Speaker 1: Carola. She's a queen of talking. He was sown your man.
Speaker 1: She's only yes, actually got the snoop on on the
Speaker 1: on side. No one can do with clid back Carola, Carola,
Speaker 1: no one can do within clid Caralai Carola. Hey, y'all,
Speaker 1: welcome to Hyper Caroline Hobby. I am your host, Caroline Hobby.
Speaker 1: I know music, I know people, and I know the
Speaker 1: questions do you want to ask? So let's get hyper
Speaker 1: heads up. These are adults having adult conversations, so there
Speaker 1: could be adult content. I am so excited to have
Speaker 1: Maggie Rose in the house. Not only is she just
Speaker 1: like a style icon. I love her style and fashion.
Speaker 1: She's an using. She just got announced that she's on
Speaker 1: c mt S Next Woman Tour with Martina McBride and
Speaker 1: Lauren Elena. It just kicked off, killing it Postman Rose
Speaker 1: also on that tour. She was named c mt S
Speaker 1: seventeen to watch for two thousand seventeen. She's also want
Speaker 1: to CMTS Next Woman of Country. She is going to
Speaker 1: be playing a couple of shows with Faith in Tim
Speaker 1: this year. Are you kidding me? On their solo soul tour.
Speaker 1: I can't handle it. She really is killing it. This
Speaker 1: is Maggie's year, so you guys get excited. There's so
Speaker 1: much that we talked about. Her story is insane. Here
Speaker 1: is Maggie Rose. I am here with the beautiful, the
Speaker 1: talented Maggie Rose. Caroline, Caroline, Caroline. She's the reason for
Speaker 1: the word love love. Yes, that's what I was gonna say.
Speaker 1: That's the lyrics, what it should be. I know, if
Speaker 1: only they knew you. Yes, I got to rewrite it.
Speaker 1: We got to rewrite it. I just talked to outcasts
Speaker 1: about the pencil that in so here dog Mark, we're
Speaker 1: at my house and there are two dogs roaming. They
Speaker 1: might pick up. Our co stars are co stars today
Speaker 1: because Maggie likes a party, right, yes, always, especially Ruby
Speaker 1: and Sugar the greatest. Okay, So I want to start
Speaker 1: off with a few questions. Okay, so just answer the
Speaker 1: first thing that comes to your mind. Okay. I always
Speaker 1: learned about myself with these kinds of questions too. They're
Speaker 1: very good, right now, Okay, dream duet, dream duet, living
Speaker 1: or dead or living? Okay? Frank Sinatra, Oh yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean I know that might be kind of basic, but
Speaker 1: I think it's because he's classic. Everyone wants to have
Speaker 1: a duet with Frank Sinatra. He just uses everything only
Speaker 1: he has only Frank. How does only Frank have it?
Speaker 1: I don't know. He just I think it's this confidence
Speaker 1: that he had from an early age. He knew he
Speaker 1: was great and he just carried that through his whole career.
Speaker 1: And my grandparents, who I just lost seven weeks apart
Speaker 1: earlier this year. Do you think they died died of
Speaker 1: a heart of heartbreak. Yeah. Actually wrote a song about it,
Speaker 1: and I put a Sonata reference in the chorus because
Speaker 1: that was, uh, some music that really brought them together
Speaker 1: from you know, when they met to their last days.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's like the notebook love. It was totally.
Speaker 1: It was a little heartbreaking. My grandmother and your grandpa
Speaker 1: just couldn't do it. Yeah, So it was September and
Speaker 1: then about seven weeks later, uh, and he had such
Speaker 1: as zest for life. Still they were married for sixty
Speaker 1: four years, and he stuck around long enough to put
Speaker 1: up a tree at his house and carry on the
Speaker 1: tradition that we always carried on on my dad's side
Speaker 1: of the family. We'd spend that day with um me
Speaker 1: mom people. But I was actually home I was lucky
Speaker 1: enough to be home for a show on December three,
Speaker 1: and he passed that weekend, so I got to say goodbye.
Speaker 1: He didn't see me, but I was there, so yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the best you could have though, for when you
Speaker 1: have we have to pass on. It was scenario. It
Speaker 1: was like the exclamation point to the end of two
Speaker 1: thousand sixteen for me. I think, uh, not to jump
Speaker 1: into it right away, but spoken about this so much,
Speaker 1: I think that tell me about what happened in two
Speaker 1: thousand sixteen. I set the table for this year. Phrasing
Speaker 1: it like that. It was like my whole goal last
Speaker 1: year was to get ready for this year where I
Speaker 1: was going to share music again. And I think there
Speaker 1: was a lot of behind the scenes work being done.
Speaker 1: Not that I'm really fond of that term, because I
Speaker 1: think that everything is important, whether a lot of people
Speaker 1: are observing you doing it or if it's your own
Speaker 1: personal journey. But it was writing music and I got married.
Speaker 1: I I bought my catalog back. How great is that you?
Speaker 1: And that happened like over Christmas break, so I feel
Speaker 1: like I haven't quite gotten a break between some emotional
Speaker 1: hardships and ups and downs and you know, I was
Speaker 1: writing music for myself when I officially got to start
Speaker 1: writing music for others. The Variety Show. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: that was like kind of the start to the year.
Speaker 1: That was such a great start because you released music
Speaker 1: the Variety Show, which was so good. Tell me about
Speaker 1: that and what was the inspiration behind the Variety Show.
Speaker 1: I hadn't released any music since two thousand, so this
Speaker 1: was last April two thou sixteen, and I had just
Speaker 1: been writing and writing all this material and it was
Speaker 1: all over the place. I think it was the first
Speaker 1: time in my career that I gotten to a point
Speaker 1: where I could just express myself creatively, Like you didn't
Speaker 1: have anyone telling you what you need to do, what
Speaker 1: doesn't work, what does well, and there are different goals
Speaker 1: earlier on. It wasn't that people around me were trying
Speaker 1: to keep me from being anything. It's just that we
Speaker 1: were being strategic. We were trying to, you know, also
Speaker 1: be successful from a business perspective and fulfilling creative and
Speaker 1: it's really hard to do. Yeah, it's hard to be
Speaker 1: little like her, and I think that I got I
Speaker 1: was really young when I came to Nashville, and I
Speaker 1: never and you had. You've had several record deals. I
Speaker 1: have had three. I've had four, actually four record deals
Speaker 1: because you started at like seventeen. Yes, I started professionally
Speaker 1: singing um with Bruce Springsteen tribute band. They're actually the
Speaker 1: b Street band who got embroiled in this whole political
Speaker 1: web of the ones who agreed to do the gig
Speaker 1: for Trump, like oh gosh, but they agreed four years ago,
Speaker 1: and they did it for Obama eight years ago. And
Speaker 1: so you were in that. Man. I was part of
Speaker 1: the band that they're They're their own thing. I just
Speaker 1: opened up with them and they would back me and
Speaker 1: I do my own originals or other songs that I like.
Speaker 1: Because I was sixteen year old, that's a great place
Speaker 1: to a charactic school with no other place. The only
Speaker 1: place I had ever had to perform was chart or
Speaker 1: choirs and secular music. I was not performing at bars.
Speaker 1: And until I met those guys, I didn't really know
Speaker 1: or appreciate what it was to be a performer. Did
Speaker 1: they give me a lot of did they teach you
Speaker 1: a lot? And where did you meet them? Where it
Speaker 1: tell me where you're from. So I'm from Potomac, Maryland,
Speaker 1: Potomic Maryland, Potomac. Yes, like the Potomac River, the Potomac River, Maryland.
Speaker 1: All the reads like Potomac, but it's from Potomac. Did
Speaker 1: you meet them there? I did so. Rewinding way back,
Speaker 1: I had um and I still have a business partner
Speaker 1: who's been an advocate of mine for a long time.
Speaker 1: But in the earlier years he was investing in me financially,
Speaker 1: which is a beautiful thing. He believed in me as
Speaker 1: an artist and a singer, and his family got behind
Speaker 1: me and made the first few years a lot easier.
Speaker 1: I will say, yes, we had no idea what we
Speaker 1: were doing, but we knew that we had passion and
Speaker 1: music and talent. So in the beginning, where you writing
Speaker 1: your own songs, I was some of them you will
Speaker 1: never hear. In fact, most of them you will never hear.
Speaker 1: So you've been writing songs from a really young age. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: But until I came to Nashville, UM, I realized what
Speaker 1: it really takes to be a writer. And I think
Speaker 1: having all the resources here of either people who are
Speaker 1: amazing writers or singers or musicians really accelerated my development.
Speaker 1: And it's like baptism by fire when I'm here. So
Speaker 1: that was kind of your first record deal with this
Speaker 1: you had an investor who kind of he started a
Speaker 1: label for you. And then time Actually I got a
Speaker 1: singles deal with Universal Republic and you covered use Somebody
Speaker 1: from Kings of Leon, which was so good. You did
Speaker 1: a different version. I will never forget when you did that.
Speaker 1: It was so great. How did you decide to do that? Well? Actually,
Speaker 1: and this hearkens back to how young I was. I
Speaker 1: was connected with Tommy Mtre, like Mariah Carey, all of
Speaker 1: them who did was he married was married to Maria.
Speaker 1: I think Michael Jackson was not a fan of his
Speaker 1: at the end of his career, but he's an amazing manually.
Speaker 1: Those are the references that a lot of people know.
Speaker 1: But he ran Sony and so you were linked up
Speaker 1: with him. I was, and it was very strange how
Speaker 1: it happened, and like really talk about it because he
Speaker 1: just introduced me. He wasn't really part of my career
Speaker 1: beyond um our initial meeting and him helping me make
Speaker 1: network connections with James Stroud, who was one of the
Speaker 1: producers on my first record, which he also then signed
Speaker 1: you to Straddo Various, which was imprint under It was
Speaker 1: under then R and J Records, So it wasn't an imprint,
Speaker 1: it was Stroud's label. Okay, so is that the second
Speaker 1: record though? Yes? So Tommy Matola introduced you to James Stroud?
Speaker 1: How did that meaning happens? I want to know how
Speaker 1: you got that room situation? How are you all all
Speaker 1: in the same room? So I basically was writing from
Speaker 1: an early age and performing. Are you in Nashville at
Speaker 1: this point? Not yet? Not yet? Was at Clemson? You're
Speaker 1: in college now, first record deal is done, hasn't happened,
Speaker 1: So the timeline is Okay, you know, I'm being really confusing.
Speaker 1: How sometimes when I think about it, I'm like, how
Speaker 1: what order did this happen? Okay? So just yeah, to
Speaker 1: break down the timeline. So I start playing with the
Speaker 1: B Street Band, get connected with my investor. We haven't
Speaker 1: struck a deal or a record deal or any formal
Speaker 1: agreement on how we're going to do this. We're just like,
Speaker 1: we're going to Nashville. Um before I make that move,
Speaker 1: because I I am invested in my career at Clemson.
Speaker 1: At that point, I was in the middle of my
Speaker 1: sophomore year. Everyone from my family goes to college or
Speaker 1: went to college. So the concept of leaving to go
Speaker 1: to Nashville was a scary one and very unconventional. So
Speaker 1: did you bail on Clemson? I did that piece out,
Speaker 1: I said, peace out. But I wasn't going to just
Speaker 1: sling a guitar over my shoulder and be like I'm
Speaker 1: own to Nashville with like a hobo stick. My parents
Speaker 1: are like, you need to lay down a foundation of uh,
Speaker 1: you know, where are you going to live, who are
Speaker 1: you going to work with, what's the game plan? And
Speaker 1: now we realized that you can do all of that
Speaker 1: and grow it out the window. But good intentions there, ye,
Speaker 1: Your plans in the music industry are like always laughable.
Speaker 1: Ambition is not. So, you know, they knew that I was.
Speaker 1: I felt then on doing this and if I was
Speaker 1: going to deviate from the conventional path that most Potomac
Speaker 1: natives follow, then I had to be serious about it.
Speaker 1: So I was able to with my investor at the time,
Speaker 1: my business partner, find a way to get to Tommy Mottola.
Speaker 1: We found who knew someone who knew someone who basically
Speaker 1: was he house next to Tommy and Aspen. It was
Speaker 1: like seven degrees of separation and nothing really professional. Did
Speaker 1: you like to or knock on his door? No, but
Speaker 1: that would have been not past like the realm of
Speaker 1: was he the goal? Was he the one you're wanting
Speaker 1: to meet? He was the only one that we could
Speaker 1: even think of as a contact. And yes, he's way
Speaker 1: high on the totem pole, but we were so far
Speaker 1: removed from anyone within the industry. Just because we were
Speaker 1: out writing and performing and gigging with this band doesn't
Speaker 1: mean we had any idea what we were doing from
Speaker 1: a business perspective. But I love that you're just fearless. Okay,
Speaker 1: so you got seven degrees to Tommy Bitola. You finally
Speaker 1: get there. I get some original music through to him
Speaker 1: that I've recorded in some studio in New Jersey, and Tommy,
Speaker 1: here's the potential in the vocals. And you were young
Speaker 1: at this point. How it was a baby as eighteen,
Speaker 1: not yet nineteen. So he hears it at eighteen. That's
Speaker 1: a big deal for Tommy Batola to have some random
Speaker 1: girl getting the music to him. He actually likes it. Yes,
Speaker 1: And I'm I'm sure that there was like a political
Speaker 1: pushed through with this contact of ours. It was like, no,
Speaker 1: really listen to this, I know, just do me this favor.
Speaker 1: But he liked it, and so we'll take it. That's amazing.
Speaker 1: His assistant called me when I was on my way
Speaker 1: to class, did you fall out the frame? I did.
Speaker 1: I didn't go to class that day, I can imagine.
Speaker 1: But it's such a small little piece of the journey.
Speaker 1: I think that. Um, it's just it's like if I
Speaker 1: thought that things were going to happen the way that
Speaker 1: Tommy laid them out. Six months, You're going to release
Speaker 1: a single, We're gonna put an album out. Like, none
Speaker 1: of that happened. So he had a quick release for you.
Speaker 1: He had big plans, but he really was not involved.
Speaker 1: Made the connection with um James Stroud. So I'm gonna
Speaker 1: link you up with James Stroud. Yes, Laura Stroud was
Speaker 1: um part of the A and R department at Sony
Speaker 1: when Tommy was involved with the Dixie Chicks. Okay, so okay,
Speaker 1: and that's that's James's wife, Yes, not anymore, that was
Speaker 1: his former wife at the time. Yeah, Um, I know,
Speaker 1: it's crazy. I feel like it's good. We're putting it,
Speaker 1: we're piecing it together. Yeah. So anyway, that was forever
Speaker 1: and ever and ever ago I wish I could give
Speaker 1: Tommy more credit, but he really didn't have anything more
Speaker 1: to do with. But sometimes an introduction from someone like
Speaker 1: that is a big I mean that goes a long way. Yes,
Speaker 1: so James. Now I go from having no contacts in
Speaker 1: Nashville to then all of a sudden having Laura Stroud
Speaker 1: and James Stroud. Laura being such an amazing publisher, her
Speaker 1: ear for a song. She taught me so much about
Speaker 1: taste and what the difference between a good song and
Speaker 1: a great song. That's awesome and valuable information. And the
Speaker 1: funny thing is I went one way at a certain point,
Speaker 1: she went another and we've connected now. Um And the
Speaker 1: weirdest way, I work with Marvel black Stock. He's my
Speaker 1: manager now and he does Blake Shelton. He does Blake
Speaker 1: Shelton and Kelly and Kelly Clarkson. Yes, good company. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just one sorry Kelly Clarkson. No last name, no last
Speaker 1: name needed really, there's not much of the last name needed, right,
Speaker 1: And he is just very smart and patient. Love that
Speaker 1: about him. I think that that's a testament to just
Speaker 1: his He's a veteran of this industry, but he's also fresh.
Speaker 1: His perspective and his son Brandon. I think they make
Speaker 1: a great married to Kelly Clarkson. Yeah, that's right, so cute,
Speaker 1: and it's just like two generations coming together. And my
Speaker 1: husband works at Starstruck. Now. Great is that he has
Speaker 1: someone to now be a buffer between us because he
Speaker 1: was managing me in the interim when my last label folded,
Speaker 1: so RPM. The last song I ever put out with
Speaker 1: them was a Girl in Your Truck song, which I
Speaker 1: love the writers of that song, but that was one
Speaker 1: of those things where it was a great I didn't
Speaker 1: feel like behind the the meaning of the song. I
Speaker 1: thought it was a great, very way hit to all
Speaker 1: this other stuff that I was about to release. And
Speaker 1: then unfortunately it was like that time where you had
Speaker 1: to be, you know, either probro country, pro traditional and
Speaker 1: there's nothing in between. And I'm like, this is not
Speaker 1: how we operate. That's not how music is. And um,
Speaker 1: it's unfortunate that so many people identify artists now based
Speaker 1: on one single or one right and you know, I
Speaker 1: think you are a musician and you're married to a musician.
Speaker 1: You know that there's a lot of depth that you
Speaker 1: wish you could see. It's just people's attention spans are
Speaker 1: we're trained to be like used to listening to music
Speaker 1: that way. So that's sort of like a way long
Speaker 1: answer to get back to the Variety show. And also
Speaker 1: also though Laura, So how did you reconnect with Laura
Speaker 1: st Out? Well, Laura and I have always just been
Speaker 1: really good friends, and I felt like I was at
Speaker 1: it this time whereas being creative and writing all these songs,
Speaker 1: and I wanted her opinion as a publisher and someone
Speaker 1: who you know, really taught me how to hear a
Speaker 1: good song. And I reached back out to her and
Speaker 1: this guy was at dinner with her and it was
Speaker 1: Marvel because she and James had split in a very
Speaker 1: amicable way, but she and Marvel were together, so I
Speaker 1: was almost like, this is Marvel. Better be good to her, Like,
Speaker 1: you know, you've been in this guy's great but you know,
Speaker 1: Laura was my girl, and um, even now since we've
Speaker 1: been working together, she's so respectful of what he does
Speaker 1: and what I do. But she's also one of the
Speaker 1: smartest people ever. So how crazy that you worked with
Speaker 1: her for your first real I guess record to Astrato
Speaker 1: Various and now you're working with her again in a
Speaker 1: totally different situation. I mean, we're with Marvel your manager.
Speaker 1: Wasn't that crazy? It's crazy. She's absolutely meant to be
Speaker 1: in my life, and I feel like her opinion is
Speaker 1: valuable to me now as it ever was. But um,
Speaker 1: she really was my She helped me in my most
Speaker 1: developmental stages early on. And then I think that my
Speaker 1: last two years of being a totally independent artist have
Speaker 1: also been like times of tough growth but freedom that
Speaker 1: it's I've been able to sort of surprise myself. It's
Speaker 1: been really cool. And that's whether Variety Show came out
Speaker 1: of okay. But before I get there, so then you
Speaker 1: meet Tommy Mottola introduces you to James Stroud. So now
Speaker 1: is that one record together? Your investor with James Stroud?
Speaker 1: Are you straight on shroud of Various? His label? How
Speaker 1: does that happen? I was first signed a universal Republic
Speaker 1: with the Singles deal, and that was orchestrated by Tommy
Speaker 1: and Doug Morris. But I was working with staff that
Speaker 1: was about to be Republic Nashville here and also people
Speaker 1: out of New York. It was not a good it
Speaker 1: was not effective. It was exciting, but back on himself
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I've had record deals. I probably wouldn't
Speaker 1: have taken that one today. And I don't think that
Speaker 1: my investor Tom would have taken it either, because so
Speaker 1: he was investing with the Universal. No, we were just
Speaker 1: there was the potential for his investment after they eventually
Speaker 1: got him to invest. So it was just like this,
Speaker 1: and I believe moving forward, like people need to have
Speaker 1: skin in the game. If you're going to team up
Speaker 1: with anyone, then there's got to be a mutual sacrifice,
Speaker 1: mean either financial or or passionate about what you're doing
Speaker 1: or your reputation on the line. I mean, you're asking
Speaker 1: so much of both people, the artist and the team
Speaker 1: to get behind it and share it with the world,
Speaker 1: get it to the world that I don't think I'll
Speaker 1: ever be in a situation where I was, you know,
Speaker 1: having to put all the investment in and invest in
Speaker 1: like of my time and my my life and my heart.
Speaker 1: It's like, I think I just heard a little too much.
Speaker 1: I felt a little too much for a while. Okay,
Speaker 1: so you'll put out you somebody though, that was the
Speaker 1: Kings of Leon song. How did you decide to cover
Speaker 1: that song? I didn't. I was told to do that.
Speaker 1: It's not thank you, But I think it was one
Speaker 1: of those things that I had another song ready to go,
Speaker 1: and if I wasn't going to get to do that,
Speaker 1: I was gonna do my damnedest to make this opportunity
Speaker 1: sound the best that it could. Because listen, it's not
Speaker 1: oh poor me. I got a deal and I had
Speaker 1: to do a different song than I was going to do.
Speaker 1: I still had an opportunity that a lot of people
Speaker 1: wish that they could have gotten a lot of artists
Speaker 1: out there who would make be patient with the process,
Speaker 1: you know, hope that you do something and you get
Speaker 1: to do what you really want later. That something I
Speaker 1: think every artist can buy into at one point in
Speaker 1: their career, and sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn't. Okay,
Speaker 1: so that comes out, and then what happened after you?
Speaker 1: Somebody came out. So then I think I could just
Speaker 1: basically condense the following three years into, you know, just
Speaker 1: one indie label from the next. And it was a
Speaker 1: tumultous time in Nashville, and it only got worse. But
Speaker 1: why didn't I get worse? Just so I think indie
Speaker 1: labels they weren't really able to get artists up the
Speaker 1: charts like they couldn't can now I feel like, do
Speaker 1: you kind of feel that way? Um? Yeah? I think
Speaker 1: it was extremely political. It continues to be a little bit.
Speaker 1: But I also think that there are people out there,
Speaker 1: taste makers, who are exposing people who wouldn't necessarily be
Speaker 1: up on that pedestal that they would be on if
Speaker 1: they were the chosen one at a major label. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: and like some heavy hit or radio people like John
Speaker 1: Marks is doing that with serious and John Marx is
Speaker 1: amazing to me. I think John Marks was someone who
Speaker 1: and he continues to be at Spotify, but he just
Speaker 1: played a song. The criteria was does he like it
Speaker 1: or not? It wasn't oh all the other bullshit that
Speaker 1: goes into like every decision that you know, like a
Speaker 1: radio station would have to make where their hands were tied.
Speaker 1: And I think even the most influential people at radio
Speaker 1: probably hate a lot of things about the system totally.
Speaker 1: They get crucified for it. It's like every business is
Speaker 1: going to have those drawbacks. Does that mean they're going
Speaker 1: to stop making music? No way. It's like, Okay, that
Speaker 1: sucks about that, but I'm sure that it will work
Speaker 1: in my favor someday and then it's like whatever. So
Speaker 1: at some point you were Margaret Duranti and then you
Speaker 1: had a big change and he swayed and you re emerged.
Speaker 1: Now I just keep as Maggie Rose though, and you
Speaker 1: came out with a new song, I Ain't Your Mama.
Speaker 1: So that was in the middle of all the indie deals. Yes,
Speaker 1: so that was actually I love that song. You were
Speaker 1: sassy hot, the vocals were great. Song was I. Um,
Speaker 1: I wish I still had that leopard dress. I don't
Speaker 1: have anything so smoking, thank you. I know. I think
Speaker 1: my dad was like, what the hell is that? Like
Speaker 1: the first season saw the video. Um, but you know,
Speaker 1: we've grown up MC grown ods woman. Yes you are.
Speaker 1: But that was really fun for me, And I think
Speaker 1: that it was more an act of like, you know,
Speaker 1: John Carmonica, he said this, and he wrote this. He's
Speaker 1: for the New York Times, so I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I believe him what he says, but he said it perfectly.
Speaker 1: It's like, I feel like it was more of an
Speaker 1: active liberation for her than reinvention. It's just like that
Speaker 1: was the more authentic thing for me. And yes, I
Speaker 1: think if you look at it on paper, it can
Speaker 1: seem contrived to be like, oh, you're changing your name
Speaker 1: and your look, but I was kind of untethering myself
Speaker 1: from all the mistakes that had been made up to
Speaker 1: that point, which was so, yeah, you don't even know
Speaker 1: what you're probably doing at that point, and you know,
Speaker 1: we were uh throwing a lot of money at the
Speaker 1: wrong things, and we were making compromises financially and artistically.
Speaker 1: And had I really even had time to write something
Speaker 1: from my soul I did, I wouldn't know what love
Speaker 1: was at that point. I hadn't had my heartbroken. But
Speaker 1: by that point when I started going by Maggie Rose,
Speaker 1: I had seen a lot, and I had been surprised
Speaker 1: by people and in wonderful ways and disappointed by people
Speaker 1: and others. We really started to get into the throes
Speaker 1: of life. Yes, And I even feel like the last
Speaker 1: year was like the this is gonna sound so stupid
Speaker 1: but cheesy, but it was like the Maggie Rose two
Speaker 1: point oh reinvention last year for me, because is not
Speaker 1: that every time I cut my hair. I love everything significant,
Speaker 1: but it was just another thing that I was like,
Speaker 1: all right, what else can I do? How versatile can
Speaker 1: we be? Because that to me, flexibility in this industry
Speaker 1: is what keeps you sane. And I think a flexible
Speaker 1: mind is a healthy mind just in general. But it's
Speaker 1: also like more lighthearted, the more of a chameleon I
Speaker 1: can be. Then I think it doesn't mean I'm unfocused.
Speaker 1: I think it just means that I'm forgiving of myself
Speaker 1: and of those boundaries that we all put around ourselves
Speaker 1: that having a really good times, you're better than ever.
Speaker 1: But tell me, where did magre like going back to
Speaker 1: the early days. Did you see how confused I got?
Speaker 1: I was like and then and then well there's just
Speaker 1: some man you can't remember. Really, Okay, there's so many
Speaker 1: pieces of the puzzle. Honestly, I had to write a
Speaker 1: timeline of my life the other day, like from this
Speaker 1: year to this year. I did this because it starts
Speaker 1: to blur together and stay with you, Like, you have
Speaker 1: so many pieces in your life and so many players.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of moving parts, have so many record deals,
Speaker 1: so many people that have invested in you, that believe
Speaker 1: in you. You know, where did Maggie Rose come from? Um,
Speaker 1: Maggie is just derived from Margaret. My dad always called
Speaker 1: me Maggie and Rose is my middle name and Duranti people.
Speaker 1: For some reason, I always thought it was easy to
Speaker 1: pronounce growing up. But of course that's like my bias perspective,
Speaker 1: but no one could ever pronounce it like Durante. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that is I think my Italian ancestors would like that,
Speaker 1: but Durante or Durant or you. And also like, I
Speaker 1: think that there's something nice about having that persona. I
Speaker 1: feel like, until you fake it till you make it.
Speaker 1: If I have fun as a character and I'm like
Speaker 1: I'm meant to bring people joy and entertain them, then
Speaker 1: that's the role I need to fill. That's who I
Speaker 1: need to be. So you know, when I'm hanging out
Speaker 1: with you and I'm hanging out with Austin and stuff,
Speaker 1: I'm Maggie A Marge a Mag's and Margaret and all
Speaker 1: the things. But Maggie Rose kind of helped me get
Speaker 1: into that mindset, like this is this is this is
Speaker 1: not a hobby, this is like this is for real.
Speaker 1: There is marketing behind it, There is a brand, and
Speaker 1: people shouldn't be embarrassed other artists of assuming that persona
Speaker 1: doesn't mean you're inauthentic. If anything, it means that you
Speaker 1: have a focus and an appreciation for what we're doing,
Speaker 1: and I think to having a persona like a stage persona. Honestly,
Speaker 1: Michael has that when he puts on his hat. You know,
Speaker 1: it's like all of a sudden, you know, that hat
Speaker 1: on and switch into like, Okay, I'm here to rock
Speaker 1: people's faces. Because you have to pep yourself up for it.
Speaker 1: You can't just walk out there as your average jump
Speaker 1: be like oh yeah, I'm just gonna seeing a couple
Speaker 1: of you can. But if you really want to be
Speaker 1: the entertainer, like I know you do, you have It's
Speaker 1: like Beyonce has Sasha fears. You know, I totally get
Speaker 1: behind that. Okay, you had. All of that happened like
Speaker 1: just like I feel like it was like, you know,
Speaker 1: just that you're swirling. It's all happened pivotal, Like eighty
Speaker 1: three was so many things happened. Twenty three when I
Speaker 1: started going by Maggie Rose, it was at the end
Speaker 1: of my twenty third year or whatever, and I just
Speaker 1: feel like it was those really uh dynamic years where
Speaker 1: you become an adult a little bit, and then the
Speaker 1: last couple of been like that other big transitional period
Speaker 1: to where um, I feel like instead of having to
Speaker 1: posture and do the persona of Okay, now it's time
Speaker 1: to be Maggie Rose, like, yeah, and you just are
Speaker 1: Maggie Ross. Did you know that you are yourself? What
Speaker 1: you really are? Though? And I love the short hair
Speaker 1: because it takes a bad as sometimes I want to
Speaker 1: just glue this to my head. You rocket, like you rocket,
Speaker 1: and it's your thing and it's edgy and it's hot
Speaker 1: and it looks so good on you. But aren't you
Speaker 1: kind of glad that you've got all that just swirl
Speaker 1: of stuff. It's figuring. It's just so you know, you
Speaker 1: know what you want to do. You know you've been
Speaker 1: through the ringer. But the thing that's so cool, You've
Speaker 1: consistently had powerhouses believe in you. So there is something
Speaker 1: that everyone sees in you that they always want to
Speaker 1: be a part of, which is so such a compliment.
Speaker 1: I feel like, well, thank you for saying that. I
Speaker 1: do think that my team right now is unbelievable. I
Speaker 1: also don't feel like I, like I said, last year,
Speaker 1: I was setting the table, but I wasn't like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I need this manager. This agency was just like Laura
Speaker 1: coming back into my life, and then Marvel is starting
Speaker 1: to get interested in Okay, what what does Maggie have
Speaker 1: going on? And then coming to my shows, and then
Speaker 1: he and I started having a great relationship and then
Speaker 1: started working together and signing with Mark Dennis and he's
Speaker 1: that Um, he's a badass agent at CIA. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: Meredith Jones and Kylan Sharp. So you have an incredible
Speaker 1: booking agency. They got me on Soul to Soul. We're
Speaker 1: going on tour with Faith and Tim. Yes, so I
Speaker 1: don't know stop when, I don't know when you're going
Speaker 1: to put this up, but it's going to be in August.
Speaker 1: And it's not the whole tour, of course, because they're
Speaker 1: trying to be really supportive of a bunch of Holy.
Speaker 1: How many how many shows are you playing? With the
Speaker 1: two in Philadelphia and one in Albany? You were playing
Speaker 1: no no are you breaked out like Faith and him?
Speaker 1: It was Thursday morning. I'm not ready to recover from this. Okay, Holy,
Speaker 1: you're going on tour Sol to Soul. It's yes. And
Speaker 1: Norvel called me and Thursday morning early and h I
Speaker 1: woke up and honestly I answered his call and he
Speaker 1: was like, hey, I want to be the first to
Speaker 1: tell you. He he'd probably been up for like seven
Speaker 1: hours at that point. He's like, I got some good
Speaker 1: news for Thursday morning, and you're going to be going
Speaker 1: out with Tim and Faith And I was in shock.
Speaker 1: I was like, I just wanted to get tickets to
Speaker 1: the show, like that was my goal. Is just to
Speaker 1: make sure that I secured some tickets to the national show.
Speaker 1: He's like, well, you're going now, so so you're doing
Speaker 1: the Nashville show. No, I wish, but who cares? I
Speaker 1: think that I'll be at the Nashville show. Yeah, And um,
Speaker 1: you're gonna know them. You're gonna sting on the same
Speaker 1: stage on their tour. Their legendary to me, To me too,
Speaker 1: like I also, their relationship is legendary to people who
Speaker 1: can be in the industry and work together and not
Speaker 1: get competitive about it and keep it together. I'm sure
Speaker 1: there were times where it wasn't easy, you know, the
Speaker 1: out like you and I are both were married to
Speaker 1: someone who's in this industry. But at least Austin and
Speaker 1: I aren't in the position where we compete with each other.
Speaker 1: It's symbiotic. I need him to make it work. He
Speaker 1: needs me, But he's not trying to be artist, right.
Speaker 1: I really appreciate an admire to have a couple that's
Speaker 1: an artist and they're super hot. Oh my god, Faith Hill,
Speaker 1: I swear to is one of the main reasons why
Speaker 1: I moved to Nashville. Yes, back in the day I
Speaker 1: saw her Ine and I Twain, I was like, I
Speaker 1: have to be there. I have got to be there.
Speaker 1: I went to both those shows, and those are some
Speaker 1: of my first concerts I've ever went to. Circle. You know,
Speaker 1: I read this quote and says, don't forget to be
Speaker 1: thankful for the things you thinks you have that you
Speaker 1: always wish for, something like that thanks you have now
Speaker 1: that you always wish for, Like now it feels so
Speaker 1: cool that you're on that show. But you're also kind
Speaker 1: of like probably like not shocked. Well, you know, I
Speaker 1: think I'm just there's like a quiet excitement because I
Speaker 1: also think it's a combination of nerves. And you know,
Speaker 1: this is gonna sound so sad, and I don't mean
Speaker 1: this in a sad way, but I feel like my
Speaker 1: joke with Sarah Tomaic, who you know very well, my
Speaker 1: drummer as we call my career, this is like so
Speaker 1: the is totally like my sarcastic humor. But we're like,
Speaker 1: we should name the next album Dangling Carrot, or the
Speaker 1: next tour is the Dangling Carrot Tour. Everything's always been
Speaker 1: the Dangling Carrot because there have been these amazing things,
Speaker 1: um that I feel like it's just like right there,
Speaker 1: come here, and we're like and we always just kind
Speaker 1: of come short from it. But I think that right
Speaker 1: now where I am, I don't feel that way. The
Speaker 1: first time you're visualizing, life was preparing you for this, Like, honestly,
Speaker 1: if you would have gotten it sooner, you might not
Speaker 1: have been the artist that you are. You know, maybe
Speaker 1: you hadn't evolved exactly to where you are into the
Speaker 1: Maggie Rose that you are truly right, and I hope
Speaker 1: that that is something that continues happening, because as painful
Speaker 1: as it can be, it's also really beautiful. And it
Speaker 1: is painful though, yes it's exhausting, but you know that's
Speaker 1: all part of it. If I could see my fifteen
Speaker 1: year old self, I'd be like, hey, everything is part
Speaker 1: of the pros says, including this stuff that makes you
Speaker 1: cry and want to give up. You know, it's also
Speaker 1: the really high points, Like, you know, I've had some
Speaker 1: really great things happened lately, And tell me the greatest
Speaker 1: things that happened that you can talk about, because a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff is happening that not all his announced
Speaker 1: and everything so like, and you have just a lot
Speaker 1: of exciting potential. Yeah, well, I mean I can. I
Speaker 1: obviously told you about this song that I wrote two
Speaker 1: and a half years ago that um Lady Gaga just cut.
Speaker 1: Now until I hear it on the radio, I don't
Speaker 1: believe it, but I know for a fact that she
Speaker 1: went into the studio and put her vocals on it,
Speaker 1: took time off from her Super Bowl rehearsals to cut
Speaker 1: the song, And I think that no one can never
Speaker 1: take that from me. She's even if it never makes
Speaker 1: an album or even a single or whatever. And I
Speaker 1: had a hand in writing the song with a bunch
Speaker 1: of other talented writers, but it was something that I
Speaker 1: never knew even two and a half years ago that
Speaker 1: she would ever hear. And we were writing it from
Speaker 1: my project and one of the girls that I wrote
Speaker 1: it with is also a great artist, And when it
Speaker 1: didn't look like it was gonna happen for me, she
Speaker 1: was going to cut it, and then someone else had
Speaker 1: it and it just sort of floated around. I never
Speaker 1: thought anything was going to come of it. And before Christmas,
Speaker 1: Lady Gaga and like, if you could, if you asked
Speaker 1: me to pick any artist who I think is like
Speaker 1: ballsy and brave right now in our generation, I would
Speaker 1: say her. I always would. But it's cool. Compliment freaks
Speaker 1: me out, though I'm like, Okay, that's awesome. It wasn't
Speaker 1: even really seeking that out, and it's just one of
Speaker 1: those beautiful things that comes to you when you're you
Speaker 1: have your head down and you're working on all this
Speaker 1: other stuff. I forget about all the seeds that I've
Speaker 1: been planting. Maybe they've been watered this whole time, and
Speaker 1: what if they all sprout at the same time, right,
Speaker 1: And you know that being part of this catalog that
Speaker 1: I own now that you know, we Austin and I
Speaker 1: were saving money for our first house, this down payment,
Speaker 1: and instead we invested in ourselves and we, with a
Speaker 1: bunch of family members and family friends, bought it back.
Speaker 1: And it's just because I wanted to. I didn't want
Speaker 1: those songs to languish around. I think that you know,
Speaker 1: I wrote those while I was a Play It Again
Speaker 1: and it was such a great space. Is that a
Speaker 1: publishing company? Yes, played it again as publishing company that
Speaker 1: Dallas Davidson started. And then you know when we parted ways.
Speaker 1: You know, I can't ever deny that those two years
Speaker 1: that I was there, I wrote my ass off and
Speaker 1: some of the best songs I've ever written. You wanted
Speaker 1: those songs right well, and I think that we I
Speaker 1: wanted to see them come to fruition. And I know
Speaker 1: that if I take that into my hands and those
Speaker 1: songs won't sit around, and not that they wouldn't necessarily,
Speaker 1: but I'm making an album and a lot of that
Speaker 1: I wrote while I was there, And it's nice to
Speaker 1: you let me back, but you know now I wait
Speaker 1: to buy my house. Hey, you know what, You can
Speaker 1: always buy a house, but when you're going to seize
Speaker 1: the day when it comes to your art, and I
Speaker 1: think that's just like part of the crazy, like excitement
Speaker 1: and not drama, but like taking a risk of myself. Yes,
Speaker 1: there's I'm proud to invest in myself that way. And
Speaker 1: in Austin, I'm pointing that way because my house is
Speaker 1: over there, stir away. No, it's snowing in Nashville today,
Speaker 1: So I mean talk about like freezing. It was sunny
Speaker 1: and perfect yesterday. Now it's snowing, and I was like
Speaker 1: a woman, you never know what you're gonna get. We
Speaker 1: love it, we love it. But that's so cool that
Speaker 1: you and Austin are doing this together as a co
Speaker 1: you know, he's just invested as you are. Like, I
Speaker 1: feel like that is so great And I have no
Speaker 1: problem talking about this. But I'm showcasing for labels in
Speaker 1: town right now, and I just had one last week
Speaker 1: that went so well. And the way that we're doing
Speaker 1: it because I didn't get here yesterday I've been here
Speaker 1: for a long time, is we're just showing all this
Speaker 1: music that I've been writing. I'm making an album with
Speaker 1: Jimmy Robbins. He's oh, he's amazing. He's amazing, and we're
Speaker 1: co producing. But basically I had cut songs before he
Speaker 1: came in and I sat around for a while and
Speaker 1: I think it's just like anything when you the and
Speaker 1: I'm sure you've seen this meme, but it's like creative process.
Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, this might be good, this is awesome,
Speaker 1: this is this is the best song ever. And then
Speaker 1: you're like, okay, I don't know, this is ship. I
Speaker 1: suck okay, and it just goes this sex then I
Speaker 1: suck yeah, and then you're just like I quit back again.
Speaker 1: And I think, you know, with all the drama of
Speaker 1: like us relocating to new company, management, new agency, new publishing,
Speaker 1: everything new, and then our dog got real sick. Was
Speaker 1: just like this, that's a heavy loof. We had just
Speaker 1: gotten married and hey, you know what if you can
Speaker 1: my grandparents and just all this stuff. It was crazy.
Speaker 1: Maybe God was like I'm gonna really put you guys
Speaker 1: to the ring or to just get your marriage nice
Speaker 1: and strong in the beginning, right. So this is from
Speaker 1: like when I cut the songs in August. I was
Speaker 1: just doing this by myself, no one helping me produce it.
Speaker 1: And then I kind of doubted myself for a little bit,
Speaker 1: and then I got back to a point where I
Speaker 1: was like, no, this needs to be done. And Jimmy
Speaker 1: and I wrote together and it was like it just
Speaker 1: became apparent that we had great chemistry. Um, Nicole Calwson
Speaker 1: and Jimmy and I have written a bunch of songs
Speaker 1: for the project now and then in the studio, like
Speaker 1: it's just Nicole just wrote she one song of the
Speaker 1: Year of the Automist, Freak of Nature. I love writing
Speaker 1: with her and she'll just like be over there kind
Speaker 1: of typing. Then she'll spit out like an entire line
Speaker 1: and you're like, all right, like I love everything about that,
Speaker 1: and I'm not just like sometimes I want to censor it.
Speaker 1: Just something so I'm showing that like I'm listening, but
Speaker 1: you're like, I'm not just a yes person. But she
Speaker 1: really is just like really talented, just a beautiful mind
Speaker 1: and not not in like the weird movie way where
Speaker 1: he's like a schizophrenic because she's so smart he doesn't
Speaker 1: actually see other people make stories about them. She's brilliant.
Speaker 1: And Jimmy his heart is massive, but he's also a boss.
Speaker 1: Like in the studio there, it's not mindless production. They're
Speaker 1: intricate choices being made. So tell me about the choices
Speaker 1: being made for this album that you're making. What's it
Speaker 1: gonna sound like? And then I'll actually before tell me this.
Speaker 1: And then I wanted to recap on the Ride Show
Speaker 1: because we didn't really talk about that album. I know,
Speaker 1: I asked me about it, and then I went off
Speaker 1: under a tangent about Okay, we'll make our way back around.
Speaker 1: Tell me about what this album is going to be.
Speaker 1: This album it's the Variety Show was just something I
Speaker 1: had to that was that wasn't traditional country music. No,
Speaker 1: and I think some of it wasn't country at all,
Speaker 1: and a lot of people, um, you know, you have
Speaker 1: to check a box when you put a song or
Speaker 1: album out on iTunes, And given all the time I
Speaker 1: had invested in country, I was like, well, I'm going
Speaker 1: to market this too country because that's where my fans
Speaker 1: are and the people have supported me. And you know,
Speaker 1: some of the people that I probably would never be
Speaker 1: able to have too long of a conversation with in
Speaker 1: real life were like, this isn't country, and it's like
Speaker 1: I never said it was, but it has to be something.
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, the Variety Show. It was something
Speaker 1: I had to make just to say I'm not done
Speaker 1: making music. And you killed it. The album Same Sky
Speaker 1: I put on repeat over and over and over again.
Speaker 1: And not that anyone thought I was done making music,
Speaker 1: but because that's what we output, I had to put
Speaker 1: something out And thank you for saying that about I
Speaker 1: loved getting your own videos of you singing it in
Speaker 1: the car with some friends was like, Maggie Rose has
Speaker 1: a right what so good? Well? And Leslie fram and
Speaker 1: she's over at CMT the biggest female advocate and country
Speaker 1: she's insane. And Stacy Kato and Jordan Walker like that
Speaker 1: whole crew. Oh, I'm going out on the CMT Next
Speaker 1: Woman Tour, next huge deal. So Martin headlining. Talk to
Speaker 1: me about Martina McBride, who I'm really excited. Her crew
Speaker 1: has been amazing. They're basically letting us use their gear
Speaker 1: to play our twenty minutes set. And Postman Rowe there
Speaker 1: at Starstruck as well, and a trio females who are awesome. Yes,
Speaker 1: they're great and really fun to be around. I'm excited
Speaker 1: to be on the road with them. But we're around
Speaker 1: thing because um my guitar player and drummer are going
Speaker 1: to play for both of us. Because there was one
Speaker 1: or two weekends where I was going to be in
Speaker 1: Mexico for a songwriting festable I know it sounds just terrible,
Speaker 1: so they're going to play with Postman Rome at those
Speaker 1: dates too. But it's just like awesome. It's right where
Speaker 1: I want to be, especially at the beginning of the Year,
Speaker 1: Laura Lena, it's you and Postman I will switch off
Speaker 1: and then Laura Lena and Martina mcbrian CMT Next One
Speaker 1: of Country Tour. Yes, and you also renamed CMT Next
Speaker 1: Woman of Country, which is a big deal to get
Speaker 1: inducted in those classes and pretty much is like, these
Speaker 1: are the women to look out for their coming through
Speaker 1: in country music. That's what I watched growing up. I
Speaker 1: watched c MT music video countdowns like in my friends basement,
Speaker 1: and it's really cool to see myself on their countdowns
Speaker 1: in their Next Woman of a Country segment. It's really
Speaker 1: it's I think it's gonna be great energy for this.
Speaker 1: And Laura Lena is so she's positive, just dropped her album. Yes,
Speaker 1: what obviously Martinez Martina, I mean, she's the queen. I know.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty excited hoping to hang out with her. She's
Speaker 1: like this small and her voice is so massive. Stay
Speaker 1: with you. She's smaller than me. I've been next to her.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I'm tall today. It's awesome. How exciting though,
Speaker 1: especially coming out of like you said, Tens set the table,
Speaker 1: you had a lot of like growing pains, a lot
Speaker 1: of change and now it's like, Okay, you got your manager,
Speaker 1: you got your team, you got some incredible tours, faith
Speaker 1: in tim seme teen Next Women tour. Are you just
Speaker 1: like feeling light as a feather? And yes I am,
Speaker 1: and getting this album wrapped up and with a great producer,
Speaker 1: someone you're driving with, like yes, and who genuinely cares
Speaker 1: about making an awesome the music and oh we didn't
Speaker 1: talk about okay, so tell me about the sound for
Speaker 1: this album. Variety Show was like, I'm kind of showing
Speaker 1: you all my sides. It was all over the place. Yes,
Speaker 1: And I was going to do a Volume two because
Speaker 1: at that time I had a massed so much me
Speaker 1: zick that I was like, okay, and I'll just put
Speaker 1: another one out in a couple of months. It might
Speaker 1: be a little more aggressive in the pop direction. But
Speaker 1: I didn't really have this opportunity, like it hadn't quite
Speaker 1: formed yet where I could make this record with Jimmy
Speaker 1: and Norvel wasn't in the picture. So at that point
Speaker 1: I thought I might just really enjoy putting out these
Speaker 1: crazy kind of like tapestry Carol King things, except I
Speaker 1: wish Carol King is just amazing. But I loved that
Speaker 1: she did that she was a writer, and I got
Speaker 1: to a point where I was like, maybe I'll just
Speaker 1: be like the crazy writer who like performs shows every
Speaker 1: now and then. Now you are, I would have died.
Speaker 1: I love it. That's such and I think it's cyclical
Speaker 1: for me. I know that you know, creativity is, but
Speaker 1: I need to be performing to fill the well so
Speaker 1: that I can go back and write and vice versa.
Speaker 1: That like I need to be hibernating and like fat
Speaker 1: and happy writing and then out on the in my
Speaker 1: lean and not quite literally, but yeah, that is part
Speaker 1: of it where it's like, go let off, go let
Speaker 1: have to take time for I'll burn out. And that's
Speaker 1: why I feel like I've been doing this for ten
Speaker 1: years without ever taking a break, even though I may
Speaker 1: have not been releasing music commercially the Pavement. So what
Speaker 1: can we expect in this album? This album is going
Speaker 1: to be more cohesive. Obviously, The Variety Show intended to
Speaker 1: be the opposite um, which is why bringing Jimmy in
Speaker 1: to produce with me was just like so important because
Speaker 1: he offers that other perspective where he could see he's
Speaker 1: written so many hits from patching music too, so he's
Speaker 1: got a pulse. It's almost like having an A and
Speaker 1: R and a producer. Yes, your old man. Yes. And
Speaker 1: he's perfect, you know, down to just like pulling everything
Speaker 1: together and the bigger picture beyond just this sonic part
Speaker 1: of it. I think he's very strategic and comprehensive there.
Speaker 1: But it's it's got like a cool little swag. It's
Speaker 1: R and B feeling, but it's a country record. And
Speaker 1: if you were going to put yourself in company with
Speaker 1: three other artists that that they would not sound alike,
Speaker 1: but they would blend well together. Who would you add
Speaker 1: to that collection? Um? I think there's I mean, I
Speaker 1: love what Marion Morris is doing. I know that that's
Speaker 1: like not original. Everyone loves what Marion Morris is doing
Speaker 1: right now. I think she's really done a lot for
Speaker 1: just like pushing those boundaries Carol King I mentioned her already,
Speaker 1: but I think like those writing and the lyric intention
Speaker 1: behind her songs in that sense of self is really
Speaker 1: strong in there. Trying to think of a third and
Speaker 1: I think it might be more like stylistically, m M,
Speaker 1: who am I thinking of? I don't know, I need
Speaker 1: to think of that, but there's like ah, there's definitely
Speaker 1: an adult subject matter in some songs, but there's also
Speaker 1: on the other end, like I think I'm catering to
Speaker 1: a demographic that might be um like the people who
Speaker 1: would listen to Taylor Swift too earlier. There's an adult
Speaker 1: subject matter because you're an adult and I'm an adult woman,
Speaker 1: and I think that there is a place for that,
Speaker 1: like adults music. Also that I think Shania had this
Speaker 1: sensuality about her but also was super fun and again
Speaker 1: really creative Shania. It's like, oh, that's a risky one.
Speaker 1: No one loves Shania. Everyone loves Shania. She kind to
Speaker 1: put herself out there. Yes, And I think you know,
Speaker 1: she was sexy and she wasn't afraid of that and
Speaker 1: she um, she was like a little bit of like
Speaker 1: Countries Madonna suld reinvent herself and I hope she would
Speaker 1: appreciate that as a compliment. But like there is something
Speaker 1: I mean, being powerful and in touch with your sexuality
Speaker 1: and your confidence and your intelligence and not using your
Speaker 1: sexuality because you're like, oh, I want to like try
Speaker 1: to make everyone see how hot and awesome. It's because
Speaker 1: you feel good. It's it comes from within. It's not
Speaker 1: trying to get everyone out there to make out, but like, yes,
Speaker 1: you feel good and you're always a plus side. Yes.
Speaker 1: I have actually had struggled that a little bit of
Speaker 1: just like embracing my sexuality because I don't want to
Speaker 1: be like, oh, I'm just trying to get all these
Speaker 1: people to think I'm so hot, because that's not it.
Speaker 1: It's just owning your womanhead and feeling great. And trust me,
Speaker 1: from the outside, it does not look like you have
Speaker 1: a problem with that. I feel like you look like
Speaker 1: you're having fun and you're lighthearted, and I think that
Speaker 1: that's also like my style, like fashion wise lighthearted. It's
Speaker 1: ame thing with like do you ever feel like you're
Speaker 1: getting too in a uniform? Then I think that that
Speaker 1: goes from being focused to just being closed off and
Speaker 1: kind of regimented. And it works in a lot of
Speaker 1: aspects of life, but not necessarily from my music or
Speaker 1: what I put on to wear. I love that you
Speaker 1: love fashion too, though, Like fashion is a big part
Speaker 1: of you. I feel like it is. I feel well, yeah,
Speaker 1: and sometimes I miss but I think that means I'm trying.
Speaker 1: But you like really embrace it and go for it,
Speaker 1: and like have really developed a style with it, which
Speaker 1: I love, Thanks Carol. I love it, even to your hair,
Speaker 1: the way you cut your hair, like it's such a statement.
Speaker 1: It's awesome, like it's thank you. I think there's nothing
Speaker 1: to hide behind and it, you know, I get out
Speaker 1: the door a little bit quicker, which I used to
Speaker 1: spend five minutes when my hair was down to here.
Speaker 1: It's all like wavy because it was before I had
Speaker 1: processed it like this. It comes out of my head
Speaker 1: like this, okay. But I there's power to that too.
Speaker 1: I think it's just a different stage of my life.
Speaker 1: And I had had it. I'd had it and enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: And there are times where I look at your like long, beautiful,
Speaker 1: luscious locks, beautiful, and I get but you rocket though,
Speaker 1: it's your thing, thank you, startling your thing. Thank you.
Speaker 1: It's it's fun, nothing to hide behind, Okay, So tell me.
Speaker 1: Obviously a bunch of things are getting crossed off your
Speaker 1: bucket list this year. What is on your bucket list?
Speaker 1: I would love to take Austin to Europe and go
Speaker 1: touring in Europe, but that will definitely happen. I don't
Speaker 1: know if that's I want to be, you know, logical
Speaker 1: with the logistics of my touring schedule and when it's
Speaker 1: optimal to go there. But that is definitely something I'm
Speaker 1: going to do. Um. Putting this album out will be
Speaker 1: a huge bucket list. Just to get that sophomore album out.
Speaker 1: I think that's one of the most don things for
Speaker 1: an artist is to be like, Okay, I'm gonna try
Speaker 1: this again. Let's do it. Um, you know, continuing to play,
Speaker 1: keeping my band together. I know these sound not like
Speaker 1: lifetime achievement things, but that those are my dreams right now.
Speaker 1: Is just keeping this momentum going. I would love to
Speaker 1: see Lady Gaga performing this song, hopefully at the Grammys.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not trying to be yeah, yes, that'd
Speaker 1: be go. I want to go to the Grammys next year,
Speaker 1: um in two thousand eighteen and be nominated. Yes, But
Speaker 1: I also like, I want to get back on stages
Speaker 1: where like I'm reaching a lot of people because that
Speaker 1: is what made me feel so alive and it made
Speaker 1: me want to jump on social media every day. Was
Speaker 1: that rapport and I missed that and I think that
Speaker 1: these last two years I've felt more behind the scenes
Speaker 1: because of that, and I've still been touring and doing shows,
Speaker 1: but not at a rigor that I was before. So
Speaker 1: you're ready to get back out there. Yeah, I am,
Speaker 1: And I think you know, first things first with the
Speaker 1: music and finishing this. But I think most of the
Speaker 1: content is almost written, and then we go in and
Speaker 1: we tweak it. We work on that. But once it's
Speaker 1: written and laid down the first time, then I can
Speaker 1: go out and tour, tweak, go out and tour and
Speaker 1: come back and finding my home. I think with the label,
Speaker 1: either here in Nashville or in l A will be
Speaker 1: a big step for me because I haven't offered myself
Speaker 1: up for that. Hey Tommy, what she went up to? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think he's in management now, but I mean
Speaker 1: my my just for fun. Yeah, yeah, this is what
Speaker 1: I've been doing since we last spoke. Just in case
Speaker 1: you were wondering, Yes, he might know. He might know
Speaker 1: what's going on. He probably doesn't really keeps the pulse
Speaker 1: on you. We'll see. I'll reach out. I'll call him
Speaker 1: right when we're done. Yeah, just to bring them on
Speaker 1: a Sunday. I love it. Okay, So I think have
Speaker 1: we pretty much covered all. I'm missing something. I mean
Speaker 1: I'm missing a million because your life is so interesting,
Speaker 1: Your life is so interesting. The girl you are the
Speaker 1: shining start. But I do I do feel like it's
Speaker 1: such a walkdown memory lane. I couldn't piece some of
Speaker 1: this earlier stuff together. And I think that's good. I
Speaker 1: feel like I've not suppressed it, but I've moved past
Speaker 1: it on. I love that, Okay. So I like to
Speaker 1: wrap up with leave your light, So leave some inspiration
Speaker 1: of how you have been inspired or how you would
Speaker 1: like to inspire people. I have been inspired by a
Speaker 1: lot of people. Um my mom, it's definitely someone and
Speaker 1: my dad. Their support is crazy, unwavering. But and I
Speaker 1: always missed this quota, but it was something very memorable
Speaker 1: that she said to me over the phone, where she says,
Speaker 1: I want you to write a book, and maybe I
Speaker 1: should because then I'll keep my details straight when I'm
Speaker 1: telling people about my earlier years in my career. She's like,
Speaker 1: write a book and act like act like I'm never
Speaker 1: going to read it, basically saying, put every gnarly dirty detail.
Speaker 1: And that's a great permission from your mom. Yes, And
Speaker 1: we have a great relationship, my parents and I. She
Speaker 1: just lets you be yourself and honest, right, And I
Speaker 1: think yes, that comes with me being an adult now
Speaker 1: and all the things we've been through, because there's not
Speaker 1: a single heartbreak or celebration that you know, my parents
Speaker 1: haven't been made aware of. But that was really cool
Speaker 1: permission to be given because I think that if you're
Speaker 1: inhibited as an artist, some of the first people that
Speaker 1: will inhibit you are the ones that you know you
Speaker 1: want to behave around. And everyone has that one person
Speaker 1: they think at first and they're like, oh gosh, this
Speaker 1: person wouldn't approve of this behavior. But it's also I
Speaker 1: think her showing full acceptance of me and trusting in
Speaker 1: my integrity and my artistry that you know, whatever I
Speaker 1: do right, even if it's a little bit um, you know,
Speaker 1: out of the box, or if it pushes boundaries that
Speaker 1: I would find her to maybe raise an eyebrow at,
Speaker 1: that's still something that she wants me to put out there.
Speaker 1: And I think that's really empowering. And my parents are
Speaker 1: crazy fun. So do you have to leave them when
Speaker 1: they say that, do you have any inspiration you'd like
Speaker 1: to leave people? Yes, I think that you And it
Speaker 1: sounds really trite, but it's what we were saying. You
Speaker 1: can't get discouraged by the doors that are going to
Speaker 1: be slammed in your face, because that's going to happen
Speaker 1: a lot. And then you also can't not be present
Speaker 1: in the moments when the doors are open for you too,
Speaker 1: because I think people take for granted when they're given
Speaker 1: access to great opportunities, but the things that stick with
Speaker 1: them the longest are like the painful memories and growing pains. Yes,
Speaker 1: but I think if you appreciate both of them and
Speaker 1: you're present enough to realize when those things are happening,
Speaker 1: then you see the balance and you get patient with
Speaker 1: a bigger picture. Oh that is like Oprah would be like,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, that's an a Hall moment, like dropped
Speaker 1: the mike. I'm oh, I mean that is good? Or hey,
Speaker 1: I would That's my dream. That's my bucket list is
Speaker 1: super Soul Sunday with Oprah one day, yes, before I die,
Speaker 1: before she retires, which totally she never does. Before you die.
Speaker 1: That Okay, Maggie, thank you so much for joining me.
Speaker 1: I love you so much. I'm so excited me too.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be great. You kill it. You just got
Speaker 1: me ready for this year. I'm like, Okay, I gotta
Speaker 1: get to work. This is it, okay, Maggie Rose care.
Speaker 1: I hope you loved hearing from Maggie Rose, and y'all
Speaker 1: pay attention because she is about to blow up. Next week,
Speaker 1: I have Ali Ryan joining me. She is hair guru
Speaker 1: to all of the stars. She opened up an amazing
Speaker 1: place called the Dry House in Nashville. It was the
Speaker 1: first dry bar that we had. She does hairstyle. She
Speaker 1: has about twenty employees that do the most amazing hair,
Speaker 1: all these braids, great curls. She also does guys hair,
Speaker 1: and she does all the stars from Thomas Dright and
Speaker 1: his wife, Florida, Georgia Line and their wives. She does
Speaker 1: Dan and Shay their wives, and she also does Jay
Speaker 1: go In, she does Brittany and Jason al Dean, she
Speaker 1: does everyone. She does Little Big Town of Karen Fairchild,
Speaker 1: Casey Musgraves, Miranda Lambert. She colors and cuts all these
Speaker 1: stars hairs and we talk about everything. It is so
Speaker 1: great and she believes in the secret and the power
Speaker 1: of positive thinking. So I'm so excited to have Ali
Speaker 1: Ryan joining me next week.