1 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 1: Welcome to Jagsam. I'm Pennanni Stevens, Brian Sexton, John Oser 2 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: with me our final jags Am of the regular season. 3 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk things out. There's a coaching search coming 4 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: up and a lot going on in the off season. 5 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: So big thing number one and so it begins. Doug 6 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,559 Speaker 1: Peterson released of his duties as head coach, so that 7 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: means being now looking for a new head coach and 8 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 1: leader of this team. Treen Balki says, the search is 9 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: going to start right away. 10 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 2: I think you think the short answer to that is yes. 11 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 2: I mean, we're gonna move quickly to get some people 12 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 2: lined up to talk to How long that process takes. 13 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 2: I think Sean mentioned it's going to take as long 14 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 2: as it takes to identify the right individual. And is 15 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 2: that one interview? Is that two interviews? I think you 16 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 2: know we're going to do our due diligence and be 17 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 2: very thorough in this process. 18 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: Brian, we already know eight people that they're bringing in 19 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 1: for interview or they've requested interviews that I should say, 20 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:10,759 Speaker 1: but talk us through this timeline a little bit because 21 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 1: it is different to seear than we see. 22 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 3: In the past. 23 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 4: Well, I think that this process is going to be 24 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 4: slower than people have imagined because the league is intentionally 25 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 4: trying to push back the hiring date. They're trying to 26 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 4: be more inclusive and have more potential candidates. Obviously, that's 27 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:26,479 Speaker 4: been something they've been working at for quite a lot 28 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 4: of time. Guy, And you can't do an in person 29 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 4: interview with someone who's under contract until after the divisional rounds, 30 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 4: so not at next week, but the week after next week. 31 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 5: Is the first week that you can do in person interviews. 32 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 5: So everything is going to be virtual. 33 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 4: I think the window is Wednesday, Thursday through Sunday this week, 34 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 4: and then it tightens down a little bit, so a 35 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 4: lot of teams are scrambling to get this first round 36 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 4: of virtual interviews in before that deadline hits. John, this 37 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 4: is a process that looks like it might take all 38 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 4: the way up till Super Bowl for most of these twas, 39 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 4: So that's kind of the way the league is setting 40 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 4: it up well. 41 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 6: I think people who followed the last Jaguars coaching search 42 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 6: sort of have a feel for the pace. Doug Peterson interviewed. 43 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 6: I forget the exact timeline, but it was a long time. 44 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 6: A month between first interview and actual hiring. So the 45 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 6: league has tried to do that with the idea of 46 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 6: being to allow the divisional round coaches Championship game coach 47 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 6: is a legitimate a legitimate chance to be in the mix, 48 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:30,679 Speaker 6: and frankly, it's worked. The process has slowed. Five or 49 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 6: six years ago, it felt like the high you could 50 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 6: interview a head coach and there'd be guys announced like 51 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:42,079 Speaker 6: next week. I don't anticipate that, and that's good because 52 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 6: it does allow teams to take their time and try 53 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 6: to find the right guy. And Brian, that's the most 54 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 6: important thing is finding the right guy, not the first guy. 55 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 4: I think so, And there is also the possibility that 56 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 4: names can be added to that list of eight. Someone 57 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 4: along the way comes to mind, someone that you maybe 58 00:02:57,680 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 4: not have heard a lot about, or that isn't in 59 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 4: the pup guy as much. And we'll both say this, John, 60 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 4: it's about finding the right guy and if that takes 61 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 4: thirty days, she'll be it. But I don't think the 62 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 4: Jaguars will behind the curve at all because every team 63 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 4: is following these new guidelines. 64 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:15,359 Speaker 1: They are, which leads into our second big thing, which 65 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,359 Speaker 1: is top spot. There's six openings right now for head 66 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,959 Speaker 1: coaches around the NFL, and obviously we know what the 67 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 1: Jaguars have going on in their division and what's been there. John, 68 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: How appealing is this opening compared to some of the 69 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: other ones. 70 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 6: Well, I think it's appealing in the sense that you 71 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 6: have an owner who supports, You have an owner who 72 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 6: doesn't meddle. 73 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 2: You have. 74 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 6: An owner who will clearly spend whatever it takes. You've 75 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 6: got Florida, you have this building we're sitting in the MEC. 76 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 6: I said yesterday and I'll continue saying it. I think 77 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 6: the job is as appealing as the candidate likes Trevor Lawrence, 78 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 6: and I think most candidates will like that very much. 79 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 6: You have a young quarterback. He's been injured, but you know, 80 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 6: before that injury in twenty three playing at a high level. 81 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 6: If he scratched the surface, there's something there. Brian, I 82 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 6: think if you're a Trevor Lawrence guy, it's the best job. 83 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 6: I don't know how all eight of these guys feel 84 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 6: about that, and I think that'll determine what people think 85 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 6: about the job. 86 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 4: Well, we've talked a lot about you know, what the 87 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 4: Jaguars had to offer the quarterback, the salary cap, the 88 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 4: twenty draft picks in the next two years, sparkling new facilities, 89 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 4: an owner that won't meddle and will spend. But when 90 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 4: you look at the other jobs open compared to this one, 91 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 4: you see that the Jets don't have a quarterback, and 92 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 4: by the way, they don't have a quarterback. Neither do 93 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 4: the Raiders. This is not a good year to need 94 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 4: a quarterback. And so when you look at the quarterback issue, 95 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 4: it's front and center number one. If you believe that 96 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 4: Trevor Lawrence has good football in front of him, all 97 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 4: the other reasons that I mentioned, and then what John 98 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 4: talked about the quarterback make this his appealing a job 99 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:00,359 Speaker 4: as possible. I mean, you can look at all the 100 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 4: other circumstances and situations, whether it's the Bears and playing 101 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 4: in that hyper competitive NFC North Division or the Saints 102 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 4: who have a salary cap disaster sitting in front of them, 103 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 4: this job is as attractive as any. 104 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: All Right, Our final big thing is going to be 105 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: EVP That was mentioned during the Executive vice president that 106 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 1: was mentioned during the media availability with Shadkhan and Trent 107 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: bal Key, and Shad con was asked whether he'd consider 108 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 1: hiring also an executive vice president. 109 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 7: You know, it's got to be the right person, Okay, 110 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 7: and it's got to be And frankly, I mean we 111 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 7: need to add some people. I mean we're lean, but 112 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 7: you know, if you look at again on you know, 113 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:48,239 Speaker 7: the football side, I mean we've added people, We've changed 114 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 7: some people, and if we find the right person. 115 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: Definitely, Ryan, how promising is this is real possibility to 116 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 1: kind of get someone else in there to help make 117 00:05:58,839 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 1: some of these decisions. 118 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 4: Well, I mean, to me, it's very promising because I 119 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 4: want Tony BISSELLI right. I know that that's a name 120 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 4: that's been bantered about. And listen, it worked for the 121 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 4: Ravens with Ozzie Newsom, It's worked for the Broncos with 122 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 4: John Elway. It has worked with John Lynch in that 123 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 4: role in San Francisco where that person who represents but 124 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 4: Lynch doesn't represent the Niners like Tony would represent the Jaguars. 125 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 4: But I think he would be a really good person 126 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,679 Speaker 4: to put into that role. And I think it's something 127 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 4: that he would excel at. And so if the possibility 128 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 4: exists that Tony can come in in a role that 129 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 4: has an impact on improving the football operation. And more 130 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 4: importantly than that, John setting the Jaguar away. I mean, 131 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 4: we hear about how the Steelers do it, and how 132 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 4: the Patriots do it, and how these championship franchises do it. 133 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 4: We don't have that here in Jacksonville right now. I 134 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 4: think Tony Biselli would be a good person to be 135 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 4: able to institute that because he was here during the 136 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 4: Golden era. He has the yellow jacket, the gold jacket 137 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 4: that signifies his level of excellence as a player, and 138 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 4: he's around the National Football League, and he cares. He 139 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 4: cares a lot. In fact, I would suggest that there 140 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 4: isn't anybody that Shod could hire that would care about 141 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 4: the franchise and guard it as much as he would 142 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:13,679 Speaker 4: other than Tony Boselli. 143 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Tony be a home run. 144 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 6: I answer your question Kai, how big of a possibility 145 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 6: is that? I don't think Shod would have mentioned it 146 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 6: Monday if he wasn't thinking about it. If you recall 147 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 6: Shod in the interview process when he hired Tom Coffin 148 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 6: for this. When he goes into this interview process, he 149 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 6: often is trying to figure out. 150 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 3: What will work the best. 151 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 6: He's often listening to candidates and trying to figure out, Okay, 152 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 6: with the people available, how can I make this work. 153 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 6: He's an engineer member, so he likes to figure out 154 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 6: the system that will work. So I think the fact 155 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 6: that he's talking about it Monday saying if he finds 156 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 6: the right person, I think Tony's the right person. I 157 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 6: don't know how Shod feels about that because he doesn't 158 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 6: really talk talk about that sort of thing, but uh, 159 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 6: I do think it's an absolute possibility. Uh, because it 160 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 6: was mentioned on Monday in a prominent situation. 161 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: We'll keep an eye on it throughout the coming weeks 162 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: as well as through this coaching search. So we have 163 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: eight names of people that are they are hoping to 164 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: come in. We're gonna talk about them coming up after 165 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: the break. Tag XAM brought to you by Field to 166 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: Auto Group, Jacksonville's premiere luxury auto group. Head over to 167 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 1: Field Auto dot com. 168 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 8: I don't really know. 169 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 9: I know we're a young team, you know, so I 170 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 9: would definitely love to have some one, you know, kind 171 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 9: of relatable to us, you know, in a sense, you know, 172 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 9: somebody with some passion. I love for somebody with some 173 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,199 Speaker 9: passion and somebody just showing them about what we got 174 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 9: going on here. 175 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:49,319 Speaker 10: Just somebody wants to win. Just somebody wants to be 176 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:51,839 Speaker 10: around a guys, somebody who's who's eat it fired up, 177 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 10: uh with the opportunity to uh just help us uh 178 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 10: go and ultimately win the Super Bowl when I first 179 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 10: to go here and uh that's what we all want 180 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 10: and uh for somebody want somewhere. 181 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 11: I think that's a tough question to answer right now. 182 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 11: I just think obviously we're all processing the end of 183 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 11: the season. We're all reflecting on just us ourselves individually 184 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 11: and as a team, because like I said, we all 185 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 11: had a hand in this. So I think the important 186 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 11: thing right now is to just reflect personally on where 187 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 11: you can do better going forward, all the learning opportunities 188 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 11: that were taken from this year and really focus on that. 189 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: And the Jaguars players clearing out their lockers this week 190 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: sounding off about what they would like to see in 191 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: their new head coach, Christian Kirk always wise pointing out 192 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:40,559 Speaker 1: that there's a lot of other stuff that needs to 193 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 1: change as well as in just a coaching thing. Players 194 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 1: have to get on board as well. But we've now 195 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: got eight names coming out, you guys, that were announced 196 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: by the team that they want to have an interview 197 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: request with them. So I split the list. It's about 198 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: half offensive coordinators, half defensive guys or former head coaches. 199 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: So which way do we Is it stylistic? But the 200 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: person what kind of goes into this process? Brian, when 201 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:03,719 Speaker 1: you're looking at something like. 202 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 4: Well, I think John and I probably both take the 203 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 4: same approach on this is it doesn't matter to me 204 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 4: whether he's an offensive coach or a defensive coach, or 205 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:12,719 Speaker 4: what scheme he runs. What matters to me is that 206 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 4: he's a head coach, that he's that leader that everyone 207 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 4: will follow, that he has. 208 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 5: The very specific vision. 209 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 4: You know, the Lions are the great example because everyone's 210 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 4: looking at them and what they've done is unbelievable. Turning 211 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 4: that thing around. Dan Campbell was the tight ends coach 212 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 4: and assistant head coach in New Orleans. He was not 213 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 4: a hot name. In fact, when the Lions hired him, 214 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 4: people were scratching their head, thinking, really, but look at 215 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 4: what he's done. I mean, for all that Ben Johnson 216 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 4: and Aaron Glenn, who are both on that list have 217 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:40,199 Speaker 4: done on their sides of the ball. 218 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 5: The culture change. 219 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 4: Which we all experienced when we were there last summer 220 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 4: and spent the week practicing with them. The culture change 221 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 4: is due to Dan Campbell, and that is very much 222 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 4: a philosophy, a style, more than what side of the 223 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 4: ball he's on. 224 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know. 225 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 6: I did a Jaguars dot Com Head Coach Tracker, which 226 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,439 Speaker 6: you can find on Jaguars because that's why it's called 227 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 6: the Jaguars dot Com Head Coach Tracker, And in part 228 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 6: of it, I'm listing offensive rankings and defensive rankings. 229 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 3: To me, those matter not a bit. 230 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 6: It's great that a Ben Johnson, for example, is leading 231 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 6: the Lions offense to these great numbers. Can the guy 232 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 6: stand in front of the room. Do players when the 233 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 6: guy stops talking and they go off to themselves, do 234 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 6: they believe in that guy or are they going If 235 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 6: you're going, meh, then you can't win. So I think 236 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:36,319 Speaker 6: we're talking about the same thing. They have to be 237 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 6: able to set the tone, they have to have the 238 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 6: vision for the franchise, and the players have to believe 239 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 6: in the message. And I believe that that guy is 240 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 6: the right guy, and that's. 241 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 3: What most of the players. 242 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 6: I think we're kind of stumbling around trying to say 243 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 6: they want the right guy and the guy they can 244 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 6: believe in, whether they're an offensive guy defensive guy. The 245 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 6: only caveat to all that is in this day and age, 246 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 6: I do believe there is an advantage if you find 247 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:08,959 Speaker 6: the right offensive guy, then if the no matter who 248 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 6: the coordinator is, the system can stay the same and 249 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 6: the quarterback can have continuity in that system. That's not 250 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 6: to say you have to have that, but if you 251 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 6: can find that, I think that is an advantage over 252 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 6: a ten year period. But guess what, if you don't 253 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,079 Speaker 6: find the right guy right then all that doesn't matter. 254 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:29,199 Speaker 4: When you're searching like the Jaguars have been searching. What's 255 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 4: important to note is that if I'm interviewing somebody, I 256 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 4: want to know who are going to bring on your staff? 257 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 5: Right. 258 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 4: I didn't realize this, but Ben Johnson did not go 259 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 4: as the offensive coordinator to Detroit. He went from Miami, 260 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 4: where he was a receiver's coach, to be a receivers 261 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 4: coach in Detroit, and they fired Anthony Lynn, who was 262 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:51,199 Speaker 4: here's one point, as the running backs coach, and they 263 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 4: identified him as a talent, good coach, and then of 264 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 4: course gave him the opportunity and he grew. 265 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 5: So I want to know who are you bringing with you? 266 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 4: Who are the exciting, dynamic, talented coaches that you will 267 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 4: attract to come be part of your staff. 268 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,079 Speaker 1: I think we might recognize one of them, considering in 269 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 1: quarterbacks coach in Detroit. I'm sure he wouldn't mind coming 270 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: back to Jacksonville. 271 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 5: You're talking about Mark Renold. 272 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 3: Oh maybe that guy? 273 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, And Mark's at that stage. He's been a quarterbacks 274 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 6: coach for a couple of years. You know, he's at 275 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:23,599 Speaker 6: that point where next job as a coordinator. 276 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 3: I could see Mark as a head coach some day. 277 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 5: So he's been a head coach before at a tech. 278 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 4: It's it's just it's it's interesting this process and how 279 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 4: long and detailed it is, and everyone's looking for answers immediately. 280 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 4: But they're gonna go through that list with a fine 281 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 4: tooth calm. I know two of those guys personally because. 282 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 5: They were here. 283 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 4: Robert Sala, who I thought was was going to be 284 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 4: a star with the Jets. I mean, he's such a leader. 285 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 4: It goes to show you the circumstances have something to 286 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:57,559 Speaker 4: do with it, because he never had the quarterback that 287 00:13:57,640 --> 00:13:59,559 Speaker 4: gave him that opportunity, and when he thought he did 288 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 4: with Aaron Rogers was hurt in the first series of 289 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 4: his tenure. 290 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 3: There. 291 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 5: Good football coach. 292 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 4: I don't know whether he's seriously in the mix on 293 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 4: this one, but a good coach. And then Todd Munkin, 294 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 4: who you know, left here and went to college football 295 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 4: Oklahoma State, Southern miss and then Georgia and then has 296 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 4: reinvented himself with. 297 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 5: You know, maybe the MVP in Baltimore. 298 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 4: And again a guy who's been in front of the 299 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 4: room before and is a really solid human being, a 300 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 4: kind of guy that people will trust. 301 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 5: So I liked seeing both of those names. 302 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 1: On there named a former head coach, named coordinator, a 303 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: first time offensive coordinator and Ben Johnson, that's a hot 304 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: name out there. Is there a preference of having experience 305 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: already as a head coach? Obviously we've seen both here. 306 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 1: Obviously Erin Meyer comes in to get Doug who's already 307 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: been there, done that, been around for a long time. 308 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: Does that matter or is it mostly what you can 309 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 1: bring and what your plan is? 310 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, if you know that these are all great questions. 311 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 6: If you're the right guy, then at some point you 312 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 6: have to you know, just because you haven't done it 313 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 6: doesn't mean you can't go do it. 314 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 5: You can't never done it. 315 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 6: So I do think there is a appeal to having 316 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 6: a guy who's the adult in the room, which Todd 317 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 6: Mounkin unfortunately Brian. I think he's the only one even 318 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 6: close to our age. So and I think there's an 319 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 6: appeal to that because you've seen it before and there 320 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 6: are challenges a head coach. Any head coach will tell 321 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 6: you the first time they figure it out, it's like, oh, 322 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 6: this is not the jobs I've had before. This is 323 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 6: every day there's somebody in my office with a problem. 324 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 6: But my guess is it will be a younger guy 325 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 6: because that feels like the trend and the quarterback connection. 326 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 6: I just have to believe that there will be a 327 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 6: quarterback connection and it feels like a coordinator type deal 328 00:15:58,360 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 6: is going to happen. 329 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 4: Both of of the guys in Detroit interest me because 330 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 4: they will have been shaped by the circumstances. They will 331 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 4: have seen a rough start. I think Dan Camill went 332 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 4: o to eight to get started. Yeah, and they will 333 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 4: have seen a franchise that was used to they had 334 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 4: a losing culture be transformed into a juggernaut. I mean, 335 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 4: what they've got going there is incredible. So either of 336 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 4: those two guys and Aaron Glenn doesn't get the same 337 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 4: attention because that offense is just exploding. But you hear 338 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 4: the guys who work around Aaron Glenn and you think, 339 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 4: and Aaron's a guy that was here in two thousand 340 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 4: and seven. He was a part of that really good 341 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 4: defense that helped power the Jaguars to the divisional round 342 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 4: of the playoffs that year. And Jeff Loginman knows him 343 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 4: very well, A really an excellent football player, and I 344 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 4: told him excellent tactician and coach and a guy who 345 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 4: sure seems to have the personality to get up in 346 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 4: front of the room. 347 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 5: So I mean he's a feeling, Yeah, he's appealing. 348 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 6: He's a strong personality, Yeah, strong personality and has been 349 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:02,359 Speaker 6: around a bit, so that would not be. 350 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 3: There would be a lot to like if that's the direction. 351 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:06,120 Speaker 5: Yeah. 352 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 4: I mean, I think both coordinators in Detroit deserve the 353 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 4: kind of attention and the star next to their name 354 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 4: because of what they have been shaped by and the 355 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 4: way that they have grown both sides of the ball. 356 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: I think Glenn impressive as of late as well. What 357 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: he's been able to do with the injuries on defense, 358 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 1: and then for them to have that game against the 359 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 1: Vikings in the season. I mean, just that alone is 360 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: impressive to be able to have that many players behind 361 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 1: and come up and still play that well. 362 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 4: Well, when you lose a player like Aiden Hutchinson and 363 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:35,439 Speaker 4: you don't make that, they trade for Zadaria Smith and 364 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 4: you bring him in, and I mean right away he 365 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:39,679 Speaker 4: has an impact and that doesn't always happen, so I 366 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 4: mean he's obviously a guy who strategically gets it. 367 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 1: Just one more comment. We're looking at some of these 368 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:49,199 Speaker 1: offensive coordinators that we want to come in, and just 369 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 1: because it's been a controversy in the past about play calling, 370 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: if you were making the decision and you were hiring 371 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: one of these offensive guys, would you want them to 372 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 1: be the primary play caller. 373 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 3: Maybe, But again the whole play calling thing. 374 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 6: That has to be the quarter the head coach's choice, 375 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:17,640 Speaker 6: and it depends on how he feels about that system. 376 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 6: So sure, but again I don't get into the whole 377 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 6: play calling thing. This last year, I still. 378 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:25,959 Speaker 3: Think it was overblown. 379 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:30,360 Speaker 6: That guy has to be the direction of the offense, 380 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:33,439 Speaker 6: and whatever coordinator you're gonna have. He's going to be 381 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 6: the I mean, whatever coach, he's going to be the 382 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 6: spirit of the offense. How he handles the mechanism, I 383 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 6: think you gotta leave up to him. 384 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 5: They all have such a influence. 385 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 4: I mean, I always thought that the Press Taylor Doug 386 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,919 Speaker 4: Peterson stuff was overblown because Press wasn't gonna do what 387 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:49,639 Speaker 4: Doug didn't want him to do with his offense, and 388 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 4: Doug didn't spend any time on defense. 389 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 5: Doug was in the offensive. 390 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:53,880 Speaker 3: They were in lockstep. 391 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 5: They were in lockstown. 392 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 6: The new guy will be in lockstep if he's an 393 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 6: offensive coach. If it's been uh Van Johnson and Mark's 394 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 6: the coordinator, for example, I don't know that'll be. Then 395 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 6: Ben will probably call the plays with Mark or vice versa. 396 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 6: But they'll be in each other's headset. They'll be on 397 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 6: each other's desks all week, right, So it'll be sort 398 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 6: of the same dynamic, except whatever it is, well probably. 399 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 3: Made clearer than it was in twenty twenty four. 400 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 4: And it's worth pointing out in the Great Era of 401 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 4: the Jaguars, where Tom Coughlin was the head coach and 402 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 4: he had Mark Brunell and Jimmy Smith and Fred Taylor, 403 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 4: and I mean they were loaded. 404 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:32,239 Speaker 5: Tom didn't called places right. 405 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 4: He had a heavy hand in what went on, but 406 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:38,479 Speaker 4: he had, you know, Kevin Gilbride or Chris Palmer. I mean, 407 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:41,360 Speaker 4: he had those guys who ran the offense for him. 408 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 4: Because he wanted to focus on being the head coach. 409 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,239 Speaker 4: He wanted to be engaged on the sideline in the 410 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 4: entire game and not over talking to the quarterback or 411 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 4: the offensive line. Now he'd go do that, but for 412 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 4: a head coach, you've got to be engaged with the 413 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 4: team on the field and the officials and the clock. 414 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 4: And I think, think I want my head coach to 415 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 4: bring in an offensive coordinator who is strong enough that 416 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 4: he's confident enough in that he can say, this is 417 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 4: what we're gonna do, and then he goes and does 418 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 4: what a head coach does, trust him to execute. 419 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 3: Very good. 420 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: All right, we'll be obviously following the story for a while. 421 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 1: Coming up, we're gona do a little this or that 422 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:26,199 Speaker 1: after break. For eleven years, dream Finders Homes has been 423 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: proud to call themselves the official home builder of the 424 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars. Do is a dreamfinders homes dot Com for 425 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: all of the available inventory and go jag I. 426 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 7: Think so, I mean, if our defense would improve, you know, 427 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 7: get to the middle of the pact. But we were 428 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 7: watch to intend this year. I mean, how many of 429 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 7: those games you know we could win? And I think 430 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:54,440 Speaker 7: the schemes on offense just being less predictable. I think, 431 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:58,719 Speaker 7: you know, we could be more productive on offense, and 432 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 7: we have the ability through the draft coming up and 433 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 7: salary cap to be able to you know, use that 434 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 7: to get more specific players we were seeking. So I mean, 435 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:13,160 Speaker 7: I expect this, you know, for us to have success 436 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 7: very quickly. 437 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 1: This oh this, oh hey, a little this or that 438 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: shot kind expecting a quick turnaround here, but we got 439 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 1: to figure out exactly what went wrong. Obviously there's going 440 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 1: to be a new head coach, new leader in charge, 441 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 1: but some of the players weighed in earlier this week 442 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 1: about some issues that they saw throughout the season. 443 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 12: I don't think we had enough synergy as a group. 444 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 12: I think there were times where certain guys are playing 445 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 12: their butt off, and as a group, we didn't all 446 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 12: show up at the same time. That's kind of what 447 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 12: it felt like. It was like trying to cover for 448 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 12: one guy not doing his job and then he gets 449 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 12: out of position and that kind of was like this 450 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 12: went down to. 451 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 8: Total Bowl for us, it's this we have to learn 452 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 8: how to win and learn how to take winning. Like 453 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 8: obviously we know how to win games, but when it 454 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 8: comes to being consistent with winning in the NFL, you 455 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 8: have to bring it week in and week out, and 456 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 8: sometimes it's just certain sacrifice that certain players or individuals 457 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 8: how to make. 458 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 1: Similar things are seen throughout miss assignments, you know, putting 459 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: in that effort, getting that full buy in. 460 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:11,439 Speaker 3: Jon. This is stuff we've been talking about. 461 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 1: Yes, that's something a coach needs to put into place, 462 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 1: but players have to buy in as well. So is 463 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: there plenty of blame to go around? Is it one 464 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 1: more than the other? 465 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:20,679 Speaker 6: With that, I think it's plenty of blame to go around, 466 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 6: and you know, I think the coach is responsible for it, 467 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 6: But I said all season, I think the players still 468 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:32,199 Speaker 6: have to be a group that takes it by the 469 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 6: you know, the horns if you will, and decides they're 470 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,400 Speaker 6: not going to lose. And I still think that there 471 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 6: has to be an element of that and to rally 472 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 6: around the coach. But I think there are they need 473 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 6: more key veteran players who are ready to be that guy. 474 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 4: I've heard culture defined by coaches as what you expect 475 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 4: and what you accept, right, and the expectation level has 476 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 4: to be set, and then you have to vigorously guard 477 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 4: that and it's the players that really guard it. 478 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:07,120 Speaker 5: They have to buy in. 479 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 4: As you heard Treyvon Lawrence say, Treyvon Lawrence, Trevon Walker 480 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 4: say this week, you have to have the players that 481 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 4: will hold the standard that the coach sets. And again 482 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 4: I go back to what Dan Campbell talked about, and 483 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 4: there are many NFL films clips of him talking about 484 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 4: guys that belong in their locker room and guys that 485 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 4: belong as part of that process of what they were 486 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,400 Speaker 4: doing in Detroit, and then all those players held everyone 487 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 4: to that standard. So that's really what you're looking for, 488 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:35,639 Speaker 4: is the guy that can come in and set the 489 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 4: expectations that the players then. 490 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 5: Will say this is what we expected. 491 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 3: One another go into the season. 492 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 1: We're obviously going to see some player changes as well, 493 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:48,199 Speaker 1: free agents and pending free agents, and possibly some of 494 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 1: the higher paid players that are entering the end of 495 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 1: their contracts, specifically Evan Ingram and Christian Kirk, both of 496 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: them weighing in on whether or not they want to 497 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: be here next year. 498 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 11: Yeah, I would love to be here, and I mean 499 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:05,159 Speaker 11: I'm under contract still. Obviously there's other things that I 500 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,479 Speaker 11: can't really control. So I'm just kind of focused on 501 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 11: being healthy again next next year, being healthy this offseason, 502 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 11: getting healthy, and just being the best player that I 503 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 11: can be, because you know, I feel like I've proven 504 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 11: that when I'm on the field. Uh, you know, I 505 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 11: am one of those players that is one of the 506 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 11: better ones on the field. And so I'm just looking 507 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 11: forward to to getting back to that. And I wanted 508 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 11: to be here in Jacksonville. 509 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 13: Like I said, there's a lot of changes that are 510 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:37,239 Speaker 13: coming when you have seasons like this, So that's up 511 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 13: to God. I think, uh, you know, I I wanna 512 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 13: be here. I have a home here, and I think 513 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 13: this is this is a special place to do something 514 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 13: great and I wanna continue to grind to do that. 515 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 13: So but that's all out of my control. And uh, 516 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 13: like I said, this is unfortunate thing about having a 517 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 13: season like this. There's gonna be a lot of changes, 518 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 13: and uh, you never know what side you're gonna be on. 519 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 13: But definitely, uh, definitely wanna be here, John. 520 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,400 Speaker 1: I think both these guys have been around long enough, 521 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 1: they know how this kind of works. Is it feasible 522 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 1: that both of them could be back next year? 523 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,400 Speaker 3: Very doubtful that both of them are back. I hope 524 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:10,120 Speaker 3: they're both back. 525 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 6: I mean, it's iffy that either of them are back, 526 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 6: really be but saying that it's because we don't know 527 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 6: what the direction of the coach who comes in, how 528 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 6: that's going to look. 529 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 3: There's meetings to be had. They will decide that. 530 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 6: Christian's salary cap number is huge, Evan's salary cap number 531 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 6: is big compared to Brenton strangers who came in, and 532 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 6: I don't know, I don't know that there's. 533 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 3: A emission of a drop off. I hope both they're back. 534 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:40,120 Speaker 6: I'm afraid we're saying goodbye to at least one really 535 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 6: good guy. 536 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 4: They're total pros the way that they handle themselves on 537 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 4: the field and in the locker room. Christians to the 538 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 4: expensive point of his career. Right when you sign a 539 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 4: free agent, generally you're looking at a three year deal here, 540 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:53,919 Speaker 4: no matter what the fourth does. But they're getting to, 541 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,120 Speaker 4: you know, twenty four million dollars and he's a nine 542 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 4: million dollar savings and Kai there's not just gonna be 543 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 4: a chain the coaching suite. There's a change on the field. 544 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 4: There's a new number one. There's a new sheriff in 545 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 4: town and his number is number seven, and Brian Thomas 546 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,120 Speaker 4: Junior has got to become the focal point of the offense. 547 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 4: Evan is a nineteen million dollar cap with about thirteen 548 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 4: million in dead money, so he's about six million in savings. 549 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 4: So you have to decide, you know, the offense how 550 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,919 Speaker 4: it's going to run. But everybody has to understand that 551 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,360 Speaker 4: the ball is going through seven now, not through Christian, 552 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 4: not through Evan. 553 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 1: It's gonna be some difficult decisions to be made that 554 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: will monitor throughout the off season. So stick with us. 555 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:34,199 Speaker 1: We'll come back after the break and tell you zach 556 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 1: schedule for the off season coming out. Jag fans, if 557 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: you want customers Daguars furniture for your home, checkup zipchuer 558 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,239 Speaker 1: dot com to brows all the customizable options. Zip cher 559 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: is furniture for fans. 560 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 14: I mean, I'm sorry for what I've came out and 561 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 14: did this season, but I mean it doesn't I mean 562 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 14: doesn't stop. Now. He's got to keep going keep pushing. 563 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 14: I mean, like someone I always trying to come in 564 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 14: and take your spot. So just come in, keep pushing it, 565 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 14: and keep putting your best before it each and every day. 566 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 1: Brian Thomas Jr. For sure the bright spot from this season. 567 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 1: Disappointment elsewhere, but he's been amazing. We do want to 568 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 1: talk quickly about this coaching search. We will be away 569 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 1: for about a month, so what's a realistic timeline you 570 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,439 Speaker 1: guys think early February we might know who this might be. 571 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:23,439 Speaker 6: Could be anywhere from January twentieth ish. Yeah, I'd be 572 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:27,680 Speaker 6: early to post super Bowl, so you gotta keep. 573 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:27,959 Speaker 3: The door upen. 574 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:29,440 Speaker 4: I would think the week of the super Bowl might 575 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 4: be a good opportunity for them to make that sort. 576 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 5: Of an announcement. 577 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 3: Very good. 578 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:34,640 Speaker 1: We'll be back the week after the super Bowl talking 579 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: about it and whoever the new head coaches. So enjoy 580 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 1: the off season.