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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate all of you hanging out with us Wednesday

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Speaker 1: edition of the program as we continue to fight for truth, justice,

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Speaker 1: and the American way all over this country and around

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Speaker 1: the world. We appreciate all of you listening and encourage

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Speaker 1: you as always go subscribe to the podcast, make sure

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Speaker 1: you don't miss a moment. We are in an intriguing

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Speaker 1: time right now. Obviously, we've got the Herschel Walker race

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Speaker 1: still on Monday against Tuesday against the reven Rafael Warnuck.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be down speaking for Herschel on Monday, so

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Speaker 1: I'll be down in the Cobb County area for that

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Speaker 1: final sprint. But basically, the two twenty twenty two midterms

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Speaker 1: four has begun. But until we get there, it feels

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Speaker 1: as if Elon Musk and sort of the wokeification of

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Speaker 1: the media and big business is under siege in a

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Speaker 1: way that we have not seen in a long time.

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Speaker 1: Disney Buck came out with a brand new movie that

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Speaker 1: bombed in a way that a Disney animated film has

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Speaker 1: not bombed in a really, really long time. As we

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Speaker 1: are speaking, CNN is in the process of firing tons

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Speaker 1: of employees. They are going to continue those firings into tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: There are starting to be woke consequences. Disney has instituted

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Speaker 1: a hiring freeze. They also have told people, hey, stop

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Speaker 1: taking trips for purposes of business meetings. They are trying

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Speaker 1: to cut costs in a big way. This idea. I

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Speaker 1: saw AMC come out and say, and you may watch

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Speaker 1: AMC for Breaking Bad or Walking Dead or mad Men

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Speaker 1: back in the day. They've had a lot of very

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Speaker 1: successful shows. AMC is cutting twenty percent of its overall employees.

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Speaker 1: And they said something interesting in their earnings release yesterday.

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Speaker 1: They said, Hey, we expected for streaming, that is the

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Speaker 1: new streaming services, to in some way create opportunities to

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Speaker 1: make up for the money that we're losing on the

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Speaker 1: cable and satellite bundle. As so many of you, I

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Speaker 1: would imagine, have cut your cable and satellite packages, including

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Speaker 1: you Buck. You were saying you've got YouTube television now

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Speaker 1: like you don't have a satellite or cable subscription. And

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of people out there making similar choices

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Speaker 1: to go straight streaming and basically give up on a

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Speaker 1: traditional cable package. I have one hundred percent cut the

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Speaker 1: cord and I'm never going I'm never going back. It's

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Speaker 1: just something that once, once you make that that change,

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Speaker 1: maybe one day I'll go back to my roots Clay

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Speaker 1: and not even have a TV, but carry would have

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Speaker 1: to sign off on that. So there are people everywhere

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Speaker 1: making the same choice that you are, and it's accelerating

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Speaker 1: in a big way, and it's putting biss pressures on

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Speaker 1: media companies at a very high level. Segue to the

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Speaker 1: conflict that has been occurring in the state of Florida

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Speaker 1: between Disney Rhonda Santis, and that has spiraled into the

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Speaker 1: larger culture wars of this country. Bob Chapick, the former

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Speaker 1: CEO of Disney, was fired effectively and replaced by his

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Speaker 1: former boss, Bob Eiger. Now that controversy over the parents

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Speaker 1: on a major level because most parents said, wait a minute, kindergarten, first, second,

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Speaker 1: them anything? At all about sexuality. Let's teach them the

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Speaker 1: did five years ago until we went crazy. Well, yesterday

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Speaker 1: and our friend Chris Rufo shared these video clips and

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Speaker 1: many of you out there frankly are choosing not to

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Speaker 1: support their woke moviedom where they suddenly decide that every

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Speaker 1: out of left field, crazy little plot editions that don't

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Speaker 1: just simply brand them political. Well, they're deeply political. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: we need more pan sexual cartoon characters for your kids

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Speaker 1: to see. I had to google, and Clay and I

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Speaker 1: And here we are with Disney's new chief telling us

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Speaker 1: maybe there is some CRT being taught, but it's not

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Speaker 1: we've seen, Clay. The companies, just like sports, just like newsrooms,

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Speaker 1: These are the stakes right now. And where does Disney

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Speaker 1: That's what I think they're doing. Yeah, I think you're right, Buck,

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Speaker 1: Strange World is about an explorer family and in the movie,

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Speaker 1: the same thing buck happened. What was the romantic comedy

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Speaker 1: And that's not homophobic. It's because most people want to

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Speaker 1: and if you won't do that, we're going to punish you.

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Speaker 1: You have to admit you're wrong if you think you

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Speaker 1: have any right to self defense. Look, I think I'm

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Speaker 1: with you if you're you are an attorney, right, if

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Speaker 1: you were her attorney, I would take the deal you're saying,

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Speaker 1: take the plea because risk I don't know what's gonna

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Speaker 1: happen here. You just sit there and you say, look,

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Speaker 1: you're a fifty would you say fifty two year old mom,

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Speaker 1: fifty four year old mom? Seven years you're facing let's

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Speaker 1: say you get the wrong jury. I respect her standards

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Speaker 1: and I respect her principles, and I certainly think that

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Speaker 1: she is in the right. I would just be nervous

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Speaker 1: about what the risk is here versus what you agree.

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Speaker 1: And there's another important Yeah. Look, I think I think

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Speaker 1: what she's doing is heroic in a sense because she's

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Speaker 1: standing on the principle of I did nothing wrong right,

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Speaker 1: And I will not allow the City of New York

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Speaker 1: because it is a bunch of Democrat woke cowards who

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Speaker 1: run it to punish me in any way to say

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Speaker 1: that I agreed that I you know, you know, this

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Speaker 1: is like this powerful stuff. Many you remember in Braveheart

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Speaker 1: when the bad stuff's happened to William Wallace and they're

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Speaker 1: just like confess and all ends and he yells freedom

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Speaker 1: and like I basically tear up just thinking about it.

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Speaker 1: To this day, she refuses to confess to something she

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Speaker 1: didn't do. Noteworthy as well. Another factoid here that missus

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Speaker 1: Casillo was issued initially a desk appearance ticket for the incident.

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Speaker 1: So initially it was like, look, you know, these idiots

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Speaker 1: were in the road, they were threatening you. You drove away,

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Speaker 1: nobody died, and you were just trying to escape to safety.

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Speaker 1: You had fear. Incredible year, they gave her a desk

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Speaker 1: appearance ticket, but then they decided to escalate it because

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Speaker 1: BLM is so important to society. Can we get her

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Speaker 1: on the show? I don't know. I mean maybe I

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Speaker 1: don't know if she'll do it right before she faces

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Speaker 1: the journey, if she's well. But my point on this is,

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Speaker 1: I think if she came on this show and she

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Speaker 1: told her story, remember how we spent some time talking

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Speaker 1: about the BEDEGA owner who got charged with murder that

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Speaker 1: they took in and then everybody said, as soon as

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Speaker 1: his story went public and they released the video, they said,

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Speaker 1: what are you talking about here? And then they released

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Speaker 1: the guy and then they dropped all charges. I think

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Speaker 1: if she came on our show, just tossing it out there,

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Speaker 1: I think if she came on our radio show and

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Speaker 1: described exactly what happened on that day and her the

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Speaker 1: same story that she would tell sitting in front of

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Speaker 1: a jury, I think that New York would drop the

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Speaker 1: charges against her. If they're all ready to the point

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Speaker 1: buck where they're saying, hey, six hours of community service,

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Speaker 1: give up your license for a year, which is I

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Speaker 1: understand a lot of you out there, that's a that's

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Speaker 1: a big punishment, the one year license thing, the sixth

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Speaker 1: hour of community service whatever. But I think if she

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Speaker 1: came on and she told her story with us, I

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Speaker 1: think they would drop charges. That's that's a bold statement.

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Speaker 1: And I think the political pressure I don't mean because

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Speaker 1: we're like I think so many people would hear her

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Speaker 1: story that the political pressure, similar to what happened with

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Speaker 1: the bodega employee who charges dropped. Yeah, it would certainly

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Speaker 1: help but I just think it's important for people to

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Speaker 1: see that there is a pattern here that in major

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Speaker 1: cities with left wing woke das, which they basically all have.

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Speaker 1: There are some exceptions, but you look at big cities

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Speaker 1: in America right now, the DA's are all woke. They're

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Speaker 1: all what the wokeness is just weaponized political correctness. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I actually think we just started using the term political

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Speaker 1: correctness more just because we remember how we thought it

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Speaker 1: was also absurd and stupid and wrong in the nineties,

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Speaker 1: and now we say anyway, but it's just weaponized political correctness.

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Speaker 1: It's a more extreme version of it. It's like the

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Speaker 1: taliban of political correctness. That's what wokeness is. And if

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Speaker 1: you defend yourself, Clay, you cannot a reasonable a reasonable

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Speaker 1: man standard for self defense in a lot of these

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Speaker 1: cities will get you a murder charge or a reckless

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Speaker 1: endangerment charge or whatever. That's the way they view it. Now.

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Speaker 1: You must suffer because there are people who are angry

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Speaker 1: and they're speaking out buck really good point you just

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Speaker 1: raised there on the political correctness because I've been thinking

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Speaker 1: about this, how did that just disappear in the nineties,

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Speaker 1: right because people out there who remember around ninety two,

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Speaker 1: ninety three, ninety one, everything was super politically correct, and

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Speaker 1: then it just basically disappeared. And by the late nineties

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Speaker 1: early two thousands, I would argue people tended to get

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Speaker 1: along pretty well. And Coulter had a has an interesting

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Speaker 1: theory on this. Maybe we'll get her on to talk

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Speaker 1: about it. She thinks that the OJ trial and verdict

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Speaker 1: is eventually shut down them the politically correct cottage industry,

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Speaker 1: because it was shut down the emotional blackmail of preposterous

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Speaker 1: either racism charges or sexism charges or whatever, but particularly

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Speaker 1: on the racism angle. It was after the OJ trial.

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Speaker 1: This is Anne's theory. I'm just remember what's really fascinating theory.

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Speaker 1: I mean, she says, she said the bank of white

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Speaker 1: guilt was shut down after the OJ trial for a while.

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Speaker 1: That was what she said. It's actually really fascinating theory.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's really she's got some smart stuff. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because it is interesting how it just vanished. We'll talk

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Speaker 1: about that. Man. We need to get her on to

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Speaker 1: talk about that theory. To how do we destroy wokeness

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Speaker 1: I know the President told us all that this was

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Speaker 1: solved long before the election, and now we find ourselves

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Speaker 1: in the last moments, in the last hours, asking us

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Speaker 1: to rush a bill to the floor. Nobody wants the

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Speaker 1: economy to fail, nobody wants this to happen. But this

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Speaker 1: just like they told us about inflation, was transitory. We

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Speaker 1: that was selected by this administration. This was something that

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Speaker 1: was celebrated by this administration that it was fixed. And now,

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Speaker 1: right before a holiday season, right when farmers need to

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Speaker 1: ship their goods and others, we have to rush something

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Speaker 1: to the floor, have to rush something to the floor

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Speaker 1: to stop a railway strike that could cost two billion

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Speaker 1: dollars a day. I want to put a pin in

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Speaker 1: that we're going to come back to this and explain

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Speaker 1: how this is a massive problem if they don't get

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Speaker 1: this thing fixed. But as promised, we've got Carrie Lake

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Speaker 1: with us now. As you know, she is still working

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Speaker 1: to get the truth of everything that happened in the

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Speaker 1: Arizona gubernatorial elect for which she was the Republican candidate.

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Speaker 1: Carry Thanks for calling in. Just take us to where

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Speaker 1: things stand right now, because we get a lot of

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Speaker 1: calls and emails asking us what's going on with Kerry

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Speaker 1: Lake in Arizona. It's a complicated situation out here, and

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Speaker 1: especially because our laws are a little bit different. You know,

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Speaker 1: to challenge an election, it has to be certified. And

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Speaker 1: people don't realize that. They're saying, why don't you have

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Speaker 1: a court case going right now? Considering everything that went wrong?

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Speaker 1: And you know, I believe in coincidences, don't get me wrong,

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Speaker 1: but when you have one after the next after the next,

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Speaker 1: thing's going wrong. When our voters were turning out on

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Speaker 1: election day and basically election they turned into a debacle

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Speaker 1: run just terribly. All the machines breaking down at more

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Speaker 1: than sixty percent of the polling places that were open

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Speaker 1: election day only, printers not working to print ballots, people

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Speaker 1: being told to throw their ballots and drawer three and

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Speaker 1: it would be brought back and counted, and some of

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Speaker 1: those ballots got mixed in with the already counted votes.

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Speaker 1: It was just it was the most rageously poorly run election.

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Speaker 1: I think in the history of elections, it makes twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty look like it was done properly. I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: crazy what happened. But in order to challenge an election here,

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Speaker 1: you have to have it certified. So we're waiting for

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Speaker 1: the state to certify it, even though it was a

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Speaker 1: sham election. And once that happens, that will trigger us

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Speaker 1: to be able to then go ahead and follow lawsuit,

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Speaker 1: which we are working on right now. And and I

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Speaker 1: feel very confident that we have an excellent lawsuit and

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Speaker 1: that when the people see it, when the judge sees it,

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Speaker 1: that they will act. You know, what can't guys, we

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Speaker 1: can't allow our elections to be run this way or

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Speaker 1: we won't have a country. What kind of thing are

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Speaker 1: you asking the judges to do once the lawsuit is filed? What,

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Speaker 1: in other words, what is the tangible result that you

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Speaker 1: think should occur based on the evidence that you've seen. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't know how you remedy this, but

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Speaker 1: I know you have to do something because we have

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Speaker 1: I'm going to say millions of people disenfranchise when you

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Speaker 1: screw up one county that has sixty two percent of

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Speaker 1: our population, when it has run so badly where the

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Speaker 1: people who choose to vote on election day are discriminated

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Speaker 1: against by having the system run so poorly, with machines

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Speaker 1: not working, cabulators not working, printers not working, two, three,

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Speaker 1: four or five hour lines, where people just said, I'm

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Speaker 1: not even going to vote. Why would I wait and

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Speaker 1: mind that long? You've got to do something. Nobody trusts

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Speaker 1: the elections, and I don't know what that remedy is.

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Speaker 1: I think it could be an acceptable remedy would be

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Speaker 1: to run the election over this time under proper independent supervision.

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Speaker 1: You've got to remember, Maricopa County is one of those

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Speaker 1: As I said, sixty two percent of Arizona's entire population

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Speaker 1: lives in one county. And the people running the Maricopa

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Speaker 1: County election, the two men running it's Stephen Richer and

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Speaker 1: Bill Gates. They ran started a pack bringing in thousands

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Speaker 1: of dollars to take down candidates like me mega candidates,

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Speaker 1: and turns out, we found out when we dug into it,

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Speaker 1: the only money they spent was to take down one

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Speaker 1: particular candidate. Can you guess who yours? Truly? So the

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Speaker 1: two guys running Maricopa County election ran a pack to

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Speaker 1: try to stop me, my campaign and our movement. Of course,

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Speaker 1: my opponent runs the statewide elections and she never recused herself.

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Speaker 1: One of the employees over at the ballot printing area,

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Speaker 1: a place called Runback, spent you know, the past several

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Speaker 1: months bad mounting me on Twitter. And one of the

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Speaker 1: other people on the Board of Supervisors who oversees and

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Speaker 1: certifies the election is in Katy Hobb's transition team. There's

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Speaker 1: so much conflict of interest and will to do harm

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Speaker 1: to our campaign. All of these people should have recused

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Speaker 1: themselves and ry, where does it stand out like this

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Speaker 1: and where does it stand now in the actual process.

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Speaker 1: So you filed? Have you filed too? I mean, tell

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Speaker 1: us what actions have been taken by your team as

644
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Speaker 1: a result of what was obviously a deeply flawed election.

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Speaker 1: That might be a charitable way to put it. Well,

646
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 1: we've filed one lawsuit and that was to get access

647
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Speaker 1: to public information because they're dragging their feet trying to

648
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Speaker 1: run out the clock over at Maricopa County. So we

649
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 1: filed that. We've been given a judge and we're not sure.

650
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Speaker 1: Hopefully he's going to move really quickly. We just we're

651
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 1: asking for basic information, how many voters checked in, how

652
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Speaker 1: many votes were cast, that kind of stuff, and they're

653
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 1: dragging their feet on giving us that information. So that's

654
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Speaker 1: the lawsuit we've filed. That is just a small lawsuit

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Speaker 1: to get information that we have a right to have,

656
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Speaker 1: and our big lawsuit will hit as soon as they

657
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Speaker 1: certify the election. I believe that's right around the fifth

658
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Speaker 1: of December, maybe to six, And we have I believe

659
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Speaker 1: five business days after they certify to file that elector

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Speaker 1: that lawsuit, and we will be doing so. So I

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00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 1: think the people in this country are saying, Wow, we

662
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 1: saw such a huge, amazing movement unlike anything we've seen

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Speaker 1: here in Arizona, and we really got people involved all

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Speaker 1: over the country and they're going, now, what, Well, we

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Speaker 1: have to wait for the process because Arizona statutes not

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Speaker 1: allow us to challenge an election until it's been certified.

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Speaker 1: In Coachief's County right now is fighting this certification. They

668
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Speaker 1: want answers because they feel their voters have been disenfranchised

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Speaker 1: by the way Miracleba County ran the election. When one

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00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 1: county screws up so badly. It affects every voter in

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Speaker 1: the state. Do you have faith in the state judiciary

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Speaker 1: that they will look at this based on the merits

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Speaker 1: and not just a settled political question. Well, when you

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00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 1: have this kind of dysfunction, I think that it's incumbent

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00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 1: upon us at this moment in history to take this

676
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: up and tackle it. And I hope that the judges.

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00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 1: You know, maybe in twenty twenty people got shamed for

678
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,720
Speaker 1: bringing up what happened in that election, and I believe

679
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 1: that was a corrupt election through and through, and I've

680
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 1: spoken out about that. We cannot continue to bury our

681
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:51,919
Speaker 1: heads in the sand, and that's why I kept bringing

682
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 1: up twenty twenty as saying, we have to reform our

683
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Speaker 1: election so that they're fair, honest, and transparent for all voters, Democrats,

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Speaker 1: Republicans alike in Independence, and I hope that we get

685
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Speaker 1: a judge who's willing to be very fair and realize

686
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Speaker 1: that when he or she looks their children or grandchildren

687
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Speaker 1: in the faith that if we don't tackle this with

688
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 1: honesty about what's happening in our elections, we can't have

689
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 1: shotty and sham elections like this, or we won't have

690
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 1: a country. So I'm going to hold out hope. I

691
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 1: believe that God is guiding me on this. And as

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Speaker 1: much as there's been days where I just wanted to

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Speaker 1: kind of, you know, lay in bed and say, oh,

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Speaker 1: this fight is too big, No, that's not why God

695
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,800
Speaker 1: put us here. He did not lead us to this campaign.

696
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 1: He didn't lead me to this campaign to start a

697
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 1: movement with we the people to quit when we go

698
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 1: into overtime. I look at us as an overtime right now.

699
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Speaker 1: And you don't walk off the field when you're in overtime.

700
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 1: That's when you ramp things up. That's when you gear

701
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Speaker 1: things up and step in and anybody out there who's listening,

702
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 1: who's thinking about, oh, we just have sham elections, it's

703
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 1: not worth voting anymore, it's not worth taking part our

704
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 1: systems crumbling. Looks your older in the face, look these

705
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,959
Speaker 1: young people in the face, and say that to them

706
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Speaker 1: that their future is just going to be what I

707
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 1: believe would be enflamement by the globalists. We have to

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Speaker 1: fight for America. It's terry worth fighting for right now.

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Speaker 1: Carry when you look at what happened in Arizona in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty, and now what has happened in Arizona in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. I'll use Florida as an example. When

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00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:27,800
Speaker 1: they had the disaster in two thousand and everybody remembers

713
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 1: holding up the punch cards to see whether or not

714
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Speaker 1: there was or was not a vote, all of the

715
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 1: legal maneuvering and shenanigans that were necessary over what I

716
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 1: think everybody is aware was a very messy election in

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Speaker 1: Florida in two thousand. They went and fixed it. And

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Speaker 1: now on twenty twenty two or twenty twenty, or whatever

719
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Speaker 1: year you want to point to, three hours after the

720
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Speaker 1: polls closed, everybody knows exactly what happened in Florida and

721
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Speaker 1: there's virtually zero arguing about the results. Why can't Arizona

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Speaker 1: do that too? Oh, we should have done it. After

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00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 1: twenty twenty we were at ground zero. We had some

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Speaker 1: lawmakers who really wanted to do this, but because of

725
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Speaker 1: the news and we did our forensic audit, which wasn't

726
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 1: a good audit, they just spent their day, all day,

727
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 1: all night trying to discredit anybody who said we need

728
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Speaker 1: to look into this, and so it never got accomplished

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Speaker 1: because the lawmakers weren't able to get they had a majority,

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Speaker 1: but it was a very small one vote majority, and

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Speaker 1: there were a few people in the legislature on the

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Speaker 1: Republican side who weren't interested in election reform, and so

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Speaker 1: we didn't have the will to do it. I did

734
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Speaker 1: have the will. I do have the will, and we

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Speaker 1: hope that the response to our lawsuit will be that

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Speaker 1: we get a redo of the election and we can

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Speaker 1: do the right thing for the people going forward. I

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Speaker 1: didn't get into politics because I want to be a politician.

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00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 1: I got into it because I'm a mom who's concerned

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Speaker 1: about the future, and we need to get people in

741
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 1: there who the voters voted for, who are going to

742
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,839
Speaker 1: do the right thing and reform our elections. It didn't

743
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,839
Speaker 1: get done after twenty twenty, sadly, and I was going

744
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Speaker 1: to do it starting on my first day in office.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's one of the reasons that they

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Speaker 1: don't want me to win. That's one of the reasons

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Speaker 1: they want to stop our movement because we're not controlled

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Speaker 1: by the big money folks. We're controlled by we the people,

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Speaker 1: and that's how our founding fathers envisioned it. Carrie Lake

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Speaker 1: still in the fight, still in overtime, Carrie, appreciate you

751
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 1: joining us and keep us, keep us in the loop,

752
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 1: let us know how it goes. I will look for

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Speaker 1: that somewhere around the twelfth of tenth eleventh, twelfth of December.

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Speaker 1: All right, thanks so much. Carrie. Was just talking about

755
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 1: how the fight continues on, and the fight for life,

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Speaker 1: for the lives of unborn babies continues day in and

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00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 1: day out. Right now, every minute there are unborn babies

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00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 1: whose lives are lost to abortion. But with all that darkness,

759
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 1: there is a light that shines, and it comes from preborn.

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Speaker 1: Preborn pregnancy clinics introduced expectant mothers considering abortion to their

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00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 1: unborn babies through an ultrasound. Once they hear that heartbeat

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Speaker 1: and see that precious life, the majority of the time

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Speaker 1: that mother will choose life. Preborn pregnancy clinics are positioned

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Speaker 1: in cities and areas where most abortions take place. These

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Speaker 1: ultrasounds are free to the expectant mothers, paid for by

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Speaker 1: donations from people like you from the pro life community.

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Speaker 1: Preborn doesn't stop there, though. They love and support these

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Speaker 1: mothers with maternity clothes, diapers, counseling, and so much more.

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Speaker 1: Preborn is completely dependent though, on your generosity the pro

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Speaker 1: life community as they fight the giants of the abortion industry.

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Speaker 1: For just twenty eight dollars, you can rescue a baby's life,

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Speaker 1: as that is the cost of one ultrasound. One hundred

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Speaker 1: and forty dollars sponsors five ultrasounds, and now through a match,

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Speaker 1: your gift is doubled. One hundred percent of your donation

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Speaker 1: will go towards saving babies. Our goal is to save

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Speaker 1: forty thousand babies and we're getting it done day in,

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Speaker 1: day out. Will you help us using your cell phone

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Speaker 1: right now, dial pound two five zero and say the

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Speaker 1: keyword baby. That's pound two fifty say baby to be

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Speaker 1: connected with someone are preborn right now? Or if you

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Speaker 1: just want to donate securely online that's how I do it,

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Speaker 1: go to preborn dot com slash buck that's preborn dot com,

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Speaker 1: slash bu c ket. Third hour of the Clay Travis

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Speaker 1: and Buck Sexton Show starts right now. Everybody, thank you

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00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 1: for rolling with us. As always. Oh boy, there's some

786
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 1: interesting situations playing out right now in the media one

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Speaker 1: of them, and I think I think the more we

788
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 1: focus in on this, the more we're doing what they

789
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 1: want us to do, But I don't want it to

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00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 1: seem like we're avoiding this case, abording this situation. Um.

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Speaker 1: And it has to do with this this dinner. I mean, Clay,

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Speaker 1: you want to talk about this right, this dinner at

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00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 1: at Mara Lago with Trump? I I I will you

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00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,359
Speaker 1: know what? Let me let can I let? I'll let

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00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 1: you set it up and then I want to get

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Speaker 1: married because my basic inclination these things is I hate

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Speaker 1: to do you do? You know? Do you announce this

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Speaker 1: person game? It's also like you know, people go every

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00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 1: time you and I have been a Marlago, Trump is

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00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 1: like high five in and hanging out with people all

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00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: over the place. It's there are literally hundreds of people

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00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 1: that are coming and going. It is a club. Yes,

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00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 1: it's a private club that people bring guests and everything else.

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00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 1: But I also I hate to do you denounce game

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00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 1: because it's always really just a version of when did

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00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 1: you stop eating your wife? Right? But tell everybody what happened,

807
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 1: just because I don't want us to get caught up

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Speaker 1: in the wire. Are you guys afraid to talk about it?

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Speaker 1: I'm afraid to talk about it, just not top of

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Speaker 1: the list. So yes, let's start here. There are lots

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Speaker 1: of times Buck, where you are I and we are

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00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 1: way down on the celebrity scale pose for a photo

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Speaker 1: or shake someone's hand, and we have no earthly idea

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Speaker 1: who those people are or what they might have done.

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Speaker 1: And I just say, we're so so we're so far

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Speaker 1: down the list that it actually, like really makes us happy,

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Speaker 1: Like it makes my day when people come up in

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Speaker 1: the airport like hey from Buck from the Bucking Clay

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Speaker 1: and Buck show, like you're awesome, and I'm like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: thank you. Well, you know, for Brad Pitt, it's an

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Speaker 1: annoyance for Clay and I were like, I must be

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00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 1: having a good hair day. I love getting to meet

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Speaker 1: all of you out there. But every year and every

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00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 1: election cycle there are stories, and you guys know exactly

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Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. Did you see this candidate shook

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Speaker 1: hands with this person or posed in a photo with

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Speaker 1: this person? And I have to tell you, most of

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Speaker 1: the time, you're just trying to be friendly. And I

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Speaker 1: know certainly politicians are doing the same. They have no

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Speaker 1: idea who they are meeting with. Okay, So I actually

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Speaker 1: do believe that Donald Trump got completely and totally set

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Speaker 1: up for this story. And if you're not familiar with

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Speaker 1: the story. Kanye West asked to meet with Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: Kanye West came tomorrow lago. He brought this guy with him,

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Speaker 1: who is I'm gonna be honest, I had never heard

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Speaker 1: of him. Buck. You said you had heard of him before.

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Speaker 1: This guy, Yeah, he's occasionally popped up here and they're

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Speaker 1: really just on social media and people call him a troll.

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Speaker 1: And he showed up and he's he said, he's kind

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Speaker 1: of like been a provocateur at some events. But I've

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Speaker 1: heard of him before, and I've never met him, never

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00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 1: seen him anywhere, never met him personally, Like, I didn't

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Speaker 1: know anything about him. So I feel like the way

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Speaker 1: that this story blew up so quickly, I feel like

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Speaker 1: this was a calculated attempt to try to go after

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump aggressively. I think Kanye West may well have

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Speaker 1: set him up in some way, But do you think

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Speaker 1: Kanye I think that people set Kanye up, or rather

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Speaker 1: use Kanye as the trojan horse here to bring in

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Speaker 1: the other people. Like I think Kanye's got problems obvious unfortunately.

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Speaker 1: I think Kanye's got big problems. But this whole meeting

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Speaker 1: and the fact that it's somehow turned into a monstrous

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Speaker 1: story that everybody on the planet seems to be talking.

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Speaker 1: Can we tell everybody what happened? Though, yet I'm not

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00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 1: sure even our audience. So I mean, basically, he went

856
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:06,479
Speaker 1: to dinner at at Mara Lago with this uh guy

857
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 1: who is an anti Semite according to the Definite. Again,

858
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 1: I don't even know this guy, like most of the time,

859
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 1: they call him the white nationalist anti Semite. His name

860
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 1: is Nick Fuentes. And then there's Kanye and Milo Unopolis,

861
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 1: whom I actually know back from the early days of Milo.

862
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 1: I had him on my early day's radio show when

863
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 1: he was working at Breitbarts. So and then Milo had

864
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 1: had a fall from from from I don't even really

865
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,360
Speaker 1: remember what it was about, but if so, it was Kanye,

866
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:39,399
Speaker 1: Milo Fuentes, and I think one or two other people

867
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 1: and I can't even remember um a lady who at

868
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 1: some point at worked with the Trump campaign named Karen

869
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 1: I believe, but that's what I That's who was at

870
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 1: the dinner, I think. Okay, So the fact that he

871
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 1: had dinner with Fuentes in particular has turned into a

872
00:47:54,840 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 1: major cultural flash point, and it rapidly spread from Oh

873
00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:03,840
Speaker 1: my goodness, he had dinner with this person, to every

874
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 1: Republican on the planet being asked for their opinion about

875
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 1: who Trump had had dinner with, and it is prolonged

876
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,720
Speaker 1: the news cycle to the extent buck where it feels

877
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:19,399
Speaker 1: like basically it's been going on all week. And my

878
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 1: position on this in general is, yes, certainly Trump can

879
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 1: do a better job, and the people around Trump can

880
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:29,240
Speaker 1: do a better job of figuring out who is dining

881
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 1: with and who he's interacting with and all these things.

882
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 1: But it feels like a calculated hit job to me

883
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 1: on Trump designed to and who exactly is designing it. So, I, yeah,

884
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,399
Speaker 1: do you have I don't have a theory. I feel

885
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 1: like that is the That is my takeaway. And if

886
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 1: you are a Trump person, I don't see any reason

887
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 1: why you would be like, oh, this was the straw

888
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 1: that broke the camel's back. I can't support him anymore.

889
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 1: So here's here's what I see from my side us.

890
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 1: And I'm also I am I'm lea hostile to caring

891
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 1: about celebrities outside of what it is that they generally do,

892
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 1: meaning I think that celebrity relationship gossip stuff is a

893
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 1: giant waste of everybody's time and makes everybody dumber. I

894
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 1: have watched a little bit of The Crown, which ties

895
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 1: in the I told you, I told you, say Clay,

896
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 1: I have responsibilities, Sir, I told you this is going

897
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 1: to happen. Every woman on the planet has watched at

898
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:26,399
Speaker 1: least one episode of The Crown. But but I'm still

899
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 1: openly hostile to these concepts. I will say I've carried

900
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 1: a lot of royal family. I'm very much involved in

901
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 1: the drama. I love all of it anyway. But with Kanye,

902
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 1: he actually has gone beyond being a music and fashion

903
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 1: and cultural icon to also crossing over a little bit

904
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,879
Speaker 1: of politics during the first Trump, during Trump's first term

905
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:51,720
Speaker 1: or Trump's term, and now obviously he's a guy who's

906
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 1: back in for saying a lot of bad stuff. And

907
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 1: the reason I just I say it that way. I'm

908
00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:00,879
Speaker 1: not trying to um in any way. What's the word

909
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:03,759
Speaker 1: I'm looking for? Downplay it. It's just I think he's

910
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 1: having a mental you know. I think it's like the

911
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 1: Will Smith slapping somebody moment, except Kanye is kind of

912
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:13,360
Speaker 1: going through that ongoing where he's having real mental health crises.

913
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:15,839
Speaker 1: So my sense of this and I don't pay very

914
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 1: much attention to certainly I don't know these these other characters.

915
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,320
Speaker 1: Is that they see a guy who has a massive,

916
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 1: massive celebrity and his immediate clickbait. Really right, I mean,

917
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 1: anything with Kanye's name on it as a headline people

918
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:31,919
Speaker 1: going to click on, and they attach themselves to him

919
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,399
Speaker 1: and come up with this idea. And look now people

920
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 1: are talking about them all of the country. I do

921
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 1: get the frustration from people who say, well, why, like,

922
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 1: no one should talk about this incident. I only think

923
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 1: it's worth discussing from the standpoint of one. Trump now

924
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 1: has apparently said that you know, he thinks this was

925
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 1: a bad idea. Yeah, yeah, he thinks he got set up.

926
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 1: But beyond that, we have to stop playing the games

927
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 1: by the other side's rules. They love this two you

928
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 1: denounce like why Kevin McCarthy is denouncing this what obviously

929
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 1: doesn't know who this you know, little weirdo is that

930
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 1: was tagging along for the dinner. It has no idea,

931
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 1: That's my point on this. Yeah, of course, and so

932
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 1: and so it's not like Trump is putting his stamp

933
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 1: of and they've lied about Trump. They lied about what

934
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 1: Trump said about Charlotte's Well, they lie about Trump all

935
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 1: the time. And on top of all this, you get

936
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:25,839
Speaker 1: all these Republicans who are rushing to get a little

937
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 1: pat on the head from the New York Times for

938
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 1: one second for saying, oh, I'd denounced this. This is terrible.

939
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 1: Did like do they denounce things? And you know, a

940
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 1: hat tip, Mike Sernovit you pointed out on Twitter that

941
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 1: you know, Barack Obama never was demanded to denounce the

942
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 1: photo of him with Lewis Ferrika Buddy buddy, right, yea,

943
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 1: So why do we do it? I just I hate this.

944
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:52,280
Speaker 1: People scared they're gonna call you a racist anyway, everybody,

945
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 1: They're gonna just what happens when you denounced? They saying, well,

946
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 1: clearly he felt guilty for his ideological sympathies. That's why

947
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 1: he wanted to denounce it. They just this is like

948
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:04,799
Speaker 1: dealing with the Gulag and the commissars sitting there saying

949
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 1: confess or we'll throw you in the Gulag. Anyway, there's

950
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 1: there's no upside. I think you're responsible for your own

951
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:15,320
Speaker 1: actions and your own behavior. I don't like the idea

952
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 1: of you're responsible for someone that you took a photo with,

953
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 1: or you're responsible for someone at a group dinner that

954
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 1: set at your table, right, And every political opinion that

955
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 1: they have automatically imputes itself to you. But in this

956
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 1: particular situation, what I do agree with Trump on the

957
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 1: set up aspect of it is nobody knows this dude, right,

958
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:39,879
Speaker 1: like buy in large. There's no people at the Washington Post.

959
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 1: He's twenty four years old, He's got his own political opinions.

960
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 1: I'm sure that I disagree with the vast majority of

961
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 1: him if he's truly an anti Semite. But the idea

962
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 1: that this guy is such a significant political figure that

963
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 1: Trump was making some sort of calculated attempt to turn

964
00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 1: his back on Jewish supporters, or it's an insult that

965
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 1: everybody in the whole political arena needs to be responding to.

966
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 1: This is where we one hundred percent or an agreement. Buck,

967
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 1: We got to stop this game. Right If if Trump

968
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:15,839
Speaker 1: comes out and says something and you disagree with it,

969
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:18,880
Speaker 1: and you're a political figure, I think that is one

970
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:22,399
Speaker 1: hundred percent fair game. That's literally what politicians do. They

971
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:24,879
Speaker 1: give you ideas and we debate them, and you're either

972
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 1: for against him, who happens to be showing up for

973
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 1: a dinner at a table that the guy didn't even

974
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 1: know that he was going to be there, and somehow

975
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 1: you're commenting on this. I just think I also want

976
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 1: to point out mess This isn't like you know, George W.

977
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 1: Bush isn't at a bumping members only club every night

978
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 1: with hundreds of people. So this is a different context.

979
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 1: These people gonna say, well, you should do a better

980
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 1: job of who you have dinner with. Okay, Yeah, obviously

981
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 1: this slipped through and this was this was not this

982
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 1: was unwise. I'm not going to sit here and say that, Well,

983
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 1: clearly they've used this to attack him all week now.

984
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 1: It's been this. It didn't just happen. I think it

985
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 1: half moments last front an entire week's news cycle. That's yeah,

986
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:07,839
Speaker 1: I'm at the gym, and the gym I will tell

987
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 1: you in what I'm in the Florida gym, the New

988
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:12,800
Speaker 1: York gym at CNN all the time, Florida, Jim Clay

989
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 1: Fox at least half. I mean you are in the

990
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 1: Red state America now, brother, Yeah, I'm spending spending more

991
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:21,879
Speaker 1: time here in the winter because I like it down

992
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 1: here in South Florida. Anyway, the put I'm back up

993
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 1: the New York sometimes, and so I see the difference.

994
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 1: It's amazing. You could tell it's fifty fifty CNN. Fox News.

995
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 1: CNN has been running with the story like it's the

996
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:35,360
Speaker 1: biggest story all week. Trump has dinner there, And again,

997
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 1: I don't even the fact we've been talking about it

998
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 1: at some level of frustration, but it's been such a

999
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 1: story that everyone else is using to attack. They're they're

1000
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 1: forcing us on some degree of defense here, and I

1001
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:47,760
Speaker 1: don't even think like Trump shouldn't have to defend himself

1002
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 1: from this in the sense that he has dinner. Things

1003
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:53,399
Speaker 1: that Trump does, this seems to me to be so

1004
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 1: far down the list of things that he's actually responsible for.

1005
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 1: If you want to go out on the laws Jewish

1006
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 1: and his daughter converted, Judy moved to the embassy. I'm

1007
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 1: not sure there's anybody who is more beloved in Israel

1008
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 1: in all of American politics right now than Donald Trump.

1009
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 1: He's clearly not anti Semitic. If you want to go

1010
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 1: after Trump because you don't like the statement that he

1011
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:17,720
Speaker 1: put out about Rhynda Santis or Glenn Junkin, like those

1012
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:22,319
Speaker 1: are very attackable to me level disputes and debates that

1013
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:25,399
Speaker 1: people can get involved in. But the idea that this

1014
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 1: has turned into a week long story to me is

1015
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 1: evidence that it feels like to me, somebody was trying

1016
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 1: to just Trump. I just want to point out that

1017
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 1: the thing about Marlago is Trump is there, He eats dinner.

1018
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:39,280
Speaker 1: They have him kind of roped off sometimes with secret service,

1019
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 1: but he's just out there and there are all these

1020
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:42,920
Speaker 1: people who are there, and they come over, they want

1021
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:44,399
Speaker 1: to shake his hand, they want to take photos of them.

1022
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 1: People join him ad hoc. And this is night after

1023
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 1: night after night, so it's not you know, Trump is

1024
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:53,279
Speaker 1: almost like a restaurant tour and people are coming and

1025
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 1: going from his restaurant all the time. So when you

1026
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 1: think of it in that context, it's much more understandable

1027
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 1: how this kind of thing. You know, how often do

1028
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 1: I sit down and have dinner with like three random people? Well? Never,

1029
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 1: But I'm not running Moro Lago. I don't own it,

1030
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 1: so it's different. I also think buck the bigger picture here,

1031
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:14,279
Speaker 1: intent matters, right. If you're going to criticize somebody, make

1032
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 1: sure that they are intending to do something right. There

1033
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 1: was no intent here on Trump's behalf. That's why I say,

1034
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:24,320
Speaker 1: if you want to rip some of these public statements

1035
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:26,280
Speaker 1: that he puts out about, like I said, Ronda Santis,

1036
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 1: Clay Young, and whatever else, those are fair game. But

1037
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:32,319
Speaker 1: he didn't intend to sit down to dinner with this guy. Now,

1038
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 1: if you want to criticize his staff and say, oh,

1039
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 1: they've got to do a better job of figuring out

1040
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 1: every single person's background who was sitting at the table

1041
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:42,799
Speaker 1: with him, I would also say this. This is the

1042
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 1: celebrity angle Kanye West, whoever the people are. He's a

1043
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 1: global celebrity, and Trump loves celebrities. But he's got an entourage. Right.

1044
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 1: I'll give you an example. Let the super Bowl twenty twenty.

1045
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 1: Deontay Wilder's a heavyweight champion of the world. We were

1046
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 1: doing a show with him. Twenty people rolled in with

1047
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:03,439
Speaker 1: the Wilder twenty people buck like and entourage the likes

1048
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 1: of which I have rarely seen. We got pictures taken

1049
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 1: with everybody in that entourage. We hook hung out with him.

1050
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 1: I have no idea what any of the people Indiante

1051
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 1: Wilder's entourage do for a living, what backgrounds they have.

1052
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 1: The celebrity culture I don't think it's uncommon if you

1053
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 1: roll into a Hollywood club or if you're at Mara Lago,

1054
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 1: or you're any of these places, the entourage nobody knows

1055
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 1: who's involved in the entourage. And and it just but

1056
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 1: on the Republicans because that's the other part of this too.

1057
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 1: I think we could have ignored it except all these

1058
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 1: Republican Kevin McCarthy or now the soon to be House

1059
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 1: Majority leader, all these Republicans are, oh, you know, it's

1060
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 1: so terrible, and I need to I need to know

1061
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 1: we were We don't. We have nothing to do with

1062
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 1: white nationalists. We have nothing to do with anti Semite. Everybody, Yes,

1063
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 1: everyone hates them, like, don't do this thing. We're always

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