Speaker 1: My League Bucks has all the knowledge you want. My
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Speaker 1: they have all the books that the whole wild world
Speaker 1: want to read. My League Books. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to
Speaker 1: me Leak's Book Show, bringing a world together where books, culture,
Speaker 1: and community. We had an explosive week. I was able
Speaker 1: to interview a celebrity photographer, Correl Augustus in his new
Speaker 1: book just came out called Black Hollywood Reimagining Iconic Movies.
Speaker 1: This is an extraordinary book because it took actors and
Speaker 1: actresses they are black, and he reimagined them in movies
Speaker 1: like Breakfast at Tiffany, Black to the Future, King Kong,
Speaker 1: and Charlie Chaplin and so many the others. I can
Speaker 1: go on and on because it's a beautiful picture art
Speaker 1: book with nothing but beautiful, colorful photographs of all the
Speaker 1: people you see in all the movies and entertainment. I
Speaker 1: also have on this feature episode a continuation of the
Speaker 1: Bobby Shop Talks that I started about three episodes ago.
Speaker 1: So I believe this should be episode four, and so
Speaker 1: I'm gonna continue with these Bomby Shop talp because I
Speaker 1: really think they're raw they're exciting and they, you know,
Speaker 1: have someone's deep rooted opinions and beliefs, and there's no sugarcoat,
Speaker 1: and there's men talking to men. So enjoy that. Part four,
Speaker 1: the Boby Shop Talks And the name of this episode
Speaker 1: is called Black Hollywood because we took over Hollywood with
Speaker 1: four hundred people in attendance at the big book launch
Speaker 1: of Black Hollywood Reimagine the iconic movies. Let me tell
Speaker 1: you who showed up because it was with list. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you a little bit of who showed up
Speaker 1: because it was like about fifteen actors and actions in
Speaker 1: the book they showed up. But Amber West, Tiffany Hynes,
Speaker 1: Rochelle Teach, Marla Gives ninety one years Older in the House,
Speaker 1: Eugene Byrd, Kelly Pratt, Jessica Rabbit, and so many more
Speaker 1: showed up. And it was the largest book signing I
Speaker 1: ever participated in. I mean, the table of thirteen people
Speaker 1: signing one book was amazing and they was only supposed
Speaker 1: to be an out, but they was there until the
Speaker 1: conclusion of the event, signed everybody's book and it was
Speaker 1: just four hundred people having a good old time. Calling
Speaker 1: it Black Hollywood. So Hey, Episode forty four honored to
Speaker 1: have Correl Augustus, the celebrity photographer author of Black Hollywood,
Speaker 1: was just released today Imagine reimagining iconic movie moments. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to interview him for what Malik's bookshelf
Speaker 1: bringing the world together with books, culture and community. Now
Speaker 1: that I got you in my space, Correl, I got
Speaker 1: the interview you from a podcast. The day is the
Speaker 1: released day. How you feel and tell me the emotions
Speaker 1: and so forth that you are feeling the day that
Speaker 1: that your book has been released twelve year Journey right
Speaker 1: February ten, and uh, it just it feels surreal. If
Speaker 1: somebody woke me up from a dream right now would
Speaker 1: make that would make better sense. But it feels phenomenal.
Speaker 1: It's being received really well, and I'm just excited about it.
Speaker 1: I'm happy that the world's gonna chance to see it
Speaker 1: and uh, hopefully everybody enjoyed of it. You know, to
Speaker 1: have volume two momentarily, Well, this is a wonderful and
Speaker 1: beautiful picture. Tell us about some of the pictures in
Speaker 1: the book and some of the actors and actresses that
Speaker 1: you have in this wonderful, beautiful book. Yeah, we got
Speaker 1: shamarrow More, we got Vivica Fox, we got Lauren London,
Speaker 1: and we've got both Vanessa Williams. We have the Deally
Speaker 1: they parted, Nelson Ellis and uh Blair Underwood, Michael J.
Speaker 1: White or Mariy Hoddwick. You know, let's go on to
Speaker 1: j Ellis, who's in Top Gun right now, one of
Speaker 1: the most biggest grossing films of all time. Artist Hodge,
Speaker 1: Who's gonna be in Black Adam and a week and
Speaker 1: a half. So he has two premiers. He has Black
Speaker 1: Hollywood and he has Black Adam. And I'm happy to
Speaker 1: have I'm happy to have him, you know what I mean. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just a phenomenal time and the time it is.
Speaker 1: Let's break it down because it's reimagining iconic movie moments.
Speaker 1: So basically what you're doing, they describe what you did,
Speaker 1: and a little about some of the actors and actors
Speaker 1: and what pictures did you shoot them in? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: So what I did was I I basically took all
Speaker 1: them a lot of the films and imagery that we
Speaker 1: know and love from watching TV in this country. And
Speaker 1: you know, we grew up with these characters just like
Speaker 1: everybody else. But for whatever reason, they didn't look like us,
Speaker 1: and nobody thought it was important for them to look
Speaker 1: at us looked like us, and and you know, applied
Speaker 1: whatever lifestyle they had to our own. So what I
Speaker 1: did was, I just asked, you know, Vanessuatings to come
Speaker 1: back and do Cleopatra, because she's always been a Cleopatra
Speaker 1: of eyes. And you know, for the cover, we had
Speaker 1: the one and only Miss Amber Stephen's West and we know,
Speaker 1: for a fucking historically clear Patra was a black woman
Speaker 1: from Egypt. That's what they That's what we know for
Speaker 1: a fact. Yeah, but when they casted it, different story,
Speaker 1: and then people go out believing that, and we never
Speaker 1: developed a sense of um self worth. Yeah, based on imagery.
Speaker 1: You know, we always get otherwise, other other rise and
Speaker 1: written out of our own stories. But that changed today.
Speaker 1: That changed today changed because we got black Hollywood reimagining
Speaker 1: iconic movie movement. Who else you have cash in the
Speaker 1: pictures that you cast me? Yeah, I got Kyla Pratt
Speaker 1: as Bewitched. So she's on the broom, flying through the sky.
Speaker 1: She's giving you that look because we all know what
Speaker 1: we're doing here. And that's why I want of the
Speaker 1: actors and actresses, because I wanted people to be able
Speaker 1: to emote emotions and emote you know, the fact that
Speaker 1: we understand what's happening, but do you That's what That's
Speaker 1: what the trick is. There's a couple of nuggets in
Speaker 1: the book that I want people to sort of figure
Speaker 1: out for themselves. We're on the front cover. You have
Speaker 1: Breakfast at Tiffany. Who is it? That's Amber Stephen's West.
Speaker 1: She is beautiful and she used to be on a
Speaker 1: TV show called Greek and I only ever wanted her
Speaker 1: for this picture. I had no idea what the cover
Speaker 1: was ultimately gonna be, but chose wisely and I think
Speaker 1: it's a great cover. I think it welcomes you into
Speaker 1: what's happening, and when you flip through the pages, it
Speaker 1: will make all all of it just ties in together.
Speaker 1: When I show the cover, just oh, that's Breakfast at Tiffany.
Speaker 1: You're doing instantly right then you got back to the
Speaker 1: future that I got black to the future. Back to
Speaker 1: the future, Yeah, that was actually written in the actual picture,
Speaker 1: in the same font as the movie poster. But we
Speaker 1: got a little freaked out about being sued, so we
Speaker 1: we we took out we kept out the words. But
Speaker 1: you know, I got a special edition that's gonna come
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna add it back in the Okay, Okay,
Speaker 1: you got shiny, we got the shining with the Mr
Speaker 1: Mr Blair Underwood that he Blair Underweard for me is Hollywood.
Speaker 1: He's the king of stage, the king of movies and TV. Like,
Speaker 1: what more do you need? And I was floored when
Speaker 1: he said he would uh pose for me and do
Speaker 1: the book and I had some stuff to show him.
Speaker 1: He actually just started following me on Instagram, which is
Speaker 1: actually big deal because now they see that I didn't
Speaker 1: waste the time and it was worthy of them participating.
Speaker 1: And so, um, I know somebody played King Kong. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. When she when you know in
Speaker 1: the movie King Kong, you know the white woman, you
Speaker 1: know some dude, you know, the savage beast that yeah,
Speaker 1: that is the beautiful Rochelle Yates. And she also ended
Speaker 1: up on the calendar the color of the cover of
Speaker 1: the calendar. And it was just certain people that had
Speaker 1: just a certain quality about them that made the shot
Speaker 1: make more sense. And when I asked her to be photographed,
Speaker 1: that was one we had to do sort of and
Speaker 1: post and I could see that, you know, she didn't
Speaker 1: quite it didn't like make sense, but she trusted the
Speaker 1: process and it's one of my favorite shots. And that's
Speaker 1: actually my hand on the cover, in my hand because
Speaker 1: I looked and looked and looked in Hollywood at our
Speaker 1: houses trying to find a great replica of the hand,
Speaker 1: and I just couldn't find money. So we did the
Speaker 1: next best thing. Now, we did a launch party, the
Speaker 1: Black Hollywood Launch Party. Come on, just last seven, Come on, like, seriously,
Speaker 1: I do. I'm going to be high off that for
Speaker 1: probably a year. Yes, if I get down and out
Speaker 1: about anything. Signing that you had about what twelve thirteen
Speaker 1: celebrities did you shot in your book Black Hollywood appeared.
Speaker 1: I don't even know how many we had. Um, I
Speaker 1: didn't even count, but I will. I don't know. It
Speaker 1: wasn't even it wasn't It wasn't a quarter of the
Speaker 1: people that's in the book, but it was a perfect amount.
Speaker 1: Because as you know, that signing took about three hours,
Speaker 1: and we didn't really factor that in or anticipate that,
Speaker 1: but but we just tried to meet the moment. The
Speaker 1: crowd was so massive, four hundred plus and you had
Speaker 1: ninety one year old Mala gives in. Then she signed
Speaker 1: every book in front of her. She signed every book
Speaker 1: in front of her, and she smiled, and she took
Speaker 1: pictures and she's all over my friends Facebook and Instagram
Speaker 1: and my family members. You know, I wanted. I wanted
Speaker 1: to give people a moment that don't have those moments
Speaker 1: that you that we saw our whole lives. You know,
Speaker 1: you know what you cast her and in the book
Speaker 1: I did, I did. It was an old It wasn't
Speaker 1: a very specific shot. I just wanted to do her
Speaker 1: because we have a legend like Marla Gibbs. You just
Speaker 1: want to on her her And I just said, let's
Speaker 1: do an old Hollywood throwback with the lighting and the
Speaker 1: clothes she had on. And it worked perfect And yeah, perfect,
Speaker 1: it worked. George Devison met his match. Yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: yes man, that I mean the party was off the chain.
Speaker 1: You have a good time. We had a wonderful time.
Speaker 1: We party, We signed books, we sold books, we sold calendars,
Speaker 1: and the crowd was in wati boat. It was. They
Speaker 1: were beautiful people wore they sup red carpet of fair
Speaker 1: you know, we took tons of pictures. Videos in Hollywood
Speaker 1: is still buzzing from it. Articles now being written. You
Speaker 1: just had one come up to date today any time
Speaker 1: you wrote an article about the book, which I'm really
Speaker 1: excited about. And man, it's it's it's cloud nine. We
Speaker 1: just we just make sure Oprah got her copy of
Speaker 1: the book. Yeah, you know, show you signed it though
Speaker 1: before you send it, right, we sent it direct, but
Speaker 1: hopefully she'll call me so I can sign it presence. Right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I met Oprah. She actually had a wristband of mine
Speaker 1: and we have a great picture together. She goes, when
Speaker 1: you're ready, bring it to me, and I'm ready. You
Speaker 1: went through twelve years. You forged through doubters, you forged
Speaker 1: through the naysayers, you forged through the controversy. Come on,
Speaker 1: tell us about Joe expirits because you didn't give up
Speaker 1: you purse theory. Yeah, well, I don't quit things. If
Speaker 1: I started something, I mean, that's that's actually a blessing
Speaker 1: and a curse because I'm sort of obsessive about it.
Speaker 1: So if I say I'm gonna do something, then then
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it. You know. You know how when
Speaker 1: you can see the progress and something like if there's
Speaker 1: a field of leaves and somebody gave me a rake,
Speaker 1: I would get so much satisfaction out of raking and
Speaker 1: watching my progress happen. And that's how I that's how
Speaker 1: I approached us. Every single shot that I did, and
Speaker 1: sometimes it was multiple shots, I could see the progress happening. So,
Speaker 1: you know, somebody said to me, hey, did you did
Speaker 1: you ever think about quitting? I said no. They said
Speaker 1: you didn't have said it? Did not? They said, did
Speaker 1: you ever did you never woke up saying forget this,
Speaker 1: I'm over and I'm done. I said no. I said
Speaker 1: that all the time, but then I would have that
Speaker 1: moment and then go get back right back at it.
Speaker 1: Because one of my favorite addages is if you're quit,
Speaker 1: you are guaranteed to fail. Absolutely well, so absolutely And
Speaker 1: like I said Saturday night, they didn't know I had
Speaker 1: my grandmother's blood pumping through my veins. They didn't know that.
Speaker 1: People who thought we were gonna stop, I never saw.
Speaker 1: That's a controversial book, you know, you know, we just
Speaker 1: coming off the hills of controversial about Black Mermaids, the
Speaker 1: Disney cash. Now you just popped in here with the
Speaker 1: new book. Hollywood. They're gonna think there was all time
Speaker 1: to be having at the same time. You know, they're
Speaker 1: gonna think it was calculating. Yea. I actually worked on
Speaker 1: those shots with Ariel like three years ago. She was
Speaker 1: the sweetest girl on a back lot over at Disney
Speaker 1: and just shooting all of the test shots and she
Speaker 1: was singing. She was great, and it just so happened
Speaker 1: that all this stuff happened is coming at the same
Speaker 1: time at the same time. The rock that way because
Speaker 1: they say controversial sales. That's what I said, you some books.
Speaker 1: I'll ring the fuel with this biom. Yeah, it's from
Speaker 1: them in the dunker. Let get them. As long as
Speaker 1: we register that sale, I'm good. I don't care it right,
Speaker 1: just register this ye right. Well, hey, I know you're
Speaker 1: working on part two, imaginally iconic movie moments. Yeah, and ads.
Speaker 1: We want to do ads from the forties, fifties, sixties,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna do like a Ryan Murphy thing where
Speaker 1: a lot of people from Volume one has already agreed
Speaker 1: to come back to volume two and do something cool
Speaker 1: and different. So I'm like, well, now they're trusting arms
Speaker 1: strong around. I don't have to be strong around for
Speaker 1: a year like Shaka Khan did me, yeah that people
Speaker 1: don't want me to call people's names, and said, listen,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie on anybody. I'm gonna lye on you.
Speaker 1: If it's not appealing, what happened, that's not on me,
Speaker 1: it's the truth. It's you know, I love s group
Speaker 1: Shaka Khan with Chaka Kan. Yeah, ain't nobody come on?
Speaker 1: We all love that song. Yeah, yeah, you know if
Speaker 1: the whole thing is that, you gotta pay it for it.
Speaker 1: I mean you've already man, you don't gotta lag up.
Speaker 1: They're already there. So you up and coming. Why should
Speaker 1: we be controversy. We should be the first ones lining up?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you need this shot for that. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: think it's a beautiful idea. I'm there. I'm on board.
Speaker 1: Make it happen, Make it happen. And you made it
Speaker 1: happen despite and then you got the big, beautiful black
Speaker 1: Hollywood reimagining iconic movie moments released the date. We're blessed
Speaker 1: to have you here signing. We got signed copies personalized
Speaker 1: right here at League Books. That's right. We got some stock.
Speaker 1: If you want to personalized signed copy, you gotta come
Speaker 1: to League Books. We got them. You gotta go nowhere,
Speaker 1: come to you know it's your neighborhood. That's right, yes, right,
Speaker 1: It's very important for me to have the book here.
Speaker 1: And I walked in here a few months ago and
Speaker 1: I just I was, I fell in love with because
Speaker 1: this is what we need this you you are the
Speaker 1: manifestation this bookstore, of this book. You know it really
Speaker 1: truly honest list. Because why can't I walk into a
Speaker 1: bookstore and see mostly books about people that look like
Speaker 1: me and have the melanin And that's not against everybody else,
Speaker 1: which is what they want to turn into, not knock
Speaker 1: at all. That's only because people get uncomfortable and blackness
Speaker 1: and black art has to be explained, and I'm tired
Speaker 1: of explaining it. If you feel a certain way to
Speaker 1: call your therapist. That ain't. I don't have nothing to
Speaker 1: do with how you feel. What show else? And I
Speaker 1: ain't explaining it because that is security on. Yes, so
Speaker 1: people are crazy, So my thinking I never want to
Speaker 1: miss anything out. So like, if you had to describe
Speaker 1: your new book in one word, what would it be? Fantastical?
Speaker 1: Fantastic that's right, that's the word that I because I
Speaker 1: think that's what it is. And I used to be
Speaker 1: real self conscious about being um uh complimentary of myself
Speaker 1: because that's what society teach us. But the truth of
Speaker 1: the matter is it is not only because of the
Speaker 1: subject matter, but everything, the time it took to happen,
Speaker 1: the people that's involved, Like, that's what it is. I
Speaker 1: had a conversation with all this Hodge who's in here
Speaker 1: with his brother, and he was like, you know, because
Speaker 1: I was always concerned about seeing people I shot three,
Speaker 1: four or five years ago, and then like, dude, you
Speaker 1: wasting my time and wasting my time. And he goes
Speaker 1: through the beauty is you have this body of work
Speaker 1: shot over amount of time. He designs watches, and he goes,
Speaker 1: I have been designing a watch for twelve years myself,
Speaker 1: and it's not any easier because I'm in all these movies.
Speaker 1: It's actually harder because I have to go I can't
Speaker 1: focus on it. He likes the little, intricate, tiny pieces
Speaker 1: and he's an amazing watch design and people don't know that.
Speaker 1: So I thought about it, and he's younger than me
Speaker 1: and he's had all this wisdom about it, and I
Speaker 1: just thought about, Wow, that's that's pretty phenomenal. It is, Yes,
Speaker 1: it is now your artists, you are celebrity photographer. How
Speaker 1: would you describe yourself in one word? Fantastical? No kidding, No,
Speaker 1: you know, I seriously I won I would describe myself
Speaker 1: as um just focused, just focus and despite the distractions
Speaker 1: and despite the hurdles, you just gotta you know, shake
Speaker 1: it off and just stay focused. And so you're about
Speaker 1: to partake in your national book tour. Tell us all
Speaker 1: about that. What you got lined up? Yeah, tomorrow I'll
Speaker 1: be in uh d C. And then I go home
Speaker 1: to uh Columbia, South Carolina, and I get to I
Speaker 1: get to see people I went to high school with,
Speaker 1: people that made fun of me when I had a camera,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna talk about that. I get to see
Speaker 1: my old art teacher and people from the neighborhood and
Speaker 1: and just um old classmates. I'm actually looking forward to it.
Speaker 1: So you're telling me that this you knew you wanted
Speaker 1: to be a photographer. I had a camera in the
Speaker 1: seventh grade, in the seventh films. Wow, so this was
Speaker 1: your passion at very early eight. Yeah, pictures of Janet
Speaker 1: Jackson when I was young made me want to be
Speaker 1: a photographer because you know, it's Janet Janet, and she
Speaker 1: always looked really really good and certain lighting. I just
Speaker 1: wanted to learn and know how to do it and
Speaker 1: understand myself. Yeah. Yeah, you know, before the pandemic, I
Speaker 1: was taking the photography class. Let's come to set with me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to do that. Yeah, because you know,
Speaker 1: I take a thousand pictures. I'm a amateur, but it's
Speaker 1: always been my hearty. I took a class. I went
Speaker 1: to USC and I took a photography classes elective. Um
Speaker 1: at that time, you know, they showed us how to
Speaker 1: do the dark room and developed our pictures and um,
Speaker 1: you know, out of two hundred people, um, my picture
Speaker 1: finished third place. I don't know, I don't understand judging art,
Speaker 1: Like okay, something one, but what like it's it's like
Speaker 1: it's like that saying that says beauty is in the
Speaker 1: eye of the beholder. Always. I never really entered photo
Speaker 1: competitions because I'm like, my grandmother will like it, she'll
Speaker 1: choose minus number one, she'll choose the number two. But
Speaker 1: what are you have to know the person that's looking
Speaker 1: at it and what's appealing to them, because we all
Speaker 1: looked through photography books and we all know what we like.
Speaker 1: And if I'm judging something, chances are I'm gonna sort
Speaker 1: of gravitate towards that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know. I
Speaker 1: didn't even know. I took a picture that could be
Speaker 1: turned any direction and it was up right. That was
Speaker 1: the crazy part. I didn't even know it ended up
Speaker 1: like that because I took it shooting. He was laying
Speaker 1: on the track and I took him shooting down after
Speaker 1: the workout and he was all sitting, he was tired.
Speaker 1: I said, this is my picture right here, and I
Speaker 1: took it and I was standing on something. He was
Speaker 1: laying on the ground, and the and the and the
Speaker 1: instructive he said. He asked the class. He said, hey,
Speaker 1: tell me something unique about this picture. And I was like,
Speaker 1: and he was asking clold class. I didn't know. He
Speaker 1: said you and he said, look at this. You could
Speaker 1: turn it this way. It's up right. You can turn
Speaker 1: it this way. It's up right. You can turn it
Speaker 1: this way. It's all right. And that got me third place.
Speaker 1: Thank you, my brother, Thank you. Fell a friend, Tell
Speaker 1: a friend, teller, friend, tell a friend, Come get it
Speaker 1: that league books, let's get it black Hollywood, remage your
Speaker 1: iconeg movie movements. Correll Augustus, a phenomenal photographer. Thank you,
Speaker 1: my brother, thank you. I know you've been enjoying the
Speaker 1: Bobby Shop Toxic. Here come episode for enjoy. At what
Speaker 1: point do we take responsibility for our own actions? We
Speaker 1: don't take We need to look in the mirror. Man,
Speaker 1: Why would you say we don't? When is it when
Speaker 1: you're responsible? If you have a child to feed, you're
Speaker 1: responsible to clean yourself, feed yourself. Just you're grown man.
Speaker 1: Black friend ain't the same white, black, black and white.
Speaker 1: If I've done, you're done. It don't matter as much
Speaker 1: as if a white dude did well. If a white
Speaker 1: dude gun you down there, they create a movement. But
Speaker 1: if a black man gunn you down, there's no movement.
Speaker 1: Don't say nothing. They don't say nothing. That man down.
Speaker 1: We're about to go in the neighborhood and shoot up
Speaker 1: all the other black people. We're gonna go. We're gonna
Speaker 1: ride tonight. We're gonna make sure these niggas feel so
Speaker 1: the reality is that is we're gonna make sure these
Speaker 1: niggas feel ups. You hear the verbose that we use.
Speaker 1: We don't make sure these niggas feelers, right, we we
Speaker 1: we speak very vile to each other, and we do
Speaker 1: we degrade ourselves. So isn't isn't that our responsibility to
Speaker 1: change our reality? Is it really the white man's responsibility?
Speaker 1: You know? Is it ours? I believe it's so if
Speaker 1: we so we can complain about white supremac we can
Speaker 1: complain about all this and all that, but in reality,
Speaker 1: we were responsible to change our condition and reality. And
Speaker 1: goes back to self. We know better, but we don't
Speaker 1: do better. Absolutely, we got more information that we're the
Speaker 1: most educated black people today and yet wet, yet we
Speaker 1: got more knowledge than any black people on the planet.
Speaker 1: But yet people come over here and they do for self.
Speaker 1: They create a reality, they create their own community on neighborhoods.
Speaker 1: We got were most were the most educated black people
Speaker 1: on the planet. But yet we we don't leverage that
Speaker 1: member that one point five trion dollars to come through
Speaker 1: our hands. Working in America, we still are dependent and
Speaker 1: we're consumers with that money. We don't make taller paper,
Speaker 1: We don't make our clothes on our back, you know,
Speaker 1: we don't. We don't develop hospitals and schools and neighborhoods.
Speaker 1: But we got all this knowledge, we got all these degrees,
Speaker 1: we got being there's we got all that, So who's
Speaker 1: really responsible to change our condition? Because it seemed like
Speaker 1: we complain all day and all night about all the
Speaker 1: problems that go on in our community that we don't
Speaker 1: have respect from my woman. We got teenage pregnancy, we
Speaker 1: got fast food on every corner, we got all of
Speaker 1: these issues it's plaguing us in our neighborhoods. But yet
Speaker 1: nothing has changed. Black on black crime is still high,
Speaker 1: police brutality is still high. Nothing changes, and it don't
Speaker 1: seem like we gavinize our energy, our strength and our brotherhood.
Speaker 1: And I said, to make a real, real change, all right,
Speaker 1: we'll look look at it and look at what what
Speaker 1: what's the root of that though, the root of us
Speaker 1: not taking responsibly for ourselves? Because I believe this is
Speaker 1: my personal things. I believe because we have been made
Speaker 1: over certainty of the time to hate self, and we've
Speaker 1: been caught self hate so long that it is automatically
Speaker 1: and stuff in us to just hate, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So at what point, because because when you
Speaker 1: think about it, life for example, where that's why I
Speaker 1: use books to change the conversation about this some ration
Speaker 1: industry right videos, I'm throwing videos that that that dealing
Speaker 1: with black history, black culture, black religion, all of these things.
Speaker 1: This is what I'm teaching. This is what I'm showing people.
Speaker 1: It don't even move the soul, it, don't you know? I,
Speaker 1: like Jesus said, and the Bible said, I have been
Speaker 1: piping onto you all day long. You have not dads me,
Speaker 1: and I've been teaching you all this beautiful knowledge and
Speaker 1: don't even move your soul. But the moment a Caucasian
Speaker 1: or in the History channel say the same exact thing
Speaker 1: that I've been telling them, they come running in here
Speaker 1: like it's the gospel news, like it's the gospel truth.
Speaker 1: Who my God about? Did you hear it? Is? So
Speaker 1: the point is we have to get out of self hatred.
Speaker 1: We only want to accept things that come from other races,
Speaker 1: and we reject for come from our own self. We
Speaker 1: don't move towards our history unless some Caucasian or some
Speaker 1: big government organizations. That's my point. So we have to
Speaker 1: get back with educate each other. We have to educate
Speaker 1: each other. We don't educate each other because we're too.
Speaker 1: We don't. We don't want to accept the reality of
Speaker 1: what we live under, because to accept the truth means
Speaker 1: you have to now make a change. And according to
Speaker 1: the society we live in, they have made us comfortable
Speaker 1: being with the change of being ignorant. So it comes back,
Speaker 1: it comes back that we we know the problem. Like
Speaker 1: you said, you your root is self hatred. The self hatred,
Speaker 1: which is real. I mean that's why we, you know, exist. Well,
Speaker 1: I think there's a reason why we have games. Uh,
Speaker 1: this don't necessarily stem altogether because of self hatred, because
Speaker 1: some of us look for a brotherhood and sisterhood, some
Speaker 1: of us look for a family because our families have
Speaker 1: been just decimated, you know, the drugs and our communities
Speaker 1: have affected us. You know, see what happens. But what's that? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's just that's the self hatred, know, like, oh that's that.
Speaker 1: Ain't that? Ain't nothing but that. But we see what
Speaker 1: a Where you from, niggah, where you go, where you
Speaker 1: stay at? Well, I gotta tell you all that. I
Speaker 1: don't even know you, bro, but you but you got yours.
Speaker 1: What he lift, it's still in the fact we're stuffing
Speaker 1: from black inferiority and self hatred absolutely goes down. Now
Speaker 1: some black people are out here, that's just say, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't self from black inferior I don't see from
Speaker 1: self hatred. Alright, peace, brother, thank you, thank you. But
Speaker 1: the reality is enough of us do if this, If
Speaker 1: the shoot don't fit, then I'm not talking about you.
Speaker 1: You know, if you throw a bone at a packet dogs,
Speaker 1: the only one in holler is the one that got hit.
Speaker 1: So you might need to examine, you know, whether or
Speaker 1: not you one of them dogs that got hit. Because
Speaker 1: the reality is that we have to move together enough
Speaker 1: of us, that is, not all of us, enough of
Speaker 1: us have to move together in order to achieve a
Speaker 1: desired result. That's called the nurtia. So we don't have
Speaker 1: enough of us to change this reality, but we gotta
Speaker 1: find a way to do so. So this self hatred,
Speaker 1: this black inferiority, the question is what do we do
Speaker 1: amongst our own selves to try to change this. Stay
Speaker 1: tuned next week for Part five or bottom Shop Talks.
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