Speaker 1: Welcome to the Command Center Podcast. I'm Logan pauls in
Speaker 1: here with Fred Smooth and Santana Moss. How you guys
Speaker 1: been I'm good.
Speaker 2: You a hater, but I've been good.
Speaker 3: You know why am I a hater? Man?
Speaker 2: Because you hated on me last week? Time about I
Speaker 2: ran a four to four eight, And I mean it
Speaker 2: calls an uproar in the community to Washington. Everyone's everybody
Speaker 2: to be like, how you let London one past than you?
Speaker 2: And I was like London was naked and he was
Speaker 2: one hundred and ninety three pounds at the time. So
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, yes, you were probably I.
Speaker 1: Think you brought up a good point at like John Carroll, right,
Speaker 1: that's where I went to school. Yeah, he ran thirty
Speaker 1: five and it was probably downhill, right. They want him
Speaker 1: to look as good.
Speaker 2: As he was the first and only athlete to do
Speaker 2: great things. They had to build him up.
Speaker 4: I told you all the story about London catching me
Speaker 4: when I played. Yeh, London was pretty fast.
Speaker 2: It was super fast. I don't know what is forty one.
Speaker 4: But when I when I when I.
Speaker 2: Got up off the ground and looked bag us who
Speaker 2: got me by one?
Speaker 1: An I'm like, and he doesn't look like he would
Speaker 1: be fast just looking at and I like, what is
Speaker 1: my guy?
Speaker 2: That make Flitch so great? The intangibles in it. He's
Speaker 2: not the biggest, he's not the strongest, he's not the
Speaker 2: like he just has won't to it won't do made
Speaker 2: him great.
Speaker 1: But also four to three is pretty good, though, I
Speaker 1: will say, like he's got some I didn't know he
Speaker 1: was at this under question though, so maybe we'll ask
Speaker 1: maybe you know, I've got I've got an investigative team
Speaker 1: looking for your forty, your official forty.
Speaker 3: We do.
Speaker 2: So I need to go talk to the head coach
Speaker 2: of John Carroll to get a true vision of what
Speaker 2: happened that.
Speaker 1: All right, Soday actually got a really fun show. All Right, Okay,
Speaker 1: we're gonna build our team with fifteen dollars, and so
Speaker 1: what we've done is we've kind of priced out all
Speaker 1: these different players and so to give you an example,
Speaker 1: so for the quarterback, for example, we got Sonny Jurgensen
Speaker 1: as our five dollars quarterback. Yeah, Sammy Ball is the
Speaker 1: four dollars quarterback. Ye Mark Renell and Mark Mark Brunell
Speaker 1: is a three dollars quarterback. Sam Howe is a two
Speaker 1: dollars quarterback, and Rex Grossman my favorite player on this list,
Speaker 1: a one dollar quarterback.
Speaker 2: Right, Rick, That's so funny because Rix, I'm the reason
Speaker 2: Rick start playing started playing. Yes, we played Florida and
Speaker 2: what and we we just Jesse Pulman okay, and further
Speaker 2: just threw Rix in there and Jabaika all them was
Speaker 2: bathing at the time, and then they started from them four.
Speaker 2: So Rick should thank me for his career.
Speaker 1: So you get to pick one quarterback. Let's go running
Speaker 1: backs real quick. We got John Riggins yep, okay, Clinton Portis,
Speaker 1: Stephen Davis, Brian Robinson Junior as the two dollar guy,
Speaker 1: and Ladell Bets as the one dollar guy.
Speaker 2: That's so damn good.
Speaker 1: Was he good?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: He was so good?
Speaker 1: I don't remember Ladell.
Speaker 2: First of all, he could catch way better than people
Speaker 2: think you all right, he could run about. Don't forget
Speaker 2: the year that Clean got hurt. The dal field went
Speaker 2: like twelve hundred yas. I didn't realize that he was dead.
Speaker 4: Boys, I didn't realize that he was one of those
Speaker 4: backups almost like how they had that situation in Dallas
Speaker 4: this past year where the backup was almost better than
Speaker 4: the started. Yeah, Clint was just he was just he
Speaker 4: was just Clinton. Yeah, but Thendale could could start.
Speaker 3: Anywhere, all right?
Speaker 4: Cool?
Speaker 1: And then for receiver we got five dollars. We got
Speaker 1: Art Monk and we got our very own yeah for
Speaker 1: four dollars. That seemed I mean, yeah, four dollars. Do
Speaker 1: you think that's a big man?
Speaker 2: You know, I love I love a big mac. I
Speaker 2: called it a big mix because I don't get big
Speaker 2: Max House, I get like mayonnaise and states we got.
Speaker 1: We got Terry McLaurin for three dollars, which seems like
Speaker 1: really good value. Antoine Randall l for two, and Jamison
Speaker 1: Crowder for one, who seems a little bit low for me.
Speaker 1: You remember playing with him, right, I didn't.
Speaker 4: Play with Crowded was the reason why they didn't bring
Speaker 4: me back.
Speaker 2: Okay, he's like, I mean, off season, Hey, we're.
Speaker 4: Gonna be gonna go drafted guys, so we'll let you
Speaker 4: go and be a free agent.
Speaker 2: Crowded just got hurt too much for.
Speaker 1: Me, Okay, all right, But he had that kind of
Speaker 1: like slot ability that God sluck.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right.
Speaker 1: D Lion linebacker, we got Charles Man for five dollars,
Speaker 1: Ryan Ryan Kerrigan for four dollars, John Allen for three dollars,
Speaker 1: LaVar Arrington for two, and Rocky McIntosh.
Speaker 2: Of value from three to one down three to one dollars. Yeah,
Speaker 2: a lot of it.
Speaker 1: I feel like the value there is John Allen for sure. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, and then uh dB, we got Darryl Green
Speaker 1: five dollars, that makes sense, Sean Taylor for four, ye
Speaker 1: Camp camp Croll for three, Fellows Rogers for two, and
Speaker 1: Reid Dowdy one of my favorite players I ever played with,
Speaker 1: for a dollar.
Speaker 2: Read now, most people don't understand it. Red could not hear.
Speaker 1: It was actually deaf. He was read as usually joking,
Speaker 1: but he was actually was. He had a degenerative hearing issue. Yes,
Speaker 1: all right, So I think we should make one team
Speaker 1: amongst the three of us. So we're gonna have a
Speaker 1: little bit. We're gonna have a little bit of debate
Speaker 1: here as we go through. So we gotta kind of
Speaker 1: keep track. Jason, can I have a pen please when
Speaker 1: you have a chance. Thank you. All right, let's keep
Speaker 1: track of this. So I want to start with how
Speaker 1: do we want to build our team? We want to
Speaker 1: start with quarterbacks. Yeah, and then we start with quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: So to me, when I look at Suddy Jergensen, like
Speaker 1: he is the goat. He led the league in passing
Speaker 1: two times in his career, two time MVY like it
Speaker 1: was like an MVP. He was a pro bowler five times.
Speaker 1: He was awesome statistically for his era. He was in saying.
Speaker 1: So I actually looked up when he led the league
Speaker 1: in passing both years he would have been in the
Speaker 1: NFL last year would have been tenth in passing.
Speaker 2: Oh, this is great.
Speaker 1: It which is crazy. And in fourteen games and his
Speaker 1: completion percentage in I think sixty nine was better than
Speaker 1: a lot of quarterbacks. They so yeah, so yeah he
Speaker 1: So to me, five dollars seems like if you want
Speaker 1: to build like you're the Peyton Manning of this organization.
Speaker 1: Yeah is him, I think.
Speaker 2: But ba, I'm so glad you brought that up. Come on, dal,
Speaker 2: like you're talking about getting the ball out of.
Speaker 1: Your hands, and he could and he could run, he
Speaker 1: could throw. So to me, the best so Sonny is
Speaker 1: like the name right, But to me, the best value
Speaker 1: at the quarterback spot is Sammy Baugh because I think
Speaker 1: Sammy bough is arguably but I mean it's the most
Speaker 1: important position in sports, Fred, what are we doing?
Speaker 2: But I did play with Mark Brunel. He was Tanna's quarterback,
Speaker 2: So Tanner, you got to argument too much that Mark
Speaker 2: couldn't do.
Speaker 1: But Mark, when he was here, it was kind of
Speaker 1: near the tail end, right, Tanna like I liked.
Speaker 2: I like.
Speaker 4: Mark left here and played well with New Orleans for
Speaker 4: a year. That showed that he still has some in
Speaker 4: the tank, you know. And I was I was pissed
Speaker 4: in six when we benched Mark and put Campbell in
Speaker 4: because one, it's not because Campbell wasn't ready, I mean
Speaker 4: or worthy. I didn't think he was ready at the time,
Speaker 4: still young pup, and the things that Mark was dealing with,
Speaker 4: it was mostly because our officeer line just wann't.
Speaker 2: He wasn't good, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So this guy here, he can't. He's not as mobile
Speaker 4: as he used to be. And then you're saying, all right,
Speaker 4: drop back and and flinting down the field. So I'm
Speaker 4: tell you right now, if we're picking quarterbacks, let me
Speaker 4: be the first.
Speaker 3: We're gonna spend three dollars.
Speaker 2: We're not spending We got a team. We're gonna spend
Speaker 2: three dollars from Mark.
Speaker 1: Let me just say this, samaw Samy Baugh is arguably
Speaker 1: the greatest football player and.
Speaker 4: Right now for our team, that's three dollars.
Speaker 1: So my guy, So just think about this. We can
Speaker 1: go four dollars for him, and then we go three
Speaker 1: dollars at receiver, three dollars at running back, three dollars
Speaker 1: or wherever we want, three dollars at d line, and
Speaker 1: then I would I'd rather go two dollars, no one, no, no, okay,
Speaker 1: no no, because you get a two dollar running back.
Speaker 1: Brian Robinson is a two dollars running back.
Speaker 2: Bro I can go one dollar with bit, Okay.
Speaker 1: So it's what I'm saying with Sammy Baugh. That's four dollars.
Speaker 1: You just need to be a dividend somewhere else. So
Speaker 1: I look at the running back spot and it's Brian
Speaker 1: Robinson and the Dell Bets, and we both think those
Speaker 1: are really good football players, right, and we can still
Speaker 1: go three dollars at every other spot.
Speaker 2: I can go three dollars and get tear.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm That's what I'm saying. So so I
Speaker 1: don't so I'm gonna so I'm gonna put we're gonna
Speaker 1: put three or four here. I'm gonna put a slash
Speaker 1: that we're gonna.
Speaker 2: Talk about it.
Speaker 3: So we're gonna make it.
Speaker 2: So, So where we're going, Mark Sami Ba.
Speaker 1: I would go, I would go Sammy Bo.
Speaker 2: Let's go you. Sammy Ba is what we agreed, Okay.
Speaker 1: So Sam okay, So Sammy Ball is what we're thinking.
Speaker 1: And obviously if we if we like someone else out
Speaker 1: of the spot. I think Mark Wodell is a nice fallback.
Speaker 1: So between those two, Okay, So let's go to receiver.
Speaker 1: We got Art Monk.
Speaker 2: You gonna skip running back.
Speaker 1: No, we're gonna go all it's different on your s sheet. Okay,
Speaker 1: So let's go, let's go running back.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: So we got John Riggans five dollars, Clinton Porters four dollars,
Speaker 1: Stephen Davis three dollars, Brian Robinson two, Ladell bets one.
Speaker 1: And so I looked at these top three guys and
Speaker 1: the guy that was sneaky surprising for me was Stephen Davis.
Speaker 1: Boy baller.
Speaker 2: No, listen, dead boy. He was here my rookie year,
Speaker 2: when I got here, and when I say I had
Speaker 2: to hit him one time, my whole body failed. Listen
Speaker 2: to me, Steven was heavy, very it could run the
Speaker 2: A B, but he actually run the tops like he
Speaker 2: can run whatever you need to be done. Now, the
Speaker 2: question is in this DNA with his receiving skills.
Speaker 1: I agree, I think so. I think so, so, I
Speaker 1: think so. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I'm going forth.
Speaker 3: We're going four to three. And then we got four
Speaker 3: dollars for the quarterback.
Speaker 2: Three dollars for I can go one dollar. That's what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, can do it.
Speaker 1: I look at this and I say, in today's NFL,
Speaker 1: with the way the running back spend valued, I think
Speaker 1: Brian Robinson or Ladell bats I don't know that much
Speaker 1: about Ladell Bets.
Speaker 2: You played with him.
Speaker 4: So question is, are we gonna pick? Are we using
Speaker 4: this fifteen dollars for today's NFL? I think yeah, it
Speaker 4: would be the best player in today's day today. So
Speaker 4: if we go today's NFL, I like that. I like
Speaker 4: Sammy Bard for if we're gonna go, I would say,
Speaker 4: let's go Brian Robinson because he's playing in today's NFL.
Speaker 4: And then, and guess what I'm gonna say. I normally
Speaker 4: want to do this, but we're talking about today. If
Speaker 4: it's any player in the world I've ever watched or
Speaker 4: played with that want to see in today's NFL, I'm
Speaker 4: gonna go with me.
Speaker 3: For four dollars that.
Speaker 4: Of course, I have a valid argument for that, because
Speaker 4: I just believe that the way the guys are getting
Speaker 4: getting the ball these days, if I was ever in
Speaker 4: the offense that that that, you know, favored me that way,
Speaker 4: who knows what my numbers would have been.
Speaker 2: First of all, it also favors you in the fact
Speaker 2: that it's not physical anymore. You played in a very.
Speaker 4: Exactly today, singing with the most of.
Speaker 2: Today, you would get ten flags throw on your way
Speaker 2: because somebody at you too damn hard well in your day,
Speaker 2: in our date, they didn't care about it.
Speaker 1: And I also think that like to that point at
Speaker 1: like you, like look at Cooper Cup right inside outside
Speaker 1: ability probably probably in the slot, but like, look at
Speaker 1: what these guys are doing in the slot. The guy
Speaker 1: in uh in Detroit, Now, what's his name? Frank same Brown?
Speaker 5: Right, No, yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna same Brown right
Speaker 5: like that, you are way faster, way more twitched up,
Speaker 5: larger Rolodex route stuff, and he's you know, a top
Speaker 5: ten receiver in the NFL Cooper Cup.
Speaker 1: Same thing. So I look at Tann and I'm like, absolutely,
Speaker 1: for four dollars we got we gotta pay attention though,
Speaker 1: because if so, think about this, If we go three
Speaker 1: dollars at every position, that's fifteen dollars. So we got
Speaker 1: to make sure we're balance here from a mass standpoint.
Speaker 1: So let's circle that. So we might have to go back.
Speaker 1: Who do we go for running back? Do we go
Speaker 1: Brian Robinson? We're going to delta.
Speaker 2: Let's go Brian Robinson going in now feels like Stephen Davis.
Speaker 2: He can catch like Ladale bits. He is the best
Speaker 2: out of the group.
Speaker 1: If we go Brian Robinson Junior, we're gonna have to
Speaker 1: save a buck somewhere else on this. Let's just it's up, Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, So let's go d line the linebacker here
Speaker 1: real quick.
Speaker 3: I like lear, I'm.
Speaker 4: Going Leavire because really he canvey in today's lead. The
Speaker 4: way we playing our odd guys with plays the position
Speaker 4: right now, it ain't we ain't talking about no drop off.
Speaker 4: We ain't talking about getting the Pro Bowl his first
Speaker 4: year and then dropping off.
Speaker 3: This guy he was to me, I feel like he
Speaker 3: was cheated.
Speaker 4: I felt like he was cheated because he didn't play
Speaker 4: in the defense that they would.
Speaker 2: Care to him, and they made him stand up behind
Speaker 2: the D line when he should have been rushing off
Speaker 2: the edge and they go to think about it if
Speaker 2: he if I.
Speaker 4: Hate and he's injured too, yeah at one point, so
Speaker 4: that too, kind of.
Speaker 2: I hate Pittsburg. Still, he would have been a gold
Speaker 2: jacket because he would have been rushing off the edge
Speaker 2: most of the time, and his athletic ability at that time.
Speaker 2: They couldn't miss it. They couldn't mess with it, they
Speaker 2: couldn't do nothing.
Speaker 1: With it because he basically played like off the ball seven.
Speaker 2: He was a four to four to two hundred and
Speaker 2: fifty five pounds six y three linebacker, Like this is.
Speaker 1: Not that ain't kind of like Michael person Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: but like before Michael Parsons, before Michael Parson, is Michael
Speaker 1: if they were like just Michael Parsons play linebacker, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was this is him. That's really interesting because I
Speaker 1: would have thought John Allen for three dollars would have
Speaker 1: been an interesting pick here, because you know, the value
Speaker 1: of defensive tackle on the inside is so much higher now.
Speaker 2: But I love the edge, The edge dominates, the edge
Speaker 2: messes with the quarterback a tad bit more.
Speaker 1: So you're saying LaVar Arrington over a guy like Ryan Kerrigan,
Speaker 1: And I agree financially Ryan.
Speaker 2: I just think LeVar had a little bit more athletic juice.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think Ryan Ryan played and you know,
Speaker 4: played within the scheme of things.
Speaker 2: He backstay and what he did was he did his job.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but if you think about it when you're saying
Speaker 4: who made a who made you know? How like we
Speaker 4: say that quarterback that won the game, but the quarterback
Speaker 4: who just played well enough and through to the open person.
Speaker 4: If I had to look at these.
Speaker 3: Guys, who going to win me a game?
Speaker 4: The bar and the value and for the value in
Speaker 4: the bar gonna win me a games?
Speaker 1: Both played with LeVar, Yeah, he gonna win you.
Speaker 4: I played against I mean College when he jumped over
Speaker 4: the guy once and I'm like, who the hell is
Speaker 4: he jumped over the whole officer line and made a play. So,
Speaker 4: you know, and then we end up having to play
Speaker 4: Penn State and I'm like, this guy was lining up
Speaker 4: on me in the slot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how fast?
Speaker 4: And I'm like, why is this dude lined up on
Speaker 4: me in the slot.
Speaker 2: He runs sprints with us.
Speaker 1: It really was, it really was like he.
Speaker 2: Did not he did not run sprints with the line.
Speaker 2: He ran with us.
Speaker 4: So looking at the value and looking at all these guys,
Speaker 4: all these guys are great.
Speaker 3: You know, everybody who's on this list has the ability.
Speaker 2: They did what they need to do.
Speaker 3: But I believe for the value dollars.
Speaker 1: But also think if we go two dollars with var
Speaker 1: it lets us go Brian Robinson. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It allows us to balance it out.
Speaker 2: And it allows us to pick the best defense back.
Speaker 3: And last but not least. You know what we have.
Speaker 2: How dollars left?
Speaker 1: Okay, so we got two, we got four dollars, we
Speaker 1: got eight. Uh so right now we're at twelve dollars.
Speaker 1: We have three dollars, so we can't afford shun Cam. Okay,
Speaker 1: if you want to, yeah, if you want to go
Speaker 1: to pick Sean. But if you want to go Sean Taylor,
Speaker 1: we could either go Ladell Bets, which would save us
Speaker 1: a dollar, yeah, or we could go Tarry mclaurinett three,
Speaker 1: or we could go Mark Brunell. Yeah, right, So.
Speaker 2: I would rather go Ladale Betts and run battle and
Speaker 2: then keeps and then I won't shun like I won't
Speaker 2: shun because he translates to any day in era. Yeah,
Speaker 2: like he to be with and I And I've said
Speaker 2: yes on plenty of interviews when they asked me, could
Speaker 2: he change his style of play and not be that
Speaker 2: as physical, not be as physical with today's lead. He could.
Speaker 4: I think he could, but I still think it'd be
Speaker 4: a lot of.
Speaker 2: You don't care. One of the things about him.
Speaker 4: If you take him off some kind of way, he
Speaker 4: gonna say effort.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he coming at your throw.
Speaker 4: So player two, he's gonna say effort and he's gonna
Speaker 4: hit you and it might cost the team, but at
Speaker 4: the same time he's gonna set the tone.
Speaker 1: Are so in comparing, you know, cam Crow to Sean Taylor,
Speaker 1: the biggest differences between the two like because I just
Speaker 1: remember athletically, I think Sewan was.
Speaker 2: Analytic prowess shun. All right, we are of one percent, right,
Speaker 2: we like to joke with each other, who faster, who strong?
Speaker 2: It don't matter. We're a part of one percent that
Speaker 2: the world can never be a part of.
Speaker 1: Probably probably better than that, probably point one percent.
Speaker 2: But the one percent of the one percent I have seen,
Speaker 2: Like I had, I gotta, I gotta. I had the
Speaker 2: chance to play with Dayl Green, fastest man I had,
Speaker 2: I got the ability. I had the chance to play
Speaker 2: with Champ Bailey, one of the best athletes ever seen,
Speaker 2: LaVar Heriton, one of the best athletes I have ever seen.
Speaker 2: Sean was better athlete than all of them.
Speaker 1: Really, he was like that.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, I used to come to the one
Speaker 4: on ones and check one of our receivers and I
Speaker 4: remember it was crazy because both of us had just
Speaker 4: got to the team and.
Speaker 3: Sean, Yeah.
Speaker 4: So David Patty's like, man, hey, Sean, man, I'm not
Speaker 4: you know, I'm the old head. Why would you go
Speaker 4: there and check tenne and Sean. I'm like, okay, y'all
Speaker 4: just want to go against you, but I'm gonna get
Speaker 4: some of the ten or two later.
Speaker 2: And that's what And know that's who he is safety.
Speaker 4: Coming to one on one drill, trying to cut.
Speaker 3: The receiver receivers.
Speaker 4: And he would coming every now and then and and
Speaker 4: and that in front of me, and I'm like, sewing,
Speaker 4: chill out because I don't want you. No.
Speaker 1: No, he was like six two sixty.
Speaker 2: Three huge high school, and when he got here he
Speaker 2: was forty.
Speaker 1: No, it was not really rookie.
Speaker 2: He's a rookie year. Him and the bost next to
Speaker 2: each other the huddle. I couldn't tell the difference between one.
Speaker 1: Here was a huge and then what was this forty
Speaker 1: time coming out? I don't remember four three.
Speaker 2: Matter what he's on the field, never.
Speaker 1: Tell you the story. So Danny Smith, the old special
Speaker 1: teams coach guy, his first the first meeting, he says, like,
Speaker 1: what is the standard for special teams here in Washington?
Speaker 1: And he puts up a clip and it's Sean Taylor,
Speaker 1: and Sean Taylor goes to block the punt and he
Speaker 1: just barely misses it right, you know, like kind of
Speaker 1: right by his fingertips. He gets up, sprints, so catches
Speaker 1: up to the coverage unit and absolutely obliterates like three
Speaker 1: dudes blindside blind side one totally decleat runs up the
Speaker 1: punters coming decletes that dude.
Speaker 4: Guess but guess where he gets that from in not
Speaker 4: saying that he's not that guy by himself. If you
Speaker 4: go back and watch all the Miami film, Hey, don't
Speaker 4: even watch the Miami film. Go back and watch ed reed.
Speaker 4: He did the same thing, missed the block and got
Speaker 4: up and killed the guy. That was our standard at
Speaker 4: um man Our, our our special team coaches say, look here,
Speaker 4: we got some of the best returns from turners in
Speaker 4: the league. Every from from me before me, after me,
Speaker 4: we had some of the best returners. So if you
Speaker 4: was on that punk return team, it was showtime knowing
Speaker 4: that if you didn't block it, get up and hit
Speaker 4: somebody because every turning he's gonna go to distance.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's interesting because and we talked about like kind
Speaker 1: of making a team for now right. And one of
Speaker 1: the things about Sean Taylor, at least as you described him,
Speaker 1: it sounds like he could play linebackers, could play safety,
Speaker 1: could play that buffalo.
Speaker 3: Up at the.
Speaker 2: And I can put him a wide receiver if I
Speaker 2: really wanted to.
Speaker 4: Did sometimes we did that, did that he was running
Speaker 4: face and goal line crazy.
Speaker 2: Put him in wide receiver and I could actually get
Speaker 2: if I got him and ten on my team, I
Speaker 2: got two returners too. Yeah, Sean return plant.
Speaker 4: So Sean Sean led led all high school football in
Speaker 4: Florida in touchdowns.
Speaker 1: Well, it's so interesting because we talked about guys that
Speaker 1: maybe were a little bit out of the other spot.
Speaker 1: And like, you know, I think Sean fit that era.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 1: I think he's even more like he reminds me a
Speaker 1: lot of Derwin James, who everyone considers.
Speaker 4: Darren jam He said, I want to be that guy.
Speaker 4: Ye know what I'm sea because he's to me, the
Speaker 4: closest out of all Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he played the position.
Speaker 1: So I think we're good. Let's just review our guys
Speaker 1: real quick. So Sammy ball all right, because I mean
Speaker 1: I feel like he threw the ball like he was
Speaker 1: the best quarterback in his era. He was the best
Speaker 1: runner in his era, right, and bringing that skill set
Speaker 1: a guy who like can throw like Patrick Mahones but
Speaker 1: run like Lamar Jack. That's kind of what you're talking about. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's got that ability, right, So I think that's good,
Speaker 1: good value for four dollars and then for running back.
Speaker 1: We weren't really cheap, right, And I don't know, I
Speaker 1: don't have a lot of file on the doubt bets.
Speaker 1: I remember thinking he's a good player.
Speaker 2: He could do everything. He can pass, block, he can
Speaker 2: run a yeap, he could, he can run the tops.
Speaker 2: He can catch the ball way better than Peter could.
Speaker 1: He kind of be that modern back.
Speaker 2: You think he could he could play right now today
Speaker 2: and be dominant. Yeah, he could play today, right now
Speaker 2: and be dominant, especially because his low center of gravity.
Speaker 2: Like the one thing I never seen from Ladell. I
Speaker 2: never seen him fall, really like I don't like to
Speaker 2: see my running backs fall. Yeah, absolutely, like he never fall.
Speaker 2: He never failed at practice.
Speaker 1: And I think it's really interesting when you look at
Speaker 1: the top guys, right, you look at John Riggins, Clint Porter,
Speaker 1: Stephen Davis. How much has the game changed now right
Speaker 1: for those that because those guys.
Speaker 2: I love Rego, But Rego couldn't play to day.
Speaker 1: Yeah he'd be fullback.
Speaker 2: Yeah, full line back, you'll be all start.
Speaker 4: Porters could play today too, h Porters could play today.
Speaker 4: You know, we talking about value, were just trying to
Speaker 4: get the cheapest guy we can be able to make
Speaker 4: a great team.
Speaker 3: So Porters could definitely play the day.
Speaker 4: And then one of the things about Porters that stands
Speaker 4: out more than all these guys blocking you know.
Speaker 1: So, so do you remember watching those cutups with Kyle
Speaker 1: of Clinton that's protecting So I remember there was a
Speaker 1: there was a preseason game. This was back when preseason
Speaker 1: was real. We're playing the Jets, and you remember Jenkins,
Speaker 1: that noseguard that weighed four hundred pounds, so they basically
Speaker 1: had this defense the Jets did where he would walk
Speaker 1: up and he was the spinners, Chris Jenkins, and he
Speaker 1: walked up in the A gap and ran so from
Speaker 1: five yards off time to snap up and ran up
Speaker 1: in the A gap. Clinton portis like, this is when
Speaker 1: I was like, that's that dude. He stepped up and
Speaker 1: full on blitz protection four hundred and fifteen pounds to
Speaker 1: the face. Bro Like, I could not believe it. The
Speaker 1: amount of snapped that he had and the courage it
Speaker 1: took to do that.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 4: We don't want I don't want to be long winded
Speaker 4: with this.
Speaker 3: You good with names.
Speaker 4: What's this linebacker name that played for the for the
Speaker 4: Broncos that played in Tennison.
Speaker 2: Oh al Wilson.
Speaker 4: Al Wilson, so Porters that just left from Denver.
Speaker 3: He was two years here. It was my first year here.
Speaker 4: So remember he came in four, I came in five.
Speaker 4: We played in Denver. Al Wilson came on the blitz
Speaker 4: or whatever it was. Porters hit him so hard. I
Speaker 4: watched the dude somersault and look go the other way.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 4: Remind you it's why the play going on. I saw
Speaker 4: this happen because I came in motion or something.
Speaker 2: I wanted to fight.
Speaker 4: He got up and straight wanted to fight.
Speaker 3: Se P. Oh, it's like that.
Speaker 4: And see P laughing, y'all know what time? And you
Speaker 4: know I said, he talked all soft man, y'all know
Speaker 4: what time? Then, So I'm walking back to the hudlelight Seper,
Speaker 4: you crazy. That's al Wilson, Like, I just.
Speaker 3: Know the dude.
Speaker 2: He was like, damn bull, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: The guy had the fast head of all heads. He
Speaker 2: just looked like he looked like he ate red meat
Speaker 2: all this night.
Speaker 4: You know, I get to the huddle, I'm like, see
Speaker 4: you straight because I'm like, I'm already got that mindset
Speaker 4: we got we're gonna have to fight in a second,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. See P said, man, they know,
Speaker 4: and I thought about I'm like, oh, you came from
Speaker 4: them by against each other. They know what time it is,
Speaker 4: Tanna And the next guy came the next play. He
Speaker 4: hit him in the mouth too. I said, oh yeah,
Speaker 4: see pe got all that nothing look as and I
Speaker 4: love I wanted cep the entire game. But I really
Speaker 4: truly believe that Al said, you know what, I ain't
Speaker 4: gonna go and knock on that door unless I got
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. The first time I knocked
Speaker 4: and he showed me he was there, I ain't knocking
Speaker 4: again unless I got to. And it was incredible to
Speaker 4: watch that.
Speaker 2: I think the biggest question that running back could he
Speaker 2: translate today is Stephen Daves his hands was and then
Speaker 2: you think, but Steve is huge, more you and Steve
Speaker 2: he was.
Speaker 4: He was more athletic than people gave him to for
Speaker 4: his side because you didn't see.
Speaker 2: A big guy.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Athletic is crapping. I used to sit there on other teams,
Speaker 4: you know, I was with the Jets and watching y'all.
Speaker 3: I'm like that big dude can do that, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like he was just number on his feet. You know,
Speaker 2: Steve was. Steve was crazy.
Speaker 1: So do you think you could do it today? I
Speaker 1: think Steve could or is he more of a situation.
Speaker 2: No, I think Steve would be Derrick Henry really just
Speaker 2: like that, listen, listen, because he can run. Steve hurt people.
Speaker 2: I have watched line back and say no more Jesse.
Speaker 2: When Jesse came here like that, Damn Steve like gave
Speaker 2: us hell like because he wouldn't lean on you like.
Speaker 1: It hurt I bet so okay, So just because of
Speaker 1: the financials, Yeah, Sammy bought was four dollars. The doull
Speaker 1: bets at one. That's five dollars. Santana moss Man, I
Speaker 1: love this pick. This is maybe my favorite of the
Speaker 1: day because you're gonna ge, We're gonna get your nice quarterback.
Speaker 1: Can you get your ball a lot, You're a lot
Speaker 1: of touches.
Speaker 3: We're in the movie around I'm able to go out.
Speaker 1: And then we took and this was that was interesting.
Speaker 1: I'm surprised you guys were so high on Lamar Lamar Lamar,
Speaker 1: excuse me, but after you talked kind of through his
Speaker 1: athletic traits and how he was miscast, I think that'd
Speaker 1: be perfect run like get him in those past rushing
Speaker 1: situations using like Michael Parsons do be doing? All right,
Speaker 1: that's two dollars. And then Sean Taylor man, that was
Speaker 1: it was nice to get that. I thought they would
Speaker 1: probably got to freaks.
Speaker 4: The icing on the cake right there, you mean. See,
Speaker 4: I didn't even know he's gonna go there because I
Speaker 4: was just saying, pick all the guys we had and
Speaker 4: then go with your ben. You know I'm camp curl. Yeah,
Speaker 4: because he reminds me of that Sean, Like he's like
Speaker 4: a if I had to say, he's probably not as
Speaker 4: Violin and Sean, but when it comes to similar athletic
Speaker 4: ability could cover anybody and play to say the position
Speaker 4: and playing the box, play deep that Sean could do
Speaker 4: that all day long.
Speaker 3: But Sean was just.
Speaker 1: Had a little more edge, like a little bit more
Speaker 1: like I don't but.
Speaker 2: Coach Gibbs used to come out and say, we fine
Speaker 2: to walk through all right, no hitting Sean would come right.
Speaker 2: And Sean was.
Speaker 4: The nicest, meanest person I ever met.
Speaker 3: In my life.
Speaker 2: Look they look.
Speaker 4: Look I love this because, like I tell everybody, for
Speaker 4: I didn't meet Sean until I got here, you know,
Speaker 4: when I met him back at you and when I
Speaker 4: was coming to work out and off seat. But I
Speaker 4: didn't play with him until I got here. My younger
Speaker 4: brother played with him at un Yes, I heard the stories.
Speaker 4: So when I got here, I got to sit next
Speaker 4: to him on the plane. Then I got to sit
Speaker 4: next toim in team meetings. And then the year you
Speaker 4: know that he passed, we was next to each other
Speaker 4: in the training room. He both was injured the first,
Speaker 4: you know, four or five weeks. And when I tell
Speaker 4: you the conversations, that's why I say it like I
Speaker 4: haven't cried in family members funeral. And it was so
Speaker 4: hard just to see a talent like that taking from us,
Speaker 4: a person like that trading from us, like the man
Speaker 4: shared stories with me and got familiar with how I
Speaker 4: was just off of feeling my energy and I felt
Speaker 4: his like he was a great dude, like when dudes
Speaker 4: players viting thats Sean played on the field. You was like,
Speaker 4: everything he does is fishing, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: But he ain't. And the guy was so well spoken,
Speaker 4: soft spoken. I mean he would say things. He would
Speaker 4: look at me like, tell him, wh would you say that?
Speaker 4: I'm like, what the hell you mean when I say
Speaker 4: that like this, because I come off cool on I went,
Speaker 4: don't give it sometime.
Speaker 2: So that's one type dude. He was man like. It was.
Speaker 2: It was. I enjoyed it because that was the first
Speaker 2: time in my life and I didn't play with some
Speaker 2: great safeties. I have mare carrier all of them. I
Speaker 2: never played inside leverage when Sean played, I only played outside.
Speaker 1: Levertages if no one wanted to go in there.
Speaker 2: The receivers was so afraid to run post raps.
Speaker 1: That's a cool story.
Speaker 2: I literally showed, like, why you always outside because you inside. Listen.
Speaker 2: They don't want to They don't want to run skinny posts.
Speaker 2: They don't want to run teo. I watched Teo and
Speaker 2: that's when I started doing it. We played Philly and
Speaker 2: Great Williams say, just sit outside, don't worry about that.
Speaker 2: I sit outside the whole game, and I realized, like,
Speaker 2: they just don't they don't want to go in there.
Speaker 2: About that?
Speaker 1: How about having someone like that on your team? That
Speaker 1: just changes the way offenses are calling games.
Speaker 2: It changes everything. Gosh.
Speaker 1: So I'm excited about this team. I'm really excited about
Speaker 1: this team. And if you think you can make a
Speaker 1: better team, please leave a comment or whatever you're gonna do.
Speaker 1: But I think you're gonna have a hard time beating
Speaker 1: this one. So there we go. All right, Now, let's
Speaker 1: get to this real quick. What do you guys watching
Speaker 1: on TV? I know Tanner's watching everything.
Speaker 3: Yeah, everything right now.
Speaker 2: I just moved to U.
Speaker 4: I watched the movie last night called Bloodhounds. It's a
Speaker 4: voiceover film. It's made in career and it's about these
Speaker 4: two Korean boxers and one of the boxer's mom is
Speaker 4: doing real bad. She's getting you know, conned out of
Speaker 4: her her business. And when I say, these two dudes
Speaker 4: go fight, ain't no guns? Use this straight fists. They
Speaker 4: beating thirty forty people. Man, when I say the action
Speaker 4: is everything, like you want to see these guys, I
Speaker 4: mean fist to come to them.
Speaker 3: They beating people up, You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: I think for me, I got caught up into the
Speaker 2: avatar The Way of Water. I know, the new movie
Speaker 2: that came out. You know, it took him like ten
Speaker 2: years to make the new Avatar.
Speaker 1: I thought you were talking about, Yeah, okay, The Way
Speaker 1: of Water.
Speaker 2: To watch it like nineteen times. This has been old
Speaker 2: Disney plus like I'm telling I'm just telling you. Like
Speaker 2: Cameron the way he does things is totally different. But
Speaker 2: the message that he's getting to cross about what's going on,
Speaker 2: I thought it was great. I cannot stop watching the
Speaker 2: Way of Water. And I know another Avatar is coming
Speaker 2: in like ten years, like thirty three. So I'm waiting
Speaker 2: on it too. The way of face, I'm surprised.
Speaker 1: I'm surprised you're so into it. I don't know why.
Speaker 1: I'm just surprised, but I like all.
Speaker 2: Like I'm the only child and I was raised by
Speaker 2: the TV, so I watch everything. It's nothing on TV
Speaker 2: that I don't watch. I can go from watching Medlock
Speaker 2: to bed Balls like I can, like.
Speaker 1: You have you do have a good file on on
Speaker 1: on films and TV show. Yeah, absolutely, I.
Speaker 3: Keep forgetting fred only child. I talk hell, you talking
Speaker 3: to the wall.
Speaker 2: That wall broke in.
Speaker 6: You hit me when you left that wall breathe words loyah,
Speaker 6: he left the house, glad he gone to college.
Speaker 3: Let the wall breathe.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. So I just watched the new Dungeons
Speaker 1: and Dragons movie.
Speaker 3: You get checked that out.
Speaker 2: Watch the Dungeons and movie. I liked it.
Speaker 1: I thought it was funny.
Speaker 2: It's more funny than serious. But I also wasn't being
Speaker 2: on the Dungeon and Dragons game.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was more of a give me the Madden, Yeah,
Speaker 2: give me NBA Live, give me sports games them of
Speaker 2: my game. But I did used to like James bond
Speaker 2: double O seven sixty four yees on the sixty four.
Speaker 2: That's showing age, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, or you could call I mean back in those
Speaker 4: done in dragon days, though, we had things like contra
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. Yeah, Contra was you know,
Speaker 4: contract was like one of those things that can compare.
Speaker 1: He don't know what is what is contra?
Speaker 2: Like I think we'd be forgetting logans. Come on, forget
Speaker 2: logan just looks over all. I forgot to get you
Speaker 2: about what my ten years? Ten years? Yeld he don't
Speaker 2: know nothing about it.
Speaker 3: What do you older?
Speaker 1: Your thirties? Contra forty six?
Speaker 3: I'm forty four.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm thirty thirty six? Yeahs so yeah about eight years?
Speaker 2: Yeah you got old time?
Speaker 1: I look over yeah, I look old. I'll tell you
Speaker 1: this my rookie year. I went out to a bar
Speaker 1: with a guy, Eric Cook, and this girl comes up
Speaker 1: and then she goes like how old are you? And
Speaker 1: I was like, I was like, how old do you
Speaker 1: think I am? She's like forty two. I was twenty
Speaker 1: four at the time, and I was like, wow.
Speaker 3: Do you know what.
Speaker 2: Literally making it?
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, all right, I need to save
Speaker 1: my life here, all right, so hey, make sure you
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