1 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: Hey guys, welcome to I've never said this before with 2 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: me Tommy di Dario. Today's guest is the talented actress, 3 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: singer and songwriter Laura Morano. Laura first became widely known 4 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: from her starring role as Ali in Disney Channel's international 5 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: hit TV series Austin and Ali, but over the last 6 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 1: few years, she has become one of the reign and 7 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: queens of Netflix, starring in movies like The Royal Treatment, 8 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 1: A Cinderella Story, Christmas Wish, The Perfect Date, and the 9 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 1: upcoming Choose Love. You can't help but smile when you 10 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: watch Laura on screen. Her joy is infectious, and anything 11 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: that she's in you were going to want to watch. 12 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 1: Trust me on that now. As a singer and songwriter, 13 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: Laura has amassed over thirty million streams across all platforms, 14 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: and that's not even including YouTube. She is known for 15 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 1: her soulful, soothing, relatable, and really open and vulnerable lyrics 16 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: that is all on display in her debut album out 17 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 1: now called I May be an Actress, but I can't 18 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:09,759 Speaker 1: fake how I feel. Oh. I just love saying that name. 19 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 1: It is so much fun. Today we are diving into 20 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: the many themes throughout this album, themes that you and 21 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: I both can relate to. This is a side of 22 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: Laura that you have never heard before. And when I 23 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: tell you that I hit play on this album and 24 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: I listened to the entire twenty three songs from start 25 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: to finish in one sitting, well, I'm not exaggerating. That 26 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:34,759 Speaker 1: is how brilliant this body of work is. So let's 27 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: see if today we can get Laura to say something 28 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: that she's never said before. Laura, Laura, Laura, it is 29 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 1: so good to see you. 30 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 2: It is so good to see you. Tell me, god, 31 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 2: how long has it been since we did an interview? 32 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: Too long? Too long? 33 00:01:56,280 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 2: Too long? Always too long. I'men your face. I see 34 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 2: you on Instagram all the time, so I always Instagram 35 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 2: is so funny because I feel like I've seen you recently, 36 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,359 Speaker 2: but not actually like that. So excited to talk to 37 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 2: you and see you. 38 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: I know, I'm so happy to be hanging out with you, 39 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: especially because we are celebrating something incredible, incredible, incredible, your 40 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: new album. Oh my god, it is so good. We're 41 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 1: gonna die here. There's so much to talk about with 42 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: this album. I'm so proud of you. I'm so excited 43 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 1: for you. Now, let's bring it back for a minute. 44 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: So after about eight years of creation, right and kind 45 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: of formulating all the lyrics and the songs together and 46 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:39,119 Speaker 1: really putting together what you wanted to put out into 47 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 1: the world, your album is finally here, and I am 48 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: obsessed with the name. Why don't you say the name? 49 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 2: So my album is called I may be an actress, 50 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 2: but I can't sake how I feel. It is such 51 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 2: a long title. If you have talked to me, like 52 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 2: even I don't know two years ago, I was I 53 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 2: saying eight years ago, But even like two years ago, 54 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 2: even a year and a half ago, I never in 55 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 2: a million years would have thought that I would have 56 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 2: named my album this, and never would have thought that 57 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:14,799 Speaker 2: I would have named my album like such a long title, 58 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:18,839 Speaker 2: like a full on sentence. But it just felt right. 59 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 2: It is a lyric and an unreleased song, well now released. 60 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 2: Everything's released called the first song on the album, Can't 61 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:30,119 Speaker 2: Keep Waiting. And when I wrote it, I remember thinking like, oh, 62 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 2: this is a special line. I don't know if I 63 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 2: first wrote it, I knew immediately like, oh, this gonna 64 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 2: be the name of my album, but I knew that 65 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 2: it really resonated with me, and the more I thought 66 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 2: about it, the more I was like, I think it 67 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 2: would make a pretty badass title. And I also knew 68 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 2: it would be like a bit of an obnoxious one, 69 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 2: like a bit of a self indulgent long title, and 70 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 2: I was anxious about that. I would, you know, tell people. 71 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 2: Half the people were like, yes, had your reaction, We're 72 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 2: upsessed with it. The other half were like, maybe tone 73 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 2: it down, maybe I do half of it. And I 74 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 2: seriously thought about it, but it just there's no version 75 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 2: of this title that is as complete as the full thing. 76 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:07,839 Speaker 2: So I used it. 77 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: It's incredible And as you said, and as I said, 78 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: about eight years to create this and put this out 79 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: into the world. But I want to bring it back 80 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: even further for a minute. So when you first felt 81 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: the power of songwriting, because I think we need a 82 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: little context before we dive into this album. And I 83 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: believe you were like four about four, and you wrote 84 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: a song for a family member. Tell me that story. 85 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 2: Okay. So I always loved writing songs, always like I 86 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 2: love performing them. I think you know, when I was younger, 87 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 2: I think I enjoyed writing them as much as I 88 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 2: did performing them. But I loved both aspects. And you know, 89 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 2: when you're that age, when you're four or five, you 90 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 2: know nothing about politics. You just know what kind of 91 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 2: like you hear your family talk about. You know, my 92 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 2: family in LA was definitely one kind of sort of 93 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 2: political sphere, and my family in New York was kind 94 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 2: of another one. And and I mostly was with my 95 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,919 Speaker 2: family in LA. And I remember going to be in 96 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 2: my New York family and I wrote a song that 97 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 2: was from my uncle Tony, who I still love near 98 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 2: and dear to my heart. He's wonderful, and it was like, 99 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 2: I love you, uncle Tony, even though you're a Republican, 100 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 2: and it was everyone was like, what are you talking about? 101 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 2: Like you're four, I didn't even know what those words meant, 102 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 2: but it was about how much I loved him and 103 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 2: how even if we had different political beliefs, with me 104 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 2: being four years old, I would always love him, you know. 105 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 2: Weirdly a song that I think would resonate with people today. 106 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 2: But yeah, I remember like that and loving the reaction 107 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 2: I got from her, because ever it was just like 108 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 2: half she's such a little weirdo, and half like this 109 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 2: is like hilarious, and I just I always wrote, I 110 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 2: always wrote. I always sang in front of people the 111 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 2: songs that I'd written. Sometimes they were ten minutes long, 112 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 2: and I feel bad that I made people listen, But 113 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 2: oh I made them listen, and they were always the same. 114 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 2: It wasn't like I was like making it up as 115 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 2: I went. Like I would write a ten minute song 116 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 2: and then perform it for every single person, and it 117 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 2: would found the same each time. So I loved it. 118 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 2: I always wanted to pursue it. And then you know, 119 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 2: I got really the opportunity to do And when I 120 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 2: was a teenager, and. 121 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: You said it then took a little time for you 122 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: to develop confidence in your voice. So what did you 123 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 1: mean by that? And what was that journey like to 124 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: get you to where you are today? 125 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 2: You know when I always say when I started acting, 126 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 2: I was five, Right when you're five years old, the 127 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,119 Speaker 2: same to the story when I like wrote that song, 128 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 2: you have at least for me, and I would venture 129 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 2: to say for most five year olds, like the idea 130 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 2: of not feeling good enough. It might be subconsciously, like 131 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 2: in the back of your brain, but it's certainly not conscious. 132 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 2: It's like not really even in your sphere. You know, 133 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 2: some kids are obviously shy, but I never had that 134 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 2: feeling of not feeling good enough with my acting at all, 135 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 2: because I think I was just like so like young, 136 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 2: and it didn't really even cross my brain. And then 137 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 2: by the time I got into like middle school age, 138 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 2: I very much had been doing it for five or 139 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 2: six years, and I felt so confident in it that 140 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 2: any sort of level of insecurity that would come in 141 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 2: and you know, I got like, I had my acting 142 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 2: insecurity test and I got replaced on two shows, you know, 143 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 2: in middle school time. And I really remember, even at 144 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 2: that time just still not like wavering in my confidence 145 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 2: and my skill with acting. With music, I was always 146 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 2: doing it, but I didn't really fully pursue it right 147 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 2: until I was, you know, a teenager, where insecurities are 148 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 2: very forefront in your brain. Not feeling enough and not 149 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 2: feeling good enough is so in the forefront of your brain. 150 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 2: And I think, you know, I was pursuing music in 151 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 2: any way I could. I had a MySpace, I had 152 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 2: these like recording sessions I would do of songs I 153 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 2: wrote that were not real recording sessions. It wasn't until I, 154 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 2: you know, did the show that I did that I 155 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 2: knew about it. Like the recording sessions I did was 156 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 2: you sang the song once through, maybe twice, and you 157 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 2: were done. And I didn't sound very good in those songs, 158 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 2: and I think I knew that. And then I think 159 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 2: when I started pursuing it a little bit more, the 160 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 2: insecurity about my voice was like really really deep and heavy, 161 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 2: and it was this weird dichotomy of me loving music 162 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 2: so much and me constantly feeling not good enough and 163 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 2: feeling like just not enough in doing the thing that 164 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 2: I burned for and loved so much. And it was 165 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 2: always really hard to kind of balance those two thoughts processes, 166 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 2: and I think it just came for me doing it 167 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,079 Speaker 2: more and more. Do I still feel like I can 168 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 2: always work on my craft more? Yes, Like I still 169 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 2: do I work my voice, you know. I try to 170 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 2: do it daily, especially if I'm like gearing up for 171 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:19,319 Speaker 2: a tour, gearing up for shows. I very much. I 172 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 2: think have such a different work ethic about it now 173 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 2: that than I did when I was like fifteen or sixteen, 174 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 2: because I was so insecure about it, and I almost 175 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 2: was like, oh, I want to work on it, but 176 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 2: I sound so bad and I hate how I sound 177 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 2: and all of these different things. So I think that 178 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 2: just the more I did it and the more I 179 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 2: kind of forced myself to do it and do different things, 180 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 2: I became more confident in it. But I always felt 181 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 2: confident in my songwriting and always felt like that was 182 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 2: the truest form of myself. 183 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: Well, it's clear your confidence is on full display with 184 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 1: this new album, because, first of all, you sound incredible 185 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 1: and the album, the lyrics, you're so open, you're so vulnerable, 186 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: you're so honest, you're so real. It's heartbreaking and beautiful 187 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: all at the same time. I mean, you take us 188 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: on a journey for all twenty three songs of this album, 189 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:15,559 Speaker 1: and you reveal a lot of personal things that we're 190 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: going to get into. So why now, Why was this 191 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: the right time in your life to open up in 192 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: a way you've never opened up before. 193 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 2: I think a few reasons. I think that feeling of 194 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 2: not feeling good enough by the way, I feel like 195 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 2: there should be some sort of game of how many 196 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 2: times we say feelings in this because I feel like 197 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 2: it will go of a lot. But yeah, that that 198 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 2: feeling I think followed me, and stuff follows a little bit, 199 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 2: but followed me through kind of my music career journey 200 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 2: in terms of I signed to my first record deal 201 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 2: with for Sure the not even hopes to be honest, 202 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 2: and maybe that's like a bit of naiveness talking, but 203 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 2: like pretty much like for sureness of Oh, I'm releasing 204 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 2: an album with this label, and did you know I 205 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 2: had a full album. I had the normal length, which 206 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 2: is like eleven songs. And when that deal didn't work out, 207 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 2: I instantly signed this other label deal with Again the 208 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 2: thought that an album is coming, like right, when you're 209 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:33,599 Speaker 2: negotiating doing contracts and everything, it's they're not even just 210 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:35,439 Speaker 2: talking about one album. It's we're in a kind of 211 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 2: a different time in the music industry now. But back 212 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 2: back then, you know you're not even just talking about 213 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,479 Speaker 2: one album in a contract. You're talking about you're negotiating 214 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 2: a few different albums. So that first album seems like 215 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 2: without a doubt in my case. In both situations, there 216 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 2: obviously was a lot of doubt because there was no 217 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 2: albums that came from it. In fact, one of the 218 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 2: label deals I was in, the second one, I didn't 219 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 2: even release any music with them. So by the time 220 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 2: I went independent, I very much knew I wanted to 221 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 2: release more music, and I knew I want to have 222 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 2: a body of work, but I was petrified about doing 223 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 2: an album because again, there's so much pressure around that 224 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 2: debut album about the success of it. I especially think 225 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 2: I think everyone falls, for lack of a better word, 226 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 2: of victim to it, but especially being a young woman 227 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 2: or a woman in pop music, there's so much comparison 228 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 2: that is so heavy that I think I for sure 229 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 2: got into my head in terms of like, oh, well, 230 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 2: I want to make more of a base for myself 231 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 2: before I, you know, put on my debut album, which 232 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 2: I don't regret. I do think was the right decision, 233 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 2: but maybe was not the right reasoning behind that decision, 234 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 2: if that makes sense. I think the reasoning was out 235 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 2: of fear of just being like, oh, I know it's 236 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 2: not going to do well. I'm so concerned about it 237 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 2: not doing well. You know, all of these different things 238 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 2: I kind of get in your head, and so I 239 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 2: pursued releasing APS, but I kind of did my own 240 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 2: version of what that album would be, and you know, 241 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 2: instead of doing one EP, I did a trilogy of EPs. 242 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 2: I did the MEP, the UEP, and the SUP that 243 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 2: all kind of came together, but I loved that. I 244 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 2: was like, but it is my album, it's an EP, Like, 245 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 2: let's let's just differentiate. And so when I was writing 246 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 2: the last ep, the SEP, I couldn't stop writing. I 247 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 2: was just like completely overwhelmed with thoughts and ideas that 248 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 2: were mostly about my last relationship. And so I knew 249 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 2: from that point that I really wanted to release an album. 250 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 2: And again, at that point, it wasn't what it was now, 251 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 2: I just knew it finally kind of came into my 252 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 2: head where I'm like, I'm ready. Do I feel like 253 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 2: I have the like backing behind me in terms of, like, 254 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 2: you know, I'm not at a label, I'm independent, you know, 255 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:58,839 Speaker 2: all of these things that I think always had hoped 256 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 2: I would have, and really an album because there's obviously 257 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 2: such heavy promotion and things that go into it. No, 258 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 2: but I still was like, it's the right time and 259 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:11,439 Speaker 2: I do feel so so sure about that. And then 260 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:16,079 Speaker 2: what followed was a year of a lot of inner turmoil, 261 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 2: a lot of I think confusion in terms of like 262 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 2: am I on the right path of what I'm doing, 263 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 2: a lot of reflecting about my past relationships, a lot 264 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 2: of reflecting on my identity, and it truly just became 265 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 2: you know, I knew I was working on this album. 266 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 2: I was knew that this year was going to be 267 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 2: filled with me finishing and work on this album. But 268 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 2: I definitely had no idea that I was going to 269 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 2: be in such a mental state that I wasn't fully 270 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 2: prepared for anticipating of making this album. I think when 271 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 2: I was dreamed about making this album, and even back 272 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 2: in twenty sixteen, twenty fifteen, and I was making that 273 00:14:55,880 --> 00:15:00,040 Speaker 2: debut album that ever came out. Yeah, I definitely I 274 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 2: felt like there was going to be a headspace of 275 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 2: joy and like, Oh, everything's falling into place and this 276 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 2: is great. You know, I'm kind of romanticizing it, and 277 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 2: it certainly wasn't that. If anything, I felt like things 278 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 2: were falling apart, and I was like, oh, how do 279 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 2: I even continue doing this when I feel like my 280 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 2: heart isn't in it and I'm feeling a million things. 281 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 2: And I just kept with it. And the more I 282 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 2: kept with it, the more I was like, I'm really 283 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 2: proud of this music, and I was getting deeper and 284 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 2: deeper lyrically of what I wanted to say underneath the 285 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 2: service of things that I had been feeling for a 286 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 2: really long time, and you know, when I was working 287 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 2: on the interludes, and this is recent, this was like 288 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 2: late June, last week of June, early July. I was like, 289 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 2: for the first time, felt so at peace with the 290 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 2: fact that this was my debut album. This was completely 291 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 2: write music that I wanted to put out, and this 292 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 2: was me sharing with the world a state of myself 293 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 2: that was my most true, genuine form of feeling. That's 294 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 2: so scary to share, but felt so right to share. 295 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: Well, it's so relatable too, and we're going to start 296 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: diving into some of it. And I think for everybody 297 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: listening what you're about to hear, you're gonna instantly say, oh, 298 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 1: I've been there before, or I know exactly what Laura 299 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: is talking about. And that's what I think is the 300 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: magic of the songs you wrote is we can all 301 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: relate in some way, shape or form. So act one 302 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: enough the lyrics to that man, and I wrote this 303 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: down because I wanted to get them perfect. So you right, 304 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 1: when will I feel like enough? When will I feel 305 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 1: not too much? I'm tired and tired of losing sleep, 306 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: I'm fighting anxiety. Oh yeah, ooh, that is powerful. Talk 307 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 1: to me and what was going through your mind at 308 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 1: that point of your life. 309 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 2: I think in this industry and beyond this industry, in 310 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 2: this life as general and big statement as this is, 311 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 2: but I think especially in the time that we're living 312 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:30,120 Speaker 2: in right now, and maybe it's just the human experience. God, 313 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 2: it feels impossible to feel content and to feel like 314 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:38,199 Speaker 2: enough and to feel like you have enough. You know. 315 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 2: I feel like you can get very deep in this 316 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 2: conversation in terms of even like talking about capitalism and 317 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 2: government and going even even further with that, but just 318 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 2: focusing in on my life and focusing in on you know, 319 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 2: what I feel like on such a regular basis. There's 320 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 2: a level of exhaustion that came to me in God, 321 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm ever going to feel like enough, 322 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 2: and I don't know if I'm ever going to have 323 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 2: enough success or things in my life that will feel 324 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 2: like enough. There's something that can be so exciting about 325 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 2: chasing your ambition and chasing success and being like, let's 326 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 2: get bigger, let's keep building on things, let's keep building 327 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:23,239 Speaker 2: on momentum. Like I felt very much last year in 328 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 2: twenty twenty two, this type of momentum in my music 329 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 2: that I had been chasing ever since I went independent. 330 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 2: I mean, you can venture to say even ever since 331 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 2: I started releasing music that I finally felt like was happening. 332 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 2: Like I had these two songs that I had in 333 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 2: another project of mine. You know, it felt like for 334 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 2: the first time, pieces were falling into place in terms of, Okay, 335 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 2: I have my acting, I have my music. I can 336 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:53,679 Speaker 2: actually use these two things together in the way I 337 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 2: want to to really be able to share both parts 338 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 2: of myself that I love. You know, I got to 339 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 2: collaborate with artists that I really look up to and 340 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 2: was like so excited, and I you know, everything really 341 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 2: did feel like it was in place. I was so 342 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 2: proud of the music I created for the SEP. I 343 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 2: was so you know, I was end up filming this 344 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 2: other project, you know. I I went on my first 345 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 2: headline tour, which was one of the best experiences of 346 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 2: my life. And even with that, right, there was plenty 347 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 2: of moments that I faced my lack of success. In 348 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 2: some ways, I was like put straight in front of 349 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 2: my face if like shows didn't sell out that well, 350 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 2: or you know, if I made a mistake on stage 351 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 2: or any of these things, and even with all that, 352 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,239 Speaker 2: I loved it, and I wasn't sure I was going 353 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 2: to love it. I performed one off shows plenty of times. 354 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 2: I did a show at the Roxy back in twenty nineteen, 355 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 2: but I remember after doing that, I remember feeling like, 356 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 2: you know, it was this one off show, and I 357 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 2: didn't feel bad, but I didn't feel good, and so 358 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 2: I was like, kindoa you what to expect him? For 359 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 2: the first time, I felt so good. I was like this, 360 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 2: this feels right, everything feels right. Was I exhausted, Yes, 361 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 2: Was I kind of like doing a million things at 362 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 2: a time for what I've been doing like my whole 363 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 2: career and also kind of my whole life. Yes, But 364 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 2: it finally felt like all that work and all of 365 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 2: that was taking me towards something that felt more tangible. 366 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 2: And then this like last year, it felt like it 367 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 2: was taken away. And I don't know why, and I 368 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 2: don't know how, and not necessarily in even like a 369 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 2: tangible way, but it just it was like it hit 370 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 2: me of I don't know if it's ever going to 371 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 2: feel enough, or I don't know if anything I'm going 372 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:52,479 Speaker 2: to do is ever going to match this level of 373 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 2: enough that I've built up in my head where I'll 374 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 2: finally feel like, Okay, I've reached it, I'm enough and 375 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 2: this is good. And I think that at me really 376 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 2: really hard, and I wrote about it. Yeah. 377 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 1: No, The lyrics are so powerful, and I think it's 378 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:10,120 Speaker 1: something we all struggle with and go through. And we're 379 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: always judging ourselves based on what we're doing today and now, 380 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 1: and somehow we forget about all the things we've accomplished 381 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: right because we're looking forward instead of relishing in the present. 382 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: So I think so many people listening are going to say, 383 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 1: oh my god, I identify with that, and that's something 384 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,719 Speaker 1: that many of us feel, and we're connected by feeling 385 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 1: that together. You also talk about experiencing loneliness and you 386 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,640 Speaker 1: open up about depression, and I have to say, when 387 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: I was listening, I was very surprised because on the outside, 388 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 1: and this is so I guess stereotypical, because I get 389 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 1: this too all the time. It's like you're happy and 390 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 1: you're bubbly and you're smiley, and you just wouldn't think 391 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: that you go through those feelings as well. But you 392 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 1: write about it in the Internet scene one you talk 393 00:21:56,160 --> 00:22:00,360 Speaker 1: about that what's that something difficult for you to open 394 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: up about. 395 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 2: I think what's difficult about it is exactly what you 396 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:11,640 Speaker 2: just said. It's not that, I think, to be honest, 397 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 2: like mental health. I feel very lucky to grow up 398 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 2: in the household that I grew up in because it 399 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 2: was always a conversation that was a very transparent conversation 400 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 2: in a lot of ways. So, I, you know, as 401 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 2: much as there's like stigma around so many mental health journeys, 402 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 2: and it still is such a thing that we have 403 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 2: an issue grasping and talking about in kind of like 404 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 2: a bigger picture way, I don't think I ever was 405 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 2: nervous about sharing feelings on this album. I think what 406 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 2: I felt more concerned about is in terms of like 407 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:55,199 Speaker 2: the perception that I am very aware of. What I 408 00:22:55,280 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 2: put out is this bubbly happy personality, and I think 409 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 2: I do really, really work hard and strive every single 410 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 2: day to find what I'm grateful about and to find 411 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 2: the positive and I do actively work on that and 412 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 2: try to you know, look at those things and focus 413 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 2: on those things. But I also have my own, you know, 414 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 2: journey and struggles that I have, and I think that 415 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 2: I get so confused sometimes about how to live in 416 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 2: this world where this again is something we all go 417 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 2: through and have to experience because of social media. But 418 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 2: I definitely feel something that I've experienced and might have 419 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 2: experienced even before social media in terms of like having 420 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 2: the platform that I have, platform that I have, you know, 421 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 2: how do I join and reconcile the face that I 422 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 2: put out publicly, which if you put a camera on me, 423 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 2: I'm gonna smile like maybe it's because I've been doing 424 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 2: it for so long. It's just like I'm gonna be 425 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:11,400 Speaker 2: bubbly when I'm meeting new people. I'm gonna be bubbly, 426 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 2: like that is just who I am. How do I 427 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 2: reconcile that with some really really real dark emotions and 428 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 2: feelings that I also go through and that I'm sharing 429 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 2: on this album. You know, I have this feeling of 430 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 2: like our people, like, do I have to now act 431 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 2: a certain way when I'm promoting this album in talking 432 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 2: about these songs because the happy bubbly doesn't fit what 433 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 2: I'm writing about. And I think that part was kind 434 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 2: of interesting for me to reflect on. And I think 435 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 2: I just my resolution was a little bit like I 436 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,919 Speaker 2: think I'm just gonna be me and be as genuine 437 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,719 Speaker 2: as I possibly can, and part of me is going 438 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 2: to be the bubbliness that comes out. And it's also 439 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:04,919 Speaker 2: the like really really other darker feelings that I feel 440 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 2: and in my life they live together, right There is 441 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,880 Speaker 2: two things can be true at the same time. I can, 442 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,400 Speaker 2: you know, live every day as much as I possibly 443 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:18,400 Speaker 2: can looking for the good and looking for the positive 444 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 2: and trying to build people up around me and try 445 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 2: to build myself up and still have thoughts and feelings 446 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,360 Speaker 2: that don't necessarily line up with that as well. Well. 447 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 1: You're multi layered, right, Like we all feel different things 448 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: throughout different portions of our lives, and I think it's 449 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 1: really important to talk about that in the way that 450 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 1: you do on this album and Italy. It's not something 451 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,439 Speaker 1: I've talked about a lot publicly. I've gotten better at it, 452 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 1: but you know, something as simple as I revealed in 453 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 1: an interview that I went to therapy for the first 454 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: time of my life over the holidays, and that was 455 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,160 Speaker 1: really hard for me to bring up. I'm thirty seven, 456 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,679 Speaker 1: and like in this day and age, the stigma with 457 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 1: it is not gone. That it's gotten better and way loud, 458 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 1: and still it was hard for me to publicly say 459 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 1: that out loud. So, like, I just think the more 460 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,679 Speaker 1: that we talk about it, the more we normalize it, 461 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 1: and the more we also show you don't have to 462 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: be bubbly all the time. You can be other things. 463 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 1: It's yes, that's your default character, and most of the 464 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: time you are, but it's impossible to be that every 465 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 1: single moment of the life of your life. So I 466 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: love that you you open up about that. And in 467 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:21,639 Speaker 1: the follow up to part one of that song and 468 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 1: part two, you talk about the Internet, which is one 469 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: of my favorite topics because we love our internet, but 470 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: we also hate our internet because it's it's just the 471 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 1: wild while West. And you you write about wanting to 472 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,919 Speaker 1: be liked, and you read these negative comments and you 473 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 1: don't want it to bother you, but it does bother you, right. 474 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 2: A hundred And isn't that us all right? Isn't that like, 475 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 2: how do we all have the same feelings of like 476 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 2: just wanting to be accepted and liked and loved and appreciated, 477 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 2: And how do we all all have this obsession with 478 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 2: watching a train wreck? I don't know personally for me, 479 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,879 Speaker 2: and I would say the same thing about you and 480 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 2: a lot of people in my life. I don't think 481 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 2: I have the need to like comment negatively about things 482 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 2: or people I see. I still don't fully get that. 483 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 2: I also think, to be honest, I am a way 484 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 2: more vanilla version of myself on social media because I 485 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:35,360 Speaker 2: think sometimes I'm not gonna include the people who are 486 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:40,360 Speaker 2: you know, the people who will say you know, horrible 487 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:44,719 Speaker 2: things about me, like trigger warning but like you know, 488 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,120 Speaker 2: you should end your life or things like that. Those 489 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 2: people I'm not even including because that's like a different 490 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 2: type of class. A person who is definitely has like 491 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 2: a darkness in life. There's this middle ground of humor 492 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 2: on the Internet that is a really interesting place. And 493 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,400 Speaker 2: so when I say I'm kind of a vanilla form 494 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 2: of myself, there are plenty of times where I'm like, oh, 495 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 2: I think something is funny or I want to say something, 496 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 2: and I have a million things that go through my 497 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 2: head of like, Okay, well, what if this person in 498 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:19,159 Speaker 2: this scenario, in going through this type of day reads 499 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 2: this comment and feels like personally attacked by it or 500 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 2: feels this a certain way, And I more often than 501 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 2: not choose to not post something because in my head, 502 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 2: I'd rather be like a vanilla, one dimensional person on 503 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 2: the internet. If that means I'm not hurting someone, Is 504 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 2: that always the best decision? I don't know, is would 505 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 2: it be better to just be like, screw it, I'm 506 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 2: just going to be my most authentic self and say 507 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 2: what I want to say and do those things. Maybe, 508 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 2: but that's kind of the journey I've chosen. The humor 509 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 2: aspect I find fasting because I think a lot of 510 00:28:56,320 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 2: the negativity that comes from the Internet are people trying 511 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 2: to be funny at other people's expense. Right, It's like it's, 512 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 2: you know, building off of what other people are saying, 513 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 2: and in a weird way, still comes from that place 514 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 2: of like wanting to be liked, like I want wanting 515 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 2: people to think they're funny, and wanting people to like 516 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 2: wanting to join in a conversation that other people have 517 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 2: already talked about. You know, I have that part I 518 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 2: find fascinating and like still blows me away to this 519 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 2: day that people will just be really mean in the 520 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 2: name of humor and like not even really fully comprehend 521 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 2: the amount of meanness or pain that they're causing. I've 522 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 2: had friends go through like really horrible like online bullying 523 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 2: that I actually like had fans come up to me 524 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 2: about being like, oh my god, have you seen this 525 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 2: like meme about this person that they know I know, 526 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 2: and I say it in a way that they like, 527 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 2: I'm like, you guys are delusional, Like you really don't 528 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 2: know how hurtful this online shows thing is or how 529 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 2: like there is this such a level of separation, which 530 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 2: I think when you're in person with someone and you 531 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 2: tease someone, you can instantly see a reaction. If you 532 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 2: see that there is like a hurt reaction, you can 533 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 2: kind of apologize right away and they can see your reaction. 534 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 2: They can see like they're not trying to like hurt you, 535 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 2: they're just like teasing you, and you don't have on 536 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 2: the internet, So maybe that's the issue. But the like 537 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 2: that song I mention about like my face being punchable 538 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 2: because I've seen that comment a few different times. I've 539 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 2: seen the comment which the people pleaser and re dies 540 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 2: about exaggeration, but like of being like I don't know 541 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 2: what it is about her, but I just want to 542 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 2: punch her face, Like I don't know what it is 543 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 2: about her, but I just don't like her, Like she 544 00:30:56,520 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 2: gives me this she gives me that, And I hate that. 545 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 1: We should never be commenting on people's looks period, Like, 546 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 1: it's so frustrating when I hear and see stuff like 547 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 1: that as a guy, Like I got some stupid shit like, oh, 548 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 1: you look too beefy. Oh you're now you're skinny? Oh 549 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 1: did he get you know? His lips done? 550 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 2: No? 551 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 1: I haven't, Like, can we just stop talking about people 552 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 1: enough already? Oh your hair's too dark, it's too light, 553 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 1: it's too long, it's too short. And I'm a guy. 554 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 1: Women get it a thousand times worse, and I know 555 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 1: how frustrated I get at it. I can't imagine what 556 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 1: women go through. It is bullshit. 557 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 2: It is, and it's like but to your point, it's 558 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 2: like it's everyone like is affected by it in terms 559 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 2: of like there is such a need of a lot 560 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 2: of people to comment on how people look or comment 561 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 2: about someone that they do not know and like say something. 562 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 2: And I think it happens to people who personally know 563 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 2: each other. It happens to people who don't know each 564 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 2: other that well, or internet friends or this or internet enemies. 565 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 2: I don't know, but my god, does it happen to 566 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 2: people who have any sort of platform, people commenting underkeeep 567 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 2: their content on social media, some sort of criticism. Listen, 568 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 2: It's one thing I still don't appreciate. But it's one 569 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 2: thing if someone is like not tagging me and then 570 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 2: they're just like, for whatever reason, they're like, I hate 571 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 2: Laura Morano. She just annoys me. I mean, can still 572 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 2: suck because that still sometimes shows up on my feed. 573 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 2: There was a period of my life where I like 574 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 2: actively would like, look at my name on Twitter like 575 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 2: war Morano. I do not do that anymore because that's 576 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 2: for people to be like just it's asking for you 577 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 2: to like look for people to be meaning about you. 578 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 2: But the people who tag you or write under your 579 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 2: comments or like that bewilders me because I'm like why, 580 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 2: like why why do they do it? 581 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 1: I know, I know, and I think you putting this 582 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 1: all into a song is only going to further raise 583 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 1: a flag up in the air and hopefully remind people 584 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 1: if they're listening and maybe they're guilty of doing this, 585 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 1: even if they think in a joking way that it's 586 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 1: just not necessary. It's not necessary. And I love that 587 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 1: you are brave enough to talk about it, because no 588 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 1: one likes to talk about the bad stuff being said 589 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 1: about them. Nobody likes to acknowledge it and address it. 590 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 1: But the way you do it in the song is 591 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 1: beautiful and powerful, and I think it's really really cool 592 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 1: that you did that. Another song that blew me away 593 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 1: because it was so honest and I think we all 594 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 1: can relate to this in some ways. Have I reached 595 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 1: my peak? 596 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's a brutal one. Yeah yeah, yeah. That 597 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 2: one was a recent one that was kind of what 598 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 2: I was, you know, talking about a few minutes ago. 599 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 2: Was when I just felt like, I'm like everything. I 600 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:06,959 Speaker 2: think we First of all, I think we label ourselves 601 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 2: all the time, and I think we put ourselves in 602 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 2: these boxes. We do it to other people, we do 603 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 2: it to ourselves, and I think in terms, especially in 604 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:20,879 Speaker 2: the entertainment industry, there is such a fear I would 605 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,280 Speaker 2: venture for most people who are in it that feel 606 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:29,880 Speaker 2: like is this was the best behind me? Or is 607 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,799 Speaker 2: this the best moment now and I can't live up 608 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 2: to this? You know, there's something that's so scary about 609 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 2: that thought, because I think as a human being, you 610 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 2: have a need to want to continuously grow and continuously 611 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 2: like the thought of peaking in your twenties or in 612 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,240 Speaker 2: high school or stuff like that, or in your thirties, 613 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,840 Speaker 2: Like life can be so long, and that feels like 614 00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:03,319 Speaker 2: such a scary thing in terms of like, Oh, if 615 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:07,359 Speaker 2: I'm not pursuing something that is having me grow and 616 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 2: I'm getting the better version of myself or the new 617 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,800 Speaker 2: best version of myself, and my best version is already 618 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 2: behind me, what does that mean for the rest of 619 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 2: my life? Yeah, And so that came from that mentality 620 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,240 Speaker 2: and just was like put it all on the table. 621 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, well you did. And I think that it's it's 622 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,759 Speaker 1: again a reminder for all of us to not be 623 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 1: so hard on ourselves and to not give ourselves expiration dates. 624 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:39,239 Speaker 1: I was talking to Billy Porter, and he is so 625 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 1: inspiring to me because some of his wildest success started 626 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,280 Speaker 1: coming to him when he hit fifty and he's fifty 627 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,400 Speaker 1: three now and living this amazing new chapter. And I 628 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,799 Speaker 1: just love the idea of songs like yours reminding us 629 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 1: that we all think it, but in actuality we're just 630 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 1: being our own worst critics. 631 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 2: One hundred percent. And I think, to be honest, the 632 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 2: pandemic was something that obviously has affected so many people 633 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,720 Speaker 2: from a variety of ways. I mean, so much loss 634 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:10,800 Speaker 2: that came with it, and then then the mental health aspect. 635 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 2: I know so many people that feel like three years 636 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 2: of our lives, no matter what age bracket you're in, 637 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,359 Speaker 2: are these three years that you feel like there's all 638 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 2: this missed opportunity that came with it, and that feels 639 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:28,560 Speaker 2: like soul crushing sometimes, especially when you put parameters that 640 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 2: you shouldn't put and I am actively trying not to, 641 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 2: but you put these parameters in your head of like, 642 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 2: I want to be at this place at this age. 643 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 2: I wanted to be this was my time to do 644 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 2: a B or C. And I think, you know, that 645 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 2: was something that I think was like, so, you know, 646 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 2: I was supposed to go on the first tour in 647 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 2: twenty twenty, and obviously it happened two years later. But 648 00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 2: you know, there's all this time that feels like so 649 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:05,279 Speaker 2: precious that we weren't able to utilize in the way 650 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 2: that we thought we were and that has obviously affected 651 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,440 Speaker 2: what today is and that can be hard to reconcile 652 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 2: with a little bit. 653 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred percent. It's it's hard when you feel 654 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,920 Speaker 1: like you've lost time. But I think that the message 655 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,400 Speaker 1: here is you might think it, but there's plenty of 656 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,359 Speaker 1: time still and just keep on going, you know. 657 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 2: And I think life you have to let life happen. 658 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,360 Speaker 2: As like kind of weirdly cheesy as the statement is, 659 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 2: but it's so true. But you know what I mean, like, 660 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:41,719 Speaker 2: go forth and be your best version in whatever that 661 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,799 Speaker 2: means to you, and don't be afraid for life to 662 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 2: take you in a different journey than you expect it. 663 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 2: I think as long as you're pursuing what you love, 664 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 2: you are not hurting yourself for others. You are being 665 00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:59,279 Speaker 2: your best version, and you are aiming for growth in 666 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,920 Speaker 2: some sort of You might not be what you thought. 667 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:04,759 Speaker 2: You might not be doing what you thought you were 668 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:08,400 Speaker 2: going to do when you were younger, and that's okay, 669 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,120 Speaker 2: and coming to peace with that you can actually live 670 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 2: them way fuller life. I think coming to peace with that. 671 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:17,399 Speaker 1: Mentality, I think that's one of the many things people 672 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,560 Speaker 1: will walk away with after they listen to all twenty 673 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:24,439 Speaker 1: three songs of this album is exactly what you just said, 674 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,880 Speaker 1: And I think that's what's so magical about it is. Yes, 675 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 1: there's a lot of tough, tough emotions on the set 676 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:34,960 Speaker 1: you reveal, and we are walked through and maybe surprised 677 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,319 Speaker 1: by when we think of Laura Morano. Right, But at 678 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,200 Speaker 1: the end of the day, what you just said about 679 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,840 Speaker 1: being reminded to experience it, live life, go forward with 680 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:46,400 Speaker 1: your best foot forward, and live your true authentic self 681 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 1: is pretty powerful. And I think you're going to inspire 682 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:52,760 Speaker 1: a lot of people with this album. 683 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 2: Ah well, honestly, I just I truly like it meant 684 00:38:58,040 --> 00:38:59,799 Speaker 2: the world to me that you listen to it, because 685 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,320 Speaker 2: I know it's a lot of songs, and I'm like, fully, 686 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:05,760 Speaker 2: you know, I've sent it to a couple of people 687 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,960 Speaker 2: and my mom has listened all the way through, which 688 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 2: I really appreciate it. Shout out Ala Morono. But like 689 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,880 Speaker 2: there's been a couple of people who were like, oh yeah, 690 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,480 Speaker 2: like my favorite song is like and they said like 691 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,759 Speaker 2: the first two songs, which totally could have been. But 692 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't know if they've really listened to 693 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:25,920 Speaker 2: the whole thing. So you listening the whole thing like 694 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 2: meant the world to me, And I really appreciate everything 695 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,200 Speaker 2: you said. I am so proud of this album. I 696 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,640 Speaker 2: don't know if I've ever been prouder of, certainly any 697 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,399 Speaker 2: sort of music that I put out, but maybe even 698 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,520 Speaker 2: in my life in terms of what I was able 699 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:48,560 Speaker 2: to create. And I'm really beyond like excited, but also 700 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:53,279 Speaker 2: just feeling more self assured than I have in a 701 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,880 Speaker 2: really long time. And that self assuredness, I think is 702 00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,440 Speaker 2: coming from a place of peace of like I truly 703 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:04,480 Speaker 2: just want it to be out. I'm not as concerned, 704 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,400 Speaker 2: which I thought I would be when I was, I, 705 00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:12,040 Speaker 2: you know, imagining releasing my first album. I thought I 706 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:15,080 Speaker 2: would be so concerned about the success of it. And 707 00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,680 Speaker 2: I think I'm at this place that I really appreciate 708 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,880 Speaker 2: that I'm at, but I'm kind of like there's a 709 00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,879 Speaker 2: bit of a pure place of having this come out 710 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:25,799 Speaker 2: and just be like I just want it out and 711 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:27,880 Speaker 2: shared with people and see who connects with it and 712 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:28,399 Speaker 2: go from there. 713 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,560 Speaker 1: I mean, that's a peaceful place to be living in. 714 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,520 Speaker 1: And in fact, I wrote down these lyrics as well, 715 00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:36,439 Speaker 1: and it pretty much describes exactly what you just said, 716 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:40,200 Speaker 1: which means what you wrote is truly what you authentically feel, 717 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,879 Speaker 1: and that is it's okay to take a moment. I'll 718 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:44,879 Speaker 1: be fine. I swear I know it. As you sit 719 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,760 Speaker 1: across from me today in this moment, do you truly 720 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:54,759 Speaker 1: believe that, and I think that acknowledgment of yeah, I'm 721 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,319 Speaker 1: gonna be all right is pretty powerful. So rock on 722 00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,359 Speaker 1: with that, Laura, I've taken so much of your time. 723 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:03,239 Speaker 1: One fine question for you, based off the title of 724 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 1: this show. I've never said this before. You are an 725 00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,200 Speaker 1: open book. You've wrote and poured your heart out on 726 00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:12,279 Speaker 1: this album. But is there one thing that you can 727 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,560 Speaker 1: share today that you have never said before? 728 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 2: I know I've been thinking about this a lot. 729 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:23,839 Speaker 3: I I'm trying to go and which figure out which 730 00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:25,600 Speaker 3: direction I should go in, if I should go a 731 00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 3: little deeper, a little uh sillier. 732 00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:36,719 Speaker 2: And I think that my my heart is feeling two 733 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:44,680 Speaker 2: different ways right now. I as deep as we have gone, 734 00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:47,040 Speaker 2: there's a part of me that is kind of wanting 735 00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:51,480 Speaker 2: to be a little bit sillier and in a weird 736 00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:54,640 Speaker 2: way still kind of connects to this album, which is 737 00:41:55,120 --> 00:42:02,000 Speaker 2: I think you know, in my head, I've always been 738 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:08,120 Speaker 2: such a dramatic, like romanticize everything wild child in a 739 00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:11,799 Speaker 2: lot of ways. You know, I have shared what I'm 740 00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:13,480 Speaker 2: about to share before, and then I'll go another thing 741 00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:17,040 Speaker 2: I haven't shared, you know, I've like when I was 742 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:20,680 Speaker 2: a young girl, I really intense what about design? But 743 00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:26,440 Speaker 2: like I had an imaginary friend named Christina who she died, 744 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,560 Speaker 2: like so she and her family hiked and were eaten 745 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:33,560 Speaker 2: by or bitten by king cobras. Again, I'll just stress 746 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:38,759 Speaker 2: that she was imaginary. But I would tell everyone this 747 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:40,560 Speaker 2: and my mom was like, Laura, you can't. I'd be 748 00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:42,160 Speaker 2: like yeah, They're like, are you okay, And I'm like no, 749 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,799 Speaker 2: I'm just really sad because my best friend Christina died 750 00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,319 Speaker 2: and I'm always like, you can't say that. I'm like, 751 00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,080 Speaker 2: it's true. She did. She was like attacked by king 752 00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:54,600 Speaker 2: Cobra's when she was hiking. Like I've I've always been 753 00:42:54,719 --> 00:43:00,440 Speaker 2: just like a child that has the craziest imagination and 754 00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:05,000 Speaker 2: something that I've never like talked about publicly. That's more 755 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,640 Speaker 2: of a silly fashion. But I was like obsessed with 756 00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:14,239 Speaker 2: love and I basically would tell everybody that I had, 757 00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,839 Speaker 2: like at seven or eight years old, that I had 758 00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:21,040 Speaker 2: seven ex boyfriends. Yeah, and I was like would talk 759 00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:25,120 Speaker 2: about each one and they were real people. I just 760 00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:29,360 Speaker 2: wasn't in a relationship with them as old. But I 761 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:35,960 Speaker 2: very much like would like be obsessed with love and 762 00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:40,719 Speaker 2: obsessed with being in a relationship that I very much 763 00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,480 Speaker 2: would talk about these seven ex boyfriends as if they 764 00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:47,399 Speaker 2: were the deepest realist relationships I've ever had. 765 00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:51,239 Speaker 1: That's incredible, Okay, I would never have guessed that. I 766 00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:56,719 Speaker 1: am glad you shared that, and that's amazing, Laura. I 767 00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:00,279 Speaker 1: couldn't adore you more. Thank you for hanging out. I 768 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,400 Speaker 1: again love your album. I'm so excited for everyone to listen. 769 00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,080 Speaker 1: It's out now. How can people listen? How can we support? 770 00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:09,759 Speaker 2: Okay, you can listen on any music platform that you 771 00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:14,919 Speaker 2: listen to. It is all on every single music platform. 772 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:19,200 Speaker 2: You can stream it on Spotify, you can buy the 773 00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:24,759 Speaker 2: album on Apple or Amazon. It is available to you 774 00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:29,560 Speaker 2: and every online digital way possible, and I really really 775 00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:33,080 Speaker 2: hope that people connect with it. The music video for 776 00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,440 Speaker 2: the focus track on the album, Someday, which is one 777 00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:40,760 Speaker 2: of my favorite songs, is also out now on September fifteenth, 778 00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,400 Speaker 2: a very magical day indeed. And so you guys can 779 00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,640 Speaker 2: watch that music video and listen to the album and 780 00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:49,960 Speaker 2: you know, cry a little bit, but then we can 781 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:51,640 Speaker 2: all kind of get together and tell me what you 782 00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:52,239 Speaker 2: think about it. 783 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:54,799 Speaker 1: And may be an actress, but I can't fake how 784 00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:58,080 Speaker 1: I feel out now, Laura thank you for joining the show. Keith. 785 00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,640 Speaker 1: That beautiful spirit right, I adore you. 786 00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,520 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. Tommy, you are amazing. Thank you 787 00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:05,719 Speaker 2: for letting me speak my truth. You're wonderful. 788 00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:11,040 Speaker 1: I've Never Said This Before is hosted by me, Tommy 789 00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:14,520 Speaker 1: di Dario. This podcast is produced and edited by Mike 790 00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:19,399 Speaker 1: Coscarelli and executive producer Andrew Piglsi at iHeartRadio. I've Never 791 00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:22,160 Speaker 1: Said This Before is part of the Elvis Duran podcast 792 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:26,520 Speaker 1: Network on iHeart Podcasts. For more, rate review and subscribe 793 00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,080 Speaker 1: to our show and if you liked this episode, tell 794 00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:32,280 Speaker 1: your friends. Until next time, I'm Tommy de Dario