WEBVTT - #377 Packers Unscripted: High-stakes rivalry 0:00:00.800 --> 0:00:20.320 Hi everyone, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com. 0:00:20.320 --> 0:00:22.880 I am Mike Spofford. He is the one and only 0:00:22.920 --> 0:00:25.920 West Hodgwitz. Were coming to you here from our studios 0:00:25.960 --> 0:00:29.640 at lambeau Field West. Were another day closer to Packers 0:00:29.680 --> 0:00:34.240 Bears Part two for It'll be Sunday, a noon Central 0:00:34.240 --> 0:00:38.120 Time kickoff at Soldier Field. And I know we mentioned 0:00:38.120 --> 0:00:41.120 earlier this week how the Bears are one victory away 0:00:41.120 --> 0:00:45.080 from clinching their first NFC North title since two thousand 0:00:45.080 --> 0:00:48.360 and ten. One thing I didn't realize at the time 0:00:48.520 --> 0:00:50.400 earlier this week, and now it's come up in some 0:00:50.520 --> 0:00:54.400 different avenues throughout the course of this week, is that 0:00:55.080 --> 0:00:57.960 the Packers visit to the Bears in the regular season. 0:00:58.040 --> 0:01:01.320 In two thousand and ten, two sold Your Field was 0:01:01.400 --> 0:01:05.720 the last time the Packers lost down there. For some 0:01:05.800 --> 0:01:08.600 reason that hadn't even occurred to me until you start 0:01:08.640 --> 0:01:11.040 looking at the stats and hearing what people are talking about, 0:01:11.040 --> 0:01:14.959 and it's like, wow, the Packers have won seven regular 0:01:14.959 --> 0:01:17.920 season games in a row, eight in a row in all, 0:01:17.959 --> 0:01:22.800 including the NFC Championship game. It's really quite the streak 0:01:22.920 --> 0:01:25.720 between these two rivals, and not something I was even 0:01:25.800 --> 0:01:28.319 totally aware of pretty surprising, to be honest with you, 0:01:28.400 --> 0:01:30.080 And I was actually going to open the show if 0:01:30.080 --> 0:01:32.039 you wouldn't have let in that way by asking you, 0:01:32.080 --> 0:01:34.840 as a historian of this thing, if you realize that, 0:01:34.959 --> 0:01:37.560 because usually I pay attention to that kind of stuff, 0:01:37.560 --> 0:01:39.920 and this one went past me. Someone else had mentioned it, 0:01:39.959 --> 0:01:41.720 and then I looked it up and I was like wow. 0:01:41.840 --> 0:01:43.600 So I went and when I was writing the story 0:01:43.640 --> 0:01:46.160 for Packers dot Com, I went through each one of 0:01:46.200 --> 0:01:49.240 those seasons on NFL G S I S. And it's 0:01:49.240 --> 0:01:52.080 funny how I recalled every one, single one of those games, 0:01:52.080 --> 0:01:56.400 maybe besides two thousand eleven, but I remember twelve. Remember well, 0:01:56.480 --> 0:02:01.040 thirteen is pretty unformab and sixteen is pretty unforgettable as well, 0:02:01.120 --> 0:02:03.280 with the deep all the Jordy Nelson to set up 0:02:03.280 --> 0:02:05.880 the walk off field. And what's wild about it is 0:02:05.920 --> 0:02:09.360 I never really stitched them all together to realize that 0:02:09.440 --> 0:02:11.880 this is an eight game winning streak now dating back 0:02:11.919 --> 0:02:15.800 to that NFC Championship game in two thousand eleven, essentially 0:02:16.320 --> 0:02:18.680 that led to the Packers going to Super Bowl forty five. 0:02:19.040 --> 0:02:21.400 It's pretty incredible. And Aaron Rodgers was talking about this 0:02:21.440 --> 0:02:23.880 at his locker on Wednesday, and he said, you know, 0:02:23.880 --> 0:02:26.239 there's some stuff made out of Chicago about a Keem 0:02:26.320 --> 0:02:29.679 Hicks saying, you know, some comments about Roger's comments and 0:02:29.760 --> 0:02:32.600 Rogers like, I wasn't trying to say anything about it 0:02:32.840 --> 0:02:35.720 other than just a statement of fact that they're trying 0:02:35.760 --> 0:02:38.280 to get their ninth straight win at Soldier Fields. So 0:02:38.760 --> 0:02:41.720 it's interesting to me and that there's so many storylines 0:02:41.760 --> 0:02:44.320 that fit into this thing when you look at how 0:02:44.360 --> 0:02:47.639 the Packers have been playing uh in in the run 0:02:47.720 --> 0:02:49.720 that the Bears have got on winning I think six 0:02:49.760 --> 0:02:52.800 of the last seven. Now you have these two teams 0:02:52.880 --> 0:02:55.360 meeting and it just so happens to be stakes for 0:02:55.400 --> 0:02:58.240 each team. The Bears trying to clinch their first NFC 0:02:58.280 --> 0:03:00.920 North Tittles you said, in eight years, and the Packers 0:03:00.960 --> 0:03:03.680 trying to keep their playoff hopes alive in a suddenly 0:03:03.800 --> 0:03:08.280 wide open NFC race. It's very interesting when you break 0:03:08.320 --> 0:03:10.079 it all down and also look at the fact that 0:03:10.120 --> 0:03:12.960 the Packers are carrying in this winning streak of what 0:03:13.120 --> 0:03:15.320 this game truly means, and the fact that it's also 0:03:15.360 --> 0:03:17.799 being played in December only adds to it. Well, it's 0:03:17.840 --> 0:03:21.480 interesting because the Bears, the Bears certainly Matt Nagge and 0:03:21.560 --> 0:03:24.360 his conference called Worth Reporters yesterday said he's not paying 0:03:24.360 --> 0:03:27.160 attention and it wasn't even aware of the Packers winning 0:03:27.160 --> 0:03:29.639 streak in Chicago. I'm not sure I totally believe that, 0:03:30.200 --> 0:03:33.760 but the point being, they're not necessarily getting hung up 0:03:33.760 --> 0:03:35.880 on that kind of history. But you know, those guys 0:03:35.920 --> 0:03:39.320 in the locker room who have been here, have been 0:03:39.360 --> 0:03:43.440 in Chicago for a number of years and have faced 0:03:43.480 --> 0:03:45.560 their rival at home and not been able to come 0:03:45.560 --> 0:03:48.120 out with a victory. You know that this means something 0:03:48.160 --> 0:03:50.120 to them, on top of the fact that they can 0:03:50.160 --> 0:03:53.640 clinch their first division title. And interestingly with Chicago, if 0:03:53.680 --> 0:03:57.000 I'm not mistaken, I believe the Bears are six and 0:03:57.040 --> 0:04:00.520 one at Soldier Field this year. They're only loss at 0:04:00.520 --> 0:04:02.640 home was to the New England Patriots, and that was 0:04:02.680 --> 0:04:04.880 a game that ended on the one yard line, remember 0:04:04.880 --> 0:04:06.960 with that hail Mary and the Bears caught it, but 0:04:07.040 --> 0:04:09.520 the Patriots held him out of the end zone. So 0:04:09.880 --> 0:04:12.280 that's the only game that the Bears have lost at 0:04:12.280 --> 0:04:15.400 home this year, and quite frankly, all all four of 0:04:15.440 --> 0:04:18.000 the Bears losses this year have been sort of in 0:04:18.040 --> 0:04:21.919 that heartbreaking variety starting with Week one when Rogers brings 0:04:21.960 --> 0:04:24.599 the Packers back from twenty to nothing. I just mentioned 0:04:24.600 --> 0:04:26.520 the New England game ending on the one yard line. 0:04:26.560 --> 0:04:29.359 They lost in overtime to the New York Giants a 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:31.919 couple of weeks ago with backup quarterback Chase Daniel, but 0:04:31.920 --> 0:04:33.920 a game that the Bears had rallied at the end 0:04:33.960 --> 0:04:36.560 and had all this momentum and everything, but then couldn't 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:39.360 pull it out in o t and then I'm trying 0:04:39.400 --> 0:04:43.080 to remember it escapes me now. It was in my head. 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:47.760 The other Chicago loss this season they are the Giants, 0:04:48.120 --> 0:04:52.559 the Miami game that that that crazy back and forth 0:04:52.600 --> 0:04:54.760 game in Miami that that they ended up losing in 0:04:54.880 --> 0:04:58.120 overtime when they had multiple opportunities to win that one. 0:04:58.200 --> 0:05:01.280 So an interesting season for the Bears and one that 0:05:01.640 --> 0:05:04.880 they want to add another chapter two with with that 0:05:04.960 --> 0:05:07.400 division championship if they can beat the Packers. Yeah, and 0:05:07.440 --> 0:05:10.080 it's funny and that they've just had some absolute mail biers. 0:05:10.080 --> 0:05:11.720 When you go back to that Miami game. I remember 0:05:11.720 --> 0:05:14.120 watching that here at the office and just being in 0:05:14.200 --> 0:05:18.040 awe of everything that happened with the Kenyan Drake fumble 0:05:18.120 --> 0:05:19.880 and and then being able to come back. You know 0:05:20.279 --> 0:05:23.040 that was that was one of the wildest games. Well, 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:25.400 I mean in Miami just had that game with New England. 0:05:25.400 --> 0:05:27.800 I mean, but that Miami Chicago game was was one 0:05:27.839 --> 0:05:30.680 of the wildest football games of the season, absolutely across 0:05:30.720 --> 0:05:32.880 the board. The thing that really stands out to me 0:05:32.960 --> 0:05:34.679 the most though, is the fact that they are coming 0:05:34.720 --> 0:05:36.920 off of their biggest win of the season. The Bears 0:05:36.920 --> 0:05:39.719 are in that regard and beating the Rams at home 0:05:40.200 --> 0:05:43.440 in a primetime football game. You look before that, Mike, 0:05:43.520 --> 0:05:46.560 I mean, they're like their strength of victories just aren't 0:05:46.600 --> 0:05:48.359 really that strong. I mean, you beat the teams you 0:05:48.360 --> 0:05:50.479 had to beat. That's how you get to be nine 0:05:50.520 --> 0:05:52.320 and four. You have to be able to beat the 0:05:52.400 --> 0:05:54.880 Jets and the Bills and you know, the Cardinals of 0:05:54.920 --> 0:05:58.280 the world. But you know, the Seahawks weren't the Seahawks 0:05:58.560 --> 0:06:00.960 at least the Seahawks were seeing now they played them. So, yeah, 0:06:00.960 --> 0:06:03.200 the Bears got them really early in the season before 0:06:03.200 --> 0:06:05.520 the Seahawks kind of found their footing, and that's that 0:06:05.520 --> 0:06:07.840 that that was a nice win for Chicago certainly looks 0:06:07.839 --> 0:06:11.560 good now in that NFC playoff picture. So from my perspective, 0:06:12.000 --> 0:06:14.320 the way I look at this matchup. I mean, I 0:06:14.360 --> 0:06:16.360 don't know who's gonna win it. I'm not claiming that 0:06:16.440 --> 0:06:18.720 at all, but I think this is going to be 0:06:18.760 --> 0:06:21.600 one of those knockdown, drago type football games. I would 0:06:21.600 --> 0:06:24.000 be very surprised if it ends up being a blowout 0:06:24.000 --> 0:06:26.280 on either side, because you look at the Bears defensively, 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:29.239 the way that they're built, you know they are there 0:06:29.279 --> 0:06:31.560 to make the game low scoring, to find ways to 0:06:31.600 --> 0:06:35.080 get takeaways, to give opportunities their offense. Their offense. I 0:06:35.120 --> 0:06:38.440 think in the end, what Matt Nagy wants to accomplish 0:06:38.440 --> 0:06:41.640 here is to get a not safe that's the wrong word, 0:06:41.680 --> 0:06:45.479 but protecting the football and being able to establish the 0:06:45.520 --> 0:06:48.600 short area stuff, being able to use some of the trickeration, 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:50.440 being able to get the running game going, and then 0:06:50.480 --> 0:06:53.160 have some big plays down the field. When they get 0:06:53.200 --> 0:06:54.680 to that point, I think you're going to see the 0:06:54.680 --> 0:06:57.640 Bears really become, you know, solid elite contenders. But from 0:06:57.640 --> 0:06:59.720 the Packers perspective, you're coming off of a game in 0:06:59.760 --> 0:07:02.360 which you scored the most points you've scored all season, 0:07:02.640 --> 0:07:04.800 and now you're taking on a team that you actually 0:07:04.800 --> 0:07:08.279 beat back in Week one. Yes, it was dramatic Aaron 0:07:08.360 --> 0:07:10.000 Rodgers talked about it's going to go down as one 0:07:10.000 --> 0:07:13.240 of the more special moments of his NFL career. It 0:07:13.240 --> 0:07:15.200 would be a little bit more special had the Packers 0:07:15.200 --> 0:07:16.680 been able to have a big winning season, as he 0:07:16.760 --> 0:07:19.920 called it, of course. But at one of the points 0:07:19.920 --> 0:07:21.400 I tried to make in the story that I wrote 0:07:21.400 --> 0:07:23.720 is the fact that if the Packers don't come back 0:07:23.800 --> 0:07:26.600 in that game, this game really has no meaning, It 0:07:26.640 --> 0:07:29.880 has no ramifications. That's why the Packers are where they 0:07:29.920 --> 0:07:32.080 are in the fact that they can go back now 0:07:32.120 --> 0:07:34.120 and they're in a position to potentially be able to 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:36.600 pick up another one on the road and Soldier Field, 0:07:36.920 --> 0:07:39.440 it adds to just another chapter in this rivalry. Yeah, 0:07:39.440 --> 0:07:41.880 I mean, this is definitely one to to look forward to. 0:07:41.920 --> 0:07:44.280 When a couple of weeks ago we were wondering just 0:07:44.360 --> 0:07:46.520 even what might be at stake when the Packers go 0:07:46.560 --> 0:07:49.120 to Chicago. 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For complete rules and eligibility, 0:08:22.640 --> 0:08:26.320 go to Packers dot com slash Best Seats Cousin Subs. 0:08:26.800 --> 0:08:30.840 We believe in Better. Okay, I know tomorrow our final 0:08:30.880 --> 0:08:32.480 show of the week, we're going to get into the 0:08:32.559 --> 0:08:34.800 Keys to Victory and all that. And we've already talked 0:08:34.800 --> 0:08:37.360 about this a little bit during the week, but it 0:08:37.880 --> 0:08:43.200 bears repeating you the way the statistics line up in 0:08:43.240 --> 0:08:47.679 this game. Chicago twenty five interceptions, thirty four total takeaways 0:08:47.720 --> 0:08:50.760 on defense, which far and away leads the NFL. The 0:08:50.760 --> 0:08:54.120 Green Bay Packers with only twelve giveaways on the season, 0:08:54.200 --> 0:08:56.599 only ten of those with Aaron Rodgers at quarterback. I 0:08:56.760 --> 0:08:59.280 might add because of the two that Kaiser had when 0:08:59.360 --> 0:09:01.880 Rogers was dealing with that knee injury in Week one, 0:09:02.280 --> 0:09:06.559 Aaron Rodgers with just one interception. He's the only quarterback 0:09:06.559 --> 0:09:09.560 in the NFL, the only regular starting quarterback in the 0:09:09.640 --> 0:09:12.040 n of Hell this year, with just the one interception, 0:09:12.160 --> 0:09:17.040 Rogers has now the record streak three consecutive pass attempts 0:09:17.280 --> 0:09:22.400 without an interception. You just get the sense that, maybe 0:09:22.400 --> 0:09:25.120 more so in this type of matchup than any other, 0:09:25.280 --> 0:09:30.560 that one or two turnovers are going to decide who 0:09:30.559 --> 0:09:33.320 comes out on top. Here, absolutely, Mike. And it's so 0:09:33.400 --> 0:09:35.160 interesting to me because I was bringing up the stats 0:09:35.240 --> 0:09:36.640 right now. I was trying to see where the Chicago 0:09:36.720 --> 0:09:40.720 Bears are at offensively with passer rating right now. Defensively, 0:09:40.840 --> 0:09:43.960 seventy three point four opposing passer rating so far on 0:09:44.000 --> 0:09:47.080 the season. Yes, there's been twenty one touchdowns, which is 0:09:47.160 --> 0:09:51.080 in the upper echelon in the league, but interceptions is 0:09:51.120 --> 0:09:54.360 what drags down that opposer passer rating. For sure. The 0:09:54.400 --> 0:09:57.719 next closest defense in terms of opposing passer rating is 0:09:57.800 --> 0:10:01.120 eighty three point four that belongs to the Jacksonville Jaguars. 0:10:01.480 --> 0:10:02.719 And then if you look at it on the other 0:10:02.760 --> 0:10:07.640 side of things, I was trying to find it stalling, stalling, stalling, stalling. 0:10:08.520 --> 0:10:09.880 I'm not going to find it because like, oh, here 0:10:09.880 --> 0:10:12.800 it is the Chicago Bears ninety two point six offensive. 0:10:13.240 --> 0:10:16.000 That's a twenty point difference. So even though you know 0:10:16.040 --> 0:10:18.560 Mitchell Robinsky has had some turnovers this year and they've 0:10:18.600 --> 0:10:22.079 had some moments where they haven't been maybe offensively explosive, 0:10:22.400 --> 0:10:25.240 that defense is going to keep you in games. The 0:10:25.280 --> 0:10:26.880 part of this I really like, and you kind of 0:10:27.280 --> 0:10:29.079 predicted this a little bit earlier in the week when 0:10:29.080 --> 0:10:31.360 we were looking at Kyle Fuller's seven interceptions on the 0:10:31.440 --> 0:10:34.880 league the year. You look at where his season has gone, 0:10:35.120 --> 0:10:37.600 the fact that this whole two thousand eighteen began for 0:10:37.720 --> 0:10:41.480 him signing a restricted tender with the Packers to potentially 0:10:41.520 --> 0:10:44.040 come to Green Bay. Brian Goods was trying to get 0:10:44.120 --> 0:10:47.720 him to across the border speak and the Bears matched it. 0:10:47.880 --> 0:10:50.920 And as he was saying in his conference call with reporters, yeah, 0:10:50.920 --> 0:10:53.400 what better way right now for him having seven picks 0:10:53.440 --> 0:10:56.800 on the year than to end the streak for Aaron Rodgers. Conversely, 0:10:56.880 --> 0:11:00.080 Aaron Rodgers is trying to continue what he did in 0:11:00.120 --> 0:11:03.040 the second half against the Bears seventeen of twenty three 0:11:03.080 --> 0:11:05.800 for two or forty three yards, three touchdowns, whatever it was. 0:11:06.400 --> 0:11:11.520 There is like that juxtaposition of those two forces is 0:11:11.559 --> 0:11:13.599 making this I think one of the musty matchups of 0:11:13.640 --> 0:11:16.480 this week. Yeah. Well, it's interesting because when you look 0:11:16.520 --> 0:11:19.880 at the Bears, it's not just the thirty four turnovers, 0:11:19.920 --> 0:11:23.880 which is six better than any other defense in the 0:11:23.960 --> 0:11:26.800 league to this point. But I took a closer look 0:11:26.800 --> 0:11:29.160 at their statistics. I knew they had a handful, but 0:11:29.200 --> 0:11:33.160 I didn't realize that that defense has scored six touchdowns 0:11:33.480 --> 0:11:37.040 this season. Eddie Jackson, the safety who is second to 0:11:37.080 --> 0:11:39.760 Fuller on the team with five interceptions. He's returned two 0:11:39.760 --> 0:11:42.839 picks for touchdowns and he also has a fumble return 0:11:42.880 --> 0:11:46.720 for a touchdown. And they have three other defensive touchdowns 0:11:46.760 --> 0:11:48.600 on the year, one of those here at Lambo Field 0:11:48.640 --> 0:11:51.920 Khalil mac with the interception return of that ill advised 0:11:51.920 --> 0:11:55.400 screen pass um by Deshaun Kaiser late in the first 0:11:55.440 --> 0:11:59.120 half there in Week one. But man, oh Man, six 0:11:59.160 --> 0:12:02.640 defensive touched ounds in what is it, thirteen games at 0:12:02.640 --> 0:12:06.040 this point, that's that's just remarkable. And and as as 0:12:06.320 --> 0:12:10.280 we talked about on yesterday's show, this is so reminiscent 0:12:10.400 --> 0:12:15.400 of other Bears teams, Bears competitive playoff caliber teams in 0:12:15.440 --> 0:12:19.280 the past, that that they lean on their defense. The 0:12:19.360 --> 0:12:23.040 offense can do just enough. And uh, and as we said, 0:12:23.080 --> 0:12:26.160 with with Mitchell Trubisky just being a second year pro 0:12:26.400 --> 0:12:30.319 at quarterback, with presumably you know, his arrow, his progression 0:12:30.400 --> 0:12:33.280 still heading upward, it's really going to be interesting to 0:12:33.320 --> 0:12:36.040 see what happens with this Bears team in the future. 0:12:36.040 --> 0:12:38.120 But for the right here and now, this is a 0:12:38.120 --> 0:12:40.120 big one Sunday. It is. And and the thing that 0:12:40.160 --> 0:12:42.240 I'm most looking forward to is the fact that, yeah, 0:12:42.280 --> 0:12:44.360 they did see Tom Brady and they actually came out 0:12:44.640 --> 0:12:47.000 on the losing side of things. But other than that, 0:12:47.040 --> 0:12:49.800 they still haven't face a quarterback quite like Aaron Rodgers, 0:12:49.800 --> 0:12:52.840 who was as turnover a verse as he's been throughout 0:12:52.880 --> 0:12:55.079 the course of his career. I was gonna try to 0:12:55.120 --> 0:12:58.160 bring up quickly as I can. And it's funny because Fuller, 0:12:58.200 --> 0:13:00.960 as we mentioned with the seven interception, he knows he 0:13:01.000 --> 0:13:03.200 should have eight, because he should have had the one 0:13:03.520 --> 0:13:06.360 at lambeau Field in Week one, which would have squelched 0:13:06.360 --> 0:13:10.199 the Packers comeback efforts in that game. Rogers through one 0:13:10.240 --> 0:13:13.000 that uh that you know, hit Fuller right in the chest, 0:13:13.040 --> 0:13:14.920 so to speak, and he didn't hang onto it. And 0:13:15.240 --> 0:13:17.800 as they say, sometimes you you drop a pick, you 0:13:17.800 --> 0:13:20.040 give up a game winning touchdown, and that's exactly how 0:13:20.080 --> 0:13:22.199 a Week one ended up unfolding. And if you look 0:13:22.200 --> 0:13:24.360 at the Packers too, it's the same exact situation where 0:13:24.400 --> 0:13:26.480 they had a chance to just to stop what the 0:13:26.520 --> 0:13:28.280 Cardinals were doing and weren't able to bring it in 0:13:28.600 --> 0:13:31.680 two weeks ago. Those turnover plays are so important, especially 0:13:31.679 --> 0:13:34.760 in those critical juncture of games. But history is what 0:13:34.840 --> 0:13:37.120 it is, hindsight is what it is, and the Packers 0:13:37.160 --> 0:13:39.360 now find themselves in a position at five seven and 0:13:39.360 --> 0:13:41.880 one to go in there potentially having a chance to 0:13:42.440 --> 0:13:45.000 really get yourself, you know, some momentum here in this 0:13:45.040 --> 0:13:47.319 final stretch of games. I've said it twice. I've written 0:13:47.320 --> 0:13:49.880 two inboxes this week Mike's I've said it both times. 0:13:50.320 --> 0:13:53.000 The Packers beat the Bears, with the Bears coming off 0:13:53.040 --> 0:13:55.320 of the wind that they had over the Rams. Suddenly 0:13:55.360 --> 0:13:57.520 at six seven and one, nobody wants to play you. 0:13:58.080 --> 0:14:01.440 So it's gonna be interesting to see exactly what they're 0:14:01.480 --> 0:14:03.000 able to do in a game like this. I think 0:14:03.040 --> 0:14:05.480 it's gonna be so important again looking at Keys of 0:14:05.520 --> 0:14:08.480 Victory tomorrow, but getting off to a fast start, because 0:14:08.520 --> 0:14:12.200 you know the way things ended in week one, Matt 0:14:12.280 --> 0:14:15.040 Maggie vic Fangio. They're going to have their team mentally ready, 0:14:15.080 --> 0:14:18.600 mentally conditioned to not be in a position once again 0:14:18.600 --> 0:14:20.680 where you get off to an early and you sacrifice it, 0:14:20.720 --> 0:14:23.680 you give it up. That's the one kind of I 0:14:23.760 --> 0:14:25.960 think incentive that they're going to really be able to 0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:28.680 hone in on and wanting to make sure they finish right. 0:14:28.760 --> 0:14:30.520 So if the Packers need to get off to a 0:14:30.560 --> 0:14:32.480 better start in this one. Yeah, And before we move 0:14:32.520 --> 0:14:34.680 on to one last topic for today, I do want 0:14:34.680 --> 0:14:38.000 to bring up a coach McCarthy ism here because I 0:14:38.000 --> 0:14:41.040 think it applies because we heard over thirteen years from 0:14:41.080 --> 0:14:43.920 coach Mike McCarthy about the challenge in this league of 0:14:43.920 --> 0:14:47.680 handling success. And the Chicago Bears are coming off their 0:14:47.680 --> 0:14:50.720 biggest win of the season. All the spotlight is on them. 0:14:50.960 --> 0:14:53.480 How do they handle this level of success now with 0:14:53.640 --> 0:14:56.040 an arch rival, the Packers coming into play them. I 0:14:56.040 --> 0:14:57.800 think that's a factor. You just look at a week 0:14:57.840 --> 0:15:02.520 ago the da As Cowboys, they beat the New Orleans Saints. 0:15:02.560 --> 0:15:05.080 They had everything going for him, all the spotlight was 0:15:05.160 --> 0:15:08.040 on them. They had a division rival, the Philadelphia Eagles, 0:15:08.080 --> 0:15:10.120 coming into their place, and what happens that game goes 0:15:10.160 --> 0:15:13.560 to overtime, could have gone either way several different times 0:15:13.600 --> 0:15:16.560 down the stretch and in overtime for for what way 0:15:16.600 --> 0:15:18.720 that game could have gone. So just something to keep 0:15:18.760 --> 0:15:21.600 in mind, because because handling success in this league is 0:15:21.600 --> 0:15:24.000 not easy. Yeah, and this league has a very interesting 0:15:24.040 --> 0:15:27.120 way of humbling you quickly, just as the Rams just 0:15:27.200 --> 0:15:29.200 has the Saints, and even to some extent while they 0:15:29.200 --> 0:15:31.840 did come on with the victory of the Cowboys. Yeah. Um, 0:15:31.880 --> 0:15:35.600 all right, Well, it is about time to be wrapping 0:15:35.720 --> 0:15:39.320 up online the Pro Bowl voting. I believe the deadline 0:15:39.400 --> 0:15:42.680 is later today, later on Thursday, as we're as we're 0:15:42.680 --> 0:15:47.720 recording this right now. Packers certainly have some Pro Bowl candidates, 0:15:47.800 --> 0:15:51.720 legitimate Pro Bowl candidates despite a sub record at this point. 0:15:51.800 --> 0:15:54.320 I guess the first one that comes to mind for 0:15:54.400 --> 0:15:57.960 me would probably be, well, I guess I'll say to 0:15:58.440 --> 0:16:00.600 Davantae Adams with the season he is having, and then 0:16:00.680 --> 0:16:03.160 David Baktr at left tackle. I know bok Tr has 0:16:03.200 --> 0:16:05.560 been dealing with some injuries off and on, but he's 0:16:05.600 --> 0:16:08.120 out there battling through it and I still think he's 0:16:08.120 --> 0:16:10.720 been He's been one heck of a player up front 0:16:10.720 --> 0:16:13.440 for Green Bay. Yeah, I mean this entire offense. You 0:16:13.480 --> 0:16:16.000 look at the guys that have started every single game 0:16:16.200 --> 0:16:18.320 and you can draw up parallels between them. When you 0:16:18.320 --> 0:16:20.920 look at Adams the season he's had, I mean three 0:16:20.960 --> 0:16:22.840 games to go, he has a chance to have a 0:16:23.040 --> 0:16:26.000 really special season, not only now in franchise history, but 0:16:26.080 --> 0:16:30.160 league history. If he stays up there in receptions, receiving yards, 0:16:30.200 --> 0:16:32.360 and touchdowns, I think he's top three, and all three 0:16:32.360 --> 0:16:34.680 of those right now are top five somewhere in there. 0:16:34.920 --> 0:16:37.680 That's remarkable. David Botry isn't going to have the kind 0:16:37.680 --> 0:16:40.600 of there's no stats there to wow you. But you know, 0:16:40.640 --> 0:16:44.320 I'd asked Aaron Rodgers about him on Wednesday, and Rogers 0:16:44.360 --> 0:16:46.200 didn't bring up Pro Bowl, he didn't bring up all 0:16:46.240 --> 0:16:48.880 Pro He said he had his whole fame potential. I 0:16:48.880 --> 0:16:51.320 mean for Rogers, you know, the thing is he's always 0:16:51.320 --> 0:16:53.080 going to talk up his teammates, He's always going to 0:16:53.160 --> 0:16:55.680 give them credit, but he's always very careful and what 0:16:55.800 --> 0:16:58.000 he says. He's not going to throw something out there 0:16:58.080 --> 0:17:00.400 just for the sake of praising someone. He's he's not 0:17:00.400 --> 0:17:02.920 gonna go overboard and try to pump somebody up with 0:17:02.960 --> 0:17:05.400 some kind of false conference or whatever, not that that's 0:17:05.440 --> 0:17:07.560 even an issue with box No, but I mean the 0:17:07.600 --> 0:17:09.960 fact that you know, those two have been together now, Mike, 0:17:10.000 --> 0:17:11.720 if you look at it now there and there's sixth 0:17:11.720 --> 0:17:14.680 season together. It doesn't work a lot like that in 0:17:14.720 --> 0:17:16.760 the NFL that you can get a left tackle that's 0:17:16.760 --> 0:17:20.040 with someone for that amount time, even Andrew Whitworth eventually 0:17:20.119 --> 0:17:22.800 ended up moving onto the Rams. So for them to 0:17:22.840 --> 0:17:25.919 have that that one to punch together in Rogers in 0:17:25.960 --> 0:17:29.680 this particular season, especially early on with dealing with the 0:17:29.760 --> 0:17:32.120 knee injury in box t are being able to stay 0:17:32.119 --> 0:17:34.760 out there, you know. And I had asked Lucas Patrick 0:17:34.800 --> 0:17:37.760 about him tour this week and what that meant to 0:17:37.800 --> 0:17:39.719 have him on the field and play every snap when 0:17:39.760 --> 0:17:42.520 you're down three other offensive lineman, knowing what he's dealing 0:17:42.520 --> 0:17:45.120 with with his knees, and he said, I mean, he's 0:17:45.119 --> 0:17:47.439 been saying. People are afraid to say it, but the 0:17:47.440 --> 0:17:51.000 guy's legitimately been a snub. He has two All pros 0:17:51.080 --> 0:17:53.359 to his name right now, but still only one Pro Bowl. 0:17:53.600 --> 0:17:56.280 So yeah, hashtag Pro Bowl vote. You can type in 0:17:56.320 --> 0:17:58.280 your favorite Packer player name. You can type in at 0:17:58.280 --> 0:18:02.480 Mike Spofford too. Maybe they that that's okay. I'm not 0:18:02.560 --> 0:18:05.200 I'm not saved the Pro Bowl votes for the players. 0:18:05.240 --> 0:18:07.119 That's perfectly fine. But but there are a lot of 0:18:07.119 --> 0:18:09.159 decent candidates. When you bring up Adams, you bring up 0:18:09.160 --> 0:18:12.199 back t R. I think Kenny Clark that was That 0:18:12.240 --> 0:18:14.160 was the other one. I was going to mention. Kenny 0:18:14.200 --> 0:18:16.240 Clark on the defensive side, I think is the one 0:18:16.280 --> 0:18:18.600 guy for the Packers who has legitimate case. I mean, 0:18:18.600 --> 0:18:21.320 to have six sacks is and into your defensive lineman 0:18:21.880 --> 0:18:24.440 and you know, and the player vote here is going 0:18:24.480 --> 0:18:26.680 to be part of this. The players, I believe it's tomorrow, 0:18:26.720 --> 0:18:30.160 are going to be casting their votes. Um. And that's 0:18:30.160 --> 0:18:32.600 where I think a guy like Kenny Clark start will 0:18:32.680 --> 0:18:35.600 will start to get some attention. Because all these teams 0:18:35.600 --> 0:18:38.160 that have played the Packers, and certainly since Mike Daniels 0:18:38.160 --> 0:18:41.879 has been out with his foot injury and gone on injured, 0:18:41.920 --> 0:18:45.280 reserve anything in the trenches as far as game planning 0:18:45.280 --> 0:18:47.880 against the Packers, you're focused on Kenny Clark. And that's 0:18:47.880 --> 0:18:49.399 the kind of thing that goes a long way in 0:18:49.520 --> 0:18:52.080 terms of the in terms of the attention and the 0:18:52.119 --> 0:18:54.159 things that can garner votes for this. Yeah, and for 0:18:54.160 --> 0:18:56.880 people that don't know it's it's basically thirds is how 0:18:56.920 --> 0:18:59.639 this all goes. The third the coaching vote, third the 0:18:59.680 --> 0:19:02.560 player vote, and third fan vote. I believe it is 0:19:02.640 --> 0:19:05.080 so U Yeah, it's across the board in that regard, 0:19:05.119 --> 0:19:07.800 and certainly, uh, you know, it is in some ways 0:19:07.800 --> 0:19:09.920 a popularity contest. I know, one of the things you 0:19:09.920 --> 0:19:12.080 always used to say about b J. Raji it was 0:19:12.200 --> 0:19:14.560 Rajie probably deserved to go in two thousand or two 0:19:14.560 --> 0:19:16.960 thousand and ten. He ended up going in eleven. A 0:19:17.000 --> 0:19:19.639 lot of times's a year after it almost seems to 0:19:19.640 --> 0:19:21.639 be like, yeah and that, and that was the case 0:19:21.920 --> 0:19:24.320 a handful of years ago, with guys like t J. 0:19:24.520 --> 0:19:27.160