WEBVTT - Bustin Makes me Feel Good 0:00:06.000 --> 0:00:27.320 It's three in Tahiti and you're listening to Night Call. Hello, 0:00:27.360 --> 0:00:30.240 and welcome back to Night Call, a podcast for those 0:00:30.280 --> 0:00:34.000 strange days and lonely nights. I'm Molly Lambert here in 0:00:34.080 --> 0:00:37.640 Los Angeles, and with me is Tess Lynchen in New 0:00:37.720 --> 0:00:41.720 York City. We have Emily Yoshida. We are all here 0:00:41.760 --> 0:00:44.920 today to take some of your night calls and talk 0:00:44.960 --> 0:00:48.120 about some haunted dolls. As always, give us a night 0:00:48.159 --> 0:00:51.960 call at two four oh four six night, or send 0:00:52.040 --> 0:00:56.040 us an email at Night Call podcast at gmail dot com. 0:00:56.080 --> 0:00:58.600 You can also text us at to four oh four 0:00:58.680 --> 0:01:02.360 six night. Have the tech spend popping off. You know, 0:01:02.400 --> 0:01:04.520 we got in some texts. I was really excited the 0:01:04.520 --> 0:01:07.000 first text came in and I was legitimately like, oh 0:01:07.120 --> 0:01:12.240 a text. It's like the magic of all over again. 0:01:12.360 --> 0:01:14.560 Or whenever you got your first text message, did you 0:01:14.560 --> 0:01:18.200 get a fax machine? Care would be ideal, just like 0:01:20.680 --> 0:01:25.360 Haunted Doll alert. Uh. We got a message from the 0:01:25.400 --> 0:01:29.760 ice cream truck ghost caller that cut off. She was like, Hey, 0:01:29.800 --> 0:01:33.000 I'm going to explain I found out a while ago. Yeah, 0:01:33.040 --> 0:01:35.840 but I just wanted to say on the podcast to her, 0:01:36.680 --> 0:01:38.720 please call back in and tell that's what happened with 0:01:38.720 --> 0:01:41.319 the ice cream truck ghost? It's a cliffhanger. Make sure 0:01:41.400 --> 0:01:44.920 you've got four bars, Please call again? I mean I 0:01:44.959 --> 0:01:47.360 was also like, I hope she wasn't taken by the 0:01:47.400 --> 0:01:52.240 ghost all of the phone call was my first thought. Um, 0:01:52.280 --> 0:01:54.600 but yeah, we wanted to talk about haunted dolls again 0:01:54.640 --> 0:01:56.840 a little bit. This isn't so much haunted as just 0:01:56.920 --> 0:02:00.520 in the category of dolls in general. Have you guys 0:02:00.600 --> 0:02:04.200 been getting a lot of haunted doll feedback? I haven't 0:02:04.520 --> 0:02:06.920 seen any. I haven't really been putting out the feeler 0:02:07.040 --> 0:02:11.600 for haunted dolls, to be honest, But yeah, Tess, how 0:02:11.600 --> 0:02:16.040 about you any haunted doll feelings. My cousin Molly, who 0:02:16.160 --> 0:02:19.920 is really really cool, she enjoyed the Haunted Doll podcast 0:02:19.919 --> 0:02:22.519 a lot, and she requested we do a Luigi board. 0:02:23.520 --> 0:02:26.280 Great idea, which is a great idea, But honestly, I'm 0:02:26.320 --> 0:02:31.720 a little scared the power of magic. Yes, yes, for it. Well, 0:02:31.760 --> 0:02:34.000 I'm a little scared of dolls. That's what I realized too. 0:02:34.240 --> 0:02:36.960 They're kind of kind of terrifying. No. Well, as we've 0:02:36.960 --> 0:02:40.480 explored for many podcasts, but let's keep going. Well, what 0:02:40.560 --> 0:02:43.440 happened to me was I had a doll encounter, like 0:02:43.600 --> 0:02:46.040 right after that podcast came out where we talked about 0:02:46.160 --> 0:02:49.440 the Haunted dolls. I was in Little Tokyo in Los 0:02:49.480 --> 0:02:52.960 Angeles and I saw this girl who was carrying like 0:02:53.040 --> 0:02:55.800 a full It wasn't a full sized doll, but it 0:02:55.880 --> 0:02:57.840 was like bigger than a barbie. It was like a 0:02:57.880 --> 0:03:01.200 weird large size of doll. You're talking like a chicken 0:03:01.240 --> 0:03:04.639 American girl doll. Yeah, I guess. I feel like it 0:03:04.760 --> 0:03:07.960 was even even bigger than that. It was like very large. 0:03:08.000 --> 0:03:10.600 This is this is like she's probably under twenties, but 0:03:10.760 --> 0:03:13.359 she had the girl had a green mohawk, and then 0:03:13.400 --> 0:03:16.880 the doll was dressed identically like her with a green mohawk. 0:03:17.600 --> 0:03:20.760 And so, being the investigative reporter I am. I went 0:03:20.760 --> 0:03:22.280 over and I was like, Hi, may I talk to 0:03:22.320 --> 0:03:26.720 you about your doll? And she was like yes you may. Um. 0:03:27.040 --> 0:03:29.960 She was like, oh, I customized it myself and I 0:03:30.000 --> 0:03:32.640 sell them. I have like an Instagram account. It's like 0:03:32.680 --> 0:03:37.160 something customs uh. And it's a ball jointed doll. And 0:03:37.200 --> 0:03:39.880 then I plunged into the rabbit hole of a ball 0:03:40.000 --> 0:03:43.320 jointed dolls, which is a whole world of doll stuff. 0:03:43.360 --> 0:03:46.240 I knew nothing about what doesn't ball jointed doll just 0:03:46.320 --> 0:03:48.720 mean that it's articulated that you can bend its limbs. 0:03:49.280 --> 0:03:51.800 It's like the community. Because I was telling somebody about 0:03:51.800 --> 0:03:53.120 this and they were like, oh, yeah, like people used 0:03:53.120 --> 0:03:55.280 to do with blive dolls on live journal. And I 0:03:55.360 --> 0:03:58.520 was like, my friend Lauren does live dolls for everyone. 0:03:58.560 --> 0:04:00.440 She you know, she'll like, if she really likes you, 0:04:00.440 --> 0:04:03.160 shall make a blithe doll in your image. Yeah, it's 0:04:03.200 --> 0:04:06.480 like keep a blithe doll. Blithe doll. I think it's 0:04:06.520 --> 0:04:09.200 a I think it's a Japanese doll all the all 0:04:09.520 --> 0:04:11.520 like this doll that this girl had, and a lot 0:04:11.560 --> 0:04:13.720 of these dolls. I think we're like Japanese dolls that 0:04:13.720 --> 0:04:16.240 that you can then customize. It's like you buy the 0:04:16.279 --> 0:04:19.440 body and then you like paint it yourself and freak 0:04:19.480 --> 0:04:21.080 it well. I think you can also like change out 0:04:21.120 --> 0:04:22.960 the heads, you can change out the hair. You can 0:04:23.040 --> 0:04:25.040 do all kinds of things with them. And so what 0:04:25.080 --> 0:04:28.000 people do is they customize them, or they like keep 0:04:28.040 --> 0:04:30.240 customizing them and changing them all the time, and then 0:04:30.279 --> 0:04:34.400 they pose them. You elaborate setups everywhere they go, Like 0:04:34.440 --> 0:04:36.719 you can build doll houses that are they have like 0:04:36.760 --> 0:04:39.320 mid century modern blive dolls with like the mid century 0:04:39.320 --> 0:04:42.800 modern house and they're dressed in yeah, but their physical 0:04:42.880 --> 0:04:45.960 dolls they're not. They're physical like okay, all right, No, 0:04:46.040 --> 0:04:48.400 they're physical dolls that you place in real spaces. But 0:04:48.440 --> 0:04:50.479 then you like have an Instagram account for them. That's 0:04:50.520 --> 0:04:53.360 like the life of the dolls doll as a person. Well, 0:04:53.440 --> 0:04:55.800 isn't that like, what was it socality Barbie or something? 0:04:56.080 --> 0:05:00.040 I mean Barbie herself. My friends Lawton does the a 0:05:00.200 --> 0:05:03.479 Barbie Instagram, which is like an amazing doll Instagram where 0:05:03.520 --> 0:05:05.880 it's like he just started doing it for fun because 0:05:05.880 --> 0:05:07.840 he worked for Barbie and he liked doing it, but 0:05:07.880 --> 0:05:11.760 it's like Barbie's Instagram and it's really well done. You know. 0:05:12.080 --> 0:05:15.040 I think they may have poked fun at this on SNL. 0:05:15.160 --> 0:05:16.960 They did the whole sketch about it, and I was like, 0:05:17.000 --> 0:05:20.359 that's my friend's Latin Barbie Instagram. He like invented the 0:05:20.360 --> 0:05:23.159 Barbie social media presence and it's really good. Well, that's 0:05:23.160 --> 0:05:28.000 why I love the Sylvanian Families Instagram because or and 0:05:28.040 --> 0:05:31.040 the Twitter. Actually mostly I like the Twitter because even 0:05:31.080 --> 0:05:32.760 though it feels like more it should be more of 0:05:32.760 --> 0:05:37.279 an Instagram account. There's something about following a very chill 0:05:37.400 --> 0:05:41.039 like the chillist Instagram you could possibly imagine, but following 0:05:41.040 --> 0:05:42.800 it on Twitter, so having it in your feet and 0:05:42.880 --> 0:05:45.600 make amid people like screaming about the apocalypse and about 0:05:45.680 --> 0:05:48.440 Roseanne and whatever, and then just having some chill bunnies, 0:05:48.480 --> 0:05:51.080 being like spring is a time for enjoying your friends. 0:05:52.200 --> 0:05:54.840 I love that. I love to just retweet it, you know, 0:05:55.160 --> 0:05:57.400 in the middle of a crisis. I have one like 0:05:57.480 --> 0:06:00.960 that that's real cats, not doll cats that live in 0:06:01.000 --> 0:06:03.720 a forest. 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That's 0:07:53.840 --> 0:07:56.320 that's how I learned about well, you know, the ball jointed. 0:07:56.440 --> 0:07:58.400 But what was interesting about it was that it was 0:07:58.440 --> 0:08:00.600 a male doll. She was a men, and the doll 0:08:00.720 --> 0:08:03.080 was a hot guy. And then I realized that, like 0:08:03.120 --> 0:08:06.320 a lot of this community is women in gay men 0:08:06.320 --> 0:08:09.760 customizing dolls that are like hot guys. And I thought 0:08:09.840 --> 0:08:12.640 that was really interesting because so much of the conversation 0:08:12.680 --> 0:08:16.200 about sex dolls is about men with female sex dolls. 0:08:16.240 --> 0:08:19.160 But I was like, oh, these women are like making 0:08:19.160 --> 0:08:22.640 a hot guy doll and then like giving it life. 0:08:23.120 --> 0:08:26.559 Uh that I mean, did you read Alison Davis's piece 0:08:26.600 --> 0:08:29.560 in New York about the the like the male sex dolls. 0:08:30.000 --> 0:08:31.600 I didn't. I haven't read it yet, but I saw 0:08:31.640 --> 0:08:33.640 it on the news stand and I was like, oh, like, 0:08:33.800 --> 0:08:37.880 two's a trend. Yeah, guys, Well it's funny because they're like, 0:08:37.880 --> 0:08:41.000 you know, obviously there's more of a market for female 0:08:41.000 --> 0:08:44.600 sex dolls, but like the people who want the male 0:08:44.640 --> 0:08:48.240 sex doll are very are very exacting and very specific 0:08:48.280 --> 0:08:51.559 in their demands. And I mean it doesn't sound that fun, 0:08:51.679 --> 0:08:53.760 but I think that I think half the fun of it. 0:08:53.840 --> 0:08:55.960 I guess if you have one is just designing it, 0:08:56.040 --> 0:08:58.920 like not the sex part, but just having like designing 0:08:58.960 --> 0:09:01.640 your perfect man the just smiles pleasantly and like lies 0:09:01.679 --> 0:09:03.520 on the floor. Well yeah, I also like the idea 0:09:03.559 --> 0:09:05.440 that people that like need stuff like that can just 0:09:05.480 --> 0:09:08.280 opt out of having to date regular people that might 0:09:08.360 --> 0:09:11.120 not want that experience. Sure, if you're someone who should 0:09:11.160 --> 0:09:13.560 probably dat a sex doll instead of a human being 0:09:13.640 --> 0:09:18.600 because you want to like self identifying, maybe take yourself 0:09:18.600 --> 0:09:21.240 out of the sexual marketplace and buy that doll for 0:09:21.400 --> 0:09:24.439 his one more doll thing. Oh well, this isn't it's 0:09:24.480 --> 0:09:27.880 an odd segue from the sex dolls to newborn baby dolls. 0:09:28.600 --> 0:09:32.520 All right, Well it's just a full circle, right, I 0:09:32.559 --> 0:09:35.560 mean the circle of life. I think it was. It 0:09:35.679 --> 0:09:39.040 became kind of like a trend piece like ten years ago, um, 0:09:39.080 --> 0:09:43.200 around two thousand eight or so. Uh, the reborn doll 0:09:43.600 --> 0:09:47.720 fandom movement thing where people and there are a lot 0:09:47.760 --> 0:09:50.960 of different reasons why people would get an extremely realistic 0:09:51.040 --> 0:09:55.360 newborn doll. Um, some of them have heartbeats, and they 0:09:55.559 --> 0:09:58.480 look like they breathe and stuff, and some of them, 0:09:58.559 --> 0:10:00.920 you know, like they've been used their arapeutically for people 0:10:00.920 --> 0:10:03.400 who have lost their kids, and that's like a great 0:10:03.679 --> 0:10:05.400 you know, if it helps people, that's great, but it 0:10:05.520 --> 0:10:08.560 also you know, they become kind of collector's items. These 0:10:08.559 --> 0:10:12.679 dolls are very expensive babies robot babies, but you can 0:10:12.720 --> 0:10:15.600 have them made. I mean, it's like the design processes. 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:18.240 What's it's called. What's it called when you design them 0:10:18.440 --> 0:10:23.920 reborn ing it has a verb um, but yeah, I 0:10:23.920 --> 0:10:26.280 mean it's crazy because it's like you buy you can 0:10:26.320 --> 0:10:28.480 buy the parts and do it yourself, which results in 0:10:28.559 --> 0:10:31.920 like a really awful looking doll because newborns, you know, 0:10:32.320 --> 0:10:35.440 with the new they're not like the most sypathetically huge 0:10:35.800 --> 0:10:38.839 exactly look like a real baby, which is a different thing. 0:10:39.880 --> 0:10:41.880 Does it just take you into the own canny valley though, 0:10:42.000 --> 0:10:44.280 that's the thing. And apparently there was a big problem 0:10:44.280 --> 0:10:46.920 because people would have these dolls and they would treat 0:10:47.000 --> 0:10:49.160 them like babies. So sometimes they even have them in 0:10:49.200 --> 0:10:52.080 car seats in the car, or they'd even just happen blinds. Yeah, 0:10:52.320 --> 0:10:54.559 so whether it's in a car seat in your locked car, 0:10:54.640 --> 0:10:56.880 that you're not in or like lying on the floor 0:10:56.960 --> 0:10:59.440 of your car. People were calling the police and being like, 0:10:59.480 --> 0:11:01.000 there's an in been in a car and then they 0:11:01.040 --> 0:11:02.880 show up and it would take them a minute to 0:11:02.920 --> 0:11:06.400 be like, oh, I am like clutching my chest. What 0:11:06.600 --> 0:11:09.200 is the point of having a reborn if you don't 0:11:09.240 --> 0:11:10.680 take it in with you when you go to the 0:11:10.720 --> 0:11:13.120 grocery store, Like, isn't the whole point to have the 0:11:13.280 --> 0:11:15.480 It's like it's like the training dollar you have to 0:11:15.520 --> 0:11:18.040 tell you, like not to have sex when you again, 0:11:18.280 --> 0:11:20.360 like to bring it back to the sex doll. And 0:11:20.360 --> 0:11:22.720 maybe it's for people who don't want the full responsibility 0:11:22.720 --> 0:11:24.959 of relationship with the baby. They're like, I want a 0:11:24.960 --> 0:11:27.120 baby I can leave in the car. Sometimes there's also 0:11:27.120 --> 0:11:30.280 an Instagram Yeah, I mean. The Guardian wrote about this 0:11:30.400 --> 0:11:32.920 a while ago and they tried to interview people who 0:11:32.960 --> 0:11:34.880 had reborn dolls and a few of them are like, 0:11:35.120 --> 0:11:38.480 don't use my name because it because of the Uncanny 0:11:38.559 --> 0:11:41.800 Valley effect, people are just like really creeped out by 0:11:41.800 --> 0:11:44.240 it in ways that are difficult for them to express. 0:11:44.280 --> 0:11:46.280 So there's a stigma attached and a lot of these 0:11:46.280 --> 0:11:49.520 people are you know, grandparents to like people whose kids 0:11:49.520 --> 0:11:52.160 have grown up and they like wish that they had 0:11:52.280 --> 0:11:55.199 a baby. This is a black mirror. It's a black mirror. 0:11:55.480 --> 0:11:58.080 Do you guys think that there are people who just 0:11:58.240 --> 0:12:02.160 want like babies that never grow up? For sure? Yeah, 0:12:02.840 --> 0:12:06.080 like forever kitten. Yeah. Well that's the weird thing too, 0:12:06.120 --> 0:12:09.520 is they have these like the stuffed animals that breathe 0:12:09.559 --> 0:12:13.439 and have heart beats and are used for people with dementia. Um, 0:12:13.480 --> 0:12:15.839 you know, and and apparently it's very effective. It's like 0:12:15.840 --> 0:12:19.440 a calming device and stuff, and they're not creepy. But 0:12:19.559 --> 0:12:22.600 the human version, well that's for sure true. I feel 0:12:22.600 --> 0:12:24.680 like the thing about the Uncanny Valley is like the 0:12:24.720 --> 0:12:28.520 closer you try to approximate realism, the more it opens up. 0:12:28.600 --> 0:12:30.880 You know. But like if you go in the stuffed 0:12:30.920 --> 0:12:33.960 animal direction, but why is that? I mean, because if 0:12:33.960 --> 0:12:36.400 it looks exactly like a real kid, because it doesn't 0:12:36.480 --> 0:12:38.959 ever look I told I brought this up on another one, 0:12:39.000 --> 0:12:40.920 but I watched the show called like Animal Babies in 0:12:40.920 --> 0:12:42.400 the Wild that turned out to be like they were 0:12:42.440 --> 0:12:44.480 putting it's called Spy in the Wild. They put robot 0:12:44.480 --> 0:12:47.440 baby animals amongst real baby animals. But it was like 0:12:47.840 --> 0:12:50.720 you could just the robots were also scary, and the 0:12:50.760 --> 0:12:53.200 fact that they were surrounded by real, incredibly cute baby 0:12:53.200 --> 0:12:56.080 animals just made you more aware. But some of the 0:12:56.080 --> 0:12:58.360 baby animals like accepted the robot is one of their 0:12:58.360 --> 0:13:01.000 own because they were just like a really jacked up baby, 0:13:01.160 --> 0:13:04.400 which kinds of animals, all of them, they all but 0:13:04.520 --> 0:13:06.760 again it's because they're babies. They're just like, we're not 0:13:06.800 --> 0:13:15.200 gonna like turn on this maybe baby thing. Well, we 0:13:15.280 --> 0:13:18.599 have a really exciting nightcall this week. We have a 0:13:18.720 --> 0:13:22.600 nightcall from UM, a special friend, a friend of the pod. 0:13:22.720 --> 0:13:27.720 Let's yeah, friend of the Hey, guys, So it's Nicole 0:13:28.040 --> 0:13:31.000 from It's Happening with Snooky and Joey and I have 0:13:31.040 --> 0:13:34.040 a nightcall for you guys. So, I totally believe in 0:13:34.080 --> 0:13:36.439 aliens and I always have this presence of aliens in 0:13:36.520 --> 0:13:39.240 my house. I know it sounds crazy, but UM, the 0:13:39.280 --> 0:13:43.480 Grays I've always been not like attracted to, but always 0:13:43.520 --> 0:13:47.480 like interested in UM, and I always feel like there's 0:13:47.520 --> 0:13:50.760 alien presents around me ever since I was little. So 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:53.000 can you tell me about the Grays and what I've 0:13:53.040 --> 0:14:01.440 been feeling? Wow, thank you so much, Nicole. That was Nicole. 0:14:02.040 --> 0:14:08.400 Snicky Poetzy of um TV and podcast fame UM who 0:14:08.480 --> 0:14:11.720 has a podcast also produced by our dear Ben Hosley 0:14:12.040 --> 0:14:16.440 here at audio boom Um. I mean that I've never 0:14:16.480 --> 0:14:18.960 heard of Gray's being like a presence, like a ghost 0:14:19.080 --> 0:14:23.120 in a house. Uh, you know, like a possessing spirit 0:14:23.240 --> 0:14:26.280 or a resident spirit in a physical space. But to 0:14:26.400 --> 0:14:28.440 my mind, it's more like I feel like I've heard 0:14:28.480 --> 0:14:32.720 people talk about angels being aliens, about the idea of 0:14:32.760 --> 0:14:36.360 like a spirit, a positive spiritual presence that accompanies you. 0:14:36.440 --> 0:14:40.720 That's like the friendly aliens helping you in your life. 0:14:41.040 --> 0:14:43.160 I feel like that might be what Nicole has, the 0:14:43.240 --> 0:14:45.440 aliens who have evolved to the point where they can 0:14:45.520 --> 0:14:50.360 kind of be like spiritually present without being physical presences, 0:14:51.440 --> 0:14:55.960 or they're like trying to touch you from the other realm. Yeah, Um, 0:14:56.000 --> 0:14:58.240 I was just reading about I mean kind of related, 0:14:58.280 --> 0:15:02.720 but how children like Emily sent us something about you know, 0:15:03.080 --> 0:15:06.720 a child describing like a kind of ghost presence with 0:15:06.840 --> 0:15:12.000 the spiral tweet that was going around actually completely terrifying um. 0:15:12.080 --> 0:15:15.000 And even weirder, I think that whatever publication that was 0:15:15.480 --> 0:15:18.000 seemed like some kind of neighborhood newsletter or something was 0:15:18.080 --> 0:15:21.240 like here's a cute story from a child about the 0:15:21.240 --> 0:15:23.800 fourteen year old pregnant girl who haunts her in her 0:15:23.800 --> 0:15:27.680 house at night and hers her second mommy, uh, with 0:15:27.800 --> 0:15:31.520 yellow eyelashes. On the other hand, kids, do you say 0:15:31.520 --> 0:15:34.400 the darkest things? Well, I was looking into this and 0:15:34.480 --> 0:15:38.720 it says that that children. That one theory to explain 0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:42.440 why children might see ghosts more often is that they 0:15:42.680 --> 0:15:45.800 It's called the electromagnetic spectrum theory, or maybe that's just 0:15:45.840 --> 0:15:47.280 what I called it in my notes, but it says 0:15:47.320 --> 0:15:52.080 adult humans can only see four hundred to seven hundred 0:15:52.360 --> 0:15:55.760 and um whatever that is on the electromagnetic spectrum UV. 0:15:55.880 --> 0:15:59.400 A lightfalls just below visible light at four hundred to 0:15:59.560 --> 0:16:04.120 three fifteen. Infra red light falls just above at seven 0:16:04.200 --> 0:16:07.600 fifty to one. No idea what measurement this is, but 0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:13.360 it's basically like children. Young kids see things at three eighty, 0:16:13.440 --> 0:16:16.320 which is in the UV range, so their vision is 0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:21.160 actually different than adults. And theoretically, if spiritual presences were 0:16:21.240 --> 0:16:24.720 visible in that range, children could see them, but adults. 0:16:25.400 --> 0:16:29.480 So you're the egon I think maybe for today. I 0:16:29.520 --> 0:16:31.880 always thought Emily was the egon. Well I just I 0:16:32.120 --> 0:16:34.760 got I went very deep on this, but it's I 0:16:35.000 --> 0:16:39.000 mean it's interesting. I mean I think we'll trade off. 0:16:39.040 --> 0:16:41.880 It adds and flows. This is a night called listeners. 0:16:41.920 --> 0:16:44.080 You can tell us which Ghostbusters we are. Yea, we 0:16:44.080 --> 0:16:48.320 should probably put a pull out and figure it out, climber, 0:16:48.800 --> 0:16:54.440 but maybe Nicole. Guys, you know that they only made 0:16:54.440 --> 0:16:57.200 Ghostbusters Too because of the success of the Ghostbusters cartoon 0:16:57.360 --> 0:17:00.760 and the Ghostbusters action figures. Really, yeah, they were so 0:17:00.800 --> 0:17:03.000 successful that they made Ghostbusters too, and then they made 0:17:03.120 --> 0:17:05.360 it was a long gap, Yeah, it wasn't. They made 0:17:05.400 --> 0:17:08.680 Annie Pott's dress as her character from the cartoon, which 0:17:08.720 --> 0:17:11.480 is not what she looked like a Ghostbusters have no idea. Yeah, 0:17:11.520 --> 0:17:14.400 you went on this really deep Ghostbsters thing a while ago. 0:17:14.920 --> 0:17:18.600 Boston makes me feel good. Two is a lot more 0:17:18.840 --> 0:17:21.480 loosey goosey than one, which makes really good. It's a 0:17:21.480 --> 0:17:25.960 really late eighties movie in every way. But Bobby Brown, 0:17:26.160 --> 0:17:28.480 the Bobby Brown does the theme on our own, which 0:17:28.520 --> 0:17:30.960 is really good. And then he appears in the next 0:17:30.960 --> 0:17:34.639 frame after he's like, hey, the Ghostbusters, I love you guys. 0:17:34.840 --> 0:17:36.720 Oh my god, I think we should have a final 0:17:36.760 --> 0:17:38.960 word for Nicole. She asked to second course. Sorry, I 0:17:39.000 --> 0:17:41.480 got on a Ghostbuster side track do you think it's 0:17:41.480 --> 0:17:48.040 possible that Nicole is not haunted malevolently? Is she visited 0:17:48.080 --> 0:17:52.000 by Invisible Grace? Well, I mean it could be a 0:17:52.080 --> 0:17:55.199 kind of like kind of more of a like an 0:17:55.320 --> 0:17:58.800 arrival Aliens type situation where it's not like they're here 0:17:58.800 --> 0:18:01.040 to really announce them bells, but they're more just sort 0:18:01.040 --> 0:18:03.800 of gathering data and as an as a benign presence 0:18:03.840 --> 0:18:06.800 and just sort of like installing themselves and collecting information. 0:18:06.800 --> 0:18:09.200 And they just happened to have chosen her house as 0:18:10.119 --> 0:18:14.000 as a steak out point. Um. Yeah, I don't know 0:18:14.200 --> 0:18:16.639 that would be money. Let me say this is that 0:18:16.760 --> 0:18:19.200 if I were an alien, especially if I were running 0:18:19.200 --> 0:18:24.359 a simulation, right, I would definitely be visiting the cast 0:18:24.400 --> 0:18:26.840 of the Jersey Shore more than anyone else. If I 0:18:26.880 --> 0:18:29.960 wanted to take a temperature track on culture, if I 0:18:30.000 --> 0:18:33.000 were from another planet, that's what I would watch almost exclusively. 0:18:33.200 --> 0:18:36.919 It's been it's been long enough for um for the 0:18:37.160 --> 0:18:42.080 radio waves from Jersey Shore's first season, uh, at least 0:18:42.200 --> 0:18:47.320 to reach the nearest star system. Yeah. I think it's 0:18:47.359 --> 0:18:50.200 been I think six years is the amount of time 0:18:50.720 --> 0:18:53.760 so I but not long enough for it to come back. 0:18:54.119 --> 0:18:56.800 So they would have to have some kind of um 0:18:56.960 --> 0:18:59.639 faster than light speed travel in order to get like 0:18:59.800 --> 0:19:02.560 they would have to the sequence of events that have 0:19:02.600 --> 0:19:05.120 to be They saw the first season of Jersey Shore. 0:19:05.160 --> 0:19:08.600 They didn't finish it. They watched like two episodes and like, 0:19:08.840 --> 0:19:11.200 we've got to go check this out. Hopped in there 0:19:11.240 --> 0:19:14.240 faster than light speed travel, came to Earth and by 0:19:14.280 --> 0:19:19.160 that point, it's, uh, snooky has a show on audio 0:19:19.240 --> 0:19:23.000 Boom and what what are the what are the odds 0:19:23.040 --> 0:19:28.720 that that's snooky? Might herself be a Gray was left 0:19:28.760 --> 0:19:31.520 here as a child by the Grays. I think we 0:19:31.560 --> 0:19:35.879 need more information for that. If anyone is human, it's snooky, 0:19:36.040 --> 0:19:37.919 you know what I mean? 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And she basically 0:22:01.119 --> 0:22:06.199 ran a scam that spanned a couple of years at 0:22:06.280 --> 0:22:09.000 least in New York, where she was just hanging out 0:22:09.080 --> 0:22:13.119 with the moneyed classes of New York and staying in 0:22:13.160 --> 0:22:16.480 a fancy hotels and soho and not paying her bill 0:22:16.520 --> 0:22:19.359 and just kind of floating on this claim that she was, 0:22:20.359 --> 0:22:23.240 um a lady of means and wanted to open an 0:22:23.359 --> 0:22:28.640 arts club. It's a pretty great story. It's it reads 0:22:28.680 --> 0:22:31.439 like it wants to be adapted into a movie. And 0:22:31.440 --> 0:22:34.480 I'm almost certain that it was saying she's in jail 0:22:34.520 --> 0:22:37.560 now she's at Rikers, which is also a free place 0:22:37.600 --> 0:22:40.480