1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: Hi, I'm George Nori, and welcome to the new I 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: Heart Media and Coast to Coast, a m paranormal podcast network. 3 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:09,639 Speaker 1: Like us on Facebook, Tell your friends and share us 4 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: with everyone. This is an exciting new network that will 5 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:17,240 Speaker 1: feature podcasts of the paranormal, supernatural, and the unexplained. Now 6 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 1: sit back, please and enjoy Strange Things with Joshua P. Warren. 7 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 1: Get ready to be amazed by the wizard of Weird. 8 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: This is Strange Things with Joshua pe Warren. I am 9 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: Joshua P. Warren, and each week called this show, I'll 10 00:00:55,880 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: be bringing you grand news, fine blowing content, news, exercises 11 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: and experiments you can do at home, and a lot more. Hey, 12 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: let me ask you a question. Have you ever slipped 13 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: into another dimension and then back out and then realized 14 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: what happened only after the fact, kind of like deja vu? 15 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: Now that it might sound eerily familiar to some of you, 16 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: it is this highly bizarre thing that we sometimes call 17 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: the odds factor. And I'm going to give you some 18 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: examples of this. I'm going to tell you about some 19 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: experiences that others have had, things that have happened to me, 20 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: and then maybe some some ideas, some theories about what 21 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: this experience is and how it applies to our perception 22 00:01:56,560 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: of reality. You know, I just got an email from 23 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: a listener named Chris who lives in Missouri. I want 24 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: to read some of his email to you. I'm going 25 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 1: to paraphrase some of it, and this may sound a 26 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 1: bit confusing to you at first, because he was confused 27 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 1: by what happened to him. Here's what he wrote. I 28 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: just had an experience that I've never before had in 29 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: my life. I had just watched an interview with STANDEO, 30 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 1: who was talking about parallel universes. Afterwards, I decided to 31 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: go on a midnight ride, which I do quite frequently, 32 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 1: not being able to sleep at a decent hour sometimes. 33 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: I decided to take Highway six to a little bump 34 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: in the road called Rock Springs and then take the 35 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: back roads to Highway M, which would take me to 36 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: Highway thirteen and then home. All right, so he had 37 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: this route worked out. He goes on to say, everything 38 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: was fine, or so I thought. I had just gotten 39 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: onto Highway M from the gravel road I was on, 40 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: and then things got weird, although I never actually felt anything, 41 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: so I didn't suspect anything. I was driving along just fine, 42 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 1: at least until I came across a right hand curve 43 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: and I thought to myself, I don't remember there being 44 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: a curve on this road. I continued on and soon 45 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: crossed a bridge and thought to myself, I don't remember 46 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: there being a bridge on this road. And then there 47 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: was another right hand curve in the road. Again, I 48 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: don't remember there being another curve on this road. And 49 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: after a bit I looked up at my van's compass 50 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: and it said north. I was going north. Well, Highway 51 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: m is straight as an era, going east to west 52 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: from the point I got on it until I get 53 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: to Highway thirteen, which goes north to south, where I 54 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:55,119 Speaker 1: make my turn for the last leg of my journey, 55 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: he said. The road eventually turned west, but soon I 56 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: started seeing how says fairly close together, which shouldn't be there. 57 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: I decided to stop and find out exactly where the 58 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: hell I was because I was getting a little concerned, 59 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: as you might imagine. I got my phone out and 60 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: brought up the maps app, and the first thing it 61 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: showed was a little town called Coffee, a small village 62 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: about fifteen miles north of Highway six, and he says 63 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: it showed coffee. I looked around. I couldn't find anything 64 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 1: to indicate I was there. There was no little icon 65 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:33,919 Speaker 1: showing my position, he says. Finally I looked around, and 66 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:38,359 Speaker 1: eventually my icon showed up about a how half a 67 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: mile from where I got on to Highway M from 68 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:45,799 Speaker 1: the gravel road. He said. He began to think about 69 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: that STANDEO interview, and he thought how ironic, he said. 70 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: I got my van going and occasionally glanced at my phone. 71 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: My little icon was not even moving along Highway M 72 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 1: as it should have been. Then all of a sudden, 73 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: after I'd passed some more houses, it showed up, showed 74 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: me moving again. And he says, after I had gone 75 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 1: by more houses, it showed I was moving on Highway 76 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: M as I should have been from the start. And 77 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: then I started noticing things I was used to sing. 78 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: Another five miles or so, and I was at the 79 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: junction of Highways M and thirteen, and that was the end. 80 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: He said, whoa wide an experience. Now again, maybe that 81 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:42,799 Speaker 1: sounded a little confusing to you, So let me add 82 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 1: some clarification. About fifteen years ago, I took a road 83 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 1: trip with my great friend, Casey Fox, a guy I 84 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: have known practically my entire life. He's an investigator. We 85 00:05:55,920 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: met in the first grade, and I had decided to 86 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:05,239 Speaker 1: travel from western North Carolina to eastern eastern North Carolina. 87 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: North Carolina is a long state, and we were going 88 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: to drive something like, you know, seven hours or whatever 89 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 1: to this little town in a very rural part of 90 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: the state where, according to some early newspaper accounts, some 91 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 1: railroad workers had accidentally cracked open a cave and discovered 92 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: the remains of some giant humanoids. It's one of these stories. 93 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 1: They were actually kind of plentiful back in the railroad days. 94 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 1: We're talking about the late eighteen hundreds in particular, a 95 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 1: lot of these stories began to come out. But what 96 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 1: what made this this story so especially interesting to me 97 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: is that there was at that time an elderly widow 98 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: who lived there near the site where this discovery supposedly occurred. 99 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: And her late husband had spent decades as his hobby 100 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: going out and hiking the woods and scouring the swamps 101 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: and collecting fossils and artifacts and things. And he had 102 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: more or less a workshop there on his property that 103 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: was full of not only really strange bones and fossils, 104 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: but artifacts that were way too huge to be wielded 105 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: by the average sized human. I'm talking about you know, 106 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: ax heads and hammers and uh, you know tools things 107 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: like that that were just ten times the size of 108 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: what any human would use. So we were going there 109 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: primarily to see her collection. And uh, of course, when 110 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: I make a road trip to investigate one strange thing, 111 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: I look and see how many other odd things might 112 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: be in the area that I can check out as well. 113 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: So we we went there, we met her, had a 114 00:07:56,560 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: fantastic time, and and frankly, that is a whole story 115 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: for another podcast, and I promise you one day I'll 116 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: dig into that. But the point of the story that 117 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: I'm bringing up right now is that, you know, Casey 118 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: and I were running around this whole area, and we 119 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: were going to libraries and we were interviewing historians and 120 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: doing everything we could. And one evening, I can't remember 121 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: where we decided to go. It was getting kind of 122 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: late at night. Casey was driving and we got on 123 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: some road that was so pitch black that, um, it 124 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: was sort of it was so dark, it was mesmerizing, 125 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: and in fact, it reminds me thinking back on it, 126 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 1: of a movie set. For example, I've said this before. 127 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: One of my favorite movies is the silly comedy Peewee's 128 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: Big Adventure, And there are scenes that they shot where 129 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: Pee Peewee is driving down the highway and it looks 130 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: just like insanely dark all around him because they were 131 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:04,079 Speaker 1: on a studio. They were on a set, And this 132 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 1: is sort of what it began to feel like that 133 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: I wasn't outside anymore in nature, that I was on 134 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:14,959 Speaker 1: some kind of a set. And at one point, after 135 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 1: I realized that I was, I don't know, I'd fallen 136 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: into some kind of zone. I said to to Casey, 137 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: you know what, we haven't passed a car or seen 138 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: anything for about an hour now. And uh he he goes, yeah, 139 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 1: you're right, we haven't. So we're like, where the heck 140 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 1: are we know? So, I don't know what our cell 141 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: phone technology was at the time, but I do remember 142 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: we had no type of cell phone signal or anything 143 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 1: like that. I was pulling out maps trying to figure 144 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 1: out where we supposedly were, but the maps were not 145 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: meshing whatsoever with our experience. And I mean we didn't 146 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 1: see any landmarks, no houses, I'm telling you nothing. And 147 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, after more than an hour 148 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: of this Casey slammed on the brakes. The road ended. Literally, 149 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: the road just stopped. We got out of the car, 150 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: and where the road had stopped, there was just land 151 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: in front of us as far as we could see, 152 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:27,719 Speaker 1: and we were absolutely just uh, well, we we were 153 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: so confused, we were so disoriented. We said, what the 154 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: heck has happened here? Let me tell you, some pretty 155 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: choice words were coming from our mouths. And we were 156 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: starting to get a little worried, also because we were 157 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: kind of getting low on gas, so we said, we 158 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: gotta we gotta drive and find some way out. So 159 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: we get back in the car. We start heading back 160 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 1: the other way. We're not seeing anything. We're getting hungrier 161 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 1: and hungrier. We're starting to freak out more and more. 162 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:59,319 Speaker 1: We're really getting worried. And every I mean whenever there 163 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 1: was a turn, there was no sign or anything. And 164 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: these are major roads. I mean, it wasn't like we're 165 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 1: a little dirt roads or cow paths. So we just 166 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: keep driving and taking turns. We never see anything, Okay, 167 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 1: no houses, no light posts, no mailboxes, no nothing. I 168 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: don't hear anything, and then all of a sudden, up ahead, 169 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:27,319 Speaker 1: we saw this golden globe and it was just striking 170 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: standing out against this absolutely you know, sort of flat 171 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: black world that we were that we were driving through. 172 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: And so we said, well, let's go to that light. 173 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 1: Let's go to the light. We got closer and closer 174 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: to the golden light and it began to take shape 175 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 1: and form, and it was it was the Golden Arches. 176 00:11:55,440 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 1: There was a McDonald's. There, there was nothing else around 177 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 1: this McDonald's. There were no cars in the parking lot. 178 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: Casey and I pulled up to the drive through window 179 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 1: and this at this at this point, you know, this 180 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: is probably like two in the morning, there is this 181 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: beautiful woman at the at the at the window and 182 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 1: she's glowing like some kind of an angel. She has 183 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: this big, bright smile and it's just the most model 184 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 1: McDonald's employee you could ever ask for. And Casey and 185 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 1: I go, wow, we're so happy to see you. She 186 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 1: had this, you know again, big bright smile, and she goes, oh, sure, 187 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 1: what can we get for you? You know, first off, 188 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: I said, where are we? So she starts saying a 189 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:46,839 Speaker 1: lot of stuff to us that doesn't make any sense. 190 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: She's she says, you know such and such town, you 191 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 1: know such and such. No, none of it makes any 192 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: sense to me or Casey. And you know, Casey was 193 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: a boy scout and all that, and he was really 194 00:12:56,360 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: good at directions and went camping all the time. Never 195 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 1: made any sense to us, and so we were just 196 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 1: happy to have some food. We ordered a couple of 197 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 1: Big Max and fries and Coca Cola's, and then we 198 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 1: drove off just you know, just happy to have some food. 199 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: And let me tell you what, that was the best 200 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:17,079 Speaker 1: big Mac and fries and coke I've ever had. And no, 201 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: McDonald's is not a sponsor of this podcast. And I 202 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,959 Speaker 1: don't even eat that stuff anymore because I try to 203 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: stay healthy. But we drove for about another thirty minutes, 204 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: and then it was like all of a sudden, we 205 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:35,439 Speaker 1: were back. I don't I don't even remember us transitioning 206 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: from there to being back, but we we suddenly we 207 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:43,559 Speaker 1: saw things that looked like the real modern world again, 208 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 1: and we got gas and I started asking everybody I 209 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: could find, like, what, you know, where is this McDonald's 210 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: and how why does the road end? And everybody looks 211 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 1: at us like we're crazy, right, they don't know what 212 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 1: we're talking about. Well, guess what, that's not the only 213 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: time something like that has happened to me. Something perhaps 214 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: even more bizarre along those lines happened to me at 215 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: a place famous for strange happenings, Brown Mountain, site of 216 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: the eerie Brown Mountain Lights. When we come back from 217 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: this break, I'm going to tell you what happened to 218 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: me there, and then we'll dig into what all this 219 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: may mean. 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Welcome back to Strange Things on the I 256 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: Heart Media hand Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. 257 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 1: I am your host, the Wizard of Weird, Joshua P. Warren, 258 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: beaming into your wormhole brain from my studio here and 259 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: send city Las Vegas, Nevada, where every day is golden 260 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 1: and every night is silver. And it's important for you 261 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:46,439 Speaker 1: to subscribe to this podcast, follow this podcast, tell everybody 262 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: you know about this podcast, and you know what. We 263 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: treat our sponsors very very well on this podcast, so 264 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:59,400 Speaker 1: let us know if you might be interested and advertising 265 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:02,919 Speaker 1: something and reaching a lot of people all around the world. 266 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: Before the break, I was talking about my experience on 267 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:12,959 Speaker 1: a bizarre road trip long ago with my buddy Casey Fox. 268 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 1: It seemed like we may have slipped into some type 269 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 1: of another dimension and back. It was hard to tell 270 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 1: you that story without using some bad language. There was 271 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:29,120 Speaker 1: a lot of what do you know what happening on 272 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 1: that trip, because sometimes when you think about the the 273 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:37,679 Speaker 1: idea of going into another dimension and then coming back, 274 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 1: you you think of it as being some kind of bizarre, 275 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 1: upside down inside out world with aliens running around where 276 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:50,400 Speaker 1: you know nothing is as it should be. But actually, 277 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: maybe that's not exactly the case. Maybe there are many 278 00:18:54,680 --> 00:19:00,080 Speaker 1: many different dimensions that are kind of overlapped, and you 279 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 1: know they're they're stacked on top of and within each other, 280 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: and they are just slightly ajar from each other, they're 281 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 1: slightly different. If you ever played the old video game 282 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: Super Mario Brothers, let's see, I think it was. I 283 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:21,880 Speaker 1: think it was the second one. I'm not don't don't 284 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 1: quote me on that. I believe it was the second one. 285 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 1: But it was one where sometimes your character and you 286 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 1: could pick Mario or Luigi or the Princess, would be 287 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 1: walking along and there would be a doorway, and if 288 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 1: you walked into the doorway, you would find yourself behind 289 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: the scenes of the game, so you would see the 290 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: same basic structures, except it was like a shadowy version 291 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 1: like your backstage, and then back there you would find 292 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 1: items that you wouldn't find out front. So it looked similar, 293 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 1: but just not quite the same with me on that. 294 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: So that may be a good way of envisioning what 295 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 1: it's like when you just occasionally slip into another dimension, 296 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: another layer, another level of this reality, and then back. 297 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: And before I tell you about my Brown Mountain story, 298 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 1: I want to mention this real quick. I think it's interesting. 299 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 1: When I started this podcast podcast off, I was talking 300 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: about Chris having this experience in Missouri and how that 301 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: in his email he said he was watching an interview 302 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:37,199 Speaker 1: with a man talking about parallel universes and then he 303 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: had this experience. And so sometimes it makes you think 304 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 1: that when you expose yourself to this kind of unusual content, 305 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 1: it might even increase the chances of you experiencing something. 306 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: For example, years ago, I was hosting a show called 307 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: Speaking of Strange, and at that time it was a 308 00:20:56,800 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 1: live show, and so we would end pretty late at night, 309 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: and then sometimes afterward I would go to a local 310 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 1: bar and wind down. You know, the bars would close 311 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 1: in North Carolina until they usually closed about two in 312 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 1: the morning. And long story short, one night I was 313 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: interviewing my friend Nick Redfern about cryptids monsters, and we 314 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: talked about hell hounds and black dogs, these ominous dogs 315 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:30,400 Speaker 1: that look very similar to normal black dogs, but they 316 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 1: are often bigger. Sometimes they have glowing red eyes. Sometimes 317 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 1: they're very destructive. Sometimes they appear to indicate doom and gloom. 318 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 1: Sometimes they appear to indicate something protective, something good. But 319 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 1: I'd interviewed him for like two hours about this subject, 320 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: and then the show is over. It's like, okay, great show. 321 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: And so I was in my car driving to go 322 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 1: to this bar. There was a kind of uh on 323 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 1: on the edge of town, next to a river, and 324 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: one of the uh people on the show a great 325 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 1: friend of mine, investigator Shelley Right. Okay, she was always 326 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 1: on the program, and um, you probably know Shelley right. 327 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:16,679 Speaker 1: She was driving behind me as we were heading to 328 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: this bar, and all of a sudden, as I was 329 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:24,919 Speaker 1: approaching this bridge, it was like, what the There was 330 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 1: this big, hulking black creature in the road in front 331 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 1: of me. And the only way I can really describe 332 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:36,360 Speaker 1: it to you is it looked like a big, massive 333 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 1: It looked like a cross between like a bulldog and 334 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 1: a black bear, but it had the face of a 335 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:50,959 Speaker 1: bat and it looked at me and its eyes just 336 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:57,640 Speaker 1: shined and I don't remember them being read, but they 337 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: it definitely shined like at least that hot white, you know. 338 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: And I was stunned for a minute. And then I 339 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 1: jumped out of the car. And at this point Shelley, 340 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 1: who's behind me, She's like, what is going on? She 341 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 1: got out of the car. I'm like, look, look, look, 342 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 1: and this thing barreled off the road, down into the 343 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 1: bushes and disappeared into the shadows under the bridge. And 344 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, you know, I've written books about strange creatures. 345 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 1: I can't explain what that was. And it wasn't until 346 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,360 Speaker 1: I got to the bar and just kept going over 347 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 1: and over like, man, that was so weird. I can't 348 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,640 Speaker 1: believe what I just saw. Only then I was like, oh, yeah, 349 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 1: we we just interviewed Nick Redfern for two hours about 350 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:46,479 Speaker 1: this sort of thing, and he said they often appear 351 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 1: around bridges and water. Maybe it has something to do 352 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,239 Speaker 1: with the way the energy flows and these creatures are 353 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: attracted to that. But this is just another odd little 354 00:23:56,080 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 1: spinoff idea from what Chris was saying that, you know, 355 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 1: he heard a guy talking about parallel universes and then boom, 356 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:07,159 Speaker 1: next thing, you know, he experiences something along those lines. 357 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 1: And this is similar to maybe you know whatever my 358 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: conversation was with Nick Redfern taking hold in my mind 359 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 1: and making me more apt to have this this experience. 360 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 1: So that said, the story that I really want to 361 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 1: tell you, though, is about Brown Mountain, North Carolina, in 362 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: the western part of the state there, and it is 363 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 1: famous for the Brown Mountain lights, these multi colored balls 364 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: of light that float on and around the ridge at night. 365 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: I could do a whole podcast about the Brown Mountain lights. 366 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 1: Someday I will do that. This is actually a good 367 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: time of year to see them, when you go outside 368 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 1: and the leaves are off the trees and it's cold 369 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: and rainy and uncomfortable. So a lot of strange things 370 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 1: happen around Brown Mountain. People see ghosts, they see aliens, 371 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 1: they're abducted by aliens, they see all kinds of UFOs. 372 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 1: There are plenty of weird creature reports time slips. I mean, 373 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 1: it's like a miniature Bermuda Triangle. If you've never looked 374 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: up the Brown Mountain lights, go to Brown Mountain Lights 375 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,399 Speaker 1: dot com. That's all spelled out Brown Mountain Lights dot 376 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 1: Com and you can read all about it. So anyway, 377 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 1: I spent many years going up to Brown Mountain and 378 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: getting permits from the National Forest Service so that my 379 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: team and I could go behind these gates on these 380 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:30,880 Speaker 1: service roads and explore the area around Brown Mountain, set 381 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 1: up tents, use you know, we'd sleep for nights in 382 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,640 Speaker 1: a row with all the scientific gear, and we would 383 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 1: run around the mountain and adjacent mountains at night trying 384 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 1: to see if we could figure out what was causing 385 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: these lights. And one of the guys that we had 386 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:51,400 Speaker 1: with us was active duty U. S. Army, and this 387 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 1: guy was an expert at reading maps, and he would 388 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 1: bring all the maps, every type of map you could imagine, 389 00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: and uh he this this was he was one of 390 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 1: those guys who wasn't just in the army. He was 391 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: somebody who loved being in the army. You know. He 392 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 1: he retired, he's now retired from the army. So this 393 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 1: is a guy who loved being that type of military dude, 394 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:17,160 Speaker 1: you know, who took his job very very seriously, very 395 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:23,919 Speaker 1: detail oriented man. And so one night we decided to 396 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 1: go walking off down this sort of logging trail that 397 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: we found to see if it would take us to 398 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 1: a certain angle on the mountain and it looked like 399 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,719 Speaker 1: it was more or less a straight shot, and there 400 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 1: is a fairly large group of us there were it 401 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: was all guys. I'd say, we may have had ten 402 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:47,159 Speaker 1: people this night. And so we go walking through these woods. 403 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 1: This was in the fall. It was really cool and crisp, 404 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 1: and the leaves were all crackling and everything, and uh, 405 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 1: the moon was extremely bright. And so as we're walking 406 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 1: through the wood, usually there's some banter going on. And 407 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 1: it wasn't until we've been walking for quite a while 408 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 1: that I realized. It's just like occurred to me that 409 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 1: everything was absolutely silent. And the next thing, you know, 410 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 1: I'm just sort of standing there looking around at the 411 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:29,160 Speaker 1: forest that's absolutely silent. And then I realized not only 412 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 1: is everything silent, but everything is sort of glowing blue, 413 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 1: this pale blue, you know, like the moonlight, but a 414 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: little bit more. There was like a blue edge to everything. 415 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 1: And for a second, it seemed like I was standing 416 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 1: there all by myself, perfectly quiet in these woods, not 417 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,640 Speaker 1: so much as the crackle of a leaf. And then 418 00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:00,040 Speaker 1: I start to hear this bubbling and that's when I 419 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 1: look over and there is this beautiful little brook maybe about, 420 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 1: you know, thirty ft from me, and a little bridge 421 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: going over here. We are again, going back to running 422 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 1: water and a little bridge this, I mean, like scenic, 423 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,880 Speaker 1: little cute bridge in the middle of nowhere, going over 424 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 1: this little bubbling brook, everything glowing blue, the trees all 425 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:35,640 Speaker 1: around us, soaring up into the sky. And I turned around, 426 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,680 Speaker 1: just like, where are the other guys? And I turned 427 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 1: around and all the other guys were doing the same thing. 428 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 1: We were all just standing there, just zoned out in 429 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 1: our own little world. Nobody was looking at me. I 430 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 1: was the only one looking at them. They were all 431 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 1: just standing just like staring either up in the sky 432 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: or down to the brook. And everything was super at 433 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: absolutely quiet. And so that's when I finally said, where 434 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 1: are we? What is that bridge? And and then like 435 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 1: everybody snapped out of it, and we instantly all realized 436 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 1: that we didn't know how long we've kind of been 437 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: sort of standing there in that state. So now we 438 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 1: all start walking. At this point, you know, you could 439 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 1: hear the leaves crackling a little bit again as we walked, 440 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: but I mean not not nearly like it should have been. 441 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 1: So we get down to this little I mean, it 442 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 1: looks like this was an old bridge, and I mean 443 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 1: it was the water. It wasn't a very big brook, 444 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: like a little creek. You know, the water was kind 445 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 1: of sparkling with these little blue sparkles as it was 446 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 1: running under the bridge. And we've we found that we're 447 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 1: kind of like down in a little valley. So at 448 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 1: one point I said to the army guy, what is 449 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 1: the you know, let's take a look at the map. 450 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 1: So he gets out the map, I mean, turn on 451 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 1: a flashlight, and there's nothing on the map. And this 452 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 1: is a topographical map to indicate anything about the lay 453 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 1: of the land or where we're where we're at, Like, 454 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 1: this is just not fitting. It's not making sense in 455 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 1: any way whatsoever. So we start, you know, figuring out, well, 456 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 1: should we just turn around and like go back out 457 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 1: the same way we came in, or what do we do? 458 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 1: And then one of the guys goes look and we 459 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 1: turned and then up in front of us on kind 460 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 1: of like the side of this valley is a little 461 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 1: old cabin, dark cabin, just sitting there quietly nestled into 462 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 1: the side of the hill. And so we go, what 463 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 1: let's go, Let's go to this cabin. So we crept 464 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 1: up the side of this valley as quietly as we could, 465 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 1: because we thought, are we gonna get shot? Like? Who's 466 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 1: in this thing? We gotta take a break when we 467 00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 1: come back. Wait till you hear what was inside at 468 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 1: this cabin. All right, this is one of those things, 469 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 1: one of those things that just doesn't quite You'll see 470 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 1: what I mean. You'll see what I mean. That's what 471 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 1: this show is about, stuff that sometimes is too strange 472 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 1: to fit neatly into the compartment. It's called Strange Things. 473 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 1: I'm your host, Joshua Pee Warren. You're listening to Strange 474 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 1: Things on the I Heart Media and Coast to Coast 475 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 1: a M paranormal podcast network. I will be right back. 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And 486 00:32:38,480 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 1: now back to Joshua P. Warren and Strange Things. You're 487 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:19,479 Speaker 1: listening to Strange Things on the I Heart Media and 488 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:24,520 Speaker 1: Coast to Coast AM Paranormal podcast Network, the show where 489 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 1: the Unusual Becomes Usual. I am your host, Joshua P. Warren, 490 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 1: and I hope that you will go to my website 491 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 1: Joshua P. Warren dot com. There's no period after the 492 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:41,719 Speaker 1: p check out the Curiosity Shop. You will find amazing 493 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 1: things there that you will not find anywhere else on 494 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 1: planet Earth. I promise you that a lot of it 495 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 1: is uh sold out from time to time because we're 496 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 1: talking about small, private, you know, handcrafted batches of stuff. 497 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 1: So if you see something and you like it, you 498 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 1: better snatch it up because I get a lot of 499 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 1: emails from people saying, oh please, Mr Warren, make just 500 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 1: one for me. Well, you know I can't do that, 501 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 1: all right. So here we were creeping up towards this 502 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 1: dark cabin on the side of this valley that's sort 503 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 1: of glowing blue on this deadly silent night somewhere around 504 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:35,400 Speaker 1: Brown Mountain, North Carolina, and you know, we were thinking Okay, 505 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 1: could there be some old hunter in here who's gonna 506 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 1: kind of come out and start just start shooting. I 507 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,359 Speaker 1: wouldn't blame him if he did. You see a big 508 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,839 Speaker 1: group of guys like us come, you know, creeping up. 509 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,720 Speaker 1: But the curiosity was too much. Maybe it was gonna 510 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 1: kill the cat this night. We didn't know. So we 511 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:57,839 Speaker 1: just very very carefully eased our way up this embankment. 512 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 1: And then when we he got to the cabin, the 513 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 1: cabin didn't really look that old. It definitely looked like, 514 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,280 Speaker 1: you know it it was warned, it had been used, 515 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 1: it's seen some better days, but it wasn't like some 516 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:16,960 Speaker 1: kind of decrepit thing. And so we go peeking into 517 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 1: the windows and we didn't see any evidence that anybody 518 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 1: was there. You know, there were no boots on the step, 519 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,360 Speaker 1: there was no um, you know, none of the typical 520 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 1: stuff you might find maybe some candles or you know, 521 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 1: evidence of a grill, nothing like that. And then somebody 522 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 1: got bold enough to shine a flashlighting side and it 523 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:46,839 Speaker 1: looked still like it was relatively empty, except there were 524 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:50,359 Speaker 1: some utensils, and so we're thinking, like, should we go 525 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:54,240 Speaker 1: inside this thing or not? And then you know, again 526 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,719 Speaker 1: you know how it goes. Somebody said, well, the door 527 00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:01,239 Speaker 1: is not locked. So next thing you know, we are 528 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:06,799 Speaker 1: stepping into the creaky sort of kitchen area of this 529 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:12,320 Speaker 1: old cabin. And we walked around and there was nobody 530 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 1: in the cabin, so we're like sigh of relief. We 531 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:20,800 Speaker 1: looked over. There were plates strewn around, there were dishes, 532 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 1: there were old ten cups, and there were some newspapers 533 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 1: and periodicals in the corner and some on the table, 534 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 1: and we went over and looked at them and are 535 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:37,080 Speaker 1: you ready? Can you guess what I'm gonna tell you next? 536 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 1: There was nothing on any one of these periodicals that 537 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:50,440 Speaker 1: was dated later than the nineteen sixties. Nothing. Some were newspapers, 538 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:56,840 Speaker 1: some were magazines, all of it nineteen sixties or older. 539 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 1: And let me say it, they looked like they were 540 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:07,960 Speaker 1: in pretty great condition. And it just keeps getting weirder 541 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 1: and weirder, until finally we all just sort of said, 542 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:12,480 Speaker 1: you know what, maybe we just need to get out 543 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,280 Speaker 1: of here. Just something didn't feel right. We all started 544 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,239 Speaker 1: kind of like getting the hebe gebs and kind of 545 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,960 Speaker 1: freaking out at once, and so we got out of 546 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,360 Speaker 1: the cabin. We left it just as we found it. 547 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:27,080 Speaker 1: We kept walking up this valley, we found another old 548 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,920 Speaker 1: logging road. We trudged on and on and on. We 549 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 1: could never figure out what the heck was going on. 550 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,320 Speaker 1: And then finally it was like some kind of miracle happened, 551 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,840 Speaker 1: snaff the fingers. The next thing, you know where we 552 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 1: see our campsite up ahead, and we come back out 553 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,799 Speaker 1: to our campsite. Now we have our bearings again, our 554 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 1: compasses are working properly. I forgot to tell you that 555 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:52,239 Speaker 1: the compasses were not not acting the way they should 556 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,840 Speaker 1: have been acting. We were getting different compass readings on 557 00:37:54,920 --> 00:38:00,479 Speaker 1: multiple compasses. Like that kind of stuff was happening. So 558 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,839 Speaker 1: we said, well that we don't know exactly where we 559 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 1: were or why what happened there, but that was definitely strange. 560 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,759 Speaker 1: Tomorrow we'll get to the bottom of this. We were 561 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:12,080 Speaker 1: really just wiped out, drained, exhausted. We all went to bed. 562 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,320 Speaker 1: The next day, we got up, had a hearty breakfast, 563 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,640 Speaker 1: we took out the maps. We still couldn't figure out 564 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,719 Speaker 1: anything like that on the map. We went out all 565 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:25,640 Speaker 1: day long and we explored as far and as wide 566 00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:29,240 Speaker 1: as we could the same areas, and we never saw 567 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:33,759 Speaker 1: anything that looked like that and since then to this day, 568 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 1: there has been not one shred of evidence on any 569 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 1: map or from anybody I've talked to to indicate that 570 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 1: that exists, that that little bridge over that brook next 571 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:54,359 Speaker 1: to that cabin exists. What happened there? What was this 572 00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,920 Speaker 1: eerie moment that set in where all of a sudden 573 00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,320 Speaker 1: we we I mean, we saw something that seemed to 574 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:03,120 Speaker 1: be out of its natural place and time, and then 575 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:07,279 Speaker 1: we just slipped out of it. Well, this type of 576 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:14,920 Speaker 1: inexperience is what one researcher coined years ago, the odds factor. 577 00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:16,920 Speaker 1: Let me let me tell you a little bit about that. 578 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:23,160 Speaker 1: This phrase was coined by Jenny Randalls, and it's used 579 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:26,279 Speaker 1: by a lot of people who study weird things, but 580 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,720 Speaker 1: especially people who are into UFOs and they are studying 581 00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,839 Speaker 1: missing time and that kind of thing. So here's one 582 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:36,320 Speaker 1: description of it from Encyclopedia dot com. The Odds factor 583 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:42,879 Speaker 1: refers to the experience of being isolated or transported by 584 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:48,040 Speaker 1: the real world of everyday life into another environment which 585 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:52,120 Speaker 1: is quite similar to the real world, but changed enough 586 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:56,920 Speaker 1: to be noticeable and disturbing. Now, that is a great 587 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:58,920 Speaker 1: description of it, So I'm going to read that one 588 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:04,480 Speaker 1: more time. The odds factor, coined by Jenny Randalls, refers 589 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:08,680 Speaker 1: to the experience of being isolated or transported by the 590 00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:14,520 Speaker 1: real world of everyday life into another environment which is 591 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 1: quite similar to the real world, but changed enough to 592 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:22,280 Speaker 1: be noticeable and disturbing. And the thing is, I wouldn't 593 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:26,359 Speaker 1: always say disturbing, because I would say sometimes, I mean, 594 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,960 Speaker 1: it could be disturbing. Sometimes it could just be like 595 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:34,399 Speaker 1: confusing and disorienting. And so they go on to say. 596 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 1: In this Encyclopedia dot Com article, they give an example. 597 00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:42,279 Speaker 1: A folkloreist named Peter Rockwitz sounds I believe that's how 598 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,560 Speaker 1: you pronounce his name, said that he had a similar 599 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:49,040 Speaker 1: experience in nineteen eighty while working on his pH d dissertation, 600 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:53,280 Speaker 1: which happened to be on UFOs. While working in the library, 601 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,920 Speaker 1: he had a strange encounter with a man who approached 602 00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,879 Speaker 1: the table at which he worked and engaged him in conversation. 603 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 1: As they talked on the subject of his dissertation, the 604 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:10,600 Speaker 1: man suddenly shouted, accusingly, quote flying saucerers are the most 605 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,279 Speaker 1: important fact of the century, and you're not interested in 606 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:18,560 Speaker 1: quote And then the man left. So Peter there was 607 00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 1: relieved that the guy left and thought, well, that guy 608 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:26,920 Speaker 1: must have been disturbed. But when Peter tried to return 609 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,319 Speaker 1: to his work, he had a feeling that all was 610 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,960 Speaker 1: just not right and he just couldn't stay seated, so 611 00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:35,160 Speaker 1: he wandered around the library. He noticed that there were 612 00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:40,719 Speaker 1: no librarians staffing the desks and no patrons seemed to 613 00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:44,040 Speaker 1: be in the library, So, in a mild panic, he 614 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,480 Speaker 1: turned to his working space and tried to settle his mind, 615 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:52,080 Speaker 1: and an hour later, when he finally left the library, 616 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:56,040 Speaker 1: all seemed to have returned to normal. Do you see 617 00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:59,040 Speaker 1: why people have trouble talking about these kinds of experiences? 618 00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:05,560 Speaker 1: So let me pose a possible explanation to you. We 619 00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:09,440 Speaker 1: think of time as a linear thing because that's the 620 00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,520 Speaker 1: way we depict it for the sake of convenience, as 621 00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,680 Speaker 1: a model on a calendar. If you look at a calendar, 622 00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:22,600 Speaker 1: it goes at a straight line from left to right Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. 623 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:27,239 Speaker 1: Let's say we envision it as a strip like you 624 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,480 Speaker 1: cut that out Monday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. It's a 625 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,840 Speaker 1: strip of paper, isn't it, And we expect it to 626 00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:39,839 Speaker 1: always flow in a nice flat, straight line. But what 627 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:45,320 Speaker 1: if time, in fact doesn't conform to that particular model. 628 00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:50,040 Speaker 1: What if there's just one little twist once in a while, 629 00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:54,840 Speaker 1: or one little bend in that strip of paper? Have 630 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:58,640 Speaker 1: you ever heard of what's called a mobius strip? Now 631 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,160 Speaker 1: this is tricky to explain. I'll do my best. You 632 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:04,120 Speaker 1: can try this out right now on your own. Take 633 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:07,279 Speaker 1: a strip of paper as long as you can get it. 634 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:13,120 Speaker 1: And if you take a pen and you put it 635 00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,319 Speaker 1: at the top of that strip of paper, and you 636 00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:18,640 Speaker 1: never remove the tip of the pen from the paper, 637 00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:22,279 Speaker 1: and you draw a line as long as you can, 638 00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,160 Speaker 1: as long as you can, from the top to the bottom, 639 00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,680 Speaker 1: and until you're done, and it goes off the edge 640 00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:29,919 Speaker 1: of the paper. Will you now look, and you've only 641 00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:33,960 Speaker 1: drawn down one side of the paper. But if you 642 00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:39,520 Speaker 1: take an identical strip and you just put one twist 643 00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:43,680 Speaker 1: in it, and then tape the ends together so that 644 00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:48,640 Speaker 1: you have an eight and like an eight shaped figure, okay, 645 00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:52,520 Speaker 1: an eight shaped figure, and you do the same thing, 646 00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,359 Speaker 1: and now you put the pen on it and you 647 00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:59,360 Speaker 1: keep drawing that line straight down the strip of paper 648 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:03,439 Speaker 1: without removing it from the paper. Eventually you will come 649 00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:08,279 Speaker 1: back to the place where you started. But now if 650 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:15,040 Speaker 1: you detach the ends that you tape together and lay 651 00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:18,120 Speaker 1: it back out flat again, you will find that you 652 00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:22,920 Speaker 1: actually have now drawn down both sides of the paper. 653 00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,719 Speaker 1: You didn't even have to lift the pin. You seamlessly 654 00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:31,000 Speaker 1: traveled from one side of the paper back to the 655 00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:34,359 Speaker 1: other side. So, in other words, if you were an 656 00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:38,279 Speaker 1: aunt and you were just marching forward foot after four 657 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:43,000 Speaker 1: a foot in a straight line forward, there would come 658 00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:46,000 Speaker 1: a point when you would switch from one side of 659 00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,800 Speaker 1: that piece of paper to the other side without even 660 00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:54,040 Speaker 1: possibly realizing it, and then eventually switching back again to 661 00:44:54,160 --> 00:45:00,600 Speaker 1: where you were. So if time per se is a 662 00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:05,240 Speaker 1: straight line the way we envision it, but sometimes there's 663 00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:09,920 Speaker 1: just one little twist that you might be going about 664 00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:14,800 Speaker 1: your day second by second, minute by minute, hour by hour, 665 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:20,319 Speaker 1: and you might encounter one of these twists where you 666 00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:25,040 Speaker 1: slip onto the other side of the mobius strip where 667 00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:28,760 Speaker 1: things are similar because you're on the same strip of paper, 668 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:34,200 Speaker 1: but they're just a little different, and you don't even 669 00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:38,320 Speaker 1: realize what's happened until you switch back to the other side. 670 00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:42,879 Speaker 1: And it maybe at those points when you're transitioning from 671 00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:47,440 Speaker 1: one side to the other that everything seems deadly quiet 672 00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:52,640 Speaker 1: because for that moment of transition, you're neither here nor there. 673 00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:57,280 Speaker 1: You're not getting full sensory input input from either side. 674 00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:02,760 Speaker 1: You are right there between realms, and that is why 675 00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:10,759 Speaker 1: everything seems sort of still and strange and disconnected when 676 00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:16,520 Speaker 1: you are at the moment of transition. So perhaps experiencing 677 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:20,759 Speaker 1: the odds factor may often be the product of you 678 00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:28,920 Speaker 1: encountering a twist in space time. Now, is this something 679 00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:33,040 Speaker 1: that can just happen at any moment anywhere, like with 680 00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:38,240 Speaker 1: deja vu, seemingly with deja vu? Or are there certain 681 00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:42,560 Speaker 1: places on Earth that seemed to act more like portals 682 00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:46,920 Speaker 1: for this kind of thing, windows for this kind of thing. Well, 683 00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:48,600 Speaker 1: let's take a look at one of them when we 684 00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:50,600 Speaker 1: come back from the break. I want to play for 685 00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:57,200 Speaker 1: you some audio captured using parasite matics two point oh 686 00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:01,359 Speaker 1: of Stone Hinge in England. Now, Stonehenge. If you look 687 00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,720 Speaker 1: at it from above, it even looks like a big portal. Okay, 688 00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:09,000 Speaker 1: it looks like a tunnel, concentric circles leading somewhere else. 689 00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:11,880 Speaker 1: I want to play this audio for you. You know, 690 00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:15,040 Speaker 1: I love doing this and let's see if you get 691 00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:19,040 Speaker 1: anything from it. That when we come back and I 692 00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:22,279 Speaker 1: have another story for you as well. Be sure to 693 00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:26,800 Speaker 1: follow me on Twitter at Joshua P. Warren at Joshua P. Warren. 694 00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:32,160 Speaker 1: You're listening to Strange Things on the I Heart Media 695 00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:36,520 Speaker 1: and Coast to Coast a M Paranormal Podcast Network. I 696 00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:46,520 Speaker 1: will be right back with age. 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Go now to 706 00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:28,160 Speaker 1: Coast to Coast a M dot com for details. You're 707 00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,719 Speaker 1: listening to the new I Heart Radio and Coast to 708 00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:34,640 Speaker 1: Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Now let's get back to 709 00:48:34,719 --> 00:49:08,799 Speaker 1: Strange Things with Joshua P. Warren and welcome to the 710 00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:13,479 Speaker 1: final segment of this Strange Things on the I Heart 711 00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:17,560 Speaker 1: Media and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal podcast Network. I 712 00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:22,200 Speaker 1: am your host, Joshua Pete Warren, and before I played 713 00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:26,720 Speaker 1: this audio from Stone Hinge, what do you think about 714 00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:33,360 Speaker 1: that the odds factor? And is it possible that you 715 00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:41,799 Speaker 1: right now might actually exist simultaneously with a version of 716 00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:48,120 Speaker 1: yourself in another one of these timelines I'm talking about 717 00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:51,759 Speaker 1: some kind of adoppel ganger experience. Are there two of 718 00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:55,680 Speaker 1: you out there having slightly different existences right now? Three 719 00:49:55,680 --> 00:50:00,080 Speaker 1: of you, four of you, a million of you. I 720 00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,560 Speaker 1: want to tell you this because this is again one 721 00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:05,279 Speaker 1: of those things that you don't talk about it every day, 722 00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:08,920 Speaker 1: but that's what this show is for. When I was, 723 00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,840 Speaker 1: you know, in my late teens, there was this photography 724 00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:15,719 Speaker 1: shop in the town where I grew up, and I 725 00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:19,520 Speaker 1: would go there often to get special photographs developed. I 726 00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:22,240 Speaker 1: used to take pictures with like medium format and large 727 00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:27,040 Speaker 1: format cameras. I just always loved film and filmmaking, and 728 00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,399 Speaker 1: frequently I would walk in to this shop and there 729 00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:34,320 Speaker 1: was this delightful guy there who would always say, Hey, Carrie, 730 00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:37,959 Speaker 1: welcome back, you know, and I at first I wasn't 731 00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:39,520 Speaker 1: sure what he was saying because you know, my name 732 00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:43,319 Speaker 1: is Joshua Warren. But every time I would go in there, 733 00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:46,320 Speaker 1: he'd say, Hey, Carrie, how you doing. And so finally, 734 00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,799 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess I should have said something early on, 735 00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:52,400 Speaker 1: but it was just so awkward. One day I said, 736 00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:56,919 Speaker 1: you know, um, my name is Joshua. I think you're 737 00:50:56,960 --> 00:51:00,279 Speaker 1: confusing me with somebody else. And he just left and 738 00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:02,400 Speaker 1: blows it off, and I said, no, seriously, you know, 739 00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:06,200 Speaker 1: my name is Joshua. And when he realized that I 740 00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,680 Speaker 1: was not this person named Carrie who had been coming 741 00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:12,000 Speaker 1: in there getting stuff developed, it just astounded the guy. 742 00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:18,040 Speaker 1: And so and after that he never treated me quite 743 00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:19,720 Speaker 1: the same. It was like he was a little thrown 744 00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,919 Speaker 1: when I would walk in a few years after that, 745 00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:28,440 Speaker 1: I had a friend who was working with me on 746 00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:32,480 Speaker 1: a new invention. It was a fishing invention, you know, 747 00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:36,239 Speaker 1: like typically going out to catch fish. And one day 748 00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,680 Speaker 1: he called me up and he was cussing, and he 749 00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,480 Speaker 1: was angry because he said that he had talked to 750 00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:47,120 Speaker 1: some company that was interested in uh and getting this invention. 751 00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:49,879 Speaker 1: And the person at the company claimed that I had 752 00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:57,239 Speaker 1: called them and started arranging a deal, which was absolutely insanity. 753 00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:01,000 Speaker 1: That never ever happened, and and he thought that I 754 00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:04,759 Speaker 1: had done this. It actually ended our friendship. Uh it, 755 00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:06,840 Speaker 1: it took me off so badly. And but you know, 756 00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,200 Speaker 1: you can't have stuff like that happened and not question 757 00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:11,640 Speaker 1: your sanity for a minute and say, am my schizophrenic? 758 00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:15,280 Speaker 1: Like you know, am I am? I doing stuff sometimes 759 00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:18,000 Speaker 1: that that I'm not aware of. You know that I'm 760 00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:22,200 Speaker 1: doing well. Thank goodness, that was all remedied for me. 761 00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:24,880 Speaker 1: And I can tell you with one assurance, I am 762 00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:28,279 Speaker 1: not schizophrenic because of another extreme example of this that 763 00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:32,279 Speaker 1: happened when I started traveling to Puerto Rico. You know, 764 00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:35,320 Speaker 1: I eventually ended up living in Puerto Rico studying activity 765 00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:39,160 Speaker 1: in the Bermuda Triangle. When I first went to Puerto Rico, 766 00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:42,600 Speaker 1: this was a long time ago. Um I realized that 767 00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:46,319 Speaker 1: they didn't have much at all in the way of 768 00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:51,640 Speaker 1: souvenirs regarding the chupa cabra, and the chupa cabra originated 769 00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:54,680 Speaker 1: in Puerto Rico, and I saw that as a business opportunity. 770 00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:58,319 Speaker 1: So I had a bunch of T shirts made with 771 00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:02,160 Speaker 1: a chupacabra on them, and then I flew to Puerto 772 00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:07,080 Speaker 1: Rico by myself and I hooked up with a professional 773 00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:10,120 Speaker 1: guide and he took me in his van. He said, 774 00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:12,200 Speaker 1: I'm going to drive you to all these places around 775 00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:14,640 Speaker 1: Puerto Rico where you can go in and pitch your 776 00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:18,440 Speaker 1: T shirt. I said great. So he started driving me 777 00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:22,000 Speaker 1: to all these places I'd never been to before, and 778 00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:25,640 Speaker 1: I just I've I've flown in the day before. So 779 00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:29,120 Speaker 1: he drove me to this little gift shop up in 780 00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:32,319 Speaker 1: the mountains near the al Junque rain forest, and I 781 00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:37,160 Speaker 1: went inside and everybody who worked there was just oh, 782 00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:39,959 Speaker 1: great to see you again. And I was like, Okay, 783 00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:41,799 Speaker 1: I'm not sure what they're talking about because I've never 784 00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:44,080 Speaker 1: been there, but I figured, if this is an asset 785 00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:47,520 Speaker 1: for me making a T shirt deal, fine, So I 786 00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:50,160 Speaker 1: started talking about, you know, the T shirts and showing 787 00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:53,839 Speaker 1: them off and everything, and um, they kept saying things 788 00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:56,560 Speaker 1: to indicate like, yeah, we've been thinking about it, uh 789 00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:58,719 Speaker 1: for for a few days now, and we'd go we'd 790 00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:00,880 Speaker 1: like to go ahead and place an order. And finally 791 00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:02,919 Speaker 1: I just started feeling like this is too bizarre, and 792 00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:05,960 Speaker 1: I said, you know, I I've never been here before. 793 00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:09,440 Speaker 1: And and the people who worked there, and it was 794 00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:12,320 Speaker 1: a family that owned the place, they all they laughed 795 00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:16,640 Speaker 1: like they thought I was joking, and I said, no, no, seriously, 796 00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:19,040 Speaker 1: I've never I've never been here to this shop. This 797 00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:21,960 Speaker 1: is the first time ever. And when they realized I 798 00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:25,680 Speaker 1: was serious, they said, well, you were here three days 799 00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:30,759 Speaker 1: ago with your Chupa Cobra T shirts and we told 800 00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:34,719 Speaker 1: you we'd think about it. And that's when I got 801 00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:36,919 Speaker 1: that cold chill that went down my spine. I said, 802 00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:42,960 Speaker 1: I flew in yesterday. You know. I've been in North 803 00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:46,000 Speaker 1: Carolina for the past you know, six months or whatever. 804 00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:48,839 Speaker 1: I've never been here before. I don't even know where 805 00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:52,800 Speaker 1: I am. Manuel, my guide, he drove me here today, 806 00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:55,080 Speaker 1: you know. And man Well says, yeah, that's right. He 807 00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:58,160 Speaker 1: came in from the airport yesterday, you know. And I 808 00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:00,160 Speaker 1: tell you when I told him that, they looked like 809 00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:05,160 Speaker 1: they've seen a ghost. So I have proof that sometimes 810 00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:08,000 Speaker 1: people say yeah. And I let me tell you, I 811 00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,000 Speaker 1: stand out like a sore thumb in Puerto Rico. I'm 812 00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:13,240 Speaker 1: a tall guy and I look, you know, like Frosty 813 00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:16,680 Speaker 1: too snowman. I'm wearing a big, broad brimmed hat and 814 00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:19,560 Speaker 1: I walk in there with an armload of Chupa Copper 815 00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:22,400 Speaker 1: T shirts that I created that I hired an artist 816 00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:26,000 Speaker 1: to produce for me. There's there's no other explanation for 817 00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:31,400 Speaker 1: this than there's some version of myself, some ghost of 818 00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:35,200 Speaker 1: myself from a duplicate timeline or whatever, came in there 819 00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:38,879 Speaker 1: and did this pitch days before. I know that's hard 820 00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:43,319 Speaker 1: to believe. I know that's freaky, but again, that's in 821 00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:46,799 Speaker 1: the Bermuda Triangle. It's a place renowned for this. It's 822 00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:50,960 Speaker 1: like a portal Brown Mountain. It's like a portal, you know. 823 00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:55,080 Speaker 1: And so I figured, why not play some audio for 824 00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:58,399 Speaker 1: you that I extracted using parasite maatics two point oh 825 00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:01,719 Speaker 1: and some other techniques to get some audio from a 826 00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:04,040 Speaker 1: place that a lot of people also believe is a 827 00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:07,960 Speaker 1: famous portal. I'm talking about Stonehenge in England. You know. 828 00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:09,799 Speaker 1: I like to play audio for you when I can. 829 00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:14,439 Speaker 1: Now here are some brief facts about Stonehenge from Wikipedia. 830 00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:18,239 Speaker 1: It is a prehistoric monument, uh and it says it 831 00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:21,920 Speaker 1: consists of a ring of standing stones, each about thirteen 832 00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:26,120 Speaker 1: feet high and seven feet wide. That's four meters high 833 00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:30,360 Speaker 1: and two point one meters wide, around twenty five tons. 834 00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:34,600 Speaker 1: The stones are set within earthworks in the middle of 835 00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:39,640 Speaker 1: the most dense complex of Neolithic and Bronze Age monuments 836 00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:44,000 Speaker 1: in England. People have been talking about going there and 837 00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:50,399 Speaker 1: having these types of oz um experiences oz factor experiences 838 00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:54,080 Speaker 1: for years. It goes on to say Stonehenge was produced 839 00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:58,279 Speaker 1: by a culture that left no written records, and it 840 00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:01,239 Speaker 1: says there is little or no direct evidence revealing the 841 00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:08,160 Speaker 1: construction techniques used by the Stonehenge builders. Proposed functions include 842 00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:13,719 Speaker 1: an astronomical observatory or a religious site. One scientist suggested 843 00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:17,040 Speaker 1: this was a place of healing, similar to Lord Is. 844 00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:20,440 Speaker 1: They argue this accounts for the high number of burials 845 00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:24,520 Speaker 1: in the area and for the evidence of trauma deformity 846 00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:28,080 Speaker 1: in some of the graves. On the other hand, another 847 00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:32,440 Speaker 1: scientist here says that he believes it functioned as part 848 00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:38,120 Speaker 1: of a ritual passage from life to deaths to celebrate 849 00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:42,040 Speaker 1: ancestors and the recently deceased. Again, we're talking about the 850 00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:46,040 Speaker 1: idea of portals. I don't know. I don't know. So 851 00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:49,919 Speaker 1: I took Stonehenge. I passed it through my parasitematics two 852 00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:52,840 Speaker 1: point oh system. And you can learn about that if 853 00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:55,840 Speaker 1: you go to Joshua pe Warren dot com and scroll 854 00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:59,120 Speaker 1: down to the section on the homepage about Parasymatics and 855 00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:02,600 Speaker 1: click the yellowly that's got more info. I took an 856 00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:08,480 Speaker 1: overhead picture of these rings and then I played them. 857 00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:12,040 Speaker 1: Excuse me, I processed them to get a sound from 858 00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:14,680 Speaker 1: them using my system, and I haven't revealed all the 859 00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:18,320 Speaker 1: details of how I do this, but there's a lot 860 00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:22,240 Speaker 1: of information that's there on the page. So give this 861 00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:25,720 Speaker 1: a listen. It's about twenty seconds. See if this means 862 00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:53,400 Speaker 1: anything to you, the sound I got from stone Hinge. Okay, 863 00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:56,920 Speaker 1: so now I'm going to play that for you one 864 00:58:57,320 --> 00:59:00,440 Speaker 1: more time twenty seconds. Close your eyes if you can 865 00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:25,240 Speaker 1: listen to this again. All right, So look, what does 866 00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:28,120 Speaker 1: that mean? I don't I don't know. I mean I 867 00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:32,000 Speaker 1: always hate to play this stuff for you and suggest 868 00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:35,760 Speaker 1: something to you. But maybe you've got a feeling from that. 869 00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:38,800 Speaker 1: Maybe you got a message what I'm doing because I'm 870 00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:41,760 Speaker 1: treating a lot of these places like grooves on a record, 871 00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:44,880 Speaker 1: and I play that record through the parasim Matics two 872 00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:48,880 Speaker 1: point oh system, and I'm going to continue playing different 873 00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:52,760 Speaker 1: famous sites, so to speak for you on this podcast, 874 00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:54,720 Speaker 1: And if you're the type of person who likes to 875 00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:58,320 Speaker 1: play around with audio, feel free to let me know 876 00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:01,960 Speaker 1: what you come up with, what you extract. I mean, 877 01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:05,760 Speaker 1: that's why I do all this. And you know, I've 878 01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:10,400 Speaker 1: got some pretty exciting little special things on the agenda 879 01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:14,240 Speaker 1: to share with you and the very near future, using 880 01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:18,400 Speaker 1: parasite matics two point oh and other methods that I'm 881 01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:22,600 Speaker 1: going to be working on to perfect that. Sometimes these 882 01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:26,000 Speaker 1: things just speak to people. They literally hear a message, 883 01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:29,360 Speaker 1: They literally have some kind of a voice that comes forth, 884 01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:32,439 Speaker 1: And if that happens to you in particular, I'd love 885 01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:36,200 Speaker 1: to know about it as well. Um. You know, one 886 01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:39,880 Speaker 1: of the interesting things about technology we have nowadays is 887 01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:42,960 Speaker 1: you can take an image of something and you can 888 01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:49,560 Speaker 1: interpret it through many different levels of perceptive technology. And 889 01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:52,240 Speaker 1: maybe we can come up with a vibration that will 890 01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:55,840 Speaker 1: mean something special to somebody out there and give us 891 01:00:55,880 --> 01:01:00,480 Speaker 1: some kind of insight. Hey, here's a quick story for 892 01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:05,080 Speaker 1: you from Ripley's Believe it or Not Strange Coincidences. Mel 893 01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:10,080 Speaker 1: Cohen of Gravois Mills, Missouri, lost a gold Missusa, a 894 01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:15,240 Speaker 1: religious symbol, while cleaning fish on his dock and found 895 01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:21,240 Speaker 1: it five months later inside a bass he called while trolling. 896 01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:28,520 Speaker 1: Things like that make you wonder about coincidences, right, Well, 897 01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:31,920 Speaker 1: I believe that, unfortunately, is going to have to do 898 01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:35,240 Speaker 1: it for this particular edition of the program. Again, this 899 01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:39,120 Speaker 1: is important. Follow me on Twitter at Joshua pe Warren 900 01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:43,400 Speaker 1: and sign up for my free e newsletter at Joshua 901 01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:47,360 Speaker 1: pe warren dot com. 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See 910 01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:19,640 Speaker 1: things in the Curiosity Shop you won't find anywhere else. 911 01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:23,680 Speaker 1: There's no period after the p in Joshua p Warren 912 01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:27,280 Speaker 1: dot com. Well listen, I have a fun one lined 913 01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:30,520 Speaker 1: up for you next time, I promise, so please share 914 01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:33,400 Speaker 1: this podcast with all of your friends. Tell them to 915 01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:36,960 Speaker 1: join us. I hope you all subscribe, and remember, no 916 01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:42,200 Speaker 1: matter what happens, adhere to the Golden rule. If you 917 01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:46,240 Speaker 1: do that, if you do that, you'll be amazed at hell, 918 01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:50,840 Speaker 1: well things will go in your life. Uh. It's funny 919 01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:54,280 Speaker 1: to me how that so many of these rules and 920 01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:57,600 Speaker 1: somebody of these problems that we face could all be 921 01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:03,040 Speaker 1: solved if we just for embered that one condensation, the 922 01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:07,360 Speaker 1: golden rule. Hey, thank you for listening, Thank you for 923 01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:10,560 Speaker 1: your interest in support, Thank you for staying curious. I 924 01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:14,240 Speaker 1: will talk to you again soon. You've been listening to 925 01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:19,040 Speaker 1: Strange Things on the I Heart Media and Coast to Coast, 926 01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:42,840 Speaker 1: a AM paranormal podcast network. 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