WEBVTT - Player's Lounge: Ware Up There

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<v Speaker 1>This is the Players Lounge, broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>World headquarters at the Star. Now your hosts Barry Church,

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<v Speaker 1>Danny McCrae, Heckma Harrison and new He scrugs.

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<v Speaker 2>Signal the hat is off to the half of it

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<v Speaker 2>is on. Find your chair. Let's get ready, go to

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<v Speaker 2>rock bottom down if you got it.

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<v Speaker 2>Network on the Midcast Network. We're getting done. Heckma Harrison

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<v Speaker 2>is here, Danny McCrae is here. He's frustrated with Barry Church.

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<v Speaker 3>They we got a great argument that Dan got off.

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<v Speaker 4>He frustrated, But not me because I know I can

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<v Speaker 4>just look at the numbers and see.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, I tell you what they do. Agree with you.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Church. Come out on the field on left.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll talk about this on the breaking. This is from Pittsburgh.

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<v Speaker 2>Got Pittsburgh.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a valid argument, man. So anyway, what's up with you?

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<v Speaker 4>Knew he got your TCU on to day? What's going

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<v Speaker 4>you go to school today? That you go out to

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<v Speaker 4>the campus.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually today is the first day of the Executive NBA

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<v Speaker 3>class that I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Have to work back. How you put that work in? Else?

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<v Speaker 2>Know why he got that on? Huh? Because we didn't

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<v Speaker 2>ran them about it at Pittsburgh, Sir. With that trust

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<v Speaker 2>he got another school. Did you ever see the trustee?

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<v Speaker 2>I did? Right, a trust man.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you very He ain't came back up in there.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I know. It never said trustee. Lie, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>it didn't have trust girls. You know the flippers that

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<v Speaker 2>these guys tell the darkness?

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<v Speaker 3>Where is now the twenty third name of the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 3>were talking about it here on the planers.

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<v Speaker 2>Last the summer played the lottery dware you winning? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>So this this you know earlier this month inducting the

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<v Speaker 3>Pro Football Hall of Fame, and then this week finds

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<v Speaker 3>out that he's going into the Cowboys Ring of Honor

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<v Speaker 3>this year.

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<v Speaker 2>So I.

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<v Speaker 3>Feels more than deserved. And the unfortunate things. You have

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<v Speaker 3>to remind certain Cowboy people what he did here because

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<v Speaker 3>he won the Super Bowl with Denver. True, but the

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<v Speaker 3>guys all time leading sack artist here in this franchise,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm sorry, some pretty good players and played in

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<v Speaker 3>this uniform and won super Bowls and so to have

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<v Speaker 3>that number, and he's all time retired, all time top

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<v Speaker 3>ten in the NFL and sacks. So when I think

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<v Speaker 3>of the Ring of Honor, Tamarcus Ware belongs there. And

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<v Speaker 3>the fact that anybody's trying to push back, I find surprise.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, there there should be no pushback when you talk

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<v Speaker 5>about the Marcus where you know, being in the Ring

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<v Speaker 5>of Honor. I mean this guy, like you said, all

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<v Speaker 5>time sacks leader here, and I know he did his

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<v Speaker 5>work over there in Denver as well, winning a Super Bowl,

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<v Speaker 5>But I mean the prime, the bulk of his career

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<v Speaker 5>where he was doing the most work, where people are like, man,

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<v Speaker 5>you got a fear number ninety four.

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<v Speaker 2>It was here when he had a star on his helmet.

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<v Speaker 5>And to me, it couldn't happen to a better guy,

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<v Speaker 5>because even though he was a great football player, I

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<v Speaker 5>think he was even better man because of what he

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<v Speaker 5>did with those young guys coming in. No matter if

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<v Speaker 5>you were a first round or if you were undrafted,

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<v Speaker 5>he gave you his knowledge that he knew and he

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<v Speaker 5>passed it on, So it couldn't happen to a better man.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm super happy for Dwaar.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah I didn't obviously never played with a Deware, but

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<v Speaker 4>just knowing him as a person, one of the nicest

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<v Speaker 4>guys you ever want to meet. Those Christmas parties that

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<v Speaker 4>we used to have for the kids, they canceled them.

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<v Speaker 4>They're coming back this shit though.

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<v Speaker 2>Christmas parties.

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<v Speaker 4>My son would always want to take a picture with Dwaar,

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<v Speaker 4>and sometimes it would be after a massive loss and

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<v Speaker 4>he see it was gracious enough to take the picture.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, he's just a good dude. Yeah, man, cowboy.

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<v Speaker 4>Ring of honor though, how that is a massive, massive

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<v Speaker 4>honor for him as a player, and I'm sure one

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<v Speaker 4>that he couldn't have seen coming. And it's just the

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<v Speaker 4>people that are already in there, and just for him

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<v Speaker 4>to be included in that, it just speaks about who

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<v Speaker 4>he is as a player and the kind of numbers

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<v Speaker 4>and reputation that he had in the NFL period.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, shout out to Dwear everything, y'all said, great guy.

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<v Speaker 4>He was my locker my locker mate, my rookie year,

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<v Speaker 4>so taught me a lot made sure he took me

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<v Speaker 4>under his wing to show me how to be a professional.

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<v Speaker 4>So I got nothing but love for Dware and for

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<v Speaker 4>all the people who, like you said, who are pushing

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<v Speaker 4>back on dewear. He went to win a super Bowl

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<v Speaker 4>and dinner and all that stuff, and in the entirety

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<v Speaker 4>of his career here as a Dallas Cowboy player, it

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<v Speaker 4>has never been mentioned or thought of of him being

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<v Speaker 4>a reason why we haven't. Won't you look at it,

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<v Speaker 4>be like, man, we got Deworld on the team we

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<v Speaker 4>should be, and we owe it to him to then

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<v Speaker 4>be able to get to that because you have.

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<v Speaker 2>A player that great on your team. I e.

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<v Speaker 4>Like Michael Parsons, you say, this is a time and

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<v Speaker 4>that's a piece that you need to use to make

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<v Speaker 4>sure that you maximize it while they're here, because you

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<v Speaker 4>never know when you're gonna see another one again.

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<v Speaker 2>So shout out to Dware and the fact that he

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<v Speaker 2>did go to Denver. I was.

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<v Speaker 3>I was at a Toys r Us on Christmas, even

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<v Speaker 3>your neighborhood, and Dware, I'm there shopping. He happens to

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<v Speaker 3>be there, and it's that point in time where he

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<v Speaker 3>thought he was going to get cut and it was

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<v Speaker 3>pretty sure. Then we're gonna bring it back, contract everything,

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<v Speaker 3>and I said, you know you get enough job, right

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<v Speaker 3>you say?

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<v Speaker 2>And he was really he was that down.

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<v Speaker 3>And I won't say he lost confidence, but it was

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<v Speaker 3>just that moment of just trying to figure what's next

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<v Speaker 3>because he knew what was coming. And I was like, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>you go be Vine and he ends up going to Denver.

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<v Speaker 3>Von Miller needed DeMarcus Ware because if you remember, earlier

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<v Speaker 3>on his career, Vaughn had a couple issues.

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<v Speaker 2>D Ware got Von to where he needed to be

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<v Speaker 2>and I dare say.

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<v Speaker 3>This Vn's Super Bowl fifty MVP and the performance he

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<v Speaker 3>had was with and happened because of d Ware. And

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<v Speaker 3>then when he ends up going to Los Angeles and

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<v Speaker 3>he's around Aaron Donald. If you go look at the

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<v Speaker 3>NFL Films video afterwards, you see Donald run up to

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<v Speaker 3>Vaughn and say thank.

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<v Speaker 2>You, thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>Man.

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<v Speaker 3>Come to find out through Vaughn's agent that Vaughn had

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<v Speaker 3>spoken to Aaron Donald about needing to step up and

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<v Speaker 3>understanding his talent and that you are not as good

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<v Speaker 3>as you need to be. You got to go come

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<v Speaker 3>give it to us. And that was from what d

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<v Speaker 3>Ware taught him. And then I think about Iron Smith

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<v Speaker 3>All decade player. When Tyrant's drafted the first round, ninth

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<v Speaker 3>overall out of USC they had him working with where

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<v Speaker 3>and he was showing him those ropes of what he

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<v Speaker 3>needed to do, and he becomes an All decade player.

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<v Speaker 3>So I just think the impact of what that guy

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<v Speaker 3>when you talk about that's what ring of honor is.

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<v Speaker 2>That was just what he did. It's what he did

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<v Speaker 2>for other people.

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<v Speaker 3>Along the way that made them champions or and or

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<v Speaker 3>just some outstanding players. So I just think what you

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<v Speaker 3>guys talked about him as a man and what he means.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, hey, Michael Parsons came in here, started working

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<v Speaker 3>with him right out of the game.

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<v Speaker 2>That's true.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the man you called. You want to learn how

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<v Speaker 4>to do it? You called DeMarcus Ware and he's around

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<v Speaker 4>the facility too. But I want to go back to

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<v Speaker 4>that Super Bowl fifty victory man the Denver Broncos was

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<v Speaker 4>on cams and Von Miller, the way that his game

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<v Speaker 4>transformed with DeMarcus where you could tell that was a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of influence. So when you talk about that and

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<v Speaker 4>the way that he transformed him, I think that that

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<v Speaker 4>was you know very well illustrated from you because you

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<v Speaker 4>saw the change in his game as soon as de

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<v Speaker 4>Marcus got there. And and remembering that Carolina offense at

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<v Speaker 4>that time.

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<v Speaker 2>Stop one. They came there and beat up down, they

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<v Speaker 2>beat up and.

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<v Speaker 3>Was not good in that game. He didn't have much.

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<v Speaker 3>In fact, Peyton had told the Marcus beforehand basically, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>gonna give you what a.

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<v Speaker 2>Guy and that ain't when I give you what I got,

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<v Speaker 2>go get it done.

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<v Speaker 3>And sure enough they did, and they wore out Reamers

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<v Speaker 3>and the other tackles.

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<v Speaker 2>Man.

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<v Speaker 3>But h what what what that defense did that day?

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<v Speaker 4>They talk about this all the time on the players

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<v Speaker 4>lounges Man offense went out there that didn't really give

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<v Speaker 4>them much.

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<v Speaker 2>Huh what the defense do for him to win? Run

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<v Speaker 2>the ball? You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 4>Let your defense go out there and make those type

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<v Speaker 4>of players. Can they score for you? Can they can

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<v Speaker 4>they take the ball away for you?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes? They can?

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<v Speaker 4>When you're looking at a recipe for success, right and

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<v Speaker 4>I say this, our quarterback is better than Peyton Manning

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<v Speaker 4>was at that time. Our offense is better than Denver's

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<v Speaker 4>offense was at that time. We should be able to

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<v Speaker 4>do something based off the defense. When you look at

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<v Speaker 4>this defense and you look at Denver's defense, you say,

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<v Speaker 4>all right, Corparable, I like where you go. But that's

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<v Speaker 4>when the pressure gets on, when you say, all right, well,

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<v Speaker 4>if it doesn't happen, then will then what's the issue?

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<v Speaker 2>Uncle Wayne's coordinated that defense.

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<v Speaker 3>They was rolling, they were that was That was one

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<v Speaker 3>of the I dare say this, And I really feel

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<v Speaker 3>bad for Wade Phillips because that Rams team that lost

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<v Speaker 3>to New England. And what Wade's fault, Well, he'll tell

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<v Speaker 3>me that thirteen thirteen thirteen, he did his job. Wonder

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<v Speaker 3>boy didn't do his job, and Wonder Boys quarterback didn't

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<v Speaker 3>do their job. But thirteen points Hall of Fame Tom

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<v Speaker 3>Brady in the Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 2>You're supposed to get that, supposed to win that one.

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<v Speaker 3>For show point, I said, I'm glad Wade, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>God is what different because what he did with the

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<v Speaker 3>Ram I'm like, my goodness, gracious, that was one of

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<v Speaker 3>the better performances from a coordinator've ever seen.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, so so, y'all, I mean, q's his time.

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<v Speaker 2>Really you gotta get it going.

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<v Speaker 4>He got it one like he be there, like he

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<v Speaker 4>hasn't manufactured him a super Bowl winning out of a

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<v Speaker 4>like that, right, it.

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<v Speaker 2>Wasn't his fault what Richard, I was there. I couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>believe you mean you should have had three? Yeah? I

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<v Speaker 2>should have three? Exactly? You up twenty eight to three?

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<v Speaker 2>All right? Yeah? Coordinator who was a coordinator said should

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<v Speaker 2>have had three? Can we can we get him? But

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<v Speaker 2>can we give them number two away? Should look? They

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<v Speaker 2>this is you know, I'm not I'm not a hype person.

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<v Speaker 2>Not that's not what I eat it up to me.

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<v Speaker 2>I got you, but.

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<v Speaker 3>I did cover super Bowl team. I've seen what defensive

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<v Speaker 3>talent looks like here. They're not what Jimmy's last team

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<v Speaker 3>was here. Okay, they're not that, but they've got some

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<v Speaker 3>really good impact pieces that can put you in a

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<v Speaker 3>position to be good. We talked about Denver's unit, where

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<v Speaker 3>you had where you had Vaughan, Your DB's back there

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<v Speaker 3>between a key to leave Christy. They have some mean dbs.

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<v Speaker 3>You have a good defensive team that should put you there.

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<v Speaker 3>You played on a really good defensive team in Jacksonville

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<v Speaker 3>that had them right there.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. Oh yeah, that's why I want.

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<v Speaker 4>To make sure we you know, we don't gloss over

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<v Speaker 4>that like we have some impact pieces, but this and this.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, look when you talk about warts, right now, this

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<v Speaker 3>is the wart.

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<v Speaker 2>How do they fix the wart? It's a legitimate thing.

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<v Speaker 3>And we haven't seen a preseason game with these guys

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<v Speaker 3>out here all together to see exactly what it is

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<v Speaker 3>they need to do.

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<v Speaker 2>I spoke to I spoke to Tank Lord.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, related talk about wards and I'll get how great

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<v Speaker 5>the defense he is. If you can't take care of

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<v Speaker 5>the football, it's not gonna get done.

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<v Speaker 2>No, not true.

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<v Speaker 5>Peyton Manning, he might not have been painting from old

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<v Speaker 5>but what did they do? They ran the football, take

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<v Speaker 5>care of the football. We can't get this touchdowns, punt

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<v Speaker 5>it off to the defense. Let them do the work.

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<v Speaker 5>If we can't take care of the football here, I don't care.

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<v Speaker 5>If you've got parsons, you got this. You got a

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<v Speaker 5>whole on slot of defensive players, you're not gonna win

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<v Speaker 5>the games.

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<v Speaker 4>And when you have when you have a defense like that,

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<v Speaker 4>and you can turn Peyton Manning into a glorified bus driver,

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<v Speaker 4>it works simple for you. I think at this day

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<v Speaker 4>and age, and especially with Dak getting hurt last year,

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<v Speaker 4>I felt like he was pressing a lot through the season,

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<v Speaker 4>hence the turnovers. I'm not gonna give him any excuses

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<v Speaker 4>because I'm telling you I've ran Dak. I need AMMO

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<v Speaker 4>for these haters right now, Okay, because I'm surround, I can't.

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<v Speaker 2>Fight him off no longer. I need AMMO for these haters.

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<v Speaker 4>And he has to make the plays when they're needed

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<v Speaker 4>to be made. That San Francisco game, the one thing

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<v Speaker 4>that keeps showing the same interception over and over, the

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<v Speaker 4>one that hits number one hands and then it deflects

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<v Speaker 4>to the linebacker, like, hey, two guys could have accepted

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<v Speaker 4>that one pass. And we've seen the bad turnovers from Dak,

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<v Speaker 4>but his career wasn't built on that. Nothing about who

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<v Speaker 4>he has been in the league has been on oh,

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<v Speaker 4>he's just a turnover machine. But we're gonna take that

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<v Speaker 4>simple size, which this guy never lists me, take a

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<v Speaker 4>simple size of anything other than just these turnovers for

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<v Speaker 4>Dak right to say that, that's I'm just saying, you

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<v Speaker 4>don't so to say that, that's what you talk about.

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<v Speaker 4>That for the player, that's the player that he is,

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<v Speaker 4>and I don't believe that's who he is. But this

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<v Speaker 4>year he has to turn it, turn it around, especially

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<v Speaker 4>with the defense that he has. And it's comfortable to

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<v Speaker 4>that Peyton Manning Broncos team. It's comfortable to me to

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<v Speaker 4>that Baltimore Ravens twenty thirteen team. When you just want

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<v Speaker 4>to talk about def I'm talking about defense. Where with Flacco,

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<v Speaker 4>with Flacco is all, what does he have to be?

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<v Speaker 4>Just a glorified bus driver.

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<v Speaker 2>Get it done. Put your defense out there, let them

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<v Speaker 2>handle business. Joe was fantastic the postseason. Clarify, he was

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<v Speaker 2>really fantastic post He's.

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<v Speaker 4>He's talking about Barry. Okay, that's sample size. I said.

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<v Speaker 4>Dak is not the interception guy. He got to protect

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<v Speaker 4>the ball. But he's gonna be able to be different

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<v Speaker 4>this year. Turk is the guy. Okay, he's the guy

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<v Speaker 4>who yards about it.

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<v Speaker 2>He just said it just.

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<v Speaker 5>Because that's whatever. That's what we're doing here, that's what

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<v Speaker 5>everybody's doing. I'm just not putting put why I see it.

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<v Speaker 2>Last year.

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<v Speaker 5>Last year they were greating points number one offensite. They

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<v Speaker 5>turned the football over too much and for some reason,

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<v Speaker 5>that all went on KM that all went on.

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<v Speaker 3>My boy, Kelly Moore, don't got me. I don't see

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<v Speaker 3>him get blasted on social media and networks.

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<v Speaker 2>They I mean not even mentioning him. They're out there

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<v Speaker 2>loving us. He moved on. That's why that was years.

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<v Speaker 2>That was years in the vacant man. That was last year.

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<v Speaker 4>Just I'm going to offer that the number one no, no,

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<v Speaker 4>you make a valid point because Keller Moore had what

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<v Speaker 4>the number one, number one offense in the red zone,

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<v Speaker 4>number four and points, I mean everything statistical category that

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<v Speaker 4>absolutely gets you another contract. It's stopped this key hole

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<v Speaker 4>from working, could car from working around like me?

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<v Speaker 2>I can't, Hey, Dan, let us in man.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>looked at the team and was like that ain't it.

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<v Speaker 2>Will suh? I will fivecorn ready? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>You see me in my Saxy shirt. You know Saxy Football.

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<v Speaker 4>It's my baby. He's gonna be on on v to night.

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<v Speaker 4>But I gotta call the game tonight, so make sure

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<v Speaker 4>I support man. You know he'd be wearing that green,

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<v Speaker 4>So he'll be wearing that green. See you out there,

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<v Speaker 4>talk about flying.

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<v Speaker 2>You will forgive me, you will forgive me, You will

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<v Speaker 2>forgive me.

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<v Speaker 4>That's all I have to ask, Hey, that's my bfl

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<v Speaker 4>give my baby, do that Jerry gonna make the call?

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<v Speaker 2>Gonna let you go like Chris ba Yes, yes, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>nick Nicky make the call? Lord please? Will not be

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<v Speaker 2>something that they just called it. If she well, draft

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<v Speaker 2>happens all the week. Well I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, draft happens on Thursday Friday.

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<v Speaker 2>They tell her to come on down and get that

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<v Speaker 2>make the Yeah, hot, Would you cry as much as

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<v Speaker 2>Chris did? If I wouldn't, that would be no good.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I want to thank God.

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<v Speaker 3>That that was one of the coolest draft moments I've

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<v Speaker 3>ever seen, when when when Chris Bond got to make

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<v Speaker 3>the call to his son.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I still get chills.

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<v Speaker 3>Just watching that of just just that moment and then

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<v Speaker 3>just having seen having seen Deuce uh play twice in person,

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<v Speaker 3>just know, okay, this this this was a kid who

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<v Speaker 3>because of his height, you know, had been you counted

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<v Speaker 3>down and just all everything he just produced. Man, and

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<v Speaker 3>then just the way they loved him at Kansas State.

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<v Speaker 3>Just knowing that you know, this kid is gonna come

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<v Speaker 3>here and have if if provided the opportunity to do

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<v Speaker 3>the same things, and you know, the camp to all

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<v Speaker 3>the people who were wanting to be right.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just it's a great, cool story.

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<v Speaker 3>And and by the way, we've all agreed right here

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<v Speaker 3>on the players.

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<v Speaker 2>Deuce is on the team.

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<v Speaker 4>I think I think Dak agrees to Dak said he

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<v Speaker 4>can't wait. I can't wait to see so, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>so we don't. He doesn't need to shine.

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<v Speaker 2>He good, good, he good.

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<v Speaker 3>So, by the way, before we get in, who needs

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<v Speaker 3>to shine tomorrow? Dak was asked by Clarence Hill to

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<v Speaker 3>start telegram. How come he didn't get on the go

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<v Speaker 3>fly with Cooks?

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<v Speaker 2>What he said?

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<v Speaker 3>He said, I needed a drink and it was too

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<v Speaker 3>close to pregame, so I didn't. I didn't have a

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<v Speaker 3>drink to going up there with him, So like I need,

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<v Speaker 3>I need a drink to go do that.

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<v Speaker 2>So he did not fly. That's somebody called the soul plane.

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<v Speaker 2>See how that came down? He can't This is what

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<v Speaker 2>speaking of the soul plane.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, y'all, y'all, y'all old cats bro paying attention to Kevin,

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<v Speaker 4>don't get out that thing and you can run and

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<v Speaker 4>race and do all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Get out there.

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<v Speaker 4>Slip that on the soul playing reference. Okay, I don't

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<v Speaker 4>think about how the way to get it in with

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<v Speaker 4>the old schools and.

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<v Speaker 2>That man toys at Duster, he's the TODs. How do

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<v Speaker 2>you do that? Your ham and your abductor.

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<v Speaker 4>By the way, he was raising the former l s

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<v Speaker 4>U guy, Stephen Ridley, you know, the Patriots all that stuff. No, man,

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<v Speaker 4>don't get I don't never get a twisted man. Don't

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<v Speaker 4>worry about me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm good trying to race.

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<v Speaker 3>Greg Gallows was trying to get folks to sign up

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<v Speaker 3>for the church basketball game, the little three on three

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<v Speaker 3>tournamented church and and uh Clarence Hills a deacon there

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<v Speaker 3>with with Greg Gallois and and uh chilst I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>gonna pull no handstrings for the Lord.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree with having no kneeds no third So who needs?

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<v Speaker 2>Who needs to shine tomorrow against the Raiders? Is Mizi

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<v Speaker 2>Smith playing tomorrow? I hope? So? Yeah, Why wouldn't he?

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<v Speaker 2>That's it.

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<v Speaker 4>Y'all been hearing me, y'all been hearing me this whole time.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the only thing I want to see.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>One, if we're saying, if we're saying that he needs

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<v Speaker 4>more reps, he needs to figure out how to use

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<v Speaker 4>his technique more than just his strength and God given ability.

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<v Speaker 4>Then the best way for you to get that is

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<v Speaker 4>in live game reps against competition that is not your teammates,

0:23:29.600 --> 0:23:31.520
<v Speaker 4>as guys who are out there trying to make some

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<v Speaker 4>money and get their spot on the roster, so you're

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<v Speaker 4>gonna get one hundred percent of what they got. I

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<v Speaker 4>want to see mis Smith make a step forward. I

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<v Speaker 4>want to see it don't have to be everything's perfect.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to see that he is understanding that technique

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<v Speaker 4>is a little bit more important for him right now

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<v Speaker 4>than it was back when he was at Michigan. All Right,

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<v Speaker 4>That's all I want to see, because I really believe

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<v Speaker 4>wholeheartedly that if this defense is going to be like

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<v Speaker 4>what we spoke about in the show who was was

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<v Speaker 4>It Wolf? Who was THEO?

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<v Speaker 2>It was Wolf?

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<v Speaker 4>If they're gonna if they're gonna be what we want

0:24:06.200 --> 0:24:08.399
<v Speaker 4>them to be, you gotta be able to stop the.

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<v Speaker 2>Run and not the whole game.

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<v Speaker 4>But we need you to make some of those plays

0:24:12.640 --> 0:24:15.879
<v Speaker 4>in those big time moments third and one, third and

0:24:16.280 --> 0:24:20.800
<v Speaker 4>third and one, right, fourth and one, you know, third,

0:24:20.960 --> 0:24:22.920
<v Speaker 4>second and six, and then making it third night because

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<v Speaker 4>you canna stop them in the back. Some of those

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<v Speaker 4>type of players. I ain't talking about sacks. We know

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<v Speaker 4>we got that. I want to see somebody be able

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<v Speaker 4>to get in there insure up that gap that we've

0:24:31.720 --> 0:24:34.199
<v Speaker 4>been talking about for the last few years. Yeah, my

0:24:34.280 --> 0:24:37.000
<v Speaker 4>man Monzi was drafted for the situation that fourth and

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<v Speaker 4>one that you talk at third and one you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 4>We took a lot of gashes in the running game

0:24:40.600 --> 0:24:43.680
<v Speaker 4>from Philly and from the forty nine ers. So I

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<v Speaker 4>really this this segment should be should be labeled, you know, Tucky.

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<v Speaker 2>Chain or wear it in the rain. You know who

0:24:51.240 --> 0:24:53.960
<v Speaker 2>is the authentic article and who is fake?

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<v Speaker 4>Because we're trying to figure out who's gonna who's gonna

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<v Speaker 4>load up, who's gonna go.

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<v Speaker 2>With us right now?

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<v Speaker 4>And it's those third and fourth level guys that we

0:25:01.760 --> 0:25:04.959
<v Speaker 4>still have question marks around. And look, I know that

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<v Speaker 4>April fourth this year when we signed Hankins, I think

0:25:09.480 --> 0:25:10.480
<v Speaker 4>that solidified what.

0:25:10.440 --> 0:25:12.360
<v Speaker 2>We were looking at in the defensive line.

0:25:12.600 --> 0:25:17.120
<v Speaker 4>Quinn, guys like bo Hannah that are gonna be behind Hankins.

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<v Speaker 4>That to me, it solidifies what we need in our

0:25:20.560 --> 0:25:24.520
<v Speaker 4>one tech to gobble up blocks and allow our linebackers

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<v Speaker 4>to run downhill. Mazie didn't look good. There's no other

0:25:28.200 --> 0:25:29.920
<v Speaker 4>way to put it. He didn't look good in practicing

0:25:30.119 --> 0:25:32.399
<v Speaker 4>one on ones the bull rush all that. That's fine.

0:25:32.520 --> 0:25:34.439
<v Speaker 4>He showed a little bit of his immaturity with the

0:25:34.480 --> 0:25:36.320
<v Speaker 4>comment that he made I just like to head people.

0:25:36.119 --> 0:25:36.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't like.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, let's say, let's ask the young man to

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<v Speaker 4>grow up, and maybe this year is going to be

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<v Speaker 4>a learning process for him. It may be the all

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<v Speaker 4>of those things that you're asking him to do. He

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<v Speaker 4>can be that for us maybe later in the season,

0:25:49.640 --> 0:25:52.800
<v Speaker 4>because right now it don't look like jaylober No, no, no,

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<v Speaker 4>if he is. If he is, maybe the same rules

0:25:55.480 --> 0:25:55.840
<v Speaker 4>will flock.

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<v Speaker 2>You're giving up first rune when you lose. Heck, that's real.

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<v Speaker 4>No, you know, I see I thought I put a

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<v Speaker 4>bow on that, bro.

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<v Speaker 2>Did it sound like I was?

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<v Speaker 4>I've lost That sounds like you're read certain the guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe he's gonna be.

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<v Speaker 4>A guy who can do that for us in the future,

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<v Speaker 4>not the immedia future, but later off of like next

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<v Speaker 4>year future. So let me say this, like, he's not

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<v Speaker 4>Aaron Donald yet, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. And this is the thing.

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<v Speaker 4>When I start talking about a guy like Aaron Donald,

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<v Speaker 4>who is an oddity because he's an inside pass rusher.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, we're not gonna ask him to be that

0:26:38.119 --> 0:26:39.760
<v Speaker 4>same piece in our defense, and so.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, but what what is it?

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<v Speaker 4>He's getting reached, he's getting misplaced, misplaced, he's getting turned.

0:26:47.720 --> 0:26:49.680
<v Speaker 2>Those are the things that you cannot have happen.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm just like you, man, I'm gonna be looking

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<v Speaker 4>at number fifty eight tomorrow seeing what he does.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, red shirt, he ain't gonna gonna be.

0:27:03.240 --> 0:27:05.920
<v Speaker 5>But for my dude, I need to have a good game.

0:27:05.920 --> 0:27:07.720
<v Speaker 5>It's not for him to make the team. I feel

0:27:07.720 --> 0:27:09.560
<v Speaker 5>like he's already on the team, but to get a

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<v Speaker 5>bigger role. And that's Marquis Bell. You know, after we

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<v Speaker 5>saw or the reports out there that he's gonna go

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<v Speaker 5>down there and play a little bit of linebacker as well,

0:27:16.200 --> 0:27:18.440
<v Speaker 5>kind of that hybrid safety role. But if he's able

0:27:18.440 --> 0:27:20.040
<v Speaker 5>to go down there and dominate, or if he's able

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<v Speaker 5>to go out there and show out maybe this game

0:27:22.480 --> 0:27:23.719
<v Speaker 5>and then you know, he gets a little bit more

0:27:23.720 --> 0:27:26.080
<v Speaker 5>reps in that first regular season game. If he's able

0:27:26.119 --> 0:27:27.600
<v Speaker 5>to ball out, they can carve out a nice little

0:27:27.680 --> 0:27:29.199
<v Speaker 5>niche for him because we know the two safeties they

0:27:29.200 --> 0:27:29.800
<v Speaker 5>already got paid.

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<v Speaker 2>Youre talking about Wilson, you talking about what they getting paid. Curse.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know what's going on with the whole year.

0:27:35.280 --> 0:27:37.880
<v Speaker 5>Gart What I'm saying guarantee the whole year. So we'll

0:27:37.880 --> 0:27:39.359
<v Speaker 5>see what happens. But if he goes out there and

0:27:39.400 --> 0:27:41.520
<v Speaker 5>balls out, he can carve himself a nice little role

0:27:41.880 --> 0:27:43.879
<v Speaker 5>on this defense and hopefully in the future he can

0:27:43.920 --> 0:27:44.520
<v Speaker 5>ball out as well.

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<v Speaker 4>Who is it safety that went to play that position?

0:27:48.840 --> 0:27:53.240
<v Speaker 4>Move down a little bit for Mark Mark Barron. Can

0:27:53.240 --> 0:27:55.200
<v Speaker 4>you watch the tape on Mark Barron and say, hey,

0:27:55.560 --> 0:27:57.720
<v Speaker 4>he's paid off of that too. Yeah, and let's see,

0:27:57.800 --> 0:27:59.560
<v Speaker 4>let's see if you can play that role because he

0:27:59.640 --> 0:28:02.000
<v Speaker 4>was he was effective when they moved them me because

0:28:03.800 --> 0:28:05.679
<v Speaker 4>he was effective they found in these form and he

0:28:05.720 --> 0:28:07.320
<v Speaker 4>went out there and you know, he did what he's

0:28:07.320 --> 0:28:09.480
<v Speaker 4>supposed to do. So if that's the role that you

0:28:09.480 --> 0:28:12.160
<v Speaker 4>were thinking of, you know, Bill getting down there to play,

0:28:12.200 --> 0:28:13.879
<v Speaker 4>then you know, if he could be that, then that

0:28:14.160 --> 0:28:18.000
<v Speaker 4>success and especially the reports that you've been hearing about

0:28:18.520 --> 0:28:22.479
<v Speaker 4>dan Quinn adding linebacker responsibilities to what he does and

0:28:22.480 --> 0:28:25.080
<v Speaker 4>he already see that he plays along the line of scrimmage.

0:28:25.080 --> 0:28:28.200
<v Speaker 4>But your run curse and him are kind of becoming

0:28:28.200 --> 0:28:30.440
<v Speaker 4>one A and one B really close and what they

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<v Speaker 4>what they do. I think the bigger question is can

0:28:33.000 --> 0:28:36.520
<v Speaker 4>he cover tight ends. If that's the biggest question mark

0:28:36.560 --> 0:28:38.840
<v Speaker 4>that then he's going to get that answer throughout the season.

0:28:38.880 --> 0:28:41.720
<v Speaker 4>But I want to include I got Neville Gallimore because

0:28:42.160 --> 0:28:46.400
<v Speaker 4>because y'all been talking about Neville Gallamore, Nevill Galamore, y'all

0:28:46.440 --> 0:28:48.640
<v Speaker 4>been throwing him in there. I started off talking about

0:28:48.720 --> 0:28:51.320
<v Speaker 4>Chauncey Golston, So I think it's the combination of those

0:28:51.320 --> 0:28:54.120
<v Speaker 4>two players and where the Dallas Cowboys feel like they are.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's where I was going to go.

0:28:57.040 --> 0:29:04.239
<v Speaker 3>Golston, Gallimore, Bohannah, this group these three guys, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>who makes his team?

0:29:06.040 --> 0:29:07.719
<v Speaker 2>So that that's going to be very interesting.

0:29:07.720 --> 0:29:10.400
<v Speaker 3>I think they're going to keep Junior for Hoko uh

0:29:10.440 --> 0:29:12.400
<v Speaker 3>one of dan Quinn's guys that they drafted. But but

0:29:12.480 --> 0:29:13.880
<v Speaker 3>looking here, and that was kind of even when we

0:29:13.880 --> 0:29:17.680
<v Speaker 3>were in camp, just looking at r between Gallamore and Bohanna.

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<v Speaker 2>Goldston, Who's who's gonna make it? Right now? Who do

0:29:21.120 --> 0:29:22.920
<v Speaker 2>you who do you have leading the charge on that?

0:29:23.080 --> 0:29:29.600
<v Speaker 3>Honestly, man, I I I don't know I don't know.

0:29:29.760 --> 0:29:30.080
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

0:29:31.800 --> 0:29:33.360
<v Speaker 5>I would love to see guy because I feel like

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<v Speaker 5>he flashed, like he got the juice.

0:29:36.280 --> 0:29:38.480
<v Speaker 2>It's just a consistency hasn't been there.

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<v Speaker 5>And it's just like man like Garrett always says, you

0:29:41.120 --> 0:29:42.800
<v Speaker 5>can't be a flash in the pan type of player.

0:29:42.840 --> 0:29:44.720
<v Speaker 5>You know that'll get you, I'll get you gone the

0:29:44.720 --> 0:29:47.320
<v Speaker 5>injury injury.

0:29:48.160 --> 0:29:51.200
<v Speaker 3>I'm leaning I think maybe Bohannah makes it if I'm

0:29:51.360 --> 0:29:55.680
<v Speaker 3>choosing one between the three. But he said, this is

0:29:56.160 --> 0:29:59.480
<v Speaker 3>they got another test. It's another test we'll see. This

0:29:59.560 --> 0:30:02.880
<v Speaker 3>is a testament to Will McClay and what they have

0:30:02.960 --> 0:30:04.800
<v Speaker 3>built here that you can take two guys that you've

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<v Speaker 3>drafted and they may not make this team. Right now,

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<v Speaker 3>by the way, take a break or second break, one

0:30:12.440 --> 0:30:15.560
<v Speaker 3>player who's going to be here. Some fans may not

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<v Speaker 3>like it, but I'm telling you right now, Mike McCarthy

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<v Speaker 3>basically for casts.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you paid your dues? That was going on working

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<v Speaker 2>over there? All right?

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<v Speaker 3>Raiders Cowboys tomorrow final preseason game. Kelton Joseph is making

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<v Speaker 3>this team, and I know he gets fans have things

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<v Speaker 3>to say at times about his play, and I understand.

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<v Speaker 3>Have to watch training camp, I know, and he's like

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<v Speaker 3>number one giving up another touchdown. A lot of folks,

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of folks is putting up points on Number

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<v Speaker 3>one out there. But he's going to be a part

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<v Speaker 3>of this team. Mike McCarthy constantly talks about position flex.

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<v Speaker 3>He loves the fact that Kelvin could play inside outside,

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<v Speaker 3>playing the slot, and he is earning his keep on

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<v Speaker 3>special teams. You of all people Danny have preached and

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<v Speaker 3>talked about the importance of special teams.

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<v Speaker 2>We know C. J. Goodwin is in one category alone

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<v Speaker 2>by himself.

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<v Speaker 3>But then after that you start talking about importance of

0:34:32.880 --> 0:34:34.680
<v Speaker 3>special teams, and I talked about the bunter and the

0:34:34.719 --> 0:34:38.600
<v Speaker 3>kicker and then lost time. Kelvin Joseph has shown he

0:34:39.160 --> 0:34:41.640
<v Speaker 3>brings value to this team on special team.

0:34:41.719 --> 0:34:42.759
<v Speaker 2>He's the second best guy.

0:34:42.880 --> 0:34:45.800
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, easily when you when you're going down the roster

0:34:45.920 --> 0:34:48.480
<v Speaker 4>of guys like I don't really me, I don't believe

0:34:48.480 --> 0:34:50.880
<v Speaker 4>that when you look at Kevin Joseph, even McCarthy like,

0:34:50.920 --> 0:34:52.440
<v Speaker 4>he's gonna be on the squad. So then you have

0:34:52.480 --> 0:34:54.719
<v Speaker 4>to keep his confident confidence up to say, all right,

0:34:54.760 --> 0:34:57.160
<v Speaker 4>if people do go down, he's on the right. He's

0:34:57.200 --> 0:34:58.960
<v Speaker 4>gonna have to get in there and play and be

0:34:59.400 --> 0:35:01.640
<v Speaker 4>you know, service, but his main road is going to

0:35:01.680 --> 0:35:04.560
<v Speaker 4>be on special teams. And you got CJ. Goodwin and

0:35:04.600 --> 0:35:06.439
<v Speaker 4>then you got kel Man Joseph, and then it goes

0:35:06.520 --> 0:35:08.960
<v Speaker 4>down the list for a fossil. Right, he's like, hey man,

0:35:09.040 --> 0:35:11.799
<v Speaker 4>what what four guys do you need? The top two

0:35:12.880 --> 0:35:15.600
<v Speaker 4>or C. J. Goodwin and Kelvin Joseph. All right, and

0:35:15.640 --> 0:35:17.520
<v Speaker 4>then you got to figure out the other core guys.

0:35:17.560 --> 0:35:21.360
<v Speaker 4>So I've always always been of the belief that Kelvin

0:35:21.440 --> 0:35:23.040
<v Speaker 4>Joseph is going to be on the roster as long

0:35:23.080 --> 0:35:26.000
<v Speaker 4>as he continues to show up on special teams. And

0:35:26.520 --> 0:35:28.120
<v Speaker 4>that's what he did, and shout out to him because

0:35:28.120 --> 0:35:30.240
<v Speaker 4>that's that's his thing. Now he can be CJ.

0:35:30.320 --> 0:35:32.520
<v Speaker 2>Gooding. I'm like, Mayn, how many years did you play

0:35:32.520 --> 0:35:33.600
<v Speaker 2>in the league? Twelve?

0:35:34.080 --> 0:35:36.080
<v Speaker 4>And I was a special teams guy making a million

0:35:36.120 --> 0:35:39.160
<v Speaker 4>dollars a year sometimes two, right, And that's if that's

0:35:39.200 --> 0:35:40.520
<v Speaker 4>what it is for you, then that's what it is.

0:35:40.560 --> 0:35:43.080
<v Speaker 4>And I'm I'm I'm happy for the guy because that

0:35:43.160 --> 0:35:45.480
<v Speaker 4>means he understands what where's bread is buttered?

0:35:47.440 --> 0:35:50.520
<v Speaker 5>Look, I understand like you see, like Danny McCrae said,

0:35:50.520 --> 0:35:52.800
<v Speaker 5>I mean, you got two casts, the stars of your

0:35:52.840 --> 0:35:54.680
<v Speaker 5>special teams, and you can tell by the position they're

0:35:54.680 --> 0:35:56.720
<v Speaker 5>put in. If you're a gunner on the other side,

0:35:56.840 --> 0:35:58.400
<v Speaker 5>that means you're one of the top dogs. If you're

0:35:58.440 --> 0:36:00.319
<v Speaker 5>a five on kickoff, it means you're the middle to

0:36:00.520 --> 0:36:03.400
<v Speaker 5>kickoffs to kickoff grouping, and you're one of the fastest

0:36:03.400 --> 0:36:04.040
<v Speaker 5>guys down there.

0:36:04.160 --> 0:36:05.960
<v Speaker 2>You're a star on special team so he's gonna make it.

0:36:06.719 --> 0:36:08.960
<v Speaker 5>When you talk about Kelvin Joseph, last year, he had

0:36:08.960 --> 0:36:11.120
<v Speaker 5>a lot of things going on off the field, you know,

0:36:11.120 --> 0:36:12.719
<v Speaker 5>and that was his first year in the NFL, A

0:36:12.719 --> 0:36:15.000
<v Speaker 5>lot of stuff off the field. Can he he was

0:36:15.080 --> 0:36:16.600
<v Speaker 5>you know, he was rapping, He had that you know,

0:36:16.719 --> 0:36:18.880
<v Speaker 5>legal troubles, all that good stuff you can kind of

0:36:18.880 --> 0:36:20.360
<v Speaker 5>throw a damper on what you got going on in

0:36:20.440 --> 0:36:22.600
<v Speaker 5>the field. This year, we haven't heard much about him

0:36:22.600 --> 0:36:24.560
<v Speaker 5>off the fields, and hopefully he's focusing in on his

0:36:24.640 --> 0:36:26.799
<v Speaker 5>job and what he needs to be doing. And like

0:36:26.800 --> 0:36:28.920
<v Speaker 5>we said, he's made plays on special teams, so he

0:36:28.960 --> 0:36:31.000
<v Speaker 5>knows where his his his bread is being buttered.

0:36:31.400 --> 0:36:33.760
<v Speaker 2>Now can he make the transition and get better on defense?

0:36:33.920 --> 0:36:35.920
<v Speaker 5>I've seen a little bit you're talking about you're talking

0:36:35.920 --> 0:36:38.000
<v Speaker 5>about preseason games. You've seen a little bit. He's been

0:36:38.000 --> 0:36:39.759
<v Speaker 5>a little bit more sticky in coverage. He hasn't been

0:36:39.800 --> 0:36:41.920
<v Speaker 5>having as many penalties as he had out there his

0:36:42.000 --> 0:36:44.200
<v Speaker 5>rookie year. So, hath do you think He's one of

0:36:44.239 --> 0:36:45.680
<v Speaker 5>those guys that maybe it takes a little bit of

0:36:45.680 --> 0:36:47.640
<v Speaker 5>time to get going, and hopefully he's found his footing.

0:36:48.520 --> 0:36:53.560
<v Speaker 4>I tell you what, you know what I love it

0:36:53.640 --> 0:36:55.359
<v Speaker 4>when y'all do this, because what y'all do is y'all

0:36:55.400 --> 0:36:57.399
<v Speaker 4>put that butter on and then when the season started,

0:36:57.480 --> 0:36:58.600
<v Speaker 4>y'all roast him again.

0:36:58.760 --> 0:37:00.640
<v Speaker 2>Right, that's what you do.

0:37:00.760 --> 0:37:03.279
<v Speaker 4>You roast him again, because then it starts coming down

0:37:03.320 --> 0:37:06.680
<v Speaker 4>to where you're drafted. Oh and you're just a special

0:37:06.680 --> 0:37:09.399
<v Speaker 4>teams player. That wasn't what the vision that they had

0:37:09.440 --> 0:37:11.680
<v Speaker 4>in their head for Kelvin Joseph, And y'all gonna remember

0:37:11.719 --> 0:37:14.520
<v Speaker 4>that at a certain point in the season, y'all gonna

0:37:14.520 --> 0:37:19.279
<v Speaker 4>remind everybody that's him. He listen the difference between what

0:37:19.360 --> 0:37:21.440
<v Speaker 4>I said and what Church said. I didn't say nothing

0:37:21.480 --> 0:37:23.960
<v Speaker 4>about seeing on off, seeing the attorney camp that he's

0:37:23.960 --> 0:37:25.520
<v Speaker 4>playing better on at the cornerback.

0:37:25.680 --> 0:37:28.239
<v Speaker 2>I just say nothing. I know, I said, I know

0:37:28.640 --> 0:37:30.640
<v Speaker 2>specifically what his role is.

0:37:30.719 --> 0:37:32.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Churt's over there giving him. We might need to

0:37:32.880 --> 0:37:35.600
<v Speaker 4>put him back out there. I come by what I see.

0:37:36.440 --> 0:37:38.759
<v Speaker 4>What has to happen for Kevin Joseph to get in

0:37:38.800 --> 0:37:39.960
<v Speaker 4>there and play defensive back.

0:37:40.040 --> 0:37:42.360
<v Speaker 2>What has to happen on the defense? Might got get injured?

0:37:42.400 --> 0:37:45.680
<v Speaker 2>How many? How many? I say, just one? He's just one.

0:37:45.840 --> 0:37:49.160
<v Speaker 2>He looking at he's price. He's your number six going Yeah,

0:37:49.360 --> 0:37:53.320
<v Speaker 2>it's who one of them Blander or or Jay Logo.

0:37:53.440 --> 0:37:55.880
<v Speaker 2>Now that's two they both play Nicole Man, Are you

0:37:55.880 --> 0:37:58.000
<v Speaker 2>sure they both? So you're talking.

0:38:00.160 --> 0:38:03.960
<v Speaker 3>He's not playing j right, and he got Scott and

0:38:04.000 --> 0:38:06.480
<v Speaker 3>then then it's him who Scott.

0:38:08.000 --> 0:38:11.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Kevin Joseph is down.

0:38:12.320 --> 0:38:14.000
<v Speaker 4>He might not even be getting rips out there on

0:38:14.080 --> 0:38:18.520
<v Speaker 4>a scout when they when they practice that for that.

0:38:18.640 --> 0:38:21.920
<v Speaker 4>But I'm gonna say this right, so moving him inside

0:38:21.920 --> 0:38:23.600
<v Speaker 4>to Nickel, I think he's been better. And I'm gonna

0:38:23.600 --> 0:38:25.399
<v Speaker 4>ask you, man, because I feel like a guy that

0:38:25.480 --> 0:38:28.560
<v Speaker 4>for Kevin Joseph came from L s U and Kentucky.

0:38:28.920 --> 0:38:29.040
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

0:38:29.160 --> 0:38:31.160
<v Speaker 4>Playing man coverage a guy to get up on you

0:38:31.239 --> 0:38:33.399
<v Speaker 4>and want to be physical. Now they're saying that he's

0:38:33.440 --> 0:38:36.799
<v Speaker 4>having well. John Owning and Pro Football Focus wrote an

0:38:36.840 --> 0:38:39.520
<v Speaker 4>article talking about him playing off coverage and how that's

0:38:39.719 --> 0:38:41.799
<v Speaker 4>better suited him now that he can just drive on

0:38:41.840 --> 0:38:43.800
<v Speaker 4>the ball versus trying to be more physical at the

0:38:43.880 --> 0:38:46.279
<v Speaker 4>line of scrimmage. Is that just little technical thing that

0:38:46.400 --> 0:38:48.800
<v Speaker 4>change has made the difference for him as a player

0:38:48.840 --> 0:38:51.400
<v Speaker 4>and maybe made him your second string Nickel?

0:38:51.840 --> 0:38:54.080
<v Speaker 5>I mean to me, I just think he his body

0:38:54.120 --> 0:38:56.719
<v Speaker 5>type and his play style is better suited for a nickel. Okay,

0:38:56.719 --> 0:38:58.360
<v Speaker 5>when you're out there on the island by yourself on

0:38:58.360 --> 0:39:00.440
<v Speaker 5>the outside, and you got bigger guys that are usually

0:39:00.440 --> 0:39:02.480
<v Speaker 5>gonna go against you're going against the A. J. Greens,

0:39:02.600 --> 0:39:04.560
<v Speaker 5>you know, Julio Jones, big guys that we've seen can

0:39:04.680 --> 0:39:06.399
<v Speaker 5>just win fifty fifty balls out there, and I don't

0:39:06.400 --> 0:39:08.600
<v Speaker 5>think that suits him. And like you said, when you

0:39:08.600 --> 0:39:10.160
<v Speaker 5>get up in that press coverage, you gotta be a

0:39:10.160 --> 0:39:10.759
<v Speaker 5>physical guy.

0:39:10.800 --> 0:39:12.279
<v Speaker 2>You gotta be able to put hands on people.

0:39:12.360 --> 0:39:14.520
<v Speaker 5>And people have been kind of washing him to the

0:39:14.520 --> 0:39:16.120
<v Speaker 5>side when he gets press coverage out there. But when

0:39:16.120 --> 0:39:17.879
<v Speaker 5>he's in that nickel and he's off and he gets

0:39:17.880 --> 0:39:20.160
<v Speaker 5>to see everything, I think he becomes a better defensive

0:39:20.160 --> 0:39:21.000
<v Speaker 5>player in that regard.

0:39:21.080 --> 0:39:24.360
<v Speaker 2>Our hair said he's strong as battery act. That's strong.

0:39:25.200 --> 0:39:25.520
<v Speaker 2>So hold on.

0:39:25.600 --> 0:39:27.720
<v Speaker 4>You said he can't press. I ain't say he couldn't.

0:39:27.719 --> 0:39:30.279
<v Speaker 4>Proud people saying he don't when he gets in there.

0:39:30.280 --> 0:39:32.439
<v Speaker 4>He's been having trouble on press technique and he's better

0:39:32.440 --> 0:39:35.359
<v Speaker 4>with off. So what happens on thirty three third two?

0:39:35.840 --> 0:39:38.480
<v Speaker 2>Got to get play six?

0:39:39.000 --> 0:39:42.000
<v Speaker 5>See nickel, really don't because pressed like that because you

0:39:42.000 --> 0:39:43.040
<v Speaker 5>don't want to get rubbed out.

0:39:46.000 --> 0:39:48.200
<v Speaker 4>A lot of stacks against teams that play man and

0:39:48.280 --> 0:39:51.000
<v Speaker 4>man coverage. Depending on down the distance, you might you

0:39:51.080 --> 0:39:52.560
<v Speaker 4>might have to get in there. And I'll tell you

0:39:52.560 --> 0:39:54.879
<v Speaker 4>what if you press and nickel and you get beat

0:39:54.880 --> 0:39:58.520
<v Speaker 4>off the line, Yeah, I'm gonna play all technique and

0:39:58.560 --> 0:40:00.000
<v Speaker 4>try to drive on some nigga on a scene right

0:40:00.200 --> 0:40:02.440
<v Speaker 4>on you like you gotta be taking that is That's

0:40:02.440 --> 0:40:05.600
<v Speaker 4>why Orlando Scandrin got paid so many times because the

0:40:05.719 --> 0:40:08.600
<v Speaker 4>nickel position is probably one of the hardest positions for

0:40:08.600 --> 0:40:10.680
<v Speaker 4>you to play because you got to know route concepts.

0:40:10.880 --> 0:40:13.080
<v Speaker 2>You got to understand and be able to feel those.

0:40:12.960 --> 0:40:16.520
<v Speaker 4>Route concepts, and you gotta be able to press and playoff.

0:40:16.600 --> 0:40:19.319
<v Speaker 4>And that's at five not the usual seven yards. Like

0:40:19.360 --> 0:40:21.359
<v Speaker 4>you got to have everything to play nickel. That's why

0:40:21.400 --> 0:40:23.839
<v Speaker 4>Durrun playing he has a special talent for being able

0:40:23.840 --> 0:40:26.920
<v Speaker 4>to play nickel, and Jordan Lewis has a special talent

0:40:26.960 --> 0:40:28.640
<v Speaker 4>for being able to play nickel. You have to you

0:40:28.640 --> 0:40:31.120
<v Speaker 4>gotta be you have to have those special techniques and

0:40:31.200 --> 0:40:33.720
<v Speaker 4>skills to be able to do that. And nobody's forgot

0:40:33.760 --> 0:40:37.960
<v Speaker 4>about the Zay Jones game Jacksonville. It's that's still it's

0:40:37.960 --> 0:40:39.360
<v Speaker 4>still tape out there. So I mean, if you just

0:40:39.360 --> 0:40:41.200
<v Speaker 4>want to go back to the tape, it's still out there.

0:40:41.239 --> 0:40:44.799
<v Speaker 4>So that time consistency in proof. It's in the water.

0:40:44.800 --> 0:40:46.919
<v Speaker 4>Make a million dollars a year, Bro, a million plus.

0:40:48.120 --> 0:40:53.439
<v Speaker 3>He's a special team who is one of the last dbs.

0:40:53.960 --> 0:40:57.439
<v Speaker 3>It's one of your last corners that's out there. I'm

0:40:57.480 --> 0:41:04.439
<v Speaker 3>long since stop expecting him to be a corner that's

0:41:04.480 --> 0:41:07.680
<v Speaker 3>playing significant snaps for the Cowboys because he was drafted

0:41:07.719 --> 0:41:10.160
<v Speaker 3>as a number two, you know, second round draft pick

0:41:11.080 --> 0:41:12.040
<v Speaker 3>that both sailed for me.

0:41:12.920 --> 0:41:15.680
<v Speaker 2>This guy's a special teamer who they like.

0:41:17.040 --> 0:41:20.719
<v Speaker 3>He's he's there as a corner and you know, if

0:41:20.719 --> 0:41:22.839
<v Speaker 3>they got to put him in, they got to put

0:41:22.920 --> 0:41:25.799
<v Speaker 3>him in. But they have went out and got other

0:41:25.840 --> 0:41:28.360
<v Speaker 3>players like a Iran Bland who they took in the

0:41:28.360 --> 0:41:30.439
<v Speaker 3>fifth round, who led the team and picked last year.

0:41:30.520 --> 0:41:33.319
<v Speaker 2>These guys have surpassed him, but he's still on the team.

0:41:33.320 --> 0:41:35.960
<v Speaker 3>They're not cutting a guy, right, They're not cutting a

0:41:36.000 --> 0:41:37.719
<v Speaker 3>guy who they spit that kind of hot.

0:41:38.200 --> 0:41:40.480
<v Speaker 2>When's the last time they cut a dude they took.

0:41:40.280 --> 0:41:43.080
<v Speaker 3>In the second round three years in and done it forever.

0:41:43.160 --> 0:41:46.400
<v Speaker 3>So he's gonna be here. He's found a role, be

0:41:46.480 --> 0:41:49.680
<v Speaker 3>clear special team's difference maker. When you say he's a

0:41:49.719 --> 0:41:52.160
<v Speaker 3>difference maker one not just not just the guy.

0:41:53.000 --> 0:41:57.480
<v Speaker 2>So so he's there. I live with it for this year,

0:41:58.320 --> 0:41:58.919
<v Speaker 2>for this year.

0:41:59.000 --> 0:42:00.839
<v Speaker 3>Next year, we'll see if he has to get out

0:42:00.840 --> 0:42:03.320
<v Speaker 3>there and play I saw, I saw camp.

0:42:03.480 --> 0:42:04.440
<v Speaker 2>It could be it could be out.

0:42:04.520 --> 0:42:08.320
<v Speaker 4>But that room is crowded, don't That room is crowded,

0:42:08.360 --> 0:42:09.080
<v Speaker 4>extremely crowded.

0:42:09.120 --> 0:42:13.239
<v Speaker 3>And if he you know, tomorrow, tomorrow, if he makes

0:42:13.280 --> 0:42:14.920
<v Speaker 3>a couple of plays, make it, make people feel good,

0:42:14.920 --> 0:42:16.080
<v Speaker 3>make me make you feel good.

0:42:17.120 --> 0:42:18.880
<v Speaker 5>Speaking of the corners, what they're gonna do with the

0:42:19.080 --> 0:42:25.200
<v Speaker 5>nickel position right now? Like like, so are they gonna

0:42:25.239 --> 0:42:25.840
<v Speaker 5>be rotating?

0:42:25.960 --> 0:42:29.160
<v Speaker 2>Is it? Or somebody specific? Is Jay Lou even healthy?

0:42:29.360 --> 0:42:32.400
<v Speaker 2>That's is he? He says he's He says he's good.

0:42:32.840 --> 0:42:36.040
<v Speaker 3>So so you know this is this is what and

0:42:36.160 --> 0:42:37.920
<v Speaker 3>Dan Quinny trust That's how I.

0:42:37.840 --> 0:42:39.439
<v Speaker 5>Look at that one, because he got a nice price

0:42:39.480 --> 0:42:43.040
<v Speaker 5>tag on for especially if he's not gonna start What

0:42:43.080 --> 0:42:44.319
<v Speaker 5>do you mean in terms of like you think he

0:42:44.360 --> 0:42:47.960
<v Speaker 5>mean I be here. I mean, it's just he's gonna

0:42:47.960 --> 0:42:49.960
<v Speaker 5>be here because I mean he's gonna because you need corners.

0:42:49.960 --> 0:42:51.719
<v Speaker 5>But it's one of the last time you've seen you know,

0:42:51.760 --> 0:42:53.480
<v Speaker 5>a five minute was it five six million dollars?

0:42:53.480 --> 0:42:55.480
<v Speaker 2>Back up, Nickel, you haven't.

0:42:56.360 --> 0:43:00.600
<v Speaker 3>He's gonna be here. And it's seventeen. And at seventeen season,

0:43:01.719 --> 0:43:05.600
<v Speaker 3>where we've seen guys get hurt as much as we

0:43:05.760 --> 0:43:10.239
<v Speaker 3>like Gilmore were the top four oldest starting corners in

0:43:10.280 --> 0:43:12.800
<v Speaker 3>the game. I mean, you you you gotta have death.

0:43:12.920 --> 0:43:16.520
<v Speaker 3>You needed the death last year, so I don't see

0:43:16.600 --> 0:43:18.920
<v Speaker 3>I mean, all right, you cut this guy. Somebody else

0:43:18.920 --> 0:43:21.080
<v Speaker 3>gonna pick him up, paid price tag. I mean, they're

0:43:21.080 --> 0:43:21.759
<v Speaker 3>gonna do it in.

0:43:21.680 --> 0:43:23.919
<v Speaker 2>This league, oh man.

0:43:24.239 --> 0:43:26.000
<v Speaker 3>And if you think you had the kind of defense

0:43:26.040 --> 0:43:29.400
<v Speaker 3>you want, you were including him in this Jordan Lewis

0:43:29.440 --> 0:43:32.080
<v Speaker 3>is in the conversation about you trying to have a

0:43:32.160 --> 0:43:32.879
<v Speaker 3>good I mean, I'm.

0:43:32.760 --> 0:43:34.239
<v Speaker 2>Sorry, we walked about well, we got too many gus,

0:43:34.239 --> 0:43:35.800
<v Speaker 2>I have too much fit, we got too much pitchy,

0:43:36.200 --> 0:43:39.279
<v Speaker 2>we got too many corners. But you hear your but

0:43:39.360 --> 0:43:40.319
<v Speaker 2>you're paying that man.

0:43:40.440 --> 0:43:42.919
<v Speaker 5>Though I could see he was making why Anthony Brown

0:43:43.000 --> 0:43:44.960
<v Speaker 5>last year he wasn't making six Anthony Bryan.

0:43:45.000 --> 0:43:45.920
<v Speaker 2>Wouldn't that what happened?

0:43:45.920 --> 0:43:49.640
<v Speaker 3>And the last year so you said that, okay, so

0:43:49.719 --> 0:43:52.200
<v Speaker 3>Zay Joe, we saw Jay Jones do this thing like that.

0:43:52.840 --> 0:43:55.160
<v Speaker 5>That's what so all masking. I'm not saying that you

0:43:55.160 --> 0:43:56.680
<v Speaker 5>get rid of the guy. All I'm saying is you

0:43:56.680 --> 0:43:58.839
<v Speaker 5>can paying a little guy a lot of ducats to

0:43:58.840 --> 0:44:02.080
<v Speaker 5>be at to be a backup. Okay, that's that's good.

0:44:02.080 --> 0:44:03.160
<v Speaker 5>That's good, that's good business.

0:44:03.200 --> 0:44:06.560
<v Speaker 2>That's what they paying it all five million back up?

0:44:06.680 --> 0:44:11.200
<v Speaker 2>That about is he on the final year? Is final?

0:44:11.280 --> 0:44:11.320
<v Speaker 7>You?

0:44:11.760 --> 0:44:14.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Because three years? Do you think he gets set out?

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<v Speaker 2>You know? You know, my man, Adam.

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<v Speaker 5>That's what I'm saying that, that's what I'm thinking of.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm like, do you talk to him saying you might

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<v Speaker 5>need to take a haircut?

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<v Speaker 2>Option? You got to getting the options because I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's that's I'm just saying. If you especially if you're

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<v Speaker 2>not starting, you got five how long they give you,

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<v Speaker 2>d they give you? Came out, you walk room there,

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<v Speaker 2>you want to call you got me? I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>that's just trying to take people money.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying. I'm I'm talking about it as a whole.

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<v Speaker 2>We were talking about this position. The nickel position is

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<v Speaker 2>value position.

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<v Speaker 5>You got a guy that's a heck of a lot cheaper,

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<v Speaker 5>that's making plays and playing right.

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<v Speaker 2>Why can't we have both? Because what is he going

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<v Speaker 2>to say, Jerry Money, why are you trying to say

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<v Speaker 2>saying that your started what you going through with Jay?

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<v Speaker 4>Like? What? No? I mean, it's a serious decision to make,

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<v Speaker 4>and I think teams do it all the time. They

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<v Speaker 4>go with the youth and the less expensive guy, especially

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<v Speaker 4>if they're doing the same thing. I mean, we're not

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<v Speaker 4>even talking about Eric Scott, your draft pick that if

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<v Speaker 4>he's doing the same thing that Kelvin Joseph can do

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<v Speaker 4>on special teams or we don't have proof of that.

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<v Speaker 4>We don't know if he can. But does that does

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<v Speaker 4>that mean anything to you?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh Na?

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<v Speaker 4>Sean Wright, we had he hadn't played a couple of

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<v Speaker 4>games because I believe ankle injury or whatever he's dealing with.

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<v Speaker 4>But there's some decisions that you have to make. There

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<v Speaker 4>is Israel Mukuomo. He's a flex guy that goes from

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<v Speaker 4>safety and corner as well. There's there's still a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of decisions to be made. And I'm with you too

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<v Speaker 4>on this. You can't have enough of them. You're gonna

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<v Speaker 4>need them, You're gonna use them. But a five million

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<v Speaker 4>dollar backup hey and He's a good don't get me wrong,

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<v Speaker 4>like if you were losing a ball.

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<v Speaker 5>When we first saw him out there, he was a

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<v Speaker 5>ball guy, all over the force and fumbles doing all

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<v Speaker 5>our gud stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm just saying, if.

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<v Speaker 5>You can't beat out dun Bland, I mean, it's a conversation.

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<v Speaker 3>So when you say beat out, it's not as though

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<v Speaker 3>they were both out here training camp and we saw

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<v Speaker 3>them go ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Okay, it was hurt. You've got four corners

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<v Speaker 2>that you can feel real good about. This is true.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not about to sit up here and try and

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<v Speaker 2>cut salary on. I'm gonna need. I'm goad. History shows

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<v Speaker 2>you you're gonna need these guys. I'm not messing with it.

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<v Speaker 3>If I think if I think I have the team

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<v Speaker 3>that I that I think I do, and I think

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<v Speaker 3>that you could you know, they're talking like they can

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<v Speaker 3>go to Las Vegas.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not touching it. So what Okay? So all right, dude,

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<v Speaker 2>you got over them.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, fine, you jered you You're gonna be okay, do

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<v Speaker 3>it and go another sponsor being you know, official the

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<v Speaker 3>official sock sponsor, official wrench organization and make.

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<v Speaker 2>Up for that new he's on the building fund for

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<v Speaker 2>your church. Get go, get your church.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't worry about what you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>Put that money.

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<v Speaker 4>Come on, why are you trying to save Jerry money?

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<v Speaker 2>You got it? Wow, I'm okay. So Monday, do you

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<v Speaker 2>expect to see him here? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, because there's been no talks about it, know nothing.

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<v Speaker 5>I expect him to be here and his price tag

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<v Speaker 5>will probably be the same.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just that's that's all I say. Healthy the hefty stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>Dad for that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I expect him at his price. Yes, expect you

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<v Speaker 2>to be here this price. I do. There's no conversation

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<v Speaker 2>about it.

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<v Speaker 4>So if he's healthy right now, like he says he isn't,

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<v Speaker 4>I expect him to be here at his price. If

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<v Speaker 4>he wasn't healthy then then maybe then maybe you had

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<v Speaker 4>that conversation. But if he's healthy now, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Think in the show on this nugget, I did ask

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<v Speaker 3>Mike McCarthy about ric O'Donell in the in the Punk

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<v Speaker 3>getting blocked in. He said, you know, three previous ones

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<v Speaker 3>before he had no issues.

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<v Speaker 2>He's normally good.

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<v Speaker 3>He said, he just let him go inside, and you

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<v Speaker 3>know you can't let let the guy slide inside and

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<v Speaker 3>he said, you know, learning moment for him.

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<v Speaker 2>He'll get better better from it.

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<v Speaker 3>So so Mike, Mike, Mike felt like it was a

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<v Speaker 3>brain fart and then he would be okay.

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<v Speaker 4>So that was probably good that he saw it because

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<v Speaker 4>he knows now, he knows, knows one thing to tell

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<v Speaker 4>you about it in the meeting room, another thing for

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<v Speaker 4>you to get out there.

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<v Speaker 2>And it happened to you. So there you go, all right?

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<v Speaker 2>He how good weekend man.

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<v Speaker 3>I will look forward to seeing the fifty final fifty

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<v Speaker 3>three Sunday when they when they unvailable. Danny Craye appreciate you,

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<v Speaker 3>Barry Church on tape.

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<v Speaker 2>Folks, money and need to be had.

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<v Speaker 3>Salary, salary cat Barry cat Man, cat man, Very Church.

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<v Speaker 2>In front office pretty soon. Yeah, I don't talk to

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<v Speaker 2>you next week.

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