1 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 2: Cowboys. 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 1: This is the Players Lounge, broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys 5 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: World headquarters at the Star. Now your hosts Barry Church, 6 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: Danny McCrae, Heckma Harrison and new He scrugs. 7 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 2: Signal the hat is off to the half of it 8 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 2: is on. Find your chair. Let's get ready, go to 9 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 2: rock bottom down if you got it. 10 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 3: We are here on the Players Last right here on 11 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 3: the Dallas Cowboys Radio. 12 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 2: Network on the Midcast Network. We're getting done. Heckma Harrison 13 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 2: is here, Danny McCrae is here. He's frustrated with Barry Church. 14 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 3: They we got a great argument that Dan got off. 15 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 4: He frustrated, But not me because I know I can 16 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 4: just look at the numbers and see. 17 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 2: Man, I tell you what they do. Agree with you. 18 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 2: This is Church. Come out on the field on left. 19 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 2: We'll talk about this on the breaking. This is from Pittsburgh. 20 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 2: Got Pittsburgh. 21 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 4: It's a valid argument, man. So anyway, what's up with you? 22 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 4: Knew he got your TCU on to day? What's going 23 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 4: you go to school today? That you go out to 24 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 4: the campus. 25 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 3: Actually today is the first day of the Executive NBA 26 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 3: class that I don't. 27 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 2: Have to work back. How you put that work in? Else? 28 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 2: Know why he got that on? Huh? Because we didn't 29 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 2: ran them about it at Pittsburgh, Sir. With that trust 30 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 2: he got another school. Did you ever see the trustee? 31 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 2: I did? Right, a trust man. 32 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 3: Us Athletics, Warren Buffett Company. We have now upgrade with 33 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 3: a validated go ahead Adidas okay D two Adidas school. 34 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 2: Thank you very He ain't came back up in there. 35 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 2: That's what I know. It never said trustee. Lie, oh, 36 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 2: it didn't have trust girls. You know the flippers that 37 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 2: these guys tell the darkness? 38 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 3: Where is now the twenty third name of the Cowboys 39 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 3: were talking about it here on the planers. 40 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 2: Last the summer played the lottery dware you winning? Yeah? 41 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 3: So this this you know earlier this month inducting the 42 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 3: Pro Football Hall of Fame, and then this week finds 43 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 3: out that he's going into the Cowboys Ring of Honor 44 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 3: this year. 45 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 2: So I. 46 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 3: Feels more than deserved. And the unfortunate things. You have 47 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 3: to remind certain Cowboy people what he did here because 48 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 3: he won the Super Bowl with Denver. True, but the 49 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 3: guys all time leading sack artist here in this franchise, 50 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 3: and I'm sorry, some pretty good players and played in 51 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 3: this uniform and won super Bowls and so to have 52 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 3: that number, and he's all time retired, all time top 53 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 3: ten in the NFL and sacks. So when I think 54 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 3: of the Ring of Honor, Tamarcus Ware belongs there. And 55 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:22,239 Speaker 3: the fact that anybody's trying to push back, I find surprise. 56 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, there there should be no pushback when you talk 57 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 5: about the Marcus where you know, being in the Ring 58 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 5: of Honor. I mean this guy, like you said, all 59 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 5: time sacks leader here, and I know he did his 60 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 5: work over there in Denver as well, winning a Super Bowl, 61 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 5: But I mean the prime, the bulk of his career 62 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 5: where he was doing the most work, where people are like, man, 63 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 5: you got a fear number ninety four. 64 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 2: It was here when he had a star on his helmet. 65 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 5: And to me, it couldn't happen to a better guy, 66 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 5: because even though he was a great football player, I 67 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 5: think he was even better man because of what he 68 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 5: did with those young guys coming in. No matter if 69 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 5: you were a first round or if you were undrafted, 70 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 5: he gave you his knowledge that he knew and he 71 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 5: passed it on, So it couldn't happen to a better man. 72 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 2: And I'm super happy for Dwaar. 73 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 4: Yeah I didn't obviously never played with a Deware, but 74 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 4: just knowing him as a person, one of the nicest 75 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 4: guys you ever want to meet. Those Christmas parties that 76 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 4: we used to have for the kids, they canceled them. 77 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 4: They're coming back this shit though. 78 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 2: Christmas parties. 79 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 4: My son would always want to take a picture with Dwaar, 80 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 4: and sometimes it would be after a massive loss and 81 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 4: he see it was gracious enough to take the picture. 82 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:23,679 Speaker 2: Man, he's just a good dude. Yeah, man, cowboy. 83 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 4: Ring of honor though, how that is a massive, massive 84 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 4: honor for him as a player, and I'm sure one 85 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 4: that he couldn't have seen coming. And it's just the 86 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 4: people that are already in there, and just for him 87 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 4: to be included in that, it just speaks about who 88 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 4: he is as a player and the kind of numbers 89 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 4: and reputation that he had in the NFL period. 90 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, shout out to Dwear everything, y'all said, great guy. 91 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 4: He was my locker my locker mate, my rookie year, 92 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 4: so taught me a lot made sure he took me 93 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 4: under his wing to show me how to be a professional. 94 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 4: So I got nothing but love for Dware and for 95 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 4: all the people who, like you said, who are pushing 96 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 4: back on dewear. He went to win a super Bowl 97 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 4: and dinner and all that stuff, and in the entirety 98 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 4: of his career here as a Dallas Cowboy player, it 99 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 4: has never been mentioned or thought of of him being 100 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 4: a reason why we haven't. Won't you look at it, 101 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 4: be like, man, we got Deworld on the team we 102 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 4: should be, and we owe it to him to then 103 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 4: be able to get to that because you have. 104 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 2: A player that great on your team. I e. 105 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 4: Like Michael Parsons, you say, this is a time and 106 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 4: that's a piece that you need to use to make 107 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 4: sure that you maximize it while they're here, because you 108 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 4: never know when you're gonna see another one again. 109 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 2: So shout out to Dware and the fact that he 110 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 2: did go to Denver. I was. 111 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 3: I was at a Toys r Us on Christmas, even 112 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 3: your neighborhood, and Dware, I'm there shopping. He happens to 113 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 3: be there, and it's that point in time where he 114 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 3: thought he was going to get cut and it was 115 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 3: pretty sure. Then we're gonna bring it back, contract everything, 116 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 3: and I said, you know you get enough job, right 117 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 3: you say? 118 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 2: And he was really he was that down. 119 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 3: And I won't say he lost confidence, but it was 120 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 3: just that moment of just trying to figure what's next 121 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 3: because he knew what was coming. And I was like, hey, 122 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 3: you go be Vine and he ends up going to Denver. 123 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 3: Von Miller needed DeMarcus Ware because if you remember, earlier 124 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 3: on his career, Vaughn had a couple issues. 125 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 2: D Ware got Von to where he needed to be 126 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 2: and I dare say. 127 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 3: This Vn's Super Bowl fifty MVP and the performance he 128 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 3: had was with and happened because of d Ware. And 129 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 3: then when he ends up going to Los Angeles and 130 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 3: he's around Aaron Donald. If you go look at the 131 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:39,479 Speaker 3: NFL Films video afterwards, you see Donald run up to 132 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 3: Vaughn and say thank. 133 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 2: You, thank you. 134 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 4: Man. 135 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 3: Come to find out through Vaughn's agent that Vaughn had 136 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 3: spoken to Aaron Donald about needing to step up and 137 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 3: understanding his talent and that you are not as good 138 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 3: as you need to be. You got to go come 139 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 3: give it to us. And that was from what d 140 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:00,559 Speaker 3: Ware taught him. And then I think about Iron Smith 141 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 3: All decade player. When Tyrant's drafted the first round, ninth 142 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 3: overall out of USC they had him working with where 143 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 3: and he was showing him those ropes of what he 144 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 3: needed to do, and he becomes an All decade player. 145 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 3: So I just think the impact of what that guy 146 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 3: when you talk about that's what ring of honor is. 147 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 2: That was just what he did. It's what he did 148 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 2: for other people. 149 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 3: Along the way that made them champions or and or 150 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 3: just some outstanding players. So I just think what you 151 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 3: guys talked about him as a man and what he means. 152 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 3: I mean, hey, Michael Parsons came in here, started working 153 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 3: with him right out of the game. 154 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 2: That's true. 155 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 4: That's the man you called. You want to learn how 156 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 4: to do it? You called DeMarcus Ware and he's around 157 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 4: the facility too. But I want to go back to 158 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 4: that Super Bowl fifty victory man the Denver Broncos was 159 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 4: on cams and Von Miller, the way that his game 160 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 4: transformed with DeMarcus where you could tell that was a 161 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 4: lot of influence. So when you talk about that and 162 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 4: the way that he transformed him, I think that that 163 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 4: was you know very well illustrated from you because you 164 00:07:57,680 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 4: saw the change in his game as soon as de 165 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 4: Marcus got there. And and remembering that Carolina offense at 166 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 4: that time. 167 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 2: Stop one. They came there and beat up down, they 168 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 2: beat up and. 169 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 3: Was not good in that game. He didn't have much. 170 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 3: In fact, Peyton had told the Marcus beforehand basically, I'm 171 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 3: gonna give you what a. 172 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 2: Guy and that ain't when I give you what I got, 173 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 2: go get it done. 174 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 3: And sure enough they did, and they wore out Reamers 175 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 3: and the other tackles. 176 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 2: Man. 177 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 3: But h what what what that defense did that day? 178 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 4: They talk about this all the time on the players 179 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 4: lounges Man offense went out there that didn't really give 180 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 4: them much. 181 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 2: Huh what the defense do for him to win? Run 182 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 2: the ball? You know what I'm saying. 183 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 4: Let your defense go out there and make those type 184 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 4: of players. Can they score for you? Can they can 185 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 4: they take the ball away for you? 186 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 2: Yes? They can? 187 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 4: When you're looking at a recipe for success, right and 188 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:03,839 Speaker 4: I say this, our quarterback is better than Peyton Manning 189 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 4: was at that time. Our offense is better than Denver's 190 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 4: offense was at that time. We should be able to 191 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 4: do something based off the defense. When you look at 192 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 4: this defense and you look at Denver's defense, you say, 193 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 4: all right, Corparable, I like where you go. But that's 194 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 4: when the pressure gets on, when you say, all right, well, 195 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 4: if it doesn't happen, then will then what's the issue? 196 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 2: Uncle Wayne's coordinated that defense. 197 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 3: They was rolling, they were that was That was one 198 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 3: of the I dare say this, And I really feel 199 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 3: bad for Wade Phillips because that Rams team that lost 200 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 3: to New England. And what Wade's fault, Well, he'll tell 201 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 3: me that thirteen thirteen thirteen, he did his job. Wonder 202 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 3: boy didn't do his job, and Wonder Boys quarterback didn't 203 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 3: do their job. But thirteen points Hall of Fame Tom 204 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 3: Brady in the Super Bowl. 205 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 2: You're supposed to get that, supposed to win that one. 206 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:01,559 Speaker 3: For show point, I said, I'm glad Wade, you know, 207 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 3: God is what different because what he did with the 208 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 3: Ram I'm like, my goodness, gracious, that was one of 209 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 3: the better performances from a coordinator've ever seen. 210 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so so, y'all, I mean, q's his time. 211 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 2: Really you gotta get it going. 212 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 4: He got it one like he be there, like he 213 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,839 Speaker 4: hasn't manufactured him a super Bowl winning out of a 214 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:23,719 Speaker 4: like that, right, it. 215 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 2: Wasn't his fault what Richard, I was there. I couldn't 216 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 2: believe you mean you should have had three? Yeah? I 217 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 2: should have three? Exactly? You up twenty eight to three? 218 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:42,439 Speaker 2: All right? Yeah? Coordinator who was a coordinator said should 219 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 2: have had three? Can we can we get him? But 220 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 2: can we give them number two away? Should look? They 221 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 2: this is you know, I'm not I'm not a hype person. 222 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 2: Not that's not what I eat it up to me. 223 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 2: I got you, but. 224 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:06,719 Speaker 3: I did cover super Bowl team. I've seen what defensive 225 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 3: talent looks like here. They're not what Jimmy's last team 226 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 3: was here. Okay, they're not that, but they've got some 227 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 3: really good impact pieces that can put you in a 228 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 3: position to be good. We talked about Denver's unit, where 229 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 3: you had where you had Vaughan, Your DB's back there 230 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,559 Speaker 3: between a key to leave Christy. They have some mean dbs. 231 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 3: You have a good defensive team that should put you there. 232 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 3: You played on a really good defensive team in Jacksonville 233 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 3: that had them right there. 234 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 2: You know. Oh yeah, that's why I want. 235 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:48,079 Speaker 4: To make sure we you know, we don't gloss over 236 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 4: that like we have some impact pieces, but this and this. 237 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 3: Okay, look when you talk about warts, right now, this 238 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 3: is the wart. 239 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 2: How do they fix the wart? It's a legitimate thing. 240 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 3: And we haven't seen a preseason game with these guys 241 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 3: out here all together to see exactly what it is 242 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:04,559 Speaker 3: they need to do. 243 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 2: I spoke to I spoke to Tank Lord. 244 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 5: Okay, related talk about wards and I'll get how great 245 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 5: the defense he is. If you can't take care of 246 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 5: the football, it's not gonna get done. 247 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 2: No, not true. 248 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 5: Peyton Manning, he might not have been painting from old 249 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 5: but what did they do? They ran the football, take 250 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 5: care of the football. We can't get this touchdowns, punt 251 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 5: it off to the defense. Let them do the work. 252 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 5: If we can't take care of the football here, I don't care. 253 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 5: If you've got parsons, you got this. You got a 254 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 5: whole on slot of defensive players, you're not gonna win 255 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 5: the games. 256 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 4: And when you have when you have a defense like that, 257 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 4: and you can turn Peyton Manning into a glorified bus driver, 258 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 4: it works simple for you. I think at this day 259 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 4: and age, and especially with Dak getting hurt last year, 260 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 4: I felt like he was pressing a lot through the season, 261 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 4: hence the turnovers. I'm not gonna give him any excuses 262 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 4: because I'm telling you I've ran Dak. I need AMMO 263 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 4: for these haters right now, Okay, because I'm surround, I can't. 264 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 2: Fight him off no longer. I need AMMO for these haters. 265 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:07,079 Speaker 4: And he has to make the plays when they're needed 266 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 4: to be made. That San Francisco game, the one thing 267 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 4: that keeps showing the same interception over and over, the 268 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 4: one that hits number one hands and then it deflects 269 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 4: to the linebacker, like, hey, two guys could have accepted 270 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 4: that one pass. And we've seen the bad turnovers from Dak, 271 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 4: but his career wasn't built on that. Nothing about who 272 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 4: he has been in the league has been on oh, 273 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 4: he's just a turnover machine. But we're gonna take that 274 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 4: simple size, which this guy never lists me, take a 275 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 4: simple size of anything other than just these turnovers for 276 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 4: Dak right to say that, that's I'm just saying, you 277 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 4: don't so to say that, that's what you talk about. 278 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 4: That for the player, that's the player that he is, 279 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 4: and I don't believe that's who he is. But this 280 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 4: year he has to turn it, turn it around, especially 281 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 4: with the defense that he has. And it's comfortable to 282 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 4: that Peyton Manning Broncos team. It's comfortable to me to 283 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 4: that Baltimore Ravens twenty thirteen team. When you just want 284 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 4: to talk about def I'm talking about defense. Where with Flacco, 285 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 4: with Flacco is all, what does he have to be? 286 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 4: Just a glorified bus driver. 287 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 2: Get it done. Put your defense out there, let them 288 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 2: handle business. Joe was fantastic the postseason. Clarify, he was 289 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 2: really fantastic post He's. 290 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 4: He's talking about Barry. Okay, that's sample size. I said. 291 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 4: Dak is not the interception guy. He got to protect 292 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 4: the ball. But he's gonna be able to be different 293 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 4: this year. Turk is the guy. Okay, he's the guy 294 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 4: who yards about it. 295 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 2: He just said it just. 296 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 5: Because that's whatever. That's what we're doing here, that's what 297 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 5: everybody's doing. I'm just not putting put why I see it. 298 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 2: Last year. 299 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 5: Last year they were greating points number one offensite. They 300 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 5: turned the football over too much and for some reason, 301 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 5: that all went on KM that all went on. 302 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 3: My boy, Kelly Moore, don't got me. I don't see 303 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 3: him get blasted on social media and networks. 304 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 2: They I mean not even mentioning him. They're out there 305 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 2: loving us. He moved on. That's why that was years. 306 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 2: That was years in the vacant man. That was last year. 307 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 4: Just I'm going to offer that the number one no, no, 308 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 4: you make a valid point because Keller Moore had what 309 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 4: the number one, number one offense in the red zone, 310 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 4: number four and points, I mean everything statistical category that 311 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 4: absolutely gets you another contract. It's stopped this key hole 312 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 4: from working, could car from working around like me? 313 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 2: I can't, Hey, Dan, let us in man. 314 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 4: So the pressures on Mike McCarthy and that to that aspect. 315 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 4: If it's the test, bro, it's the test. 316 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 2: I don't know. 317 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 4: Number one is stats, all that good stuff. We've seen 318 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 4: that leak the league with five thousand yards and we 319 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 4: looked at the team and was like that ain't it. 320 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 2: So go with the stats. It's cool. Well, you know, 321 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 2: and you're gonna see this ship. We gonna see. 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You don't want to miss it. 379 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 2: All right, Hecma Harrison appreciate that Hekma is gonna be. 380 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:49,360 Speaker 7: On the call. 381 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 2: Will suh? I will fivecorn ready? Yeah? 382 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 4: You see me in my Saxy shirt. You know Saxy Football. 383 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 4: It's my baby. He's gonna be on on v to night. 384 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:02,360 Speaker 4: But I gotta call the game tonight, so make sure 385 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 4: I support man. You know he'd be wearing that green, 386 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 4: So he'll be wearing that green. See you out there, 387 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 4: talk about flying. 388 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 2: You will forgive me, you will forgive me, You will 389 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 2: forgive me. 390 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:26,679 Speaker 4: That's all I have to ask, Hey, that's my bfl 391 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 4: give my baby, do that Jerry gonna make the call? 392 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 2: Gonna let you go like Chris ba Yes, yes, maybe 393 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 2: nick Nicky make the call? Lord please? Will not be 394 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 2: something that they just called it. If she well, draft 395 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 2: happens all the week. Well I don't know. 396 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 3: Well, draft happens on Thursday Friday. 397 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 2: They tell her to come on down and get that 398 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,959 Speaker 2: make the Yeah, hot, Would you cry as much as 399 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 2: Chris did? If I wouldn't, that would be no good. 400 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 2: You know, I want to thank God. 401 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 3: That that was one of the coolest draft moments I've 402 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 3: ever seen, when when when Chris Bond got to make 403 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 3: the call to his son. 404 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 2: I mean I still get chills. 405 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 3: Just watching that of just just that moment and then 406 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 3: just having seen having seen Deuce uh play twice in person, 407 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 3: just know, okay, this this this was a kid who 408 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 3: because of his height, you know, had been you counted 409 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 3: down and just all everything he just produced. Man, and 410 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 3: then just the way they loved him at Kansas State. 411 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 3: Just knowing that you know, this kid is gonna come 412 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 3: here and have if if provided the opportunity to do 413 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:51,479 Speaker 3: the same things, and you know, the camp to all 414 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 3: the people who were wanting to be right. 415 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 2: It was just it's a great, cool story. 416 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 3: And and by the way, we've all agreed right here 417 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:57,679 Speaker 3: on the players. 418 00:20:58,240 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 2: Deuce is on the team. 419 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:03,199 Speaker 4: I think I think Dak agrees to Dak said he 420 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 4: can't wait. I can't wait to see so, you know, 421 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 4: so we don't. He doesn't need to shine. 422 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 2: He good, good, he good. 423 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 3: So, by the way, before we get in, who needs 424 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 3: to shine tomorrow? Dak was asked by Clarence Hill to 425 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 3: start telegram. How come he didn't get on the go 426 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 3: fly with Cooks? 427 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 2: What he said? 428 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 3: He said, I needed a drink and it was too 429 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 3: close to pregame, so I didn't. I didn't have a 430 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 3: drink to going up there with him, So like I need, 431 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:31,160 Speaker 3: I need a drink to go do that. 432 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 2: So he did not fly. That's somebody called the soul plane. 433 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 2: See how that came down? He can't This is what 434 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 2: speaking of the soul plane. 435 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 4: Hey, y'all, y'all, y'all old cats bro paying attention to Kevin, 436 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,239 Speaker 4: don't get out that thing and you can run and 437 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 4: race and do all that stuff. 438 00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:58,439 Speaker 2: Get out there. 439 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 4: Slip that on the soul playing reference. Okay, I don't 440 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 4: think about how the way to get it in with 441 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 4: the old schools and. 442 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 2: That man toys at Duster, he's the TODs. How do 443 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 2: you do that? Your ham and your abductor. 444 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 4: By the way, he was raising the former l s 445 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 4: U guy, Stephen Ridley, you know, the Patriots all that stuff. No, man, 446 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:26,360 Speaker 4: don't get I don't never get a twisted man. Don't 447 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 4: worry about me. 448 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 2: I'm good trying to race. 449 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 3: Greg Gallows was trying to get folks to sign up 450 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:37,440 Speaker 3: for the church basketball game, the little three on three 451 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 3: tournamented church and and uh Clarence Hills a deacon there 452 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 3: with with Greg Gallois and and uh chilst I'm not 453 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,159 Speaker 3: gonna pull no handstrings for the Lord. 454 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 2: I agree with having no kneeds no third So who needs? 455 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 2: Who needs to shine tomorrow against the Raiders? Is Mizi 456 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 2: Smith playing tomorrow? I hope? So? Yeah, Why wouldn't he? 457 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 2: That's it. 458 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 4: Y'all been hearing me, y'all been hearing me this whole time. 459 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 4: That's the only thing I want to see. 460 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 2: Okay. 461 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 4: One, if we're saying, if we're saying that he needs 462 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 4: more reps, he needs to figure out how to use 463 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 4: his technique more than just his strength and God given ability. 464 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,199 Speaker 4: Then the best way for you to get that is 465 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 4: in live game reps against competition that is not your teammates, 466 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 4: as guys who are out there trying to make some 467 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,880 Speaker 4: money and get their spot on the roster, so you're 468 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 4: gonna get one hundred percent of what they got. I 469 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 4: want to see mis Smith make a step forward. I 470 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,640 Speaker 4: want to see it don't have to be everything's perfect. 471 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 4: I want to see that he is understanding that technique 472 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 4: is a little bit more important for him right now 473 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 4: than it was back when he was at Michigan. All Right, 474 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 4: That's all I want to see, because I really believe 475 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 4: wholeheartedly that if this defense is going to be like 476 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 4: what we spoke about in the show who was was 477 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 4: It Wolf? Who was THEO? 478 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:03,919 Speaker 2: It was Wolf? 479 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 4: If they're gonna if they're gonna be what we want 480 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 4: them to be, you gotta be able to stop the. 481 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,120 Speaker 2: Run and not the whole game. 482 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,640 Speaker 4: But we need you to make some of those plays 483 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 4: in those big time moments third and one, third and 484 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 4: third and one, right, fourth and one, you know, third, 485 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 4: second and six, and then making it third night because 486 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 4: you canna stop them in the back. Some of those 487 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 4: type of players. I ain't talking about sacks. We know 488 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 4: we got that. I want to see somebody be able 489 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 4: to get in there insure up that gap that we've 490 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,199 Speaker 4: been talking about for the last few years. Yeah, my 491 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 4: man Monzi was drafted for the situation that fourth and 492 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 4: one that you talk at third and one you're talking about. 493 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 4: We took a lot of gashes in the running game 494 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 4: from Philly and from the forty nine ers. So I 495 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:48,640 Speaker 4: really this this segment should be should be labeled, you know, Tucky. 496 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 2: Chain or wear it in the rain. You know who 497 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 2: is the authentic article and who is fake? 498 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 4: Because we're trying to figure out who's gonna who's gonna 499 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:57,439 Speaker 4: load up, who's gonna go. 500 00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 2: With us right now? 501 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,719 Speaker 4: And it's those third and fourth level guys that we 502 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,959 Speaker 4: still have question marks around. And look, I know that 503 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 4: April fourth this year when we signed Hankins, I think 504 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 4: that solidified what. 505 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,360 Speaker 2: We were looking at in the defensive line. 506 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:17,120 Speaker 4: Quinn, guys like bo Hannah that are gonna be behind Hankins. 507 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 4: That to me, it solidifies what we need in our 508 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 4: one tech to gobble up blocks and allow our linebackers 509 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 4: to run downhill. Mazie didn't look good. There's no other 510 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 4: way to put it. He didn't look good in practicing 511 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 4: one on ones the bull rush all that. That's fine. 512 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,439 Speaker 4: He showed a little bit of his immaturity with the 513 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 4: comment that he made I just like to head people. 514 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 2: I don't like. 515 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 4: All right, let's say, let's ask the young man to 516 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 4: grow up, and maybe this year is going to be 517 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 4: a learning process for him. It may be the all 518 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 4: of those things that you're asking him to do. He 519 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 4: can be that for us maybe later in the season, 520 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 4: because right now it don't look like jaylober No, no, no, 521 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 4: if he is. If he is, maybe the same rules 522 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 4: will flock. 523 00:25:56,040 --> 00:26:00,400 Speaker 2: You're giving up first rune when you lose. Heck, that's real. 524 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 4: No, you know, I see I thought I put a 525 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:08,400 Speaker 4: bow on that, bro. 526 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 2: Did it sound like I was? 527 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 4: I've lost That sounds like you're read certain the guy. 528 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 2: Maybe he's gonna be. 529 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 4: A guy who can do that for us in the future, 530 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 4: not the immedia future, but later off of like next 531 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,439 Speaker 4: year future. So let me say this, like, he's not 532 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 4: Aaron Donald yet, I don't know. 533 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 2: I don't know. And this is the thing. 534 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 4: When I start talking about a guy like Aaron Donald, 535 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 4: who is an oddity because he's an inside pass rusher. 536 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 4: All right, we're not gonna ask him to be that 537 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 4: same piece in our defense, and so. 538 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 2: Right, but what what is it? 539 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:47,679 Speaker 4: He's getting reached, he's getting misplaced, misplaced, he's getting turned. 540 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 2: Those are the things that you cannot have happen. 541 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 4: And I'm just like you, man, I'm gonna be looking 542 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 4: at number fifty eight tomorrow seeing what he does. 543 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 2: I don't know, red shirt, he ain't gonna gonna be. 544 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 5: But for my dude, I need to have a good game. 545 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 5: It's not for him to make the team. I feel 546 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 5: like he's already on the team, but to get a 547 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 5: bigger role. And that's Marquis Bell. You know, after we 548 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 5: saw or the reports out there that he's gonna go 549 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 5: down there and play a little bit of linebacker as well, 550 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 5: kind of that hybrid safety role. But if he's able 551 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 5: to go down there and dominate, or if he's able 552 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 5: to go out there and show out maybe this game 553 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:23,719 Speaker 5: and then you know, he gets a little bit more 554 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 5: reps in that first regular season game. If he's able 555 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 5: to ball out, they can carve out a nice little 556 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,199 Speaker 5: niche for him because we know the two safeties they 557 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 5: already got paid. 558 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 2: Youre talking about Wilson, you talking about what they getting paid. Curse. 559 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 2: I don't know. 560 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,160 Speaker 5: I don't know what's going on with the whole year. 561 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,880 Speaker 5: Gart What I'm saying guarantee the whole year. So we'll 562 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 5: see what happens. But if he goes out there and 563 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 5: balls out, he can carve himself a nice little role 564 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 5: on this defense and hopefully in the future he can 565 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 5: ball out as well. 566 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:48,719 Speaker 4: Who is it safety that went to play that position? 567 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 4: Move down a little bit for Mark Mark Barron. Can 568 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 4: you watch the tape on Mark Barron and say, hey, 569 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 4: he's paid off of that too. Yeah, and let's see, 570 00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 4: let's see if you can play that role because he 571 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 4: was he was effective when they moved them me because 572 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:05,679 Speaker 4: he was effective they found in these form and he 573 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 4: went out there and you know, he did what he's 574 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 4: supposed to do. So if that's the role that you 575 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,160 Speaker 4: were thinking of, you know, Bill getting down there to play, 576 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:13,879 Speaker 4: then you know, if he could be that, then that 577 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 4: success and especially the reports that you've been hearing about 578 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:22,479 Speaker 4: dan Quinn adding linebacker responsibilities to what he does and 579 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 4: he already see that he plays along the line of scrimmage. 580 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 4: But your run curse and him are kind of becoming 581 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 4: one A and one B really close and what they 582 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 4: what they do. I think the bigger question is can 583 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 4: he cover tight ends. If that's the biggest question mark 584 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 4: that then he's going to get that answer throughout the season. 585 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 4: But I want to include I got Neville Gallimore because 586 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 4: because y'all been talking about Neville Gallamore, Nevill Galamore, y'all 587 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 4: been throwing him in there. I started off talking about 588 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 4: Chauncey Golston, So I think it's the combination of those 589 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 4: two players and where the Dallas Cowboys feel like they are. 590 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 2: So that's where I was going to go. 591 00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:04,239 Speaker 3: Golston, Gallimore, Bohannah, this group these three guys, you know, 592 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 3: who makes his team? 593 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:07,719 Speaker 2: So that that's going to be very interesting. 594 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 3: I think they're going to keep Junior for Hoko uh 595 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 3: one of dan Quinn's guys that they drafted. But but 596 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 3: looking here, and that was kind of even when we 597 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 3: were in camp, just looking at r between Gallamore and Bohanna. 598 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 2: Goldston, Who's who's gonna make it? Right now? Who do 599 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 2: you who do you have leading the charge on that? 600 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 3: Honestly, man, I I I don't know I don't know. 601 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 2: I don't know. 602 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 5: I would love to see guy because I feel like 603 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 5: he flashed, like he got the juice. 604 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 2: It's just a consistency hasn't been there. 605 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 5: And it's just like man like Garrett always says, you 606 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 5: can't be a flash in the pan type of player. 607 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 5: You know that'll get you, I'll get you gone the 608 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 5: injury injury. 609 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 3: I'm leaning I think maybe Bohannah makes it if I'm 610 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 3: choosing one between the three. But he said, this is 611 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 3: they got another test. It's another test we'll see. This 612 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 3: is a testament to Will McClay and what they have 613 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 3: built here that you can take two guys that you've 614 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 3: drafted and they may not make this team. Right now, 615 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 3: by the way, take a break or second break, one 616 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 3: player who's going to be here. Some fans may not 617 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 3: like it, but I'm telling you right now, Mike McCarthy 618 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 3: basically for casts. 619 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 2: This player's gonna be here when you like it or not. 620 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 2: Do that next, right, hell of players. 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Let's keep an 668 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 3: eye out on this thing. Hey, look, I'll say this 669 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 3: for your school. I'll say this next year. The highest 670 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 3: ranked group of five you getting in the playoffs, So 671 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 3: you may want to pay your dues. So when when 672 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 3: your team. 673 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 4: Is you can jump up in the Toledo Georgia right right, 674 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 4: come on, you ain't going that game? Are you gonna 675 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 4: be the sweep Hall of Fame? 676 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 2: Have you paid your dues? That was going on working 677 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 2: over there? All right? 678 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 3: Raiders Cowboys tomorrow final preseason game. Kelton Joseph is making 679 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 3: this team, and I know he gets fans have things 680 00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 3: to say at times about his play, and I understand. 681 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 3: Have to watch training camp, I know, and he's like 682 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 3: number one giving up another touchdown. A lot of folks, 683 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 3: a lot of folks is putting up points on Number 684 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,919 Speaker 3: one out there. But he's going to be a part 685 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,320 Speaker 3: of this team. Mike McCarthy constantly talks about position flex. 686 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 3: He loves the fact that Kelvin could play inside outside, 687 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 3: playing the slot, and he is earning his keep on 688 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 3: special teams. You of all people Danny have preached and 689 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 3: talked about the importance of special teams. 690 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,840 Speaker 2: We know C. J. Goodwin is in one category alone 691 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 2: by himself. 692 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:32,840 Speaker 3: But then after that you start talking about importance of 693 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 3: special teams, and I talked about the bunter and the 694 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 3: kicker and then lost time. Kelvin Joseph has shown he 695 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 3: brings value to this team on special team. 696 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:42,759 Speaker 2: He's the second best guy. 697 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, easily when you when you're going down the roster 698 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 4: of guys like I don't really me, I don't believe 699 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,880 Speaker 4: that when you look at Kevin Joseph, even McCarthy like, 700 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:52,440 Speaker 4: he's gonna be on the squad. So then you have 701 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,719 Speaker 4: to keep his confident confidence up to say, all right, 702 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 4: if people do go down, he's on the right. He's 703 00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 4: gonna have to get in there and play and be 704 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 4: you know, service, but his main road is going to 705 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 4: be on special teams. And you got CJ. Goodwin and 706 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,439 Speaker 4: then you got kel Man Joseph, and then it goes 707 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 4: down the list for a fossil. Right, he's like, hey man, 708 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,799 Speaker 4: what what four guys do you need? The top two 709 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 4: or C. J. Goodwin and Kelvin Joseph. All right, and 710 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 4: then you got to figure out the other core guys. 711 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:21,360 Speaker 4: So I've always always been of the belief that Kelvin 712 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 4: Joseph is going to be on the roster as long 713 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 4: as he continues to show up on special teams. And 714 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 4: that's what he did, and shout out to him because 715 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,240 Speaker 4: that's that's his thing. Now he can be CJ. 716 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 2: Gooding. I'm like, Mayn, how many years did you play 717 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 2: in the league? Twelve? 718 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 4: And I was a special teams guy making a million 719 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 4: dollars a year sometimes two, right, And that's if that's 720 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 4: what it is for you, then that's what it is. 721 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 4: And I'm I'm I'm happy for the guy because that 722 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 4: means he understands what where's bread is buttered? 723 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 5: Look, I understand like you see, like Danny McCrae said, 724 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,800 Speaker 5: I mean, you got two casts, the stars of your 725 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 5: special teams, and you can tell by the position they're 726 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:56,720 Speaker 5: put in. If you're a gunner on the other side, 727 00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:58,400 Speaker 5: that means you're one of the top dogs. If you're 728 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,319 Speaker 5: a five on kickoff, it means you're the middle to 729 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,400 Speaker 5: kickoffs to kickoff grouping, and you're one of the fastest 730 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 5: guys down there. 731 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 2: You're a star on special team so he's gonna make it. 732 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:08,960 Speaker 5: When you talk about Kelvin Joseph, last year, he had 733 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 5: a lot of things going on off the field, you know, 734 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:12,719 Speaker 5: and that was his first year in the NFL, A 735 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 5: lot of stuff off the field. Can he he was 736 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 5: you know, he was rapping, He had that you know, 737 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:18,880 Speaker 5: legal troubles, all that good stuff you can kind of 738 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:20,360 Speaker 5: throw a damper on what you got going on in 739 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 5: the field. This year, we haven't heard much about him 740 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 5: off the fields, and hopefully he's focusing in on his 741 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,799 Speaker 5: job and what he needs to be doing. And like 742 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:28,920 Speaker 5: we said, he's made plays on special teams, so he 743 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 5: knows where his his his bread is being buttered. 744 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,760 Speaker 2: Now can he make the transition and get better on defense? 745 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 5: I've seen a little bit you're talking about you're talking 746 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 5: about preseason games. You've seen a little bit. He's been 747 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:39,759 Speaker 5: a little bit more sticky in coverage. He hasn't been 748 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:41,920 Speaker 5: having as many penalties as he had out there his 749 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 5: rookie year. So, hath do you think He's one of 750 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 5: those guys that maybe it takes a little bit of 751 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 5: time to get going, and hopefully he's found his footing. 752 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 4: I tell you what, you know what I love it 753 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:55,359 Speaker 4: when y'all do this, because what y'all do is y'all 754 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,399 Speaker 4: put that butter on and then when the season started, 755 00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:58,600 Speaker 4: y'all roast him again. 756 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 2: Right, that's what you do. 757 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 4: You roast him again, because then it starts coming down 758 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 4: to where you're drafted. Oh and you're just a special 759 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,399 Speaker 4: teams player. That wasn't what the vision that they had 760 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 4: in their head for Kelvin Joseph, And y'all gonna remember 761 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,520 Speaker 4: that at a certain point in the season, y'all gonna 762 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:19,279 Speaker 4: remind everybody that's him. He listen the difference between what 763 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,440 Speaker 4: I said and what Church said. I didn't say nothing 764 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 4: about seeing on off, seeing the attorney camp that he's 765 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 4: playing better on at the cornerback. 766 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,239 Speaker 2: I just say nothing. I know, I said, I know 767 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 2: specifically what his role is. 768 00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:32,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, Churt's over there giving him. We might need to 769 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 4: put him back out there. I come by what I see. 770 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,759 Speaker 4: What has to happen for Kevin Joseph to get in 771 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 4: there and play defensive back. 772 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,360 Speaker 2: What has to happen on the defense? Might got get injured? 773 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 2: How many? How many? I say, just one? He's just one. 774 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 2: He looking at he's price. He's your number six going Yeah, 775 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:53,320 Speaker 2: it's who one of them Blander or or Jay Logo. 776 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,880 Speaker 2: Now that's two they both play Nicole Man, Are you 777 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 2: sure they both? So you're talking. 778 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,960 Speaker 3: He's not playing j right, and he got Scott and 779 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,480 Speaker 3: then then it's him who Scott. 780 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, Kevin Joseph is down. 781 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 4: He might not even be getting rips out there on 782 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 4: a scout when they when they practice that for that. 783 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,920 Speaker 4: But I'm gonna say this right, so moving him inside 784 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 4: to Nickel, I think he's been better. And I'm gonna 785 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:25,399 Speaker 4: ask you, man, because I feel like a guy that 786 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,560 Speaker 4: for Kevin Joseph came from L s U and Kentucky. 787 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:29,040 Speaker 2: Uh. 788 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,160 Speaker 4: Playing man coverage a guy to get up on you 789 00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,399 Speaker 4: and want to be physical. Now they're saying that he's 790 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,799 Speaker 4: having well. John Owning and Pro Football Focus wrote an 791 00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,520 Speaker 4: article talking about him playing off coverage and how that's 792 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:41,799 Speaker 4: better suited him now that he can just drive on 793 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:43,800 Speaker 4: the ball versus trying to be more physical at the 794 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,279 Speaker 4: line of scrimmage. Is that just little technical thing that 795 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,800 Speaker 4: change has made the difference for him as a player 796 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,400 Speaker 4: and maybe made him your second string Nickel? 797 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,080 Speaker 5: I mean to me, I just think he his body 798 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,719 Speaker 5: type and his play style is better suited for a nickel. Okay, 799 00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:58,360 Speaker 5: when you're out there on the island by yourself on 800 00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,440 Speaker 5: the outside, and you got bigger guys that are usually 801 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,480 Speaker 5: gonna go against you're going against the A. J. Greens, 802 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:04,560 Speaker 5: you know, Julio Jones, big guys that we've seen can 803 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,399 Speaker 5: just win fifty fifty balls out there, and I don't 804 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,600 Speaker 5: think that suits him. And like you said, when you 805 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 5: get up in that press coverage, you gotta be a 806 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:10,759 Speaker 5: physical guy. 807 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:12,279 Speaker 2: You gotta be able to put hands on people. 808 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,520 Speaker 5: And people have been kind of washing him to the 809 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 5: side when he gets press coverage out there. But when 810 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:17,879 Speaker 5: he's in that nickel and he's off and he gets 811 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,160 Speaker 5: to see everything, I think he becomes a better defensive 812 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:21,000 Speaker 5: player in that regard. 813 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:24,360 Speaker 2: Our hair said he's strong as battery act. That's strong. 814 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:25,520 Speaker 2: So hold on. 815 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,720 Speaker 4: You said he can't press. I ain't say he couldn't. 816 00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,279 Speaker 4: Proud people saying he don't when he gets in there. 817 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,439 Speaker 4: He's been having trouble on press technique and he's better 818 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,359 Speaker 4: with off. So what happens on thirty three third two? 819 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 2: Got to get play six? 820 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,000 Speaker 5: See nickel, really don't because pressed like that because you 821 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:43,040 Speaker 5: don't want to get rubbed out. 822 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,200 Speaker 4: A lot of stacks against teams that play man and 823 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 4: man coverage. Depending on down the distance, you might you 824 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 4: might have to get in there. And I'll tell you 825 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,879 Speaker 4: what if you press and nickel and you get beat 826 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:58,520 Speaker 4: off the line, Yeah, I'm gonna play all technique and 827 00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 4: try to drive on some nigga on a scene right 828 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,440 Speaker 4: on you like you gotta be taking that is That's 829 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,600 Speaker 4: why Orlando Scandrin got paid so many times because the 830 00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,600 Speaker 4: nickel position is probably one of the hardest positions for 831 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 4: you to play because you got to know route concepts. 832 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 2: You got to understand and be able to feel those. 833 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:16,520 Speaker 4: Route concepts, and you gotta be able to press and playoff. 834 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,319 Speaker 4: And that's at five not the usual seven yards. Like 835 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,359 Speaker 4: you got to have everything to play nickel. That's why 836 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,839 Speaker 4: Durrun playing he has a special talent for being able 837 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,920 Speaker 4: to play nickel, and Jordan Lewis has a special talent 838 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:28,640 Speaker 4: for being able to play nickel. You have to you 839 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,120 Speaker 4: gotta be you have to have those special techniques and 840 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,720 Speaker 4: skills to be able to do that. And nobody's forgot 841 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:37,960 Speaker 4: about the Zay Jones game Jacksonville. It's that's still it's 842 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:39,360 Speaker 4: still tape out there. So I mean, if you just 843 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,200 Speaker 4: want to go back to the tape, it's still out there. 844 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:44,799 Speaker 4: So that time consistency in proof. It's in the water. 845 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:46,919 Speaker 4: Make a million dollars a year, Bro, a million plus. 846 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:53,439 Speaker 3: He's a special team who is one of the last dbs. 847 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:57,439 Speaker 3: It's one of your last corners that's out there. I'm 848 00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:04,439 Speaker 3: long since stop expecting him to be a corner that's 849 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,680 Speaker 3: playing significant snaps for the Cowboys because he was drafted 850 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 3: as a number two, you know, second round draft pick 851 00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:12,040 Speaker 3: that both sailed for me. 852 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,680 Speaker 2: This guy's a special teamer who they like. 853 00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:20,719 Speaker 3: He's he's there as a corner and you know, if 854 00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:22,839 Speaker 3: they got to put him in, they got to put 855 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,799 Speaker 3: him in. But they have went out and got other 856 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,360 Speaker 3: players like a Iran Bland who they took in the 857 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,439 Speaker 3: fifth round, who led the team and picked last year. 858 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,319 Speaker 2: These guys have surpassed him, but he's still on the team. 859 00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,960 Speaker 3: They're not cutting a guy, right, They're not cutting a 860 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:37,719 Speaker 3: guy who they spit that kind of hot. 861 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,480 Speaker 2: When's the last time they cut a dude they took. 862 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,080 Speaker 3: In the second round three years in and done it forever. 863 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:46,400 Speaker 3: So he's gonna be here. He's found a role, be 864 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,680 Speaker 3: clear special team's difference maker. When you say he's a 865 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,160 Speaker 3: difference maker one not just not just the guy. 866 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:57,480 Speaker 2: So so he's there. I live with it for this year, 867 00:41:58,320 --> 00:41:58,919 Speaker 2: for this year. 868 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:00,839 Speaker 3: Next year, we'll see if he has to get out 869 00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,320 Speaker 3: there and play I saw, I saw camp. 870 00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:04,440 Speaker 2: It could be it could be out. 871 00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:08,320 Speaker 4: But that room is crowded, don't That room is crowded, 872 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:09,080 Speaker 4: extremely crowded. 873 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:13,239 Speaker 3: And if he you know, tomorrow, tomorrow, if he makes 874 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:14,920 Speaker 3: a couple of plays, make it, make people feel good, 875 00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:16,080 Speaker 3: make me make you feel good. 876 00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:18,880 Speaker 5: Speaking of the corners, what they're gonna do with the 877 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:25,200 Speaker 5: nickel position right now? Like like, so are they gonna 878 00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:25,840 Speaker 5: be rotating? 879 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:29,160 Speaker 2: Is it? Or somebody specific? Is Jay Lou even healthy? 880 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,400 Speaker 2: That's is he? He says he's He says he's good. 881 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:36,040 Speaker 3: So so you know this is this is what and 882 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:37,920 Speaker 3: Dan Quinny trust That's how I. 883 00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:39,439 Speaker 5: Look at that one, because he got a nice price 884 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:43,040 Speaker 5: tag on for especially if he's not gonna start What 885 00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:44,319 Speaker 5: do you mean in terms of like you think he 886 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,960 Speaker 5: mean I be here. I mean, it's just he's gonna 887 00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:49,960 Speaker 5: be here because I mean he's gonna because you need corners. 888 00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:51,719 Speaker 5: But it's one of the last time you've seen you know, 889 00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,480 Speaker 5: a five minute was it five six million dollars? 890 00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,480 Speaker 2: Back up, Nickel, you haven't. 891 00:42:56,360 --> 00:43:00,600 Speaker 3: He's gonna be here. And it's seventeen. And at seventeen season, 892 00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:05,600 Speaker 3: where we've seen guys get hurt as much as we 893 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:10,239 Speaker 3: like Gilmore were the top four oldest starting corners in 894 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,800 Speaker 3: the game. I mean, you you you gotta have death. 895 00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:16,520 Speaker 3: You needed the death last year, so I don't see 896 00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:18,920 Speaker 3: I mean, all right, you cut this guy. Somebody else 897 00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,080 Speaker 3: gonna pick him up, paid price tag. I mean, they're 898 00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:21,759 Speaker 3: gonna do it in. 899 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:23,919 Speaker 2: This league, oh man. 900 00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,000 Speaker 3: And if you think you had the kind of defense 901 00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:29,400 Speaker 3: you want, you were including him in this Jordan Lewis 902 00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,080 Speaker 3: is in the conversation about you trying to have a 903 00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:32,879 Speaker 3: good I mean, I'm. 904 00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:34,239 Speaker 2: Sorry, we walked about well, we got too many gus, 905 00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:35,800 Speaker 2: I have too much fit, we got too much pitchy, 906 00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:39,279 Speaker 2: we got too many corners. But you hear your but 907 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:40,319 Speaker 2: you're paying that man. 908 00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:42,919 Speaker 5: Though I could see he was making why Anthony Brown 909 00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:44,960 Speaker 5: last year he wasn't making six Anthony Bryan. 910 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:45,920 Speaker 2: Wouldn't that what happened? 911 00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:49,640 Speaker 3: And the last year so you said that, okay, so 912 00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,200 Speaker 3: Zay Joe, we saw Jay Jones do this thing like that. 913 00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,160 Speaker 5: That's what so all masking. I'm not saying that you 914 00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:56,680 Speaker 5: get rid of the guy. All I'm saying is you 915 00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:58,839 Speaker 5: can paying a little guy a lot of ducats to 916 00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:02,080 Speaker 5: be at to be a backup. Okay, that's that's good. 917 00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:03,160 Speaker 5: That's good, that's good business. 918 00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:06,560 Speaker 2: That's what they paying it all five million back up? 919 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:11,200 Speaker 2: That about is he on the final year? Is final? 920 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:11,320 Speaker 7: You? 921 00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,120 Speaker 2: Yeah? Because three years? Do you think he gets set out? 922 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:16,440 Speaker 2: You know? You know, my man, Adam. 923 00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying that, that's what I'm thinking of. 924 00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,040 Speaker 5: I'm like, do you talk to him saying you might 925 00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:23,400 Speaker 5: need to take a haircut? 926 00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,560 Speaker 2: Option? You got to getting the options because I mean, 927 00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,200 Speaker 2: it's that's I'm just saying. If you especially if you're 928 00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,680 Speaker 2: not starting, you got five how long they give you, 929 00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:39,080 Speaker 2: d they give you? Came out, you walk room there, 930 00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:43,040 Speaker 2: you want to call you got me? I don't know, 931 00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:44,560 Speaker 2: that's just trying to take people money. 932 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:44,920 Speaker 3: I don't know. 933 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,000 Speaker 2: I'm just saying. I'm I'm talking about it as a whole. 934 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:48,800 Speaker 2: We were talking about this position. The nickel position is 935 00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:49,640 Speaker 2: value position. 936 00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,239 Speaker 5: You got a guy that's a heck of a lot cheaper, 937 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,000 Speaker 5: that's making plays and playing right. 938 00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,200 Speaker 2: Why can't we have both? Because what is he going 939 00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,760 Speaker 2: to say, Jerry Money, why are you trying to say 940 00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:02,839 Speaker 2: saying that your started what you going through with Jay? 941 00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,920 Speaker 4: Like? What? No? I mean, it's a serious decision to make, 942 00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,000 Speaker 4: and I think teams do it all the time. They 943 00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,560 Speaker 4: go with the youth and the less expensive guy, especially 944 00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:13,279 Speaker 4: if they're doing the same thing. I mean, we're not 945 00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:16,759 Speaker 4: even talking about Eric Scott, your draft pick that if 946 00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:18,920 Speaker 4: he's doing the same thing that Kelvin Joseph can do 947 00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,400 Speaker 4: on special teams or we don't have proof of that. 948 00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:23,359 Speaker 4: We don't know if he can. But does that does 949 00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:24,920 Speaker 4: that mean anything to you? 950 00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:25,680 Speaker 2: Uh Na? 951 00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,279 Speaker 4: Sean Wright, we had he hadn't played a couple of 952 00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:31,040 Speaker 4: games because I believe ankle injury or whatever he's dealing with. 953 00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:33,000 Speaker 4: But there's some decisions that you have to make. There 954 00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,879 Speaker 4: is Israel Mukuomo. He's a flex guy that goes from 955 00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,680 Speaker 4: safety and corner as well. There's there's still a lot 956 00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:40,919 Speaker 4: of decisions to be made. And I'm with you too 957 00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,520 Speaker 4: on this. You can't have enough of them. You're gonna 958 00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:45,760 Speaker 4: need them, You're gonna use them. But a five million 959 00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,719 Speaker 4: dollar backup hey and He's a good don't get me wrong, 960 00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:49,719 Speaker 4: like if you were losing a ball. 961 00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:51,239 Speaker 5: When we first saw him out there, he was a 962 00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,120 Speaker 5: ball guy, all over the force and fumbles doing all 963 00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:53,840 Speaker 5: our gud stuff. 964 00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:55,080 Speaker 2: But I'm just saying, if. 965 00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:59,920 Speaker 5: You can't beat out dun Bland, I mean, it's a conversation. 966 00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:04,280 Speaker 3: So when you say beat out, it's not as though 967 00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,080 Speaker 3: they were both out here training camp and we saw 968 00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:07,720 Speaker 3: them go ahead. 969 00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:12,360 Speaker 2: You know, Okay, it was hurt. You've got four corners 970 00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,359 Speaker 2: that you can feel real good about. This is true. 971 00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,120 Speaker 2: I'm not about to sit up here and try and 972 00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:23,120 Speaker 2: cut salary on. I'm gonna need. I'm goad. History shows 973 00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,719 Speaker 2: you you're gonna need these guys. I'm not messing with it. 974 00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,080 Speaker 3: If I think if I think I have the team 975 00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:30,560 Speaker 3: that I that I think I do, and I think 976 00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,200 Speaker 3: that you could you know, they're talking like they can 977 00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,000 Speaker 3: go to Las Vegas. 978 00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,839 Speaker 2: I'm not touching it. So what Okay? So all right, dude, 979 00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:38,520 Speaker 2: you got over them. 980 00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:40,640 Speaker 3: Okay, fine, you jered you You're gonna be okay, do 981 00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:44,799 Speaker 3: it and go another sponsor being you know, official the 982 00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:49,680 Speaker 3: official sock sponsor, official wrench organization and make. 983 00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,440 Speaker 2: Up for that new he's on the building fund for 984 00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:54,600 Speaker 2: your church. Get go, get your church. 985 00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,920 Speaker 4: Don't worry about what you're talking about. 986 00:46:57,920 --> 00:46:58,439 Speaker 2: Put that money. 987 00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:04,399 Speaker 4: Come on, why are you trying to save Jerry money? 988 00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:13,719 Speaker 2: You got it? Wow, I'm okay. So Monday, do you 989 00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:15,799 Speaker 2: expect to see him here? Yeah? 990 00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,120 Speaker 5: I mean, because there's been no talks about it, know nothing. 991 00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:19,799 Speaker 5: I expect him to be here and his price tag 992 00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:20,759 Speaker 5: will probably be the same. 993 00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:24,400 Speaker 2: It's just that's that's all I say. Healthy the hefty stuff. 994 00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:24,520 Speaker 4: Dad for that. 995 00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:29,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I expect him at his price. Yes, expect you 996 00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:32,120 Speaker 2: to be here this price. I do. There's no conversation 997 00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:32,560 Speaker 2: about it. 998 00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:36,640 Speaker 4: So if he's healthy right now, like he says he isn't, 999 00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:38,719 Speaker 4: I expect him to be here at his price. If 1000 00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,040 Speaker 4: he wasn't healthy then then maybe then maybe you had 1001 00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:43,759 Speaker 4: that conversation. But if he's healthy now, I. 1002 00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:45,520 Speaker 3: Think in the show on this nugget, I did ask 1003 00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:49,640 Speaker 3: Mike McCarthy about ric O'Donell in the in the Punk 1004 00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:52,440 Speaker 3: getting blocked in. He said, you know, three previous ones 1005 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:53,600 Speaker 3: before he had no issues. 1006 00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:54,319 Speaker 2: He's normally good. 1007 00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,319 Speaker 3: He said, he just let him go inside, and you 1008 00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:59,000 Speaker 3: know you can't let let the guy slide inside and 1009 00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,279 Speaker 3: he said, you know, learning moment for him. 1010 00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:02,719 Speaker 2: He'll get better better from it. 1011 00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:06,840 Speaker 3: So so Mike, Mike, Mike felt like it was a 1012 00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:08,880 Speaker 3: brain fart and then he would be okay. 1013 00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:11,800 Speaker 4: So that was probably good that he saw it because 1014 00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:14,839 Speaker 4: he knows now, he knows, knows one thing to tell 1015 00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:16,640 Speaker 4: you about it in the meeting room, another thing for 1016 00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:17,279 Speaker 4: you to get out there. 1017 00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:20,440 Speaker 2: And it happened to you. So there you go, all right? 1018 00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:21,960 Speaker 2: He how good weekend man. 1019 00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:25,120 Speaker 3: I will look forward to seeing the fifty final fifty 1020 00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:29,440 Speaker 3: three Sunday when they when they unvailable. Danny Craye appreciate you, 1021 00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:30,520 Speaker 3: Barry Church on tape. 1022 00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:33,879 Speaker 2: Folks, money and need to be had. 1023 00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:40,920 Speaker 3: Salary, salary cat Barry cat Man, cat man, Very Church. 1024 00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:50,920 Speaker 2: In front office pretty soon. Yeah, I don't talk to 1025 00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:51,520 Speaker 2: you next week. 1026 00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,719 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 1027 00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:57,680 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 1028 00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:21,000 Speaker 4: H