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Speaker 4: That was definitely the meanest that you've ever been.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, sorry, sharp tongue.

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Speaker 1: I apologize. So we used to say, you know, Belichick

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Speaker 1: and Brady each made the other Greaterick and mac each

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Speaker 1: made the other. Do you continue to be mean?

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Speaker 4: You could drop?

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Speaker 1: Would you say the players had bounced in their step?

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Speaker 6: Oh no, No, talk about a game where you're gonna

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Speaker 6: look and be looking at silver lining, like like, do

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Speaker 6: we want to lose?

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Speaker 5: What team wants to lose?

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Speaker 6: More?

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Speaker 1: First, overall, First.

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Speaker 4: Make Jack Jones has just recently started acting.

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Speaker 1: The intimation there that he's trying to shoot his way

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Speaker 1: out of town.

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Speaker 7: I'm not sure if he knew what he was doing

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Speaker 4: Wrote something onlines. Are we being a little bit too

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Speaker 4: tough on macs?

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Speaker 3: A little tougher?

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Speaker 5: You know best.

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Thursday here

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Speaker 1: at Jillette Stadium, and we're following up on a very

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Speaker 1: lively Catch twenty two. Yes, yeah, you guys bicker like

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Speaker 1: you're married. Well, that's the that's the allure of it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's the show.

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Speaker 4: That's it.

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Speaker 1: That's the show.

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Speaker 6: No, it's good, good stuff, but only about running backs.

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Speaker 6: I was captivated while you were sitting in the dark.

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Speaker 1: I felt more like a captain. But no good stuff

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Speaker 1: Catch twenty two. If you didn't catch it live, you

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Speaker 1: can catch it on demand. But this is Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 1: We'll be here for the next couple of hours. It's Duce,

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Speaker 1: it's Evan, it's Paul, it's me, Matt and Nabooth and

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Speaker 1: it's Thursday. It's a big show, Pitt's Day.

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Speaker 5: The Queen will be down for the last hour to

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Speaker 5: make her picks known to her to her subjects.

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Speaker 4: Lash not quite as good this week, queen, So I

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Speaker 4: don't know if she'll be around.

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Speaker 5: We'll have to see a little bit of I think

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Speaker 5: she's aware I asked her to you I wouldn't laugh

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Speaker 5: too loud. Well, hey, I was under durest during the

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Speaker 5: club show.

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Speaker 4: You were fine and.

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Speaker 1: The club show, the club.

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Speaker 5: Club, the club Show. I watched a little of the

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Speaker 5: the video that we got. So there is some secret

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Speaker 7: I keep on we'll get it pictures and videos of

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Speaker 1: Release it as one off, so if we can do it, can.

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Speaker 5: Maybe clip some out of it. I mean, Paul dancing

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Speaker 1: So the shirt off, the nipple clamps, it was great.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and we tried to see what we could do

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Speaker 6: with that because we're all putting together a sort of

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Speaker 6: a Germany trip wrap up. Yeah, and there's clips that

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Speaker 5: Well, let's tease it Friday seventh. I was just gonna say, yeah, YouTube, Facebook,

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Speaker 1: So yeah, so if you're wondering what it was like

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I just say to like, you know, everybody

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Speaker 6: Mean it seemed like there was anything, uh newsworthy now

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the players are off today tomorrow through

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Speaker 5: We had locker room yesterday and you know you heard

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Speaker 7: Well, I felt like the bye week. I mean that's

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Speaker 7: Yeah, And I was like, what's going on here? Like

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Speaker 4: That was what it was, like, what are you going

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Whatever? Did any of the players share their plans

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Speaker 7: Bye We Yeah, a lot of a lot of guys

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Speaker 1: I heard this morning on the Rich Hill Show and

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Speaker 4: Oh right, I don't think it has kids, right.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he's been excited himself. I get a Mickey Mouse hears.

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Speaker 7: We actually saw them walking around Germany on Saturday after

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Speaker 1: So yeahs a good guy. I know a lot of

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Speaker 4: Of a lot of college football games.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, you know it must be a big thing that

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Speaker 1: it's like coming, you know, thanks, going back to your

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Speaker 1: they carry him in like Cleopatrick.

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Speaker 4: You know, he's back.

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Speaker 5: Who left Gorilla left. No, he's in the b U

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Speaker 1: It is, he really is.

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Speaker 6: I don't know why you guys have to make fun

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Speaker 4: That's me.

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Speaker 5: Now for now, Baseball.

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Speaker 7: I'll be in the you know, Writers Hall of Famer someday.

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Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, all right.

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Speaker 1: It's one of those clinic.

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Speaker 4: That that's a good question for d and the answer

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Speaker 5: I'm hearing a little from Jack Jones out and the Raiders.

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Speaker 5: He said, you know, kind of played it close to

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Speaker 1: I'm sure he would.

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Speaker 5: You don't know what he's gonna say. But curious how

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Speaker 5: And is he now suddenly going to stay on the

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Speaker 5: this gonna be kind of a tryout and maybe fade.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, So I'm still trying to wrap my head around

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Speaker 6: the fact that he brought guns to the airport in June,

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Speaker 4: Andy gresh No, he was talks, he talks. I mean

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Speaker 6: I mean, people know who I'm I'm referring to, and listen,

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Speaker 4: That's that's the business.

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Speaker 6: That's But I just don't know how you can make

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Speaker 4: Now did he know that?

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Speaker 6: Did he know that that Peters was was going to

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Speaker 5: I don't think just took the pouting to a new

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Speaker 6: It's just it amazes me that you could make the

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Speaker 6: This is just if we were talking about this and

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Speaker 6: Patriots keep bill?

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Speaker 9: Or not?

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Speaker 7: About just about Mac Jones? Like this stuff with Jack

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Speaker 7: Jones and J C. Jackson and Trent Brown like it's

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Speaker 7: like they have that's just the stuff we know, right,

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Speaker 7: And they have no there's no moral compass on this

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Speaker 7: this ten years ago? Never it's never would have flown,

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Speaker 6: It's like we go back to those guys that they

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Speaker 4: Good example, right.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so you guys think it's you know, the locker

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Speaker 1: The message sched the message gets lost because all right,

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, there's been a lot of reports last

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Speaker 7: you know, we're we're I'm saying, I'm out on Mac Jones.

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Speaker 1: I want to ask you about that Callahanton, because I

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Speaker 4: I tell Aaron to grow up.

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Speaker 11: You know.

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Speaker 4: But I get frustrated with that.

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Speaker 6: And that's you know, that's the whole all the presidents meant.

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Speaker 5: That's what struck me though. It's just like eighty eighty percent.

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Speaker 4: But I heard him talking about it with Fred Fred

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Speaker 6: I don't think this was like a rash decision based

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Speaker 1: Well do you guys? Well no, I definitely don't think

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Speaker 10: You know?

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Speaker 1: So I could see you you give Mack that last drive,

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Speaker 4: Couldn't you make an honest argument.

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Speaker 6: Who do you think had a better chance of making

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Speaker 1: Yeah. No. But I could make the argument either way

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00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:11,399
Speaker 1: that you give him that last chance, and then if

445
00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,680
Speaker 1: you figure out for the Giants, who's your starter.

446
00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:17,679
Speaker 7: I think it could have gone. You could look at

447
00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:19,760
Speaker 7: one of two ways. Either you know that way. I

448
00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:22,320
Speaker 7: think it is a good argument. But I also think

449
00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,040
Speaker 7: at some point you have to send a message to

450
00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,600
Speaker 7: the rest of the team like okay, like enough is enough,

451
00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:29,680
Speaker 7: Like we're not gonna keep on running this guy out

452
00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,520
Speaker 7: there that clearly can't get the job done, and let's

453
00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:34,680
Speaker 7: at least see what somebody else can do. And I've

454
00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,760
Speaker 7: been against putting Zappie in the game more than anybody probably,

455
00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:40,480
Speaker 7: but at that moment, well, how fair?

456
00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:41,399
Speaker 1: How fair was it?

457
00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,680
Speaker 6: It wasn't It wasn' fair to Zappi, But I think

458
00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,240
Speaker 6: that it was more than fair to Mac. Yeah, I

459
00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:50,240
Speaker 6: think he had got more than more than enough chances.

460
00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:52,720
Speaker 5: Do you think it's significan yesterday that they had Mac

461
00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:54,160
Speaker 5: at the top of the reps or do you think

462
00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,119
Speaker 5: that that's just we don't want to upset the apple

463
00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:57,159
Speaker 5: cart before the weekend.

464
00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:01,200
Speaker 1: I think, to me, correction mode, that's saying we haven't

465
00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:03,280
Speaker 1: made a decision yet, so we're gonna stick with what

466
00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:06,520
Speaker 1: we have and then we'll see next week. Yeah, get back.

467
00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:07,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with that.

468
00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:10,359
Speaker 7: I think that it's you know, we were at semantics

469
00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:12,920
Speaker 7: debating this on catch twenty two. I think it's way

470
00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,000
Speaker 7: more of a story if we were out there yesterday

471
00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,000
Speaker 7: and daily Zappi was taking first.

472
00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:18,560
Speaker 1: And now you've got a whole week of that before

473
00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,680
Speaker 1: they get back here. Right, Yeah, yeah, you know so,

474
00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:22,879
Speaker 1: I think, and.

475
00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:25,560
Speaker 6: Then the locker room was probably only like seventy two

476
00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,000
Speaker 6: you know, don't don't ask me to math.

477
00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:32,440
Speaker 1: No, but I mean we got issues. We got problems.

478
00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:34,920
Speaker 5: You know, it's not that we can solve them. That's

479
00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:36,800
Speaker 5: not going to be for our tailors, you know.

480
00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:40,280
Speaker 1: And we're playing a team that is equally in trouble,

481
00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:43,960
Speaker 1: you know, a week from Sunday, and it's going to

482
00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:48,200
Speaker 1: be a fascinating game, not from a standpoint of good football,

483
00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:49,960
Speaker 1: but just dynamics, you know.

484
00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,040
Speaker 7: Boy, But if it's like the game of the year,

485
00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:54,000
Speaker 7: what if it has come out of it it's like

486
00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:55,280
Speaker 7: a thirty eight to thirty.

487
00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,000
Speaker 5: Five, five three, five to three?

488
00:20:58,080 --> 00:20:59,800
Speaker 4: Can you I guess you can score five?

489
00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:01,840
Speaker 1: I mean, can can you see any way that that

490
00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:02,720
Speaker 1: would be possible?

491
00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:02,879
Speaker 9: No?

492
00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:09,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, unless the Patriots defense just gives up, which they

493
00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,840
Speaker 1: haven't given any indication yet that they are going to.

494
00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:13,520
Speaker 4: But did you watch the Washington ya at all?

495
00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,600
Speaker 1: Well, listen, I think I think the Patriots defense.

496
00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,399
Speaker 4: Has held The defense has been fine, has held up.

497
00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:22,520
Speaker 4: The defense is fine, it's fine. I just think that.

498
00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,240
Speaker 7: Just looking I get it, like we all are probably

499
00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:30,000
Speaker 7: looking for cracks and looking for for quit in this team.

500
00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,359
Speaker 7: They've you know, going back to the Washington game and

501
00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:34,520
Speaker 7: even going back to Miami game.

502
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:36,040
Speaker 4: The amount of mental.

503
00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,040
Speaker 7: Errors that they've made the last like three or four

504
00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:41,000
Speaker 7: weeks on defense is telling like they I could have

505
00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,520
Speaker 7: used to count on like one hand over a three

506
00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:46,959
Speaker 7: week span, how many times they like busted a coverage?

507
00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,119
Speaker 7: Where are they just one guy was in there in

508
00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:52,320
Speaker 7: the wrong coverage and it was a completely wide open receiver.

509
00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,359
Speaker 7: That's now happened like a handful of times. You know

510
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:58,480
Speaker 7: Jalen Waddle on the touchdown the wheel route last week,

511
00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:00,800
Speaker 7: where you know the guy drop the ball down the

512
00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 7: sideline as another busted coverage. The Commander's game, the cross

513
00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,440
Speaker 7: body throw by Sam Hallell across the field, that was

514
00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,720
Speaker 7: another busted coverage. Like you're just talking about plays like

515
00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:14,399
Speaker 7: that where mentally it doesn't seem like they're as locked

516
00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:14,840
Speaker 7: in as they know.

517
00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,840
Speaker 6: The tackling I thought was really especially the Washington game,

518
00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,720
Speaker 6: and it wasn't just guys are missing in the open field.

519
00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:23,400
Speaker 6: It's like they have them and then they're just sort

520
00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,840
Speaker 6: of like shrugging you off, like that that quarterback.

521
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:31,800
Speaker 5: That quarterback runs it's promising, promising to diving, diving for

522
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:32,560
Speaker 5: his shoulders.

523
00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:33,520
Speaker 1: But I don't but I.

524
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:37,359
Speaker 6: Don't believe that effort. I mean, we're taking the totality

525
00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,439
Speaker 6: of the ten games. I don't believe effort has been

526
00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:39,960
Speaker 6: a big problem.

527
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,679
Speaker 1: So no, you know, over the years when we had

528
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,480
Speaker 1: the newspaper, we used to do the mid season awards,

529
00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,600
Speaker 1: you know, because the buye usually happened. You know, let's

530
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:50,920
Speaker 1: let's go through that exercise. And I know it's we're

531
00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,439
Speaker 1: a little further than halfway, but you know, we're kind of.

532
00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:55,920
Speaker 4: I chose to do them in the notes for the league,

533
00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:59,040
Speaker 4: not only because.

534
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:00,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know with two and eight, so two and

535
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,440
Speaker 1: eight it's tough, but you know, let's go, let's go

536
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,359
Speaker 1: down the line. So so far, Rookie of.

537
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 7: The Yearnzales, Yeah, tomorrow Douglas, I agree, I don Gonzales

538
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:12,679
Speaker 7: would have been, but yeah, you get.

539
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 1: Hurt if you don't play it. I say, you.

540
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,440
Speaker 5: Guys are probably still that's that would be my pick.

541
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 5: But I think he's like long term. I mean, I

542
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:21,640
Speaker 5: love Pop Douglas and I think he's he's a piece

543
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 5: of the puzzle. But I feel like Gonzales is like,

544
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,160
Speaker 5: that's like you have an actual protection star player.

545
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 1: I mean, you do, but he didn't learn it this year. Yeah,

546
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:30,719
Speaker 1: I mean, you can't make the club from the top, right,

547
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:32,160
Speaker 1: So he played.

548
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,120
Speaker 4: It's one of those two three and a half. Yeah,

549
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:36,200
Speaker 4: and the other guy played nine.

550
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 1: Yeah. Defensive player of the half season Christian Barmore.

551
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,400
Speaker 5: That's a good one. That's a good one. Yeah, really

552
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 5: coming on, I mean, I don't know. Yeah, I was

553
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:49,040
Speaker 5: gonna say Peppers, I would say I would kind of

554
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:50,679
Speaker 5: say bar Moore though, I mean, I think Peppers has

555
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:51,760
Speaker 5: been good, but I just think.

556
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,480
Speaker 7: Bar Moore is for the same Jabi Peppers over there.

557
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,200
Speaker 5: But for the same reason. Though, I think this is

558
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 5: a guy you really need up front. I think he

559
00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:00,639
Speaker 5: can really make an impact. I mean, Bull Peppers, I

560
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:01,200
Speaker 5: really like him.

561
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:02,080
Speaker 4: Pick how much?

562
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,160
Speaker 5: How much impact does he make per game?

563
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 12: Like?

564
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 5: I like his attitude and all that, but I feel

565
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 5: like Barmore can you know, really have a presence in

566
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:08,400
Speaker 5: an area.

567
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 1: That he offensive Player of the half season of the

568
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,160
Speaker 1: off season geez.

569
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,400
Speaker 5: Shot, I don't know, Henry or pop shot.

570
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 4: David Andrews.

571
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 5: That's a good safe pick.

572
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 7: All of the chaos, David Andrews has been steady.

573
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,440
Speaker 1: I know he's hurt now, but I think Douglas but

574
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 1: I think he played enough where I give it to

575
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 1: Kendrick Bourne one.

576
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 6: No, Yeah, I don't Okay, I had a couple of

577
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:36,160
Speaker 6: good games here or there, but I'd probably go Douglas

578
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 6: over him, just because I would Douglas.

579
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:42,119
Speaker 5: He's rising. But I get why I haven't said David Andrews.

580
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:43,639
Speaker 5: I mean, I think if they didn't have him, it

581
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:45,440
Speaker 5: might it might completely be off.

582
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 1: The righty and for his leadership too, you know. I

583
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, what is some of the brown category brown?

584
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,239
Speaker 1: How about come back play? Now Paul hates that one

585
00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:01,439
Speaker 1: come back player to come black player of the half season.

586
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 5: Oh it's not Phil O'Brien.

587
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 1: That's a coach, Mike right, coach right, comeback player of.

588
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:10,880
Speaker 5: The who's come back?

589
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:12,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm trying to think.

590
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,680
Speaker 5: I mean Michael when you he wasn't really gone last year.

591
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:16,640
Speaker 5: He was gone one game.

592
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe we don't have one, you know,

593
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 1: so yeah, everybody's kind of back. What's the play of

594
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 1: the hof season?

595
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 4: Off the field goal Miami? Yeah, it was a great player.

596
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:34,159
Speaker 5: I was.

597
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,960
Speaker 4: I wasn't even being ironic, Okay, all right, I.

598
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 7: Would say the play that the season was Kendrick Bourne's

599
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:45,640
Speaker 7: touchdown in Week one because at that moment, the offense

600
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,400
Speaker 7: looked like, okay, we got.

601
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 4: That's the high watermark for the offense. It goes back

602
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 4: to back drives in the second.

603
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 7: Literally the most aesthetically pleasing play Dyve ran all year.

604
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 7: It happened in Week one.

605
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 1: For me, you know, because of like how we felt afterwards,

606
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 1: was the Kasickie catch for the touchdown.

607
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:03,879
Speaker 5: It's not a great play, but just a great result.

608
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 4: I get it, and it was a great result. I

609
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 4: just felt like the season was over by that point.

610
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:08,880
Speaker 5: Yeah.

611
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:09,879
Speaker 1: I know that.

612
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 4: I know the path was open for a lot, but

613
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 4: it wasn't for me. It was open. It was wide open.

614
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 1: I mean I kind of lump all that like door Field,

615
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:19,679
Speaker 1: want you in the face.

616
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 5: The Remondre run, the Hunter Henry third down pass, and

617
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 5: then the touchdown. If you all connected those, I mean,

618
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,120
Speaker 5: that's probably the best sequence, but far and away.

619
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 6: I mean, there is no second for the best sequence,

620
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 6: win whatever you want to say everything.

621
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:34,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, that fourth quarter of the Bills game.

622
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 1: What about the worst play of the off season?

623
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:43,120
Speaker 4: That interception last week, no question, that's the worst player

624
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:44,120
Speaker 4: of the last half cent.

625
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:48,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, oh geez, yeah, I don't even know what would

626
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 5: be what would be second?

627
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:51,360
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot to choose from, but I'm

628
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,919
Speaker 1: not nothing really like rises. Well maybe that Mac throwback

629
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,120
Speaker 1: across you took the words, but the second one, which

630
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 1: against Dallas. Expand upon that thought, Michael, I'm sorry, I'm

631
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:03,400
Speaker 1: going to need more information.

632
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, oh man, that throw back across his body. But

633
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 5: it's like, I mean, look at the theme of it though,

634
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 5: it's just these mistakes that like you just can't hand

635
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 5: for quarterback.

636
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 1: Like what's the headline of the half season the end

637
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 1: of Bill Belichick and Mac? The end is Bill's future? Yeah, yeah, and.

638
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:27,120
Speaker 4: Now the end is near. Yeah, the end is here,

639
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 4: not near.

640
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 5: Any other categories you want to do, I mean they're

641
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:35,640
Speaker 5: probably negative ones.

642
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 4: I mean, there is there an m VP of this team.

643
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 4: I don't. I don't.

644
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,680
Speaker 5: I don't know, Yeah, I don't.

645
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:44,160
Speaker 1: I mean that one.

646
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 5: I might say Peppers, like for the send you would

647
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 5: have Nickymore.

648
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 1: I might.

649
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,679
Speaker 5: I might say Peppers. Just because he's brought you like him.

650
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,640
Speaker 5: I love him more than I like him.

651
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:57,160
Speaker 1: He is a good dude.

652
00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 5: He's a good guy. I mean, I want to make

653
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 5: fun of you, but he's a good I mean, I

654
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,440
Speaker 5: I also just am speaking to the loss of Judon

655
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 5: was like monumental for off the field entertainment. And I

656
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:09,880
Speaker 5: feel like Pepper's has at least given us a little

657
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 5: bit of just you know, personality and you know, some

658
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 5: fun and you know, and some hard hits and all

659
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 5: that kind of stuff.

660
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 1: What does that mean from No Socks?

661
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:21,879
Speaker 6: Oh okay, so he's such a jerk. So he claims

662
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 6: that you you might not remember this seven because you

663
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 6: were probably like two. There was a game that the

664
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 6: Patriots lost to Pittsburgh on a Saturday night in Foxboro,

665
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,679
Speaker 6: the Old Stadium. They had the game at the end,

666
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 6: they were trying to get a couple of first downs.

667
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 6: They threw a screen bled Soe threw out against Pittsburgh.

668
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 6: Kevan Henry picked it off and they ended up winning,

669
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 6: a really bad loss for the Patriots.

670
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 4: And No Socks says, that was the only throw we

671
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 4: ever saw that was worse.

672
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 1: And I was like.

673
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 6: Defensive lineman picking off a screen pass. Like screen passes,

674
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 6: you don't look at your target, you know, run the

675
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 6: play and you.

676
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 4: Just throw it.

677
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 7: Not supposed to be there, it comes. Here comes the

678
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 7: Drew defense.

679
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 6: I could give you eight hundred picks by Drew. There

680
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 6: were a lot worse than that. One's Drew a lot

681
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 6: worse because he threw.

682
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 1: A lot of picks for for many teams.

683
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,239
Speaker 6: He did, You are correct, But anyway, Matt has been

684
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 6: busting my balls about that particular throw all week, and

685
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 6: he keeps sending me into orbit with it.

686
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 5: I'm gonna have to look it up.

687
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 1: What was young Ryland's best field goal of the hot season?

688
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, I knew it. It was here.

689
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 5: There was a fifty was that buffalo?

690
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 4: I think it might too many? But a great kick?

691
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 12: That was?

692
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, that one went threw the uprights, it was perfect.

693
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 4: Split the upright.

694
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 5: Bearinger's best punt to get.

695
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 1: Back, yeah, I did. It's too far.

696
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 4: He doesn't now kick his coverage though.

697
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 1: So if anyone wants to add to what we've said

698
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 1: or come up with their own category.

699
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 7: Let's play nice, all right, don't be too mean, you can.

700
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 6: How about the forty something yard play to Douglas in Dallas?

701
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 6: There was for like, there was like the best play

702
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 6: kind of thing.

703
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, except two guys ran into each other.

704
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 4: Don't with details the hair the sixty four yard run

705
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 4: for ven So that was a good.

706
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a good one. Yep.

707
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 6: You when I called him gone gone upon the handoff

708
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 6: being completed, he is gone.

709
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 4: He was good run. I was like, she's gone.

710
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 1: I think for a long time that I can't remember

711
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 1: a running back on this team running for that long

712
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 1: and not getting caught from behind.

713
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, the like Lagair Blunt twenty fourteen, maybe against the cold.

714
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 6: So the long ones, the whatever game in Buffalo, the

715
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 6: wind Oh right, har Harris had a long one, Right.

716
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 5: I have kind of one. Just who are you most

717
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 5: disappointed in?

718
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 1: Oh, let's let's start the list. This is the most

719
00:30:55,120 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 1: I think, well, Max up top, most disappointed. I'm disappointed.

720
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 1: There's a lot of cameras.

721
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 5: You're not mad at them?

722
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 1: Juju Juju, Yeah.

723
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,479
Speaker 6: Because I didn't think Juju was an upgrade over Myers,

724
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 6: and you were still disappointed. But I didn't think you

725
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 6: thought it would be about even man, I thought it was.

726
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 6: I thought it was a wash at best, and if

727
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 6: and if he didn't fit in, it could be worse.

728
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 6: I didn't think it was going.

729
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 9: To be this.

730
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, now it's like, how do we get out of it?

731
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 4: I'm most disappointed in Bill O'Brien.

732
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, that was where I was, because when you start,

733
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 7: even though I knew it wouldn't be great, I thought

734
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:37,959
Speaker 7: it would at least be NFL caliber, and he's got

735
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 7: to take some of the blame for Mac falling apart.

736
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, he does.

737
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,479
Speaker 1: How about Thornton, Oh, that's another good one.

738
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 4: I don't know if I had any hope.

739
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 6: That's why, Like you know, when you start saying some

740
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 6: of these guys, that's kind of how I like, I'm

741
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 6: not all that disappointed in Mac and and I would

742
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 6: put Thornton close to that because I wasn't really expecting

743
00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 6: this huge meteoric rise.

744
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 4: Okay, so, but they have been disappointing.

745
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 1: Here's the next category. Biggest surprise, Now Tomaria Douglas. We

746
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 1: saw he's by far, but we saw things in training

747
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 1: camp that's like, wow, they're using them a lot. Okay,

748
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 1: so let's let's eliminate him because like we were seeing

749
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 1: indications that this guy might be someone that they're gonna use.

750
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: Who else, Like once the season started, who's been your

751
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 1: biggest positive surprise?

752
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 5: I Mean, this isn't a sexy one, but I'm kind

753
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 5: of surprised that guy and Godshaw have played as stout

754
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 5: as they could and they haven't really fallen off as

755
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 5: far as run defense.

756
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 1: That's good.

757
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 5: I kind of thought this year that like this could

758
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 5: be when it finally turns with them, and you know

759
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 5: it's not enough. You can't just have good run defenders.

760
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 5: But I'm they've they've played hard, they've played well. I

761
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 5: don't think they've really you know, a couple of instances

762
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 5: they've gotten run on, but but they haven't gotten run

763
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 5: over much this season, So I good for them. I mean,

764
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 5: I was looking at we got to rebuild those guys,

765
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 5: and I mean I think god shall be here a bit.

766
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 5: But but they played, they played pretty well.

767
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 1: Minus Pepper's again, Yeah, I think he's one, yeah.

768
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 4: The highest graded player on defense.

769
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 1: The p f F. Okay, it's almost like.

770
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 4: You can watch for a while.

771
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 1: For a while, Jennings was trending for me, but he's

772
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 1: kind of fallen off a little bit.

773
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 4: Surprised me too, Jennings has been pretty.

774
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 5: Yes, I think he's just confirmed to me that he

775
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 5: could be what I thought he was, which is a

776
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 5: good strong stout And you're not going.

777
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: To get much more on him.

778
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 5: But look, I said i'd be able to bring him

779
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 5: back as death count absolutely counts.

780
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 7: Has he done enough because I mean he qualifies, like

781
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 7: in terms of like I'm not talking about it.

782
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not talking about statistically.

783
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 5: I would say, no, Okay, I think he does.

784
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 4: I will accept the ruling. Yeah, I will not.

785
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 5: I think he's gotten a few teams on a few times,

786
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 5: but it's not like he's a dynamic piece that every

787
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 5: week is going to be involved.

788
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:53,239
Speaker 4: In because they don't feed him.

789
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: On the disappointment one. On the disappointment when we kind

790
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 1: of left out even though he was also involved in

791
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 1: the best play for me, it was Kiki, Like I

792
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 1: thought we'd see a little bit more disappointing.

793
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, good, good one.

794
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 7: I thought about that with this about Kasiki, and not

795
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,360
Speaker 7: to like blame everything on Mac, but like the seems

796
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 7: just are not open for this quarterback.

797
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 4: It's not he's just.

798
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 6: Stopped doing it. How many stopped doing it? But he should,

799
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 6: Yeah he should. He cannot throw that pass and my guy,

800
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 6: but on this since he.

801
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 1: Was a rookie.

802
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, so that's tough. That always, But that's a that's

803
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 4: a good one.

804
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 6: Like we'll go back to what we thought, you know

805
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 6: heading in and you know, I may have been you know,

806
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 6: critical of Juju for Myers, but I was not critical

807
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 6: of Kasiki for John who and I said, no, I

808
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 6: can see I'm with the fans on this one. I

809
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 6: think that's an upgrade. It hasn't been. He's the same

810
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 6: as John O was here. Yeah, he's kind of a non.

811
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 7: Factor and June you look it's it's it's Jen.

812
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 1: I like ju jus that all right, let's open it

813
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 1: up to the callers. Well, art with Alan in Canada

814
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 1: on the ACE ticket hot line. What's up.

815
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 12: Yeah, it's a first time, long time.

816
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 1: Thank you.

817
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 12: I usually take the drive down nine hours from where

818
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 12: I live and I go see a Patriots game every year.

819
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 12: This year I had the unfortunate circumstance to come and

820
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 12: see the Saints.

821
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 1: So you're looking for your money this season?

822
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 12: Yeah, I had fun, but you know I've seen better games.

823
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,919
Speaker 12: Looking at the reality of where we are, I think

824
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 12: last game is the perfect game if we could have

825
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 12: the same scenario for the rest of the year, meaning

826
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 12: that the defense is playing somewhat well, knowing that we

827
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 12: have good players coming back, and the offense is in

828
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 12: reality good enough to be in there at the end

829
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 12: of the game and then ash and burn at the

830
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 12: last second and lose the game. Basically, that's what I

831
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:07,280
Speaker 12: want to see for the rest of the season, because

832
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 12: you know, there's no hope in this season and at

833
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 12: least with this type of game that we just had.

834
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 12: At least I watched the whole thing when I came

835
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 12: and seeing the Saints. You know, people were leaving at halftime.

836
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 10: So.

837
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think there would have been people leaving at

838
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 4: halftime that.

839
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 12: We have a home that we can actually win a

840
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 12: game and then still lose it and get a good draft.

841
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 1: I want to have my heart. I want to get

842
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 1: I want to heart ripped out everybody. I still lose it.

843
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,879
Speaker 7: Part of it that that's taking one on one right there.

844
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 7: Enough hope that I know we got something with the

845
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 7: roster that isn't completed.

846
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I get I get Allen's points.

847
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,399
Speaker 6: I just would say, like, can we play a little

848
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 6: bit more of an entertaining kind of game, Like do

849
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 6: we have to see more of Bryce Barrener.

850
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 4: Than anybody else?

851
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 6: Because this is what Bill wants like I would want.

852
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 6: I would like to think you can find a way

853
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 6: to lose a game. You know, I don't know twenty

854
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,240
Speaker 6: four twenty one, so at least you have some offense

855
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 6: like twenty seventeen, seventeenth thirty.

856
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 7: Don't get, don't get this game in Germany is exactly

857
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 7: how he wants to play football, Like.

858
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,280
Speaker 6: If I have to watch that game eight more times,

859
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, I don't know if I'll make the

860
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 6: Giants game might be Yeah, the Giants game unprepared for.

861
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 4: I actually think the Patriots are.

862
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 1: Gonna kill them als in Wisconsin? What's up?

863
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 4: Al?

864
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 13: Hey, how you guys doing all right?

865
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I've got to thanks.

866
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 13: I'll try to be quick with it. The first thing

867
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 13: is a challenge callers. You're gonna call and talk about

868
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 13: Drake May and Caleb Williams. Come with a take, not

869
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 13: just hey, who do you guys want? Drake Way, Drake May,

870
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 13: Caleb Williams because I can't hear that.

871
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 5: Oh neither can we.

872
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's gonna be man.

873
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 11: The second thing is maybe talking to your phone, you guys,

874
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:58,280
Speaker 11: what do you guys.

875
00:37:58,239 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 13: Take out of the.

876
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 12: Bill?

877
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:05,800
Speaker 13: I haven't even decided on where he's going to be

878
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 13: max If I'm a player and.

879
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 1: I see that, like, yeah, whose report was that?

880
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:16,399
Speaker 4: Said it? It wasn't a report. Since walked it back

881
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 4: because I think I.

882
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 6: Think he has sort of gotten a lesson about journalism

883
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:22,879
Speaker 6: a little bit, like you can't just say things.

884
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, I saw San Diego or Chargers.

885
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: Well Gary Myers, who had a report a couple of days,

886
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 1: you know, it's he's followed up with this whole thing.

887
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,720
Speaker 1: And I gotta say, I think Gary meyers initial report

888
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 1: hit the nail on the head. I think I think

889
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 1: that's exactly what what did that say? It said that,

890
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 1: you know, the Patriots, this is going to be it.

891
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 1: The Patriots are going to continue to pay him, and

892
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 1: if another team comes calling, there'll be compensation that the

893
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 1: Patriots will ask for.

894
00:38:56,320 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 7: Uh, but that this is it so basically like he'll

895
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,320
Speaker 7: step away from coaching like Sean Payton.

896
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he'll still be under contract. He'll be paid.

897
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 5: But you know, I thought, for me, the first thing

898
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,800
Speaker 5: I thought it was Bill versus the Chargers social media

899
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 5: team would be just.

900
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 1: World war even thought of it.

901
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:18,760
Speaker 4: That's awesome.

902
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 6: And I don't you know, I don't like to advocate

903
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 6: for people losing jobs, but house, if he got that

904
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,399
Speaker 6: job and I was on that social media team, I'd

905
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 6: be punching up the old resume.

906
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 1: But if your Bill, and like, you know, do you

907
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 1: come into a new situation like that.

908
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 5: And say I don't have time. I got two years here,

909
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 5: I just gotta I just got to get Justin Herbert

910
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 5: to play you know, sound football.

911
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 4: So fred, I want to go back to the Gary

912
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 4: Myers thing. So do you think.

913
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 14: So?

914
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 4: Do you do you think that Bill wants to coach

915
00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 4: next year?

916
00:39:59,640 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 10: I do?

917
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 4: Do you think that?

918
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 6: Let's just play it out and so he's going to

919
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 6: step aside or he's not going to force Robert to

920
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 6: fire him. He's gonna say I don't want to coach.

921
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, like he's gonna do what Peyton did. I know,

922
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 6: but I don't want to coach you, right, But you

923
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,800
Speaker 6: know right, that's what Peyton did. Peyton wanted to keep coaching.

924
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 1: You can't.

925
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 4: He didn't want to He didn't want to continue to coach.

926
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 1: Just like you can't force somebody to make you work,

927
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 1: you can't force somebody to fire you. Like if they

928
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 1: say we're not firing you, you're just not going to

929
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 1: coach anymore, that's okay.

930
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 4: But if if Bill wants to coach, then you have

931
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:40,720
Speaker 4: to fire him, is my point?

932
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 1: No, you do, yes, you do. You just take away

933
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:43,760
Speaker 1: his responsibilities.

934
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 4: Then you have to pay him. That's breach of content.

935
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 1: They are going to pay him, But why his job

936
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 1: is going to be to go to anti they are

937
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 1: going to.

938
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 4: Pay if he wants to continue to coach here, right,

939
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 4: and they don't let him do that, Yeah, then you

940
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 4: fired him, but not if you're still paying him. So

941
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 4: then you're telling him he can't coach anywhere else.

942
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 1: No, unless they give compensation. Correct.

943
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't see that all happening now.

944
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 1: The question now, but it's a good question because what

945
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 1: I was thinking this out, how much how much compensation

946
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 1: can you demand before the league steps in and says, whoa, whoa, whoa,

947
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: you're being unreasonable. This guy has a right to work.

948
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:27,879
Speaker 1: You know you're asking and I'm just gonna throw out

949
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 1: a number just to be crazy. But you're asking for

950
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 1: four first round picks. That's unreasonable, and you're you're barring

951
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 1: this guy from his livelihood even though you're paying him.

952
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 1: He wants to work, and you're not allowing him because

953
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 1: four first round picks is not reasonable the league. I

954
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 1: think in this case when it was Parcels going to

955
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 1: the Jets from here, and I think the league determined

956
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 1: what the reasonable compensation would be, but I think the

957
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:57,320
Speaker 1: Patriots would have to abide by it.

958
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 4: But what I'm asking, what if he wants to coach

959
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 4: the Patriots.

960
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, you know, not an option.

961
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 4: Not an option, then then you can't stop him, and

962
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 4: you can't demand compensation.

963
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:08,839
Speaker 1: I think you can.

964
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 4: They're breaching the contract Fred Parcel.

965
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 1: It was the same thing with parts.

966
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 4: Parcells didn't want to coach the Patriots.

967
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 1: But he wanted to coach elsewhere, right.

968
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 4: And Bill doesn't in this scenario. This is hypothetical, I know,

969
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 4: I know.

970
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 1: I think though, just just like a coach doesn't want

971
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 1: to coach anymore, a team can say we don't want

972
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 1: you to coach anymore, but we're gonna pay you.

973
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,359
Speaker 4: So that right, But then you can't have both.

974
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 6: But if he wants to continue to coach the Patriots

975
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 6: and you won't let him, that ends the contract. That's

976
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 6: firing him, so you don't have to pay him, mate,

977
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 6: but he gets to go wherever he wants. Now, I

978
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 6: think you're probably right. I think Bill, this is kind

979
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 6: of on you know, hasn't really been talked about. As

980
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 6: part of this is how much does Bill want to stay?

981
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing.

982
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 6: Maybe he doesn't want to stay anymore either, So in

983
00:42:58,320 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 6: that case then you could do what friends.

984
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 1: And I I think that you know, maybe it is

985
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 1: brinksmanship on both sides parts. But if the you know,

986
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 1: like I'm sure that the Crafts know whether Bill wants

987
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 1: to stay or go, Yeah, and they're probably strategized like

988
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 1: he wants to go.

989
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 4: You think they've had conversations about this already. Yes, I

990
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 4: don't know.

991
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:17,919
Speaker 1: I don't.

992
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 4: I don't know either.

993
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. Why do you say yes?

994
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 4: Because I don't.

995
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 7: I learned with Brady the hard way that none of

996
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 7: this stuff happens overnight at good point.

997
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 4: And I just think that.

998
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 7: Brady, I think knew that twenty nineteen was his last

999
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 7: season with the Patriots, the.

1000
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 4: Entire year, and he told us that in the summer. Yeah,

1001
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 4: And I think that it's the same with Bill.

1002
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 7: And in some ways that almost makes me feel better

1003
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 7: about what's happened, because the only explanation I can have

1004
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 7: of why he just let this whole thing just crumble

1005
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 7: to the ground is because he wasn't trying to be.

1006
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 1: But let's just let's play you know, strategy here, and

1007
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,839
Speaker 1: let's say Paul's correct, A team can't stop a guy

1008
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 1: who wants to coach. But let's it but without firing, right,

1009
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 1: without fire. But let's say Bill, Let's say the Chargers. Okay,

1010
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 1: just to name of team. Let's say Bill wants to

1011
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 1: go to the Chargers. He's already even had backdoor conversations

1012
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 1: with the Chargers like yeah, I want to go coach you.

1013
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 1: But he doesn't want to go in in his first

1014
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 1: year not having that first round draft pick that the

1015
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 1: Chargers would have to give up. So he plays brinksmanship

1016
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 1: with the Crafts and said, no, I want to stay,

1017
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 1: you know I And like, how, like I.

1018
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 4: Really think he's going to get a first round pick.

1019
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 1: Huh.

1020
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,280
Speaker 5: That's what my question is, just what is a realistic

1021
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 5: conversation for this.

1022
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:40,919
Speaker 7: I don't know if he will get a first round pick,

1023
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,839
Speaker 7: but that I'm holding a hard line on that. If

1024
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 7: I'm Robert Kraft, like, I'm not giving him up.

1025
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 6: But that's part of the brinksmanship that Fred's talking about.

1026
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 6: You can do that, then you run the risks and

1027
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 6: saying Okay, I'll stay. Yeah, but you don't want him

1028
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:54,240
Speaker 6: to stay.

1029
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 1: Right, You don't want him And that's why, to Evan's point,

1030
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 1: I think maybe it's better to just get it out

1031
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 1: in the open with the guy, right.

1032
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 6: And I think that's what all of this stuff is

1033
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 6: an effort to do I think that, you know, like

1034
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 6: to your point, you think Gary Myers might have it right, Well,

1035
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 6: I don't think Gary Meyers just pulled it out of

1036
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:12,720
Speaker 6: the air. I think he's probably talking to some people.

1037
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think maybe it's better that they did

1038
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 1: already have that that talk.

1039
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,800
Speaker 5: So, Paul, you're not gonna let me imagine a fantasy

1040
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 5: LAMB where we get a first round pick for Bill Belichick.

1041
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:25,919
Speaker 4: No, I have no idea. Maybe they will.

1042
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 6: I mean I find it maybe the Chargers because that

1043
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 6: will probably be around twenty, So I mean, maybe that

1044
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 6: could happen, like the Bears ain't given you one now, but.

1045
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 7: The Commanders would be around the same, like fifteen to

1046
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 7: twenty probably where they're going.

1047
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 6: I just think that I told you my sources in

1048
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 6: Washington say that Washington is not interested in Bill. I

1049
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 6: don't know if that's true, but you know, with my source,

1050
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 6: I don't want to say sources.

1051
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: I only had one with the with the Belichick from

1052
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 1: the Jets to hear Belichick didn't want to coach there.

1053
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 1: They wanted him to, but he said, I'm not coaching

1054
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: for you with parcels. Both parties didn't wanted parcels didn't

1055
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 1: want to coach here anymore, and the Crafts didn't want

1056
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 1: him to coach here anymore either, but they wanted compensation.

1057
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, right, I think I think that is the precedent.

1058
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 5: I was thinking a lot about it last night. And

1059
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 5: I don't know about you guys, but don't you just

1060
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:20,359
Speaker 5: like I feel like it's going to be yourub Mayo, Like, right,

1061
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:22,359
Speaker 5: it's got to be your Mayo.

1062
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 12: Right.

1063
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 5: I'm not saying I'm I'm you know, one hundred percent Condonia,

1064
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 5: but like.

1065
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 4: I would certainly say that that's what the indications look like.

1066
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 4: I'm Here's the thing.

1067
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 1: Here's the thing is, you know we talked about, well,

1068
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: you know, the Patriots never fire a coach in mid season,

1069
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 1: but teams do that, and they have done that, and

1070
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:40,800
Speaker 1: just one of the reasons they do that is so

1071
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 1: that they get ahead start on the off season. You know.

1072
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 1: So I would imagine that if if it is the

1073
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:53,320
Speaker 1: Craft you know, uh, endgame to have a new regime,

1074
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 1: they got to move fast. They got to move fast

1075
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,800
Speaker 1: because you got the Senior Bowl and the you know,

1076
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:02,319
Speaker 1: you've got to have people in place that are going

1077
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 1: to go and start that scouting process leading up to

1078
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 1: the draft. You can't wait around, I think it, and

1079
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 1: that might be the quickest way to get going.

1080
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 4: So and I also will say, like some of these things,

1081
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 4: there's two different things.

1082
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 1: I agree with you.

1083
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 4: The bet the faster you can do it, the better.

1084
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 6: But that's why a lot of these teams that make

1085
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 6: these transitions keep the scouting department in place. And Belichick

1086
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 6: himself did it here. Bobby Greer didn't get fired until

1087
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 6: after the draft, so back in two thousand, because all

1088
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 6: that work and all that prep is done by those

1089
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 6: guys that are in personnel.

1090
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:32,359
Speaker 1: Now.

1091
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 4: I think Macro will still be here too, you know,

1092
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 4: and he may go after the draft if you know,

1093
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 4: they want to clean it all out.

1094
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 1: I don't know. I I agree. I always thought it

1095
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 1: was interesting that we have Matt grow and Elliott Wolf.

1096
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 1: I figured by now Elliott Wolf would be gone to

1097
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 1: another team, you know.

1098
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 5: Uh yeah, I was also I was thinking, like, who

1099
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:57,720
Speaker 5: does Bill take if he were to go to the Chargers?

1100
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:01,320
Speaker 5: Did like well, but but but but seriously though, like

1101
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 5: and I thought about that, But you know, these are

1102
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:06,320
Speaker 5: both two young guys with young families that are this

1103
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 5: is all they know is living in New England. I

1104
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 5: mean it's not just like all right, Steve Bryant, we're

1105
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 5: going to like it's a that's a hard that's.

1106
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 4: A hard see like the l a thing for that,

1107
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 4: Like it just doesn't strike me as.

1108
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 1: Like and I just the charges only because that was

1109
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 1: the number one he sets the number one on that

1110
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 1: list and his follow up story he mentioned the charge.

1111
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 4: I saw the tweet.

1112
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 5: I just like the fit of what they have there,

1113
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 5: of what that team's kind of persona is. And it

1114
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 5: feels like if Bill Belichick, and I'm talking about the

1115
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 5: proverbial Bill Belichick, not Bill Belichick right now, like could

1116
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 5: come in and and still discipline into a team and

1117
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:44,360
Speaker 5: get them all, you know, like they do anime to

1118
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 5: kick a field goal, it's going to be anime. Oh boy,

1119
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 5: oh boy, fire the But I thought the same thing too,

1120
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:51,359
Speaker 5: Fred that you said where it's like, if he goes

1121
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 5: to a new place, does he have time and the

1122
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 5: energy to do everything that he's put into place here

1123
00:48:57,719 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 5: in terms of having everything under his thumb, Like do

1124
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 5: you have that mental capacity now when you've got to

1125
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 5: go into a new team and like you got to win,

1126
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 5: like you got you can't just come in and spend

1127
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 5: your your half your first day, like going through like

1128
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 5: the social media productions and being like this isn't gonna

1129
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 5: work for me now, you know, Like it just seems

1130
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 5: like I don't know, it's gonna be hard for him.

1131
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 1: I can't see the Chargers and and you know, we

1132
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 1: could all be wrong. Maybe because it doesn't want to

1133
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 1: coach anymore. Maybe the Crafts pay him, you know, out

1134
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 1: of contract as thank you for your service. Yeah, and

1135
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 1: that's it.

1136
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 7: I think I can't see the Chargers for two reasons. One,

1137
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 7: I think if you're the Chargers, you have to get

1138
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 7: an offensive minded head coach for Justin Herbert because you

1139
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 7: just did it with a defensive guy and it's it's

1140
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 7: not good enough. He's good enough, but the rest of

1141
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 7: it's not good enough. And I still don't know if

1142
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 7: the spanis Is are gonna pay him, right, And so

1143
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 7: if the Crafts are still paying Bill, then maybe, but

1144
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:54,760
Speaker 7: if you're trading him, then you're not still paying.

1145
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 6: But that's probably yeah, and that's probably only for a

1146
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:58,799
Speaker 6: year or anyway, right, even if you didn't trade for.

1147
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,359
Speaker 7: The Spaniss are not paying him twenty five million dollars

1148
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:02,319
Speaker 7: a year to be your coach.

1149
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the other The thought I kind of

1150
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 5: came to to a Mayo is he's kind of a

1151
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 5: good steward to get you over the post Belichick hump. Now,

1152
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 5: I know everybody wants to hire the hot new offensive

1153
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 5: mind that it's going to be the guy who partners

1154
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 5: with a quarterback and takes you back to the promised

1155
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 5: they Okay, well I got something for you. Is that realistic?

1156
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 1: All right?

1157
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:24,800
Speaker 7: So Drodmeo is the head coach, which I think is

1158
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:27,439
Speaker 7: going to happen too. Yeah, yeah, I think that Josh

1159
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 7: is coming back. Josh McDaniels is not getting another head

1160
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 7: coaching job.

1161
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 4: Now, I really hate it.

1162
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 5: Would Bill take Josh with him at a newsplace.

1163
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 1: Maybe.

1164
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 7: I don't know if you're if you're the if you're

1165
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 7: worried about the offensive coordinator cares al that we've had

1166
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:45,919
Speaker 7: the last couple of years.

1167
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 4: He's not getting a third head coaching job.

1168
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 1: He could end up being like the offensive coordinator for

1169
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 1: the Steelers that was there forever, Like.

1170
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:55,319
Speaker 7: He could be here for like the last time when

1171
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:57,439
Speaker 7: he got fired by the Broncos. Is here for ten years?

1172
00:50:57,680 --> 00:50:57,919
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1173
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 7: You know, And I think that Gerrod Mayo as the

1174
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 7: head coach, Josh McDaniels as the offensive coordinator that still

1175
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 7: keeps the fingerprints of what was successful here, but it's

1176
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 7: a different sort.

1177
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:13,959
Speaker 4: Of guy running the show. And I'm I'm with Paul.

1178
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 7: I don't really like it because I would rather just

1179
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 7: start start anew But I think that starting a new

1180
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 7: for the Craft might be a little bit too risky.

1181
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 5: I mean, I just I wonder, you know, if if

1182
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:27,320
Speaker 5: Bill might take Steve, you know, would take Steve to

1183
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:29,360
Speaker 5: be his defensive coordinator somewhere else, and it.

1184
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 4: Can take Steve wherever, you know, and then Steve and then.

1185
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 5: Gira, you know, maybe it's de Marcus Covington.

1186
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:35,839
Speaker 1: You know, I just how would it all fall out.

1187
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 4: The defensive coordinator here? I could see that, yeah, Or Patrick.

1188
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:45,320
Speaker 5: Graham, Patrick, I just trying to make peace, trying to

1189
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 5: make peace with with the Mayo of it all. And

1190
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:49,360
Speaker 5: I think that's just where I arrived, was like, you know,

1191
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 5: is it realistic?

1192
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:51,879
Speaker 1: Spread Mayo too things.

1193
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 5: Let's just keep Mayo on the side for the second

1194
00:51:56,280 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 5: and talk about the best. But you know, a few

1195
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:03,320
Speaker 5: years like and and he's the one who gets a

1196
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:05,400
Speaker 5: past Bill, and we get some drafticks, we start to

1197
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 5: acquire talent. Now maybe Mayo gets to a point where, hey,

1198
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:10,800
Speaker 5: three four years in, it's it's not you're not getting

1199
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 5: to that next level, and then you need to make

1200
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 5: that offensive move finally. But I think I'm just.

1201
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 1: Trying in my heart to make peace with that move.

1202
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 5: Obviously I like a lot about it, but there's all

1203
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 5: we all there are things we don't like about that

1204
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 5: move too. But I think it could work in a

1205
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 5: way if our expectation wasn't that this next coach is

1206
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 5: going on.

1207
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 1: Josh came back, you know, because we look at his

1208
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 1: failures as a head coach and we have to separate

1209
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 1: that from his successes as an offensive coordinator. And he

1210
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 1: dealt with the greatest of all time and the great

1211
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 1: and had a great relationship with Tom Brady. It wasn't

1212
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 1: like contentious, don't talk to me, I already know you don't,

1213
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 1: can't teach me anything. They got along really well. And then,

1214
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 1: as much as we know that it wasn't as good

1215
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 1: as some people thought that first year with Mac.

1216
00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 4: Yeah it was fine.

1217
00:52:57,800 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 1: That was fine.

1218
00:52:58,840 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 5: Fine, it's fine.

1219
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 1: Thing that books me though, that's not scares me, But

1220
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 1: that's because Mac wasn't good, right.

1221
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 5: The thing that scares me.

1222
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 6: Is everybody else not good enough that he's coached either

1223
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,359
Speaker 6: except for Brady because he's never really had a great

1224
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 6: offense with that I know.

1225
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 7: But he was also the quarterback by Brady maccas had.

1226
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:17,360
Speaker 6: What about when he was a offensive coordinator for the

1227
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 6: Rams and they had a historically bad offense, the bad situation.

1228
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 5: The other thing that scares me with him is the

1229
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:25,800
Speaker 5: Raiders players this year. The reports coming out that they're like,

1230
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 5: we have this old offense that they don't want to modernize.

1231
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 5: They want to keep doing it the way they've been

1232
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 5: doing it for.

1233
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:32,799
Speaker 4: Twenty where they said about him here when he left.

1234
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,880
Speaker 6: Okay, that's the people that that's you know again, I

1235
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:39,439
Speaker 6: don't often talk to people because you know, people don't

1236
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 6: talk to me. But that's what they said about They

1237
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:44,919
Speaker 6: needed to That's why they tried to change things.

1238
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:48,919
Speaker 4: But they didn't do it right. I was poor judge,

1239
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 4: but that's why they wanted to change.

1240
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:54,240
Speaker 1: But your offense is your quarterback. So weren't there reports

1241
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 1: that Josh McDaniels really like Lamar Jackson when that draft

1242
00:53:58,160 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 1: came out.

1243
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 6: And can you but you imagine all those guys like

1244
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 6: Baker Mayfield. He liked Baker Mayfield, Like, we don't just

1245
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 6: put the one that won the MVP, but you also

1246
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:10,440
Speaker 6: liked Tim Tebow.

1247
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:11,399
Speaker 4: I don't. I don't.

1248
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 7: I don't love it like with josh I don't. But

1249
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 7: at the same time, I think with Girod Mayo, I

1250
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 7: do actually like a lot about Gerrod Mayo. I love

1251
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 7: a lot about you, and I think that he is

1252
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 7: what we talked to him, you know, in the offseason

1253
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 7: after the draft, and I remember him talking about how

1254
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 7: more involved he was with the draft. He actually went

1255
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 7: out to Oregon and had a private meeting with Christian

1256
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 7: Gonzalez before the draft that nobody knew about, and those

1257
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 7: types of things, and just listening to him talk about

1258
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 7: the college game, like he he recognizes I think where

1259
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 7: the winds are blowing in football, that football is now

1260
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:54,360
Speaker 7: about speed, it's about space, It's about scheming guys into space.

1261
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 7: Like even though he's a defensive minded head coach, I

1262
00:54:57,160 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 7: think that he would still have that that to be

1263
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 7: innovative on the offensive side of the ball and to

1264
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:06,360
Speaker 7: recognize that. So maybe josh isn't the right guy for

1265
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 7: him to be the coordinator. But the only reason why

1266
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 7: I came up with Joshua just because he's not going

1267
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 7: anywhere if you hire the Josh is definitely a candidate,

1268
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:15,880
Speaker 7: if you hire the next Brian Dable or something like that.

1269
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 7: In a year or two, he's just gonna get a

1270
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:19,479
Speaker 7: head coaching job and then where you So look.

1271
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 6: At it this way too, okay, So like this is

1272
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:24,840
Speaker 6: why you can't dismiss Josh and stuff like this. Gered

1273
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 6: Mayo has been an NFL coach since I think nineteen.

1274
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:29,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, five years, I know.

1275
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 6: So what does he have to fall back on to

1276
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 6: put a staff together? If everybody goes right and then Josh.

1277
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 4: Comes back with Briscilla with McK lombardy.

1278
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 6: Maybe that's a way to get a staff sort of compiled.

1279
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:47,280
Speaker 6: But I don't think it's ideal. I don't think it's ideal.

1280
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 6: And it's not anti Josh because you guys know, you

1281
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:52,840
Speaker 6: all know I like Josh Suaw. I just feel like

1282
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:57,360
Speaker 6: it might be time for a fresh offense too, like

1283
00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 6: just in general, let's just do things differently, I understand.

1284
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:03,799
Speaker 1: But that also means a fresh quarterback too, right, Well,

1285
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 1: I don't.

1286
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:07,800
Speaker 4: Think that's I agree with you. I thought that was

1287
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:10,760
Speaker 4: like a call him deductive proofs.

1288
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 5: And my son's geometry had to help him.

1289
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:15,400
Speaker 6: The other night, given new quarterback, I thought that was

1290
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 6: I am one hundred percent with you with the new offense,

1291
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:19,800
Speaker 6: and I would love to see them do it. I

1292
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 6: just it has to be the head coach then, because

1293
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 6: the guy's just gonna leave and you're gonna be in

1294
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:26,880
Speaker 6: the same situation that you were with Mac where you

1295
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:28,280
Speaker 6: have no offensive coordinator.

1296
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:31,279
Speaker 7: And so then if if it is the head coach,

1297
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:33,319
Speaker 7: and that's all well and good. If I if I'm

1298
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 7: the crafts if they hire let's just use Ben Johnson

1299
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:38,759
Speaker 7: because that's the name everybody wants to talk about. They

1300
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 7: hire Ben Johnson, I'm going to Gid Mayo and I'm saying,

1301
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 7: we didn't forget about you. We're gonna make you defensive coordinator,

1302
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 7: and we're gonna pay you like a defensive coordinator, and

1303
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 7: you're it's gonna be your show on that side of

1304
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 7: the ball. I just I want Mayo here to run

1305
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 7: the defense because I think the defense is still a

1306
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 7: really good defensive system and I don't want to uproot

1307
00:56:58,000 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 7: the defensive system and change it.

1308
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 4: Compell like that. I like that too.

1309
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:02,759
Speaker 5: I like keeping him around. You get a new co coach,

1310
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 5: new offensive.

1311
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's not easy, and I'm not like it probably

1312
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 6: sounds like I'm being critical of some of the suggestions,

1313
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 6: and I don't.

1314
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 4: I don't mean to be.

1315
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 6: It's not an easy situation that the Crafts are going

1316
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 6: to be in. I do think it's hard to take

1317
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 6: twenty plus years of something that works so well and

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Speaker 6: then have to figure out do I tweak it?

1319
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Speaker 4: Do I change it? Do I blow it up?

1320
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Speaker 6: And start all over that what pieces to it? It's

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Speaker 6: not easy to figure out exactly what the course of actions.

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Speaker 5: What are the important pieces that would be best?

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I would also just love if I was the

1325
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Speaker 7: Crafts and if Macro was like seriously in consideration to

1326
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Speaker 7: stick around as GM Director of Player Personnel. You got

1327
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Speaker 7: to call him into the office and be like, all right,

1328
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 7: show me your draft, right, Like what in twenty twenty two?

1329
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Speaker 7: What would you have done if it was because this right?

1330
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 7: Because if twenty twenty two he said, oh, you know,

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Speaker 7: I would have taken cold strange and I'm out right,

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Speaker 7: you know, you have to prove to me that that

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Speaker 7: was actually a bit.

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Speaker 1: I wonder if that conversation hasn't already taken place, because

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Speaker 1: if you're the craft aren't you like curious as hell

1336
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Speaker 1: to have known who wanted who the last four years.

1337
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Speaker 5: The code red, you know, especially that twenty twenty tour.

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00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 5: I mean that one has been.

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Speaker 4: Like we talked about, we take him down to his

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Speaker 4: dark place. No, no, thank you, Please don't go there.

1341
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Speaker 5: Every time I go to that like Pro Football Reference

1342
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 5: where it's Patriots drafts history happy and they have like

1343
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Speaker 5: the weighted averages of like their career.

1344
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Speaker 7: Like that's like, oh, missus in a sunk place again.

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Speaker 4: I tried Pro Football Reference. We tried to pull him out,

1346
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Speaker 4: got a draft.

1347
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 12: Good.

1348
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 4: He's surfing those sites again.

1349
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's a fascinating conversation. And you know, I

1350
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Speaker 1: imagine a lot of people. I can't believe you're having

1351
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Speaker 1: this conversation with most it's listen, it is.

1352
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Speaker 7: Out yeah, I mean two and eight guys.

1353
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is out there. And I think I think

1354
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 1: it's appropriate to be just speculating. I mean, and that's

1355
00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 1: all we're doing, by the way, Yeah, we're just speculating.

1356
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 1: We don't have any inside information. I say that before

1357
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 1: when we get into these topics, we're just going by

1358
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 1: what everybody knows. We have nothing inside anyway, but we

1359
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 1: do have Paul's launch, So we're gonna take a break

1360
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Speaker 1: and we'll be right back after that.

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Speaker 4: What's up everybody?

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Speaker 8: Patriots Special team captain Matthew Slater addressed the media yesterday.

1436
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:31,480
Speaker 1: Let's take a listen to what he had to say.

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01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:34,960
Speaker 10: Probably do a lot of self scalt, try to get

1438
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:38,320
Speaker 10: myself physically as ready as I can to finish the

1439
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:39,000
Speaker 10: season a strong.

1440
01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:41,040
Speaker 4: Do you approach it like a time to get away?

1441
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:44,240
Speaker 1: Or is it like staying here and oh no no.

1442
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 10: With four kids and two of them in school, there's

1443
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:47,479
Speaker 10: no time to get away.

1444
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:51,040
Speaker 17: So yeah, do you feel like the FIB week is

1445
01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 17: coming out a good time for you guys, given you know,

1446
01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:56,200
Speaker 17: you guys are two an a can refresh and refocus.

1447
01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:58,920
Speaker 10: Yeah, I think it's a good time for a lot

1448
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:02,480
Speaker 10: of reasons what you mentioned, and I j I just

1449
01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 10: think you know, we've played a lot of football and

1450
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:09,320
Speaker 10: guys are certainly feeling it. So it's good physically, it's

1451
01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:12,400
Speaker 10: good mentally with the way things have gone this year,

1452
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:14,280
Speaker 10: so hopefully we can make the most of it.

1453
01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:16,200
Speaker 17: We'll get to you the confidence that you guys can

1454
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:18,720
Speaker 17: come back, you know, stronger and you know, finish out

1455
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:19,400
Speaker 17: the season strong.

1456
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:20,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean faith.

1457
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:23,680
Speaker 10: I mean, uh, if you don't have faith in what

1458
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:25,520
Speaker 10: you're doing, why are you coming in here every day?

1459
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Speaker 10: And for me, you know, I still have faith in

1460
01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:32,080
Speaker 10: the people in this building, our process, the people leading us.

1461
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:34,520
Speaker 1: I have faith in a lot of things.

1462
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 10: So sometimes you have to have faith even when you

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01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:40,800
Speaker 10: haven't seen the results that you would have liked.

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Speaker 1: I mean, but that's that's life, right, So it's just

1465
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:44,520
Speaker 1: part of it.

1466
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Speaker 6: What's your advice fellow captain, team leader, the a guy

1467
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:49,640
Speaker 6: like Mac going through what is going through right now.

1468
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Speaker 10: The questions whether or not just remain as positive as

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01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:57,160
Speaker 10: possible and ignore the voices and opinions that are not

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Speaker 10: gonna impact your day to day living, because Lord knows,

1471
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Speaker 10: there are a lot of them out there, but most

1472
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Speaker 10: of them don't really matter. So be positive, continue to

1473
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:10,440
Speaker 10: say true to yourself, your process, and that that goes for.

1474
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Speaker 1: All of us, not just him.

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Speaker 9: When you have.

1476
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Speaker 18: In Germany where you come home and everyone's talking about

1477
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:21,480
Speaker 18: the quarterback, quarterback quarterback as one of your leaders, kind

1478
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:23,680
Speaker 18: of thoughts that you have on that or is it

1479
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Speaker 18: one of those things, like you said, where you just

1480
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Speaker 18: tell everybody to just keep going.

1481
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Speaker 10: Yeah, well, look, I've never been the quarterback, so I'm

1482
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:33,800
Speaker 10: I don't want to speak for him. I can under

1483
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:36,400
Speaker 10: I can see and understand how that would be very challenging,

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Speaker 10: especially with the way things have gone this year for

1485
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Speaker 10: our football team. So again, I think, as much as

1486
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Speaker 10: you can, you have to limit those voices and you know,

1487
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:50,120
Speaker 10: continue to take advantage of the opportunities that lie ahead

1488
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:54,400
Speaker 10: of you. You know, live your professional experience with a

1489
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Speaker 10: lot of gratitude, and that should be the foundation from

1490
01:04:57,840 --> 01:04:59,720
Speaker 10: which we're all working as gratitude. You know, we have

1491
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:01,760
Speaker 10: a great opportunity to play a game we love, so

1492
01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:03,400
Speaker 10: never lose sight of that.

1493
01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:05,480
Speaker 1: And you know it's challenging.

1494
01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 10: I'm sure it's challenging for all of us, but you know,

1495
01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:08,880
Speaker 10: just gotta keep going.

1496
01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:10,040
Speaker 4: Opportunity.

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Speaker 1: How much do you kind of.

1498
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Speaker 4: You kind of make a season?

1499
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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 10: Absolutely, I mean, look, that's the exciting thing. You know.

1501
01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:23,080
Speaker 10: You hope you can uh change the narrative of our

1502
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:25,720
Speaker 10: of our story and and how that story ends. And

1503
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:28,640
Speaker 10: you know, we we have a say in that, which

1504
01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:31,640
Speaker 10: is a beautiful thing. So hopefully we can do the

1505
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:34,800
Speaker 10: things that we need to do to start getting some

1506
01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:36,840
Speaker 10: of the outcomes we'd like to see. And you know,

1507
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:38,440
Speaker 10: you know, you never know what can happen. So we

1508
01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:39,840
Speaker 10: just got like I said earlier, we just got to

1509
01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:40,800
Speaker 10: keep the faith, keep going.

1510
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:46,040
Speaker 5: Is it important guys just photograph?

1511
01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:50,320
Speaker 10: I can't speak for the team, it's not, but it's

1512
01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:53,360
Speaker 10: not important for me. I just come here and do

1513
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:55,760
Speaker 10: my job, keep my head down. And you know, those

1514
01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:59,120
Speaker 10: are decisions that I'm not involved in and and they

1515
01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:02,240
Speaker 10: don't impact you know, what I have to do personally.

1516
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:04,840
Speaker 3: Leaderships.

1517
01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:11,200
Speaker 1: You know, picked up a lot.

1518
01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:14,600
Speaker 10: You know, I Uh, I think eventually I I'll look

1519
01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:17,520
Speaker 10: back upon this season and be grateful for Uh. I've

1520
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:19,920
Speaker 10: said it, you know, several times throughout the course of

1521
01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:22,920
Speaker 10: the season. But you know, it's easy to be a

1522
01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:25,280
Speaker 10: front runner and leave when things are going well, and

1523
01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:28,680
Speaker 10: uh to encourage and build up and lift up and

1524
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:31,480
Speaker 10: and work hard when things are going well. But when

1525
01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:34,960
Speaker 10: they're not, I think it really tests your character and

1526
01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:38,280
Speaker 10: it tests your conviction. And you know, I think the

1527
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:41,080
Speaker 10: things that I say I believe in and want to

1528
01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:45,120
Speaker 10: live out, you know, they've been challenging to do this year,

1529
01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:50,080
Speaker 10: you know, staying positive, UH, continue to encourage. But I'm

1530
01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:52,800
Speaker 10: learning what that looks like under these types of circumstances.

1531
01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:55,040
Speaker 10: And I think it's gonna serve me well, you know,

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Speaker 10: in the future as a husband, as a father, because

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Speaker 10: they envision it, their twists and turn.

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Speaker 4: And Now great moments in.

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Speaker 1: History. Maybe I'm over.

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Speaker 5: That's going around too, that's going around too. What the

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01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:04,520
Speaker 5: picture he postedfuge? He posted a picture and it was

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01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:07,120
Speaker 5: him like smiling and if you look close, he was

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01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:10,280
Speaker 5: at Giallette Stag. Was this Brady Brady? The picture he

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Speaker 5: posted was him from the Tampa.

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Speaker 4: I didn't I didn't look at the thing.

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Speaker 1: I know you didn't.

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Speaker 4: I was asking, was on part of this thing printed

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Speaker 4: in more trees than anybody I've ever seen? Will you

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Speaker 4: file that right?

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Speaker 6: We're just talking about how you know when when we're

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01:08:28,120 --> 01:08:31,400
Speaker 6: doing the show, we should reference your phone and just

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01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:31,720
Speaker 6: look on.

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01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:39,559
Speaker 1: Radio the animal there, Eric think about that. My second

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Speaker 1: question is whether you guys think that's another great moment

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01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:49,400
Speaker 1: from all right back here and Patriots Unfiltered. We're joined

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Speaker 1: by Alex Francisco because it's PI Day. How you doing, Alex?

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Speaker 19: I'm doing okay?

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01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:55,639
Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 19: Good? Not great?

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01:08:56,920 --> 01:08:57,599
Speaker 4: She's here early.

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01:08:57,760 --> 01:09:01,320
Speaker 5: Honestly, I don't know about I I'm.

1578
01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:02,760
Speaker 19: Like two and a half hours of traffic. We need

1579
01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:05,640
Speaker 19: Where are you coming from West Springfield?

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01:09:06,360 --> 01:09:07,280
Speaker 1: What's going on over there?

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01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:11,640
Speaker 4: Normally would be like two hours on the big Is

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01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:12,599
Speaker 4: the Big E happening?

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Speaker 19: If you told me there was a tech car pile

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01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:17,840
Speaker 19: up on the mass Pike today, I would believe you.

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01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:18,639
Speaker 19: With what the traffic?

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01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:20,400
Speaker 1: Really, where's everybody going?

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Speaker 8: I hope everybody's demonstrators blocking the bridge for calling for

1588
01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:25,439
Speaker 8: a ceasefire the.

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Speaker 1: Bu bridge, right, yeah, but that's not affecting her.

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01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:33,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, crap, that's that's my alma mater. The first thing

1591
01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:33,800
Speaker 4: that puffed up.

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01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:36,639
Speaker 19: If you're listening, the first.

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Speaker 6: Thing I thought is I wouldn't have been able to

1594
01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:39,519
Speaker 6: go to class because that was the bridge I had

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Speaker 6: to get to class over.

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01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:42,680
Speaker 5: It feels like you pull those days like once every

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01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:44,439
Speaker 5: two months, all of a sudden, it's just a log

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Speaker 5: jam on.

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Speaker 7: Next week should be better because everybody's off for Thanksgiving

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Speaker 7: one Almost every.

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Speaker 20: Month, Duce gets a text, Heyduce, my e t A is.

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Speaker 5: Three hours from now.

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Speaker 7: I think I have a bad You need to closer.

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01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:01,240
Speaker 5: I know you just have a commute off.

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01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:03,960
Speaker 1: Paul and Alex nothing, So I'm gonna put you on

1606
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:06,720
Speaker 1: the spots like Alex. In the first half of the show.

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01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:09,240
Speaker 1: We did some mid season awards. I don't want to

1608
01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:13,080
Speaker 1: go through every category, but give me your best play

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01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:14,760
Speaker 1: so far.

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01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:19,840
Speaker 20: It might be one of them during the Eagles game,

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01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:23,439
Speaker 20: but I think just the implications of Jasicki's game winner

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01:10:23,439 --> 01:10:25,479
Speaker 20: against the Bills this spot.

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Speaker 19: I would say that one.

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01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:32,000
Speaker 1: Okay, and give me your biggest surprise player not including

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01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:34,960
Speaker 1: the Mario Douglas and your biggest disappointment.

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Speaker 19: Okay.

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01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:39,840
Speaker 20: Maybe this is recency bias, because Tavia, I think has

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01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:43,439
Speaker 20: been He was pretty well like stringing some really good

1619
01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:48,600
Speaker 20: games together, all this craziness.

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01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:52,559
Speaker 6: Yeah, so's man's playing football, nodding in approval.

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01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:59,719
Speaker 19: Yes, disappointing. I mean juju, I would say another one.

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Speaker 5: That good job, Al, you nailed it.

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Speaker 4: You're nailing it.

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Speaker 1: Good, good, stuffy among them. Yeah, so we did that.

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Speaker 7: Okay, I got one more. How much did the Celtics

1626
01:11:09,360 --> 01:11:12,200
Speaker 7: miss market? Smart at nine and two zero?

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01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:16,120
Speaker 5: Not at all? I like this guy, what is it? Drew?

1628
01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:20,599
Speaker 4: It's just true. It's just true, unless you're.

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Speaker 19: I loved Marcus.

1630
01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:24,720
Speaker 4: But I mean, we haven't had.

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01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:27,400
Speaker 19: I supposed to do.

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01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:30,080
Speaker 7: We haven't had a chance to talk any Celtics really because.

1633
01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:31,920
Speaker 1: You know, this is the Patriots.

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01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:34,519
Speaker 5: Celtics dot com.

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01:11:34,680 --> 01:11:35,160
Speaker 4: I mean, we.

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01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:38,640
Speaker 7: Have to talk about a good team in town. So

1637
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:40,639
Speaker 7: we talked about this yesterday.

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01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:43,960
Speaker 1: It's going to start a new podcast, Catch ten. It's

1639
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:47,559
Speaker 1: gonna have the All ten View of basketball, start a new.

1640
01:11:47,520 --> 01:11:49,559
Speaker 4: Thing that actually does exist, does it? It does.

1641
01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:52,400
Speaker 1: It's a small board that.

1642
01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:54,960
Speaker 4: View for Don't ask me. I don't know.

1643
01:11:55,160 --> 01:11:56,599
Speaker 1: They're all in the bunch.

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Speaker 20: That's been really trendy on Twitter though, amongst like sports

1645
01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:00,280
Speaker 20: social media teams.

1646
01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:04,000
Speaker 5: Have you guys seen all the the hockey team camp.

1647
01:12:04,840 --> 01:12:07,479
Speaker 1: We're going to have that too. From the lighthouse.

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01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:10,040
Speaker 4: We need somebody to highlight.

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01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:14,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's go to the phone.

1650
01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:15,920
Speaker 7: Did you bring did you bring this up to Maz

1651
01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:17,479
Speaker 7: about his his little.

1652
01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:21,960
Speaker 1: Put another one out? I forgot. I have to me

1653
01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:22,280
Speaker 1: and him?

1654
01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:23,599
Speaker 4: Did me and him have beef?

1655
01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:26,200
Speaker 5: Now he's starting to he's starting in frinch upon Evans.

1656
01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:29,360
Speaker 7: You need to get out of get off of film. Twitter,

1657
01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:30,960
Speaker 7: go back to complaining about.

1658
01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:31,519
Speaker 4: How did he get the one?

1659
01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:34,200
Speaker 5: He was highlighting windows, he was highlighting open receivers.

1660
01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:37,840
Speaker 7: Somebody said he's a gadget guy. Somebody clearly does the

1661
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:40,519
Speaker 7: editing for him. Some interurn was like, I'll do it, Towny.

1662
01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:43,439
Speaker 1: Let's get to the phones. We gotta hurry because it's

1663
01:12:43,479 --> 01:12:46,639
Speaker 1: picks day. Eldridge is in North Carolina. What's up? Eldred?

1664
01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:49,560
Speaker 9: Heyling?

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01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:51,200
Speaker 1: All right, yep, hey fella.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, with you complete duo.

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01:12:56,600 --> 01:12:59,880
Speaker 9: I don't want Mayo. If the coach Daniel come in

1668
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:02,800
Speaker 9: and get a new quarterback and get a new office

1669
01:13:02,840 --> 01:13:06,400
Speaker 9: calling like Ben Jonson or Banry or whoever, you know,

1670
01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:08,559
Speaker 9: if he had to go to a college coach, get

1671
01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:11,920
Speaker 9: them too, just rebuild it over and just start from there.

1672
01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:14,720
Speaker 9: Because to go take another five years, so you might

1673
01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:15,360
Speaker 9: well just do it.

1674
01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:18,240
Speaker 1: Okay, I would write the first time completely redo.

1675
01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:20,920
Speaker 4: I would agree with that, and I don't think it

1676
01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:22,080
Speaker 4: has to take that long though.

1677
01:13:22,160 --> 01:13:25,040
Speaker 6: I think if you do it well, get some thanks,

1678
01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:27,720
Speaker 6: some some smart picks, and some good fortune, I think

1679
01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:28,479
Speaker 6: you can turn it around.

1680
01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:30,120
Speaker 5: Do you guys know the story of how Robert found

1681
01:13:30,280 --> 01:13:31,800
Speaker 5: Pete Carroll? Like, how did that come about?

1682
01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:34,920
Speaker 1: They did? They were looking at a lot of people

1683
01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:37,439
Speaker 1: and they talked to Bill Walsh, and Bill Walsh was

1684
01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:41,040
Speaker 1: a big advocate, and I think they listened to Bill Walsh.

1685
01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:45,519
Speaker 4: I just learned something. Yeah, so I never heard that story.

1686
01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:48,879
Speaker 7: Tom Pelisaro does that annual list of like rising head.

1687
01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:49,479
Speaker 4: Coach in candidate.

1688
01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:52,360
Speaker 7: Three Patriots coaches on that, so he did it. It

1689
01:13:52,439 --> 01:13:55,040
Speaker 7: came out yesterday. So here are some of the offensive names,

1690
01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:59,080
Speaker 7: because we're all on the offense. Thomas Brown from the Panthers,

1691
01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:02,560
Speaker 7: who's been on this list before. I think I'm not

1692
01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:05,559
Speaker 7: sure if I'm hiring head offensive coaches from the Panthers.

1693
01:14:06,240 --> 01:14:08,280
Speaker 6: A guy that they've gone back and forth with Reich

1694
01:14:08,439 --> 01:14:10,680
Speaker 6: who's calling the plays and now it's back to Raik.

1695
01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:14,120
Speaker 7: Yes, this is a good one, though, Brian Callahan from

1696
01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:15,200
Speaker 7: the Cincinnati Bengals.

1697
01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:18,439
Speaker 4: Good offensive line guy. Yeah, who I think.

1698
01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:20,960
Speaker 7: Deserves a lot of credit for for their offense is

1699
01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:23,760
Speaker 7: on this list. Luke Getzi with the Bears, which I

1700
01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:26,599
Speaker 7: think is hilarious. I wouldn't touch that with a ten

1701
01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:31,080
Speaker 7: foot poll. Ben Johnson from the Lions obviously, Brian Johnson

1702
01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:34,880
Speaker 7: from the Eagles, quarterbacks guy from the Eagles.

1703
01:14:34,920 --> 01:14:38,840
Speaker 5: A lot of basic name guys on this list, John Callahan.

1704
01:14:38,600 --> 01:14:40,959
Speaker 4: Mike Kafka from the Giants.

1705
01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:46,880
Speaker 6: So William Smith, our very own Megan O'Brien and has

1706
01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:50,720
Speaker 6: been texting me a little bit about Kafka. She you know,

1707
01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:53,439
Speaker 6: went to school with him and she's very high on

1708
01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:54,439
Speaker 6: Mike Kafka.

1709
01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:59,720
Speaker 7: Yep, w w's we'll scroll past Grod Mayo on the list. Uh,

1710
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:02,280
Speaker 7: Kellen Moore from the Chargers.

1711
01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:04,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, I was wondering about Belichick if he, you know,

1712
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:07,120
Speaker 6: like that whole Chargers thing, like we're Kellen Moore would

1713
01:15:07,160 --> 01:15:07,400
Speaker 6: fit in.

1714
01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:09,640
Speaker 4: So this is an interesting one too.

1715
01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:13,559
Speaker 7: Drew Petsing from the Cardinals, the Cardinals offensive coordinator who

1716
01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:18,599
Speaker 7: has somehow made that offense from what my guy, somehow

1717
01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:23,680
Speaker 7: made that offense relevant here. So here's another really big

1718
01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:25,360
Speaker 7: name that that a lot of people are starting to

1719
01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:29,360
Speaker 7: pay attention to. Now, Bobby Sloak from the Texans, the

1720
01:15:29,439 --> 01:15:32,519
Speaker 7: offensive coordinator from the Texans, who obviously has C. J.

1721
01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:33,400
Speaker 4: Stroud playing.

1722
01:15:33,800 --> 01:15:36,679
Speaker 6: And I saw something on on the Twitter machine yesterday

1723
01:15:36,760 --> 01:15:40,400
Speaker 6: that had that old Washington coaching staff and it was

1724
01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:46,559
Speaker 6: you know, Shanahan, Mike McDaniel, there was someone else McVeigh

1725
01:15:46,840 --> 01:15:49,160
Speaker 6: and Bobby Slowick like they.

1726
01:15:49,080 --> 01:15:50,240
Speaker 4: Were all in the staff together.

1727
01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:56,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, Matt was his face, so tight pants, young guy

1728
01:15:56,320 --> 01:15:58,120
Speaker 6: in tight pants, like Felger says, that's what.

1729
01:15:58,280 --> 01:15:58,800
Speaker 4: That's what, that's what.

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01:15:59,439 --> 01:16:03,160
Speaker 1: So that's Bbby Slowan's It's just so funny though that

1731
01:16:03,200 --> 01:16:06,360
Speaker 1: we're so just shaking head coach starve that. You know,

1732
01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:09,760
Speaker 1: an offensive coordinator has some success and all of a

1733
01:16:09,760 --> 01:16:11,840
Speaker 1: sudden he should be a head coach. You know, it's

1734
01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:13,040
Speaker 1: a totally different job.

1735
01:16:13,439 --> 01:16:15,160
Speaker 6: So it doesn't mean it's going to be a success now,

1736
01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:17,320
Speaker 6: I know, But that's how it works. You're coordinator, you

1737
01:16:17,360 --> 01:16:19,200
Speaker 6: have success, and you become a head coach.

1738
01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:22,120
Speaker 7: So Frank Smith from the Dolphins, he's the Dolphins offense

1739
01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:23,320
Speaker 7: to your.

1740
01:16:23,280 --> 01:16:27,720
Speaker 4: Category Johnson, Brian Johnson.

1741
01:16:27,520 --> 01:16:30,320
Speaker 7: Brian, I think you guys will know this guy. Press

1742
01:16:30,360 --> 01:16:33,120
Speaker 7: Taylor from the Jaguars, offensive coordinator for the Jaguars, and

1743
01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:35,679
Speaker 7: the last one here I think is also interesting because

1744
01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:39,479
Speaker 7: I believe he was here for a minute Shane Waldron.

1745
01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:41,080
Speaker 1: A minute.

1746
01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:45,040
Speaker 7: Yes, yeah, so those those are the offensive coaches on

1747
01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:50,280
Speaker 7: that list, but obviously we know Ben Johnson, Brian Callahan

1748
01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:50,920
Speaker 7: from the Bengals.

1749
01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:54,400
Speaker 4: I think is interesting and slow I think is is

1750
01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:55,160
Speaker 4: really interesting.

1751
01:16:55,880 --> 01:16:58,080
Speaker 5: Okay, what's interesting because all those guys would be first

1752
01:16:58,080 --> 01:17:00,519
Speaker 5: time head coaches and the two guys that have hired

1753
01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:01,920
Speaker 5: are both second time coaches.

1754
01:17:02,920 --> 01:17:05,720
Speaker 7: Yeah, correct, true, but where was Pee before this?

1755
01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:09,479
Speaker 1: Jeffs Jets really let them make their mistake somewhere else

1756
01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:11,480
Speaker 1: and then hire them. It's could be a philosophy.

1757
01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:14,880
Speaker 6: They were ten and one in ninety four and finished

1758
01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:16,840
Speaker 6: ten and six and missed the playoffs, I believe, or

1759
01:17:17,400 --> 01:17:19,360
Speaker 6: if they didn't, if they made the playoffs, that got

1760
01:17:19,439 --> 01:17:20,160
Speaker 6: knocked out right away.

1761
01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:20,960
Speaker 4: But they were ten and one.

1762
01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:22,479
Speaker 5: One of the only reasons I remember I had his

1763
01:17:22,680 --> 01:17:25,240
Speaker 5: football card, like I just remember it. Pete Carroll is

1764
01:17:25,240 --> 01:17:27,760
Speaker 5: one of my you know, just yeah, remember seeing him

1765
01:17:27,800 --> 01:17:31,000
Speaker 5: in the Jets. Nimm Let's go to John in l

1766
01:17:31,080 --> 01:17:32,360
Speaker 5: A on the Ace ticket hot Line.

1767
01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:36,840
Speaker 1: Except John Johnny guy, all right, how are you hanging in?

1768
01:17:36,920 --> 01:17:37,080
Speaker 12: Man?

1769
01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:38,519
Speaker 10: So?

1770
01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:42,920
Speaker 21: Uh, I've been thinking it's way past time to start

1771
01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:46,320
Speaker 21: collecting talents. I'm like, I know that phrase from early

1772
01:17:46,400 --> 01:17:49,800
Speaker 21: in the Dynasty, and that's great, but I think we

1773
01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:52,800
Speaker 21: can all agree with time select talents. And I keep

1774
01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:54,760
Speaker 21: thinking about the It's like what you guys are just

1775
01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:56,679
Speaker 21: talking about before Paul had.

1776
01:17:56,560 --> 01:18:00,880
Speaker 4: To eat, expect more from.

1777
01:18:01,360 --> 01:18:04,519
Speaker 21: Me, Like, oh, this guy was available, but actually, like,

1778
01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:09,080
Speaker 21: these are the guys that like to you guy writers

1779
01:18:09,160 --> 01:18:11,800
Speaker 21: thought that's probably who we could take. That's the Patriots

1780
01:18:11,880 --> 01:18:15,160
Speaker 21: guy in the first couple of rounds, and combining that,

1781
01:18:15,320 --> 01:18:21,120
Speaker 21: the core could be Debo, George Pickens, Keith Jacobe, Devin Lloyd,

1782
01:18:21,400 --> 01:18:25,320
Speaker 21: Juwan Bentley, Christian Moore, Yon White, Kyle Duggar, Christian Gonzales,

1783
01:18:25,520 --> 01:18:26,920
Speaker 21: Jonathan Jones, Michael Lender.

1784
01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:29,280
Speaker 9: I mean, this is not like high in the sky.

1785
01:18:29,439 --> 01:18:31,960
Speaker 21: This is like easily what it could have been if

1786
01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:33,920
Speaker 21: Robert Kraft had said, you know what, let's not have

1787
01:18:34,360 --> 01:18:37,800
Speaker 21: a a scouting department. Let's literally just go with what

1788
01:18:38,400 --> 01:18:40,360
Speaker 21: the mock draft website say.

1789
01:18:40,920 --> 01:18:44,800
Speaker 4: And I think that's because we're all genius. We're all

1790
01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:47,000
Speaker 4: smarter than everybody else. I'm wondering if.

1791
01:18:46,840 --> 01:18:50,439
Speaker 21: You guys think that's a good I mean, obviously that's

1792
01:18:50,479 --> 01:18:53,679
Speaker 21: a better core, but is that a good enough core

1793
01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:56,840
Speaker 21: if you get the quarterback, which obviously is a huge gift.

1794
01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:03,320
Speaker 5: I mean, I'd have to look at the whole core mentality.

1795
01:19:03,400 --> 01:19:05,600
Speaker 4: It sounded like a bunch of names, like I don't know, I.

1796
01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:08,720
Speaker 1: Think they're all good players, but I think mixed in

1797
01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:14,120
Speaker 1: there you need a couple difference makers, you know, I

1798
01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:14,479
Speaker 1: think that.

1799
01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:18,800
Speaker 7: But I think what his general point, though I actually

1800
01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:20,800
Speaker 7: kind of agree with, which I think is what his

1801
01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:24,000
Speaker 7: general point is is yeah, sometimes and it's not about us.

1802
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:24,960
Speaker 5: Being smart than the team.

1803
01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:28,240
Speaker 7: I knew you were going to say that, no if

1804
01:19:28,280 --> 01:19:32,040
Speaker 7: he didn't say, But my point is that sometimes I

1805
01:19:32,120 --> 01:19:35,360
Speaker 7: think that teams outsmart themselves and like just what they

1806
01:19:35,400 --> 01:19:37,639
Speaker 7: can say. Like Christian Gonzalez, even though he got hurt,

1807
01:19:37,880 --> 01:19:41,800
Speaker 7: Christian Gonzalez was a consensus top twenty first round pick

1808
01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:44,280
Speaker 7: type of guy. And it's not a mistake that when

1809
01:19:44,320 --> 01:19:46,080
Speaker 7: he got on the field with the Patriots that he

1810
01:19:46,200 --> 01:19:48,760
Speaker 7: looked like he belonged in the NFL right away. And

1811
01:19:48,920 --> 01:19:51,920
Speaker 7: sometimes when you go into the draft and you take

1812
01:19:51,960 --> 01:19:54,439
Speaker 7: your coal strangers and you take these guys off the

1813
01:19:54,479 --> 01:19:57,920
Speaker 7: beaten path, and that there's a reason why nobody had

1814
01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:00,960
Speaker 7: Cold Strange in the first round, and that I think

1815
01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:05,120
Speaker 7: that's sometimes it's especially in the first round, to just

1816
01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:08,800
Speaker 7: go with one of the like consensus top guys, like

1817
01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:11,280
Speaker 7: to forget about the mock drafts, like just even in

1818
01:20:11,439 --> 01:20:13,719
Speaker 7: the league, like around your peers.

1819
01:20:14,240 --> 01:20:14,360
Speaker 1: Uh.

1820
01:20:14,560 --> 01:20:16,479
Speaker 7: And you don't have the rams laughing at you on

1821
01:20:16,640 --> 01:20:19,200
Speaker 7: draft night about drafting a guy three rallies.

1822
01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:21,120
Speaker 1: Did it?

1823
01:20:21,360 --> 01:20:24,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, they were laughing at I don't really think it did.

1824
01:20:24,640 --> 01:20:25,559
Speaker 5: We were laughing at.

1825
01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:29,840
Speaker 1: Us, just laughing all right, John, Thanks, thanks for the

1826
01:20:29,960 --> 01:20:32,439
Speaker 1: coll Let's go to Dan and Florida.

1827
01:20:32,479 --> 01:20:32,639
Speaker 4: Hey.

1828
01:20:32,760 --> 01:20:36,200
Speaker 6: Dan, Hey, you help me go on guy?

1829
01:20:38,479 --> 01:20:39,920
Speaker 22: Hey, So I just want to give you guys my

1830
01:20:40,080 --> 01:20:42,960
Speaker 22: take on the staff. Oh, regards to what you guys

1831
01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:45,920
Speaker 22: were talking about earlier, I think the most appealing and

1832
01:20:46,040 --> 01:20:50,479
Speaker 22: ideal staff going forward would be the clean house in

1833
01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:54,600
Speaker 22: the front office. Bring in Adam Peters. He's very successful

1834
01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:56,679
Speaker 22: with the forty nine ers that obviously, it's just seen

1835
01:20:56,680 --> 01:20:57,280
Speaker 22: the forty nineers have.

1836
01:20:57,320 --> 01:20:59,200
Speaker 12: Put together as stellar roster.

1837
01:21:00,880 --> 01:21:03,360
Speaker 22: I think Mayo should stay, but I don't think he

1838
01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:05,280
Speaker 22: should stay as the head coach. He should definitely stay

1839
01:21:05,320 --> 01:21:09,040
Speaker 22: as the DC. I think that would be great. You

1840
01:21:09,200 --> 01:21:12,120
Speaker 22: bring in Ben Johnson, who I think is one of

1841
01:21:12,200 --> 01:21:16,800
Speaker 22: the top offensive mind is offensive minds out there, and

1842
01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:19,760
Speaker 22: then you have to fire Joe Judge and Camra cor

1843
01:21:19,800 --> 01:21:22,400
Speaker 22: because they spend so much money on special teams and

1844
01:21:22,439 --> 01:21:24,760
Speaker 22: the special teams look like a giant disaster. It looks

1845
01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:27,280
Speaker 22: like a dumpster fire. So those two gotta be out,

1846
01:21:27,320 --> 01:21:29,120
Speaker 22: and they got to find somebody that can replace the

1847
01:21:29,160 --> 01:21:34,200
Speaker 22: special teams. But I think that's the most ideal staff

1848
01:21:34,280 --> 01:21:37,040
Speaker 22: to bring in. If Robert Kraft is very adamant about

1849
01:21:37,120 --> 01:21:39,640
Speaker 22: going back to the Super Bowl, Okay, realistically?

1850
01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:44,400
Speaker 1: Yeah right, thanks for the call. Trent writes in says

1851
01:21:44,479 --> 01:21:48,400
Speaker 1: I'm disgusted with my fellow Patriots fans, and that's some quotes.

1852
01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:50,960
Speaker 1: Bill is the right man to lead the organization through

1853
01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:53,759
Speaker 1: a rebuild. He's done it twice already in two thousand

1854
01:21:53,840 --> 01:21:56,720
Speaker 1: and twenty ten. Mac is clearly not the guy. So

1855
01:21:56,840 --> 01:21:59,120
Speaker 1: wouldn't firing Bill be like cutting off your nose to

1856
01:21:59,160 --> 01:22:01,840
Speaker 1: spite your face? Why fire a proven coach just to

1857
01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:04,639
Speaker 1: hire someone new. What if they draft a true starting

1858
01:22:04,720 --> 01:22:06,880
Speaker 1: quarterback but the quarterback is paired with a coach who

1859
01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:09,840
Speaker 1: isn't a fit to carry Bill's rings. Then we are

1860
01:22:09,960 --> 01:22:12,800
Speaker 1: back at square one again. Firing Bill now would be

1861
01:22:12,880 --> 01:22:15,760
Speaker 1: like firing him after the nine season he lost the team,

1862
01:22:15,800 --> 01:22:18,400
Speaker 1: can't reach the young guys anymore, etc. But the Craft

1863
01:22:18,479 --> 01:22:21,920
Speaker 1: stuck with him and he brought three more championships home. Evan,

1864
01:22:22,280 --> 01:22:25,160
Speaker 1: you are wrong more than anybody. Yesterday you finally admitted

1865
01:22:25,200 --> 01:22:27,920
Speaker 1: the twenty two draft class as a bus, and you

1866
01:22:28,080 --> 01:22:29,920
Speaker 1: even said we all knew it was going to be

1867
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:32,439
Speaker 1: a bus from the start when the draft was fresh.

1868
01:22:32,560 --> 01:22:35,080
Speaker 1: Nobody was pounding the table for Matt grow harder than you.

1869
01:22:35,800 --> 01:22:38,920
Speaker 1: Evan also said tons of teams have traded up to

1870
01:22:38,960 --> 01:22:42,559
Speaker 1: the number one draft spot without tanking or selling the farm. Okay,

1871
01:22:42,720 --> 01:22:43,200
Speaker 1: name three.

1872
01:22:44,040 --> 01:22:48,479
Speaker 7: The Carolina Panthers last year traded up from eight to one. Also,

1873
01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:50,519
Speaker 7: if you really want to know my thoughts on the

1874
01:22:50,560 --> 01:22:53,240
Speaker 7: twenty twenty two draft class, I believe my reaction to

1875
01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:56,280
Speaker 7: the cold strange pick still lives on on Clennis's YouTube.

1876
01:22:56,360 --> 01:22:58,320
Speaker 7: So why do you Why don't you go look at

1877
01:22:58,360 --> 01:23:01,040
Speaker 7: that and maybe revisit your entire email?

1878
01:23:01,240 --> 01:23:01,479
Speaker 1: Thank you?

1879
01:23:03,560 --> 01:23:06,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I'm wrong more than anybody.

1880
01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:11,759
Speaker 6: So first of all, we're comparing the rebuild from going

1881
01:23:11,880 --> 01:23:15,160
Speaker 6: ten and six and losing in the playoffs to being

1882
01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:15,720
Speaker 6: two and eight.

1883
01:23:16,360 --> 01:23:17,120
Speaker 4: That's the same thing.

1884
01:23:17,320 --> 01:23:20,280
Speaker 1: Also, like he did it before, but as long as

1885
01:23:20,400 --> 01:23:22,719
Speaker 1: Tom Brady was still on the team, there was no rebuild.

1886
01:23:22,760 --> 01:23:25,600
Speaker 6: Well, that's the other thing. And I totally recognized that

1887
01:23:26,280 --> 01:23:28,920
Speaker 6: there's a line of demarcation where they had to sort

1888
01:23:28,960 --> 01:23:31,840
Speaker 6: of reset a little bit, and they did have a

1889
01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:34,880
Speaker 6: dip in nine to ten, you know.

1890
01:23:35,080 --> 01:23:36,799
Speaker 1: And then they made the Super Bowl and eleven.

1891
01:23:36,920 --> 01:23:39,559
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean in ten they went fourteen and two,

1892
01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:41,720
Speaker 6: but they just weren't They weren't that good and that

1893
01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:43,439
Speaker 6: was proven out when they got knocked out.

1894
01:23:43,280 --> 01:23:45,479
Speaker 1: Of the playoffs, but worse fourteen and two ever, Right.

1895
01:23:45,479 --> 01:23:48,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, And that's something that like, that's something that like

1896
01:23:48,160 --> 01:23:51,080
Speaker 6: Brady would say, like, you know, he probably would have

1897
01:23:51,200 --> 01:23:53,080
Speaker 6: said that like ten years later when he actually did

1898
01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:56,679
Speaker 6: say it when they were eight. No, I just don't

1899
01:23:56,720 --> 01:24:00,679
Speaker 6: think that that's the same as bottoming out rebuild when Okay,

1900
01:24:00,760 --> 01:24:02,720
Speaker 6: we're not quite as great as we used to be.

1901
01:24:02,760 --> 01:24:05,640
Speaker 6: We're just really good now we're not great. That's not

1902
01:24:05,720 --> 01:24:07,000
Speaker 6: the same as what they're doing now.

1903
01:24:07,200 --> 01:24:08,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think even in two thousand and one

1904
01:24:08,920 --> 01:24:10,920
Speaker 5: that the rebuild, like they were surprised that they had

1905
01:24:11,120 --> 01:24:11,960
Speaker 5: success like they.

1906
01:24:11,960 --> 01:24:14,599
Speaker 6: Did, And can I give you, like my number one

1907
01:24:14,680 --> 01:24:17,839
Speaker 6: reason why I disagree with that you're comparing him rebuilding

1908
01:24:17,880 --> 01:24:20,120
Speaker 6: when he was like fifty as opposed to seventy two,

1909
01:24:21,200 --> 01:24:23,200
Speaker 6: Like it's a big difference. It is, I know what

1910
01:24:23,280 --> 01:24:25,479
Speaker 6: makes me sound like an ageist, and I shouldn't be

1911
01:24:25,560 --> 01:24:28,679
Speaker 6: throwing those kinds of stones since I'm old. But I'm sorry,

1912
01:24:28,720 --> 01:24:30,120
Speaker 6: I don't have a lot of faith in a seventeen

1913
01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:32,120
Speaker 6: year old, seventy two year old guy being able to

1914
01:24:32,160 --> 01:24:32,759
Speaker 6: turn it around.

1915
01:24:33,240 --> 01:24:35,280
Speaker 1: That's a good point, Jared and Rhode Island says, I

1916
01:24:35,360 --> 01:24:37,680
Speaker 1: don't understand the conclusion that Mayo is going to be

1917
01:24:37,720 --> 01:24:39,479
Speaker 1: the de facto head coach of Phil Leaves.

1918
01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:41,320
Speaker 4: I'm not familiar with de facto.

1919
01:24:41,680 --> 01:24:44,120
Speaker 1: I'm not familiar with teams that usually fire the head

1920
01:24:44,160 --> 01:24:46,680
Speaker 1: coach and replace him with an underling. Why is there

1921
01:24:46,760 --> 01:24:49,840
Speaker 1: so much confidence that the logical replacement for Bill is

1922
01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:52,040
Speaker 1: Girawed love the show. Thank you guys for being the

1923
01:24:52,400 --> 01:24:55,200
Speaker 1: one redeeming quality of the twenty twenty three seasons.

1924
01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:56,439
Speaker 4: I didn't say it was logical.

1925
01:24:56,520 --> 01:24:58,640
Speaker 5: Craft's comments last year at the owner meeting was you know,

1926
01:24:59,400 --> 01:25:00,599
Speaker 5: talking about I mean.

1927
01:25:00,800 --> 01:25:03,000
Speaker 4: We think it's kind of what I mean might be

1928
01:25:03,080 --> 01:25:03,599
Speaker 4: a done deal.

1929
01:25:03,760 --> 01:25:04,720
Speaker 5: What are they grooming him for?

1930
01:25:04,840 --> 01:25:05,000
Speaker 1: Then?

1931
01:25:05,120 --> 01:25:07,280
Speaker 5: Like what was all that, like, you know, reaching out

1932
01:25:07,320 --> 01:25:09,320
Speaker 5: to try to keep him here? And I mean, we

1933
01:25:09,400 --> 01:25:12,000
Speaker 5: haven't really seen a noticeable change on the outside so far.

1934
01:25:12,080 --> 01:25:14,680
Speaker 5: It seems exactly like it's been for jirob Mayo. But

1935
01:25:14,760 --> 01:25:16,840
Speaker 5: there was a lot of talk last offseason. I just

1936
01:25:16,880 --> 01:25:19,040
Speaker 5: think you read what the Crafts have been saying over

1937
01:25:19,040 --> 01:25:20,600
Speaker 5: the last couple of years and what they've done to

1938
01:25:20,840 --> 01:25:23,080
Speaker 5: retain Jiraw Mayo, it would seem like they have some

1939
01:25:23,200 --> 01:25:26,160
Speaker 5: plans for him. Maybe it's just a fit some coordinator,

1940
01:25:26,160 --> 01:25:29,040
Speaker 5: which I would probably prefer, but I think, you know,

1941
01:25:29,120 --> 01:25:30,360
Speaker 5: I just I think he's a good guy. I think

1942
01:25:30,360 --> 01:25:32,920
Speaker 5: he has the right temperament to you know, everyone just

1943
01:25:33,000 --> 01:25:34,400
Speaker 5: assumes the next head coach is going to be the

1944
01:25:34,439 --> 01:25:35,800
Speaker 5: one to take you back to the promise land. I

1945
01:25:35,840 --> 01:25:37,720
Speaker 5: don't know if that's necessarily the case. You might just

1946
01:25:37,800 --> 01:25:40,719
Speaker 5: need a guy who rights the ship, who starts the draft,

1947
01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:42,920
Speaker 5: some talent who starts to build a new core, and

1948
01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:45,120
Speaker 5: then unfortunately, maybe that guy has a little bit of

1949
01:25:45,200 --> 01:25:47,120
Speaker 5: a stumble, and then you bring the new guy in

1950
01:25:47,120 --> 01:25:48,519
Speaker 5: and then art the pieces are in place, and now

1951
01:25:48,560 --> 01:25:49,519
Speaker 5: we're going to the next level.

1952
01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:49,800
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1953
01:25:49,880 --> 01:25:53,800
Speaker 7: I also just think with again, like it's easy for

1954
01:25:53,960 --> 01:25:56,920
Speaker 7: us to sit here and say just completely wipe out

1955
01:25:57,120 --> 01:25:59,640
Speaker 7: the last twenty five years of what's been successful and

1956
01:25:59,680 --> 01:26:02,280
Speaker 7: start completely new with a new offense and a new

1957
01:26:02,880 --> 01:26:06,360
Speaker 7: like a whole new philosophy, which is probably what this

1958
01:26:06,479 --> 01:26:09,080
Speaker 7: team needs to an extent. But I do feel like

1959
01:26:09,160 --> 01:26:11,439
Speaker 7: Gid Mayo is kind of like middling it a little

1960
01:26:11,479 --> 01:26:14,000
Speaker 7: bit where he is a younger guy, he is maybe

1961
01:26:14,040 --> 01:26:16,800
Speaker 7: a little bit more savvy with the times, but it's

1962
01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:21,200
Speaker 7: still got some Belichick Patriot dynasty mystique.

1963
01:26:21,280 --> 01:26:23,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, we should probably note this show because I feel

1964
01:26:23,400 --> 01:26:25,360
Speaker 5: like if if when they too, if that's if this

1965
01:26:25,479 --> 01:26:27,720
Speaker 5: word to happen, I think you get like Evansting, we

1966
01:26:27,760 --> 01:26:29,519
Speaker 5: have our thoughts out there already now and how we

1967
01:26:29,560 --> 01:26:30,040
Speaker 5: feel about it.

1968
01:26:30,400 --> 01:26:32,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not ever really a fan of that.

1969
01:26:34,040 --> 01:26:34,920
Speaker 1: You don't like receipts?

1970
01:26:34,960 --> 01:26:37,639
Speaker 4: Snope, Mike's in New York?

1971
01:26:37,680 --> 01:26:38,320
Speaker 1: What's up, Mike?

1972
01:26:38,960 --> 01:26:40,200
Speaker 5: CVS receipts over there?

1973
01:26:41,040 --> 01:26:46,320
Speaker 1: So yeah, like you're in a bayo, are you conducting?

1974
01:26:46,479 --> 01:26:48,760
Speaker 1: Are you you know a traffic cop? Or what are

1975
01:26:48,760 --> 01:26:49,400
Speaker 1: you doing out there?

1976
01:26:49,880 --> 01:26:51,559
Speaker 12: I'm right in New York?

1977
01:26:51,760 --> 01:26:53,080
Speaker 5: Oh, oh that's not a buy.

1978
01:26:53,160 --> 01:26:55,040
Speaker 11: You do you guys think that?

1979
01:26:56,920 --> 01:26:59,760
Speaker 1: What's the probability we think it's gonna happen? Pretty good.

1980
01:27:00,560 --> 01:27:03,280
Speaker 11: Part the reason I asked because that will be one

1981
01:27:03,400 --> 01:27:09,200
Speaker 11: year after Brady retired and Crabb bet on Belichick. It

1982
01:27:09,360 --> 01:27:13,240
Speaker 11: was a bad bet because Brady played for three three

1983
01:27:13,320 --> 01:27:15,320
Speaker 11: more years and won the Super Bowl.

1984
01:27:15,520 --> 01:27:16,559
Speaker 13: I think it was a bad bet.

1985
01:27:16,720 --> 01:27:17,479
Speaker 12: What do you guys say?

1986
01:27:18,320 --> 01:27:19,680
Speaker 4: I don't think it was a bad bet. I think

1987
01:27:19,720 --> 01:27:20,519
Speaker 4: it was a bad result.

1988
01:27:20,720 --> 01:27:22,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think.

1989
01:27:23,560 --> 01:27:25,680
Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, I mean I thanks Mike. I think he's

1990
01:27:25,720 --> 01:27:29,080
Speaker 6: absolutely right. You know they bet on Belichick being around

1991
01:27:29,160 --> 01:27:31,599
Speaker 6: longer than Brady and more effective than Brady.

1992
01:27:32,080 --> 01:27:33,920
Speaker 1: Yep, Yeah, I.

1993
01:27:33,920 --> 01:27:37,519
Speaker 6: Don't think it's like I look back at it to

1994
01:27:37,640 --> 01:27:39,240
Speaker 6: twenty twenty high sight, I don't think it was a

1995
01:27:39,320 --> 01:27:42,400
Speaker 6: dumb move. I think you logically look at a guy

1996
01:27:42,439 --> 01:27:45,040
Speaker 6: in his early forties playing quarterback. How many years is

1997
01:27:45,080 --> 01:27:46,800
Speaker 6: he going to continue to play at a super Bowl level?

1998
01:27:47,360 --> 01:27:50,920
Speaker 6: And the coach had so shown no signs of slowing down,

1999
01:27:51,240 --> 01:27:55,400
Speaker 6: like they gambled on the coach, and I would say

2000
01:27:55,439 --> 01:27:57,360
Speaker 6: that they lost. Yeah, they lost the gamble, but I

2001
01:27:57,400 --> 01:27:58,920
Speaker 6: don't think it was a bad one.

2002
01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:02,040
Speaker 7: Isn't it easier to just replace the quarterback than to

2003
01:28:02,120 --> 01:28:03,639
Speaker 7: tear down the entire organization?

2004
01:28:03,720 --> 01:28:10,000
Speaker 1: Theoretically, yes, yeah, theoretically yes, you know, whatever, yeah, whatever,

2005
01:28:10,200 --> 01:28:11,120
Speaker 1: I know, just whatever.

2006
01:28:11,320 --> 01:28:13,040
Speaker 4: We always resignation to that side.

2007
01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:17,880
Speaker 1: Just look at the Tom Brady years with such fondness

2008
01:28:17,960 --> 01:28:19,839
Speaker 1: and just wishing most.

2009
01:28:19,640 --> 01:28:22,240
Speaker 7: Of us do retired of paying for one person here,

2010
01:28:25,240 --> 01:28:26,599
Speaker 7: like you bring up a tray after or something.

2011
01:28:27,160 --> 01:28:30,040
Speaker 1: The one thing that all this has shown us is

2012
01:28:30,160 --> 01:28:31,800
Speaker 1: the value of Tom Brady.

2013
01:28:32,040 --> 01:28:34,040
Speaker 5: You know, and how special that whole run was.

2014
01:28:34,160 --> 01:28:37,680
Speaker 1: I mean his legend only grew as a result of this.

2015
01:28:37,960 --> 01:28:39,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean just how hard it is. I mean

2016
01:28:39,800 --> 01:28:42,160
Speaker 5: even just watching other teams right now, you know, trying

2017
01:28:42,200 --> 01:28:43,800
Speaker 5: to get to that level of success.

2018
01:28:43,920 --> 01:28:45,559
Speaker 4: It's below bills, unreal.

2019
01:28:45,720 --> 01:28:49,280
Speaker 6: Alex, let me ask you this, what did you think

2020
01:28:49,400 --> 01:28:51,400
Speaker 6: when Brady left? Like what were your thoughts?

2021
01:28:52,200 --> 01:28:57,439
Speaker 20: Devastation one, But I like everyone was like, okay, we

2022
01:28:57,520 --> 01:28:59,680
Speaker 20: still have the greatest head coach of all time. And

2023
01:28:59,760 --> 01:29:02,639
Speaker 20: I thought that Brady might go win. But I think

2024
01:29:02,920 --> 01:29:05,880
Speaker 20: he'll eventually see maybe the grass isn't always greener. It's

2025
01:29:05,920 --> 01:29:08,559
Speaker 20: really hard to sustain success, which I think he maybe

2026
01:29:08,640 --> 01:29:11,080
Speaker 20: did see after winning the Super Bowl with the box

2027
01:29:11,160 --> 01:29:12,799
Speaker 20: and not going right back.

2028
01:29:12,680 --> 01:29:13,439
Speaker 19: To the super Bowl.

2029
01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:17,800
Speaker 20: But I still never anticipated. I mean, this season is

2030
01:29:18,000 --> 01:29:21,960
Speaker 20: just absolutely inconceivable to me. Going back to me on

2031
01:29:22,439 --> 01:29:25,840
Speaker 20: March seventeen, twenty twenty, the day Brady left, if you

2032
01:29:25,920 --> 01:29:27,200
Speaker 20: told me we would be here?

2033
01:29:27,720 --> 01:29:28,320
Speaker 4: Had the date right?

2034
01:29:29,520 --> 01:29:31,519
Speaker 1: If you told me that we would.

2035
01:29:32,880 --> 01:29:36,240
Speaker 19: And seven like, I don't know. I tried to be

2036
01:29:36,320 --> 01:29:38,840
Speaker 19: as hopeful. Yeah, you're right. I tried to be as

2037
01:29:38,880 --> 01:29:40,960
Speaker 19: hopeful as I could. All see, there were the last

2038
01:29:41,000 --> 01:29:41,799
Speaker 19: couple of weeks.

2039
01:29:41,960 --> 01:29:44,080
Speaker 1: There were some listeners to this show that did think

2040
01:29:44,120 --> 01:29:46,040
Speaker 1: we were going to completely fall off the cliff when

2041
01:29:46,080 --> 01:29:49,439
Speaker 1: Brady left, And you know, I argue, like, why does

2042
01:29:49,520 --> 01:29:51,360
Speaker 1: that have to be the case. We know it's not

2043
01:29:51,439 --> 01:29:53,160
Speaker 1: going to be as good? Well, why do we have

2044
01:29:53,280 --> 01:29:54,920
Speaker 1: to just I was with you terrible?

2045
01:29:55,360 --> 01:29:58,280
Speaker 7: But they didn't completely fall off a cliff immediately.

2046
01:29:58,280 --> 01:29:59,080
Speaker 1: It didn't right away.

2047
01:30:00,479 --> 01:30:00,720
Speaker 9: It was.

2048
01:30:02,560 --> 01:30:05,240
Speaker 20: So crazy to me that we're even having this conversation

2049
01:30:05,439 --> 01:30:08,080
Speaker 20: all on really like it seems a general consensus that

2050
01:30:08,400 --> 01:30:10,160
Speaker 20: Bill Belichick's going to be gone next year.

2051
01:30:10,479 --> 01:30:14,240
Speaker 7: I do, like I am obviously very much out on Bill,

2052
01:30:14,360 --> 01:30:17,439
Speaker 7: but in the in his one defense, I think this

2053
01:30:17,560 --> 01:30:19,559
Speaker 7: season probably would have looked a lot like last year,

2054
01:30:19,560 --> 01:30:23,200
Speaker 7: if everybody had stayed healthy where it still wouldn't.

2055
01:30:22,880 --> 01:30:28,320
Speaker 4: Have been good, but they would see that they would

2056
01:30:28,360 --> 01:30:28,840
Speaker 4: have been gardner.

2057
01:30:28,920 --> 01:30:31,519
Speaker 7: But I'm just saying, like I'm it still wouldn't have

2058
01:30:31,520 --> 01:30:35,280
Speaker 7: been good enough, but they probably would have stumbled to

2059
01:30:35,439 --> 01:30:38,360
Speaker 7: like seven or eight wins and maybe been in it

2060
01:30:38,520 --> 01:30:40,799
Speaker 7: until late December early January.

2061
01:30:40,920 --> 01:30:43,439
Speaker 6: If they stayed completely healthy and all the other teams

2062
01:30:43,479 --> 01:30:45,320
Speaker 6: got all the injuries that they got, then I would

2063
01:30:45,320 --> 01:30:48,519
Speaker 6: agree with you. But like if they like I'm not saying, sorry,

2064
01:30:48,560 --> 01:30:51,120
Speaker 6: if Aaron Rodgers doesn't get hurt, they'd be one in

2065
01:30:51,439 --> 01:30:53,759
Speaker 6: one in nine, right, But I'm not saying completely healthy.

2066
01:30:53,800 --> 01:30:56,519
Speaker 6: I'm just saying you don't lose your two best players

2067
01:30:56,560 --> 01:30:59,719
Speaker 6: on your roster. Like there's a difference between being completely

2068
01:30:59,760 --> 01:31:00,640
Speaker 6: healthy and losing that.

2069
01:31:02,200 --> 01:31:02,400
Speaker 1: Point.

2070
01:31:02,479 --> 01:31:04,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, like you don't have to score as many. I

2071
01:31:04,400 --> 01:31:05,840
Speaker 4: just find it hard to believe.

2072
01:31:05,880 --> 01:31:08,560
Speaker 1: You only had to score eleven last right, really.

2073
01:31:08,439 --> 01:31:12,600
Speaker 20: Devastating injuries to the defense, but we're seeing defense is

2074
01:31:12,680 --> 01:31:13,360
Speaker 20: like really.

2075
01:31:13,240 --> 01:31:14,200
Speaker 7: All we have to hang out?

2076
01:31:15,160 --> 01:31:15,320
Speaker 1: You know?

2077
01:31:15,680 --> 01:31:18,200
Speaker 6: Does would you allow Buffalo to say if we don't

2078
01:31:18,240 --> 01:31:20,760
Speaker 6: lose you know, Milano and Trey White, we don't lose

2079
01:31:20,800 --> 01:31:21,240
Speaker 6: that game.

2080
01:31:21,120 --> 01:31:21,759
Speaker 4: With the Patriots.

2081
01:31:21,960 --> 01:31:24,000
Speaker 7: Maybe I don't know. I'm just saying, but I'm sure

2082
01:31:24,040 --> 01:31:26,640
Speaker 7: you wouldn't. I'm just saying so last year, and to

2083
01:31:26,720 --> 01:31:29,320
Speaker 7: put you know, Fred here your point. Last year, the

2084
01:31:29,439 --> 01:31:33,600
Speaker 7: defense literally scored points for the offense, right, Like, you

2085
01:31:33,800 --> 01:31:36,640
Speaker 7: cannot rely on that, but I can count on the

2086
01:31:36,720 --> 01:31:39,439
Speaker 7: defense making plays to put the offense on short fields

2087
01:31:39,640 --> 01:31:42,040
Speaker 7: like that, that that should happen consistently.

2088
01:31:42,960 --> 01:31:45,479
Speaker 6: I don't think you can rely on turnovers consistently. I

2089
01:31:45,520 --> 01:31:49,320
Speaker 6: think they're they're very much an unknown variable. Well, I

2090
01:31:49,400 --> 01:31:52,000
Speaker 6: think they vary from year to year. I always look

2091
01:31:52,000 --> 01:31:53,960
Speaker 6: at the teams when you go into the playoffs, the

2092
01:31:54,040 --> 01:31:57,080
Speaker 6: teams that have had great plus minds, you know, with

2093
01:31:57,240 --> 01:31:59,800
Speaker 6: the turnovers and not just that, but like Evan said,

2094
01:32:00,120 --> 01:32:03,040
Speaker 6: the scoring, and I bet against those teams in the playoffs.

2095
01:32:03,280 --> 01:32:06,040
Speaker 6: I feel like when you do that, and that's how

2096
01:32:06,080 --> 01:32:09,200
Speaker 6: you got thirteen and three or whatever. Pall it takes

2097
01:32:09,320 --> 01:32:10,960
Speaker 6: is one game in the playoffs where you don't get

2098
01:32:10,960 --> 01:32:11,519
Speaker 6: it when you lose.

2099
01:32:12,120 --> 01:32:14,080
Speaker 1: When Paul says he bets against him, he just yes,

2100
01:32:14,240 --> 01:32:15,840
Speaker 1: it's metaphor for it.

2101
01:32:16,200 --> 01:32:18,200
Speaker 7: My point was, like Alex is just saying that you

2102
01:32:18,320 --> 01:32:21,200
Speaker 7: can't you couldn't imagine to in eight and either could that.

2103
01:32:21,439 --> 01:32:23,840
Speaker 6: I couldn't have either because I thought that at the

2104
01:32:24,000 --> 01:32:26,519
Speaker 6: very worst, they would just be to think I'm really

2105
01:32:26,800 --> 01:32:29,360
Speaker 6: I am negative and I don't ever think of that.

2106
01:32:29,840 --> 01:32:32,720
Speaker 4: But I don't don't you don't hurt of that.

2107
01:32:33,320 --> 01:32:36,120
Speaker 7: But but you said seven wins was their ceiling, right, Yeah,

2108
01:32:36,200 --> 01:32:37,760
Speaker 7: And I don't necessarily disagree with that.

2109
01:32:38,040 --> 01:32:39,920
Speaker 4: They're not going to get to seven wins.

2110
01:32:39,960 --> 01:32:42,680
Speaker 6: But when if everything fell into in other words, if

2111
01:32:42,680 --> 01:32:46,160
Speaker 6: they stayed healthy, everything fell in place, but everybody was

2112
01:32:46,320 --> 01:32:48,680
Speaker 6: hurt close the other teams got hurt, and you didn't like,

2113
01:32:48,800 --> 01:32:50,160
Speaker 6: maybe you could win seven games.

2114
01:32:50,400 --> 01:32:51,880
Speaker 4: That's how I felt about this team.

2115
01:32:52,000 --> 01:32:54,160
Speaker 7: I don't, but I don't necessarily disagree with that. If

2116
01:32:54,200 --> 01:32:56,080
Speaker 7: they're two and eight, Paul, like there, I thought the

2117
01:32:56,479 --> 01:32:58,200
Speaker 7: win four games, that's going to be a lot.

2118
01:33:00,000 --> 01:33:01,720
Speaker 19: I didn't think the offense could get worse than.

2119
01:33:01,800 --> 01:33:05,400
Speaker 6: I didn't think that I would. I would that's I

2120
01:33:05,439 --> 01:33:07,360
Speaker 6: didn't think the offense could be worse than it was.

2121
01:33:07,439 --> 01:33:09,360
Speaker 5: And my question is just I think we all kind

2122
01:33:09,400 --> 01:33:11,519
Speaker 5: of agreed that, like six, I feel like we said

2123
01:33:11,560 --> 01:33:13,760
Speaker 5: a lot. Six six wins feels like the floor for

2124
01:33:13,840 --> 01:33:15,840
Speaker 5: this team. Like he's too good a coach to not

2125
01:33:16,000 --> 01:33:18,040
Speaker 5: get them six wins? Why aren't we the six wins

2126
01:33:18,120 --> 01:33:18,439
Speaker 5: this year?

2127
01:33:18,600 --> 01:33:22,280
Speaker 6: You know, yeah, I would have said, it's like, see,

2128
01:33:22,320 --> 01:33:27,000
Speaker 6: I would I know you think I'm probably lying, but

2129
01:33:27,040 --> 01:33:28,800
Speaker 6: I'm not either for it because I think there's some

2130
01:33:28,920 --> 01:33:31,559
Speaker 6: teams that they could beat, just like the last couple

2131
01:33:31,600 --> 01:33:32,760
Speaker 6: of games they played, they.

2132
01:33:32,720 --> 01:33:34,719
Speaker 4: Could have won. That would be a big mistake.

2133
01:33:34,960 --> 01:33:37,040
Speaker 6: No, I understand that that's a different argument, But like

2134
01:33:37,360 --> 01:33:39,560
Speaker 6: I look at the ten games they've played. If you

2135
01:33:39,560 --> 01:33:41,599
Speaker 6: would ask me before, and I do this all the time,

2136
01:33:41,680 --> 01:33:44,960
Speaker 6: I told you the who was the team they played

2137
01:33:44,960 --> 01:33:48,400
Speaker 6: before the Saints, the Raiders, the Commanders, and the Colts

2138
01:33:49,040 --> 01:33:50,800
Speaker 6: heading into the season, that would have said, you'll go

2139
01:33:50,880 --> 01:33:52,160
Speaker 6: two and two in those four games?

2140
01:33:52,400 --> 01:33:54,120
Speaker 4: Right, they went on four.

2141
01:33:55,080 --> 01:33:58,599
Speaker 6: However, I would have said the Bills is a loss

2142
01:33:58,800 --> 01:34:01,599
Speaker 6: and the Jets is a loss until Aaron Rodgers got

2143
01:34:03,240 --> 01:34:07,519
Speaker 6: so kind of had them at two and eight ish. Now,

2144
01:34:08,240 --> 01:34:10,880
Speaker 6: where it's way different than I thought, is what Alex said.

2145
01:34:10,880 --> 01:34:12,760
Speaker 6: I didn't think it would look like this. I didn't

2146
01:34:12,760 --> 01:34:14,800
Speaker 6: think Mac would look like this. Even though I'm not

2147
01:34:15,080 --> 01:34:17,120
Speaker 6: a big believer in Mac, I didn't think he was

2148
01:34:17,160 --> 01:34:20,360
Speaker 6: capable of throwing interceptions like he did on Sunday was

2149
01:34:21,600 --> 01:34:24,599
Speaker 6: I guess that's maybe more Maybe that's we're probably more

2150
01:34:24,640 --> 01:34:25,760
Speaker 6: similar than the win.

2151
01:34:25,920 --> 01:34:30,599
Speaker 1: It's that time of the week when we got to hurry, Paul.

2152
01:34:30,960 --> 01:34:31,840
Speaker 1: What happened last year?

2153
01:34:32,040 --> 01:34:32,320
Speaker 4: Angry?

2154
01:34:32,960 --> 01:34:33,280
Speaker 9: Uh So?

2155
01:34:33,800 --> 01:34:36,920
Speaker 6: Not surprisingly, when trying to make picks in the midst

2156
01:34:36,960 --> 01:34:41,840
Speaker 6: of a disco tech it didn't go great for really

2157
01:34:41,920 --> 01:34:46,599
Speaker 6: anybody really why uh So, Paul and Fred showed their

2158
01:34:46,800 --> 01:34:50,840
Speaker 6: their veteran savvy. You know, they fought through it. They

2159
01:34:50,880 --> 01:34:54,559
Speaker 6: wait for Paul and Fred eight and six, the best

2160
01:34:54,600 --> 01:34:58,320
Speaker 6: of the week. Evan seven and seven, good job, perfectly mediocre,

2161
01:34:59,400 --> 01:35:00,800
Speaker 6: Mike and Al like six and eight.

2162
01:35:01,160 --> 01:35:02,439
Speaker 4: That's what the regular games by.

2163
01:35:02,520 --> 01:35:02,880
Speaker 1: Horrible.

2164
01:35:03,000 --> 01:35:06,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll get back to you, okay. Uh Paul and

2165
01:35:06,960 --> 01:35:10,479
Speaker 4: Fred also seven to five and two. Make the money

2166
01:35:10,520 --> 01:35:15,160
Speaker 4: with the with the number Evan six, six and two.

2167
01:35:15,400 --> 01:35:19,240
Speaker 4: I'll take it. Alex three, nine and two.

2168
01:35:19,400 --> 01:35:20,519
Speaker 1: Give it to me. Give it to me.

2169
01:35:21,680 --> 01:35:24,080
Speaker 4: You're worse than three and what?

2170
01:35:24,240 --> 01:35:24,280
Speaker 5: What?

2171
01:35:24,520 --> 01:35:24,560
Speaker 10: What?

2172
01:35:24,800 --> 01:35:25,000
Speaker 5: One?

2173
01:35:25,640 --> 01:35:26,519
Speaker 4: One eleven?

2174
01:35:26,880 --> 01:35:27,040
Speaker 9: Two?

2175
01:35:31,160 --> 01:35:31,400
Speaker 4: Fred?

2176
01:35:32,720 --> 01:35:34,720
Speaker 6: My, you know, the records only go back so far

2177
01:35:34,840 --> 01:35:37,280
Speaker 6: because basically the records are only in my head.

2178
01:35:37,360 --> 01:35:40,479
Speaker 4: As you know, I do not recall a week that bad.

2179
01:35:43,320 --> 01:35:44,800
Speaker 1: I congratulations from.

2180
01:35:44,720 --> 01:35:47,240
Speaker 19: The papers, came to play international so.

2181
01:35:49,120 --> 01:35:51,439
Speaker 4: Here we are. The standings are as follows. Alex.

2182
01:35:51,840 --> 01:35:55,519
Speaker 6: Alex maintains her lead despite a tough commute here. She

2183
01:35:55,640 --> 01:35:57,519
Speaker 6: wasn't able to get as dulled up as she normally

2184
01:35:57,600 --> 01:35:58,879
Speaker 6: does when she comes.

2185
01:35:58,760 --> 01:36:02,040
Speaker 19: In with her crown, so much more prime maintenance than I.

2186
01:36:02,120 --> 01:36:07,599
Speaker 6: Am ninety six and fifty four for Alex, Paul ninety

2187
01:36:07,600 --> 01:36:11,599
Speaker 6: two and fifty eight, uh, Evan eighty nine and sixty

2188
01:36:11,680 --> 01:36:15,280
Speaker 6: one coming back, Fred eighty eight and sixty two, deuce

2189
01:36:15,560 --> 01:36:16,880
Speaker 6: eighty seven and sixty three.

2190
01:36:17,280 --> 01:36:20,759
Speaker 7: So you know, the battle for third place is pretty

2191
01:36:21,160 --> 01:36:21,920
Speaker 7: pretty tough there.

2192
01:36:22,080 --> 01:36:23,120
Speaker 4: It's pretty pretty.

2193
01:36:22,880 --> 01:36:23,200
Speaker 1: Tight to.

2194
01:36:24,720 --> 01:36:25,920
Speaker 4: With a spread.

2195
01:36:27,040 --> 01:36:31,800
Speaker 6: Paul seventy five, sixty eight and seven, Alex and Fred

2196
01:36:31,920 --> 01:36:36,280
Speaker 6: seventy two, seventy one and seven, Evan sixty seven, seventy

2197
01:36:36,320 --> 01:36:38,679
Speaker 6: six and seven, and Mike after that one and eleven

2198
01:36:39,400 --> 01:36:42,960
Speaker 6: sixty four, seventy nine and seven seven pushes last in

2199
01:36:43,080 --> 01:36:45,680
Speaker 6: ten weeks. By the way, Mike, you're gonna start to

2200
01:36:45,720 --> 01:36:47,280
Speaker 6: start adding half points to all the spread.

2201
01:36:47,280 --> 01:36:50,479
Speaker 1: Its gotta get rid of pushese. You're all right, let's

2202
01:36:50,520 --> 01:36:53,560
Speaker 1: get into it because you're gonna watch football tonight on

2203
01:36:53,680 --> 01:36:57,400
Speaker 1: Prime Video eight fifteen. Good game. The five and four

2204
01:36:57,520 --> 01:37:01,639
Speaker 1: Bengals are at the seven and three Ravens. Little little

2205
01:37:01,720 --> 01:37:07,640
Speaker 1: news the Cincinnati Bengals social media had to delete a

2206
01:37:08,000 --> 01:37:12,519
Speaker 1: tweet that showed Joe Burrow with something on his throwing hand.

2207
01:37:12,760 --> 01:37:15,599
Speaker 19: He had a little sling brace or something coming off

2208
01:37:15,640 --> 01:37:15,880
Speaker 19: the plan.

2209
01:37:16,000 --> 01:37:18,200
Speaker 20: I get so frustrated with how everything we do has

2210
01:37:18,240 --> 01:37:20,000
Speaker 20: to go through so many approvals. But then I see

2211
01:37:20,040 --> 01:37:22,640
Speaker 20: something like that and I'm like, good, that's why we

2212
01:37:23,439 --> 01:37:25,200
Speaker 20: get it. I understand, right.

2213
01:37:25,800 --> 01:37:27,080
Speaker 4: Baltimore by three and a half.

2214
01:37:27,600 --> 01:37:29,920
Speaker 5: Should I do the George Costanza and just do the

2215
01:37:29,960 --> 01:37:35,160
Speaker 5: opposite of what I think other than this, Well, that

2216
01:37:35,320 --> 01:37:39,120
Speaker 5: is information that is useful with with Joe Burrow, and

2217
01:37:39,200 --> 01:37:40,160
Speaker 5: it's a tough division battle.

2218
01:37:40,160 --> 01:37:40,320
Speaker 1: I think.

2219
01:37:40,360 --> 01:37:41,679
Speaker 5: Doesn't Lamar own the Bengals.

2220
01:37:41,680 --> 01:37:42,080
Speaker 1: I believe.

2221
01:37:42,400 --> 01:37:44,040
Speaker 5: I believe Marlon marlowns the Bengals.

2222
01:37:44,160 --> 01:37:45,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Baltimore.

2223
01:37:45,280 --> 01:37:46,120
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna correct.

2224
01:37:46,960 --> 01:37:49,360
Speaker 5: I'm gonna lay the points. I'll take Baltimore at home.

2225
01:37:50,240 --> 01:37:52,040
Speaker 19: I'm also going to take Baltimore at home.

2226
01:37:52,920 --> 01:37:55,720
Speaker 20: Especially now I feel reassured when A picks with I

2227
01:37:55,760 --> 01:37:57,120
Speaker 20: don't know after last week.

2228
01:37:58,360 --> 01:38:01,560
Speaker 7: I am also gonna take Baltimore at home. But I

2229
01:38:01,600 --> 01:38:03,320
Speaker 7: think it's a three point game. Right, you said three

2230
01:38:03,320 --> 01:38:03,639
Speaker 7: and a half.

2231
01:38:03,760 --> 01:38:03,920
Speaker 1: Yep.

2232
01:38:04,080 --> 01:38:05,960
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna take the Bengals. I guess too. So

2233
01:38:06,040 --> 01:38:06,559
Speaker 4: what does that mean?

2234
01:38:06,600 --> 01:38:09,080
Speaker 6: He's taking fred three and a half points spread, He's

2235
01:38:09,080 --> 01:38:13,400
Speaker 6: taking the point, taking the hook, the good good, taking

2236
01:38:13,439 --> 01:38:13,760
Speaker 6: the hook.

2237
01:38:14,040 --> 01:38:14,479
Speaker 1: I like it.

2238
01:38:15,000 --> 01:38:16,639
Speaker 4: I'm gonna take Cincinnati outright.

2239
01:38:17,479 --> 01:38:20,400
Speaker 1: All right, you're gonna take Cincinnati outright? Yeah?

2240
01:38:20,400 --> 01:38:21,559
Speaker 4: I think they need to bounce back.

2241
01:38:21,760 --> 01:38:22,120
Speaker 1: Trader.

2242
01:38:22,920 --> 01:38:25,080
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I forget the rules for.

2243
01:38:26,960 --> 01:38:27,240
Speaker 19: Today.

2244
01:38:27,680 --> 01:38:28,320
Speaker 4: Oh that's true.

2245
01:38:28,439 --> 01:38:31,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna go Ravens both ways here they.

2246
01:38:30,880 --> 01:38:32,639
Speaker 4: I'm a little worried about that injury that I didn't

2247
01:38:32,680 --> 01:38:33,000
Speaker 4: know about.

2248
01:38:33,120 --> 01:38:38,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, Sunday at one, the six and three Cowboys are

2249
01:38:39,000 --> 01:38:40,920
Speaker 1: at the one and eight Panthers.

2250
01:38:41,360 --> 01:38:45,240
Speaker 4: Dallas by ten and a half, ten and a half man.

2251
01:38:45,360 --> 01:38:47,839
Speaker 5: Last week, I laid those points, and that was stupid.

2252
01:38:48,640 --> 01:38:49,360
Speaker 4: Took the points.

2253
01:38:49,600 --> 01:38:51,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know what I mean, I'm gonna take down.

2254
01:38:51,120 --> 01:38:52,439
Speaker 4: Maybe that's why he went one and eleven.

2255
01:38:53,240 --> 01:38:56,200
Speaker 5: Probably I'm gonna lay the points as well.

2256
01:38:56,240 --> 01:39:01,800
Speaker 4: I I'm taking Dallas both plays. Yeah, I just don't.

2257
01:39:03,120 --> 01:39:05,680
Speaker 4: Dallas is so immature. Tempted to take a points, but

2258
01:39:06,360 --> 01:39:07,280
Speaker 4: I can't. I can't do it.

2259
01:39:07,680 --> 01:39:10,840
Speaker 5: Insult. I guess are so immature. I'm so mature, making

2260
01:39:10,920 --> 01:39:12,080
Speaker 5: fart noises on the field.

2261
01:39:12,200 --> 01:39:12,640
Speaker 1: Grow up.

2262
01:39:12,680 --> 01:39:13,479
Speaker 4: I will take Dallas.

2263
01:39:13,560 --> 01:39:15,519
Speaker 7: I like when I make Alex crack up by singing

2264
01:39:16,400 --> 01:39:17,960
Speaker 7: Pops random current.

2265
01:39:19,520 --> 01:39:22,160
Speaker 1: You think there's any chance the Panthers could be a destination?

2266
01:39:22,720 --> 01:39:24,320
Speaker 4: Yes on my list?

2267
01:39:25,040 --> 01:39:27,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, because of my leper Yeah, I think big pockets,

2268
01:39:28,320 --> 01:39:28,920
Speaker 6: deep pockets.

2269
01:39:28,920 --> 01:39:31,439
Speaker 19: I should say break reporting.

2270
01:39:31,640 --> 01:39:34,559
Speaker 4: Yes, thank you Savage. I will take the Cowboys.

2271
01:39:35,080 --> 01:39:37,439
Speaker 1: I will take the Cowboys as well. One o'clock six

2272
01:39:37,560 --> 01:39:39,479
Speaker 1: and three Steelers are at the six.

2273
01:39:39,400 --> 01:39:45,439
Speaker 4: And three Browns Uh Cleveland by one. I believe D

2274
01:39:45,600 --> 01:39:47,120
Speaker 4: t r. Will be playing quarterback for.

2275
01:39:47,120 --> 01:39:49,760
Speaker 5: The brownstr.

2276
01:39:51,000 --> 01:39:53,240
Speaker 1: For those of you who don't know, I didn't ye

2277
01:39:53,720 --> 01:39:55,559
Speaker 1: by I mean any good.

2278
01:39:56,120 --> 01:39:56,719
Speaker 4: He's a rookie.

2279
01:39:56,720 --> 01:39:57,439
Speaker 5: He's a good rookie.

2280
01:39:58,360 --> 01:39:58,519
Speaker 1: Man.

2281
01:39:58,560 --> 01:39:59,599
Speaker 5: I don't know how I'm gonna do it, but I'm

2282
01:39:59,600 --> 01:40:01,519
Speaker 5: gonna take Itsburgh on the road. Somehow they keep finding

2283
01:40:01,560 --> 01:40:05,320
Speaker 5: ways to win game. Actually right, God, it's tough, because

2284
01:40:05,320 --> 01:40:09,320
Speaker 5: I do think it's got you good d Pittsburgh take

2285
01:40:09,360 --> 01:40:14,320
Speaker 5: the upset film. Really second guessing myself on all these

2286
01:40:14,439 --> 01:40:15,160
Speaker 5: I'm going to take.

2287
01:40:15,000 --> 01:40:15,720
Speaker 19: The Steelers too.

2288
01:40:17,600 --> 01:40:20,439
Speaker 5: That's a coin flip for me, though, careful, don't have

2289
01:40:20,520 --> 01:40:22,479
Speaker 5: too many similar picks to me and end up in

2290
01:40:22,520 --> 01:40:22,960
Speaker 5: the basement.

2291
01:40:23,080 --> 01:40:24,120
Speaker 19: No, we're bouncing back.

2292
01:40:24,640 --> 01:40:26,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm also going to take the Steelers.

2293
01:40:26,320 --> 01:40:29,360
Speaker 7: I just like them in that spot against a rookie quarterback,

2294
01:40:29,600 --> 01:40:31,559
Speaker 7: I think that they could take care of business.

2295
01:40:31,760 --> 01:40:32,120
Speaker 5: Bitiness.

2296
01:40:32,240 --> 01:40:35,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'd probably be a low scoring, tight game the

2297
01:40:35,160 --> 01:40:37,120
Speaker 6: way the first game was. But I'll I will take

2298
01:40:37,160 --> 01:40:37,960
Speaker 6: Pittsburgh as well.

2299
01:40:38,160 --> 01:40:38,400
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2300
01:40:38,479 --> 01:40:40,960
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, if Watson was playing, it's a whole

2301
01:40:40,960 --> 01:40:44,639
Speaker 1: different ballgame, and I'd picked the Browns. But I can't

2302
01:40:44,680 --> 01:40:48,280
Speaker 1: see Tomlin, someone of his ilk los into a rookie

2303
01:40:48,360 --> 01:40:51,920
Speaker 1: quarterback being thrust into the game like the way he is.

2304
01:40:52,040 --> 01:40:54,720
Speaker 1: So I'm going to take the Steelers. One o'clock, three

2305
01:40:54,800 --> 01:40:57,759
Speaker 1: and seven Bears are at these seven and two Lions.

2306
01:40:58,479 --> 01:41:01,000
Speaker 1: What was it I heard of a college came looking

2307
01:41:01,080 --> 01:41:03,320
Speaker 1: for Dan Campbell to in Texas, A and m Yeah,

2308
01:41:03,560 --> 01:41:05,200
Speaker 1: it came looking Yeah, he said no.

2309
01:41:05,720 --> 01:41:07,439
Speaker 6: Yeah, so the Lions are favored by seven and a

2310
01:41:07,479 --> 01:41:09,720
Speaker 6: half Lions. But I did find that interesting though, Fred

2311
01:41:09,760 --> 01:41:10,200
Speaker 6: I agree.

2312
01:41:11,200 --> 01:41:13,200
Speaker 5: I will I will take the Lions, and I will do.

2313
01:41:13,200 --> 01:41:13,840
Speaker 1: The points.

2314
01:41:15,080 --> 01:41:17,040
Speaker 19: Lions Lions with the spread.

2315
01:41:18,640 --> 01:41:20,920
Speaker 5: How did you remember the first Pittsburgh Cleveland game? That's

2316
01:41:21,000 --> 01:41:21,640
Speaker 5: just stuck in my head.

2317
01:41:21,720 --> 01:41:22,840
Speaker 4: Right, it was a Sunday night game.

2318
01:41:22,920 --> 01:41:26,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like the first one you go to bed

2319
01:41:26,280 --> 01:41:27,360
Speaker 1: after the first series.

2320
01:41:28,040 --> 01:41:28,759
Speaker 4: I don't know stuff.

2321
01:41:31,880 --> 01:41:32,240
Speaker 1: I don't know.

2322
01:41:32,320 --> 01:41:34,280
Speaker 4: I just I have memory. I don't know.

2323
01:41:34,439 --> 01:41:36,400
Speaker 6: Like twenty five years ago, Fred hired me to come

2324
01:41:36,520 --> 01:41:38,519
Speaker 6: working for an NFL team, and I thought it might

2325
01:41:38,560 --> 01:41:39,920
Speaker 6: be a good idea to watch the NFL.

2326
01:41:40,240 --> 01:41:41,360
Speaker 4: I don't know. I thought that was good.

2327
01:41:41,680 --> 01:41:43,760
Speaker 5: You know, catalog every game that's played and be able

2328
01:41:43,760 --> 01:41:45,040
Speaker 5: to recall it at any given moment.

2329
01:41:45,320 --> 01:41:47,800
Speaker 6: I've told you we have a million times. If it

2330
01:41:47,880 --> 01:41:50,639
Speaker 6: had any value whatsoever, it wouldn't be stuck in my head.

2331
01:41:51,240 --> 01:41:51,600
Speaker 1: That's right.

2332
01:41:51,680 --> 01:41:54,240
Speaker 5: Cleveland value here? Who started for Cleveland that game? Was

2333
01:41:54,280 --> 01:41:54,799
Speaker 5: that at Watson?

2334
01:41:54,920 --> 01:41:58,519
Speaker 4: Watson? Yeah, we all, we all have strains. At least

2335
01:41:58,560 --> 01:42:02,960
Speaker 4: we had a late fumble costs Cleveland. Cleveland was winning

2336
01:42:03,000 --> 01:42:03,519
Speaker 4: our whole game.

2337
01:42:03,600 --> 01:42:06,360
Speaker 5: I remember that entire I barely remember the Patriots games.

2338
01:42:06,920 --> 01:42:09,639
Speaker 4: Okay, well that's bad. I'll take the Lions both ways.

2339
01:42:12,360 --> 01:42:15,920
Speaker 6: So Justin Field's back in this game, right, Yeah, yeah,

2340
01:42:15,920 --> 01:42:18,080
Speaker 6: I'm still gonna take He's not perfect. I'm gonna take

2341
01:42:18,200 --> 01:42:20,920
Speaker 6: Detroit both ways. That's the number seven and a half.

2342
01:42:20,960 --> 01:42:22,840
Speaker 6: I was thinking about taking the hook, but I'm not

2343
01:42:22,960 --> 01:42:23,880
Speaker 6: going to I'll do it.

2344
01:42:24,160 --> 01:42:27,720
Speaker 1: I'll take those points. Fearless Lions win, but don't cover.

2345
01:42:28,200 --> 01:42:31,640
Speaker 1: One o'clock. The four and five Chargers are at the

2346
01:42:31,680 --> 01:42:32,879
Speaker 1: three and six Packers.

2347
01:42:32,960 --> 01:42:34,200
Speaker 4: This could be a big week for Fred.

2348
01:42:34,240 --> 01:42:36,400
Speaker 6: By the way, there's no Patriots game from automatically to

2349
01:42:36,439 --> 01:42:41,759
Speaker 6: give us a loss. Yeah, let's see here the lack

2350
01:42:42,120 --> 01:42:43,519
Speaker 6: by three at Lombo.

2351
01:42:45,640 --> 01:42:47,280
Speaker 5: It's kind of a tough one. I kind of lost

2352
01:42:47,320 --> 01:42:50,639
Speaker 5: track at Green Bay, but I watched a little. Yeah,

2353
01:42:50,640 --> 01:42:52,240
Speaker 5: I'll watched a little of the Chargers. I'm gonna just

2354
01:42:52,280 --> 01:42:54,000
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go quarterback. I'll take the Chargers.

2355
01:42:55,160 --> 01:42:57,120
Speaker 19: Yeah, Chargers to win, Chargers to cover.

2356
01:42:57,960 --> 01:43:01,600
Speaker 7: I am also gonna I guess I'm gonna take I

2357
01:43:01,640 --> 01:43:04,479
Speaker 7: don't know. Normally I would take the Packers because of

2358
01:43:04,600 --> 01:43:07,120
Speaker 7: the weather and the Lambeau and the l A thing.

2359
01:43:07,360 --> 01:43:09,479
Speaker 7: But I'm going to take the Chargers. Think they're a

2360
01:43:09,520 --> 01:43:10,000
Speaker 7: better team.

2361
01:43:11,479 --> 01:43:13,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm gonna take the Chargers too. I I like

2362
01:43:13,920 --> 01:43:16,280
Speaker 6: the way their offense looked last week. I'm sorry, you

2363
01:43:16,320 --> 01:43:18,720
Speaker 6: guys probably don't know. They played Detroit last week and

2364
01:43:18,840 --> 01:43:20,360
Speaker 6: they lost forty one thirty eight.

2365
01:43:20,560 --> 01:43:22,960
Speaker 4: Okay, but I like the way that Herbert.

2366
01:43:23,200 --> 01:43:28,000
Speaker 6: Touchdowns Keenan Allen in Austin Eckler. There's a couple of

2367
01:43:28,160 --> 01:43:30,280
Speaker 6: obscure players, but you might want to.

2368
01:43:30,240 --> 01:43:31,040
Speaker 4: Pick them up for your fans.

2369
01:43:31,080 --> 01:43:32,000
Speaker 5: I did see some of that game.

2370
01:43:32,040 --> 01:43:35,640
Speaker 4: Actually I missed that one. Well good, you guys were

2371
01:43:35,680 --> 01:43:38,640
Speaker 4: actually in Germany. I'm gonna catch you.

2372
01:43:38,720 --> 01:43:40,360
Speaker 5: Some good Herbert QB. Square.

2373
01:43:40,400 --> 01:43:43,040
Speaker 4: I was watching Cocaine Bear. Cocaine Bear.

2374
01:43:43,280 --> 01:43:45,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's only one answer here, and that's the Chargers.

2375
01:43:47,120 --> 01:43:50,400
Speaker 1: Sunday at one, the two and eight Cardinals are at

2376
01:43:50,479 --> 01:43:52,240
Speaker 1: the five and four Texans.

2377
01:43:52,320 --> 01:43:55,400
Speaker 4: Imagine the Texans are hosting the Cardinals with a chance

2378
01:43:55,479 --> 01:43:59,280
Speaker 4: to go six and four. Big game, Houston five, big game.

2379
01:44:00,520 --> 01:44:02,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, Kyler Murray's back, and I think I'm going to

2380
01:44:02,840 --> 01:44:06,360
Speaker 5: take Arizona here, bringing Houston back to earth a little bit.

2381
01:44:07,520 --> 01:44:08,679
Speaker 4: Is that your hard or your head?

2382
01:44:09,760 --> 01:44:09,960
Speaker 1: Neither?

2383
01:44:10,880 --> 01:44:11,559
Speaker 5: It's my apathy.

2384
01:44:12,080 --> 01:44:15,679
Speaker 4: Big game for the Tank. Oh, I see what you're saying.

2385
01:44:15,720 --> 01:44:17,479
Speaker 4: I was like, what would the heartbeat anti?

2386
01:44:17,640 --> 01:44:17,920
Speaker 8: C J.

2387
01:44:18,040 --> 01:44:19,720
Speaker 4: Stroud because you don't want them to be good?

2388
01:44:19,960 --> 01:44:22,880
Speaker 1: But that makes sense. You're right, there's a window, and my.

2389
01:44:22,960 --> 01:44:26,880
Speaker 20: Intuition says to pick the Cardinals upset as well.

2390
01:44:27,160 --> 01:44:29,640
Speaker 4: But but Deuce is losing and you don't want to

2391
01:44:29,680 --> 01:44:30,200
Speaker 4: be tied.

2392
01:44:30,000 --> 01:44:32,240
Speaker 19: To Texans to win and the Cardinals to cover.

2393
01:44:32,479 --> 01:44:34,000
Speaker 1: Well, I hope your intuition is right.

2394
01:44:34,640 --> 01:44:37,000
Speaker 7: I'm going to take the as much as I want

2395
01:44:37,000 --> 01:44:39,240
Speaker 7: to take the Cardinals for the tank. I am going

2396
01:44:39,320 --> 01:44:41,120
Speaker 7: to take the Texans both ways because I think Kyler

2397
01:44:41,200 --> 01:44:43,920
Speaker 7: gives gave them a boost last week, but I don't think.

2398
01:44:43,840 --> 01:44:45,320
Speaker 5: It diminishing yea turns.

2399
01:44:45,479 --> 01:44:48,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, I am going to roll the dice and take

2400
01:44:48,080 --> 01:44:50,520
Speaker 6: Houston as well. I think that they show some maturity

2401
01:44:50,760 --> 01:44:53,600
Speaker 6: and handle that big win and build off of it.

2402
01:44:53,840 --> 01:44:56,640
Speaker 6: This is one of those spots that red flag you know,

2403
01:44:56,760 --> 01:44:59,599
Speaker 6: a team it's probably not that good yet, and they're

2404
01:44:59,640 --> 01:45:02,120
Speaker 6: hosting a team that qute unquote they're supposed to beat.

2405
01:45:03,479 --> 01:45:04,439
Speaker 4: I'm gonna roll the dice.

2406
01:45:04,640 --> 01:45:06,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. I'd love for the Cardinals to pull this off,

2407
01:45:07,240 --> 01:45:09,920
Speaker 1: you know, get that third win, but I can't do it.

2408
01:45:10,000 --> 01:45:13,160
Speaker 1: I gotta go with the Texans. Sunday at one, the

2409
01:45:13,320 --> 01:45:16,560
Speaker 1: three and six Titans are at the six and three Jaguars.

2410
01:45:17,200 --> 01:45:18,400
Speaker 4: Another big one for the take.

2411
01:45:18,600 --> 01:45:24,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, Jacks by seven mm hmm. Tennessee's nipping at our heels.

2412
01:45:24,320 --> 01:45:26,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna take I know I'm gonna take jack

2413
01:45:26,280 --> 01:45:28,439
Speaker 5: I'm gonna take Jacksonville to win, but I'm gonna take

2414
01:45:28,439 --> 01:45:29,800
Speaker 5: those points. I think it'll be close.

2415
01:45:30,000 --> 01:45:32,280
Speaker 4: Jacksonville, Tennessee.

2416
01:45:33,880 --> 01:45:35,519
Speaker 19: Yeah, I think Jacks win, Titans cover.

2417
01:45:37,520 --> 01:45:39,720
Speaker 7: I'm gonna take Jacksonville both ways, and I think that

2418
01:45:39,920 --> 01:45:43,000
Speaker 7: the Titans side Ryan Tannehill ask for his release today.

2419
01:45:43,120 --> 01:45:43,719
Speaker 1: What a baby?

2420
01:45:43,920 --> 01:45:46,800
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I think that one.

2421
01:45:47,200 --> 01:45:49,439
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'll take Jacksonville both ways too. I think they

2422
01:45:49,560 --> 01:45:52,160
Speaker 6: bounce back from their terrible performance against Theiners.

2423
01:45:53,439 --> 01:45:57,320
Speaker 1: Jaguars a kind of weird this year, So I'm gonna go, uh,

2424
01:45:57,479 --> 01:46:01,160
Speaker 1: Titans to cover, but Jaguars to win. Sunday at one,

2425
01:46:01,680 --> 01:46:04,280
Speaker 1: the five and five Raiders are at the six and

2426
01:46:04,400 --> 01:46:05,760
Speaker 1: three Dolphins.

2427
01:46:05,640 --> 01:46:07,120
Speaker 4: Miami by thirteen and a half.

2428
01:46:07,280 --> 01:46:11,599
Speaker 5: Oh boy, love, I really, I really want to see

2429
01:46:11,600 --> 01:46:14,160
Speaker 5: the Raiders lose, but I'm gonna take the point. I'll

2430
01:46:14,200 --> 01:46:16,080
Speaker 5: take Miami to win, but I'm gonna take those points.

2431
01:46:16,120 --> 01:46:18,040
Speaker 5: I think the Raiders are showing some fight and they'll

2432
01:46:18,120 --> 01:46:19,880
Speaker 5: find a way to maybe keep it a little bit close.

2433
01:46:21,360 --> 01:46:21,559
Speaker 19: Yeah.

2434
01:46:21,600 --> 01:46:25,920
Speaker 20: I also regretted giving the favorite a team points when

2435
01:46:26,000 --> 01:46:28,200
Speaker 20: these spreads are like this. So I'm gonna pick the

2436
01:46:28,240 --> 01:46:29,720
Speaker 20: Dolphins to win the Raiders to cover.

2437
01:46:33,080 --> 01:46:35,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm gonna take the Dolphins to win, Raiders to cover.

2438
01:46:35,280 --> 01:46:36,120
Speaker 7: It's too big a spread.

2439
01:46:36,880 --> 01:46:39,679
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm gonna lay the points. I'll take Miami both ways.

2440
01:46:39,800 --> 01:46:42,040
Speaker 6: Coming off a bye at home, I think the offense

2441
01:46:42,080 --> 01:46:42,559
Speaker 6: gets back.

2442
01:46:43,680 --> 01:46:48,320
Speaker 1: Ah, I'm gonna take the Raiders to cover in this game.

2443
01:46:48,800 --> 01:46:51,200
Speaker 1: Although thirteen and a half, but it's in the roads.

2444
01:46:51,240 --> 01:46:53,439
Speaker 1: It's really ten and a half. So yeah, I will

2445
01:46:53,600 --> 01:46:58,479
Speaker 1: I will definitely take the Raiders to cover. Yeah. Sunday,

2446
01:46:58,520 --> 01:47:01,000
Speaker 1: at one latt of one o'clock game, the two and

2447
01:47:01,080 --> 01:47:05,200
Speaker 1: eight Giants are at the four and six Commanders. Giants

2448
01:47:05,280 --> 01:47:10,040
Speaker 1: looking ahead, maybe the toilet the draft.

2449
01:47:10,280 --> 01:47:11,479
Speaker 4: Washington by eight and a half.

2450
01:47:12,720 --> 01:47:15,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, I just I think the Giants are probably the

2451
01:47:15,280 --> 01:47:17,639
Speaker 5: worst team in the league right now, and I'm gonna

2452
01:47:17,640 --> 01:47:19,559
Speaker 5: take Washington and I will lay the points.

2453
01:47:20,960 --> 01:47:23,280
Speaker 19: I hope that same it range true and we play them,

2454
01:47:24,840 --> 01:47:26,400
Speaker 19: but I will also take the Commanders.

2455
01:47:27,280 --> 01:47:31,080
Speaker 7: Do you I'm gonna take the Commanders, but I think

2456
01:47:31,120 --> 01:47:34,360
Speaker 7: that the Giants cover for some reason, because it's division game.

2457
01:47:34,439 --> 01:47:36,720
Speaker 6: In those games are Tommy DeVito, He's still filing for

2458
01:47:36,840 --> 01:47:39,519
Speaker 6: exactly what Evan said. I will take the points, Washington

2459
01:47:39,560 --> 01:47:41,160
Speaker 6: will win. I'll take the say ten and a half,

2460
01:47:41,200 --> 01:47:42,280
Speaker 6: Paul eight and a half, eight.

2461
01:47:42,120 --> 01:47:43,960
Speaker 19: And a half, Tommy living at home.

2462
01:47:44,120 --> 01:47:45,639
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the commanders both.

2463
01:47:45,520 --> 01:47:48,880
Speaker 4: Ways, Butcher mac Jones wishes he still lived at home.

2464
01:47:48,920 --> 01:47:52,840
Speaker 1: Commander, I'm sorry what commanders both ways say that? Now

2465
01:47:52,880 --> 01:47:56,040
Speaker 1: we've moved to four oh five, The four and five

2466
01:47:56,120 --> 01:47:59,040
Speaker 1: Buccaneers are at the six and three forty nine Ers.

2467
01:47:59,200 --> 01:48:04,639
Speaker 4: Just a joke, ef. San Francisco by twelve twelve.

2468
01:48:05,000 --> 01:48:08,360
Speaker 5: That's a lot of points, Jerry. I'm gonna take San Francisco,

2469
01:48:08,439 --> 01:48:10,680
Speaker 5: but I'm gonna take those points because I think I

2470
01:48:10,720 --> 01:48:12,920
Speaker 5: think Tampa's showed a little bit of fight, a little smunk.

2471
01:48:15,920 --> 01:48:20,200
Speaker 19: Niners win. I don't know what do they know? Niners cover?

2472
01:48:21,960 --> 01:48:22,840
Speaker 4: What are the shops now?

2473
01:48:23,200 --> 01:48:23,320
Speaker 9: They?

2474
01:48:23,520 --> 01:48:24,200
Speaker 4: What do they know? Fred?

2475
01:48:24,320 --> 01:48:25,000
Speaker 1: They know something.

2476
01:48:26,080 --> 01:48:27,880
Speaker 7: I'm gonna take the forty nine ers both ways. I

2477
01:48:28,000 --> 01:48:30,080
Speaker 7: just think they're a wagon me too.

2478
01:48:30,680 --> 01:48:33,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, forty nine ers both ways. I think they had

2479
01:48:33,120 --> 01:48:36,080
Speaker 1: their little mid season hiccup, and I think they're back

2480
01:48:36,840 --> 01:48:40,479
Speaker 1: for twenty five. The four and five Jets are at

2481
01:48:40,560 --> 01:48:41,200
Speaker 1: the five.

2482
01:48:41,080 --> 01:48:45,040
Speaker 4: And five Bills, Buffalo by seven.

2483
01:48:45,640 --> 01:48:45,960
Speaker 12: Wow.

2484
01:48:46,840 --> 01:48:48,559
Speaker 5: All right, I'm gonna take Buffalo at home, but I'm

2485
01:48:48,560 --> 01:48:50,639
Speaker 5: gonna take those points for the Jets. I'm not sure

2486
01:48:50,680 --> 01:48:54,040
Speaker 5: how they get them, but divisional game, Buffalo seems off.

2487
01:48:54,080 --> 01:48:56,840
Speaker 5: They got a new offensive coordinator. I just I think

2488
01:48:56,880 --> 01:48:59,080
Speaker 5: it'll be a close game, but I think Buffalo.

2489
01:48:58,680 --> 01:49:03,000
Speaker 19: Win unless Steph Diggs demands his release in.

2490
01:49:03,040 --> 01:49:06,200
Speaker 1: The next We can only hope. I'm gonna pick Buffalo.

2491
01:49:06,280 --> 01:49:06,600
Speaker 1: Would you.

2492
01:49:08,200 --> 01:49:08,559
Speaker 4: Wouldn't.

2493
01:49:11,520 --> 01:49:14,720
Speaker 7: I will take the Bills, but the Jets play the

2494
01:49:14,720 --> 01:49:17,320
Speaker 7: Bills tough. This is one game that Josh Allen can't

2495
01:49:17,360 --> 01:49:19,799
Speaker 7: figure out. So I'm gonna take the points for the Jets.

2496
01:49:19,920 --> 01:49:22,639
Speaker 6: Yeah, I agree, and I'm really surprised that Mike didn't

2497
01:49:22,680 --> 01:49:23,759
Speaker 6: say the Jets own.

2498
01:49:24,320 --> 01:49:26,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, that Buffalo. They do own Buffalo. So I'll take.

2499
01:49:26,680 --> 01:49:28,760
Speaker 6: Buffalo to win the game. But the way they're playing,

2500
01:49:28,760 --> 01:49:31,440
Speaker 6: I'm not laying a touchdown anybody. I'll take the jetsformation

2501
01:49:32,520 --> 01:49:35,160
Speaker 6: took the points. You you got it picked the same.

2502
01:49:35,000 --> 01:49:35,439
Speaker 4: Way I did.

2503
01:49:35,720 --> 01:49:37,519
Speaker 1: Wrong new OC for the Bills.

2504
01:49:38,640 --> 01:49:44,439
Speaker 6: Joe Brady just talked, Yeah, but the jelly lighting for

2505
01:49:44,520 --> 01:49:45,400
Speaker 6: Bills dot com.

2506
01:49:46,120 --> 01:49:52,840
Speaker 1: Jets play them, Josh Allen game is McDermott's job is

2507
01:49:53,200 --> 01:49:57,000
Speaker 1: very shaky. Yeah, that's why that getting redder and redder,

2508
01:49:57,479 --> 01:49:58,120
Speaker 1: just like his face.

2509
01:49:58,520 --> 01:50:00,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, I.

2510
01:50:00,320 --> 01:50:03,400
Speaker 1: Will take the Bills, but not to cover. I will

2511
01:50:03,479 --> 01:50:06,360
Speaker 1: take the Jets to win by less than what that

2512
01:50:06,520 --> 01:50:08,120
Speaker 1: point spread is. So what do you happen?

2513
01:50:08,880 --> 01:50:10,360
Speaker 4: Are there only three four o'clock games?

2514
01:50:10,439 --> 01:50:10,960
Speaker 1: Is that what you have?

2515
01:50:11,680 --> 01:50:11,800
Speaker 5: One?

2516
01:50:11,880 --> 01:50:13,120
Speaker 1: Two, three? That's correct?

2517
01:50:13,200 --> 01:50:13,519
Speaker 4: Thanks?

2518
01:50:13,880 --> 01:50:17,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a terrible way to make a bad red

2519
01:50:17,280 --> 01:50:18,320
Speaker 1: zone for a bye week.

2520
01:50:18,479 --> 01:50:20,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, come on, that's dirty, San Francampa's not.

2521
01:50:21,640 --> 01:50:23,040
Speaker 4: Oh it's bad. Uh.

2522
01:50:23,120 --> 01:50:25,960
Speaker 1: The final four to twenty five game is the six

2523
01:50:26,040 --> 01:50:28,920
Speaker 1: and three Seahawks at the three and six ron.

2524
01:50:28,840 --> 01:50:29,639
Speaker 4: Okay, which one owns?

2525
01:50:29,640 --> 01:50:29,800
Speaker 1: Which?

2526
01:50:29,840 --> 01:50:30,320
Speaker 4: Because there is a.

2527
01:50:30,520 --> 01:50:31,639
Speaker 5: Yeah, somebody owns somebody.

2528
01:50:32,520 --> 01:50:34,920
Speaker 4: Well, the Rams won at Seattle in Week one.

2529
01:50:36,800 --> 01:50:43,360
Speaker 5: Can't help them, I can't help I think DK Metcalf

2530
01:50:43,400 --> 01:50:45,840
Speaker 5: caught that big third down pass across the middle that

2531
01:50:45,920 --> 01:50:46,479
Speaker 5: you know he's shuck.

2532
01:50:46,560 --> 01:50:49,160
Speaker 4: Thet tackle was a really anoid scheme.

2533
01:50:49,479 --> 01:50:51,920
Speaker 1: You know what hurt? Red zone has just switched off

2534
01:50:51,960 --> 01:50:54,160
Speaker 1: from the Buccaneers game and they went to this one.

2535
01:50:54,240 --> 01:50:56,880
Speaker 4: And what what what hurt me is we played it

2536
01:50:56,960 --> 01:50:58,160
Speaker 4: for twenty five that week too?

2537
01:50:58,280 --> 01:51:01,800
Speaker 1: So how about these being paid to our game?

2538
01:51:02,400 --> 01:51:04,439
Speaker 5: It's like, what was this spread?

2539
01:51:05,320 --> 01:51:05,519
Speaker 1: One?

2540
01:51:05,800 --> 01:51:07,360
Speaker 4: Seattle by one one?

2541
01:51:09,160 --> 01:51:12,200
Speaker 5: I'm going Seattle, Yeah, Seattle.

2542
01:51:13,200 --> 01:51:13,360
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2543
01:51:13,400 --> 01:51:15,320
Speaker 19: If Seattle lost at home the first meeting.

2544
01:51:15,640 --> 01:51:20,560
Speaker 20: I think they avenge themselves, Seattle Avenge Avengers.

2545
01:51:21,680 --> 01:51:24,080
Speaker 7: I'm gonna go with the I'm gonna go with the

2546
01:51:24,120 --> 01:51:25,840
Speaker 7: Seahawks too. I just think they're a better team.

2547
01:51:25,880 --> 01:51:27,680
Speaker 4: I don't know why. That's all I got.

2548
01:51:27,920 --> 01:51:30,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, you're probably right, but I have this abnormal fixation

2549
01:51:31,040 --> 01:51:33,080
Speaker 6: that Fred makes fun of me about with Matthew Staffords.

2550
01:51:33,080 --> 01:51:33,880
Speaker 4: Who I'll take the Rams?

2551
01:51:34,360 --> 01:51:34,920
Speaker 1: Is he playing?

2552
01:51:35,520 --> 01:51:36,800
Speaker 4: I think so? With one arm?

2553
01:51:37,160 --> 01:51:38,240
Speaker 5: Yeahs.

2554
01:51:38,360 --> 01:51:39,400
Speaker 4: These things are just limiting.

2555
01:51:40,360 --> 01:51:42,360
Speaker 1: Seahawks are very quiet six and three.

2556
01:51:42,560 --> 01:51:45,280
Speaker 4: Just you know, I just you don't hear a lot

2557
01:51:45,320 --> 01:51:47,000
Speaker 4: about I gotta give Pete Carroll credit.

2558
01:51:47,080 --> 01:51:49,800
Speaker 6: I mean we always talk about Tomlin. Somehow he finds

2559
01:51:49,840 --> 01:51:51,679
Speaker 6: a way to win these games and keeps them relevant.

2560
01:51:52,200 --> 01:51:54,800
Speaker 6: I think Seattle kind of stinks and and they just

2561
01:51:54,880 --> 01:51:57,439
Speaker 6: keep winning games just like that, just like Tomlin.

2562
01:51:58,080 --> 01:52:01,639
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the Seahawks both ways. They cover

2563
01:52:01,760 --> 01:52:05,000
Speaker 1: the one point? Why is there ever a one point?

2564
01:52:05,240 --> 01:52:05,400
Speaker 4: You know?

2565
01:52:05,479 --> 01:52:06,000
Speaker 19: What's the point?

2566
01:52:06,120 --> 01:52:07,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's the point?

2567
01:52:09,000 --> 01:52:10,519
Speaker 5: That could be friends for gambling book names.

2568
01:52:10,720 --> 01:52:11,639
Speaker 1: What's the point point?

2569
01:52:11,880 --> 01:52:15,000
Speaker 4: What's the deal with one point? What's the point?

2570
01:52:15,720 --> 01:52:17,920
Speaker 1: You got a better game? You should have more than

2571
01:52:17,960 --> 01:52:23,800
Speaker 1: a point let's see a twenty on and be sure. Uh,

2572
01:52:23,920 --> 01:52:27,320
Speaker 1: the six and four Vikings are visiting the four and

2573
01:52:27,479 --> 01:52:28,360
Speaker 1: five Broncos.

2574
01:52:28,439 --> 01:52:32,559
Speaker 4: Of course, Denver by two and a half.

2575
01:52:33,280 --> 01:52:34,439
Speaker 1: It just like their tenth home.

2576
01:52:34,600 --> 01:52:37,240
Speaker 4: I know that's every year, every year, every year they

2577
01:52:37,360 --> 01:52:38,320
Speaker 4: just want at Buffalo.

2578
01:52:38,439 --> 01:52:39,280
Speaker 1: The other night they did.

2579
01:52:41,000 --> 01:52:43,360
Speaker 5: I'm gonna take I'm gonna take Denver at home. I

2580
01:52:43,520 --> 01:52:45,000
Speaker 5: just they're they're tough there no matter what.

2581
01:52:45,200 --> 01:52:48,800
Speaker 1: So okay, I.

2582
01:52:48,800 --> 01:52:51,519
Speaker 19: Don't want to, but I'll also take Denver at home.

2583
01:52:54,200 --> 01:52:54,920
Speaker 1: It's a tough one.

2584
01:52:55,320 --> 01:52:58,360
Speaker 7: I'm gonna I'm gonna take Denver as well. I think

2585
01:52:58,439 --> 01:53:01,720
Speaker 7: Denver I don't think they're good, but I think that

2586
01:53:01,840 --> 01:53:05,320
Speaker 7: Russell Wilson is at least playing okay, last couple of weeks.

2587
01:53:05,640 --> 01:53:07,519
Speaker 4: Nice, and I think their defense is play.

2588
01:53:07,600 --> 01:53:10,680
Speaker 6: I mean, they were absolutely embarrassed obviously the first few

2589
01:53:10,720 --> 01:53:13,240
Speaker 6: weeks of the season, but they've played pretty well for

2590
01:53:13,320 --> 01:53:17,080
Speaker 6: a month. I keep waiting for this like Minnesota thing,

2591
01:53:17,200 --> 01:53:19,800
Speaker 6: like come on, they can't just keep winning a guy

2592
01:53:19,840 --> 01:53:21,040
Speaker 6: who's been there for twenty minutes.

2593
01:53:21,080 --> 01:53:21,439
Speaker 9: But they do.

2594
01:53:22,439 --> 01:53:24,960
Speaker 4: But I'm gonna pick against him again. I'll take the Broncos.

2595
01:53:24,960 --> 01:53:26,960
Speaker 1: I think Sean Payton's bought himself another year.

2596
01:53:27,960 --> 01:53:28,160
Speaker 6: You know.

2597
01:53:28,400 --> 01:53:30,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, of course, when you give up that much, I

2598
01:53:30,560 --> 01:53:32,160
Speaker 4: thank you. Yeah, I don't think you don't want to.

2599
01:53:32,280 --> 01:53:35,760
Speaker 1: Kind of kidding, but yeah, I'm gonna take the Broncos

2600
01:53:35,800 --> 01:53:40,280
Speaker 1: to win this game at home where else? Monday night,

2601
01:53:40,400 --> 01:53:41,400
Speaker 1: eight fifteen.

2602
01:53:41,720 --> 01:53:44,160
Speaker 4: Fred on Christmas Eve. Oh big surprise. We're sitting here in.

2603
01:53:44,200 --> 01:53:47,920
Speaker 1: Denver making us go to Denver eight fifteen, ESPN, ABC,

2604
01:53:48,200 --> 01:53:51,280
Speaker 1: ESPN two, ESPN plus, ESPN Deportes.

2605
01:53:52,160 --> 01:53:55,080
Speaker 5: Yes, Taylor Swift for the NFL.

2606
01:53:56,000 --> 01:53:59,320
Speaker 1: This is a actually eighty one Eagles at the seven

2607
01:53:59,400 --> 01:54:01,040
Speaker 1: and two at Taylor.

2608
01:54:01,920 --> 01:54:03,559
Speaker 4: Apparently the parents are meeting.

2609
01:54:04,760 --> 01:54:07,200
Speaker 5: She's coming in from Rio. Introduce you to the parents

2610
01:54:07,240 --> 01:54:09,400
Speaker 5: taking the private plane right into Kansas City from Rio.

2611
01:54:09,520 --> 01:54:13,080
Speaker 4: After she is did you ever have any bad experiences

2612
01:54:13,160 --> 01:54:14,519
Speaker 4: meeting the parents for the first time.

2613
01:54:15,160 --> 01:54:19,080
Speaker 5: It's only happened a couple of times A little bit yeah, actually, yeah, yeah,

2614
01:54:19,360 --> 01:54:21,000
Speaker 5: there was something going on with the Dad's.

2615
01:54:20,680 --> 01:54:22,000
Speaker 4: A little bit a little late in the show to

2616
01:54:22,040 --> 01:54:23,240
Speaker 4: get into this, delve into this.

2617
01:54:23,520 --> 01:54:25,519
Speaker 5: I also met like I've also met one of the dads.

2618
01:54:25,560 --> 01:54:26,600
Speaker 5: And then dad was like and I was like, oh,

2619
01:54:26,680 --> 01:54:27,880
Speaker 5: nice to meet you, and he goes, yeah, I bet

2620
01:54:27,960 --> 01:54:29,640
Speaker 5: it is, like like I said, something like like as

2621
01:54:29,640 --> 01:54:29,960
Speaker 5: if there.

2622
01:54:29,960 --> 01:54:31,880
Speaker 1: Was something that that had like that I shouldn't have

2623
01:54:32,120 --> 01:54:32,800
Speaker 1: liked meeting. I don't know.

2624
01:54:33,080 --> 01:54:35,360
Speaker 7: I heard about you do, so I mean, why would

2625
01:54:35,440 --> 01:54:37,760
Speaker 7: the dad be happy to meet you? Let's be honest.

2626
01:54:38,280 --> 01:54:41,120
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm just being a problem to date my

2627
01:54:41,280 --> 01:54:43,080
Speaker 4: daughter over last night.

2628
01:54:43,440 --> 01:54:45,520
Speaker 1: The problem is when he was fifteen, he looked exactly like.

2629
01:54:47,840 --> 01:54:48,360
Speaker 4: How older.

2630
01:54:49,920 --> 01:54:52,280
Speaker 6: Anyway, Kansas City is favored by three, and this is

2631
01:54:52,600 --> 01:54:55,360
Speaker 6: did they do something specific this year trying to give

2632
01:54:55,440 --> 01:54:58,200
Speaker 6: the Monday night games a few more games.

2633
01:54:58,040 --> 01:54:58,720
Speaker 5: Like this this one?

2634
01:54:58,760 --> 01:55:01,000
Speaker 6: I don't know, as usually this would the Sunday night game,

2635
01:55:01,160 --> 01:55:04,400
Speaker 6: right and the Minnesota Denver would be the Monday nighter.

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01:55:04,960 --> 01:55:07,280
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe ESPN bitched and they said.

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01:55:07,240 --> 01:55:09,960
Speaker 6: Enough because this is a good matchup Philly Kansas City,

2638
01:55:10,000 --> 01:55:12,240
Speaker 6: and everybody would have thought it was a good matchup,

2639
01:55:12,560 --> 01:55:13,640
Speaker 6: you know back in May when they.

2640
01:55:15,640 --> 01:55:17,000
Speaker 4: Three Chiefs by three.

2641
01:55:17,080 --> 01:55:18,640
Speaker 5: I'm gonna I'm gonna take get three.

2642
01:55:18,680 --> 01:55:19,480
Speaker 1: So it's a push.

2643
01:55:19,680 --> 01:55:22,000
Speaker 5: I'm gonna take the Eagles. I'm gonna take the Eagles.

2644
01:55:22,040 --> 01:55:24,280
Speaker 5: I think they just they got a little more. They're

2645
01:55:24,280 --> 01:55:27,360
Speaker 5: playing better. Love Kansas City. I think they're a really

2646
01:55:27,360 --> 01:55:28,840
Speaker 5: good team. But I think Philly has just got a

2647
01:55:28,880 --> 01:55:29,520
Speaker 5: couple more pieces.

2648
01:55:29,600 --> 01:55:34,200
Speaker 19: Right now, I'm actually taking the Eagles to Travis Kelcey

2649
01:55:34,280 --> 01:55:36,160
Speaker 19: on the plane back and forth South America.

2650
01:55:38,720 --> 01:55:39,320
Speaker 5: He's not locked in.

2651
01:55:39,480 --> 01:55:41,640
Speaker 4: She's running to him like she's.

2652
01:55:46,560 --> 01:55:49,280
Speaker 1: Is that the most performative? Was that the most performative

2653
01:55:49,320 --> 01:55:53,120
Speaker 1: thing you've ever seen? She just wrapped herself around him.

2654
01:55:53,920 --> 01:55:56,960
Speaker 19: Chiefs engaged in like next year.

2655
01:55:56,960 --> 01:55:58,520
Speaker 1: I think I can't wait for the album when he

2656
01:55:58,560 --> 01:56:01,120
Speaker 1: breaks up with her, I know, but I can't.

2657
01:56:01,000 --> 01:56:02,680
Speaker 5: Wait for the Chiefs fans who are going to like

2658
01:56:03,040 --> 01:56:04,120
Speaker 5: like hate her forever.

2659
01:56:04,280 --> 01:56:05,400
Speaker 1: You know, like that's gonna start.

2660
01:56:06,240 --> 01:56:11,120
Speaker 7: That's what's happened to your girl with job, Yeah, Hale Steinfeld,

2661
01:56:11,640 --> 01:56:12,240
Speaker 7: they really are.

2662
01:56:13,200 --> 01:56:13,760
Speaker 4: It's happening.

2663
01:56:13,960 --> 01:56:15,840
Speaker 5: I know what we saw it with Gazelle. The same thing.

2664
01:56:15,960 --> 01:56:16,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2665
01:56:16,880 --> 01:56:19,000
Speaker 4: And just for the record, she like if she ran

2666
01:56:19,080 --> 01:56:20,240
Speaker 4: to me, it would give me.

2667
01:56:20,280 --> 01:56:24,440
Speaker 5: The instantly, like like, be an adult, your dog ran

2668
01:56:24,480 --> 01:56:25,280
Speaker 5: to you and jumped on you.

2669
01:56:26,320 --> 01:56:29,200
Speaker 4: He's a dog. It's different. I want to have that

2670
01:56:29,360 --> 01:56:35,480
Speaker 4: run to me. I know, run, She's only months away

2671
01:56:35,480 --> 01:56:35,720
Speaker 4: from me.

2672
01:56:37,040 --> 01:56:40,360
Speaker 1: Dogs can embrace those. Women can't be an adult.

2673
01:56:41,000 --> 01:56:42,000
Speaker 6: Sixteen adult?

2674
01:56:42,080 --> 01:56:42,680
Speaker 5: Oh my god.

2675
01:56:44,760 --> 01:56:51,440
Speaker 1: I it was like just like I came back from war.

2676
01:56:52,800 --> 01:56:55,800
Speaker 4: It was like one of those surprises. There's no way

2677
01:56:55,880 --> 01:56:56,960
Speaker 4: that she didn't know he was there.

2678
01:56:57,440 --> 01:57:00,200
Speaker 1: She was singing, like putting his name in the song, right,

2679
01:57:00,800 --> 01:57:03,240
Speaker 1: so performative song.

2680
01:57:03,760 --> 01:57:04,960
Speaker 5: A guy from the Chiefs.

2681
01:57:05,280 --> 01:57:06,840
Speaker 1: Yeah if I was.

2682
01:57:07,000 --> 01:57:09,320
Speaker 7: If I was, I'd be like, I'm out, yeah see goodbye.

2683
01:57:09,520 --> 01:57:11,880
Speaker 19: Yeah, he has like billions of reasons.

2684
01:57:12,080 --> 01:57:14,640
Speaker 1: Be good, like he's got his own right after the

2685
01:57:15,840 --> 01:57:16,360
Speaker 1: swift money.

2686
01:57:17,200 --> 01:57:18,560
Speaker 5: If I was on the Eagles and we beat him

2687
01:57:18,560 --> 01:57:20,400
Speaker 5: and they were talking that karma is a bitch, and

2688
01:57:20,480 --> 01:57:21,760
Speaker 5: then I just walked away.

2689
01:57:21,880 --> 01:57:24,760
Speaker 4: You know, here's your did you take anybody?

2690
01:57:25,920 --> 01:57:26,160
Speaker 1: Wow?

2691
01:57:26,320 --> 01:57:28,000
Speaker 7: You guys are Yeah, I can take the Eagles. I

2692
01:57:28,080 --> 01:57:30,920
Speaker 7: just think I I didn't know the Chiefs. The Patriots

2693
01:57:30,920 --> 01:57:34,080
Speaker 7: have had years like this too, where they're good.

2694
01:57:34,120 --> 01:57:35,280
Speaker 4: But not as good as they normally.

2695
01:57:35,360 --> 01:57:37,400
Speaker 7: But just like the record, you can tell by the

2696
01:57:37,520 --> 01:57:39,480
Speaker 7: eye test that there's just something missing.

2697
01:57:39,560 --> 01:57:40,280
Speaker 4: I would agree with that.

2698
01:57:40,360 --> 01:57:43,200
Speaker 6: However, I'm still going to take Kansas City. Coming off

2699
01:57:43,240 --> 01:57:46,160
Speaker 6: the buye at home big game, everybody's focused. Andy read

2700
01:57:46,200 --> 01:57:48,680
Speaker 6: off a bye is like undefeated. That's a good and

2701
01:57:48,840 --> 01:57:50,800
Speaker 6: you know tell.

2702
01:57:50,680 --> 01:57:54,440
Speaker 1: Me and I agree with Evan about the Eagles like

2703
01:57:54,920 --> 01:57:56,840
Speaker 1: they're eight and one, but it doesn't seem that way.

2704
01:57:56,960 --> 01:57:59,320
Speaker 4: Like he was talking about the Chiefs. I think they're

2705
01:57:59,840 --> 01:58:00,360
Speaker 4: not about the.

2706
01:58:00,680 --> 01:58:02,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're still I mean the Eagles are slow start.

2707
01:58:02,880 --> 01:58:04,720
Speaker 5: I think the Eagles are starting to find there their mojos.

2708
01:58:05,760 --> 01:58:09,879
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the Eagles. But the chief defense

2709
01:58:10,160 --> 01:58:13,640
Speaker 1: is playing really well. I think you know.

2710
01:58:13,760 --> 01:58:14,640
Speaker 4: That's why McDuffie.

2711
01:58:16,280 --> 01:58:18,720
Speaker 1: You know what I'm switching. I'm going with the Chiefs.

2712
01:58:18,960 --> 01:58:20,280
Speaker 1: I just talk myself into it.

2713
01:58:20,440 --> 01:58:22,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, sure, now I have cross ups.

2714
01:58:23,480 --> 01:58:28,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the Chiefs defense bottles up hurts, and this.

2715
01:58:28,440 --> 01:58:30,400
Speaker 4: Is when my integrity is called into question. What did

2716
01:58:30,440 --> 01:58:31,280
Speaker 4: you scribble out there?

2717
01:58:31,920 --> 01:58:33,200
Speaker 19: You should have someone notarize it.

2718
01:58:33,720 --> 01:58:37,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why it's chalk. You have an a racer.

2719
01:58:38,000 --> 01:58:39,840
Speaker 1: You can erase chalk. You know.

2720
01:58:40,000 --> 01:58:44,160
Speaker 7: Oh, it's not gonna apparently that No one knows what

2721
01:58:44,280 --> 01:58:46,480
Speaker 7: that means. No, what's chalk.

2722
01:58:47,040 --> 01:58:50,720
Speaker 1: Chalk is when something is gonna happen, you believe it's

2723
01:58:50,720 --> 01:58:55,560
Speaker 1: gonna happen. That's chalk. That's what I learned from Dan Lipschat.

2724
01:58:55,680 --> 01:58:56,800
Speaker 5: Isn't you a chalk talk guy?

2725
01:58:57,680 --> 01:58:58,760
Speaker 4: I am a chalk talk guy.

2726
01:58:58,960 --> 01:59:01,960
Speaker 1: All right, that's it for this show. We actually didn't

2727
01:59:01,960 --> 01:59:03,560
Speaker 1: have to hurry because we don't have catch twenty two

2728
01:59:03,600 --> 01:59:04,520
Speaker 1: breathing down our neck.

2729
01:59:05,280 --> 01:59:07,200
Speaker 7: That was and we also don't have to pick the

2730
01:59:07,240 --> 01:59:08,000
Speaker 7: Patriots game.

2731
01:59:08,120 --> 01:59:11,120
Speaker 4: It's not just that that was recorded before.

2732
01:59:11,240 --> 01:59:13,600
Speaker 1: So if you want to catch catch two after three,

2733
01:59:14,320 --> 01:59:17,600
Speaker 1: you can do that next week. We'll be back regular

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01:59:17,680 --> 01:59:22,480
Speaker 1: time Tuesday, getting ready for the Giants. No game this weekend,

2735
01:59:22,560 --> 01:59:25,720
Speaker 1: so enjoy yourself. I'm sure you'll be watching football, but

2736
01:59:25,880 --> 01:59:28,200
Speaker 1: we'll be talking to you. We'll see you next Tuesday.

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01:59:30,880 --> 01:59:32,560
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01:59:32,880 --> 01:59:36,120
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01:59:39,760 --> 01:59:42,400
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