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Speaker 1: Hi everyone, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.

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Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford. He is the one and only

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Speaker 1: West Hodgwitz. Were coming to you here from our studios

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Speaker 1: at lambeau Field West. Were another day closer to Packers

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Speaker 1: Bears Part two for It'll be Sunday, a noon Central

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Speaker 1: Time kickoff at Soldier Field. And I know we mentioned

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Speaker 1: earlier this week how the Bears are one victory away

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Speaker 1: from clinching their first NFC North title since two thousand

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Speaker 1: and ten. One thing I didn't realize at the time

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Speaker 1: earlier this week, and now it's come up in some

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Speaker 1: different avenues throughout the course of this week, is that

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Speaker 1: the Packers visit to the Bears in the regular season.

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Speaker 1: In two thousand and ten, two sold Your Field was

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Speaker 1: the last time the Packers lost down there. For some

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Speaker 1: reason that hadn't even occurred to me until you start

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Speaker 1: looking at the stats and hearing what people are talking about,

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Speaker 1: and it's like, wow, the Packers have won seven regular

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Speaker 1: season games in a row, eight in a row in all,

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Speaker 1: including the NFC Championship game. It's really quite the streak

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Speaker 1: between these two rivals, and not something I was even

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Speaker 1: totally aware of pretty surprising, to be honest with you,

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Speaker 1: And I was actually going to open the show if

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Speaker 1: you wouldn't have let in that way by asking you,

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Speaker 1: as a historian of this thing, if you realize that,

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Speaker 1: because usually I pay attention to that kind of stuff,

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Speaker 1: and this one went past me. Someone else had mentioned it,

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Speaker 1: and then I looked it up and I was like wow.

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Speaker 1: So I went and when I was writing the story

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Speaker 1: for Packers dot Com, I went through each one of

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Speaker 1: those seasons on NFL G S I S. And it's

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Speaker 1: funny how I recalled every one, single one of those games,

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Speaker 1: maybe besides two thousand eleven, but I remember twelve. Remember well,

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Speaker 1: thirteen is pretty unformab and sixteen is pretty unforgettable as well,

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Speaker 1: with the deep all the Jordy Nelson to set up

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Speaker 1: the walk off field. And what's wild about it is

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Speaker 1: I never really stitched them all together to realize that

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Speaker 1: this is an eight game winning streak now dating back

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Speaker 1: to that NFC Championship game in two thousand eleven, essentially

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Speaker 1: that led to the Packers going to Super Bowl forty five.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty incredible. And Aaron Rodgers was talking about this

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Speaker 1: at his locker on Wednesday, and he said, you know,

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Speaker 1: there's some stuff made out of Chicago about a Keem

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Speaker 1: Hicks saying, you know, some comments about Roger's comments and

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Speaker 1: Rogers like, I wasn't trying to say anything about it

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Speaker 1: other than just a statement of fact that they're trying

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Speaker 1: to get their ninth straight win at Soldier Fields. So

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Speaker 1: it's interesting to me and that there's so many storylines

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Speaker 1: that fit into this thing when you look at how

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Speaker 1: the Packers have been playing uh in in the run

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Speaker 1: that the Bears have got on winning I think six

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Speaker 1: of the last seven. Now you have these two teams

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Speaker 1: meeting and it just so happens to be stakes for

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Speaker 1: each team. The Bears trying to clinch their first NFC

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Speaker 1: North Tittles you said, in eight years, and the Packers

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Speaker 1: trying to keep their playoff hopes alive in a suddenly

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Speaker 1: wide open NFC race. It's very interesting when you break

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Speaker 1: it all down and also look at the fact that

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Speaker 1: the Packers are carrying in this winning streak of what

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Speaker 1: this game truly means, and the fact that it's also

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Speaker 1: being played in December only adds to it. Well, it's

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Speaker 1: interesting because the Bears, the Bears certainly Matt Nagge and

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Speaker 1: his conference called Worth Reporters yesterday said he's not paying

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Speaker 1: streak in Chicago. I'm not sure I totally believe that,

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Speaker 1: but the point being, they're not necessarily getting hung up

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Speaker 1: on that kind of history. But you know, those guys

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Speaker 1: out with a victory. You know that this means something

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Speaker 1: to them, on top of the fact that they can

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Speaker 1: clinch their first division title. And interestingly with Chicago, if

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Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, I believe the Bears are six and

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Speaker 1: one at Soldier Field this year. They're only loss at

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Speaker 1: a game that ended on the one yard line, remember

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Speaker 1: with that hail Mary and the Bears caught it, but

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Speaker 1: that's the only game that the Bears have lost at

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Speaker 1: home this year, and quite frankly, all all four of

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Speaker 1: that heartbreaking variety starting with Week one when Rogers brings

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Speaker 1: the New England game ending on the one yard line.

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Speaker 1: They lost in overtime to the New York Giants a

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Speaker 1: a game that the Bears had rallied at the end

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Speaker 1: The other Chicago loss this season they are the Giants,

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Speaker 1: the Miami game that that that crazy back and forth

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Speaker 1: So an interesting season for the Bears and one that

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Speaker 1: they want to add another chapter two with with that

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Speaker 1: division championship if they can beat the Packers. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: it's funny and that they've just had some absolute mail biers.

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Speaker 1: When you go back to that Miami game. I remember

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Speaker 1: watching that here at the office and just being in

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Speaker 1: that was that was one of the wildest games. Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean in Miami just had that game with New England.

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Speaker 1: I mean, but that Miami Chicago game was was one

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Speaker 1: of the wildest football games of the season, absolutely across

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Speaker 1: the board. The thing that really stands out to me

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Speaker 1: in a primetime football game. You look before that, Mike,

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Speaker 1: I mean, they're like their strength of victories just aren't

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Speaker 1: at least the Seahawks were seeing now they played them. So, yeah,

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Speaker 1: the Seahawks kind of found their footing, and that's that

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Speaker 1: that that was a nice win for Chicago certainly looks

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Speaker 1: good now in that NFC playoff picture. So from my perspective,

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Speaker 1: don't know who's gonna win it. I'm not claiming that

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Speaker 1: think in the end, what Matt Nagy wants to accomplish

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Speaker 1: Bears really become, you know, solid elite contenders. But from

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Speaker 1: the Packers perspective, you're coming off of a game in

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Speaker 1: and now you're taking on a team that you actually

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Speaker 1: beat back in Week one. Yes, it was dramatic Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodgers talked about it's going to go down as one

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Speaker 1: of the more special moments of his NFL career. It

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Speaker 1: would be a little bit more special had the Packers

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Speaker 1: has no ramifications. That's why the Packers are where they

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Speaker 1: it adds to just another chapter in this rivalry. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is definitely one to to look forward to.

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Speaker 1: When a couple of weeks ago we were wondering just

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Speaker 1: to Chicago. But um, but this should be a fun one.

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Speaker 1: Keys to Victory and all that. And we've already talked

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Speaker 1: bears repeating you the way the statistics line up in

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Speaker 1: this game. Chicago twenty five interceptions, thirty four total takeaways

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers with just one interception. He's the only quarterback

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Speaker 1: Rogers has now the record streak three consecutive pass attempts

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Speaker 1: interesting to me because I was bringing up the stats

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Speaker 1: Bears are at offensively with passer rating right now. Defensively,

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Speaker 1: seventy three point four opposing passer rating so far on

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Speaker 1: in the upper echelon in the league, but interceptions is

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Speaker 1: That's a twenty point difference. So even though you know

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Speaker 1: Mitchell Robinsky has had some turnovers this year and they've

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Speaker 1: that defense is going to keep you in games. The

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Speaker 1: two thousand consecutive I don't care what position you're playing.

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Speaker 1: To play two thousand consecutive snaps in this league, that's

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Speaker 1: that's a feather in your cap. And I think, if

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Speaker 1: midway through two thousand and sixteen, when J. C. Trader

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Speaker 1: Well for now, we gotta go. We'll call it a

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Speaker 1: wrap on this edition of Packers Unscripted. Be sure to

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