1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com. 2 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford, joined alongside my trusted colleague Wes Hodkuits, 3 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: were coming to you here from our studios at lambeau Field. 4 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: We are back from Los Angeles West and unfortunately with 5 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:36,840 Speaker 1: a nine to seven Packers loss, the most difficult loss 6 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:40,279 Speaker 1: of the season certainly by far. And uh, I don't 7 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 1: know where you want to start with this one, but 8 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: really what it comes down to is you've got to 9 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:47,480 Speaker 1: make the plays at crunch time. You can't make mistakes 10 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: at crunch time. The Packers made too many. Yeah, And 11 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:53,279 Speaker 1: you know, it was interesting the way you brought that up, 12 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: because it is. It's the most difficult loss this season. 13 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: Because in some regard, Mike, I think you could say 14 00:00:57,800 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: this might have been the Packers best game of the 15 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: year in terms of what they were able to in 16 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 1: spurts and not to be able to come up victorious. 17 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: But the main takeaway from this, Mike is that when 18 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:10,960 Speaker 1: you're playing a team like the Los Angeles Rams at 19 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,479 Speaker 1: seven and oh that has done so many things so 20 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:15,839 Speaker 1: well and can beat you in so many different ways, 21 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 1: you have to be able to keep your foot on 22 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: the pedal. Mike Daniel said it afterwards, speaking specifically about 23 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: the defense. They had them on the ropes earlier, and 24 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: when you have Mike Tyson on the ropes, you have 25 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 1: to knock them out if you're going to be able 26 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: to get out of there with the victory. They were 27 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 1: not able to do that, and really they weren't able 28 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:33,680 Speaker 1: to do it in all three phases. So that is 29 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: really where I think the disappointment lies. You. I made 30 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: three points last week, and I'm not trying to toot 31 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: my own horn or anything, but I thought all these 32 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: were valid points. They had to win the early downs, 33 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: they had to be able to contain Todd Gurley, and 34 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: really Mike, I thought the biggest thing was they had 35 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: to be able to control the tempo of that game. 36 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: They did all three of those things at different intervals. 37 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: They got the crowd in it in their favor, Aaron 38 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: Rodgers was able to get the offense moving the ball early, 39 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: They made the rams punt on their first five possessions. 40 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: Everything was going their way until ultimately it wasn't. Yeah, 41 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: And while I agree with what you're saying that and 42 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: what Mike Daniels said, for example, that the Packers had 43 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: the opportunity to knock him out. I will say this though, 44 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:19,079 Speaker 1: the Rams are undefeated for a reason, and it's because 45 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 1: teams like that don't get knocked out. And what that. 46 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 1: What I'm trying to say is that no matter how 47 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: the first fifty fifty six minutes of the game go, 48 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,519 Speaker 1: you have to be able to make the plays when 49 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: the game is on the line to beat a team 50 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: like that. And the Packers gave up a sack on 51 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 1: a crucial third down when they had the ball and 52 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: a one point lead. Their rookie punter had his worst 53 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: punt of the season at the wrong time, which gave 54 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: the other team a short field and time Montgomery fumbles 55 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:51,239 Speaker 1: the kickoff. When you're gonna give Aaron Rodgers the ball 56 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: with two minutes to go, needing a field goal to win, 57 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:57,839 Speaker 1: and he doesn't get that opportunity. Those are the mistakes that, Yeah, 58 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: you can look back at the safety and some breakdowns 59 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: on defense and some opportunities that were missed on offense, 60 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 1: only two for nine on third down offensively, if you're 61 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 1: gonna beat a team like this, you're not gonna beat 62 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 1: him with ten minutes left in the fourth quarter. You 63 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:12,399 Speaker 1: have to beat him at the end of the game, 64 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:14,399 Speaker 1: and the Packers didn't do it. No, that's right, Mike, 65 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: and I think you gotta give a lot of credit 66 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: to the Rams. I got a new found respect for 67 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: Jared Goff. Mike Pett had a phenomenal game plan prepared 68 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: for him, being able to pressure him, get him off 69 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: the spot early, but he showed a lot of resiliency 70 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: for a third year quarterback and be able to lead 71 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 1: that offense down the stretch. But ultimately the biggest factor 72 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: that is Todd Gurley and what he presents. Packers were 73 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: able to bottle him up early, but then he gets 74 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: the third yard catch right before halftime. He starts to 75 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: wear them down in the second half, ends up having 76 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: a hundred yard day on the ground. And defensively, they 77 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: have Aaron Donald, and we know what Aaron Donald presents 78 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: and what he can potentially do and the mismatches that 79 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: he helps create for them. Defensively, there are a lot 80 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: of weapons there and a lot of very skilled guys 81 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: that can hurt you. The Packers, I thought, did a 82 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: relatively good job of navigate eating that for the most part. 83 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: But to your point, in the critical moments of that 84 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: game when you need to need to put things away. 85 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: They just weren't able to get the job done. Yeah, 86 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: we talked all last week about Aaron Donald and Todd Gurley, 87 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: and it's interesting how this unfolded because for the most part, 88 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: I thought the Packers did a really good job on 89 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,479 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald. Then you look at the stat sheet at 90 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: the end of the game and he's got two sacks, 91 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: and one of those at crunch time when the Rams 92 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: needed the football back, and he got the job done. 93 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 1: I thought the Packers defended Todd Gurley very well. They 94 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: didn't let him loose for big runs. They got a 95 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 1: lot of tackles at or near the line of scrimmage. 96 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: You look up at the end of the day and 97 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: he's got a hundred ninety five yards from scrimmage, a 98 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 1: hundred fourteen on the ground, eighty one through the air, 99 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: the juggling catch down the sideline you mentioned he got 100 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: loose in the second half on kind of a drag 101 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: route across the middle of the Packers dropped the coverage 102 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 1: there and he ends up going for a thirty yard touchdown. 103 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: The rushing yards had a twenty three yard run and 104 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 1: a sixteen seventeen yard run basically forty of those yards 105 00:04:58,000 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 1: right towards the end of the fourth quarter of the 106 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 1: Packers on the verge of you know, holding him well 107 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:04,919 Speaker 1: under a hundred yards, but the twenty three yard runs 108 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: sets up the uh, the go ahead field goal. They're 109 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 1: just you know, that's that's what the difference making players 110 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 1: do in this league. You can you can feel like 111 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: you've done the job against them, and then at the 112 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: end of the day, they still made the plays that 113 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: make a difference. And the frustrating thing for the Packers 114 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: is they had their guy, Aaron Rodgers with the opportunity 115 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: to be the difference maker at the end of the game, 116 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 1: and a mistake on special teams cost him the opportunity. 117 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:34,119 Speaker 1: Yeah dead. And and the thing that's interesting too about 118 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 1: Rogers and how he performed, just how comfortable he looked 119 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 1: right from the get go, and maybe the crowd had 120 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 1: something to do with that, but just seeing the way 121 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 1: the weapons worked, I mean, Aaron Jones had a phenomenal 122 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: performance at thirty three yard touchdown that they really needed 123 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: in the third quarter to be able to you know, 124 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: get back in it. After the Rams had responded. Davante 125 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: Adams you mentioned two of nine on third down. Both 126 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 1: of the conversions were on forty yard reception by Davante Adams, 127 00:05:57,760 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: who now at this point in the season almost at 128 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: gets seven receiving yards, becoming not only just a Pro 129 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 1: Bowl type player, but looking like an all pro top 130 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: of the shelf receiver in this league. Marquis Veldes Scantling 131 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: has a forty yard touchdown catch. Clay Matthews had arguably 132 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: one of his maybe his best performance of the year, 133 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: had a huge sack at a critical moment to get 134 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 1: the ball back to the offense when they had a 135 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: seven to six lead. Kenny Clark, JOYR Alexander five p 136 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:27,919 Speaker 1: b U S. I think that's what makes us the 137 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 1: hardest to swallow for the Packers is as we talked 138 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 1: about some of the things that the Rams did well, 139 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: there was a lot of really solid individual performances from 140 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 1: the Packers perspective, but it is a game of mistakes, 141 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: and in the end, I think when you look at 142 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 1: what the way the Rams played, they just made enough 143 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: plays and the Packers just had a few too many 144 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 1: mistakes to be able to walk out of the Colisseum 145 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,359 Speaker 1: with the w Yeah. Well, Mike McCarthy said after the 146 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 1: game he was asked about the time montgomery kick off 147 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 1: return with two oh five on the clock. He said 148 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: the plan was to stay in the end zone and 149 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:57,359 Speaker 1: give the ball to Aaron Rodgers time. Montgomery did not 150 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: speak with reporters after the game. We don't necessarily know 151 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:03,119 Speaker 1: as perspective here, but it sounds like a player simply 152 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: didn't follow the coaching staff's instructions ended up being a 153 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 1: fatal mistake. I don't want to dwell on that here, 154 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: but what I will say West is that the special 155 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: special teams in this game is really what ended up 156 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: being the difference. I thought offensively and defensively, both teams 157 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 1: really showed who they are. Um there were big plays 158 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: on both sides. There were some breakdowns on both sides, 159 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: but that's what good teams do. They get you to 160 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: to make some mistakes as game, as the game goes along. 161 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: But on special teams, the rams, they pinned the Packers 162 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: at the four yard line with a punt, they pinned 163 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: them at the one yard line and got a safety. 164 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: I mentioned the bad punt by J. K. Scott at 165 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: the end. You have the you have the fumble. On 166 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 1: special teams the Packers. They didn't make any glaring errors 167 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: on special teams until the very end. But what was 168 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: a what was an edge for the Rams on special 169 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: teams became the decided edge with the mistakes at the end. Yeah, 170 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: it's a good point you raised. And what actually stood 171 00:07:57,920 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: out to me as I was walking out of the 172 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 1: stadium getting onto the bus, getting ready to write, was 173 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: that you could make a huge argument right here that 174 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: the Rams have the three best players in their phase 175 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: in the league right now with where you look at 176 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: what Todd Gurley does on offense, Aaron Donald does on 177 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: defense given his position, and also Johnny Hecker as a punter. Uh, 178 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: he comes as advertised, and then Greg's oline is no 179 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: joke as the leg. He's got that nickname for a 180 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: reason now that he's back healthy. Absolutely, And the thing 181 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: was that I thought was interesting about Hecker. They got 182 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: off to sort of a rough start. There was some 183 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: high snaps, he was having a hard time some line 184 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: drive type punts, but the way they battled back and 185 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 1: with his arm. Kevin King was talking about it after 186 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 1: the game. He's their number three quarterback for a reason. 187 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: That isn't just the hype, you know, joke or just 188 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 1: a stance. No, he has an arm and the Packers 189 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: knew they were gonna have to be ready for that. Uh. 190 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:49,439 Speaker 1: Fortunately for the Packers, after he did have that twelve 191 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: yard completion to Sam Shields, the defense came back and 192 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: got a three and out right away. But again, Hecker 193 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: came back, had a beauty of a punt to put 194 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 1: them pin the Packers back at their own one yard line. 195 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: Work in tandem with with Sam Shields, and then that 196 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: ends up being sort of a turning point in this 197 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: game with them being able to get the safety you 198 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:08,319 Speaker 1: need to get those type of players out of special teams. 199 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: And for the Rams, who are often considered one of 200 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 1: the trickiest, most skilled units in the league. You know, 201 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: Jim Jim Fossils guys, they really stepped up. Well, that's 202 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 1: where I think the Rams proved that they are the 203 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 1: best team in the NFL right now in that throughout 204 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: the majority of that first half, the Packers had the 205 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: Rams defense on their heels a little bit. The Packers 206 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: defense had Jared Goff a little discombobulated in the pocket 207 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: with the sacks and the different third down pressures and 208 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:39,319 Speaker 1: everything the offense and the defense for the Rams were scuffling, 209 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: their special teams picked them up. And that's what the 210 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: best teams in the league have. You always have one 211 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 1: phase that is going to bail you out, that is 212 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: going to keep you where you need to be and 213 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: give you a chance to win until everybody else gets 214 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: going like they're used to. Because you're undefeated for a reason. 215 00:09:56,600 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: You you've won all these games because you're offense and 216 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: defense can get the job done. And once the Rams 217 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: offense and defense started a roll, we saw it. I 218 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 1: mean the game went from ten to nothing Packers to thirteen. Rams. 219 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 1: There's a stretch there where the Rams outscored the Packers 220 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: twenty three to three. They played a stretch of that 221 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: game like they expected to. I give the Packers credit 222 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 1: to thirteen in the second half, not a lot going 223 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: their way. They kept throwing punches. They came back with 224 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: a couple of touchdown drives there, especially the big play 225 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,559 Speaker 1: to Davante Adams on third down when the Packers it 226 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 1: only converted one third down all day up until that point. 227 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 1: Roger sits Adams for the big third down, the draw 228 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:38,559 Speaker 1: play to Aaron Jones. You get a touchdown, Suddenly you're 229 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: right back in it. And then you put together another 230 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 1: touchdown drive after that with a great inside move by 231 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: the rookie Marquez Velde scantling on the one on one 232 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:50,439 Speaker 1: coverage on the outside, he makes the inside move, gets open, 233 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers puts the ball right on the money. His 234 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: speed takes care of the rest of the pylon for 235 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: the Packers to come back with two touchdowns there after. 236 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 1: The way that game was going I thought was really 237 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 1: really impressive because the Rams were starting to impose their will, 238 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 1: so to speak, in the game. And uh, and the 239 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: Packers responded. Unfortunately, it just wasn't quite enough. Yeah, getting 240 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 1: back to my original point, Uh, John Fossil, Sorry, I 241 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: said Jim there to correct, make sure you get the 242 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 1: right fossil. But um, I think one of the things 243 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: you bring up is really interesting. And when you look 244 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 1: at Davante Adams those plays that he made, specifically, if 245 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: the Packers do find a way to win this, I 246 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:27,319 Speaker 1: thought that this was one of the shining moments in 247 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: Davante adams career because you know how badly they needed 248 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 1: both of those third down conversions, specifically that second one. 249 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 1: They needed something to go their way because it was 250 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 1: one of the more bizarre games I've covered in the 251 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 1: standpoint of You're right they did. The Rams did get 252 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 1: on a big rally there and they were able to 253 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: come back and grab the lead, but it wasn't like okay, 254 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: they cut it to ten to eight, and then they 255 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: came on at the second half and just ran down 256 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 1: the field and scored again. The Packers got a three 257 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:54,199 Speaker 1: and out and then and added a field goal, and 258 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 1: then the Rams finally got going after that. So for 259 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 1: the Packers, they needed a response. They needed young guys 260 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 1: to emerge. They needed a guy like Davante Adams to emerge. 261 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: He did that, and I think when you look at 262 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: Aaron Jones, how consistent he was throughout the course of 263 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: this game. I think he's averaging right now I don't 264 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:13,079 Speaker 1: have in front of me. I think it might be 265 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: like seven yards of carry. Now. At this point, the 266 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: package featured him a little bit more. He rewarded them 267 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: for those snaps and then I mean, what can you 268 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: say about Marquis Valdo Scandling. I asked him this question 269 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: after the game and in talking with them in the 270 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: tunnel at the Colosseum. The fact that they did get 271 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 1: Geronimo Allison and Randall cob Back, and by no means, 272 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: I'm sure they had them on a rep column. They 273 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: wanted to be, you know, safe with them in the hamstring. 274 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 1: But the fact the Packers were that confident in Valdis 275 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: Scandling and Equinimius st. Brown. They ran packages where it 276 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: was just those two young receivers out there. They didn't 277 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: have the veterans they felt Mike McCarthy this offensive coaches have, 278 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 1: they felt confident enough of what those rookies had done 279 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: to this point to keep them on the field. When 280 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:58,079 Speaker 1: they got their veteran options back, the Packers got a 281 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 1: rally back. They're gonna have a tough opponent next Sun Night. 282 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: But offensively, the emergence that with young players like this 283 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 1: emerging in the offense, it allows them to open up 284 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: the playbook more and allows them be less predictable, and 285 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: I think obviously that had a big impact in what 286 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: they were able to do in terms of turning the 287 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 1: tide to that game against what a lot of people 288 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: consider to be the best team in football right now. Yeah, well, 289 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: before I forget amidst this discussion of a really entertaining 290 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: football game, I want to take care of this West 291 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: at home or here in the stands. We all know 292 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: that Green Bay fans give it their all and that 293 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: takes a lot of energy. So grab a warm bowl 294 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 1: of Campbell's Chunky Soup. It's meaty goodness fuels the greatness 295 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 1: of Packers fans everywhere. Try the delicious classic chicken noodle soup. 296 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: Just visit your local supermarket and ask for Campbell's Chunky Soup, 297 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: the official soup partner of the Green Bay Packers. Okay, West, 298 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: Another thing we definitely have to touch on here in 299 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 1: the aftermath of this game, the l A Coliseum was 300 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: lambeau Field Westable, Holy cow. I believe the announced attendance 301 00:13:54,080 --> 00:14:02,319 Speaker 1: was seventy five thousand plus and uh, if it wasn't 302 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 1: fifty fifty Packers Rams fans, it was somewhere awfully close 303 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: to that, because you could hear it right from the 304 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 1: beginning when when the Packers got their first sack on defense, 305 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: when they scored the first touchdown, Actually the roar was 306 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: pretty loud for Jimmy Graham when that was originally ruled 307 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: a touchdown, and then they got the touchdown later after 308 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: the reversal put the ball inside the one yard line. 309 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: But um, but boy, right from the get go, the 310 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: Packers fans made their presence felt, and they could be 311 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: heard all game long. There were more go Pack go 312 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: chance and during that game in l A. Than maybe 313 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: I've heard at a game at lambeau Field in quite 314 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: some time. That the fans, the fans, the fans showed up. 315 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: I give him credit. And and uh, as I said, 316 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: my the the headline for my insider inbox on Monday 317 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: morning was they deserved one more possession. And some fans 318 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: that I see in the inbox have misinterpreted that saying 319 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: that I'm thinking the Packers deserved one more and they 320 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: gave that possession away. I totally agree. My my line 321 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: there was that the fans who showed up and really 322 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: supported the Packers in that game, they deserved one more 323 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: possession to see if Aaron Rodgers could pull this game out. Yea. 324 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: And I think there are even some sentiments from the 325 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 1: Rams side that I mean, certainly they want to win 326 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: the game, but that did kind of take the drama 327 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: out of it at the end, based on how well 328 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 1: that game had been played up to that point by 329 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: both teams. Uh, it was just a fun atmosphere to 330 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: be a part of in some regard to kind of 331 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: reminded me a little bit. Hear me out on this 332 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: a little bit of the Metrodome as far as the 333 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: reporters were concerned, because the way that the press box 334 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: works there, it's sort of old school, and that you're 335 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: it isn't It's basically right on the side of the field, 336 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: but you know mid level, which you don't get kind 337 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: of mezzanine level and all of we had basically shutter 338 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: type windows that just opened and closed, and the crowds 339 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: just right in front of you. It reminded me of 340 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: the Metrodome in that regard that you could hear what 341 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: the fans were saying, you could feel the energy of 342 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: the crowd. It was a really cool atmosphere. I don't 343 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: know what it's been like for the Rams this year. 344 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 1: I know they're trying to recultivate that fan base, but 345 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: in terms of just a natural football game, was really 346 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: fun to be a part of because it almost reminded 347 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: me in some regards with like high school, because you had, 348 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: like the Packers fans when the Rams are on the field, 349 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: they were getting loud, and then you still had the 350 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: Rams contingent that weren't quite as loud when the Packers 351 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: around the field, but sort of going back and forth, 352 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: it was. It was fun to be a part of. 353 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: But but I think the tough part for the Packers 354 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: is that they did have at least a fifty fifty 355 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 1: crowd there on the road. You don't usually get an 356 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: opportunity like that. You just weren't able to turn it 357 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: quite into a victory. But as far as we will 358 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: probably end up being the only game I cover at 359 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: the Coliseum, it was interesting to be a part of. Yeah. Well, 360 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: as far as moving forward here for the Packers, you 361 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: said it, I said it. I do think this was 362 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: certainly given the opponent, this was the Packers best performance 363 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: of I think in order for this to mean something 364 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: west because there are no moral victories in the NFL, 365 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers said after the game, you don't get momentum 366 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: from a loss. It doesn't happen. But where this becomes 367 00:16:56,440 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: meaningful is if this now is the new standard play 368 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: for the two thousand eight teen Packers, if they play 369 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: like this more often, because we haven't, we haven't seen 370 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 1: an offensive and defensive complementary effort for four quarters like 371 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: we saw on Sunday. If that continues, I think victories 372 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: are going to follow. I think the Rams had a 373 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:19,400 Speaker 1: lot to do with the fact that the Packers did 374 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: not win this game. They are eight no at the 375 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 1: midway point of the season. But that's where if this 376 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:28,360 Speaker 1: doesn't become the Packers new standard of play, then this 377 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: is just another crappy loss. Yeah, and Clay Matthews basically 378 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 1: said the same thing and so many words afterwards when 379 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 1: he was asked about you know, if this is something 380 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,880 Speaker 1: you can build on and basically said it better be 381 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 1: better be something that we can leap frog from, because 382 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 1: there were a lot of positives to draw from. The 383 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: Packers put together a pretty good plan offensively and defensively 384 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: for how to attack the Rams. And we've seen it. 385 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: You know, they played a tight game against Seattle. This 386 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 1: team is just not this impenetrable force has just been 387 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: running through everybody, but they're finding ways to win. The 388 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:02,439 Speaker 1: Packers did put together a good plan to attack that, 389 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 1: but weren't able to pull it off. This stretch doesn't 390 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 1: get any easier though. You get New England, then you 391 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 1: get to come home against a team like Miami that 392 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:12,400 Speaker 1: you know they're not pushovers. And you are on your 393 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 1: own turf. But then you have a three day turnaround, 394 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 1: four day turnaround to go out to Seattle to play 395 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 1: the same team that's starting to feel it. You can 396 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 1: you can tell, you can tell. The December slate lines 397 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 1: up well for the Packers, but they got to take 398 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 1: care of business in November to set themselves up for 399 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 1: a run here. This has to be something you learned from. 400 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: It has to be something that motivates you and can 401 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:35,159 Speaker 1: really propel you into that third quarter of the season, 402 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:38,199 Speaker 1: because there it really was. If you step back, you 403 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 1: take the emotion of it, there were a lot of 404 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: positive to draw from. It's just that you didn't get 405 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 1: the W. Yeah, and this is where the Packers stand 406 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 1: in the NFC North. A lot of people are going 407 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 1: to say, well, the Packers are in third place. There 408 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:52,399 Speaker 1: also were the one final possession potentially from being in 409 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: first place if they pull out the game. Because the 410 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: Bears are four and three. The Vikings are four three 411 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: and one after a home lost to the New Orleans Saints, 412 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 1: who have not lost since Week one and are looking 413 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 1: just as good, perhaps if not better than the Rams. 414 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 1: And we're going to find out because they're going to 415 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: play each other here very soon. The Packers now three 416 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: three and one and the Detroit Lions are three and four. 417 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 1: You look at you look at where this is west. 418 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: The Vikings, Bears, and Lions have not played each other 419 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,880 Speaker 1: at all this season, So there's a lot of infighting 420 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:28,400 Speaker 1: in the NFC North that still has to take place 421 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:31,639 Speaker 1: amongst those teams. The Bears still have to play the Rams, 422 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 1: the Vikings still have to play at New England and 423 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:38,679 Speaker 1: at Seattle, just like the Packers do. So there's a 424 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: heck of a lot here left to be decided. I know, 425 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 1: I know Packers fans aren't happy with three three and one, 426 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 1: and this was a huge opportunity on Sunday in Los 427 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 1: Angeles that got away. But all you do is, you know, 428 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:56,640 Speaker 1: lace up the shoelaces, as they say, and go from here. Absolutely, 429 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 1: And if you're Mike McCarthy, I mean you just look 430 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 1: at what this team has done in the result and 431 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 1: see it's shown in the past, being able to work 432 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 1: through some of that early season adversity, to be able 433 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: to to put yourself in a position to win a 434 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 1: division title, to have a high, you know seed in 435 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: the playoffs and try to you know, Chase another one 436 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: of those Lombardi trophies. Like I just mentioned in my 437 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,159 Speaker 1: last answer, it comes back down though, to try and 438 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: to put this on film and breaking it down and 439 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 1: understanding what you need to do better. Mike Daniels and 440 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 1: one of the other things he said is that, you know, 441 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 1: we did a lot of good things well, but it 442 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 1: just you know, it wasn't quite enough. We have to 443 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 1: be better in different areas. We have to be better, 444 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: We have to tighten things up, and then maybe we'll 445 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 1: see this team again down the road. There were a 446 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 1: lot of guys that are very similar sentiment. Sharon Williams 447 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: said the same thing. These guys want another crack at 448 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 1: them and they don't mind if it ends up being 449 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: in the coliseum again. They feel like they can play 450 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: with anybody. And there's been ups and downs at this 451 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: point in the season, the first eight weeks, but Packers 452 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: still feel good about where they're at. It's just ultimately 453 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:54,439 Speaker 1: going to be about changing the tone and picking up 454 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:56,919 Speaker 1: some victories and instead of just trying to find some 455 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 1: moral victories. Yeah, all right, Well, with that, we've got 456 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: to go. We'll call it a wrap on this edition 457 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 1: of Packers. Unscripted. Be sure to follow all of our 458 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 1: coverage of the team on Packers dot com on Twitter, 459 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,360 Speaker 1: He's at west Hot I'm at Mike Spofford at Packers 460 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: for the team account. Thanks for tuning in, everybody, See 461 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 1: you next time. H