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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on

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Speaker 1: iHeartRadio and welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nory

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Speaker 1: with you. Jay Wazley started his filmmaking career in Philadelphia

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Speaker 1: television shows, commercials, as well music videos. He joined Ghost

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Speaker 1: Adventures in season four as the paranormal investigation team's sound

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Speaker 1: mixer and has since evolved into one of the show's

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Speaker 1: audio visual technicians and cinematographers. Throughout the series, he travels

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Speaker 1: with the team to domestic and international locations rumored to

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Speaker 1: be haunted in search of evidence, providing evidence for the supernatural. Jay,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the program. Good to have you here. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: thanks for having me. Happy to be here and this

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Speaker 1: is a great thing. How did this all start for you?

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Speaker 1: So for me? I mean from the show start. They

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Speaker 1: actually reached out to me. It was about twelve years ago,

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Speaker 1: two thousand and ten. I was doing a lot of

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Speaker 1: camera work and sound work and different TV shows, movies,

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Speaker 1: projects things like that, and Ghost the venture started. There

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Speaker 1: sometimes when you're investigating conal activity year and kind of

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Speaker 1: I would come out, I would fly out. I would

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Speaker 1: record all the sound for that and then fly out

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Speaker 1: before the investigation. But being such a small knit group,

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Speaker 1: we don't have big crew or anything like that. We

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Speaker 1: do a lot of the filming everything ourselves. We became

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Speaker 1: good friends being on the road, and I started throwing

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Speaker 1: ideas out to Zach Guy, saying, oh, you can try

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Speaker 1: And you started bringing me on a little bit more

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Speaker 1: visual technician and investigator. Now, prior to them bringing you in,

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Speaker 1: were you a believer in the paranormal side. Yeah, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: since I was a kid. Actually, I've had paranormal experiences.

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Speaker 1: I can always talk about, you know, a kind of joke,

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Speaker 1: my life kind of came full circle. I was a kid,

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Speaker 1: I was into the paranormal. I played with Luigi boards

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Speaker 1: have crazy you know, my teenage years. I had a

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Speaker 1: So I was always studying it and kind of building

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Speaker 1: I bet you must have some incredible audio that you've recorded.

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