WEBVTT - #348 Packers Unscripted: Heartbreak out West 0:00:00.800 --> 0:00:20.560 Hi, everybody, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com. 0:00:20.560 --> 0:00:25.000 I am Mike Spofford, joined alongside my trusted colleague Wes Hodkuits, 0:00:25.000 --> 0:00:27.920 were coming to you here from our studios at lambeau Field. 0:00:27.920 --> 0:00:31.720 We are back from Los Angeles West and unfortunately with 0:00:31.800 --> 0:00:36.840 a nine to seven Packers loss, the most difficult loss 0:00:36.880 --> 0:00:40.279 of the season certainly by far. And uh, I don't 0:00:40.320 --> 0:00:41.800 know where you want to start with this one, but 0:00:41.920 --> 0:00:44.720 really what it comes down to is you've got to 0:00:44.760 --> 0:00:47.480 make the plays at crunch time. You can't make mistakes 0:00:48.000 --> 0:00:51.080 at crunch time. The Packers made too many. Yeah, And 0:00:51.400 --> 0:00:53.279 you know, it was interesting the way you brought that up, 0:00:53.320 --> 0:00:55.520 because it is. It's the most difficult loss this season. 0:00:55.560 --> 0:00:57.600 Because in some regard, Mike, I think you could say 0:00:57.800 --> 0:00:59.400 this might have been the Packers best game of the 0:00:59.480 --> 0:01:03.000 year in terms of what they were able to in 0:01:03.120 --> 0:01:05.480 spurts and not to be able to come up victorious. 0:01:05.560 --> 0:01:08.360 But the main takeaway from this, Mike is that when 0:01:08.360 --> 0:01:10.960 you're playing a team like the Los Angeles Rams at 0:01:11.040 --> 0:01:13.479 seven and oh that has done so many things so 0:01:13.560 --> 0:01:15.839 well and can beat you in so many different ways, 0:01:16.560 --> 0:01:18.039 you have to be able to keep your foot on 0:01:18.040 --> 0:01:21.160 the pedal. Mike Daniel said it afterwards, speaking specifically about 0:01:21.200 --> 0:01:24.120 the defense. They had them on the ropes earlier, and 0:01:24.160 --> 0:01:25.800 when you have Mike Tyson on the ropes, you have 0:01:25.880 --> 0:01:27.399 to knock them out if you're going to be able 0:01:27.440 --> 0:01:29.240 to get out of there with the victory. They were 0:01:29.240 --> 0:01:30.960 not able to do that, and really they weren't able 0:01:30.959 --> 0:01:33.680 to do it in all three phases. So that is 0:01:34.040 --> 0:01:38.720 really where I think the disappointment lies. You. I made 0:01:38.760 --> 0:01:40.520 three points last week, and I'm not trying to toot 0:01:40.520 --> 0:01:41.800 my own horn or anything, but I thought all these 0:01:41.800 --> 0:01:43.800 were valid points. They had to win the early downs, 0:01:44.160 --> 0:01:46.800 they had to be able to contain Todd Gurley, and 0:01:46.840 --> 0:01:48.680 really Mike, I thought the biggest thing was they had 0:01:48.720 --> 0:01:50.520 to be able to control the tempo of that game. 0:01:50.840 --> 0:01:53.280 They did all three of those things at different intervals. 0:01:53.320 --> 0:01:56.080 They got the crowd in it in their favor, Aaron 0:01:56.160 --> 0:01:58.560 Rodgers was able to get the offense moving the ball early, 0:01:58.760 --> 0:02:02.600 They made the rams punt on their first five possessions. 0:02:03.320 --> 0:02:06.840 Everything was going their way until ultimately it wasn't. Yeah, 0:02:06.880 --> 0:02:09.600 And while I agree with what you're saying that and 0:02:09.919 --> 0:02:12.680 what Mike Daniels said, for example, that the Packers had 0:02:12.760 --> 0:02:15.880 the opportunity to knock him out. I will say this though, 0:02:16.200 --> 0:02:19.079 the Rams are undefeated for a reason, and it's because 0:02:19.240 --> 0:02:22.640 teams like that don't get knocked out. And what that. 0:02:22.800 --> 0:02:25.520 What I'm trying to say is that no matter how 0:02:25.639 --> 0:02:29.760 the first fifty fifty six minutes of the game go, 0:02:30.919 --> 0:02:33.519 you have to be able to make the plays when 0:02:33.520 --> 0:02:35.480 the game is on the line to beat a team 0:02:35.520 --> 0:02:37.720 like that. And the Packers gave up a sack on 0:02:37.760 --> 0:02:39.920 a crucial third down when they had the ball and 0:02:40.040 --> 0:02:43.200 a one point lead. Their rookie punter had his worst 0:02:43.200 --> 0:02:45.680 punt of the season at the wrong time, which gave 0:02:45.720 --> 0:02:48.560 the other team a short field and time Montgomery fumbles 0:02:48.560 --> 0:02:51.239 the kickoff. When you're gonna give Aaron Rodgers the ball 0:02:51.240 --> 0:02:53.200 with two minutes to go, needing a field goal to win, 0:02:53.560 --> 0:02:57.839 and he doesn't get that opportunity. Those are the mistakes that, Yeah, 0:02:57.919 --> 0:03:01.000 you can look back at the safety and some breakdowns 0:03:01.080 --> 0:03:04.040 on defense and some opportunities that were missed on offense, 0:03:04.120 --> 0:03:07.080 only two for nine on third down offensively, if you're 0:03:07.080 --> 0:03:08.960 gonna beat a team like this, you're not gonna beat 0:03:09.040 --> 0:03:10.960 him with ten minutes left in the fourth quarter. You 0:03:11.040 --> 0:03:12.399 have to beat him at the end of the game, 0:03:12.440 --> 0:03:14.399 and the Packers didn't do it. No, that's right, Mike, 0:03:14.440 --> 0:03:16.200 and I think you gotta give a lot of credit 0:03:16.240 --> 0:03:18.560 to the Rams. I got a new found respect for 0:03:18.639 --> 0:03:22.480 Jared Goff. Mike Pett had a phenomenal game plan prepared 0:03:22.520 --> 0:03:24.400 for him, being able to pressure him, get him off 0:03:24.400 --> 0:03:26.880 the spot early, but he showed a lot of resiliency 0:03:26.919 --> 0:03:28.960 for a third year quarterback and be able to lead 0:03:29.240 --> 0:03:32.520 that offense down the stretch. But ultimately the biggest factor 0:03:32.600 --> 0:03:35.400 that is Todd Gurley and what he presents. Packers were 0:03:35.440 --> 0:03:37.360 able to bottle him up early, but then he gets 0:03:37.360 --> 0:03:40.720 the third yard catch right before halftime. He starts to 0:03:40.720 --> 0:03:42.480 wear them down in the second half, ends up having 0:03:42.520 --> 0:03:45.560 a hundred yard day on the ground. And defensively, they 0:03:45.560 --> 0:03:48.000 have Aaron Donald, and we know what Aaron Donald presents 0:03:48.000 --> 0:03:50.880 and what he can potentially do and the mismatches that 0:03:50.920 --> 0:03:53.800 he helps create for them. Defensively, there are a lot 0:03:53.800 --> 0:03:56.040 of weapons there and a lot of very skilled guys 0:03:56.080 --> 0:03:58.480 that can hurt you. The Packers, I thought, did a 0:03:58.520 --> 0:04:01.000 relatively good job of navigate eating that for the most part. 0:04:01.040 --> 0:04:03.400 But to your point, in the critical moments of that 0:04:03.440 --> 0:04:05.400 game when you need to need to put things away. 0:04:05.720 --> 0:04:07.480 They just weren't able to get the job done. Yeah, 0:04:07.480 --> 0:04:11.160 we talked all last week about Aaron Donald and Todd Gurley, 0:04:11.200 --> 0:04:14.600 and it's interesting how this unfolded because for the most part, 0:04:14.640 --> 0:04:17.120 I thought the Packers did a really good job on 0:04:17.160 --> 0:04:19.479 Aaron Donald. Then you look at the stat sheet at 0:04:19.480 --> 0:04:21.240 the end of the game and he's got two sacks, 0:04:21.240 --> 0:04:23.560 and one of those at crunch time when the Rams 0:04:23.600 --> 0:04:26.000 needed the football back, and he got the job done. 0:04:26.480 --> 0:04:30.160 I thought the Packers defended Todd Gurley very well. They 0:04:30.200 --> 0:04:32.320 didn't let him loose for big runs. They got a 0:04:32.320 --> 0:04:34.719 lot of tackles at or near the line of scrimmage. 0:04:34.960 --> 0:04:36.200 You look up at the end of the day and 0:04:36.200 --> 0:04:38.520 he's got a hundred ninety five yards from scrimmage, a 0:04:38.600 --> 0:04:41.279 hundred fourteen on the ground, eighty one through the air, 0:04:41.520 --> 0:04:44.080 the juggling catch down the sideline you mentioned he got 0:04:44.080 --> 0:04:46.440 loose in the second half on kind of a drag 0:04:46.480 --> 0:04:48.760 route across the middle of the Packers dropped the coverage 0:04:48.800 --> 0:04:51.039 there and he ends up going for a thirty yard touchdown. 0:04:51.480 --> 0:04:54.560 The rushing yards had a twenty three yard run and 0:04:54.640 --> 0:04:57.920 a sixteen seventeen yard run basically forty of those yards 0:04:58.000 --> 0:04:59.480 right towards the end of the fourth quarter of the 0:04:59.480 --> 0:05:02.120 Packers on the verge of you know, holding him well 0:05:02.200 --> 0:05:04.919 under a hundred yards, but the twenty three yard runs 0:05:04.920 --> 0:05:07.760 sets up the uh, the go ahead field goal. They're 0:05:07.839 --> 0:05:12.159 just you know, that's that's what the difference making players 0:05:12.360 --> 0:05:14.840 do in this league. You can you can feel like 0:05:14.920 --> 0:05:16.680 you've done the job against them, and then at the 0:05:16.760 --> 0:05:18.960 end of the day, they still made the plays that 0:05:19.000 --> 0:05:21.680 make a difference. And the frustrating thing for the Packers 0:05:21.760 --> 0:05:25.680 is they had their guy, Aaron Rodgers with the opportunity 0:05:25.800 --> 0:05:28.000 to be the difference maker at the end of the game, 0:05:28.640 --> 0:05:31.160 and a mistake on special teams cost him the opportunity. 0:05:31.240 --> 0:05:34.119 Yeah dead. And and the thing that's interesting too about 0:05:34.200 --> 0:05:37.280 Rogers and how he performed, just how comfortable he looked 0:05:37.360 --> 0:05:39.600 right from the get go, and maybe the crowd had 0:05:39.640 --> 0:05:42.160 something to do with that, but just seeing the way 0:05:42.200 --> 0:05:44.480 the weapons worked, I mean, Aaron Jones had a phenomenal 0:05:44.480 --> 0:05:47.440 performance at thirty three yard touchdown that they really needed 0:05:47.440 --> 0:05:48.960 in the third quarter to be able to you know, 0:05:49.040 --> 0:05:52.120 get back in it. After the Rams had responded. Davante 0:05:52.200 --> 0:05:54.320 Adams you mentioned two of nine on third down. Both 0:05:54.320 --> 0:05:57.680 of the conversions were on forty yard reception by Davante Adams, 0:05:57.760 --> 0:05:59.880 who now at this point in the season almost at 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:03.520 gets seven receiving yards, becoming not only just a Pro 0:06:03.560 --> 0:06:05.599 Bowl type player, but looking like an all pro top 0:06:05.960 --> 0:06:09.680 of the shelf receiver in this league. Marquis Veldes Scantling 0:06:09.720 --> 0:06:13.440 has a forty yard touchdown catch. Clay Matthews had arguably 0:06:13.480 --> 0:06:15.680 one of his maybe his best performance of the year, 0:06:15.920 --> 0:06:17.960 had a huge sack at a critical moment to get 0:06:17.960 --> 0:06:19.800 the ball back to the offense when they had a 0:06:20.240 --> 0:06:25.440 seven to six lead. Kenny Clark, JOYR Alexander five p 0:06:25.600 --> 0:06:27.919 b U S. I think that's what makes us the 0:06:27.960 --> 0:06:30.279 hardest to swallow for the Packers is as we talked 0:06:30.279 --> 0:06:31.880 about some of the things that the Rams did well, 0:06:32.000 --> 0:06:34.560 there was a lot of really solid individual performances from 0:06:34.560 --> 0:06:37.479 the Packers perspective, but it is a game of mistakes, 0:06:37.640 --> 0:06:39.080 and in the end, I think when you look at 0:06:39.120 --> 0:06:41.599 what the way the Rams played, they just made enough 0:06:41.640 --> 0:06:43.320 plays and the Packers just had a few too many 0:06:43.320 --> 0:06:45.040 mistakes to be able to walk out of the Colisseum 0:06:45.080 --> 0:06:47.359 with the w Yeah. Well, Mike McCarthy said after the 0:06:47.360 --> 0:06:49.800 game he was asked about the time montgomery kick off 0:06:49.800 --> 0:06:52.360 return with two oh five on the clock. He said 0:06:52.400 --> 0:06:54.320 the plan was to stay in the end zone and 0:06:54.360 --> 0:06:57.359 give the ball to Aaron Rodgers time. Montgomery did not 0:06:57.400 --> 0:06:59.880 speak with reporters after the game. We don't necessarily know 0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:03.119 as perspective here, but it sounds like a player simply 0:07:03.160 --> 0:07:06.400 didn't follow the coaching staff's instructions ended up being a 0:07:06.400 --> 0:07:09.039 fatal mistake. I don't want to dwell on that here, 0:07:09.040 --> 0:07:11.880 but what I will say West is that the special 0:07:12.000 --> 0:07:14.760 special teams in this game is really what ended up 0:07:14.760 --> 0:07:18.160 being the difference. I thought offensively and defensively, both teams 0:07:18.200 --> 0:07:22.240 really showed who they are. Um there were big plays 0:07:22.280 --> 0:07:24.720 on both sides. There were some breakdowns on both sides, 0:07:24.760 --> 0:07:27.200 but that's what good teams do. They get you to 0:07:27.200 --> 0:07:30.240 to make some mistakes as game, as the game goes along. 0:07:30.400 --> 0:07:33.320 But on special teams, the rams, they pinned the Packers 0:07:33.360 --> 0:07:35.800 at the four yard line with a punt, they pinned 0:07:35.840 --> 0:07:38.400 them at the one yard line and got a safety. 0:07:39.000 --> 0:07:41.160 I mentioned the bad punt by J. K. Scott at 0:07:41.160 --> 0:07:43.160 the end. You have the you have the fumble. On 0:07:43.240 --> 0:07:47.680 special teams the Packers. They didn't make any glaring errors 0:07:47.680 --> 0:07:50.040 on special teams until the very end. But what was 0:07:50.120 --> 0:07:52.400 a what was an edge for the Rams on special 0:07:52.440 --> 0:07:56.000 teams became the decided edge with the mistakes at the end. Yeah, 0:07:56.000 --> 0:07:57.880 it's a good point you raised. And what actually stood 0:07:57.920 --> 0:07:59.280 out to me as I was walking out of the 0:07:59.320 --> 0:08:01.400 stadium getting onto the bus, getting ready to write, was 0:08:01.440 --> 0:08:04.200 that you could make a huge argument right here that 0:08:04.320 --> 0:08:07.320 the Rams have the three best players in their phase 0:08:07.360 --> 0:08:09.440 in the league right now with where you look at 0:08:09.440 --> 0:08:11.800 what Todd Gurley does on offense, Aaron Donald does on 0:08:11.880 --> 0:08:16.280 defense given his position, and also Johnny Hecker as a punter. Uh, 0:08:16.400 --> 0:08:19.240 he comes as advertised, and then Greg's oline is no 0:08:19.400 --> 0:08:22.200 joke as the leg. He's got that nickname for a 0:08:22.200 --> 0:08:24.960 reason now that he's back healthy. Absolutely, And the thing 0:08:25.160 --> 0:08:27.200 was that I thought was interesting about Hecker. They got 0:08:27.240 --> 0:08:28.800 off to sort of a rough start. There was some 0:08:28.880 --> 0:08:31.240 high snaps, he was having a hard time some line 0:08:31.320 --> 0:08:34.240 drive type punts, but the way they battled back and 0:08:34.280 --> 0:08:36.600 with his arm. Kevin King was talking about it after 0:08:36.640 --> 0:08:39.320 the game. He's their number three quarterback for a reason. 0:08:39.400 --> 0:08:42.160 That isn't just the hype, you know, joke or just 0:08:42.480 --> 0:08:44.960 a stance. No, he has an arm and the Packers 0:08:45.040 --> 0:08:47.240 knew they were gonna have to be ready for that. Uh. 0:08:47.480 --> 0:08:49.439 Fortunately for the Packers, after he did have that twelve 0:08:49.480 --> 0:08:51.920 yard completion to Sam Shields, the defense came back and 0:08:51.960 --> 0:08:54.400 got a three and out right away. But again, Hecker 0:08:54.520 --> 0:08:56.920 came back, had a beauty of a punt to put 0:08:56.960 --> 0:08:59.680 them pin the Packers back at their own one yard line. 0:08:59.720 --> 0:09:02.640 Work in tandem with with Sam Shields, and then that 0:09:02.720 --> 0:09:04.280 ends up being sort of a turning point in this 0:09:04.320 --> 0:09:06.280 game with them being able to get the safety you 0:09:06.320 --> 0:09:08.319 need to get those type of players out of special teams. 0:09:08.320 --> 0:09:10.600 And for the Rams, who are often considered one of 0:09:10.600 --> 0:09:13.440 the trickiest, most skilled units in the league. You know, 0:09:13.520 --> 0:09:16.080 Jim Jim Fossils guys, they really stepped up. Well, that's 0:09:16.120 --> 0:09:19.440 where I think the Rams proved that they are the 0:09:19.440 --> 0:09:22.679 best team in the NFL right now in that throughout 0:09:22.760 --> 0:09:25.400 the majority of that first half, the Packers had the 0:09:25.480 --> 0:09:28.800 Rams defense on their heels a little bit. The Packers 0:09:28.880 --> 0:09:33.360 defense had Jared Goff a little discombobulated in the pocket 0:09:33.440 --> 0:09:36.000 with the sacks and the different third down pressures and 0:09:36.000 --> 0:09:39.319 everything the offense and the defense for the Rams were scuffling, 0:09:39.720 --> 0:09:42.400 their special teams picked them up. And that's what the 0:09:42.440 --> 0:09:45.120 best teams in the league have. You always have one 0:09:45.240 --> 0:09:47.840 phase that is going to bail you out, that is 0:09:47.840 --> 0:09:50.360 going to keep you where you need to be and 0:09:50.400 --> 0:09:53.240 give you a chance to win until everybody else gets 0:09:53.280 --> 0:09:56.400 going like they're used to. Because you're undefeated for a reason. 0:09:56.600 --> 0:10:00.360 You you've won all these games because you're offense and 0:10:00.440 --> 0:10:02.640 defense can get the job done. And once the Rams 0:10:02.679 --> 0:10:04.640 offense and defense started a roll, we saw it. I 0:10:04.640 --> 0:10:08.240 mean the game went from ten to nothing Packers to thirteen. Rams. 0:10:08.240 --> 0:10:10.560 There's a stretch there where the Rams outscored the Packers 0:10:10.600 --> 0:10:13.600 twenty three to three. They played a stretch of that 0:10:13.640 --> 0:10:17.000 game like they expected to. I give the Packers credit 0:10:17.600 --> 0:10:19.960 to thirteen in the second half, not a lot going 0:10:20.000 --> 0:10:23.880 their way. They kept throwing punches. They came back with 0:10:24.120 --> 0:10:27.240 a couple of touchdown drives there, especially the big play 0:10:27.240 --> 0:10:29.559 to Davante Adams on third down when the Packers it 0:10:29.640 --> 0:10:33.440 only converted one third down all day up until that point. 0:10:34.160 --> 0:10:36.320 Roger sits Adams for the big third down, the draw 0:10:36.320 --> 0:10:38.559 play to Aaron Jones. You get a touchdown, Suddenly you're 0:10:38.600 --> 0:10:40.520 right back in it. And then you put together another 0:10:40.559 --> 0:10:44.200 touchdown drive after that with a great inside move by 0:10:44.200 --> 0:10:46.800 the rookie Marquez Velde scantling on the one on one 0:10:46.840 --> 0:10:50.439 coverage on the outside, he makes the inside move, gets open, 0:10:50.640 --> 0:10:52.600 Aaron Rodgers puts the ball right on the money. His 0:10:52.640 --> 0:10:54.760 speed takes care of the rest of the pylon for 0:10:54.800 --> 0:10:57.400 the Packers to come back with two touchdowns there after. 0:10:57.440 --> 0:10:59.960 The way that game was going I thought was really 0:11:00.120 --> 0:11:04.080 really impressive because the Rams were starting to impose their will, 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:06.760 so to speak, in the game. And uh, and the 0:11:06.760 --> 0:11:10.160 Packers responded. Unfortunately, it just wasn't quite enough. Yeah, getting 0:11:10.160 --> 0:11:12.960 back to my original point, Uh, John Fossil, Sorry, I 0:11:12.960 --> 0:11:15.160 said Jim there to correct, make sure you get the 0:11:15.200 --> 0:11:17.680 right fossil. But um, I think one of the things 0:11:17.679 --> 0:11:20.120 you bring up is really interesting. And when you look 0:11:20.160 --> 0:11:22.960 at Davante Adams those plays that he made, specifically, if 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:25.240 the Packers do find a way to win this, I 0:11:25.559 --> 0:11:27.319 thought that this was one of the shining moments in 0:11:27.400 --> 0:11:31.000 Davante adams career because you know how badly they needed 0:11:31.000 --> 0:11:34.440 both of those third down conversions, specifically that second one. 0:11:34.480 --> 0:11:36.680 They needed something to go their way because it was 0:11:36.720 --> 0:11:38.560 one of the more bizarre games I've covered in the 0:11:38.600 --> 0:11:41.360 standpoint of You're right they did. The Rams did get 0:11:41.400 --> 0:11:42.840 on a big rally there and they were able to 0:11:42.840 --> 0:11:45.400 come back and grab the lead, but it wasn't like okay, 0:11:45.640 --> 0:11:48.040 they cut it to ten to eight, and then they 0:11:48.080 --> 0:11:50.000 came on at the second half and just ran down 0:11:50.000 --> 0:11:51.680 the field and scored again. The Packers got a three 0:11:51.679 --> 0:11:54.199 and out and then and added a field goal, and 0:11:56.080 --> 0:11:59.320 then the Rams finally got going after that. So for 0:11:59.360 --> 0:12:02.440 the Packers, they needed a response. They needed young guys 0:12:02.480 --> 0:12:05.480 to emerge. They needed a guy like Davante Adams to emerge. 0:12:05.800 --> 0:12:07.600 He did that, and I think when you look at 0:12:07.600 --> 0:12:09.800 Aaron Jones, how consistent he was throughout the course of 0:12:09.840 --> 0:12:12.000 this game. I think he's averaging right now I don't 0:12:12.000 --> 0:12:13.079 have in front of me. I think it might be 0:12:13.120 --> 0:12:15.520 like seven yards of carry. Now. At this point, the 0:12:15.520 --> 0:12:19.120 package featured him a little bit more. He rewarded them 0:12:19.120 --> 0:12:21.800 for those snaps and then I mean, what can you 0:12:21.840 --> 0:12:24.800 say about Marquis Valdo Scandling. I asked him this question 0:12:24.840 --> 0:12:26.920 after the game and in talking with them in the 0:12:26.920 --> 0:12:30.520 tunnel at the Colosseum. The fact that they did get 0:12:30.559 --> 0:12:32.960 Geronimo Allison and Randall cob Back, and by no means, 0:12:32.960 --> 0:12:34.480 I'm sure they had them on a rep column. They 0:12:34.480 --> 0:12:36.480 wanted to be, you know, safe with them in the hamstring. 0:12:36.760 --> 0:12:39.960 But the fact the Packers were that confident in Valdis 0:12:39.960 --> 0:12:43.240 Scandling and Equinimius st. Brown. They ran packages where it 0:12:43.320 --> 0:12:45.880 was just those two young receivers out there. They didn't 0:12:45.920 --> 0:12:50.280 have the veterans they felt Mike McCarthy this offensive coaches have, 0:12:50.440 --> 0:12:52.440 they felt confident enough of what those rookies had done 0:12:52.440 --> 0:12:55.040 to this point to keep them on the field. When 0:12:55.080 --> 0:12:58.079 they got their veteran options back, the Packers got a 0:12:58.120 --> 0:13:00.320 rally back. They're gonna have a tough opponent next Sun Night. 0:13:00.360 --> 0:13:04.760 But offensively, the emergence that with young players like this 0:13:04.840 --> 0:13:07.200 emerging in the offense, it allows them to open up 0:13:07.200 --> 0:13:09.640 the playbook more and allows them be less predictable, and 0:13:09.679 --> 0:13:11.520 I think obviously that had a big impact in what 0:13:11.520 --> 0:13:13.040 they were able to do in terms of turning the 0:13:13.040 --> 0:13:14.920 tide to that game against what a lot of people 0:13:14.960 --> 0:13:17.640 consider to be the best team in football right now. Yeah, well, 0:13:18.040 --> 0:13:21.360 before I forget amidst this discussion of a really entertaining 0:13:21.360 --> 0:13:23.600 football game, I want to take care of this West 0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:25.480 at home or here in the stands. We all know 0:13:25.520 --> 0:13:27.760 that Green Bay fans give it their all and that 0:13:27.800 --> 0:13:29.880 takes a lot of energy. 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I believe the announced attendance 0:13:54.080 --> 0:14:02.319 was seventy five thousand plus and uh, if it wasn't 0:14:02.520 --> 0:14:07.600 fifty fifty Packers Rams fans, it was somewhere awfully close 0:14:07.640 --> 0:14:09.640 to that, because you could hear it right from the 0:14:09.679 --> 0:14:13.080 beginning when when the Packers got their first sack on defense, 0:14:13.120 --> 0:14:16.040 when they scored the first touchdown, Actually the roar was 0:14:16.080 --> 0:14:19.080 pretty loud for Jimmy Graham when that was originally ruled 0:14:19.080 --> 0:14:21.840 a touchdown, and then they got the touchdown later after 0:14:21.880 --> 0:14:24.120 the reversal put the ball inside the one yard line. 0:14:24.120 --> 0:14:26.520 But um, but boy, right from the get go, the 0:14:26.560 --> 0:14:29.520 Packers fans made their presence felt, and they could be 0:14:29.560 --> 0:14:31.920 heard all game long. There were more go Pack go 0:14:32.120 --> 0:14:34.520 chance and during that game in l A. Than maybe 0:14:34.560 --> 0:14:37.040 I've heard at a game at lambeau Field in quite 0:14:37.080 --> 0:14:41.520 some time. That the fans, the fans, the fans showed up. 0:14:41.560 --> 0:14:44.120 I give him credit. And and uh, as I said, 0:14:44.160 --> 0:14:47.560 my the the headline for my insider inbox on Monday 0:14:47.560 --> 0:14:51.680 morning was they deserved one more possession. And some fans 0:14:51.680 --> 0:14:54.280 that I see in the inbox have misinterpreted that saying 0:14:54.280 --> 0:14:56.680 that I'm thinking the Packers deserved one more and they 0:14:56.720 --> 0:15:00.480 gave that possession away. I totally agree. My my line 0:15:00.480 --> 0:15:03.320 there was that the fans who showed up and really 0:15:03.360 --> 0:15:06.000 supported the Packers in that game, they deserved one more 0:15:06.040 --> 0:15:08.720 possession to see if Aaron Rodgers could pull this game out. Yea. 0:15:08.720 --> 0:15:10.360 And I think there are even some sentiments from the 0:15:10.680 --> 0:15:12.760 Rams side that I mean, certainly they want to win 0:15:12.840 --> 0:15:14.840 the game, but that did kind of take the drama 0:15:14.840 --> 0:15:16.720 out of it at the end, based on how well 0:15:16.760 --> 0:15:18.960 that game had been played up to that point by 0:15:19.000 --> 0:15:22.000 both teams. Uh, it was just a fun atmosphere to 0:15:22.040 --> 0:15:24.080 be a part of in some regard to kind of 0:15:24.120 --> 0:15:26.000 reminded me a little bit. Hear me out on this 0:15:26.520 --> 0:15:28.520 a little bit of the Metrodome as far as the 0:15:28.560 --> 0:15:31.200 reporters were concerned, because the way that the press box 0:15:31.240 --> 0:15:33.880 works there, it's sort of old school, and that you're 0:15:34.240 --> 0:15:37.040 it isn't It's basically right on the side of the field, 0:15:37.440 --> 0:15:39.600 but you know mid level, which you don't get kind 0:15:39.600 --> 0:15:42.960 of mezzanine level and all of we had basically shutter 0:15:43.000 --> 0:15:45.800 type windows that just opened and closed, and the crowds 0:15:45.840 --> 0:15:47.200 just right in front of you. It reminded me of 0:15:47.240 --> 0:15:49.280 the Metrodome in that regard that you could hear what 0:15:49.320 --> 0:15:51.200 the fans were saying, you could feel the energy of 0:15:51.200 --> 0:15:53.960 the crowd. It was a really cool atmosphere. I don't 0:15:53.960 --> 0:15:55.480 know what it's been like for the Rams this year. 0:15:55.480 --> 0:15:57.640 I know they're trying to recultivate that fan base, but 0:15:57.960 --> 0:16:00.280 in terms of just a natural football game, was really 0:16:00.320 --> 0:16:02.440 fun to be a part of because it almost reminded 0:16:02.480 --> 0:16:04.880 me in some regards with like high school, because you had, 0:16:04.880 --> 0:16:07.320 like the Packers fans when the Rams are on the field, 0:16:07.320 --> 0:16:09.200 they were getting loud, and then you still had the 0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:11.840 Rams contingent that weren't quite as loud when the Packers 0:16:11.840 --> 0:16:13.960 around the field, but sort of going back and forth, 0:16:14.280 --> 0:16:15.800 it was. It was fun to be a part of. 0:16:16.360 --> 0:16:18.240 But but I think the tough part for the Packers 0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:20.880 is that they did have at least a fifty fifty 0:16:20.920 --> 0:16:23.720 crowd there on the road. You don't usually get an 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:25.800 opportunity like that. You just weren't able to turn it 0:16:25.880 --> 0:16:28.720 quite into a victory. But as far as we will 0:16:28.720 --> 0:16:30.360 probably end up being the only game I cover at 0:16:30.360 --> 0:16:32.880 the Coliseum, it was interesting to be a part of. Yeah. Well, 0:16:32.920 --> 0:16:37.120 as far as moving forward here for the Packers, you 0:16:37.160 --> 0:16:39.280 said it, I said it. I do think this was 0:16:39.600 --> 0:16:42.560 certainly given the opponent, this was the Packers best performance 0:16:42.560 --> 0:16:46.960 of I think in order for this to mean something 0:16:47.120 --> 0:16:49.720 west because there are no moral victories in the NFL, 0:16:49.800 --> 0:16:52.320 Aaron Rodgers said after the game, you don't get momentum 0:16:52.360 --> 0:16:56.400 from a loss. It doesn't happen. But where this becomes 0:16:56.440 --> 0:17:00.880 meaningful is if this now is the new standard play 0:17:00.920 --> 0:17:03.240 for the two thousand eight teen Packers, if they play 0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:06.520 like this more often, because we haven't, we haven't seen 0:17:06.920 --> 0:17:10.639 an offensive and defensive complementary effort for four quarters like 0:17:11.119 --> 0:17:15.000 we saw on Sunday. If that continues, I think victories 0:17:15.040 --> 0:17:17.520 are going to follow. I think the Rams had a 0:17:17.520 --> 0:17:19.400 lot to do with the fact that the Packers did 0:17:19.440 --> 0:17:21.840 not win this game. They are eight no at the 0:17:21.840 --> 0:17:25.359 midway point of the season. But that's where if this 0:17:25.400 --> 0:17:28.360 doesn't become the Packers new standard of play, then this 0:17:28.400 --> 0:17:32.320 is just another crappy loss. Yeah, and Clay Matthews basically 0:17:32.320 --> 0:17:35.120 said the same thing and so many words afterwards when 0:17:35.119 --> 0:17:37.000 he was asked about you know, if this is something 0:17:37.040 --> 0:17:39.880 you can build on and basically said it better be 0:17:39.880 --> 0:17:42.560 better be something that we can leap frog from, because 0:17:42.920 --> 0:17:44.879 there were a lot of positives to draw from. The 0:17:44.880 --> 0:17:48.320 Packers put together a pretty good plan offensively and defensively 0:17:48.560 --> 0:17:51.080 for how to attack the Rams. And we've seen it. 0:17:51.160 --> 0:17:53.600 You know, they played a tight game against Seattle. This 0:17:53.680 --> 0:17:56.359 team is just not this impenetrable force has just been 0:17:56.440 --> 0:17:59.720 running through everybody, but they're finding ways to win. The 0:17:59.720 --> 0:18:02.439 Packers did put together a good plan to attack that, 0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:05.359 but weren't able to pull it off. This stretch doesn't 0:18:05.359 --> 0:18:07.639 get any easier though. You get New England, then you 0:18:07.720 --> 0:18:09.919 get to come home against a team like Miami that 0:18:10.280 --> 0:18:12.400 you know they're not pushovers. And you are on your 0:18:12.400 --> 0:18:14.879 own turf. But then you have a three day turnaround, 0:18:14.880 --> 0:18:17.680 four day turnaround to go out to Seattle to play 0:18:17.720 --> 0:18:20.000 the same team that's starting to feel it. You can 0:18:20.160 --> 0:18:23.720 you can tell, you can tell. The December slate lines 0:18:23.800 --> 0:18:25.520 up well for the Packers, but they got to take 0:18:25.520 --> 0:18:27.840 care of business in November to set themselves up for 0:18:27.880 --> 0:18:30.680 a run here. This has to be something you learned from. 0:18:30.680 --> 0:18:32.960 It has to be something that motivates you and can 0:18:32.960 --> 0:18:35.159