1 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: When is a clapback needed. So I don't know much 2 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: about the Ashley Tisdale mom mama, which is mom drama. 3 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 1: Save the drama for your mama. I have a daughter, 4 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 1: and the idea of a mom group sounds terrifying. Like 5 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 1: there have been different moms that along the way I've 6 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: met and been friendly with, but it sort of feels 7 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 1: like it's very transactional, like you're hanging out with them 8 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 1: because your kid is their age, and so like you're 9 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:49,919 Speaker 1: seeing them at the park and you're talking to them 10 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: and you're asking about the costumes or the snacks or whatever. 11 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: But like, and yes, I'm sure you could meet good 12 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: friends from that, but it's almost like being on a 13 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 1: reality show with them, Like you have one goal in 14 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: mind and you're around each other and the same cadence 15 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: during the same I don't know migratory patterns, and that's 16 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: why you're friends. And I think it was Mandy Moore 17 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: that like came in saying that things have changed because 18 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: people are at different stages in their life, which makes 19 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: perfect sense. I had a horrific, horrendous divorce and there 20 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 1: were some moms that I would even tell about it, 21 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 1: and because I would be with my daughter, and there 22 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: would be a lot of things that were unusual. There 23 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: would be like no interacting with another parent, or me 24 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: getting boxed out of any of the parent field trips 25 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: for different reasons, or just like there was a lot 26 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: of stuff that like you were telling the body nearest 27 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 1: to you. You know. These weren't my best friends. I 28 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: remember Amy, she was great. I would go over to 29 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: her house and that we do plate its, and she 30 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: liked to drink a margarita and like that's all you 31 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: really needed. I invited her to some of my parties, 32 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: I think a skinny girl party. She had fun, she 33 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: was cool and I liked her. I enjoyed her. There 34 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: was another woman we weren't totally aligned, but like she 35 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: was warm body and so was I. We go take 36 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: the kids to go to get pasta after I remember 37 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: Britt never would want to eat and didn't like to 38 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: go out to dinner. I was jealous that her daughter 39 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: loved to go out to dinner because I wanted a 40 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: child that wanted to, like, at least sit in a 41 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: restaurant with me. You're not gonna be best friends with 42 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 1: a lot of these people, and so I guess they 43 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: have a mom group. I don't know why someone has 44 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: start a mom group. Is it like a real group, 45 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: Like did you start it like a book club? Or 46 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 1: is it like just a group that you're friends with. 47 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: Because from third grade to ninety five, there are gonna 48 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 1: be clicks, They're gonna be bitches, there are gonna be 49 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: one in, one out, there's gonna be gossip. Many people 50 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: don't have purpose. Many people don't have security, don't have jobs, 51 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: don't have money, don't have what other people have, don't 52 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: have sex. Like I just know that in general, like 53 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 1: the mom drama is probably gonna always be there. I mean, 54 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: I've heard a thousand stories. I never participated in it. 55 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: I was always like a little bit of a ninja 56 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 1: that dipped in and dipped out. Like I'll talk, I'll transact, 57 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: but like, I'm not trying to get too close with anybody. 58 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to go to the school and make 59 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: friends with all the moms. And guess what, my daughter 60 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: doesn't want me to, she really doesn't. She wants me 61 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 1: to text so and So's mom to see if she 62 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: can go over there, see if she can do this, 63 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 1: see if they can come. It's transactional for a safe 64 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 1: information For me, talking to other moms is for safety information. 65 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: It's for like if you have a little kid, like 66 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:22,239 Speaker 1: when are these kids getting phones? It's for are the 67 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 1: kids drinking at parties? Who's driving? Are you allowing that 68 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: in your house? You know? Are you really going to 69 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: be there when the kids leep over? That's the function 70 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: for me. I'm not saying it's for everyone. And I'm 71 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: going to get into that in a minute, because a 72 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: lot of people are looking for friends, which is something 73 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: that I've been surprised by. But for me, I don't 74 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: just being a mom is not enough of a reason 75 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: to be friends with someone, Like I got have a 76 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: friend who is you know, gay man, traffic cop. Like 77 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: I'm friends with people that I'm friends with. That doesn't 78 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: mean everyone has to do that, but like just being 79 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 1: a mom is not reason enough to like forge a friendship, 80 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: and most people aren't to be trusted and all this 81 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: girl's girl bullshit, like you don't support women, like I'm 82 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: not a total girls girl. Claudia Ashrey from the Toast 83 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: set it. I've said it before. I've said, like I'm 84 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: a my girl's girl. I don't need to be friends 85 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 1: with thirty seven women like, I'm not interested in that. 86 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: I have the same friends since high school that I 87 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 1: could tell there's a body and a dumpster outside and 88 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: I wouldn't even have to say it. Don't say anything. 89 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: There's not one iota of bad talking between us that 90 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: has ever once happened. We're not all three friends with 91 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 1: each other. They're friendly with each other when they see 92 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 1: each other. I'm friends with both of them, best friends. 93 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 1: But like, there's no drama whatsoever. The biggest drama is 94 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 1: from one of my friends who will be late and 95 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: like ask for the plan and then stalk me about 96 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: the plan and then be late and then I'll be 97 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 1: like rip her or something like that. But there's no 98 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: like big drama. There should not be any mama drama. 99 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 1: And I don't know. So this girl, Ashley talked about it. 100 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: I guess it didn't hit. I guess she probably thought 101 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 1: it was going to be like a vulnerable moment. I 102 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 1: didn't even listen to it. I'm not interested in it enough, 103 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: but I didn't listen to it. So you can correct me, 104 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 1: and you always do. But she apparently went public with 105 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: it and it backfired, and then I just saw something 106 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 1: like I said, Manny Moore saying that she like is 107 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: friends with different people. Okay, that's cool. So what who 108 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: caires like kind of someone who cares? You're grown ass 109 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: women and your best friends are going to be a 110 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: ride or dies forever. And it's a mom group. And 111 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 1: yes it can feel bad at school, but like you 112 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: gotta fly above, you gotta separate. And also, as I 113 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: say to my daughter, don't become best friends with everybody. Okay, 114 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:41,799 Speaker 1: have good friends, forge good friendships. Many of these people 115 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 1: you will not know when you're my age. Okay, most 116 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: most of these people you won't know in college. Many 117 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 1: of these people you won't be friends with next year. 118 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: Find good friendships, people that you can trust. She has 119 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: some that I know that she's known for years, some 120 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 1: that I love, others that are fleeting. That's okay. Don't 121 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: tell everybody all your secrets. Don't be come best friends 122 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: and everybody don't. That's just it's not sustainable, it's not realistic. 123 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: And don't like trust everybody. There's no reason to trust everybody. 124 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: And everybody wants to gossip and talk about their money, 125 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: their sex, their husband, their friend group, other people. It 126 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: is a currency. You are literally providing a currency that 127 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 1: they will then go spend elsewhere. So I'm in the 128 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: witness protection program. I don't connect a lot of dots. 129 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 1: I don't tell people things I don't want everyone to know. 130 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: Like if I tell one of my sub friends like 131 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:33,919 Speaker 1: that I'm friendly with or at a cocktail party, I 132 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 1: would tell all of you. There are things that I 133 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: would tell my best best best friends that I wouldn't 134 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 1: tell you. Not that many believe it or not, because 135 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 1: I'm a pretty open book, which is frightening, but there 136 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 1: are things that's it. You don't need to be trusting 137 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 1: that many people. And I like a lot of people, 138 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 1: and I don't care. And like I said, I'll open 139 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: my fucking mouth because I don't care. But I'm not 140 00:06:53,040 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: here telling everybody everything. There's just no reason people are unhappy. 141 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: People are jealous. It's contagious. If someone's a little bit 142 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: envious of you or a little bit jealous of you, 143 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: like they can't help themselves. They might be unhappy. It's 144 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: not their fault. They might be in a bad marriage. 145 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: They might, you know, feel bad about their body or 146 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: the kind of parent they are, or their skin, or 147 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: just have something going on inside about depression. Whatever. People 148 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: are unhappy. People are happy also, But people are unhappy 149 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: and it's not their fault. They might want to like 150 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: steal your light. So if you have a mom group 151 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: because of you know, because your kids in the school play, 152 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: or because you go to your volleyball mom, or because 153 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: of all these things, great, great. Interact with them, have 154 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: fun with them, plan the snacks to them, laugh with them, 155 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: make jokes, be loyal with them, go cheer for the kids. Amazing. 156 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: You just don't need to be fucking ride or die 157 00:07:56,080 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: like blood sisters. Like It's okay, don't get in too 158 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: deep because then getting out there's shrapnel. That's the thing. 159 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: If you get in like a little just the tip, 160 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: it's fine. You go all the way in, there's gonna 161 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: be fucking shrapnel if you gotta get out. That's the thing. 162 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: I don't like. Because you trusted someone, you're freaking out. 163 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: They know you see kids, Why did you do? Don't 164 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: get yourself into any of that shit. Okay, I listen 165 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: to me. And the reason I brought this up is 166 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: because someone said that Hillary Duff's husband did like a 167 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: mockery of an Ashley Tisdale post, which is crazy, by 168 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: the way, and some person on TikTok was saying that 169 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: they loved it because it was like a little like 170 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,959 Speaker 1: shady and teaish, et cetera. When is a man getting 171 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: involved in any female drama? Like when that's strange unless 172 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: I'm missing something. But okay, Ryan Reynolds got involved in 173 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 1: Blake Lively drama's being loyal to his wife. Okay, it's okay, 174 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 1: But like when is that happening? But the question remains, 175 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: when is a clapback necessary? Like something happened recently. I 176 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 1: did a whole pot on it. I don't think we're 177 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: gonna air it because it's just probably not necessary. Someone 178 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: came and took a swipe, a big swipe at me, 179 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: and you know what it was, and it's like, I 180 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: have an insane take it to the sticks, put somebody 181 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: in the ground clap back. Does it need to be said? 182 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: Does it need to be said? It's really for entertainment, 183 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: And that's why once in a while you want to 184 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: do it. Once in a while you want to do 185 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 1: it just to be like, listen, everybody else fuck around 186 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 1: and find out I'm gonna take a shot at this beat. 187 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,559 Speaker 1: You better not miss. But you know, taking the high 188 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: road can be boring to Hillary Duff's husband's point, like, 189 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 1: although he's not really in it, but I'm just saying, 190 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 1: once in a while, Chris Moth, Chris Moth just decided 191 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: to fire a random shot in the middle of some 192 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: Instagram comments, and now he's surprised why GMC's you know, 193 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: asking him about it in a parking lot. I think 194 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 1: it was about SGP. I didn't even know he had 195 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 1: a thing with SJP like an issue. I really didn't. 196 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: I didn't know that I knew about the other one, Samantha. 197 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,959 Speaker 1: But evidently he took a swipe and like he fired 198 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 1: a random shot, he fucking felt like it. Mark Cuban 199 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: told me once in a while he'll go into Twitter 200 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 1: x and just like fuck with somebody who fucks with him. 201 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:56,559 Speaker 1: You know, once Dave Prno has made a career out 202 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 1: of it. Once in a while, you just want to 203 00:09:57,720 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: be like, you fucked around, you found out, but you 204 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 1: clap back and it could boomerang again, so you don't 205 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 1: need to. And by the way, that's being a public person. 206 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: As a private person, there's really no upside to clapping back. 207 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 1: And when you're thinking of clapping back, when you're thinking 208 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 1: of getting the last word. When you're thinking of responding, defending, saying, emailing, texting, 209 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 1: please think what is my up side? Because there is 210 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 1: definitely a downside. What is the upside for me? Opening 211 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: my big mouth has had some upside because a lot 212 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: of people respect me. But still I always believe the 213 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: wolves are at the end of the bed, and I 214 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: don't play with fire, play stupid games, win stuper prizes. 215 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: So I saw a picture of Luanne in the water 216 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: with a man who looked like this handsome mystery man, 217 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: and my first reaction was like, you go girl. I 218 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: was happy for her, And that just shows like the 219 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 1: Housewives life of when you just would sort of snarkily 220 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: say something I don't know anything about it. I don't 221 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: know think about her relationship. It doesn't even matter. I 222 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 1: know that there was a woman making out with a man, like, 223 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: as they said, an officer and a gentleman. Go Paula. 224 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: A woman in a sunny beach vacation making out the man. 225 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: She's sixty years old. That's relevant, but maybe it's not 226 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: slightly relevant. He looked like a nice looking man. He's 227 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: a real estate broker in the Hamptons. I read and 228 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: like good for her. Good for fucking her. You go girl, 229 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: Ali Larder, Stay the fuck off Ali Larder and criticizing 230 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: the role. First of all, she didn't write the show 231 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 1: of Landman. Second of all, Texas is Texas. Texas is 232 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: not New York. Texas is not La Texas is not 233 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: democratic inclusivity. It's not me too, it's not Black lives matter. 234 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: That should be included in the show. Gay should be 235 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 1: included in the show if they want to, if that, 236 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 1: but not, if it's not portraying what this business is. 237 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: Maybe people want to fight that the oil business should 238 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 1: be more inclusive and women should be more powerful and 239 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: more powerful roles. I was in the liquor business. There 240 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 1: were no women in it. Okay, there were no women 241 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 1: in it. It was the good old boys club, That's what 242 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 1: it was. I was selling alcohol. I was trying to 243 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,959 Speaker 1: change the whole business, Okay. Ali Larder is a character, 244 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: a beautiful scripted character that is portraying a Texas oil wife, 245 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: a Texas oil wife. What is less plausible to me 246 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: is I don't know necessarily if I see them together 247 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 1: as a couple, because I would think that, and I 248 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: know Billy Bob's cool, and I guess he looks good 249 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 1: in like real life, and I think I heard he's 250 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: dating to me more and less, that's fake news, and 251 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:31,319 Speaker 1: that's also unique. That's like an unusual couple to me, 252 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 1: almost like an Elizabeth Hurley and whatever country guy she's with. 253 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 1: But listen, we get older and like the pickens get different, 254 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:42,439 Speaker 1: the choices are different, and listen, it's just I did 255 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 1: not would not have seen Ali Larder with Billy Bob Thornton, 256 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: so I would question that, But I would not question 257 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: a woman wanting to have Margarita's get diamonds, go on 258 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: shopping trips and spend her husband's money in fucking Texas. 259 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 1: Have you been to Texas? Have you been to Dallas? 260 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: Have you been to the oil community? Like, this is 261 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: not the arts community. Okay, this is not like a 262 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: philanthropic relief effort. It's a Texas blonde. Yeah. There are 263 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: many things in the script that are not realistic. I mean, 264 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: the mom and the daughter are inseparable and never a part. 265 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 1: The daughter doesn't have any friends who fucking cares. Ali 266 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 1: Laurda is amazing. She didn't write the thing and it's 267 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: wildly entertaining. Give her her flowers. She's not used to 268 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: dealing with haters, so she's probably reading the comments and 269 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: I tell her, do not read the comments. They're losers. 270 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 1: They don't know anything. You're crushing it, and I'm so 271 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: happy she's in that role. And everyone criticizing the role 272 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: and where it sets women back. It's like saying in 273 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: the Deep South, like being a debutante is setting them back. Okay, 274 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: we're not going to portray that in a movie. It 275 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: doesn't happen because it shouldn't happen. That's what happened with 276 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 1: the Housewives. They wanted to make the group of women 277 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 1: on Real Housewives of New York the group of women 278 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 1: that would be ideal, like the most inclusive, eclectic, interesting, 279 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 1: accomplished in tell diligent, philanthropic, creative, sexual, interesting, famous group 280 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: of women. Okay, that's not realistic. What's realistic is Ramona 281 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: was going to make a politically incorrect comment. Be a 282 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:15,959 Speaker 1: Republican and someone might smoke a fucking cigarette, because that's 283 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: real life. You may not like it if Dereid's having 284 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: a cigarette during a divorce, but that's what she did, 285 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: so that's what she'd be portrayed. You may not like 286 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: it if Ramona and Ebanie didn't get along, but they 287 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 1: would never be friends in real life, they shouldn't have 288 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: been on the show to begin with. So Ali Larder 289 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: can start, you know, wearing daisy chains with friends in 290 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: Hollywood and be friends with Leah Dunham and fight and 291 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: become an activist on the streets of Texas. Her character 292 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 1: that is, I don't see that happening anytime soon, because 293 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: that's not what's really happening in the oil business in 294 00:14:47,680 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: Texas anymore than it's what's happening on Yellowstone in Montana. 295 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: Did you see that show? Members only Palm Beach. It's 296 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: provoking people, and that's what entertains me. What entertains me 297 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: is the superficial people that live in Bomb Beach that 298 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: really want to make the distinction between Palm Beach on 299 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: Island and West Palm, which they are now calling Palm 300 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: West like they're trying to be degrading. The women do 301 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: seem extremely new money on this show, but they're so 302 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 1: unapologetic about wanting it that it's I don't want to 303 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: say admirable, almost admirable because all the women that are 304 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: on Palm Beach Island that do have it. Their entire 305 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: currency in conversation and their mental hierarchy is how rich 306 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: they are. They are always counting the status of them 307 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: versus anyone else and old money and new money, which 308 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: did happen on the guilded Age and it didn't work 309 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 1: out so well for the people that were hanging on 310 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: to the old guard, like the Titanic. So West ponm 311 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: Beach is a place that is being very built up, 312 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: and a lot of people on pom Beach Island go 313 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: to West Pond Beach for different cool restaurants and it's 314 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: not a prison. You can get onto ponm Beach Island. 315 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: You can just drive there and go to dinner. So 316 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: people are so like up in arms, and it makes 317 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: me laugh because you'd have to say they might be 318 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 1: a little bit more insufferable than the people that are 319 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: just social climbing trying to get on that island. It's 320 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: all horrible. I don't know why someone would want to 321 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: be on that island and like just their whole life 322 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: is just to be accepted by a social group. What 323 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: must that be like? I can't even imagine. I don't 324 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: know that my daughter's ever had that phase that badly, 325 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 1: Like that's something that happens in third grade. To want 326 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: to be accepted by a friend group, but to be 327 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: this desperate to be like a mummy that's willing to 328 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: just mold yourself like a piece of clay into what 329 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: other people want you to be is very sad. But 330 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: the people to want to protect their turf and like 331 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:56,239 Speaker 1: prove that they're the real they're the real rich assholes 332 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 1: versus the wannabe assholes. Is just the same way that 333 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: they were about the Housewives of New York. They really 334 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:04,439 Speaker 1: wanted to prove that, like, we weren't real socialites because 335 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: the gen pop of America thought we were. Because they 336 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:10,360 Speaker 1: are trying to make ends meet and they have multiple 337 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:14,880 Speaker 1: jobs and they don't know the difference between what Jill 338 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: Zaren has or you know, a multi billionaire. It all 339 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: looks pretty rich to them. And so Jill Zaren saying 340 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 1: she runs with a fabulous circle of people and us 341 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 1: being thought of his socialites loll. Because I was in 342 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:31,199 Speaker 1: an Ikea studio apartment is just funny. But that I 343 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:33,640 Speaker 1: know because I remember meeting some of the real socialites 344 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 1: in New York and they wanted the gossip and they 345 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: really were bothered by these people that are not socialites 346 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 1: being called socialites, which also reminds me to explain to you, 347 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 1: there used to be a socialite circle in New York. 348 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: It doesn't exist anymore. And it used to be because 349 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 1: W Magazine and Town and Country used to just be 350 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: littered with pages of just every night events in New 351 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 1: York that people were invited to. And if your picture 352 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 1: with your name and other people was in those magazines, 353 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: then you were You made it like you were real. 354 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 1: Now it doesn't exist because you can be a socialite. 355 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:07,919 Speaker 1: I mean, you could be an influencer, you could be 356 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: an actress. It's not like that. But there were these 357 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: like Tinsley was a socialite, a major one. There were 358 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 1: this group of women that like, they didn't really make 359 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 1: any money. She had done a couple of deals Tinsley on, 360 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 1: like a do or lip or something, or some bags, 361 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 1: but they didn't really make any money. They had some money, 362 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 1: or their families had a name that seemed like it 363 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: had some money, or because their families had a name, 364 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: they got to marry somebody that had money to get 365 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 1: them to carry on the name, which I'm thinking of 366 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 1: someone right now who she had the name, but he 367 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 1: had all the money, so they merged. She had the access, 368 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: he had the money. That's a good combination. But their 369 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 1: all entire lives were just invitations, hair makeup and like 370 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:47,400 Speaker 1: big taffet addresses, then looking for the picture the next day, 371 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 1: and then the gossip, all under the guise of charity. 372 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 1: And it was charity, but like, if you worked that 373 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 1: hard to help people, you'd be giving them a lot 374 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 1: more money than like just going to parties and donating 375 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 1: or being in a chair person on a charity Like 376 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,199 Speaker 1: all I know because I deeply, deeply know what it 377 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: means to raise money and give it directly to a community. 378 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 1: And I find the interruption and the bullshit of like 379 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 1: a rubber chicken dinner with a strapless gown and fucking 380 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 1: chivari chairs and the meals and all that entertainment, all 381 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 1: that shit I find to be like for play in 382 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,199 Speaker 1: a middleman. A woman just invited me to, Like I 383 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 1: get invited to this, and I got invited to that 384 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:27,400 Speaker 1: gala and this gala, and it's just not me. It's 385 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:29,679 Speaker 1: super cringe for me to be in a room like 386 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 1: that pretending I'm like doing something good for the world 387 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: when you're just going there to like see or be 388 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: seen or get dressed up. It just makes it's you're 389 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:59,439 Speaker 1: not doing charity.