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Speaker 1: Um is controller different than controllers? I believe it's the

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Speaker 1: same thing, roughly, but perhaps lanh chen knows you know

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Speaker 1: him from the Armstrong and Getty Show. Lani chenned David

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Speaker 1: and Diane Stuffy fellow, an American public policy Studies at

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Speaker 1: the Uver Institution, Director Domestic Policy Studies at Stanford University,

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Speaker 1: frequent guest on cable TV, and now the officially announced

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Speaker 1: how are you? It is great to be with you, gentlemen.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Can you answer the initial question of his

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Speaker 1: controller and control are the same thing? And what is

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Speaker 1: one of them? Yeah? So in California we call it

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Speaker 1: a controller. In New York City they call it a comptroller.

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Speaker 1: In different states they call it different things. I think

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Speaker 1: the concept is basically the same, which is, you need

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Speaker 1: a corporate context that the controller is responsible for essentially

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Speaker 1: auditing outbound spending, is responsible for accounting for that. Um,

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Speaker 1: we can get into this a little bit more. The

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Speaker 1: California State controllers powers and responsibilities are actually even broader

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Speaker 1: it's about independence, it's about prudence, and those are all

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Speaker 1: and that's why I'm really excited to take this step

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Speaker 1: an unrelated question, just briefly, Do we get to talk

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Speaker 1: certainly in issues relating to California. You know, I'm I'd

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Speaker 1: in this office. So fair enough, so, would the controller

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Speaker 1: bad idea, or like, like, what what issues might regular

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Speaker 1: voters in California be aware of the controllers sticking their

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Speaker 1: we have a really interesting structure for accountability in California.

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Speaker 1: We have someone called the California State Auditor, who is

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Speaker 1: not actually the controller. The auditor can investigate items at

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Speaker 1: So you may ask, well, if you've got an auditor,

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Speaker 1: the controller has independent authority to audit any state or

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Speaker 1: And the controller can certainly say, listen, here's what's happening.

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Speaker 1: But fundamentally it's then up to the legislature and the

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Speaker 1: well that this this is gonna be in trouble with that.

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Speaker 1: And the point I'm trying to make is, you know,

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Speaker 1: Mitt Romney with a cash coming out of his pockets

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Speaker 1: and so point, Oh, yeah, it'll be stupid because you can't.

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Speaker 1: You can't attack him on the issues. It's got to

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Speaker 1: be stupid, right, Yeah. You would think as much as

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Speaker 1: we pay in taxes that you would pay attention to

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Speaker 1: you would think. But we don't. It's got to be

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Speaker 1: the quality of life stuff. Because, as I've made clear

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Speaker 1: California has been to narrow the tax base as much

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Speaker 1: as possible, to really soak the high earners and and

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Speaker 1: then leave everybody else more or less in the clear.

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Speaker 1: Now we got granted their gas taxes and fees and

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Speaker 1: the rest of it, and working class people do pay,

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Speaker 1: but they don't pay nearly a proportional amount in California.

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Speaker 1: So counting on people to be desperate for their tax

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Speaker 1: dollars to be spent wisely. That will never work in California.

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Speaker 1: And that was the idea from the beginning. I'm telling you,

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