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Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody to the Monday edition of the Clay

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Speaker 1: Travis and Buck Sexton Show, also known as Clay and Buck.

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Speaker 1: To many of you across this great lent biggest story

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Speaker 1: in the country by far, as I'm sure many of

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Speaker 1: you know if you were tuning in online or on

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Speaker 1: TV or anything over the weekend opening a newspaper, it

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Speaker 1: is another fatal shooting in Minneapolis, Minnesota, involving immigrations and

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Speaker 1: customs enforcement. We will give you the details of this. Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: Minneapolis has become the front line, the battle front when

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Speaker 1: it comes to the Trump administration's immigration enforcement efforts. There

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Speaker 1: is no other policy initiative or action that is anywhere

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Speaker 1: near as contentious right now, and I would argue central

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Speaker 1: to the success or failure of the second Trump administration

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Speaker 1: their you just told me that. Moments ago, President Trump

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Speaker 1: shared that he had called Tim Walls. Why didn't tell

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Speaker 1: us what? The Trump?

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Speaker 2: What?

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Speaker 1: The Trump?

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Speaker 3: What?

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Speaker 1: The President? Also, the Trump is telling everybody about that

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Speaker 1: phone call. Just a few minutes ago, President Trump posted

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Speaker 1: as follows, Governor Tim Walls called me with the request

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Speaker 1: to work together with respect to Minnesota. It was a

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Speaker 1: very good call and we actually seem to be on

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Speaker 1: a similar wavelength. I told Governor Walls that I would

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Speaker 1: have Tom Homan call him and that what we are

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Speaker 1: looking for are any and all criminals that they have

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Speaker 1: in their possession. The Governor very respectfully understood that, and

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Speaker 1: I will be speaking to him in the near future.

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Speaker 1: He was happy that Tom Holman was going to Minnesota,

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Speaker 1: and so am I. We have had such tremendous success

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Speaker 1: in Washington, d C. Memphis, Tennessee, and New Orleans, Louisiana

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Speaker 1: and virtually every other place that we have touched, and

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Speaker 1: even in Minnesota, crime is way down. And even in

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Speaker 1: Minnesota crime is way down. But both Governor Walls and

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Speaker 1: I want to make it better President Donald J. Trump,

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Speaker 1: So that buck has come out in the last ten

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Speaker 1: or fifteen minutes seems to me that both Walls and

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Speaker 1: I think is an easy way to read pretty transparently

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Speaker 1: that statement and the phone call that they just had, well,

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Speaker 1: that's certainly a different direction than Walls was heading in

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Speaker 1: when he openly compared the Ice enforcement operations to the

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Speaker 1: Nazi Gestapo hunting down Jewish men, women and children in

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Speaker 1: the Netherlands. For example, here he is talking about how

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Speaker 1: we've all read and Frank. This has cut one Someone's

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Speaker 1: going to run an An Frank's story about Minnesota.

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Speaker 4: We have got children in Minnesota hiding in their houses,

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Speaker 4: afraid to go outside.

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Speaker 1: Many of us grew.

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Speaker 4: Up reading that story of Ann Frank. Somebody's going to

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Speaker 4: write that children's story about Minnesota. And there's one person

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Speaker 4: who can end this now, and I'll go back to

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Speaker 4: it again. Please show some decency, pull these folks out,

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Speaker 4: reset this situation, and allow us to do the job

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Speaker 4: that the Attorney General myself were elected to do, protect

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Speaker 4: the people of Minnesota and carry out the laws of Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't want to carry out the laws because he

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Speaker 1: doesn't want federal law enforcement to do their job. He's

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Speaker 1: still in America. Minneapolis, despite what they may think, very

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Speaker 1: much falls under the jurisdiction of the United States federal government.

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Speaker 1: Clay comparing this to bringing up Anne Frank in this

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Speaker 1: context is pretty pretty horrific, reckless. But I think that

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Speaker 1: the slander is the point. I think that inflaming this

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Speaker 1: is exactly the idea. Look, we need to dive into

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Speaker 1: the specifics on this, and I'm actually curious for people

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Speaker 1: out there that have worked in law enforcement, that have

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Speaker 1: analyzed these videos and everything else. But yeah, the and

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Speaker 1: Frank analogy is absurd. The third day of the Battle

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Speaker 1: of Gettysburg analysis from Tim Walls was awful. This is

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Speaker 1: not a smart man who certainly is not very able

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Speaker 1: to interact I think in a dynamic, ever changing situation

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Speaker 1: in an intelligent way. But let's go into yeah, to

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Speaker 1: take us through the play by play video here in

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Speaker 1: the situation. Yeah, so, first of all, I hate to

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Speaker 1: be right, but you and I were entirely correct about this.

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Speaker 1: The intent when you are showing up in the middle

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Speaker 1: of ICE operations is to provoke, is to in some

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Speaker 1: way create these situations, these shootings, these violent interactions, and

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Speaker 1: people out there say, no, these are peaceful protesters. There's

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Speaker 1: no intent. Back in July, Axios published a story that

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Speaker 1: said the goal was to get people shot and try

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Speaker 1: to create momentum politically against ICE itself. And so this individual,

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Speaker 1: I'm not interested in casual observers, people who have been

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Speaker 1: involved in shooting investigations and everything else. I watch this thing, Buck,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure as you did many many different times from

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Speaker 1: a variety of different angles. This guy was armed. What

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Speaker 1: it looks to me like his weapon is then discharged

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Speaker 1: it's a tragic accident. And again I think it's a

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Speaker 1: direct result of both individuals engaging in behavior, all of

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Speaker 1: these protesters who are trying to antagonize and create violent situations,

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Speaker 1: violent interactions, uh and the ICE agents who are on

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Speaker 1: edge because they're constantly being accosted by all of these protesters.

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Speaker 1: And so unfortunately, this is the intent, this is the goal.

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Speaker 1: This isn't a full on accident. This is what they want.

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Speaker 1: They want violent confrontations. And much like the Renee Good

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Speaker 1: situation and now this situation, it would have never occurred

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Speaker 1: agents from being able to do their jobs. Now, I

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Speaker 1: think there should be a full investigation into the shooting

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Speaker 1: to figure out whether or not it was a legally

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Speaker 1: authorized shooting. I think ICE to be fair the statement

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Speaker 1: that this guy was a domestic terrorist or he was

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Speaker 1: trying to mow down people. Unless they have additional evidence,

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Speaker 1: and maybe they do, I haven't seen anything to suggest

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Speaker 1: that that is true. I don't think it's helpful to

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Speaker 1: get way out narratively in advance of things that you

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Speaker 1: can't prove. If I were, and I don't know if

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Speaker 1: you would sign off on this or not, Buck, but

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Speaker 1: if I were, I said this, and I've said it

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Speaker 1: for a long time. If I were advising my own kids,

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Speaker 1: there's a difference between a right that you have and

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Speaker 1: something that aids and increases risk. If I were advising

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Speaker 1: would say, don't take a weapon. You may have the

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Speaker 1: right to have a weapon, but I think if this

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Speaker 1: not saying it shouldn't be legal. I'm saying I think

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Speaker 1: I mean, Clay, I could every time I went out

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Speaker 1: to walk the dog here in my neighborhood legally now

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Speaker 1: it and slinging around my shoulder. I could. Doesn't mean

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Speaker 1: it's a good idea, right, I mean, you know, it's

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Speaker 1: mean if you're just doing it to do it. I

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Speaker 1: know there's open carry advocates out there are gonna get

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Speaker 1: there's not a lot of hunting in Miami Beach. Okay,

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Speaker 1: it's not a good Again. I'm not saying it should

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Speaker 1: saying this, Clay, I put this on X. These are

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Speaker 1: sabotage operations. These are not protests. They're not trying to

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Speaker 1: or they're engaged in ice enforcement operations, they have a

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Speaker 1: the law because you don't like the law. And that's

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Speaker 1: exactly what's going on here. And so if you're going

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Speaker 1: to carry a firearm into a sabotage operation, you are

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Speaker 1: And if you're engaged in any kind of illegal activity,

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Speaker 1: and I would argue that obstructing law enforcement, well, I

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Speaker 1: me that that was the intent here. Remember, initially people

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Speaker 1: always the initial report. It just happened to be passing through. No,

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Speaker 1: he was part of this anti ice operation. And anytime

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Speaker 1: and you're dealing with law enforcement. Clay, there's height intention.

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Speaker 1: I could tell you any concealed carr class worth that salt.

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Speaker 1: you're going to carry a pistol. Why does he have

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Speaker 1: so it's so belligerent and stupid. And I'm sorry this

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Speaker 1: even saying maybe the pistol discharge without And now I'm

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Speaker 1: discharge on its own from a gun that hasn't been dropped,

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Speaker 1: have discharge is what I'm saying, doesn't happen, basically doesn't happen.

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Speaker 1: Please do not I do not take it. I do

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Speaker 1: not have and I don't want It's funny usually worried

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Speaker 1: about like defaming people. I don't want to defame a

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Speaker 1: firearm's brand here. Well, this is ironic. After your attack.

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Speaker 1: You're a vicious attack on the old men in their gun.

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Speaker 1: Oh cold nineteen No, I mean old men gun. That's fine,

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Speaker 1: entire policy agenda just because you don't like it. And

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Speaker 1: that's what's going on in Minneapolis. And it's a very

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Speaker 1: obvious play because it's not happening anywhere else. They've made

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Speaker 1: a decision, and there's some interesting analyzes out there, some

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Speaker 1: of them have gone viral on x of You know,

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Speaker 1: we have so much counterinsurgency knowledge, both in this audience

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Speaker 1: and more broadly across America because of all of our

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Speaker 1: g WAD veterans who really live this stuff over many

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Speaker 1: tours in I Rock, many tours in Afghanistan, and they

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Speaker 1: understand decentralized cells, they understand commanded control nodes, ways of

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Speaker 1: you know, going for hearts and minds, forcing overreach from

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Speaker 1: all of these things. Now, this is non lethal, well

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Speaker 1: non lethal so far on the part of the opposition,

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Speaker 1: and has resulted in some lethal encounters that they were hoping,

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Speaker 1: in my opinion, to create. Unfortunately, they want there to

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Speaker 1: be use of force that becomes lethal in the opposition

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Speaker 1: to Trump or the people that are opposing what's going

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Speaker 1: on in Minneapolis, because that's what really is that really viscerally,

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Speaker 1: that really emotionally grabs people. So this is all all

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Speaker 1: in for the opposition, and I would just say, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean we need to adjust. Well, you're always adjusting tactics,

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Speaker 1: you know. I'm not opposed to adjusting tactics that that

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Speaker 1: makes it, But I am opposed to. We just need

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Speaker 1: to kind of walk away from this enforcement operation because

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Speaker 1: it's making people sad, or it's looking rough or whatever.

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Speaker 1: First of all, that's an abandonment of the rule of law.

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Speaker 1: Second of all, does anyone think that that's not going

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Speaker 1: to increase and encourage this in other cities? Do you

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Speaker 1: think this is the only place where they have a

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Speaker 1: Democrat governor and a Democrat mayor who working together with

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Speaker 1: clearly astro turfed and well funded direct action elements which

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Speaker 1: is what they call them in the kind of black

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Speaker 1: block street protest world. They can pull direct action elements

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Speaker 1: together in any major Democrat city to do this stuff, Clay,

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Speaker 1: and they will if this is successful. That's why we

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Speaker 1: have to really stay the course. Well, look, there's also

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Speaker 1: the reports out there that there's a massive signal Chat

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Speaker 1: signal is in you know, basically secured text message transmission site.

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Speaker 1: It's a sort of easy way to communicate that's not

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Speaker 1: as easy necessarily to hack as your iPhone may be

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Speaker 1: or other text messages. Maybe that is directing people exactly

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Speaker 1: where the ice raids are going on and saying we

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Speaker 1: need you to show up at this location, and it's

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Speaker 1: being run by some of the top Democrat politicians in Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: And I think what you were just pointing out is

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Speaker 1: something that is very, very important. Ten times as many

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Speaker 1: people have been arrested in Texas and Florida as have

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Speaker 1: been arrested in Minnesota, yet we have seen zero protests

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Speaker 1: because by and large, the local police have been cooperating

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Speaker 1: with ICE in those locations. Here, the local police have

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Speaker 1: in many ways been engaging in direct obstruction themselves. There

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Speaker 1: are reports that jade Vans put out that ICE agents

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Speaker 1: were surrounded, asked for local police help, and local police

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Speaker 1: refuse to respond to ICE request for help. And so

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Speaker 1: this is they have decided the front lines of opposition

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Speaker 1: to ICE, trying to win this battle in Minneapolis because

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Speaker 1: they believe if they win the battle in Minneapolis that

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Speaker 1: they can then spread the same form of resistance to

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Speaker 1: other locations. And unfortunately, two people are dead that would

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Speaker 1: still be alive if they hadn't decided to show up

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Speaker 1: and try to obstruct ICE activities. And again go back

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Speaker 1: and read what was said about this in July by

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Speaker 1: Democrat officials. They said, we need to get shot, we

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Speaker 1: need to be in their faces actually opposing them. This

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Speaker 1: wasn't a tragic accident. The larger picture was intentional to

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Speaker 1: try to create a violent interaction. That's the goal, and

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Speaker 1: so the actual specifics of this incident are unfortunate, but

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Speaker 1: the method and process by which the situation was created

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Speaker 1: was very, very intentional. It was not accidental. And I

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Speaker 1: would just say, to the extent that anybody's out there

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Speaker 1: listening right now, you can be a Second Amendment believer

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Speaker 1: and also believe, as Buck pointed out in the first hour,

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Speaker 1: that doesn't mean you should take your gun every single place.

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Speaker 1: In a protest is not the best place, in my opinion,

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Speaker 1: to be taking a gun when you're trying to get

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Speaker 1: in the face of ice officials. Because I really do

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Speaker 1: believe this guy would still be alive if he had

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Speaker 1: not had a gun on his person. He could have

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Speaker 1: still been protesting. But I think that gun, when you

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Speaker 1: see some of these details in the way, maybe it

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Speaker 1: discharged accidentally, maybe it put people in heightened states of fear.

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Speaker 1: Once that occurred, it created this unfortunate outcome, And I

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Speaker 1: think he'd be alive protesting still if he didn't have

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Speaker 1: the gun. Also, generally one of the reasons why somebody

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Speaker 1: would And I do conceal carry out as much as

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Speaker 1: I probably should. But the reason why you will do

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Speaker 1: that is to be able to defend yourself in others

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Speaker 1: if you need to. If you're going to a place

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Speaker 1: that's full of cops, what do you think you're defending

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Speaker 1: yourself against. And then if you're going to place it's

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Speaker 1: full of cops and you're going to antagonize them, Yes,

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Speaker 1: what do you think you're defending yourself against? So, I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's no question of what this guy did was stupid.

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Speaker 1: The question is what was the reaction. Was there a

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Speaker 1: justified reaction from law enforcement here or not? Was it

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Speaker 1: a tragic accident or not. Now, an accident can be

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Speaker 1: something that is reasonable on the part of the officers,

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Speaker 1: or rather their response could be reasonable even if a

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Speaker 1: mistake was made, And that may well be where this

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Speaker 1: is going. But I totally agree with that officer or

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Speaker 1: a former officer called them last hour. We got to

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Speaker 1: see all the tape, We got to see everything, because

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Speaker 1: you have to be completely fair to these officers. And

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Speaker 1: I was talking about reaction times. You know, you're talking

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Speaker 1: about a one second when someone gets their hand on

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Speaker 1: a gun for you to make a decision. Now you

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Speaker 1: hear a bullet go off, you think people might say, oh, well,

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Speaker 1: the bullet went off. As far as they know, there

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Speaker 1: could be another fourteen or fifteen rounds waiting to go

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Speaker 1: off because the guy just shot off one. Maybe now

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Speaker 1: he's gonna You're gonna wait and see if he gets

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Speaker 1: you gets the people. I'm just saying, if you put

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Speaker 1: yourself in the mindset of a cop who's wrestling with

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Speaker 1: somebody who has a gun, who's causing problems, and you

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Speaker 1: hear a gun go off, and you know you didn't

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Speaker 1: shoot it, and none of the other cops shot it,

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Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? That's that's where I think

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Speaker 1: this is really gonna turn. But again, Clay, the really

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Speaker 1: tragic thing here other than Sky lost his life. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: this is what they wanted. Yes, they wanted a murky sitchy.

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Speaker 1: They wanted to force how many times a day are

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Speaker 1: they harassing cops and doing all this stuff They wanted

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Speaker 1: to you know, they wanted a cop to skid out

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Speaker 1: in his car trying to go around one of these

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Speaker 1: it there to be an accident. They wanted someone to

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Speaker 1: get shot. They wanted this to happen. Yes. By the way,

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Speaker 1: Caroline Levitt has begun a White House press briefing. We

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Speaker 1: will monitor that talking about the winter storm and the

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Speaker 1: situation in Minneapolis. I'm sure that there will be a

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Speaker 1: you and statements just fi. We are monitoring that in

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Speaker 1: their decision. Winter storm affecting tens of millions out over

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Speaker 1: a bunch of messages from our listeners, including one, I

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in play Travis buck Sexton Show. Caroline Levitt

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Speaker 1: conducting a White House press briefing as we are speaking

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Speaker 1: to all of you, We've got a couple of cuts

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Speaker 1: from her that we are going to be playing on

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Speaker 1: this program shortly. But a lot of you wanting to

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Speaker 1: weigh in from across the country over the shooting and

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Speaker 1: the videos out there of the shooting. As we are

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Speaker 1: reacting to the situation in Minneapolis. Let's see, I actually

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Speaker 1: want to go to a couple of different opinions. Go figure.

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Speaker 1: Let's start with Mick in South Carolina. Mick, you say

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Speaker 1: you you are a use of force expert, former trooper.

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Speaker 1: What was your take based on the evidence that you

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Speaker 1: have seen?

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Speaker 2: Well, first, what I would say, and you're an atturney.

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Speaker 2: You know the video doesn't tell the whole scenario. You

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Speaker 2: have to look at all the evidence, the officer's statements,

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Speaker 2: the policies and procedures of the of the agents, as

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Speaker 2: well as you apply the federal law, and then you

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Speaker 2: render an opinion based on those facts. People jump to

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Speaker 2: conclusions and it's an emotional situation. But when you look

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Speaker 2: at it, just the video, Yes, man had a firearm,

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Speaker 2: Apparently he was disarmed, and apparently it appeared that the

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Speaker 2: agents discharged after he was disarmed, not meaning he didn't

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Speaker 2: have another firearm. But what you have to look at

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Speaker 2: when you use deadly forced you have to say, what

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Speaker 2: was the threat at the time you instituted deadly force

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Speaker 2: and you made that the decision based on what that

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Speaker 2: individual did for you to be in fear for your

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Speaker 2: life to utilize deadly force, and was it objectively reasonable

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Speaker 2: or it was not? And why you look at the

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Speaker 2: time the force was used based on what that individual

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Speaker 2: did at the time the officers discharged, And that's what

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Speaker 2: needs to be looked at and analyzed and not just

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Speaker 2: jump the conclusions based on the video, because again it

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Speaker 2: does not tell the entire story.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Let's go to Rob in Roseville, Michigan firearms instructor. Rob,

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Speaker 1: you say, for fifty plus years, what do you think

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Speaker 1: based on the evidence that you have seen.

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Speaker 3: So far? And I'm I just got home, so I'm

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Speaker 3: going through this at very slow speed. There is a

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Speaker 3: question whether or not he was disarmed as I'm looking

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Speaker 3: at it right now, but it appears that he was

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Speaker 3: disarmed before he was shot, which makes it really a

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Speaker 3: very questionable shooting.

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Speaker 1: Now, sorry to cut you off, but you would have

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Speaker 1: to go into whether, sorry, Rob, whether the man who

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Speaker 1: fired knew that he was disarmed, because that's what we're

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Speaker 1: talking about, because if this firearm discharged and they say gun,

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Speaker 1: he may or may not in that moment have been

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Speaker 1: aware that this individual was disarmed. Just kind of characterizing

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Speaker 1: more of the details.

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Speaker 3: But continue of all the officers I've ever trained to

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Speaker 3: shoot when you do something in a situation like that,

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Speaker 3: because I disarmed people before, and I'm not an officer,

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Speaker 3: but I've trained a lot of officers, but I've been

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Speaker 3: in a lot off have been in my share of

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Speaker 3: shooting situations. When I disarmed somebody, I make sure everybody

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Speaker 3: around me knows that I disarmed him. Yeah, okay, I

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Speaker 3: cannot envision this officer disarming him and not saying so.

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Speaker 3: I still want to go through these videos at a

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Speaker 3: quarter speed and see just exactly this officer that turned around,

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Speaker 3: that has the gun, that has a gun in his hand.

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Speaker 3: Is that his gun or is that this man's gun.

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Speaker 3: The other problem I have is that this man is

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Speaker 3: on the ground with his hands under his head, even

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Speaker 3: if he's got his gun on his side, which he

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Speaker 3: has every right to have. Period. That's the thing that

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Speaker 3: officers don't understand. Just because you have a firearm does

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Speaker 3: not make you a danger. Okay, why was he shot

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Speaker 3: if his hands weren't anywhere near his firearm? I mean

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Speaker 3: from the Daniel Shaver incident where they forced this man

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Speaker 3: to get up and walk backwards on his knees while

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Speaker 3: his legs were crossed doing these circus tricks, when all

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Speaker 3: they had to do after they got him laid down

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Speaker 3: at the end of the.

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Speaker 1: Hall, I just to jump in. I actually I wrote

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Speaker 1: a years ago a piece that went viral on the

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Speaker 1: Daniel To me, the Daniel Shaver incident, I know it

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Speaker 1: very well. I went through all that video was was

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Speaker 1: clearly a murder and it's one of charge officer shootings

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Speaker 1: of all time. It was charged as a murder, but

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Speaker 1: the jury did not find him guilty of murder, which

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Speaker 1: was absolutely appalling. But yeah, that video and the way

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Speaker 1: that went down was really haunting and horrible. Thank you

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Speaker 1: for calling in. Look, I I I think that we're

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Speaker 1: all pretty clear here that this is a this is

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Speaker 1: a to be determined. Facts still coming in situation on

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Speaker 1: what went down here. We've been talking about the lead

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Speaker 1: up to it, the environment, the totally unnecessary reality of

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Speaker 1: people doing this kind of stuff to ice. That's all clear,

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Speaker 1: that's beyond dispute. What happened in this specific incident. We

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Speaker 1: have to see all the body camera footage, see exactly

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Speaker 1: what happened, and get into some of this VIP email

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Speaker 1: from Edward. He says, guys, Navy chief five deployment, dirt sailor?

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Speaker 1: What's a dirt sailor? I don't know what that is?

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Speaker 1: Do you know what that is? I don't know what

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Speaker 1: that is? Now, I got to mind. My navy in

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Speaker 1: laws are gonna be like, what's wrong with you? How

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Speaker 1: can you not know what a dirt sailor is? Anyway,

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Speaker 1: Clay said an officer, possibly panic. No, the officer reacted. Secondly,

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Speaker 1: there's no such thing as an accidental discharge. Proper terminology

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Speaker 1: is negligent discharge. Chairs. Well, mister Edward, you are kind

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Speaker 1: of correct and kind of not correct. Actually, what I

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Speaker 1: was referring to like, for example, what I was on

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Speaker 1: a rage and someone let one fly. That was a

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Speaker 1: negligent discharge. Yes, if you pull the trigger you're not

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Speaker 1: supposed to, that's a negligent discharge, an accidental discharge. And

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Speaker 1: you can even check the NRA terminology on this. They

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Speaker 1: keep it a glossary of like you know, gun terminology,

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Speaker 1: just to kind of have a one place, one stop shop.

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Speaker 1: And accidental discharge would be something that, for example, is

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Speaker 1: a mechanical failure of the gun, not user error. Now

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Speaker 1: it's very rare, it does happen. It is possible though, right,

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Speaker 1: it is possible that there is a U and so

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Speaker 1: the it's a SIG three twenty. It's gonna people have

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Speaker 1: written about this. Now it's a SIG three twenty that

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Speaker 1: the guy had, not the three sixty five X, which

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Speaker 1: I actually used to own one, which is a great gun.

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Speaker 1: I love it. I love a lot of SIG guns.

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Speaker 1: The SIG three to twenty. People get all uptight about

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Speaker 1: whether or not it is this is real or not

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Speaker 1: does it have ADS? But an accidental discharge, per the

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Speaker 1: NRA terminology, is a mechanical malfunction of the firearm itself.

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Speaker 1: Not due to user air. Is it a very very

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Speaker 1: rare phenomenon. Yes, but it does exist as a term.

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Speaker 1: But negligent discharge is far more common. This is a

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Speaker 1: little bit clear. Like hang fire versus misfire, right, hang

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Speaker 1: fire misfire is bad. That's when you pull the trigger

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Speaker 1: and nothing happens, but at least nothing happens. Hang fire

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Speaker 1: is very dangerous on a range. It's when you pull

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Speaker 1: and nothing happens and then it fires, right, which can

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Speaker 1: also happen. And that's something where people sometimes will pull

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Speaker 1: and then they forget that they got a gun on

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Speaker 1: their hands, and you know, bad things happen. So, yeah,

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Speaker 1: the terms, we got a lot of terms here, VIP

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Speaker 1: email from what do you want? What do you wanna do?

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Speaker 5: Uh?

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Speaker 1: Michelle? Those officers don't have the luxury of hindsight or

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Speaker 1: slow motion replay. That can't wait to make a decision.

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Speaker 1: Why is no one considering that? Well, Clay, I think

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Speaker 1: we could tell Michelle we very much are considering that. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I don't think we're Monday morning quarterbacking at all here.

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Speaker 1: I think we're saying we got to get all the

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Speaker 1: facts in and we you know, we have to be

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Speaker 1: just fair and accurate about the situation. The Renee Good

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Speaker 1: thing was not that was not complicated in terms of

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Speaker 1: the officers acted lawfully based on the fact that she

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Speaker 1: hit one with her car. You can't do that. You

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Speaker 1: can't run a car. You can't run an officer over

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Speaker 1: or attempt to run an officer over and expect that

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Speaker 1: nothing's gonna happen. This situation is is uh, certainly less

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Speaker 1: clear and this could end up being a bad shoot

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Speaker 1: or I don't know if we call it. Guy said clean,

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Speaker 1: shoot clean versus I've always heard bad and good from

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Speaker 1: a legal perspective, and not that you want to shoot someone,

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Speaker 1: but legally, a good shoot is something that is legal.

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Speaker 1: A bad shoot that is something that's not legal, I

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Speaker 1: mean lawful, probably the most accurate way to describe it. So, yeah,

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Speaker 1: the way that I would analyze this is what Caroline

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Speaker 1: Levitt just said. Question, does the president believe the killing

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Speaker 1: was a mistake. Immediately after the Renee Good shooting, everybody

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Speaker 1: lined up and said and then the video comes out

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Speaker 1: and most people out there, I think, believe it's a tragedy,

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Speaker 1: but that the shooting was justified based on the behavior

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Speaker 1: of Renee Good. The President said it. Here's cut thirty two.

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Speaker 1: Caroline Levitt was just asked, does the president believe the

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Speaker 1: killing was a mistake? Cut thirty two. Does the President

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Speaker 1: believe that the killing mode was a mistake? Has he

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Speaker 1: expressed that at all?

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Speaker 6: Again, the President has said, you know, we have to

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Speaker 6: review it, and there this investigation needs to continue, and

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Speaker 6: he's letting the facts on the investigation lead itself.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I think that's the right response from the president.

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Speaker 1: Let the investigation take place. Here's Caroline Levitt buck as well,

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Speaker 1: reminding Americans. The reason why this entire situation exists, and

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Speaker 1: I do think this is a paramount importance, is because

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Speaker 1: Biden let so many illegals in during his term in office.

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Speaker 1: Cut thirty one.

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Speaker 6: Former President Joe Biden and the Democrats opened America's borders

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Speaker 6: for four years, inviting tens of millions of illegal aliens

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Speaker 6: from all over the world to flood into our country,

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Speaker 6: among them violent criminals who terrorized American communities and have

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Speaker 6: inflicted devastating, permanent pain and harm on law abiding Americans

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Speaker 6: and their families.

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Speaker 1: Yet we never then we lost it. I think we

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Speaker 1: lost that cut as we were playing it. And we'll

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Speaker 1: come back we're monitoring in real time. I'm sending a

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Speaker 1: bunch of clips as we are doing the show to

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Speaker 1: our team to make sure that we've got all of

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Speaker 1: the real time reactions variety of different stories that are

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Speaker 1: out there. Let's get this in. Jerry's been waiting for

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Speaker 1: a minute, Jerry Saint Paul, Minnesota. What do you think

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Speaker 1: of what's going on? Basically in the Twin Cities there.

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Speaker 3: It's a different world.

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Speaker 7: It's it's cold. But give your guy who manages your

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Speaker 7: calls or raise because it's been he's got a difficult job.

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Speaker 1: So Greg does a good job fielding as many calls

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Speaker 1: as he can, a lot of passionate people calling in.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes people aren't even very nice to Greg and they're

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Speaker 1: just angry either bucker me. So remember Greg didn't say

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Speaker 1: it's bucker me. Who part of Greg's job is it's

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Speaker 1: always Greg's fault when people that it's not my father,

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Speaker 1: Clay's fault.

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Speaker 7: Well, I'm an extreme minority in the Twin Cities and

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Speaker 7: that both my wife my are staunch Republicans and shunt

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Speaker 7: Trump fans and all that. But I've got I've got

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Speaker 7: a warning to myself into all of the GOP I've

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Speaker 7: had dinners the last two Saturday nights with longtime friends

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Speaker 7: who we'd probably call them old time typical Democrats. They

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Speaker 7: are so angry you cannot argue. I use Caroline Levett's

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Speaker 7: conversation point, Well, let's go back to where this problem

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Speaker 7: started from. It goes nowhere. You know, we the GOP

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Speaker 7: can be right on so many issues and the other

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Speaker 7: side can be so vile. But it's like driving your

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Speaker 7: car through an intersection. You could be right, but if

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Speaker 7: you get plowed into by somebody, you could be right,

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Speaker 7: but you could be dead right. And we, I'm very afraid,

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Speaker 7: are in danger the GOP of snatching defeat from the

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Speaker 7: jaws of victory. We should be winning this next f

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Speaker 7: and man, we have to have a monster, monster turnout

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Speaker 7: because the other side is fired up and it's not

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Speaker 7: good news for us.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for the call. I do think politically, they

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Speaker 1: have been trying to turn Americans against Ice and against

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Speaker 1: President Trump's deportation policies. Their big loser buck, as you

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Speaker 1: well know, is on the border, and so this is

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Speaker 1: why their goal has been to find someone who is

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Speaker 1: a victim that they believe is innocent and turn it

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Speaker 1: into the story as opposed to what's going on. I

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Speaker 1: would also point this out, Minneapolis did not get super

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Speaker 1: aggressive against Ice until all the fraud story came out

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Speaker 1: and Tim Walls announced he wasn't gonna run. I do

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Speaker 1: think there is an element of trying to turn the

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Speaker 1: story away from the massive fraud, the Somali all those

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Speaker 1: issues into Ice is the bad guy. That seems quite

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Speaker 1: intentional to me. Oh, it's one hundred percent a tip

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Speaker 1: of the Iceberg situation. There's so much more under there,

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Speaker 1: and they want to move away from it very quickly.

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Speaker 1: You know. One of the problems with financial frauds in general, Clay,

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Speaker 1: they're time intensive, and so you need people who have

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Speaker 1: the access and have the mandate to go in and

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Speaker 1: to look at all the numbers and to pull the

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Speaker 1: bank statements and everything else. If the people in charge

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Speaker 1: don't want that to happen, guess what doesn't happen. So

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Speaker 1: and if there's no political pressure, if there's no outrage,

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden getting away with billions and billions

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Speaker 1: of dollars of fraud doesn't seem all that complicated, all right.

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Speaker 1: The tone of the Towers Foundation honors America's heroes and

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Speaker 1: their families when tragedy strikes heroes like Scott abrams. For

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Speaker 1: more than three decades, Scott service community and country as

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Speaker 1: a United States Marine, a New York City Police detective,

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Speaker 1: and a volunteer firefighter. While he was on his NYPD

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Speaker 1: motorcycle escorting the funeral procession of a four year old child,

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Speaker 1: his life changed in an instant. Scott was hit by

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Speaker 1: a bus, crushing four vertebrae in his neck and leaving

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Speaker 1: him partially paralyzed. Scott's recovery was grueling, but through unwavering love,

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Speaker 1: strength and perseverance, Scott, his wife Tara, and their son

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Speaker 1: Joshua made it through unimaginable challenges. Tunalta Towers honored Scott

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Speaker 5: Two guys walk up to a mic Hey, anything goes

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Speaker 1: Third hour of Clay and Buck kicks off. Now we

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Speaker 1: have updates happening moments ago from the White House about

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Speaker 1: the situation in Minneapolis and the other Trump administration on

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Speaker 1: a whole range of issues. We will get into that,

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Speaker 1: my friends, and you know what actually play. Let's just

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Speaker 1: dive into some of this because the more we look

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Speaker 1: at this, the more clear it is that this is

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Speaker 1: the issue. This is the single most important fight right

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Speaker 1: now in the country. And we mentioned that Tom Holman,

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Speaker 1: who is the number two essentially on immigration enforcement issues.

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Speaker 1: He's kind of he's the czar I think, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I forget what his official government title is, but he's

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Speaker 1: the implementations are for deportations. Christy Nome sits atop the

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Speaker 1: Department of Homeland Security, which is a massive umbrella agency,

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Speaker 1: as you all know, with a lot of sub agencies.

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Speaker 1: I can't even name all the sub agencies underneath it.

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Speaker 1: At this point. There's been some things moved around, but

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Speaker 1: a reporter asked the Press Secretary Caroline Levitt about Home

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Speaker 1: and Tom Holman being sent to Minneapolis and what the

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Speaker 1: situation is. Want to give you the latest. This was

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Speaker 1: just moments ago thirty seven play it.

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Speaker 4: Regards to deployment of Tom Holman to Minneapolis.

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Speaker 1: Should the deployment of mister.

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Speaker 4: Homan to Minneapolis be seen as a sign that the

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Speaker 4: President is dissatisfied with how the officials on the ground.

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Speaker 1: Had handled the ancident.

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Speaker 6: No, mister Holman is doing an exceptional job, and he

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Speaker 6: has been working with Secretary Nome and President Trump over

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Speaker 6: the course of the last year. A Secretary Nome still

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Speaker 6: has the utmost confidence and trust of the President of

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Speaker 6: the United States, and she's continuing to oversee the entire

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Speaker 6: Department of Homeland Security and all of the immigration enforcement

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Speaker 6: that's taking place across the whole entire country. Of course,

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Speaker 6: Secretary Nome is also in charge of FEMA, and we

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Speaker 6: are in the wake of a brutal winter storm where

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Speaker 6: hundreds of thousands of Americans have been impacted by that

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Speaker 6: the borders are home in is in a unique position

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Speaker 6: to drop everything and go to Minnesota to continue having

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Speaker 6: these productive conversations with state and local officials.

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Speaker 5: And I know that.

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Speaker 6: He's catching a plane in just a few hours to

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Speaker 6: do just that at the request of the President.

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Speaker 1: Clay Tom Homand is a border guy's border guy. He

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Speaker 1: understands this issue backwards and forwards. I've known Tom for

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Speaker 1: many years, talk to him in green rooms at Fox

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Speaker 1: and here on this show and my previous show, and

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Speaker 1: he's an encyclopedia of knowledge and has tremendous experience on

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Speaker 1: immigration enforcement issues. He's also completely aligned with the President

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Speaker 1: of the United States on this. I think they want

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Speaker 1: to make this more of a sort of a competition

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Speaker 1: or a feud between these two. What I see more

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Speaker 1: here is Okay, things are heating up. Let's get more

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Speaker 1: hands on deck. And I don't think you could have

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Speaker 1: better hands on deck to help out then bringing borders

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Speaker 1: are Tom Holman into the fray. Tom Holman got the

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Speaker 1: Presidential Medal of Honor from Barack Obama. I know people

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Speaker 1: forget that because now they're trying to turn him into

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Speaker 1: an evil, awful villain. But he's been incredible on the

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Speaker 1: border for a very long time. I mean, the guy,

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Speaker 1: if he wasn't so fired up to have the back

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Speaker 1: of all the border employees, if he wasn't doing the

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Speaker 1: guy probably works Buck sixteen hours a day and has

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Speaker 1: every day since Trump got back into office. So we

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Speaker 1: love Tom Homan. We've had him on the program a lot.

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Speaker 1: I just saw him a couple of weeks ago in

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Speaker 1: the White House and he said to tell everybody high

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Speaker 1: and so we appreciate all the work that he has done. Now,

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Speaker 1: let's play a couple more of these cuts. The White

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Speaker 1: House Press briefing is over. I do think it's significant,

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Speaker 1: and I tweeted this, but this is where my quad

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Speaker 1: box comes in hand. And to their credit, CNN pretty

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Speaker 1: much takes every White House Press briefing President Caroline Levitt,

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Speaker 1: jd Vance, whoever it is, obviously, Fox News does, MSNBC

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Speaker 1: almost never does. I know it's MS now now, And

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Speaker 1: I think it's clearly because they don't want their audience

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Speaker 1: to be able to hear any counter veiling narrative than

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Speaker 1: what is being presented on their air. And so here

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Speaker 1: are a couple of other different cuts. Caroline Levitt talking

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Speaker 1: about President Trump's call with Minnesota Governor Tim Walls. Here

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Speaker 1: it is cut thirty four.

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Speaker 6: President Trump spoke with Governor Walls directly this morning, and

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Speaker 6: he has outlined a clear and simple path to restoring

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Speaker 6: law and order in Minnesota. Number One, Governor Waltzmerfry and

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Speaker 6: all Democrat leaders should turn over all criminal illegal aliens

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Speaker 6: currently incarcerated in their prisons in jails to federal authorities.

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Speaker 6: Number two, State and local law enforcement must agree to

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Speaker 6: turn over all illegal aliens who are arrested by local police.

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Speaker 6: And then, thirdly, local police must assist federal law enforcement

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Speaker 6: in apprehending, in detaining illegal aliens who are wanted for crimes,

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Speaker 6: especially violent crimes. If Governor Wilson Mayorfry implement these common

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Speaker 6: sense cooperative measures that I will add have already been

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Speaker 6: implemented in nearly every single other state across the country,

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Speaker 6: customs and border patrol will not be needed to support

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Speaker 6: ICE on the ground in Minnesota. ICE in local law

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Speaker 6: enforcement can peacefully work together, as they are effectively doing

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Speaker 6: in so many other states and jurisdictions.

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Speaker 1: Okay, and one more Buck, that was discussing that phone

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Speaker 1: call which we began the show talking about that President

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Speaker 1: Trump and now Tim Walls have both commented on, and

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Speaker 1: Caroline Levitt pointed out something significant. Buck. I got fired

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Speaker 1: up over the weekend because the NBA decided that they

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Speaker 1: couldn't play their game in Minneapolis because it wasn't safe. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: the Minnesota Wild are able to play nine and a

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Speaker 1: half miles away in another arena. University of Minnesota is

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Speaker 1: able to play a game i think against Nebraska in

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Speaker 1: basically the same area. And so it was a lot

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Speaker 1: of posturing, a lot of left wing politicking. But I

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Speaker 1: wanted to play this because everyone who has all worked

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Speaker 1: up about what happened with the shooting on Saturday, almost

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Speaker 1: none of the people that are fired up, and they

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Speaker 1: had a moment of silence at the Minnesota Timberwolves game

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Speaker 1: for this guy. Caroline Levitt points out, none of those

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Speaker 1: people have said a word about all of the innocent

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Speaker 1: people who have been killed by illegal immigrants. Listen to

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Speaker 1: cut thirty six. This is really what all of this

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Speaker 1: is about.

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Speaker 6: Former President Joe Biden and the Democrats opened America's borders

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Speaker 6: for four years, inviting tens of millions of illegal aliens

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Speaker 6: from all over the world to flood into our country,

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Speaker 6: among them violent criminals who terrorized American communities and have

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Speaker 6: inflicted devastating permanent pain and harm on law abiding Americans

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Speaker 6: and their families. Yet we never saw outrage from Democrats

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Speaker 6: or their allies in the liberal media over these horrifying

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Speaker 6: crimes against US citizens. The pain of American angel families

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Speaker 6: was ignored and dismissed because it undermined the Democrat narrative.

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Speaker 6: Innocent Americans like Jocelyn Nungray Lake and Riley and Rachel

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Speaker 6: Morin are just a few of the many victims savagely

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Speaker 6: murdered by illegal alien criminals earlier this month, and a

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Speaker 6: llegal alien from Mexico with a long criminal history who

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Speaker 6: came into our country under Joe Biden's administration threw a

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Speaker 6: baseball sized stone at a school bus carrying children in

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Speaker 6: New Jersey and fractured the skull of an eight year

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Speaker 6: old innocent child. President Trump promised accountability to these American

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Speaker 6: families by securing the border, deporting every illegal alien who

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Speaker 6: has committed crimes, especially and most importantly violent crime.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Buck, I think this is so important, and the

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Speaker 1: one thing I would suggest maybe the White House could

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Speaker 1: message on this is I don't think it's coincidental, and

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Speaker 1: I bet most of you out there listening do not

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Speaker 1: consider it coincidental either, that last week it was announced

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Speaker 1: that we hit a one hundred and twenty five year

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Speaker 1: low in murders in this country. Not since nineteen hundred

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Speaker 1: have we seen a murder rate this low. Do you

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Speaker 1: think maybe having a secure border and kicking tons of

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Speaker 1: violent predators out of the country has done maybe a

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Speaker 1: little bit to help make us all safer and drive

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Speaker 1: down the murder rate overall? I think connecting these two

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Speaker 1: is actually an important part of the message that the

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Speaker 1: White House should be putting out there. You know, it's

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Speaker 1: also a virtuous cycle you have, and this was true

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Speaker 1: at the border, and it's true when you look at

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Speaker 1: crime and major American cities. When you take more illegal

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Speaker 1: alien criminals off the streets, you have a greater ability

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Speaker 1: to focus your law enforcement resources on priority areas, priority

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Speaker 1: threats as in. You know, if you have in a

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Speaker 1: good sized American city, you may have five thousand people

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Speaker 1: in the whole city, and I'm talking about a city

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Speaker 1: of a million people. You may have five thousand people

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Speaker 1: who are the ones that really do basically all the

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Speaker 1: serious crime, and maybe the numbers less than that. But

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Speaker 1: if you take five hundred of them off the streets,

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Speaker 1: a thousand them off the streets, it's just like anything else,

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Speaker 1: your resource allocation improves your ability to deal with it

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Speaker 1: is stronger, and also you're suffering less negative effects because

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Speaker 1: you have a smaller criminal population. So doing all of

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Speaker 1: these things, like I said, virtuous cycle results in more

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Speaker 1: and more benefit as you go along, and so they

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Speaker 1: have to continue to I think, make this case very

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Speaker 1: very publicly, and Karen Love it's doing an excellent job

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Speaker 1: of it. That there are that this has been building

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Speaker 1: for a long time, that the Bide administration sold out

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Speaker 1: our country, that our border was wide open, that criminal

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Speaker 1: illegals came in large numbers. I mean, we could have

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Speaker 1: a whole different conversation at some point, Clay, if we

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Speaker 1: had gotten rid of every single wanted fell in illegal

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Speaker 1: alien with a deportation order, if every single one of

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Speaker 1: them was out of the country deported after serving their sentence. Okay,

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Speaker 1: well then we'll talk about, you know, the optics of

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Speaker 1: continued enforcement and where we should be. But this is

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Speaker 1: like the most obvious stuff we're talking about here, and

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Speaker 1: yet they still want to stop it. They want to

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Speaker 1: shut it down, which just tells you they truly are

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Speaker 1: open borders. They just won't admit that that's what they want.

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Speaker 1: It's just like they want the erratication of gender entirely.

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Speaker 1: They just won't admit that, so they play all these

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Speaker 1: games about gender identity and everything else.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, and we're going to we have

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Speaker 1: loaded lines. Everybody is fired up, wants to talk about

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Speaker 1: this in earnest. I just want to keep coming back

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Speaker 1: to this is a clear attempt in Minneapolis to distract

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Speaker 1: from Somali fraud. In Texas and Florida, they have arrested

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Speaker 1: ten times as many people for violating the law and

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Speaker 1: deported them. And to my knowledge, Buck, have you seen

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Speaker 1: one viral video from Florida or Texas of anybody refusing

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Speaker 1: to cooperate with ICE. I haven't. Most of the states

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Speaker 1: and most of the cities in this country right now

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Speaker 1: are doing their best to cooperate with ICE and get

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Speaker 1: these people out of here. Minneapolis is not, And I

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Speaker 1: think you have to ask yourself why are they creating

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Speaker 1: these conditions. It is as we'd all told you, We

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Speaker 1: told you this is going to happen. We've been saying,

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Speaker 1: what I say, this story happen on Saturday. I just said,

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Speaker 1: you know what, this doesn't surprise me. And unfortunately, you

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Speaker 1: know what else is going to happen. One of these

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Speaker 1: crazy left winger is going to kill an ICE agent,

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Speaker 1: maybe more than one ICE agent. You mentioned the Dallas,

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Speaker 1: Texas example when it came to BLM where the guy

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Speaker 1: decided that police were the problem. What did he kill

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Speaker 1: five or six Dallas Texas police offices? Five? I think

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Speaker 1: it was. Unfortunately, I think we are rapidly, rapidly speeding

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Speaker 1: towards what feels to me an inevitability where innocent ICE

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Speaker 1: agents are going to be killed because of this temperature

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Speaker 1: rise when they're trying to do their an You and

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Speaker 1: I know, and everyone with us right now knows that

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Speaker 1: if that God forbid, But if that were to happen,

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Speaker 1: if there was even one ICE officer who was murdered

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Speaker 1: in some kind of an ambush by these by these

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Speaker 1: lunatic street animals that are running around, stop trying to

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Speaker 1: stop this stuff. Blue Sky the Democrat Online be one

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Speaker 1: you all know it, and you know how they would

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