, read 384 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 2: about their faith, read about their sacrifice. You know, ten 385 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:25,199 Speaker 2: of these guys who signed the declaration never lived to 386 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 2: see the freedom they wanted us to have. Seventeen of 387 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 2: them lost everything they own, three have lost their kids. 388 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 2: It's tragic stories and it's victorious stories, but their stories. 389 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 2: And I think that's what we really have to get 390 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 2: back to, is storytelling. 391 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 1: Well. In George Washington's story alone, I think a lot 392 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 1: of people think of the President of the United States 393 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: like they think of the President of the United States now, 394 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 1: But this was really I mean, he sacrificed, he left 395 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: his home for I think what he didn't see his 396 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: wife for eight years when they were at war, and 397 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 1: then comes home and they said, well, we need you 398 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: to serve again, and we need you to go to 399 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: be the president. And he was the one that said, 400 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: I'm not going to do it forever. We don't. Well, 401 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 1: they wanted him to be a king, didn't they. 402 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 2: They would have taken him as a king. And he 403 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,880 Speaker 2: was going to retire after one term and we were 404 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 2: looking at a war with France, and so he stayed 405 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 2: on for one more term, but he retired after two 406 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,400 Speaker 2: and he set the example, and that was a voluntary 407 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 2: example that was followed by every president until FDR with 408 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:27,120 Speaker 2: World War Two. And then FDR's vice president, Harry Truman 409 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 2: is the guy who got the Constitutional Amendment passed to say, hey, 410 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 2: Washington didn't too, we should all do it in too 411 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 2: or no more. And so Washington really set that example. 412 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 2: And it's interesting that he is literally considered the father 413 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:43,400 Speaker 2: of his country even while he was still alive. I mean, 414 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 2: he's the only president to be chosen one hundred percent, unanimously, 415 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 2: not a single dissenting vote in the electoral College in 416 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 2: either of his two elections. He really was esteemed in 417 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 2: his day. I calculated recently that was George Washington. More 418 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 2: than forty percent of the nations across the world have 419 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 2: erected some type of a memorial to George Washington. And 420 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 2: to try to find any leader from another nation that's 421 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 2: honored in a nation that's not their own, that's just 422 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 2: pretty unusual. And Washington was one of those guys that 423 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 2: was a global influence and he was loved by Americans. 424 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 2: And man did he sacrificed. As you mentioned, you know, 425 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 2: he kept going back in when he wanted to retire, 426 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 2: he wanted to go back to Mount Vernon, and he 427 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:27,399 Speaker 2: did this at his own expense. He actually late in 428 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 2: life asked Congress reimbursing for some of these expenses, but 429 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 2: he did most of this out of his own pocket. 430 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 2: And we know that during the eight years of the 431 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 2: revolution he wrote so many letters that is estimated he 432 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 2: got no more than three to four hours of sleep 433 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 2: a night, and all the communications he was doing, all 434 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 2: the work he was doing. He just sacrificed everything for 435 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:50,399 Speaker 2: his country. And he was just a great, great leader 436 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 2: to start with. And you can't have a better example 437 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 2: on what we have with George Washington. 438 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 1: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on 439 00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 1: the Tutor Dixon podcast. What's interesting, I think is when 440 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 1: you go to the capital the dome is painted and 441 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: George Washington is up there, and he appears to be 442 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,400 Speaker 1: almost saintly up there in the dome of the Capitol. 443 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 1: And when they're talking to you about it, they say, 444 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: it's funny because he probably wouldn't like that image of himself. 445 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. He was a very, very humble guy. 446 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 2: It's interesting that after his part in the French and 447 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 2: Indian War, and he came back and was elected to 448 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 2: the state legislature and he was ready to get down 449 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 2: the business. They opened the legislature with a commendation form 450 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,880 Speaker 2: for all he had done in the leadership, and he 451 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 2: was so floored he couldn't even speak. And the Speaker 452 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 2: of the House said, well, mister Washington, He said, your 453 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 2: valor is matched only by your modesty. And that's the 454 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:52,439 Speaker 2: way Washington was. He didn't talk about himself. He didn't 455 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 2: like getting a claim, he didn't like being recognized. He 456 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 2: finally understood late in life that people thought highly of 457 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 2: him and blessed his heart and Mount Vernon, because back 458 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,439 Speaker 2: in that day you believe in hospitality. He entertained anyone 459 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 2: that came to his house. And there are times when 460 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 2: forty fifty different strangers show up out of different states 461 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 2: just to say they could spend the night at George 462 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 2: Washington's house. And the latter part of his life, he 463 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 2: was so accommodating, so hospitable, and it would drive us crazy. 464 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,919 Speaker 2: He'd have to deal with what he dealt with. But 465 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 2: he was just that kind of a deep character individual, 466 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 2: very pious man, very very astute man in so many areas, 467 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 2: and he's just a great great what I want to say, 468 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 2: he's a great model. That's what I want to say. 469 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,640 Speaker 2: He's a great model for us. And it's just unfortunate 470 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:42,920 Speaker 2: that we don't know that much about him today. He's 471 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,120 Speaker 2: just again gotten away from us. We just don't teach 472 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 2: Washington much, and when we do, we kind of oversimplify him. 473 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 2: But he's a great biography people should read. 474 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 1: Why is it that we don't do more when we 475 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: talk about these folks? I mean, they really he did. 476 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 1: He gave everything, but it was really about the future. 477 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 1: It was about taking care of future generations. Because I 478 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 1: think that he must have known that this was not 479 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: going to really be his life for very long. This 480 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 1: was going to be other people's lives. This was setting 481 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 1: a standard for eternity or however long we have here 482 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 1: on earth. And then obviously his faith was very important. 483 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: But you're right, he is a model. So why and 484 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:29,439 Speaker 1: so many of these men are models of how to 485 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 1: create greatness, as much greatness as we can see in 486 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 1: this world, and yet we avoid talking about that with 487 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 1: our students, with our young people. It's the ultimate opportunity 488 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 1: and it is the ultimate sacrifice so that others can have. 489 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: I mean, you would think that this would be the 490 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: best story you can tell because he gave up everything 491 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: for others. It was not for him. 492 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 2: It was not for him, and it was that way 493 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 2: with so many of them. And it's interesting that, you know, 494 00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 2: as we kind of look at history from a thirty 495 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 2: thousand with view, because we connected the culture and legislation 496 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 2: and everything else, we have had a steady attack on 497 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 2: the American founding for forty to fifty years, and so 498 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,679 Speaker 2: you know, these guys are all a bunch of slave owners. 499 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 2: Wait a minute, time out. We passed by eighteen o 500 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 2: four every northern state had banned slavery. That's the founding 501 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 2: fathers from those states had banned slavery. The first abolition 502 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,159 Speaker 2: society started in America was started by Signer of the Declaration, 503 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,400 Speaker 2: Benjamin Russia was led by a signer of the Declaration, 504 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 2: Ben Franklin. And you know, we just go through and yes, 505 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 2: there were some pro slavery founding fathers, but the overwhelming 506 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 2: majority were not. And they talked about how this slavery 507 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 2: had been posed on them by Great Britain and the 508 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,919 Speaker 2: Declaration of Independence. One of the grievances talked about the 509 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 2: fact that several of our colonies have already passed anti 510 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 2: slavery laws seventeen seventy six, and King George the Third 511 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 2: vetoed our anti slavery laws in Connecticut and the Massachusetts 512 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 2: and in Rhode Island and all these other states. And 513 00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 2: we don't do that. We say, oh, no, they're all 514 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 2: a bunch of the all a bunch of racist They're 515 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 2: all a bunch of slaves. Oh they're all a bunch 516 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 2: of atheists and agnostics and deists. 517 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:05,400 Speaker 1: Wait a minute. 518 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 2: Twenty nine of the signers and declaration graduated from Bible 519 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,640 Speaker 2: schools and seminaries. How can they all be atheists, agnostics 520 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,479 Speaker 2: and DEAs. And you know, the first, the first family 521 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 2: Bible ever done was by a signer of the Declaration, 522 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 2: John Witherspoon, and the first mass produced Bible ever done 523 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,880 Speaker 2: was by signer of the Declaration, Benjamin Rush. Benjamin Rush 524 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 2: started the first Bible society in America, the Sunday School Movement, 525 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,360 Speaker 2: and you just go through their faith. And so what's 526 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 2: happened is because we know so little of the details, 527 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 2: we have been fed a lot of overview, you know, 528 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 2: Washington or any of the Founding fathers, or they were 529 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 2: all a bunch of immoral or whatever, and we don't 530 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 2: have the specificity. So that's that's where going back to 531 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 2: the stories really becomes very very interesting, very intriguing the 532 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 2: story of Washington and what I recommend for folks because 533 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,880 Speaker 2: we can now with books dot Google dot com, all 534 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 2: the public domain books are in now online and you 535 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 2: can search all those public domain books. So you know, 536 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 2: find a founding father that dies like a Benjamin Rush 537 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,439 Speaker 2: in eighteen thirteen, looking eighteen fourteen for the biographies that 538 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,239 Speaker 2: were done about him, because that's by people who knew them, 539 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,360 Speaker 2: people who are around him. When Washington dies in seventeen 540 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 2: ninety nine, lived for biographies done in eighteen hundred, because 541 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 2: the people who wrote them were the people who knew 542 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 2: them and who worked with them, and who fought with them, 543 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 2: et cetera. And you know John Quincy, Adams great President, 544 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 2: dies in eighteen forty eight. Read the biography he's written 545 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 2: in eighteen forty nine by the Mayor of Boston, Josiah Quincy, 546 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 2: and by Seward, who is a great ambasador. It's just 547 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,679 Speaker 2: such a different view of history from what we get 548 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 2: today because they didn't have agendas back then. They weren't 549 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 2: trying to create a new nation. They weren't trying to 550 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 2: make it secular or make it crt or whatever it is. 551 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 1: And so they were or teach the sixteen nineteen projects. 552 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 2: Sixteen nineteen and by the way, man, is that crazy? 553 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 2: Sixteen nineteen, that's not when slavery came to Virginia. The 554 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 2: first first slavery in Virginia was sixteen fifty three when 555 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 2: a black man, Anthony Johnson, sued own another black man, 556 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 2: John Kaser in the court said he could do it. 557 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 2: Sixteen fifty three is when slavery begins Virginia with a 558 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,880 Speaker 2: black man suing to own another black man. Haven't heard that, 559 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 2: but say that's where sixteen nineteen project just gives you 560 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 2: a narrative and doesn't give you details, and when you 561 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 2: go back to historical details, the story is so different. 562 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,159 Speaker 2: And so that's what every American can do, is, you know, 563 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 2: dedicate myself to find the truth. It is out there. 564 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,439 Speaker 2: It's not that hard to find. I'm not going to 565 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 2: follow the narratives until I've proven it for myself. Go 566 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 2: back and verify everything, and that'll give you a whole 567 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 2: different view of America, which is really wholesome, really really enlightening. 568 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 1: Quite frankly, I think as parents it's so powerful. That's 569 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: such a good piece of advice to do that with 570 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 1: your kids. Because when we came back from the trip 571 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 1: to Washington, d C. You always wonder what did they 572 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 1: get out of it? Did they really get enough out 573 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: of it? And one of the moms said to I 574 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: was chaperoning, and she said, thank you so much. My 575 00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 1: son came up to me and he said, Mom, you 576 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 1: would never believe what these young men did to make 577 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 1: sure that we could have the life we have. And 578 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: I mean that to me as it brings a tear 579 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 1: to my I'm like, oh my gosh, they got it. 580 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 1: They got to see it, they actually saw it and 581 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 1: lived it, and they learned it. But there's so much. 582 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 1: I mean, they still learned the overview. It was still 583 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 1: you know, we're still rushing through in three days, so 584 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 1: there's still so much to teach our kids. And if 585 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 1: you feel like your kids are being robbed at school, 586 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 1: whether it's a public school or private school, you just 587 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 1: don't think they're getting enough. This is great information. Do 588 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 1: it yourself. And I know everybody goes, gosh, that's so 589 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 1: time consuming, but there's no better time spent than teaching 590 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 1: your kids the value of appreciating what you have and 591 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 1: passing that on. And I think that's the biggest thing 592 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 1: here is to appreciate because right now there's so many 593 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 1: people telling our kids don't appreciate this, feel shame, feel 594 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 1: shame for what this country is. And I think that 595 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 1: is the message going into the fourth of July. This 596 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 1: is a we are fortunate to have this country, or 597 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 1: we are fortunate to have these men who stood up 598 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 1: when no one else would. We could very easily just 599 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 1: be colonies right now, and we are a very special 600 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 1: place in the world because of what these founding fathers 601 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:18,959 Speaker 1: were willing to do and sacrifice for us. 602 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 2: You know, it's significant. I think Americans, perhaps more than 603 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 2: any of the nation. We take our blessings for granted 604 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 2: because we've had them for so long. There's fifty eight 605 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 2: hundred years of recorded history. In that period of time, 606 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 2: there's been thousands of nations, hundreds of constitutions. Cornell University 607 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 2: Law School said, what's the average length of a constitution 608 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 2: in the history of the world, in the answer of 609 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 2: seventeen years. Well, last September seventeenth, we celebrated two hundred 610 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 2: and thirty five years. We just take our stability for granted. 611 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:49,959 Speaker 2: We just assume that's the way nations are and it's not. 612 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 2: And our four percent of the world's population we produce 613 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 2: literally ninety six percent of the world's inventions. Our four 614 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 2: percent of the world's population, we produced twenty five percent 615 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 2: of the world's gross domestic product. We are so stink 616 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 2: and blessed, and we just don't recognize it because we 617 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 2: hear people criticize in the country all the time, and 618 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 2: they don't point out the good. They point out the 619 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 2: bad and the ugly. And that's deconstruction that really started 620 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 2: the nineteen eighties and history books with Howard Zenn and others. 621 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 2: You're supposed to tell the good, the bad, the ugly, 622 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 2: the Bible does that, but we're not telling the We're 623 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 2: just telling the bad and the ugly. And you know, 624 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 2: fourth of July, this is a real patriotic time, and 625 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 2: I love patriotism. Benjamin Rush, he's a signer of the Declaration. 626 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 2: John Adams said, he's one of the three most notable 627 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 2: founding fathers. John Adams said, it's George Washington, Ben Franklin, 628 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 2: Benjamin Rush, and who knows Benjamin Rush today. But Benjamin 629 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 2: Rush says that a love of your country is both 630 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 2: a social and a religious duty. And it goes back 631 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 2: to if you love something, your family, or whatever it is, 632 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:57,719 Speaker 2: you're going to seek the best for it. You're going 633 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 2: to sacrifice for it. You're going to do every thing 634 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 2: you can to make sure that it's really good. And 635 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 2: the polling we got from two weeks ago shows that 636 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 2: right now, seventy three percent of the older generation's patriotic, 637 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 2: only sixteen percent of the younger generations patriotic. We have 638 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 2: not taught them to love their country. We've taught them 639 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 2: to hate it. And there is no future for the 640 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 2: country if you don't love it, because you'll want to 641 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 2: get rid of it, You'll want something different because it's 642 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 2: not fundamentally good. And so this Fourth of July is 643 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 2: a really good time to go back and teach patriotism, 644 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 2: why it's proper to love America, what there is about America, 645 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 2: to love the wonderful things that have happened no nation 646 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 2: in the world. And this slavery passed a band on 647 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 2: the slave trade faster than America did. I mean, it's 648 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 2: just amazing the things. Here's a good one for CRT folks. 649 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 2: America elected his first black official in sixteen forty one, 650 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 2: Matthias the Seuzd was elected to the Legislature of Maryland 651 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 2: by white community. We had more than a thousand black 652 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 2: officials elected in America by eighteen seventy six. Great Britain 653 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 2: did not elect its first black official till nineteen eighty seven. 654 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 2: Russia did not elect its first black official until twenty ten, 655 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 2: and we have one thousand by eighteen seventy six. And 656 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 2: somehow we're the worst nation in the world. We need 657 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 2: to go back and recover the good things and know that. 658 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 2: Let's study the bad and ugly, absolutely that's truth, but 659 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 2: let's study the good too. And fourth of July is 660 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 2: going to be a good time to rekindle patriotism, go 661 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 2: back and look at the wonderful things our two hundred 662 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 2: and thirty seven years under the same document two hundred 663 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 2: and thirty five are in the same document two hundred 664 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 2: and forty seven under the Declaration of Independence, And these 665 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 2: are big things that we should look at and be 666 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 2: grateful for. 667 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 1: Well, who knew we were going to get homework on 668 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 1: the fourth of July. But I think this is fantastic 669 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 1: because that poll you just put out there that you 670 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 1: said something like seventy percent in the older generation is 671 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 1: patriotic and only sixteen in the younger That means those 672 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 1: of us in that older generation need to be doing 673 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 1: our work with the younger generation, and this is our opportunity. 674 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 1: I love your idea about finding biographies that were written 675 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,319 Speaker 1: just a year or two after these folks died and 676 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 1: knowing what it was really like then hearing from the 677 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 1: people that really knew them. I love that. I think 678 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 1: that's a great send off for our listeners today, is 679 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 1: to go out there and find those and share the 680 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,840 Speaker 1: good stories from history. Talk about all of history, but 681 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 1: make sure people know why we are the greatest country 682 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,279 Speaker 1: in the world and how it happened before I let 683 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 1: you go, David, quickly tell them a little bit about 684 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 1: wall builders wall builders and how they can learn more 685 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 1: about it, because I just think what you guys do 686 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:42,239 Speaker 1: is so amazing, the history, the pieces of history that 687 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,840 Speaker 1: you own it and over one hundred thousand pieces. 688 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 2: Yes, ma'am, And it's fun going back to the originals. 689 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 2: For sure. Wall builders dot Com we take the name 690 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,360 Speaker 2: of wall builders from the Bible Book of NEAMAI about 691 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 2: rebuilding things that have been torn down, so rebuilding the walls 692 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 2: rusal and back on that story, rebuilding America's constitutional and 693 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:03,840 Speaker 2: more religious foundations. It's kind of our hope, our wish, 694 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 2: and so we produced a lot of products, a lot 695 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 2: of visual things, a lot of written things. We just 696 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,400 Speaker 2: did a book, The American Story that goes from Columbus 697 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 2: up through the end of slavery, and it looks at 698 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 2: heroes and the good things and the bad and ugly 699 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 2: about America. But we've got lots of resources the website. 700 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 2: We have thousands of those original documents up where people 701 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 2: can see them, can access them, can use them in 702 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 2: their schools or wherever they go. So we try to 703 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 2: provide resources we hope to have before long all one 704 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 2: hundred and sixty thousand pieces of that history of where 705 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,400 Speaker 2: the people can see for themselves what America actually is 706 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 2: and what America actually did. But Wellbuilders dot com is 707 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:42,360 Speaker 2: a good place to go for a lot of resources, 708 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,399 Speaker 2: and The American Story is a good book to start with. 709 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,760 Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much. I just I love hearing 710 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 1: what you have to say. I always learn something when 711 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 1: I'm talking to you, David Barton. We appreciate having you on. 712 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,320 Speaker 2: Thanks Tudor, appreciate all you do. God bless you, Maam. 713 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,440 Speaker 1: Thank you, God bless you, and thank you all for 714 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 1: joining us on the Tutor Dixon Podcast. As always, for 715 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 1: this episode and others, go to tutordisonpodcast dot com. You 716 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,359 Speaker 1: can subscribe right there or check out the iHeartRadio app, 717 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,799 Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts, and make 718 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 1: sure you join us the next time on the Tutor 719 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:15,399 Speaker 1: Dixon Podcast. Have a blessed day and happy fourth of July.