WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Practice Standouts 0:00:11.360 --> 0:00:13.920 The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:13.920 --> 0:00:24.840 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's Talking Cowboys 0:00:25.320 --> 0:00:28.680 training live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at the 0:00:28.760 --> 0:00:41.839 Star in Frisco. It is a rare Sunday edition of 0:00:42.000 --> 0:00:46.000 Talking Cowboys presented by Ganko on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. 0:00:46.000 --> 0:00:48.880 As we are forty six days away from kickoff for 0:00:48.960 --> 0:00:52.600 the twenty twenty one NFL season and the Cowboys certainly 0:00:53.120 --> 0:00:56.840 underway here at training camp twenty twenty one. Kyle Yeoman's 0:00:56.840 --> 0:00:59.880 Mickey's Bagnola. We've got Rob Phillips and Rob how about this, 0:01:00.120 --> 0:01:02.800 We've got Spagnola on time today. I found him. I 0:01:02.800 --> 0:01:04.920 found him in the cafeteria this morning. I said, we 0:01:04.959 --> 0:01:06.880 do have a show, so let's go. And I followed 0:01:06.920 --> 0:01:09.640 him to his room and made sure that he followed 0:01:09.640 --> 0:01:11.440 me to the trailer and then we got out here. 0:01:11.480 --> 0:01:15.160 I needed no help, did you? I needed no help. 0:01:15.240 --> 0:01:17.600 You just needed a nudge. I was up. I gave 0:01:17.600 --> 0:01:20.920 you a n reminder, No I knew. Did you get 0:01:20.920 --> 0:01:23.399 your bike ride? Sunrise bike ride in Today was a 0:01:23.480 --> 0:01:27.199 day of rest for these old lakes. Okay, that's that's good. 0:01:27.200 --> 0:01:30.320 They need that every one. So it's regeneration day, right, 0:01:31.120 --> 0:01:37.319 Regen and McCarthy Regen today absolutely, Oh, McCarthy and Mickey 0:01:37.480 --> 0:01:42.319 in cahoots with the regeneration schedule, but there is no 0:01:42.360 --> 0:01:45.200 regeneration this weekend for the Cowboys. We're kind of sandwiched 0:01:45.240 --> 0:01:48.240 in between a couple of practices. It's the first days 0:01:48.240 --> 0:01:51.800 of back to back practices out here in Oxnard. Practice 0:01:51.880 --> 0:01:55.520 number two yesterday. Any general thoughts to get us kicked 0:01:55.560 --> 0:01:58.880 off of what you saw yesterday, Rob Well, I thought 0:01:58.920 --> 0:02:02.680 the second practice was I don't want it's too early 0:02:02.720 --> 0:02:05.000 to say win for defense, win for offense, but I 0:02:05.000 --> 0:02:07.960 thought Dak Prescott was terrific, especially in the two minute work. 0:02:09.000 --> 0:02:12.200 I think he had one in completion and probably a 0:02:12.240 --> 0:02:15.400 touchdown pass. They didn't give the last throw to Noah 0:02:15.400 --> 0:02:17.120 Brown because he was clearly out of bounds, had a 0:02:17.120 --> 0:02:19.000 great catch to go get it, but he might have 0:02:19.040 --> 0:02:21.920 scored the play before. But I just thought Dak showed 0:02:22.440 --> 0:02:26.000 really good command in that in that scenario, and you 0:02:26.040 --> 0:02:29.200 know connection with his wide receivers. You know, he hasn't 0:02:29.200 --> 0:02:33.119 been in team drills since really before the injury last October, 0:02:33.160 --> 0:02:34.839 so this is kind of new for him to get 0:02:34.840 --> 0:02:37.120 back into you know, full practice, and I thought it 0:02:37.160 --> 0:02:38.600 was a good day for him, And there were certain 0:02:38.639 --> 0:02:41.320 defensive players that definitely stood out as well. Yeah, it 0:02:41.480 --> 0:02:45.320 wasn't eleven on nine or whatever they did in OTA's 0:02:45.400 --> 0:02:50.040 yea mini camp, or the defensive line wasn't there, and 0:02:50.120 --> 0:02:53.040 so he had a little clutter around him. And you know, 0:02:53.080 --> 0:02:56.600 it takes a while once when you haven't played quarterback 0:02:56.680 --> 0:02:59.400 to get back on the field and see things. You 0:02:59.720 --> 0:03:02.400 got to get used to all the congestion out there. 0:03:02.440 --> 0:03:04.920 And you know, you can do all the drills you want, 0:03:04.960 --> 0:03:07.160 but you got to be out there and see things. 0:03:07.240 --> 0:03:10.120 And that's why you know, he knows. You know, it 0:03:10.160 --> 0:03:12.800 may not be the first preseason game. He needs to 0:03:12.840 --> 0:03:16.680 play in preseason, there's no doubt about it. I remember 0:03:16.680 --> 0:03:21.440 when Tony Romo had missed the one of the seasons 0:03:21.480 --> 0:03:24.360 that he missed, and his point was, I need to 0:03:24.400 --> 0:03:28.320 play in preseason because I need to remind myself of 0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:31.679 the congestion. I need to remind myself that I got 0:03:31.680 --> 0:03:34.639 to look to see where the play clock is and 0:03:35.000 --> 0:03:38.920 be mindful of the play clock and just get used 0:03:38.960 --> 0:03:43.400 to being on the field with everybody and all the noise. 0:03:43.800 --> 0:03:49.120 And he thought preseason was important for him. Now unfortunately 0:03:49.160 --> 0:03:51.480 he did a little too much the one preseason and 0:03:51.640 --> 0:03:54.920 got hurt, but yeah, it's necessary, So yeah, I thought 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:58.040 it was a better day for him, and then just 0:03:58.200 --> 0:04:00.880 all around, probably a better day for the wide receivers. 0:04:01.200 --> 0:04:07.400 Um Cedee Lamb with another one handed catch, Wilson pulled 0:04:07.440 --> 0:04:15.320 one in um Um the rookie Fijokou Huh nice nice 0:04:15.400 --> 0:04:18.920 deep ball catch. So yeah. But then the defense made 0:04:18.920 --> 0:04:22.480 some plays too. I finally saw Calvin Joseph get a 0:04:22.480 --> 0:04:24.839 hand on on a football or two, so that was 0:04:24.920 --> 0:04:28.320 somewhat new because we haven't seen him practice and it's 0:04:28.360 --> 0:04:31.240 gonna take him some time too, So yeah, I thought, 0:04:31.320 --> 0:04:33.000 all in all, it was a it was a pretty 0:04:33.000 --> 0:04:36.359 good day. And by the way, the uh the coaching 0:04:36.400 --> 0:04:41.320 staff uh or the training staff probably would uh pick 0:04:41.360 --> 0:04:43.400 a bone with you about the first back to back 0:04:43.480 --> 0:04:47.480 practice because they consider the conditioning day like a practice 0:04:47.839 --> 0:04:51.600 for all the running they did. So they did running practice, 0:04:52.080 --> 0:04:57.799 region practice practice now today before tomorrow's official day off 0:04:57.880 --> 0:05:01.040 because they don't have to like go to meetings or 0:05:01.080 --> 0:05:04.240 anything out the condition and run. Yeah. One more thing 0:05:04.279 --> 0:05:07.599 about DAK because Kellen Moore said something interesting during his 0:05:07.680 --> 0:05:11.520 podium talk about how as a quarterback you want to 0:05:11.520 --> 0:05:14.440 get hit coming off an injury. It's it feels good, 0:05:14.440 --> 0:05:16.360 it feels like you're you're kind of knocked back into 0:05:16.360 --> 0:05:18.520 the game. I don't want to see too much of 0:05:18.560 --> 0:05:20.799 that from Dak Prescott. And that's my question to Mickey 0:05:20.880 --> 0:05:22.520 is like, how how much do you want to see 0:05:22.600 --> 0:05:24.880 him in preseason? Because yeah, I agree with you, he 0:05:25.000 --> 0:05:27.279 probably it's it feels a game, get back out there. 0:05:27.320 --> 0:05:31.240 But I don't want him tested too. I can probably 0:05:31.360 --> 0:05:35.160 manage that by the plays I call as an offensive coordinator. 0:05:35.480 --> 0:05:38.159 I can get a couple of quick throws, a couple 0:05:38.160 --> 0:05:41.200 of quick throws over the middle. I don't want him 0:05:41.240 --> 0:05:46.200 see him doing scramble drill in preseason games one. That's 0:05:46.200 --> 0:05:49.279 where Tony got in trouble. I don't want to see 0:05:49.320 --> 0:05:51.560 him running with the ball. You know, you just throw 0:05:51.600 --> 0:05:54.080 it away or throw it in the ground and discuss, 0:05:54.720 --> 0:05:58.200 uh that play has gone away. In training camp, Troy 0:05:58.279 --> 0:06:01.960 Aikman was great at it. When he would get pissed 0:06:01.960 --> 0:06:05.000 off at guy's not doing what they were supposed to do, 0:06:05.320 --> 0:06:08.360 or they didn't run a right route, or the blocking 0:06:08.480 --> 0:06:11.200 wasn't right, he'd throw the ball on the ground and 0:06:11.200 --> 0:06:14.080 then you'd hear him cussing, like come on, you know, 0:06:14.240 --> 0:06:16.640 but he would when you saw him throw the ball 0:06:16.640 --> 0:06:20.000 in the ground, you knew he wasn't happy. Sounds like you, yeah, 0:06:20.040 --> 0:06:22.800 you're not happy with us. That's right, I'll throw the 0:06:22.880 --> 0:06:26.600 mic in the ground whenever we come on, let's go 0:06:26.839 --> 0:06:29.120 take our break, And Mickey's just throwing his head set 0:06:29.160 --> 0:06:31.440 across the table and beamers over in the corner, like 0:06:31.560 --> 0:06:35.200 covering his ears for safety. But continuing on with a 0:06:35.240 --> 0:06:37.800 little bit of this Dak Prescott talk and the importance 0:06:37.839 --> 0:06:41.080 of getting those reps in the preseason, because sure, I 0:06:41.120 --> 0:06:42.920 don't know if there's been a guy in the past 0:06:43.000 --> 0:06:45.600 that's been so open about flipping a switch between practice 0:06:45.600 --> 0:06:49.200 in the game, about forcing things and trying some things 0:06:49.200 --> 0:06:51.719 out in practice and kind of pushing the limits to 0:06:51.880 --> 0:06:55.360 know whenever game time comes around, then that that's what 0:06:55.440 --> 0:06:57.159 you can and cannot do and it allows you to 0:06:57.160 --> 0:07:00.840 be successful. However, he hasn't played football and almost a 0:07:00.960 --> 0:07:04.159 full year, so maybe he needs to go and look 0:07:04.160 --> 0:07:06.720 at the timing and look at the decision making that 0:07:06.760 --> 0:07:09.320 you have to have against an actual NFL defense in 0:07:09.400 --> 0:07:12.520 real game time action like a preseason instead of maybe 0:07:12.600 --> 0:07:14.640 sitting out and just having one drive here in one 0:07:14.760 --> 0:07:17.560 drive there, and then I don't know, maybe he does 0:07:17.720 --> 0:07:19.440 need more snaps along the way. I would take it 0:07:19.480 --> 0:07:23.280 one step further and say there are half a dozen 0:07:23.360 --> 0:07:27.520 players on the starting offense that didn't play either in 0:07:27.520 --> 0:07:30.760 a year or Zack Martin missed six games and Zeke 0:07:30.880 --> 0:07:33.560 was playing hurt a lot of last season, especially down 0:07:33.640 --> 0:07:36.720 the stretch. And we're talking about Tyrn Smith, Lyle Collins, 0:07:37.400 --> 0:07:40.440 Blake Jarwin. So I mean they as a group, I 0:07:40.480 --> 0:07:42.560 think it would be beneficial to get out there have 0:07:42.680 --> 0:07:45.440 a nice efficient driver too in preseason. I think that's 0:07:45.520 --> 0:07:48.440 that's good Hall of Fame game. I mean, typically that's 0:07:48.480 --> 0:07:50.880 a that's reserved for the young guys, especially back in 0:07:50.880 --> 0:07:53.320 the day when it was five preseason games. But yeah, 0:07:53.360 --> 0:07:54.920 I think at some point it'll be good for the 0:07:55.080 --> 0:07:57.120 entire group to just get out there against an opponent 0:07:57.160 --> 0:07:58.680 for a little bit. No, I think you're right, and 0:07:59.120 --> 0:08:01.600 probably not the Hall of Fame game, Yeah, probably not. 0:08:01.680 --> 0:08:04.840 Probably that's gonna get punted right, But after that, No, 0:08:05.000 --> 0:08:07.240 they need to be out there. I mean there's you 0:08:07.320 --> 0:08:09.920 can't You're right, you can't just turn it on especially 0:08:09.960 --> 0:08:13.960 at the quarterback position, right, you got to play quarterback. Um. 0:08:14.320 --> 0:08:17.080 I remember, and I think I've told you this story 0:08:17.160 --> 0:08:25.120 on one summer US probably after they like around ninety 0:08:25.160 --> 0:08:29.480 four and Emmett Smith had won a couple rushing titles 0:08:29.640 --> 0:08:32.760 and they basically weren't going to play him in preseason. 0:08:33.320 --> 0:08:35.160 And so I go up to him. I said, well, 0:08:35.160 --> 0:08:37.400 don't you have to like get out there and get 0:08:37.480 --> 0:08:39.560 used to getting hit again? And he looked at me, 0:08:39.600 --> 0:08:41.640 he goes, are you crazy. I know what it feels 0:08:41.679 --> 0:08:44.079 like to get hit. I don't need to be reminded, right, 0:08:44.360 --> 0:08:47.400 And I said, okay, I retract the question, your honor. 0:08:47.920 --> 0:08:51.480 Uh and uh. It was pretty funny. And he had 0:08:51.480 --> 0:08:54.600 a point. I think from a running back standpoint, whatever 0:08:54.640 --> 0:08:57.839 you're doing in practice, you're you're getting hit a little 0:08:57.840 --> 0:09:01.679 bit because back then they actually hitting practice, yeah, and 0:09:02.240 --> 0:09:04.520 took people to the ground at times a little bit 0:09:04.520 --> 0:09:07.559 different than the quarterback position now, where they're protected in practice, 0:09:07.600 --> 0:09:10.079 you don't actually have that physicality back and forth, and 0:09:10.160 --> 0:09:12.040 maybe it does take a little bit of an adjustment 0:09:12.080 --> 0:09:14.280 period to finally get back and get used to that. 0:09:14.400 --> 0:09:17.120 Now switching over to the defensive side of the football, 0:09:17.160 --> 0:09:20.600 of course, practice one was a positive uptick for the defense, 0:09:20.600 --> 0:09:22.360 and I think the offense kind of got back after 0:09:22.440 --> 0:09:25.960 him yesterday. Even Zeke talked about it in his press 0:09:26.000 --> 0:09:29.800 conference after the first day on the gridiron. He said, Hey, 0:09:29.880 --> 0:09:31.800 it was nice seeing the defense get after us a 0:09:31.800 --> 0:09:33.600 little bit. It was nice to have a little pushback, 0:09:33.640 --> 0:09:36.640 and then turning around yesterday, I think the offense may 0:09:36.679 --> 0:09:39.880 have had the upper hand rop Yeah, I do. I think. 0:09:40.080 --> 0:09:42.400 You know, we touched on the connection between Dak and 0:09:42.400 --> 0:09:45.400 his receivers. I thought there were some nice throws the 0:09:45.480 --> 0:09:48.840 last couple days by Garrett Gilbert, by Benda Nucci. We 0:09:48.840 --> 0:09:52.839 didn't see Cooper rush yesterday. Apparently he's got a tight back, 0:09:53.160 --> 0:09:55.719 so we'll see how that goes day to day here 0:09:55.960 --> 0:09:58.880 going forward. They do practice again today, But yeah, I 0:09:58.920 --> 0:10:00.720 thought it was just more a fish in the drills 0:10:00.760 --> 0:10:03.480 from the offense. But they're defensively. There were guys Mick 0:10:03.559 --> 0:10:06.720 that continued to stand out. I mean, Trayvon Dix continues 0:10:06.760 --> 0:10:09.960 to make plays on the ball. Um, Micah Parsons continues 0:10:09.960 --> 0:10:14.000 to be everywhere, uh, working different drills. Um. You'll see 0:10:14.080 --> 0:10:16.680 him rushing off the edge, You'll see him covering fifty 0:10:16.720 --> 0:10:18.960 yards down field in a seven on seven drill to 0:10:18.960 --> 0:10:23.080 go break up a pass um and Randy Gregory is 0:10:23.200 --> 0:10:26.040 looking and I again say it, let's say it, Rod, 0:10:26.160 --> 0:10:27.800 Let's just let's just put it out there, say well, 0:10:27.840 --> 0:10:29.760 we have everything has to be a disclaimer. They're not 0:10:29.800 --> 0:10:31.680 in pad. We've been here. We've been here two days. 0:10:31.960 --> 0:10:34.560 But yeah, dinner last night, we're talking about, like, you know, 0:10:34.640 --> 0:10:37.760 what's what where's the cap room to resign him to 0:10:37.800 --> 0:10:39.640 a big deal after the season, because he's gonna have 0:10:39.679 --> 0:10:42.680 a big ear after get it done. Yeah yeah, or 0:10:42.720 --> 0:10:45.240 now with that too, Brad Sham was giving him a 0:10:45.280 --> 0:10:48.079 gold jacket yesterday while we were watching practice. That's who 0:10:48.080 --> 0:10:49.640 I had dinner with last night, and that's what we 0:10:49.640 --> 0:10:52.199 were talking about. Maybe that rubbed up a little bit, 0:10:52.280 --> 0:10:54.199 but I mean, say with your chest, rob, I mean, 0:10:54.400 --> 0:10:56.880 Brandy Gregory's gonna have a big ear, right. I mean 0:10:57.120 --> 0:10:59.760 what we've seen absolutely and what really what we saw 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:04.280 in ten games last year with twenty snaps a game, 0:11:05.120 --> 0:11:07.760 you extrapolate that over sixteen games he had three and 0:11:07.760 --> 0:11:09.800 a half sacks. He can be a double digit sack 0:11:09.840 --> 0:11:12.160 guy for this group, and I think he needs to 0:11:12.160 --> 0:11:14.600 be because it's not a super deep position that they have. 0:11:14.880 --> 0:11:17.440 That's another mistake they made last year after he was 0:11:17.480 --> 0:11:20.080 eligible to play, giving him only twenty snaps a game. 0:11:20.520 --> 0:11:22.920 Are you serious? He was the best thing they had 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:25.600 out there rushing the quarterback, and they were kind of 0:11:25.640 --> 0:11:29.640 just gingerly using him. Guys might have missed this because 0:11:30.000 --> 0:11:32.840 I wrote the column about him just before we kind 0:11:32.840 --> 0:11:37.480 of all went on vacation, but I basically pointed out 0:11:37.640 --> 0:11:41.000 he was my mister relevant. He needed to become relevant 0:11:41.040 --> 0:11:44.000 this year and take over and take that step to 0:11:44.040 --> 0:11:46.760 the point where they thought what they were getting when 0:11:46.760 --> 0:11:50.120 they drafted him in the second round in twenty fifteen. 0:11:50.280 --> 0:11:53.200 He needs he needs to be a stud out there. 0:11:53.240 --> 0:11:56.960 They need that, and from everything we're seeing, it's only 0:11:57.000 --> 0:12:01.680 two practices. Pads aren't on, but boy, he is active, 0:12:01.720 --> 0:12:05.560 and I'm not talking about just rushing the quarterback. He 0:12:05.800 --> 0:12:10.199 stopped two runs that were major for a right defensive 0:12:10.320 --> 0:12:12.960 end to set the edge. The first time they tried 0:12:13.000 --> 0:12:16.000 to get Zeke outside and he turned them back inside 0:12:16.040 --> 0:12:18.719 because he beat him to the outside spot. And then 0:12:18.760 --> 0:12:21.199 the second time they tried to run an end a 0:12:21.280 --> 0:12:25.120 round to suck in the defensive lineman going one way, 0:12:25.320 --> 0:12:27.640 and they I believe it was CD was coming the 0:12:27.720 --> 0:12:31.280 other way, and he would have dropped him for maybe 0:12:31.280 --> 0:12:33.920 a five or ten yard loss on that end a 0:12:34.000 --> 0:12:36.120 round because he jumped on the outside and he was 0:12:36.160 --> 0:12:38.840 fast enough and quick enough. I'll tell you what. It's 0:12:38.840 --> 0:12:41.280 a good start to training camp for him. And if 0:12:41.320 --> 0:12:44.760 you consider this is his first training camp since twenty 0:12:44.840 --> 0:12:48.960 eighteen and his first offseason since his rookie year, and 0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:53.560 I think it's starting to show that boy he's six four. 0:12:54.360 --> 0:12:56.600 I don't know what they've got him listed weight, maybe 0:12:56.640 --> 0:13:01.440 about two two fifty two sixty, and his body is 0:13:01.440 --> 0:13:04.319 completely different than when they got him at two fifty eight. 0:13:04.360 --> 0:13:06.520 And you remember when he got here he was two 0:13:06.559 --> 0:13:08.920 forty and by the end of training camp he was 0:13:08.960 --> 0:13:11.920 two thirty because he couldn't keep the weight on. And 0:13:12.320 --> 0:13:15.080 he just looks he looks like he should be in 0:13:15.200 --> 0:13:19.120 number ninety four. By the way. Yeah, and you mentioned 0:13:19.200 --> 0:13:22.559 it's a bold statement, Mickey Spagnola. That's high prey here. 0:13:22.920 --> 0:13:26.040 I mean you mentioned his run defense, which people get 0:13:26.120 --> 0:13:28.960 that gets lost with the Marcus Lawrence too, because that's 0:13:29.000 --> 0:13:31.040 a part of the position that nobody talks about. But 0:13:31.080 --> 0:13:33.480 I mean I do focus on his pass rush ability 0:13:33.520 --> 0:13:35.080 for us why I asked Dan Quinn about it the 0:13:35.080 --> 0:13:37.080 other day because if you watch him in these and 0:13:37.120 --> 0:13:38.920 we've seen him play obviously, but you watch him in 0:13:38.960 --> 0:13:43.200 these pass rustrials, it is rare bend around the edge, 0:13:43.320 --> 0:13:46.439 the way he can bend and get inside to the quarterback. 0:13:46.679 --> 0:13:49.320 I've tweeted this last night. I haven't seen the Cowboys 0:13:49.400 --> 0:13:51.400 rusher do that since I've been here. The marcut swears 0:13:51.400 --> 0:13:55.199 in the Hall of Fame, better player, but it bendy. 0:13:55.320 --> 0:13:59.080 He has rare bend. He really does. And like Mickey said, 0:13:59.120 --> 0:14:02.120 it just comes down to him being available, and based 0:14:02.160 --> 0:14:05.280 on what they did or didn't do in free agency 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:09.000 in the draft, they're counting on him to play most 0:14:09.040 --> 0:14:11.960 of the snaps and all the games at right defensive 0:14:12.040 --> 0:14:14.679 end because it's not it's not a super deposition. They 0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:17.520 addressed tackle. We talked about that the other show, but 0:14:17.640 --> 0:14:19.360 not as much on the on the edge. And Michael 0:14:19.360 --> 0:14:21.360 Parsons can help supplement that a little bit. We could 0:14:21.400 --> 0:14:24.040 just name him the rubber band Man. I like that 0:14:24.120 --> 0:14:27.280 because he's big. I like that a lot. Before we 0:14:27.320 --> 0:14:29.880 take this to break, I want to kind of keep 0:14:29.920 --> 0:14:32.440 this going and look on the positive side of things. 0:14:32.480 --> 0:14:35.760 What can the ceiling be for both Randy Gregory and 0:14:35.800 --> 0:14:37.560 DeMarcus Lawrence if they're both on the field at the 0:14:37.600 --> 0:14:40.880 same time, because that's that's a problem for offenses, that's 0:14:40.920 --> 0:14:43.600 going to be an issue. What is the ceiling if 0:14:43.600 --> 0:14:45.640 you had to put those guys out there and they're 0:14:45.680 --> 0:14:48.080 both healthy and starting. I know de Marcus Lawrence is 0:14:48.080 --> 0:14:50.760 on the publist at the moment. He should be ready 0:14:50.760 --> 0:14:52.600 to go by week one is what we've been told. 0:14:52.680 --> 0:14:55.800 So if they're both out on the field, what is 0:14:55.840 --> 0:15:00.880 the top of what they could do? Make? Oh this team? 0:15:01.600 --> 0:15:05.800 If they do what we think they should do, then 0:15:06.240 --> 0:15:10.200 their their sack totals as a team is going to 0:15:10.360 --> 0:15:13.000 rise greatly. I think it could double from last year. 0:15:15.120 --> 0:15:18.880 They ended up with thirty I think thirty thirty five, 0:15:19.000 --> 0:15:23.360 thirty seven something like which is not not good. It's 0:15:23.480 --> 0:15:28.160 it's almost average. Uh. It needs to be in the fifties. 0:15:28.600 --> 0:15:32.320 And and if they can do that together, uh, and 0:15:32.560 --> 0:15:37.360 DeMarcus Lawrence has his Robin on the other side, Um, 0:15:37.400 --> 0:15:42.240 you know, they could possibly both reach double digits. Thirty 0:15:42.240 --> 0:15:44.720 one sacks last year for the Cowboys, I mean back 0:15:44.920 --> 0:15:47.400 they haven't gotten sacks as a team in the fifties. 0:15:47.400 --> 0:15:50.320 Probably since Wade Phillips was head coached, probably probably two 0:15:50.320 --> 0:15:52.440 thousand and nine. Yeah, my guess is, do you ware 0:15:52.480 --> 0:15:55.680 in his prime Anthony Spencer was a very good player, 0:15:55.720 --> 0:15:57.400 And I think that was the last time they had 0:15:57.800 --> 0:16:01.040 two guys with double digit sacks. I think that's the ceiling. 0:16:01.080 --> 0:16:03.240 I think that's you know, with a healthy to Marcus 0:16:03.320 --> 0:16:06.520 Lawrence and Randy Gregory playing an entire season, hopefully, I 0:16:06.560 --> 0:16:09.040 think that's definitely possible. We got a mailback question about 0:16:09.080 --> 0:16:12.000 like the over under on between those two guys and 0:16:12.080 --> 0:16:14.920 Micah Parsons. Could they get like twenty five sacks just 0:16:14.960 --> 0:16:17.040 between the three of them. I think it's possible. I think, 0:16:17.440 --> 0:16:19.040 I mean, it's possible, but a lot of things have 0:16:19.080 --> 0:16:22.040 to go right, and you know, it's just it's hard 0:16:22.080 --> 0:16:24.800 to project a little bit because Randy has played so little. 0:16:24.920 --> 0:16:27.880 He's played thirty games in his career, but he the 0:16:28.000 --> 0:16:30.600 talent is there, it's so obvious. You also remember that 0:16:30.640 --> 0:16:34.120 this is going to be a seventeen game regular season. Yeah, 0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:37.040 you could double that number to sixty plus. Yeah, well 0:16:37.040 --> 0:16:39.960 I really wanted to. It's up the annie. Then we 0:16:39.960 --> 0:16:41.920 could turn it up all the way. Yeah, beat five 0:16:42.000 --> 0:16:45.120 more than we'd predicted the five sacks a game from 0:16:45.120 --> 0:16:48.400 Mickey's bagnola. The other thing, too, is can the offense 0:16:48.480 --> 0:16:52.520 stay healthy and build leads where your defense can tee 0:16:52.520 --> 0:16:54.280 off a little can get after when you're playing from 0:16:54.280 --> 0:16:57.080 behind like you did every every game last year, That's 0:16:57.080 --> 0:16:59.320 a little difficult to do. I saw an interesting thing 0:16:59.480 --> 0:17:04.920 after practice. I hung out back down the other end 0:17:05.520 --> 0:17:08.720 and we had a little one on one schooling going 0:17:08.760 --> 0:17:13.800 on um taught by Professor Tyron Smith to the young 0:17:14.080 --> 0:17:20.440 Micah Parsons. They were practicing his get off in pass rush, 0:17:20.480 --> 0:17:25.480 and Tyron was trying to show him that if you're 0:17:25.480 --> 0:17:29.560 gonna use that inside spin move, you gotta make contact 0:17:29.600 --> 0:17:32.680 with me before you start spinning, because if you start 0:17:32.760 --> 0:17:37.080 spinning before we have contact, I'm just sitting here waiting 0:17:37.119 --> 0:17:40.280 on you and I'll just punch you out. So he 0:17:40.359 --> 0:17:43.120 was making sure that he makes sure you get into 0:17:43.160 --> 0:17:47.000 the left tackle before you start spinning. You know, it's 0:17:47.000 --> 0:17:50.440 sort of like that was it blazing Saddles when the 0:17:50.680 --> 0:17:54.040 guy was you know, the sword, he was zipping it around. 0:17:54.359 --> 0:17:57.480 I never saw it, and and the and the guy 0:17:57.560 --> 0:17:59.560 he was zipping an ats looking at him where he 0:17:59.640 --> 0:18:01.920 quiz and then he picks out a gun and shoots him. 0:18:03.400 --> 0:18:07.280 So the point is, you got you got with this. 0:18:07.400 --> 0:18:11.440 You don't be doing all these fancy moves when you're 0:18:11.600 --> 0:18:13.720 three yards away from the guy you're trying to beat. 0:18:13.800 --> 0:18:15.760 You got to get into him. So then he got 0:18:15.760 --> 0:18:17.960 finally got him to get into him on the spin move, 0:18:18.200 --> 0:18:19.760 and then he was showing him how he's got to 0:18:19.840 --> 0:18:23.080 use his hands to knock my hands off. And they 0:18:23.119 --> 0:18:26.240 went at it for a good ten ten minutes and 0:18:26.760 --> 0:18:31.679 finally near the end he got Tyrn and Tyrn just 0:18:31.680 --> 0:18:34.080 sit there and smile like a proud papa, right. And 0:18:34.600 --> 0:18:37.800 it was very interesting though that he pulled him aside 0:18:37.800 --> 0:18:40.480 and they actually worked on that. That's an awesome note 0:18:40.520 --> 0:18:43.640 because that also just tells me that Michael Parson's book 0:18:43.800 --> 0:18:47.520 book into his practice yesterday with getting out there early. 0:18:47.560 --> 0:18:49.359 He was working with Dan Quinn. There's a video on 0:18:49.400 --> 0:18:52.199 my Twitter of that working on his pass rush move right, 0:18:52.240 --> 0:18:54.439 and then he book ends it with having Tyron Smith 0:18:54.600 --> 0:18:56.720 talking about his pass right. See, and the key thing 0:18:56.800 --> 0:19:00.080 for him is if if they're gonna play at the 0:19:00.080 --> 0:19:03.480 way they did in standard defense with three linebackers out there, 0:19:03.560 --> 0:19:06.879 they had him on the strong side and when he 0:19:06.960 --> 0:19:09.119 was on the strong side. He was playing on the 0:19:09.160 --> 0:19:12.000 line of scrimmage, like right in front of the tight end, 0:19:12.359 --> 0:19:15.679 so that lets the offense know, Okay, is he going 0:19:15.720 --> 0:19:18.760 to cover my guy one on one or is he coming? 0:19:19.280 --> 0:19:23.360 And I thought it really looks like an interesting possibility 0:19:23.359 --> 0:19:25.760 because he was running with those tight ends. By the way, 0:19:25.880 --> 0:19:29.000 it's almost like, well, heck running with the tight ends 0:19:29.000 --> 0:19:33.679 on that one scramble drill ceedee. Lamb was screwing around 0:19:33.720 --> 0:19:35.520 at the line of scrimmage and all of a sudden, 0:19:35.600 --> 0:19:39.679 heat takes off and just goes deep almost to the 0:19:39.760 --> 0:19:43.480 end zone. And who's running with him Michael Parsons eleven. 0:19:43.520 --> 0:19:46.720 First step it was one number one, number one right 0:19:47.040 --> 0:19:50.000 draft choices, Yeah, step back to back down the field. 0:19:50.040 --> 0:19:52.840 He's been lined up with Zeke two covering Zeke, which 0:19:52.920 --> 0:19:55.280 is no easy task as well. I mean, he's just 0:19:55.440 --> 0:19:58.359 his versatility is uncommon. It really, it really is. I 0:19:58.480 --> 0:20:01.280 was just I was just wish and no offense to 0:20:01.320 --> 0:20:04.520 anybody that anybody that said, now they shouldn't have taken 0:20:04.520 --> 0:20:06.760 a linebacker that high. You'd be out here and watch 0:20:06.800 --> 0:20:08.880 what this guy's doing. 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