Speaker 1: And That's what you really missed with Jenna.
Speaker 2: And Kevin an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 1: Welcome to and That's what You're the most podcast. Hello Kevin.
Speaker 1: It's a big day, Happy Wicked, Wicked Weekend.
Speaker 2: Happy Wicked for Good weekend, Wicked everywhere. It is like
Speaker 2: the premiere was really close to where I live last week.
Speaker 2: Oh it really in pink and green. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So John stood like Colgate with them like on the broom,
Speaker 3: like like toothpaste, and he was like sure, Like we.
Speaker 2: Really, I mean I feel like, you know, when Barbie
Speaker 2: came out, the brand deals were like we had never
Speaker 2: seen anything like that.
Speaker 1: I think we've never seen put that shame No, truly,
Speaker 1: I think it was like one hundred and forty or
Speaker 1: hundred thirty seven partnerships. It's crazy, get your money, you know. Okay,
Speaker 1: well we are. This is Wicked for Good Weekend. Wicked
Speaker 1: premiered on November twenty first, twenty twenty five. We both
Speaker 1: saw it this past weekend opening weekend. Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2: You know, before we even say anything, I love an event.
Speaker 2: I you know, I love a big event. I love
Speaker 2: when people get excited to go to the movies, to
Speaker 2: like go experience something together and the fact that this
Speaker 2: is such an event, like especially for a musical. Musicals
Speaker 2: are not that popular at the movies, and it's it
Speaker 2: is really nice that this has happened.
Speaker 1: I mean I went to the AMC Universal City Walk
Speaker 1: and it was the Christmas Tree, like the Wicked Christmas Tree,
Speaker 1: and then inside were the costumes. So it was Cynthia's
Speaker 1: robes and also the Glinda dress, the gown ooh, pretty downs,
Speaker 1: the beautiful gowns, gowns, beautiful gowns. She's they're both tiny,
Speaker 1: they're so small. But it was a lovely experience. So
Speaker 1: in the news, the Fate of Ophelia by Taylor Swift
Speaker 1: is number one.
Speaker 2: Damn yeah.
Speaker 1: So and uh, the movie is Wicked for good.
Speaker 2: I mean, it broke all kinds of records. It broke
Speaker 2: the first movies records. It's it has made it over
Speaker 2: like two hundred and thirty million dollars opening weekend worldwide
Speaker 2: or something. It's it's crazy. Yeah, oh yeah, two hundred
Speaker 2: and twenty six million worldwide.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Glea Casses continues to take over New York City. Kellen Kevin,
Speaker 1: you're in still in spelling Bee and chest just you
Speaker 1: both just opened, Darren is back in Maybe Happy Ending,
Speaker 1: Alex just opened in Chicago, Groff is just in time,
Speaker 1: Kristin Chenna with Is and Queen of Versailles. I saw
Speaker 1: you had many friends come with you this weekend, Kevin
Speaker 1: at the Bee.
Speaker 2: We did Chris Cofer with Will. It was so sweet.
Speaker 2: I was like, do you want to be a guest speller.
Speaker 2: He's like, nope, no, But you.
Speaker 1: Did actually have a very special guest speller this weekend.
Speaker 1: You had the one and only Harry Potter.
Speaker 2: We had Daniel Radcliffe.
Speaker 1: What a sweet man.
Speaker 2: And it was a crazy time. The fire alarm went
Speaker 2: off in the building. So we're at New World Stages.
Speaker 2: There are five different theaters within one building, so if
Speaker 2: the fire alarm goes off, everybody has to stop the
Speaker 2: show and go outside and all your shows. All the
Speaker 2: shows stopped, and we were right at the end. I
Speaker 2: Love You song was just starting. Oh like Lily got
Speaker 2: out her first Wow.
Speaker 1: Crazy. We love live theater.
Speaker 2: But it was it was an adventure every you know,
Speaker 2: nothing was wrong, the fire department showed up, it was
Speaker 2: all safe. But Daniel Radcliffe is just an excellent sport.
Speaker 2: What a kind person. I had never met him before.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, he had never seen the show before. Wow,
Speaker 2: he knows Leanna who plays Marshy Park because they were
Speaker 2: and merrily together with Craft and so he evacuated with
Speaker 2: us and just a sweet sweet man.
Speaker 1: You know, did he get bombarded?
Speaker 2: The crowd went crazy for him. We sort of ran
Speaker 2: security for him, you know, yeah, for sure, we were
Speaker 2: trying to keep him safe. But he hung out with us.
Speaker 2: And I love when somebody like that too, because he's
Speaker 2: a theater boy. He has always he's done theater for
Speaker 2: decades now, and like he wanted to come in and
Speaker 2: not know anything about the show and he was one
Speaker 2: of the guest spellers and just had He's like, if
Speaker 2: I had known there was dancing, I would not have
Speaker 2: done that.
Speaker 1: Well, that's the joy. It was great, how fun. This
Speaker 1: is directed by John M. Jew Obviously, this is part
Speaker 1: two the screenplays when he Holtzman and Dana Fox.
Speaker 2: Yes, And like we said before, it's based stuff that
Speaker 2: he doesn't three musical by Stephen Shore so many Holtzman,
Speaker 2: which is also based off of Gregor McGuire's nineteen eety
Speaker 2: five novel Wicked, which again I did read last year
Speaker 2: and choarographed and choreographed by Chris Scott, and it's a
Speaker 2: reimagining of L. Frank Baum's nineteen hundred classic The Wonderful
Speaker 2: Wizard of Oz and the nineteen thirty nine film. It's
Speaker 2: all of those things in one.
Speaker 1: Okay, before we get into too deep into this, Kevin, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just need everybody to take a deep breath, because
Speaker 1: I came out of that theater and the two people
Speaker 1: in front of me like they did Cynthia so dirty
Speaker 1: with her song, and oh they tried to expand the world,
Speaker 1: but like they didn't need it, and ah blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, look the fact that a musical is
Speaker 1: so being recognized worldwide to this scale and degree, the number,
Speaker 1: we have an Asian director, we have a diverse cast
Speaker 1: from a story about two, three, four very strong, flawed
Speaker 1: female characters at the home. We have breaking box office
Speaker 1: breaking records. We have the part one which was stupendous
Speaker 1: with high regard and accolades galore. And the expectation is
Speaker 1: so high, and this, to me is reminiscent of when
Speaker 1: somebody gets too high up in the industry, there's nowhere
Speaker 1: else but to take them down. So I'm just asking
Speaker 1: everybody to just take a deep in breath because it's wicked.
Speaker 1: There's great songs. They're not as good as Part one.
Speaker 1: But as long as you're mine, no good deed for
Speaker 1: good even Girl in the Bubble, which might be a
Speaker 1: hot take, but let's just let's just celebrate that. I
Speaker 1: understand there was you know, my opinions will come out,
Speaker 1: but as long as you're mine, and then we just
Speaker 1: hit astride. Okay, we got back into the show, the
Speaker 1: act that we know, the play that we know, the
Speaker 1: musical that we know. I'm curious to hear from you, Kevin,
Speaker 1: like what they pulled from the novel and the book
Speaker 1: prior to that came back in because it was a
Speaker 1: lot more of the animals and else of the story
Speaker 1: about the animals, and I was like, that had to
Speaker 1: be in the book, and if not, they ate it up.
Speaker 1: So I'm curious because, like, I see what they were
Speaker 1: trying to do, which is what we talked about in
Speaker 1: the first one, was expanding the world, expanding the character development,
Speaker 1: expanding all of that. Like, but I'm just gonna I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna like take a deep breath. I enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: I enjoyed everybody's performances. I thought the world was still there.
Speaker 1: I thought the girls were remarkable. They were so good,
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, really solid, really solid. I'm not
Speaker 1: hating on it. I'm not bringing it down. Like they
Speaker 1: obviously loved this, they loved making it. It's part of it,
Speaker 1: Like I, I appreciate it, and I'm just I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna get off the soapbox now.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 2: I think that's good. And that's also I always need
Speaker 2: to be reminded of those things. You know, I'm a
Speaker 2: critical bitch.
Speaker 1: It's not a bad thing, but it's just sometime but
Speaker 1: sometimes it's not about that, right, you know, right, right? Well,
Speaker 1: I also think all of these things can coexist. I
Speaker 1: think I do think so. A lot of the complaints too,
Speaker 1: were like I hate that they broke it up into
Speaker 1: two movies, and that's been coming up a lot.
Speaker 2: I've had a lot of conversations the past week about that,
Speaker 2: and it gets clearly just a cash grab, and I'm
Speaker 2: like that. I I hard disagree with that because the
Speaker 2: first movie, I enjoyed the pacing, I enjoyed living in
Speaker 2: that world. Sure do I think some of those scenes
Speaker 2: could have been shortened, and you could have probably taken
Speaker 2: out twenty minutes maybe sure, but like that's not like
Speaker 2: a deal breaker for me at all. With that first movie.
Speaker 2: This movie, it probably could have been an hour and
Speaker 2: a half. Yeah, I do think that. I do think
Speaker 2: it could have been tightened, But like I do think
Speaker 2: there is enough there too, you know, be deserving of
Speaker 2: its own movie. Act two is historically not as good
Speaker 2: as Act one. It has some like you said.
Speaker 1: My argument is that if you were to make this
Speaker 1: one movie, Act one would have had to be less
Speaker 1: an Act one being as good, or the part one
Speaker 1: of the movie being as good as it was was
Speaker 1: because it had the space. Yes, if Act two was
Speaker 1: crushed into Pact one, then it wouldn't We wouldn't have
Speaker 1: had that in part one and the movie would have
Speaker 1: been lost, right Yep.
Speaker 2: I thought this movie really found its stride probably about
Speaker 2: halfway through. Yes, I think when it got to Know
Speaker 2: Good Deed, all of a sudden was like, okay, oh
Speaker 2: we're in it.
Speaker 1: One song before I was thinking as long as your mind,
Speaker 1: and I was like, all right, here we are, We're back.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I think until that point it was like
Speaker 2: a little clunky to me. Yeah, And it was it
Speaker 2: was a little weird adjusting into the characters, you know,
Speaker 2: years later where we left Alpha Ba being this like
Speaker 2: badass writing, you know, on her broom away, and then
Speaker 2: we come back sort of in like this strange, strange
Speaker 2: place there was there was a couple of things. I
Speaker 2: was like, what what's happening? It almost felt like like
Speaker 2: it was shot years later, even though it was shot
Speaker 2: back to back, you know what I mean, like like
Speaker 2: that sort of thing. But something happens all of a
Speaker 2: sudden when for me, when it gets to no Good Deed, I.
Speaker 1: Found it tried. It really did so in the in
Speaker 1: the in the musical right, and I may make some
Speaker 1: mistakes here, but thank goodness number one is my favorite song.
Speaker 1: So thank goodness that that was so good because we
Speaker 1: love that number.
Speaker 2: And they I think in a whole bunch of like
Speaker 2: really cool musical elements. I think in the beginning in
Speaker 2: all those songs, there's a lot of new things. How
Speaker 2: did you feel about those? I didn't.
Speaker 1: I mean again, like I thought that was great, Like
Speaker 1: I didn't. It didn't bother me. It didn't feel out
Speaker 1: of context. It felt like it was part of the world.
Speaker 1: So like none of that felt like it was forced.
Speaker 1: I'm into it. I'm totally I was totally into it.
Speaker 1: It didn't bother me. The no place like home felt
Speaker 1: out of place because I had never heard it before.
Speaker 1: And that whole story of her with Dulcibet and the
Speaker 1: animals leaving because they felt like there was no other
Speaker 1: escape in her trying to like corral them back to
Speaker 1: fight together. I understand it. It just didn't hit like.
Speaker 1: It just didn't And I was I was curious, Like
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I can't wait to talk to
Speaker 1: Kevin about this, like with the animals, and like, was
Speaker 1: that part of the book.
Speaker 2: The animal not that scene, m but the animals were
Speaker 2: the main driving force for alphabets story.
Speaker 1: In the book, and I got that in the musical.
Speaker 1: But this is really they've really like expanded on it,
Speaker 1: and it just felt like.
Speaker 2: It's like a double edged sword with some of these
Speaker 2: expansion things in the story. Because I liked that they
Speaker 2: added more of the animal stuff, I also think it
Speaker 2: then created more like plot issues. Yes, and I think
Speaker 2: that raised a lot more questions in this movie, and
Speaker 2: then like only a couple of them got answered.
Speaker 1: The way I was thinking about it was like weiked
Speaker 1: went through an assortment of versions and workshops.
Speaker 2: Right, I had the same thought, Yeah, keep going, there's
Speaker 2: a reason.
Speaker 1: Why those pieces weren't in the musical. There's a reason
Speaker 1: why that wasn't included in the musical. Time not the necessity,
Speaker 1: not really necessarily, it doesn't you don't need it, right,
Speaker 1: so putting it I don't know the process, you know,
Speaker 1: come for me, but like it seems like trying to
Speaker 1: expand the world and bringing in those pieces this is
Speaker 1: again we're cut out for a reason. They weren't brought
Speaker 1: initially for a reason.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, well, I think you have more time
Speaker 2: to do that, Like, and I was interested in seeing
Speaker 2: the expansion of the world in that way. What I
Speaker 2: don't think it needed was the song.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 2: And I think to your point is like when and
Speaker 2: we've talked about this, and there are obviously exceptions to this,
Speaker 2: but I think it's a big uphill battle to put
Speaker 2: in new songs into an established musical where things have
Speaker 2: been workshopped, things have been thought about for years before
Speaker 2: they ever seen the light of day, and then adding
Speaker 2: in new music generally, I think feels a bit hollow
Speaker 2: and you can tell the songs were written in a
Speaker 2: different time, Yes, agreed, and especially if they're not moving
Speaker 2: the plot forward, right, and I feel like these I
Speaker 2: know you like Girl on the Bubble.
Speaker 1: I did because I don't think that like Alphabet has
Speaker 1: an eleven o'clock number. This is a two hander, even
Speaker 1: though Alphabet is technically the lead the No Place Like Home, Sure,
Speaker 1: and are right, maybe Real in the Bubble doesn't move
Speaker 1: the plot, but she doesn't get her second act number.
Speaker 2: I thought Girl in the Bubble had more purpose than
Speaker 2: No Place, No Place Like Home felt these The lyrics
Speaker 2: of both of these songs were like very on the nose.
Speaker 2: We're telling you exactly how we're feeling. There's no nuance
Speaker 2: or depth to like what's really going on, and they're
Speaker 2: just explaining things that they are currently feeling. Yeah, like
Speaker 2: as an observer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, And for sure.
Speaker 2: I did enjoy Girl in the Bubble more. I think
Speaker 2: for the reasons you probably did as well. Yeah, like
Speaker 2: that and getting to see into her. We do know
Speaker 2: more about Alphaba. I think, like how she's feeling, We're.
Speaker 1: Like what's driving her and what like, yes.
Speaker 2: Where it sort of felt like a hat on a hat. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the scene with the animals already did that. Yes, Yes,
Speaker 2: like having Dolci Bear come back and having that conversation
Speaker 2: and all of that, like that was really meaningful. I
Speaker 2: do have to say that the random assortment of like
Speaker 2: six monkeys flying in and like hearing it and then bouncing,
Speaker 2: I'm like, where did that come from? Why are we
Speaker 2: just and then you know, and then it's like so
Speaker 2: then you're also here's like you're presenting that there's like
Speaker 2: this underground tunnel system. But then when Alphaba gets out
Speaker 2: later on and the animals is all of a sudden back,
Speaker 2: you're now telling me nobody saw Alphaba sneaking out to
Speaker 2: the tunnels because the animals came back.
Speaker 1: Well, they came back, but there has to be some.
Speaker 2: Exchange here of that's that's a very minor that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that doesn't but that's what I mean by like, if
Speaker 2: you're going to expand it, you gotta I think there's Yes,
Speaker 2: you know, what we didn't do is tell people where
Speaker 2: we were in the movie. So a little synopsis. Alphaba
Speaker 2: obviously is hated by everybody, is living in exile in
Speaker 2: this like beautiful little villain.
Speaker 1: She's literally crafted as the villain, yes, and she's trying
Speaker 1: to help you know, free the animals and fight for
Speaker 1: their rights, and it's being silenced by the Wizard and
Speaker 1: by Metamorble. Glinda has now become like the symbol of
Speaker 1: goodness all around Oz, living in the palace in the
Speaker 1: e World city and reveling in the perks of fame
Speaker 1: and popularity. Under the instruction of Madame Morrible, Glinda is
Speaker 1: deployed to as an effervescent comfort to Oz, reassuring the
Speaker 1: masses that all as well. And then Glinda's you know,
Speaker 1: getting married to Fierro, and Nessa Rose is now the
Speaker 1: governess of munchkin Land, and ye, craziness ensues. So there's
Speaker 1: a lot going on, and they have to set up
Speaker 1: a lot and cover a lot, and then there's the
Speaker 1: whole Wizard of Oz story of putting Dorothy in there
Speaker 1: and getting tin Man and Scarecrow. And there's a scene
Speaker 1: early on where Fierro finds out he's engaged to Glinda, right,
Speaker 1: she's the good She's in a town speaking to the people.
Speaker 2: With Madame Morrible, and they have this like an aside
Speaker 2: to goodness, yes during thank goodness, and you see what's
Speaker 2: really going on, and because you're you know, there's this
Speaker 2: whole thing of like, is everybody so an effled? Besides?
Speaker 2: Secretly is Glinda and are Glenda and Fierro like so
Speaker 2: with it here? And they have just like really, I
Speaker 2: thought Jonathan Bailey did such a great job acting in
Speaker 2: this movie overall.
Speaker 1: Jonathan Bailey for the win Erroo for the win.
Speaker 2: I think he does. He doesn't have a lot to do,
Speaker 2: but he doesn't make a meal out of it, and
Speaker 2: he's not like hamming it up. He's not trying to
Speaker 2: like good, he's yes, he is very good.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: In that scene, it really sets up for me what
Speaker 2: we can expect, not not only from their story, but
Speaker 2: how they're playing this.
Speaker 1: Like the conflict of like, you know, what do you
Speaker 1: want me to do? How do you want me to
Speaker 1: how would you want me to perform us or do?
Speaker 2: Like because they're both both of those characters are in
Speaker 2: public facing yes, like public facing jobs. Yeah, and then
Speaker 2: you have their inner person, but you don't really get
Speaker 2: to see inner Fierro because this story is not about him, right,
Speaker 2: And so that really that quick little scene with them,
Speaker 2: you see like, oh once, since that first movie, his
Speaker 2: interaction with Alphaba, he's been on this ride of changing
Speaker 2: for a guess if you will and has never looked back,
Speaker 2: where Glinda is more complicated. Glinda's a messy character. Both
Speaker 2: of these characters are really messy. In the book Alphabet sucks,
Speaker 2: to be honest, they both sort of suck like things
Speaker 2: are happening to them and around them, and they sort
Speaker 2: of just make everything worse. Like that's sort of the vibe.
Speaker 2: And I do like their development in this.
Speaker 1: Kudos to Winnie then for creating. Yes, they're messy. That's humans, right,
Speaker 1: We're flawed, we are driven, and we are flawed, and
Speaker 1: but we are layered and like I and human and
Speaker 1: so I like I particularly like Elpha Ben the first act,
Speaker 1: but then I particularly like Glinda in the second act. Yes,
Speaker 1: because the arc is so clear and yet so dynamic, and.
Speaker 2: She's just not like you know, Fiera's like you you
Speaker 2: couldn't say no to this, like you know who could?
Speaker 2: But you can't. And she's like, well, she's like who can.
Speaker 2: He's like, well, you know who can? And it's not Ye,
Speaker 2: it's not as clear cut.
Speaker 1: And like she can't she can't, but she also like
Speaker 1: she knows she isn't. Like that's the part of it
Speaker 1: where she's like they're like you're so good and she's
Speaker 1: like not yet, and I'm like yes, Like she's gonna
Speaker 1: make it right. She's going to figure it out. She
Speaker 1: knows she's made some mistakes and she's owning up to
Speaker 1: that in that one line, like yeah, I know. Like
Speaker 1: that's the dynamic of Glinda that I love. Is that,
Speaker 1: Like even when Kristin was doing it, you're like, well,
Speaker 1: she's a public figure, she's greedy, she's taking the spotlight
Speaker 1: and yeah she's still friends with Elfhi and like blah
Speaker 1: blah blah. But this world where you get to see
Speaker 1: the development more and Ariana, like you get to see
Speaker 1: the beauty of like her acting out in like or
Speaker 1: showing us the awareness she has about what her actions are,
Speaker 1: like how her actions are having consequences on everybody, but
Speaker 1: yet also like still innately good. Right, She's gonna make
Speaker 1: it right.
Speaker 2: Well hopefully, And I think that's like the beauty of it,
Speaker 2: Like you don't the proximity she has too, like the
Speaker 2: really evil people like Madam Morble and the Wizard, right,
Speaker 2: like that feels like okay, she's sort of like this
Speaker 2: spy and cahoots and like she's keeping a closeness to them,
Speaker 2: because it's also in a way protecting Alphaba because she's
Speaker 2: also still in contact with Alphaba and cares deeply about
Speaker 2: Alpha Ba, so like if she knows like keep your
Speaker 2: mean's close kind of thing, but she's also benefiting from it, right,
Speaker 2: And it feels tricky. It feels like an allegory for
Speaker 2: like race in America, or it feels like, well, you
Speaker 2: as like the pretty white girl can still benefit from
Speaker 2: like the bad actions that are affecting like the minority communities.
Speaker 1: And yet look at how Alphaba's been shut out and Alpha.
Speaker 2: Was being you know, looked at villainized, villainized, and she
Speaker 2: actually has all the power and the talent, right, and
Speaker 2: yet you're the one who's like mediocre at every single step.
Speaker 2: You're just like more successful and more successful and literally
Speaker 2: living high in the castle. Yeah yeah, yeah, but you know, ultimately,
Speaker 2: the one thing she wants is friendship and piero and love,
Speaker 2: and she's not getting those things right, right, And there
Speaker 2: was there was some thing in the story like coming
Speaker 2: into it I and I talked to people about it,
Speaker 2: and like the thing that always rubs some people the
Speaker 2: wrong way is like Alphaba towards the end of this
Speaker 2: is like she gets the man runs off, Like is
Speaker 2: she really a girl's girl in that way? Because it's like, wait,
Speaker 2: she just took this guy. It's like that's not the
Speaker 2: story to me. No, not at all, And like I've
Speaker 2: read a lot of complaints about that really, and I
Speaker 2: was like, no, i'man Fierro didn't really want to be
Speaker 2: with Glinda ever, No, and Glinda sort of sees in
Speaker 2: that scene I thought Ariana did it. That standoff scene well,
Speaker 2: m hmm. I thought was maybe Ariana's best seen in
Speaker 2: the entire movie YEP, where Fierra comes in, puts the
Speaker 2: gun at her face and then she sees, you know,
Speaker 2: once she gets Alfie gone, like saves her somehow, Well
Speaker 2: he does. Fierro saves Elfie and then she's Glinda tries
Speaker 2: to say Fiero and it's like he didn't mean it,
Speaker 2: and it hits her that that moment of Oh, he
Speaker 2: loves her, That's why he did it. He never was
Speaker 2: going to harm me. It was like a really really
Speaker 2: beautiful Well.
Speaker 1: It's easy because if you're it was, it really was,
Speaker 1: And it's easy as a as a fan of the
Speaker 1: show and all of that to assume that everybody knows that,
Speaker 1: and Glenna knows that, but like to be you know,
Speaker 1: for her as a character to have that kind of
Speaker 1: finite detail of like, right, not everybody knows this, and
Speaker 1: I as a character don't know that yet like having
Speaker 1: that turn right.
Speaker 2: Well, because because that's the thing with her, you don't
Speaker 2: know where she stands. You never like ditsy, and you
Speaker 2: don't know how much of it is real. It's like, well,
Speaker 2: a lot of it seems to be. She is kind
Speaker 2: of titsy, good heart, but also self aware. Yes, when
Speaker 2: he's presented with things, Yes, she takes it in. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, like she knows what's up, but like she
Speaker 2: can sort of live with blinders on for as long
Speaker 2: as a privileged life. Yep, exactly. Speaking of that scene
Speaker 2: they're on the Yellow Brick Road, how did you like,
Speaker 2: you know, the whole movie opens up on them, you know,
Speaker 2: building the yellow Brick Road and having with the animals
Speaker 2: and doing a kick flip back onto the you know,
Speaker 2: but I did like seeing it being built, step.
Speaker 1: The world up, you know, setting the world up here. Okay,
Speaker 1: we're reintroducing her versus just reintroducing her, and like the
Speaker 1: burning which you know, yeah, again, it didn't bother me.
Speaker 1: I like, it didn't. I didn't notice it, right, And
Speaker 1: sometimes in the things that we notice, it's not always good,
Speaker 1: and sometimes the things we don't notice is good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't know.
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, like the animals can't speak,
Speaker 1: like not everybody knows this musical.
Speaker 2: That well, So we saw the movie last night and
Speaker 2: then a few of us were talking who went to
Speaker 2: go see it? And I don't think they really answer
Speaker 2: it in the movie. And I don't remember them, I
Speaker 2: mean in the stage show. And I don't think they
Speaker 2: answer it in the book. Really, I could be misremembering.
Speaker 2: Why do the animals lose the ability to speak? The
Speaker 2: is that ever?
Speaker 1: It's again, people are gonna be listening to us and
Speaker 1: be like yelling at us because I don't remember. But
Speaker 1: when they're caged, they lose their ability.
Speaker 2: So when they're caged, they lose their ability because they're like.
Speaker 1: Not able to be there, which is why I think
Speaker 1: they brought the cages back in when she sees it
Speaker 1: before the wedding, mm hmmm, because I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's the wizard, but the wizard can't he's not magical, right, Yes,
Speaker 1: it's putting them in cages.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're putting the cages because do.
Speaker 1: You remember the cub, the lion Cub was putting in
Speaker 1: a cage at a very young age, and so he
Speaker 1: was never able to figure it out until she released him.
Speaker 1: He was like to.
Speaker 2: Remove okay, so removing their freedom. So when they don't
Speaker 2: have freedom, they revert back to like sort of being.
Speaker 1: A yeah, yeah, okay. So the other thing that's happening
Speaker 1: is that Nessa Rose has become their father has died,
Speaker 1: and Nessa has become a governor the east. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: and Bach and her are still together. Black has come
Speaker 1: becomes some version of a like an undersecretary. He's an
Speaker 1: assistant to rather than a love interest and a romantic partner. Right, yes, that,
Speaker 1: but he has never again like never really wanted to
Speaker 1: be in that position and in love with her and
Speaker 1: kind of got too far down the road.
Speaker 2: And you know what's about this is all these characters
Speaker 2: are messy. Every single character is messy, but.
Speaker 1: Like all have wants and desires and they're clear, and
Speaker 1: like he's going to go back and tell like, you know,
Speaker 1: he's gonna leave Nessa finally and go tell Glinda, call
Speaker 1: off the wedding, tell his whole you know, confess his
Speaker 1: love after all this time. And of course Nessa is
Speaker 1: angry at Alphaba because she didn't come back for the
Speaker 1: father of their father's death. Why would she? Her father
Speaker 1: was terrible to her. But Nasa has become hard and
Speaker 1: so uh. Alphabet visits Nessa and this is where we
Speaker 1: learn about the magical Slipper, the ruby slippers, that is,
Speaker 1: the two wizard of Oz and the.
Speaker 2: That when you interviewed her.
Speaker 5: Yes, we also talked about the shift in and collaboration
Speaker 5: in the story where Nessa walks in the Her dream
Speaker 5: is that why have you not helped me?
Speaker 1: You've helped everybody else, Why have you not helped me?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: And Alphaba's fight is I've always helped you, I've done
Speaker 1: everything for you, and it's still never enough.
Speaker 2: Which is like a very real that I thought that
Speaker 2: like Alfaba is straight up just like Alphaba in Wicked
Speaker 2: the musical, I like so much more than the Alphaba
Speaker 2: and the book, by the way I think how they
Speaker 2: adapted her into I think she's such like a wonderful
Speaker 2: character and is good and is doing so much good
Speaker 2: and clearly everything is just being villainized where like everyone
Speaker 2: around her no good deed is taking advantage of her,
Speaker 2: and like Nessa.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, at every turn it is.
Speaker 2: Never enough, and it's like I also like that like
Speaker 2: Nessa is a complicated mess, like.
Speaker 1: Yes, another complicated female character in this and like not.
Speaker 2: Likable and nice. So when you were talking to her
Speaker 2: about obviously like the choice to change, it to her
Speaker 2: floating like she was in the dance floor with box.
Speaker 1: So there was a lot of feedback that Marissa said
Speaker 1: from the disabled community about that moment where Nasa walks yeah, right,
Speaker 1: or her has the desire to be fixed yep. And
Speaker 1: so the collaborative thing was I think she had said
Speaker 1: that Winnie came back and had wanted to make it
Speaker 1: right in this and having a second chance, right, like
Speaker 1: not everybody gets that to make things right. So in
Speaker 1: the film, she alpha the spell that from the grimmery
Speaker 1: she casts on Nassa. It focuses they made the choice
Speaker 1: instead of walking to have Nessa fly in the air.
Speaker 1: And I didn't see the trailer, so I watched this
Speaker 1: for the first time in the movie and I thought
Speaker 1: it was wonderful and it was it's focusing the shift
Speaker 1: away from fixing the disability toward the emotional experience of
Speaker 1: the magic itself, which then ironically is actually not the
Speaker 1: thing that's going to fix NASA's deep rooted wounds and
Speaker 1: you know issues.
Speaker 2: Well that was my question about. So it's like she
Speaker 2: floats temporarily, yeah, and then comes back down, like why
Speaker 2: didn't the spell last? Or like why isn't she able
Speaker 2: to then float whenever she wants after that, they obviously
Speaker 2: need her not to be floating when that house comes
Speaker 2: down on her.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I think I think it was still very
Speaker 1: early in her learnings of the Grimmery, and like I
Speaker 1: think that spell was a temporary spell, Like I don't
Speaker 1: think she was. And again, like I think it was
Speaker 1: also not fixing or cha right, we're not changing things.
Speaker 1: We are giving her a moment to allow Alpha Butt
Speaker 1: to show that she's trying and she's offering something yes,
Speaker 1: and Nasa saying, okay, I've done it. And yet it's
Speaker 1: still now Bach is still leaving. He doesn't need me,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: And the whole is she is her perspective or for
Speaker 2: understanding or her perception of the world around her more
Speaker 2: as opposed to you know, now that she is floating.
Speaker 2: She can have all things and want all things. Like no,
Speaker 2: box still has the same wants and desires you just
Speaker 2: right are now seeing them clearly for the first time.
Speaker 2: And she literally comes back to.
Speaker 1: Earth when he's saying that when he's saying I'm going
Speaker 1: to leave now that you don't need me.
Speaker 2: That's why you can't put all your hopes and desires
Speaker 2: in someone else, I know, especially a man.
Speaker 1: Awesome, you know it. Also, this was added into the
Speaker 1: film as well of she's saying I will see you
Speaker 1: again basically and restricting the Munchkin's travel, you know, ability
Speaker 1: to get out of the out of Munchkin Lane and
Speaker 1: not much for the l munchkin Land.
Speaker 2: And then because she says all this with a smile.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's like, well, you know, and and so we've
Speaker 1: never seen that before because in the movie, you know,
Speaker 1: he turns into the tin Man in that same scene.
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, they go find the mirror and the
Speaker 1: whole thing, and then he comes out and he uses
Speaker 1: the tin Man. So this was added. I'd imagine it
Speaker 1: was from the book, but I again, it was like
Speaker 1: more I appreciated that, like.
Speaker 2: Evil, Oh yeah, she becomes like a tyrant.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, anyway, I love And then of course they
Speaker 6: use her when Glinda gets revealed to Madame Marble and
Speaker 6: the Wizard that.
Speaker 1: Her sister's her weakness, they use that against her to
Speaker 1: bring her back to to capture her, which.
Speaker 2: I thought was really beautiful job on Ariana's part.
Speaker 1: Again, another moment of like she's going to make that
Speaker 1: decision because she's hurt, right, it.
Speaker 2: Was like, yes, but it was not even her intention
Speaker 2: was to start a rumor Madam Marvel's attention, I mean
Speaker 2: intention was to murder like very different things. And leaving
Speaker 2: that that shot of just leaving it an Ariana for
Speaker 2: a long time in her accepting what was going on
Speaker 2: in the world, her world came crashing down like tears
Speaker 2: to tears trying to just saying that little thing. I
Speaker 2: thought was one of the most most like beautiful cinematic
Speaker 2: parts of the movie. Yeah, I wish, I honestly wish
Speaker 2: there were more of those moments, Like I really loved
Speaker 2: how that was shot. I loved how it was staged
Speaker 2: and blocked, Like I wish there was Well, you have
Speaker 2: a couple of those. There's a couple of Jeff Global
Speaker 2: moments like that, And speaking of let's talk about Jeff
Speaker 2: Global and Michelle Yo. Okay, Michelle Yo is an incredible actor.
Speaker 2: Michelle Yo has said herself she's not a single. That's
Speaker 2: not why she's in this however, And I know they
Speaker 2: called and begged her to do this. I just think
Speaker 2: I let me. Also, I think that a really big
Speaker 2: part of this is I do think she had a
Speaker 2: really hard job because a lot of her dialogue is
Speaker 2: her running into a scene saying something out of nowhere,
Speaker 2: like it's the Wicked Witch or like get her. I
Speaker 2: would say, like three out of four times that's what
Speaker 2: she's saying, you know what I mean. Like it's hard
Speaker 2: to just like interject yeah the one one liners and
Speaker 2: say something.
Speaker 1: But she's an important character, like she drives. She is
Speaker 1: actually the bad guy behind the bad guy.
Speaker 2: And it doesn't feel like it.
Speaker 1: I know, there's like a loss of like I respectfully
Speaker 1: m hm, I feel like she didn't.
Speaker 2: It feels like she didn't know what world she was in. Mmm.
Speaker 2: Everybody else did. And I think that's why it sticks out.
Speaker 2: Everybody else is so in it. And like I love
Speaker 2: just to watch Michelle Yo, like let me just but
Speaker 2: the use of like she's now the minister at the wedding.
Speaker 2: She's now the press secretary for Oz. She's here. Also,
Speaker 2: she's also the most one dimensional character in the in
Speaker 2: the entire story, and like the most she is the
Speaker 2: most school.
Speaker 1: And no, that's what I'm saying. Though there's not there's
Speaker 1: not a ton of layer or give in that space
Speaker 1: or written that she can grasp onto to create something
Speaker 1: that makes her likable even as a character.
Speaker 2: Right, Like you know what I mean, Like it felt
Speaker 2: like it was a lack of choices, but I do
Speaker 2: think like it was. That being said, I think the
Speaker 2: caveat is I think it's a really hard position to
Speaker 2: be in. Yeah, for sure, But I also think, like,
Speaker 2: if you are hiring a non singer and a musical
Speaker 2: with some of the world's greatest singers, maybe don't.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, oh my god, what did you think
Speaker 1: about Jeff Goblum wonderful?
Speaker 2: Oh god, that wasn't even intentional.
Speaker 1: Ha, Yeah, he's Look, I think the Wizard is one
Speaker 1: of my least favorite characters in the film. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: in the musical, right, the songs are they weren't aren't
Speaker 1: as strong. You know, we love Djoel Gray, but like
Speaker 1: the songs are just not strong, and so I'm like, mah,
Speaker 1: I think I'm doing him.
Speaker 2: Usually male songs like that are sort of like the
Speaker 2: throwaway once.
Speaker 1: But Jeff Goldlum is a very likable person, and I
Speaker 1: really I appreciated the pizazz that he brought to the
Speaker 1: Wizard was amazing. Yes, it was right right, And and
Speaker 1: adding in Ariana into his song you know the Wonderful
Speaker 1: was interesting because that's not the way it is on
Speaker 1: the in the musical, and honestly make it more interesting.
Speaker 1: So like, let's bring arian in there. Let's make it
Speaker 1: uh spectacle right, because otherwise it's not you know, like
Speaker 1: it just doesn't he snooze fast.
Speaker 2: When he to me when he comes in in this movie,
Speaker 2: to me, it is like almost like a sigh of relief,
Speaker 2: of like, because his character is also really hard and complicated. Yes, yes,
Speaker 2: but he understands nuance. Yes. In every single scene, there
Speaker 2: was so much thought going on behind his eyes, and
Speaker 2: he's understanding what these girls are saying to each other,
Speaker 2: what the situation is. And I didn't realize you're not
Speaker 2: thinking of that when you're watching a movie necessarily, But
Speaker 2: as soon as he came on screen, I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: I now understand the world in a different way.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Wizard, he doesn't get to that position if
Speaker 2: he's not a master of manipulation, right, And yes he
Speaker 2: is like the best con man. Yeah, and creepy and
Speaker 2: like I don't know, and yet still charming. And I
Speaker 2: thought Wonderful was one of the best shot numbers in
Speaker 2: the movie. I thought it was beautifully staged. I liked
Speaker 2: the technicolor aspect of it. There were some beautiful like
Speaker 2: odes and references to the Wizard of Oz movie. Yes
Speaker 2: that I really liked it'ds yeah, I just I honestly
Speaker 2: wanted more. When that song started, I was like, ugh,
Speaker 2: here we go, and then I never wanted it to end.
Speaker 1: No, I think they did. They did the best they
Speaker 1: could with that number, and it's the best version that
Speaker 1: it could possibly be.
Speaker 2: And I think one of the best numbers in this
Speaker 2: entire movie. Wow, I really might be third tru Wow,
Speaker 2: I disagree, but I thought it was exact because I
Speaker 2: also thought they were all really good in it.
Speaker 1: But yeah, no, for sure, for sure, still not my
Speaker 1: favorite number. But I appreciate you you're saying, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but well done, well done.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Watching it visually, I was like this is what
Speaker 2: I what I didn't love. Like the first thing you
Speaker 2: hear Albus say in this movie basically is like she
Speaker 2: gets into like the Emerald City with the Wizard and
Speaker 2: says it's over. You're like, didn't we just see you
Speaker 2: flying on your broom saying I'm going to take them down?
Speaker 2: Like you didn't do anything yet other than like disrupt
Speaker 2: some of this like yellow brick road being built, but
Speaker 2: it still got built. It's finished. There's been a ceremony. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And like my issue with that was like she turned
Speaker 2: so quickly, it was like it's over and like, oh,
Speaker 2: but we're going to sing a little ditty and she
Speaker 2: gets convinced like really quickly, where it's like the alphabet
Speaker 2: I know, right is like stronger than that. H And
Speaker 2: that was my only issue that was like a little
Speaker 2: story issue with me. I don't know, I don't know
Speaker 2: if the story issue. I don't know if that's like
Speaker 2: a I'm not sure who's in charge of that, like.
Speaker 1: A character issue or like in the writing or whatever.
Speaker 2: Right. Yeah. What I also liked having arian It in
Speaker 2: that or having Glinda in that scene is Glinda is
Speaker 2: like the Wishard of Oz where she doesn't possess any power,
Speaker 2: but she's influential and can get people to do what
Speaker 2: she wants me to use.
Speaker 1: It for the right, We're good. That's the bubble. It's
Speaker 1: like Madam Moriles Marvel saying this will distract from the
Speaker 1: fact that you don't have any power.
Speaker 2: Can we talk about the ending, because I feel like
Speaker 2: it's a really big change? What do you mean which
Speaker 2: part in the stage show? Correct me if I'm wrong
Speaker 2: Glinda's We leave Glinda sort of like accepting her consequences,
Speaker 2: the consequences of her actions. We don't know what's really
Speaker 2: going to happen. She realizes she's messed up a lot.
Speaker 2: She doesn't get like a happy ending really right now.
Speaker 2: I feel like in the movie she gets everything, she
Speaker 2: becomes the person of power. She gets Madam Marbles swept away,
Speaker 2: she gets like all within one failed sweep. It's all
Speaker 2: like really easy.
Speaker 1: I mean, Marvel goes away. In the musical, she tells
Speaker 1: her I don't think you have what it takes, and
Speaker 1: she leaves. The wizard leaves she does she get the
Speaker 1: grimy yes in the end of the musical or in
Speaker 1: the beginning of the musical, is the end of the musical.
Speaker 1: So when she comes by Bubble, she's holding the Grimmery,
Speaker 1: so she does get the grimmory in the yes, but
Speaker 1: it doesn't open and she doesn't get.
Speaker 7: Like, no, we don't see the magic, like we don't
Speaker 7: see her like you know, like the whole thing, you know,
Speaker 7: with the grimmory lighting up and looking over oz right, bring.
Speaker 2: The animals back, right, well the animals are.
Speaker 1: Yes. I think what you're saying, well, there's a part.
Speaker 2: That's why negates the whole moral of the story, where
Speaker 2: these are complicated people and they don't actually have I.
Speaker 1: Think this was a universal choice of like we're opening
Speaker 1: the world and it's keep going and you better keep
Speaker 1: it open, because what.
Speaker 2: I longed for was that, like, it doesn't all completely
Speaker 2: work out for Glinda because Alphaba still has to run
Speaker 2: off to the unknown sands of time right right, and
Speaker 2: then and then Glinda literally gets everything, gets the credit
Speaker 2: for the animals, gets the credit for it, Like, but
Speaker 2: what has she actually done?
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know for sure, but then in those
Speaker 1: are laws to it for that that argument is like
Speaker 1: she is Glinda the good we don't know any of that, Like,
Speaker 1: and I see what you're saying, Maybe my argument is
Speaker 1: Nolan Boyd.
Speaker 2: But like I already made her Glinda the good because
Speaker 2: just as they made Alphaba the Wicked Witch when she wasn't,
Speaker 2: they also did propaganda for making Glinda the good without
Speaker 2: having actually done anything.
Speaker 1: Right, I think the grimmery opening and her with the
Speaker 1: animals did open the world to her actually getting more
Speaker 1: than what we had hoped for. Like in the musical
Speaker 1: where it's kind of uh vague, right, like she's singing
Speaker 1: and she's she's happy in front of them, but she's
Speaker 1: crying in the right like you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: and we don't know. So I think that's fair. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't think about it that way. But
Speaker 1: I don't think I walked away going like, oh, she
Speaker 1: got everything she wanted, because that moment where they're at
Speaker 1: the door right, actually isn't her getting everything she wanted.
Speaker 2: No, I guess I guess what I mean is publicly
Speaker 2: she's getting everything she wanted. Personally, yes, she loses, she
Speaker 2: loses the closest person to her.
Speaker 1: I think from the musical point of view, I don't
Speaker 1: think that I thought that she didn't get everything she
Speaker 1: wanted because publicly, yeah, and privately, still the same story lands,
Speaker 1: like she's still getting the recognition she still is the
Speaker 1: good person. Yeah, she has to confront the fact that
Speaker 1: they were friends at some point, right, and people know
Speaker 1: that about her, But even from the beginning of act too,
Speaker 1: like she's still the one that they look to that
Speaker 1: she's you know what I mean, she's she's getting on
Speaker 1: the outside everything she wanted.
Speaker 2: I guess the thing is like the stage musical left
Speaker 2: more of a question mark to me at the end
Speaker 2: of like where she was where, Like she's doing some
Speaker 2: deep reflection about like the journey that has happened. And
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that's not happening in this but like
Speaker 2: every loose end is like sort of neatly tied up
Speaker 2: in a bow.
Speaker 1: Yes, I understand, as opposed to.
Speaker 2: Like leaving some open questions of like Glinda now doesn't
Speaker 2: suffer the consequence of being complicit in like discrimination against
Speaker 2: the animals that she's been for the entirety of two movies.
Speaker 2: She's complicit and Deessa dying like she's complicit in all
Speaker 2: of these things with a tyrannical sort of government, you know,
Speaker 2: like what's going on and all of a sudden, like
Speaker 2: Slate is wiped clean.
Speaker 1: Yeah no, no's in the stage musical.
Speaker 2: But it's like that extra step that happens in the movie. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's like, well, yeah, what what are we learning here?
Speaker 1: Okay, so let's create some performances, like, let's do some
Speaker 1: of the highlights. So thank goodness A plus. What were
Speaker 1: some of your favorites?
Speaker 2: Wonderful? A plus plus?
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, as long as your mind.
Speaker 2: I did love.
Speaker 1: I know that people aren't loving that as much, but
Speaker 1: I don't care.
Speaker 2: As long as your mind Alphaba and Piero. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: you know, look, I think Jonathan Bailey acted of it.
Speaker 2: I think nobody should have to sing against Cynthia, like
Speaker 2: that's not fair. But I also think that they're really
Speaker 2: good together. He has chemistry with the wall, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, Like he's he's very good though too,
Speaker 2: he's no, no, no, he's also get rid of the context?
Speaker 2: Can we get rid of the blue contexts?
Speaker 1: I know it was a thing. It was a thing.
Speaker 4: No good deed, incredible, no good day. It's giving them Agatha,
Speaker 4: which yes, I wanted that number to be twenty minutes longer,
Speaker 4: you know, for sure, I mean i'd pay twenty five
Speaker 4: dollars for that. I obviously for Good and the door
Speaker 4: and the number and that whole scene and the whole.
Speaker 1: Culination of it was just really beautiful and just really raw,
Speaker 1: and I everybody's looking forward to that, and they really
Speaker 1: did it justice. Period.
Speaker 2: Is that in the Stage Show before for Good, Alphabet
Speaker 2: doesn't Alphabet say like you're never gonna see me again
Speaker 2: or something like that, like this is the last time
Speaker 2: you seeing me or something like that, and she doesn't
Speaker 2: say that in this and like, interesting, I feel like
Speaker 2: then the stakes of that song are a little different.
Speaker 2: Granted it's incredible in the movie, but I feel like
Speaker 2: you need that, like this is the last thing they're
Speaker 2: ever saying to each other. I did also love the
Speaker 2: you know, the comedy bit from the Stage Show, which
Speaker 2: is also in here a bit of Dorothy just being
Speaker 2: down in the cellar while they're having this whole beautiful
Speaker 2: and that shot of them and like the closet together, yeah,
Speaker 2: or on either side of the door in the closet
Speaker 2: was apparently improv where like he just left the camera
Speaker 2: rolling and they just did that, and it's probably the
Speaker 2: most moving important shot in the entire movie.
Speaker 1: Oh truly, it was really very very powerful Okay, TARTI
Speaker 1: takes not really, I don't think so. No dance dance
Speaker 1: move honestly, all of wonderful, wonderful. Yeah, totally. Best song
Speaker 1: performance by Prop the Grimmery obviously, and Glinda's lingerie.
Speaker 2: Nit holy sweater, I mean, I mean, I like boxes
Speaker 2: acts was pretty cool. Glenda's wand was really great. Okay, uh,
Speaker 2: best line not all of us can come and go
Speaker 2: by bubble, yes.
Speaker 1: Foreman's MVP, I mean the ladies. And then also and
Speaker 1: then also honorable mention to Jonathan Bailey.
Speaker 2: And Jeff Goldblum. Yes, I thought, Cynthia and Arianna, we're
Speaker 2: very good, very very good. And I think it's Cynthia's
Speaker 2: best acting performance today.
Speaker 1: Excellent, truly.
Speaker 2: We found on TikTok the gay chemistry between a gay
Speaker 2: man and a lesbian woman is giving smooth criminal from Lee.
Speaker 2: Now I can't stop thinking about it. Jonathan Bailey and
Speaker 2: Cynthia vote. I love that. That's great, very funny.
Speaker 1: Okay, So we have a things giving episode for you,
Speaker 1: and then on Friday we're we're talking to a wiki
Speaker 1: choreographer and our friend Chris Scott. Very exciting, you guys.
Speaker 2: Yes, next week, Jenna got a chance to talk to
Speaker 2: the one and only Tracy Toms who play Joanne.
Speaker 1: And Rent our wonderful friend. So no movie recap next week,
Speaker 1: you guys, but if you want to get a head
Speaker 1: start on your next assignment, for two weeks from now,
Speaker 1: we're going to be diving into two thousand and seven's
Speaker 1: Sweeney Todd, The Demon Barber of Fleet Street, directed by
Speaker 1: Tim Broughton.
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