1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. 3 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: Our number three final hour of the week fourteen hours 4 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: up Here comes our number fifteen. Encourage all of you 5 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: as we roll into the final weekend before Halloween. I 6 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 1: went to a high school football game last night. I 7 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:24,119 Speaker 1: was driving home, Buck, and I was talking to my kids. 8 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: I can't believe, and I'm starting to sound like an 9 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: old man that Halloween is already here. 10 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 2: But once you hit. 11 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:34,840 Speaker 1: Halloween, then boom you're on into Thanksgiving. It's early this year, 12 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:38,919 Speaker 1: it's Christmas, it's New Year's my point here. Go download 13 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 1: the podcast, Go get the iHeartRadio app. You're gonna be 14 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: on the road. You're gonna be running around a lot 15 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: with friends and family. You may miss part of the show. 16 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:48,520 Speaker 1: You can take it with you wherever you go. Maybe 17 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: you're gonna be on the road for a long trip. 18 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: A lot of long drives coming up for the holiday season. 19 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: Go ahead and get hooked up early. You can starch 20 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: out my name Clay Travis buck Sexton. You can also 21 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: go the fabulous work that's being done by Tutor Dixon 22 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 1: and by Carol Markowitz. You are going to love their 23 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: work as well. It's unique, it's original. It's in the 24 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 1: Clay and Buck podcast network. Okay, Buck, We've talked a 25 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 1: lot about Biden's hypocrisy on Charlottesville all throughout this week. 26 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: Basically since October seventh has happened. We've seen an increasing 27 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 1: number of people on the left who are stridently anti Israel, 28 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 1: and we talked about that at the open of the 29 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,759 Speaker 1: show today. The challenge that is out there for Joe 30 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,839 Speaker 1: Biden in terms of the far left in his community, 31 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: and how there's a big article about it in the 32 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: Times about how they're now rejecting Joe Biden and the 33 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: pro Israel policies of many traditional i'll say Democrats. But 34 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: there's another story about Charlottesville that I think we need 35 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: to talk about and deserves a decent amount of attention 36 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: because of the scary precedent that is being set here. 37 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:06,919 Speaker 1: So I am, admittedly Buck a huge Civil War history nerd. 38 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: I've said on this show before I went in high 39 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 1: school to Civil War sleepaway camp at Gettysburg College. I 40 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 1: believe it's called the Civil War Institute. They study different 41 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 1: aspects of the Civil War during the summer, bring in 42 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: all these great speakers who've written books about the Civil War. 43 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 1: If you are a Civil War nerd like I have 44 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 1: been for much of my life, I basically live almost 45 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: on the battlefield of Franklin in Tennessee. For those of 46 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: you who are familiar with Hood's campaign in eighteen sixty four, 47 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: Again this is super nerding out. So I pay a 48 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:47,519 Speaker 1: lot of attention to the way that we talk about 49 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: the Civil War and what is and is not permissible 50 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 1: to even discuss surrounding the Civil War, much less memorialized. 51 00:02:56,680 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: So in Charlottesville, there was a big iconic statue that 52 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: was I think buck, a historical piece of art that 53 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: was of Robert E. 54 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 2: Lee. 55 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: That was one of the foundational elements of the Charlottesville protest. 56 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: Should that statue stay or go in the wake of 57 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: the George Floyd Blm protest, and that was really the 58 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: full crim upon which everything Charlottesville's fun. And my position 59 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: on all of this has been add more if you 60 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 1: don't like a statue, than tearing down a statue or 61 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: tearing down a memorial, to me is exactly the wrong 62 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: thing to do. It's what the Taliban does, It's what 63 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: the the isis infidels would have done. When you don't 64 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: like something and you tear it down and you cease 65 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: to allow it to exist, you are sending a message 66 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: about what you believe is acceptable in terms of historical, 67 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: in my opinion, discourse. So this video went viral yesterday. 68 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 2: Buck. 69 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: Not only did they tear down this statue, which is 70 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: a monument in many ways to the art creation of 71 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: the person who sculpted it, but they also then videoed 72 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: it being thrown into a furnace and completely obliterated. The 73 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: fact they took down the statue I think was wrong. 74 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: The fact that they then melted the statue is I 75 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:22,679 Speaker 1: think doubly wrong. The fact that they videoed it Buck 76 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: being melted is I think triply wrong, and was designed 77 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 1: to send a message about what is and what is 78 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: not acceptable to even discuss an American society today. 79 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:39,239 Speaker 3: This was a major project. This group, Swords into Plowshares 80 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 3: it's called, had been fighting to do this. There were 81 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 3: numerous court you know, court battles, lawsuits over swords into plowshares, 82 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 3: and they had been planning to do this for a 83 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 3: long time. And what you can see is that there 84 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 3: is a a gleefulness in the because they have this 85 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 3: video and you can see still frames of it, a 86 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 3: gleefulness and really the dissection and desecration of this statue, 87 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 3: like they cut off the head and show you the 88 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 3: severed head of the statue of Robert E. 89 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 2: Lee before they melt. 90 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 3: It down into just sort of bronze goo. Yes, you 91 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 3: know what we've generally been told. And I'm reminded of 92 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 3: the more recent controversy in New York City where they 93 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 3: have a statue of Teddy Roosevelt that was in front 94 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 3: of the Museum of Natural History. 95 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 1: Which is, by the way, an iconic statue that they 96 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: turned what was the movie they made Night at the 97 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: Museum or whatever, where like Teddy Roosevelt all everything kind 98 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 1: of comes to life and everything else, Like this is 99 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: a very well known statue, regardless of what you think 100 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: of its auspices. 101 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 3: And it's gone and and this is this is another 102 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 3: moment where you realize that the iconoclastic left here. When 103 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 3: it comes to historical artwork or pieces of history that 104 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 3: they find offensive, it always starts with a discussion of, well, 105 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 3: maybe we can move it somewhere else. 106 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 1: It belongs in a museum, is one of the things 107 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: that they say at the start. 108 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 3: That's what I'm I mean, that's what I'm going for, right, 109 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 3: Like maybe we could just display it differently, so it's 110 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 3: not in a public park, it's in a museum, and 111 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 3: in a museum you can have the context. But the 112 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 3: truth is they want to do what they did here, 113 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 3: which is the ritualized melting down and erasure of this 114 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 3: piece of art because they don't, you know, because they 115 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 3: despise or they they find it offensive that Robert E. 116 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 3: Lee would have a statue anywhere because of his role 117 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 3: as the primary general in the in the Confederacy. And 118 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 3: this is where I think there's a lot of things 119 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 3: to discuss just about this clay. Although it shows people 120 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 3: what the real end goal is and what they want 121 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 3: to do, I don't understand how if this is now 122 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 3: the new normal, or if this is going to be 123 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 3: the direction of the country, what happens to the found fathers? 124 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 3: I mean you really have to ask that question, like 125 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 3: what happens the statues of the founders, many of whom 126 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 3: were slave holders. 127 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 2: No, I mean, this doesn't end. 128 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: And this is one of the things that Trump got 129 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: one hundred percent right, even though his his statements surrounding 130 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: Charlottesville were horribly mischaracterized, and and and again. 131 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 2: Biden, they knew, right, Yeah. 132 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: And Biden cited those lies as his justification for why 133 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: he needed to run for president. So to your point, 134 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: you're talking about New York City Theodore Roosevelt. Didn't they 135 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: just take Thomas Jefferson out of the New York City 136 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: statuary where the municipal council or somebody like that. 137 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 3: The council, Yeah, there's a statue of Jefferson. 138 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 2: Yep. And they said this is unacceptable. 139 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: Now, and at some point, and you guys are going 140 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: to some of you are going to think I'm crazy. 141 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 2: Others of you are going to say, you know what, No, 142 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 2: he's a hundred percent right. 143 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: At some point there will be again a rising up 144 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: and a demand, Hey, we got to tear down the 145 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: Washington Monument. 146 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 2: He owned slaves. 147 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: We have to destroy the Jefferson memorial. He owned slaves too. 148 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: And let me I write about this in the book 149 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: because I spend a lot of time thinking about this 150 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: as the history nerd, as someone who really legitimately likes 151 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: to geek out reading about the Civil War, because I 152 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: think it is so integral to understanding America is to 153 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: understand what actually happened in the Civil War and who 154 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: the individuals involved were on both north and south. And look, 155 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: I've even done the research buck My family is from 156 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 1: obviously Tennessee and Kentucky, which by and large are states 157 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 1: that would have a lot of soldiers who fought on 158 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 1: both sides. Kentucky in particular, I've got Union and Confederate 159 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: soldiers in my family history. 160 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 2: So I feel like. 161 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 1: I can, you know, kind of look at it from 162 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:50,439 Speaker 1: both perspectives, because Kentucky was a border state in particular 163 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: where much of my Travis family is from, and people 164 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 1: from that family fought on both sides, north and south, 165 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:01,079 Speaker 1: depending on oftentimes what city they were in, what county 166 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: they were in. I mean, the line was very tenuous 167 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 1: in so many parts of the country about which side 168 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: you faught on. And by the way, people don't understand 169 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 1: this day because people have, as we've talked about on 170 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: this show, almost no historical literacy. But ninety nine point 171 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: nine percent of people fought for their state. So it's 172 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: not as if people were making like if you lived 173 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:24,479 Speaker 1: in you know, southern Mississippi, you weren't sitting around debating 174 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: what decision you were going to make. You went with 175 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: your state, and if you grew up in northern Minnesota, 176 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: you went with the state of Minnesota. It was actually 177 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: considered to be a stain on your soul in that 178 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 1: era if you turned your back on your state, which 179 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: was a lot more like your country than it was 180 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: anything else, because a lot of people never left the 181 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 1: state they were born in in those areas. 182 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 3: The formation of our union was by states that voluntarily 183 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 3: voluntarily became the. 184 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 2: United States of America. 185 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 3: And of course the basis for the country was the 186 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 3: separation or in a sense, the secession from Great Britain 187 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 3: and King George because of tyranny. Right, So there was 188 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 3: a there's a different historical context and certainly a different 189 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 3: historical thinking. That's not to say that slavery wasn't obviously 190 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 3: front and center in the in the debate about all 191 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 3: this stuff, but there were people who fought. I mean, 192 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 3: I think, what's the stackle. I think it's three percent 193 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 3: of Southerners owe ninety seven percent of the of the slaves. 194 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's right. 195 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: I mean about one in fifty Confederate soldiers actually owned slaves. 196 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: I mean, as a way to like two percent, basically. 197 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 3: And I guess there's there's this question of what is 198 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 3: now acceptable depiction of anybody who had any part of 199 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 3: the Confederacy. And the answer is, right now, based on 200 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 3: the on the trends and the way that the left 201 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 3: and political correctness are going in Democrat Party and some 202 00:10:56,679 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 3: Republicans too, is uh, it does not. It really is 203 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 3: to be treated the same way that Nazi memorabilia is. 204 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 3: That's effectively the standard. And again I sit here and 205 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 3: I say, I don't know where this ends, and I 206 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 3: don't think. Well, rather, I think I know where they 207 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 3: want to take it. I know that it doesn't end 208 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 3: with the Confederacy. 209 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 2: That's right. 210 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: And one of the things, you know, I mentioned that 211 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,319 Speaker 1: I live in Franklin, Tennessee, and I wrote about this 212 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:24,559 Speaker 1: in American Playbook because I spent a lot of time 213 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 1: thinking about this in the wake of all of this 214 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:31,199 Speaker 1: craziness to tear down monuments and statues and everything else. 215 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 1: They added buck So we have in downtown Franklin. It's 216 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: a beautiful downtown, just for twenty miles south of Nashville 217 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: or so. For people who don't understand the geography, there 218 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 1: is a Confederate memorial statue, which is not uncommon in 219 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 1: many different southern small towns. They have a variety of 220 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: the monuments and memorials, and one of them is to 221 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 1: and I mentioned we actually had a battle here, but 222 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: they have a Confederate soldier standing in the town square 223 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:01,719 Speaker 1: and there were controversies about that. It's been since there 224 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: since eighteen ninety. I think, so, I mean this is 225 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: a this is a relic, I would say, historical object. 226 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 1: At this point, they added a big statue buck of 227 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: a to honor black soldiers who were freed and fought 228 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 1: for the North. So I just and it's right on 229 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: the square as well. And I think that was uniquely 230 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 1: intelligent because what really you're arguing when you tear down 231 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: things is that there isn't there isn't an opportunity for 232 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: greater historical context. And my argument is someone who majored 233 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:42,319 Speaker 1: in history, is I would always want more history instead 234 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 1: of less. Instead of arguing about what can exist, why 235 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: don't we create more? And so to me, when you're saying, oh, 236 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: we've got to tear down this, I would much rather 237 00:12:54,400 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 1: create a world where we're building more historical representation and 238 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: also where the world in the country, and certainly kids 239 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: in this country are more historically literate. I mean, we 240 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: have I think, Buck, one of the biggest issues we 241 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:14,319 Speaker 1: have is we have created goldfish generations where they can 242 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 1: only recognize and remember things that happen in a very 243 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:20,439 Speaker 1: short period of time, and as a result, you respond 244 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: emotionally to everything and you lack the appropriate context to 245 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: consider it. And one of the things that's frustrating to 246 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:29,079 Speaker 1: me about history right now, how often do you see 247 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: those knuckleheads on MSNBC talking about We've talked about this, Buck, Hey, 248 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: if Trump wins this election, American democracy is over and 249 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: they just totally forget everything that's happened before. So I 250 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: think this is the wrong precedent to be seen. 251 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 3: History gives you an incredible context for understanding how durable 252 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:51,439 Speaker 3: this country has actually been, but that doesn't get viewers 253 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:55,439 Speaker 3: and clicks ONMSNBC. Trump ending democracy is a much better 254 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:57,719 Speaker 3: business play for them. 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You know, 289 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 4: back on nine to eleven, they wouldn't let us at 290 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 4: ABC News wear a flag pin. I always thought that 291 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 4: was wrong. I'm an American. I'm worried about the American hostages. 292 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 4: I'm worried about our interests. That's one aspect of why 293 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 4: I care. 294 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 3: I gotta say I had never speaking about symbols and 295 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 3: history and context. 296 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 2: I had never heard. 297 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 3: Before that at ABC News after nine to eleven they 298 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 3: didn't allow anchors to wear That's from Chris Cuomo, who's 299 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 3: at I guess what News Nation now right? 300 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 2: That actually seems somewhat reasonable there. 301 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 3: Now, Oh oh yeah, and look, CNN is a corrupting 302 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 3: influence on anyone's mind, and soul I can say that, 303 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 3: I mean, if you stay there long enough. But that's 304 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 3: such an interesting rule to me because Clay, what it 305 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 3: shows is that ABC News at that time two thousand 306 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 3: and one thought that somehow their journalists stood apart from 307 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 3: their americanness. Yeah, you can be an American journalist who's 308 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 3: not really American. You're a journalist first, which goes really 309 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 3: to the you know, some of the absurd left wing 310 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 3: thinking that pervades our media. 311 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess maybe their argument at that time, Buck 312 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 1: was that the American lapel pin was extremely political. 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Buck. 345 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 1: I've been saying for some time that you look at 346 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: the probability, you look at the analytics, somebody out there 347 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: in the Democrat Party who sees how insanely unpopular Joe 348 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 1: Biden is would make the decision to enter the race 349 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: and actually challenge him. And I know Marianne Williamson's out there. 350 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:50,439 Speaker 2: Robert F. 351 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:52,439 Speaker 1: Kennedy Junior has bailed and he's now going to be 352 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: running as a third party candidate. But I thought we 353 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 1: would get someone who would step forward and then the 354 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: dam would break and there'd be several other people come 355 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 1: and you know, this is not who I was anticipating. 356 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 2: I don't know this guy at all. 357 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 1: We talked about how most people are not familiar with 358 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: the new Speaker of the House. I would imagine even 359 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 1: fewer of our audience knows who Dean Phillips is. He's 360 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: a Democrat from Minnesota and he's in the House, and 361 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: he has announced that he is challenging President Biden in 362 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 1: the primary. Here is that announcement. 363 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 2: Listen, are you running for president? I am? I have to. 364 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 5: I think President Biden has done a spectacular job for 365 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 5: our country. But it's not about the past. This is 366 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 5: an election about the future. I will not sit still. 367 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 5: I will not be quiet in the face of numbers 368 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 5: that are so clearly saying that we're going to be 369 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 5: facing an emergency next November. 370 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 1: Buck This is not going to rattle the Biden team 371 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 1: to their core. It is a sitting Republican House member 372 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 1: that almost no one knows who is challenging him. 373 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 2: Is this it in your mind? 374 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: Is this the only actual challenge Joe Biden's going to 375 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 1: get in the primary from a sitting Democrat office holder. 376 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 3: I wouldn't even view this as a as a real challenge. 377 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:12,719 Speaker 3: This is a recognition that there is enough space in 378 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:17,959 Speaker 3: the news cycle for someone to insert themselves and create 379 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 3: greater name recognition. Because, as we've been discussing all along, 380 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 3: there is an absolute certainty that you're going to have 381 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 3: an open field in twenty twenty eight, meaning even if 382 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 3: Donald Trump wins, Joe Biden will not be running for 383 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 3: president in four years, you know after he will not 384 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 3: be running in twenty twenty eight, So you'll have an 385 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:42,959 Speaker 3: open field. And now, all of a sudden, Minnesota Congressman 386 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 3: Dean Phillips is a name that slightly. 387 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 2: More people will have heard. 388 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 3: I think that, you know, he's recognizing a few things. 389 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 3: One is the week the week numbers that Biden has, 390 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 3: and as I keep saying, I want to feel really 391 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:00,640 Speaker 3: good about those week numbers, but they haven't done all 392 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 3: the things they're going to do to try to swing 393 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 3: them in Biden's favor, and that that apparatus is considerable, 394 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 3: but the numbers are certainly weak. Biden is definitely too old. 395 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:13,719 Speaker 3: There's also a an age battle that's playing out, not 396 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:15,919 Speaker 3: just let's be honest on the Democrat side, but on 397 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:21,120 Speaker 3: the Republican side of political leadership as well. We had Congress, 398 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 3: I mean Senator Scott on and he said straight up, 399 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 3: he challenged Mitch McConnell. 400 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 2: And people think Mitch McConnell's too old. 401 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 3: And you know, I do think that enough people have 402 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 3: seen that letting these politicians just sort of age age 403 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 3: out of office means that you're gonna have Feinstein situations 404 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 3: where people are truly not of sound mind but casting 405 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 3: votes that affect the American people anyway. And that's wrong. 406 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 3: I mean, it's wrong, it's unethical. So the age issue 407 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 3: is something else that he's capitalizing on here because he's right, 408 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 3: because Joe Biden is too old. And you know, I 409 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 3: think that they're a lot of people that will make 410 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:05,120 Speaker 3: an exception for Trump because of his vitality, vigor, and focus. 411 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:09,120 Speaker 3: But as a general matter, age wise, I think he's 412 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,640 Speaker 3: too old to be president as well. For him will 413 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 3: make an exemption or an exception. But you know, you 414 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 3: don't want people who are eighty running the country. Here's 415 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 3: a crazy stat on that, Buck, I was reading this morning. 416 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 3: George W. 417 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,880 Speaker 1: Bush is throwing out the opening pitch for Game one 418 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:26,719 Speaker 1: of the World Series. He used to be a partial 419 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 1: owner of the Texas Rangers. People out there Texas Rangers 420 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: playing the Arizona Diamondbacks. 421 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:31,880 Speaker 2: George W. 422 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 1: Bush is younger than Trump and Biden. Bill Clinton, I believe, 423 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 1: is younger than Trump and Biden. I mean, when you 424 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 1: really think about how long ago, it feels like Bill 425 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: Clinton and George W. Bush were presidents of the United 426 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:55,120 Speaker 1: States and they're both still younger. That's pretty wild. But Buck, 427 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,360 Speaker 1: what I was expecting. 428 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 2: Here is just some game theory. 429 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: You're right in twenty twenty eight, and you can grab 430 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 1: this prediction. I think there will be twenty plus Republicans 431 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 1: and twenty plus Democrats all running for president of the 432 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 1: United States. Because there's not going to be an incumbent 433 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: no matter what happens, and based on the way things 434 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,919 Speaker 1: are looking right now, and that means it'll be an 435 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: absolute free for all. Everybody's going to throw their hat 436 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: in and say why not. But the probability of you 437 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: winning when there are twenty contenders is way lower than 438 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 1: the probability is of you winning if it's you versus Biden, 439 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: or if it's you versus Biden and some other little 440 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: known congress person. That's why I'm surprised that at JB. 441 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 1: Pritzker or Gretchen Witmer or Gavin Newsom Pritzker in particular, 442 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 1: Buck he's a billionaire, he could fund his entire campaign. 443 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 1: I'm surprised he doesn't need to raise money from all 444 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 1: the rich people. I'm surprised that, from a probabilistic perspective, 445 00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 1: as weak as Biden is, somebody didn't say now is 446 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 1: the time to go. 447 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 3: It's I mean, I'll go back to what my assessment 448 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 3: has been here all along for over a year, which 449 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 3: is that the Democrat Party has a much more rigid 450 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:17,639 Speaker 3: and strictly enforced hierarchy internally when it comes to things 451 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 3: like this than we do on the right. You know, 452 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 3: people on the right like to get into who's the 453 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:28,199 Speaker 3: who's the rhino fights. Democrats want power, and the power 454 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,679 Speaker 3: of incumbency is I just think so much. It's so 455 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 3: it's so potent that they haven't been willing to really 456 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 3: get behind anybody who would challenge Biden in a meaningful way. 457 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,120 Speaker 2: But a couple of fun things about this guy. 458 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 3: Now I'm learning about this guy, Phillips, Steve Phillips. You 459 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 3: know that he's the heir to a Minnesota liquor fortune. 460 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 3: But also, why did drink get in Minnesota? Those winters 461 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,159 Speaker 3: are long, so that's probably a good business to be in. 462 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:56,640 Speaker 3: The grandson of Abigail Van Buren, the late advice columnist 463 00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 3: known as Dear Abbey, so he's related into the deer 464 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 3: as they. 465 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 1: Still run Dear Abbey Buck. Again, this is me being 466 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:10,640 Speaker 1: an old man newspaper reader. Deer Abby's archive columns are 467 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:14,880 Speaker 1: still regularly featured in newspapers all over the country. I think, 468 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 1: I hope, I'm well. I don't want her to be dead, 469 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 1: but I think she's been dead for some time it 470 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: said late calumnists. So yes, I don't think I know 471 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 1: that she wasn't on time. I don't want to prematurely 472 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,400 Speaker 1: say that someone's dead, but I think she's been dead 473 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,880 Speaker 1: for like ten or fifteen years, and they still run 474 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 1: her columns because she basically answered every possible question that 475 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: could exist under the sun, and a lot of them 476 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 1: retain their their relevancy even fifteen or twenty years later, 477 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: Dean Phillips, and by that we should mention this, maybe 478 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,880 Speaker 1: we should get somebody on from New Hampshire. The New 479 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: Hampshire Democrat primary has turned into a mess. I don't 480 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 1: believe Joe Biden's name is going to be on it. 481 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,399 Speaker 1: Have you paid attention to some of this mess, like 482 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 1: because he wants South Carolina front trying to change the order, 483 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: but New hamp I'm sure saying no, we're not going 484 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 1: to give up our first in the nation primary status 485 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,360 Speaker 1: still going to exist that way for Republicans because remember 486 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:08,440 Speaker 1: iowas a caucus. 487 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:10,919 Speaker 2: But I don't think Biden's James going to be on 488 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 2: the ballot. It will President Biden. 489 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 3: This is this is CBS News two days ago, will 490 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:20,159 Speaker 3: be the first sitting White House occupant in history not 491 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,439 Speaker 3: to appear on the primary ballot of his party in 492 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 3: New Hampshire next year. The president's re election campaign informed 493 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:30,119 Speaker 3: this is a CBS reporting and form New Hampshire Democrats 494 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 3: Tuesday in a letter obtained from Biden campaign officials that 495 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 3: while he'd like to appear on the ballot, mister Biden 496 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 3: is obligated as a Democrat candidate for president to comply 497 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 3: with these delegate selection rules for the twenty twenty four 498 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 3: Democrat National Convention. So South Carolina will be the first 499 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:52,439 Speaker 3: state to hold the primary again. Clay, this this is 500 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 3: them trying to say, guys, knock it off. South Carolina 501 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 3: was Biden's firewall stronghold that was a turning point for 502 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 3: him the last time. They're going right to South Carolina 503 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 3: this time to be like, see Joe still got it. 504 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 505 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,120 Speaker 1: And also, don't mistake what's going on here. They're saying 506 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 1: there are too many white people in Iowa and New Hampshire. 507 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 1: That's why the argument is they're putting South Carolina first. Now, 508 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 1: it also has the benefit of being the state that 509 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:24,400 Speaker 1: elevated Joe Biden, and it also eliminates New Hampshire as 510 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,879 Speaker 1: a potential trip up in some ways because he can say, well, 511 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: I'm not dodging it. This is just where the actual 512 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 1: primary season is starting. But remember New Hampshire and Iowa voters, 513 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,120 Speaker 1: the people who actually get to look you in the eye, 514 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: meets you oftentimes multiple times. They judge Joe Biden and 515 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,640 Speaker 1: I think he came in I need to just jot 516 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,199 Speaker 1: this down and memorize it, but I believe he came 517 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 1: in like fifth in Iowa and fifth in New Hampshire, 518 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 1: or sixth in Iowa and fifth in New Hampshire. I 519 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: mean he was dead in the water from people who 520 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 1: actually make decisions and look and shake hands and judge 521 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 1: face to face candidates on whether they're up to the 522 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:06,679 Speaker 1: job of president or not. 523 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 3: And it all turned around very rapidly, and it turned 524 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 3: around in South Carolina. So this is why they've changed this. 525 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 3: But it will be interesting to see how it is 526 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 3: handled that there will be What this means is there's 527 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 3: going to be a winner of the New Hampshire. 528 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 1: There's an opportunity for somebody here. Clay Phillips has to 529 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 1: win it, right, is it Dean Phillips? Did I get 530 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 1: his name wrong? There? 531 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:27,880 Speaker 2: No? No, Yeah, that's right. 532 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 3: But I'm saying someone is going to get the opportunity to, 533 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 3: you know, if they can get on that ballot to 534 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 3: be the winner of the New Hampshire primary for the 535 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 3: Democrats in twenty twenty four. So you know, I think 536 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 3: it is about Yeah, it's name recognition obviously, but it's 537 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 3: also about setting a narrative because you know, are people 538 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 3: going to remember that really that you won by default 539 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 3: kind of but you get to go around and say 540 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 3: you won the New Hampshire primary, So maybe you're a 541 00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 3: guy that should get a little bit more of a look. 542 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 1: And if Biden were to lose, I would imagine Dean 543 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 1: Phillips will come out and say I was the only 544 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 1: Democrat who told you that Biden was going to lose 545 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: and that we needed a new candidate, and so this 546 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 1: is why you should support me in twenty twenty eight. 547 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 1: I don't think it'll matter, but I'm sure that will 548 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 1: be part of the argument. 549 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 3: I guess they're saying now that Biden will still win 550 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 3: because people will just like I guess they'll write him 551 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 3: in is the. 552 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 2: Way this is supposed to go. 553 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: We need to get somebody who's an expert on this 554 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 1: that it's super weird, and it has not gotten very 555 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 1: much attention what they're doing in terms of rewriting the 556 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 1: organization of the primary calendar and even how those delegates 557 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 1: would be Alligan. 558 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 3: You've got Biden campaign manager here, Julie Rodriguez wrote to 559 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 3: New Hampshire Democrats. The President looks forward to having his 560 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 3: name on New Hampshire's general election ballot as the nominee 561 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 3: of the Democrat Party after officially securing the nomination of the 562 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 3: twenty twenty four Democratic National Convention. So okay, so he'll 563 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 3: be on that's the general election, I know. So they're saying, 564 00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 3: like we remember, New Hampshire is also a toss up state. 565 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 3: I wonder if this, you know, buying large. It's one 566 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 3: of the eight or nine states. I wonder if this 567 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 3: is going to hurt him going forward. But then you 568 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 3: have New Hampshire State Democrat Party chairman tweeting in response, 569 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 3: the reality is that Joe Biden will win the New 570 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 3: Hampshire First the Nation primary in January, win renomination in Chicago, 571 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 3: and we'll be re elected next November. But how is 572 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 3: he going to How's he gonna win if he's not 573 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 3: on the ballot. 574 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: Well, he's gonna win the general. I again, I want 575 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 1: an expert, but this is the guy saying the primary. 576 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 3: This is the state Democrat party chairman saying he's still 577 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 3: going to win the first the nation primary in January. 578 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 2: I don't know how they're doing. I don't know. Again, 579 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 2: this is a total mess. 580 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 1: And I don't think most people have paid attention to 581 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: the reconfiguration of the Democrat primary calendar that has happened. 582 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 1: And it doesn't even make any sense to me. But 583 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 1: it's based on the fact that Iowa New Hampshire are 584 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 1: too white. It's also going to be a crazy year 585 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 1: in politics in general, so I'm not even sure this 586 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 1: is going to be like one of the one of 587 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 1: the biggest stories. 588 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 2: We'll see what happens in New Hampshire. 589 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 3: You know, over the years, how many photos have you 590 00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 3: kept and stored away somewhere? Would you to guests one hundred, 591 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 3: maybe two hundred, one thousand or more? How about digitizing 592 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 3: all those photos? Look, it's probably time right particularly before 593 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 3: the coloring on those photos starts to fade, they get torn, 594 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 3: or you just lose them somewhere. 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I don't understand South 622 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 3: Orange Maple School District believes ending Halloween celebrations will help 623 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 3: them move forward in building equity, fostering inclusion, and building 624 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 3: a sense of belonging throughout the schools. Clay, I mean, anyone, 625 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 3: you're a big Halloween guy. You're I know right now. 626 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 2: You are in full full Halloween. 627 00:32:56,600 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 1: Pre a monster party tomorrow. No pun intended there. That's 628 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 1: kind of a dad joke. Maybe monster party tomorrow. Lots 629 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 1: of people are gonna be dressed up the amount. We've 630 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 1: got a tent in the backyard. We've got all sorts 631 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 1: of liquor, beer like, all piled up. It's all costumes, 632 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 1: all adults. Yes, we're all in. We got all sorts 633 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 1: of decorations too. So you're a big. 634 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 3: Halloween guy, and yet they're trying to say that Halloween 635 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 3: is insufficiently inclusive. 636 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 2: I could. I don't understand. 637 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 3: There's the basis for Halloween, and yeah, you go back 638 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 3: and I and people are gonna say oh, and in 639 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 3: All Saints Day and the sort of a Christian thing, 640 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 3: and then there's the pagan Forget about the history of 641 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 3: it for a second. The way that it's actually practiced 642 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 3: today is that everyone gets to dress up like something, 643 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 3: and you could always do a creative costume. 644 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 2: Yeah you know. 645 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 3: I mean, how hard is it to just put on 646 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 3: a couple of fake vampire teeth and say, you know, 647 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:49,719 Speaker 3: I won't drink your blood. 648 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I get if you don't want kids to dress 649 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 1: up at at school, Like, I don't know how common 650 00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 1: that is, you know, as I think through, I don't 651 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 1: think it should be banned if a kid wants to 652 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 1: come in his or her costume of choice. 653 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 2: But this is just. 654 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 1: Fun, right And it feels to me like more than 655 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 1: anything right now, people just. 656 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 2: Would like to have fun, right. 657 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 1: I feel like there is a deep well spring of 658 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 1: awfulness that seems to infect everything right now. And when 659 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 1: you take away things that are uniquely fun, kids get 660 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:31,239 Speaker 1: candy and everybody gets to dress up and have a 661 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 1: good time. And to your point, it doesn't have to 662 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 1: cost that much to have a costume even I mean, look, 663 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:43,359 Speaker 1: the quality of costumes is so infinitely much better than 664 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 1: when you and me Buck used to walk around and 665 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 1: like like. 666 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 2: A bed sheet, you know around your neck. 667 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, you've you know, and that's your your cape for 668 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 3: your Dracula costume or whatever. 669 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 670 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, you used to think you looked pretty good in 671 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:59,399 Speaker 1: those plastic costumes that were such, you know, like uncomfortable 672 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,239 Speaker 1: crap and breathe through the masks and everything else. And 673 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 1: you know, I walk into a costco now and for 674 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,360 Speaker 1: like fifteen dollars, so you know, you can be basically Superman. 675 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 1: You got all the fake muscles and everything else. I 676 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:16,280 Speaker 1: just I think we need more reasons to have fun 677 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 1: and less reasons to be offended and upset about something 678 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:21,959 Speaker 1: that could be fun. 679 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 2: We don't have. We don't have a lot of time 680 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 2: before we send that everybody off. 681 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 3: I just want to know what is your best ever 682 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,919 Speaker 3: to date, because I'm sure tomorrow you're gonna have quite 683 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,320 Speaker 3: an unveiling. What is your best costume in your mind 684 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 3: thus far? 685 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 1: I think when we went my wife and I went 686 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 1: as John Snow and deanares Targarian, I think that was 687 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 1: a that was a solid combo. Because I've done a 688 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,400 Speaker 1: lot of couple costumes now, we've been married for a 689 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 1: long time. We're usually connected. 690 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 3: I don't know if I've put on a Halloween costume 691 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 3: in it's definitely been a day. 692 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,920 Speaker 2: This does not surprise me at all. Yeah, but what 693 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 2: are you saying, sir? 694 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,359 Speaker 1: If you were like, oh, I love cause Halloween, I've 695 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 1: dressed up for twenty six consecutive years, that would have 696 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,360 Speaker 1: blown my mind. I would have been far more surprised. 697 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 1: When's the last time Carrie dressed up your wife? I bet, 698 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:09,960 Speaker 1: I bet she got. I got a half years ago. 699 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 2: She might have. I'll ask her, I'll find out. I'll 700 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 2: let you know. 701 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 3: I have a great party, Clay, I will do then, 702 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,760 Speaker 3: and everybody have a very happy, safe, fun Halloween