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Speaker 1: It is Thursday, March twenty seventh. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.

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Speaker 2: Chack Real, Welcome man. It is Jaguars Happy Hour. Our

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Speaker 2: friends in the UK will love that one. I'm JP Shadrick,

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Speaker 2: Who've got a busy hour ahead. Free agency impacts will

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Speaker 2: get some answers to some of those questions. The latest

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Speaker 2: mock drafts and we are two weeks away from the

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Speaker 2: offseason program with a new coaching staff and a new

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Speaker 2: strengthen conditioning staff and what goes behind the scenes in that.

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Speaker 2: Starting April seventh, Jaguars Happy Hour is presented by Dreamfinders Homes,

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Speaker 3: Jeff Logoman out this week. But the guy with us

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Speaker 3: today is somebody you know you'll love.

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Speaker 2: A fifth round pick of the Jaguars back in twenty

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Speaker 2: ten out of Murray State.

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Speaker 3: Three years with the.

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Speaker 2: Jags, one year or the Lions one year with the Bears.

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Speaker 2: Retired from the NFL, but not done with sports, moved

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Speaker 2: into a career and mixed martial arts. He's worked his

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Speaker 2: way up in the UFC thirteen and six as a pro,

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Speaker 2: eleven wins by knockout for Austin Lane.

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Speaker 3: Good afternoon, How are you good afternoon man? I'm doing great.

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Speaker 4: I'm not interested in a Paddington Bear, so I'm sorry

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Speaker 4: about that. And yeah, still doing the whole MMA thing

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Speaker 4: like this is what happens when you hate golf. You

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Speaker 4: have to find other hobbies to do. And thankfully mma

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Speaker 4: and fighting kind of went hand in hand with football,

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Speaker 4: so it worked out pretty well. We're in the media world.

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Speaker 3: Here in Jacksonville.

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Speaker 2: I was told to say the Brenton Austin Show five times.

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Speaker 2: The first time I said it today on Twitter, I said,

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Speaker 2: what is the Brenton Austin Show?

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Speaker 3: So that's one out of the way. That's one out

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Speaker 3: of the way.

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Speaker 4: I probably have to mention a couple of times, my

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Speaker 4: sou But Brent's gonna learn what a what freelancer means

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Speaker 4: really quick here as I'm on this show right now.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, yeah, yeah, and hey, if the check keeps coming.

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Speaker 2: They do all you can. There's some doubt about that. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: good to have you here, though.

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Speaker 3: It's uh.

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Speaker 2: We get to hang out on a practice field some

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Speaker 2: when you're around. But I don't know if we've ever

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Speaker 2: actually done a program together.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, JP, this has been a long time coming.

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Speaker 4: As someone who put in many hours at the you know,

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Speaker 4: drinking establishments around Jacksonville, it's only right come on Happy

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Speaker 4: Hour now.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I thought you're pointing with.

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Speaker 2: Me trying to send the show in general Happy Hour

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Speaker 2: unsweet and nice sea.

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Speaker 3: I'm in bed by nine there every night. I am

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Speaker 3: now too. But back in the day, though, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, it was one thing that may or may not

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Speaker 2: be who knows. Of course, you're you're finding you with

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Speaker 2: the Jags was twenty twelve. That was my first year

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Speaker 2: with the Jaguars. We go back that far at least. Uh,

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Speaker 2: we've got a free agent talk coming up. We'll get

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Speaker 2: to some of these mock drafts coming up. A former

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Speaker 2: teammate of yours is getting another honor in college. I

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Speaker 2: don't know if you guys talked about this today or not.

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Speaker 3: We did not know.

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Speaker 4: I think our producer needs to do a better job

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Speaker 4: of getting our stories right here?

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Speaker 3: What do we got.

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Speaker 2: Justin Blackman was inducted in the College Football Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, fairly recently.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll be inducted into the Oklahoma State Ring of Honor.

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Speaker 3: Good for him, how about that?

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Speaker 4: Justin listen man, I understand that here in Jacksonville didn't

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Speaker 4: have the career that he wanted. But in terms, there's

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Speaker 4: a locker room guy, just a guy that you know,

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Speaker 4: you see every single day, like I did, one of

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Speaker 4: the most first of all humble and most salts of

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Speaker 4: remember watching him in practice thinking like, this guy's gonna

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Speaker 4: stood out too. Yeah, it stood out the time. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: and just naturally gifted, you know. And I think Cecil

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Speaker 4: Schwartz told me this one time, is that there's just

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Speaker 4: some guys where when you're running those routes, you know

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Speaker 4: to do it. And Justin Blackman man, if you remember

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Speaker 4: him playing and obviously in practice too, it just everything

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Speaker 2: And if it was within five feet of him, he's

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Speaker 2: without a doubt, and I always was.

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Speaker 4: And listen, I mean a fun fact about Justin Blackman too,

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Speaker 4: than anybody had ever seen before.

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Speaker 3: Man talk, that's what you expect. I'm from Wisconsin.

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Speaker 4: We would do a little bit there too, But I mean,

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Speaker 4: this dude like he always had one ready to go.

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Speaker 3: Man. Yeah, absolutely, And there.

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Speaker 2: Was some obviously some big moments on the field, but

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Speaker 2: unfortunately just didn't last long enough here. But congratulations to

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Speaker 2: and I guess that was last fall and he'll be

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Speaker 2: in the Ring of Honor at Oklahoma State coming up.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's uh, free agency is not done. It's

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Speaker 2: never done. It only begins at the start of the

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Speaker 2: league year. The Jags were active right there out of

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Speaker 2: the gate in the negotiation period this year, and they've

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Speaker 2: been really quiet after that. One signing after those first

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Speaker 2: wave of free agency. So now ten new players have

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Speaker 2: come in. So the question for you, Austin, Yes, a couple.

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Speaker 2: I got a lot of questions for you. What free

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Speaker 2: agent will have the greatest impact on this team in

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Speaker 4: So it's funny because we talk about free agency and

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Speaker 4: it always seems like the team that spends the most

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Speaker 4: money is going to the super Bowl, right, Like that's

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Speaker 4: the that's how fan bases want to treat Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Right, Fortunately, we know that's not how that works. That's

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Speaker 4: But to answer your question of who I think is

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Speaker 4: going to have the biggest impact, you know, I think

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Speaker 4: a guy that you got to keep in mind here

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Speaker 4: is Jordan Lewis for a couple of reasons, the corner

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 4: When he was brought in here, the first thing that

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 4: And that's a legitimate question because this guy is a

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Speaker 4: So how are they going to work together?

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Speaker 3: Do you move Jerry Joe on the outside. That could

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Speaker 4: But I think when we talk about Jordan Lewis of

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Speaker 4: what he brings to this team, obviously it's the presence

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Speaker 4: also its attitude. And that's why I think this defense

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Speaker 4: needs more than anything going to this new season is

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Speaker 4: more attitude and just more kind of having that dog

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Speaker 4: in you if you will. You know, it's one thing

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Speaker 4: if you're a defense and you're you're dominating every single play,

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Speaker 4: you can have a bunch of choir boys out there.

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Speaker 4: It's fine, but when you face adversity, you need those

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Speaker 4: guys that had that dog in him to kind of

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Speaker 4: And I think Jordan Lewis can do that. And he's

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Speaker 4: a dog on the field, but also professional off the field.

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Speaker 4: He was voted i think in twenty twenty four he

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Speaker 4: was voted like mister cowboy, like mister good guy, whatever

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Speaker 4: he knows how Yeah, so he knows how to be

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Speaker 4: a professional outside of the field obviously, but when he

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Speaker 2: And he said in his press conference he's not afraid

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Speaker 2: let the other guy know he out there too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: That can be a good thing if it's goes the

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Speaker 2: right way and helps you play better.

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Speaker 3: Right, I mean, it's a good thing if you can

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Speaker 3: back it up. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And obviously he's been in the league for a while now,

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Speaker 4: he's well respected amongst his peers, So I think, like,

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Speaker 4: if you're willing to chart man, you're willing to kind

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Speaker 3: You got to back it up. And I think Jordan

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Speaker 3: Lewis backs it up.

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Speaker 2: Another big piece of this free agency, all the signings,

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Speaker 2: I think they made about the offensive line for offensive

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Speaker 2: They're gonna do some more work on this at some point,

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Speaker 2: that was a focal point of a lot of contention

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Speaker 3: Years, especially in short yardage.

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Speaker 2: Unable to get things done inconsistency in the passing game

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Speaker 2: up there, some older players. Well, now you're gonna bring

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Speaker 2: some new faces in here. It's gonna make some players uncomfortable,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure, but you gotta get better.

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Speaker 4: There's gonna be some competition, right, and competition always brings

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Speaker 4: out the best in everybody, or if you can't handle it,

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Speaker 4: it's to the wayside, you go. I think we look

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Speaker 4: at what Liam Cohen's trying to do here. You talk

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Speaker 4: a very dynamic offense, was predicated on the run game,

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Speaker 4: Godwin for the year, Mike Evans for a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 4: So what was the calling card of the Tampa Buccaneers.

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Speaker 4: It was Bucky irving in the ability to run the

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Speaker 4: football with those big guys up front. So I think

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Speaker 4: Liam Cohen is obviously a huge fan of offensive lineman

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Speaker 4: guys that I think you can kind of have swing

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Speaker 4: tackles and all of that, and it's something to watch

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Speaker 4: for in the draft as well, because keeping Trevor Lawrence

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Speaker 4: upright being able to run the football, are gonna be

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Speaker 4: two keys to the Draguars this up and coming season.

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Speaker 3: Fifty million a year. You better keep him up right.

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Speaker 3: You better. What happened Andrew Luck? Right? I mean he

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Speaker 3: he was so beat up at Indy. You know what,

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Speaker 3: I'm out of here. I can't do this. Yeah, you

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Speaker 3: don't want that to happen? No, I mean, well, I'm

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Speaker 3: not gonna lie.

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Speaker 4: When we played against the Colts, when I was still

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Speaker 4: play we wanted that to happen.

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Speaker 3: Oh yes, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: Because when you go from Peyton Manning to Andrew Luck Like,

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Speaker 4: it wasn't a good time.

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Speaker 3: JP. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: Like we had Manning, you know Colin, every one of

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Speaker 2: Now, do you have that program framed on the wall?

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Speaker 3: That's what they a lot of times do. Without a doubt.

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Speaker 2: We've got plenty ahead. We'll return in just a moment

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Speaker 2: and get into some of these mock drafts.

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Speaker 3: This mock draft season.

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Speaker 4: It is mock drafts. All about mock draft Sea. We

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Speaker 4: are suckers for mock drafts. On our show JP for sure.

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Speaker 2: Well, we're gonna hit some of the guys that have

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Speaker 2: AM Jaguars dot Com and Jaguars YouTube with Austin Lane.

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Speaker 2: I'm JP Shaddrick and this is Jaguars Happy Hour.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we got ten picks in this year's draft.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna have to have some spots that are actually

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Speaker 5: So you know, if you add a veteran at this

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Speaker 3: We're going to allow these rookies to you know.

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Speaker 5: Get a chance to get out on the field and

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Speaker 2: James Gladstone, the Jaguars general manager, earlier in the right

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Speaker 2: after the start Free agency and welcome back. It's Jaguars

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Speaker 2: Happy Hour in Jaguars Football is presented by Fresh from Florida.

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Speaker 3: It's always in season.

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Speaker 2: JP Shadwick, Jeff logam An out today, Austin Lane is in.

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Speaker 3: I can't talk hunting or fishing. I'm sorry, Thank goodness,

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Speaker 2: No, he'll be back with his next so he's not

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Speaker 2: What do you think of James Gladstone first impressions?

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Speaker 3: I like it.

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Speaker 4: Man. He comes from obviously in the Rams that have

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Speaker 3: I love that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so as he said there, and that was, you know,

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Speaker 2: You know, it's mock draft season. It is mock draft season.

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Speaker 2: Is this your favorite season? Mock draft season?

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Speaker 3: It's one of them. I'm not gonna lie. I mean,

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Speaker 4: You know, if you've been good or bad. It depends

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Speaker 4: But when we talk about mock draft season, I appreciate

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Speaker 4: Ruin's mock draft is the.

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Speaker 3: Best mock draft. Where is it?

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Speaker 4: I mean, people are gonna tell you that, you know

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Speaker 3: Yeah, in Gladstone, we trust in everything.

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Speaker 4: But there's like thirty people right now on Twitter posting

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Speaker 3: That's what you have to do. James.

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Speaker 2: I get you're a genius and all, but I've got

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I know you've been you know, you

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Speaker 3: What I'm talking about.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's beget this one because obviously the Jaguars have

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Speaker 4: So if I'm going at five, you have to ask

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Speaker 4: like the that's like the sexy pick right, Like that's like, hey,

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Speaker 4: this is gonna Jersey sales. I mean, the dude's humble

441
00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:14,520
Speaker 4: is all get up, which makes zero sense to me

442
00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:16,360
Speaker 4: because you're supposed to be like an all Pro at

443
00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:19,200
Speaker 4: wide receiver and an all Pro at cornerback, like two

444
00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:22,639
Speaker 4: ego driven positions, and you're the most humble guy of

445
00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,320
Speaker 4: all time. Like if that was me, I'd be pulling

446
00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:28,000
Speaker 4: up in three Brinks trucks when training camp started. But

447
00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:30,480
Speaker 4: like Travis Hunter, for whatever reason, man that this dude,

448
00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:32,679
Speaker 4: like he's got a great head on his shoulders and

449
00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:35,119
Speaker 4: I like him a lot. Depends where you want to

450
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Speaker 4: play him. But I think if you look at what

451
00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:39,160
Speaker 4: this team needs, you talk about a guy in Campanelli

452
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Speaker 4: who comes from green Bay. If you look at what

453
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Speaker 4: green Bay does, and he comes from the coaching tree

454
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Speaker 4: of Vicvangeo. He was with him in Miami. I played

455
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Speaker 4: for Vic. The cool thing about playing for Vick is

456
00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:54,240
Speaker 4: is as a defensive lineman. Some defensive playbooks were like

457
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Speaker 4: you know, an Encyclopedia Britannica or like a phone book

458
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Speaker 4: from New York, and some playbooks were like just like

459
00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,720
Speaker 4: a like an I hot menu, just pretty pretty low key.

460
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Speaker 2: For young kids listening a full book where all the

461
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Speaker 2: numbers for people were listening.

462
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I forget we're streaming as well. Sorry, man, this

463
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Speaker 4: isn't the radio. Yes, yes, a very thick book nonetheless anymore. Yes,

464
00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,760
Speaker 4: but when we talk about Fangio's defense from a defensive

465
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Speaker 4: line standpoint, it was very simplistic because he always believed

466
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Speaker 4: in rushing four and I think Campanelli believes in that

467
00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,280
Speaker 4: same thing. If you look at last year where the

468
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Speaker 4: Jaguars had some problems, you have two great book nds

469
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Speaker 4: in Trayvon Walker and Joshua Hines Allen. The issue was

470
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Speaker 4: it was the interior push, right, And if the plan

471
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Speaker 4: is to rush four and you're not gonna blitz a lot,

472
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Speaker 4: and you're gonna rely on your secondary to kind of

473
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Speaker 4: different coverages and confuse. You know that it's this set

474
00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:46,880
Speaker 4: offense you're going against, you gotta have interior pass rush.

475
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Speaker 4: And that's where I think Mason Graham comes into play.

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Speaker 2: He he's got everything you want. Yeah, may not have

477
00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:55,960
Speaker 2: the height, but he's got everything else you want. And

478
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Speaker 2: then you may not need that in an interior defensive lineman.

479
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Speaker 3: Right. I mean Aaron Donald was not a tall guy either.

480
00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:03,639
Speaker 4: Aaron Donald was six to one, you know, and that

481
00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:07,119
Speaker 4: was kind of his biggest knock coming out of Pittsburgh

482
00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:08,480
Speaker 4: was the fact that he was a little on the

483
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Speaker 4: shorter side.

484
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Speaker 3: I'm not comparing this guy to Aaron Donald. Hey, I mean,

485
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Speaker 3: if only right. But time will tell, you know, time

486
00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:15,920
Speaker 3: will tell if he's gonna be here.

487
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Speaker 4: But when we talk about Mason Graham, a couple of

488
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Speaker 4: things stand out from you when you watch film on

489
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Speaker 4: this dude, and obviously me being from Wisconsin being a

490
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Speaker 4: big ten guy, I've seen a little bit of Mason Graham.

491
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Speaker 3: I know he brings to the table.

492
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Speaker 4: He almost takes it as an offense if an offensive

493
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Speaker 4: tackle puts their hands on him, like tackles won't be

494
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Speaker 4: able to maintain their blocks very long with this guy,

495
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Speaker 4: just because he's got hand violence, you know. And that's

496
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Speaker 4: something where either you really have it or you don't.

497
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Speaker 4: I had a defensive line coach in Joe Cullen, and yeah,

498
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Speaker 4: I'm sure you know about him a little bit, as

499
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Speaker 4: a lot of Jaguars fans do, probably more yelling at

500
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Speaker 4: me than anything.

501
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Speaker 3: But Joe always had.

502
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Speaker 4: This philosophy where there's three phases to a pass rusher

503
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Speaker 4: or a defensive lineman. There's the get off, there the

504
00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:03,680
Speaker 4: move area, and there's the finish. The get off basically

505
00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:06,000
Speaker 4: is just out of your stance. How quick are you? Well,

506
00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,080
Speaker 4: if you watch Mason Graham on film, he's usually the

507
00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:10,560
Speaker 4: first guy off the ball, so he has that the

508
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Speaker 4: move area, What does that mean? It means in space

509
00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,600
Speaker 4: when someone's past setting on you, what kind of moves

510
00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:17,879
Speaker 4: do you have? What kind of field do you have? No,

511
00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,320
Speaker 4: that's still coming along for Mason Graham. But like that's

512
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Speaker 4: probably the hardest thing to master going from the collegiate

513
00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,640
Speaker 4: level to the pro level. And the last, but not least,

514
00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,360
Speaker 4: is the finish. When when you have the corner, can

515
00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,000
Speaker 4: you finish it? Can you chase down a quarterback that's

516
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Speaker 4: five yards down the field? Mason Graham can do that

517
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Speaker 4: as well. And guess what those things when it comes

518
00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,120
Speaker 4: to finish, when it comes to get off, those are

519
00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:39,840
Speaker 4: hard to coach.

520
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Speaker 3: Either you have them or you don't, and Mason Graham

521
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Speaker 3: has those. In Spain.

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Speaker 2: Let's say, for example, that Travis Hunter's gone, Mason Graham's gone.

523
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Speaker 3: Now what now we're now we're getting interested.

524
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Speaker 4: Now we're getting interesting, right, And I'm assuming that we

525
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Speaker 4: can't trade back right now, we're just gonna go the

526
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Speaker 4: next or what can we trade back?

527
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Speaker 2: Are you're the GM right now, we're gonna call you

528
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Speaker 2: the GM of this exercise.

529
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so you're trading now.

530
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Speaker 4: So I'm probably gonna trade back a little bit and

531
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Speaker 4: try to get some more capital. And that's gonna make

532
00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,320
Speaker 4: your job hard because then you got a couple more guys.

533
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Speaker 4: And I apologize to you to day I apologize to

534
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Speaker 4: day two. No.

535
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Speaker 2: But like everybody says, there's all trade we could trade,

536
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:24,119
Speaker 2: there's rarely trades in the first round, especially true unless

537
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Speaker 2: it's like up to number one. Yeah, there's always talk

538
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:28,520
Speaker 2: about it. We can mock them and all this stuff.

539
00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:30,879
Speaker 2: It's hard to really execute those sometimes, you know.

540
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Speaker 4: I think if we're not talking about a trade, then

541
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Speaker 4: I think we go back to the trenches again. Ah okay,

542
00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,040
Speaker 4: And this is where offensive line comes into play. And

543
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Speaker 4: now keep in mind, I get that you just paid

544
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Speaker 4: Walker little and I get you have Anton Harrison, so

545
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Speaker 4: it looks like, well, you have two tackles that are

546
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Speaker 4: that are short up. But this is how coaches think,

547
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Speaker 4: Like Liam Cohen wasn't here when Anton Walker was drafted.

548
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,440
Speaker 4: Liam Cohen wasn't here when Walker little you know, got

549
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Speaker 4: his new contract.

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Speaker 3: So in my eyes, they sed off a lot to

551
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Speaker 3: proof to Liam Cohne and company.

552
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Speaker 4: Right, So if I'm only if I'm you know, Liam Cohnen,

553
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Speaker 4: if I'm Gladstone and I'm kind of doing like a

554
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Speaker 4: you know, I'm sure they're gonna collaborate.

555
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Speaker 3: A little bit.

556
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Speaker 4: I look at a guy like, I mean, Membu right

557
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,040
Speaker 4: now is the guy that's like shooting up draft boards

558
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:15,919
Speaker 4: because he has speed?

559
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,240
Speaker 3: Right he ran about a four nine four eight.

560
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 4: It's probably fashioning I ran at the combine, which makes

561
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Speaker 4: me feel a little sad now, but it's all good.

562
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 4: So you have member who's kind of like this athletic

563
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,919
Speaker 4: freak coming from the Missouri this is the Missouri tackle.

564
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Speaker 4: And then you have another guy in Will Campbell, where

565
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Speaker 4: I feel like the whole year he was kind of

566
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Speaker 4: towered as the best tackle. Now here's how I think

567
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Speaker 4: about this. I don't out of LSU, by the way, yes,

568
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Speaker 4: and I won't get your opinion of this as well.

569
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Speaker 4: Man Like, do you go with the guy that kind

570
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 4: of put himself on the map due to a good combine,

571
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Speaker 4: or do you go with the guy who's more solidified

572
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Speaker 4: because of what he's done all season.

573
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Speaker 3: I so.

574
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Speaker 2: I go back to where James Gladstone has come from.

575
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Speaker 2: The LA Rams don't really send people to the combine, right,

576
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 2: and I don't know if the Jags will in the future.

577
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 3: Who knows.

578
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 2: The tapes out there. You can look at the times,

579
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,359
Speaker 2: you can look at all that, but I think a

580
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 2: lot of the true evaluation will come from the tape.

581
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 2: From the tape from you know, everything's great.

582
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Speaker 3: In the pre draft process.

583
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Speaker 2: It's a nice evaluation and it might solidify some things

584
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 2: you see on tape, But I think when it comes

585
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Speaker 2: down to the nanny gritty, it goes back to the tape,

586
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,640
Speaker 2: like what did they do in the fall? Yeah, that's

587
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,920
Speaker 2: what I think would go to no, And I agree,

588
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Speaker 2: So that means, okay, maybe Membo's okay, he had a

589
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:40,880
Speaker 2: great combine. Well did he have a great fall? Let's

590
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 2: go back and watch this again exactly. It brings you

591
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,440
Speaker 2: back around and that's important to know too as well.

592
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,439
Speaker 2: Where I think some gms they get so wrapped up

593
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 2: in the numbers, right, Like, I mean, you know, God

594
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 2: rest his soul. At Al Davis was still around I'm

595
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 2: sure Membo would look great in a Raiders jersey, you know.

596
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Speaker 3: What I'm saying.

597
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Speaker 4: But then there's some gms like you just mentioned where

598
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,640
Speaker 4: they're they're concerned more about tape, right And I think

599
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 4: there's sometimes where maybe it's like a small school guy

600
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 4: like I was, where yeah, tape is one thing, but

601
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 4: then you have to show up the combine as well,

602
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,879
Speaker 4: just because you have to reassure that can you handle

603
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Speaker 4: the workload of the NFL.

604
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 3: So everything's different. But I think when we talk.

605
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Speaker 4: About the best tackle out of this class right now,

606
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Speaker 4: I lean a little more towards Will Campbell because I

607
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,399
Speaker 4: think his resume in terms of what he's able to accomplish,

608
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 4: and you know, he didn't lose any stock at the

609
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,920
Speaker 4: combine by any means, I think he would be the guy.

610
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Speaker 2: And it is interesting that, I mean, the Jags apparently

611
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 2: are not going to do any thirty visits, so you

612
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 2: can bring thirty players in this time of year to

613
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Speaker 2: talk to them, you know, they're not doing it, and

614
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 2: I think they're one of I think there's about four

615
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 2: teams that are not doing that. Yeah, So again it

616
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,679
Speaker 2: goes back to the tape and the scouting. You know,

617
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 2: if you really want to talk to you guy, you

618
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 2: probably get them on to zoom and do it. But

619
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Speaker 2: just getting that out of the evaluation, not altogether, but

620
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Speaker 2: not clouding your judgment when it comes to the tape.

621
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Speaker 3: No without that. I think that's the approach. I might

622
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 3: be a little off on that, but that's the feeling

623
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 3: looking at it, and that's what it has to be,

624
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 3: I think. JP.

625
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Speaker 4: You know, when we talk about like the visits and everything,

626
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 4: like listen, I took my fair share of visits. I

627
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 4: visited Buffalo when Tim Tebow was in my draft class,

628
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:14,200
Speaker 4: and you know, I.

629
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Speaker 3: Was like the fifth role, like the fifth Beatle, and.

630
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:20,120
Speaker 4: He was obviously like you know, Paul McCartney and and

631
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,680
Speaker 4: like everybody combined like, oh, Tim Tebow's here, and I'm

632
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 4: just like, yeah, you.

633
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 3: Were there on the same day. That was there the

634
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Speaker 3: same day. It was.

635
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Speaker 4: It was me, Tim Tebow and Brandon Spikes another line. Yeah,

636
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 4: So you have you know, little Austin Lane from you know,

637
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,479
Speaker 4: wherever the heck he's from in Murray State University. Then

638
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 4: you have you know, Captain America and Tim Tebow and

639
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 4: Brandon Spikes.

640
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

641
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 4: I was, you know, I was obviously the sea side

642
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:46,199
Speaker 4: of a lot of those conversations. But I didn't really

643
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 4: learn much, you know when it comes to the business.

644
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:49,200
Speaker 4: Like they got me in front of the board a

645
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,440
Speaker 4: little bit, but it was not that of the combine, right.

646
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 4: So I just think sometimes visits are used more as

647
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Speaker 4: smoke screens than anything.

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Speaker 2: And now there's no smoke at all. There's no smoking.

649
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Speaker 2: You really don't know. I love it. It's even more mysterious.

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Speaker 2: The new season's right around the corner. In the time

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Speaker 2: to get your twenty twenty five season ticket membership Austin.

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Speaker 2: conditioning only. There's a whole new staff and you've got experience.

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Speaker 3: With new strength and conditioning staffs. We're gonna get that

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Speaker 3: out of here, whether you like it or not.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not gonna be snitching out here, but

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Speaker 4: I'll I can give something from me one story. I'll

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Speaker 4: see what I can do We're on tended Excel, Jaguars

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Speaker 4: dot com and Jaguars YouTube.

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Speaker 3: It is Jaguars Happy.

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Speaker 5: Out talking about you know, just doing the culture you know,

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Speaker 5: and being a cornerstone and that that review. And I've

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Speaker 5: always wanted to be a guy to you know, be

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Speaker 5: known for that, you know, be known for a culture

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Speaker 5: and be known to you know, change culture. So I

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Speaker 5: love a good competition and I love a good challenge.

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Speaker 5: So for like, this is the perfect place for me

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Speaker 5: to go out there and show that I belong in

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Speaker 5: the NFL and belonging to be as one, you know,

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Speaker 5: known as one of the guys that you know, changed

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Speaker 5: the culture.

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Speaker 2: Jordan Lewis cornerback from the Cowboys right after signing with

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Speaker 2: the Jaguars.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back.

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Speaker 2: It is Jaguars Happy Hour and attention music fans. The

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five season A Daily's Place is underway. It

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Speaker 2: kicks back off again in May, though Teddy swims May thirty.

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Speaker 2: First team pain Sticks with Kevin Cronin and Don Felder.

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Speaker 3: You've been to Dailies Place Austin.

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Speaker 4: Right at Dahi's place many times at a w there.

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Speaker 4: I've been to many shows, like a bunch of concerts

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Speaker 4: over there. Oh yeah, it's a good time.

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Speaker 3: What's what's your like? What do you listen to before

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Speaker 3: a fight? Oh?

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Speaker 4: Wow, anything and everything, honestly, but with a fight usually

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Speaker 4: you're you're kind of busy like hitting mits and everything,

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Speaker 4: so you know you don't have time to have the

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Speaker 4: headphones on too much. But uh, when I was like

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Speaker 4: playing in the league and everything in the NFL locker room,

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Speaker 4: and this would drive Joel calling insane because when I

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Speaker 4: wore my headphones, you better believe they're cranked up to eleven.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So I was rocking anything from like we're going E

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Speaker 4: d M music, We're going like rock, We're going hip hop,

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Speaker 4: like a little bit of everything, and to the point

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Speaker 4: where Joe call and be like, turn that dang music

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Speaker 4: down a little bit.

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Speaker 3: It's too loud. You know, you know your death.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, we're all good coaches, getting trying to getting

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Speaker 4: in the Bible a little bit. But when when I

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Speaker 4: had my combine, I was probably the most nerves I

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Speaker 4: really been in terms of like getting ready to go perform,

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Speaker 4: right because at the Scouting Combat Combat. I was on

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Speaker 4: the scouting combat in Indie, and you know it's like

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Speaker 4: the underwear Olympics, right, like you're just out there for

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Speaker 4: for all to see, you know, two hundred and seventy

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Speaker 4: whatever pound Austin with you know, some under armours Span

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Speaker 4: dex On and.

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Speaker 3: That's about it.

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Speaker 4: But I actually played a lot of Miley Cyrus part

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Speaker 4: of the USA. It was a big song at the time,

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Speaker 4: and that kind of helped call me down a little

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Speaker 4: bit and dance a little bit. So I think I

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Speaker 4: ran a four to eight at the combine, So, you know,

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Speaker 4: shout out to Miley Syrus for helped me out there.

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Speaker 4: How many reps of the bench press if.

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Speaker 3: You do so?

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Speaker 4: Didn't do the bench press at the combine, but I

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Speaker 4: benched at my protege.

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Speaker 3: I think got twenty one or twenty two. Okay, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's good. It's how it's all. I got these long arms.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. It's tough. Yeah, yeah, I

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Speaker 3: feel the same way. I have the same problem.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the reason I don't do that with Jeff

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Speaker 2: Loggaman out Austin Laney and I'm JP Shatterick.

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Speaker 3: It's Jaguars Happy Hour.

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Speaker 2: We're at the Hyundai Studios on Tintin XL, Jaguars dot

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Speaker 2: com and Jaguars YouTube. April seventh, the offseason program can

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Speaker 2: began for teams with a coaching change. The Jaguars will

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Speaker 2: begin April eighth officially, so that means strength and conditioning

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Speaker 2: for the first couple weeks of the offseason program. And

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Speaker 2: that also means there's a new strength and conditioning staff

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Speaker 2: here as well, Austin and Eric Ciano has been in

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Speaker 2: the league for fifteen years with the Buffalo Bills. He's

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Speaker 2: the director of strength and Conditioning now for the Jaguars.

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Speaker 2: So we always hear about establishing the culture from the

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Speaker 2: head coach. He the offensive scheme and what's the terminology

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Speaker 2: and what happens on defense and everything that goes into that.

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Speaker 3: The special team staff is the same, but hey, this

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Speaker 3: is another side of it.

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Speaker 2: This group, the strength and conditioning staff, are the only

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Speaker 2: ones that can be on the field working with these

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Speaker 2: guys in the first couple of weeks. Yeah, there's some

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Speaker 2: classroom working things that happened. But how much of a

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Speaker 2: challenge is it for Siano, the new strength and conditioning

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Speaker 2: director to establish his program when he hasn't been able

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Speaker 2: to get in front of these guys.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean it's definitely it's gonna be a little challenging.

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Speaker 4: And you know, and especially when we talk about strength

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Speaker 4: and conditioning coaches, right, Like usually if you're a new

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Speaker 4: coach on a new team, you bring in your own guy, right,

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Speaker 4: because you hear things in circles and you want to

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Speaker 4: be comfortable with what you know you can bring in.

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Speaker 4: Siana was in what Buffalo for I think fifteen years

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Speaker 4: or fourteen years, which I think speaks volumes on his

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Speaker 4: resume and what he's all about. Because if you can

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Speaker 4: go through coach after coach after coach like they did

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Speaker 4: in Buffalo for a while, I think that kind of

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Speaker 4: speaks volumes to what you're bringing on the table as

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Speaker 4: your own coach, right. So I think with Siano it's

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Speaker 4: gonna be important because people think that culture is built

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Speaker 4: in training camp, and culture is built you know, maybe

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Speaker 4: in the film room. But like he literally it's his

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Speaker 4: job to get a bunch of essentially strangers in there,

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Speaker 4: a bunch of grown men.

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Speaker 3: To lift weights number one but number two, to.

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Speaker 4: Kind of rally together and be like, hey, this is

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Speaker 4: how we do things and everybody goes about that differently.

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Speaker 2: And then every player has their own plan you have

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Speaker 2: to craft as well. Yes, I mean how does that

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Speaker 2: process start for a new guy coming in leading it?

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Speaker 4: I mean usually if you're a quarterback, like I think

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Speaker 4: I may have saw Blame Gabert twice in the weight

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Speaker 4: room when when I play it now. But you know,

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Speaker 4: the quarterbacks are kind of doing their own thing. It's

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Speaker 4: more mobility and stuff with their shoulders, you know, if

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Speaker 4: you're a big offensive lineman, if you're a defensive lineman,

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Speaker 4: you're throwing the real weight around and everything. But yeah,

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Speaker 4: usually you get divided up into groups and then you

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Speaker 4: just have to go accordingly. And obviously, I mean I've

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Speaker 4: I've been with some absolute monsters in the weight room.

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Speaker 4: One that sticks out to me is Stephen Paya, who

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Speaker 4: was with I was with him in Chicago. I think

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Speaker 4: he at the time he set the combine record for

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Speaker 4: most bench press reps at two twenty five. I want

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Speaker 4: to say it was like forty something, but I remember,

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Speaker 4: like I remember going in there thinking like, all right,

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Speaker 4: I'm pretty strong, you know, I can hold my own

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Speaker 4: and this dude we had an exercise, but we had

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Speaker 4: a bear crawl and then you you do a tress

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Speaker 4: up extension. So for those you know basically right, so

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Speaker 4: bear crawl than that, I'm not sure you've ever done

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Speaker 4: it before.

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Speaker 3: Joe, look at me, hey man, don't assume anyway.

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Speaker 4: So I was using the probably like forty five pounds

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Speaker 4: or whatever for twenty yards. Steven was using one hundred pounds,

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Speaker 4: that's it. And and that put it on perspective of

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Speaker 4: like there's strong and then there's like frequently strong, and

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Speaker 4: he was obviously preciously strong.

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Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, there's.

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Speaker 2: Like we talked about Aaron Donald earlier, right, I mean

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Speaker 2: those some of those and James Harrison, like these guys

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Speaker 2: are just different when it comes to weight training, correct.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And then that's see I think nowadays, like when

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Speaker 4: I played back in the twenty ten twenty eleven, around

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Speaker 4: that time, I almost feel like strength coaches kind of

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Speaker 4: kept things a little more secret, right because you didn't

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Speaker 4: have all these YouTube videos, you didn't have Instagram. It

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Speaker 4: was more of just like the philosophies that you were taught,

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Speaker 4: and you're not gonna shame with anybody else. There's information,

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Speaker 4: there's access to everything now where you can do your

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Speaker 4: own strength program through an NFL team, and dude, we

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Speaker 4: can get you shdded by the time the season starts

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Speaker 4: if we want, not sure if you're in, if we want,

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Speaker 4: if we want, I mean, you have to have to

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Speaker 4: be on board with that. But but now I think

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Speaker 4: it's more about just making sure that you know, it's

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Speaker 4: about building that culture, but making sure that the players

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Speaker 4: are on the same page, right and making sure that

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Speaker 4: you're getting the best out of them, because there's the preseason,

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Speaker 4: there's the spring where it's okay, let's build our strength,

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Speaker 4: let's build our speed, and then probably even more important

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Speaker 4: part is during the middle of the season is making

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Speaker 4: sure we're maintaining but we're not getting.

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Speaker 2: Hurt as well. The technology. You certainly mentioned that, but

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Speaker 2: I don't. I'm gonna guess you didn't have a GPS

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Speaker 2: monitor on you when you were in Jack So the

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Speaker 2: GPS monitor started around then. Yeah, so when I was

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Speaker 2: on my way out when you were coming in. Actually,

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Speaker 2: I think was the first year they implemented the GPS monitors.

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Speaker 2: And it's crazy, like how much science now goes into

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Speaker 2: all this stuff, right, because I still feel like there's

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Speaker 2: some old school guys out there that are like get

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Speaker 2: these computers and you know there's no air weights, it's

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Speaker 2: all real weight and things like that. But you have

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Speaker 2: to be smart now, right, like we're talking about world

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Speaker 2: class athletes, and I think athletes now more than ever

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Speaker 2: pay attention to their bodies, what kind of fuel are

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Speaker 2: they putting into their bodies, how they're taking care of themselves.

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Speaker 2: So it has to be at a premium in terms

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Speaker 2: of how you're going about training these guys. And then

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Speaker 2: I mean from organization, well from one to another might

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Speaker 2: have a different philosophy on what they provide certain and

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Speaker 2: that's why of these grades come out from the NFLPA

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Speaker 2: or correct.

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Speaker 4: And I've had my fair share of strength coaches. I've

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Speaker 4: had Luke richardson his first year here, who actually trained

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Speaker 4: brock Lesner back in the day and in the UFC

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Speaker 4: as well. Brock Lesnar came to visit a little bit

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Speaker 4: with him. He was a really big proponent on more

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Speaker 4: of like the like the air weights, so as opposed

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Speaker 4: to like using like free weights that you see at

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Speaker 4: any kind of gym that you go to. This was

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Speaker 4: more of like the high tech fancy, you know, the

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Speaker 4: air weights they called them. I had Tom Lozinski, former player.

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Speaker 4: This guy was a little more old school, right, like

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Speaker 4: we got all the air compressed machines out of here,

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Speaker 4: and then we go back to like the real weight,

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Speaker 4: you know, and everything like that, which was it was

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Speaker 4: a nice change of pace as well. So I've been

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Speaker 4: around a couple of philosophies, but like I said, I

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Speaker 4: think back in those days, everyone kind of had their

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Speaker 4: own thing. I think as we get more and more

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Speaker 4: towards social media and everyone kind of sharing their ideas,

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Speaker 4: I think it's probably gonna become a little more even

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Speaker 4: of what teams are doing now in the weight room,

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Speaker 4: and it starts back and even high school now they're

874
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:02,240
Speaker 4: doing this stuff.

875
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 2: So kids have been trained with all this from about

876
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 2: fourteen years old all the way up.

877
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:09,399
Speaker 4: I mean, I have a ten year old playing flag

878
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 4: football right now, and and even he knows about like

879
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 4: you know certain and we're just doing body with exercises

880
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 4: until further notice, but like even he's in on it now.

881
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,800
Speaker 3: You know, it's about mobility and flexibility.

882
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 4: I don't know what flexibility was until my third year

883
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 4: in the NFL when I started doing yoga for the

884
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 4: first time. Like it was all about muscles, it was

885
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,800
Speaker 4: all about speed, but like forget flexibility.

886
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 3: But it's a big part of it.

887
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,839
Speaker 2: It certainly is, and they'll have a lot of work

888
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 2: ahead of them starting April eighth, when the Jaguars began

889
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 2: the off season program with a new strength and conditioning staff.

890
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 2: We're back in a moment plenty more ahead as we

891
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 2: wind down on this Jaguars Happy Hour.

892
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 3: I hope what they see is someone who cares.

893
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 6: I hope that shows in my play. I think it

894
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 6: does because I do. I care a lot, care about

895
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 6: my teammates, I care.

896
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 3: About the team. Those are the things that I want

897
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 3: to be evident in my play.

898
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 6: They want to see a guy finishing all the way

899
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 6: of the whistle, picking up his teammates first one dare

900
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 6: to give him.

901
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 3: If I'm not doing that.

902
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 6: Text me, shoot me, tweet me, tell me I'm not

903
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 6: doing it, because that's important.

904
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 3: That stuff's important to me.

905
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 2: It's Robert Hainsey, careful what you wish for, and it

906
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 2: is Jaguars Happy Hour, of course, the new Jags Center

907
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 2: brought on in free agency. Jaguars Happy Hour presented by

908
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 2: Dream Finders Homes, official homebuilder of the Jacksonville Jaguars.

909
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 5: J P.

910
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 3: Shadwick with Austin Lane on this Thursday afternoon.

911
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess the tweeting at players really wasn't a

912
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,280
Speaker 2: thing when you were playing either right.

913
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 4: Now, not so much towards towards the end of my career,

914
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 4: it did become a little bit. I remember one time

915
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,959
Speaker 4: we put the Saints and Drew Brees may have broke

916
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 4: my ankles onto play action and just kind of joked

917
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:02,720
Speaker 4: me out of my shield.

918
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:04,879
Speaker 3: I know, Bree, I don't wry. I end up getting

919
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 3: him back an I didn't get.

920
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 4: A quarterback sack later where he had some choice words

921
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 4: for me, So we were even. But yeah, a lot

922
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 4: of people felt the need to reach out to me

923
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 4: and let me know about Drew Brees breaking my ankle. Okay,

924
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:19,399
Speaker 4: fair enough, wasn't wasn't my happiest moment. Probably not. How's

925
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 4: your bracket? By the way, and a basketball team starts tonight, Yeah,

926
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 4: it's been a lot better. Shout out to Louisville who

927
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 4: had in the final four, first game of the tournament,

928
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 4: they got beat. So I'm like, all right, at least

929
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 4: you're making it really easy on me to not invest myself.

930
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 4: But it's wild for how much basketball that I don't

931
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 4: watch during the regular season, where I think I'm an expert.

932
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,280
Speaker 4: Once the tournament bracket comes out, where I think, okay,

933
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 4: you know, I'm gonna have some sleepers here, I'm gonna

934
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 4: have some quality picks.

935
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 3: I'm hurting right now.

936
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 4: And by the way, my son who's in a so

937
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 4: we're like a hundred team league kind of thing, like

938
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 4: a hundred bracket league. I'm in like ninetieth. My son

939
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,359
Speaker 4: right now is in second place and it's the first

940
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 4: year of playing it.

941
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 3: Wow. And he lets me know about it every single day.

942
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 3: Bet he does. He's fantastic. You know what, what about you?

943
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 3: How's your brother? It's not great. I don't think you know.

944
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 2: We we have to do it for entertainment purposes only here, right,

945
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,439
Speaker 2: So that's that's what it is. I think I picked

946
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 2: Duke because I like coach k but he retired three

947
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 2: years ago.

948
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 3: He's been how much basketball I watch?

949
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's one of those has been

950
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 2: going right now. But Alabama's playing to night. I'm not

951
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 2: a huge basketball fan.

952
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:26,240
Speaker 3: Though. It's a football spring football season. Awesome, come on, man, gotcha,

953
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 3: it is spring football.

954
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 2: It's also now baseball season, and your Milwaukee Brewers are

955
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 2: losing two to one of the Yankees in the top

956
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:32,359
Speaker 2: of the six.

957
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 3: Yep, Brewers got off to a really hot start.

958
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 4: Freddy Peralta on the mound decide to throw just an

959
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 4: absolute lob to the leadoff hitter and it was a

960
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 4: home run in New York. So we're off to a

961
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 4: fantastic start there, Jay, Yeah, big baseball guy. I'm a

962
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 4: big Brewers guy. If the Brewers are doing well, I

963
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 4: could talk baseball all day. If they're bottom of the division,

964
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:53,840
Speaker 4: I never heard of the sport book. They've been pretty

965
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 4: good lately. They've been fantastic lately. Yeah, and they're really

966
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 4: like overachieving in terms of what they have in the roster.

967
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 4: But like this is is kind of like that small

968
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 4: market baseball, right, like where you develop players they do

969
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,840
Speaker 4: really great, then they go to the Yankees or the

970
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:08,359
Speaker 4: Dodgers or the Dodge right Yeah.

971
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they're from Japan, They're going to the Dodgers.

972
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 3: Kind of how it seems to be going right now.

973
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then of course you your last fight in

974
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 2: UFC was what March first, March first, so yeah, four

975
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 2: weeks ago.

976
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:22,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, weeks ago. Yep.

977
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 4: Thankfully didn't get too like beat up in my face,

978
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 4: and anything that wasn't a good fight for me ended

979
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 4: up kind of you know, taking a little bit of

980
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,959
Speaker 4: a gnat. But overall, man had a great first round,

981
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 4: actually dropped my opponent, and the second round just got

982
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 4: a little too uh trigger happy, try to knock them

983
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:38,839
Speaker 4: out and and have you weight.

984
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 3: You make one mistake, it's game over. It's over.

985
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 4: Yeah.

986
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 3: How long does it take to recover from that? It

987
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 3: all depends, you know.

988
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 4: The fight before that probably took me a little longer

989
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 4: because I had to get like seven stitches in the

990
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 4: back of my head from an illegal elbow. I've won

991
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 4: that fight, but that was took a little longer to

992
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 4: recover obviously, just with stitches and everything. But it was

993
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 4: a cool setup because I had to get my jersey

994
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 4: retired at Murray State. So I went back to Murray

995
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 4: State and our athletic trainer that I when I was

996
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 4: there was still there. I'm like, hey, you might have

997
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 4: taken these stitches out of my head, and he goes,

998
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:09,320
Speaker 4: what are you talking about. I'm like, I got stitches

999
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 4: in my head, man, and like, let's try to, you know,

1000
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 4: relive those glory days a little bit. So he ended

1001
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 4: up taking the stitches out outstanding, yeah yeah.

1002
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 2: And then on your daily regimen, like what do you

1003
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 2: do it every day? I mean you're lighter now than

1004
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 2: you were playing football, really.

1005
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So my regiment, man, I'm always trying

1006
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 4: to stay active. And I always say with fighting, you know,

1007
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 4: there really is no off season. It's got to be

1008
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,919
Speaker 4: a lifestyle, right, So I always try to get something

1009
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 4: in the morning, whether it's a run, whether it's like

1010
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,359
Speaker 4: a weightlifting session. And then I always try to get

1011
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 4: something in the afternoon as well. So whether that's you know, mitwork,

1012
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 4: whether that's jiu jitsu, grappling, wrestling, I always try to

1013
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 4: do something on the daily.

1014
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 3: So stay pretty active, you know.

1015
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 2: And I've we've talked about this before, I think on

1016
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 2: the practice field, and I'm always fascinated by the mindset

1017
00:42:55,560 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 2: of MMA, yeah, and how you better flip to switch on, yeah,

1018
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 2: and and what that takes to cross a certain line

1019
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,359
Speaker 2: and be in that threshold and in that arena. Just

1020
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 2: a totally different mindset than a lot of people just

1021
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 2: walking around the street.

1022
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 4: It's such a different mindset. But it's also a different

1023
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 4: mindset than even football itself. Yeah, right, And that was

1024
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 4: kind of like the biggest obstacle that had overcome, right,

1025
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,399
Speaker 4: because in football it's all based off of motion. Right,

1026
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 4: you're talking to the guy who got in a fight

1027
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 4: with montell Owens, like the second day of practice and

1028
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 4: women wearing just helmets, and montell Owens was like the

1029
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 4: nicest dude ever, Right, So so I feel like my

1030
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:35,879
Speaker 4: future was kind of predetermined for me if I'm fighting

1031
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:36,479
Speaker 4: montell Owens.

1032
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 3: Gon a walk through. But you know, with that, like

1033
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 3: with football, it's great because.

1034
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 4: You can let that emotion out right, Like it's a

1035
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 4: physically demanding sport, but every play last what maybe five

1036
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 4: to seven seconds. In fighting, if you go with that

1037
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:51,839
Speaker 4: football mentality where it's like, all right, I'm just gonna

1038
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 4: knock you out, you'll get knocked out.

1039
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 3: Right.

1040
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 4: So if you ever watch a fighter walk in a cage,

1041
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 4: they're always calm, they're always cool, they're always collected because

1042
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 4: you really have to be. And it's weird trying to

1043
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 4: make that walk. And I've made that walk now. If

1044
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 4: I cut my amateur in my pro career, I mean

1045
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 4: like twenty seven times, twenty eight times, and every time

1046
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 4: you make that walk, your mind is telling you like

1047
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 4: I'm going to something dangerous and I shouldn't be doing this.

1048
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 4: And you ask any fight or this, whether they're full

1049
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 4: of machismo or not, they're tell you the same thing.

1050
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 3: If they're telling the truth, there is nerves and there

1051
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 3: is your.

1052
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 4: Mind saying like, we shouldn't be here, we shouldn't be

1053
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 4: doing this, this isn't this is dangerous.

1054
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 3: Right. But then it's.

1055
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 4: Wild how you go from that moment and then you

1056
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 4: get in the cage and you kind of walk around

1057
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 4: a little bit, and then all of a sudden, you're

1058
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 4: like back to regranting yourself of Hey, I've done this

1059
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 4: a million times, I've done this in practice a million times,

1060
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 4: I can do this, and all of a sudden, like

1061
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 4: all that nervous energy just goes away.

1062
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 2: That's crazy, it really is. And when's your next fight?

1063
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 2: How does that work? So now it's kind of the

1064
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 2: waiting game, right. So I signed a four fight deal.

1065
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 2: That was my first fight, was my last fight, was

1066
00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:58,760
Speaker 2: the first fight on a new contract.

1067
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:02,359
Speaker 4: So we got three more fights, hopefully sometime in the summertime. Man,

1068
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,359
Speaker 4: But we'll see, you know, I mean, I'm I'm open

1069
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,839
Speaker 4: to whenever. But it's just you know, it's getting ready

1070
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 4: for the landscape. And that's the cool thing about fighting too,

1071
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 4: is that you can just be yourself with it, you know.

1072
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 4: I Mean there's some guys like the Connor mcgregors of

1073
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 4: the old who want to make it a pacade and

1074
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 4: make it.

1075
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,320
Speaker 3: A giant spectacle, kind of like Rick Flair. More power

1076
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 3: to you.

1077
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 4: I'm more of the guy that's just gonna you know,

1078
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 4: be even keeled, go with the flow and and try

1079
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 4: to knock your head off, you know, and then that's

1080
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 4: what it's gotta be. Yeah, And let's let's get you

1081
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:29,839
Speaker 4: back out there soon. Let's get here man.

1082
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Jags, as we said, will be back out

1083
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 2: there April eighth, the start of the off season program

1084
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 2: owners meetings.

1085
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 3: Help me up next week.

1086
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 2: So down in Palm Beach, the NFL Annual Meeting, there'll

1087
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 2: be a lot of rule changes on the table and.

1088
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 4: A lot of a lot of you know, I'm sure

1089
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Speaker 4: like Hawaiian shirts being worn everything too as well.

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Speaker 3: Probably, So let's go probably some croque on the lawn.

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00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 3: I just saw that one year. And Boca of all things.

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00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the Boca Ratone Club, they have a croquet court, yeah,

1093
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 2: grass or whatever you call it.

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00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know what you'd call that. I don't know.

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00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe so it's like European, right, So I probably

1096
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:08,399
Speaker 2: there either way. So there's that going on. Of course,

1097
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 2: there's meetings, league meetings and everything. The rule changes and

1098
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 2: all that start will start coming out next week and

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00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 2: then hey, the players are in and then it's the

1100
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 2: NFL Draft April twenty four, twenty five, twenty six, at

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00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 2: Green Bay of all places.

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00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and I might go back home for that.

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00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:26,839
Speaker 4: We'll see you're gonna come. I mean, I'm not sure

1104
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 4: like how green Bay is gonna host this whole thing,

1105
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 4: because it is. You've been to Green Bay before, I have.

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00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 4: H Yeah, I'm very curious to what it's gonna look like. Yes,

1107
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 4: I might just go back, just from out of curiosity.

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00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 2: I mean, there's nowhere really to stay there. No, No,

1109
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,439
Speaker 2: there's not many. I'm sure the league scooped up most

1110
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 2: of the places there. I think our crew that we're

1111
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 2: sending there is staying in.

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00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,839
Speaker 4: Like Apples and Yeah, Appleton's like a probably like twenty

1113
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 4: thirty minutes away.

1114
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 3: It's up on a little time to go get a drink.

1115
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 4: I obviously at my mom's house actually, So we're gonna

1116
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,320
Speaker 4: be h re reliving the glory days of being in

1117
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 4: high school again.

1118
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:58,800
Speaker 3: So hopefully she's got my room clean from Maybe you

1119
00:46:58,840 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 3: should go find that pro.

1120
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 4: I can find that program absolutely and bring it back

1121
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 4: to Tony but selling they can feel old again.

1122
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 3: That would be hilarious if you could pull that off,

1123
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 3: see what I can do, that would be great.

1124
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 2: And then on the show, Brenton Austin Britten Austin all

1125
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 2: that strep.

1126
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 3: That was five times. Yep, it's still going man.

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00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I think we're a great combination when

1128
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 4: we talk about the jag just because of you.

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00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 3: I mean, Brent's there, you're the show Well, no, I'm

1130
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:24,359
Speaker 3: not the show man.

1131
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 4: Brent does a great job of keeping us on track

1132
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 4: because it was up to me. Man, we're all over

1133
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 4: the road. So Brent does a great job of keeping

1134
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,799
Speaker 4: me in check, you know, kind of softening my rough

1135
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 4: edges a little bit. But it's a great chemistry that

1136
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:36,840
Speaker 4: we have. We have a lot fun with it and

1137
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 4: check it out sometimes, yeah.

1138
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 3: Check it out? Where can we check it out?

1139
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 4: I mean, I am I allowed to say oh okay, yeah, okay,

1140
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 4: I don't know man, I mean, hey, I'm a freelancer

1141
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 4: man right now. So it's on it's it's on the

1142
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 4: Action Sports Jack's app. But we're also on Twitter, we're

1143
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 4: on YouTube rall around. So just type in Brent and

1144
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 4: Austin you'll find us.

1145
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 3: You can find it. It's always on x I see

1146
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 3: that all.

1147
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 4: It's all well because Brent retweets it like fifty times

1148
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:00,080
Speaker 4: a day. I don't do as much. Probably should a

1149
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 4: little more. That's the name of the game. You got

1150
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 4: to promote yourself. I'm trying that. That's something I'm trying

1151
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 4: to learn how to care about social media again, slowly

1152
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 4: but surely.

1153
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's hard to do.

1154
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 4: Sometimes, especially with the MMA communities too and everything, because

1155
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 4: usually I lose people money, so then they wanted you know,

1156
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,319
Speaker 4: there's a lot of did they feel like people come

1157
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 4: out to be like, hey, you know, I lost three

1158
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,720
Speaker 4: thousand dollars on you, or like I bet one hundred

1159
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 4: dollars on you.

1160
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 3: Better win. Like that's like me going.

1161
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:26,799
Speaker 4: To a dealership and be like, hey, I bet one

1162
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 4: hundred dollars a you're gonna sell a car today.

1163
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 3: I don't know who you are, but like, best of

1164
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 3: luck to you, bro.

1165
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 2: You don't know these people, I got my face smashed it.

1166
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 2: Yeah you think I feel yeah, exactly, Yeah, I know

1167
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 2: I was. I was a meme for my last fight.

1168
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 4: How do you think I feel about you losing a

1169
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 4: couple of hundred bucks on you know, a parlay?

1170
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:47,359
Speaker 2: Sorry funny man, Yeah, people are funny. That's the that's

1171
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 2: the world we live in today.

1172
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 3: All right. So that's what's coming up, the draft coming up?

1173
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 3: All right? So what is your optimist?

1174
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 2: Are you optimistic about the path the Jaguars are on

1175
00:48:58,160 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 2: to close it out today?

1176
00:48:59,280 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 3: Yeah?

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00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 4: I am the because we have really no idea where

1178
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 4: we're Gladstone and company are going to go. But you

1179
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 4: get the sense that it could be a wide receiver

1180
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 4: or it could be an into a defensive lineman. And

1181
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 4: if that's the case, I feel like you can't go wrong.

1182
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 4: If Travis Hunter is going to be there, and I

1183
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:15,320
Speaker 4: feel like you can't go wrong.

1184
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 3: If the Michigan is going to be there.

1185
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 2: How about how about the organization that Liam Cohen is

1186
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 2: putting together here?

1187
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 4: I like it, you know, I mean time will tell, right.

1188
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 4: You still gotta win football games and everything, but I

1189
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 4: think the enthusiasm. I think being able to relate to

1190
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 4: players is a very important thing these days. You saw

1191
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 4: how devastated they were. Sorry Tampa, but you saw how

1192
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 4: devastated they were when he left and everything. So I

1193
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 4: think that's gonna be a good sign of, you know,

1194
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 4: getting the best out of these guys in lockers.

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00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 3: It seems so overblown to me. What's that? I know?

1196
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 4: And then you have to ask permission from Tampa. I

1197
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:50,760
Speaker 4: guess if you want to play in Orlando.

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00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 3: It is what I was hearing.

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Speaker 2: We're talking some of I think there's some of that,

1200
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 2: but like it's what it is. There's certain rules of

1201
00:49:56,719 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 2: that stuff. Yeah, but the whole dramatic Oh, he's we're

1202
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 2: mad at him for leaving, I know.

1203
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 3: I mean, the dude made a business decision. Man.

1204
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:06,439
Speaker 4: Look it's a visit at the end of the day.

1205
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:09,319
Speaker 4: I mean, it's wild for what he gave you all.

1206
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 4: You should be thankful.

1207
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Speaker 3: But we'll take him, certainly, will Austin. Great job, man,

1208
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 3: great see you. Thanks for having me. It's been a

1209
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 3: time and a half. Appreciate you.

1210
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 4: It's been an hour in fact, very fast beats three hours.

1211
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 4: Beat the three hours with Martino every day.

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00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 2: Let's do it again, Austin Lane bab Shadrick thanks to

1213
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 2: Joe Fortune Auto and Brent Reaver, and thanks to you

1214
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Speaker 2: for listening to the Jaguars Happy Hour