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Speaker 1: The Big Bets on Campus Podcast podcast.

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Speaker 2: Podcast All Right here we go.

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Speaker 3: Fifteen Conny twenty five, thirty thirty five, forty, twenty five, fifty.

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Speaker 4: The Kickers block Look College Football World. Stunner, Oh my goodness,

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Speaker 4: he stumble the football, the lateral turn a counter on

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Speaker 4: the job. Get you believe I table off the.

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Speaker 3: Field to night.

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Speaker 4: It's not the side on the dog anything.

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Speaker 3: It's the side of the fight. What's up the general nation?

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the Big Bets on Campus Podcast. This is

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Speaker 3: the SEC West Betting Preview. I'm stucky and with me

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Speaker 3: as always is Colin Wilson. The time is here. You

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Speaker 3: excited to finally talk razorback.

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Speaker 1: The SEC here?

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Speaker 3: It just means more.

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Speaker 2: It just means more, maybe our final season without before

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Speaker 2: the Sooners and the Longhorns come over. As a Razorback fan,

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Speaker 2: somebody that grew up with the Southwest Conference, I couldn't

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Speaker 2: be more giddy and more excited. Plus with this podcast,

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Speaker 2: I get a free license to talk about Arkansas as

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Speaker 2: much as I want. So cash all your tickets. This

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Speaker 2: was an easy one. Cash all your tickets because Colin's

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Speaker 2: going to talk about nineties razorback stuff pretty quick.

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Speaker 3: Cash your bets if you mentioned just a mention of

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Speaker 3: Arkansas within the first ninety seconds. But yeah, I mean

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Speaker 3: I liked the SECUS betting preview every year because I

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Speaker 3: could hear your thoughts on Arkansas. My notes for Arkansas

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Speaker 3: always super short. I'm like, I defer to Colin and

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Speaker 3: speaking of team experts, we'll also have very good friend

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Speaker 3: of the podcast, Brody Miller from The Athletic who will

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Speaker 3: join us to talk LSU, which I think is one

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Speaker 3: of the most intriguing programs coming into this year national title.

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Speaker 3: Disappointing year, lots of changes. Where do they stand. We'll

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Speaker 3: have a long interview with him. We'll even talk places

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Speaker 3: to go in Baton Rouge, but we'll cover a lot

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Speaker 3: with else people. Save that for the end. But let's

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Speaker 3: first start where I think we naturally have to start,

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Speaker 3: and that's with Alabama.

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Speaker 1: The Alabama Crimson Tide, Roll Tide, Roll Roll Tide.

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Speaker 3: The Alabama clearly a big favorite to win the SEC.

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Speaker 3: Favorite to win this division, as you would expect to believe,

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Speaker 3: they're right around minus four hundred minus four to twenty

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Speaker 3: five to win the SEC West. Texas A and M

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Speaker 3: comes in next around six to one. You know, then

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Speaker 3: LSU ten to one, Ole Miss fifteen to one, Auburn

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Speaker 3: sixteen to one, and so on and so forth. But

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Speaker 3: Alabama obviously historically dominant team last year that won the

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Speaker 3: national title. What they did they had, given their schedule

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Speaker 3: and how they did it nothing short of spectacular. But

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Speaker 3: they lose a lot, right, I mean, especially on offense.

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Speaker 3: You lose your starting quarterback, your top two receivers, you're

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Speaker 3: starting running back, three offensive linemen, four offensive assistants. You

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Speaker 3: have a new offensive coordinator coming in, So how is

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Speaker 3: the offense going to work with all of this change?

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Speaker 3: There's not that coordinator continuity and roster continuity that they

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Speaker 3: twenty eleven twenty twelve, and saying, look, he's only gone,

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Speaker 3: he's won seven total national tity. He's don't going back

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Speaker 3: to back one time and try to do that again

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Speaker 3: this year. It's a manageable schedule, but they have three

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Speaker 3: potentially tricky road games. You know, they go to Florida.

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Speaker 3: I think is we'll talk about them in our SEC

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Speaker 3: East preview, but I think they're going to take a

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Speaker 3: step back. But it's still in the swamp. Won't be

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Speaker 3: an easy game. They go to Texas A and M,

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Speaker 3: which most would agree is probably their hardest game of

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Speaker 3: the year than at Auvern. You know, the Iron Bowl

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Speaker 3: rivalry game to close out the year. Three potential spots

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Speaker 3: where they could slip up, and if they slip up

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Speaker 3: in one of those games, then you're over eleven and

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Speaker 3: a half. Wind total does not cash. The defense should

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Speaker 3: better defenses that Saban has had during his time in Tuscaloosa.

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Speaker 3: And they do lose a couple pieces on each level.

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Speaker 3: and then you lose Patrick's certains. I think that's one

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Speaker 3: The talent is always going to be there. They reload

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Speaker 2: The tide absolute perfection is about the only way that

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Speaker 2: you can sum up what we just saw in the

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty season. Number one overall in success rate, number

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Speaker 2: You're just you're not going to get this out of

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Speaker 2: just it really is for Nick Saban to ty Bear

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Speaker 2: Bryant with this season like that is a heck of

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Speaker 2: a statement. And you know that he's fired up to

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Speaker 2: probably you know, he's won more national championships than anybody

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Speaker 2: in college football all time, but now he's got the

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Speaker 2: chance to be the all time winnings Alabama coach. Not

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Speaker 2: really sure it's going to come this season. You mentioned

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Speaker 2: it's never happened back to back those years after he

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Speaker 2: wins the national championship, there's a loss mixed in there,

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Speaker 2: and I think we you know, we focus on the

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Speaker 2: future here, and the future is that only twenty six

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Speaker 2: percent of this offense comes back. Brian Robinson at running backs,

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Speaker 2: got some skill there, Listen, They're talented all over. Jelil

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Speaker 2: Billingsley is coming back at tight end, even though he

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Speaker 2: had some discipline are issues that kept him out of

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Speaker 2: the first week a practice. But really the big news

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Speaker 2: the plays after couple of years, moved on to Texas.

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Speaker 2: Now Bill O'Brien from the NFL, Bill Belichick, Nick Saban,

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Speaker 2: There's all these names that kind of float around those trees,

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Speaker 2: and now Bill O'Brien comes in to do the offensive

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Speaker 2: if Saban stays hands off with the offense. Pete Golding

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Speaker 2: has had some I don't know, not issues, but there's

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Speaker 2: been some problems with the defense over the last two years,

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Speaker 2: and Saban focused all his efforts on Pete Golding. I

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Speaker 2: wonder now if that comes back to Bill O'Brien, But

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Speaker 2: Saban has said through camp like Bill O'Brien's a pretty

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Speaker 2: smart guy. He can handle himself. And I don't think

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Speaker 2: schematically this is going to be that big of a problem.

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Speaker 2: I know that they only return twenty six percent, but schematically,

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Speaker 2: sark used the twelve formation more and more last year.

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Speaker 2: That's a two tight end set. You look at Bill

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Speaker 2: O'Brien what he did in the NFL, Houston Texans ran

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Speaker 2: I don't think schematically this is going to be that

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Speaker 2: I know John Metchi is there, and if you have

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Speaker 2: the best blocking wide receiver I've ever seen. You wan

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Speaker 2: to why Demanda Smith won the Heisman because John Metchi

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Speaker 2: a big one there, and it's time for him to shine.

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Speaker 2: And there's plenty of other wide receivers. We're gonna learn

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Speaker 2: their names. The offensive line, little I got a little

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Speaker 2: bit of a pause here on them. Alex Leatherwood eight

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Speaker 2: And I know the National Championship preview that I wrote,

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Speaker 2: So Bryce Young might be running for his life against

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Speaker 2: if it's a year to fade Saban, not really a

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Speaker 2: good year to you know, you can't really make a

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Speaker 2: lot of money fade and Saban. But this is exactly

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Speaker 2: not the kind of team that you want to play on.

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Speaker 2: Defense's odd You already mentioned it. Toto coming in from Tennessee.

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Speaker 2: He's really turning heads already. Pete Golding is still their

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Speaker 2: defensive coordinator. I mentioned that with Saban hand picked him

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Speaker 2: from UTSA. You and I were betting on UTSA four

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Speaker 2: or five years ago because Pete Golding ranked top twenty

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Speaker 2: The problem with me in Alabama is that this team

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Speaker 2: like twenty twenty. Their win total at eleven and a

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Speaker 2: and they're just not. So you know, the play is

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Speaker 2: under eleven and a half. Now where is the loss come?

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Speaker 2: Tex A and M has a great shot at home.

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Speaker 2: Lane Kiffin always is going to have a game plan

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Speaker 2: that's going to give Saban fits. So I think the

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Speaker 2: best bet instead of taking under eleven and a half,

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Speaker 2: Texas A and M should be plus seven and a

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Speaker 2: got at quarterback. They definitely have explosive running backs. We'll

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Speaker 2: get to them. Ole Miss definitely going to be you know,

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Speaker 2: really how you want to play it. There is a

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Speaker 2: You know, I believe it's around minus one forty is

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Speaker 2: I believe is what I saw. That's actually not a

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Speaker 4: And I'm gonna tell you what, if I had a

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Speaker 3: To say whether you were given effort or not, there

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Speaker 3: was about fifty percent.

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Speaker 2: Why did you push yourself?

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Speaker 3: I mean I personally went under eleven and a half

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Speaker 3: a lot of changes, but it's rivalry game at Auburn.

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Speaker 3: You know at Flood of the SWAP's not gonna be easy.

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Speaker 3: At TEXAM it's probably the likeliest loss. And yeah, Old

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Speaker 3: Miss maybe by Andy. I mean, who knows, with injuries

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Speaker 3: a full win total over. I personally went under a

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Speaker 3: seen it before and they don't go to the SEC tunal,

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Speaker 3: they can still go to the College Fwall playoff. So

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Speaker 3: I think they drop one along the way, and that's

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Speaker 3: just Alan is going to be loaded. That'st even in

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Speaker 3: the country like it was Power ratings. But I just

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Speaker 3: think that there's some questions. We'll see how great Bryce

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Speaker 3: going to be starting a quarterback for Alabama and almost

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Speaker 3: every position is highly talented, highly regarded, just an absolute stud.

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Speaker 3: But new quarterback, new coordinator, new assistance, a lot of

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Speaker 2: It seems like it's our third year in a row

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Speaker 3: I don't just support, just keep fighting with us. We

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Speaker 2: He runs a pro style offense. He believes in a fullback,

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Speaker 2: The defense is loaded nine of the top ten tacklers

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Speaker 3: Hey, you get Chapman back from injury as well at

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Speaker 2: The Mike Elco four two five was eleventh in Havoc.

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Speaker 2: That is a constant every single year. Mike Elko one

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Speaker 1: The Auburn Tigers more eagle.

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Speaker 3: When total under seven minus one twenty, it is bo

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Speaker 3: style offense. There's a new staff, there's new schemes on

431
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Speaker 3: both sides of the ball. Big, big change on this

432
00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:57,760
Speaker 3: with this offensive scheme, I mean, even from a running perspective,

433
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Speaker 3: and you have Tank Bigsby back in the backfield, you

434
00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,520
Speaker 3: know it'll be more inside runs than outside zone. Just

435
00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,639
Speaker 3: a lot of things are changing. Bow Knicks does get

436
00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,680
Speaker 3: Bigsby back and a very experienced offensive line, but it's

437
00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:10,840
Speaker 3: an offensive line. It's one of the reasons why I

438
00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:12,920
Speaker 3: think there's a number of reasons why I think Gus

439
00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,320
Speaker 3: Malsan had to go, and it was time. But the

440
00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:19,960
Speaker 3: offensive line recruiting has just been poor for SEC standards,

441
00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,880
Speaker 3: and they just were too small and not as talented upfront.

442
00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:26,560
Speaker 3: So I'm not sure this unit can really handle the

443
00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,480
Speaker 3: elite of the elite in the SEC. But you do

444
00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,280
Speaker 3: have more experience there upfront this year at least. The

445
00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:36,040
Speaker 3: problem is you're replacing your top three receivers, so you're

446
00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:39,040
Speaker 3: losing your top three receivers, and then you have this,

447
00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,240
Speaker 3: you know, brand new scheme, brand new coach. How much

448
00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,000
Speaker 3: can of a jump can bo Knicks make? We talked

449
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,040
Speaker 3: about Kellen mond home road splitz. I mean, go look

450
00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:50,200
Speaker 3: at bo Nix's home road splitz Grant at home, He's

451
00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,639
Speaker 3: been horrendous away from home. But how much of a

452
00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,600
Speaker 3: jump can bow Knicks take? Which is you know, for

453
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Speaker 3: Auburn to pull a couple upsets, maybe have a special

454
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Speaker 3: nine to ten win season here. I think this number

455
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Speaker 3: is about right. What are your thoughts on Auburn this year?

456
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Gus Mileson wins the Music City Bowl and

457
00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:10,840
Speaker 2: now they had to keep him for another year, just

458
00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:14,280
Speaker 2: delaying the inevitable. Right, I'm calling plays, I'm not calling plays,

459
00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:15,840
Speaker 2: Chad Morris is going to come in and take the

460
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,239
Speaker 2: fall like it just I don't know what's going on

461
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,600
Speaker 2: with Gustin this whole, you know, trying to escape taking

462
00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:24,359
Speaker 2: responsibility for calling the plays. But now that's Central Florida's problem.

463
00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,400
Speaker 2: Auburn went out and got a coach from Boise, which

464
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:31,399
Speaker 2: is quite interesting because the whole Arkansas State and Boise

465
00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:35,040
Speaker 2: State seem to like feed into the SEC. It's quite amazing.

466
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Speaker 2: So Andy Avolos, Butcher Jones, you guys are gonna be

467
00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:39,760
Speaker 2: the next onees in the SEC the next couple of years.

468
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Speaker 2: But I think it's really important to understand that this

469
00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:46,280
Speaker 2: is probably a coaching upgrade. If you look at Harrison's numbers,

470
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Speaker 2: I mean, the one year he was in the Sunbelt

471
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Speaker 2: Arkansas State, he won the Sun Belt Championship, he won

472
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:54,040
Speaker 2: three Mountain West titles. Boise was always in contention to

473
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Speaker 2: be the new Year six team, you know, consistently on

474
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Speaker 2: a year by year basis. He dominated recruiting for you know,

475
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:04,040
Speaker 2: for being from Boise with a blue turf and having

476
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,879
Speaker 2: to deal with USC and all those other organ on

477
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 2: the West coast, like they did really well. And I

478
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,639
Speaker 2: think this is a really good hire But where I

479
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 2: really was convinced that this is good for Auburn is

480
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:18,119
Speaker 2: when I started looking what Harrison did with quarterbacks in

481
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Speaker 2: his time at Boise State. Every year they ranked top

482
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 2: thirty five and pass plays that exceeded twenty yards. They

483
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 2: were an explosive pass unit every single year. It doesn't

484
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,119
Speaker 2: matter who the quarterback was, they were always top thirty

485
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 2: five in number of pass plays that went over twenty yards.

486
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Speaker 2: But more importantly, I went and calculated up every single

487
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,879
Speaker 2: season for every quarterback that Harrison coached at Boise State,

488
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 2: they had a differential between big time throws and turnover

489
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 2: worthy plays. The total differential was plus forty six. They

490
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:50,240
Speaker 2: just didn't make mistakes. You pivot that into bow Knicks.

491
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,960
Speaker 2: I mean, he's got his own little jingle on this podcast,

492
00:23:54,160 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 2: bow Nick Season full effect. Those road turnovers will cost you. Again,

493
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 2: It's cost me a lot of money over the years.

494
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 2: And I think, you know, when I look at a

495
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 2: number like plus forty six for the quarterbacks at Boise State,

496
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,639
Speaker 2: considering the talent that he's had at that position, this

497
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:11,639
Speaker 2: is a good thing for Bonnicks. It is bad that

498
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 2: they lost their top three receivers. Three amazing receivers Seth

499
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 2: Williams and Schwartz. But you know, Tank Bigsby is back.

500
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 2: You want to know if Tank is going to lose

501
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 2: some touches. Boise State ran their rush rate was about

502
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,479
Speaker 2: four percent less than what Gus Malzon was running. It's

503
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,639
Speaker 2: like a fifty one percent to a forty seven percent.

504
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 2: So you know, if Tank Bigsby is going to get

505
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 2: less carries and Bodenix is going to throw more than

506
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 2: bow Binicks, is really going to have to improve. You know,

507
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:39,680
Speaker 2: the defense is under new management. We have to mention

508
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 2: that Derek Mason, you know, freshly fired off Vanderbilt, comes

509
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,480
Speaker 2: in just to be the defensive coordinator here. Actually, I

510
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,400
Speaker 2: think that's a really good hire too. It takes the

511
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 2: head coaching responsibilities off of him. I seriously doubt Hertson

512
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:51,880
Speaker 2: is going to be involved in the defense. So I expect,

513
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 2: you know, some improvement there. And the thing is, this

514
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:56,959
Speaker 2: is a new scheme, and we like to fade teams

515
00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,680
Speaker 2: that have new schemes. But if you look at the schedule,

516
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 2: Akron Alabama State before they play Penn State, I'm not

517
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 2: too worried about Akron Alabama State burning this Auburn defense

518
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,360
Speaker 2: all of this positivity that I've just given you about Auburn.

519
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 2: I'm not playing any futures on him. I'm not going

520
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 2: to bet him week one, and I'm probably not going

521
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:15,879
Speaker 2: to bet him for a while. And the reason is

522
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,360
Speaker 2: because Greg Sankie, the commissioner of the SEC, came out

523
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 2: and said, I want every team to have an eighty

524
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 2: percent vaccination rate. You need to be above this number.

525
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:25,920
Speaker 2: Harson comes out. I know this is a couple weeks

526
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,880
Speaker 2: ago at SC media days, we're at sixty percent. That's

527
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 2: not even close, right, And I'm not screwing around anymore.

528
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 2: This whole COVID thing that we went through last year,

529
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 2: and this whole scrambling five minutes were kickoff to find

530
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,120
Speaker 2: out who's sick and who's not and whose girlfriend's got

531
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 2: stripped or whatever was. It's ridiculous here to try to

532
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 2: handicap as a sports investor. I'm not messing around with

533
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 2: teams with Auburn that are at sixty percent vaccination rate.

534
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 2: I like Harson coming.

535
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Speaker 3: In as coach.

536
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 2: I think bo Nick should improve. We should see if

537
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:53,639
Speaker 2: you should get a chicken sandwich deal. I see bo

538
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 2: Jangles with JT. Daniels, So maybe shake shack or Chick

539
00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,119
Speaker 2: fil A is looking for somebody. We'll see if that

540
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,679
Speaker 2: helps bon Nicks. It's a bow time broom like a

541
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 2: powder keg in your mouth sucking style. It's a no

542
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,639
Speaker 2: play from a futures perspective, the number is right in

543
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,439
Speaker 2: the wind total department. But I actually think Auburn's gonna improve.

544
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,479
Speaker 2: The trench needs to be worked on, though. You're right

545
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 2: though trench both sides of the ball.

546
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:16,160
Speaker 5: A lot of question works there.

547
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the defense moving to a three to

548
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 3: four I like the secondary. The secondary has a lot

549
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 3: of talent. With mccreer and company, they're gonna move to

550
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 3: like a three to four bare defense. So it's gonna

551
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,399
Speaker 3: be again big change on defense. The scheme changes are

552
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:33,120
Speaker 3: pretty drastic, and they lose Trusdale who just transferred suddenly.

553
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 3: He was running with the ones at the starting nose

554
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 3: tackle before there was two defensive tackles. So but there's

555
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 3: some talent on this defense, but there are some transfers

556
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,119
Speaker 3: that are gonna hurt. I like the secondary. How quickly

557
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,919
Speaker 3: can they get up to speed? Having two easy games

558
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 3: to start helps, But there's a lot of changes on

559
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:54,920
Speaker 3: both sides of the ball. And a new head coach.

560
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 3: I think it's a weight and see team. My win

561
00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 3: total is right around right under seven, which is this

562
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 3: implies if you look at their schedule, They're at Penn State,

563
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:08,679
Speaker 3: at LSU, you know, at Texas A and M at Arkansas.

564
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 3: I mean, those are four games that they could lose

565
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 3: on the road. There are other road games at South Carolina,

566
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,719
Speaker 3: so it's a brutal road schedule Penn State, LSU, Arkansas,

567
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,159
Speaker 3: Texas AM. When you consider they get Alabama and Georgia

568
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 3: at home. So the schedule is tough because you're Alburn

569
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 3: and the schedule is always going to be tough. So

570
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 3: I'm a little under seven. I think it's a wait

571
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 3: and see team.

572
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 2: If anybody wants conference realignment with divisions and stuff, it's

573
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 2: got to be Auburn because every other year Alabama and

574
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 2: Georgia's at home, or Alabama and Georgia's on the road.

575
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,400
Speaker 2: I mean, if anybody wants to shake up to schedules,

576
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Speaker 2: it's Auburn.

577
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, butt's move on to our next team here,

578
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:48,200
Speaker 3: which maybe they could benefit as well from a conference

579
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 3: line up. You could speak to that better than anyone else.

580
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:54,439
Speaker 1: Arkansas, the Arkansas Razorbacks win total.

581
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Speaker 3: You know, a couple of weeks ago, I saw it

582
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 3: over six plus one thirty ish. Today I saw it

583
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 3: over five and a half minus one twenty essentially your betting.

584
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Speaker 3: Can they get the bowl? Can they get the six

585
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 3: wins and guarantee your bowl won't go too much into

586
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 3: it other than they have their away games Georgia, Ole Miss,

587
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:16,399
Speaker 3: LSU and Alabama. Woo oh, well, they get text and

588
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,199
Speaker 3: they get Texas A and m in Arlington. So they

589
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 3: got Georgia, LSU, Alabama, Texas A and m Ole Miss

590
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,640
Speaker 3: all the way from home. They do get Pine Bluff

591
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 3: in Little Rock.

592
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 6: They can't They couldn't play that game, couldn't play that

593
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:32,440
Speaker 6: game at home. So I'll let you go into Sam

594
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 6: Pittman in year two and how much of an improvement

595
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 6: and just take it away.

596
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 3: Woo pig suy absolute dumpster fined dumps.

597
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 5: I don't know how we win a game the rest

598
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 5: of the year, just blowing program up.

599
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 3: Give us a death sentence.

600
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 1: Collins talking Razorback football.

601
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 2: It's like he's gonna get me hot about this ridiculous bullshit.

602
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 2: How we still have to play a game down in

603
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 2: a glorified high school Field More Memorial Stadium, and it

604
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 2: actually cost us like two million dollars travel the damn

605
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 2: band of everything, just because all of these fans from

606
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 2: Central Arkansas don't get me started. All right, So yeah,

607
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 2: we still play games in Little Rock, but at least

608
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 2: we've moved our conference games out of there. Monster turnaround

609
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 2: for WUPIG Suey Sam Pittman rebounds the entire program. I

610
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 2: know it was a three and seven record, but consider

611
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 2: two things. The Auburn game was completely stolen from us.

612
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 2: Should have been four and six, but who cares about

613
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 2: straight up records when this is a gambling podcast. They

614
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 2: went seven and three against the spread. Pittman was playing

615
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 2: a CEO type. Brought in Kendall Briles to call the offense,

616
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 2: hands off, it's yours. Brought in Barry Odom from Missouri

617
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 2: to call the defense, hands off, it's yours.

618
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 1: Arry Odom is a joke.

619
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Speaker 2: Pittman. His whole job is recruiting offensive line and player

620
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 2: development and player relations, and it pays because these guys

621
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 2: play out of their mind for this coaching staff. The

622
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 2: numbers are horrendous on defense, especially like one hundred and

623
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 2: first and success rate first and defensive havoc. But every

624
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 2: time the bumper Pool and Grant Morgan are making tackles,

625
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 2: there's nine other hats around them. Grant Morgan, Bumperpool, two

626
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 2: defenders that are back. They elected to comeback super senior

627
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 2: for Grant Morgan, two of the top five tacklers in

628
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 2: all of college football. That is a plus for Arkansas.

629
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 2: I think what most people want to talk about, though,

630
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 2: is the offense, and they should. kJ Jefferson one of

631
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 2: the best dual threat quarterbacks in the nation and he

632
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,479
Speaker 2: lines up with Treylon Burkes, who you could call him

633
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 2: a wide receiver, you can call him a running back,

634
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 2: you can call him whatever you want. He should be

635
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 2: a first round draft pick. If I was in the

636
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 2: NFL sitting around as the Ravens or somebody like the

637
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 2: Bucks or somebody that was going to go low first

638
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 2: round pick, I'd be all over Treylon Burkes. So you

639
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 2: know kJ Jefferson is going to take over for Felipe Franks.

640
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 2: He did so in the Missouri game last year, and

641
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 2: after that we got Treylon Smith running the ball. He

642
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 2: has shown some bursts of explosiveness, lots of yards after contact.

643
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 2: I think one thing that surprised everybody was a transfer

644
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 2: of Mike Woods. Mike Woods was a highlight reel at

645
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 2: wide receiver last year for Felipe Franks. He transferred out

646
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 2: to Oklahoma. A little bit of a mystery to everybody

647
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 2: that he left the Razorback program, But I think it

648
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 2: was just opportunity and the fact that you know, there

649
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 2: was someone telling him, you need to transferre to Oklahoma

650
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 2: for a team that's going to contend for a national championship.

651
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 2: If you do some reading on what's going on in

652
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 2: OU's camp right now, Spencer Rattler's favorite wide receiver is

653
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 2: Mike Woods. So I think Mike Woods leading Arkansas is

654
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 2: a really big deal to the Razorbacks. But I think,

655
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 2: you know, Mike Woods kind of knew that he wanted

656
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 2: to go catch balls with Spencer Rattler. The defense with

657
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 2: Barry Odam just some really bad numbers here outside the

658
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 2: top one hundred and like I said, sack rate. They

659
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 2: can't control the trench. They're letting teams push them all

660
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 2: up and down the field. Red zone defense, you know,

661
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 2: they finished sixty fourth in defensive finishing drives. The offense

662
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 2: really carried the water last year. The defense plays hard,

663
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 2: but I think if we're going to get to a

664
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 2: handicap on Arkansas. I do think that they're going to

665
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 2: make a bowl game. We made the Texas Bowl got

666
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 2: canceled by COVID. This team is hungry to make a bowl.

667
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 2: They're going to play their ass off for Pittman. But

668
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 2: this schedule is really tough Texas coming in week two

669
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 2: or tough Georgia Southern Triple coming in the next week.

670
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 2: Not easy. And Texas A and M on a neutral

671
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 2: site to follow that, That is not an easy thing

672
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 2: for these coaches to get through, especially getting prepped for

673
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 2: a Georgia Southern triple. And I know Georgia Southern's lost

674
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 2: a lot, but this is still a triple option that

675
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 2: most of these players have never seen before, and I'm

676
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 2: not sure the defense is ready for it. So here's

677
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 2: the deal. I'm not betting on Arkansas futures because of depth,

678
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 2: and that may sound like a cop out, but if

679
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 2: kJ Jefferson gets hurt, I can't even begin to list

680
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 2: off the name of kids that are so below replacement

681
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 2: level quarterbacks. If Treylon Burks gets hurt, there are so

682
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 2: many wide receivers. There's a little bit of skill there,

683
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 2: but it's below replacement level. Traylon Smith at running back

684
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 2: if he gets hurt, below replacement level, now we are

685
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 2: it's going to take Pittman two or three years to

686
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 2: reload the end of the belamet he stopped recruiting, were

687
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 2: finishing dead. Last Chad Morris comes in. It didn't get

688
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 2: any better in the recruiting department. You just don't go

689
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 2: overnight now this day and age, there is the transfer portal.

690
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 2: But you know, Pittman, we just have not filled the cupboard.

691
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 2: In case of kJ Jefferson gets hurt, in case of

692
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 2: Treylon Burks gets hurt. You look at this schedule, people

693
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,719
Speaker 2: are gonna get hurt. There's gonna be injuries, and you

694
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 2: can't handicap injuries. But at the same time, what I

695
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 2: can handicap is value over replacement player. And Arkansas does

696
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 2: not have the depth to recover from injuries. So six

697
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 2: is where I think they'll finish.

698
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 3: I think they will go to a bowl.

699
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 2: This team is highly motivated and even though the defense

700
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 2: gets pushed around, they hustle more than anybody else in

701
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 2: college football. So it's a no play for me. I

702
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 2: would play the over. I want to play the over,

703
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 2: but you're making a bet that kJ Jefferson will stop

704
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 2: taking hits. He loves to take hits when he takes

705
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,719
Speaker 2: off from the pocket. He needs to mature in that

706
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 2: aspect and grow. He's an explosive player all over the field,

707
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 2: but he's got to stay healthy.

708
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean when I when I did look at

709
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 3: this team, By the way, did you give a shirt

710
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 3: for twenty twenty Razorbacks seven and three against the spread?

711
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,720
Speaker 3: So when I did look at them, you know, I said,

712
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 3: how much can Pittman? You know, he's an offensive line guy.

713
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 3: How much can the offensive line which has been a

714
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 3: problem but this is his second year. How much can

715
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,479
Speaker 3: the offensive line improve just based on his coaching? That's

716
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 3: big because if that offensive line could approve, I mean,

717
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 3: they gave off just a ton of SATs last year,

718
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 3: a ton of pressure. It's an undersized unit for for

719
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 3: you know, an SEC team. If the offensive line could

720
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 3: take a big step forward, it's going to really help

721
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 3: the offense. But my biggest problem is just number one.

722
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 3: I hope that they play it. They also need to

723
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 3: just play more man on defense, I think, but that's

724
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 3: a topic for another day. But they have I mean,

725
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 3: you look at their schedule. If you assume they lose

726
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 3: to Texas, they don't beat Texas in week two, you know,

727
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 3: and then they got A and M in Arlington. You're

728
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 3: at Georgia, at Ole, miss at LSU, and at Alabama.

729
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 3: I mean, that is brutal. So what it might come

730
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 3: down to, you know, to get to six. There's a

731
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 3: good shot it comes down to a game against Missouri

732
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 3: at the end of the year. So why tie up

733
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 3: your money, is my thought process. Maybe they can finally

734
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 3: be Missouri. They lost five in a row to the Tigers,

735
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 3: but that game will be at home. I don't think

736
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 3: it's some pine bluff, and I think it's a good

737
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:16,839
Speaker 3: chance that could be for Bulge buddy. Maybe they're at

738
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 3: six there, but with that schedule, it's not like they're

739
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 3: gonna be playing They're getting to eight or nine wins

740
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:21,399
Speaker 3: this year.

741
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 2: That Missouri game, if you want to take a little

742
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,720
Speaker 2: quick YouTube break and go watch highlights from that Missouri

743
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 2: game that ended last season, that's the prime example of

744
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 2: why I'm not investing any money on a team without depth.

745
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 2: Because Grant Morgan gets hurt, comes out of the game,

746
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 2: Blumperpool gets hurt, comes out of the game, and Missouri

747
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 2: comes back from two scores down and then we had

748
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,800
Speaker 2: no answer for the rest of the game. Missouri was

749
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 2: able to put up fifty points on us because we

750
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 2: lost our top two defenders on defense and they just

751
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 2: didn't have any depth to take it over. It was

752
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 2: just and you know that depth is still not there.

753
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 2: This is still a play on team when they're healthy.

754
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 2: I might be able to be talked into it with Texas,

755
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,800
Speaker 2: considering Start keeps making comments that we're not at the

756
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:00,800
Speaker 2: level that I want us to be in the quarterbacks.

757
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 2: We'll see what happens with Texas. But you know, Arkansas

758
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 2: still doesn't have the depth. In that Missouri game that

759
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 2: lost last year to them up in Columbia, it's a

760
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,879
Speaker 2: prime example of how we're just not ready to hang

761
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,240
Speaker 2: with the big dogs from a death perspective in the SEC.

762
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 3: All right, fair enough, let's move on to Mississippi State.

763
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 1: The Mississippi stateful Dogs.

764
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 3: Went total over six minus one fifteen. Mike Leach year two.

765
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 1: Mike Leach is a monster.

766
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 3: Now, look, let's give Mike Leach this. Last year, he

767
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 3: was coming into a school and program and doing a

768
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 3: one to eighty offense, a complete change in a COVID

769
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 3: shortened preparation year and then then they had an LS

770
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 3: game and it's like, WHOA, how do they do this?

771
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 3: Then obviously they can crash them down to Earth. Their

772
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:49,280
Speaker 3: offense was awful. Their defense scored I believe fourteen percent

773
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 3: of their touchdowns for the year, that was the highest

774
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 3: in FBS. But it's year two. Now you get a

775
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 3: full spring, full camp. How much can the offense have

776
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 3: prove If you go back to Washington State on the

777
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 3: police when Mike Leach was there in his first two years,

778
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 3: first year they averaged about twenty twenty and a half

779
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 3: points per game, the next year thirty one. So how

780
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 3: much can they air rate improve, especially if you consider

781
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 3: they have a quarterback back. Maybe it's a quarterback competition

782
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 3: here Will Rogers, who did show some improvement as the

783
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 3: year went on. It was a lot of just a

784
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 3: lot of dink and dunk, not much down the field,

785
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 3: but you'll get that with the air raid. That's a

786
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 3: great point. We were like one of the most constipated

787
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 3: offenses on earth, and you know we and then also

788
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 3: it looks like Chase Lovers is South Alabama transfer Those

789
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 3: are one and two according to Leach and recent reports.

790
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 3: The defense should be solid and they're three to four defense.

791
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 3: That just Mississippi State defense, I mean last year was

792
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 3: very underrated. Unit kept them in games, But it's how

793
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 3: much can that offense improve an offense that also started

794
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 3: for freshmen last year. My only thief is that I

795
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 3: just look and it's a lot of changes. Did' even

796
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,320
Speaker 3: talk the offensive line with all their blocking scheme changes

797
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 3: as well? When you introduce this new offensive scheme, I

798
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 3: just don't know if the air raid can really work

799
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 3: in the SEC like this, like Hall he wants to run.

800
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 3: If they're just the amount of athletes and now the

801
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 3: defenses that you're going against and they're used to seeing

802
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 3: spread attacks, and so I just don't know that that

803
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 3: scheme advantage that you had, I just don't I'm not

804
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 3: convinced that it can excel as it could maybe in

805
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 3: other conferences right now and everyone knows except for LSU

806
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 3: last year, we'll talk about how much of a mess

807
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 3: they were that you don't you don't sit here and

808
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 3: play man against the Mike Leech air raid. So it's

809
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 3: an interesting team considering it's year two of Leach. What

810
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,799
Speaker 3: are your thoughts on the Rebels?

811
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, speaking of LSU. So Leech comes out and beats

812
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:48,359
Speaker 2: the national champions by ten points because Boplini refuses to

813
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 2: run a defense that can defend the air raid. And

814
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 2: then after that, Mississippi State didn't cover five games in

815
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 2: a row because everybody figured out you could rush three

816
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 2: and drop eight. And that was, you know, the end

817
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 2: of Mike Lee cutting videos on a wagon saying there's

818
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 2: still a room to come aboard.

819
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 3: Whatever the hell that was.

820
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 7: What's your message to the team, don't do it anymore?

821
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 2: For me, the quarterback battle is what I've been most

822
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 2: interested in. I think the defense of the three three five.

823
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,800
Speaker 2: They returned their top seven tacklers after losing Errol Thompson.

824
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 2: You know, they were top thirty five in coverage and

825
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 2: in finishing drives, but there was no havoc last year.

826
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 2: They weren't getting the ball turned over through the air.

827
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 2: They weren't getting into the backfield of anybody. So that's

828
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 2: got to improve this year. But on offense, the quarterback

829
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 2: battle is what I've really been interested in.

830
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:32,399
Speaker 3: Now.

831
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 2: Jack Abraham is the transfer in from Southern miss and

832
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 2: that's the guy I want to bet on. Last year

833
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 2: he had six big time throws just one turnover worthy play.

834
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 2: He went seven to fifteen and passes past twenty yards,

835
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 2: but four of those were drops. I liked him at

836
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 2: Southern miss and was betting on Jack Abraham, then I

837
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 2: would bet on him here in this air raid offense.

838
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 2: But he hasn't played because of an injury or an ailment.

839
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,280
Speaker 2: They're being really nonspecific about what's going on in camp.

840
00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 2: Abraham didn't play in the scrimmage and he hasn't even

841
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,359
Speaker 2: practiced yet. So this is down to Will Rogers and

842
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 2: to South Alabama transferre Chanince Levertage. For those of you

843
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 2: that want to google Levertice and have your wives check

844
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 2: your phones, you know he transfers in from South Bama.

845
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 2: You know, right now, I think Rogers is in the

846
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 2: lead for that position. But I mean it's really a

847
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 2: no play on Mississippi State until I see j Abraham

848
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 2: getting the getting most of the snaps there. I think

849
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 2: you're exactly right. If Jimmy Lake is a DC for

850
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 2: Washington can annually shut down Washington State and the air

851
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 2: raid of Mike Leach. This is the sec. These defensive

852
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 2: coordinators are smart enough to game plan for one week

853
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 2: to shut you down and you know there's other things

854
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 2: with this offense. It just I don't think this is

855
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 2: going to go away. Like even if they improve their

856
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 2: success rate, Mississippi State finished one hundred and fifteenth and

857
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 2: finishing drives like this. Air rate is great for gaining yards,

858
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 2: but once you get down past the forty yard line

859
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:51,839
Speaker 2: or past the twenty, you just don't have a lot

860
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 2: of space to run.

861
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 3: The air raid.

862
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 2: So I don't know if I'm going to see any

863
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 2: improvement out of that number whatsoever. You know, it's a

864
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 2: win total of projected the six point four for me,

865
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 2: that is over the six. But with Jack Abraham not

866
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 2: playing the quarterback that I do want to bet on,

867
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 2: he may not be around for a couple of weeks.

868
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 2: So depending on what this injury is, we can't I

869
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 2: can't find any information on whatsoever. It's a no play

870
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,240
Speaker 2: for me in Mississippi State. And we'll see if SEC

871
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 2: defenses continue to adjust and if Mike Leach does anything

872
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 2: about it, like maybe run the ball. You run the

873
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 2: ball twenty six percent of the time, maybe run the

874
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 2: ball once or twice. I don't know, So we'll see

875
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 2: if the air raid continues to flounder in the SEC.

876
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I do like the defense as long

877
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 3: as Watson could come in and replace Thompson in the

878
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 3: middle at that linebacker spot. You're right, they could use

879
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 3: more more pressure, but they have just a really good

880
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 3: corner duo that I like. It maybe up there top

881
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,879
Speaker 3: three in the SEC. So I like the defense. It's

882
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 3: just where is the ceiling of this offense? And I'm

883
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 3: not sure it's as high as some people might think

884
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 3: it is, just because it's year or two of Mike Leach.

885
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,359
Speaker 3: If you look at the schedule, you know they get

886
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 3: Alabama an LSU at home. I mean an LSU you

887
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 3: know is going to be out for revenge. And then

888
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 3: you look at their away games fairly manage well. But

889
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 3: they're also going to textas A and M. But they

890
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 3: have Vandy on the road, they have Auburn on the road,

891
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:14,399
Speaker 3: Memphis on the road in Arkansas, so it's not an

892
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 3: easy schedule. Obviously they're in this division. I think six

893
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 3: is about right, And keep in mind they host Ole

894
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 3: Miss to close the year. Don't be surprised if their

895
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:27,399
Speaker 3: win total and ball eligibility hopes comes down to that game.

896
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 3: So I agree, no reason to invest in Misstate from

897
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 3: a wind total perspective.

898
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 2: Really interesting to see that Alabama is the game that

899
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 2: comes off the bye. If you haven't heard Mike Leach before,

900
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:38,839
Speaker 2: at least he used to say this at Washington State.

901
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 2: He hates byewings, hates the buye yep, because it gets

902
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:43,359
Speaker 2: the air rate out of sync. And now you're gonna

903
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 2: get Alabama off the bye. That's the team you don't

904
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,760
Speaker 2: want to face off of a bye. So interesting note there.

905
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 3: Yep. All right, let's move on to a team we

906
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 3: just mentioned an old Miss.

907
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:54,320
Speaker 1: The Old Miss Rebels.

908
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 3: They're win total by the way over seven and a

909
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 3: half minus one ten. The lane train Lane. Kiff in

910
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 3: year two did a phenomenal job of that offense. Again

911
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 3: comes in implements his scheme on offense in a COVID

912
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 3: shortened year, Matt corral Shine, he did have two games.

913
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 3: You just want to see less. You want to see

914
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 3: fewer games where everything goes wrong. I mean, fourteen interceptions

915
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 3: last year, eleven of them came in two games. But

916
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 3: the offense, I don't even know how much time we

917
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 3: should spend on this, this deadly no huddle attack that

918
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 3: Kiffin has just I mean, Kiffin is a brilliant play caller.

919
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,760
Speaker 3: This offense is gonna shine. You know you have Corral

920
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 3: Eliot running back three upper class and return a wide receiver.

921
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 3: Elijah Moore is gone, but you know Brayln Sanders steps in.

922
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 3: This offense is awesome. The question becomes, can the defense

923
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 3: get any stops any at all? And they don't have

924
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 3: to with the way that they can score, They don't

925
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 3: have to be a top twenty defense. Can they just

926
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 3: be an average defense? And they were just so bad

927
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 3: that they couldn't get any pressure, they were small up front,

928
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 3: couldn't defend the run. So they were ranked that I

929
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,359
Speaker 3: think one hundred and twenty six hundre if you look

930
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:06,839
Speaker 3: at a lot of their stats on hundred and twenty fifth,

931
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 3: hundred and twenty third. So how much can their de

932
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 3: improve to keep up with what should be one of

933
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 3: the best offenses in the country. Away games Alabama, Mississippi State, Tennessee, Auburn.

934
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 3: They started on a neutral against Louisville. What are your

935
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 3: thoughts on the lane train in year two in Oxford?

936
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, the defense to me is not going

937
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 2: to get any better from what I see from a

938
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 2: recruiting standpoint and from what I see from a transfer

939
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 2: portal standpoint that rank of one hundred and twenty fifth

940
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,320
Speaker 2: in defensive success rate, that isn't going to get any better.

941
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 2: And also the rank of one hundred and twentieth and

942
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 2: defensive finishing drives. I don't think that's going to get

943
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 2: any better. They did not do anything to improve the

944
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 2: front seven in the offseason. And when you look at

945
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 2: the defense, the leading tackler, Jacks Jones, he entered the

946
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 2: portal and landed at Kentucky, so they lost their top

947
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 2: tackler to a team inside this see. So you know,

948
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 2: when you have a defense that's one hundredth and outside,

949
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 2: you know, ring around one hundredth and coverage tackling havoc,

950
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 2: and you don't do anything to approve it in the offseason,

951
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:15,800
Speaker 2: then you're absolutely putting it on your offense to carry

952
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 2: all the water and get this team to the promised land.

953
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 2: Here and I think it is important to talk about

954
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 2: the offense because we all know they're great, right. We

955
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,800
Speaker 2: all understand that Matt Coral did some pretty exciting things.

956
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 2: He had a massive clunker of a game against Arkansas

957
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,399
Speaker 2: where he had no big time throws and I think

958
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 2: seven turnover worthy plays. Now, if you throw that game out,

959
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 2: if you just throw the Arkansas game out, because Arkansas

960
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,399
Speaker 2: flashed a three three five, something that nobody had done

961
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,439
Speaker 2: against against Lang Kiffin. All year old miss came into

962
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,399
Speaker 2: that game and they were like, oh shit, you know,

963
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 2: Arkansas's rushing three and dropping eight. No one's done this

964
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 2: to us yet, and we don't know how to handle it.

965
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 2: Matt Coral didn't even know what to do with a

966
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:59,320
Speaker 2: three three five. But if you throw out that, Coral

967
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 2: finished the season twenty four big time throws in just

968
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 2: nine turnover worthy plays. That's Heisman ratio. Those are Heisman

969
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 2: type numbers. So this is one of the most exciting

970
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 2: offenses in college football. Their top offense, their top twenty

971
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 2: in every category, seventy six percent return. You know, Coral's

972
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:21,919
Speaker 2: been considered a Heisman dark horse. You know he made

973
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 2: and with his legs on designed runs, he made twenty

974
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 2: seven miss tackles out of fifty one rushing attempts. And

975
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 2: I know that like a year ago, I feel like

976
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 2: we were all clamoring for John Rees plumb ling. But

977
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 2: these numbers, twenty seven missed tackles, I mean, you got

978
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:39,479
Speaker 2: it with Matt Coral. So the backfield's loaded, Jerry and Ealy,

979
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 2: Snoop Connor. You know, the entire offensive line is back.

980
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 2: There's there's plenty of talent a wide receiver, even though

981
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 2: that Elijah Moore is out, you know, I mean, this

982
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 2: all just comes down to the defense. This is another

983
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 2: season of boat racing. You're gonna boat race Alabama. You're

984
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 2: gonna boat try to boat race Texas, A and M.

985
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 2: Everything is going to be a boat race. That Liberty

986
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,040
Speaker 2: game I can't even wait to see. But listen, the

987
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,359
Speaker 2: Old Miss football is going to be musty TV. From

988
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 2: an offensive standpoint, Matt Corral has an outside shot to

989
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 2: win the Heisman Trophy, but I think that's an extreme

990
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:09,800
Speaker 2: dark horse case.

991
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 3: For me.

992
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 2: The better number is Old Miss fifteen to one to

993
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:16,720
Speaker 2: win the West. And why is that? Because they're actual

994
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:18,879
Speaker 2: true odds of winning the West are nine to one,

995
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 2: not fifteen to one. And you'd say, well, they got

996
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:23,760
Speaker 2: to beat Alabama. Of course, they got to beat Alabama,

997
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 2: but they got close.

998
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 3: Last year.

999
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:27,880
Speaker 2: They gave Alabama and Nick Saban fits. And Kiffin is

1000
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 2: always going to find out a way to frustrate Nick Saban,

1001
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 2: and he knows how to game plan against Pete gooldy.

1002
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 2: So really the.

1003
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:37,360
Speaker 3: Two bags and they got a buye. They have a

1004
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 3: buye before that game it is at Alabama, they have

1005
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:40,280
Speaker 3: a buyer before.

1006
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean kiffn can absolutely win that game. You

1007
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 2: look at Texas A and Texas AM comes after the

1008
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,720
Speaker 2: Liberty game. I'm just now realizing that I've been hyping

1009
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 2: up the fact that Liberty is going to come into

1010
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 2: that game into Oxford probably undefeated. But how much does

1011
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 2: Lane Kiffin care when he might be able to win

1012
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 2: the SEC West the next week against Texas A and M.

1013
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 2: So I think fifteen to one is a great bet

1014
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 2: on the West because the add the true odds and

1015
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,760
Speaker 2: that should be nine to one. You have an easy

1016
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 2: hedge spot right off the bat at Alabama. Money line

1017
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 2: shouldn't be too high to get out of that fifteen

1018
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 2: to one ticket. But that's a game they'd have to win.

1019
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:12,919
Speaker 2: But that's a good number, fifteen to one.

1020
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's all gonna come down to. I mean, they're

1021
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 3: relying on a lot of transfers that don't value freshmen this.

1022
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 3: I mean, maybe the defense can improve marginally, I mean,

1023
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:27,839
Speaker 3: it can't get much worse, but I just don't see it. So, yeah,

1024
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 3: they're going to be in in shootouts for days. The

1025
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 3: offense will be awesome to watch. But if the defense

1026
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 3: just improves a bit and you go from you know,

1027
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 3: somebody numbers one hundred twenty five, hundred and twenty six,

1028
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:42,320
Speaker 3: and obviously the schedule overall gets easier because you're playing

1029
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 3: some you know, non conference games against Austin p but

1030
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 3: just in conference play, if the defense can improve a

1031
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,839
Speaker 3: little bit, get a few key stops, force a few

1032
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 3: key turnovers, all of a sudden, the ceiling for this

1033
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 3: team is really high, and you're buying into the upside.

1034
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 3: So I don't hate that bet, all right. That covers

1035
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 3: six of the seven teams in the SEC West. That

1036
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:07,880
Speaker 3: leaves one team in LSU.

1037
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:09,800
Speaker 1: The LSU Tigers.

1038
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 3: One of the most intriguing teams from a preseason preview

1039
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,839
Speaker 3: perspective that is out there. So in order to help

1040
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 3: you and us preview LSU, we're bringing in longtime friend

1041
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 3: of this podcast and prior prodcast that we've done, Brody Miller.

1042
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 3: Well you don't first of all, we're coming any question,

1043
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 3: all right. We're now joined by good friend of the podcast,

1044
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 3: Brody Miller. You can find him on Twitter at Brody A.

1045
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:42,959
Speaker 3: Miller covers LSU for The Athletic We like to talk

1046
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 3: to him preseason, sometimes during the season, and hopefully for

1047
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 3: his sake and all of you LSU fans out there

1048
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 3: in the postseason. What's going on, Berdie Howard things. I'm

1049
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 3: doing all right. I'm always thrilled to beyond.

1050
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 7: But then I'm actually bumm because I've been waiting for

1051
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 7: your SEC westpod to come out, and then I realized

1052
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 7: I have to be on that. I'm a little bummed

1053
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 7: that I don't get a listen to it, but I'm excited.

1054
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 2: I think before we get into SEC West, we have

1055
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 2: to give you a little breathing room to talk about Indiana, right,

1056
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 2: because you're Indiana. Yes, let's talk about I mean, do

1057
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 2: you have a take We've we've cut the Big ten podcasts,

1058
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 2: we took the Indiana under we think there's gonna be regression.

1059
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:22,760
Speaker 2: Do you have anything for your old home team, Indiana Hoosiers.

1060
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:25,320
Speaker 7: I know I gave I gave you flak the second

1061
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 7: I gotten alert in the Action Network that you did that,

1062
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 7: but I'm also like, you're.

1063
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 3: Not wrong in a million years. I even said to you.

1064
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:34,319
Speaker 7: I think I said they could be exactly as good

1065
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 7: as last year and every single way, And you told

1066
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 7: me they go seven and five.

1067
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:39,359
Speaker 3: Like that makes sense?

1068
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:41,879
Speaker 7: Like I do not think the other teams are gonna

1069
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 7: be as bad as they were, and I don't think

1070
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 7: I was gonna catch every break like they did. Like

1071
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 7: I feel like they're in a really really good place.

1072
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 7: They're deep and experienced and all that, but they're not

1073
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 7: gonna go ten and two.

1074
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:54,439
Speaker 3: The good thing is for Indiana fans out there is yeah,

1075
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 3: it's a number thing, it's a regression, but there's still

1076
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 3: a lot to be excited about the program.

1077
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 7: And I covered Kevin Wilson taking them to a bowl

1078
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 7: game and when I was in college, it was a

1079
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 7: monumental moment. And no world, have I yet lost perspective

1080
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 7: that seven and five would not be fantastic because it's

1081
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 7: still it's absolutely sure.

1082
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:12,799
Speaker 2: We got to talk about some LSU. We have lots

1083
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 2: of things moving on here. We got coordinators, a Polini's

1084
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:18,760
Speaker 2: out that was a complete disaster, We've got scheme changes,

1085
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 2: we've got new offensive coordinators. Let me start off by

1086
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:25,280
Speaker 2: asking about Jake pets the new offensive coordinator. The stories

1087
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 2: that I could get was looking for scrimmage information, and

1088
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 2: what I found was Jake Pets's flipping tables all over

1089
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 2: the locker room. Tell me about the commentary that we

1090
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 2: want to replicate the Joe Brady passing game coordinator and

1091
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow twenty nineteen effect, and can Jake Pets kind

1092
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 2: of do that?

1093
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:48,319
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's bordering on cringeworthy, But at the same time,

1094
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 7: it's from the second they went into this offseason at

1095
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 7: Ojeon was relatively transparent, which, as you guys know, is

1096
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 7: rare in this field. That he was like, hey, we're

1097
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 7: trying to get back to twenty nineteen. They literally called

1098
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 7: Joe Brady and Tim like who could run this offense? Well,

1099
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 7: and he said, all right, Jake Pets to my quarterback coach.

1100
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:07,240
Speaker 7: And obviously DJ Mangus was on staff at twenty nineteen

1101
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:09,439
Speaker 7: and it's one of Brady's best friends, Like, go hire

1102
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:12,439
Speaker 7: those two guys, and that's what they did. And Yeah,

1103
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:14,800
Speaker 7: I think it's overly simplistic to say they're just getting

1104
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:15,760
Speaker 7: back to twenty nineteen.

1105
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 5: They should probably tone down that messaging.

1106
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 7: But I think the key is, and I think there's

1107
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 7: a theme in both hires we're going to talk about.

1108
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 3: Is there was a clear.

1109
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 7: Theme of get younger, get sharper, get guys who know,

1110
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,399
Speaker 7: want to connect with the roster better, all those things

1111
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 7: because quite frankly, a lot of coaches, by respect that

1112
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 7: staff last year was like sixty percent guys and white

1113
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 7: and in their sixties. You know, it just wasn't and

1114
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 7: there was some lack of a cultural strength in that

1115
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 7: locker room.

1116
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 2: I guess disconnect, Yeah, disconnect you're the writer.

1117
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I.

1118
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 7: Think you know, Pete's for all the question marks that

1119
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:51,919
Speaker 7: you're gonna have whenever you have a coordinator who has

1120
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 7: never called plays. I think he's a guy who at

1121
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 7: least put the miles in, you know, like Toronta Jones

1122
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:59,279
Speaker 7: has probably more question marks. Petez is the guy who's

1123
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 7: been on really good. He's been around, he's been really

1124
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 7: he's been on saving staffs and all that. Like, I

1125
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 7: have a decent amount of faith he can run Brady's

1126
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 7: offense well. He can add a sharpness that just wasn't

1127
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:12,799
Speaker 7: there without Brady last year under Ensminger, and I think

1128
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 7: he's just gonna lead to a I don't know, just

1129
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 7: a better quarterback room and a better energy because you

1130
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 7: use the mention of him flipping tables and things like that.

1131
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:23,839
Speaker 7: There are like a lot of those stories of him

1132
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:26,479
Speaker 7: coming in and just like calling Miles Brennan like every

1133
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 7: week to just like talk and connect and all those things,

1134
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 7: And those are corny, and I acknowledge they're corny. But

1135
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 7: considering so much of the problems of twenty twenty just

1136
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 7: had to do with those kinds of things, I don't

1137
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 7: think there's nothing. Well, you mentioned the quarterback room coming

1138
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 7: into the year. There, you know, you would assume offensive

1139
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 7: change and we're gonna have a quarterback competition.

1140
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,360
Speaker 3: Well, now that picture is a lot clear. You have

1141
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 3: an injury and a transfer. The depth might be in

1142
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 3: question now, But as far as Johnson now being the

1143
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 3: clear cut number one, who did you add just to

1144
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 3: pay winning the job? You know, I've actually read some

1145
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 3: difference opinion in that aspect. Do you think it actually

1146
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 3: ends up helping them? Now get the clarity beforehand? And

1147
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:13,879
Speaker 3: just what are your thoughts on the quarterback position headed

1148
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 3: into the season.

1149
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think you put that well, because I in

1150
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 7: no world am I going to claim this is a

1151
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 7: net positive.

1152
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 5: It's not.

1153
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 7: You just lost you know you're too deep now, But

1154
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 7: I have been under the impression since spring it was

1155
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 7: going to be Max Johnson the whole time, and it's

1156
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 7: not even I think in my co host and I

1157
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,799
Speaker 7: t Bob a Bear, we used always talk about I

1158
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 7: don't think who won the job was going to change

1159
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:37,800
Speaker 7: my projection of this team, you know, all things healthy

1160
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:39,359
Speaker 7: and all that. I think both those guys are good

1161
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:41,799
Speaker 7: enough to start for a good amount of SEC teams.

1162
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 7: They're both pretty good quarterbacks. But I think they love

1163
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 7: Johnson is the guy because they put so much focus

1164
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 7: on processing ability and being able to make the quick

1165
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:52,799
Speaker 7: read because that's what Burrow did so well. Bur didn't

1166
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:54,799
Speaker 7: have the arm that Brennan has. He he was just

1167
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 7: sharper than everybody and all those things. They love that

1168
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 7: about Johnson because they do all this like crazy testing,

1169
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 7: and he does test off the sharks in those categories.

1170
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 7: He's very mobile, which they really like. And they're not

1171
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 7: going to be running an option or anything. But that's

1172
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:10,800
Speaker 7: that's a plus. And this is me reading between the lines.

1173
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 7: But still you just hear things about how Johnson's a

1174
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 7: little closer with the receivers or like putting in those

1175
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 7: extra things. Even before this job was decided, I think

1176
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 7: the team kind of rallies behind.

1177
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Speaker 3: Him a little bit more.

1178
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 7: And you can't just gloss over the fact that they

1179
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 7: were three and five, went into Florida with like forty

1180
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 7: nine scholarship players available because of COVID, like they were depleted,

1181
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:33,879
Speaker 7: and that season's a disaster. And I know, but there's

1182
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 7: something too, like they had no reason winning any of

1183
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 7: those last two games. They went to Florida and Max

1184
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:41,760
Speaker 7: Johnson won that game, won the Old Miss game, looked great,

1185
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 7: and all of a sudden, I think he just won

1186
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 7: a lot of people over. So that's my long winded

1187
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:47,719
Speaker 7: way of saying, I think it was always going to

1188
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 7: be Johnson, and it's still a net negative, you know,

1189
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 7: but you'd, like you said, you do evolve camp. Now

1190
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 7: Jake Pets can now tailor his entire offense perfectly, knowing

1191
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:58,320
Speaker 7: who the quarterback is going to be, all those things.

1192
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:00,880
Speaker 7: Receivers and quarterbacks can get the rhythm, all of that.

1193
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:02,880
Speaker 7: So I think I think there's some positives in that

1194
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,399
Speaker 7: sense for those too. It's just obviously if he goes down,

1195
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:07,399
Speaker 7: you're in trouble. But the way I tend to feel

1196
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:10,719
Speaker 7: these things is if he goes down the seasons when

1197
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:12,719
Speaker 7: it starting quarterback goes down. Your season's a trouble for

1198
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 7: gard the season. That might be too simplistic. That's sometimes

1199
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 7: how I view them.

1200
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 2: So one question I got to get in though, is

1201
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:23,799
Speaker 2: that the scrimmage had some outstanding numbers from Newsmyer, and

1202
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:26,319
Speaker 2: I think that leads me into another question. So if

1203
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:28,799
Speaker 2: you want a two part this, we can. Stingley and

1204
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 2: Rix weren't on the field. Mike Jones Junior is in

1205
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 2: a serious jeopardy of not starting. So Newsmeyer puts up

1206
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:39,239
Speaker 2: these numbers and rave reports from everything that I from

1207
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 2: every single word I read out of your tweets and

1208
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:44,319
Speaker 2: your write ups over at the Athletic guys check out

1209
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 2: Broder you have to, But there was Newsmeyer going up

1210
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:50,720
Speaker 2: maybe second third strings. Was that how those numbers were posted?

1211
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:53,359
Speaker 2: And then kind of can you tell us what's going

1212
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 2: on with Stingley and Ricks?

1213
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:57,479
Speaker 7: Yeah, well that's why I yes, he's going against mainly

1214
00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 7: the second teamers. But I think the reason I'm not

1215
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 7: like back to the Max Johnson thing, the reason I'm

1216
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 7: not panic moting about Brennan is, let's remember what the

1217
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 7: situation was last year when Brennan went down and they

1218
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:12,320
Speaker 7: had two true freshmen who weren't even like that highly

1219
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 7: touted guys. You know, they weren't like top one hundred guys.

1220
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 7: That was a real panic situation. Neus Meyer is an

1221
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 7: actual dude, Like, he is a guy they.

1222
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 5: Think is going to be a star.

1223
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 7: He's a top one hundred prospect early in Rollie blew

1224
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 7: them away all spring, he threw he had some real

1225
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:31,439
Speaker 7: freshman mistakes in the spring game, but like, he's a guy.

1226
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 5: You know he's gonna be something.

1227
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 7: So I think, you know, nuss Meyer being the backup,

1228
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 7: but I know that's not your question, but just a

1229
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 7: side like I think that that, yes, if Johnson goes down,

1230
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:41,920
Speaker 7: it's a problem. But they actually liked the depth with

1231
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 7: Nussmeyer a little bit. Back to the defensive back thing. Yeah,

1232
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 7: steric singly that was expected to just be like a

1233
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 7: few days. Now it's like, well, it's a week and

1234
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 7: your alarm should go off whenever something happens like that. Absolutely,

1235
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 7: especially considering he was banged up pretty much all of

1236
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 7: last year. You know, like he was not healthy last season,

1237
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 7: so you have to be concerned to being like, oh,

1238
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 7: is this going to be a thing.

1239
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 3: But in terms of the actual prognosis, and all that,

1240
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 3: Like he should be back completely fine by probably mid

1241
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 3: next week or something like that. Like I don't I

1242
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 3: if he's not in the UCLA game, I will apologize

1243
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 3: to you guys school hardly, but he should be available.

1244
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 7: Rix is already back at practice. Dwight mcgluthern is the

1245
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 7: third outside corner. That's actually one you got to really follow.

1246
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 7: I think he's more later in camp. You got to

1247
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 7: wait it on, so you do have to worry about that.

1248
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 7: It's like that weird thing of you probably have the

1249
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 7: two best corners in the country when you're healthy, but

1250
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 7: you don't love that depth. Right now you're getting banged

1251
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 7: up and all that. So I'm not worried about corner.

1252
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 7: I think the injury stuff is them just being like,

1253
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 7: I'm not gonna push Derek Stingley to practice and all that.

1254
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 7: We saw that long twenty nineteen actually, but still it's

1255
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 7: something to keep an eye on. Just the idea that

1256
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 7: a guy's had durability concerns now.

1257
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, sticking on that defense last year and just

1258
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 3: as an aside, we'll probably get into this and with

1259
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:56,439
Speaker 3: some other teams too. I don't know how many times

1260
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 3: I've read this is the worst defense in school history

1261
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 3: from a point per game perspective for so many teams. Well, yeah,

1262
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 3: because you know you play an all SEC schedule, you

1263
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 3: don't you don't get to beat Southeast Louisiana, you know,

1264
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 3: one hundred to nothing. But without any question else, these

1265
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 3: defense was bad last year, right, But on the surface

1266
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 3: you have you have pieces to build around. You have

1267
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 3: arguably one of the best or if not the best

1268
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 3: corner duo in all of college football. You have some dudes,

1269
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 3: as you mentioned up front, you do lose cocks in

1270
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 3: linebacker the NFL. You bring in some highly regarded guys

1271
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 3: at the linebacker position. Safety, I think would be the

1272
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 3: biggest question. Does this really just come down to health

1273
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 3: in some aspects of the effort and then scheme, and

1274
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 3: then if those three things all work out, do you

1275
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:44,840
Speaker 3: believe that the talent will really shine on the LC

1276
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 3: defensive side. What are your thoughts there?

1277
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it's like you just can't leave out

1278
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 7: how just twenty twenty. I do not defend any of

1279
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 7: the stuff of th else like they deserve to be

1280
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:56,000
Speaker 7: blamed for it, and they should be.

1281
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 3: But there is a little bit of that perfect storm

1282
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 3: of just shit.

1283
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 7: You know where it's like, all right, guys, like you

1284
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 7: win a title, you lose everybody then you so you're

1285
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 7: replacing twenty starters essentially, and it's a pandemic and you

1286
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 7: just bomb those that bought bo Plane higher, which we'll

1287
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:15,160
Speaker 7: get to in a second. It's just and then you

1288
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 7: have the civil rights I mean, like the racial quality

1289
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 7: stuff going on that they mishandled absolutely, which made that

1290
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 7: locker room worse, and it was just this like perfect storm.

1291
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:24,760
Speaker 7: Then the opt outs of everything that could have gone

1292
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:27,240
Speaker 7: wrong did. So there is a part of me that

1293
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 7: when you watched that film last year, and I watched

1294
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 7: them sometimes a decent amount, and it it was inepty

1295
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 7: to It was just nobody knowing what they are doing.

1296
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 7: So it's it's like, I don't even look at that

1297
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 7: and evaluate the twenty twenty one defense that way unless

1298
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 7: you still believe those.

1299
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 5: Players are just dumb, and that's a different thing. But

1300
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:44,920
Speaker 5: I just don't think that.

1301
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 3: I don't. I think there were so many issues there, and.

1302
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:49,560
Speaker 7: Some of it is the pandemic, and yeah, not be

1303
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:51,920
Speaker 7: able to meet person in person the things you were

1304
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 7: able to do before, and the Polina higher, but the

1305
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 7: Pleeni higher, it's just the safeties were lost at all times,

1306
01:00:57,920 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 7: and that made the corners look bad. And guys are

1307
01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 7: twenty yards open and the linebackers Dimoon Clark a guy

1308
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:05,440
Speaker 7: who was supposed to be their next great linebacker. He

1309
01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:07,920
Speaker 7: was hyped as anybody. He was just on his heels

1310
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:09,360
Speaker 7: and all times confused.

1311
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 3: You know, so I do kind of unfit, like I

1312
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:14,560
Speaker 3: hate again.

1313
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:18,040
Speaker 7: My buzzword today is don't be overly simplistic, but it's true.

1314
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 7: It's like I do pardon me, does believe that if

1315
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:24,480
Speaker 7: you just fix the just ineptitude and get back to

1316
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 7: the just knowing what you're doing, simplifying, this is LSU.

1317
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:31,040
Speaker 7: Their defense is loaded with five stars and four stars

1318
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:32,560
Speaker 7: that I'm not saying they're going to be elite, but

1319
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 7: you should by default get back into like the top

1320
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 7: six of the SEC or something, and then you factor

1321
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:41,000
Speaker 7: in the extreme depth they have right now, and they're

1322
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 7: really talented in my opinion, Like linebacker, huge concern last year.

1323
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:46,040
Speaker 7: I don't know what's going to happen, but I do

1324
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:48,600
Speaker 7: think they're five deep there or safety, I'm with you,

1325
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:49,480
Speaker 7: is still a question mark.

1326
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:49,960
Speaker 5: The corner.

1327
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:53,520
Speaker 7: I still love those corners D line literally nine deep

1328
01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 7: like It's like they lost Glen Logan, a four year

1329
01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 7: starter at Detack, when I didn't even flinch.

1330
01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:00,640
Speaker 3: So overall is.

1331
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:03,080
Speaker 5: I think it should be the strength of the team,

1332
01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 5: that defense should be really solid. But you can't just

1333
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 5: wash away last year. But I think the Deronte Jones

1334
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 5: hires so much about it was simplify and just get.

1335
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:16,120
Speaker 7: A guy who knows how to teach. Get a guy

1336
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:17,920
Speaker 7: who knows how to get them on the same page.

1337
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:20,720
Speaker 7: Like teachers his big buzzword that he's apparently good at

1338
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 7: and the word you know, not gonna judge until I

1339
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:25,200
Speaker 7: seen in a game, but the word these past seven

1340
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:28,440
Speaker 7: months has been there is a clear difference in just

1341
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:31,080
Speaker 7: guys knowing what they're doing, flying all over the field,

1342
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:33,920
Speaker 7: just kind of bing back to being on the same page.

1343
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:36,160
Speaker 7: So I think you'll see a huge increase. Do I

1344
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:38,680
Speaker 7: know if Denanty Jones can scheme with Lane Kiffen's of

1345
01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:39,240
Speaker 7: the world.

1346
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:40,160
Speaker 5: I don't know yet, I really don't.

1347
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 7: But I think this defense WI was back to being

1348
01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:44,160
Speaker 7: really talented and just competent again.

1349
01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 2: So one thing that I was excited about from LSU

1350
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:50,720
Speaker 2: from a transfer portal perspective was bringing in Mike Jones junior.

1351
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:52,160
Speaker 2: And for those of you that don't know, him and

1352
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 2: Skalski were running the linebacker corps for Clemson for years

1353
01:02:56,040 --> 01:03:01,240
Speaker 2: and Jones was ranked fourth by PFF as the fourth

1354
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:04,480
Speaker 2: best linebacker in coverage rankings. So when he came to

1355
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:07,760
Speaker 2: LSU through the portal, I thought, holy cow, with these

1356
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:09,760
Speaker 2: two shutdown corners and you got a guy in the

1357
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 2: middle that's you know, fourth in the nation and coverage

1358
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:14,680
Speaker 2: from a linebacker standpoint, no one's gonna be able to

1359
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:17,360
Speaker 2: throw against LSU. This is something you're gonna need against

1360
01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:19,640
Speaker 2: Old Miss. This is something you're gonna need against Alabama.

1361
01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:22,240
Speaker 2: Now it comes out that Mike Jones Junior might not

1362
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:25,600
Speaker 2: even start and Edo saying, listen, you know it's a

1363
01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:27,800
Speaker 2: different scheme for him, and now he's got to take

1364
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 2: on offensive lineman. He's having struggles learning this scheme and

1365
01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:33,800
Speaker 2: fitting into the system.

1366
01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:35,040
Speaker 3: How does that?

1367
01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:39,320
Speaker 2: Is there a disconnect here? Like didn't Jones know what

1368
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:41,880
Speaker 2: he was getting into and didn't Edo know what he

1369
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:44,160
Speaker 2: was getting to when he brought Jones over? Like what

1370
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:46,640
Speaker 2: am I? Am I missing something here? Or what's going

1371
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:48,160
Speaker 2: on with Mike Jones Junior? Yeah?

1372
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:49,919
Speaker 7: That's a really I think it was like a multi

1373
01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:52,640
Speaker 7: layered thing happening there where Mike Jones.

1374
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:53,960
Speaker 3: Junior, and I think I have to start here.

1375
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:55,880
Speaker 7: Mike Sjones Junior is like know, and it's just like

1376
01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:59,800
Speaker 7: he was voted by Clemson, is like the player people

1377
01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 7: in interview the most, like just a really incredibly smart,

1378
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:05,840
Speaker 7: talkative guy. So in turn, you got a really rare

1379
01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:08,760
Speaker 7: interview on I believe that was Monday or Sunday where

1380
01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:09,920
Speaker 7: he was just transparent.

1381
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:10,960
Speaker 3: He's like, yeah, man, like.

1382
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:12,400
Speaker 7: I had a wake up call when I got in

1383
01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:13,960
Speaker 7: the box and I got beat a few times and

1384
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:15,720
Speaker 7: all that, and like players don't normally tell you that.

1385
01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:17,520
Speaker 7: So then I follow up with ed about it, and

1386
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:19,560
Speaker 7: it's like, yeah, you know he had some wake up calls.

1387
01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 7: He's going up against three and sixty pound guys like yeah,

1388
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:25,400
Speaker 7: like and it's that thing where it's like ed out

1389
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:27,960
Speaker 7: of context, makes it sound like Mike Jones is just

1390
01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 7: out of it. But there is something to the idea

1391
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:33,080
Speaker 7: that I do not think he is as of right

1392
01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:35,880
Speaker 7: now in that starting rotation. It's tricky because I still

1393
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:37,520
Speaker 7: he's gonna see the field. He's going to be a.

1394
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:38,320
Speaker 5: Third down linebacker.

1395
01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:40,160
Speaker 7: If I had to guess, I just don't know if

1396
01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:43,360
Speaker 7: he is the core guy there, and that that can

1397
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:45,920
Speaker 7: be spun different ways, because I do think their linebacker

1398
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:49,600
Speaker 7: room is, if not spectacular, and I don't think it's spectacular,

1399
01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:52,520
Speaker 7: it is deep. Because you do have, say Deimon Clark,

1400
01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:57,000
Speaker 7: who was a I will say a problem player last year.

1401
01:04:57,280 --> 01:04:59,720
Speaker 5: He's still absurdly talented. I mean, he is a physical

1402
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:02,680
Speaker 5: free if you believe that that can get fixed with

1403
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:04,920
Speaker 5: the coaching change and all that stuff I've heard, he's

1404
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:07,080
Speaker 5: still going to start this year. Then you have navanta

1405
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:10,560
Speaker 5: Q bug Strong, who number one Juco linebacker in the country.

1406
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:13,000
Speaker 5: I heard just off the charts things about him this spring.

1407
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:15,400
Speaker 7: He's kind of a thumper guy of a pretty athletic

1408
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:18,600
Speaker 7: was covering those jew Mississippi Juco guys in the slots sometimes,

1409
01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:21,280
Speaker 7: which as you know, is the real deal. So it's like,

1410
01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:23,320
Speaker 7: I think I get the sense those two are going

1411
01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:26,840
Speaker 7: to start, and that isn't necessarily Mike Jones isn't good enough,

1412
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:29,120
Speaker 7: but he does have a ways to go playing in

1413
01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:32,480
Speaker 7: the box, and I don't think I don't think he

1414
01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:34,600
Speaker 7: expected to come in here and not really be in

1415
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:36,720
Speaker 7: the rotation as he thought he would, So I think

1416
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:39,080
Speaker 7: that is a tricky thing. Then there's that other part

1417
01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:40,720
Speaker 7: of you that always has to say, why is the

1418
01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:42,880
Speaker 7: guy who is starting at Clempson leaving? You know, there

1419
01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:45,800
Speaker 7: is that too, So I think linebacker is going to

1420
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:47,720
Speaker 7: be fine. I don't look at the Mike Jones not

1421
01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:50,200
Speaker 7: cracking the rotation thing as a red flag. It's just

1422
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:53,160
Speaker 7: a really interesting storyline to me. But I do think

1423
01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:55,840
Speaker 7: they're deep there because even I even mentioned Michael Baskerville,

1424
01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:59,400
Speaker 7: who not again not a wild player, but if you're

1425
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:01,360
Speaker 7: a nerd in that team last year, which I know

1426
01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 7: you are, like once he got in the starting rotation,

1427
01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:07,200
Speaker 7: they did go from like awful to below average. When

1428
01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:09,520
Speaker 7: when Mike Baskuball came the starting linebacker, he kind of

1429
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:11,120
Speaker 7: fixed a lot of things. So he's another guy who

1430
01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:13,600
Speaker 7: can rotate in. I like the depth, long story short,

1431
01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:15,800
Speaker 7: I like the depth at linebacker. I'm just really curious

1432
01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:17,080
Speaker 7: to see what happens to Mike Jones.

1433
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:19,240
Speaker 2: We could never tell if it was the talent or

1434
01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:21,840
Speaker 2: the fact that Pelini had to what we call dumb

1435
01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:24,800
Speaker 2: down stripped down the defensive calls. I mean that it

1436
01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:27,360
Speaker 2: was a headache trying to manage that last year.

1437
01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:29,400
Speaker 7: I know, and I think We could just repeat me

1438
01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:31,440
Speaker 7: saying that over and over again, this podcast would be

1439
01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:32,720
Speaker 7: fine as me just being like.

1440
01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:34,760
Speaker 3: I can't tell if it's Polini or the talent.

1441
01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:37,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I guess, Berty, I guess we'll start off

1442
01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:39,640
Speaker 2: with with John Emery and Terry and Davis Price. You

1443
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:41,760
Speaker 2: know there to me, there was nothing in the advanced

1444
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:46,000
Speaker 2: stats from yards after contact, elusiveness mistackles. It really stood

1445
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:48,000
Speaker 2: out to me. Is there anything in the backfield? I

1446
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 2: should like, I'm not looking for the second coming of Clyde,

1447
01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:54,320
Speaker 2: you know, Clyde Edwards Laar coming back, but is there

1448
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:57,760
Speaker 2: anything in this backfield that can establish the run, drain

1449
01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:01,360
Speaker 2: some clock and keep players like Door Thompson Robinson off

1450
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:03,880
Speaker 2: the field? Are we seeing any of that in the backfield?

1451
01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 7: I think the talent in the backfield is there. It's

1452
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:10,800
Speaker 7: but it's this three year long storyline that's been going

1453
01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:13,360
Speaker 7: on in that ostron being kind of frustrated with that

1454
01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:15,840
Speaker 7: room where John Emery came in as the number two

1455
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:17,600
Speaker 7: running back in the country. He was supposed to be

1456
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:21,760
Speaker 7: the superstar, next Fournette type guy, and him and Davis

1457
01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:24,840
Speaker 7: Price both have been fine. They have been perfectly fine,

1458
01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:27,960
Speaker 7: but they have you know, just disciplined things, or putting

1459
01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:30,640
Speaker 7: the extra work or pass protection they've struggled with, or

1460
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:32,080
Speaker 7: receiving they.

1461
01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:34,440
Speaker 3: Just haven't become those guys. And Emory's shown flashes.

1462
01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:36,640
Speaker 7: I mean you look at that the Bama game last year,

1463
01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:38,760
Speaker 7: the Vanderbilt game where it's like that guy looks like

1464
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:42,479
Speaker 7: he's a superstar. But there's six out of ten games

1465
01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:44,800
Speaker 7: where he was under four yards per carry. So it's like,

1466
01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:47,600
Speaker 7: I do think he's just a lot of consistency you're

1467
01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:50,600
Speaker 7: looking for there. The fascinating thing, though, is I just

1468
01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:52,920
Speaker 7: keep having people in the program and be like, trust me,

1469
01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:55,080
Speaker 7: it's going to be John Emery and he's going to

1470
01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:57,960
Speaker 7: show you this year people who you know haven't defended

1471
01:07:58,000 --> 01:08:00,520
Speaker 7: John Emory before. I take that with the great solid

1472
01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:02,360
Speaker 7: I'm on year three of like being like, is this

1473
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:03,880
Speaker 7: going to be the year he does it? So I

1474
01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:06,640
Speaker 7: don't know yet, but there's been a lot of talk

1475
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:08,640
Speaker 7: that he's finally developed as a receiver. He had to

1476
01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:10,320
Speaker 7: get lasick about a year and a half ago, and

1477
01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:12,560
Speaker 7: I think that really fixed his eyesight. So I do

1478
01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:15,280
Speaker 7: think that that is going to improve. I think he

1479
01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:17,880
Speaker 7: maybe he's working harder all those things, but there's I

1480
01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:20,640
Speaker 7: had one coach telling me Davis Price is still going

1481
01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:22,880
Speaker 7: to be maybe the main guy early and yeah, he

1482
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:24,880
Speaker 7: averages like four and a half yards carrying a sleep.

1483
01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:27,439
Speaker 7: It seems like it's just not very explosive. But they

1484
01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:29,240
Speaker 7: said Emory's gonna get on the field more because he

1485
01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:31,040
Speaker 7: can do more. So I think that's really big is

1486
01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:32,880
Speaker 7: that he might actually take that leap as a receiver

1487
01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:35,960
Speaker 7: because his ability to make people miss is Edwards Hilaire

1488
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:38,559
Speaker 7: esk where it's just like he really can't make those plays.

1489
01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:41,120
Speaker 7: So you're waiting on that upside. And the other wrinkle

1490
01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:43,479
Speaker 7: in this is the story of camp has been these two,

1491
01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:46,719
Speaker 7: you know, top one fifty freshman running backs, Corey Kiner

1492
01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:49,920
Speaker 7: and Armani Goodwin. We're literally dominating Camp right now and

1493
01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:52,040
Speaker 7: just look like stars. And I don't even think they're

1494
01:08:52,040 --> 01:08:54,479
Speaker 7: gonna be in the top two yet, which again is

1495
01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:56,920
Speaker 7: saying they're still confident in those juniors. But it's just

1496
01:08:56,960 --> 01:08:59,000
Speaker 7: another thing like they're deep there. I think the real

1497
01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:01,120
Speaker 7: answer to all this is, and I know you think

1498
01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:03,720
Speaker 7: of this, but is what's the offensive line?

1499
01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:05,640
Speaker 3: Offensive line? Yeah, I just don't know.

1500
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:07,560
Speaker 7: I actually will flat out stay on this podcast. I

1501
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:09,880
Speaker 7: don't know because last year, yeah, you know, it's the

1502
01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:12,120
Speaker 7: whole thing where you're bringing everyone back and everyone's like, oh,

1503
01:09:12,160 --> 01:09:12,960
Speaker 7: they're gonna be great.

1504
01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:14,760
Speaker 3: Maybe it might, but.

1505
01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:18,639
Speaker 7: They were a really weird offensive line last year where

1506
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:20,679
Speaker 7: there's probably three games you could pick, but they looked great,

1507
01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:22,799
Speaker 7: like they won them the game. I think South Carolina

1508
01:09:22,840 --> 01:09:25,639
Speaker 7: stands out where it's like really good, four other games

1509
01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:28,439
Speaker 7: where they were a disaster. So it's which is it.

1510
01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:31,479
Speaker 7: I just don't know. So I I think this offensive

1511
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:33,320
Speaker 7: line isn't exactly the kind that's going to get some

1512
01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:36,519
Speaker 7: amazing push against the SEC West. So maybe that's what

1513
01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:39,639
Speaker 7: the answer really comes down to. And I just flat

1514
01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:40,320
Speaker 7: out don't know.

1515
01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:43,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, Max Johnson is a lefty, so your blind side

1516
01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:45,519
Speaker 2: tackle is now on the other side too, so which.

1517
01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:47,280
Speaker 7: At least is a positive. That's a fifth year starter

1518
01:09:47,360 --> 01:09:51,679
Speaker 7: on an Austin right on the other end. Yeah, yeah,

1519
01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:52,360
Speaker 7: that's a good point.

1520
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:53,479
Speaker 3: All right.

1521
01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:56,000
Speaker 8: So we've talked to it's I'm glad that we spent

1522
01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:57,519
Speaker 8: a lot of time on LSCU because it's well, I

1523
01:09:57,560 --> 01:09:59,760
Speaker 8: think that they're one of the most fascinating teams and

1524
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:03,760
Speaker 8: going into this year because you have national championship dominant team.

1525
01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:05,320
Speaker 3: Then last year and you're thrown all the errors we

1526
01:10:05,400 --> 01:10:08,480
Speaker 3: talked about. Now you have, you know, first time coordinators

1527
01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:11,760
Speaker 3: and just a lot of change. You had a quarterback competition,

1528
01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:13,559
Speaker 3: but now you know who the quarterback is, so just

1529
01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:16,920
Speaker 3: a lot of unknowns and variables. Win total currently sitting

1530
01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:21,360
Speaker 3: at over eight and minus one thirty ish. So to

1531
01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:27,280
Speaker 3: wrap this up quickly, give me your ceiling the floor

1532
01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:31,240
Speaker 3: what happens if everything goes wrong? And then a win

1533
01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:31,960
Speaker 3: total prediction?

1534
01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:35,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, you guys are so much smarter about

1535
01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:38,000
Speaker 7: this than me, so I'm not telling you anything. You

1536
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:40,639
Speaker 7: guys don't know, but they are. It's such a weird

1537
01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:43,960
Speaker 7: one for me because they like, they're so deep, so talented.

1538
01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:46,800
Speaker 7: All those things were on paper that should be just

1539
01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:51,000
Speaker 7: in a vacuum, just pure talent favored or a toss up.

1540
01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:52,200
Speaker 5: In eleven of twelve games.

1541
01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:54,720
Speaker 7: And maybe I'm completely wrong about that, but you know,

1542
01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:56,479
Speaker 7: A and M is probably a complete toss up because

1543
01:10:56,479 --> 01:10:59,560
Speaker 7: it's home. I don't know, but and if you're optimistic

1544
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:02,000
Speaker 7: on them, there's ceilings eleven and one like they have

1545
01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:04,720
Speaker 7: the literal talent to get there. I am high on

1546
01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:06,920
Speaker 7: Max Johnson. All those things that's really what it comes

1547
01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:10,559
Speaker 7: down to. And there's that factor where it's like you're

1548
01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:12,760
Speaker 7: debating between and I think I forget which one of

1549
01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:14,640
Speaker 7: you tweeted this, but like they're projected to be in

1550
01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:17,559
Speaker 7: one score games like often, so you're gonna lose a hand.

1551
01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:20,160
Speaker 7: You just assume you know they're gonna lose one or

1552
01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:23,480
Speaker 7: two of those. But it's just the schedule just matches

1553
01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:25,760
Speaker 7: up where I think Florida takes a step back and

1554
01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:28,200
Speaker 7: it's home. I think Auburn takes a step back and

1555
01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:31,840
Speaker 7: it's home. Ucla I got. I think they're really feisty.

1556
01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:34,640
Speaker 7: I like this UCLA team, but still just like like

1557
01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:37,040
Speaker 7: ls USE just more talented, and it's the first week

1558
01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:39,000
Speaker 7: of the year and lc was all that experience too,

1559
01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:41,479
Speaker 7: So it's like I just can't think of many games

1560
01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:45,240
Speaker 7: where I am sure LSU loses except Alabama. If anything,

1561
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:47,320
Speaker 7: I'm more scared of the Old Miss game on the

1562
01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:49,559
Speaker 7: road or like a Kentucky on the road. Those almost

1563
01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:52,040
Speaker 7: frightened me more so. My ceiling's eleven.

1564
01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:52,840
Speaker 5: Your floor is.

1565
01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:56,200
Speaker 7: This is where I'm probably ignorant, but my floor for

1566
01:11:56,280 --> 01:11:58,400
Speaker 7: me is eight just because the schedule, just because the

1567
01:11:58,439 --> 01:12:00,880
Speaker 7: experience and all that, which is why I always kind

1568
01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:02,800
Speaker 7: of leaned toward the over and why I was just

1569
01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:05,160
Speaker 7: kind of surprised by your pick on even though I

1570
01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:07,000
Speaker 7: respect the hell out of you guys, because I was

1571
01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:09,200
Speaker 7: just I just don't see that many things where I'm

1572
01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:11,920
Speaker 7: sure they're gonna lose, but we just all them go

1573
01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:12,479
Speaker 7: five and five?

1574
01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:15,400
Speaker 3: So what the hell am I talking about? So you're saying,

1575
01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:17,439
Speaker 3: I don't hate that any but you're so you're what

1576
01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:17,960
Speaker 3: are you gonna do?

1577
01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:18,120
Speaker 7: Are you?

1578
01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:20,000
Speaker 3: Are you gonna predict somewhere in the middle A You're

1579
01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:22,439
Speaker 3: gonna predict nine or ten as your official prediction. My

1580
01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:23,639
Speaker 3: official is ten.

1581
01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:26,320
Speaker 7: I mean, barring some of these durability things we're kind

1582
01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:28,160
Speaker 7: of watching right now, my pick is actually ten.

1583
01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:32,200
Speaker 3: And I'm a negative guy. Yeah, you're closer to the

1584
01:12:32,200 --> 01:12:34,920
Speaker 3: program than than us, and we respect your opinion. That's

1585
01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:37,080
Speaker 3: why we have you lot anyone that was debating LSU

1586
01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:40,439
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't like the under. I didn't bet

1587
01:12:40,479 --> 01:12:42,960
Speaker 3: the over. Uh's team for me to get a read

1588
01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:45,599
Speaker 3: on with all the moving pieces, it's a pass for me,

1589
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:48,920
Speaker 3: but I so, but it's one of those teams. Why

1590
01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:50,519
Speaker 3: I want to get your opinion because Colin like the

1591
01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:53,559
Speaker 3: under you can make a case for why it's all

1592
01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:55,400
Speaker 3: gonna go wrong. You can make a case for why

1593
01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:56,760
Speaker 3: it's all gonna go right. That's why I think that

1594
01:12:56,800 --> 01:12:59,360
Speaker 3: they're U fascinating too. But by the way, you might

1595
01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:05,360
Speaker 3: have to come up LSU at Kentucky. I'll be there, man.

1596
01:13:05,479 --> 01:13:07,400
Speaker 3: I know you're got some saying you might have to

1597
01:13:07,439 --> 01:13:09,360
Speaker 3: come up a day, day or tour. I don't know

1598
01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:11,000
Speaker 3: your schedule and stay with me and we can go out.

1599
01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:15,120
Speaker 7: But well, yeah, you say that, I will be there

1600
01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:16,680
Speaker 7: a day early to go hang out of Kienlan with

1601
01:13:16,720 --> 01:13:18,760
Speaker 7: all my cousins who are uk loms.

1602
01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:21,320
Speaker 3: Well, I'm a mile from Keenland. It's the first time

1603
01:13:21,479 --> 01:13:26,160
Speaker 3: I'll see it. Kick comes to seven. When Kentucky won

1604
01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:29,360
Speaker 3: forty three thirty seven in overtime, it was like one

1605
01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:32,960
Speaker 3: of the Kentucky football doesn't have many people talk about

1606
01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:36,599
Speaker 3: that win like it was two years ago. So I'm

1607
01:13:36,840 --> 01:13:38,600
Speaker 3: I'm actually excited for us. I was like, oh, I

1608
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:39,720
Speaker 3: was looking at the schedule. I was like, when's the

1609
01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:41,160
Speaker 3: last time I looked it up? It was two thousand

1610
01:13:41,200 --> 01:13:43,639
Speaker 3: and seven. Col do you got one last thing before

1611
01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:44,240
Speaker 3: we get out of here?

1612
01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:47,439
Speaker 2: No, I mean to Bertie's point. There are a lot

1613
01:13:47,479 --> 01:13:49,320
Speaker 2: of coin flip games, and when I looked at it,

1614
01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:51,599
Speaker 2: I believe sp plus made it like seven coin flips.

1615
01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:53,720
Speaker 2: I made it eight coin flips, and when I went

1616
01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:56,719
Speaker 2: through that number, it's hard to take a win total

1617
01:13:56,760 --> 01:13:58,960
Speaker 2: when there's that many number of coin flips. But you

1618
01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:01,920
Speaker 2: have to dissect each one of those teams. Over half

1619
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:06,240
Speaker 2: those teams have very strong established run games. Tank Bigsby

1620
01:14:06,360 --> 01:14:07,960
Speaker 2: is still going to get a lot of touches and

1621
01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:10,120
Speaker 2: carry a lot of guys across. The first down marker

1622
01:14:10,439 --> 01:14:14,040
Speaker 2: Dorian Thompson Robinson is the tip of the spear of

1623
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:16,519
Speaker 2: a Chip Kelly attack that really is based on the

1624
01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:19,040
Speaker 2: ground before it goes to the air. There's just other

1625
01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:21,799
Speaker 2: teams on this schedule. The Matt Coral on the ground,

1626
01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:24,639
Speaker 2: like some of the numbers that he posted in designed runs.

1627
01:14:24,680 --> 01:14:26,400
Speaker 2: I'm not even talking about scrambling. You look at his

1628
01:14:26,439 --> 01:14:29,000
Speaker 2: designed runs. So you know a big part of the

1629
01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:31,240
Speaker 2: handicap with LSU is are you going to be able

1630
01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:32,840
Speaker 2: to stop the run? I have no worry about them

1631
01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:35,640
Speaker 2: stopping the past at all, So you know that's the

1632
01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:36,920
Speaker 2: handicap and we'll see how they do.

1633
01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:40,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think for me. It's by the D line,

1634
01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:41,800
Speaker 3: you know. I think it just comes down to that.

1635
01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:44,120
Speaker 5: But it's a completely valid question.

1636
01:14:45,320 --> 01:14:48,200
Speaker 3: All right, Well, before we get before we get you

1637
01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:50,400
Speaker 3: out of here, and we let we don't want to

1638
01:14:50,439 --> 01:14:53,160
Speaker 3: let Colin keep talking to get on our LSU fans badside,

1639
01:14:53,160 --> 01:14:55,599
Speaker 3: because we've got such a good interview about ls too.

1640
01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:57,719
Speaker 3: But if people we were talking about going to Elexa,

1641
01:14:57,720 --> 01:14:59,800
Speaker 3: if people go down to an LSU game, which I

1642
01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:01,439
Speaker 3: say you have to do once and you gotta go

1643
01:15:01,479 --> 01:15:05,320
Speaker 3: to a Saturday night game, and I'll see, what's one

1644
01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:09,400
Speaker 3: place underrated overrated the places to go if you're going

1645
01:15:09,479 --> 01:15:12,320
Speaker 3: for one time somewhere to eat. What's one place that

1646
01:15:12,439 --> 01:15:14,800
Speaker 3: someone should keep in mind if they're making a trip

1647
01:15:14,840 --> 01:15:15,280
Speaker 3: for a game.

1648
01:15:15,479 --> 01:15:17,120
Speaker 5: Oh man, that's such a good question.

1649
01:15:18,160 --> 01:15:20,960
Speaker 7: So I have a I mean, there's your classics, right

1650
01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:25,560
Speaker 7: like you're trying to think, you like, go to Gino's

1651
01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:28,040
Speaker 7: for like an amazing meal, or you go to like

1652
01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:30,680
Speaker 7: Mike Anderson's right down the streets, great seafood, all that

1653
01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:31,280
Speaker 7: kind of stuff.

1654
01:15:31,280 --> 01:15:32,200
Speaker 5: There's plenty of those.

1655
01:15:33,160 --> 01:15:35,160
Speaker 7: There's one that's like a little off the beaten path,

1656
01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:37,280
Speaker 7: a little bit like forty Out, but it's called Middendorfs

1657
01:15:37,280 --> 01:15:39,439
Speaker 7: and it's like the best catfish you'll ever have. But

1658
01:15:40,120 --> 01:15:42,200
Speaker 7: if you're looking for just like a different BRQ is

1659
01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:44,960
Speaker 7: my favorite restaurant, Baton Rouge. It's like a it's almost

1660
01:15:45,040 --> 01:15:48,000
Speaker 7: like high scale comfort barbecue type food.

1661
01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:49,400
Speaker 5: And then that's my pick for sure.

1662
01:15:49,439 --> 01:15:51,840
Speaker 7: But also if you need a cocktail, the river Room

1663
01:15:51,920 --> 01:15:55,240
Speaker 7: downtown is where it's my favorite cocktail spot and also

1664
01:15:55,240 --> 01:15:59,000
Speaker 7: where there's been like a Louisiana legislator blacher brawl in

1665
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:01,000
Speaker 7: the middle of the night, so to really get the

1666
01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:04,040
Speaker 7: Louisiana experience, I think river rooms a great pick.

1667
01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:05,400
Speaker 3: Hey, I've been to Baton.

1668
01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:07,360
Speaker 2: Rouge as a razorback fan and full of razorback gear.

1669
01:16:07,400 --> 01:16:08,960
Speaker 2: I had a battery thrown at me and I haven't

1670
01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:13,240
Speaker 2: been back since. So this is Jerry DeNardo days. It

1671
01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:15,160
Speaker 2: was a little bit as wild on thanksgetting.

1672
01:16:16,080 --> 01:16:17,320
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, there was a lot.

1673
01:16:17,240 --> 01:16:18,120
Speaker 2: Of tension back then.

1674
01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:20,400
Speaker 7: So these days they're in their golden era. Man three

1675
01:16:20,400 --> 01:16:22,800
Speaker 7: titless twenty years. Then, don't let you out.

1676
01:16:22,880 --> 01:16:23,880
Speaker 2: They're happy whatever.

1677
01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:26,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, good stuff as always, Brodie. I will

1678
01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:28,200
Speaker 3: see when you get to Lex and we they have

1679
01:16:28,280 --> 01:16:30,400
Speaker 3: you on before then plug anything you want to plug

1680
01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:32,200
Speaker 3: before we get you out of here. Absolutely.

1681
01:16:32,200 --> 01:16:34,200
Speaker 7: You guys can follow me at Brody and Miller on Twitter,

1682
01:16:34,240 --> 01:16:36,840
Speaker 7: and I had a few stories out this week, one

1683
01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:39,760
Speaker 7: on Kayshawan Boody, the you know, the next star wide

1684
01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:41,880
Speaker 7: receiver at LSU and why he's kind of a different guy,

1685
01:16:41,880 --> 01:16:43,280
Speaker 7: so hopefully people can check that out.

1686
01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:44,519
Speaker 5: But thanks for having me, guys.

1687
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:46,680
Speaker 7: Always always my favorite show to come on by far,

1688
01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:48,400
Speaker 7: so I appreciate it absolutely.

1689
01:16:48,400 --> 01:16:49,320
Speaker 3: We'll talk to you soon.

1690
01:16:49,439 --> 01:16:51,920
Speaker 2: Thanks again, and everybody go read his Instniger's stuff. It's

1691
01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:54,479
Speaker 2: some's some fascinating off field stuff that is really a

1692
01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:56,519
Speaker 2: quality read. So I really appreciate you coming on.

1693
01:16:56,560 --> 01:16:59,599
Speaker 3: Berdie. Thanks guys, all right, thanks again to Brody, and

1694
01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:04,200
Speaker 3: hopefully one time in your lives you get to plan

1695
01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:09,439
Speaker 3: a trip to LSU. Kyle, you've made one before, right Well.

1696
01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:12,320
Speaker 2: Arkansas used to play LSU on Thanksgiving weekend and it

1697
01:17:12,360 --> 01:17:14,360
Speaker 2: was always a day game. So I went down there

1698
01:17:14,360 --> 01:17:17,200
Speaker 2: in full Arkansas gear and cheered. And I have to

1699
01:17:17,200 --> 01:17:19,240
Speaker 2: say there's a big difference between the LSU fan base

1700
01:17:19,280 --> 01:17:21,360
Speaker 2: and the Texas fan base because in that same year,

1701
01:17:21,439 --> 01:17:23,400
Speaker 2: in two thousand and three, I went to Texas, I

1702
01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:26,400
Speaker 2: went to Austin and Central Cobs and Matt Jones just

1703
01:17:26,520 --> 01:17:29,800
Speaker 2: blew Texas out of the water, and Texas fans shook

1704
01:17:29,840 --> 01:17:31,880
Speaker 2: my hand. We had beers, We had a good time.

1705
01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:35,800
Speaker 2: Everybody on Sixth Street was welcoming LSU. I feared for

1706
01:17:35,920 --> 01:17:39,080
Speaker 2: my life. There were some batteries being thrown at us.

1707
01:17:39,479 --> 01:17:42,759
Speaker 2: There was some threats being made, like it was hostile environment.

1708
01:17:42,920 --> 01:17:45,040
Speaker 2: So not sure I'm gonna be making my way back

1709
01:17:45,040 --> 01:17:47,000
Speaker 2: down to LSU. And if I do make it down there,

1710
01:17:47,080 --> 01:17:50,080
Speaker 2: it definitely won't be in any Arkansas head to toe gear.

1711
01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:54,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's I think it's Saturday Night Death Valley if

1712
01:17:54,240 --> 01:17:57,000
Speaker 3: you have a chance to do it once. I especially

1713
01:17:57,000 --> 01:17:59,040
Speaker 3: with Fallas, who was like in contention. Even if they're

1714
01:17:59,080 --> 01:18:00,839
Speaker 3: not that, it's just one of the most electric.

1715
01:18:01,680 --> 01:18:05,360
Speaker 2: Fellow Action Network team member Michael Leeboff, who does great

1716
01:18:05,360 --> 01:18:07,960
Speaker 2: stuff with our NHL stuff. He went to the LSU game,

1717
01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:11,080
Speaker 2: but he wore full Islanders gear. I can't even imagine

1718
01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:13,599
Speaker 2: what those fans thought about him in full Islanders uniform.

1719
01:18:13,680 --> 01:18:16,600
Speaker 3: So he probably left him alone thought he was a lunatic.

1720
01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:19,000
Speaker 3: There's no question. A moment before we get out of here,

1721
01:18:19,080 --> 01:18:22,920
Speaker 3: we do have one last order of business, and that

1722
01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:27,400
Speaker 3: is three and out.

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01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:31,120
Speaker 1: Let's make it a quick three and out.

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01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:36,880
Speaker 3: First down favorite sec west wind total. I'll start here.

1725
01:18:37,560 --> 01:18:40,360
Speaker 3: I'm going to Alabama under eleven and a half. Mainly,

1726
01:18:40,720 --> 01:18:42,840
Speaker 3: it's a numbers game for me. I make it closer

1727
01:18:42,840 --> 01:18:44,080
Speaker 3: to ten and AULF so you're going to a full

1728
01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:47,320
Speaker 3: win value, I mean a little less when you include

1729
01:18:47,320 --> 01:18:49,000
Speaker 3: the juice. I played it under eleven and a half

1730
01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:52,479
Speaker 3: minus one fifteen. Talked about all the changes on offense,

1731
01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:55,960
Speaker 3: offensive line, new quarterback. You lose so much talent of

1732
01:18:55,960 --> 01:18:59,320
Speaker 3: receiver in the past two years, new assists, it's new

1733
01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:03,360
Speaker 3: offensive co ordinator. Three road games where I could potentially

1734
01:19:03,400 --> 01:19:05,280
Speaker 3: see them dropping one. I think they end up dropping

1735
01:19:05,280 --> 01:19:07,840
Speaker 3: at text In. But if they lost at Florida, I

1736
01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:09,479
Speaker 3: think Florida's going to take a step back. We'll talk

1737
01:19:09,479 --> 01:19:11,479
Speaker 3: about that in the SCS wouldn't shock me. Losing the

1738
01:19:11,479 --> 01:19:12,960
Speaker 3: Swamp they lose the last game of the year at

1739
01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:15,400
Speaker 3: Auburn wouldn't shock me. But again, this is just a

1740
01:19:15,479 --> 01:19:18,000
Speaker 3: numbers play. I think Alabama ends up dropping one of

1741
01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:20,519
Speaker 3: those road games. I look, Ole miss you have all

1742
01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:23,240
Speaker 3: missed out there, Miami. There's some potential land lines on

1743
01:19:23,240 --> 01:19:25,799
Speaker 3: the schedule. With all the changes, I think the defending

1744
01:19:25,880 --> 01:19:28,599
Speaker 3: national champs drop at least one. Where are you going

1745
01:19:28,640 --> 01:19:29,759
Speaker 3: for your favorite win total?

1746
01:19:30,080 --> 01:19:32,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna go LSU under eight. I think there's

1747
01:19:32,479 --> 01:19:34,960
Speaker 2: just too much going on here that is not good

1748
01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:39,160
Speaker 2: news to me. But besides the new coordinators, besides you know,

1749
01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:41,640
Speaker 2: Miles Brennan going down. We think Max Johnson is going

1750
01:19:41,680 --> 01:19:44,240
Speaker 2: to be okay. There's still some question marks about running

1751
01:19:44,280 --> 01:19:46,639
Speaker 2: the ball, There's question marks about the offensive line. Derek

1752
01:19:46,680 --> 01:19:51,360
Speaker 2: Stingley still isn't practicing. I appreciate everybody hopping, you know,

1753
01:19:51,520 --> 01:19:54,120
Speaker 2: in my DMS and asking me if Stingley is a

1754
01:19:54,200 --> 01:19:56,880
Speaker 2: Heisman dark horse contender, but he's not even on the field.

1755
01:19:56,920 --> 01:20:00,519
Speaker 2: And you know, there's I thought my joll Junior was

1756
01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:02,360
Speaker 2: going to be a great fit for the defense. Turns

1757
01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:05,560
Speaker 2: out he's not. We have offensive coordinators flipping tables to

1758
01:20:05,600 --> 01:20:07,800
Speaker 2: get people's attention, and then they can't stop talking about

1759
01:20:07,840 --> 01:20:10,360
Speaker 2: Burrow and Joe Brady and about how they want the

1760
01:20:10,439 --> 01:20:13,280
Speaker 2: offense to be more like what it was in twenty nineteen.

1761
01:20:13,400 --> 01:20:15,840
Speaker 2: But you don't have the hands in the backfield to

1762
01:20:15,920 --> 01:20:18,080
Speaker 2: match Edwards lar what he was able to do. And

1763
01:20:18,120 --> 01:20:20,519
Speaker 2: I mean that was Joe Burrow's get out of jail

1764
01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:23,439
Speaker 2: free card in the backfield, and I think we have

1765
01:20:23,520 --> 01:20:27,000
Speaker 2: to mention that Joe Burrow like all time accuracy, Like, no,

1766
01:20:27,080 --> 01:20:30,240
Speaker 2: that's not going to be repeated. Max Johnson can, I

1767
01:20:30,240 --> 01:20:33,000
Speaker 2: mean have a great season and it's impossible to touch

1768
01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:34,640
Speaker 2: what Joe Burrow did. So there's a lot of that

1769
01:20:34,760 --> 01:20:37,920
Speaker 2: narrative going around. Injuries going on the defensive line. Although

1770
01:20:37,960 --> 01:20:40,080
Speaker 2: you know Brody said that's that he thinks they're nine

1771
01:20:40,120 --> 01:20:42,880
Speaker 2: deep and they're fine. I think there's some issues with

1772
01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:45,439
Speaker 2: running the ball. I think there's issues stopping the run.

1773
01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:48,360
Speaker 2: And for me, there's just too many coin flips on

1774
01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:52,559
Speaker 2: this schedule that have teams that are very efficient in

1775
01:20:52,640 --> 01:20:55,599
Speaker 2: running the ball. Tank Bigsby for Auburn can run the ball,

1776
01:20:55,680 --> 01:20:58,559
Speaker 2: Drian Thompson Robbins from UCLA can run the ball. Texas

1777
01:20:58,600 --> 01:21:00,960
Speaker 2: A and m can run it down your throat all day.

1778
01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:04,000
Speaker 2: There's just too many coin flip games where there's advantages

1779
01:21:04,040 --> 01:21:04,639
Speaker 2: over LSU.

1780
01:21:04,840 --> 01:21:09,400
Speaker 3: I'll take under eight. Brody's not gonna be happy with

1781
01:21:09,439 --> 01:21:14,040
Speaker 3: that one. But let's move on to second down, favorite

1782
01:21:14,240 --> 01:21:18,160
Speaker 3: SEC West related future Conna. Let you start this one

1783
01:21:18,160 --> 01:21:18,760
Speaker 3: where you want to go.

1784
01:21:18,920 --> 01:21:20,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not gonna go very long I just say

1785
01:21:20,280 --> 01:21:22,360
Speaker 2: ole Miss fifteen to one. The numbers should be nine

1786
01:21:22,400 --> 01:21:25,120
Speaker 2: to one, and I think really you have to recognize

1787
01:21:25,120 --> 01:21:28,080
Speaker 2: an edge in numbers, whether it's money lines or totals,

1788
01:21:28,200 --> 01:21:31,080
Speaker 2: or you know, even during end season when you see

1789
01:21:31,080 --> 01:21:33,200
Speaker 2: a money line that's just outrageously high, and this is

1790
01:21:33,240 --> 01:21:34,840
Speaker 2: just one of those things. It should be nine to

1791
01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:37,120
Speaker 2: one on ole Miss. And there's really only two games

1792
01:21:37,120 --> 01:21:38,840
Speaker 2: that they need to concentrate on. The first one be

1793
01:21:38,880 --> 01:21:42,880
Speaker 2: in Alabama come off of a bye. Lane Kiffin held

1794
01:21:43,000 --> 01:21:45,920
Speaker 2: serve Now stucky and I watched tennis. He watched more

1795
01:21:45,920 --> 01:21:48,519
Speaker 2: tennis than I do. But there's this thing in men's

1796
01:21:48,520 --> 01:21:52,400
Speaker 2: tennis called serve bots where it's just whoever's serving just

1797
01:21:52,479 --> 01:21:56,280
Speaker 2: you know, point point, point point. Lane Kiffin was able

1798
01:21:56,320 --> 01:21:58,280
Speaker 2: to do that with Alabama last year, and that was

1799
01:21:58,320 --> 01:22:01,680
Speaker 2: the best offense we've seen maybe college football history. So

1800
01:22:01,760 --> 01:22:04,559
Speaker 2: now that offense is gonna go against an Alabama offense

1801
01:22:04,600 --> 01:22:06,439
Speaker 2: that isn't gonna be as good as last year. So

1802
01:22:07,160 --> 01:22:09,360
Speaker 2: if lamee Keivin can continue to boat race teams and

1803
01:22:09,400 --> 01:22:11,560
Speaker 2: nobody has an offense like his, there's a lot of

1804
01:22:11,640 --> 01:22:14,360
Speaker 2: value in that that Old Miss fifteen to one should

1805
01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:15,599
Speaker 2: be nine to one. I buy it all the way

1806
01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:16,080
Speaker 2: down to there.

1807
01:22:18,360 --> 01:22:21,479
Speaker 3: I'm gonna build off of that. You know, well, I

1808
01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:24,880
Speaker 3: would say first, I don't hate it, but I'm thinking

1809
01:22:24,920 --> 01:22:26,840
Speaker 3: if ole Miss does win the division, go to the

1810
01:22:26,920 --> 01:22:29,960
Speaker 3: SEC Championship game, and if they're gonna beat Alabama with

1811
01:22:30,040 --> 01:22:32,439
Speaker 3: that defense, they're gonna have to put up silly numbers,

1812
01:22:32,479 --> 01:22:35,240
Speaker 3: which means Matt Corrol's gonna have to put up silly numbers,

1813
01:22:35,240 --> 01:22:37,519
Speaker 3: and then they go to the SEC Championship game, makes

1814
01:22:37,680 --> 01:22:39,760
Speaker 3: his Heisman case. If you assume they can do that

1815
01:22:39,960 --> 01:22:42,280
Speaker 3: more intriguing. I'm not gonna go there, just throw that

1816
01:22:42,320 --> 01:22:43,640
Speaker 3: out there. I'm gonna go to text A and M

1817
01:22:43,680 --> 01:22:46,240
Speaker 3: six to one to win the division. Now, that's just

1818
01:22:46,360 --> 01:22:49,679
Speaker 3: based on them beating their chances of beating Alabama at home.

1819
01:22:49,720 --> 01:22:51,439
Speaker 3: If they do that, I think they're gonna have a

1820
01:22:51,479 --> 01:22:53,720
Speaker 3: really good shot to win this division because that will

1821
01:22:53,720 --> 01:22:56,320
Speaker 3: mean the quarterback position has worked out if they can

1822
01:22:56,360 --> 01:22:58,599
Speaker 3: win that game. And I'm buying the upside on text

1823
01:22:58,640 --> 01:23:00,800
Speaker 3: stand because if the quarterback position on the offensive line

1824
01:23:00,840 --> 01:23:03,320
Speaker 3: don't come together, you know, not only are they gonna

1825
01:23:03,400 --> 01:23:06,080
Speaker 3: not beat Alabama, but there's a good chance they don't

1826
01:23:06,080 --> 01:23:08,080
Speaker 3: go over nine and a half wins. But I just

1827
01:23:08,120 --> 01:23:10,760
Speaker 3: want no part of buying buying this team from a

1828
01:23:10,760 --> 01:23:13,879
Speaker 3: win total perspective, I'd rather just either buy the upside

1829
01:23:14,040 --> 01:23:17,200
Speaker 3: or leave them alone. If the quarterback and offensive line

1830
01:23:17,320 --> 01:23:19,759
Speaker 3: just comes together, they have the defense, the skill position

1831
01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:25,200
Speaker 3: talent is super impressive. Jimbo Fisher's fourth year the town

1832
01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:28,160
Speaker 3: on this roster. If one of those quarterbacks can work out,

1833
01:23:29,120 --> 01:23:32,160
Speaker 3: I think is worthy of a shot. Considering they get

1834
01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:34,360
Speaker 3: an Alabama team that I might that I think is

1835
01:23:34,720 --> 01:23:37,120
Speaker 3: a bit vulnerable. So six to one Texas A and

1836
01:23:37,280 --> 01:23:40,280
Speaker 3: M to win the division and get to the SEC Championship.

1837
01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:43,160
Speaker 3: I agree with you. There's opportunities here to take on

1838
01:23:43,240 --> 01:23:46,680
Speaker 3: Alabama within the division. Colin ole Mess, I'm gonna go Texas.

1839
01:23:46,439 --> 01:23:49,080
Speaker 2: A and M. It's a really good spot though for

1840
01:23:49,120 --> 01:23:50,479
Speaker 2: Texas A and M. If you look at Texas A

1841
01:23:50,520 --> 01:23:52,679
Speaker 2: and M and Old Miss heads up, that's gonna catch

1842
01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:55,920
Speaker 2: Ole Miss straight off that Liberty game. And Texas A

1843
01:23:55,960 --> 01:23:59,000
Speaker 2: and M projected minus four at Ole Miss. So I

1844
01:23:59,040 --> 01:24:01,160
Speaker 2: mean that's an it's a really good spot and it's

1845
01:24:01,160 --> 01:24:01,719
Speaker 2: a good number.

1846
01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:03,600
Speaker 3: All right. Third down, we're gonna do something special. We

1847
01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:06,080
Speaker 3: already talked about pretty much our predictions for the Division

1848
01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:09,760
Speaker 3: album is clearly the favorite. Ole miss and text A

1849
01:24:09,760 --> 01:24:12,360
Speaker 3: and m worth taking shots on whatever tickles your fancy.

1850
01:24:12,360 --> 01:24:15,680
Speaker 3: But here's a special sec West third down and we're

1851
01:24:15,680 --> 01:24:17,720
Speaker 3: gonna come back to this. Our producer Mat Mitchell will

1852
01:24:17,720 --> 01:24:21,000
Speaker 3: play this clip if it doesn't come true, Colin, I

1853
01:24:21,040 --> 01:24:23,800
Speaker 3: need you to promise one game that you will not

1854
01:24:24,280 --> 01:24:27,000
Speaker 3: that you do not and will not play Arkansas, and

1855
01:24:27,040 --> 01:24:29,160
Speaker 3: we're going to see if we can. You can stick

1856
01:24:29,160 --> 01:24:30,720
Speaker 3: to your word and we don't see it come through

1857
01:24:30,760 --> 01:24:32,200
Speaker 3: on the app at any point in the season. Take

1858
01:24:32,200 --> 01:24:34,240
Speaker 3: a look at their schedule. What's a game where you like,

1859
01:24:34,280 --> 01:24:36,680
Speaker 3: I am not betting them. I will not and I

1860
01:24:36,760 --> 01:24:37,479
Speaker 3: do not want to.

1861
01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:40,920
Speaker 2: I will play the Arkansas Pine Bluff game, all right.

1862
01:24:40,960 --> 01:24:43,720
Speaker 3: Colin, will not bet Arkansas Arkansas Pine Bluff. You'll have

1863
01:24:43,760 --> 01:24:46,640
Speaker 3: to stay tuned for our FC yes or no? All

1864
01:24:46,720 --> 01:24:48,439
Speaker 3: right now, I can't wait for that week that Arkansas.

1865
01:24:48,479 --> 01:24:51,000
Speaker 2: Are you going to go to that game? No? Actually,

1866
01:24:51,280 --> 01:24:52,960
Speaker 2: that game's down a little rock so a little bit

1867
01:24:53,000 --> 01:24:56,880
Speaker 2: of a drive here from Tulsa. And turns out my

1868
01:24:57,720 --> 01:25:00,920
Speaker 2: closest friend is in the one of the biggest bands

1869
01:25:00,920 --> 01:25:03,160
Speaker 2: in fable, Arkansas, and I'm gonna go see him play

1870
01:25:03,200 --> 01:25:06,120
Speaker 2: that night and be watching Arkansas playing buff on my phone.

1871
01:25:06,400 --> 01:25:10,000
Speaker 3: Well that's a good week to take off from watching

1872
01:25:10,200 --> 01:25:12,920
Speaker 3: every play of an Arkansas game. All right, thanks as

1873
01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:17,200
Speaker 3: always to Colin for joining me. Thanks again to Brody Miller.

1874
01:25:17,240 --> 01:25:19,040
Speaker 3: He's always great to have on. Make sure you check

1875
01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:21,640
Speaker 3: out his stuff on Twitter at Brodie A. Miller and

1876
01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:24,960
Speaker 3: at the Athletic. Thank you all for listening. Make sure

1877
01:25:25,000 --> 01:25:28,559
Speaker 3: you subscribe Big Bets on Campus podcast. Wherever you listen

1878
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1879
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1880
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1881
01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:40,599
Speaker 3: we can produce exclusive college football content, which I'm excited about.

1882
01:25:40,640 --> 01:25:43,320
Speaker 3: Colin's excited about, our producers and all of you are

1883
01:25:43,479 --> 01:25:45,200
Speaker 3: as well. But we thank you again for listening and

1884
01:25:45,240 --> 01:25:48,280
Speaker 3: for all of your support. We will be back tomorrow

1885
01:25:48,439 --> 01:25:52,040
Speaker 3: within SEC East preview and then before you know it,

1886
01:25:52,120 --> 01:25:54,800
Speaker 3: Week zero's here, then week one and we're in the mix.

1887
01:25:54,840 --> 01:25:56,719
Speaker 3: Thanks again for listening and we'll catch you all later.

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01:25:56,960 --> 01:25:58,080
Speaker 2: Cheers Heece south

1889
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Speaker 3: A