1 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for 2 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:11,720 Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host, 3 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:23,080 Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt Podcast. I'm 4 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyan, and this is episode number two 5 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 1: and today of the show. I'm joined by Dan nine 6 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 1: Fingers Johnson and Josh further Hilliard to set the stage 7 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: for the upcoming season day secting our goals, hopes and 8 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: hit lists for two thousand. All right, welcome to the 9 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: Wired Hunt Podcast, brought to you by on X, and 10 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: we've got a good show for you today because already 11 00:00:55,960 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: myself and my two partners and Hime I guess you 12 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: could call him, we've already been laughing. We've already been 13 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: making inappropriate sexual jokes. We've already we've already had a 14 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: really good start to the conversation before we started recording, 15 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: so it should just go swimmingly from here. We got 16 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: Dan Johnson and further Hilliard and uh, Dan, I gotta 17 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: tell you something O. Me and Josh further Hilliard. We're 18 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 1: going up north to my family deer camp earlier this summer, 19 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: and it was me, him and my dad. We're in 20 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: the truck at the gas station, and we'd like, I 21 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: don't know, Josh had to take a big dump or something. 22 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: So he was in the bathroom for a long time exactly. 23 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: He finally came out and as he's walking to the 24 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: truck from the other side of the parking lot, someone 25 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: all of a sudden yells further, Oh, now he's got 26 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: some clue. Don't care about Mark, It was it was 27 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: pretty great. That's awesome, Mark, You're lucky you got to 28 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: hang out with me that Then yes, I was, dude, 29 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: can I get your picture? So, so the three of 30 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: us are here today because we need to do our 31 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: annual Goals, Hopes and hit Lists podcast in which we 32 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 1: kind of like to just set the stage for the 33 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:22,959 Speaker 1: upcoming hunting season. Um, I think we've done this every 34 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:27,679 Speaker 1: single year of the podcast, Dan right. So basically the 35 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: gist will be we'll kind of run through each one 36 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: of us and talk about, like, what's the final schedule 37 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: for the year, where we're going, what are we doing, 38 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: what are some of our kind of tangible goals, Maybe 39 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,679 Speaker 1: what are some of our pine this guy hopes, Um, 40 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: if there's any specific bucks were after any specific I 41 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: don't know, projects or things that we just want to 42 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: make sure we really do well this year. I want 43 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: to kind of touch on all that. Um, I have 44 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: a few ideas and notes of what I want to 45 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: kind of cover through each of us. But you know, 46 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: let's just see where this goes. If all of a 47 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 1: sudden we decided want to talk about I don't know 48 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: further's bathroom schedule, we can do that if need be. Um. 49 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 1: Speaking of which, my goal is to completely derail this episode. 50 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: By the way, yet I know we can. We can 51 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: be done with the bathroom schedule stuff. I know where 52 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: this has gone, so we should just and he works. 53 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: He works for the q d M A mark. We 54 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 1: can't like Burt smirch. Smirch if that's even a word. Professional. Man, 55 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: he's a professional. Now, you're right, he's a professional. And 56 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: when a professional visits another professional for an appointment, you 57 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: shouldn't talk about it publicly, right exactly. It's like hip 58 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: hop stuff, hi stuff. So we'll keep Josh's hippo related 59 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: news just to the three of us. But Dan, be 60 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: be easy on him, be gentle to Josh today. Oh no, 61 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: I like Josh. It's you that I'm gonna thank you. 62 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: It's not it's nice to have some backup once in 63 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: a while, I know, right, So that's give him too 64 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: hard of a time. Yeah he really does, man, he 65 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: really does. The Only reason why I give him a 66 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: hard time because I know we can handle it and 67 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: because I love him, right, you think he can handle it. 68 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 1: In his mind, he's actually plotting to murder you if 69 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 1: I got murdered. If I got murdered, do you think 70 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: he'd be the number one suspect in most people's eyes, 71 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: like when they get that news, like, oh, probably Further 72 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: probably snapped. It's either it's either Further or the guy 73 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: who thinks we swear too much on this pod gap 74 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: or talk about kids too much. That's right, h So 75 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: I can I can add into that convo now. I 76 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: want to feel like I can add in on that 77 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: that topic. Did you know that Dan has has a kid? Yeah, 78 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: so I can. I can give the classic Hey, Mark, 79 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: if you hear a kid crying in the background, just 80 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: just we'll just keep going. We can edit that out. 81 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: He actually was crying when we first started, so hopefully 82 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 1: you can't hear him. If you I'm gonna give you 83 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 1: one piece advice right now, I don't have three. I 84 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: laughed really hard Dan, when you wrote that, like I 85 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 1: put up a little picture on Facebook or something just like, uh, 86 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 1: Wade is my son's day when Wade was born. Dan 87 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 1: comes in from left fields like don't have three? Like, no, congrats, 88 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: nothing like that. It's like, don't I laughed really hard 89 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 1: at that. I think I had a good chuckle. I 90 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: feel you should see our house, like it looks like 91 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 1: an abandoned storage shed. I mean, there's just I mean 92 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 1: it is just trashed, and me and my wife we 93 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: try really hard to keep it clean. Oh no, man, no, man, 94 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: It's like it's like they have an agenda. It's like, oh, 95 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 1: let's wake up and trash the house. I don't. I 96 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: don't know how you do it, because I already feel 97 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 1: like that is the case with one kid, so three terrifying. 98 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 1: But that kind of ties into one of the first 99 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: things I did want to ask you about, Dan, not 100 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 1: quite getting into our main topic. But um, when we 101 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 1: were on the show last time together, maybe at the 102 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: time before that, um, like over the course of the summer, 103 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: we we first talked about this idea of trying to 104 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: institute some new good habits. Next time we chatted, we said, hey, 105 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: we're gonna run. We're gonna trying to run three miles 106 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 1: at least three times a week, and then we're gonna 107 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 1: keep each other accountable on it. And since that point, 108 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 1: you and may have been texting each other throughout the 109 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: week with updates and how we're doing. And I just 110 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: want to come out and commend you because I feel 111 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 1: like you've done a damn good job of it. Like 112 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: we've been getting the little onex trackers going and sending 113 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 1: each other screenshot of how far we ran each day 114 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 1: and where we went, and uh, I've been pretty darn 115 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 1: on point. So pat on the back. Yeah, And that's 116 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: I tell you what. Um, It's kind of funny. There's 117 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 1: nights where I'm sitting in my chair it's eight o'clock 118 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 1: at night, or nine almost nine, the kids are finally 119 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 1: in bed, and I could either take that moment to 120 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: just relax in silence, but I can't let that bastard 121 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 1: Mark Kenyan beat me in anything, so I have I 122 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 1: have to get up and go for a run just 123 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: so I can send you a screenshot of what I did. Yeah, 124 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: it's perfect, it's perfect. It really does help me too, 125 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: because I know my crap. Dan sent me three three 126 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 1: screen sets already. One day he went like five miles 127 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: or something. If I get lazy, I can't be the 128 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: pansy of the group. So it's been getting me going 129 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: to so right along with you know, we we do 130 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: our runs and then every once in a while we'll 131 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: you know, here's the target here, I'm shooting my bow 132 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: or whatever. And now I haven't maintained to the three 133 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: miles three times a week schedule because I'm adding in 134 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: different exercises and workouts into that. But for the most part, 135 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: I'm running at least two times a week six miles 136 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: um and six miles a week and then adding in 137 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: another exercise in on that. And damn just got me 138 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: Jack for the mountains. Yeah, I think that's I think 139 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: that's awesome, just having that, just something to get your 140 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: day going in a positive direction, working towards the fall. 141 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: At least for me, I like doing that. Now. It's 142 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: there's that little moment when it's either late at night 143 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: or for me it's early in the morning, when I 144 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: could make that choice, like you, just like you said, 145 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: like I just want to relax for a moment, and 146 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: in that second, I don't want to go run or whatever. 147 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: But always after I did it, I'm always very glad 148 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: and I feel like just from there on out it's better. 149 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: So like today, I didn't want to get up, but 150 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 1: I knew I gotta get out, hammer my three miles 151 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 1: out and then shoot my bow. And it just feels 152 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 1: like I made progress. And that's a good feeling. So 153 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: it's in fact, kudos. I gotta get on this train 154 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 1: with you guys. I need some I need some accountability 155 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,319 Speaker 1: partners on that kind of stuff. Do you want to do? 156 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: You want in on the group text? Oh yeah, you 157 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: got a group text going for that. I mean it's 158 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:54,959 Speaker 1: a two it's a two persons, let's make it a 159 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: three person I need some accountability on on some fitness stuff. 160 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: I gotta get myself back in shape. This ain't a 161 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: joke further, Okay, I'm not. I'm dead serious, man. So 162 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 1: if you're gonna do this, you gotta do it around. 163 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: I'm in. I'm in. I just I think this is 164 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: quite common. But man, I put on some pounds during 165 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: the pregnancy. You should see him. You should see him Dan. 166 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: He's just a bunch of different circles, is the big 167 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 1: old boat man. So I've been I've been meeting a 168 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: couple of guys and and doing some like waited pack 169 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: hikes over the last couple of weeks a couple of 170 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: times a week, and that's been good. But I just 171 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 1: need to get some more cardio and try to cut 172 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: some of this weight by by the fall the old 173 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: sympathy weight. Luckily, I had my sympathy weight on before 174 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 1: my wife got pregnant, so I really didn't need to 175 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: add any anymore. Just keep that consistently hanging on. Right right, 176 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: here's been. Here's been the worst part. People are coming 177 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:58,199 Speaker 1: to visit and like we're getting like cakes and cookies 178 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: and like all this stuff, like oh gosh, it's never 179 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: gonna end. And I just have no willpower for that 180 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 1: kind of stuff. So I need I need some some 181 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: accountability partners on that. So add me to the group 182 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 1: text that stuff about three miles three times a week 183 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 1: that I gotta shoot your bow. All that stuff perfect, 184 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: all right, We're not going to take it easy on you. 185 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: That we'll probably come at you hard if you if 186 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: you misbeat need that I need that with this kind 187 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: of stuff. I need to be picked on and made 188 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 1: fun of for this kind of stuff. So I feel 189 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:32,319 Speaker 1: like I'll fit right in. So there's this there's this Jeff. 190 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:33,959 Speaker 1: You guys know what Jeff is or gift I don't 191 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:35,439 Speaker 1: know how to say it, gift or Jeff. It's like 192 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:39,679 Speaker 1: an animated image. And if you ever bail on one 193 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 1: of the times we're supposed to go running, I'm just 194 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: gonna always send. There's one like if you're if you're 195 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:47,199 Speaker 1: using an iPhone a frequent gift for some reason that 196 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: shows up in like the options. If you just start 197 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 1: to search, there's this picture of like a guy with 198 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: a bunch of hot dogs being thrown on his face. 199 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna send that to you repeatedly. Needin shows 200 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: it shows up in your suggestions because you probably use 201 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: that that might be So, how is your weekend? And 202 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: then he sends that gift you. So we gotta stay 203 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: staying on track here we've gone off the road. Yeah. 204 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: Other than other than the physical fitness type stuff, which 205 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: is important for us with a lot of the trips 206 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 1: were coming up. How does everybody feel with their summer 207 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:27,839 Speaker 1: preparations so far? Because we're almost in mid August, we're 208 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: almost down to the last like two two and a 209 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: half weeks the summer um Dan, how are you feeling 210 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: about your prep other than the physical stuff coming with 211 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 1: your with your hunts, your el khant, your mulder hunt, 212 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: your white tail stuff. Are you where you need to 213 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: be here? Close to it? Yeah? I think I'm fairly close. Uh. 214 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: I think the next big thing for me is putting 215 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:52,559 Speaker 1: together the official gear list and getting everything organized. Right. 216 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: I've I've done my work physically. Um, I've done a 217 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: majority of my preparation. This some or has been done 218 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: on the elk side and on the mucle there hunt side. Um. 219 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,439 Speaker 1: You know, I'm going back to a farm that I've 220 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: hunted now for nine years, eight or nine years now, 221 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: so I know that farm. I know how it operates. 222 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 1: I don't have I have two tree stands up there. 223 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: I've checked my trail cameras once. I'll go back next 224 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: weekend to check the trail cameras and possibly put up 225 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: some more tree stands. But from the white tail side 226 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: of things, it's just been I'm going back into old territory, right, 227 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: So I don't necessarily I'm not gonna say I'm a 228 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: hundred percent prepared, but I'm not under prepared just because 229 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: of everything I already know about the farm. Okay, So 230 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 1: on a one to tense scale for your Western hunts. 231 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: On a one tense scale, where would you say your 232 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: level of preparedness of that honest assessment? Honest assessment. And 233 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 1: I know I know where I'm going. This is the 234 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: same place I went last year from Elk hunt, so 235 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 1: we know the area roughly. We're going a week later, 236 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: hoping to catch the beginning of the Elk rut. And 237 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: I feel, other than having to purchase a couple items 238 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: for gear, I have everything. Um, physically, I'm gonna ramp 239 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: it up, like this week was actually ramp up week, 240 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: where for the next month I'm going hard until it's 241 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: time to leave. So I would say I'm probably at 242 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: a seven right now as far as being prepared for 243 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 1: the Western hunts. Um, the muleteer hunt that's coming in October. 244 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 1: This is a public land, get out of your truck, 245 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 1: go hunt. Like, we have no idea other than what 246 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: information we've researched online or have been told by people 247 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 1: who have shared information with us. It's just one of 248 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 1: those things where it's going to be a shoot from 249 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: the hip hunt. So what's your number of that one 250 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 1: more of a five? Yeah, it's well, I don't don't 251 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 1: even really want to give it a number because I'll 252 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:05,199 Speaker 1: be prepared for it, like right now, and probably out 253 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 1: of seven with that one too, just for the fact 254 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,679 Speaker 1: that we're going into it blind. So I don't think 255 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:15,679 Speaker 1: there's a way to be prepared for a hunt like 256 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: that for sure. And then on the white tail sign, man, 257 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: I'm not like I'll say I'm at a nine right now. 258 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: I mean I usually and I think we've talked about 259 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: this in the past. Man, I put my tree stands up, 260 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: I put them in the good spots, but I never 261 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: use them. So I'm not really concerned this year that 262 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: I have. I guess I don't have as many tree 263 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: stands up as I do in the past, so it'll 264 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 1: just be more running and gunning. And that's something that 265 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 1: I'm completely comfortable with. So it's not like I I 266 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: feel bad that I don't have my you know, some 267 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: trail cameras out or I have you know some other things, 268 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: you know, my my tree stands out. I just know 269 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: that I'll I'll fall right back into my routine early 270 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: September after I get back from the elk hunt, or 271 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: you know, maybe before I go on my elk hunt. 272 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: I'll switch my cameras off of my mineral stations to 273 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: the traditional pinch points betting areas, uh, you know, fence 274 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: crossing type areas where uh I get more rut deer movement. 275 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 1: And then from there it's just falling in line and 276 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: falling into that routine of of the season. Yeah, off 277 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: and running. What about you for its one through ten 278 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: scale on your summer preparations? How are you feeling coming 279 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: into the two nineteen season? Oh? Man, like a three 280 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: or four. I just like like have had almost zero 281 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: time for that stuff. Um with the new baby. He's 282 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: like six weeks old day, so it's just been it's 283 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: been crazy the last couple of weeks, just kind of 284 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: figuring out our new life and doing all that stuff. 285 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: And um, so I feel very underprepared for like my 286 00:15:56,160 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: personal um hunting. UM. I am planning a couple of 287 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: like mentored hunts and stuff like that that I'm feeling 288 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: much better about. So hopefully we'll get some other people 289 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: on some deer um. And I've been doing quite a 290 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: bit of planning for a trip that we're doing um 291 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: in October. I'm feeling pretty good about that. But in 292 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: terms of like my personal hunting here in Michigan, I 293 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: feel very uh under prepared. So it's going to be 294 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: a race to October one year over the next couple 295 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: of a couple of weeks. Why are you underprepared? I 296 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: just haven't. I just haven't given it the time that 297 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: I need to give it. I mean, like, are you 298 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: hunting enough hunted? Every year? I'm primarily hunting public land. 299 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: I've got like a small piece that I have access to, 300 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: um privately here that I that I hunted last year 301 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: for the first time. UM. I figured a few things 302 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: out on that one, but I need to get out 303 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: there and and do a little bit more on it. 304 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: I'm hoping to get out there over the next couple 305 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: of weeks and prep a couple of trees for UM. 306 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: I'm primarily running and gunning. I'm gonna switch over to 307 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:05,679 Speaker 1: saddle this year, so I need to get out there 308 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: and prep a couple of trees for saddle. Yeah. I know, 309 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 1: I'm trying to be like Mark. I want to be 310 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: just like Mark. So if you're trying to be cool, 311 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: that's a bad plan. Yeah, I know, I know, but 312 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: so yeah, man, I just like I need to do 313 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: a lot more scouting than than what I've done, and um, 314 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 1: I've I've severely lacked on that. Um. I feel like 315 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: I still have a little bit of time, so I'm 316 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:33,440 Speaker 1: not like totally freaking out yet, UM, but I need 317 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 1: to get on it so that that that would be 318 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 1: the number one reason why I just feel underprepared. Yeah, 319 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: I feel like and and I know you know I'm 320 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: going to say this and it's the same old so 321 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:49,880 Speaker 1: don't mind me. But I think access is Josh's challenge. 322 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 1: So see, I think Josh a little bit doesn't like 323 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,959 Speaker 1: knocking on doors, right, that's probably something you're not too keen. 324 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 1: And so most of the spots he's hunting our public 325 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 1: land or spots where you know, like me and him 326 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 1: hunt together or him and another buddy are hunting together, 327 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 1: and that's great, but there's something to be said about 328 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:12,400 Speaker 1: having a spot that's like just yours or you've got 329 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 1: all your own, and that you can be out there 330 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 1: whenever you need. Um. So I'm sure you know, I 331 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 1: know it's hard to get that time right now, but 332 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 1: once you do get that time, and it's gonna happen, 333 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 1: for it one of these times where you're gonna knock 334 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: an a door somewhere you're gonna get that hundred acres 335 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 1: that maybe it's just you or one other random person, 336 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:30,440 Speaker 1: but you know, you can get out there whenever you want, 337 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 1: and you can run your own cameras and you can 338 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:33,679 Speaker 1: hang your own stands. I think that will be like 339 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:35,880 Speaker 1: a a good thing for you, would be a game 340 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: changer for me for sure. So, um, if anybody's listening 341 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 1: has a hundred acres, preferably a mile from your house, yeah, 342 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 1: that's a big thing that There's been a couple of 343 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:49,719 Speaker 1: pieces like you know, done by Mark. You had some 344 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 1: leads and its gonna be I mean it's like an 345 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:53,160 Speaker 1: hour and a half for me to get down there, 346 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: and just you know, this year, out of any I 347 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 1: just think I need to be a little closer to 348 00:18:57,920 --> 00:18:59,640 Speaker 1: home because I think I'm just gonna have to pop 349 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: out one to get a chance. Right, So it's just 350 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: gonna be a quick afternoon hunt or get get there 351 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 1: for a morning hunt and be back for the afternoon 352 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: and help my wife out with some stuff. And so 353 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 1: it's just gonna be a little bit different year with 354 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff where I'm not gonna be able 355 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 1: to I don't know how many all days since I'm 356 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 1: gonna be doing you know what I mean, Um, it 357 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: would be nice to have something close to home or 358 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,159 Speaker 1: I can just pop out and and sit for the 359 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 1: morning or get out there for the afternoon hunt and 360 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: um still be able to fulfill my obligations here at home. 361 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: So so that in mind, then walk me through real 362 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 1: quick for you, Josh, what you think your hunt schedule 363 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: is going to look like this year? What we're you 364 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: going to be hunting? What's that going to sure? Sure? 365 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: So so October, Um, October is going to be probably 366 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 1: my my best time, um in terms of having a 367 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 1: full month to hunt. My my weekends in October will 368 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 1: be limited that Like, like I said, I've got two 369 00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 1: different mentored hunts for work that I'm basically uh in 370 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: charge of. I've got one the first weekend in October 371 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: and one the second weekend of October. Um. You know, 372 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 1: there's some logistical things that I'm gonna have to take 373 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: care of for that and some planning. UM that will 374 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: take a time to take some time from my from 375 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:15,640 Speaker 1: those weeks. But I'm hoping to get out a couple 376 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 1: of times during the week. UM. Fortunately my schedule working 377 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: from home, I have the ability to hunt a little 378 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: bit more during the week than than some people. So, um, 379 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: that stuff is going to be just be primarily public 380 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 1: land around my house here, um or within you know, 381 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: an hour or so to drive from my house. Um. 382 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: And then we're I don't know what, can I say 383 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 1: what we're doing in October? Like, yeah, is that good? Yeah? Yeah, 384 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,880 Speaker 1: we're well that And then our our trip that we're 385 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 1: gonna take, Um, so where are you guys going, We're going? 386 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 1: Can I is this just good to say? Yeah, we've 387 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 1: talked about that. Are we okay? So we're going coming 388 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 1: out or something? Just cool? The same announcement. Now we're 389 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 1: we're heading up to the Boundary Waters in Minnesota to 390 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: do a like a canoe in hunt up there for 391 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: white tails. Um. So we're like budgeting a week for 392 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: that trip. So that's gonna that's gonna be uh one 393 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: of my hunts and the end of October really looking 394 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: forward to that one. Um, it should be a lot 395 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: of fun. But again, I've been spent a lot of 396 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 1: time on on logistics for that one. There's a lot 397 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: that goes into that one. So um, that's cool. And 398 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 1: then uh, November, I'm just gonna you know, try to 399 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: find a hot spot. That's probably gonna be the time 400 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: when I'm spending a little bit more time in a 401 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: little piece of a private I have access to UM again, 402 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 1: hopefully during the week when some of the other guys 403 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 1: that UM have permission to hunt it won't be there 404 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 1: as much. UM. I think it's like sixty acres seventy 405 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: or something like that, so it's not huge. I know 406 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 1: there's at least two other guys that hunt it, maybe 407 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 1: another another one. UM. Some of those guys just primarily 408 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 1: gun hunted. So I think if I can get out 409 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: there during the week, I'll have I'll have it to myself, 410 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 1: and I've had I have a pretty good line of 411 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 1: communication with this other guy that hunts it, so we 412 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 1: kind of let each other know when we're gonna be 413 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 1: there and try to stay away UM if one of 414 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 1: us is going to be out there, so it works 415 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,679 Speaker 1: out well. But I'm hoping to get out there and uh, 416 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 1: you know, spend some time out there in November and 417 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: hopefully October two if I'm hoping to get a camera 418 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 1: out there, so if I see something going on, i'll um, 419 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 1: I'll get out there. So UM, the only downside about 420 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 1: that place, Mark, it sounds like they didn't get the 421 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:35,120 Speaker 1: fields planted in anything this year nothing. So yeah, so 422 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 1: that's uh, that's not great, especially for early season stuff. Um, 423 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 1: but I think there'll be some some cruisers in there 424 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 1: late October and in November, so um yeah, So that's 425 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 1: kind of that's kind of my my plan. I think 426 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 1: a lot of it's just going to be winging it 427 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 1: and getting out when I when I can so and 428 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 1: then you get November gun November gun season. Yeah, I'll 429 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: be a deer amp and then um, um, you know 430 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 1: that's always something I'm looking forward to. And man, I 431 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 1: feel like this year, like I'm more excited for that, um, 432 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 1: for that trip than I have been a long time. 433 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: I feel like things just keep getting better and keep 434 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 1: getting better and keep getting better, and like last year 435 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 1: was like really close to making it happen. Um, I've 436 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 1: got a lot of I've got a lot of hope 437 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: and confidence um for this year. That's probably like if 438 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 1: we're talking about goals like that would probably be like 439 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 1: my number one goal would be to kill a good 440 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 1: buck up there. That'd be awesome. It would be so 441 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: it would be um, and I agree, I feel like 442 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:41,919 Speaker 1: the Northern Michigan deer camp is making steady progress. So UM, okay, 443 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 1: so that if that's one of your goals, what what 444 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 1: else would be considered a goal for you this year? 445 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: Given it's kind of tough, tough circumstances this year, with 446 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 1: time and everything. I mean, that look honestly like my 447 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: my buck goals. Um, you know, my kind of standards 448 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: are like a three and a half year old. UM. 449 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 1: I think my best chance for that is going to 450 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 1: be um that small piece of private that I have 451 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 1: access to. Um, but man, I would be I would 452 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 1: be stoked if I killed a good one in public. 453 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 1: And I've I've got a few spots that i've I've 454 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 1: i've found that I think it can maybe happen. Um, 455 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 1: we'll see. Um, but I think really just kind of 456 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: filling my freezer with with some deer or over some 457 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: does would be um good for this year. I'm getting 458 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 1: low on venison. UM, I have another another mouth to feed, um, 459 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: you know, as he's getting older and eating real food. UM, 460 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,679 Speaker 1: so it would be nice too. It'd be nice to 461 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 1: put a couple of doughs in the freezer this year, UM, 462 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 1: to kind of get a good re stock of venison. Um. 463 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 1: So I mean if I could, if I could put 464 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 1: two does in the freezer this year, i'd be I'd 465 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 1: be really happy. Um. You know, obviously i'd love to 466 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 1: kill a buck. That's that's what I'm gonna be shooting for, um, 467 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,400 Speaker 1: you know, really the whole season. But if I can 468 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 1: take a dough here or there, um, that'd be That'd 469 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,040 Speaker 1: be awesome. And I really like to I'd really I 470 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: like to kill one of those doughs on public land 471 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 1: with my bow. That would be cool. So two doughs 472 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 1: and the three and a half year old buck, and 473 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 1: it'd be even better if you got that big one 474 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,880 Speaker 1: up north exactly exactly. And and I think my goal 475 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 1: for our Minnesota trip would be to see a deer. 476 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 1: That's that's my hope up there. Yeah, I think that's 477 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 1: a reasonable goal to have. What about you, Dan, what's 478 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: your final schedule and what your goals would be then? 479 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 1: Given that schedule? Yeah, so let's see, we got a 480 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 1: second week of September is going to Elk, second week 481 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: of October we're going to South Dakota for meal deer. 482 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 1: And then obviously Iowa probably won't hunt much until you know, 483 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 1: mid October. But as far as starting there for white tails, um, 484 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: I probably want to go. I probably want to get 485 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 1: I got a new deep freeze, so I want to 486 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:56,360 Speaker 1: fill that out. My goal this year is to kill 487 00:25:56,480 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 1: three doughs, and I want to put that meat into 488 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,360 Speaker 1: my freezer. Because I threw a piece of cardboard out 489 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 1: my window and it knocked the plug in out of 490 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 1: the wall and I didn't notice it of my old 491 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:16,199 Speaker 1: deep freeze and all my meat defrosted everything, and so 492 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,719 Speaker 1: I had to throw away probably about there wasn't a 493 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 1: lot in there. I would say about twenty five pounds 494 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 1: of venison, and it really pissed me off. So I 495 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 1: want to fill that freezer up again and get my 496 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 1: family back on the deer meat train, especially just the 497 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 1: ground stuff that you can add to anything. Right, and 498 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 1: then from the buck side of things, man, this might 499 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: be a year where I eat my tag. Just I 500 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,479 Speaker 1: got a couple of deer that have shown back up 501 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,679 Speaker 1: and I've only checked my trail cameras one time. I 502 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:50,400 Speaker 1: got a couple of deer that have shown back up 503 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 1: and they're nice and they're good, and I might eat 504 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 1: a tag for them. So yeah, we we got to 505 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: talk a little bit about that, um, But before we 506 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 1: get to that real quick, what would a success for 507 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,439 Speaker 1: your elk trip look like? What's your goal for that 508 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 1: Colorado trip? Shooting a bowl, shooting a cow, just getting Yeah, 509 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 1: I'm shooting the first elk that comes within shooting line 510 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:22,479 Speaker 1: range with my bow. Now, if we're if we're in 511 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: the mix right, we're gonna be going during the rut 512 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,120 Speaker 1: or during the pre rud, I guess you would say. 513 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,879 Speaker 1: And if I could get and we're in the mix 514 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:33,879 Speaker 1: right and we're starting to hear bogle in and the 515 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 1: responding and it's getting crazy like you see on a 516 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: one of those premost videos, then I'll probably pass one 517 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: to hopefully get a bowl. But if it's real slow 518 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 1: and we're not having the encounters and a and uh 519 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 1: a cow gives us the opportunity, I'm gonna I'll probably 520 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: take a shot at a dough and then meal deer 521 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: in South Dakota. Like I said, that's such a that's 522 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 1: such a brand new thing that just to see a mule, 523 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 1: your buck in its natural environment through the spotting scope 524 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 1: and maybe take a stock even if I fail, would 525 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 1: be such a huge takeaway for me that I would 526 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:17,360 Speaker 1: consider that a success just to even get a stock in. Yeah, 527 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 1: that would be that'd be pretty cool. Yeah, And we 528 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 1: need to take a quick break here to thank our 529 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 1: friends at on X and the on X Hunt app 530 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 1: is something I'm using a lot this time of year. 531 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,880 Speaker 1: Here too, specific examples of what I've been doing recently. 532 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,120 Speaker 1: Number one the mapping feature that allows you to mark 533 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 1: an area and actually measure an area like a polygon, 534 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 1: create whatever shape you want on the map. It will 535 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 1: tell you exactly what the acreages. That's a very handy 536 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 1: when you're trying to plan out how much fertilizer seed 537 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 1: to use on a food plot. Number two, I've been 538 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: setting up a bunch of new tree standing, tree settle locations. 539 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 1: When I'm marking those on my map as a waypoint. 540 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 1: On x now has custom icons. You can choose the 541 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,959 Speaker 1: waypoint icon to look like a tree stand or ground blind, 542 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 1: a trail camra, or all sorts of other things, just 543 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 1: to make it that much easier when you look at 544 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 1: your map to know exactly what waypoints mean. What very 545 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: handy tool. Check it out at your mobile app store 546 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 1: of choice. We also want to thank our friends at 547 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 1: White Tailed Properties and Spencer will take it from here. 548 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 1: This week with White Tailed Properties, we are joined by 549 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 1: Justin Mason, a land specialist out of Illinois, and Justine 550 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 1: is going to be telling us about what are some 551 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 1: often overlooked things that buyers forget to communicate with their agents. 552 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 1: You know, I think oftentimes buyers overlooked the fact that 553 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 1: they're already working with me as an agent. So if 554 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 1: they're browsing online and they see a property that they like, 555 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 1: they may just kind of impulse and call that other agent, 556 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 1: and then they forget to mention that they're working with 557 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 1: me as their agents. So they ask all these questions 558 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 1: and then call me back and and tell me the news. 559 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 1: And I said, well, did you first tell them that 560 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 1: you're working with me? Um, just so that you don't 561 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: step on the other agents toe. So is probably the 562 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 1: most common overlook thing that myers, you know, forget to 563 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 1: tell me as their agent. If you'd like to learn 564 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 1: more and to see the properties that Justin currently has 565 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 1: listed for sale, visit white tail Properties dot com. Backslash Mason, 566 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 1: that's m A s O N. Now what about your 567 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 1: back to Iowa? Back to these bucks? Walked me through 568 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 1: these handful of bucks that you think you're willing to 569 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 1: pin your whole season on. Yeah. So you know we've 570 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 1: talked about the Spencer new hearth Buck right, so he's 571 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 1: back this year. I don't know if you necessarily put 572 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 1: on a ton of inches, but I think he's going 573 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 1: to be a six year old this year. Uh, maybe 574 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 1: a five year old. I don't know. But he's got 575 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 1: the body, he's got the rack. Right, he's a shooter, 576 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 1: and I have an idea where he's cruising through, so 577 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 1: he's he's a hit lister. I mean, I just, I 578 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 1: just I'm coming off of a year where I just 579 00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 1: shot my biggest buck. So it's not like I need 580 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 1: to shoot. I don't know, I don't want to. I 581 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 1: don't want to say I don't want to put any 582 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 1: restrictions on the first four year old that comes through 583 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 1: is going to get an arrow. That's not gonna happen 584 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 1: this year. I'm gonna be more specific in what I'm 585 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 1: targeting and and try to go with a set hit list. Now, 586 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 1: barring that, nothing gigantic walks through. You know, you know 587 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 1: that I don't have any history with or I don't 588 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 1: have a nutrail cameer pictures with a big six year 589 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 1: old one ninety walks by that you've never seen before, 590 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 1: You're not going to turn your nose up on it. Exactly, yeah, 591 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 1: exactly exactly. He'll get an arrow sent his way. And 592 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 1: you know, I got a couple other deer that are 593 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 1: returning customers from last year that are gonna be really good. 594 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 1: Hopefully they stick around, and I can. You know, there's 595 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 1: a lot of things that are in play this year 596 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 1: that weren't in play the year before, and that is 597 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 1: this heavy rain in the spring cost some fields to 598 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: be planted, just like you you were talking about further 599 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 1: and some new fields that were in CRP previous years 600 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 1: to be taken out of CRP and now they're an egg. 601 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 1: So I'm not sure what's going to happen with the 602 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: deer movement with these new fields in play. So it's 603 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 1: gonna be it's gonna be a little bit of a 604 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 1: learning curve, right just and I think I'll be able 605 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 1: to learn it by putting some trail cameras up in 606 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 1: these areas and checking them every once in a while. 607 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 1: But I don't know. I feel like I'm on point 608 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 1: with this farm now. And like I said, it took 609 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 1: me seven years to figure some of this stuff out 610 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 1: to where I think I got a shot at a 611 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 1: really good deer this year, and if he if he 612 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 1: does what he's done the last two years, um, then 613 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 1: I probably won't even start hunting until m Man like 614 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 1: November five or sixth or something like that. He doesn't 615 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 1: the last two years, he hasn't shown up until like 616 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 1: the eleven or twelve, and he's stuck around to and 617 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 1: then he disappears, and then he comes back pretty much 618 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 1: for late season and then he's gone again. So we're 619 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 1: talking about Narlie Charlie, right, that's right. So yet Narlie Charlie, 620 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 1: it sounds like he's a November type of strike. Uh October, 621 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 1: and you only get one You only have one tag 622 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 1: in Iowa, only one archer tag. Right, Well, I can 623 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 1: get an archery tag and then I can buy a 624 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 1: late season tag if I fill my right, I can. 625 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 1: I can use them. I can use a bow for 626 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,479 Speaker 1: a muzzleloader tag. Okay, So well, I guess what I'm 627 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 1: trying to understand though, is if you know you want 628 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 1: to go for Narlie Charlie in late or mid November, 629 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 1: something you probably wouldn't want target spencer or dork or 630 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 1: something like that in early October because you don't want 631 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 1: to shoot that with your bow and then not be 632 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 1: able to hunt Narlie Charlie on the eighth, ninth, tenth, 633 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 1: or ever with your bow. Is that right? Right? Right? 634 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 1: So that's why A, I'm probably gonna stay out of there. Um, 635 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 1: I'll probably do some of those those observation hunts where 636 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 1: I am hunting really easy access, hopefully with some kind 637 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,840 Speaker 1: of visibility into the timber um And you've been on 638 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 1: that farm before and there's that huge valley where you 639 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 1: can see a long ways if you get into it. 640 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:21,400 Speaker 1: So my goal is to, you know, maybe just camp 641 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 1: out on one of these easy access points and just 642 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 1: watch and then if I see something or my trail 643 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 1: cameras tell me something, then I'm going to jump in 644 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,359 Speaker 1: and go for the kill. Have you considered changing up 645 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 1: your normal trail camera locations two more zero in specifically 646 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 1: for Gnarly so instead of spreading them out where you 647 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 1: usually do, have you thought about focusing all of your 648 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,400 Speaker 1: stuff in the zones you think he's most likely to 649 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,479 Speaker 1: be Yep, And that's typically what I do every year, 650 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,840 Speaker 1: is when I get a really good buck on camera 651 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,239 Speaker 1: I take some down somewhere else and bring them in 652 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,319 Speaker 1: to hope, hopefully zero in. But I won't do that 653 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 1: until the actual hunting season, gotcha? Okay? Uh So Narlie, 654 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:09,880 Speaker 1: Charlie's number one, Spencer's number two probably is dork up 655 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 1: there still. Yeah, Man, he's a nine year old this 656 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 1: year and he's probably like in the one high one thirties. 657 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 1: So what happens if it's like November eight or ninth 658 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,239 Speaker 1: or ten. You haven't seen Narlie yet, but this nine 659 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 1: year old dork Buck comes by that you've seen for 660 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,279 Speaker 1: six years now, where we've been talking about him since 661 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,919 Speaker 1: the podcast started. I think, I mean, that's crazy. Well, 662 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,839 Speaker 1: are you going to have a hard time passing on him? See? 663 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I have these debates. Let me 664 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:43,880 Speaker 1: ask let me flip it and ask you that same question. Dude, 665 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 1: I don't know. That's really hard because you just came 666 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 1: off of the exact same year that I had. You 667 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 1: just shot your biggest buck ever, and I definitely come 668 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:56,360 Speaker 1: into this year feel just more picky. I don't I 669 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 1: don't have I have no pressure. You know, there's some 670 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 1: years if you don't kill buck for a year or 671 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:01,920 Speaker 1: two you're like, you know what, I just need to 672 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 1: get back into I gotta get some momentum again. I 673 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,360 Speaker 1: gotta you know, I remember a few years ago, we're like, 674 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,359 Speaker 1: I used to shoot it, shoot up, shoot a four 675 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,239 Speaker 1: year old, shoot a buck. Have that feeling again. You'll 676 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,719 Speaker 1: get after it. But then when you have that success, now, 677 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:14,279 Speaker 1: it's like, I just want to hunt more. I want 678 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 1: to challenge myself more. I want to wait and see 679 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 1: what might be out there. And yeah, if I if 680 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 1: I don't feel a tag whatever, um, I kind of 681 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 1: feel if I if I was in your scenario. And 682 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:30,280 Speaker 1: and again we've said this many times. Scorer isn't everything, 683 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 1: of course, but sometimes there's nothing wrong with being excited 684 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 1: about a deer that's really rare and exciting. And if 685 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:38,400 Speaker 1: you want to challenge yourself in that way, I have 686 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,920 Speaker 1: no problem with that. And I myself sometimes i'm like that. 687 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:42,880 Speaker 1: You know, like, there's this buck Frank last year that 688 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 1: he was he was obviously mature, but he was also 689 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:47,879 Speaker 1: the biggest antler deer I've ever seen before while hunting 690 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 1: in Michigan, and that was really exciting and I wanted 691 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,960 Speaker 1: to try to kill him. Um, So I would probably 692 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 1: in your scenario if I knew that Narlie was still alive, 693 00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 1: Like if I got at least one picture knowing that 694 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 1: he was around owned and I thought I was in 695 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:06,880 Speaker 1: the game, I would probably not shoot anything else unless 696 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:10,840 Speaker 1: like a no brainer, knock your socks off something similar 697 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 1: to Narley came, but at least for a while, I'd 698 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 1: want at least give it a chance. You know, I'd 699 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:15,840 Speaker 1: hate to go out there the first day of my racation. 700 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,600 Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean, I don't know. It'd be like 701 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 1: if holy Field showed up again this year for me 702 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,720 Speaker 1: and he was like seven years old and a hundred 703 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,520 Speaker 1: fifteen inches, but I'm also hunting a hundred and sixty 704 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:30,360 Speaker 1: inch mega giant again. Um, it would be a huge dilemma. 705 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 1: I don't know what I would do. Um. In that case, 706 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,279 Speaker 1: I might shoot holy Field just because it's been a 707 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 1: crazy thing for me. Um. But in your scenario, I 708 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 1: I could understand either way, whichever way you end up going, 709 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,360 Speaker 1: I would get it. But I think I would probably 710 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 1: lean just a little bit towards at least give myself 711 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,319 Speaker 1: a chance to maybe see Gnarly. Um. I just see 712 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 1: him on the foot would be amazing. I mean, in 713 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 1: the in the same goes for a nine and nine 714 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 1: and a half year old buck who has pretty much 715 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 1: been not turnal on my farm the entire time that 716 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:06,080 Speaker 1: I've known him, Right, So I have a feeling he 717 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,640 Speaker 1: goes somewhere else during the hunting season because I don't 718 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 1: get any pictures of him. I think early October I'll 719 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 1: get some pictures of him, But I don't know. There 720 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,799 Speaker 1: there is a there is a something cool about the 721 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 1: rarity of antlers, But at the same time, there's there's 722 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:27,000 Speaker 1: also a rarity to a really old buck that makes 723 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 1: it through the winters and making his body's huge, and 724 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 1: he's just he's like the king ship of the world. 725 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 1: And you know what I mean, I don't know. I'd 726 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,880 Speaker 1: say that's more rare than a than antlers. You know, 727 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:42,400 Speaker 1: nine and a half year old buck. I mean you 728 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 1: don't you don't see that, Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it's 729 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,000 Speaker 1: like a ghost. I mean, if you haven't been seeing it, 730 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:54,560 Speaker 1: like if you're just totally nocturnal. Man, think about that story. 731 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,600 Speaker 1: If you're able to wrap your tag around nine and 732 00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 1: a half year old buck that finally slipped up and 733 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,959 Speaker 1: you were able to capitalize on it, that'd be that'd 734 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 1: be awesome. So let me ask you guys this. Then, 735 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,160 Speaker 1: you know, like this is a podcast we're telling we 736 00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:11,360 Speaker 1: tell stories. You know, we're storytellers. So what what's a 737 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 1: better story? Hey man? I have two years of history, um, 738 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,880 Speaker 1: with this one buck, and he's got big anglers, and 739 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:21,759 Speaker 1: I end up, you know, putting the piece of the 740 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:26,160 Speaker 1: puzzle together and I kill him. Or I got six 741 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:30,279 Speaker 1: years of experience with this dear. He's nine and a 742 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 1: half years old, completely nocturnal. I figure him out and 743 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:43,759 Speaker 1: I shot him and killed him. Well, Josh out to me, 744 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:47,640 Speaker 1: that's that. To me, it's an easy answer. Um, I 745 00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:49,319 Speaker 1: would say that nine and a half year old buck 746 00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,480 Speaker 1: that you've got so much history with, regardless of what 747 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,720 Speaker 1: he scores, I just don't think you're gonna have another 748 00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,759 Speaker 1: opportunity out of nine and a half ye old buck 749 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:03,040 Speaker 1: if to do it, maybe a long long time. UM. 750 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:07,080 Speaker 1: To me that that would be my answer. So my 751 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:10,200 Speaker 1: my answer would be this, It would be I would 752 00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:13,919 Speaker 1: I would agree with Josh, except for all of your 753 00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:18,239 Speaker 1: dork stuff has only ever been summer pictures like they're there. 754 00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:22,799 Speaker 1: There's never been actual hunting encounters or hunting season strategy 755 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,840 Speaker 1: around him. Like he always disappears. So it's always been 756 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:27,560 Speaker 1: like I got a picture of him the summer, and 757 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,080 Speaker 1: then we don't hear about until the next year. I 758 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:32,000 Speaker 1: got a picture dorc again, and then he disappears. If 759 00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,120 Speaker 1: if if it became like a hunting thing, if you've 760 00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,680 Speaker 1: been hunting him and seeing him for nine seasons, and 761 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,879 Speaker 1: then I'd be like, no brainer, go after Dork. Given that, 762 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:43,640 Speaker 1: I would say, you know, six years of summer pictures 763 00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:47,720 Speaker 1: kind of equals in my mind two years of hunting 764 00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:51,440 Speaker 1: actual in season, back and forth, back and forth with 765 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:56,600 Speaker 1: a mega giant. Probably. And I will also say, if 766 00:40:56,640 --> 00:41:00,759 Speaker 1: we're looking at story value to us internally, probably all 767 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:02,840 Speaker 1: those years. If we're looking at story value to the 768 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:07,440 Speaker 1: outside public, we're kidding ourselves. If like, whether we like 769 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,319 Speaker 1: it or not, just the reality of the world is 770 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,440 Speaker 1: that huge deer just get people excited. I mean that's 771 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:16,719 Speaker 1: just the truth of it. And uh, and you know 772 00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,200 Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with getting excited about a big deer, 773 00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 1: and this big deer year after like people will get 774 00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,920 Speaker 1: excited about it. Um, no doubt about that. So I 775 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:28,239 Speaker 1: think you've got two great stories, whicheveryone ends up panning out. 776 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,719 Speaker 1: You're in good shape, So consider yourself lucky for that, 777 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:35,080 Speaker 1: right well, you know, and there's still the you know 778 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:39,239 Speaker 1: that part of the that part of the state right 779 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:44,080 Speaker 1: now is in a drought advisory, So who knows what happens. 780 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I've had deer disappear in the past, you know, 781 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:50,160 Speaker 1: never found them. E h d is a thing thing 782 00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:55,760 Speaker 1: again this year. So it's just I always have these 783 00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:59,160 Speaker 1: these awesome conversations with everybody, Hey, what are you doing? 784 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,480 Speaker 1: You know, maybe flat show camp picks, whatever. But the 785 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,080 Speaker 1: truth of the matter is, I'm not making any decisions 786 00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:09,840 Speaker 1: up until the day I get into that tree stand 787 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,720 Speaker 1: and a deer walks by. That's when I make my decision. 788 00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:16,880 Speaker 1: Right if, in the words of Dan Johnson in the 789 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,040 Speaker 1: year two thousand and eight, if it makes me go, uh, 790 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:26,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna shoot, that's a fact, Man's I'll always remember 791 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:32,640 Speaker 1: that clip. Yeah, and that crazy how far back that goes. 792 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:37,640 Speaker 1: We're getting old, dude. Um. So I'll walk through my 793 00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,319 Speaker 1: schedule for you guys. It keeps on getting changed since 794 00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:43,200 Speaker 1: the last time we talked to all the stand Um. 795 00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,680 Speaker 1: So I'm doing this North Dakota hunt at the beginning 796 00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:49,960 Speaker 1: of the season. It's August thirty through September seven, so 797 00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:53,719 Speaker 1: that's a public land hunt. Um. Spencer new Heart is 798 00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,719 Speaker 1: going to join me now for that one, so that 799 00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:00,080 Speaker 1: should be cool. My goals for that hunt are to 800 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,760 Speaker 1: kill mature buck. I'll be pumped if we can finally 801 00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,320 Speaker 1: find a mature deer during hunting season and getting there on. 802 00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:08,799 Speaker 1: I feel like we kinda just didn't have enough time 803 00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:10,719 Speaker 1: or didn't quite get to figure it out last year 804 00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:13,479 Speaker 1: when me and Josh were out there. So I want 805 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:17,560 Speaker 1: to take another stab. Um. So that's my goal there. 806 00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:19,320 Speaker 1: I just want to figure it out. Like it's just 807 00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:21,520 Speaker 1: being like a little bit of a thorn in my side, 808 00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:26,360 Speaker 1: so I need that whatever that feeling is the fulfillment 809 00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,920 Speaker 1: of answering the question, right, and that's what I need 810 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:33,040 Speaker 1: to figure out there. Um. And then I'll come back 811 00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,879 Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks, take care of stuff around 812 00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:39,359 Speaker 1: the house, be a dad again, and then October one 813 00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,400 Speaker 1: and that whole time will begin a bunch of Michigan 814 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,960 Speaker 1: hunting for me, hunting a couple of spots in Michigan. Um, 815 00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:50,560 Speaker 1: and then that mid October hunt that Josh talked, well, 816 00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,040 Speaker 1: I am going to go in one of those field 817 00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:55,200 Speaker 1: of fork mentor hunts with Josh and mentors new hunters. 818 00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,360 Speaker 1: And then yeah, the third week in October, we're shooting 819 00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:02,320 Speaker 1: for the Minnesota hunt. UM. I agree with Josh. My 820 00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:06,200 Speaker 1: goal there is to just see some deer and survive. Um. 821 00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,480 Speaker 1: If we survived the trip find some deer, I will 822 00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,279 Speaker 1: be like, wow, we did great. UM. As far as 823 00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:16,160 Speaker 1: what I would shoot, I will shoot probably anything that's legal. UM. 824 00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:20,360 Speaker 1: That's my my goal. From a what I will target 825 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,799 Speaker 1: on that hunt, I'd be to take any deer out 826 00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,600 Speaker 1: of there. I feel like canoe in you know, ten fifteen, 827 00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,600 Speaker 1: twenty miles or whatever ends up being in that kind 828 00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:30,560 Speaker 1: of wilderness. I feel like getting in and out of 829 00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:33,839 Speaker 1: there with a deer would be one heck of an accomplishment. UM. 830 00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:40,439 Speaker 1: So that's my Minnesota thoughts. UM. And then get back 831 00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:44,719 Speaker 1: again focusing on Michigan through the rut this year UM. 832 00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,960 Speaker 1: And then Ken Rovan toward Deer Camp. Same thing as 833 00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,440 Speaker 1: Josh looking forward to that. Would love to take a 834 00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:54,200 Speaker 1: nice buck up there. I will say that my goals 835 00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:57,160 Speaker 1: as far as Michigan deer this year are a little 836 00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:00,719 Speaker 1: bit location dependent. In that up there at the deer camp, 837 00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,080 Speaker 1: I would happily shoot a three year old. Like, if 838 00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,800 Speaker 1: there's like a decent little three year old buck, I 839 00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:07,919 Speaker 1: would shoot that thing in a heartbeat up there. That'd 840 00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:11,520 Speaker 1: be amazing. Um. While down in southern Michigan and these 841 00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:15,040 Speaker 1: other spots, I'm becoming much more picky, um, just because 842 00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,640 Speaker 1: I know there's some potential I've been putting in a 843 00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:20,719 Speaker 1: lot of time and work. I'm I'm just trying to 844 00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,000 Speaker 1: ramp it up to the next level now, especially. I mean, 845 00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:28,279 Speaker 1: I can't set my standards by Frank because that's unrealistic 846 00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,759 Speaker 1: for most years around here. But I'd be lying if 847 00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:35,520 Speaker 1: I don't see him in the back of my mind 848 00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,400 Speaker 1: a lot when I'm like, you know, like the just 849 00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,720 Speaker 1: some dear jokes don't have the same jaw dropping effect 850 00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,040 Speaker 1: they used to have. After I've now had a bunch 851 00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:47,600 Speaker 1: of encounters with a deer like Frank here. Um. So 852 00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,000 Speaker 1: I'm sure I'll be brought back down to reality this season. 853 00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:54,239 Speaker 1: It's guaranteed to happen. But there's something about that area, though, Mark, 854 00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:59,560 Speaker 1: that is holding good dear right. It's not a coincidence 855 00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:03,840 Speaker 1: that holy Field got old, that Dear got old, and 856 00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,399 Speaker 1: so it's not to say that another deer won't get 857 00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:10,279 Speaker 1: old in that in that neighborhood. I feel like that's 858 00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:14,319 Speaker 1: an under like your underestimating yourself. That's a good point. 859 00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:18,360 Speaker 1: It definitely has it had this little spot I've been 860 00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,479 Speaker 1: hunting for it's like eight years a now or something. 861 00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:23,000 Speaker 1: It's come a long way. It has been cool to 862 00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,880 Speaker 1: see the progress. You know, those first few years I 863 00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:28,440 Speaker 1: was hunting here, I was lucky to have one three 864 00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:31,239 Speaker 1: year old to hunt. And then fast forward two years, 865 00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:34,640 Speaker 1: like five six. Then you know, I saw there was 866 00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:37,960 Speaker 1: one buck that maybe was four one year, and then 867 00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,480 Speaker 1: the Holy Field years, you had this one buck that 868 00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,239 Speaker 1: kept coming back for three years in a row, made 869 00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,399 Speaker 1: it to five or six. That was that was cool 870 00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:48,080 Speaker 1: and that you're right, there's there's a couple of properties. 871 00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:51,239 Speaker 1: I think the act as sanctuaries. And then I do think, um, 872 00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:53,440 Speaker 1: and I want to pat myself on the back too 873 00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,680 Speaker 1: much here, but I I think it's probably fair to 874 00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:59,480 Speaker 1: say that the fact that I've been handling the property, 875 00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,200 Speaker 1: I can hunt with like kids gloves like white you know, 876 00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,239 Speaker 1: like white gloves, I think is the term like I'm 877 00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,200 Speaker 1: so careful, trying to be so clean when I hunt it. 878 00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:09,400 Speaker 1: I think that's probably helped and I've been trying to 879 00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,279 Speaker 1: improve habitat on it as much as I can. I 880 00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,160 Speaker 1: have a lot of good food out there most years now. 881 00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,600 Speaker 1: I think that's helped have more deer hang out of 882 00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,400 Speaker 1: my property. That then I'm the one that gets to 883 00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,920 Speaker 1: make the trigger decision on so instead of all these 884 00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:25,240 Speaker 1: bucks being all over the place and getting shot by everyone, 885 00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,520 Speaker 1: a disproportionate number hang out in my food sources where 886 00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:32,080 Speaker 1: I'm passing of them. So I do think that probably 887 00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:36,279 Speaker 1: has helped. Um. So you're right. I think there's a 888 00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:37,919 Speaker 1: good chance that could be a four year old again, 889 00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,640 Speaker 1: and I hope that Buck is going to be tran. 890 00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:42,600 Speaker 1: He was the three year old last year that I 891 00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,759 Speaker 1: saw a lot I did. Um. I've been starting to 892 00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,200 Speaker 1: put together a little spreadsheet on him and I have 893 00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:52,520 Speaker 1: I think the numbers fifteen different days during the hunting 894 00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:55,719 Speaker 1: season last year. I have either a daylight photos of 895 00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:59,160 Speaker 1: him or daylight actual visual encounters of him. So of 896 00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:02,320 Speaker 1: the three months season, so ninety days he was moving 897 00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:05,160 Speaker 1: fifteen days in daylight that I can confirm. That's pretty 898 00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:08,840 Speaker 1: good for Michigan buck. Um. So I think he's pretty 899 00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:10,719 Speaker 1: killable if he if he comes back. I have not 900 00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:14,160 Speaker 1: gotten a confirmed trial camera picture of him yet. Um 901 00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:16,479 Speaker 1: but my summer troal camera pictures around here are usually 902 00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:18,920 Speaker 1: pretty lousy anyway, so I'm not putting too much too 903 00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:23,359 Speaker 1: much into that. Um but yeah, definitely a four year 904 00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:27,400 Speaker 1: old or older. I did. I have been getting some 905 00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:32,200 Speaker 1: some scouting intel. There's a pretty darn nice ten pointer 906 00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,320 Speaker 1: I've been seeing here recently, saw three days in a 907 00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:38,080 Speaker 1: row last week, some across the road from the main property. 908 00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,720 Speaker 1: I can hunt a couple of days actually on the property. 909 00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:45,640 Speaker 1: I can hunt, and he he's either a really nice 910 00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:47,600 Speaker 1: three year old or like it's a good solid four 911 00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:49,560 Speaker 1: year old. I don't know yet, so hard to tell him, 912 00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:53,279 Speaker 1: like when they're standing chest high and soybeans and stuff. Um, 913 00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,359 Speaker 1: but if he's a four year old hill bear, no brainer. Um, 914 00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,760 Speaker 1: he's probably gonna be mid on a mid one thirties. 915 00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,319 Speaker 1: If I'm trying to be conservative with it, you could, 916 00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:05,600 Speaker 1: you know, he twisted my arm and I'm really excited. 917 00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:07,960 Speaker 1: I would say he's high one thirties. But in reality, 918 00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:09,759 Speaker 1: once the albot comes off, he's probably a little smaller. 919 00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:12,480 Speaker 1: But he's like a really nice Michigan buck any other year. 920 00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:14,719 Speaker 1: I mean, if I look back over all the years 921 00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:19,160 Speaker 1: I've hunted this property, Frank was obviously the biggest. This 922 00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:22,960 Speaker 1: buck would probably the second largest deer that I've had. Well, 923 00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,120 Speaker 1: there's there was one other mega giant that showed up 924 00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:28,160 Speaker 1: a couple of times in the summer, really early, but consistently. 925 00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:30,200 Speaker 1: If this buck sticks around, he'll be the second biggest 926 00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:32,560 Speaker 1: deer probably is that that's been here. If he becomes 927 00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:35,960 Speaker 1: a huntable buck, So so that's pretty cool. How far 928 00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,719 Speaker 1: is he how can you can you answer that? Or 929 00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:41,719 Speaker 1: from here? From that property? How far is you can 930 00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:45,719 Speaker 1: that property to make him unable? Oh? Well, twice I've 931 00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:48,560 Speaker 1: seen him on the property I can hunt, and then 932 00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:50,600 Speaker 1: once I saw him just across the road from it. 933 00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:53,759 Speaker 1: So very huntable. Um, if he you know, if his 934 00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,440 Speaker 1: summer range is the same as fault, if he stays around, 935 00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:59,600 Speaker 1: he seems like and I've got a bunch of pictures 936 00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:01,160 Speaker 1: of him too, So he's been very much on the 937 00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:04,480 Speaker 1: proper day hunt so far this summer. So figures crossed. 938 00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:07,880 Speaker 1: That could be a good situation. Um, But yeah, that 939 00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:09,920 Speaker 1: you don't have any You don't have any pictures of him. 940 00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,000 Speaker 1: You haven't pulled cards since you've seen him yet, have you? 941 00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:16,319 Speaker 1: I do have pictures of him. Yep, yep. I went 942 00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:19,360 Speaker 1: and looked back that original nice buck that I posted 943 00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:22,040 Speaker 1: pictures of right when I got back from Montana. That 944 00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:24,000 Speaker 1: was him. He just had him. He just hadn't grown 945 00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:26,480 Speaker 1: much time length it when I had that picture. Um. 946 00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:28,880 Speaker 1: And then I have multiple pictures of him like profile 947 00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:30,839 Speaker 1: view walking. I don't have any really good like head 948 00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:34,440 Speaker 1: on pictures of him, um, but multiple profile shots as 949 00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:39,840 Speaker 1: he walks to the side, you know. So it'll be 950 00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,920 Speaker 1: interesting to see what those dear do UM on that 951 00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,680 Speaker 1: main piece you can hunt now that it's like planet 952 00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,200 Speaker 1: and two different things. I think you said, that's the 953 00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:50,960 Speaker 1: first time that's happened since you've been there. Yeah, since 954 00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:52,799 Speaker 1: you've been hunting. It will be interesting to see how 955 00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:55,239 Speaker 1: that has a has an effect on which dear stay, 956 00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:58,919 Speaker 1: which dear leaves. Um. Maybe you'll hold more dear. It'll 957 00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:02,680 Speaker 1: be interesting to see. Okay, we need to take another 958 00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:06,600 Speaker 1: quick break here to thank our friends at Morton Buildings, 959 00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:09,920 Speaker 1: who are the builders of wood frame steel side of buildings. 960 00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:12,800 Speaker 1: If you need more space for your dear mounts, like 961 00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:14,799 Speaker 1: my wife is saying to me, or if you need 962 00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,440 Speaker 1: someone to store your tractor or want a building on 963 00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:19,480 Speaker 1: a new deer hunting property to put some bunks in, 964 00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:23,960 Speaker 1: or an a TV or a skinny check Morton Buildings 965 00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:27,520 Speaker 1: should be when the first options to check out. I'm 966 00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:29,840 Speaker 1: super intrigued. I keep on waiting to put one of 967 00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:33,279 Speaker 1: these up somewhere someday that as the hope. And I've 968 00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,680 Speaker 1: been learning more about they have to offer by visiting 969 00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:40,120 Speaker 1: Morton Buildings dot com, and I suggest you do the same. 970 00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:42,480 Speaker 1: And while we're at it, I also want to thank 971 00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:46,279 Speaker 1: Vortex Optics. And it's that time of year that I'm 972 00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,520 Speaker 1: out there watching bucks in the crop fields, and I 973 00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:51,120 Speaker 1: would say that a good spotting scope can make all 974 00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:55,560 Speaker 1: the difference and how enjoyable that kind of evening activity is. 975 00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:59,480 Speaker 1: I personally have been rocking the Vortex Viper HD scope 976 00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:02,560 Speaker 1: most often, and I'm using a phone scope attachment so 977 00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:04,480 Speaker 1: i can attach my phone to that scope and then 978 00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:08,080 Speaker 1: I can photograph and video deer with my iPhone. Really 979 00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:11,000 Speaker 1: easily turns out great. I love it. You also get 980 00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,480 Speaker 1: to see the screen, you know, instead of looking through 981 00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:15,960 Speaker 1: the I piece, which is great. But you can now 982 00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:18,200 Speaker 1: also attach your phone, which is super handy. And the 983 00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:21,640 Speaker 1: Vortex Viper HD gets me a nice crisp, clear image 984 00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:24,080 Speaker 1: and really reaches out there and touches these deer. So 985 00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:27,000 Speaker 1: if you're hoping to do something similar over these final 986 00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:29,360 Speaker 1: weeks leading up to the season, I'd encourage you to 987 00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:32,000 Speaker 1: check out what Vortex has to offer as far as 988 00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:35,400 Speaker 1: their spotting scopes, and you can find that at Vortex 989 00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:39,560 Speaker 1: Optics dot com. Yeah. I don't think I told you that, Dan, 990 00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:42,760 Speaker 1: But the main farm now is is usually it's always 991 00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:45,160 Speaker 1: just one type of crops either corner beans and it's 992 00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:47,440 Speaker 1: rotade every year. But this year, because of how wet 993 00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:50,200 Speaker 1: it was early, they planted corn on one side of 994 00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:52,560 Speaker 1: the farm, but they didn't plant the north side of 995 00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:54,800 Speaker 1: the farm until late in the summer or late in 996 00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:56,880 Speaker 1: the spring, and that's beans. So for the first time 997 00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:59,799 Speaker 1: I've got both major crops on the farm. Well that's 998 00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,400 Speaker 1: gonna help, I think. Yeah, I'm kind of excited to 999 00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:05,120 Speaker 1: see what that does for things. So so, yeah, I 1000 00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:06,920 Speaker 1: mean this new buck, we've been kind of calling him 1001 00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,800 Speaker 1: risky business, is what my buddy, well, you know, you know, Corey. 1002 00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:13,839 Speaker 1: Corey dubbed him risky business because if he's a three 1003 00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:16,360 Speaker 1: year old, he's like, it's very risky for him to 1004 00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:19,040 Speaker 1: come close to me because of how impressive he looks. Um, 1005 00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:21,120 Speaker 1: but I'm still on the fence. If he's a three 1006 00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:23,239 Speaker 1: year old, would I take that buck? I don't know, 1007 00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:24,960 Speaker 1: because he'd be, like I said, the second biggest y 1008 00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:27,239 Speaker 1: I've ever been on a hunt here. But he's not. 1009 00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:29,040 Speaker 1: If he's not a four year old, that makes him 1010 00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:30,680 Speaker 1: it's a tough decision for me. I don't know. I 1011 00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:34,040 Speaker 1: just kind of to feel that one out. Um, So 1012 00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:37,920 Speaker 1: r B is definitely one on paying attention to. And 1013 00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,480 Speaker 1: then I think Trans gonna show back up. But if 1014 00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:43,160 Speaker 1: Trans shows back up, he'll be a stud I think. 1015 00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:46,960 Speaker 1: So I'm I'm excited to see that. Um, what you 1016 00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:50,879 Speaker 1: should do is and I'm I'm doing this in quotations, 1017 00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:53,640 Speaker 1: and one's a regular quotations and one looks like a 1018 00:53:53,719 --> 00:54:00,600 Speaker 1: comma but finger quotes that. Oh yeah, I see, I 1019 00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:07,560 Speaker 1: get it now, Okay, I should apostrophe yeah anyway, but anyway, yeah, idiot, 1020 00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:12,239 Speaker 1: but you should accidentally take a lawnmower and run over 1021 00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:17,480 Speaker 1: some of those beans, knock them down, or or do 1022 00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:21,720 Speaker 1: it legally and not accidentally run over him. But asked 1023 00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:23,560 Speaker 1: the farmer to see if he can keep some of 1024 00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:26,440 Speaker 1: them up. That would be nice. Pay him, pay him 1025 00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:30,319 Speaker 1: like you know, paying for However, many bushels come out 1026 00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:31,799 Speaker 1: of an acre and they say, hey, maybe we leave 1027 00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:34,439 Speaker 1: an acre beans up, or you know, a half acre 1028 00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:37,320 Speaker 1: or something like that. It would be awesome to have 1029 00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:40,200 Speaker 1: an acre standing beans. I mean that that pull them in, 1030 00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:43,239 Speaker 1: no doubt about that. I'm always amazed though here how 1031 00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:47,560 Speaker 1: much they they they hammer the bean fields even after 1032 00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:51,279 Speaker 1: they're they're harvested for a long time. There must be 1033 00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:54,120 Speaker 1: a lot of waste screen. This farmer's combine must miss 1034 00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:56,800 Speaker 1: a lot because they stay on those picked fields for 1035 00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:59,440 Speaker 1: much longer than I've seen in many other places. So 1036 00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:03,319 Speaker 1: it's always it seems to be. I get a lot 1037 00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:06,360 Speaker 1: of good food source actions still well into late season, 1038 00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:10,160 Speaker 1: so we'll see. It's gonna be interesting hunting, like you know, 1039 00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:12,120 Speaker 1: kind of similar to you on your main farm. I've 1040 00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:14,160 Speaker 1: been hunting this main farm now for eight years or 1041 00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:16,360 Speaker 1: something like that, so I have a lot of experience 1042 00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:17,600 Speaker 1: with it. I didn't have to do a lot of 1043 00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:20,200 Speaker 1: new work on it. I just check the straps on 1044 00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:24,560 Speaker 1: my existing stands. I prepped one new location. UM, I 1045 00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:28,319 Speaker 1: gotta finalize my food plots. I'm still dealing with that. UM. 1046 00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:31,480 Speaker 1: But I know kind of what's happening. I'll hunt my 1047 00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:33,640 Speaker 1: main spots until I see different behavior, and if I 1048 00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:35,520 Speaker 1: see different behavior, I'll just run and gun hang a 1049 00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:38,520 Speaker 1: saddle somewhere new. Um, But I don't need to reinvent 1050 00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:40,279 Speaker 1: the whealel. I don't think I've got a pretty good 1051 00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:43,120 Speaker 1: handle on what's happening. So I do have a new 1052 00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:45,560 Speaker 1: farm I'm hunting this year on that Joshua hunt. A 1053 00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:47,480 Speaker 1: couple of times. We've probably been doing some work out 1054 00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:49,960 Speaker 1: there recently, and and that will be a brand new 1055 00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:52,360 Speaker 1: one and that will be some new a lot of 1056 00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:54,799 Speaker 1: a lot of learning to do there, So I don't 1057 00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:57,680 Speaker 1: know what to expect if if you know, I still 1058 00:55:57,719 --> 00:55:59,799 Speaker 1: haven't gotten any trout camera pictures of the mature buck 1059 00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:02,640 Speaker 1: out there, so I don't know what's there, but I 1060 00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:05,759 Speaker 1: gotta believe there would be something eventually. So that's like 1061 00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:07,840 Speaker 1: a big TB D. I don't have a whole lot 1062 00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:10,160 Speaker 1: of exciting stuff to share, but but hopefully by the 1063 00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:12,520 Speaker 1: time season comes around, that will be like my second 1064 00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:16,239 Speaker 1: really good kind of local spot and we'll have something 1065 00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:20,200 Speaker 1: to talk about there at that point. But question marks otherwise, 1066 00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:23,719 Speaker 1: and I guess the one other the one other hunt. 1067 00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:25,800 Speaker 1: I told you last time we talked about our schedule 1068 00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:27,640 Speaker 1: that I was going to try to do this New 1069 00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:30,560 Speaker 1: York hunt and do like a big woods tracking a 1070 00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:33,600 Speaker 1: deer in the snow. That one fell through, but it's 1071 00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:39,120 Speaker 1: been replaced with a late season muzzleloader hunt in Nebraska 1072 00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:43,399 Speaker 1: with a bunch of the Mediator crew. So I'm gonna 1073 00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:46,480 Speaker 1: tryt some public land, um late in the year out 1074 00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:48,520 Speaker 1: there and see what that's like. So that would be 1075 00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:50,520 Speaker 1: a wild card. I have no expectations. I don't know 1076 00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:52,680 Speaker 1: what that will be like, but um, that would be 1077 00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:56,080 Speaker 1: a fun time to get out there and explore a 1078 00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,719 Speaker 1: different landscape again. So that's it. And it's paid for 1079 00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:01,920 Speaker 1: by the company. That is a it's it's nice to 1080 00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:04,719 Speaker 1: be able to have my hunting be work as well. 1081 00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:08,920 Speaker 1: So that's what my season looks like. It's it's it's 1082 00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:14,480 Speaker 1: gonna be a busy one. And did we talk about 1083 00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:16,960 Speaker 1: this on the podcast yet? Did I tell you this? Dan? 1084 00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:20,120 Speaker 1: I don't know if I did tell you this. This 1085 00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:23,320 Speaker 1: is what I've got a second child in the way. 1086 00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:25,480 Speaker 1: Did I tell you that? I didn't know that until 1087 00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:29,400 Speaker 1: right now. Yes, It's I'm so like lost on like 1088 00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:31,200 Speaker 1: who knows and what Yeah, we got another one on 1089 00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:33,800 Speaker 1: the way, so that makes him a little interesting. Get 1090 00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:38,760 Speaker 1: that a stack to me, buddy, I know, yea, yeah, 1091 00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:44,080 Speaker 1: this is the end for us, so good. Well, first off, congratulations, thanks, 1092 00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:48,080 Speaker 1: thank you. Yeah, number two is a little scary though 1093 00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:52,320 Speaker 1: everything you told me. All right, now, how old your 1094 00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:54,760 Speaker 1: how old your boy? Right now? He's a little over 1095 00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:56,720 Speaker 1: a year and a half now, a little over a 1096 00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:58,840 Speaker 1: year and a half. Okay, cool, So he's really close 1097 00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:04,040 Speaker 1: to my uh my son. So let's see. Do you 1098 00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:05,480 Speaker 1: know if it's a boy or a girl yet? We 1099 00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:07,520 Speaker 1: do not know yet? Do not you know? Are you 1100 00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:09,600 Speaker 1: gonna find out? We are going to find out. We'll 1101 00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:14,600 Speaker 1: get to find out in September. Cool. Well, congratulations, and 1102 00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:17,720 Speaker 1: yeah I don't have three, I guess. I mean, I 1103 00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:20,240 Speaker 1: don't know what else to say. Any any any advice 1104 00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:22,920 Speaker 1: for having a toddler and a pregnant wife at the 1105 00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:26,520 Speaker 1: same time. How should I deal with that during hunting season? Anything? 1106 00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:29,120 Speaker 1: I need to be a little more careful about. Man, 1107 00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:30,920 Speaker 1: You get out of the house, that's how you deal. 1108 00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:35,880 Speaker 1: Just get out, leave for a week in Minnesota with 1109 00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:42,479 Speaker 1: no service and Nebraska. Yeah, my wife's uh, it's it's 1110 00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:44,880 Speaker 1: should be the exact same due date that ever was 1111 00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:49,400 Speaker 1: so early February early February. Were you planning for this? 1112 00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:55,080 Speaker 1: I mean, given your respective career, were you planning to 1113 00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:59,560 Speaker 1: have a baby after January? We definitely, we weren't planning 1114 00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:02,200 Speaker 1: everyone yet. We were thinking like a little bit later, 1115 00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:04,800 Speaker 1: we would try, like a few like handful months later, 1116 00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:09,280 Speaker 1: maybe we'd start, you know, trying to make that happen. Um, say, 1117 00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:14,400 Speaker 1: were you about to say, start exploring, experimenting, but maybe 1118 00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:20,400 Speaker 1: that try because this time, you know, we're gonna explore 1119 00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:23,920 Speaker 1: each other's bodies. This time, I was trying to avoid 1120 00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:30,640 Speaker 1: this conversation. Uh so, yeah, we're we we definitely do 1121 00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:33,440 Speaker 1: try to keep hunting season in mind. Um, so we 1122 00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:35,160 Speaker 1: wanted to avoid hunting season. But it was a little 1123 00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:38,280 Speaker 1: bit of a surprise, but but certainly not so outside 1124 00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:42,080 Speaker 1: of the real and possibility that it was totally shocking. 1125 00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:45,080 Speaker 1: So yeah, we're excited. But of course it brings all 1126 00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:47,480 Speaker 1: sorts of new things to mind, and and that will 1127 00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:49,560 Speaker 1: probably change my hunting season a little bit. If if 1128 00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:52,120 Speaker 1: you know, if the pregnancies more of a struggle for her, 1129 00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:54,160 Speaker 1: if she's not feeling well or whatever, that I might 1130 00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:57,680 Speaker 1: need to cut back on some stuff and be around more. 1131 00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:00,440 Speaker 1: But um, yeah, this will be the last time season 1132 01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:03,280 Speaker 1: with just one, so I gotta take advantage of it. 1133 01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:07,680 Speaker 1: I supposed to. I've got one final thing I want 1134 01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:09,840 Speaker 1: to cover with everyone because I feel we've covered our plans, 1135 01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:12,760 Speaker 1: We've covered our big goals. Um, you know my big 1136 01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:16,840 Speaker 1: goal was mature buck in North Dakota, survive Minnesota. I 1137 01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:19,720 Speaker 1: think I can kill two mature bucks in Michigan between 1138 01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:22,360 Speaker 1: the three different farms I talked about, and then Nebraska. 1139 01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:26,160 Speaker 1: Just have a good time. Um, no expectations there. UM. 1140 01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:29,960 Speaker 1: I want us each to think of a challenge for 1141 01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:34,120 Speaker 1: one of the other two here, so you can we 1142 01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:36,280 Speaker 1: could either give a challenge to each person or if 1143 01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:38,560 Speaker 1: we just want to each pick someone and give them 1144 01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:40,320 Speaker 1: a chance. We've done this in the past year's Dan, 1145 01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:43,600 Speaker 1: We're gonna give one piece of advice or one thing 1146 01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:46,880 Speaker 1: we want the other guy to do this coming season 1147 01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:49,240 Speaker 1: or in the coming weeks leading up to this season. 1148 01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:52,840 Speaker 1: So we've got just something to push us a little harder. 1149 01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:57,200 Speaker 1: So I've got a couple. I've got one for each 1150 01:00:57,240 --> 01:01:00,040 Speaker 1: of you. Um, and then I'll give you guy, it 1151 01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:05,640 Speaker 1: is time to think of yours. So for Josh, my 1152 01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:10,200 Speaker 1: challenge for you is to we kind of have already 1153 01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:12,720 Speaker 1: touched on this, but I still want to lock down 1154 01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:15,600 Speaker 1: one good piece of private land that you can hunt 1155 01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:19,400 Speaker 1: without having to ask someone else if you can do it. So, 1156 01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:22,360 Speaker 1: if that's this one piece that you've already been talking about, 1157 01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:25,040 Speaker 1: if you've got a position now that you can hunted 1158 01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:27,320 Speaker 1: on your own and you're in good place, just lock 1159 01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:29,480 Speaker 1: that down. My challenge for you is to get that 1160 01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:31,920 Speaker 1: locked and to get it prepped so that you can 1161 01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:34,200 Speaker 1: be out there in early November whenever you find the 1162 01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:37,160 Speaker 1: time and you can get that buck. So that's my 1163 01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:40,680 Speaker 1: personal challenge to you. I really want to see you 1164 01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:42,720 Speaker 1: kill a good one in Michigan this year. I like that. 1165 01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:44,760 Speaker 1: I think that's a good one because that would be 1166 01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:48,920 Speaker 1: the challenge I would have given myself. Maybe it's too easy. 1167 01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:53,720 Speaker 1: My challenge for Dan, because of some of the struggle 1168 01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:56,000 Speaker 1: not struggles, but challenges that both you and I have 1169 01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:58,040 Speaker 1: had over the years, and we've talked about it, my 1170 01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:02,720 Speaker 1: challenge to you is to try to find time to 1171 01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:07,520 Speaker 1: continue your bow practice in season, so make sure that 1172 01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:09,880 Speaker 1: the season doesn't hit and then you just are running 1173 01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:12,400 Speaker 1: around and you don't shoot your bow anymore. We gotta 1174 01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:15,280 Speaker 1: we both need to have some killer shots on deer 1175 01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:17,800 Speaker 1: this year, I think, and I think for both of 1176 01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:20,360 Speaker 1: us to do that, we gotta keep keep up our 1177 01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:22,120 Speaker 1: good habits or working on Now. We got to keep 1178 01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:24,160 Speaker 1: that all the way through the season so we don't 1179 01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:25,960 Speaker 1: all of a sudden have a month that passes by 1180 01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:27,600 Speaker 1: during the season we haven't been shooting her bow. So 1181 01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:31,880 Speaker 1: that's my personal challenge to you. Um, those are my two. 1182 01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:33,880 Speaker 1: Do either one of you have an idea that you 1183 01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:37,240 Speaker 1: want to share for any of us. I will say 1184 01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:41,280 Speaker 1: something to Josh, And this is in all seriousness, by 1185 01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:42,920 Speaker 1: the way, It's not meant to be a joke. But 1186 01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:47,320 Speaker 1: you only have one kid, and I heard you. I 1187 01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:49,800 Speaker 1: heard you already talking about man, I gotta make sure 1188 01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:53,560 Speaker 1: I get home and and be there for my wife 1189 01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:57,200 Speaker 1: when she needs me and family. How old your kid now? 1190 01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:00,520 Speaker 1: Just a couple of months? Six weeks old? Okay, six 1191 01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:04,920 Speaker 1: weeks right, so that is probably the easiest age to 1192 01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:10,280 Speaker 1: take care of a child. Yeah, right, do like this 1193 01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:14,480 Speaker 1: is this is and I know it's stressful time a year, 1194 01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:17,960 Speaker 1: you know you're you're just new parents, but one kid 1195 01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:21,880 Speaker 1: is easier to take is easier to watch than two kids. 1196 01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:25,240 Speaker 1: Two kids are easier to watch than three kids. A 1197 01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:29,920 Speaker 1: baby is easier to watch than a toddler. A toddler. 1198 01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:31,760 Speaker 1: A toddler is easier to watch them. And then you 1199 01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:35,480 Speaker 1: get into activities and you're hunting. Is time as you 1200 01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:39,080 Speaker 1: get older with your family is actually going to shrink. 1201 01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:42,440 Speaker 1: So my challenge to you is, although you do have 1202 01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:47,080 Speaker 1: a kid, take advantage of this time to still continue 1203 01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:50,040 Speaker 1: to hunt and make sure you put in time for 1204 01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:52,520 Speaker 1: hunting to I mean, it's your passion, right, Like I said, 1205 01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:56,720 Speaker 1: I think it, I think it will. I think I'm 1206 01:03:56,760 --> 01:03:58,720 Speaker 1: confident that like we'll kind of figure it out right, 1207 01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:02,240 Speaker 1: we'll settle into like a good, um, a good routine 1208 01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:04,560 Speaker 1: with him, and I think I'll have more time than 1209 01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:07,120 Speaker 1: maybe what I'm thinking I will right now. Um, So 1210 01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:09,880 Speaker 1: that's that's what I'm hoping for anyway. Um So, no, 1211 01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:14,200 Speaker 1: I think that's that's some great points there. Yeah. And 1212 01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:16,720 Speaker 1: then for Mark Man, I don't I don't know. I'm 1213 01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:18,440 Speaker 1: just I wish I could hunt as much as you. 1214 01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:22,160 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't necessarily have a challenge for 1215 01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:26,520 Speaker 1: you other than I know there's times on some of 1216 01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:31,760 Speaker 1: your farms where I you play on the side of caution. 1217 01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:36,800 Speaker 1: And I almost feel like there's a time, especially a year, 1218 01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:41,040 Speaker 1: where you're coming off killing an absolute stud animal, to 1219 01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:44,640 Speaker 1: to try and be aggressive. And maybe I'm wrong and 1220 01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:48,800 Speaker 1: an aggressive move doesn't work, but maybe I'm right in 1221 01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:53,280 Speaker 1: an aggressive move maybe early in the season or um, 1222 01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:56,479 Speaker 1: when a deer pops up and you take a slow 1223 01:04:56,560 --> 01:04:58,960 Speaker 1: step first before you take the fast step, take the 1224 01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:02,760 Speaker 1: fast step first, and see what happens. I like it. 1225 01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:06,760 Speaker 1: I definitely. I feel like every year that's something that 1226 01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:08,400 Speaker 1: I liked that I have in the back of my 1227 01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:10,600 Speaker 1: mind too, is I'm getting more and more comfortable with 1228 01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:13,520 Speaker 1: being a little more aggressive. So I think that's a 1229 01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:18,880 Speaker 1: good challenge. Thank you for that, Dan, Josh you anything, Yeah, yeah, 1230 01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:21,400 Speaker 1: I'm still thinking of one for Dan here, but I 1231 01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:23,520 Speaker 1: got one for you. And we've talked a little bit 1232 01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:26,160 Speaker 1: about it before, probably on air and off air, but 1233 01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:29,440 Speaker 1: just to just to make sure you're you're you're enjoying 1234 01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:31,880 Speaker 1: it right, like not stressing yourself out too much about 1235 01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:35,520 Speaker 1: um what you need to be doing and and um, 1236 01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:38,640 Speaker 1: just making sure you remember what it's all about and 1237 01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:42,200 Speaker 1: uh have a good time. UM. That would be my 1238 01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:45,320 Speaker 1: my one challenge, and I think you've you've come along 1239 01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:49,160 Speaker 1: way with that. I think probably um, having ever written, 1240 01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:50,880 Speaker 1: having a year that you had last year kind of 1241 01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:54,080 Speaker 1: helped put things in perspective. But I just I worry 1242 01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:56,200 Speaker 1: about you when you get stressed out about stuff. So 1243 01:05:56,800 --> 01:06:00,280 Speaker 1: just keep keep that all in perspective and what getting 1244 01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:03,600 Speaker 1: to do? Um and Dan Man, I don't I don't know. UM, 1245 01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:08,040 Speaker 1: I think maybe along your lines of stuff, being aggressive. 1246 01:06:08,080 --> 01:06:10,480 Speaker 1: I know you're gonna be on a couple of out 1247 01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:12,160 Speaker 1: of state hunts that are probably going to be what 1248 01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:14,720 Speaker 1: just a week in time, and just making sure you 1249 01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:17,080 Speaker 1: stay aggressive. I think that was one of my mistakes 1250 01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:20,400 Speaker 1: in North Dakota last year, was not being aggressive enough. Um. 1251 01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:23,480 Speaker 1: So yeah, just just stay after him, getting tight on 1252 01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:25,840 Speaker 1: him if you can. And and uh, you only got 1253 01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:28,440 Speaker 1: a week, can't screw it up too bad. So that's right, 1254 01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:32,200 Speaker 1: that's right. And it's public land, so it's almost like 1255 01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:36,200 Speaker 1: it's meant to be screwed, screwed exactly. True. I've got 1256 01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:39,280 Speaker 1: one more actually for all three of us, and it 1257 01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:41,600 Speaker 1: kind of ties into situations that we're all in for 1258 01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:45,520 Speaker 1: different reasons. Um. You know, Dan, you and I have 1259 01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:50,240 Speaker 1: had at times occasional struggles with rushing our shots and stuff. Josh, 1260 01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:54,680 Speaker 1: you haven't necessarily had that problem, but you know you're 1261 01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:57,960 Speaker 1: still you know, I haven't hunt you haven't killed two 1262 01:06:57,960 --> 01:07:00,760 Speaker 1: billion deer yet. Um So, I think all three of 1263 01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:03,840 Speaker 1: us a good thing to do would be to try 1264 01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:06,880 Speaker 1: to kill more deer in general, like kill more does 1265 01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:09,240 Speaker 1: this year, just because we had this conversation with Mark 1266 01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:11,800 Speaker 1: Drew the other day and that there's nothing that prepares 1267 01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:14,400 Speaker 1: you to handle the moment of truth better than just 1268 01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:17,360 Speaker 1: being in it often, being in that moment often and 1269 01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:19,600 Speaker 1: dealing with it. And so for me, dealing with these 1270 01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:22,160 Speaker 1: different variations of target panic over the last couple of 1271 01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:25,680 Speaker 1: years and trying to just lock down a better shot process. 1272 01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:28,440 Speaker 1: Um I switched this back tension release that we've been 1273 01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:31,000 Speaker 1: talking about, and for me, a personal goal is to 1274 01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:34,440 Speaker 1: is to shoot more deer with my bow using that 1275 01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:37,400 Speaker 1: back tension release, just to have like a newfound, rock 1276 01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:41,520 Speaker 1: solid confidence in that thing. Um So, personally, I want 1277 01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:45,560 Speaker 1: to target does earlier than usual, early and often, and 1278 01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:50,479 Speaker 1: go into the rut like feeling like ice cold gonna 1279 01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:53,240 Speaker 1: make it happen no matter what, because I've already yeah, 1280 01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:55,360 Speaker 1: because I've already put three doughs in the ground or 1281 01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:57,640 Speaker 1: whatever it is, and I've had perfect shots, like I 1282 01:07:57,720 --> 01:07:59,480 Speaker 1: want perfect shots this year. I don't want to have 1283 01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:01,600 Speaker 1: a shot that's like when I was a little back 1284 01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:04,240 Speaker 1: or I was a little high, but I got him. Um. 1285 01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:06,360 Speaker 1: I've had too many shots like that over the years 1286 01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:08,240 Speaker 1: that they got the job done. I've been very fortunate 1287 01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:11,520 Speaker 1: only wound one dear I didn't find right away. Um, 1288 01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:13,600 Speaker 1: but I don't want to have as well it was Okay, 1289 01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:17,200 Speaker 1: I want perfect shots this year. That's my big goal 1290 01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:20,640 Speaker 1: for myself. Um. Some I'm working hard trying to make 1291 01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:23,360 Speaker 1: it happen. And um, we'll see if it comes together. 1292 01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:25,040 Speaker 1: But that's what I'm trying to push myself to do. 1293 01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:29,680 Speaker 1: So with that, I think we've covered a lot of ground. Um, 1294 01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:31,559 Speaker 1: I'm good to wrap it up. A few guys there, 1295 01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:36,240 Speaker 1: I gotta go fishing, so yeah, let's wrap it up. Nice. 1296 01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:39,040 Speaker 1: Got your living the dream now? Man, that's all right. 1297 01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:42,599 Speaker 1: You should have seen my week this week. I deserve 1298 01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:45,280 Speaker 1: to go fishing, all right, You deserve to go fishing. 1299 01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:52,840 Speaker 1: Three kids doesn't sound so bad, seriously, all right, guys, Well, 1300 01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:55,840 Speaker 1: thank you Dan, thank you Josh, and uh, before you 1301 01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:57,360 Speaker 1: know it, a few more weeks when we be out 1302 01:08:57,400 --> 01:09:00,519 Speaker 1: there with the bows and arrows, so oh, let's get 1303 01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:06,000 Speaker 1: after it and that will do it. Another episode is 1304 01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:09,400 Speaker 1: on the shelf. Hopefully guys enjoyed this fun one bs 1305 01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:12,000 Speaker 1: and a little bit and uh setting things up for 1306 01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:14,040 Speaker 1: the upcoming season. As you know, we'd like to have 1307 01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:17,120 Speaker 1: these in depth interviews with different experts across the country. 1308 01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:19,360 Speaker 1: But then I also think it's important that we share 1309 01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:22,000 Speaker 1: our own personal stories so you can kind of see 1310 01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:24,680 Speaker 1: how we're trying to implement the different ideas that we're 1311 01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:27,559 Speaker 1: learning from all these guests throughout the year. So now 1312 01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:29,400 Speaker 1: you know kind of what we're shooting for, what we're 1313 01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:32,000 Speaker 1: trying for, what's up to come in the coming weeks 1314 01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:35,120 Speaker 1: and months, and hopefully you'll follow along, hopefully you have 1315 01:09:35,360 --> 01:09:38,160 Speaker 1: some some exciting trips and hunts of your own, and 1316 01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:40,839 Speaker 1: hopefully laid out some goals you can be working towards. 1317 01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:44,120 Speaker 1: And Uh. In the meantime, I just want to thank 1318 01:09:44,160 --> 01:09:46,800 Speaker 1: you for spending this time with us, thanks for laughing along, 1319 01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:49,400 Speaker 1: for following along with our journey, and when we chat 1320 01:09:49,439 --> 01:09:53,320 Speaker 1: to you next, I hope you'll stay wired to hunt