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Speaker 2: the Action Network Podcast. Everybody your Week fourteen NFL recap.

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Speaker 2: It is great to have you with us. Sunday Night

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Speaker 2: football has just wrapped up past midnight on the East Coast.

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Speaker 2: We had six teams on the by so eleven games

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Speaker 2: on this Sunday. Brendan Glasheen and Brandon Anderson to deliver

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Speaker 2: the pod tonight. We are presented by Fan Duel. We

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Speaker 2: will discuss Monday night football later in the show Patriots

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Speaker 2: at Cardinals in Glendale, Arizona. And we will also get

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Speaker 2: to the hot reed, which is a look ahead to

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Speaker 2: next week Week fifteen, trying to get a sense of

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Speaker 2: where some lines might be at. There are Saturday games

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Speaker 2: next week, so that's fun. But we have a lot

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Speaker 2: to dive into from today and tonight. Brandon, just you

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Speaker 2: and me Jill's out. Jill's out this week not feeling

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Speaker 2: too well. We wish Jill well.

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Speaker 3: This was the end of bye weeks, so this was

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Speaker 3: Jill's last chance to take a bye week as well.

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Speaker 3: We had six teams off, went out at a seventh.

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Speaker 2: That's a great way of putting it perfect. But I'll

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Speaker 2: be out next week just to get that out of

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Speaker 2: the way. So I'll be in Vegas for Patriots Raiders anyway.

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Speaker 2: Chargers Dolphins Tua v. Justin Herbert the two guys that

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Speaker 2: were talked about at the draft. Brian Flores wanted him,

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Speaker 2: but it turns out the owner of the GM wanted

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Speaker 2: the other guy. Two is looking in the mirror with

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Speaker 2: Mike McDaniel. Do I suck and I don't know tonight?

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Speaker 2: Is this a night where two of might go back

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Speaker 2: maybe I was onto something? Ten and twenty eight In

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Speaker 2: this game, the Chargers win twenty three seventeen late field

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Speaker 2: goal on sidekick. It got dicey there at the end,

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Speaker 2: but the Chargers were pretty much in control of this

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Speaker 2: game start to finish. Austin Eckler was phenomenal. Herbert made

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Speaker 2: some beautiful throws Chargers cover and went outright.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean the Chargers tried to charger this thing out.

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Speaker 3: At the end of the game, the on side kick,

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Speaker 3: the guy like reached out and batted the ball away

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Speaker 3: from him, and somehow the Chargers still recover. Before that

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Speaker 3: or something. I mean, the Chargers absolutely dominated this game.

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Speaker 3: They're in the red zone of six times. This is

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Speaker 3: not a six point game. This for anyone other than

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Speaker 3: the Chargers. This is like a comfortable twenty one point win.

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Speaker 1: What is the Chargers?

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Speaker 3: We got to keep things interesting, man, Miami just an

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Speaker 3: awful showing from this offense. The Dolphins didn't reach the

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Speaker 3: red zone, they didn't take a single snap in Chargers

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Speaker 1: So they finished.

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Speaker 3: You mentioned the yardage here, two hundred and nineteen yards

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Speaker 3: then of course who's a fall to but tyreek kill

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Speaker 3: Other than that those two fluke plays ninety six yards

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Speaker 3: You take away the middle of the field, you jam

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Speaker 1: He just he does not look comfortable.

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Speaker 1: So what do you think? Is this Tua? Is this McDaniel?

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Speaker 1: How bad was this? Oh bit?

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Speaker 2: It's kind of a I would imagine. Now. They lost

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Speaker 2: Jeff Wilson in this game. He didn't return. Tyreek Hill

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Speaker 2: on the Sunday Night Football NBC broadcast. They could never

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Speaker 2: to just beat bad teams Pittsburgh at home, at Lions,

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Speaker 2: Also that that could just be it too. And they've

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Speaker 2: they've played two teams chargers. Granted they Charger often, they

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Speaker 2: haven't been too consistent defensively, but that team's got pieces

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Speaker 3: They do have pieces, but honestly, the pieces were mostly

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Speaker 3: Jac Jackson has out that defense had no business being

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Speaker 3: like I thought, Miami hang a big number here. The

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Speaker 1: Huge explosive passing plays. That's like what.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know. The Dolphins now fall to eight

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Speaker 2: There, and they're two and five just to the quick math,

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Speaker 2: they are two and five against playoff teams. Yeah, and

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Speaker 2: they've lost five in a row to playoff teams Bengals, Jets, Vikings, Niners, Chargers.

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Speaker 2: They had two wins early in the year at Baltimore

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Speaker 3: do I think it's a little of column A, Colum

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Speaker 3: do think the two numbers, the Tyreek numbers, were inflated

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Speaker 3: Tyreek Ruffin's Play the Year because they had this great

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Speaker 3: he's hearing footsteps right now. This is not just ooh

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Speaker 3: tough for defense. Now, this is not that. It's partly that,

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Speaker 3: but it's more. And here's the problem. Eight and five,

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Speaker 3: they're the sixth seed, Chargers move into the seventh seed

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Speaker 3: for now. Miami's last four games they go at Buffalo

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Speaker 3: Saturday night. You mentioned the Saturday games and Green Bay

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Speaker 3: So you have three possible playoff teams. You have the

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Speaker 1: To win two of those to get in two of those.

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Speaker 1: That wasn't really anyway.

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Speaker 3: I don't I don't know if the Dolphins are safe.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a great question and it's worth asking.

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Speaker 2: You don't think Buffalo is motivated to get those guys

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Speaker 2: Kansas City almost gave their game away. We'll get to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm worried. I definitely I don't.

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Speaker 3: We don't see numbers yet up for playoff odds, but

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Speaker 3: Miami to miss the playoffs is definitely a number that

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Speaker 3: I need to see this week because I think that

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Speaker 3: did they did they have the blueprint? Is this just

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Speaker 3: But the Chargers did replicate some of that, and we

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Speaker 3: tego Iilo suddenly turn into Pat Mahomes this year. No

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Speaker 3: one thought that. The numbers said it. But the numbers

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Speaker 2: What about the Chargers did you learn.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if I learned anything about the Chargers.

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Speaker 3: To me, this was a Miami outcome tonight. We know

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Speaker 3: So I learned what I already thought about the Chargers,

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Speaker 3: I don't want to have to predict what's happening with them.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to Jets and Bills. So speaking of teams

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Speaker 2: in the AFC East, I see it with the Jets

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Speaker 2: brand and I do. I see what they're growing there.

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Speaker 2: As far as their defense, Garrett Wilson is connecting with

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Speaker 3: So that was my takeaway. Mitch Trubisky played most of

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Speaker 2: What's the concern for Seattle Island?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I think the island has been vacated. The Seattle gave

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Speaker 3: they got out physicled by a Panthers team that said,

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Speaker 1: And they were right.

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Speaker 3: And this has not been new. We saw Josh Jacobs

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Speaker 1: Do it all. But I don't know. I we're in

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Speaker 2: So at Kansas City, at Kansas City.

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Speaker 3: So look Thursday night, I'll tell you this right now.

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Speaker 3: I vacated it already myself a couple of weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: This is it.

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Speaker 3: You're giving more than a fuel goal to the last

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Speaker 3: now or never.

436
00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,119
Speaker 2: You're gonna do it. I can feel it.

437
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,840
Speaker 1: I can tell you yeah.

438
00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,680
Speaker 3: But by the way, what about Carolina Island. They're only

439
00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:03,000
Speaker 3: a game back on Botch Now they play to close

440
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:07,560
Speaker 3: the season Pittsburgh, Detroit, Tampa and New Orleans. They control

441
00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,639
Speaker 3: their destiny. They're three and one in the division. I

442
00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 3: don't believe in this Panthers team at all. Their wins

443
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:17,040
Speaker 3: are against three division foes and a terrible division, and

444
00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:20,440
Speaker 3: Denver who's not good, and Seattle, who is getting.

445
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:21,439
Speaker 1: Exposed a little bad. That's it.

446
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:23,679
Speaker 3: That's the five wins. But guess what, you don't have

447
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:25,320
Speaker 3: to be good in that division. You just got to

448
00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:26,720
Speaker 3: be not the worst one.

449
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:28,360
Speaker 1: So I don't know, we'll see.

450
00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,000
Speaker 2: Let's get to the frozen pizzas, We'll zip right through these.

451
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,359
Speaker 2: It's not delivery and it's not exactly pizza.

452
00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,960
Speaker 1: Either it's almost pizza, it's very nearly pizza, but not

453
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,320
Speaker 1: quite pizza. That's practically pizza in every way except for

454
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Speaker 1: a few key ones.

455
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,240
Speaker 2: Come on, dig in most of these games are going

456
00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,639
Speaker 2: to talk about now coming up one side, you're like

457
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,640
Speaker 2: really encouraged, but the other side they were just so

458
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,000
Speaker 2: they were just so bad that you're like, this is

459
00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,960
Speaker 2: just not If you're a fan of that team or

460
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,639
Speaker 2: if you bet that side, you're like, this is great,

461
00:22:56,760 --> 00:23:00,480
Speaker 2: this and that, But basically you were making positive about

462
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,000
Speaker 2: the team that did well, and then the other team

463
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 2: you're like, wow, they're terrible, Like what's up with them? Like,

464
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,639
Speaker 2: what's up with this with the coach, the quoter, whatever

465
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,360
Speaker 2: it may be. They're banged up this and that. Tampa,

466
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,959
Speaker 2: San Francisco you've heard by now Tom Brady just an

467
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,119
Speaker 2: underdog against the rookie quarterback for the second time in

468
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 2: his career, Vince Young in two thousand and six. He's

469
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:23,400
Speaker 2: an underdog to brock Purty and his return to Sam Fran,

470
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,879
Speaker 2: his return home that's where he's from. And they lose

471
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 2: thirty five to seven. Thirty five to seven, So the

472
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,480
Speaker 2: Niners cover three and a half and they look just fine.

473
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 2: Party inserted for Jimmy g And it's the same well

474
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,640
Speaker 2: oiled machine and their defense is damn good. There are

475
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 2: some concerns Deebo Samuel got hurt in this game.

476
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's basically you kind of just wish

477
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,920
Speaker 3: they had one of those like simulate two end buttons

478
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,920
Speaker 3: on this game once he got up like that. Honestly,

479
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 3: the whole the late afternoon, the whole late afternoon felt

480
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,240
Speaker 3: like a simulate to end is like I was putting

481
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Speaker 3: the Carolina. Yes that's true, that's true, But as a

482
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:06,640
Speaker 3: Seattle Island fanboy, that was one where for my own sake,

483
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,400
Speaker 3: I want to simulate to the end and just get

484
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 3: off the island and then stop treading water. So yeah,

485
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 3: the takeaway for me on this game is this was

486
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 3: more about the box than it was the Niners.

487
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 1: I think we're going to read.

488
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 3: A little too much into like, ah see the Niners,

489
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 3: they're great. Rock Purty, Jimmy Garoppolo, who cares, doesn't matter. Look,

490
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,439
Speaker 3: Purdy made one big mistake in this game. He threw

491
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Speaker 3: a new reception.

492
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:29,479
Speaker 1: He was ticked.

493
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 3: He's stomping off toward the sideline, got called off by

494
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:33,919
Speaker 3: penalty they.

495
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:35,120
Speaker 1: Went right back to him.

496
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Speaker 3: The next play they do it, stop and go for

497
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,639
Speaker 3: Brandon Ayu came him for a thirty two hour touchdown.

498
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 3: I love that and you saw the confidence there Purty,

499
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:47,639
Speaker 3: no sacks, no interceptions, five and a half yard depth

500
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Speaker 3: of target.

501
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Speaker 1: That's the route.

502
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 3: That's what you want to do with your seventh round

503
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 3: quarterback is just be the game manager. Let the defense

504
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,360
Speaker 3: do the defense, and let our playmakers do their thing.

505
00:24:59,040 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 1: That's the route.

506
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 3: But that route is a lot easier when you're playing

507
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 3: an offense that can't do anything in Tampa Bay and

508
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 3: hasn't done anything for a while now, and a Bucks

509
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 3: defense that is missing guys and wasn't up to the

510
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:14,160
Speaker 3: task here. So to me, this is about Tampa who's

511
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 3: just not good and hasn't really been at any point

512
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:17,119
Speaker 3: this season.

513
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Speaker 1: I don't know.

514
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,879
Speaker 3: I'm not raining on the Niners parade. I'm just not

515
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,160
Speaker 3: ready to crown them after this game either.

516
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 2: Currently plus nine hundred, the fourth favorite to win the

517
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 2: Super Bowl the San Francisco forty nine ers with Brock

518
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 2: Purdy as their quarterback, Philadelphia New York Giants. A lot

519
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 2: of folks at Action were on the Giants to hang

520
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 2: around and this one was also never that close. Eagles

521
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 2: forty eight, Giants twenty two. Eagles cover the spread. I

522
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 2: know you bet in some fashion you bet the Eagles

523
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 2: to make the Super Bowl would represent the conference on

524
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,920
Speaker 2: Green Dot daily. I'm starting to think they're pretty legit.

525
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 2: Like that's two really good performances back to back weeks

526
00:25:56,160 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 2: against the Titans. You cover the spread there, you're a

527
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:02,639
Speaker 2: think it was what was four and a half? Right?

528
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:06,400
Speaker 2: So they got there handedly in this game seven Giants.

529
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,199
Speaker 2: Well maybe maybe your concern is it the same as

530
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:10,679
Speaker 2: the other game, the game we just talked about it?

531
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 2: You're looking at more now, Okay, I know about Philadelphia.

532
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 2: Giants are done, Giants make the playoffs.

533
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 1: How do we feel I think a little bit of

534
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 1: both here.

535
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:21,359
Speaker 3: You know, look, the Giants and the Titans back to

536
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 3: back comprehensive wins. Offense, defense dominant, start to finish wins

537
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 3: against playoff teams like fraudulent playoff teams. Sure we all

538
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,640
Speaker 3: think so. But if that's the case, then that's because

539
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 3: there's only like six good teams. You got to still

540
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,120
Speaker 3: beat all the other teams. And there's a difference here

541
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 3: between Like we talked about some of the other games

542
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 3: where the team like, well the Cowboys, they got through,

543
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 3: they got the win, but it wasn't pretty. This is

544
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,400
Speaker 3: not that, this is there's nothing to talk about about

545
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 3: the game. They ran all over them, they passed on them,

546
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 3: the defense destroyed them. I will say this, there were

547
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 3: some MVP chants at the game. I suspect Jalen Hurts

548
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,639
Speaker 3: is gonna see his MVP odds get even closer to

549
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 3: Evan odds.

550
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 1: Now yeah, is he the favorite?

551
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 2: Now yeah?

552
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,880
Speaker 1: I assume he must be hurt because.

553
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 2: Holmes plus one forty then borrow Allen.

554
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 1: To a so yeah.

555
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,439
Speaker 3: So well, we'll get to Mahomes in a minute. But

556
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 3: to me, this game is not why Hurts is the MVP.

557
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 3: I think this is why he's not the MVP. And

558
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 3: that's not a diss on him. It's because the Eagles

559
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 3: are just good. The whole team is good. The blocking

560
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 3: is good, the running game is good, the receivers are good,

561
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 3: the defense is great, the coaching is good. Josh Allen

562
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,439
Speaker 3: is more valuable to his team because of all the

563
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,640
Speaker 3: reasons we said he has to do everything for them.

564
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts doesn't have to do everything. The Eagles as

565
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:44,640
Speaker 3: a team destroyed a quality Giants team that honestly might

566
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 3: be at the expiration date seven to five and a one.

567
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 3: They've got Washington, Minnesota, India, and Philly left. They probably

568
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 3: need two of those wins. I don't I don't know

569
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 3: if I see two on there, like they could get them,

570
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 3: but I think I might make them an underdog in

571
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 3: maybe all four of those games, depending on how the

572
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 3: Colts look when we get there. I think the Giants

573
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 3: this may be I was going to say the beginning

574
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:08,640
Speaker 3: of the end, but we might be a couple weeks

575
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 3: past that.

576
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:15,199
Speaker 2: You're Minnesota Vikings. The world, the world picks against them

577
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 2: this week. They open as small favorites early in the week,

578
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,160
Speaker 2: probably right when we were doing this show a week ago.

579
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 2: Now Monday morning, I think they were still favorites minus one,

580
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 2: one and a half. Then that line flips and the

581
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 2: Detroit Lions were minus one. Then they got to minus two,

582
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 2: then they got to minus two and a half before

583
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 2: kickoff today, the world was on this team. And just

584
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 2: to want to give the quick perspective, if you haven't

585
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 2: heard this note, I think it's worth repeating. Five and

586
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 2: seven Lions favored against the ten and two Vikings. The

587
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 2: last time a team with its starting quarterback in an

588
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 2: eighty percent win rate was an underdog against a team

589
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 2: who was under five hundred. You have to go back, folks.

590
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 2: Eight eighteen years ago eighteen. The Falcons were nine and

591
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 2: two with Michael Vick, who was famous at that time

592
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,239
Speaker 2: for getting on the Madden cover and he maybe might

593
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 2: be the most unstoppable video game player ever in terms

594
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 2: of picking a game and a player at a certain position.

595
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 2: Michael Vick on the Madden cover and that era was

596
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 2: a freaking beast. They were one and a half point dogs.

597
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 2: That sounds familiar, I guess the Tampa Bay Buccaneers who

598
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 2: were four and seven. The Bucks won the game twenty

599
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 2: seven to nothing. Evan Abrams had this note and he

600
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 2: mentioned it during the week. Only eight times has this

601
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 2: kind of scenario played out, and the game's been played

602
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 2: in December or later. Those eight teams his favorites eight

603
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,959
Speaker 2: and oh straight up seven to zero one against the spread.

604
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 2: Its meaning the underdog won the game and it played

605
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 2: out that they should cover the spread. They did, and

606
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 2: they won this game thirty four to twenty three. But hey,

607
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 2: Lions do it. The luck ran out a little bit yeah.

608
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 3: I mean it was interesting listening to the dialogue about

609
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 3: this game from like the you know on NFL Red

610
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 3: Zone and the folks on TV.

611
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 1: Like oh wow, wow, look, oh great performance by the Lions.

612
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 1: They got the win. Here, No, we could stop being

613
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 1: surprised they were favored. We don't have to be.

614
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 3: Surprised when the team that is favored wins the game.

615
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 3: They were favored and one exactly the way that everyone

616
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 3: said they would all week. No one was smarter the

617
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 3: next guy. The Lions are good. The Vikings are kind

618
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,479
Speaker 3: of okay. The Lions are kind of okay, And the

619
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 3: Lions are right home and played well. That's it like this,

620
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 3: I don't even really take too much of a downgrade

621
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 3: here on the Vikings. They're kind of what we thought

622
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 3: they were. They passed well in this game, justin Jefferson

623
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 3: had a record yardage game. They couldn't stop him. But

624
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 3: the difference was the Vikings turnover twice, they were one

625
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 3: of two and fourth down two four in the red zone.

626
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 1: The Lions were more efficient. There was a good team.

627
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 3: Honestly, you could tell me that the Lions are the

628
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 3: fourth best team in the offse right now, Like it

629
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 3: if we know with the top three is I don't

630
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 3: know why the Lions aren't as good as the Vikings,

631
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 3: who should be the fourth answer there? They just beat

632
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 3: them by double digits. Here, the lines are good, They're coming.

633
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 3: They're only a game back now of Seattle Island for

634
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 3: the playoffs. I think they're up to twenty one percent.

635
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 3: To make I look, we did Lions over in the

636
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 3: season a couple of weeks ago. They're only a game

637
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 3: away from hitting that. I don't know if I need

638
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 3: a bet the playoffs yet because the number hasn't been

639
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 3: good yet. I've been eyeing it and waiting. But week

640
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 3: to week though, this is just a team that you

641
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 3: want to play right now. They're playing great football on

642
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 3: both sides.

643
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 2: I think it's poetic justice a little bit too. For

644
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 2: the Vikings. Their point differential was plus ten going into

645
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 2: this game. They lost by eleven, so their point differential

646
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 2: at ten and three is minus one. That is freaking weird.

647
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 2: That's interesting.

648
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 3: By the way, we talked about this one, I think

649
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 3: on the podcast last week because at the time you

650
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 3: brought up I think on the look ahead, would I

651
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 3: be on the Vikings here because the line.

652
00:31:58,040 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 1: Was so short?

653
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 3: Is disrespectful, and I think I said at the time

654
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 3: that I thought maybe the Lions even were the better team,

655
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 3: and I wouldn't be surprised if they'd win by double digits.

656
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 3: So that's not even nihilistic Brandon here, That's just this

657
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 3: is who the Vikings are. This was an even game,

658
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 3: and the Lions need a little more and they got it.

659
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 3: Jamison Williams too, the rookie got his first touchdown to

660
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 3: add another piece to this team. Detroit is dangerous.

661
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 2: Three more to get to Jacksonville, Tennessee. The Titans, whoof

662
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 2: I mean, Mike Frabel sounded really deflated in that press conference.

663
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 2: They fired their GM after the AJ Brown breakout game

664
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 2: against his former team. And you've got Jacksonville in a

665
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 2: BILO spot, coming in as a dog in this ballgame,

666
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 2: and they handle their business and then some thirty six

667
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 2: twenty two.

668
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, a huge day for Trevor Lawrence. Three hundred and

669
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 3: sixty eight yards, three touchdowns, one on the ground. Huge

670
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 3: day for Evan Ingram, apparently because he was playing against

671
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 3: me in fantasy in a must win spot. One hundred

672
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 3: and sixty two yards and two scores. Thanks for that,

673
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 3: Evan Ingram, who I didn't even know a team yere

674
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 3: on before this game. The takeaway here is that the

675
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 3: Titans defense just didn't have the guys. The defense. The

676
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 3: injury report. You know, Luke talked about this. This was

677
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 3: one of his picks for the game on our podcast,

678
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,959
Speaker 3: and he nailed it that the injury report just was terrible.

679
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 3: They're missing all four presumed starting linebackers, both cornerbacks in

680
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 3: this game. They just didn't have the guys. So, you know,

681
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 3: Jacksonville is only two games back now on the division.

682
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:35,479
Speaker 3: Jacksonville hosts Tennessee to close the season, so they're hanging around.

683
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 3: They have a chance here. They got Dallas next week,

684
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 3: so it could be tough, but they control the typebreaker.

685
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 3: Tennessee is definitely stumbling toward the finish line.

686
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 1: We'll see. We'll see.

687
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 2: Jaggs ended an eight game losing streak in Tennessee with

688
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 2: that win. Today Cleveland Cincinnati. This one was interesting more so,

689
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 2: I think from a line perspective, how the line dropped

690
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 2: throughout the week. When Luke gave out the pick of

691
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 2: six and a half on the podcast, you saw four

692
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 2: this morning, Cleveland plus four Bengals won twenty three to ten.

693
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 2: Another underwhelming performance by the Cleveland offense. As we urged

694
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,240
Speaker 2: people on the pod during the week, keep in mind,

695
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,280
Speaker 2: you see Cleveland score whatever, it was, twenty six points,

696
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 2: but they got all of those points from their defense.

697
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 2: The way they scored against the Texans Bengals hand, it's

698
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 2: kind of what you said earlier in the podcast. If

699
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 2: you're a good team like Cincinnati, just get in, get out,

700
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 2: do what you gotta do. Handle your business. Their defense, though,

701
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,959
Speaker 2: I think was pretty daunting. Once again, pretty darn good.

702
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 1: Yeah.

703
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 3: I mean, the Bengals dominated this game twenty to three

704
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 3: and then basically just coasted from there. Deshaun Watson finished

705
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 3: at exactly zero point zero zero EPA per play, which

706
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 3: is pretty much how I feel about him at this point.

707
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 3: It's not good. They have now played eight quarters with

708
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 3: Deshaun Watson. The offense has scored a six points in

709
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 3: eight quarters, so two points a quarter. It's not going

710
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 3: to get you very far in the NFL. They're not

711
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:10,359
Speaker 3: running the ball well anymore, they're not passing well. It's

712
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 3: not great. You look, it's been a long time away

713
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 3: for him, but it's not good so far. And I

714
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 3: think the Browns are still getting a little too much

715
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 3: credit on the lines. So you want to keep betting

716
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 3: against this team right now?

717
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: Yep?

718
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 2: And they're a three point favorite at home against Baltimore.

719
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 2: That's interesting, Like, what's that like if they don't have

720
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,800
Speaker 2: DeShawn Right, I'm just I can't help but think that way.

721
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 2: But maybe that's baked in. I'm not sure. Maybe folks

722
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 2: are catching up, or maybe they want maybe the bookmakers

723
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 2: are light. Let's keep thinking people like this is going

724
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 2: to be the game for DeShawn to play his best,

725
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 2: but for Cleveland also, they're in a situation where their

726
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 2: playoff lives are definitely at stake. I'm pulling it up now.

727
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 2: I don't have it in front of me.

728
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 3: The Browns playoff lives are when they put that graphic

729
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 3: on the screen of playoff odds, they're like the twelfth

730
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 3: team on the very end where you're like, oh, thanks

731
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 3: for including us on the graphic. That's the Browns playoff

732
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 3: hopes right now.

733
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I since Cincinnati would want some revenge the way

734
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,280
Speaker 2: they got beat a Monday night and Joe Burrow finally

735
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,359
Speaker 2: beat them. That's the other takeaway too, Joe Burrow finally

736
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 2: beats the Browns in his career. Okay, last, but not least.

737
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:15,919
Speaker 2: Kansas City League.

738
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 1: Denver, it is the least.

739
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:21,320
Speaker 2: It is the least. Well Denver scores twenty eight points.

740
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 2: They deserves a little bit of credit. But the one

741
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 2: night Joe is not here. He is not here to

742
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,879
Speaker 2: recap the Denver Broncos and their incompetence because they did

743
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,240
Speaker 2: trail in this game twenty seven to nothing. And I, folks,

744
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 2: I laughed, I laughed at the TV.

745
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,720
Speaker 1: I really don't have anything to offer you, guys, except

746
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:39,280
Speaker 1: for a frozen pizza.

747
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 2: I called Jill at Coward on the Best Bets podcast

748
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 2: on Thursday, because he rags on this team in this

749
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 2: very spot, this probably this time of the night, because

750
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 2: we always saved Denver for last because it's putrid offense,

751
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 2: and what do you know. Russell Wilson kind of played

752
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 2: like he did in Seattle, like I'll put the team

753
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 2: on my back, make it interesting. Maybe not win the game,

754
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 2: which was what kind of occurred down the stretch in

755
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 2: his career in Seattle, but at least make it interesting.

756
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 2: And folks are just blown away by how great he

757
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 2: is at the end for the theatrics and making games close.

758
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 2: Kansas City Patrick Mahomes was not great in this game.

759
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 2: He wanted to do everything he could to give it

760
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:21,399
Speaker 2: away or get the other team, being Denver, back into it.

761
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,720
Speaker 2: Chiefs win thirty four to twenty eight. Broncos do cover

762
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 2: the spread. I said on Thursday, I would eat a

763
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 2: frozen pizza on our podcast if the Broncos cover with

764
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 2: Jill being out tonight because he's not feeling really well,

765
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 2: I will uphold my end of the bargain. I will deliver.

766
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 2: I'm a man of my word. I will eat the

767
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 2: pizza in Jill's presence so he can then call me

768
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,320
Speaker 2: a coward back. But I still thought it was cowardly

769
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 2: and that's about it. Chiefs do win, though I'm not

770
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 2: sure what you take away though, like Denver's still bad.

771
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:58,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I was basically the Broncos cover Jill.

772
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 1: Jill had it all the way. How you planned it?

773
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 3: Just get down twenty seven to nothing and then just

774
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 3: you know, come on back. The takeaway for me was

775
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 3: twenty seven nothing, three minutes till the half. PA Mahomes

776
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,919
Speaker 3: throws an interception, Yeah, no big deal, whatever, Broncos score

777
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 3: a touchdown, who cares throws another interception, They get another touchdown.

778
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 3: They come out in a half with another touchdown, Mahomes

779
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 3: throws another interception.

780
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 1: The Chiefs didn't blow the game.

781
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 3: It's another one of those where the better team hung

782
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 3: on to get the win. I think Pad Mahomes going

783
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 3: to cast himself the MVP in this game.

784
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 1: It's it's point.

785
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 3: It is in the conversation now, And that's why you

786
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 3: said the odds earlier. That's why the odds flipped here.

787
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 3: Three interceptions, not in this game like they won the game.

788
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 3: So it's fine. But at the end of the year,

789
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 3: when I pull up my stats and I'm an MVP voter,

790
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 3: and I say, Okay, how are these guys doing. Ah

791
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 3: Mahomes has eleven interceptions. Man, that's like second or third

792
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 3: in the league. That's not great. Jalen Hurts, He's got

793
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 3: way less interceptions. Like that number matters, It actually matters.

794
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 3: It's been historically relevant in the vote. I think it

795
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,399
Speaker 3: was damaging the MVP case. That is the first time

796
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:06,240
Speaker 3: I have genuinely considered Jalen Hurts as a real threat

797
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:10,280
Speaker 3: to these AFC quarterbacks. So I think that's the takeaway

798
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,839
Speaker 3: for me. And of course Russell Wilson got the big

799
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:13,439
Speaker 3: hit late.

800
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 1: He left Woozy.

801
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 3: I'm not sure that we're gonna see him any time soon,

802
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 3: wherett Rippon came in for him, so, if possible, Denver

803
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 3: might have gotten worse by the way. I took the

804
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 3: under on this game. Broncos unders eleven and one. We

805
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 3: nearly hit the over at halftime, so that went.

806
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 1: Well for me.

807
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 2: I forgot about that too. Yeah, the Broncos under, and

808
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 2: that clearly was not the case. So okay, well there

809
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 2: you go, Jill, I honorable mention. We got it in

810
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 2: there and you got the cover, and that's good, so

811
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 2: everyone's happy. Oh and I'll add I will get the

812
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 2: grossest frozen pizza. I'm not gonna get one. I like,

813
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 2: I feel like I got to eat one that's like

814
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 2: really nasty and like looks disgusting.

815
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 3: You can get one of those Canadian ones with the

816
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 3: toppings all falling off of it that Jill posts the

817
00:39:58,880 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 3: picture of.

818
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:00,040
Speaker 1: You gotta get one of.

819
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 2: So I won't spend a lot of money on it.

820
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 2: I'll just get something really cheap. He wants to eat,

821
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 2: David says, eat it frozen, not cooked. That's that's really

822
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 2: that's that's rude, that's mean. Yeah, I'll just get one

823
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 2: that's really disgusting. I think that's fair, all right, big

824
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 2: week for favorites. In week thirteen, they went nine to

825
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 2: four against the number. Well, favorites went four and seven

826
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:24,280
Speaker 2: this week, underdogs bounce back for to one outright. Ravens, Panthers,

827
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 2: Chargers and Jaguars touchdown favorites one and two against the number. Cowboys,

828
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:33,800
Speaker 2: Chiefs didn't cover, Eagles did the over hit in seven

829
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 2: of eleven games. Best Bets podcast from Thursday, as we've

830
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 2: discussed four to three and one this week, the one

831
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 2: push was the Cincinnati second half pick from Brandon. If

832
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:46,240
Speaker 2: you got the two and a half that he also

833
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 2: put on the app, kudos. He's got Patriots minus one

834
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 2: and a half tomorrow, which is a great segue to

835
00:40:53,640 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 2: Monday night Patriots and Cardinals from Glendale. The number is

836
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 2: still one and a half, Brandon, and the totals at

837
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 2: forty three and a half. I guess you're just sitting

838
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 2: tight here and letting this one play out. But any

839
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 2: developing thoughts from Thursday to now on this game.

840
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:22,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, we saw the injury report. Arizona cornerback Byron Murphy

841
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 3: is unlikely to play here He's really important to that defense,

842
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 3: so that's a real loss for them. Rondale Moore one

843
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:32,720
Speaker 3: of those receiving weapons for the Cardinals, He's unlikely to play.

844
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 1: So I just I.

845
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 3: Feel pretty good about the Patriots here. This is my

846
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 3: favorite spread of the week, and usually it's not the

847
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 3: case on a Monday night game, but we talked about

848
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,399
Speaker 3: this on Green Dot Daily. I think we talked about

849
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 3: this here on My Best Bet. Let me just lay

850
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 3: out the case again here. Bill Belichick had extra time

851
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 3: for this game because the Patriots played Thursday, so we

852
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 3: got Bill Belichick with extra time in a coin flip

853
00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 3: against Cliff Kingsbury. You had me at hello. All the

854
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:04,280
Speaker 3: Belichick trends sixty five percent against the spread after a loss,

855
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 3: sixty percent against NFC teams, sixty five percent in toss

856
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,839
Speaker 3: up spreads, and then the ones that I love here

857
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 3: after a loss as a seven point favorite or anything

858
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:18,760
Speaker 3: less than that, Belichick is forty one and eleven against

859
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 3: the spread, seventy nine percent cover rate lifetime. So I

860
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 3: just like the Patriots here. The Patriots defense third in

861
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:31,280
Speaker 3: defense DVA. Cardinals offense is bottom five on the season.

862
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,320
Speaker 3: The defense is down to bottom five. The last six weeks,

863
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:38,760
Speaker 3: Cardinals are twenty ninth in success rate as an offense

864
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,839
Speaker 3: play by play against the defense that ranks top five

865
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 3: at that So I don't think that they're going to

866
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 3: be able to put together drives here and get down

867
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 3: the field on the team. Look, Cliff Kingsbury has an underdog.

868
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 3: That's a spot where you've heard me support them before.

869
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,359
Speaker 3: But we like them better on the road, and we

870
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 3: like them better against coaches that have not won a

871
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 3: Super Bowl. Well, Belichick, I believe it was won a

872
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 3: Super Bowl or seven hundred.

873
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 1: So that's not good in this game.

874
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 3: Kyler Murray only won one of his last ten home games,

875
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 3: and of course, as Matt Mitchell, our producer would like

876
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 3: us to know to it's second half of the season,

877
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:18,240
Speaker 3: Cliff Kingsbury. You got to barry Kingsbury down the stretch here.

878
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 1: I don't know.

879
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 3: The number is short enough that it's the only reason

880
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:24,919
Speaker 3: I don't like this a little bit because it makes

881
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:26,359
Speaker 3: me be like, what am I missing here?

882
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 1: But I just got to ride it. Bill Belichick.

883
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 3: With extra time to prepare against late season Cliff Kingsbury,

884
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 3: I don't know if I needed to give any other analysis.

885
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 1: That's that play the Patriots.

886
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 2: Belichick's been taking a lot of heat in this town.

887
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 2: I live in the Boston area because of the offensive

888
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 2: play calling, and it looked okay on Thanksgiving Night against Minnesota.

889
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 2: The way they looked last week was not very good,

890
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 2: which was against because against Buffalo, right, Buffalo is our

891
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 2: last game that feels like forever ago.

892
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 1: Wow it does wow.

893
00:43:57,840 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, Matt Patricia taken a lot of heat as the

894
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 2: offensive play caller for the Patriots.

895
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 3: For me, it just comes down to, like, I don't know.

896
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,839
Speaker 3: I don't love the Patriots offense. I don't love Mac Jones.

897
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,320
Speaker 3: I don't love what they're doing there. Whoever is calling

898
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,839
Speaker 3: the plays, I don't feel great about it. But the

899
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 3: Cardinals defense doesn't scare me. And the Cardinals like whoever

900
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:21,280
Speaker 3: is calling plays for the Patriots, anybody like Nathaniel Hackett

901
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 3: could call plays that would improve this Cardinals offense. Joe

902
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 3: Lombardi could call plays that might improve this Cardinals offense.

903
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 1: Like they what are they doing?

904
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 3: They have great receivers, they have a great quarterback, and

905
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 3: they just throw these stupid bubble screens and sideways to

906
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 3: crap all game. It's like this is not the big twelve.

907
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:43,800
Speaker 3: Kingsbury like learn how to play offense in the big leagues,

908
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 3: and he just never has. And this is Bill Belichick.

909
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 3: This is as big leagues as it gets, with a

910
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 3: defense that's been very good. They pressure the quarterback, they

911
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 3: don't allow long drives. I just think Belichick's defense is

912
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 3: the answer here for whatever other questions will be asked.

913
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,360
Speaker 2: If I had I guess if Jill was going to

914
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 2: give out an anytime touchdown pick, which I think he

915
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 2: will on Green Dot Daily, I'm trying to make a

916
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 2: well thought out assumption. AJ Green plus eleven hundred, No

917
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 2: Rondale Moore. AJ Green's a red zone guy. That's where

918
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 2: I feel like he might go tomorrow. That's just a hunch.

919
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 2: I'm guessing. I don't want to steal Jill's thunder. I

920
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 2: don't want to put words in his mouth. Okay, And

921
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:25,320
Speaker 2: the favorite to, by the way, score touchdown tomorrow is

922
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 2: Romandre Stevenson minus one sixty.

923
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 3: The guy that came to my mind. I don't give

924
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 3: me the odds on this one. I'm not a touchdown guy,

925
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 3: so I'm just I'm throwing a dart here. But John

926
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,839
Speaker 3: new Smith, the backup tight end, give me like a

927
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 3: goal line long shot touchdown. All right, that's my guy,

928
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 3: John news Smith. Let's see if we can pull one through.

929
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:49,800
Speaker 3: We're missing Jacobe Myers that security blanket like you mentioned,

930
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 3: and you know we get those kind of play action

931
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 3: goal line throw it to the backup tight end Cardinals

932
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 3: are Historically the Cardinals have been horrible, horrible against tight

933
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 3: end for years now. So I think that's a good

934
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 3: spot for it.

935
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 2: Let's get to the hot read for week fifteen. Then

936
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:07,839
Speaker 2: we'll get out of here and we can say good night.

937
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:08,720
Speaker 1: Hot Rock.

938
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 2: On ice Rights ice Cream nineteen seven nineteen. So what

939
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:24,359
Speaker 2: is your pick? I know you talked about or attempted

940
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 2: to go with Seattle, which, by the way, I just

941
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:31,439
Speaker 2: saw the tweets from our coworkers giving you a hard

942
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:34,879
Speaker 2: time about Seattle Island. I'm chuckling, and I also feel bad.

943
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:36,720
Speaker 2: It's kind of funny.

944
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 3: Uh, it's funny. It's funny, and I didn't play it today.

945
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 3: When I played it, I played live and I won

946
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 3: money off of it. So you can make fun of

947
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 3: Seattle Island all you want. We made a lot of

948
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,839
Speaker 3: money out the island and we might go there again

949
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 3: on Thursday. It's not a hot read because, as you know, Brendan,

950
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 3: the hot read is about grabbing the line before it moves,

951
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,800
Speaker 3: and the line is not going to move toward Seattle.

952
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 3: It's not gonna give us Seattle any problems here. We

953
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 3: can get that line anytime we want this week, because

954
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 3: ain't nobody will want to bet on Seattle Island this

955
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:09,839
Speaker 3: week against the hot forty nine ers. So we'll see

956
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 3: if I talk myself into that one. Keep an eye

957
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 3: on the app The line I want to grab right

958
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 3: now for the line move is I tease this a

959
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 3: little bit earlier. I don't buy this Panthers team. I'm

960
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 3: going to Carolina and I'm taking the road. Pittsburgh Steelers.

961
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 3: I see a plus two and a half out there.

962
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 3: Give me the points because I liked the Steelers spot

963
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 3: before the game. This was almost one of my look aheads.

964
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 3: But I didn't know if Pittsburgh for sure would get

965
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 3: the win against Baltimore. Those games are I was tough.

966
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:42,399
Speaker 3: And here's the thing. After beating the Ravens the week

967
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 3: after that, the Steelers in our system are six and

968
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 3: twelve against the spread. Mike Tomlin after beating the Ravens

969
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 3: four and eleven ats after losing to the Ravens, which

970
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:57,320
Speaker 3: is what happened eleven and five ats.

971
00:47:57,600 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 1: That's the big rivalry game.

972
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 3: So either you have letdown after you won, or you

973
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 3: have the oh no you didn't, we're getting this back

974
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 3: after you lost.

975
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 1: We got the after the loss effect.

976
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 3: Now, I'm not gonna call this a raw Rod Tomlin

977
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 3: underdog spot. It's the Panthers, it's Sam Darnold. So let's

978
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:17,879
Speaker 3: not make too big of an underdog spot here out

979
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,360
Speaker 3: of this. Still an underdog though, so the number is

980
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 3: still there, forty and seventeen against the spread for Tomlin

981
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 3: Week five foroard as an underdog. I did look into

982
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 3: it though, after losing in the division and then being

983
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:34,359
Speaker 3: an underdog the following game. Tomlin is six to zero

984
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:38,359
Speaker 3: lifetime against the spread, has won outright all six of

985
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 3: those games. So you lose the division, you're an underdog

986
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 3: the next game. Mike Tomlin undefeated straight up and against

987
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 3: the spread as an underdog.

988
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 1: So I like the Steelers the rave. The Panthers won today.

989
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 3: Why because they were physical and they ran it right

990
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 3: at you and said, hey, we're gonna play big boy

991
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 3: football and beat you and Seattle Hootstown and they couldn't

992
00:48:59,560 --> 00:48:59,839
Speaker 3: do it.

993
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 1: Guess who.

994
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:03,400
Speaker 3: You can't do that against the steel Curtain ever in

995
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 3: the history of football. Can you play big boy football

996
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 3: and punk the Steelers. It's not going to happen. Their

997
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 3: defense is good. We've talked about the TJ a lot thing.

998
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 3: The run dye is good. That game plan, run the

999
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:17,839
Speaker 3: ball right up the middle and just try to hope

1000
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,720
Speaker 3: they can't tackle us. Not going to work against Pittsburgh.

1001
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 3: And I don't think Sam Darnold and Steve Looks have

1002
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 3: too many other answers. So I think Pittsburgh goes on

1003
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 3: the road. I'll take the win. I'll take the cover.

1004
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 3: We're going to hit our Steelers over next week in

1005
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:34,720
Speaker 3: the season. When they get that win, it's all happening

1006
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 3: for us. Don't buy into the Panthers. I don't see it.

1007
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:39,319
Speaker 2: Do you care who the quarterback is for Pittsburgh?

1008
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 1: I don't. That's a good question.

1009
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:44,280
Speaker 3: In fact, I'll say this, mich Umisky's honestly been pretty

1010
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 3: fine the season. He's been good. He's honestly been better

1011
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 3: than Canny Pickett. So I don't know that I even

1012
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 3: make that too much of a downgrade. I should have

1013
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 3: mentioned that because you're right to ask it, but I

1014
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,359
Speaker 3: think that the question mark there is maybe buying us

1015
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 3: a little.

1016
00:49:57,719 --> 00:49:58,840
Speaker 1: Bit of value as well.

1017
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 3: I feel okay, Whisky was quite good today. He had

1018
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:03,919
Speaker 3: three interceptions. Those are not good. Those are very bad,

1019
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:06,919
Speaker 3: very bad plays, But all the other plays, they moved

1020
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 3: the ball pretty well. The passing game has been honestly

1021
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 3: better when Trubisky was under center this year. Like when

1022
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 3: they made that switch, I thought it was a bit,

1023
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 3: you know, like that was we're going to pick it eventually. Anyways,

1024
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:19,840
Speaker 3: let's just do it. But I don't know that that

1025
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,839
Speaker 3: was a performance based things. He's been good. He's good

1026
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:25,439
Speaker 3: for Buffalo last year. He's been pretty solid for them.

1027
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 3: The receivers are good.

1028
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 1: I don't really mind.

1029
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,320
Speaker 3: I feel pretty good with either quarterback. I mean, the

1030
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 3: quarterback is not why I'm picking them, so I'm not

1031
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 3: really too worried about it either way.

1032
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 2: I figured your analysis sort of pointed to that, but

1033
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 2: I had to ask, and Mike Tomlin did say postgame

1034
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 2: that Kenny Pickett is in the concussion protocol. Left it

1035
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:47,399
Speaker 2: that that was about it.

1036
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 1: So yeah, I.

1037
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 3: Will say I would expect Trubisky like I am taking

1038
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:55,840
Speaker 3: this pick, assuming Truebisky and honestly, again, that makes me

1039
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 3: like it a little better because I think that that

1040
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 3: opens up the game a little more and is processing

1041
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:02,959
Speaker 3: it has been a little faster than pickets as well.

1042
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 2: All Right, that's gonna do it. We'll get you out

1043
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 2: of here, folks. Thanks so much for tuning into the

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1046
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