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Speaker 1: Coming up on Special Report.

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Speaker 2: Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth is in Germany today during a

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Speaker 2: week long trip to Europe. His next stop is in Belgium,

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Speaker 2: where he will be the first member of Trump's second

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Speaker 2: administration to visit NATO. We'll discuss with retired Colonel Tony Shaker, and.

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Speaker 3: President Trump is working to regain America's economic power through tariffs.

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Speaker 3: We'll discuss with David Bonsen, and.

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Speaker 2: Political persecution for some J sixers still continues. We'll talk

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Speaker 2: with Condemned USA founder Trenis Evans about the continued political

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Speaker 2: persecution of some J sixers. All of that and so

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Speaker 2: much more right now on Special Report.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for tuning in to this hour of special reports.

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Speaker 3: I'm Emily Finn alongside Bo Davidson. In breaking news, President

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Speaker 3: Trump has negotiated a deal with the Russian Kremlin to

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Speaker 3: secure the release of Mark Fogel. Fogel was a teacher

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Speaker 3: who was arrested and detained on charges of bringing medical

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Speaker 3: marijuana into Russia.

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Speaker 2: The Kremlin released Fogel and he flew out of Russia

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Speaker 2: on Trump's Middle East Envoy Steve Whitcoff's plane. Fogel was

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Speaker 2: held for more than three years of a fourteen year sentence.

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Speaker 2: The Fogel family thanked President Trump, saying quote, we are

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Speaker 2: beyond grateful, relieved, and overwhelmed that after more than three

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Speaker 2: years of detention, our father, husband, and son, Mark Fogel

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Speaker 2: is finally coming home.

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Speaker 3: In others, in other breaking news, Steve Bannon has been

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Speaker 3: charged with a felony scheme to defraud and we'll receive

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Speaker 3: a three.

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Speaker 4: Year conditional discharge.

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Speaker 3: Upon leaving the courthouse, and Bannon addressed reporters, calling out,

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Speaker 3: Letitia James, take a listen.

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Speaker 5: See the sidliner right here.

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Speaker 6: Trump causes constitutional crist Trump calls this constitution crisis, showdown,

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Speaker 6: emergence of the limits of his power.

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Speaker 5: Let me be blunt.

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Speaker 6: This is a lesson here. The existential threat to President

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Speaker 6: Trump's administration is not in federal court. What President Trump

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Speaker 6: is doing is constitutional. The appellate courts.

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Speaker 5: Will say that.

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Speaker 6: The Supreme Court will say that the existential threat to

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Speaker 6: President Trump's administration, and I mean doje Elon Moss, Secretary Treasury,

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Speaker 6: Besant Russ, Vote, Stephen Miller, all of his people. The

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Speaker 6: existential threat is right here in this city. It is

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Speaker 6: the Queen of lawfair. It's Letitia James. Right now, Sores

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Speaker 6: has a DA that's running unopposed. He can call it

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Speaker 6: grand juried any time. He can set up criminal charges

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Speaker 6: on the most bogus efforts. Letitia James runs this deal.

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Speaker 6: She's got appliant media right here, appliant left wing media.

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Speaker 6: She's got a jury pool of only left wing radicals

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Speaker 6: in the upper west side of this city. And she's

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Speaker 6: got the judges. She's got all of it. And I'm

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Speaker 6: call hanging on calling, I'm calling on right now the

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Speaker 6: Attorney General Pam Bonnie to begin an immediate criminal investigation

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Speaker 6: to Letitia James, Alvin Bragg, all of for what they

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Speaker 6: did to President Trump. President Trump, on his true social

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Speaker 6: Day laid it out once again, the existential threat to

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Speaker 6: his administration is his queen of lawfair Letitia James, and

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Speaker 6: how she and how she and how she has and

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Speaker 6: how she has absolutely total control. And Doge and Elon

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Speaker 6: Musk and Scott Bessen and all of them ought to

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Speaker 6: be worried about this out of control city. Thank you

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Speaker 6: very much?

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Speaker 7: Are you brag?

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Speaker 3: And another top story we're following today, Secretary of Defense

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Speaker 3: Pete Hegstt's week long trip to several European countries, is

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Speaker 3: kicking off in Germany.

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Speaker 4: Heg Seth is receiving.

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Speaker 3: Praise for waking up early to participate in a workout

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Speaker 3: with green berets, displaying his hands on leadership style taking

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Speaker 3: a direct approach to support US military personnel across the world.

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Speaker 4: Hegseth has expected to travel.

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Speaker 3: To Poland and Belgium this week as well, meeting with

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Speaker 1: Leaders and for more on this story.

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Speaker 2: We want to welcome and retired Colonel Tony Schaeffer to

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Speaker 2: the show. Colonel, thank you so much for being with

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Speaker 2: us on special Report.

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Speaker 5: Hey Bo, good to be here.

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Speaker 8: Thanks well.

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Speaker 2: First of all, Colonel, have you ever seen this type

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Speaker 2: of hands on approach from a defense secretary before?

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Speaker 1: What do you think of it?

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Speaker 9: No, not from a defense secretary. The closest analogy to

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Speaker 9: this is John Lahman, when Secretary of Layman took control

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Speaker 9: since the Reagan administration have we had someone so who

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Speaker 9: I think it's good news. I can tell you for

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Speaker 9: a fact that morale by Pete the way he's doing

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Speaker 3: He has been getting a lot of praise for his

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Speaker 3: first person of President Trump's administration to visit NATO.

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Speaker 4: That meeting is coming up on Wednesday.

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Speaker 3: The war in Ukraine is obviously going to be one

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Speaker 3: of the main topics of conversation. So what should hegsett

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Speaker 3: than President Trump do to help end the war with Russia.

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Speaker 9: Well, President Trump's already started that process by opening communications

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Speaker 9: be taking the lead from the President on this. President

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Speaker 9: Trump said he wants to end the war right now.

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Speaker 9: The United States is rethinking how we support Ukraine. The

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Speaker 9: idea of sending unlimited money with no strategy that's done,

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Speaker 9: and I think it's very clear that Pete has an

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Speaker 9: idea of how to end this. I know General Keith

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Speaker 9: Kellogg is over as a special envoy.

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Speaker 5: So there's a full, a full.

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Speaker 9: Administrative administration effort designed to do essentially outreach of the Russians,

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, Secretary Hegseth is also bringing back Fort Bragg.

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Speaker 1: Colonel.

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Speaker 2: The base was originally named after Confederate General Braxton Bragg,

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Speaker 2: but under the Biden administration it was renamed to Fort Liberty.

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Speaker 2: The Pentagon said this week it now officially has its

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Speaker 2: original name back, but this time is named after Private

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Speaker 2: Rowland L. Bragg, who served during World War Two. What's

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Speaker 2: your reaction to this name change?

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Speaker 1: Was the right call.

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Speaker 5: It's the right call to return it to Fort Bragg.

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Speaker 9: The issue relating to which Brag that is, That's something

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Speaker 9: Look, I spent a lot of time there from the

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Speaker 5: Eighties through until I retired in.

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Speaker 9: The twenty eleven, so I think everybody knows it's Fort Bragg.

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Speaker 9: I think it going back to Fort Bragg is a

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Speaker 9: of Fort Pickett, Fort Hood and several other forts as well.

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Speaker 8: Well.

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Speaker 3: There has certainly been a lot of change is when

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Speaker 3: defense lately, transgenders actually are now no longer allowed to

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Speaker 3: serve in the US military. That was following an executive

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Speaker 4: Is this the right move to bring strength back to

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, let me be very clear on this.

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Speaker 9: I don't care who you sleep with, how you sleep,

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Speaker 9: but the idea that somehow you're going to come into

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Speaker 9: the military with issues which relate to what I consider

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Speaker 9: a mental condition, the military was offering the benefit of

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Speaker 9: actually coming into the military and then them surgically altering

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Speaker 9: you that would essentially make you unfit to deploy ever

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Speaker 5: So the idea that we were a social petri.

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Speaker 9: Dish is the military being essentially being used by the

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Speaker 5: It's over again.

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Speaker 9: I don't care if you're gay, straight, or whatever, but

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Speaker 9: transgenderism is not something that is I think compatible to

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Speaker 9: and that's not something that the military should be responsible

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Speaker 2: So colonel, just on that note, because that's a great

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Speaker 2: important point you brought up, because from my perspective, it

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Speaker 2: seems like people say, well, if you want to serve

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Speaker 2: our country, anyone should be able to serve. But you're

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Speaker 2: bringing up a very important point, which is if you're

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Speaker 2: less strong of a soldier, that would inevitably inhibit your

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Speaker 5: In combat?

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Speaker 9: Either when you're forward in the field, holding territory or

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Speaker 9: can't get those drugs, and what happens you break down,

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Speaker 9: You don't have the ability to think.

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Speaker 5: Correctly, and to your port.

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Speaker 9: If you're transgendering from male to female, you're actually kind

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Speaker 9: of weakening yourself in a number of ways. The bottom

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Speaker 9: line is that you simply there's other ways to serve.

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Speaker 9: There's a number of organizations within the country who will

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Speaker 9: saying so I think if you want to serve the country,

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Speaker 9: I'm not saying you shouldn't serve. I'm just saying the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a really good point.

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Speaker 3: President Trump is also instructing Elon Musk to conduct an

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Speaker 3: audit of the Pentagon, saying he expects to find hundreds

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Speaker 3: of billions of dollars of fraud and abuse.

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Speaker 4: What do you think he's going to uncover there?

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Speaker 9: Well, I know from my own personal experience there were

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Speaker 9: two parallel programs that existed back in the mid two

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Speaker 9: Future Combat Systems. They were the same thing, just run

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Speaker 9: by two defense contractors to the tune of millions of dollars.

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Speaker 9: And I knew at the time it's like, this is stupid.

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Speaker 9: So I do know that Pete's going to find more

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Speaker 9: programs like that.

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Speaker 5: Elon Musk's not going to take them long to figure

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Speaker 9: You're seeing probably upwards of I don't know twenty thirty

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Speaker 9: billion of waste. Heck, last year, when the Pentagon was

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Speaker 9: trying to pass an audit, they spent a billion dollars

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Speaker 9: and they still couldn't pass the audit. So there's no

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Speaker 9: doubt in my mind that the Pentagon, and I think

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Speaker 9: Pete would support what I'm about to say. The Pentagon

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Speaker 9: has lived without accountability for too long. Nobody wants an

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Speaker 9: expensive defense, they want an effective defense, and that's what

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Speaker 9: Pete's going to be focused on.

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Speaker 2: Your final thought on this, too, colonel, because this is

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Speaker 2: a big when President Trump is also weighing in on

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Speaker 2: the war between Israel and Hamas, saying the ceasefire agreement

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Speaker 2: should be canceled if Hamas does not released the remaining

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Speaker 2: hostages by Saturday. He said the same thing before the

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Speaker 2: all hell would break out if Hamasta Dot uphold their

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Speaker 2: end of the deal. So how do you think the

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Speaker 2: Trump effect is going to play out this time? And

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Speaker 2: unfortunately don't.

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Speaker 3: Us, Welcome back to special report. Republican senators are preparing

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Speaker 10: Well, thank you for having me.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely Well, let's first walk us through what is included

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Speaker 11: The Senate is looking to do.

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Speaker 10: A smaller package and specifically provide for spending to secure

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Speaker 10: So I think the President is really going to want

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Speaker 1: What do you think is the reason for that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I want to switch gears here for a moment.

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Speaker 10: You know, I think the long term benefits are clearly there,

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Speaker 11: For all of that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And speaking of tariff's Rosemary, President Trump also announced

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Speaker 2: What impact do you think that's going to have. I

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Speaker 2: Do you think it will make American industry more competitive again?

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Speaker 10: So yes, I absolutely do think that it'll make us

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Speaker 10: I think we're already seeing better trade negotiations play out.

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Speaker 1: Five or so.

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Speaker 12: Well, I certainly hope.

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Speaker 10: And and so I certainly am optimistic and hopeful that

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, we do need to get that under control, and

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Speaker 3: I know morus President Trump has been taking a lot

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Speaker 3: Your thoughts on that quickly before we have to let

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Speaker 10: I don't think we should ever estimate the President on this,

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Speaker 10: But certainly, you know, I think that all the actions

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Speaker 3: Absolutely well, Rosemary, thank you so much for joining Special Reports.

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Speaker 3: We do want to check in live with President Trump,

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Speaker 4: Let's take a listen.

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Speaker 8: Optional Rusty said to reduce the federal expenses.

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Speaker 12: It's essential.

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Speaker 8: It's essential for America to remain solvent as a country,

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Speaker 8: servicing vast amounts of debt.

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Speaker 13: And also, could you mention some of the things that

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Speaker 8: Right, Well, we often we do find it sort of

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Speaker 8: Maybe they're very good at investing, which case we should

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Speaker 8: And I think the reality is that they're getting wealthy

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Speaker 12: That's that's the honest truth of it.

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Speaker 8: Massive number of blank checks just flying out the building,

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Speaker 8: A do not pay list, which can take up to

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Speaker 12: It's my blowing. So so what we're talking about here,

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Speaker 8: then it makes sense. Oh, that's why everything just they

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Speaker 8: approve all the payments at Treasury, because if you approve

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Speaker 8: all the payments, you don't get complaints. But now we're

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Speaker 8: saying that no, actually we are going to complain if

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Speaker 8: money is spent badly, If if your taxpayer dollars are

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Speaker 8: not spent in a sensible approval manner, then that's not okay.

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Speaker 8: Your tax dollars need to be spent wisely. Things that

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Speaker 8: matter to the people. I mean these things like it's

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Speaker 8: just common sense, it's not it's not draconian or radical.

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Speaker 12: I think it's it's really just.

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Speaker 8: Saying, let's look at each of these expenditures and say,

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Speaker 8: is this actually in the best interesting for people?

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Speaker 12: And if it is, it's proved. If it's not, we

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Speaker 12: should think about it.

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Speaker 8: So, you know, and there's crazy things like just cursory

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Speaker 8: examination of social security.

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Speaker 12: And we've got people in there at one hundred and

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Speaker 12: fifty years old. Now do you know anyone's one hundred

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Speaker 12: and fifty?

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Speaker 8: I don't. Okay, they should be on the Guinness Book

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Speaker 8: of World Records. The're messing out, so you know that's

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Speaker 8: the case, where like I think they're probably dead, that's

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Speaker 8: my guess.

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Speaker 12: Or or they should be very famous, one of the two.

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Speaker 8: And then that a whole bunch of social Security payments

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Speaker 8: with is no identifying identifying information. Well, why is there

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Speaker 8: no identifying information? Obviously we want to make we want

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Speaker 8: to make sure that people who deserve to receive social

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Speaker 8: security do receive it, and that they receive it quickly

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Speaker 8: and accurately. Also another crazy thing, So you know, one

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Speaker 8: of the things is like which we are trying to

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Speaker 8: sort of right size the federal bureaucracy, just make sure

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Speaker 8: that this obviously needs you. They need to get a

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Speaker 8: lot of people working for the federal company, but not

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Speaker 8: as many as currently. So we're saying, well, okay, well

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Speaker 8: let's if people can retire, you know, with full benefit

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Speaker 8: benefits of everything, that that would be good.

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Speaker 12: They can retire, get their time in payments, everything.

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Speaker 8: And then we're told this is actually, I think a

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Speaker 8: great anecdote because we're told the most number of people.

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Speaker 12: That could retire possibly in a month is ten thousand.

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Speaker 12: We're like, well why do Why is that?

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Speaker 8: Well, because all the retirement paperwork is manual on paper.

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Speaker 8: It's manually calculated, the written down on a piece of paper.

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Speaker 8: Then it goes down a mine and like, what do

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Speaker 8: you mean a mine? Like, yeah, there's a limestone mine

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Speaker 8: where we store all the retirement paperwork that and you

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Speaker 8: look at picture of a picture of this mine.

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Speaker 12: We'll post the pictures afterwards.

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Speaker 8: And this is this mine looks like something out of

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Speaker 8: the fifties because it was started in nineteen fifty five,

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Speaker 8: so it looks like it's.

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Speaker 12: Like a time warp.

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Speaker 8: And then the speed, then the limiting factor is the

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Speaker 8: speed at which the mine shaft elevator can move determines

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Speaker 8: how many people can retire from the federal federal government

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Speaker 8: and the elevator breaks down. And then I said, sometimes,

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Speaker 8: and then you can't. Nobody can retire. Doesn't that sound crazy?

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Speaker 8: There's like a thousand people that work on this. So

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Speaker 8: I think if we can take those people and say, like,

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Speaker 8: you know what, instead of working in a mind shaft

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Speaker 8: and carry Manila oblopes to.

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Speaker 12: You know, boxes in a mindshaft, you.

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Speaker 8: Could do practically anything else and you would add to

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Speaker 8: the goods and services of the United States in a

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Speaker 8: more useful way.

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Speaker 12: So anyway, so.

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Speaker 8: I think, you know, that's an example, like at a

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Speaker 8: high level, if you could say, like, how do we

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Speaker 8: increase prosperity, is we get people to do to shift

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Speaker 8: from roles that are low to negative productivity to high

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Speaker 8: productivity roles and so increase the total output of goods

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Speaker 8: and services, which means that that there's a higher standard

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Speaker 8: of living available for everyone. That's that's the actual goal. No,

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Speaker 8: one's very quiet.

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Speaker 14: You're detractors, mister Musk, including a lot of Democrats.

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Speaker 12: I have detractors.

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Speaker 10: I don't believe it, say that you're orchestrating a hostile

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Speaker 10: takeover of government and doing it in a non transparent way.

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Speaker 12: What's your response to that criticism.

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Speaker 8: Well, first of all, you couldn't ask or stronger manage

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Speaker 8: from the public.

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Speaker 12: The public voted.

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Speaker 8: Uh, you know, they have a majority of the public

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Speaker 8: vote voting for President Trump.

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Speaker 12: We've won the House, we won the Senate.

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Speaker 8: The people voted for major government reform. There should be

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Speaker 8: no doubt about that. That was on the campaign. The

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Speaker 8: President spoke about that at every rally. The people voted

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Speaker 8: for major government reform. And that's what people are going

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Speaker 8: to get. They're going to get what they voted for.

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Speaker 8: And a lot of times that you know people that

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Speaker 8: don't get what they voted for, but in this presidency,

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Speaker 8: they are going to get what they voted for.

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Speaker 12: And that's what democracy is all about. Mister Busk.

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Speaker 14: The White House says that you will identify and excuse

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Speaker 14: yourself from any conflicts of.

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Speaker 12: Interest that you may have.

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Speaker 14: Does that mean that you are in effect policing yourself.

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Speaker 14: What are the checks and balances that are in place

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Speaker 14: to ensure that there is accountability and transparency.

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Speaker 8: Well, we actually are trying to be as transparent as

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Speaker 8: possible our actions. We post our actions to the DOGE

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Speaker 8: handle on X and to the Doge website. So all

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Speaker 8: of our actions which are maximally transparent. In fact, I

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Speaker 8: don't think there's been I don't know of a case

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Speaker 8: that we're an organization has been more transparent than.

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Speaker 12: The Doge organization. And so, you know, and the kind

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Speaker 12: of things we're doing are I think very very simple

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Speaker 12: and basic. That they're not. We're you know what I.

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Speaker 8: Mentioned brings for example about Treasury just making sure that

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Speaker 8: that payments that go out tax para money that goes

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Speaker 8: out is categorized correctly, that that that the payment is explained,

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Speaker 8: that organizations on that do not pay list which are

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Speaker 8: takes a lot to get there, that actually are not paid,

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Speaker 8: which currently they are paid. These these are these are

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Speaker 8: not individual judgment decisions. These about simply having sensible checks

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Speaker 8: and balances in the system itself to ensure that tax

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Speaker 8: paramney is sped well. So it's gotten likely with like

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Speaker 8: say a contract with some company of mine at all.

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Speaker 14: But if there is a conflict of interest when it

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Speaker 14: comes to you yourself, for instance, you've received billions of

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Speaker 14: dollars in federal contracts. When it comes to the Pentagon,

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Speaker 14: for instance, which the President I know has directed you

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Speaker 14: to look into are you policing yourself in that Is

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Speaker 14: there any sort of accountability check and balance in place

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Speaker 14: that would provide any transparency for the different people.

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Speaker 8: Well, all of our actions are are fully public. So

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Speaker 8: if you see anything you say like, wait a second, hey,

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Speaker 8: you know what that seems like? Maybe that's you know,

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Speaker 8: there's a conflict there. I felt like people are going

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Speaker 8: to be shy about saying that. They'll say it immediately,

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Speaker 8: you know.

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Speaker 12: Do you yourself?

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Speaker 6: Yes?

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Speaker 8: But transparency is what builds trust, not simply somebody asserting trust,

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Speaker 8: somebody saying they're trustworthy, but transparency so you can see

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Speaker 8: everything that's going on, and you can see am I

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Speaker 8: doing something that benefits one of my companies or not.

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Speaker 12: It's totally obvious.

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Speaker 13: And we thought that we would not let him do

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Speaker 13: that segment or look in that area if we thought

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Speaker 13: there was a lack of transparency or a kindfl like interest.

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Speaker 13: And we watched that also as a big businessman, he's

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Speaker 13: a successful guy. That's why we want him doing this.

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Speaker 13: We don't want an unsuccessful guy doing this now. One

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Speaker 13: thing also that Elon hasn't really mentioned are the groups

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Speaker 13: of people that are.

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Speaker 11: Getting some of these payments.

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Speaker 13: They're ridiculous, and we're talking about billions of dollars that

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Speaker 13: we've already found.

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Speaker 11: We found fraud and abuse.

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Speaker 13: I would say those two words as opposed to the

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Speaker 13: third word that I usually is. But in this case

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Speaker 13: fraud and abuse. It's abusive because most of these things

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Speaker 13: virtually made up or certainly money shouldn't be said to

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Speaker 13: and you know what I'm talking about, it's crazy. But

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Speaker 13: we're talking about tens of billions of dollars that we've

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Speaker 13: already found. And now a judge who's an activist judge

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Speaker 13: wants to try and stop us from doing this, and

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Speaker 13: why would they want to do that.

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Speaker 11: I campaign on this.

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Speaker 13: I can't paign to the fact that I said government

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Speaker 13: is corrupt, and it is very corrupt.

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Speaker 11: It's very very it's also foolish.

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Speaker 13: As an example, a man has a contract for three

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Speaker 13: months and the contract ends, but they keep paying him

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Speaker 13: for the next twenty years, you know, because nobody ends

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Speaker 13: a contract.

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Speaker 11: You get a lot of that.

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Speaker 13: You have a contract that's a three month contract. Now, normally,

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Speaker 13: if you're in a small in all fairness, it's the

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Speaker 13: size of this thing is so big. But if you

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Speaker 13: have a contract and you're in a regular business. You

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Speaker 13: end the contract in three months, you know it's a consultant.

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Speaker 13: Here's a contract for three months, but it goes on

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Speaker 13: for twenty years. And the guy doesn't say that he

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Speaker 13: got money for twenty years. You know, they don't say it.

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Speaker 13: They just keep getting checks month after month. And you

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Speaker 13: have various things like that, and even much worse than that,

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Speaker 13: actually much worse. And I guess you call that incompetence.

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Speaker 13: Maybe it could be corruption. It could be a deals

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Speaker 13: made on both sides, you know where I guess the

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Speaker 13: money he kicks. I think he has a lot of

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Speaker 13: kickback here, a lot of kickback here, tremendous kickback, because

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Speaker 13: nobody could be so stupid to give out some of

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Speaker 13: these contracts. So he has to get a kickback. So

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Speaker 13: that's what I got elected for. That and borders and military,

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Speaker 13: a lot of things. But this is a big part

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Speaker 13: of it. And I hope that the court system is

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Speaker 13: going to allow us to do what we.

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Speaker 11: Have to do.

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Speaker 13: We got elected to, among other things, find all of

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Speaker 13: this fraud abuse, all of this this horrible stuff going on.

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Speaker 13: And we've already found billions of dollars, not like a

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Speaker 13: little bit, billions, many billions of dollars, and when you

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Speaker 13: get down to it, it's going to be probably close

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Speaker 13: to a trillion dollars. It could be close to a

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Speaker 13: trillion dollars that we're going to find that will have

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Speaker 13: quite an impact on the budget. And you'll go to

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Speaker 13: a judge with a handpick a judge and he has

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Speaker 13: certain leanings. I'm not knocking anybody for that, but he

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Speaker 13: has certain leanings and he wants us to stop looking.

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Speaker 11: How do you stop looking? I mean, we've already found it.

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Speaker 13: We have a case in New York where a hotel

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Speaker 13: has paid fifty nine million dollars fifty nine million because

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Speaker 13: of because of housing migrants, illegal migrants, all illegal, I believe, and.

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Speaker 8: They were being paid twice the normal room rate at

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Speaker 8: a hard persent occupancy.

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Speaker 11: Unbelievable.

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Speaker 12: It's a question.

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Speaker 8: If I may sort of just going for presidence comments

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Speaker 8: at a at a high level, Okay, well.

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Speaker 12: What how exactly how do you what?

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Speaker 8: What are the two ingredients that are really necessary in

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Speaker 8: order to cut the budget depth sit in half from

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Speaker 8: two trillion to one trillion. And it's really two things,

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Speaker 8: competence and caring. And if you add competence and caring

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Speaker 8: you'll cut the budget debth sit in half, and and

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Speaker 8: I fully expect to be scrutinized and get a you know,

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Speaker 8: a daily proctology exam. Basically, my sots camp out there.

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Speaker 8: So it's not like I think I can get away

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Speaker 8: with something. I'll be scrutinized NonStop. But with support of

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Speaker 8: the President, we can. We can cut the budget depth

669
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Speaker 8: sit in half from two trillion to one. And then

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Speaker 8: with deregulation, because there's a lot of sort of regulations

671
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Speaker 8: that don't ultimately serve the public good, we need to

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Speaker 8: free the builds of.

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Speaker 12: America to build.

674
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Speaker 8: And if we do that, that means I think we

675
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Speaker 8: can get the economic growth to be maybe three four percent,

676
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Speaker 8: maybe five percent. And that means if you can get

677
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Speaker 8: a trillion dollars economic growth and you cut the budget

678
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Speaker 8: deficit by a trillion between now and next year, there

679
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Speaker 8: is no inflation. There's no inflation in twenty six And

680
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Speaker 8: if the government is not borrowing as much, it means that.

681
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Speaker 12: Interest costs a client.

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Speaker 8: So everyone's the mortgage, their car payment, their credit card bills, anything,

683
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Speaker 8: their student debt, the multi payments drop. That's a fantastic

684
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Speaker 8: scenario for the average American. I mean, you think they're

685
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Speaker 8: going down the grocery out and the prices for one

686
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Speaker 8: year to the next are the same, and they're and

687
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Speaker 8: they're they're they're mortgage all the debt payments dropped.

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Speaker 12: How great is that for the arriage American.

689
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Speaker 13: We had no idea, we had no idea what we're

690
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Speaker 13: going to find this much and it's open. It's it's

691
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Speaker 13: not like complicated, it's not simple. It's like you can't

692
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Speaker 13: believe it. A lot of work, a lot of smart

693
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Speaker 13: people involved, very very smart people. But uh, it's you're

694
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Speaker 13: talking about anywhere maybe five hundred billion dollars.

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Speaker 11: It's crazy the kind of numbers.

696
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Speaker 12: Yes, crazy.

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Speaker 13: You know, normally when you're looking at something, you'll find

698
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Speaker 13: you're looking for one out of one hundred. Here you're

699
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Speaker 13: almost reversing it. You look for one that's good and

700
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Speaker 13: you can look at the title and you say, why

701
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Speaker 13: are we doing this? Why are we doing that? And

702
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Speaker 13: the public gets it. You know, the public gets it.

703
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 13: You've seen the pulse. The public is saying, why are

704
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Speaker 13: we paying all this money? This is for years, this

705
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Speaker 13: has gone on. Yeah, go ahead, wait, go ahead.

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Speaker 15: Senator Rampaul today said that Doge cuts will ultimately need

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Speaker 15: a vote in Congress.

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Speaker 4: Do you agree with that?

709
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Speaker 11: Is that the I really don't know. I know this.

710
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Speaker 13: We're finding tremendous fraud and tremendous abuse. If I need

711
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Speaker 13: a vote of Congress to find fraud and abuse, it's

712
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Speaker 13: fine with me. I think we'll get the vote, although

713
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Speaker 13: there'll be some people that wouldn't vote.

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Speaker 11: And how could a.

715
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Speaker 13: Judge want to hold us back from finding all of

716
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Speaker 13: this fraud and finding all of this incompetence? Why would

717
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Speaker 13: that happen? Why would even Congress want to do that? Now, Congress,

718
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Speaker 13: if we do need a vote, I think we get

719
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Speaker 13: a very easy vote because we have a track record.

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Speaker 11: Now, we've already found.

721
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Speaker 13: Billions of dollars of abuse, in competence and corruption, a

722
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Speaker 13: lot of corruption.

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Speaker 14: If a judge does block one of your policies part

724
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Speaker 14: of your agenda, will you abide by that ruling?

725
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Speaker 1: Will you call?

726
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Speaker 11: I always would buy it by the courts, and then

727
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Speaker 11: I'll have to appeal it.

728
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Speaker 13: But then what he's done is he slowed down the momentum,

729
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Speaker 13: and it gives crooked pece people more time to cover

730
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Speaker 13: up the books.

731
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Speaker 11: You know, if a person's crooked and they get caught.

732
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Speaker 13: Other people see that, and all of a sudden it

733
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Speaker 13: becomes harder later on. So yeah, the answer is I

734
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Speaker 13: always abide by the courts, always abide by it, and

735
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Speaker 13: will appeal.

736
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Speaker 11: But appeals take a long time.

737
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Speaker 13: And I would hope that a judge, if you go

738
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Speaker 13: into a judge and you show them, here's a corrupt situation.

739
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Speaker 13: We have a check to be sent, but we found

740
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Speaker 13: it to be corrupt. Do you want us to send

741
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Speaker 13: his corrupt check to a person or do you want

742
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Speaker 13: us not to give it and give it back to

743
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Speaker 13: the taxpayer. I would hope a judge would say, don't

744
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Speaker 13: send it, give.

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Speaker 11: It back to the tax payer.

746
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Speaker 8: Yeah, if I can add to that, what we're finding

747
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Speaker 8: is thattly a bunch of the fraud is not even

748
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Speaker 8: going to Americans.

749
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Speaker 12: So I think we all agree that if there's going

750
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Speaker 12: to be should at least go to Americans.

751
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Speaker 8: But a bunch of the fraud rings that are operating

752
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Speaker 8: in the United States and taking advantage of the federal government,

753
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Speaker 8: especially in the entitlements programs, are actually foreign fraud rings.

754
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Speaker 8: They're operating other countries and actually exporting money.

755
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Speaker 12: To other countries. We should stop that.

756
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Speaker 8: And this is big nums FORBOD one hundred two hundred

757
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Speaker 8: million dollars a year. Serious, missus muss.

758
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Speaker 16: You said on x that an example of the fraud

759
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Speaker 16: that you have cited was fifty million dollars of condoms

760
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Speaker 16: was sent to Gaza. But after the fact check, this

761
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Speaker 16: apparently Gaza in Mozambique and the program was to protect

762
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Speaker 16: them against HIV. So can you correct these statements? It

763
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Speaker 16: wasn't sent to Hamas. Actually it was in to Musambique,

764
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Speaker 16: which makes sense why condoms was sent there. And how

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Speaker 16: can we make sure that all the statements that you

766
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Speaker 16: said were correct? So we can't trust what you're saying.

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Speaker 8: Well, first of all, some of the things that I

768
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Speaker 8: say will be incorrect and should be corrected. So nobody's

769
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Speaker 8: going to pout one thousand, I mean any You know,

770
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Speaker 8: we will make mistakes, but will act quickly to correct

771
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Speaker 8: any mistakes.

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Speaker 12: So, you know, if the I'm not sure we.

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Speaker 8: Should be sending fifty million dollars with the condoms anywhere. Frankly,

774
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Speaker 8: I'm not sure that's something Americans would be really excited about,

775
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Speaker 8: and that that is really an almous no recondoms you

776
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Speaker 8: think about it, But you know, if if it went

777
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Speaker 8: to Mosambek instead of cause I'm like, okay, that's not

778
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Speaker 8: as bad, but still, you know, why are we doing that?

779
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Speaker 15: Can you talk a little bit about how closely you're

780
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Speaker 15: working with agency heads as you're directing these cuts. Do

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Speaker 15: they have the how much input do agency heads have

782
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Speaker 15: when you're making these decisions.

783
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Speaker 8: Yeah, we work closely with the agency heads and yeah,

784
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Speaker 8: so so there there's a there are sort of checks

785
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Speaker 8: in place, so it's not us just going in and

786
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Speaker 8: doing things well, you know, it's it's in fundership with

787
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Speaker 8: the agency heads and uh. And I checked presently with

788
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Speaker 8: the President to make sure that you know, this is

789
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Speaker 8: this is what the President wants to happen. So you know,

790
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Speaker 8: we told almost every day and I, you know, I

791
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Speaker 8: double check things to make sure is this something miss

792
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Speaker 8: President you wanted us to do this?

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Speaker 12: We'll we'll then we'll do it. U s A U

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Speaker 12: s A.

795
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Speaker 5: I did.

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Speaker 12: As the one of your main targets.

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Speaker 9: Are you concerned at all that some of the cuts

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Speaker 9: or that's shutting that agency altogether may lead to diseases

799
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Speaker 9: or other bigger problems starting in other countries that then

800
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Speaker 9: come to.

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Speaker 12: The United States. Yeah, so that's that's an interesting example.

802
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Speaker 8: So that's something where we work closely with the State

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Speaker 8: Department and Sectyruvial and we have for example, turned on

804
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Speaker 8: funding for abola prevention and for HIV productive prevention.

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Speaker 12: That yes, correct and.

806
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Speaker 8: And well we are moving fast, so we will make mistakes,

807
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Speaker 8: but we'll also fix the mistakes very quickly.

808
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Speaker 12: So as a worthy cause, usaid.

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Speaker 8: I think that there's some worthy things. But overall, if

810
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Speaker 8: you say, what does the Bank of the Buck? I

811
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Speaker 8: would say it was not very good and there was

812
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Speaker 8: far too much of what you have said the Idea

813
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Speaker 8: was doing was influencing, influencing elections in ways that I

814
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Speaker 8: think we're.

815
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Speaker 12: Dubious and do not stand to the light of day.

816
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Speaker 8: I mean just that.

817
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Speaker 14: To follow up to the Pentagon contracts, if you have

818
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Speaker 14: received billions of dollars in contracts from the Pentagon and

819
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Speaker 14: the President's directing you to look into the Department of Defense.

820
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Speaker 12: Is that to do and are going to do at

821
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Speaker 12: the President's request?

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Speaker 11: Does that present a COMPLEXI of interest for you? Uh?

823
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Speaker 8: No, because you don't have to look at the individual

824
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Speaker 8: contract and say, first of all, I'm I'm not the

825
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Speaker 8: one you know filing the contract. It's people at SpaceX,

826
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Speaker 8: or someone will be putting for the contract. And I'd

827
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Speaker 8: like to say, if you see any contract where the

828
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Speaker 8: where it was watered to SpaceX and it wasn't by

829
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Speaker 8: far the best value for money for the taxpayer, let

830
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Speaker 8: me know, because every one of them was.

831
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Speaker 9: The President said the other day that you might look

832
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Speaker 9: at treasuries.

833
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Speaker 12: Could you explain that a little bit?

834
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Speaker 9: What kind of fraud or and that question goes to

835
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Speaker 9: both of you, what kind of fraud are you expecting

836
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Speaker 9: to see or do you see right now in US treasuries?

837
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Speaker 12: Yeah?

838
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Speaker 8: I think you mean the Treasury Department as opposed to

839
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Speaker 8: treasury bills or you also.

840
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Speaker 16: Reference treasuries on Air Force one the other night.

841
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Speaker 8: Well, the as I mentioned earlier, really, the the first

842
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Speaker 8: word of business is to make sure we're collecting sorry

843
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 8: of this that the only son might enjoy this, but

844
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Speaker 8: it's he's sticking his fingers in my ears and stuff.

845
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Speaker 8: It's but hot here sometimes hey, stuff that. So the

846
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Speaker 8: stuff we're doing with the Treasure Department is so basic

847
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Speaker 8: that you can't believe it doesn't exist already.

848
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Speaker 12: So so, for example.

849
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Speaker 8: Like I mentioned, just making sure that that when a

850
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Speaker 8: payment goes out, it has to have a payment categorization

851
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Speaker 8: coas like what type of payment is this?

852
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Speaker 12: You can't just leave the field blank.

853
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 8: Currently many payments that the field is left blank and

854
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Speaker 8: you have to describe what's the payment for some basic

855
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Speaker 8: rationalization that also is left blank. So this is why

856
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Speaker 8: you know, the Pentagon when the last time the Pentagon

857
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Speaker 8: passed an order, I mean a decade ago, maybe ever

858
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Speaker 8: really and we want to just in order to actually

859
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Speaker 8: pass orders, you have to have financial information that allows

860
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Speaker 8: you to trace the payments, so you know, and once

861
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Speaker 8: in a while the Treasury has to has to pose

862
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Speaker 8: payments if it thinks the payment is going to a

863
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Speaker 8: fraudulent organization. Like if a company or organization is on

864
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Speaker 8: it do not pay list, we should not pay it.

865
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Speaker 8: I'm sure you would agree. Like if it's quite hard

866
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Speaker 8: to get on that payment that do not pay list,

867
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Speaker 8: it means that this is someone that is it's like

868
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Speaker 8: dead people, terrorists, known fraudsters, that kind of thing. We

869
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Speaker 8: should not pay them, but currently we do, which is crazy.

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Speaker 12: We should stop that.

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Speaker 13: And by the way, hundreds thousands of transactions like that.

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Speaker 11: You know, we have a big team.

873
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Speaker 17: And for the sake of the country, I hope that

874
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Speaker 17: the person that's in charge, and the other people that

875
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Speaker 17: report to me that are in charge are allowed to

876
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Speaker 17: do the right thing, namely, make sure everything's honest, legit,

877
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Speaker 17: and competent.

878
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Speaker 13: But we're looking at just when you look at usaid

879
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Speaker 13: was that's one. We're gonna look at the military, We're

880
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 13: gonna look at education. They're much bigger areas. But the

881
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Speaker 13: USA idea is really corrupt. It's corrupt, it's incompetent, and

882
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 13: it's really corrupt. And I can't imagine a judge saying, well,

883
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Speaker 13: it may be corrupt, but you don't have the right.

884
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Speaker 13: You get elected to look over the country and to,

885
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Speaker 13: as we say, make America great again, but you don't

886
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Speaker 13: have the right to go and look and see whether

887
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Speaker 13: or not things are right that they're paying, or that

888
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 13: things are honest at their paying And nobody can even

889
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 13: believe there's other people, law professors, they've been saying, how

890
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Speaker 13: can you take that person's right away?

891
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Speaker 11: It's supposed to be running.

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Speaker 13: The country, but we're not allowed to look at who

893
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Speaker 13: they're paying it to and what they're paying. We have

894
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Speaker 13: massive amounts of fraud that we caught. I think we

895
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Speaker 13: probably caught way over a lot of billions of dollars

896
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Speaker 13: already in what two weeks to go to numbers that

897
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Speaker 13: you're not going to believe. And much as I said,

898
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Speaker 13: much is incompetence and much as dishonesty.

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Speaker 11: We have to catch it.

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Speaker 13: And the only way going to catch it is to

901
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Speaker 13: look for it. And if a judge is going to

902
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Speaker 13: say you're not allowed to look for it, that's pretty

903
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Speaker 13: sad for our country.

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Speaker 11: I don't understand how it could even work.

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 14: Can you personally guarantee that which one for the buyout

907
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Speaker 14: program to offer to federal workers? Can you personally guarantee

908
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Speaker 14: that the workers who often to resign now will be

909
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Speaker 14: paid through something.

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Speaker 13: They'll get their money, but they're getting a good deal.

911
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Speaker 13: They're getting a big buy out. And what we're trying

912
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Speaker 13: to do is reduce government. We have too many people.

913
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Speaker 13: We have office space, it's occupied by four percent. Nobody's

914
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Speaker 13: showing it to work because they were told not to.

915
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Speaker 13: And then Biden gave them a five year pass some

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Speaker 13: of them, forty eight thousand of them, gave them a

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Speaker 13: five year pass that for.

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Speaker 11: Five years, you don't have to show up to work.

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Speaker 13: And let me tell you, this is largely munch of

920
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Speaker 13: this stuff is because of Biden.

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Speaker 11: It's his fault. He allowed this country.

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Speaker 13: What he did on our border, what he did around

923
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Speaker 13: border is almost not as bad as what he did.

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Speaker 13: With all of these contracts that have come out. It's

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Speaker 13: a very sand day when we look at it.

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Speaker 11: I can't even believe it.

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Speaker 13: But many contracts just extend, and they just keep extending,

928
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Speaker 13: and there was nobody there had correct it, and that

929
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Speaker 13: cannot be I can't imagine that could be held up

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Speaker 13: by the court, any court that would say that the

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Speaker 13: President or his representatives like Secretary of the Treasury, Secretary

932
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Speaker 13: of State, whatever, doesn't have the right to go over

933
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Speaker 13: there books and make sure everything's honest. I mean, how

934
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Speaker 13: can you have a country. You can't have anything that way,

935
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Speaker 13: you can't have a business that way, you can't have

936
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Speaker 13: a country that way.

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Speaker 11: Thank you very much, everybody. Thank you.

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Speaker 13: Will be at the White House tonight at about ten

939
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Speaker 13: o'clock if you want to come over, you can SAILO.

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Speaker 11: Though not much. No, they were very we were treated

941
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Speaker 11: very nicely by Russia. Actually, I hope that's the.

942
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Speaker 13: Beginning of a relationship where we can end that war

943
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Speaker 13: and millions of people can stop being killed.

944
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Speaker 11: They've lost millions of people.

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Speaker 13: They lost in terms of soldiers, probably one point five

946
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Speaker 13: million soldiers in a short period of time.

947
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Speaker 11: We got to stop that war.

948
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Speaker 13: And I'm interested primarily from the standpoint of death. We're

949
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Speaker 13: losing all those soldiers, and then other American soldiers, the

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Speaker 13: Ukrainian and Russian soldiers, but you're probably talking about a

951
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Speaker 13: million and a half.

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Speaker 11: I think I think we've got to bring that one

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Speaker 11: to an end. Okay, thank you, thank you. Ten o'clock

954
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Speaker 11: the night of the way, I see a.

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Speaker 3: Guys, all right, we were just listening into President Trump

956
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Speaker 3: there mentioning about Mark Foegel, who he is saying is

957
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Speaker 3: going to be at the White House at ten pm tonight,

958
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Speaker 3: negotiated with the Kremlin to be able to bring him

959
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Speaker 3: back to the United States and did the press conference

960
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Speaker 3: there that.

961
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Speaker 4: He was hosting with Elon Musk. Very interesting to see there.

962
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Speaker 2: Bill, Yeah, lots of comments from Elon Musk. I'm sure

963
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Speaker 2: we'll talk about them in the days to come, but

964
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Speaker 2: a lot of Elon Musk. They are a lot of

965
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Speaker 2: interesting soundbites that I think we'll be talked about for

966
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Speaker 2: days to come.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely.

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Speaker 3: Now, welcome back to Special Report with Tax season upon us.

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Speaker 3: Many feel unprepared and are not sure where to turn

970
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Speaker 3: for help. Tax Network USA spokesperson Cameron Kinsey joins us

971
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Speaker 3: to give us some answers.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back to the show, Cameron, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Cameron, good to see you.

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Speaker 2: Can you tell us a little bit about Tax Network

975
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Speaker 2: USA and what services you offer to our viewers?

976
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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: Absolutely, I mean we're not just about filing taxes. Where

978
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Speaker 7: your defense against the embolden IRS that we saw under

979
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Speaker 7: the previous administration. We saw, of course, the eighty billion

980
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Speaker 7: dollars in funding that they received, the eighty seven thousand

981
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Speaker 7: IRS agents that were hired, and luckily we've seen that

982
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Speaker 7: turnaround under President Trump. But the IRS basically has ramped

983
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Speaker 7: up its audits on middle class families, on small business owners,

984
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Speaker 7: a lot of people like our viewers watching today, So

985
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Speaker 7: we basically, oh, looks.

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Speaker 3: Like we have lost Cameron there for a moment, but

987
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Speaker 3: I know she will definitely be back. She's one of

988
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Speaker 3: our favorites on the show. We always love hearing from Cameron.

989
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 2: Well, while, yeah, while we are waiting to see if

990
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Speaker 2: we get Cameron back or perhaps someone else will join us.

991
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Speaker 2: But Emily, what were your takeaways from that presser right

992
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Speaker 2: there with President Trump and Elon Musk, It's it's more

993
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Speaker 2: seeing Elon Musk in the Oval office is certainly interesting.

994
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Speaker 1: He had a son on him like he does typically.

995
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Speaker 1: Something I took away.

996
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Speaker 2: They're talking about the deficit and trying to get to

997
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Speaker 2: cut the deficit in half, and he used two words

998
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 2: that stuck out to me, competence and caring. If you

999
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Speaker 2: can get competence in caring, you can cut the deficit

1000
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Speaker 2: in half.

1001
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Speaker 1: When have we ever talked about that?

1002
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Speaker 2: But since we are talking about confidence carrying and financials,

1003
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Speaker 2: let's get back to Cameron Kensei, who I think has

1004
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:50,319
Speaker 2: rejoined us. Cameron, we were just talking about Elon Musk

1005
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 2: being in the Oval Office and a lot of financial

1006
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 2: things that we're speaking about, and so we might as

1007
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Speaker 2: well get our financial discussion back to tax netwhere you

1008
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 2: tax Network USA, and you were telling us how tax

1009
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 2: Network you say, can help the average viewer and how

1010
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Speaker 2: audits are sometimes coming to the middle class.

1011
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Speaker 5: Yeah.

1012
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 7: Absolutely, And we're just basically here to protect what you've learned.

1013
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 7: We gather your financial details, find every legal deductible, minimize

1014
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 7: your tax liability, to keep the irs out of your pocket,

1015
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Speaker 7: but really doesn't just stop there with us. If the

1016
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Speaker 7: IRS comes knocking, we've got your back. We defend you

1017
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Speaker 7: against these audits and fight to make sure that the

1018
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Speaker 7: government doesn't take more than it's fair share.

1019
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Speaker 3: Cameron, can you explain for us how your tax preparation

1020
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Speaker 3: services work?

1021
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Speaker 8: Yes?

1022
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:37,839
Speaker 7: Absolutely, So we gather your financial details, find basically every

1023
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 7: legal deduction, all the necessary documents that we need, you know,

1024
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Speaker 7: your income, things of that nature. It's pretty much standard procedure,

1025
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Speaker 7: just to make sure that we can build a solid

1026
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Speaker 7: defense for the IRS, and then make sure that we

1027
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:54,760
Speaker 7: are a liaison in this process so you're not waiting

1028
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 7: on hold for hours talking to them yourself. You do

1029
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 7: have a team of experts. You're in your corner for that.

1030
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 2: And Cameron and I hear that you're never supposed to

1031
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:05,240
Speaker 2: call the IRS, that that would be a big mistake.

1032
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 2: So I people want to get started with textent and

1033
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Speaker 2: were QSA. They're newbies, they've never heard of you before,

1034
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 2: but they really need help. What's the process like, how

1035
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 2: do you onboard them?

1036
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Speaker 5: Oh?

1037
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely, Uh, we handle everything from start to finish,

1038
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:20,360
Speaker 7: basically just giving you that peace of mind in financial security,

1039
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 7: and it's very easy to get started with us. You

1040
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:24,879
Speaker 7: can call us at one eight hundred nine zero five

1041
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 7: eight zero zero zero to talk to a member of

1042
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 7: our team directly, or if you would like to just

1043
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 7: go to our website, you can visit TNUSA dot com

1044
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 7: slash rav again, that's TNUSA dot com slash rav. You

1045
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 7: fill out a quick little form and then somebody from

1046
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Speaker 7: our team will reach out.

1047
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Speaker 3: How long does the process typically take from the initial

1048
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:47,280
Speaker 3: consultation to the resolution of tax issues?

1049
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Speaker 7: Yeah, it really just depends on the case, but most

1050
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 7: are resolved within a few months to a year. I

1051
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 7: would say, I mean the IRS has been moving faster

1052
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 7: now because you know, they've been desperate. Their days are

1053
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Speaker 7: numbered with this new executive leadership as we've seen, so

1054
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Speaker 7: you know, with the election behind us and in Trump

1055
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Speaker 7: in office, they've really been caught scrambling and you know,

1056
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Speaker 7: to enforce before their power slips. But I would say

1057
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Speaker 7: anywhere from six.

1058
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Speaker 4: Months to a year.

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Speaker 2: Let's hope Doge find some waste, fraud and abuse in

1060
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Speaker 2: the IRS as well?

1061
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Speaker 1: Cameron right here here to.

1062
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Speaker 2: That, can you provide some examples of successful tax leaf cases?

1063
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Speaker 2: Just give me throughout some numbers of money you've been

1064
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Speaker 2: able to save your clients.

1065
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Speaker 7: Yeah, for sure. I mean we've saved our clients over

1066
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Speaker 7: a billion dollars in back taxes through negotiations, penalty reductions, offers,

1067
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Speaker 7: and compromise. For example, we recently helped a single mom

1068
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Speaker 7: and a small business owner reduced one hundred thousand dollars

1069
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:43,240
Speaker 7: in tax set to just eight thousand after the IRS

1070
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Speaker 7: misclassified her expenses. We had I think another it was

1071
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Speaker 7: a retired couple of facing losing part of their Social

1072
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Speaker 7: Security due to an IRS mistake, so we stepped in,

1073
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Speaker 7: We challenged the penalties, we got them completely removed, protecting

1074
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Speaker 7: their retirement income. So basically this can just go to

1075
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Speaker 7: show that even the IRS can be held accountable with

1076
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Speaker 7: the right team behind you.

1077
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Speaker 3: What are the benefits of working with a tax relief

1078
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Speaker 3: professional compared to battling the IRS on your own?

1079
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Speaker 4: We know that that is definitely not what you should

1080
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Speaker 4: be doing.

1081
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Speaker 7: Yeah, you don't, because the tax code is just complicated

1082
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 7: by design, and going up facing the IRS alone is

1083
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:22,840
Speaker 7: like stepping into the ring with a heavyweight, right, Like,

1084
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 7: the IRS has endless resources to pressure taxpayers, and without

1085
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 7: expert help, you're really just left at a disadvantage. Yourself.

1086
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Speaker 7: So at Tax Network USA, we know that the tax

1087
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 7: code inside and out, we negotiate far better outcomes. We

1088
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Speaker 7: reduce penalties, protect your rights along the way. We are

1089
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Speaker 7: all on the same side here, so you can focus

1090
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Speaker 7: on your life, your family, your kids, and not the irs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Cameron, I know something else that you have been

1092
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Speaker 3: working on is with confirm forty seven about all of

1093
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Speaker 3: Trump's cabinet picks.

1094
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Speaker 4: That he's trying to get confirmed.

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Speaker 1: Talk to us.

1096
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Speaker 4: About the latest with all of this.

1097
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Speaker 3: I know Tulsi Gabbard and RFK Junior closer to getting

1098
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Speaker 3: their final vote this week.

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Speaker 7: Well, yes, we are. We're very close with Tulci. I

1100
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Speaker 7: don't see them delaying there, hopefully, but we never know

1101
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Speaker 7: what's in the Democrat playbook. We have seen them stalling

1102
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Speaker 7: and obstructing, just like they did in twenty sixteen with

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Speaker 7: President Trump's nominees and who he wanted to put through.

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Speaker 7: They you know, they were challenging the background checks and

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Speaker 7: make sure they were slow rolling those as well. So

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Speaker 7: we just have to stay vigilant, keep our eye out.

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Speaker 7: Tulsi's qualifications obviously speak for themselves. She's probably overqualified for

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Speaker 7: this position, right, So it's not going to boil down

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Speaker 7: to qualifications. It's going to boil down to political theater

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Speaker 7: and seeing, you know, what they're what they can do

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Speaker 7: in order to stall this process even further. Same with

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Speaker 7: RFK Junior. We should expect a lot of pushback from

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Speaker 7: him or from Senate Democrats for him. But let me

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Speaker 7: just tell you everybody who is probably going to push

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Speaker 7: back against him. We've seen Ron Wyden, We've seen Elizabeth Warren,

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Speaker 7: Bernie Sanders. They've all taken millions and millions of dollars

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Speaker 7: from big pharmacy. So you definitely have to follow the

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Speaker 7: money in this instance when it comes to that, and

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Speaker 7: just keep your eye out for those two and make

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Speaker 7: sure that they're not pushing these smear campaigns any further.

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Speaker 7: And I do believe in my heart that the American

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Speaker 7: people see right through it.

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Speaker 2: And Cameron, just real quick five seconds. Do you think

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Speaker 2: it's a yes on RFK and Tulsi in the end?

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Speaker 16: I do?

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Speaker 8: I do?

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Speaker 3: Okay, Rtim Cameron, thank you so much for being on

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