WEBVTT - RERUN: The CES Products That Never Made It

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to text Stuff, a production from I Heart Radio.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey there, and welcome to tech Stuff. I'm your host,

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<v Speaker 1>Jonathan Strickland, Diamond executive producer with I Heart Radio and

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<v Speaker 1>how the tech are you. You're likely to hear a

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<v Speaker 1>similar intro in a little bit with my old tagline

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<v Speaker 1>possibly uh. I am bringing you a rerun because it's

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<v Speaker 1>the new year, Happy New Year, and we are off today,

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<v Speaker 1>but of course I wanted to send you an episode

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<v Speaker 1>your way. So this is an episode that originally published

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<v Speaker 1>on January one, so not quite two years old. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>It's called the c e S Products That Never Made It.

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<v Speaker 1>I decided to rerun this one because this week is

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<v Speaker 1>when c e S Tree is taking place. I am,

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<v Speaker 1>of course I'm not there, my old be covering it

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<v Speaker 1>from the comforts of my home office, which honestly is

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<v Speaker 1>pretty nice. I do miss seeing all my colleagues at

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<v Speaker 1>c e S. That was always the highlight for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it was great seeing tech in person and

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<v Speaker 1>occasionally getting hands on experience with it. That was awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not I don't wish to dismiss that is a

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<v Speaker 1>really incredible experience, but it's the people who really made

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<v Speaker 1>it truly special. So I will miss that, and I've

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<v Speaker 1>got friends out there. Hi, Shannon, hope you're having a

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<v Speaker 1>great time out there, but yeah, I'm gonna be home anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the things about C E S that typically

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<v Speaker 1>gets a little frustrating over time is that not everything

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<v Speaker 1>you'll see when you're at the show will ever actually

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<v Speaker 1>make it to market. Sometimes it's because the thing you're

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<v Speaker 1>looking as a prototype. Sometimes it's because the company that

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<v Speaker 1>was going to introduce it doesn't exist anymore later on

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<v Speaker 1>in the year. So I thought you would enjoy this

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<v Speaker 1>episode from January one the C E S products that

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<v Speaker 1>never made it. Now, sometimes we see a product that

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<v Speaker 1>isn't bad, it's just ahead of its time. The implementation

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<v Speaker 1>of the technology might be a little on the crude side,

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<v Speaker 1>and the price tag might be a lot on the

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<v Speaker 1>high side, and so an idea, while a good one,

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<v Speaker 1>might not go very far. That might be why the

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<v Speaker 1>robot called Genus never really had a chance. Genus that's

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<v Speaker 1>g E n U S debuted at c S N.

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<v Speaker 1>The robot looks a little bit like a pedestal on wheels,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of similar to some of the robots that Samsung

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<v Speaker 1>showed off at the c E S T one like uh,

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<v Speaker 1>like the the bot Handy robot. However, the Genus robot

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<v Speaker 1>is a little more angular. It's not quite so smooth

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<v Speaker 1>and round as the other robots are. It's also quintessentially

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<v Speaker 1>eighties in style, so I recommend you check it out.

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<v Speaker 1>The promotional pamphlet for Genus said it is quote fully

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<v Speaker 1>programmed for beginners, yet is programmable for advanced users end quote.

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<v Speaker 1>Now clearly, the Robotics International Corporation, which was the company

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<v Speaker 1>behind Genus, saw how personal computers were beginning to take

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<v Speaker 1>off in the consumer market, and they knew that they

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<v Speaker 1>would need to remove some of the barriers of entry

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<v Speaker 1>for the average person, that is, the average wealthy person.

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<v Speaker 1>Because this robot, depending on the options you picked, could

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<v Speaker 1>cost upwards of twelve thousand dollars in ninety three, and

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<v Speaker 1>when we adjust that for inflation, that's more than thirty

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<v Speaker 1>thousand bucks today, a princely s I mean you could

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<v Speaker 1>buy a car for that. Anyway, Genus was to have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of cool features that we would later m

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<v Speaker 1>much later seeing products like the Roomba. It was supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to learn your home and map out

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<v Speaker 1>the environment and learn where obstacles were, so it could

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<v Speaker 1>avoid bumping into things and maneuver around. It could return

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<v Speaker 1>to its charging station on its own when its batteries

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<v Speaker 1>got got really low. Uh. It could even be equipped

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<v Speaker 1>with a vacuum. So gosh, I mean it was a roomba.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean not really. It wasn't like an official roomba,

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<v Speaker 1>but you get what I mean. The technology behind this

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<v Speaker 1>was pretty impressive for the day. It included stuff like

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<v Speaker 1>a computer system with at least forty eight whole killer

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<v Speaker 1>bytes of memory. Yalza, had a CRT display, had an

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<v Speaker 1>optional keyboard so you could program it if you wanted to,

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<v Speaker 1>had passive smoke detectors, motion detectors, and more. But Genus

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<v Speaker 1>never got much further than its debut at CES and

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<v Speaker 1>Robotics International Corporation would dissolve sometime in nine. Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>think the product was far too ambitious for the time.

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<v Speaker 1>It was certainly an indicator of where things would eventually

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<v Speaker 1>end up, although it would take a couple of decades,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're still seeing companies like the aforementioned Samsung introduced

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<v Speaker 1>large robots at c E S, so that trend continues

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<v Speaker 1>as well. We don't tend to see those large robots

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<v Speaker 1>actually getting adopted into the consumer market. But we see

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of that technology kind of trickled down into

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<v Speaker 1>other implementations like roombot. Speaking of Samsung and robots, we're

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<v Speaker 1>still waiting on BALI, that's the spherical robot that the

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<v Speaker 1>company showed off at c E S. For that matter,

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<v Speaker 1>we're still waiting on scout About. What's scout about? You ask, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's about always being prepared if I remember correctly. Huh,

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<v Speaker 1>how's a joke. No, really, The scout About was the

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<v Speaker 1>name of a line of robots Samsung showed off at

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<v Speaker 1>c E S. The scout About robots look like little

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<v Speaker 1>old domes on wheels. I read one review that said

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<v Speaker 1>it looked like little motorcycle helmets that were scooting around.

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<v Speaker 1>They could roam autonomously around your home, and the purpose

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<v Speaker 1>of the scout About was to monitor your home for

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<v Speaker 1>the purposes of safety. It was to have ultrasonic sensors

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<v Speaker 1>as well as a passive infrared system, and it would

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<v Speaker 1>let the robot sense everything from sounds to the presence

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<v Speaker 1>of smoke. And it also had a temperature sensor if

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<v Speaker 1>it were to detect a danger like a fire or

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<v Speaker 1>someone breaking a window to gain entry to a house,

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<v Speaker 1>it could sound an alarm and phone home to a

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<v Speaker 1>security service, which then could coordinate with authorities. Samsung said

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<v Speaker 1>the plan was for the robots to hit the market

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<v Speaker 1>by early spring of nineteen, with a price of somewhere

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<v Speaker 1>between a thousand and fifteen hundred dollars. So again, this

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<v Speaker 1>is n that would be somewhere between eighteen hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seven dollars today. However, the scout about never it

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<v Speaker 1>came out. Now, I'm not saying that last year's Bali

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<v Speaker 1>robot will also never come out, Nor am I saying

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<v Speaker 1>that Samsung's bought Handy robot demonstrated this year's virtual c

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<v Speaker 1>e s will never come out. But I wouldn't hold

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<v Speaker 1>my breath. All that being said, I think it's only

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<v Speaker 1>fair I point out that, at least in some cases,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not so much about a specific product, but rather

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<v Speaker 1>the advancement of the technologies that power that prototype or concept. So,

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<v Speaker 1>in other words, the bot Handy, which Samsung showed off

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<v Speaker 1>picking up a bottle of wine and pouring a glass

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<v Speaker 1>of wine for somebody, or another video where it showed

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<v Speaker 1>the robot filling up a dishwasher. It's not really necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>about the robot. It's showing off something that actually is

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<v Speaker 1>pretty darn cool, and that's the fact that the AI

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<v Speaker 1>guiding this robot gives the robot guidance on how hard

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<v Speaker 1>or soft the robot's grip should be whenever it picked

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<v Speaker 1>up something. You know, we humans get a pretty intuitive

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<v Speaker 1>grasp on that kind of stuff to use a pun,

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<v Speaker 1>but for robots it's different. A robot doesn't innately know

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<v Speaker 1>how tightly it needs to grip something, and so it

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<v Speaker 1>might approach a cinder block or a breeze block for

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<v Speaker 1>you folks in the UK, and a delicate champagne glass

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<v Speaker 1>with the same amount of gripping force. That would probably

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<v Speaker 1>not work out so well. It would either be two

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<v Speaker 1>week a grip for the center block and so it

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be able to pick it up, or it would

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<v Speaker 1>crush the glass and it's mighty robotic hand. Either way,

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<v Speaker 1>not exactly the result you're looking for now. All that

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<v Speaker 1>being said, the scout about was being demonstrated as if

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<v Speaker 1>it were actually about to go on the market, so

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<v Speaker 1>that particular example doesn't really fit into the hole. This

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<v Speaker 1>is more about showing off a technology than making an

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<v Speaker 1>actual product kind of thing. So maybe that was Samsung

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<v Speaker 1>learning its lesson. Some times the stuff we see at

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<v Speaker 1>C E S is really just meant to grab our

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<v Speaker 1>attention period and doesn't indicate a sincere desire to bring

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<v Speaker 1>a product to market. I'm pretty sure that was the

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<v Speaker 1>thinking that went into the twenty twenty robot marketed by

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<v Speaker 1>Sherman that is, the toilet paper company, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>called robot because that's genius, but not genus anyway. The

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<v Speaker 1>company had a booth set up complete with a toilet

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<v Speaker 1>where you could test out this robot, though you were

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<v Speaker 1>encouraged to, you know, not actually use the toilet. The

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<v Speaker 1>things you learn after experience. So you would sit on

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<v Speaker 1>the throne and you would call out for precious t

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<v Speaker 1>P allegedly by using an app on your smartphone, and

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<v Speaker 1>a little two wheeled self balancing robot with a face

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<v Speaker 1>plate that looked kind of like a a semi abstract

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<v Speaker 1>bear face, you know, very like like children's drawing kind

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<v Speaker 1>of bare face. The robot also had little ears on

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<v Speaker 1>top of that that the toilet paper roll would sit between,

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<v Speaker 1>and it would wheel out with that roll of toilet

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<v Speaker 1>paper on balanced on top of its head, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>flat side down obviously, otherwise it just roll all over

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<v Speaker 1>the place. And there was no way to see how

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<v Speaker 1>the robot, which had no arms, is just the wheels

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<v Speaker 1>and a box, and the toilet paper roll would be

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<v Speaker 1>on top of the box. There's no way to see

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<v Speaker 1>how the robot would get the roll of toilet paper

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<v Speaker 1>balanced on its head in the first place. I'm pretty

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<v Speaker 1>sure there's just some poor booth attendee behind the scenes

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<v Speaker 1>whose job it was to place rolls of toilet paper

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<v Speaker 1>on the self balancing robot before it would wheel out

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<v Speaker 1>of its alcove to the rescue. Again, this was never

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<v Speaker 1>really meant to come across as a real product. It

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<v Speaker 1>was more of a marketing gimmick. It is too bad, however,

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<v Speaker 1>because as we saw in getting hold of toilet paper

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<v Speaker 1>was sometimes a challenge, and it would be really useful

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<v Speaker 1>to have a robot bear do battle for you in

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<v Speaker 1>grocery stores to get t P. But that was not

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<v Speaker 1>meant to be Moving on. In five two years after

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<v Speaker 1>Genus rolled around at CS Commodore, the computer company that

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<v Speaker 1>had been a real contender in the early days of

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<v Speaker 1>home computers, revealed a portable computer and what's amazing is

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<v Speaker 1>that this one did not weigh a ton. A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the early portable laptops were portable in name only.

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<v Speaker 1>They typically had a handle like a briefcase, and it

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<v Speaker 1>required a strong back to lug around places. But the

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<v Speaker 1>Commodore l c D tipped the scales and a smelt

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<v Speaker 1>five pounds or about two point three kilograms. The Commodore

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<v Speaker 1>l c D looked a bit like a truncated laptop,

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe like a typewriter connected to a small flip

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<v Speaker 1>up l c D screen. That screen could display up

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<v Speaker 1>to sixteen lines of text, and it could run a

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<v Speaker 1>subset of software that was programmed for Commodore computers, but

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<v Speaker 1>the l c D was not fully compatible with the

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<v Speaker 1>Commodore desktop line. Had a Rockwell sixty five C one

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<v Speaker 1>O two processor running at a blistering one mega hurts

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<v Speaker 1>clock speed. It boasted thirty two kilobytes of memory, but

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<v Speaker 1>it was expandable up to sixty four kilobytes. Now. While

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<v Speaker 1>the company didn't announce a price for the planned product,

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<v Speaker 1>analysts estimated that it would have likely retailed for around

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<v Speaker 1>six hundred dollars, and in that would be let's see

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<v Speaker 1>for today's money about one thousand, one forty bucks. This

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<v Speaker 1>project became the victim of internal politics at Commodore, or

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<v Speaker 1>so the story goes. So the way the story works

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<v Speaker 1>is that the CEO of Commodore, Marshall Smith, was talking

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<v Speaker 1>to John Roach, the CEO of Tandy, another company that

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<v Speaker 1>was selling home computers, and during that conversation, Roach told

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<v Speaker 1>Smith that l c D s were going nowhere fast baby. Subsequently,

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<v Speaker 1>Smith decided to cancel the Commodore l c D project,

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<v Speaker 1>along with all other l c D related projects at Commodore,

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<v Speaker 1>and legend says that only five prototypes of the Commodore

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<v Speaker 1>l c D were ever made, but only two of

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<v Speaker 1>them have ever been officially verified. Let's jump around in

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<v Speaker 1>time a bit and more and head up to I

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<v Speaker 1>was actually at that ce S. One of the ways

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<v Speaker 1>that companies will try to stand out from the crowd

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<v Speaker 1>is to tap celebrities to announce or endorse products. I

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<v Speaker 1>was not the celebrity. I'm not a celebrity at all.

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<v Speaker 1>But these celebrities, these real celebrities, will make an appearance

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<v Speaker 1>at ce S for what I believe could be described

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<v Speaker 1>as here let me check my notes. Um, yeah, a

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<v Speaker 1>truckload of money at least I assume so. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I have no idea how much Slash was paid to

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<v Speaker 1>come on stage in two thousand and eight to play

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<v Speaker 1>the opening riff of Welcome to the Jungle for Bill

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<v Speaker 1>Gates and then just disappear and smoke. But I bet

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<v Speaker 1>he was paid way more than I made that entire year. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty eleven, a different celebrity showed off a product

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<v Speaker 1>to all her little monsters. Yep, Lady Gaga was at

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<v Speaker 1>c E s in. I'm actually really upset I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>get to go to the event where she announced this.

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<v Speaker 1>I really wanted to see it. I wasn't terribly familiar

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<v Speaker 1>with Lady Gaga, but I knew spectacle when I heard it,

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<v Speaker 1>but unfortunately I was elsewhere. Anyway, she was partnering with

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<v Speaker 1>Polaroid to allegedly design and then unveil the g L

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<v Speaker 1>twenty glasses, a pair of very boxy looking sunglasses with

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<v Speaker 1>a built in camera and a digital display that was

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<v Speaker 1>also built into the frames. And I guess that with these,

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<v Speaker 1>Lady Gaga could become the Papa Rozzie oh Lah poker face. There.

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<v Speaker 1>I've exhausted my Lady Gaga knowledge. Anyway, while Lady Gaga

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<v Speaker 1>could wear the glasses and look fashionably weird, I most

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<v Speaker 1>of us would just look weird wearing them. But it

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't matter, because a year later there were still no

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<v Speaker 1>g L twenty glasses on the market. Polaroid claimed to

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<v Speaker 1>still be planning a rollout, but another year went by,

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<v Speaker 1>and another, and by fourteen, Lady Gaga had bid au

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<v Speaker 1>revoir to Polaroid and the two had parted ways, still

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<v Speaker 1>no glasses. Lady Gaga's involvement with the project definitely got

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of attention, but in the end, there didn't

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<v Speaker 1>seem to be much of a payoff, and depending upon

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<v Speaker 1>the terms of that partnership, it may have been a

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<v Speaker 1>big loss for Polaroid, which I think is a shame

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<v Speaker 1>because I still have a soft spot for Polaroid cameras.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got more gadgets that never made it to prime

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<v Speaker 1>time coming up, but first let's take a quick break

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<v Speaker 1>and now for the that Smells funny category for c

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<v Speaker 1>S gadgets that never went anywhere. And I'm being literal

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<v Speaker 1>here because I want to chat about the I smell

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<v Speaker 1>from the company digit Sense. Yeah, this was a real thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I think of this as sort of the Internet generation

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<v Speaker 1>version of Smellow Vision. This one made the news back

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand one, so this was way before I

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<v Speaker 1>ever went to c E S. And I'm sorry about that,

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<v Speaker 1>because I wish I could have seen it in action.

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<v Speaker 1>The device looked like a little pod with a shark

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<v Speaker 1>fin like protrusion, and it had vents through which SENSE

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<v Speaker 1>could pump. The ideas that you would load this thing

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<v Speaker 1>up with some cartridges filled with scented oils, and the

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<v Speaker 1>device would heat up specific oils before using a fan

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<v Speaker 1>to blow the smell out of the vents. By heating

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<v Speaker 1>different combinations of those oils, it could produce different SENSE

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<v Speaker 1>and it would connect via USB to a computer. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>just imagine the possibilities. You're on your computer, you're checking

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<v Speaker 1>out possible vacation destinations online, and you're looking at a

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<v Speaker 1>beach in Hawaii, and then your nostrils detect the scent

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<v Speaker 1>of an ocean breeze. Maybe there's even a hint of

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<v Speaker 1>coconut there. Or maybe you're playing a video game and

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<v Speaker 1>you're rushing through a burning building and you can actually

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<v Speaker 1>smell something that resembles would smoke, Or maybe you're looking

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<v Speaker 1>at an ad for cookies and you smell, I mean cookies.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it definitely falls on the gimmicky side, but

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time you can kind of see how

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<v Speaker 1>incorporating smells into other computer activities could really increase a

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<v Speaker 1>sense of immersion. The team behind the I Smell included

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<v Speaker 1>Joel Lloyd Bellinson and Dexter Smith, both of whom had

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<v Speaker 1>backgrounds in business. They envisioned a database of smells with

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<v Speaker 1>an algorithm that would best match sense to whatever it

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<v Speaker 1>was the computer was, you know, encountering, so that way

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<v Speaker 1>you would have a relevant smell, so you wouldn't just have, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that smells like and rubber while I'm looking at Daisies.

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<v Speaker 1>That would make no sense now, I'm sure. They also

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<v Speaker 1>envisioned a world in which people would need to purchase

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<v Speaker 1>refills for those scented oil cartridges, kind of similar to

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<v Speaker 1>how printer companies really count on you having to order

0:18:14.240 --> 0:18:18.320
<v Speaker 1>lots of new printer toner cartridges. But unfortunately for the team,

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<v Speaker 1>the idea received a little more than ridicule, even for

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<v Speaker 1>the name I Smell. Now, keep in mind they were

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<v Speaker 1>launching this or trying to in two thousand one. That

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<v Speaker 1>was two years before Apple had even launched the iPod,

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<v Speaker 1>so they were actually anticipating the eye trend. The company

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<v Speaker 1>failed to release anything to market due to a distinct

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<v Speaker 1>lack of consumer interest, and it faded away, and it

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<v Speaker 1>really stinks. How about another category now, This one could

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<v Speaker 1>be called the old bait and switch, or in this case,

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<v Speaker 1>the belt and switch. And I'm talking about Belty, which

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<v Speaker 1>was one of those weird gadgets that gets a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of buzz because you know, it's not another or big

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<v Speaker 1>screen TV or fitness tracker. That's one of the reasons

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of these gadgets get a lot of coverage.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not just that they're weird, it is that they

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<v Speaker 1>stand out because it's not yet another version of something

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<v Speaker 1>that we see all the time. BELTI appeared in and

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<v Speaker 1>it was a smart belt. Yeah, like the thing that

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<v Speaker 1>holds up your trousers. BELTI was supposed to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to make automatic adjustments all on its own, tightening or

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<v Speaker 1>loosening as the occasion demands, such as when you go

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<v Speaker 1>from sitting down to standing up or vice versa. Small

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<v Speaker 1>motors inside the buckle would activate and increase or decrease

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<v Speaker 1>the tension on the belt. Accompanying the smart belt was

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<v Speaker 1>of course an app, and together belt and app would

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<v Speaker 1>track activity and give you a running tab on your waistline,

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<v Speaker 1>just in case you were worried that you were starting

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<v Speaker 1>to feel a little too good about yourself. And it

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<v Speaker 1>was going to market for around four hundred bucks. This

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<v Speaker 1>version of BELTI, however, failed to materialize beyond the demo

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<v Speaker 1>models that shows like c S. It was supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>go to market later in and instead the Belty that

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<v Speaker 1>would ultimately come out was a very different device. You

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<v Speaker 1>can buy a Belty today, but it is a ratchet

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<v Speaker 1>style belt, so you can make minor adjustments, but you

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<v Speaker 1>have to do so manually. There's no motorized buckle doing

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<v Speaker 1>it for you. The smart part of the belt, the

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<v Speaker 1>current Belty, is that it has a built in battery recharger,

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<v Speaker 1>so you can charge your phone on your belt and

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<v Speaker 1>plug your devices directly into the belt buckle. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>to give them more juice. Now, my guess is that

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<v Speaker 1>this recharging battery and the belt is itself a lithium

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<v Speaker 1>ion battery, and knowing how those can sometimes be a

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<v Speaker 1>little dodgy, I'd be a bit hesitant to strap one

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<v Speaker 1>right up against my pants. I mean, it's probably Okay, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean phones don't usually spawn taneously combust unless it's

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<v Speaker 1>the Samsung Galaxy Notes seven and a yeah, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>skip BELTI but hey, Jonathan, I hear you ask. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right, I can hear you. How about you talk

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<v Speaker 1>about a product that was demonstrably a bad idea and

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<v Speaker 1>that is why it never came to market. Okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess I will. Let's talk about the Mattel Aristotle because

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<v Speaker 1>who boy? Was that a bad idea and the reaction

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<v Speaker 1>to it would ultimately lead Mattel to cancel launch plans

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<v Speaker 1>for this device. Mattel unveiled the gadget at c E

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<v Speaker 1>S And if you really want an easy way to

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<v Speaker 1>describe this thing, all you have to do is say

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<v Speaker 1>it's Alexa, but you know, for kids, shout out to

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<v Speaker 1>the Hudsucker proxy for that one. Anyway, it was a

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<v Speaker 1>smart home assistant similar to Amazon Echo or Google Home.

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<v Speaker 1>Bundled with the smart speaker device was a camera, and

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<v Speaker 1>the whole package was supposed to retail for three dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>The back end of the system included stuff like image

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<v Speaker 1>recognition algorithms that could recognize specific things within a child's room.

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<v Speaker 1>Those specific things. I'm sure we'll surprise no one could

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<v Speaker 1>include other Mattel toys. I'm gonna paint a picture for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Not the Mattel ever said this, But this is just

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<v Speaker 1>something that I imagined when I was reading up on it.

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<v Speaker 1>So think for a moment that you're a little kid

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<v Speaker 1>and you're in your room, and then suddenly the smart

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<v Speaker 1>robot that lives in a speaker says to you, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>little so and so, how about you go pick up

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<v Speaker 1>that Hot Wheels car and play with it? Room room.

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<v Speaker 1>That sure is fun, isn't it. Man? You know what

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<v Speaker 1>helps would be fun if you had the super Ultra

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<v Speaker 1>Deluxe Stunt Spectacular Hot Wheels set. Then that car would

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<v Speaker 1>go really fast and you would be the most super

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<v Speaker 1>awesome cool kid in the universe. Hey, how about we

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<v Speaker 1>ask Santa for that this year? Yeah, that's a great

0:23:05.480 --> 0:23:09.879
<v Speaker 1>idea you had, so and so. All right, So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>definitely taking some major poetic license here, but you get

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<v Speaker 1>to where I'm going right, The idea being this could

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<v Speaker 1>easily become a tool that Mattel could have used to

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<v Speaker 1>try and convince kids to get more Mattel toys. Numerous

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<v Speaker 1>critics also pointed out the other very glaring problems with

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<v Speaker 1>privacy that a connected device complete with webcam would represent

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<v Speaker 1>for parents. And the fact is, Mattel did plan for

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<v Speaker 1>the smart device to allow you to do stuff like

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<v Speaker 1>place orders for things like diapers, for example, because Aristotle

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<v Speaker 1>could switch from child mode, where it would play with kids,

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<v Speaker 1>to adult mode and then tap into Amazon's Alexa assistant. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I found all of this particularly surprising, not because the

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<v Speaker 1>company would try to tap into that market that I

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<v Speaker 1>think was inevitable, but rather because Tell had already been

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<v Speaker 1>burned pretty badly with a Barbie doll called Hello Barbie

0:24:05.560 --> 0:24:10.159
<v Speaker 1>from earlier on. This WiFi connected doll was vulnerable to

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<v Speaker 1>being hijacked. According to a security researcher named Matt Jakubowski,

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<v Speaker 1>they could turn into a surveillance tool and spy on kids.

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<v Speaker 1>And that is beyond terrifying and so, faced with some

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<v Speaker 1>very tough questions, including some coming from politicians, Mattel decided

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<v Speaker 1>to scuttle the plans for Aristotle later in Alright, I've

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<v Speaker 1>talked about failed products, marketing, gimmicks, and stuff that falls

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere in between, But how about something that was called

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<v Speaker 1>a scam? I mean, that's what some people said the

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<v Speaker 1>Phantom console was all about. And I've talked about the

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<v Speaker 1>Phantom and other episodes recently when I talked about Google Stadia.

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<v Speaker 1>In two thousand four, the company behind the Phantom in

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<v Speaker 1>Phinium Labs, showed off the Phantom at c e S

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<v Speaker 1>at Windows Embedded Devices stand only it wasn't switched on

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<v Speaker 1>or connected to anything. It was really, you know, a box.

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<v Speaker 1>At this point, there was already speculation online that in

0:25:12.480 --> 0:25:15.800
<v Speaker 1>Phinium Labs wasn't totally on the up and up. There

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<v Speaker 1>were message boards filled with threads by users who claimed

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<v Speaker 1>to have visited the listed office address for the company

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<v Speaker 1>only to find unoccupied space. There were investigations into the

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<v Speaker 1>people behind the company, but the fact that the company

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<v Speaker 1>was part of c E S and associated with Microsoft

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<v Speaker 1>made people wonder if perhaps it was legit. Despite those

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<v Speaker 1>early misgivings. At c e S two thousand five, in

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<v Speaker 1>Phinium Labs would appear at the Nvidio booth. Visitors to

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<v Speaker 1>the booth had a chance to actually play games on

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<v Speaker 1>the console, but those games had already been installed on

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<v Speaker 1>the device, which meant no one could see how long

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<v Speaker 1>it would take to download a full game to the Phantom.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what the Phantom was meant be. It had no

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<v Speaker 1>optical drive, you were to download over a broadband connection

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<v Speaker 1>all the games you wanted to play on it. It

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<v Speaker 1>also meant that people would point out that this made

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<v Speaker 1>the Phantom no different from any other kind of computer,

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<v Speaker 1>because there are already computers that run the games that

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<v Speaker 1>were running on the Phantom. So, as far as anyone knew,

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<v Speaker 1>the Phantom so far consisted of a fabricated case that

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<v Speaker 1>could be around an otherwise mundane collection of PC parts.

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<v Speaker 1>The Phantom missed launch date after launch date, and eventually

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<v Speaker 1>it was clear that it was never going to come

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<v Speaker 1>out at all. Whether it was all a hoax from

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning or it was just a case of a

0:26:41.760 --> 0:26:46.320
<v Speaker 1>product languishing in development remains an open question. I'd like

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<v Speaker 1>to think that the team working on the Phantom were

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<v Speaker 1>sincere in their efforts. I have suspicions about some of

0:26:52.480 --> 0:26:55.879
<v Speaker 1>the business leaders, but I also suspect that the engineers

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<v Speaker 1>at in Phinium Labs were really trying to make a good,

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<v Speaker 1>robust system. In Vidium Labs would eventually produce actual products,

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<v Speaker 1>but they fell into categories like keyboards and stuff, not

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<v Speaker 1>actual consoles. One thing I've seen at numerous c e

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<v Speaker 1>S shows are devices that claim to read your brain

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<v Speaker 1>waves and generate a response based on them. That response

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<v Speaker 1>could be anything from an app encouraging you to relax

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<v Speaker 1>if it senses that you know you're being really tense

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<v Speaker 1>and anxious, or it could be a game where your

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<v Speaker 1>concentration affects what's going on. I'm reminded of a game

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<v Speaker 1>called mind Flex that I saw at C E S

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<v Speaker 1>one year. This one actually came out, so this is

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<v Speaker 1>something that did make it to market. This was a

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<v Speaker 1>toy from Mattel, or at least you know, distributed by Mattel,

0:27:43.119 --> 0:27:45.920
<v Speaker 1>that used a column of air to suspend a ping

0:27:46.000 --> 0:27:49.760
<v Speaker 1>pong ball as if the ball were levitating. A fan

0:27:50.160 --> 0:27:53.160
<v Speaker 1>inside the game's base would provide the column of air,

0:27:53.560 --> 0:27:56.959
<v Speaker 1>and you would wear a headset and by focusing, you

0:27:57.000 --> 0:27:59.920
<v Speaker 1>could cause that column of air to raise or lower

0:28:00.040 --> 0:28:03.080
<v Speaker 1>the ball. Essentially, what you're doing is changing the RPM

0:28:03.200 --> 0:28:07.119
<v Speaker 1>speed of the fan that's generating the column of air. Meanwhile,

0:28:07.320 --> 0:28:12.080
<v Speaker 1>a rotating playing field would introduce various obstacles, and only

0:28:12.160 --> 0:28:15.160
<v Speaker 1>by making the ball move to the correct height would

0:28:15.160 --> 0:28:18.199
<v Speaker 1>you be able to get through all the obstacles. The

0:28:18.240 --> 0:28:21.560
<v Speaker 1>headset relies on e G. Readings of brain waves, or

0:28:21.560 --> 0:28:24.760
<v Speaker 1>at least that's the claim. Now there's some disagreement about

0:28:24.800 --> 0:28:27.439
<v Speaker 1>whether or not it really works the way they claim

0:28:27.480 --> 0:28:30.840
<v Speaker 1>it does, or if it just presents the illusion of control.

0:28:31.240 --> 0:28:33.920
<v Speaker 1>But I don't see why it wouldn't be at least

0:28:33.960 --> 0:28:39.600
<v Speaker 1>theoretically possible, assuming you had decent sensors because e G s,

0:28:39.720 --> 0:28:42.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, picking up e G signals through the skull.

0:28:42.360 --> 0:28:45.440
<v Speaker 1>That's a little tricky. But anyway, let's get back to

0:28:45.480 --> 0:28:47.840
<v Speaker 1>what I really wanted to cover, and that's the Atari

0:28:47.880 --> 0:28:51.960
<v Speaker 1>mind Blink, which in some ways sounds similar like the

0:28:52.040 --> 0:28:55.280
<v Speaker 1>mind flex. This was a device that had a wearable

0:28:55.360 --> 0:28:58.200
<v Speaker 1>component to it. You would put on what looked like

0:28:58.280 --> 0:29:01.360
<v Speaker 1>a plastic headband had a wire attached to it that

0:29:01.400 --> 0:29:05.960
<v Speaker 1>would lead to an Atari console and you try to

0:29:06.000 --> 0:29:10.160
<v Speaker 1>control a video game using not your thoughts. Despite the

0:29:10.240 --> 0:29:13.680
<v Speaker 1>name mind link, you weren't, you know, focusing. Instead, you

0:29:13.720 --> 0:29:17.000
<v Speaker 1>were using the muscles in your forehead. The band had

0:29:17.040 --> 0:29:20.480
<v Speaker 1>infrared sensors that would pick up the movement of those muscles,

0:29:20.560 --> 0:29:23.600
<v Speaker 1>so by tensing or relaxing your forehead, you could send

0:29:23.640 --> 0:29:27.600
<v Speaker 1>commands as if you were holding some sort of controller. Uh,

0:29:27.760 --> 0:29:29.880
<v Speaker 1>it wouldn't work with just any game. It's not like

0:29:29.920 --> 0:29:33.200
<v Speaker 1>you could hook this up to an to play any title.

0:29:33.640 --> 0:29:38.000
<v Speaker 1>They had specific titles made for this device in particular. Uh,

0:29:38.040 --> 0:29:41.000
<v Speaker 1>the inputs are pretty primitive, so they were more like

0:29:41.280 --> 0:29:43.120
<v Speaker 1>the type of controls you would have with a paddle

0:29:43.240 --> 0:29:46.600
<v Speaker 1>based game like Breakout or Pong or something like that.

0:29:47.280 --> 0:29:50.440
<v Speaker 1>The mind Link was supposed to come out in four

0:29:50.840 --> 0:29:54.080
<v Speaker 1>but you know it didn't now. At the time, Atari

0:29:54.200 --> 0:29:56.960
<v Speaker 1>was also dealing with the total collapse of the home

0:29:57.080 --> 0:30:00.560
<v Speaker 1>video game market because the industry had suffered a autostrophic

0:30:00.640 --> 0:30:05.720
<v Speaker 1>failure in nineteen three due to many different factors, including

0:30:05.720 --> 0:30:10.040
<v Speaker 1>a saturation of the market and some supremely bad business decisions,

0:30:10.400 --> 0:30:13.560
<v Speaker 1>along with a lot of just garbage systems and games.

0:30:14.120 --> 0:30:17.840
<v Speaker 1>And no one was coming out of this sparkling clean.

0:30:18.160 --> 0:30:21.719
<v Speaker 1>Everybody had made some dumb decisions leading up to this,

0:30:22.200 --> 0:30:25.640
<v Speaker 1>and so the mind Link was never actually meant to be. Besides,

0:30:25.680 --> 0:30:27.880
<v Speaker 1>I hear a lot of users would actually get really

0:30:27.920 --> 0:30:30.520
<v Speaker 1>tired after using it for just a couple of minutes

0:30:30.560 --> 0:30:33.160
<v Speaker 1>because they were scrunching up their foreheads like crazy just

0:30:33.240 --> 0:30:37.160
<v Speaker 1>to get through a game, which doesn't sound like much fun. Okay,

0:30:37.160 --> 0:30:39.400
<v Speaker 1>we've got some more examples to chat about in a bit,

0:30:39.920 --> 0:30:51.160
<v Speaker 1>but first let's take another quick break. Of course, not

0:30:51.440 --> 0:30:55.160
<v Speaker 1>every gadget that fails to make it to market debuts

0:30:55.240 --> 0:30:58.720
<v Speaker 1>at c S. In fact, some companies preferred to announce

0:30:58.800 --> 0:31:02.680
<v Speaker 1>their latest innovation well outside the c e S trade

0:31:02.680 --> 0:31:06.280
<v Speaker 1>show window because it can be pretty hard to get

0:31:06.320 --> 0:31:09.760
<v Speaker 1>noticed in all the hoopla at c e S. And

0:31:09.760 --> 0:31:12.400
<v Speaker 1>there are a few examples of concepts and prototypes that

0:31:12.440 --> 0:31:16.120
<v Speaker 1>we learned about elsewhere that likewise never became a product

0:31:16.200 --> 0:31:18.440
<v Speaker 1>that you could actually buy. So I thought it would

0:31:18.480 --> 0:31:21.600
<v Speaker 1>cover a couple of the more notable ones we learned

0:31:21.600 --> 0:31:24.840
<v Speaker 1>about these examples outside the c e S show floor.

0:31:25.080 --> 0:31:27.640
<v Speaker 1>And sometimes the stuff we see announced is coming out

0:31:27.640 --> 0:31:30.680
<v Speaker 1>of a company that is going through a tumultuous time,

0:31:31.160 --> 0:31:33.240
<v Speaker 1>and the reason that the gadget never makes it beyond

0:31:33.280 --> 0:31:36.920
<v Speaker 1>the showroom floor is because of big changes inside the

0:31:36.920 --> 0:31:40.000
<v Speaker 1>company in an effort for it to remain relevant. That's

0:31:40.080 --> 0:31:42.200
<v Speaker 1>kind of what happened to the Commodore l c D,

0:31:42.520 --> 0:31:44.960
<v Speaker 1>It's kind of what happened to the Atari mind Link,

0:31:45.440 --> 0:31:48.920
<v Speaker 1>and it's also kind of what happened to the Palm Folio,

0:31:48.960 --> 0:31:51.400
<v Speaker 1>which I thought was a genuinely neat idea. Back in

0:31:51.440 --> 0:31:54.760
<v Speaker 1>the day, as the name tells you, the device came

0:31:54.840 --> 0:31:58.400
<v Speaker 1>from Palm Incorporated. Palm was known for being a leader

0:31:58.440 --> 0:32:01.760
<v Speaker 1>in personal digital assist stints back in the day, and

0:32:01.840 --> 0:32:05.440
<v Speaker 1>for those young uns among you, a personal digital assistant

0:32:05.520 --> 0:32:09.120
<v Speaker 1>in those days was kind of like a primitive smartphone,

0:32:09.520 --> 0:32:12.800
<v Speaker 1>only without the phone part. You would use one to

0:32:12.920 --> 0:32:17.040
<v Speaker 1>manage your contacts, take notes, keep your calendar, that kind

0:32:17.040 --> 0:32:21.000
<v Speaker 1>of thing, and typically you would physically connect these early

0:32:21.120 --> 0:32:25.160
<v Speaker 1>PDAs to a computer, usually using some sort of proprietary

0:32:25.280 --> 0:32:29.320
<v Speaker 1>cable or cradle, and you would synchronize data from a

0:32:29.400 --> 0:32:33.240
<v Speaker 1>computer program to your p d A. But by two

0:32:33.320 --> 0:32:37.480
<v Speaker 1>thousand seven, when Palm announced the Folio, Palm had progressed

0:32:37.600 --> 0:32:40.600
<v Speaker 1>from the simple PDAs of the past and was not

0:32:40.800 --> 0:32:45.040
<v Speaker 1>making smartphones like the Trio. Now, these smartphones catered more

0:32:45.160 --> 0:32:49.560
<v Speaker 1>to working professionals than to the mainstream crowd, kind of

0:32:49.600 --> 0:32:52.760
<v Speaker 1>like BlackBerry. Palm was a brand used mostly by white

0:32:52.760 --> 0:32:56.960
<v Speaker 1>collar executive types plus some nerdy tech journalist types that

0:32:57.040 --> 0:33:01.680
<v Speaker 1>I know, though there was some adoption beyond that niche market.

0:33:02.320 --> 0:33:04.680
<v Speaker 1>One such line of smartphones from Palm, as I mentioned,

0:33:04.720 --> 0:33:07.320
<v Speaker 1>was the Trio line of devices, and the Folio was

0:33:07.360 --> 0:33:11.760
<v Speaker 1>meant as a companion for handsets like the Trio. The

0:33:11.840 --> 0:33:17.400
<v Speaker 1>Folio was a very small laptop, categorized as a sub notebook.

0:33:17.800 --> 0:33:19.400
<v Speaker 1>In fact, if it had just come out a couple

0:33:19.440 --> 0:33:23.360
<v Speaker 1>of years later, we probably would have called it a netbook.

0:33:23.840 --> 0:33:27.480
<v Speaker 1>The computer didn't have super hefty specs. It was meant

0:33:27.520 --> 0:33:31.440
<v Speaker 1>to be a versatile, lightweight device that had a long

0:33:31.480 --> 0:33:35.520
<v Speaker 1>battery life. It used Lennox as its operating system. It

0:33:35.600 --> 0:33:38.840
<v Speaker 1>had two hundred fifty six megabytes of memory, a four

0:33:38.880 --> 0:33:43.520
<v Speaker 1>hundred sixteen mega Hurts processor, and an lc D display.

0:33:43.600 --> 0:33:46.200
<v Speaker 1>It was meant to be paired with a smartphone. It

0:33:46.320 --> 0:33:50.440
<v Speaker 1>had WiFi, but functions like email would work in concert

0:33:50.520 --> 0:33:53.880
<v Speaker 1>with the phone, rather than going from the Folio to

0:33:53.880 --> 0:33:56.520
<v Speaker 1>the WiFi network directly. It was a bit of an

0:33:56.520 --> 0:34:00.240
<v Speaker 1>odd duck in that regard. Palm marketed the device as

0:34:00.240 --> 0:34:04.000
<v Speaker 1>an alternative to heavier laptop computers, and pointed out that

0:34:04.120 --> 0:34:07.280
<v Speaker 1>pairing it with a smartphone would give users Internet access

0:34:07.400 --> 0:34:10.720
<v Speaker 1>even if there were no WiFi networks available in their area.

0:34:11.440 --> 0:34:14.920
<v Speaker 1>The pitch was really toward business users who travel a lot,

0:34:15.280 --> 0:34:18.400
<v Speaker 1>as the device suspects didn't fill many people with confidence

0:34:18.400 --> 0:34:20.680
<v Speaker 1>that you could use it to do other stuff like,

0:34:21.160 --> 0:34:24.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, watch videos or anything along those lines. But

0:34:24.560 --> 0:34:28.000
<v Speaker 1>then that's not the purpose that Palm was pushing it for.

0:34:28.600 --> 0:34:32.160
<v Speaker 1>The Folio never made it two stores. Palm actually canceled it,

0:34:32.239 --> 0:34:36.920
<v Speaker 1>choosing instead to focus on refreshing its smartphone technologies. Palm

0:34:36.960 --> 0:34:39.440
<v Speaker 1>was in a bit of an existential crisis at the time,

0:34:39.800 --> 0:34:43.080
<v Speaker 1>with analysts suspecting that the company would either go out

0:34:43.080 --> 0:34:46.680
<v Speaker 1>of business or accept some other companies offered to buy

0:34:46.719 --> 0:34:49.840
<v Speaker 1>it out. In two thousand eight, Palm showed off the

0:34:50.000 --> 0:34:54.239
<v Speaker 1>web Os operating system that's web Os and introduced the

0:34:54.320 --> 0:34:57.680
<v Speaker 1>Palm Pre smartphone at that year's ce S. That's the

0:34:57.680 --> 0:35:00.440
<v Speaker 1>product that actually did make it to market, but the

0:35:00.480 --> 0:35:03.319
<v Speaker 1>Pre failed to gain much traction in a market that

0:35:03.400 --> 0:35:06.680
<v Speaker 1>was already being dominated by Apple and the iPhone. And

0:35:06.760 --> 0:35:09.640
<v Speaker 1>it didn't help that Palm had signed an exclusive deal

0:35:09.800 --> 0:35:14.240
<v Speaker 1>with Sprint as the mobile carrier that limited the amount

0:35:14.400 --> 0:35:17.680
<v Speaker 1>of people that Palm could reach because it was only

0:35:17.680 --> 0:35:21.880
<v Speaker 1>for Sprint customers. In Hewlett Packard announced it was acquiring

0:35:21.880 --> 0:35:24.919
<v Speaker 1>Palm for one point to billion dollars in an all

0:35:24.960 --> 0:35:28.720
<v Speaker 1>cash deal. HP would later end all support for Palm

0:35:28.800 --> 0:35:31.880
<v Speaker 1>and web Os devices, and it seemed like Palm was

0:35:31.920 --> 0:35:35.719
<v Speaker 1>well and truly dead, but in a company called t

0:35:35.920 --> 0:35:39.160
<v Speaker 1>c L revealed it had acquired the Palm brand name,

0:35:39.719 --> 0:35:42.359
<v Speaker 1>and so the name lives on, though you could make

0:35:42.360 --> 0:35:45.440
<v Speaker 1>an argument that there's very little connective tissue to the

0:35:45.480 --> 0:35:49.600
<v Speaker 1>old Palm company. T c L, by the way, was

0:35:49.680 --> 0:35:52.120
<v Speaker 1>one of the companies that this past c E S

0:35:52.160 --> 0:35:55.839
<v Speaker 1>showing off concept smartphones with expanding oh LED screens, kind

0:35:55.840 --> 0:35:58.960
<v Speaker 1>of similar to the l G rollable. While we're on

0:35:59.000 --> 0:36:03.040
<v Speaker 1>the subject of innovative portable computing devices, let's talk about

0:36:03.080 --> 0:36:06.720
<v Speaker 1>the Microsoft Courier. Like the Folio, this was a concept

0:36:06.840 --> 0:36:10.000
<v Speaker 1>that we learned about outside of c S, with most

0:36:10.040 --> 0:36:13.680
<v Speaker 1>reports about the prototype device appearing in late two thousand nine.

0:36:14.280 --> 0:36:17.759
<v Speaker 1>This predated Apple's launch of the iPad, which makes it

0:36:17.840 --> 0:36:21.160
<v Speaker 1>even more impressive. Really, the idea was for a dual

0:36:21.200 --> 0:36:26.080
<v Speaker 1>screen portable computer device similar to a tablet, but really

0:36:26.120 --> 0:36:29.279
<v Speaker 1>more of a booklet. The device could fold into a

0:36:29.360 --> 0:36:32.800
<v Speaker 1>closed position like a book, with the two screens facing

0:36:32.800 --> 0:36:36.080
<v Speaker 1>one another. The device included a touch screen that users

0:36:36.120 --> 0:36:39.399
<v Speaker 1>could interact with using either their finger or a stylus.

0:36:39.960 --> 0:36:42.600
<v Speaker 1>The pitch for Courier was that this was meant to

0:36:42.600 --> 0:36:46.000
<v Speaker 1>be a device to allow for content creation. It was

0:36:46.040 --> 0:36:48.880
<v Speaker 1>meant for creatives who had less of an emphasis on

0:36:49.000 --> 0:36:53.560
<v Speaker 1>traditional productivity applications, and that set it as distinct from

0:36:53.560 --> 0:36:58.680
<v Speaker 1>Microsoft's mainstream strategy. It ran on a modified version of Windows,

0:36:58.719 --> 0:37:02.000
<v Speaker 1>and ultimately the act that it didn't fall right in

0:37:02.080 --> 0:37:06.520
<v Speaker 1>line with Microsoft product strategy kind of doomed the courier. Also,

0:37:06.600 --> 0:37:09.680
<v Speaker 1>a different team inside Microsoft was working to develop a

0:37:09.719 --> 0:37:13.840
<v Speaker 1>Windows variant for tablet computers, which would represent a forked

0:37:13.920 --> 0:37:16.879
<v Speaker 1>development path, and that in general is a bad thing

0:37:16.920 --> 0:37:20.920
<v Speaker 1>if you want a cohesive strategy. By Microsoft had killed

0:37:20.960 --> 0:37:24.840
<v Speaker 1>the project. Now I mentioned Razor and it's Project Hazel,

0:37:24.880 --> 0:37:29.480
<v Speaker 1>which is a smart mask within certification that we don't

0:37:29.560 --> 0:37:33.760
<v Speaker 1>really expect to see come to market. There's also Project Brooklyn,

0:37:33.960 --> 0:37:38.239
<v Speaker 1>the smart gaming chair concept that has a rollable display

0:37:38.280 --> 0:37:40.880
<v Speaker 1>that extends from the back of the chair over the

0:37:40.920 --> 0:37:42.920
<v Speaker 1>head of the person who's sitting in the chair. Then

0:37:42.920 --> 0:37:45.080
<v Speaker 1>it stretches the screen out right in front of them

0:37:45.080 --> 0:37:47.439
<v Speaker 1>at head level. I don't think we're going to see

0:37:47.440 --> 0:37:49.880
<v Speaker 1>either of those in the real world, at least not

0:37:50.000 --> 0:37:54.000
<v Speaker 1>in those forms. But Razor has a history of doing this,

0:37:54.480 --> 0:37:56.560
<v Speaker 1>not that I think the company is trying to pull

0:37:56.600 --> 0:37:59.520
<v Speaker 1>a fast one or anything. It's often using some pretty

0:37:59.520 --> 0:38:03.640
<v Speaker 1>ambitious designs to help push the general industry forward or

0:38:03.719 --> 0:38:07.279
<v Speaker 1>to propose alternatives to how things are traditionally done. The

0:38:07.280 --> 0:38:09.920
<v Speaker 1>fact that these projects might not ever hit the consumer

0:38:09.960 --> 0:38:13.400
<v Speaker 1>market is kind of a drag. But in the process

0:38:13.440 --> 0:38:17.279
<v Speaker 1>of creating these projects, Razor is pushing designers and engineers

0:38:17.280 --> 0:38:20.319
<v Speaker 1>to think beyond their normal parameters, and that can often

0:38:20.400 --> 0:38:23.400
<v Speaker 1>lead to technologies we actually will see out in the wild,

0:38:23.840 --> 0:38:27.560
<v Speaker 1>although they often do not resemble the audacious projects that

0:38:27.680 --> 0:38:32.920
<v Speaker 1>spawned those technologies. Take Project Christine, for example. This was

0:38:32.960 --> 0:38:37.080
<v Speaker 1>a really cool idea that Razor floated in two thousand fourteen.

0:38:37.560 --> 0:38:41.680
<v Speaker 1>It was a PC design with an incredibly modular approach.

0:38:42.160 --> 0:38:46.320
<v Speaker 1>So imagine a stand. This is your base computer unit,

0:38:46.880 --> 0:38:50.799
<v Speaker 1>and in the stand you could plug various modules, like

0:38:50.960 --> 0:38:53.799
<v Speaker 1>a module that has a CPU in it, or one

0:38:53.880 --> 0:38:57.000
<v Speaker 1>that has a specific GPU, or maybe it's a power

0:38:57.080 --> 0:39:01.160
<v Speaker 1>supply module or a memory module or it's storage. You

0:39:01.200 --> 0:39:04.240
<v Speaker 1>can mix and match. You could create a customized PC

0:39:04.280 --> 0:39:06.880
<v Speaker 1>to your liking, and you wouldn't have to worry about

0:39:07.160 --> 0:39:09.640
<v Speaker 1>stuff that otherwise is a big part of building your

0:39:09.680 --> 0:39:13.839
<v Speaker 1>own PC, like is this processor compatible with this motherboard?

0:39:14.160 --> 0:39:16.799
<v Speaker 1>All that would be taken care of for you, and

0:39:16.800 --> 0:39:19.920
<v Speaker 1>the modular design means it would be easy to swap

0:39:19.960 --> 0:39:23.280
<v Speaker 1>out components. So let's say your graphics card is getting

0:39:23.280 --> 0:39:26.080
<v Speaker 1>a little bit long in the tooth. You could unplug

0:39:26.320 --> 0:39:28.840
<v Speaker 1>that module from your base tower and swap in a

0:39:28.920 --> 0:39:33.160
<v Speaker 1>new GPU module or maybe multiple GPUs, and each module

0:39:33.160 --> 0:39:36.080
<v Speaker 1>would have its own cooling system. According to Razor, it

0:39:36.200 --> 0:39:39.799
<v Speaker 1>was active liquid cooling, and it also had noise cancelation,

0:39:39.880 --> 0:39:43.160
<v Speaker 1>so it would run quietly. What it did not have

0:39:43.520 --> 0:39:46.720
<v Speaker 1>is a release date. And again this isn't to really

0:39:46.840 --> 0:39:50.839
<v Speaker 1>lay fault at Razor's feet. A project as ambitious as

0:39:50.920 --> 0:39:54.959
<v Speaker 1>Christine would require buy in from more than just consumers.

0:39:55.360 --> 0:39:57.880
<v Speaker 1>Razor would have to partner with the various companies that

0:39:58.000 --> 0:40:01.960
<v Speaker 1>were making GPUs and epus and memory cards and power

0:40:02.000 --> 0:40:04.840
<v Speaker 1>supplies and all that other stuff. There would need to

0:40:04.880 --> 0:40:08.319
<v Speaker 1>be a coordinated effort to build out modules that were

0:40:08.360 --> 0:40:12.280
<v Speaker 1>compatible with the system. And you know that just didn't happen,

0:40:12.760 --> 0:40:15.120
<v Speaker 1>and there's a lot of inertia to overcome in the

0:40:15.160 --> 0:40:19.120
<v Speaker 1>PC space to make something like Christine a reality. I

0:40:19.160 --> 0:40:22.520
<v Speaker 1>think it was a really interesting idea, one that could

0:40:22.560 --> 0:40:26.520
<v Speaker 1>be transformational if enough companies agreed to make components that

0:40:26.520 --> 0:40:30.440
<v Speaker 1>would fit the modular standard. But I'm also not surprised

0:40:30.719 --> 0:40:32.840
<v Speaker 1>that there wasn't a lot of buy in on that front,

0:40:32.880 --> 0:40:35.799
<v Speaker 1>because pretty much everyone wants to be the one to

0:40:35.920 --> 0:40:38.600
<v Speaker 1>define the standard rather than the one who has to

0:40:38.640 --> 0:40:41.440
<v Speaker 1>conform to the standards that were made by somebody else.

0:40:42.239 --> 0:40:46.320
<v Speaker 1>Another Razor project that wild crowds but did not transition

0:40:46.360 --> 0:40:50.799
<v Speaker 1>to a consumer product was project Ariana, a projector. This

0:40:50.840 --> 0:40:54.200
<v Speaker 1>one was really wild. So this projector had two three

0:40:54.280 --> 0:40:57.319
<v Speaker 1>D cameras that would actually be used to scan the

0:40:57.400 --> 0:40:59.839
<v Speaker 1>room you had it in, so that way it would

0:41:00.239 --> 0:41:03.919
<v Speaker 1>the perfect projection. And then when it was time for you, to, say,

0:41:03.960 --> 0:41:08.160
<v Speaker 1>play a game, the projector would communicate with that game

0:41:08.320 --> 0:41:13.040
<v Speaker 1>and effectively extend your viewing area beyond the borders of

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<v Speaker 1>your display. So you're still playing your game on your

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<v Speaker 1>computer looking at your computer screen, but the projector extends

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<v Speaker 1>that view beyond what you see on the screen, so

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<v Speaker 1>you can kind of see, you know, beyond the edges

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<v Speaker 1>of the frame. It is really an interesting notion. The

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<v Speaker 1>projector would also create interesting lighting effects to coordinate with

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<v Speaker 1>the game and enhance your experience. It really did sound

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<v Speaker 1>super nifty. I'm sad this one never really made it

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<v Speaker 1>beyond the conceptual stage because it sounds truly immersive. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it would also be a little on the unfair side.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you're able to extend your view beyond

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<v Speaker 1>what most people can see, maybe then you could, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're playing a competitive game, see players before they could

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<v Speaker 1>put possibly see you. I s. That might be a

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<v Speaker 1>thing that could be an issue. But how about Project Valerie.

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<v Speaker 1>This was a Razor concept laptop that featured not one,

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<v Speaker 1>not two, but three screens. The screens would sit in

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<v Speaker 1>a stack, so you could use it as a single

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<v Speaker 1>screen laptop, or folding arms could extend a pair of

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<v Speaker 1>extra displays, one to either side of the central screen.

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<v Speaker 1>Razor called it a way to create surround view with

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<v Speaker 1>a resolution of eleven thousand, five twenty by two thousand sixty.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a crazy resolution. They also called it twelve K

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<v Speaker 1>because it would be a four K screen. Of four

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<v Speaker 1>K screen and a four K screen. You could get

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<v Speaker 1>a real panoramic view of a game this way, or

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you could use it so that you're playing a

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<v Speaker 1>game on one screen, you're looking at oh B S

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<v Speaker 1>over at Twitch on a second screen, and then you're

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<v Speaker 1>monitoring chat on your third screen, which would make this

0:42:53.840 --> 0:42:58.440
<v Speaker 1>laptop the portable video game streamer rig of Dreams and Wonders.

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<v Speaker 1>But Valerie also never came to market. There are some

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<v Speaker 1>multi screen laptops out there these days, but they tend

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<v Speaker 1>to be in a very different form factor than what

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<v Speaker 1>we saw with the Valorie concept. For example, the Asus

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<v Speaker 1>r O g SZI Furious Duo fifteen, which has a

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<v Speaker 1>main display and then just mounted above where the keyboard is,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a little hinged system that tilts up a bit

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<v Speaker 1>where you have a touch screen display. That touch screen

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<v Speaker 1>is very wide, but it's also very short, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>not like a true it's not a second screen that

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<v Speaker 1>that mirrors the size of your primary screen. It's uh

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<v Speaker 1>an additional workspace, really a touch screen workspace. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how useful it is. I don't know how well

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<v Speaker 1>it works as an extension of your main screen, but

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<v Speaker 1>it is interesting that we're seeing some actual consumer product

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<v Speaker 1>versions of a laptop that has more than one screen.

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<v Speaker 1>It might not be the enormous beast that Valerie was,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's a step in that direction. And that's all

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<v Speaker 1>I've got for today's episode. Clearly, there are countless other

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<v Speaker 1>examples of products that were announced at one point, but

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<v Speaker 1>never ever made it to the consumer market. They're probably

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more failures out there than successes. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure there's tons that we never heard of, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's just the nature of things. If you're trying something new,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not always gonna work. But I do like the

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<v Speaker 1>spirit of innovation. I like the creativity. I like the

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<v Speaker 1>audacity of some of these projects that uh never made it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very curious what what the world would be like

0:44:37.000 --> 0:44:40.879
<v Speaker 1>if the I smell had really taken off. I hate

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<v Speaker 1>to think of what some of my favorite websites would

0:44:42.880 --> 0:44:45.920
<v Speaker 1>smell like. I guess I don't have to worry about that.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you enjoyed that classic episode of tech Stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess not classic. It's only like two years old, right,

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<v Speaker 1>not even but I hope you enjoyed it. We will

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<v Speaker 1>be back tomorrow with brand new episodes of tech Stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>We are going to have an incredible twenty three I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just I'm putting that out in the universe. I don't

0:45:06.600 --> 0:45:09.880
<v Speaker 1>believe in the wish or any of those things, but

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<v Speaker 1>I you know what, I'll take whatever I can get

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<v Speaker 1>because I think I think we need a good, solid,

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<v Speaker 1>positive year I'm not sure we're going to get it,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm gonna do my best, and I'm sure all

0:45:23.600 --> 0:45:25.880
<v Speaker 1>of you out there will. We'll try your best to

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<v Speaker 1>Hope you're well, hope you had a wonderful New Year celebration,

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