1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: Two titans of travel, MGM and Marriott International, are teaming up. 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: The deal announced today allows Bonvoy members to use points 3 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:10,719 Speaker 1: to stay at the Bollaggio and other MGM properties. MGM 4 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: Resorts International President and CEO Bill Hornbuckle and Marriott International 5 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: President and CEO Tony Kabuano join us now to discuss. So, Bill, 6 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:21,799 Speaker 1: if we could just begin with you, how exactly does 7 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: this work? Do you get to pick where your points 8 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: go to which program? 9 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 2: Look? For us, it's unprecedented in scale. 10 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 3: When you think about Bonvoy and one hundred and eighty 11 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 3: million members, you think about eighty five hundred resorts and 12 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 3: the opportunity to marry our two companies. It's a spectacular 13 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 3: opportunity to think for both of us. I think Tony's 14 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 3: actually probably better suited to talk about Bonvoy and how 15 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 3: it marries up. 16 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, so our members. 17 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 4: Bill's got about forty million members at MGM Rewards, We've 18 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 4: got about one hundred and eighty two million members, and 19 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 4: marry at Bonvoy. 20 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 2: The rewards members. 21 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 4: At MGM will have the ability to link their account 22 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 4: with Bonvoy. They'll be able to transfer points in both directions. 23 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 4: The Marriott Bonvoid members will be able to earn and 24 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 4: burn points at. 25 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 2: Bill's wonderful portfolio of resorts. 26 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 4: So it's going to create lots of opportunities for cross 27 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 4: pollination for members in both programs. 28 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 5: Gentleen, what does this do for both of your companies? 29 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 5: Just walkay through what you think the bottom line impact 30 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 5: of this is going to be. You've obviously thought through this. 31 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 5: I'm just wondering how it kind of feeds through ultimately 32 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 5: into the bottom line. 33 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 4: So maybe I'll start for us when we think about 34 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 4: growing our portfolio around the world, our strategy is relatively straightforward. 35 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 4: We want to make sure we have the right product 36 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 4: for our customers everywhere they want to go for every 37 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 4: trip purpose. Las Vegas is an extraordinarily important and compelling 38 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 4: destination for leisure, for business, certainly for group business, on 39 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:00,080 Speaker 4: both the national and the global stage. We start or 40 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 4: did our relationship with MGM with the Cosmopolitan, and our 41 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 4: customers love it. And so now the opportunity to offer 42 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 4: to those one hundred and eighty two million members the 43 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 4: wealth of options that Bill's portfolio offers, not only the 44 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 4: twelve here in Las Vegas, but in five other destinations 45 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 4: across the country is extraordinarily compelling. 46 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 2: Then you add the loyalty component. 47 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 4: That we just discussed, and the loyal and the entertainment component. 48 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 4: The richness of the entertainment and culinary offerings that Bill's 49 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 4: company controls is something that our members are just going 50 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 4: to love and for us. 51 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 3: If you think about Bondboy and at scale, Argue believe 52 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 3: the world's largest and most important loyalty program and serve 53 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 3: us to connect into that engine, to connect into the 54 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 3: loyalty side and the consumer facing front, which we've clearly 55 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 3: seen at the Cosmopolitan, but also the diversity of product. 56 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 3: If you think about rich and Bolivio and the luxury collection, 57 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 3: you think about the m GM collection inside Bonvoy, where 58 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 3: every tier of customer, whether it's behind me at New York, 59 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 3: New York all the way back up again to Blagio, 60 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:11,239 Speaker 3: can enjoy services and all that we have to offer here. 61 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 3: We think it's compelling the massive group business for both 62 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 3: of us. 63 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 5: Okay, But the interesting thing Bill. The interesting thing here though, 64 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 5: is that what we've seen thus far, and I'm curious 65 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:26,119 Speaker 5: as to who this is targeted at, business travelers come 66 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 5: back much more slowly, and I'm really interested to see 67 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 5: what's going to happen over the winter as maybe as 68 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 5: maybe the consumer side of things fades out. Is this 69 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 5: kind of is this targeted the business traveler? Is this 70 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 5: targeted a business? Is this targeted the consumer? Who is 71 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 5: who is going to be the kind of beneficiary of this? 72 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 5: And what does that tell us about the states of 73 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 5: what is happening the states of the travel industry at 74 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 5: the moment. 75 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 2: Well, the principally the leisure traveler. 76 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 3: I mean, as Tony was going on, if you think 77 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 3: about Las Vegas as a destination, experiential destination, there's none 78 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 3: like it anywhere in the world. Twenty percent of our 79 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 3: mix is convention business travel, not in a traditional sense 80 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 3: of independent business travel, but convention travel, while important, what 81 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 3: drives this community, what drives Las Vegas is leisure And 82 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 3: if you look at the past six and seven quarters, 83 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 3: Las Vegas is on fire. We continue to do well, 84 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 3: we continue to extend ourselves and if you think even 85 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 3: about most recently what's going on, particularly in the luxury segment, 86 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 3: we're doing amazingly good. 87 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 4: And yeah, and guy, I would remind you of two 88 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 4: other demand trends. Even prior to the pandemic, the leisure 89 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 4: segment was by a wide margin the most rapidly growing segment, 90 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 4: So expanding our footprint in this critical destination makes all 91 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 4: the sense in the world. Secondly, when you look at 92 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:47,479 Speaker 4: the way demand has been recovering post pandemic, the most 93 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 4: compelling and encouraging trend we've seen is the velocity with 94 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 4: which group demand has recovered. And you could argue that 95 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:59,919 Speaker 4: Las Vegas is the most interesting group destination in the US. 96 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 4: And when you look at not only the quality of 97 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 4: the resorts, but I think you have more than four 98 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 4: million square feet of meeting space within your portfolio here 99 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 4: in about a million mile and a half space, it's 100 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 4: really going to be a tremendous opportunity for our group customers. 101 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 1: Well, Tony, as you talk about the idea that demand 102 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: recovered post pandemic, and did so in quite dramatic fashion, 103 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: have you seen signs yet of that ebbing? Because we 104 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: as we emerge, you had the revenge travel dynamic. People 105 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 1: had built up their savings. Now inflation has eaten a 106 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: way at a lot of the savings that at least 107 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 1: consumers here in the US has So are you seeing 108 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: more price sensitivity and demand coming down at this point? 109 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 4: So we've got earnings The first week of August, and 110 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 4: we'll go much more granular to answer some of the 111 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 4: questions that you ask. 112 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 2: Here's what I can tell you. 113 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 4: In the first quarter, we set all time earnings records 114 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 4: for the company in its ninety six year history, and 115 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 4: the momentum we saw in that first quarter continued into April. 116 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 4: We saw RevPAR growth globally of sixteen percent in April, 117 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 4: and in our international markets that RevPAR growth was over 118 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 4: fifty percent. 119 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 2: And as we looked into the summer, we. 120 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 4: Saw pretty compelling and strong demand patterns in most of 121 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 4: our leisure destinations. So we look forward to sharing more 122 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 4: of that detail in August. But we're quite encouraged by 123 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 4: the trends that we're seeing. 124 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 3: And I would simply add in Las Vegas, the dynamic 125 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 3: has changed. 126 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 2: Two things have changed. 127 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 3: Obviously, where experiential economy comes to enjoy itself is here, 128 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 3: and so we continue to benefit from that. I think 129 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 3: you'll see that as we project forward the balance of 130 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 3: the year and then the programming. The best booking day 131 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 3: of the year we've ever had is the day that 132 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 3: Raiders announced our schedule this year. It's just systematic and 133 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 3: representative of where this destination has come from and where. 134 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 2: It's going. 135 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 5: Bill, what a higher interest rates mean for this industry? 136 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 5: Are we starting to see the effects of that coming through? 137 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 5: Kelly and I spent a lot of our time at 138 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 5: the moment talking about what is happening with the property 139 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 5: sect this industry. Your industry is close the ally to 140 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 5: what is happening there. Interest rates have gone up and 141 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 5: gone up fiercely. When do we start to see the 142 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 5: effects of that coming through? What are you seeing in 143 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 5: terms of the impact on your business right now? 144 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, in terms of go back to my earlier comment, 145 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 3: luxury segment continues to remain strong, and obviously when you 146 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 3: think about business, you think about interest rates and who 147 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 3: it might impact the most in the context of immediate 148 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 3: travel or potentially could be that group. We haven't seen 149 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 3: it as you go down the spectrum and if you 150 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 3: get into some of our regional properties. Yeah, there are 151 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 3: concerns generally speaking about where the economy may go. 152 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 2: I will tell you though, as it rates to. 153 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 3: Nineteen or where that plateau was across the company, across 154 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 3: the board, we continue to elevate and escalate and we're 155 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 3: pretty excited by it. 156 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: An Tony, as we talk about the impact of higher rates, 157 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: and we've all been keeping a close eye on the 158 00:07:56,840 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: commercial real estate market. How is that impacting hotel owners 159 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: and ultimately potentially Marryott. 160 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 4: So, you know, most of our investors, our owners, and 161 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 4: our franchisees are long term investors in the sector. They 162 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 4: tend to understand that interest rates EBB and flow. I 163 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 4: think the bigger impediment for our investors right now is 164 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 4: simply the availability of construction financing, particularly for new builds, 165 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 4: and it's one of the reasons we've talked the last 166 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 4: couple quarters about how important conversion activity is as part 167 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 4: of our net unit growth story, and it's part of 168 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 4: the reason that creative agreements like the one we're announcing 169 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 4: today are such an important part of our growth story. 170 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 5: Tony, what's happening with labor? Are you starting to see 171 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 5: it easing up? We're seeing strikes with seeing labor action 172 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 5: now becoming a pass of the narrative and a number 173 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 5: of different industries including yours, including your business. What impact 174 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:54,199 Speaker 5: is that going to have? Do you think that the 175 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 5: labor story is going to ease up at the moments 176 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 5: the labor market continues tocill look pretty tight. 177 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, So I'd answer it a few ways. 178 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 4: I think if you looked at our US business, which 179 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:08,319 Speaker 4: is our largest business pre pandemic, at any given time, 180 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 4: we might have had five or six thousand open positions 181 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 4: across our portfolio at the end of the first quarter. 182 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 4: That's about exactly where we were. Those openings may have 183 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 4: been a little more heavily concentrated in some of the 184 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 4: leisure destinations where demand. 185 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:26,679 Speaker 2: Had recovered most quickly. 186 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 4: One of the dynamics we've seen, though, is while our 187 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 4: application volume is up, we're seeing a much higher concentration 188 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 4: of applicants who have not worked in the service industries before. 189 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 4: So that's created a bit more challenge in terms of 190 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 4: training burden and ramp up period for those new associates. 191 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 4: Your second part of your question was around organized labor. 192 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 4: We operate lots of union hotels and many markets across 193 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 4: the country, and we think we'll continue to work through 194 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:02,319 Speaker 4: some of those labor situations and ultimately negotiate acceptable labor 195 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 4: agreements in each and every one of those markets. 196 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 5: Fellas, really appreciate your time, good luck with a new venture. 197 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 5: We really appreciate you joining us today. Sounds really interesting. 198 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 5: Bill Holmbuckle of MGM Resource International Tony Capuana of Marriott International. Gentlemen, 199 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:20,199 Speaker 5: thank you. This is Bloomberg