1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:02,640 Speaker 1: Can't. If I am six forty you're listening to the 2 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: John and Ken Show on demand on the iHeartRadio app. 3 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: There's a drama going on in DC a closed door 4 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: meeting with his conference today and Kevin McCarthy, Republican representative California, 5 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: also Speaker of the House, basically came out Firron and 6 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: he dared some of the Freedom caucussers to come at 7 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: me bro try to take him out. Matt Gaetz has said, listen, 8 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: we're gonna you know, we can call for your we 9 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: can call for your chair, and he said just try 10 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: it now. When he was not behind closed doors, he 11 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: was a little more diplomatic about how he said that, 12 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: but it was still basically what he said. 13 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 2: Try. 14 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 3: It's don't matter. And sometimes people do those things because 15 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 3: of personal things, and that's all fine, And I don't 16 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 3: walk away from a battle. I knew changing Washington would 17 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 3: not be easy. I knew people would fight or try 18 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 3: to hold leverage for other things. I'm going to continue 19 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 3: to just to focus on what's the right thing to 20 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 3: do for the American people. And you know what, if 21 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:06,639 Speaker 3: it takes a fight, I'll. 22 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 4: Have a fight. 23 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: Our ABC News correspondent in Washington is Ike Jochi and 24 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: Ike great to talk with you. The battle here seems 25 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: to be about the upcoming budget. 26 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 4: Showdown, it really is. And you know, tensions between McCarthy 27 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 4: and the House Freedom Caucus, they really haven't been this 28 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 4: high since we saw them take fifteen rounds to vote 29 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 4: in McCarthy as Speaker of the House. Now you say 30 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 4: it right now. The cranks of all this is that 31 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 4: looming government shutdown. House has about until September thirtieth and 32 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 4: midnight to come up with a funding plan that will 33 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 4: fund the government. If not, we run the risk again 34 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 4: of another government shutdown. But this is what we're starting 35 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 4: to see. We will essentially warn this before when McCarthy 36 00:01:55,800 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 4: took the seat that his ascension to the role of 37 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 4: House Speaker of a House came with some caveats. Those 38 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 4: caveats obviously came from the House Freedom Caucus, and it's 39 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 4: that motion to vacate, which essentially allows anybody to come 40 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 4: out and send out a vote to the whole House 41 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 4: that would allow a single member to essentially vote on 42 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 4: his removal and it only needs to come to a 43 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 4: simple majority for it to pass. And we saw a 44 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 4: reprigen rid of the gate come out and say that 45 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 4: publicly that McCarthy is not doing his job, reminding him 46 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 4: of what his job is essentially but Freedom Caucus's demand, 47 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 4: and that he'd be forced to essentially trigger that motion 48 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 4: to vacate if McCarthy doesn't quickly reverse his ways. 49 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: So there's a difference between getting things done and then 50 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: playing politics, and there's sort of this fine line that 51 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:55,679 Speaker 1: everyone walks. I got to believe that the Democrats in 52 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 1: DC right now are sort of loving the infighting. They 53 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: they watch all fifteen rounds of the speaker vote go down, 54 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:05,359 Speaker 1: and of course the Democrats didn't cross over and try 55 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: to help the Republicans out of that mess. If if 56 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: a vote were to come to the floor, I got 57 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: to believe the Democrats would say, yeah, well, we'll vote 58 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 1: to remove Kevin McCarthy. We love watching the chaos our 59 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 1: from our partners across the aisle. Is there any word 60 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: that there are Republicans that are saying, hang on here, guys, 61 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 1: we're giving the Democrats a gift. 62 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 4: No. Essentially, what we're seeing right now is the Freedom Caucus, 63 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 4: those thirty five members essentially of those far right Republicans 64 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 4: really take control of this entire caucus, and we're not 65 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 4: really seeing too much essentially of Republicans trying to correct 66 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 4: the ship. We are seeing Democrats, however, point their fingers 67 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 4: with the Keen Jeffries essentially pointing their finger at Republicans 68 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 4: saying they're holding the legislation that was from the government. 69 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 4: But in terms of Republicans right now, we're seeing Kevin 70 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 4: McCarthy try to essentially pump his chest saying he's not 71 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 4: worry about this and try to really pretend as if 72 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 4: there's nothing happening. Then essentially this caucus has until again 73 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 4: September thirty, at the end of the month, to really 74 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 4: figure out some kind of bill to find government. 75 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: Aike Ajachi is my guest ABC News correspondent Washington, DC, 76 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: as Kevin McCarthy has basically said to the Freedom Caucus, 77 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 1: you know, I'm ready for your fight, whatever that might be. 78 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: The Freedom Caucus does have a list of demands. Are 79 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: they likely to compromise on anything. This is a group 80 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: that is sort of run on the premise that compromises weakness, 81 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 1: and they don't even want to seem to compromise within 82 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: their own party. 83 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 4: No, they've been very really staunch in what they're looking for. 84 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 4: They're very these concerned hard liners. They really want essentially 85 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 4: to have all their demands met. What is that, Well, 86 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 4: essentially they're looking to attach to that Defense Hunting bill 87 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 4: a measure that won't that will restrict certain kinds of 88 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 4: care for for women in the military. Obviously, there's other 89 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 4: measures they want in terms of weaponizing the DOJ. There's issues, 90 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 4: there's issues they want to take care of along those lines. Obviously, 91 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 4: there are hard right lines they've been saying time and 92 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 4: time again, those same lines McCarthy had to face when 93 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:21,559 Speaker 4: he tried to attain that speakership. They're demanding those again, 94 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 4: and they are threatening that motion to vacate if their 95 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 4: wishes are on them. 96 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 1: Well, I'd love to be a fly in all kinds 97 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 1: of walls in Washington right now and just see what 98 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: the conversations are behind closed doors. Is the Freedom Caucus 99 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 1: really ready to go full scorched Earth or other Republicans 100 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 1: that are willing to come out And you know, we 101 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: saw people getting each other's faces during those votes back 102 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 1: in January over who is going to be the speaker. 103 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: So I'm really curious just to see how this ends 104 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: up playing out. And I like, what's the next step. 105 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: I mean, are they are we gonna have are we 106 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: gonna have votes, We're gonna have some conferences. Are we 107 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: gonna be able to press forward and a more amicable tone, 108 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: or are we headed toward a fight in the House 109 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 1: right now? 110 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 4: One point, we're heading toward a fight. We're seeing a 111 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 4: House Minority leader Hakeem Jefferies essentially call the Republicans bill 112 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 4: that they got forward a non starter, obviously again to 113 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 4: what our referenced to before, saying that it's essentially restricting 114 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 4: reproductive choices from many military women in their families. So 115 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:31,919 Speaker 4: Hakeem Jeffries is calling for a bipartisan approach to this 116 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 4: spending bill. We're hearing no word of any kind of 117 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 4: acquiescence from Republicans to consider some credit measure. Again, they're 118 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 4: going to have us figure out a way to pass 119 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 4: this bill, which means going head to head with that 120 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 4: Freedom Caucus, those thirty five members of the Republican Party 121 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 4: that are again laying out their demands for McCarthy to 122 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 4: act upon. 123 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: Is there room in the middle we have to have 124 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 1: a spending bill. It sounds like you got thirty five 125 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 1: people in the on the hard right that are going 126 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: to say, we're not signing anything that doesn't give us 127 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 1: all of our demands. Obviously, that bill is not going 128 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: to pass because you've got a Democrat controlled Senate and 129 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: a Democrat in the White House, so that's not going 130 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: to happen. Is there room for McCarthy to negotiate with 131 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: the Republicans who are not in that Freedom Caucus and 132 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: maybe some of the Democrats, maybe not the squad, but 133 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: some of the more moderate Democrats. Is there room in 134 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: the middle, Is there a lane that can be occupied 135 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: there in the center? 136 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 4: Well, there's always room for bipartisanship here in the House. 137 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 4: But that's going that Behoo's McCarthy to either reach across 138 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 4: the aisle to Democrats or try to make sure that 139 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 4: enough Republicans don't flip to offense that remove him from 140 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 4: the post. But that obviously would be very hard due 141 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 4: to the thirty five member Freedom Caucus. That would essentially 142 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 4: kip the scales and force McCarthy to essentially give up 143 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 4: his post. But again, he's going to have to find 144 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 4: a way to talk to the Freedom Focus members to 145 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 4: see if they can either back down from their requests 146 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 4: or somehow McCarthy can move forward with some of their requests, 147 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 4: all while appeasing the rest of this party, but remains 148 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 4: to be seen as right now, we're just seeing McCarthy 149 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 4: still trying to defend himself in what seems like a 150 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 4: possible mutiny and Republican party. 151 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 152 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: I just see a lot of people playing with fire 153 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: right now, and I think the American people are going 154 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: to start getting frustrated as we get closer and closer 155 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: to the end of the month. Aikeajashi, it's always great 156 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 1: catching up with you. Thank you for your hard work 157 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: on this. I appreciate it. Yeah, we'll we'll talk about 158 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:43,839 Speaker 1: what is being called the biggest antitrust case in the 159 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: modern Internet, because somebody's I guess deciding when the modern 160 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: Internet began, and that I guess was sometime after y 161 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: two k I'll tell you what they're doing with this case, 162 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: why it's going to take so dagone long, and why 163 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: it could mean that everything you're doing on your phone 164 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: is about to change. That's next. I'm Chris Merril. I 165 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 1: am six forty. We're live everywhere in your iHeartRadio app. 166 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 5: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 167 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:14,719 Speaker 5: am six forty, so Google. 168 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: Be ensued by justice because they're too big. I hate 169 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 1: it when that happens. The one of the shortcomings of 170 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: our capitalist society is that we have these checks and 171 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: balances and basically say, if you're too good, we're gonna 172 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 1: have to step in. If you are too great at 173 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: what you do, we're gonna have to intervene. It's it's 174 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 1: all in an effort to keep things fair, right, But 175 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:47,079 Speaker 1: I don't disagree with it. It's just a strange thing 176 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: that we have going on. If we look at our 177 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 1: economic system as a sport, in what sport do we 178 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: penalize a team for having a player that's too good? Right? 179 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:03,319 Speaker 1: We don't tell. We didn't tell people playing those incredible 180 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: New England Patriots of days past that well, they have 181 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: Tom Brady. He's really good. So we're gonna let your 182 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:12,719 Speaker 1: team start thirteen people on defense because he's too He's 183 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 1: the greatest of all time. So we have to try 184 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: to even the playing field. We've never done that, but 185 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: of course there's reason for it, and that is that 186 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: if you become too good and you squeeze out all competition, 187 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: then you pretty much have a rule of the way 188 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 1: the business is done, and that's the concern with Google. Now. 189 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 1: The funny thing is with the Google anti trust suit here. 190 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:39,319 Speaker 1: Back in the old days, they never even would have 191 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: been allowed to get this big. There would have been 192 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: clamps put on sooner. But then back in then, not 193 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: as old days, but still longer ago than what we'd 194 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: like to admit days, we would have said, well, Google 195 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: is too big to fail, and then we would have 196 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 1: propped up their business and we would have given them 197 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: bailouts and tax breaks. But now we're saying that they're 198 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: too big, but not that big. So why is Google 199 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: being sued? It all comes down to Google being too 200 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: good and being what the smart people call ubiquitous. It's everywhere. 201 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 6: Hitting the US government against tech giant Google began today. 202 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 6: It's the Justice Department's biggest anti trust case against the 203 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 6: tech company in more than twenty years. The DOJ in 204 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 6: fourteen states accused the company of illegally monopolizing web searching, 205 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 6: which Google strongly denies. 206 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: Right, so when is it illegal. It's illegal when you're 207 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: too big. That's basically it. 208 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 4: Here. 209 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 1: The deal is that listen, you can develop business partnerships, 210 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 1: and those partnerships can have moneies paid for consideration. That's great, 211 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:50,319 Speaker 1: But if you're really big, then we're going to say 212 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: that that's illegal. And that is the case. So the 213 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: government's been trying to reign in big tech, right, and 214 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: Google is at the forefront of the big tech. And 215 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:07,679 Speaker 1: what they're saying is that that Google basically used all 216 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: of their power to get with places like Apple and 217 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:18,439 Speaker 1: some of the others and say, look, we want to 218 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 1: be the default search engine. And so Apple says, oh, 219 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: you're going to be default search engine on on what 220 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 1: they're like on everything on your iPhones, on your your 221 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:33,439 Speaker 1: max all that other stuff. And so Apple said, oh, 222 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 1: I mean we could think about it. And Google said, well, 223 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: how about if we give you ten billion dollars to 224 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,079 Speaker 1: think about it? And Apple went, okay, we thought about it. 225 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 1: So the Justice Department is saying, well, that's not fair 226 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: because now for somebody else to get their foot in 227 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: the door, they got to come up with eleven billion dollars, right, 228 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 1: That's basically what they're saying here. And they want to 229 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: say Google is flexing their muscle in order to keep 230 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 1: others out. Some people are saying, well, Google has got 231 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: a superior product. Google's defenses our product is just better. 232 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: Part of the reason that these different companies have worked 233 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 1: with us is not just because we're paying them to, 234 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: but because our product is good and there isn't a 235 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: competitor out there that can hold a candle to it, 236 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: and that's why people want us in their devices. So 237 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 1: they had a testimony the Justice Department trying to show 238 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 1: that Google is trying to cut out their competitors by 239 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: looking to be the default search engine. So Google is saying, 240 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:31,439 Speaker 1: not only do we want to be the default search engine, 241 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 1: We're giving you money for that special consideration, but in 242 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: doing so, we're going to keep any of our rivals 243 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: from being able to gain any sort of a foothold 244 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: in the door. Funny little side note here. I was 245 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 1: looking at the story and I've been following it for 246 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 1: a few days, and the New York Times had a 247 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:49,959 Speaker 1: headline I want to say it was over the weekend. Yeah, 248 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: I guess over the weekend late last week said it's 249 00:13:54,720 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: the first monopoly trial of modern Internet era. US sets 250 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 1: sits on Google. That's the headline. They said. The ten 251 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: week trial is set to begin Tuesday, which, of course 252 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: it did amps up efforts to rain in big tech 253 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: by targeting the core search business that turned Google into 254 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: a one point seven trillion dollar behemoth. All right, but 255 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: here's what I think is funny. They call it the 256 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 1: first monopoly trial of the modern Internet era, and they're 257 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: all comparing it then to the trial that landed Microsoft 258 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: in court back in nineteen ninety eight for antitrust because 259 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 1: Microsoft was distributing their Internet Explorer with all of their Windows, 260 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: and they basically made it the default search engine for 261 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: everything that was Microsoft, and Microsoft was a behemoth. I 262 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: would even argue bigger than Google as far as saturation 263 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: back in the late nineties. For whatever reason, I guess 264 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: the New York Times has decided that that is not 265 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: the modern Internet era. That must be antiquity in Internet terms. 266 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 1: I'd just like to know when the modern Internet era began? 267 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: Is that post y two K? Was that after the iPhone? 268 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: I'm just curious how they just they chose their phrasing. Hey, look, 269 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: it is great to be buddies with the DA because oftentimes, 270 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 1: not only do your your you're less than appropriate incidents, 271 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: not only are they forgiven, sometimes you even get paid 272 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: for it. We'll dive into what's going on from the 273 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: DA's office that's next. I'm Chris Merrild' KFI AM six forty. 274 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: We're live everywhere on your iHeartRadio app. 275 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 5: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 276 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:43,239 Speaker 5: AM sixty. 277 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: Can imagine that you are out with your partner and 278 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: you have a few drinks, feeling pretty good. Your partner 279 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: decides to drive. You're a passenger and you take off, 280 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: but then you get pulled over. You get pulled over, 281 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 1: and you, being smart, you start telling your partner you 282 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: don't have to answer their questions, you don't have to 283 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: take field sobriety test, you don't have to do anything. 284 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: And then, because you're so smart, you get out and 285 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: you start arguing with the officers and you start asking 286 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 1: about about their body cams and what they're doing, and 287 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 1: you become somewhat belligerent. Well, the officers they say to you, 288 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: you know what, you look like. You are drunk, and 289 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: now you're in public and you're arguing with us, So 290 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: we're gonna arrest you for public intoxication. But you're smart, 291 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: You're so smart, and they release you the next day. 292 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: You're not charged, and so what do you do. You decide, 293 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: I'm going to sue them and then you get a nice, 294 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: big fat settlement. I believe that I got things laid 295 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: out in the right order there. Blake Trolly is our 296 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 1: KFI news reporter with the story. And it's not just 297 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: a smart listener doing this. This is somebody who's got 298 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: a pretty high position in the DA's office. 299 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:05,199 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's right. Chris La County DA Gascon's chief of 300 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 7: staff has been awarded ten thousand dollars for what he 301 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 7: says is being wrongfully arrested by an Azusa Police officer 302 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 7: back in twenty twenty one. The only part I'd say 303 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 7: you might have gotten wrong is that ten thousand dollars 304 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 7: goes a long way in southern California anymore. Otherwise, you 305 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 7: laid out a decent play by play there. 306 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 1: So yeah. 307 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 7: Joseph Nigez says that police's false reports on him have 308 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 7: caused him embarrassment and emotional harm. All of this centers 309 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:35,360 Speaker 7: on a traffic stop on an evening in twenty twenty one. 310 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:38,120 Speaker 7: The officer pulled over his now husband while the two 311 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:42,400 Speaker 7: were traveling home from another prosecutor's wedding. According to Azusa Police, 312 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 7: Joseph and Egas during this stop got out of the car, 313 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 7: told his now husband not to cooperate with the investigation 314 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 7: and that he did not need to comply with a 315 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 7: field sobriety test. And he also apparently told his husband, 316 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 7: according to police, not to believe anything officers were saying. 317 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 7: Officers say, he gets smelled like alcohol, he was slurring 318 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:05,880 Speaker 7: his words, so they arrested him for alleged public intoxication. 319 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 7: Now he was released about three hours later. The case 320 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 7: was referred to the state. You could clearly see how 321 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 7: this one probably shouldn't have gone to the county and 322 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 7: state prosecutors never did pursue any charges against Joseph Anigaz. 323 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 7: His husband's blood alcohol content and I think this is 324 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 7: an important part of this story was actually found to 325 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 7: be below the legal limit, so there were no charges 326 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 7: brought there. Well, today I caught up with the Mayor 327 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 7: of Azusa, Robert Gonzalez, who says, this settlement and we'll 328 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 7: go to this bite is in no way the city 329 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 7: or the police department admitting any wrongdoing. 330 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:54,439 Speaker 1: So there we go. 331 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 2: We are to set the example an inclusive of our staff. 332 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 2: You know, the City of Azusa's staff at all times 333 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 2: should act professional. And I think that any elected bodies. 334 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:10,640 Speaker 2: Staff should always act in a professional manner, regardless of 335 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 2: if it's off the clock or on. You should always 336 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 2: conduct yourself as representation of the election official that you 337 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 2: represent or the office that you represent. 338 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,679 Speaker 7: So there he is further saying that he's disappointed in 339 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 7: this conduct, and he said, you know, he saw this 340 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 7: getting very expensive in court, the back and forth, and 341 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:31,199 Speaker 7: he said, the only people that are going to get 342 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 7: rich during all of this are the lawyers. So he 343 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 7: decided that, you know, or at least the city decided 344 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:39,919 Speaker 7: that the best business decision for it, according to the city, 345 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:43,680 Speaker 7: was to pay out this this ten thousand dollars. Now, 346 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:47,919 Speaker 7: Niguez again says he was arrested, he thinks in retaliation 347 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 7: for filming the encounter. He says that he was loosen 348 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 7: in calm. He says that he as you hear their 349 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:58,360 Speaker 7: videotape this encounter, but he has yet to release that video. So, 350 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 7: you know, some questions still remain as to the actual incident. 351 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 7: And I think if everybody was able to get a 352 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 7: good look at it, you know, the court of public 353 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 7: opinion could probably make a you know, a stronger case 354 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 7: for itself on this. 355 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, Blake Trolley from the KFI newsroom joining us. We 356 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:18,160 Speaker 1: talk about the chief of staff for Da Gascone's office 357 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 1: who was arrested for public intoxication. No charges were ever 358 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 1: brought about for either him or his partner, who was 359 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 1: pulled over in the first place under suspicion of drinking 360 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: and driving, but his blood alcohol level was below the limit, 361 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 1: as Blake just laid out here. But then and then 362 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 1: the lawsuit that followed and he sues the city of Azusa. 363 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: What is he suing for for for the police. 364 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 7: Yeah, he's saying that all of this cause well, really 365 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 7: what the lawsuit centers on is that he was arrested wrongfully. 366 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 7: He alleges for in retal for filming the entire encounter, 367 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 7: and he says all of this has caused him embarrassment 368 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 7: and has caused him emotional distress. So that's really what 369 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 7: the lawsuits centered on. The city says it was prepared 370 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 7: to fight this, but I really think the city, I mean, 371 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 7: as the city's described to me, really just didn't want 372 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 7: to take on this legal battle. I think that that 373 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 7: legal battle in some ways would have been you know, 374 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:27,120 Speaker 7: a lot more would have come forward had it gone there, 375 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 7: you know, to trial. But you know here we are. 376 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, So I'm curious as to how that would have 377 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: played out with you or I if we were arrested 378 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 1: and then we filed a lawsuit and said that it 379 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: was retaliatory. Would the City of Azusa fight with us? 380 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: Or I mean, would they write us a ten thousand 381 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 1: dollars settlement, which again would pay you know, a month's rent, 382 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,360 Speaker 1: or would it would they have fought if it were 383 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,360 Speaker 1: you were I In other words, does this guy get 384 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: a pass because of the high profile nature of his position? 385 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 7: Well, the optics of this are certain questionable, especially I 386 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 7: mean even though yeah, they did send this case up 387 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 7: to the state, as it's been reported, I mean, even then, 388 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:11,439 Speaker 7: you know, there's there's some optics questions there right between 389 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:16,439 Speaker 7: the state prosecutors and the county prosecutors. You've got a 390 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 7: state attorney general and an LA County attorney general who 391 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 7: politically are pretty aligned. So I think the optics of 392 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,880 Speaker 7: this one definitely are questionable to the public, and it's 393 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 7: up for people to decide. Again, I think if this 394 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 7: had gone to court, just a little analysis here for 395 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 7: the City of Azusa, you know, the city may have 396 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 7: been able to lay out a case or at least 397 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 7: more evidence as to why he was arrested back in 398 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 7: twenty twenty one. But I think the city really just 399 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 7: wants to put this whole thing behind it, and that's 400 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:48,400 Speaker 7: where we are. 401 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, probably because fighting the case would cost him more 402 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 1: than ten thousand dollars in attorney fees and you know, 403 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:56,640 Speaker 1: the time that their officers would have to be there 404 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: in the court and everything else. So I get the best. 405 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 7: One thing and one thing to think about, Chris. This 406 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:05,439 Speaker 7: actually is a case where apparently at some point during 407 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 7: this encounter he had pointed out that the officers were 408 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 7: not wearing body warn cameras. You know, another little piece 409 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 7: of a possible analysis this year. It was that why 410 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 7: the city really didn't want this to go to trial 411 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,719 Speaker 7: is that they wouldn't have had any recordings of this. 412 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:22,919 Speaker 7: Maybe they do, maybe they don't, But you know, that 413 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 7: was something I was thinking about as well, is if 414 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 7: they had body warn cameras, you know, maybe the city 415 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 7: would have been more in tune with going to trial 416 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 7: over this one. 417 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,640 Speaker 1: It's funny, this one really comes home hard since bodycams 418 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 1: became popular. I don't know what ten years ago or 419 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 1: something I said at the time, Remember there was controversy 420 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: over whether or not officers should wear those things to 421 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,160 Speaker 1: begin with, and I said, listen, I love body cams 422 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: because they protect good people from bad cops, and they 423 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: protect good cops from bad lawyers. And this seems to 424 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,400 Speaker 1: be one of those cases that it sure still sure 425 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 1: hits home hard when you've got an attorney who's suing 426 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: because there's no body cam, and bodycam could have been 427 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: exonerating evidence, I suppose if they had their own set 428 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 1: to that argument, Blake. One other side of this, too, 429 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,640 Speaker 1: is that in the lawsuit, it alleges that Amigas suffered 430 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 1: sleeplessness and debilitating anxiety, so he evidently could not have 431 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 1: cut it as a reporter because I know that every 432 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: night our reporters face sleeplessness and debilitating anxiety. Oh there's 433 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: another there's another natural disaster. I have to go cover 434 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 1: it now in the middle of the night. I mean, 435 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:27,880 Speaker 1: how many nights have you had that. It's like, oh boy, 436 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: we got a lot on our plate today. 437 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 2: You know. 438 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm lucky to get, like I swear, good night's 439 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 7: sleep anymore is like six hours. If I get six, 440 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:36,880 Speaker 7: that's like the new eight. 441 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 1: So yeah, oh, perspective. Is everything all right? Blake, always 442 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 1: good to talk to you. Thank you so much for 443 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: your work on this, and thanks for reaching out to 444 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 1: the mayor of Azusa. There's it's good to have the 445 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 1: word on it. Yeah, yeah, you bet. Listen, we're out 446 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:58,679 Speaker 1: of the drought. Good, good, But we know we can't 447 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 1: depend on heavy rain and snowpack every year. For Pete's sake. 448 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 1: We've been fighting droughts on and off for the last 449 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: more than a decade, which is why California wants to 450 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 1: take a good hard look at the grass man. It's 451 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,120 Speaker 1: next I AM six forty, We're live everywhere and Ryanheart 452 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: Radio app. It's Chris Maryland for Johnny Can Today KFI 453 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:21,360 Speaker 1: AM six forty more stimulating talk. Well, we've seen the 454 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: drought come and go, which is great. I'm glad that 455 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 1: it's gone right now. Is there any doubt it's coming back? No? 456 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: I think that if we are being honest, and unfortunately 457 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 1: some people like to argue that everything's fine, everything's fine, 458 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 1: everything's fine. We can't put our heads in the sand 459 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 1: on this. The water is going away and there may 460 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: not be enough water one day to keep everybody showered 461 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,679 Speaker 1: in California. That day is not today, thank goodness. So 462 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 1: I'm appreciative when people are looking ahead, and I'm appreciative 463 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 1: that state legislators are saying, why don't we stop wasting water? 464 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 1: I'm so glad that we finally decided to stop wasting water. 465 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 1: Oh good. Now we actually have have implemented some water 466 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 1: conservation policies in the past, and what's happening now is 467 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 1: that the state legislature is taking it upon themselves to 468 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 1: finally codify those rules long term, and that means no 469 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:28,120 Speaker 1: more watering NFTs. Now here to explain what an NFT is, Deborah. 470 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 8: Mark, don't water your decorative grass? 471 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, what are the non functioning turf? They call that 472 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:41,120 Speaker 1: non functioning turf? It's not the non fungible tokens, right, 473 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 1: it's a different NFT. All right, So what they're what 474 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: they're gonna do is that land that's between streets. You 475 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,639 Speaker 1: know that the city owns that that median area, stop 476 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 1: watering that that land that's next to the sidewalk between 477 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 1: the sidewalk and the road, stop watering. 478 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 8: So you can just planned look, just planted succulents there, 479 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 8: say that again, just plant succulence. I know you like 480 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 8: that word succulent. 481 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 1: Put a succulent in there. Yeah, let's make this the 482 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:14,400 Speaker 1: most succulent city this side of Phoenix. Right, and problem solved, 483 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:20,440 Speaker 1: it'll be suculitious. No, I totally agree, I really do. 484 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 1: I think that. Now. Listen, there's gonna be some initial 485 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,919 Speaker 1: expense to do that, to hardescape things. But it just 486 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 1: makes an awful lot of sense, doesn't it, Because once 487 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:34,120 Speaker 1: you get through that initial expense, your maintenance is so minimal. 488 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 8: That is a nimal Hey, Chris, I think in LA 489 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 8: I think homeowners, if you take out your grass and 490 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 8: you plant succulents, you get some kind of credit. 491 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:47,199 Speaker 1: I think you get love it, Yeah, love it. 492 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 8: So it shouldn't be that expensive, shouldn't be. 493 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 4: Now. 494 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 1: Unfortunately, this band is gonna take a little while to 495 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 1: come into effect. They say the band takes effect in 496 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 1: phases between twenty twenty seven and twenty thirty one. There 497 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,159 Speaker 1: are exceptions for grass in sports fields, parks, cemeteries, and 498 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: areas used for activities and other community spaces. Also exempt 499 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 1: are areas where grass is irrigated with recycled water. Now, 500 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 1: this is important. Why do we not have more of 501 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: the recycled or reclaimed water going toward all those other places. 502 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 1: The cemeteries can be watered with reclaimed water. It's not 503 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 1: like the residents are gonna be upset that it's not 504 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: drinking water. They actually don't need drinking water six feet down. 505 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 1: You don't have to use potable water in those places. 506 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 1: Same goes for sports fields. You don't have to have 507 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: potable water. And one of the biggest water wasters in 508 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 1: America is golf courses. And I always appreciate when I 509 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 1: hear a golf course that says, listen, we are gonna 510 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 1: go to recycled water. We're watering with reclaimed water. I 511 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 1: love that more of that more. Why why is there 512 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 1: an allotment for these places to use the drinking water. 513 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: That's the water that we actually need. That's the most 514 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 1: valuable resource in the world, is the water that we 515 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 1: actually can drink. But we're saying, and that's right, we're 516 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 1: not gonna We're not gonna use it. We're not gonna 517 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: use it on those lawns between roads, We're not gonna 518 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 1: use it on those lawns by the by the sidewalks. 519 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: But you can still use it on your golf course. 520 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 1: No stop with that The good news is this bill 521 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 1: is supposed to save about ten percent of the drinking water, 522 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 1: and I'm here for it. Save ten percent of the 523 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 1: drinking water outstanding. That ten percent makes a big difference. Now, 524 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 1: let's take a look at some of these other things 525 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 1: like sports fields, golf courses, cemeteries, other community spaces. As 526 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 1: they're saying la times verbiage on this, let's fix this 527 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 1: and say nonpotable water, recycled water. If you have to 528 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 1: have grass, and it's not, there's no reason to use 529 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 1: any potable water on grass ever, ever, done, ever, never, 530 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 1: There's no reason for it. So that needs to be 531 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 1: the next step. Just use that, save all the good 532 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 1: water for us to drink and maybe your four legged 533 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 1: friends and your fish. Otherwise everything else needs to be 534 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 1: recycled and succulents exactly. Just fixed America. Again, you're welcome. 535 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 1: Huge news today, Hunter Biden is indicted on federal firearms charges. 536 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 1: This is a big one. We'll dive into how this 537 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 1: came about, what it means that is next. First to 538 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 1: check on news It's KFI AM six forty. 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