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Speaker 3: They we got a great argument that Dan got off.
Speaker 4: He frustrated, But not me because I know I can
Speaker 4: just look at the numbers and see.
Speaker 2: Man, I tell you what they do. Agree with you.
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Speaker 2: We'll talk about this on the breaking. This is from Pittsburgh.
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Speaker 4: It's a valid argument, man. So anyway, what's up with you?
Speaker 4: Knew he got your TCU on to day? What's going
Speaker 4: you go to school today? That you go out to
Speaker 4: the campus.
Speaker 3: Actually today is the first day of the Executive NBA
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Speaker 2: Know why he got that on? Huh? Because we didn't
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Speaker 2: I did? Right, a trust man.
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Speaker 2: Thank you very He ain't came back up in there.
Speaker 2: That's what I know. It never said trustee. Lie, oh,
Speaker 2: it didn't have trust girls. You know the flippers that
Speaker 2: these guys tell the darkness?
Speaker 3: Where is now the twenty third name of the Cowboys
Speaker 3: were talking about it here on the planers.
Speaker 2: Last the summer played the lottery dware you winning? Yeah?
Speaker 3: So this this you know earlier this month inducting the
Speaker 3: Pro Football Hall of Fame, and then this week finds
Speaker 3: out that he's going into the Cowboys Ring of Honor
Speaker 3: this year.
Speaker 2: So I.
Speaker 3: Feels more than deserved. And the unfortunate things. You have
Speaker 3: to remind certain Cowboy people what he did here because
Speaker 3: he won the Super Bowl with Denver. True, but the
Speaker 3: guys all time leading sack artist here in this franchise,
Speaker 3: and I'm sorry, some pretty good players and played in
Speaker 3: this uniform and won super Bowls and so to have
Speaker 3: that number, and he's all time retired, all time top
Speaker 3: ten in the NFL and sacks. So when I think
Speaker 3: of the Ring of Honor, Tamarcus Ware belongs there. And
Speaker 3: the fact that anybody's trying to push back, I find surprise.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there there should be no pushback when you talk
Speaker 5: about the Marcus where you know, being in the Ring
Speaker 5: of Honor. I mean this guy, like you said, all
Speaker 5: time sacks leader here, and I know he did his
Speaker 5: work over there in Denver as well, winning a Super Bowl,
Speaker 5: But I mean the prime, the bulk of his career
Speaker 5: where he was doing the most work, where people are like, man,
Speaker 5: you got a fear number ninety four.
Speaker 2: It was here when he had a star on his helmet.
Speaker 5: And to me, it couldn't happen to a better guy,
Speaker 5: because even though he was a great football player, I
Speaker 5: think he was even better man because of what he
Speaker 5: did with those young guys coming in. No matter if
Speaker 5: you were a first round or if you were undrafted,
Speaker 5: he gave you his knowledge that he knew and he
Speaker 5: passed it on, So it couldn't happen to a better man.
Speaker 2: And I'm super happy for Dwaar.
Speaker 4: Yeah I didn't obviously never played with a Deware, but
Speaker 4: just knowing him as a person, one of the nicest
Speaker 4: guys you ever want to meet. Those Christmas parties that
Speaker 4: we used to have for the kids, they canceled them.
Speaker 4: They're coming back this shit though.
Speaker 2: Christmas parties.
Speaker 4: My son would always want to take a picture with Dwaar,
Speaker 4: and sometimes it would be after a massive loss and
Speaker 4: he see it was gracious enough to take the picture.
Speaker 2: Man, he's just a good dude. Yeah, man, cowboy.
Speaker 4: Ring of honor though, how that is a massive, massive
Speaker 4: honor for him as a player, and I'm sure one
Speaker 4: that he couldn't have seen coming. And it's just the
Speaker 4: people that are already in there, and just for him
Speaker 4: to be included in that, it just speaks about who
Speaker 4: he is as a player and the kind of numbers
Speaker 4: and reputation that he had in the NFL period.
Speaker 2: Yeah, shout out to Dwear everything, y'all said, great guy.
Speaker 4: He was my locker my locker mate, my rookie year,
Speaker 4: so taught me a lot made sure he took me
Speaker 4: under his wing to show me how to be a professional.
Speaker 4: So I got nothing but love for Dware and for
Speaker 4: all the people who, like you said, who are pushing
Speaker 4: back on dewear. He went to win a super Bowl
Speaker 4: and dinner and all that stuff, and in the entirety
Speaker 4: of his career here as a Dallas Cowboy player, it
Speaker 4: has never been mentioned or thought of of him being
Speaker 4: a reason why we haven't. Won't you look at it,
Speaker 4: be like, man, we got Deworld on the team we
Speaker 4: should be, and we owe it to him to then
Speaker 4: be able to get to that because you have.
Speaker 2: A player that great on your team. I e.
Speaker 4: Like Michael Parsons, you say, this is a time and
Speaker 4: that's a piece that you need to use to make
Speaker 4: sure that you maximize it while they're here, because you
Speaker 4: never know when you're gonna see another one again.
Speaker 2: So shout out to Dware and the fact that he
Speaker 2: did go to Denver. I was.
Speaker 3: I was at a Toys r Us on Christmas, even
Speaker 3: your neighborhood, and Dware, I'm there shopping. He happens to
Speaker 3: be there, and it's that point in time where he
Speaker 3: thought he was going to get cut and it was
Speaker 3: pretty sure. Then we're gonna bring it back, contract everything,
Speaker 3: and I said, you know you get enough job, right
Speaker 3: you say?
Speaker 2: And he was really he was that down.
Speaker 3: And I won't say he lost confidence, but it was
Speaker 3: just that moment of just trying to figure what's next
Speaker 3: because he knew what was coming. And I was like, hey,
Speaker 3: you go be Vine and he ends up going to Denver.
Speaker 3: Von Miller needed DeMarcus Ware because if you remember, earlier
Speaker 3: on his career, Vaughn had a couple issues.
Speaker 2: D Ware got Von to where he needed to be
Speaker 2: and I dare say.
Speaker 3: This Vn's Super Bowl fifty MVP and the performance he
Speaker 3: had was with and happened because of d Ware. And
Speaker 3: then when he ends up going to Los Angeles and
Speaker 3: he's around Aaron Donald. If you go look at the
Speaker 3: NFL Films video afterwards, you see Donald run up to
Speaker 3: Vaughn and say thank.
Speaker 2: You, thank you.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 3: Come to find out through Vaughn's agent that Vaughn had
Speaker 3: spoken to Aaron Donald about needing to step up and
Speaker 3: understanding his talent and that you are not as good
Speaker 3: as you need to be. You got to go come
Speaker 3: give it to us. And that was from what d
Speaker 3: Ware taught him. And then I think about Iron Smith
Speaker 3: All decade player. When Tyrant's drafted the first round, ninth
Speaker 3: overall out of USC they had him working with where
Speaker 3: and he was showing him those ropes of what he
Speaker 3: needed to do, and he becomes an All decade player.
Speaker 3: So I just think the impact of what that guy
Speaker 3: when you talk about that's what ring of honor is.
Speaker 2: That was just what he did. It's what he did
Speaker 2: for other people.
Speaker 3: Along the way that made them champions or and or
Speaker 3: just some outstanding players. So I just think what you
Speaker 3: guys talked about him as a man and what he means.
Speaker 3: I mean, hey, Michael Parsons came in here, started working
Speaker 3: with him right out of the game.
Speaker 2: That's true.
Speaker 4: That's the man you called. You want to learn how
Speaker 4: to do it? You called DeMarcus Ware and he's around
Speaker 4: the facility too. But I want to go back to
Speaker 4: that Super Bowl fifty victory man the Denver Broncos was
Speaker 4: on cams and Von Miller, the way that his game
Speaker 4: transformed with DeMarcus where you could tell that was a
Speaker 4: lot of influence. So when you talk about that and
Speaker 4: the way that he transformed him, I think that that
Speaker 4: was you know very well illustrated from you because you
Speaker 4: saw the change in his game as soon as de
Speaker 4: Marcus got there. And and remembering that Carolina offense at
Speaker 4: that time.
Speaker 2: Stop one. They came there and beat up down, they
Speaker 2: beat up and.
Speaker 3: Was not good in that game. He didn't have much.
Speaker 3: In fact, Peyton had told the Marcus beforehand basically, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna give you what a.
Speaker 2: Guy and that ain't when I give you what I got,
Speaker 2: go get it done.
Speaker 3: And sure enough they did, and they wore out Reamers
Speaker 3: and the other tackles.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: But h what what what that defense did that day?
Speaker 4: They talk about this all the time on the players
Speaker 4: lounges Man offense went out there that didn't really give
Speaker 4: them much.
Speaker 2: Huh what the defense do for him to win? Run
Speaker 2: the ball? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Let your defense go out there and make those type
Speaker 4: of players. Can they score for you? Can they can
Speaker 4: they take the ball away for you?
Speaker 2: Yes? They can?
Speaker 4: When you're looking at a recipe for success, right and
Speaker 4: I say this, our quarterback is better than Peyton Manning
Speaker 4: was at that time. Our offense is better than Denver's
Speaker 4: offense was at that time. We should be able to
Speaker 4: do something based off the defense. When you look at
Speaker 4: this defense and you look at Denver's defense, you say,
Speaker 4: all right, Corparable, I like where you go. But that's
Speaker 4: when the pressure gets on, when you say, all right, well,
Speaker 4: if it doesn't happen, then will then what's the issue?
Speaker 2: Uncle Wayne's coordinated that defense.
Speaker 3: They was rolling, they were that was That was one
Speaker 3: of the I dare say this, And I really feel
Speaker 3: bad for Wade Phillips because that Rams team that lost
Speaker 3: to New England. And what Wade's fault, Well, he'll tell
Speaker 3: me that thirteen thirteen thirteen, he did his job. Wonder
Speaker 3: boy didn't do his job, and Wonder Boys quarterback didn't
Speaker 3: do their job. But thirteen points Hall of Fame Tom
Speaker 3: Brady in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: You're supposed to get that, supposed to win that one.
Speaker 3: For show point, I said, I'm glad Wade, you know,
Speaker 3: God is what different because what he did with the
Speaker 3: Ram I'm like, my goodness, gracious, that was one of
Speaker 3: the better performances from a coordinator've ever seen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so so, y'all, I mean, q's his time.
Speaker 2: Really you gotta get it going.
Speaker 4: He got it one like he be there, like he
Speaker 4: hasn't manufactured him a super Bowl winning out of a
Speaker 4: like that, right, it.
Speaker 2: Wasn't his fault what Richard, I was there. I couldn't
Speaker 2: believe you mean you should have had three? Yeah? I
Speaker 2: should have three? Exactly? You up twenty eight to three?
Speaker 2: All right? Yeah? Coordinator who was a coordinator said should
Speaker 2: have had three? Can we can we get him? But
Speaker 2: can we give them number two away? Should look? They
Speaker 2: this is you know, I'm not I'm not a hype person.
Speaker 2: Not that's not what I eat it up to me.
Speaker 2: I got you, but.
Speaker 3: I did cover super Bowl team. I've seen what defensive
Speaker 3: talent looks like here. They're not what Jimmy's last team
Speaker 3: was here. Okay, they're not that, but they've got some
Speaker 3: really good impact pieces that can put you in a
Speaker 3: position to be good. We talked about Denver's unit, where
Speaker 3: you had where you had Vaughan, Your DB's back there
Speaker 3: between a key to leave Christy. They have some mean dbs.
Speaker 3: You have a good defensive team that should put you there.
Speaker 3: You played on a really good defensive team in Jacksonville
Speaker 3: that had them right there.
Speaker 2: You know. Oh yeah, that's why I want.
Speaker 4: To make sure we you know, we don't gloss over
Speaker 4: that like we have some impact pieces, but this and this.
Speaker 3: Okay, look when you talk about warts, right now, this
Speaker 3: is the wart.
Speaker 2: How do they fix the wart? It's a legitimate thing.
Speaker 3: And we haven't seen a preseason game with these guys
Speaker 3: out here all together to see exactly what it is
Speaker 3: they need to do.
Speaker 2: I spoke to I spoke to Tank Lord.
Speaker 5: Okay, related talk about wards and I'll get how great
Speaker 5: the defense he is. If you can't take care of
Speaker 5: the football, it's not gonna get done.
Speaker 2: No, not true.
Speaker 5: Peyton Manning, he might not have been painting from old
Speaker 5: but what did they do? They ran the football, take
Speaker 5: care of the football. We can't get this touchdowns, punt
Speaker 5: it off to the defense. Let them do the work.
Speaker 5: If we can't take care of the football here, I don't care.
Speaker 5: If you've got parsons, you got this. You got a
Speaker 5: whole on slot of defensive players, you're not gonna win
Speaker 5: the games.
Speaker 4: And when you have when you have a defense like that,
Speaker 4: and you can turn Peyton Manning into a glorified bus driver,
Speaker 4: it works simple for you. I think at this day
Speaker 4: and age, and especially with Dak getting hurt last year,
Speaker 4: I felt like he was pressing a lot through the season,
Speaker 4: hence the turnovers. I'm not gonna give him any excuses
Speaker 4: because I'm telling you I've ran Dak. I need AMMO
Speaker 4: for these haters right now, Okay, because I'm surround, I can't.
Speaker 2: Fight him off no longer. I need AMMO for these haters.
Speaker 4: And he has to make the plays when they're needed
Speaker 4: to be made. That San Francisco game, the one thing
Speaker 4: that keeps showing the same interception over and over, the
Speaker 4: one that hits number one hands and then it deflects
Speaker 4: to the linebacker, like, hey, two guys could have accepted
Speaker 4: that one pass. And we've seen the bad turnovers from Dak,
Speaker 4: but his career wasn't built on that. Nothing about who
Speaker 4: he has been in the league has been on oh,
Speaker 4: he's just a turnover machine. But we're gonna take that
Speaker 4: simple size, which this guy never lists me, take a
Speaker 4: simple size of anything other than just these turnovers for
Speaker 4: Dak right to say that, that's I'm just saying, you
Speaker 4: don't so to say that, that's what you talk about.
Speaker 4: That for the player, that's the player that he is,
Speaker 4: and I don't believe that's who he is. But this
Speaker 4: year he has to turn it, turn it around, especially
Speaker 4: with the defense that he has. And it's comfortable to
Speaker 4: that Peyton Manning Broncos team. It's comfortable to me to
Speaker 4: that Baltimore Ravens twenty thirteen team. When you just want
Speaker 4: to talk about def I'm talking about defense. Where with Flacco,
Speaker 4: with Flacco is all, what does he have to be?
Speaker 4: Just a glorified bus driver.
Speaker 2: Get it done. Put your defense out there, let them
Speaker 2: handle business. Joe was fantastic the postseason. Clarify, he was
Speaker 2: really fantastic post He's.
Speaker 4: He's talking about Barry. Okay, that's sample size. I said.
Speaker 4: Dak is not the interception guy. He got to protect
Speaker 4: the ball. But he's gonna be able to be different
Speaker 4: this year. Turk is the guy. Okay, he's the guy
Speaker 4: who yards about it.
Speaker 2: He just said it just.
Speaker 5: Because that's whatever. That's what we're doing here, that's what
Speaker 5: everybody's doing. I'm just not putting put why I see it.
Speaker 2: Last year.
Speaker 5: Last year they were greating points number one offensite. They
Speaker 5: turned the football over too much and for some reason,
Speaker 5: that all went on KM that all went on.
Speaker 3: My boy, Kelly Moore, don't got me. I don't see
Speaker 3: him get blasted on social media and networks.
Speaker 2: They I mean not even mentioning him. They're out there
Speaker 2: loving us. He moved on. That's why that was years.
Speaker 2: That was years in the vacant man. That was last year.
Speaker 4: Just I'm going to offer that the number one no, no,
Speaker 4: you make a valid point because Keller Moore had what
Speaker 4: the number one, number one offense in the red zone,
Speaker 4: number four and points, I mean everything statistical category that
Speaker 4: absolutely gets you another contract. It's stopped this key hole
Speaker 4: from working, could car from working around like me?
Speaker 2: I can't, Hey, Dan, let us in man.
Speaker 4: So the pressures on Mike McCarthy and that to that aspect.
Speaker 4: If it's the test, bro, it's the test.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Number one is stats, all that good stuff. We've seen
Speaker 4: that leak the league with five thousand yards and we
Speaker 4: looked at the team and was like that ain't it.
Speaker 2: So go with the stats. It's cool. Well, you know,
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Speaker 2: All right, Hecma Harrison appreciate that Hekma is gonna be.
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Speaker 2: Will suh? I will fivecorn ready? Yeah?
Speaker 4: You see me in my Saxy shirt. You know Saxy Football.
Speaker 4: It's my baby. He's gonna be on on v to night.
Speaker 4: But I gotta call the game tonight, so make sure
Speaker 4: I support man. You know he'd be wearing that green,
Speaker 4: So he'll be wearing that green. See you out there,
Speaker 4: talk about flying.
Speaker 2: You will forgive me, you will forgive me, You will
Speaker 2: forgive me.
Speaker 4: That's all I have to ask, Hey, that's my bfl
Speaker 4: give my baby, do that Jerry gonna make the call?
Speaker 2: Gonna let you go like Chris ba Yes, yes, maybe
Speaker 2: nick Nicky make the call? Lord please? Will not be
Speaker 2: something that they just called it. If she well, draft
Speaker 2: happens all the week. Well I don't know.
Speaker 3: Well, draft happens on Thursday Friday.
Speaker 2: They tell her to come on down and get that
Speaker 2: make the Yeah, hot, Would you cry as much as
Speaker 2: Chris did? If I wouldn't, that would be no good.
Speaker 2: You know, I want to thank God.
Speaker 3: That that was one of the coolest draft moments I've
Speaker 3: ever seen, when when when Chris Bond got to make
Speaker 3: the call to his son.
Speaker 2: I mean I still get chills.
Speaker 3: Just watching that of just just that moment and then
Speaker 3: just having seen having seen Deuce uh play twice in person,
Speaker 3: just know, okay, this this this was a kid who
Speaker 3: because of his height, you know, had been you counted
Speaker 3: down and just all everything he just produced. Man, and
Speaker 3: then just the way they loved him at Kansas State.
Speaker 3: Just knowing that you know, this kid is gonna come
Speaker 3: here and have if if provided the opportunity to do
Speaker 3: the same things, and you know, the camp to all
Speaker 3: the people who were wanting to be right.
Speaker 2: It was just it's a great, cool story.
Speaker 3: And and by the way, we've all agreed right here
Speaker 3: on the players.
Speaker 2: Deuce is on the team.
Speaker 4: I think I think Dak agrees to Dak said he
Speaker 4: can't wait. I can't wait to see so, you know,
Speaker 4: so we don't. He doesn't need to shine.
Speaker 2: He good, good, he good.
Speaker 3: So, by the way, before we get in, who needs
Speaker 3: to shine tomorrow? Dak was asked by Clarence Hill to
Speaker 3: start telegram. How come he didn't get on the go
Speaker 3: fly with Cooks?
Speaker 2: What he said?
Speaker 3: He said, I needed a drink and it was too
Speaker 3: close to pregame, so I didn't. I didn't have a
Speaker 3: drink to going up there with him, So like I need,
Speaker 3: I need a drink to go do that.
Speaker 2: So he did not fly. That's somebody called the soul plane.
Speaker 2: See how that came down? He can't This is what
Speaker 2: speaking of the soul plane.
Speaker 4: Hey, y'all, y'all, y'all old cats bro paying attention to Kevin,
Speaker 4: don't get out that thing and you can run and
Speaker 4: race and do all that stuff.
Speaker 2: Get out there.
Speaker 4: Slip that on the soul playing reference. Okay, I don't
Speaker 4: think about how the way to get it in with
Speaker 4: the old schools and.
Speaker 2: That man toys at Duster, he's the TODs. How do
Speaker 2: you do that? Your ham and your abductor.
Speaker 4: By the way, he was raising the former l s
Speaker 4: U guy, Stephen Ridley, you know, the Patriots all that stuff. No, man,
Speaker 4: don't get I don't never get a twisted man. Don't
Speaker 4: worry about me.
Speaker 2: I'm good trying to race.
Speaker 3: Greg Gallows was trying to get folks to sign up
Speaker 3: for the church basketball game, the little three on three
Speaker 3: tournamented church and and uh Clarence Hills a deacon there
Speaker 3: with with Greg Gallois and and uh chilst I'm not
Speaker 3: gonna pull no handstrings for the Lord.
Speaker 2: I agree with having no kneeds no third So who needs?
Speaker 2: Who needs to shine tomorrow against the Raiders? Is Mizi
Speaker 2: Smith playing tomorrow? I hope? So? Yeah, Why wouldn't he?
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 4: Y'all been hearing me, y'all been hearing me this whole time.
Speaker 4: That's the only thing I want to see.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 4: One, if we're saying, if we're saying that he needs
Speaker 4: more reps, he needs to figure out how to use
Speaker 4: his technique more than just his strength and God given ability.
Speaker 4: Then the best way for you to get that is
Speaker 4: in live game reps against competition that is not your teammates,
Speaker 4: as guys who are out there trying to make some
Speaker 4: money and get their spot on the roster, so you're
Speaker 4: gonna get one hundred percent of what they got. I
Speaker 4: want to see mis Smith make a step forward. I
Speaker 4: want to see it don't have to be everything's perfect.
Speaker 4: I want to see that he is understanding that technique
Speaker 4: is a little bit more important for him right now
Speaker 4: than it was back when he was at Michigan. All Right,
Speaker 4: That's all I want to see, because I really believe
Speaker 4: wholeheartedly that if this defense is going to be like
Speaker 4: what we spoke about in the show who was was
Speaker 4: It Wolf? Who was THEO?
Speaker 2: It was Wolf?
Speaker 4: If they're gonna if they're gonna be what we want
Speaker 4: them to be, you gotta be able to stop the.
Speaker 2: Run and not the whole game.
Speaker 4: But we need you to make some of those plays
Speaker 4: in those big time moments third and one, third and
Speaker 4: third and one, right, fourth and one, you know, third,
Speaker 4: second and six, and then making it third night because
Speaker 4: you canna stop them in the back. Some of those
Speaker 4: type of players. I ain't talking about sacks. We know
Speaker 4: we got that. I want to see somebody be able
Speaker 4: to get in there insure up that gap that we've
Speaker 4: been talking about for the last few years. Yeah, my
Speaker 4: man Monzi was drafted for the situation that fourth and
Speaker 4: one that you talk at third and one you're talking about.
Speaker 4: We took a lot of gashes in the running game
Speaker 4: from Philly and from the forty nine ers. So I
Speaker 4: really this this segment should be should be labeled, you know, Tucky.
Speaker 2: Chain or wear it in the rain. You know who
Speaker 2: is the authentic article and who is fake?
Speaker 4: Because we're trying to figure out who's gonna who's gonna
Speaker 4: load up, who's gonna go.
Speaker 2: With us right now?
Speaker 4: And it's those third and fourth level guys that we
Speaker 4: still have question marks around. And look, I know that
Speaker 4: April fourth this year when we signed Hankins, I think
Speaker 4: that solidified what.
Speaker 2: We were looking at in the defensive line.
Speaker 4: Quinn, guys like bo Hannah that are gonna be behind Hankins.
Speaker 4: That to me, it solidifies what we need in our
Speaker 4: one tech to gobble up blocks and allow our linebackers
Speaker 4: to run downhill. Mazie didn't look good. There's no other
Speaker 4: way to put it. He didn't look good in practicing
Speaker 4: one on ones the bull rush all that. That's fine.
Speaker 4: He showed a little bit of his immaturity with the
Speaker 4: comment that he made I just like to head people.
Speaker 2: I don't like.
Speaker 4: All right, let's say, let's ask the young man to
Speaker 4: grow up, and maybe this year is going to be
Speaker 4: a learning process for him. It may be the all
Speaker 4: of those things that you're asking him to do. He
Speaker 4: can be that for us maybe later in the season,
Speaker 4: because right now it don't look like jaylober No, no, no,
Speaker 4: if he is. If he is, maybe the same rules
Speaker 4: will flock.
Speaker 2: You're giving up first rune when you lose. Heck, that's real.
Speaker 4: No, you know, I see I thought I put a
Speaker 4: bow on that, bro.
Speaker 2: Did it sound like I was?
Speaker 4: I've lost That sounds like you're read certain the guy.
Speaker 2: Maybe he's gonna be.
Speaker 4: A guy who can do that for us in the future,
Speaker 4: not the immedia future, but later off of like next
Speaker 4: year future. So let me say this, like, he's not
Speaker 4: Aaron Donald yet, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know. And this is the thing.
Speaker 4: When I start talking about a guy like Aaron Donald,
Speaker 4: who is an oddity because he's an inside pass rusher.
Speaker 4: All right, we're not gonna ask him to be that
Speaker 4: same piece in our defense, and so.
Speaker 2: Right, but what what is it?
Speaker 4: He's getting reached, he's getting misplaced, misplaced, he's getting turned.
Speaker 2: Those are the things that you cannot have happen.
Speaker 4: And I'm just like you, man, I'm gonna be looking
Speaker 4: at number fifty eight tomorrow seeing what he does.
Speaker 2: I don't know, red shirt, he ain't gonna gonna be.
Speaker 5: But for my dude, I need to have a good game.
Speaker 5: It's not for him to make the team. I feel
Speaker 5: like he's already on the team, but to get a
Speaker 5: bigger role. And that's Marquis Bell. You know, after we
Speaker 5: saw or the reports out there that he's gonna go
Speaker 5: down there and play a little bit of linebacker as well,
Speaker 5: kind of that hybrid safety role. But if he's able
Speaker 5: to go down there and dominate, or if he's able
Speaker 5: to go out there and show out maybe this game
Speaker 5: and then you know, he gets a little bit more
Speaker 5: reps in that first regular season game. If he's able
Speaker 5: to ball out, they can carve out a nice little
Speaker 5: niche for him because we know the two safeties they
Speaker 5: already got paid.
Speaker 2: Youre talking about Wilson, you talking about what they getting paid. Curse.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I don't know what's going on with the whole year.
Speaker 5: Gart What I'm saying guarantee the whole year. So we'll
Speaker 5: see what happens. But if he goes out there and
Speaker 5: balls out, he can carve himself a nice little role
Speaker 5: on this defense and hopefully in the future he can
Speaker 5: ball out as well.
Speaker 4: Who is it safety that went to play that position?
Speaker 4: Move down a little bit for Mark Mark Barron. Can
Speaker 4: you watch the tape on Mark Barron and say, hey,
Speaker 4: he's paid off of that too. Yeah, and let's see,
Speaker 4: let's see if you can play that role because he
Speaker 4: was he was effective when they moved them me because
Speaker 4: he was effective they found in these form and he
Speaker 4: went out there and you know, he did what he's
Speaker 4: supposed to do. So if that's the role that you
Speaker 4: were thinking of, you know, Bill getting down there to play,
Speaker 4: then you know, if he could be that, then that
Speaker 4: success and especially the reports that you've been hearing about
Speaker 4: dan Quinn adding linebacker responsibilities to what he does and
Speaker 4: he already see that he plays along the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 4: But your run curse and him are kind of becoming
Speaker 4: one A and one B really close and what they
Speaker 4: what they do. I think the bigger question is can
Speaker 4: he cover tight ends. If that's the biggest question mark
Speaker 4: that then he's going to get that answer throughout the season.
Speaker 4: But I want to include I got Neville Gallimore because
Speaker 4: because y'all been talking about Neville Gallamore, Nevill Galamore, y'all
Speaker 4: been throwing him in there. I started off talking about
Speaker 4: Chauncey Golston, So I think it's the combination of those
Speaker 4: two players and where the Dallas Cowboys feel like they are.
Speaker 2: So that's where I was going to go.
Speaker 3: Golston, Gallimore, Bohannah, this group these three guys, you know,
Speaker 3: who makes his team?
Speaker 2: So that that's going to be very interesting.
Speaker 3: I think they're going to keep Junior for Hoko uh
Speaker 3: one of dan Quinn's guys that they drafted. But but
Speaker 3: looking here, and that was kind of even when we
Speaker 3: were in camp, just looking at r between Gallamore and Bohanna.
Speaker 2: Goldston, Who's who's gonna make it? Right now? Who do
Speaker 2: you who do you have leading the charge on that?
Speaker 3: Honestly, man, I I I don't know I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I would love to see guy because I feel like
Speaker 5: he flashed, like he got the juice.
Speaker 2: It's just a consistency hasn't been there.
Speaker 5: And it's just like man like Garrett always says, you
Speaker 5: can't be a flash in the pan type of player.
Speaker 5: You know that'll get you, I'll get you gone the
Speaker 5: injury injury.
Speaker 3: I'm leaning I think maybe Bohannah makes it if I'm
Speaker 3: choosing one between the three. But he said, this is
Speaker 3: they got another test. It's another test we'll see. This
Speaker 3: is a testament to Will McClay and what they have
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Speaker 3: drafted and they may not make this team. Right now,
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Speaker 3: Raiders Cowboys tomorrow final preseason game. Kelton Joseph is making
Speaker 3: this team, and I know he gets fans have things
Speaker 3: to say at times about his play, and I understand.
Speaker 3: Have to watch training camp, I know, and he's like
Speaker 3: number one giving up another touchdown. A lot of folks,
Speaker 3: a lot of folks is putting up points on Number
Speaker 3: one out there. But he's going to be a part
Speaker 3: of this team. Mike McCarthy constantly talks about position flex.
Speaker 3: He loves the fact that Kelvin could play inside outside,
Speaker 3: playing the slot, and he is earning his keep on
Speaker 3: special teams. You of all people Danny have preached and
Speaker 3: talked about the importance of special teams.
Speaker 2: We know C. J. Goodwin is in one category alone
Speaker 2: by himself.
Speaker 3: But then after that you start talking about importance of
Speaker 3: special teams, and I talked about the bunter and the
Speaker 3: kicker and then lost time. Kelvin Joseph has shown he
Speaker 3: brings value to this team on special team.
Speaker 2: He's the second best guy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, easily when you when you're going down the roster
Speaker 4: of guys like I don't really me, I don't believe
Speaker 4: that when you look at Kevin Joseph, even McCarthy like,
Speaker 4: he's gonna be on the squad. So then you have
Speaker 4: to keep his confident confidence up to say, all right,
Speaker 4: if people do go down, he's on the right. He's
Speaker 4: gonna have to get in there and play and be
Speaker 4: you know, service, but his main road is going to
Speaker 4: be on special teams. And you got CJ. Goodwin and
Speaker 4: then you got kel Man Joseph, and then it goes
Speaker 4: down the list for a fossil. Right, he's like, hey man,
Speaker 4: what what four guys do you need? The top two
Speaker 4: or C. J. Goodwin and Kelvin Joseph. All right, and
Speaker 4: then you got to figure out the other core guys.
Speaker 4: So I've always always been of the belief that Kelvin
Speaker 4: Joseph is going to be on the roster as long
Speaker 4: as he continues to show up on special teams. And
Speaker 4: that's what he did, and shout out to him because
Speaker 4: that's that's his thing. Now he can be CJ.
Speaker 2: Gooding. I'm like, Mayn, how many years did you play
Speaker 2: in the league? Twelve?
Speaker 4: And I was a special teams guy making a million
Speaker 4: dollars a year sometimes two, right, And that's if that's
Speaker 4: what it is for you, then that's what it is.
Speaker 4: And I'm I'm I'm happy for the guy because that
Speaker 4: means he understands what where's bread is buttered?
Speaker 5: Look, I understand like you see, like Danny McCrae said,
Speaker 5: I mean, you got two casts, the stars of your
Speaker 5: special teams, and you can tell by the position they're
Speaker 5: put in. If you're a gunner on the other side,
Speaker 5: that means you're one of the top dogs. If you're
Speaker 5: a five on kickoff, it means you're the middle to
Speaker 5: kickoffs to kickoff grouping, and you're one of the fastest
Speaker 5: guys down there.
Speaker 2: You're a star on special team so he's gonna make it.
Speaker 5: When you talk about Kelvin Joseph, last year, he had
Speaker 5: a lot of things going on off the field, you know,
Speaker 5: and that was his first year in the NFL, A
Speaker 5: lot of stuff off the field. Can he he was
Speaker 5: you know, he was rapping, He had that you know,
Speaker 5: legal troubles, all that good stuff you can kind of
Speaker 5: throw a damper on what you got going on in
Speaker 5: the field. This year, we haven't heard much about him
Speaker 5: off the fields, and hopefully he's focusing in on his
Speaker 5: job and what he needs to be doing. And like
Speaker 5: we said, he's made plays on special teams, so he
Speaker 5: knows where his his his bread is being buttered.
Speaker 2: Now can he make the transition and get better on defense?
Speaker 5: I've seen a little bit you're talking about you're talking
Speaker 5: about preseason games. You've seen a little bit. He's been
Speaker 5: a little bit more sticky in coverage. He hasn't been
Speaker 5: having as many penalties as he had out there his
Speaker 5: rookie year. So, hath do you think He's one of
Speaker 5: those guys that maybe it takes a little bit of
Speaker 5: time to get going, and hopefully he's found his footing.
Speaker 4: I tell you what, you know what I love it
Speaker 4: when y'all do this, because what y'all do is y'all
Speaker 4: put that butter on and then when the season started,
Speaker 4: y'all roast him again.
Speaker 2: Right, that's what you do.
Speaker 4: You roast him again, because then it starts coming down
Speaker 4: to where you're drafted. Oh and you're just a special
Speaker 4: teams player. That wasn't what the vision that they had
Speaker 4: in their head for Kelvin Joseph, And y'all gonna remember
Speaker 4: that at a certain point in the season, y'all gonna
Speaker 4: remind everybody that's him. He listen the difference between what
Speaker 4: I said and what Church said. I didn't say nothing
Speaker 4: about seeing on off, seeing the attorney camp that he's
Speaker 4: playing better on at the cornerback.
Speaker 2: I just say nothing. I know, I said, I know
Speaker 2: specifically what his role is.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Churt's over there giving him. We might need to
Speaker 4: put him back out there. I come by what I see.
Speaker 4: What has to happen for Kevin Joseph to get in
Speaker 4: there and play defensive back.
Speaker 2: What has to happen on the defense? Might got get injured?
Speaker 2: How many? How many? I say, just one? He's just one.
Speaker 2: He looking at he's price. He's your number six going Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's who one of them Blander or or Jay Logo.
Speaker 2: Now that's two they both play Nicole Man, Are you
Speaker 2: sure they both? So you're talking.
Speaker 3: He's not playing j right, and he got Scott and
Speaker 3: then then it's him who Scott.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Kevin Joseph is down.
Speaker 4: He might not even be getting rips out there on
Speaker 4: a scout when they when they practice that for that.
Speaker 4: But I'm gonna say this right, so moving him inside
Speaker 4: to Nickel, I think he's been better. And I'm gonna
Speaker 4: ask you, man, because I feel like a guy that
Speaker 4: for Kevin Joseph came from L s U and Kentucky.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: Playing man coverage a guy to get up on you
Speaker 4: and want to be physical. Now they're saying that he's
Speaker 4: having well. John Owning and Pro Football Focus wrote an
Speaker 4: article talking about him playing off coverage and how that's
Speaker 4: better suited him now that he can just drive on
Speaker 4: the ball versus trying to be more physical at the
Speaker 4: line of scrimmage. Is that just little technical thing that
Speaker 4: change has made the difference for him as a player
Speaker 4: and maybe made him your second string Nickel?
Speaker 5: I mean to me, I just think he his body
Speaker 5: type and his play style is better suited for a nickel. Okay,
Speaker 5: when you're out there on the island by yourself on
Speaker 5: the outside, and you got bigger guys that are usually
Speaker 5: gonna go against you're going against the A. J. Greens,
Speaker 5: you know, Julio Jones, big guys that we've seen can
Speaker 5: just win fifty fifty balls out there, and I don't
Speaker 5: think that suits him. And like you said, when you
Speaker 5: get up in that press coverage, you gotta be a
Speaker 5: physical guy.
Speaker 2: You gotta be able to put hands on people.
Speaker 5: And people have been kind of washing him to the
Speaker 5: side when he gets press coverage out there. But when
Speaker 5: he's in that nickel and he's off and he gets
Speaker 5: to see everything, I think he becomes a better defensive
Speaker 5: player in that regard.
Speaker 2: Our hair said he's strong as battery act. That's strong.
Speaker 2: So hold on.
Speaker 4: You said he can't press. I ain't say he couldn't.
Speaker 4: Proud people saying he don't when he gets in there.
Speaker 4: He's been having trouble on press technique and he's better
Speaker 4: with off. So what happens on thirty three third two?
Speaker 2: Got to get play six?
Speaker 5: See nickel, really don't because pressed like that because you
Speaker 5: don't want to get rubbed out.
Speaker 4: A lot of stacks against teams that play man and
Speaker 4: man coverage. Depending on down the distance, you might you
Speaker 4: might have to get in there. And I'll tell you
Speaker 4: what if you press and nickel and you get beat
Speaker 4: off the line, Yeah, I'm gonna play all technique and
Speaker 4: try to drive on some nigga on a scene right
Speaker 4: on you like you gotta be taking that is That's
Speaker 4: why Orlando Scandrin got paid so many times because the
Speaker 4: nickel position is probably one of the hardest positions for
Speaker 4: you to play because you got to know route concepts.
Speaker 2: You got to understand and be able to feel those.
Speaker 4: Route concepts, and you gotta be able to press and playoff.
Speaker 4: And that's at five not the usual seven yards. Like
Speaker 4: you got to have everything to play nickel. That's why
Speaker 4: Durrun playing he has a special talent for being able
Speaker 4: to play nickel, and Jordan Lewis has a special talent
Speaker 4: for being able to play nickel. You have to you
Speaker 4: gotta be you have to have those special techniques and
Speaker 4: skills to be able to do that. And nobody's forgot
Speaker 4: about the Zay Jones game Jacksonville. It's that's still it's
Speaker 4: still tape out there. So I mean, if you just
Speaker 4: want to go back to the tape, it's still out there.
Speaker 4: So that time consistency in proof. It's in the water.
Speaker 4: Make a million dollars a year, Bro, a million plus.
Speaker 3: He's a special team who is one of the last dbs.
Speaker 3: It's one of your last corners that's out there. I'm
Speaker 3: long since stop expecting him to be a corner that's
Speaker 3: playing significant snaps for the Cowboys because he was drafted
Speaker 3: as a number two, you know, second round draft pick
Speaker 3: that both sailed for me.
Speaker 2: This guy's a special teamer who they like.
Speaker 3: He's he's there as a corner and you know, if
Speaker 3: they got to put him in, they got to put
Speaker 3: him in. But they have went out and got other
Speaker 3: players like a Iran Bland who they took in the
Speaker 3: fifth round, who led the team and picked last year.
Speaker 2: These guys have surpassed him, but he's still on the team.
Speaker 3: They're not cutting a guy, right, They're not cutting a
Speaker 3: guy who they spit that kind of hot.
Speaker 2: When's the last time they cut a dude they took.
Speaker 3: In the second round three years in and done it forever.
Speaker 3: So he's gonna be here. He's found a role, be
Speaker 3: clear special team's difference maker. When you say he's a
Speaker 3: difference maker one not just not just the guy.
Speaker 2: So so he's there. I live with it for this year,
Speaker 2: for this year.
Speaker 3: Next year, we'll see if he has to get out
Speaker 3: there and play I saw, I saw camp.
Speaker 2: It could be it could be out.
Speaker 4: But that room is crowded, don't That room is crowded,
Speaker 4: extremely crowded.
Speaker 3: And if he you know, tomorrow, tomorrow, if he makes
Speaker 3: a couple of plays, make it, make people feel good,
Speaker 3: make me make you feel good.
Speaker 5: Speaking of the corners, what they're gonna do with the
Speaker 5: nickel position right now? Like like, so are they gonna
Speaker 5: be rotating?
Speaker 2: Is it? Or somebody specific? Is Jay Lou even healthy?
Speaker 2: That's is he? He says he's He says he's good.
Speaker 3: So so you know this is this is what and
Speaker 3: Dan Quinny trust That's how I.
Speaker 5: Look at that one, because he got a nice price
Speaker 5: tag on for especially if he's not gonna start What
Speaker 5: do you mean in terms of like you think he
Speaker 5: mean I be here. I mean, it's just he's gonna
Speaker 5: be here because I mean he's gonna because you need corners.
Speaker 5: But it's one of the last time you've seen you know,
Speaker 5: a five minute was it five six million dollars?
Speaker 2: Back up, Nickel, you haven't.
Speaker 3: He's gonna be here. And it's seventeen. And at seventeen season,
Speaker 3: where we've seen guys get hurt as much as we
Speaker 3: like Gilmore were the top four oldest starting corners in
Speaker 3: the game. I mean, you you you gotta have death.
Speaker 3: You needed the death last year, so I don't see
Speaker 3: I mean, all right, you cut this guy. Somebody else
Speaker 3: gonna pick him up, paid price tag. I mean, they're
Speaker 3: gonna do it in.
Speaker 2: This league, oh man.
Speaker 3: And if you think you had the kind of defense
Speaker 3: you want, you were including him in this Jordan Lewis
Speaker 3: is in the conversation about you trying to have a
Speaker 3: good I mean, I'm.
Speaker 2: Sorry, we walked about well, we got too many gus,
Speaker 2: I have too much fit, we got too much pitchy,
Speaker 2: we got too many corners. But you hear your but
Speaker 2: you're paying that man.
Speaker 5: Though I could see he was making why Anthony Brown
Speaker 5: last year he wasn't making six Anthony Bryan.
Speaker 2: Wouldn't that what happened?
Speaker 3: And the last year so you said that, okay, so
Speaker 3: Zay Joe, we saw Jay Jones do this thing like that.
Speaker 5: That's what so all masking. I'm not saying that you
Speaker 5: get rid of the guy. All I'm saying is you
Speaker 5: can paying a little guy a lot of ducats to
Speaker 5: be at to be a backup. Okay, that's that's good.
Speaker 5: That's good, that's good business.
Speaker 2: That's what they paying it all five million back up?
Speaker 2: That about is he on the final year? Is final?
Speaker 7: You?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Because three years? Do you think he gets set out?
Speaker 2: You know? You know, my man, Adam.
Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying that, that's what I'm thinking of.
Speaker 5: I'm like, do you talk to him saying you might
Speaker 5: need to take a haircut?
Speaker 2: Option? You got to getting the options because I mean,
Speaker 2: it's that's I'm just saying. If you especially if you're
Speaker 2: not starting, you got five how long they give you,
Speaker 2: d they give you? Came out, you walk room there,
Speaker 2: you want to call you got me? I don't know,
Speaker 2: that's just trying to take people money.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying. I'm I'm talking about it as a whole.
Speaker 2: We were talking about this position. The nickel position is
Speaker 2: value position.
Speaker 5: You got a guy that's a heck of a lot cheaper,
Speaker 5: that's making plays and playing right.
Speaker 2: Why can't we have both? Because what is he going
Speaker 2: to say, Jerry Money, why are you trying to say
Speaker 2: saying that your started what you going through with Jay?
Speaker 4: Like? What? No? I mean, it's a serious decision to make,
Speaker 4: and I think teams do it all the time. They
Speaker 4: go with the youth and the less expensive guy, especially
Speaker 4: if they're doing the same thing. I mean, we're not
Speaker 4: even talking about Eric Scott, your draft pick that if
Speaker 4: he's doing the same thing that Kelvin Joseph can do
Speaker 4: on special teams or we don't have proof of that.
Speaker 4: We don't know if he can. But does that does
Speaker 4: that mean anything to you?
Speaker 2: Uh Na?
Speaker 4: Sean Wright, we had he hadn't played a couple of
Speaker 4: games because I believe ankle injury or whatever he's dealing with.
Speaker 4: But there's some decisions that you have to make. There
Speaker 4: is Israel Mukuomo. He's a flex guy that goes from
Speaker 4: safety and corner as well. There's there's still a lot
Speaker 4: of decisions to be made. And I'm with you too
Speaker 4: on this. You can't have enough of them. You're gonna
Speaker 4: need them, You're gonna use them. But a five million
Speaker 4: dollar backup hey and He's a good don't get me wrong,
Speaker 4: like if you were losing a ball.
Speaker 5: When we first saw him out there, he was a
Speaker 5: ball guy, all over the force and fumbles doing all
Speaker 5: our gud stuff.
Speaker 2: But I'm just saying, if.
Speaker 5: You can't beat out dun Bland, I mean, it's a conversation.
Speaker 3: So when you say beat out, it's not as though
Speaker 3: they were both out here training camp and we saw
Speaker 3: them go ahead.
Speaker 2: You know, Okay, it was hurt. You've got four corners
Speaker 2: that you can feel real good about. This is true.
Speaker 2: I'm not about to sit up here and try and
Speaker 2: cut salary on. I'm gonna need. I'm goad. History shows
Speaker 2: you you're gonna need these guys. I'm not messing with it.
Speaker 3: If I think if I think I have the team
Speaker 3: that I that I think I do, and I think
Speaker 3: that you could you know, they're talking like they can
Speaker 3: go to Las Vegas.
Speaker 2: I'm not touching it. So what Okay? So all right, dude,
Speaker 2: you got over them.
Speaker 3: Okay, fine, you jered you You're gonna be okay, do
Speaker 3: it and go another sponsor being you know, official the
Speaker 3: official sock sponsor, official wrench organization and make.
Speaker 2: Up for that new he's on the building fund for
Speaker 2: your church. Get go, get your church.
Speaker 4: Don't worry about what you're talking about.
Speaker 2: Put that money.
Speaker 4: Come on, why are you trying to save Jerry money?
Speaker 2: You got it? Wow, I'm okay. So Monday, do you
Speaker 2: expect to see him here? Yeah?
Speaker 5: I mean, because there's been no talks about it, know nothing.
Speaker 5: I expect him to be here and his price tag
Speaker 5: will probably be the same.
Speaker 2: It's just that's that's all I say. Healthy the hefty stuff.
Speaker 4: Dad for that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I expect him at his price. Yes, expect you
Speaker 2: to be here this price. I do. There's no conversation
Speaker 2: about it.
Speaker 4: So if he's healthy right now, like he says he isn't,
Speaker 4: I expect him to be here at his price. If
Speaker 4: he wasn't healthy then then maybe then maybe you had
Speaker 4: that conversation. But if he's healthy now, I.
Speaker 3: Think in the show on this nugget, I did ask
Speaker 3: Mike McCarthy about ric O'Donell in the in the Punk
Speaker 3: getting blocked in. He said, you know, three previous ones
Speaker 3: before he had no issues.
Speaker 2: He's normally good.
Speaker 3: He said, he just let him go inside, and you
Speaker 3: know you can't let let the guy slide inside and
Speaker 3: he said, you know, learning moment for him.
Speaker 2: He'll get better better from it.
Speaker 3: So so Mike, Mike, Mike felt like it was a
Speaker 3: brain fart and then he would be okay.
Speaker 4: So that was probably good that he saw it because
Speaker 4: he knows now, he knows, knows one thing to tell
Speaker 4: you about it in the meeting room, another thing for
Speaker 4: you to get out there.
Speaker 2: And it happened to you. So there you go, all right?
Speaker 2: He how good weekend man.
Speaker 3: I will look forward to seeing the fifty final fifty
Speaker 3: three Sunday when they when they unvailable. Danny Craye appreciate you,
Speaker 3: Barry Church on tape.
Speaker 2: Folks, money and need to be had.
Speaker 3: Salary, salary cat Barry cat Man, cat man, Very Church.
Speaker 2: In front office pretty soon. Yeah, I don't talk to
Speaker 2: you next week.
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