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Speaker 1: Gail, let's jump right into it.
Speaker 2: The Sixers beat the The Sixers beat the Timberwolves one
Speaker 2: twenty seven, one thirteen. Joel Embiid fifty one points, twelve rebounds,
Speaker 2: Twelfth consecutive game with at least thirty points and twelve
Speaker 2: plus or more boards ten of plus more boards. First
Speaker 2: time since someone has done that since Kareem abduing Jabbar
Speaker 2: seventy one seventy two. So that's fifty years ago. Tyres
Speaker 2: Maxley also had thirty five points. I'm looking at Joel Embiid.
Speaker 2: I think you're looking at Joely Embiid right now. If
Speaker 2: they voted for the MVP. I think he's winning that
Speaker 2: war unanimous. What'd you take away from the game and
Speaker 2: what'd you like about him? Be hands down? I mean
Speaker 2: he's playing.
Speaker 1: Listen, he's playing like they're trying to provoke his visa
Speaker 1: right now. Game yeah, right? The last what twelve thirteen games,
Speaker 1: he's been averaging about thirty eight points a game, which yees,
Speaker 1: because you know this is that this is that level
Speaker 1: that the super superstars get to you. I think we
Speaker 1: all questioned his MVP candidate last year and win. I
Speaker 1: think that's what's going on. And I think he's real
Speaker 1: pissed off about that, and he's, yes, he is.
Speaker 2: I think what he's done, what he's done thus far.
Speaker 2: He says, oh, y'all gave me this because y'all didn't
Speaker 2: think Jokic was worthy of being a three time MVP,
Speaker 2: because no one had done that since Larry Bird eighty four,
Speaker 2: eighty five, eighty six. So I'm gonna show you that
Speaker 2: last year wasn't a mistake. So I'm gonna come out.
Speaker 2: You look, you like my numbers last year. You're gonna
Speaker 2: love bees this year because I'm gonna put it on you.
Speaker 2: And he's dominating. I mean, but it's so hard Gil.
Speaker 1: When he's shooting seventeen eighteen free throws a game and
Speaker 1: he's making sixteen seventeen of those, he's hard to keep.
Speaker 1: He's gonna get twenty five if he only shoots two
Speaker 1: free throws. Now you're putting him in the teams. How
Speaker 1: do you stop him from getting fifty?
Speaker 2: And then you get Tyre's MAXI who's saying, you know what,
Speaker 2: y'all didn't want to give me a little contract last summer.
Speaker 1: Hum, okay, I'm gonna make you give it to me now.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean you have a problem on your hand.
Speaker 1: You have a problem. I mean, when you have a
Speaker 1: big guy that can shoot free throws, you get to
Speaker 1: go to them at the end of the game. You
Speaker 1: don't necessarily need yet guard anymore. Like you know, with
Speaker 1: someone like Shaq, you know you need a Kobe because
Speaker 1: they'll foul you and you couldn't make you free throws.
Speaker 1: But you know with embad he makes free throws. So
Speaker 1: the fact that you can go to him and he
Speaker 1: can be a go to guy the last five minutes
Speaker 1: just makes it impossible for you to stop him individually.
Speaker 1: And then when you add a dynamic guard like Maxi,
Speaker 1: who can get to wherever he needs to get to
Speaker 1: and fast first, it makes them a real dynamic duo.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but when you look at Joel Embiid, he has
Speaker 2: no offensive weakness. He can shoot the three, he can
Speaker 2: put the ball on the floor, he can finish obviously,
Speaker 2: he can play with his back to the basket, and
Speaker 2: as you mentioned, if you file him, he's going to
Speaker 2: the free throw line and he's gonna make somewhere between
Speaker 2: eighty five and ninety percent of those free throws. So
Speaker 2: you look up at the end of the night and
Speaker 2: it's not like he's shooting thirty shots, shooting twenty twenty
Speaker 2: five shots a night, and he's getting forty fifty points
Speaker 2: and he's given you the rebounds and he's given you
Speaker 2: five or six assists. If so, when you have a
Speaker 2: big man that can dominate eight and he's not a
Speaker 2: slouch on the defensive, being that can play both ends
Speaker 2: of the court, and he can play a multitude of waves.
Speaker 2: He can play outside, and I love the fact that
Speaker 2: he's not selling Gil because I thought a couple of
Speaker 2: years ago he settled too much. He gotten comfortable, like, Man,
Speaker 2: I can shoot threes. I want to be Dirk. I
Speaker 2: wanted none of them. Bro, you can shoot that shot,
Speaker 2: But why would you when you can go down in
Speaker 2: the box and get an end one which is the
Speaker 2: same thing and a higher percentage of you making the shot.
Speaker 1: But I think he's been phenomenal, and I want to
Speaker 1: know what you think about this.
Speaker 2: I think the best thing that happened was James Harden
Speaker 2: wanted out because they gave ty Reeves Maxi shots and
Speaker 2: it gave them an opportunity to see exactly what they
Speaker 2: had on their hands.
Speaker 1: We can say that because we get to see Maxie
Speaker 1: Moore Embiid probably got in better conditions. He's better equipped
Speaker 1: to handle the heavy load. You would have wanted to
Speaker 1: see what happened if you know James Harden stayed and
Speaker 1: we get the James Harden today. That's unselfish, right. I
Speaker 1: think he still had that selfishness in them where he
Speaker 1: was still mad that he had to really digress his
Speaker 1: game to Phybid, Right, so now he's accepted that role.
Speaker 1: If he would accepted it last year, they would have
Speaker 1: been a lot better. Yes, the biggest regret Philly's gonna
Speaker 1: always have is letting Jimmy Butler go. If you Jimmy
Speaker 1: Butler that's been on a tear for the last three
Speaker 1: years with the EMBD, this year or last year, they
Speaker 1: could have been champs. Do you think that that would
Speaker 1: have been a betefit Maxi, Jimmy Butler, EMBIID compared to EMBIID,
Speaker 1: Harden and Maxley Or would you have liked to see
Speaker 1: EMBIID hardened Butler as long as you have Butler on
Speaker 1: a team. I like Butler with MAXI and embid. Uh.
Speaker 1: You know, with Butler he holds, he holds everyone to
Speaker 1: a winning standard. And yes, the EMBID we see today
Speaker 1: we would have seen two years ago because he would
Speaker 1: have demanded it. And I think, you know, sometimes Jolan
Speaker 1: b loves that real challenge, and I think we need
Speaker 1: to give credit to We need to give credit to
Speaker 1: Patrick Beverly. When Patrick Beverley started making him do line
Speaker 1: drills randomly, averaging thirty eight Since then, no one's talked
Speaker 1: about going after practice, running up and down getting that
Speaker 1: extra shape, getting in extra shape, getting in peak shape,
Speaker 1: doing the extra things to get to that extra level.
Speaker 1: And that's what Jimmy Butler brung out of him. So
Speaker 1: it's like we wish we were like, man, this would
Speaker 1: have been a great combo today.
Speaker 2: Do you believe dires Maxie could have could have become
Speaker 2: what he is now with James Harden.
Speaker 1: No, because I think he would have been. He would
Speaker 1: have been still reluctant, still reluctant, still hesitant to really
Speaker 1: go out and try to be that real good second option. Right.
Speaker 1: You know, it's that respect factor that sometimes as players
Speaker 1: we have, and you know, MAXI he's gonna respect the
Speaker 1: guy he looked up to, right, you know, you're talking
Speaker 1: about the MVP James, that James that went on a
Speaker 1: thirty point tear and he's that forty point tiars something
Speaker 1: we've never hasn't seen since the right he would he
Speaker 1: would have deferred to them. So the fact that he's
Speaker 1: gone and he really gets to look around and say,
Speaker 1: I'm that dude now, right. You know I can shoot
Speaker 1: twenty five shots, I can shoot eighteen and nineteen and
Speaker 1: don't have to look sideways and see a guy do.
Speaker 2: This right right, and when you look at it and
Speaker 2: you said something very interesting, and I took note of this,
Speaker 2: and I remember you said James Harden had to give
Speaker 2: up and digress some of his game in order to
Speaker 2: fit with Joel andb. It's almost like Kobe. Kobe ain't
Speaker 2: averaging thirty five with Shaq. Kobe ain't getting eighty one
Speaker 2: with Shaq. Kobe ain't scoring sixty three. He's scoring sixty
Speaker 2: and three quarters with Shaq, and so he I mean,
Speaker 2: he gave up a lot of his game to fit
Speaker 2: under Shaq, even though he was tremendous.
Speaker 1: But we saw one Shaq left, although it took him
Speaker 1: a couple of years before they got the pieces around
Speaker 1: him if for him to win, we saw what he
Speaker 1: was without Shaq. I believe he could have been that
Speaker 1: year before. I just don't know if he could do
Speaker 1: that with Shaq, because Shaq, you got to give Shack
Speaker 1: the ball. You got him. And that was the biggest
Speaker 1: fight here in Los Angeles, right where Kobe felt that
Speaker 1: he turned into the guy at the end of the game.
Speaker 1: But as long as there's Shaquille O'Neil on the floor,
Speaker 1: that's who we have to go through and I think
Speaker 1: when it was time for Kobe said this is my city.
Speaker 1: As long as Shaq and Phil was there, it wasn't.
Speaker 1: And that's when he said. And then that's when he
Speaker 1: went and said, hey, and see the me of them.
Speaker 1: It's me of them because he wanted to show the
Speaker 1: world that this is who I am without him, I
Speaker 1: need to show y'all that I'm a I'm a demon.
Speaker 1: And those two to three years he had without Shaq
Speaker 1: to show the world that thirty five, I'm unstoppable. That's
Speaker 1: what he needed to prove that he's on that level
Speaker 1: of the Michael Jordans.
Speaker 2: And we saw it because when Shaq would miss games,
Speaker 2: we would see some of these virtuo souls from Kobe.
Speaker 2: So it gave it gave the world an opportunity. But
Speaker 2: then like and I'm like, no, he can't be that
Speaker 2: with Shaq. Shaq is too commanding, he's too dominant, He's
Speaker 2: too much of a force that demands the basketball. But
Speaker 2: for him to suppress, because can you imagine what his
Speaker 2: numbers would have been. Now, I'm not saying he would
Speaker 2: have won titles, but I'm not so sure that that's
Speaker 2: he might have got. He'd have had a lot more
Speaker 2: points than what he got. What he had when he
Speaker 2: retire facts.
Speaker 1: I mean, by the time Kobe hit twenty one, he
Speaker 1: was already averaging twenty points twenty seven points a game.
Speaker 1: So but that's Shakill O'Neill in his prime too. So
Speaker 1: you know, so if you take shack off that that
Speaker 1: them teams. When Kobe was getting into his own early
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one nineteen, he would have Luca numbers. Yes,
Speaker 1: it would have been it would have been selfish basketball,
Speaker 1: and he would have been trying to get MVP scoring titles.
Speaker 1: He would have probably had three or four of them.
Speaker 1: But you know, by the time he got to it,
Speaker 1: he was already a winner. And it's like, all right,
Speaker 1: I got it out of my system.
Speaker 2: Now let's let's win a little right, right, Yeah, Because
Speaker 2: at that point in time, Okay, I got three titles.
Speaker 2: I needed an MVP, I need a scoring title. Okay,
Speaker 2: now we can have conversations about all this other stuff
Speaker 2: because I've been an All All NBA defensive player, I've
Speaker 2: been an All NBA player, I've won All Star Games, MVP.
Speaker 2: So now once he got those other things, now he
Speaker 2: started focusing again on winning a title, winning finals MVP
Speaker 2: to thrust him because his game. You know, you had
Speaker 2: to take note of his game, because the footwork, the
Speaker 2: shot making, the ability to finish at the rim. You're
Speaker 2: filing me going to the free throw line. He's gonna
Speaker 2: make eighty five percent of his shots. He was that spectacular.
Speaker 2: But once he got okay, I want him MVP, I
Speaker 2: want a scoring title, let me refocus. That was the
Speaker 2: same thing that Phil had to do with Mike when
Speaker 2: he first got with Mike.
Speaker 1: Mike, Yeah, Mike, you can. You can do all this,
Speaker 1: you can.
Speaker 2: Get sixty and fifty average fifty, but we can't win
Speaker 2: until you trust somebody.
Speaker 1: That is the big That is the biggest That is
Speaker 1: the biggest thing. And especially basketball trusting now when yeah, trusting,
Speaker 1: understand that everything goes into it. How you carry yourself right,
Speaker 1: how you carry yourself on the bus, how you walk
Speaker 1: into the locker room, how you prepare, how you watch film.
Speaker 1: We watch it all, so we don't like your process
Speaker 1: if we don't like your habits. Right, if we're playing
Speaker 1: the Lakers and I got shocking Kobe, right, and you
Speaker 1: went to the club that night and you coming in
Speaker 1: and smelling like fucking Hennessy and you I'm not getting
Speaker 1: you the ball, yo.
Speaker 2: That trust that that trust is everything, Gil because deep
Speaker 2: down there I need to know you put as much
Speaker 2: effort into this as I need. Because if I don't believe,
Speaker 2: if if it's hard for me to trust you when
Speaker 2: I if I don't think you worked as hard as
Speaker 2: I need, so I need And so that was the
Speaker 2: hardest thing for Kobe. Kobe's like Kobe, and the thing is,
Speaker 2: we're gonna talk about this a little later. Kobe was like, brob,
Speaker 2: why am I gonna pass you bump the ball? You
Speaker 2: show up late, you leave early, you don't study, you
Speaker 2: hang out, and then you want me to pass you
Speaker 2: the ball. Now, if you want it, you will get
Speaker 2: a rebound and put it back and I'm gonna be
Speaker 2: clapping for you to throw it back out to be
Speaker 2: a libits.
Speaker 1: You to know, Hey, that's that was that whole selfish thing, right.
Speaker 1: Everyone's calling cold selfish, right, and he's calling he's calling
Speaker 1: everybody elself and you should be selfish. You you should
Speaker 1: be considered selfish if you did right, if you didn't
Speaker 1: work out all day, went to the club and asking
Speaker 1: for the ball, now that's selfish. Knowing that you're not
Speaker 1: even prepared to play this game today.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, you should have been selfish and told your friends, now,
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna be able to hang out with you
Speaker 2: to day, and you should have told you should have
Speaker 2: been selfish, just said nah, I'm gonna go get some
Speaker 2: extra jobs, saying I'm gonna get some condition.
Speaker 1: Again, that's what it requires to be great, and there's
Speaker 1: a reason. That's why. If you notice, average people hate
Speaker 1: people with greatness, and great people hate people that's average.
Speaker 1: So guess what you need if you want to be average.
Speaker 1: Average people get along just great. Great people get along
Speaker 1: just great. You notice that, you know that that's out
Speaker 1: what it is.
Speaker 2: That's why so hard to win as a team because everybody,
Speaker 2: even the highest dollar guy Bertha, the lowest dollar guy,
Speaker 2: got to have the same goal in mind or it's
Speaker 2: not gonna go.
Speaker 1: No, you can't because you can't understand the process. Right.
Speaker 1: Sometimes the superstar he can't relate to everyone else. Right,
Speaker 1: he can't relate because his brain is processing at a
Speaker 1: different frequency. So if he's absolutely related verbally, they don't
Speaker 1: like him. It's not like he's doing something wrong, he
Speaker 1: just doesn't know how to verbalize, and a lot of
Speaker 1: superstars don't know how to verbalize their greatness to everybody
Speaker 1: else to make them jump up another frequency, right, you know,
Speaker 1: like with Jordan's right right, He didn't like if you
Speaker 1: looked at if you look at the dock. He didn't
Speaker 1: know how to talk to them, only only Dinnis and
Speaker 1: Scotty right, and Scotty had to relate the message to
Speaker 1: the rest of it. That's why Shield was like he
Speaker 1: didn't have to. He didn't coach Jordan. He had to
Speaker 1: coach everyone else to deal with Jordan how to accept Jordan,
Speaker 1: because it's hard.
Speaker 2: A lot of times you're so great and everything's come
Speaker 2: so easy, you wonder why they can't do it well.
Speaker 2: If they could do what you do, they would be
Speaker 2: great and you'd have.
Speaker 1: A team full of great players.
Speaker 2: That's the hardest thing to get somebody great to understand
Speaker 2: in any field because they're looking.
Speaker 1: Bro, why can't you get that? Why can't you do that?
Speaker 1: Is so easy? The test is only easy if you
Speaker 1: know the answers.
Speaker 2: A sport, A given sport is only easy because you
Speaker 2: make it look it's not easy. Joel Embiid is the
Speaker 2: NBA's longest such Street Street. He has twelve consecutive games
Speaker 2: with at least thirty points and ten or more rebounds
Speaker 2: since Kareem had the Street of sixteenth straight games in
Speaker 2: nineteen seven, teventy one, nineteen seventy two.
Speaker 1: So that's fifty years what joelingbre doing.
Speaker 2: So that just goes to show you if you do
Speaker 2: something that only a handful of guys have ever been
Speaker 2: able to do for this length of time and it
Speaker 2: hadn't been done in fifty years. Yeah, you should feel
Speaker 2: real proud of yourself. Let's go on to the next game.
Speaker 2: Agail Bulls beat the Lakers one twenty four, one oh eight.
Speaker 2: The Bulls shoot fifty four point five percent, so we'll
Speaker 2: go ahead and say fifty five percent from the floor.
Speaker 1: Eight players scoring double figures.
Speaker 2: Lebron had twenty five, ten and nine AD nineteen and fourteen.
Speaker 2: The Lakers have dropped four or five since winning the
Speaker 2: end season tournament. What what's going on? I know what's
Speaker 2: going on. They know they asked us about to be traded.
Speaker 2: That's what's going on. Them bags it is packed, That's
Speaker 2: what's going on.
Speaker 1: Huh Hey, when the rumbos started, you start hearing the ministry, Yeah,
Speaker 1: were about to make a trade for exact lavina, We're
Speaker 1: about to make a trade. You start losing your passion shit,
Speaker 1: you know, for for for for playing hard. I look
Speaker 1: at D'Angelo Russell right before the end season tournament. Oh
Speaker 1: he was Oh he was d low. Now now he
Speaker 1: di Angelo Russell right now? Yeah, we go here, get
Speaker 1: rid of you, my man. I mean, I mean the
Speaker 1: way he played tonight, I thought it was the Angelo
Speaker 1: the singer brow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that bad. I'm like, comeo, d Lo just hit
Speaker 2: one shot. I mean he didn't, he didn't get it going.
Speaker 2: Derek Fisher said he just thinks the.
Speaker 1: Turn the tournament in season for the Lakers taking their
Speaker 1: foot off the gas. I think there's a reason why
Speaker 1: they wait till the end of the year. Uh.
Speaker 2: He said, he thinks the tournament is the reason the
Speaker 2: Lakers taking their foot off the gas. I think there's
Speaker 2: a reason why you wait until the end of the
Speaker 2: year to celebrate the championship. So he feels like they
Speaker 2: exhale they won the n season tournament. They see the
Speaker 2: batters like, now, bro, you got fifty five games to
Speaker 2: play what you you exhale it?
Speaker 1: That's that's that's easy to say. But it's human nature, man. Right,
Speaker 1: we win the n season tournament and we're still talking
Speaker 1: about trading. January fifteenth, right is the last day we're
Speaker 1: still talking about trading. And when you're talking about Russell Ruie, right,
Speaker 1: maybe right, as a player, you start looking around like, man,
Speaker 1: we we just we just popped shamp we just put
Speaker 1: the goggles on. I just popped champagne with y'all, and
Speaker 1: now y'all still talking about trading us, right, Yeah, hurt?
Speaker 1: Since I like when trade deadline come around, all you
Speaker 1: can see it and all you can see it in
Speaker 1: people's faces when they're coming on the bus. It's hard
Speaker 1: to recover when your name is being thrown out trading
Speaker 1: because your players, your teammates just started to look like,
Speaker 1: oh you're still here man, wow, no serious, serious this,
Speaker 1: but the mess you.
Speaker 2: I think there should probably be three players that's untouchable.
Speaker 2: I think Austin Reeves is an untouchable agree to disagree
Speaker 2: acts right now.
Speaker 1: He's I mean, since since the end season tournament, the
Speaker 1: man has been on fire, been crazy. He's been crazy.
Speaker 1: Now he's been crazy. Now why is he still? Like
Speaker 1: My thing is, why is he still coming off the bench.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but it's hard as a player to earn
Speaker 1: your game, earn your minutes, and you still not allowing
Speaker 1: me to get my name called at the beginning of
Speaker 1: the game. I got family here too, I gottore some
Speaker 1: wom and daddy right sold.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question, So who do you
Speaker 2: start him in front of Prince? Because you got d
Speaker 2: low Prince and Cam red Prince. I don't need him
Speaker 2: and Cam they both.
Speaker 1: Get They both gonna give me what they both gonna
Speaker 1: give me seven nine. But since Prince has been playing well, Cam,
Speaker 1: you can bring it off the bench. You ain't earning
Speaker 1: your minutes. That that that hurts the locker room. That
Speaker 1: hurts a locker room where I'm I'm sitting here giving
Speaker 1: you twenty off dimension you're starting to do who's giving
Speaker 1: you seven? Making me sense?
Speaker 2: And the thing is is that I understand that Cam
Speaker 2: is supposed to be this defensive stopper, but I don't
Speaker 2: see enough stops on that end because the guys are
Speaker 2: still getting their numbers to warrant him playing. Now, if
Speaker 2: you're gonna give me seven and the guy's supposed to
Speaker 2: get twenty five and you holding them to seventeen eighteen okay,
Speaker 2: But if a guy's supposed to get twenty you know,
Speaker 2: he's averaging twenty five, and he's getting twenty five, you'll
Speaker 2: sit that that doesn't that doesn't you know, your sell
Speaker 2: points don't justify you continuously get those type of minutes,
Speaker 2: And that's how we.
Speaker 1: Judge it in the locker room. That's how we judge
Speaker 1: in the locker room. Like you're supposed to be a
Speaker 1: defensive stopper. If he scores his numbers or more and
Speaker 1: you're not offsetting it, why are you on the court? Right? Correct?
Speaker 1: Your defense? Your defense ain't worth you being on the
Speaker 1: court When I can offset him on my storing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I might not be able to you know, stop you know,
Speaker 1: water from running. But he scored thirty. I got twenty two.
Speaker 1: That's only a eight point difference versus his thirty six.
Speaker 2: Correct, that's twenty four. You're absolutely right. So let me
Speaker 2: ask you a question. So, what what do the Lakers need?
Speaker 2: How do they make this team better? If if obviously
Speaker 2: Lebron ad are Nto really really really untouchable, Austin Reeves
Speaker 2: is untouchable, what's the kind of what's the package that
Speaker 2: they could package and possibly get someone that can help
Speaker 2: him because clearly I think they won't score like if
Speaker 2: they if if you.
Speaker 1: Can with zach if if zach Lavine is the one
Speaker 1: that's on the on the on the shop on the radar, right,
Speaker 1: you know the perfect the perfect three. It would be Rui,
Speaker 1: d Low and Prince. They money match up to forty million, right,
Speaker 1: so you you you can make that without any losing
Speaker 1: without losing any draft picks. You know, uh we had
Speaker 1: I called him the y m C, a player you
Speaker 1: know from Miami. He just came back today. I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: a YMC, we can we can start him and keep
Speaker 1: Austin as our sixth man. But Austin can play the
Speaker 1: point I mean today, Yeah, poing guard ain't the point
Speaker 1: guard like that anymore, you know what I mean? So
Speaker 1: we we have we have pieces where we can give
Speaker 1: up and still be dynamic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, nobody the old the old point guard, the Jason Kidds,
Speaker 2: the Magic Johnson, John Stanton. No, these guys are mostly
Speaker 2: two guards masquerading its point.
Speaker 1: Did you like the line up how he started? Because
Speaker 1: look like Chicago started big and he started small. I'm
Speaker 1: starting to question I'm starting to question Bumpy a little
Speaker 1: bit I'm not even gonna lie, right, I'm sorry, but
Speaker 1: you know, like we are, championship teams are are huge.
Speaker 1: No matter what winning teams are doing during the regular season,
Speaker 1: the teams that pull in them championships are tall. They're
Speaker 1: playing bully basketball. That doesn't small ball. That small ball
Speaker 1: don't work like that, right. You see what's happening to
Speaker 1: the Warriors now, yeah, I mean I think they just
Speaker 1: need to tweet some things over there. But like Denver
Speaker 1: was big when Golden State won, and I mean Katie six,
Speaker 1: you know, six eleven right, right, number big? Right?
Speaker 2: The teams that men are tall teams, right, yeah, But
Speaker 2: and they also had Jabel McGee. It's not like Jabel
Speaker 2: McGee is six. And you remember when they first started,
Speaker 2: they had Festal Suzli, they had Andrew Bolga with the
Speaker 2: exception with the exception of the last time they won
Speaker 2: when they beat the Celtics and they just had loom
Speaker 2: Kevon Looney.
Speaker 1: They they've been a big, big team, right, So you
Speaker 1: know that just that small ball. I think they called
Speaker 1: it what the death squad like Iggy at the four.
Speaker 1: I think people confuse that lineup with like the championship lineup, right,
Speaker 1: not understanding Eggy came off the bench, right and they
Speaker 1: put that team in for spurts. You know that you
Speaker 1: were dumb enough to the change to go small with them,
Speaker 1: small and small with them.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: The Clippers beat the MAVs one eleven. Kawhi drops thirty points,
Speaker 2: James Harden has seventeen points eleven assists. Clippers are now
Speaker 2: on a nine game winning streak since James Harden got
Speaker 2: inserted into the starting lineup. Russ says, I understand the
Speaker 2: definition of true sacrifice. And Russ, you are absolutely right,
Speaker 2: because I'm not so sure a whole lot of guys,
Speaker 2: with your medals and medallions and trophies and accolades, what's
Speaker 2: gonna be as receptive as going to the bench and
Speaker 2: having their minutes reduced like they did as you have
Speaker 2: been man like.
Speaker 1: We have to really sit back and and think how
Speaker 1: we judge our athletes, right right, you know, because someone
Speaker 1: how they played the game. Russ played with that that
Speaker 1: chip on his shoulder, the triple double, you know, the
Speaker 1: way he played, the way he carried himself. He became
Speaker 1: a villain to the point where they made the triple
Speaker 1: double irrelevant because he was doing ah, yeah, the stats. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he just he's hustling getting rebounds and we don't like it,
Speaker 1: like it. That's an effort, right, that's the effort thing
Speaker 1: to the point where we called him selfish. But when
Speaker 1: you listen to all the players that he played with,
Speaker 1: he was the most unselfish guy. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you ever heard that story about Pat Bev, right, you
Speaker 1: know him and Pat Bev was yes, and Pat Bev's
Speaker 1: sister was trying to get in the game and she
Speaker 1: didn't have seats. Pat Bed forgot the lever seats. So
Speaker 1: Russell gave his enemy. He gave his enemy sister front
Speaker 1: row tickets. Gave us, hey, you can have my people's
Speaker 1: not coming, you can sit front row in my seats. Right,
Speaker 1: So when Pat Bed was at the free throw line,
Speaker 1: Russell's like, hey, your sister's front row. I gave him
Speaker 1: my seats and Pat Bed like and then he had
Speaker 1: the process what he said, like wait what he looked
Speaker 1: over seeing his sister's front row and then had to
Speaker 1: think of after the game. That's Russell, right, So what
Speaker 1: Russell did was that's who he is, right. He wants
Speaker 1: to win at all costs. Just sometimes you just don't
Speaker 1: like to approach. And I think that when he went
Speaker 1: to LA we're not gonna talk bad on Lebron. Ad
Speaker 1: just won a championship, so he was untouchable. So we're
Speaker 1: looking at the person that we can blame. But that
Speaker 1: was the only person who was holding the ship that year.
Speaker 1: He was the only person who played seventy five games,
Speaker 1: and we blame him for the downfall. And I think
Speaker 1: just he just got a bad, bad rap for himself.
Speaker 2: I agree, And you know, look, the Laker fans are
Speaker 2: different because they have a level of expectation Gill, and
Speaker 2: they know and they don't care what you've done elsewhere.
Speaker 2: He got those triple doubles and he was an MVP
Speaker 2: and ok see, and he got it triple doubles and
Speaker 2: in Washington and he played really well alongside James Harden
Speaker 2: And when he didn't come and give them those numbers for.
Speaker 1: The Lakers, they didn't care that he was he was homegrown.
Speaker 1: And because you have to understand the level of greatness
Speaker 1: that they expect. When you think of Lakers.
Speaker 2: You see all those monuments out front, you see all
Speaker 2: those those jersey numbers just hanging up.
Speaker 1: That's what these fans expected home growing up. Did you
Speaker 1: see you remember and I know you remember this, Gil,
Speaker 1: when Lebron first got here and they tried to put
Speaker 1: up murals, they they come him up.
Speaker 2: Nope, we're not doing that yet because he got those MVPs,
Speaker 2: and he got those championships elsewhere, he got all these
Speaker 2: accolades elsewhere. Until he does something in the purple and goal,
Speaker 2: we're not going to accept him.
Speaker 1: And that is fact steal steal lequor fans, it's like, eh,
Speaker 1: we're on the fence still, because the thing is is
Speaker 1: that they look at Lebron as an adversary to Kobe,
Speaker 1: and anybody that could possibly threaten Kobe, that's a no
Speaker 1: going Kobe. Kobe is God to the Lakers. Nobody, not Magic,
Speaker 1: not Kareem, not Shot, not Will, not Mike, not not
Speaker 1: anybody that Elgian Bayla, not Jared Rest, Kareem. Nobody is
Speaker 1: on the.
Speaker 2: Level of Kobe in a Laker uniform because they saw
Speaker 2: a seventeen year old boy come here, sure grow and
Speaker 2: they saw every step of the way. Nobody is gonna
Speaker 2: replace Kobe. Nobody, it ain't gonna happen. He was the
Speaker 2: he was the American dream. Right when we think American
Speaker 2: Dream when we think.
Speaker 1: Of our our the movies we love, right, we have
Speaker 1: the guy start off as a hero, gets dropped down
Speaker 1: from that hero stature, and then build himself back to
Speaker 1: that hero stature. Right, that's Kobe. That's what Kobe did right, right, right.
Speaker 1: No other star did that when Jordan Jordan was Jordan
Speaker 1: What's magic? Right, They didn't go here, fall here and say, ah,
Speaker 1: I'm going back to the mountain. And that's why Laker
Speaker 1: fans would never say Kobe is not the greatest Laker ever.
Speaker 1: He did he did something that.
Speaker 2: We can identify with, right, because you know what, he's human.
Speaker 2: He's human, and I think everybody, you know, everybody likes
Speaker 2: like man. There's frailty, there's human frailties. And when we
Speaker 2: see our superstars, and sometimes it's almost like, you know,
Speaker 2: you go to the top and then you fall down,
Speaker 2: and then we're gonna do everything we can to push
Speaker 2: you back up because we don't believe you should have
Speaker 2: failed anyway. Somebody tripped you up. And so what we're
Speaker 2: gonna do is that we're gonna pick you back up
Speaker 2: in a hurry and run you back up to the
Speaker 2: proper place that we believe you should have been all
Speaker 2: along us, So yes, it's gonna be tough.
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Speaker 2: Last minute tickets Loyds Price guaranteed Luca franchise regular eleven
Speaker 2: consecutive games with at least thirty points ended.
Speaker 1: He came up with twenty eight.
Speaker 2: I think he had a triple double twenty eight, ten
Speaker 2: and eleven if I'm not mistaken. This was also the
Speaker 2: sixth straight game that Kyrie missed. Would a bruised hell.
Speaker 2: I just don't know how far this team can go
Speaker 2: without Kyrie. I don't really know how far ten they do?
Speaker 2: You do you see? Obviously the Clippers that I talked
Speaker 2: to Todd Lou. I saw ty Lou the other day
Speaker 2: and had a good conversation with him, and he's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: we figured this thing out.
Speaker 1: We're gonna We're gon We're gonna be a tough out now. Hey.
Speaker 2: So I had a great conversation with him. But when
Speaker 2: I look at the Mavericks, how far can they realistically?
Speaker 1: Not far? Not far? Like man Luca's good Lucas good man,
Speaker 1: Like he's never had an actual contending team. But it
Speaker 1: makes it look like they got something going on, Like
Speaker 1: it's right, there's been some trash, but yees. This dominance
Speaker 1: individually has made people really think MAVs is a playoff team.
Speaker 1: They got a chance, they got a chance. Right, he's
Speaker 1: been doing a number on the Clippers, So I know
Speaker 1: the Clippers is like, oh finally.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he didn't get forty, he didn't get forty seventeen,
Speaker 2: and we finally got a team that we could just
Speaker 2: beat Luca. So the fact that you know, the Clippers
Speaker 2: did win the you know what, I wasn't on calling
Speaker 2: them slippers, but.
Speaker 1: I think they've earned their name a little bit. I
Speaker 1: think they earned a clip, a little clip in it.
Speaker 1: I've been impressed, a little clip in it. Like you know,
Speaker 1: you know, Daryl got a I mean, I don't think
Speaker 1: I think Clipper Daryl need to stay away because uh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah yeah, Lord's he keeps em and Marcella's Wiley's load.
Speaker 2: They stopped talking. Clippers do very well, y'all bad look me, Malone. Yes,
Speaker 2: with Kyrie out, they have no chance.
Speaker 1: But with Kyrie in, they still don't have an They
Speaker 1: still don't have enough pieces.
Speaker 2: I don't believe they don't don't. I don't believe so either.
Speaker 2: But give the Clippers. It seems like it's a different
Speaker 2: guy every night. Tonight, Kawhi had it going. I mean,
Speaker 2: euro Step is spinning Baseline Duncan. The other night it
Speaker 2: was James Harden. We see Paul George hit the game winner,
Speaker 2: and seemingly it's a different guy every night. Norman Pile
Speaker 2: has been sensational over the last six seven games. We
Speaker 2: know Terrence Man is gonna be all huffs, hustled. He
Speaker 2: can knock down some big shots. Russey's gonna come in
Speaker 2: and give you energy. Even a mere coffee came in.
Speaker 2: He hit some big shots tonight. Zubox didn't finish the game.
Speaker 2: He really rarely does, but he's gonna.
Speaker 1: You know what he is.
Speaker 2: He's gonna hustle for you to get you the bullet backs,
Speaker 2: get you some offensive rebounds.
Speaker 1: Yeah they look good. They're not big, but they look good.
Speaker 1: And that's what you need from a superstar team like that,
Speaker 1: right where any given night one of us can explode, Yes,
Speaker 1: you know, and you know when we're all hitting, we're untouchable, unbeatable. Yep,
Speaker 1: three of us is on. We're still unbeatable, right, you know.
Speaker 1: Two we can still manage it out. Maybe a bench
Speaker 1: players come in, but we have enough talent on here.
Speaker 1: As long as we're playing the right type of basketball, right,
Speaker 1: we should be fine.
Speaker 2: The most impressive thing while learning had missed the game. Facts,
Speaker 2: that's the most impressive thing.
Speaker 1: Facts facts right, that part is and we ain't even
Speaker 1: giving his flowers for it. They Hey, I got I
Speaker 1: just had to.
Speaker 2: Hey, Kawhi, mister game because you know, normally this time,
Speaker 2: even a guy by Sam eighty of them things under
Speaker 2: the belt. Listen, why say somebody Paul George. But you
Speaker 2: know Russ is gonna play regardless. James are normally plays.
Speaker 2: The young guys are gonna play because they don't know
Speaker 2: any better. Hey, they just they just happy. But you know,
Speaker 2: Kwi like to save some of his games for the
Speaker 2: trip home, you know, you know March aprilaw I say, hey,
Speaker 2: I need to come to day. Yeah, I'm good to go.
Speaker 2: But uh, they've been playing well. I've been very pressed
Speaker 2: with what I saw. John Moran last night scores thirty
Speaker 2: four in his return hits the game winner. Tim Moran
Speaker 2: was on a radio station tonight and saying, my son
Speaker 2: job is to try to win championship for the Memphis
Speaker 2: Grizzly face of the league.
Speaker 1: That come from other people's opinion.
Speaker 2: Second, there have been a lot of faces of the
Speaker 2: league that have done way worse things than my son.
Speaker 2: So while my son is under the guillotine again. You
Speaker 2: cannot do this to me. You cannot double standing me
Speaker 2: and talk about the face of the league.
Speaker 1: Tee. Does he understand?
Speaker 2: And I think he's trying to make reference to the
Speaker 2: guy that we're just talking about here in LA for
Speaker 2: what transpired to him. I think it was two thousand
Speaker 2: and three. Does he know that we're in a different
Speaker 2: time now, two thousand and three and twenty twenty three,
Speaker 2: that there's this thing to call the me too movement.
Speaker 2: We just saw Jonathan Major basically lose his career over
Speaker 2: a situation.
Speaker 1: I mean, t are you? I mean, what are we missing?
Speaker 1: I mean?
Speaker 2: Does he not understand that the NBA is a private business.
Speaker 1: They sent the rules.
Speaker 2: They said your son's behavior although he broke no law,
Speaker 2: but he broke the NBA's law because they get to
Speaker 2: sit it because they're a private business. Do you understand
Speaker 2: like private business can say no trespassing and you can't
Speaker 2: go there. So I don't get what. I don't get
Speaker 2: what T is missing. Maybe I'm missing something. Maybe i'm
Speaker 2: a little I'm a little older than you, Gil, so
Speaker 2: maybe you can help me understand what I'm missing.
Speaker 1: We're the ruthlessness of rules. Right. Okay, so we have
Speaker 1: Josh Giddy, Right, Yes, the NBA is doing exactly what
Speaker 1: the NBA is supposed to do. Wait until there's a
Speaker 1: guilty verdict before you're penalized. Right, that's the American way,
Speaker 1: what innocent into proven guilty? Right? Correct? Because a few
Speaker 1: people that's been penalized before being proven guilty. I was
Speaker 1: one of them, right, I was one. Jaw was one.
Speaker 1: The worst thing you ever want in the suspension is
Speaker 1: detrimental to the team because that can be one game
Speaker 1: or eighty two. There's no time capsule on this thing, right, Okay.
Speaker 1: In a sense, Jaw would rather have had a gun
Speaker 1: suspension because that's only run three, five to seven games. Right.
Speaker 1: You don't want to be suspended for your behavior because
Speaker 1: that can mean anything, right, that's just get you off
Speaker 1: the court. Right, It's just it's made up at the point. Right,
Speaker 1: So he will have rather say, hey, I had a gun,
Speaker 1: give me one or three games, because that's football, one
Speaker 1: or three games most and that was somebody shooting it.
Speaker 1: Other than that, the behavior thing becomes this imaginary thing.
Speaker 1: So it was unfair under the NBA rule because the
Speaker 1: NBA rule they're using. They're just making it up in
Speaker 1: real time, right. But what he doesn't understand is that's
Speaker 1: how good your son is where he's under the guillotine.
Speaker 1: If he wasn't part of the NBA's future, they wouldn't
Speaker 1: give two shits about that man. They wouldn't They wouldn't care,
Speaker 1: They wouldn't have put his game on T and T,
Speaker 1: they wouldn't have done none of this. Yeah, but because
Speaker 1: who he is and how he plays, he's under a
Speaker 1: microscope that he cannot do the things he's doing.
Speaker 2: What about the thing as a repeat offender? Where he
Speaker 2: went before? Before he he he, his son John and
Speaker 2: their team went before the commissioner and say, we come
Speaker 2: in here in the humblest way. We know how we
Speaker 2: at the mercy of the NBA, and I promise you,
Speaker 2: my son, and he promised that I'll never put myself
Speaker 2: in this position again.
Speaker 1: And guess what. He goes and goes through the drive.
Speaker 2: Through rehab and he stayed twenty four hours and the
Speaker 2: next thing, you know, two months later, he right back
Speaker 2: on ig waving that thing.
Speaker 1: So what what what about that? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Okay, the first time I get it. We all make
Speaker 2: mistakes and I'm a firm believer. The biggest uh, the
Speaker 2: way you can change a change behage. Behavior is the
Speaker 2: biggest is the best apology. So you said you ain't
Speaker 2: gonna worry about me, Commissioner, I'm done with that. And
Speaker 2: two months later, what am I supposed to do with that?
Speaker 1: Gil the same thing, the same exact thing they did,
Speaker 1: because because I did it at twenty eight, right, which
Speaker 1: makes me the idiot? Right? Are you know? Oh? I
Speaker 1: know better? Right? Being superman? Right, you got the world
Speaker 1: that's your hands. You have superman power. You have when
Speaker 1: you walk in places, you are jamaran. When you walk
Speaker 1: in buildings, ship gets shut down. When you go to
Speaker 1: a restaurant they're paying for with all the money in
Speaker 1: the world. Their behavior he's doing is just immature because
Speaker 1: that's what knows, right, it's what he knows. You. You
Speaker 1: got to You got a guy who's a kid. When
Speaker 1: we say kid, we're saying he's just out of college.
Speaker 1: All the money in the world. You as senior in college,
Speaker 1: y'all doing drinking parties and doing all that. Right, it's
Speaker 1: a different now getting let me give you two hundred
Speaker 1: three hundred million. You can buy everything. You will have
Speaker 1: this sense of I'm I'm untouchable, right, and we all
Speaker 1: fall through it. A lot of us fell through it.
Speaker 1: He's so he's gonna go through some more. Other players
Speaker 1: are gonna go.
Speaker 2: You feel you're untouchable, and Gil what I tell people,
Speaker 2: money doesn't change you, it makes you more you already are.
Speaker 2: If your childish, that means you're just money and you're
Speaker 2: gonna be You're gonna buy childish things. You're gonna do
Speaker 2: even more outlandish childish things.
Speaker 1: Forgive me.
Speaker 2: Uh So with this, so let me ask you a question,
Speaker 2: because it doesn't look like the family of the kids
Speaker 2: or the family of the young lady with the Josh
Speaker 2: Getty situation here, it doesn't look like they're cooperating, but
Speaker 2: they have pared an attorney, and so it looks like
Speaker 2: a settlement is going to happen. What do you believe
Speaker 2: the NBA will do or what do you think they
Speaker 2: should do?
Speaker 1: Okay? So the fact that from what we've heard, this
Speaker 1: has been a year ago, right, so right, everyone's been
Speaker 1: aware for a year. The problem is what evidence does
Speaker 1: anyone have, right besides a picture and words? Right? Right,
Speaker 1: that's all we know now that this is a correct
Speaker 1: of them, right, and someone wrote their own title on it.
Speaker 1: Right at this point, that's all we know. So if
Speaker 1: there's a settlement that happens, we will never know about it, correct, Right,
Speaker 1: So the NBA would not be able to do anything anyway,
Speaker 1: or he can have a lawsuit against them. Right. That's
Speaker 1: what people don't understand because what ends up happening is
Speaker 1: if you suspend this guy, that means you have demonized
Speaker 1: him and made him guilty without any evidence. So if
Speaker 1: there's never no case and you done suspended this man
Speaker 1: without pay, what he does now is he sues for
Speaker 1: everything he's lost and future earnings. So, hey, I could
Speaker 1: have been an All Star, I could have been the
Speaker 1: future could have been on this and you took your
Speaker 1: ruined You ruined my brand, my brand, And that's what
Speaker 1: that's why the NBA doesn't do that and his behavior
Speaker 1: right now, they can't get him for a detrimental team, yeah,
Speaker 1: because that was that's the kind of thing. They can
Speaker 1: suspend him for his detrimental to the team to get
Speaker 1: out of the right. And then you know, Joh said
Speaker 1: he kept receives. Joh, what was I can see.
Speaker 2: I don't know, and I could be wrong, but I
Speaker 2: was When I was asked on the Old Show coming out,
Speaker 2: who would I take Job Zion? I was always in
Speaker 2: Job's corner because I thought Zion was too heavy and
Speaker 2: I thought he was going to have a short career
Speaker 2: because of injuries. So I said, I got Joh. So
Speaker 2: I've been a Josh supporter of his basketball play. I
Speaker 2: thought some of the things that he'd done off the
Speaker 2: court I thought was immature and and and warranted criticism.
Speaker 2: But for him to say he kept receives, who had
Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure who in this space guil be
Speaker 2: at podcast.
Speaker 1: Social media, I'm talking about that do what we.
Speaker 2: Do, or that's on a platform that has ever said
Speaker 2: had criticized Job's game on the court. Because normally when
Speaker 2: you keep receives, Guil I said something negative about you, Gil,
Speaker 2: I said, I don't believe that you can do what
Speaker 2: you that you said you can do.
Speaker 1: Gil. That's you keep it received for that, you keep
Speaker 1: it received because of your behavior off the court. It's
Speaker 1: it's it's fuel. It's it's a thing that we use
Speaker 1: to get us up for games. Okay, it ain't a
Speaker 1: real thing unless you got a draft and people got
Speaker 1: you know, they got in front of you in a draft.
Speaker 1: Other than that, you can say, hey, Joah had a
Speaker 1: bad game, and I'm gonna use that as fuel. It's
Speaker 1: just the way I like that he has this because
Speaker 1: you know what time he's gonna be on. Right, You know,
Speaker 1: you gotta figure out ways to get yourself up for
Speaker 1: games when when you don't have it. And and most
Speaker 1: of the guys, they create enemies, okay, right, they pretend
Speaker 1: they hurt, they create demons. Huh yeah, we create enemies, right,
Speaker 1: you said what I'm about to show you, like you
Speaker 1: started with CNT game. You pretend, oh, Regie Miller, you
Speaker 1: said what I'm about to show you? And then we
Speaker 1: look at it. That's that's that's just something we do.
Speaker 1: Just keep our our our game at a certain level.
Speaker 1: He don't have no lists. His list his list really
Speaker 1: is those that that that he cannot make that All
Speaker 1: NBA team. So anybody he thinks it's capable of making it. Oh,
Speaker 1: he about to go hand on them.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah for sure, because they cost him with another
Speaker 2: thirty forty million dollars by keeping him off one of
Speaker 2: those three All NBA teams. Because now he really gets
Speaker 2: that max contract because he's made an All NBA team
Speaker 2: first second, the thirteen within you know what, a year
Speaker 2: or two of signing that contract, get him at a
Speaker 2: disc discounted rate.
Speaker 1: Discount discount shack. Call to stir.
Speaker 2: He says, Steph Curry deserves considerations as the NBA's goal.
Speaker 1: I'm wondering if it's time shock.
Speaker 2: This is shock and I quote, I'm wondering if it's
Speaker 2: time to start putting Steph Curry as the best player
Speaker 2: all time. Kenny, you put him over you shot. Yes,
Speaker 2: Steph has four championships. He's won two of them without
Speaker 2: a second All NBA player alongside of him. He's won
Speaker 2: two of them MVPs, one of which is an ananimous
Speaker 2: and he's the three point Well, we know what he's
Speaker 2: done in three point competition. So a combination of a
Speaker 2: shooting and ball handler has never been but Gil, I'm
Speaker 2: anxious to hear. But this is while I look at
Speaker 2: it like women. Okay, a woman might have a standard
Speaker 2: that she says, okay for a husband, I want this, this,
Speaker 2: this and this and this, and another lady might says, okay,
Speaker 2: I want this, but I can do without that. I
Speaker 2: want this, this and this and this for me. I
Speaker 2: said in order for me to consider you a goat,
Speaker 2: you need at least three regular season MVPs, two finals MVPs,
Speaker 2: and somewhere between eight and ten all NBA teams woo.
Speaker 1: For you to be considered the goat. Because think about it.
Speaker 2: Now, we're talking about in the history the seventy seven
Speaker 2: seventy eight year history of the NBA, we're saying you're
Speaker 2: the best player of all time, and there's a very
Speaker 2: select could even be considered.
Speaker 1: You talking about Lebron.
Speaker 2: You're talking about Kareem, you're talking about Jordan, you're talking
Speaker 2: about Magic, you're talking about Bird, you're talking about Duncan,
Speaker 2: you're talking about Will, you're talking about Russell. I don't
Speaker 2: think because you know, look, I understand the three point shot. Okay,
Speaker 2: we already know the only competition the question of point guard.
Speaker 1: Is he in magic? Okay? You like steph Okay, fine,
Speaker 1: you like magic. Magic?
Speaker 2: Magic is for me, But that's just my criteria. It's
Speaker 2: like you choose a woman. Well, I needed to be
Speaker 2: you know, five ten. I wanted to have you know,
Speaker 2: you know, beat up butter skin. I wanted to have
Speaker 2: real hara.
Speaker 1: I wanted to be built like this, or I wanted
Speaker 1: to be college educated. I wanted to have a job.
Speaker 1: I want Okay, whatever the choice of this, that's just
Speaker 1: my criteria. Where are you on this? Well, I got
Speaker 1: stuffed in my top ten after you won that title. Deal,
Speaker 1: I put him in the top ten. I did so
Speaker 1: when when you said your goat, there was there's only
Speaker 1: two names, right. The problem with the goat discussion is
Speaker 1: when it was created the goat conversation, there was only
Speaker 1: one criteria. It was Michael Jordan. Yeah, that was it.
Speaker 1: There was no so and I always asked, you know,
Speaker 1: so I had to ask eighties players. I had Clyde Drexler,
Speaker 1: all of them. I said before Michael Jordan was the goat?
Speaker 1: Who was the who did he take the crown off? No,
Speaker 1: they never bestowed that anybody. They didn't have any right.
Speaker 1: So if they didn't have no goat, right, I can't
Speaker 1: give you a criteria because the guy they gave it
Speaker 1: to at the time, he only had one championship. He
Speaker 1: only had one when they gave him this that you
Speaker 1: are the best player we have ever seen. You are
Speaker 1: him that they were saying that he didn't have no title.
Speaker 1: But that's what I'm saying. Nine eighty nine. But that's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So it's hard to have a it's all.
Speaker 1: It's hard to have a standard when the standard didn't
Speaker 1: have it right. So it's hard to say now you
Speaker 1: need five championships because the people that we magic willed,
Speaker 1: Russ Bird, they would considered the goat, so their stats
Speaker 1: don't even matter, right, So the only person that's in
Speaker 1: that category is Lebron James. That's the only one who's
Speaker 1: threatened this this this truck. Magic didn't have it, Bird
Speaker 1: didn't have it, Will correct, none of them had it right, right,
Speaker 1: So so I can't put you in there now, shit right,
Speaker 1: I can't put you Hey, eighty nine, he's it. That
Speaker 1: means everybody before eighty nine, eighty eight till forty seven. No,
Speaker 1: you're not, and you're not a part of it. So
Speaker 1: the only person that actually got can that is threatening
Speaker 1: it will be Lebron. Everybody else, you guys are just
Speaker 1: you guys are second tier. That's gonna come for me
Speaker 1: because I think the thing is for me.
Speaker 2: Gil is that uh, And it's funny that you said
Speaker 2: that because will Will numbers are never gonna be challenged.
Speaker 2: Nobody's ever gonna average fifty to twenty five. Nobody's going
Speaker 2: to average forty four and twenty seven. Nobody's gonna average
Speaker 2: thirty points and twenty three rebounds for career. Those rebounding
Speaker 2: numbers ain't. Ain't nobody getting fifty five rebounds in the game.
Speaker 2: That ain't gonna happen.
Speaker 1: There's a stat hit fourteen point four blocks for his career,
Speaker 1: Just throw it away.
Speaker 2: How many but if this, think about it, Gil, if
Speaker 2: they would have killed block shots, how many trips doubles.
Speaker 1: What he have had? He'd had four hundred? No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: he has eight hundred quadruple doubles.
Speaker 2: Oh so, And that's the thing is that like and
Speaker 2: then Kareem came along and Kareem won won six He
Speaker 2: won six titles, win the ten, six MVPs. He has
Speaker 2: the most MVPs. And he had a record that many
Speaker 2: thought would never be broken. I'm old enough to remember
Speaker 2: when he broke the record at uh in Vegas. They
Speaker 2: played Utah because back then the NBA wasn't like he was,
Speaker 2: so they took teams and put him in different places
Speaker 2: so different people could see them. I'm old enough to
Speaker 2: remember when the NBA Finals was tape delayed, Yep, that's how.
Speaker 2: That's how I go back. So and I'm looking like
Speaker 2: and they're right. No one ever saying, oh, he's the
Speaker 2: best player ever, because I remember, I remember Karee and
Speaker 2: uh when he would not when he joined the Lakers.
Speaker 1: But when Magic got there, I mean we you know,
Speaker 1: we watched the NBA.
Speaker 2: Uh, mainly the Sixers, because the Sixers were really good
Speaker 2: in the late seventies. Once they got the doc, they
Speaker 2: were going to the NBA fight, you know, they lost
Speaker 2: to Portland and Big Bill Bill Walton, and then you
Speaker 2: had the SuperSonics, and then you had the Bullets. They
Speaker 2: changed the name because of the violence there. And so
Speaker 2: when Magic got there, now it's the Sixers in the Lakers,
Speaker 2: and so now this is and the Celtics the lard Bird.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, and then it wasn't because we had
Speaker 1: never seen anything like Michael. You've never seen a guy.
Speaker 1: We had never seen anybody that can leveled his flair
Speaker 1: for the game and what he could do the the
Speaker 1: you know, and the tongue, see the tongue hanging out.
Speaker 1: And then and then the best thing, the best thing
Speaker 1: and the worst thing that ever happened to everybody else
Speaker 1: it's got to be the shoes. It's got to be
Speaker 1: the shoes money. Yeah, it's it's it took him to
Speaker 1: a gil. You know, when you got a brand and
Speaker 1: you are the brand that eighty that like when people
Speaker 1: talk about like the goat and they say, oh, you
Speaker 1: know he got six rings, Just show you just a
Speaker 1: eighty eight eighty nine. That's it. When when the shoe
Speaker 1: company took the wings off and put the logo on
Speaker 1: that lets you know red then right, yes, But sometimes
Speaker 1: I don't like talking like stats, right when you talk
Speaker 1: about MVPs finals MVPs, because now would Russell be considered
Speaker 1: a goat if he had ten finals MVPs or nine
Speaker 1: finals MVPs, right, he would be a different category. But
Speaker 1: that wasn't invented.
Speaker 2: Then, right If the finals MVP didn't come out until
Speaker 2: nineteen sixty nine and Jerry West won it for losing squad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what That's what I'm saying. That was the
Speaker 1: first finals MVP, so it wasn't created until after he retired, right, right,
Speaker 1: So you know what I mean. So those are that's
Speaker 1: a category that he don't have towards mentality. You know,
Speaker 1: when we talk about when we use these these MVPs, finals, MVPs.
Speaker 1: They don't mean anything. How did you play the game
Speaker 1: where you dominant? Did you change? So Shaq changed the game?
Speaker 1: I was there, yes, like like I I was there
Speaker 1: when he was calling our big Man's bombs? How mean
Speaker 1: these bums you're gonna keep putting out here? You can
Speaker 1: put them all, but you can put all five sinners
Speaker 1: here on the same court, and I'm running through all
Speaker 1: of them. I'm there. We had to put a zone
Speaker 1: in where we had to put somebody in front, back
Speaker 1: on the side. Like I wasn't there, right, So what
Speaker 1: he's saying is he's putting his steps in front. I
Speaker 1: know he's lying, right, I know he's lying. They was
Speaker 1: drafting big Man just just to deal with him, just
Speaker 1: for bodies, right. You know he's trying to be humble.
Speaker 1: He's trying to be humble. But if you ever see
Speaker 1: a list that Shack ain't on the five, oh, he
Speaker 1: gets offended every time he created his own Have you
Speaker 1: know that every time he creates the five, he's in it?
Speaker 1: And rightfully so. Yeah. But but for Steph to to
Speaker 1: poll vot Kareem and to poot Jordan and to probe
Speaker 1: let's just say Bron Korean, because I think most of
Speaker 1: the time when we do have this discussion is Lebron Jordan.
Speaker 2: Kareem, Kareem Jordan, Lebron Jordan Kareem. Now, a lot of
Speaker 2: the young guys that played when you played, put Kobe
Speaker 2: in there. They are the young guys. Put Kobe in there. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but it's just it's but let me ask you a question.
Speaker 2: Let's just say, for the sake of argument, Jordan has
Speaker 2: six mv has six finals MVPs, but he only has one.
Speaker 1: MVP regular season. Yeah, we still hell yeah because we
Speaker 1: don't know good because because the NBA back then, right,
Speaker 1: think about it like this, from ninety to he retired. Shit.
Speaker 1: From eighty eighty seven. Shit, maybe you think he won
Speaker 1: eighty I think you won. I think you won an
Speaker 1: eighty eight, eighty nine. I think when was he considered
Speaker 1: the best player eighty one five, But I mean he.
Speaker 2: Was well, like, well the thing magic and Bird started talking,
Speaker 2: although he didn't have the team because every year I
Speaker 2: think it was like from from eighty from eighty two
Speaker 2: all the way to eighty seven, it was basically the
Speaker 2: Lakers and the Celtics in the finals with the exception
Speaker 2: of maybe one year, two years it was the Sixers,
Speaker 2: but you know, Magic won eighty and then Bird won
Speaker 2: in eighty one, and then Magic won eighty two, and
Speaker 2: then the six is eighty three, and then Larry won
Speaker 2: eighty four, and then Magic won eighty five, Bird won
Speaker 2: eighty six, and then Magic won eighty seven, eighty eight,
Speaker 2: and then Isaiah won eighty nine, ninety and then.
Speaker 1: He'll come Jordan jump it over in the nights. And
Speaker 1: so everybody's like, well, if he's so great, why he
Speaker 1: can't break through? So they're best around it. They've been
Speaker 1: lessed about it.
Speaker 2: I don't know he would he wouldn't got the magic
Speaker 2: potion it once he broke through.
Speaker 1: So when when we talk about the MVP, if he
Speaker 1: was the best player in the league, hands down, no
Speaker 1: questions asked, Right you given him an MVP trophy or
Speaker 1: giving it to someone else don't make them better? Like
Speaker 1: we know at some point you had to give it
Speaker 1: to someone else, right know? And if he was the
Speaker 1: best player on the best team, dominating the game, scoring title,
Speaker 1: this and this, he has six rings, how come he
Speaker 1: don't have six MVPs? Right? Who? Who? Who? Who deserved it? Right? You?
Speaker 1: Know what I mean.
Speaker 2: It needs to be like hockey. It needs to be
Speaker 2: like hockey. Resk, you won nine heart he won the
Speaker 2: heart trophies every year. You saw Barry Bonds with when
Speaker 2: the MVPs. If you're the best, giving, don't get tired,
Speaker 2: and you should get tired of nobody wanting to step
Speaker 2: up and and and take it from it. I'm not Look,
Speaker 2: if I'm a voter, if I believe that guy has
Speaker 2: the best, I'm voting for him. I ain't gonna get tired.
Speaker 1: And that's what it is. We get tired, like how
Speaker 1: does this This guy's team's number one every year, he's
Speaker 1: averaging thirty something every year, and he's the and he's
Speaker 1: losing who what? Who is he losing too? Because they're
Speaker 1: not number one? You know? And and and so the
Speaker 1: MVPs and all that stuff like I have to watch
Speaker 1: how you play this game? What was your act on
Speaker 1: it versus this statistical part because it's jaded, right, the voters,
Speaker 1: the voters are not watching every game, right, They're not
Speaker 1: watching every game? Aren't they looking at stats? Oh he
Speaker 1: had thirty two percent from the field. They don't say
Speaker 1: he got quadruple double, quadruple double. So it's it's it's
Speaker 1: we look at So my my five is Jordan lebron
Speaker 1: Cole Magic Shack. Right. The only reason I don't have
Speaker 1: Kareem and him I wasn't I wasn't alive. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: know what, but you I think you can attest to this.
Speaker 1: Kareem is the greatest player that gets the least credit
Speaker 1: in anybody in the NBA history. I don't know what
Speaker 1: he innocent, I don't know what he did to the reporters,
Speaker 1: but they do not like him.
Speaker 2: He was certainly, he was surly. He didn't they didn't.
Speaker 2: They didn't like him. That's why he didn't have don't. Also,
Speaker 2: he was Russell Wisbrook. He was very rough, worse.
Speaker 1: But you do. But here's the thing, Gill. Until nineteenth
Speaker 1: until eighty.
Speaker 2: You know, the players voted for the MVP. There was
Speaker 2: no writers voting for the MVP. The players used to
Speaker 2: vote because the year in sixty one sixty two, when
Speaker 2: Will averaged fifty twenty five, Bill Russell won the MVP.
Speaker 1: That's also the year Oscar Robinson had the triple double.
Speaker 1: If you they say sixty one sixty two was the
Speaker 1: greatest statistical season because Walt Bellamy and el Jim Baylor.
Speaker 1: They was like thirty eight to nineteen.
Speaker 2: Jerry West was like thirty seven thirty points seven rebounds
Speaker 2: A the cis uh, we know it.
Speaker 1: Russell was like nineteen twenty two. Oh no, that was wrong.
Speaker 1: They was Rocks. So they was putting up numbers.
Speaker 2: But obviously Russell won the finals MVP and he won
Speaker 2: the regular season MVP.
Speaker 1: So back then the players voted, so they're like, nah, man,
Speaker 1: that ain't that.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: If we don't like somebody like, we don't do that,
Speaker 1: that's today too. So so they took it.
Speaker 2: They took it away from the fans, from the the
Speaker 2: players and gave it to the gave it to the writers.
Speaker 2: So it had been interesting to see. Now I believe
Speaker 2: I agree with you because you I don't know if
Speaker 2: they do. They still have the Player of the ward
Speaker 2: because one year somebody won the MVP and then the
Speaker 2: players voted somebody else's MVP.
Speaker 1: That was the Curry Harden, So Curry's first MVP, the
Speaker 1: players voted that that was Harden's MVP.
Speaker 2: Right, So it'd be very interesting had the players continue
Speaker 2: to vote, how many championships would how many MVPs would
Speaker 2: Jordan have.
Speaker 1: How many would Kobe have, how many would Lebron have?
Speaker 1: How many? It would be very very interesting to see
Speaker 1: they would have, they will, they will have more than
Speaker 1: they have. Now. Yeah, that's garan because you know when
Speaker 1: we look and say, well, Shaq only got one MVP
Speaker 1: like how yes, it doesn't even make any sentence, right,
Speaker 1: And you know when you're when you're a writer, I
Speaker 1: don't you should your bad should be revoked if you
Speaker 1: are not voting correctly, right, you know, if if if
Speaker 1: you're sitting here and you got Lebron James and you
Speaker 1: know everyone voted Lebron James's first team, and then someone
Speaker 1: has them as third team, you should be hey, hey,
Speaker 1: what's what what's up? And if and if this is
Speaker 1: what you're doing, we're gonna pull us because you remember that, uh,
Speaker 1: that guy did that Lebron. Lebron was one vote away
Speaker 1: from where you're winning the m v P unanimous and
Speaker 1: the guy voted for Carmelo yes, And at that time, right,
Speaker 1: that's when you should say, Okay, you're not doing this fair.
Speaker 1: We're gonna were gonna we're gonna take away from you, right,
Speaker 1: We're gonna we're gonna take away from that. Thank you,
Speaker 1: appreciate you. You're gonna be on time out this year
Speaker 1: and following you. But that's what that should happen. Like,
Speaker 1: you shouldn't just have these guys just going in with
Speaker 1: their Oh, Lebron didn't getting an interview, he didn't give
Speaker 1: me to day. You know, I ain't gonna vote the
Speaker 1: first team. He can't have that.
Speaker 2: But you gil at the and I understand what you're saying.
Speaker 2: But they're human. I know you ay, ay, you know
Speaker 2: somebody at one point in time they give you your
Speaker 2: butt the kids, and now you get the upper hand.
Speaker 2: What you're gonna do. You're gonna turn around the bed.
Speaker 2: Don't give your butt right back. It's human and people
Speaker 2: are like you shouldn't. I said, bro, you have to
Speaker 2: understand these people are human at the end of the day. Yes,
Speaker 2: they have a job to do, but they're human and
Speaker 2: they have feelings, they have emotions and being like, Okay,
Speaker 2: I can't get you back any other way.
Speaker 1: But you know, you might, you might, Hey, you might.
Speaker 2: You wish you had this All NBA boat, You wish
Speaker 2: you had the m v P boat of the All
Speaker 2: Star boat. Hey, but you you never know, And that's
Speaker 2: why I say, you know, you have to treat people accordingly.
Speaker 1: Welcome. Look who we got Jr? To the chat?
Speaker 2: Let me guess, Let me guess that's that. That's a
Speaker 2: fake road, right, You got on fake rope. You get
Speaker 2: on here, you get on here, and we're fake fake
Speaker 2: or satchet.
Speaker 3: Nah, I loved y'all, man, Gil, what's up?
Speaker 1: Baby? It's up? Man. Man, you're looking good.
Speaker 3: I would sleep. I was sleep.
Speaker 1: You don't sleep. What you sleep for? Nothing? Looking? You
Speaker 1: just got from the club, baby, Nah. The only thing.
Speaker 2: You do realize, Oh, you're the only thing to come
Speaker 2: to sleeper is a dreams and you got to get
Speaker 2: up to make those happen.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well I got, I got up for you, baby,
Speaker 4: I got I got up. Listen y'all yet, do y'all
Speaker 4: talk on basketball talk?
Speaker 3: Baby? That's that's not That's not my lane.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: I'm trying to stand in the lane. I'm trying to
Speaker 4: learn the game. I've been studying a little bit. I'm
Speaker 4: not quite ready to jump on it with y'all. Man,
Speaker 4: so I can talk about the game of basketball in depth.
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what. Just get in the backseat.
Speaker 2: Just go for it, man, Just just mistle. I just
Speaker 2: missle and just chime in from time to time.
Speaker 1: Yil J.
Speaker 2: You said on your part that Draymond is not changing
Speaker 2: U D and Donna's Haslam just retired as a twenty
Speaker 2: years says he wants to see Draymond be a mental
Speaker 2: to these young players. At the end of the day,
Speaker 2: we're here the guys, these young fellas in the right direction.
Speaker 2: Can you imagine me swinging on hero I take a
Speaker 2: long walk on a short period, I'll never forgive myself.
Speaker 2: The question is gil you said he's not gonna change,
Speaker 2: but does he want to collect the rank of the
Speaker 2: remaining of that one hundred million dollars or does he
Speaker 2: want to go home and said I'm gonna stand no business.
Speaker 1: It looks like he's sending on business like he said
Speaker 1: the minutes right now. But you know what, it's principles.
Speaker 1: It seemed like to those type of guys, right has On,
Speaker 1: like he said it, he wouldn't be able to live
Speaker 1: with himself if he hurts someone that he's supposed to protect,
Speaker 1: right he. I think he's talking about the Jordan Poole
Speaker 1: situation in that I thought myself on protecting his teammates
Speaker 1: from other Wolves. And I think as a teammate, what
Speaker 1: what Draymond did to Jordan Poole, it made him seem
Speaker 1: like he was an outsider because there ain't no goddamn
Speaker 1: way he doing that to step for Clay Wayne is
Speaker 1: somewhere he tried that. You know, he ain't never played
Speaker 1: in the NBA game out. If he puts out, boy,
Speaker 1: he should have been in the third ward.
Speaker 4: So what happened with do we know what happened in
Speaker 4: turningy with that situation? Did he say something about him personally?
Speaker 3: Here?
Speaker 2: You you would have more information about that situation than
Speaker 2: I would.
Speaker 1: All Right, here's a story. They were in training camp, right,
Speaker 1: So they're in training camp and you know, Jordan Pool
Speaker 1: got the second second squad. So when they're in Japan,
Speaker 1: it's about an hour, hour and a half ride to
Speaker 1: practicing back. So Draymond already started to dre He already
Speaker 1: started the rough like you suck, your team suck. How
Speaker 1: can you be you make this kind of money, you
Speaker 1: can't even get a win, Right, He's going at he
Speaker 1: ain't gonna beat Steph Clay Ramon, you ain't gonna beat
Speaker 1: the start in five. So he's just going at him. Hey, hey,
Speaker 1: are you gonna right? He's just the whole training camp, right.
Speaker 1: So Kerr had to pull him aside and say, you
Speaker 1: got to stand up for yourself. Come on, stop letting
Speaker 1: Draymond treat just like a little girl out here. Stand
Speaker 1: up for yourself. Right, So you know Jordan pool like,
Speaker 1: oh okay. So they said, Jordan Poole was in the
Speaker 1: a and practice cooking. Boy, he was cooking shrimp and
Speaker 1: chicken that day. Right, Hey, he's talking and he's said,
Speaker 1: he's talking at Draymond. Hey, Draymond, you're gonna do something
Speaker 1: today or thirty? It's thirty gonna keep carrying you? Is
Speaker 1: he gonna like a backpack? He said, you an expense,
Speaker 1: You an expensive accessory, You like a Gucci Back to thirty,
Speaker 1: Draymond got the ball, hurt to lay up and popped
Speaker 1: and popped off to and and got the curry, I
Speaker 1: mean a curry, and Curry hit the three game right,
Speaker 1: everybody cheering, See there you go. Thirty saved you again.
Speaker 1: Uh huh, you got off thirty back That was that day.
Speaker 1: The next day is when it hit. Happened, So Draymond, So, Draymond,
Speaker 1: like most men do, We're gonna do some childs before shit,
Speaker 1: he going to We're gonna do some outside stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: seeing his kids. So Draymond coming to practice already disgruntled, right,
Speaker 1: Looney already seen that he was on a different vibe. Right,
Speaker 1: So Draymond's trying to find somebody to pick on. Who
Speaker 1: are you gonna pick on? Uh huh. But the problem
Speaker 1: is Pool already since this. So Pool, hey, I'm good,
Speaker 1: already won yesterday. Baby, I don't need all yeah, right right,
Speaker 1: So if you look at it, Pool, not even on
Speaker 1: the court. Pool ain't even on the court. Draymond scoring
Speaker 1: it where you at? Now, get come on the court,
Speaker 1: Come on on the court. Talk that mess to day
Speaker 1: and like I'm good, I'm good. And that's how that was.
Speaker 1: So it wasn't like Pool was going at him that day.
Speaker 1: The damage was done yesterday, the day before. And and
Speaker 1: that push that that that push right there got him hit.
Speaker 2: But you know, but the thing but o Jo, we
Speaker 2: you know, being in the locker room, that's a different
Speaker 2: type of Machinese mode because first of all, guys in
Speaker 2: the locker room aint gonna let you walk up on him,
Speaker 2: especially especially Gil. We can be disagreeing, man, if you
Speaker 2: f you, you ain't gonna do nothing. As long as
Speaker 2: you over there and I'm over here.
Speaker 3: We good good.
Speaker 2: But the moment I see you start to close the distance,
Speaker 2: I'm feeling some type of way. So now I'm getting
Speaker 2: in the mindset if he gets with him, I hey all,
Speaker 2: I'm thinking if he gets within arms, if he gets
Speaker 2: with it, I'm unloaded. That's the only thing think. No, sorry,
Speaker 2: no soil Oh, yeah, I'm teeing off. But if you,
Speaker 2: if we go, I'll show you. I can see he
Speaker 2: got the muscles. Come on, jo, No no, no, no
Speaker 2: no no. We arguing you over there. I'm over here
Speaker 2: as you arguing.
Speaker 1: We argue it still, and you start to close the distance,
Speaker 1: I'm never gonna let you get up on me.
Speaker 2: I'm never gonna let that happen. Gil, let that happening up.
Speaker 2: I'm feeling some type of way. So all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: now I start to feel a rush. Wow, y'all see
Speaker 2: that's that. That's y'all got that juice? No, the locker
Speaker 2: room better you better listen.
Speaker 4: You gotta know your intend has got to go up,
Speaker 4: especially even if sometimes even though it's a friend, even
Speaker 4: even if it's a teammate. When someone invades your space
Speaker 4: when you're in an argument, your antenn has already got
Speaker 4: to go up, and you got to be on your
Speaker 4: p's and q's. You got to, especially especially in that
Speaker 4: situation when somebody is showing any type of hostility to you,
Speaker 4: you know, and they close that dish is and they
Speaker 4: become and what I like to call.
Speaker 3: In arms reach or in arms. But it's go time,
Speaker 3: tell me time.
Speaker 1: Nay, no, we don't expect to get hit. I just
Speaker 1: I was at the strip club second on t with you. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: I don't care what kind of argument we got in
Speaker 1: baby use it. So if hey, let's keep it over there. Gill,
Speaker 1: you stay over there, I'll stay over there. He kill you,
Speaker 1: suck you. You ain't gonna do nothing right. We got
Speaker 1: to get a center. We got to put our our
Speaker 1: shoulders next to each other. We gotta no hell no,
Speaker 1: come on, that's third grade. Will you walking around pushing them?
Speaker 1: Were still on high school ship? That's third grade, Gill.
Speaker 1: Will you walk around the circle, do something, do something.
Speaker 1: We ain't trying to hit this, hit that. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: hit this. No, that is right here.
Speaker 3: We've done yeah, and you know what nobody walk up.
Speaker 4: Over the The funny thing about it is, you gotta
Speaker 4: you gotta like coaches, you gotta know your personnel. When
Speaker 4: it comes to arguing. You got to understand the people
Speaker 4: you're arguing with, and you.
Speaker 3: Know how they move. You already know how they move.
Speaker 4: And you know it makes certain people tick and there's
Speaker 4: certain there's certain people to argue with and you can
Speaker 4: get away with it, and there's certain people you know,
Speaker 4: if we get into it, I gotta be.
Speaker 3: I gotta stand on business.
Speaker 4: I gotta stand on if this is certain, if this
Speaker 4: individual get mad, you're a newer time it is.
Speaker 2: If a man tell you, Gil, if a man tell
Speaker 2: you to stop playing, just let that go, Just let
Speaker 2: it go, even even if you're bigger a he said, man,
Speaker 2: stop playing, let go.
Speaker 1: But like if you listen to Hassen, right, those enforcers
Speaker 1: like they are, they're not putting their hands on players.
Speaker 1: So we're not expecting that, Jordan, No, no, no, But see
Speaker 1: y'all that because Gil, I will tell you. See, if
Speaker 1: you're in the locker room and you get the argument
Speaker 1: and you let somebody close the difference, they're gonna hit
Speaker 1: you in your face or they gonna throw your hands
Speaker 1: so hard on your back. You're gonna say, let this
Speaker 1: man walk up on me.
Speaker 3: Like one of the others gonna happen.
Speaker 1: Gil, I'm telling you you you hitting me in the
Speaker 1: locker room. Guess what. I'm not playing no more. I'm
Speaker 1: taking my ball. I'm going home. Say call me at
Speaker 1: my house. Either he's off the team or I'm off
Speaker 1: the team.
Speaker 2: That's how Gil, Dude, I saw two dudes shoot to him,
Speaker 2: to of my teammates. They're on they're both on the defense,
Speaker 2: and they have been going back and forth and walked through.
Speaker 2: They just going back and forth, going back and forth,
Speaker 2: going back and forth. And uh, he was standing.
Speaker 1: He was standing in the locker and had an arm andy
Speaker 1: locker like this ere He said, yeah, you keep on.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. You ain't gonna do nothing. Dude
Speaker 2: ran over there, hit him. Did it cracked his head?
Speaker 2: What do you hit him with that helmet?
Speaker 1: Because he was standing, he was standing, he had he
Speaker 1: was standing in the lock like this ear. He was
Speaker 1: just standing like this ear. Mm yeah, okay, he just
Speaker 1: shakeing it. He shaked it, yeah, okay, yeah, okay, sure.
Speaker 2: And then his partner tried to jump in and then
Speaker 2: the other boys said, no, you don't want that.
Speaker 1: You don't want that. You don't want that problem.
Speaker 2: So you have to understand who like oh you're saying,
Speaker 2: you gotta understand your personnel because oh, Joe Burm, I
Speaker 2: told you, everybody don't play like you play.
Speaker 1: Nah, everybody don't play like you play. All that.
Speaker 2: I know who to play I know who to mess with,
Speaker 2: who the joke with? You know, Hey, come on, y'all,
Speaker 2: let that go today.
Speaker 1: Man. I ain't okay, Hey, man, I go, I go
Speaker 1: get right on. Somebody else. Get you gonna be ready
Speaker 1: to borrow because I got joke, just moved at a
Speaker 1: long gill. But you don't let nobody close the distance
Speaker 1: on your gill. But I've never and I'm the joke, sir,
Speaker 1: I'm the one that I don't take none serious in
Speaker 1: the locker room. I never felt I've never felt threatened
Speaker 1: by a teammate like I've seen fighting like our big
Speaker 1: man used to go at it right, And you know,
Speaker 1: obviously you know we were sitting there scheeting it on.
Speaker 1: But other than that, we're too We're it's only it's
Speaker 1: only it's only what fifteen of us, right, and most
Speaker 1: most of us is like we we go in groups
Speaker 1: and clicks. Yeah, our arguments don't really carry over to
Speaker 1: fighting like that, Like Hoopers is not like that, right,
Speaker 1: We don't. We don't really want to fight with you.
Speaker 1: We don't either can We don't even know if we
Speaker 1: can or not, like you know what I mean. We
Speaker 1: can go get and that's the thing, but we don't
Speaker 1: know if we can really throw a punch. And that's
Speaker 1: the thing. That's the thing I say.
Speaker 2: I tell him all the time, I don't know if
Speaker 2: I can fight, but you don't want to find out.
Speaker 1: Hey, I don't know, I don't, but don't you fight out?
Speaker 1: So hey, check this out so much.
Speaker 2: Parker says Kobe never spoke to him in two seasons
Speaker 2: as a Laker teammate. It was over if they asked
Speaker 2: him a question about Kobe. He said it was an
Speaker 2: overrated experience player with Kobe Bryant. He said he's tried
Speaker 2: to start a friendly conversation with Kobe about a football
Speaker 2: game the previous night and Kobe said, you can't talk
Speaker 2: to me. You need more accolades under your belt before
Speaker 2: you talk to me. Here talking about how y'all get done?
Speaker 2: Said we don't call him. We call WILLIAMMS. Parker over here.
Speaker 1: William Kobe could get a man conversation. He man, how
Speaker 1: you do? Man? Looks Smush should be happy. Kobe even
Speaker 1: allowed him to start. The man didn't start before Kobe.
Speaker 1: He was out of the league after Kobe. That's much, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the one I gave him sixty two Yet no, no,
Speaker 1: he lucky. Kobe even said those words to him. You
Speaker 1: just can't be talking to Coche Bryant old lady, oh Joe. See,
Speaker 1: that's what we different because we thought everybody to kure him.
Speaker 1: The squad got it, don't even matter.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Kobe, Kobe was different, man, he was built different.
Speaker 4: You could just you can tell when I heard when
Speaker 4: I heard the story about what Smush said, I can
Speaker 4: see that. I can see Kobe being the type. You know,
Speaker 4: you ain't even done nothing yet, you ain't earned the
Speaker 4: right to even speak to me. In the fact that
Speaker 4: they had this the cubicle right next to each other,
Speaker 4: I can imagine Kobe not really speaking to him at all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's all, but you should be Yeah, he gonna
Speaker 1: be offended. True story. Lamar Odom called cold and say hey, Cole, Hey,
Speaker 1: where's the what's the name party tonight. We're supposed to
Speaker 1: be going to order the event. They're supposed to do
Speaker 1: some charity event. The first thing Kobe asked, Hey, how'd
Speaker 1: you get this number? How you get this number? Right?
Speaker 1: And he said, oh, what's the name? What's the name?
Speaker 1: Gave it to me, hung up, called that person you're fired.
Speaker 1: Don't ever give my number out without asking me first click,
Speaker 1: then called back, Hey, yeah, we're supposed to go to
Speaker 1: there round blah blah blah. That's the time he was off.
Speaker 3: Listen, Kobe stood on business on and off the court.
Speaker 1: Hey, when I did that. The next day I went
Speaker 1: to the I went to our team and hey, man, listen,
Speaker 1: if you do not make five million dollars or more,
Speaker 1: you can't talk to me. You can talk to the
Speaker 1: person who make five to five can talk to me,
Speaker 1: But if you make under five, don't talk to me directly. Hey.
Speaker 2: But hey, hey, oh Joe, you know NFL players, they
Speaker 2: had them kind of contract.
Speaker 1: But we've been there. What't a whole lot of five
Speaker 1: million dollar playoffs? Especially when I played basically the quarterback
Speaker 1: with all the one making that cint of breath. Oh man, man,
Speaker 1: how you go talk about don't talking to you unless
Speaker 1: you make five mines. I got, I got that, I
Speaker 1: got I got that high in tech. Man. I'm sorry, y'all.
Speaker 1: Here we go. Good, I got the track and I
Speaker 1: mean I got there. You go, love life. Let's talk
Speaker 1: about Lucas.
Speaker 2: Lucas said he met his wife when she was eleven
Speaker 2: years old, who just had They just had a child together,
Speaker 2: he says, but there's no basketball talk.
Speaker 1: Allowed when he's home. Hey, oh, you're gonna have to
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to rephrase that. You're gonna have to
Speaker 1: say when they were eleven, because when you say he
Speaker 1: met when she was eleven, people are gonna they were eleven.
Speaker 1: They were both left. Okay, okay, they were both eleven.
Speaker 1: I mean no basketball talk. I mean that's a good thing, man, right.
Speaker 1: You know, you when you're at home, you're trying to
Speaker 1: be home right, and if it works for them, that's amazing. Ojo,
Speaker 1: what do you say all the time? May a whatever
Speaker 1: works for you and your man? R. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Every everybody's different.
Speaker 4: You know, they have a set of rules when it
Speaker 4: comes to marriage, and everybody tries to follow that specific
Speaker 4: set of rules and it's not gonna work.
Speaker 3: Unless you do what you got to do, what works
Speaker 3: for you.
Speaker 4: And obviously listen Luca playing basketball twenty four seven, and
Speaker 4: obviously for us, for athletes in general, when you get home,
Speaker 4: that's your piece, that's your outlet away from whatever your
Speaker 4: craft may be or whatever job you may have. And
Speaker 4: when you go home, that ain't what you want to do.
Speaker 4: That ain't what you want to hear about, because you
Speaker 4: got to deal with it all the time.
Speaker 1: With damn, how would your dad work? Baby? Don't have
Speaker 1: to be about my day?
Speaker 2: God, I mean, come on home, o with yoae, I
Speaker 2: mean we're real, come home, you ask real, hey, real,
Speaker 2: how your day was? I mean to tell you. I
Speaker 2: know you had, I know you want them a couple
Speaker 2: of tours. Today you're telling her how many houses you said?
Speaker 2: You imagine rel saying, oh baby, when you come home,
Speaker 2: don't ask me nothing about my day. Don't ask me
Speaker 2: nothing about no real estate, about no houses, or about nothing.
Speaker 1: How you gonna feel.
Speaker 4: Your Yeah, I ain't gonna feel bad, because it depends
Speaker 4: how you feel. Because the stresses that might come with
Speaker 4: what she got to do. I don't want a part
Speaker 4: of that. And then when she come home, coming home
Speaker 4: is your sense of peace. That's your outlet away from
Speaker 4: all the bullshit. If you play football, if you play basketball,
Speaker 4: if you play any sport, you know, when you go home,
Speaker 4: especially if you're married, you want your wife and your
Speaker 4: home to be your safe haven and you don't want
Speaker 4: to come home to no bullshit.
Speaker 3: When you outside of the work, once you outside of
Speaker 3: the work for us.
Speaker 1: Okay, so did you have to set those rules before
Speaker 1: you Guys talked about that on your life, you know, like, hey,
Speaker 1: when we get home, let's whatever we got going on,
Speaker 1: let's drop outside. This is just us now.
Speaker 4: I't even have to say. You can tell you know
Speaker 4: you got you got to know your people. You know
Speaker 4: your lady based on the energy when she come in
Speaker 4: the house, you already know what time it is. You
Speaker 4: know something's already bothered her, that has that that has
Speaker 4: to do it work.
Speaker 3: No, you already know, you already know it.
Speaker 4: Listen, she could reel, can start a sentence, and I
Speaker 4: can finish it before she even say anything. So you
Speaker 4: already know you know it work. Ain't gonna have it
Speaker 4: should So I'm gonna take a different approach. I'm gonna
Speaker 4: take a different angle and make sure I engage in conversation,
Speaker 4: but it not having to do it work.
Speaker 1: Okay, Hey, I get to be a lady. She come
Speaker 1: over with work and she told me I ain't feeling good.
Speaker 1: She gonna get a meme. Will come on a cause
Speaker 1: you got something on your mind. I'm gonna take you
Speaker 1: that your mind. Then all of a sudden, she said,
Speaker 1: you know what, baby, I just had the best day.
Speaker 1: You know what, that's what you gotta do. That's what
Speaker 1: you gotta do with you see with y'all young boys,
Speaker 1: y'all need to listen to them on boys. Gil get
Speaker 1: y'all some game. Oh yeah, I got like I got
Speaker 1: like salmon, so you know, show you can staying with that. Well,
Speaker 1: I ain't even got no type of problems. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Mariah, Mariah Mills, we all know who she was. She's
Speaker 2: the of young lady that uh we're dealing with Zion
Speaker 2: Williamson that put all of his business in the streets.
Speaker 2: And she resurfaced and said she had some advice from Zion.
Speaker 2: Since you want to you, since you want to send
Speaker 2: your publicist to talk s H I T about me
Speaker 2: in every freaking week, how about you get on a
Speaker 2: treadmill Speed three Level twelve maybe you should lose some
Speaker 2: weight and then go for it like an hour two second.
Speaker 2: How aby, stop drinking sodas free? How about practice doing
Speaker 2: three pointers? Everybody tried to tie to send you dunk
Speaker 2: all freaking day. Learn another move. It's getting it's getting
Speaker 2: bored and tired. You're tired and boring, just like we were, literally,
Speaker 2: just like you were in bed.
Speaker 1: Damn.
Speaker 3: She came like that.
Speaker 1: A you know what, that might be the girl that
Speaker 1: he probably really need. Nah. Hell nah, Now you don't
Speaker 1: put my business on in the street. Hell now I
Speaker 1: don't need you. But think about the jabs, right, put
Speaker 1: it on speed three? Yeah, get rid of She know him, yes, better,
Speaker 1: So that means most likely she was the one that
Speaker 1: was trying to keep him healthy. Nah. But she blew
Speaker 1: up the spot. Now, yeah, I would blow up the
Speaker 1: spot too. You got somebody else, Hey, I'm over here
Speaker 1: with you, fat ass, and then you over here getting
Speaker 1: some ball. Nah. He but guess what she's showing them wires.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna keep my mind shut because probably to keep
Speaker 2: me from keeping putting my business in the street. He
Speaker 2: gonna keep them things coming because he don't want he
Speaker 2: already got one. He don't want this other business in
Speaker 2: the street. So guess what he gonna keep me on
Speaker 2: the hush You know, hush money. That hush money good,
Speaker 2: that hush money come in hand to give him want
Speaker 2: with these women today. Man, they don't know.
Speaker 1: Hush money is the best money you out need to
Speaker 1: pay you no more. Thank you. Once you the fear,
Speaker 1: the fear of you telling, is what makes me write
Speaker 1: the check. Once you tell. I'm good.
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, I can figure this got told. We talked
Speaker 4: about that the other day. Now, we just talked about
Speaker 4: that other day. Everybody is loyal. Everybody is on their
Speaker 4: p's and q's. Everybody is loyal until the situation is
Speaker 4: no longer beneficial. And then you will see someone true
Speaker 4: colors come out. Yeah, because the opportunity that presents itself
Speaker 4: no longer beneficial.
Speaker 1: So I'm.
Speaker 2: Oh, Joe, Well you talking to the black male king.
Speaker 2: When I was a kid, because I showed you, I
Speaker 2: drop a dime on them. I tell on my sister,
Speaker 2: my aunts, my brother. They had to pay me dollar
Speaker 2: dollar to keep this information hush or I would tell
Speaker 2: Papa y'all school, He school Papa two dollars. Hey, I
Speaker 2: know you told us to go down to derreck queen.
Speaker 2: But we made a stop. We stopped off at such
Speaker 2: and such. Pay up by you snitch. You're a snitchy.
Speaker 1: You think I wasn't what I was.
Speaker 4: Hey boy, hey, hey, oh yo, we.
Speaker 1: Both don't have to give stitches because I can't do it.
Speaker 1: I had Barney Porto. I have Barney Porto speed die.
Speaker 1: They want to see Papa. Damn, I tell it. I
Speaker 1: tell Granted to my Hey, my sister made me mad
Speaker 1: one time. I told Granted, Uh Libby Chick's bank out
Speaker 1: of school. They wear the states burn. Guess what money
Speaker 1: started flowing again? You started flowing. Money started flowing. Hey, hey, listen,
Speaker 1: I tell it. Hey, the Anthony man, listen. I wish
Speaker 1: I could talk to some of these ladies before. Ladies, listen.
Speaker 1: If you're gonna, if you're gonna do it, do it
Speaker 1: right right. You gotta understand when you got somebody by
Speaker 1: the the cohone's Yes, I was hurt. I need one
Speaker 1: hundred thousand right now when I get in my car,
Speaker 1: I need another one hundred thousand when I get to
Speaker 1: the doctor, another one hundred thousand when it gets the piled.
Speaker 5: I need another one hundred thousand for me to put
Speaker 5: it in my mouth.
Speaker 1: I need another hundred thousand, Dad, I just got your
Speaker 1: five hundred thousand, and you know what he gonna do? Okay,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, okay, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: They're gonna have to do the pill gill because I
Speaker 2: don't think they go into the chop shop anymore. No, no, no, no, yeah,
Speaker 2: the pie. Oh no, that's that's that's that's true. Traumatic
Speaker 2: they ain't doing that the more so you gotta give up.
Speaker 2: You got to give them that peel. I don't know
Speaker 2: what's one with these new NBA. Well, we got them
Speaker 2: on the road. We got them in a little bag
Speaker 2: with us.
Speaker 3: Oh you got them in the yo.
Speaker 1: Y'all got him in the back playing d oh yeah,
Speaker 1: fifty dollars. Yeah yeah, those in the bag with us.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's a throw Max. You know, we go
Speaker 1: to Miami. Probably had a little bit too much. Probably
Speaker 1: got a clean your system before you go back to
Speaker 1: the girl. Oh yeah, all day. You see what the
Speaker 1: NBA players got like six some baby Mahama's man. Hey,
Speaker 1: we ain't know for y'all.
Speaker 3: Y'all y'all living living, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Babe, yeah, yeah, hey, I'm I'm you know what look here, man,
Speaker 1: I'm just glad there was no social media. Oh yo,
Speaker 1: we might have been we might have been bad off yo.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I call I caught social media on the back end.
Speaker 3: But I wasn't bad that.
Speaker 4: I think nobody really, nobody was really giving me no opportunity.
Speaker 4: You know, I was funny looking. I was funny looking
Speaker 4: while I was playing, So I ain't have to deal
Speaker 4: with none of that.
Speaker 2: But but o, yo, think about with the social think
Speaker 2: about the access that social media opened up. Because remember
Speaker 2: when you first got into the league. In order for
Speaker 2: you to know somebody was bad in Miami, you had
Speaker 2: to actually be there, be there. Ort to know somebody
Speaker 2: was bad in California, you had to actually be in La.
Speaker 2: Now all you got to do is just go to
Speaker 2: your exploring pay. Oh you in Colombia. Oh you in Brazil.
Speaker 2: Oh you in l A, You in Miami, You in Atlanta,
Speaker 2: You in New York Philly.
Speaker 5: Oh now we have Black Black Black Men's magazine. Yeah,
Speaker 5: we get the booking number, Go ahead, book them.
Speaker 1: For a party. Yeah, I'm about to be a shot.
Speaker 1: I got to ten down party girl.
Speaker 2: But you have to but also understand the type of
Speaker 2: woman that that's gonna be accessible to you. If a
Speaker 2: woman got a job, she's like, well, damn, I ain't
Speaker 2: gonna be able to take our work. Now, are you
Speaker 2: gonna pay for the day she missed? Yes, Or she's
Speaker 2: a plumber that works, has her own schedule. She has
Speaker 2: her own schedule, that's easy. What type of women are
Speaker 2: y'all talking about?
Speaker 1: The kind the kind that they be talking them o
Speaker 1: f's now, all we know is we know we know
Speaker 1: uh Miami Miami cinnamon spice. We only know strimmers because
Speaker 1: that's y'all got a different time schedule than us. See,
Speaker 1: we're done practicing about noon, one o'clock, right.
Speaker 3: Y'all, y'all done, y'all done that early.
Speaker 1: Man, we started practice at eleven. I better be out
Speaker 1: of that gym bout one right. So think about think
Speaker 1: about the women that are are available to us. None
Speaker 1: not no ones that have careers. Right. So you got
Speaker 1: strippers that's going in there, you know, going to get
Speaker 1: their little outfice for the night. By the time you
Speaker 1: know the real women. So you wear that over here
Speaker 1: to meet with that outfit you go wear tonight, wear
Speaker 1: that over here to meat. So we only dealing with slumlords.
Speaker 1: We ain't dealing with no educated women. No, no, we
Speaker 1: they at work when we when we're playing.
Speaker 3: Okay, I got it.
Speaker 1: And by the time by the time they off work,
Speaker 1: we probably at work playing before the game. Then then
Speaker 1: we're going to the club or the strip club. They
Speaker 1: getting they're going to sleep ready for for work in
Speaker 1: the morning. So we don't get we don't get those women. Nah,
Speaker 1: we know band being them. Yeah, that's all ho cod
Speaker 1: coming here the stage, coming to stage number two. It's cold,
Speaker 1: and we know how you look by your name if
Speaker 1: you didn't have a name like days yet or Miami
Speaker 1: or no, that's so we're looking at. But who name
Speaker 1: is das ye in here de jall? Who Miami? Yeah yeah, London?
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, you did co Coo? Honey?
Speaker 2: Now no, you gotta have a dam You got a
Speaker 2: name like co Coo. You got a name like Honey,
Speaker 2: You got a name like Cinema. Yeah yeah, but say
Speaker 2: everybody Mercedes, Nah, you should have called yourself.
Speaker 1: You go you not No Mercedes a Pinto. Hell No,
Speaker 1: I don't know where you get that. Take that name
Speaker 1: for her. I don't know who gave it to it,
Speaker 1: But she don't need to have that one. Uh huh.
Speaker 1: More like a L one.
Speaker 2: Fifty your name l one fifty. Rod ain't Sam. He said, Gil,
Speaker 2: that Lebron's wife really break down film with him. Yeah
Speaker 2: that's the truth.
Speaker 1: Listen, that's the true story, man, when I went over
Speaker 1: Lebron's house. I don't know if you heard the I
Speaker 1: think I think Richie Paul was on JJ's podcast when
Speaker 1: he was talking about this big gambling game we did. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like when we were doing the playoffs, Lebron wasn't gambling.
Speaker 1: He was with him in Savannah, was watching film breaking
Speaker 1: down tape on us. And you know, I'm like looking like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: that shit ain't gonna work because I don't like that
Speaker 1: play right, But the fact that that's what they were
Speaker 1: doing at a young age, because I went to coach like, man, hey,
Speaker 1: that's like a machine about to play against We were
Speaker 1: better than them. He was smarter than us. Wow, he
Speaker 1: was better prepared at an early ege. No one, I didn't.
Speaker 1: He outsmarted us in that series. He was just smarter
Speaker 1: than all of us. We took we took his his
Speaker 1: gift for granted, we knew the athleticism. We didn't know
Speaker 1: he was tactical, are you, Gil? You know, look chosen
Speaker 1: one on the cover Sports Illustrated. We know the three
Speaker 1: straight the championships in high school? Is he more or
Speaker 1: exactly what you thought he would be? Way more? Right?
Speaker 1: I mean I didn't. I didn't. I didn't think that.
Speaker 1: I remember my dad said, hey, you better get you
Speaker 1: better get ready. This summer. There's a kid coming in
Speaker 1: by the name Lebron James. He's like a hurricane. Ain't
Speaker 1: nobody care about no high school kid coming in. And
Speaker 1: then the first time I seen him, I was like,
Speaker 1: all right, okay, the athletic, the athleticism was different. And
Speaker 1: then just you know, being on the East Coast playing
Speaker 1: against him, I can just see it clicking faster and fast.
Speaker 1: So he had to guard me his first years or
Speaker 1: I was giving him that business, but you can see
Speaker 1: it like, oh man, by the time he's twenty, oh,
Speaker 1: we're gonna be in trouble. And this part I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't calculate. But watching him break down film and
Speaker 1: then watching them, I was like, oh, okay, he's gonna
Speaker 1: be something. The record word. But I just said, you
Speaker 1: didn't see You didn't see that he was gonna take
Speaker 1: care of himself and be exactly what he is today
Speaker 1: if someone said they lion, They're they're lying to you.
Speaker 2: For him to be able to do what he does,
Speaker 2: because he missed a lot of the Broni's and Bryce
Speaker 2: and Zouri, he missed a lot of that because he
Speaker 2: needs to get his rest, he needs to train, he
Speaker 2: needs to to to to have the physio and to
Speaker 2: make sure everything and he's at the gym getting up
Speaker 2: those shots.
Speaker 1: How important is it to have someone in your life that.
Speaker 2: Understands you, like Savannah understands Braun and not say I
Speaker 2: need some help with the kids.
Speaker 1: I've been there all day with the kids. Now that's
Speaker 1: your turn now. Oh no, no, no, that's exactly what
Speaker 1: the other ninety nine point nine percent of us get.
Speaker 1: I beg you all day with the kids here, right.
Speaker 1: So the fact that that they've been there from the beginning,
Speaker 1: the whole team, Maverick, it's the same group from day one.
Speaker 1: They all knew the objective and that ejective be better
Speaker 1: if it was be better than Michael Jordan. They all
Speaker 1: did they part, right, So we when we look and
Speaker 1: say what has he sacrificed, and we look at Bronnie
Speaker 1: and the family he sacrificed being with his kids right now,
Speaker 1: it's twenty years, twenty one one, twenty one years, So
Speaker 1: that means he didn't get to really be hands on
Speaker 1: with Bronnie. I was Bronnie's first trainer. Hey, give what
Speaker 1: you think? What you look like? Hey, you know I'm
Speaker 1: nervous for him, you know, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: because he's not there to really instill what he can
Speaker 1: an end to him, right, It's been from a distances.
Speaker 1: That's what he sacrificed. Right. So the fact that you know,
Speaker 1: a Savannah has really gotten these boys to where they
Speaker 1: are just shows you what type of stability he's had
Speaker 1: this whole time.
Speaker 2: It's special because she's made it abundantly clear. She said,
Speaker 2: like some people want to start a business, and some
Speaker 2: people want to do this. She says, all I wanted
Speaker 2: to be with a wife and raise a family. So
Speaker 2: that means she gave up anything that she could possibly
Speaker 2: want to be outside of being a wife and raising
Speaker 2: a family to sacrifice because she knew what he wanted.
Speaker 2: I mean, think about somebody giving up them. You know,
Speaker 2: that's like a mother and a father sacrificing for their child.
Speaker 2: But she sacrifices sacrifice.
Speaker 1: Maybe what she wanted or what she could have achieved.
Speaker 1: So you know what, maybe you got I got them
Speaker 1: you Hey, you need I got this.
Speaker 2: I'm in the carpool. I'm gonna pick him up. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna be there when they look up in the stands,
Speaker 2: they're gonna see one of us. It's probably gonna be me,
Speaker 2: because I want you to be the best that you
Speaker 2: absolutely can possibly be. Now it gets to a point, Savannah,
Speaker 2: what do I absolutely have to be there for Bridie's
Speaker 2: first game considering what he went through this summer, the
Speaker 2: cardiac arrest, we don't know if he if and when
Speaker 2: he'll ever play again. Or I can't miss that under
Speaker 2: no circumstances. All Star Game Game one, I can't miss.
Speaker 2: I cannot miss that because I don't know. You don't
Speaker 2: get an opportunity to do the first again, to see
Speaker 2: your see your oldest play his first collegiate game. So
Speaker 2: now you understand, because remember, oh Joe, you and yeah,
Speaker 2: you know this. There's a great sacrifice to be the
Speaker 2: greater the the greater the person, the greater the sacrifices
Speaker 2: that they've made, and there is no balance for greatness.
Speaker 2: Anybody tell you there is the line, Go ask Vanessa,
Speaker 2: go go ask what need George, George's first wife, Go
Speaker 2: ask the greats.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the I ain't talking about you know,
Speaker 1: look there there there's a lot of good players. That's
Speaker 1: a grief. But I'm talking about this, this, this, this this,
Speaker 1: theyramid ask them, ask them. It's the one thing that
Speaker 1: I think as men, especially athletes, when we look at
Speaker 1: you know, Lebron James and the Kobe's Chris Paul, that
Speaker 1: that woman that's that understands them to a t, right,
Speaker 1: that that is the other half of them. It's an envy.
Speaker 1: Like you started looking around at the girls you chose, Like, man,
Speaker 1: what was I looking at? Like you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like it's like what was I looking at? What was
Speaker 1: I chasing? Because what I was chasen wasn't it? This
Speaker 1: is what I've wanted, Like my career would have been
Speaker 1: better if I had that, right, Like you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like if I had some guidance, some understanding, Right, Alfred,
Speaker 1: not a Robin. I don't need someone else there trying
Speaker 1: to be a hero with me, Alfred A everything is
Speaker 1: prepared for you to go be great? Right, come back hurt.
Speaker 1: I'll refix you going out there and save it again.
Speaker 1: That's what we're looking for. And I think that's what
Speaker 1: we when we sit here chasing. We're chasing looking for
Speaker 1: that and we don't know what it looks like. But
Speaker 1: when we do get it, we like, hey, hey, what's
Speaker 1: that it? How you doing? Cook and cookie and magic? Now?
Speaker 2: I don't know, Hey, how many women you think would
Speaker 2: have rolled out given the same circumstances, O jo She.
Speaker 3: Take it, take a special one, yeah, going going back.
Speaker 1: Out there with them on thing that that you would
Speaker 1: lay in, that that you would.
Speaker 3: Lay Yeah, a special one to take a special one.
Speaker 2: Look at Peyon Manning, Look at pay Manning. Now you know,
Speaker 2: O Joe, you know firsthand how much Peyton time he
Speaker 2: put in film study Brady until she's like, you know what,
Speaker 2: damn it, man, you've been promising me for the last
Speaker 2: seven eight years.
Speaker 1: Hang it up. Yeah, man, we got it. You ain't
Speaker 1: gonna stop. And I just can't.
Speaker 2: I just can't do it anymore. She went, She went
Speaker 2: as long as she could. Obviously there they're things there,
Speaker 2: you know, But again, she had her own career. You
Speaker 2: got to realize she got more money than he does. Now,
Speaker 2: maybe she's like, well a lot of some of the
Speaker 2: things I did.
Speaker 1: Stop, I did sacrifice for you, for the you know,
Speaker 1: to start a family, to raise the family. But Bayden,
Speaker 1: Bayden's uh boom, She's like, nah, have that man, Bret Brady,
Speaker 1: God that man. See see men, Brady's selfish man. That
Speaker 1: white privilege right there. Hell yeah, you gotta be selfish
Speaker 1: to be great. All of broke girls out and dated.
Speaker 1: You're telling me someone makes more than me, and I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna stop. I'm done, take my chic have them.
Speaker 1: What are you talking to? Excuse me, Gill.
Speaker 2: You suffering the same thing that I suffered because I
Speaker 2: didn't want the girl that wanted me.
Speaker 1: I wanted the girl. And so when you choose somebody
Speaker 1: to choose the girl that want you, not the girl
Speaker 1: you want, because the girl that you want ain't gonna
Speaker 1: be the ain't gonna be the one. Yeah no, that's fact.
Speaker 1: You have to you have to live. You have to
Speaker 1: live it. You have to live and learn. And when
Speaker 1: you when you look, man, you you you don't know
Speaker 1: any better. You you you not even you not even.
Speaker 2: Thinking at that point in time, You're like, man, I
Speaker 2: should have married this one, I should have had this
Speaker 2: in my college and then that didn't work out, or
Speaker 2: somebody because we all say this, I'm gonna get somebody
Speaker 2: that knows that knew me would I didn't have anything.
Speaker 2: I had this old raggedy car. I didn't have no
Speaker 2: indoor plumbing, and they know what, they know what it's like,
Speaker 2: the sacrifice and be there for me. Then if that
Speaker 2: doesn't work, I give then where do we go? It's
Speaker 2: because the one that we thought, uh, you know, it's like,
Speaker 2: oh Joe, it's like, well, you know, if the hall,
Speaker 2: if the high school or the college sweetheart doesn't work, well,
Speaker 2: damn even if you even if you're the seventh round
Speaker 2: that if you're on an NFL team, you in the NFL.
Speaker 1: It ain't like you know, I'm saying, hey, you're in
Speaker 1: the NFL.
Speaker 2: It's not like you know, well, you know, you work
Speaker 2: around the building. You actually in the league. So whether
Speaker 2: you a seventh round pick or a first round pick, hey.
Speaker 1: Are you that shot to play for the Broncos. Now
Speaker 1: it's a whole it's a whole different story. Too late now, Joe, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's hard.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, Oh Joe, what type of
Speaker 2: Christmas gift should you expect from your girlfriend when you're rich,
Speaker 2: and what should what type of gift should she expect
Speaker 2: from you?
Speaker 4: Let me see what type of gifts should I expect? First,
Speaker 4: I expect a gift. I expect her to give me
Speaker 4: a gift. Hold on, all right, this is this is
Speaker 4: the key. I expect her to give me a gift
Speaker 4: with her money, not money, I've given her right, so
Speaker 4: I expect a gift from her money.
Speaker 1: And for me, what I like.
Speaker 4: The things I like is I'm very simple. I'm very simple,
Speaker 4: especially on Christmas a day like that. Uh give me,
Speaker 4: give me, give me shades.
Speaker 3: You know, I love shades. I love me some shades.
Speaker 4: You can never have enough socks, tank tops and white
Speaker 4: tea's and I gotta.
Speaker 3: I love Dickies.
Speaker 4: And I'm throwing this out there now. She probably already
Speaker 4: knows I want Dickies. I like Dickies. Get me Dickies
Speaker 4: and I'm good.
Speaker 1: Hell, it sounds like you going to prison. You want up.
Speaker 3: That's just that's just that's that's that's dickie. Yeah, that's
Speaker 3: that's what I like.
Speaker 1: To Remember.
Speaker 3: I'm from Miami. Now I'm for Miami.
Speaker 1: So that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I mean, Dicky Dicky's is all right, that's that's that's
Speaker 4: that's to go to. If you if you're just relaxing,
Speaker 4: you're going, you're going somewhere. You're throwing a pair of dickies.
Speaker 2: That's dickies, white tea tank top. Yeah, like you about
Speaker 2: to do it, like you're about to do with dme,
Speaker 2: sluss and swamp me. I tell you what, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: put some ramin on your books for you. Make sure
Speaker 2: you straight.
Speaker 3: I ain't going. I ain't going nowhere. I ain't going nowhere.
Speaker 1: Okay, I have that question. What type of gift should
Speaker 1: she expect from you? Oh?
Speaker 4: She you know, I cast him his I cast him
Speaker 4: hints throughout the year. Ye, I cast him hens throughout
Speaker 4: the year. You know they've seen your picture. Or you
Speaker 4: got to pay attention to something she will say while
Speaker 4: we're out somewhere, or she appointed something while we're in
Speaker 4: the mall.
Speaker 1: Yeah like that? You like? Oh you like this? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I turned to you did clearly you like it. You're right.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't want to.
Speaker 4: I want to say nothing because she might be in
Speaker 4: the chat. But I'm locked in. I'm ready for I'm lying,
Speaker 4: I'm ready for the twenty five.
Speaker 1: What do I expect? Man, I'm a man. Look here, man,
Speaker 1: this junk.
Speaker 3: Whoa whoa wait wait wait wait, come on, bring it back,
Speaker 3: bring it, bring it back in. How are you going
Speaker 3: to expect something? And who are you expecting it from?
Speaker 3: Because I thought you were single?
Speaker 1: No, I thought I thought you.
Speaker 3: I thought you was in the portal.
Speaker 1: I'm a free agent. Okay, you know I'm about to
Speaker 1: take a few visits, though, I said, But what would
Speaker 1: I expect?
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, I may expecting less than you, O Joe.
Speaker 2: I just want to just hey, just give me a
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, they don't give me a card? I want
Speaker 2: a card?
Speaker 3: Hell on cards hell nah, he on.
Speaker 4: No, for all I've been, all I've been doing the
Speaker 4: past eleven months, walking with a.
Speaker 1: Car, we were done.
Speaker 2: I promise, I promise you whatever she whatever she gives me,
Speaker 2: is not gonna be the equivalent of what she's gotten
Speaker 2: ass deleven months in twenty four days, right, I promise
Speaker 2: you that. Now what I have gotten diamond roll legs,
Speaker 2: and uh no i've gotten them.
Speaker 1: I hadn't received diamond roll legs big you know, big
Speaker 1: diamond their rings, per sis, I mean whatever. A lot
Speaker 1: of time they say I want the cash, Okay, no problem,
Speaker 1: because I would prefer to give someone cash because I
Speaker 1: want them to.
Speaker 2: Get exactly what they want. I like that because I
Speaker 2: nothing makes me feel worse that. And you know when
Speaker 2: you've gotten a.
Speaker 1: Gift that they don't really like.
Speaker 3: That happened before. Yeah you got you got a woman
Speaker 3: a gift and she didn't like it.
Speaker 1: Yeah she didn't say she did. She didn't say she didn't.
Speaker 3: You could tell her body language, you can tell yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: what was it?
Speaker 1: I don't even want to say.
Speaker 3: Say said said. We ain't gonna laugh, No, it was
Speaker 3: no hell no, ship boy.
Speaker 1: We got a gustling up about y'all about to give
Speaker 1: y'all forget. I'm in a loud chat and I'm loud.
Speaker 1: I'm about to start cuddling up a store. But let
Speaker 1: me just say, I've spent fifteen bands on it. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, oh hell man, I'm gone. Oh what spend
Speaker 1: fifteen bands on it?
Speaker 4: She got fifteen thousand and she had the nerve to
Speaker 4: like it. You know it's all good ojo oh no, no,
Speaker 4: no boy, you know woke me up now, I'm up.
Speaker 1: Now that woke me up.
Speaker 3: So ungrateful unnellyfish.
Speaker 1: Anybody that's ever dealt with me or tell you that's
Speaker 1: my pet peeve number one. I hate ungratefulness. I hate it.
Speaker 1: I hate it.
Speaker 2: So that's why that's broke. That's why, that's why I
Speaker 2: stayed a little while longer. It wasn't your day, Nazi.
Speaker 3: The devil is a lie.
Speaker 1: That's the problem. That's the problem because we naturally judge.
Speaker 1: When we say we're not gonna judge you, we're judging you.
Speaker 1: If I'm spending fifteen thirty thousand on you and you
Speaker 1: getting me a card, I mentally have put you in
Speaker 1: a whole different category, right because I'm making you feel
Speaker 1: special if you don't have no money, make me feel special,
Speaker 1: like fruit loops from scratch. Do something to make me
Speaker 1: feel special, right right, Like give me a car.
Speaker 2: Do something that you myself. Hey, your call me, your
Speaker 2: call be say he where where you at? I'm in
Speaker 2: the back seat, Okay, I'm hold away.
Speaker 1: That that good for me? I ought you, I'm good.
Speaker 1: I see that's the fact.
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, See the difference between men and women. If
Speaker 2: a man tell you you ain't gonna if I tell
Speaker 2: you you ain't got to get me nothing and you
Speaker 2: don't get me anything. I mean exactly what I say.
Speaker 2: If a woman tell you ain't got to get up something,
Speaker 2: don't you bring your ass at the house without getting
Speaker 2: out on the bay or a cris bus about man,
Speaker 2: you you're asking for a fight.
Speaker 1: Now. If I say, don't give me something, get me something,
Speaker 1: because the other girls is getting me something, and I'm
Speaker 1: going I'm judging you. Got hey, I don't even I
Speaker 1: let them know this competition always. I treat relationships like
Speaker 1: the NBA. Hey, they can always be us up. Hey,
Speaker 1: we stopping over here, So we something. I'm backing like
Speaker 1: I'm twenty years old. We something.
Speaker 2: You got franch Okay, you got franchise. You got a
Speaker 2: max player, uh huh face of the team. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: then you got you know some au dealery players have we.
Speaker 1: Got some role players? You know they come in for
Speaker 1: special Yeah, come in play some D They got some three.
Speaker 3: And D Yeah, old Joe, Yeah, I can't yeah that that.
Speaker 1: You don't do this no more. I gotta do it
Speaker 1: for us.
Speaker 3: I never was able to do it because that comes
Speaker 3: with a price, and you gotta pay to play.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got that that kind of break deal. Hey,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pay to play all day? Are you?
Speaker 3: Are you better than me?
Speaker 1: With you? What you what you're paying for?
Speaker 4: I can get for free. So I'm gonna go ahead
Speaker 4: and save a little. I'm gonna save a little change.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yo, I want the head with it. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't like the headache that comes with free. Right? Right?
Speaker 1: So you so you basically playing Gill. You're paying. You're
Speaker 1: paying for no problems, no headaches, no questions. It is
Speaker 1: what you say.
Speaker 2: You understand your role, you understand why you brought on
Speaker 2: the team. Play your role, or I'll find someone else
Speaker 2: to feel it.
Speaker 1: Opt Listen, I act exactly like no chill, right, you
Speaker 1: can get replaced if you argue, there's someone who don't.
Speaker 1: So why am I messing with your your mess? Right?
Speaker 1: If I'm paying your rent, I'm paying her rent. You
Speaker 1: argue she don't. Goodbye? Hmmm, yes that much? See hey, Joe,
Speaker 1: see that why we can't complete with the mover? Talk
Speaker 1: about I can't play. I can't play multiple rints. I
Speaker 1: can pay two peper rents minding one of us, I
Speaker 1: can't pay two, three, four, five? Oh no, hey, that's it?
Speaker 4: Did they played by different set of rules and it's
Speaker 4: a different game, Ojo.
Speaker 1: Before we go in for O Yo, I will say
Speaker 1: we did it.
Speaker 2: We've officially hit five hundred thousand subs halfway to a
Speaker 2: MILLI congratulated, y'all.
Speaker 3: I appreciate y'all. I love you. I woke up out
Speaker 3: my sleep for this. Wokeack. You know I got a rollbone.
Speaker 3: I won't never come on this this this, You know
Speaker 3: I was robone. I appreciate what I love y'all.
Speaker 2: Oh, Joe, you do realize I got I'm hosting first
Speaker 2: take tomorrow. I'm feeling in for steven A.
Speaker 3: This is the funny thing about it. You host the
Speaker 3: first take.
Speaker 4: And you still ain't bringing me on, and you the
Speaker 4: head and you're the main man for the next two days.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question, on Joe, how many
Speaker 2: times if I worked at any job and I feel
Speaker 2: them for the boss, you think I can go out
Speaker 2: and hire somebody else?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, But did he come back and say you
Speaker 1: don't I hire two people if he is given.
Speaker 4: If you the main dog, if you the chief for
Speaker 4: the next two days, therefore you need to act like
Speaker 4: the boss. Well, you know what, I got a plus one.
Speaker 4: I want to bring with me what you doing to me,
Speaker 4: is you acting like you on college that goddamn orientation.
Speaker 4: Orientation is over. Your foot is in the goddamn though.
Speaker 2: If I no, no, my foot's in the door. I
Speaker 2: ain't in the door. My foot's in the door. I
Speaker 2: gotta get all the way in the door.
Speaker 4: You all the way in the door, because if you
Speaker 4: wasn't all the way in the door, he wouldn't be
Speaker 4: having you take two days while he's off doing whatever
Speaker 4: you need to do.
Speaker 1: No he he And they, first of all, stephen A
Speaker 1: had to agree to this.
Speaker 2: Dave Roberts, who's Jimmy Burke, Magnus, Jimmy Patarro and Bob Iger.
Speaker 1: Bob them know me.
Speaker 3: They were good. That might excuse me. I almost say something, then,
Speaker 3: my people.
Speaker 2: I appreciate stephen A and all the people that I
Speaker 2: just named having having confidence that I could do this well.
Speaker 3: They need you need to have the confidence to let
Speaker 3: them know that I could do it too.
Speaker 1: He acting like like they ain't got no zoom call
Speaker 1: they can zoom you. No, I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't want to zoom.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to be on st Yeah.
Speaker 4: I can catch a flight, I bet I bet I
Speaker 4: can get that before ten o'clock tomorrow morning.
Speaker 2: You get here before ten o'clock tomorrow, money, We're gonna
Speaker 2: be long gone. We from we home from seven.
Speaker 3: To nine, just just working magic for your boy.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: Get you oo oh Joe, see you the type of
Speaker 2: guy that I get the job? You know, I working
Speaker 2: at foot locker. Gil, Hey, I get that what today?
Speaker 2: He already asked me to say about. Hey, once in
Speaker 2: the box of shoes outside for me, bro I just
Speaker 2: got in. Let me let me get it. Can I
Speaker 2: get the manager status? Let me get the manager status?
Speaker 2: I said, everybody else schedule. Then I'll be able to
Speaker 2: hook you up when you get a discounts soon as
Speaker 2: you get the job.
Speaker 1: Give me your dish.
Speaker 3: Get I'm talking about. Thank you, Thank you, Gil, Thank you?
Speaker 1: Hold up? Who get who you say? Who you say?
Speaker 1: You get the job, you get a discount, Give me
Speaker 1: that one.
Speaker 3: I come in the two.
Speaker 2: Let me use your discount. But see you, you have
Speaker 2: to understand how I came in. You know I didn't
Speaker 2: can't come in under the under the greatest of circumstances.
Speaker 1: Yeah, first of all, you one right now, what are
Speaker 1: you talking about? Yeah?
Speaker 4: The funny thing, Yeah, and the funny thing about it
Speaker 4: is you ain't just bringing anybody on you, bringing somebody
Speaker 4: that's gonna move the needle. When he's on there with you,
Speaker 4: it's a different it's a whole different ball game. And
Speaker 4: I'm sure that Bob and Jimmy and whoever else understand
Speaker 4: that dynamic issues.
Speaker 3: Bert Roberts, Yeah, I know they see this. Yeah, yeah, Burke,
Speaker 3: curse Burke, hatless your boy.
Speaker 1: I lost her, not Burke, Burke.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I said Burke, I said Burke.
Speaker 1: I lost his phone number like Ernie and Burke, Ernie
Speaker 1: and Burke.
Speaker 3: Yeah no Burke, Burke. B you r ya.
Speaker 1: Okay, b b Okay, Burt, I guess yes. So, oh Joe,
Speaker 1: can I get here?
Speaker 4: Let me get okay, okay, So since since I can't come,
Speaker 4: and just give your boy a shout out tomorrow man,
Speaker 4: like the DJ, the DJ, Yeah, like the DJ when
Speaker 4: the DJ walking the club and so and so, so
Speaker 4: and so and hit the night.
Speaker 1: Just yeah, I see I see my boy over there
Speaker 1: popping bottles.
Speaker 4: H shock, Yeah, yeah, there you go. Yeah, just similar
Speaker 4: shout out on TV. I'm gonna be watching.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna recorder so I can I can show my kids.
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Speaker 2: a loved one. And again, thank you, thank you so
Speaker 2: much for helping Nightcap reach officially half a million. Oh Joe,
Speaker 2: we got to do something special. Hit a million, Oh Joe,
Speaker 2: we got to do something special.
Speaker 1: I got what we're gonna do. What I heard you like? Uh?
Speaker 1: Was it was? It be nasty?
Speaker 3: Hey?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm about to send her in one of her
Speaker 1: friends right now on me. Hey, get your get your out.
Speaker 1: How about you? Hey, you need your grandma covers on
Speaker 1: the couch when she come in town.
Speaker 3: You gotta get ready to shave them covers. Black.
Speaker 1: Hey man, it just hit five hundred. Want to be
Speaker 1: gumming right now, go and build my music. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: right now one more for good measure. Uh.
Speaker 2: Cam Production said, Uh, don't listen to old Joe. He's
Speaker 2: trying to get you fired on your day off.
Speaker 1: Nah. Well it actually was supposed to be my day off.
Speaker 4: Right Listen, if I get on there, you ain't getting fired.
Speaker 4: Where you're gonna get a raised. I'm gonna make sure
Speaker 4: you get a raised.
Speaker 2: Man, you do I mean, I mean obviously, Like I said,
Speaker 2: over the last four months, Steveenator and I stemen A
Speaker 2: and I have become very very close. But for him
Speaker 2: to trust me, it says okay, hey, big boy, can
Speaker 2: you do it? And for the bosses to uh to
Speaker 2: reach out and say, hey, we want you to do this,
Speaker 2: obviously it means a lot and knowing because I was like,
Speaker 2: oh man, I'm like, man, I got I got, I
Speaker 2: got nightcamp Wednesday, and you want me to do Thursday?
Speaker 1: Front. I got Nightcap for Thursday, and I got Club Shayshae.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm taping Club sh sh tomorrow now. So by
Speaker 1: the time I get from get from down, you know,
Speaker 1: get downtown eat, I got to head over to the
Speaker 1: spot and do a taping. But you can't ask God
Speaker 1: to give you something and then complain about how much
Speaker 1: you put on your plate. You said you was hungry.
Speaker 1: Now what you say, Oh Joe, you we said we
Speaker 1: were hungry. We wanted this. We can not complain now
Speaker 1: about how much you're giving us to eat. I like that,
Speaker 1: and so that's that's what I aid. That's what I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do. Gil. We had someone in the comments, says Gil,
Speaker 1: who's on your mouth? Rushmore for Lake, for the Lakers,
Speaker 1: for the Lakers. Yes, Magic got the one cold lebron
Speaker 1: Kareem and Shaq.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean you got to start and find we
Speaker 2: just wanted four, but we'll let you put five then, Shaq.
Speaker 1: Man, you paulk Reed, the man just failing the concert.
Speaker 1: He still can't get no love. I'm just one more
Speaker 1: person disrespecting him. Hey, I've just got in line. I
Speaker 1: ain't doing here o.
Speaker 2: Jo Corey Higgs said he tried the urine treatment on
Speaker 2: his ankle, and he can now dunk.
Speaker 3: I told you, I told you, I told you. All
Speaker 3: you got to do is heat it up.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 4: Something about the toxins in the urine that absorbs all
Speaker 4: the swelling and any any anything in there. Man, It's
Speaker 4: just it had you back to normal in two days.
Speaker 1: I'm good.
Speaker 2: I don't want I don't want to I don't want
Speaker 2: to be normal. Life lessons asked who's more athletic? Football
Speaker 2: players are basketball players? What you think, Gil, that's a
Speaker 2: good one.
Speaker 1: It's different athleticism I think overall, like jumping ability up
Speaker 1: and down, I think football players. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Like when it comes to just max verting, its football players. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think we're more. I think we're more athletic. What
Speaker 2: you think, o, Joe.
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 3: Hoopers?
Speaker 4: I mean hoopers got bounced? Man, Yeah, there's some hoops
Speaker 4: that got bounced. But I think I mean, I mean,
Speaker 4: it's it's different types. It's too different type of athleticism
Speaker 4: and movements in general. Right, Damn, that's crazy. I probably
Speaker 4: say football players, especially based on the position you play.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, I think it's football players. Also, thunderclap
Speaker 2: what position?
Speaker 1: Gil?
Speaker 2: They're asking you thunderclap ass Gil, What position would you
Speaker 2: play in the NFL?
Speaker 1: Who's the dude that's RNT next to the gatoryde thing?
Speaker 1: Is that the water boy? That equipment guy? Hey, I'm
Speaker 1: not going out there getting hit. You see a hard
Speaker 1: I got. I played poporner playing for the East Valley Trojans.
Speaker 1: Try to quarterback sleep, I woke up as a basketball player.
Speaker 1: Knock my helmet off and everything. I'm good in this sport. Okay,
Speaker 1: uh huh, yes, no, thank you.
Speaker 3: That's a good one.
Speaker 2: Funny story. Jayleen Dorsey had said, funny story. Monday night,
Speaker 2: my girl yelling in her sleep, have my heart rake
Speaker 2: about two two of the beasts per minute.
Speaker 1: I could hear my heart.
Speaker 2: Pumpet just had to ask, have y'all ever heard people
Speaker 2: around you sleep sleep talk or sleep walk?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Right, I'm sleep, I'm sleep.
Speaker 1: You ain't never heard anybody talking this sleep man?
Speaker 3: When I'm sleep, I'm sleep. The fact that I was
Speaker 3: able to answer that phone call and you woke me up,
Speaker 3: I don't I don't know how.
Speaker 2: I don't even I don't know how I did it.
Speaker 2: But I'm a light sleep. I'm a light sleeper though. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you ever heard anybody sleep, sleep talk or sleep walk. No,
Speaker 2: I've never heard of abody sleep walk, but I heard
Speaker 2: people's talking to sleep.
Speaker 1: I was it here?
Speaker 2: Yeah, m hm nah, So they don't. They don't usually
Speaker 2: spend the night bed kel kel b eighty nine. Oh Joe,
Speaker 2: I'm shooting my shot. I'm a wedding photographer and a
Speaker 2: damn good one. I want to photograph your wedding. You
Speaker 2: love saving money. I'm doing it for free as a fan.
Speaker 2: How do I get in touch? Ps?
Speaker 3: Love the show, Hey boss man.
Speaker 4: Anything having to do with the wedding that's on the
Speaker 4: missus end, So you would have to send her a message.
Speaker 4: She will respond, especially for something as important as that
Speaker 4: and saving money. You know her and I on the
Speaker 4: same page, so she will respond to you if you
Speaker 4: send her a tweet, and I'm sure she would oblige.
Speaker 3: I appreciate it, though, Oh.
Speaker 1: Joe, I want to thank you for I don't think
Speaker 1: you will sleep. I don't think. I don't think you
Speaker 1: will sleep, but I appreciate you coming on.
Speaker 3: If I wasn't sleep, I wouldn't have on my road.
Speaker 4: I jumped out to bed, hooked my laptop up, put
Speaker 4: them a robe, and put on some glasses just because
Speaker 4: I knew I had to pay that massa damn.
Speaker 1: Rode well, I couldn't. I mean, I try to trust me,
Speaker 1: I was asleep. I couldn't. I couldn't thank everybody for
Speaker 1: five hundred thousand without you.
Speaker 3: Right, just go look right you right well listen, I
Speaker 3: mean shit, you're leaving your first take. Shure you did that.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what.
Speaker 2: I tell you what when we do three quarters in
Speaker 2: a MILLI I wanna let you have it. You're gonna
Speaker 2: take the whole show by yourself. You're gonna take you
Speaker 2: gonna take nightcap. You got nightcap all to yourself. Whoever
Speaker 2: you want to have or you have reil, you have
Speaker 2: the kids. I'm gonna let you have it.
Speaker 3: Wait when we hear what, when we hit what, we can.
Speaker 1: Hear either seven fifty or a meal, I'm gonna let
Speaker 1: you have it.
Speaker 3: Oh, let me let me tell real. I can get
Speaker 3: to seven fifty by next week. Don't do that.
Speaker 1: You got it, you can have whatever. Guess hey, you
Speaker 1: set the lineup for the gas. Whoever you want to
Speaker 1: come on?
Speaker 3: Matter of fact, speaking to guest, I sai some money bag, yo,
Speaker 3: say you want to come on? As a guest man.
Speaker 1: Uh when.
Speaker 3: It is on him. So we got to hit seventy
Speaker 3: fifty first, right yep? Okay, bet bet, yep.
Speaker 1: I heard it. I heard it.
Speaker 2: But we are but we are, you know, we're trying
Speaker 2: to get some things together for you know that that
Speaker 2: big trip we got. We got a big trip.
Speaker 3: Are you talking about over there? And with a with
Speaker 3: a spear at the spear spear? Okay, yep, I'm ready.
Speaker 3: I'm ready. Let's get mail. Let's get this Zail.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know if dem Zel gonna be there.
Speaker 3: You show up.
Speaker 1: I mean he does, he does. He does like sports,
Speaker 1: but I don't know that.
Speaker 2: You know, we got to keep it strictly sports and
Speaker 2: then let him log off before we go into the
Speaker 2: other stuff. Now, he would be good on life's lessons,
Speaker 2: about discipline, about sacrifices. It's going to be interested to
Speaker 2: him because Paul Atte uh pault what Paulta called Paul
Speaker 2: Atte Washington, she sacrificed. She was a classic pianist. Pianist
Speaker 2: you know John David, which is his oldest son. All
Speaker 2: of them are in the business. They work in some capacity,
Speaker 2: either in front of the camera, behind the camera. I
Speaker 2: think John David is really the only one that's in front.
Speaker 2: I think the others are behind the camera. So it
Speaker 2: would be interesting to see a career that spanned four
Speaker 2: decades and to how he was able. She I mean,
Speaker 2: if you know them, you know her. But she never like,
Speaker 2: for whatever reason, she's like, Okay, baby, you gonna do
Speaker 2: your thing. I'm gonna hold this house down. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: make sure the kids have X, Y and Z. You
Speaker 2: go ahead and build this empire. Takes a special type of.
Speaker 3: Person to do that, O Joe, Yeah, it does, Yes,
Speaker 3: she does.
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Speaker 2: or for someone.
Speaker 1: That you love.
Speaker 2: Your boy gotta get to bed because you gotta get
Speaker 2: up early in the morning be cause your boy got
Speaker 2: a hurt. Host first Take me and the crew. I
Speaker 2: don't know who's gonna be on there with me, but time.
Speaker 3: What you're gonna do soon this first take start tomorrow?
Speaker 3: What you're gonna do?
Speaker 1: I was like, Hey, how y'all doing. I have't been
Speaker 1: on TV in a long time, so I want to say,
Speaker 1: oh Jo, oh Joe, can I get you know, can
Speaker 1: I get here? Can I get in? Can? I mean?
Speaker 1: Can I get in? Like I mean, have mercy? So
Speaker 1: you just want me so you see what I'm saying. Gil,
Speaker 1: as soon as I get, as soon as I I got,
Speaker 1: I just got the job at foot locker. He already
Speaker 1: wanted me to sit a pair of shoester side. Just
Speaker 1: give me.
Speaker 3: Have you ever seen it?
Speaker 4: I used to work at footlocker. As soon as you
Speaker 4: soon as you started foot locker, you get a family discount.
Speaker 4: You get a family You have a family discount. Soon
Speaker 4: as you get as soon as you're on first Take tomorrow,
Speaker 4: I ain't got no disco.
Speaker 3: I need to hear. Oh, I know you're watching.
Speaker 1: I love you baby.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get you on here one day, that's all.
Speaker 1: I don't know you watching. I know you watch.
Speaker 4: Oh I'm gonna be up because I'm gonna be waiting
Speaker 4: on that shot out. I'm gonna recording my TV and
Speaker 4: I'm gonna tweet it. I'm gonna tweeted it out. If you,
Speaker 4: if you, if you, Yeah, that's my boy right now,
Speaker 4: that's my boy.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I appreciate you guys. It's time to call her
Speaker 1: the night Gil.
Speaker 2: Thank you for joining us this Wednesday on Nightcap the
Speaker 2: special Edition Basketball if only you can do. Appreciate your insight,
Speaker 2: the lessons, the stories, uh o yo Nightcap.
Speaker 1: We're back again tomorrow. Thank you for joining us. All right,
Speaker 1: Jill my least all Oji lep Bro appreciate you alright
Speaker 1: out yeahm