1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,160 Speaker 1: I think one of the hardest things to do in 2 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: team sports, whether it be players, coaches, or managers, is 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: to win when you're expected to win. 4 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 2: Buck Show Walter joining us for an extended segment. Here 5 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 2: will at some point take a two minute break for 6 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:25,240 Speaker 2: the TV crowd on seventeen different regional networks and then 7 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 2: come back. But good to see you. How are you 8 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 2: happy spring training? 9 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:33,279 Speaker 1: To you? Thank God for Claudia trying to figure out 10 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: how to set up this microphone and all this other stuff. 11 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, producer lady, I. 12 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 1: Don't know what you're playing her, but it ain't enough. 13 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 3: Too much, too much, too much. 14 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: Hey, hey, don't you guys know greens and style. Look 15 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:53,480 Speaker 1: at Eric's background. 16 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 4: That's actually that's actually green monster green. It's actually like, 17 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 4: that's the green monster green and you can't see it. 18 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 4: But above the camera, I got a yellow lion going 19 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 4: above there, which I think is one of the dumbest 20 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:09,479 Speaker 4: things in all of baseball. They have a yellow line 21 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:11,119 Speaker 4: on the fence, but if it hits it, it's still 22 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:11,639 Speaker 4: in place. 23 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 3: So anyway, give. 24 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: Me, don't get me going, Please let me ask you. 25 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: A questionable AJ comes up to you. You got a 26 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 1: seven year contract, and he says, hey, Aj, we got 27 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 1: this great prospect. Our club's going to be better. We're 28 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: going to move you to first base. What would you. 29 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 5: Say to them, Well, I would say, if you want 30 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 5: to lose more games and move me to first base, 31 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 5: keep me right where I'm a kid. Because I listen, 32 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 5: I will be the first one to admit book, I 33 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 5: was scared as hell of the ball without my catching 34 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 5: gear on. If you stuck me an infield in BP, 35 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 5: I was scared of I was laying the crap out 36 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 5: of balls. But you put the gear on me, putting 37 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 5: a bat at holmet on me. I'll take whatever you got, 38 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:52,559 Speaker 5: But for some reason, you stuck me in that dirt. Nope, 39 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 5: I wanted no part of the ball. 40 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: But if I put shin guards, a mask and a 41 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: chest protector on a ubr playing first base. 42 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 5: Oh, I'd knocked the hell of that down and flip 43 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 5: it to the picture. I'd have the most assistant the league. 44 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 5: I'd be like John Stockton Buck. I'd be like flip 45 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 5: flip flip. 46 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: Okay, what's the over under hell? Long before the first 47 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: fight tonight? 48 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 3: Three minutes? 49 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:17,519 Speaker 1: I say none. 50 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 4: I bet they don't have any Wow, Okay, come on, Buck, 51 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 4: you know it's you know, it's drama. You know you 52 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 4: know that they have you know they're setting it up. 53 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 4: It's like it's already predetermined. 54 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 2: Hey w w e they got their script. You're fighting 55 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 2: him tonight? 56 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: No? 57 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 2: Uh, in all serious this way. I want to backtrack 58 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 2: for a moment, though, Buck, because we have you on, 59 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 2: so you gotta you gotta give us your opinion here. 60 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 2: First on on Devors. So, okay, Bregman gets signed. They 61 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 2: were pursuing them all off season. They also were talking 62 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 2: about Nolan Ironatto for a good chunk of the off season, 63 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 2: so it's it's not new that they were going after 64 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 2: a third baseman. What do you think goes on behind 65 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 2: the scenes when this happens and then why does it 66 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 2: get into public drama once we're in camp? 67 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: Well, there's I find out. Usually there's reasons for everything. 68 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 1: Some of them you don't know. I know that when 69 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:11,519 Speaker 1: you look at your manager is an ex infielder, okay, 70 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: so he's going to put a lot of premium on 71 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 1: infield defense. And how can you make up ground with 72 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 1: other teams? So many people put a premium on offense, 73 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 1: and there's a way to make up ground if you 74 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 1: get better defensively. I think it's as simple that as 75 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: I'm always careful about when with Latin guys. Sometimes it 76 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: gets lost in translations, so you've got to be careful 77 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: about basing things literally on what somebody says. I mean, 78 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: you look at Bregman. You know, he said, hey, wherever 79 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: you want me to play, it's about the team winning 80 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 1: and whatever. You know, that obviously is great. I actually 81 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: think he'll might play some short stop if Trevor Story 82 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: has an issue or whatever. But having a third baseman 83 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: on the team that is better than your current third 84 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: baseman if nothing else, is going to put a little 85 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: heat on Devors to maybe be you know, better at 86 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: third base. I think the competition is great now when 87 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: you got that type of contract. You know what, the 88 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: competition has to come from within the player because whether 89 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 1: he is good or not, he's still going to get paid. 90 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 1: So you know, sometimes I wish, you know, some of 91 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: the peripheral people wouldn't weigh in on it, but everybody, 92 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: you know, the first basement seems to be weighing in 93 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 1: on it. And you know, I haven't quite figured that 94 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: one out yet, but you know, Bregman's handling perfectly. But 95 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: you know, I believe I've got some real personal opinions 96 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: on what do you guys think? I mean, what do 97 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: you think has happened? I can't imagine Alex, knowing Alex, 98 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 1: that he hasn't communicated this beforehand. 99 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:53,840 Speaker 5: That was my question to you, Buck is how does 100 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 5: this get to this point? How does it get to 101 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 5: spring training? And I know there you know Devs might 102 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 5: have already been there, but you know, knowing Alex Cora, 103 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 5: he's a communicator, right, So I can't imagine he didn't 104 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 5: pick up the phone call Raffi and say, listen, man, 105 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 5: we're close on Alex pregnant. Now there's a chance he 106 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 5: could play third base? Are you okay with moving and 107 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 5: him not saying yes to that? Like, as a manager, 108 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 5: wouldn't that be your first phone call is hey, RAFFI, 109 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 5: guess what? And then you got to call Tristan Casses 110 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 5: and tell him not to say what he said, because listen, Tristan, 111 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 5: nobody really gives a crap what you say, because you're 112 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 5: out of all the three of these guys, you're way 113 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 5: low on the totem pole of these three. So guess 114 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 5: what if anyone's getting kicked out, it's going to be you. 115 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 5: So wouldn't you think those would be His phone calls 116 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 5: is hey, Alex, where do you want to plan? And 117 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 5: if he says third base, then you got to call 118 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 5: RAFFI have that conversation. 119 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 3: Then you call. 120 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 5: Tristan Costas and say, guess what, buddy? Sorry, he might 121 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 5: be sool right now. 122 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:49,479 Speaker 1: Well, my question to you, ajas word has Devers moved to? 123 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 3: That's if you move them too DH. 124 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 5: I think you're a team, but he doesn't want to 125 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 5: go to DH because if you move them to DH, 126 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 5: you lose Yoshida's bat and you lose Castas is about 127 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 5: it at some point because you know there's gonna be times 128 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 5: where you're gonna want to miss mix and match and 129 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 5: do things. So it's a it's a tough situation. And 130 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 5: I've said it on here Buck and I'll say it 131 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 5: again opening day, Raffie Devers will play third base. It 132 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 5: might not last very long, but he's gonna be there 133 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 5: on third base as soon as he makes that first 134 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 5: there or guess what's gonna come up. You know you've 135 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 5: been around Boston, you've been around New York. Get Devers 136 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 5: off the field, Get pregnant at third base. You want 137 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 5: to go, you know how it's gonna go. So but 138 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 5: I said on opening day he'll be the third basement. 139 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 5: After that, all bets are off. 140 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: Well, here's my question. When I say words Devers moving 141 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: to my next question is if he moves to third base, 142 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: Bragman who plays second base? 143 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 3: Who's on first? Christian Campbell? I don't know. 144 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 5: Are you trusting a rookie kid that's ever has no 145 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 5: big league experience to do that. 146 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 3: That's why I said on opening day. 147 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 5: That's why I said on opening day, I think Devers 148 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 5: will be the third baseman. Pregmant will be at second 149 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 5: Dell just after that, if Campbell goes down, if he 150 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 5: has a great spring, goes down at Triple A for 151 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 5: a month, mash, guess what, he'll be up there quicker. 152 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 3: Then they'll figure it out. 153 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 1: You know they'll figure it out because it plays itself out. 154 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:06,600 Speaker 5: Now. 155 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 1: It's a big story. But you're you're a good team 156 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: with Bregman on it, a better team. So you know, 157 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: is he the player that he was six years ago? 158 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: Nobody is, but he brings such a presence and a 159 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: pedigree that they need there. I love what Boston's done 160 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: in the off season kind of under the radar. They've 161 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: added some really upside things to happen there, and defensively 162 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: they're better. I think they're more versatile. I know, in 163 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: the big leagues, when you have guys that you good players, 164 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: that you can move around and not sacrifice something, it's 165 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: a real advantage. And Bregman's one of those guys. I 166 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: mean people, I remember the first time I saw this 167 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: guy playing shortstop at LSU in the College Rule Series. 168 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: I got up and I called our scouty director, who 169 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: is this guy? You know? He was a shortstop. I mean, 170 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: this guy can play all over and you've always got 171 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: to be asking yourself, what if something you pencil in 172 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: or and then all of a sudden it's hurt for 173 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: an extended period of time, the season doesn't stop. You're 174 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: you're what ifs are very important, So you know, I 175 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: think Alex Bregman gives him a lot of versatility where 176 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: he can move in. 177 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 5: All right, Brook, what would you say to Tristan Cassas 178 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 5: if this whole thing's going down and you get a 179 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 5: young guy that really had I mean, listen, he's supposed 180 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 5: to be his study. He hasn't really done. He's been 181 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 5: injuries unfortunately. But if you're Alex kra and you're Craig Breslo, 182 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 5: or you're a player on his team, what are you 183 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 5: telling him when he goes into this press conference and 184 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 5: says what he says. 185 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: I think a lot of times people got to get 186 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 1: caught up in that. Wow, people are actually listening to 187 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, They're waging in on. Sometimes you can 188 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: get caught up in the disease of of you know, 189 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: thinking that you know your opinion matters that much, you know, Ahja, 190 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: I asked you and Cratsy both. I mean all these things, 191 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: all these says you have up in weight rooms and 192 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: down the halls of locker rooms, and quotes from this 193 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: and that whatever. I don't think you've ever read one 194 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: and go, wow, that made me a better player. You know, 195 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: I hadn't one thing up. I painted over all of them. 196 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 1: Just it said play better, Just play better. You know, 197 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 1: nobody wants to hear all the peripheral stuff. Just play better. 198 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: You know, you know there's a lot of lip service 199 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: paid to it. So you know, I'm sure that Alex 200 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: will have some of those conversations behind the scenes, and 201 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: I give you know he's a smart guy and a 202 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: good manager. And Barry I've had his brother, Joey, who's 203 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 1: brilliant baseball guy. And these things will get handled behind 204 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: the scenes and someone will sort themselves out. But competition 205 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 1: is a good thing, and you know, you always control 206 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: it as a player because you can play better and 207 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: shut everybody up. It's like David Bohm said, they're waiting 208 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:46,839 Speaker 1: to embrace me. David Cohen said one time after getting 209 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: boot off the field, he said, it's my responsibility to 210 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 1: pitch better. If I pitch better, they'll cheer for me. 211 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: And that's exactly what happened. 212 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 5: You control it, buck Two things. One, there's an old 213 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 5: thing in baseball. If you don't like it, play better. 214 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 5: If you're in the mind leagues you don't like it, 215 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 5: play better, get to the big leagues, right, And then 216 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 5: I disagree. 217 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 3: With you on one. 218 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 5: There's only one quote I think I've ever seen that 219 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 5: made me play better. It was an old Tiger stadium. 220 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 5: You're walking down the tunnel, which, by the way, I 221 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 5: had to duck. It was like this tall right walking 222 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 5: down a. 223 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: J I did not help it. 224 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,199 Speaker 3: There was a urinal I'm sure you remember the urinal 225 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 3: that was there. I think it was on the. 226 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 5: Left side as you went down the tunnel and over 227 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:25,599 Speaker 5: the urinal. It said some of the best players in 228 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:28,079 Speaker 5: the history of the game have peed here, be great 229 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 5: today or something like that. 230 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 3: That one made me want to go out there. I 231 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 3: was fired up because I'm. 232 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 5: Like, I'm peeing, we're babe, Ruth Pede back in nineteen hundred, Well, 233 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 5: there was. 234 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: One there that said, don't put cigarette cigarettes in the urinal, 235 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 1: it makes them soggy and hard to like. Also, I 236 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: remember that, I said, Man, I wonder if ty Cob 237 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 1: I ever peed in this place. It's pretty cool. But 238 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: he was not a viser. You know what I saw 239 00:10:54,920 --> 00:11:00,559 Speaker 1: the other day that if if ty Cob went oh 240 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 1: for was it ty Cob went oh for two thousand, 241 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: five hundred and thirty, he would still be hitting three hundred? 242 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: Was it Cob? Somebody? That was amazing? Okay? What else? 243 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 4: So if you added so, if you added ty Cobbs 244 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,559 Speaker 4: numbers to my numbers, he would still be hitting over 245 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 4: three hundred. 246 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 3: Is that what you're saying. I appreciate that. Buck. 247 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: Let me tell you some chat. I did a little 248 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: homework on you. Hey, do you guys know what the 249 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: nickname of Eastern Mennonite call University is. I do. 250 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 3: The wagons, the wheel, the horse drawn carriages? Come on, 251 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 3: it's another name for a lion. The other name for 252 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 3: a lion royal. 253 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 1: Why is it that stadium named after you? 254 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,839 Speaker 3: Oh? Because fuck? Because I'm cheap. Because I'm cheap and 255 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:51,959 Speaker 3: I didn't got to give the money, and the money I. 256 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 4: Did give back. They asked if they wanted my name 257 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 4: on it, and I said, not a chance, not a chance. 258 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:01,679 Speaker 3: That is Chapola named after you? You? Why is Mississippi 259 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 3: State not named after you? 260 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: Because Paul Mary Clark went there and Bradley and uh 261 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:12,319 Speaker 1: your buddy, uh. 262 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 3: Dick in Thiggie my boy love Piggy Penn. 263 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:17,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, crats? 264 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 4: What else you got another? Another clubhouse issue that we 265 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:23,439 Speaker 4: got to take care of? Pictures and catchers. 266 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 3: Report. 267 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 4: The manager's there, he's taking hands. How is your off 268 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 4: season hand in your little pocket and your pants? 269 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 3: What? What? Wait a minute? One of our starters from 270 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 3: last year didn't show up. Oh. 271 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 4: I talked to him. He's not going to show up 272 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 4: until the very first game. How do you handle that? 273 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 4: And are you good with that? In a sense? Of 274 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 4: creating the culture that you want to create, a competitiveness togetherness. 275 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:51,959 Speaker 1: I think you kind of make it in consequence, so 276 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: it falls underneath the no you know what I mean. 277 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: I'm sure that it was all communicating you what was 278 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 1: going on. You don't like it, but you pick the 279 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 1: battles worth winning. I'm sure you know everybody can do math. 280 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 1: You know how many starters there are. You could go 281 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:11,199 Speaker 1: with six men. It'll work out injury wise or whatever. 282 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 1: But you'll look back later on the season, go why 283 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: did we make that a bigger thing than it was. 284 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 1: You know, it shouldn't surprise anybody. I mean that you 285 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 1: knew he wasn't going to be happy about it, and 286 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: it'll work itself out one way or the other. But 287 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: you try not to make it a you know, sometimes 288 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: players will make it a distraction on its own, but 289 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:35,079 Speaker 1: what you try to do is make it inconsequential, like, Okay, 290 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: do whatever you want to do, and that's fine, go ahead, 291 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: We're not going to let it disrupt what we're trying 292 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 1: to get done here. I just don't think you dwell 293 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 1: on it and make it a real topic of conversation. 294 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: I think most players just you know, you get to 295 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 1: the perfect point where people are looking for sympathetic years 296 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: in your locker room. You know youve got the culture 297 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: going on when somebody who's got a complaint goes to 298 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 1: a teammate and AJ goes, I don't want to hear 299 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:02,719 Speaker 1: he goes to Cratchy. He didn't want to hear it. 300 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: You keep going around looking for that. That's why I 301 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,599 Speaker 1: always talk about eliminating sympathetic years. You think Bregman is 302 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 1: going to be a sympathetic year to BS in Boston. 303 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: He's a pretty tunnel vision about Hey, if this isn't 304 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: something that helps us win or those ball games, I 305 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: really don't want to hear it. So you try to 306 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 1: eliminate all the sympathetic game things to BS to get 307 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 1: your way of winning, and it'll work itself out. I 308 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: wouldn't dwell on it. And you'd had this communication long before. 309 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: I mean, the math was there a long time ago. 310 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: So you know, the way injuries are and the way 311 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: people you know starting pitching, you better be about ten 312 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: deep in the day's game. 313 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 4: Did you have a situation like this where hey, everybody's 314 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 4: here and this guy didn't show up Because I had 315 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 4: never heard of it, but Now as this came out 316 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 4: over the past week, we hear, oh yeah, well, actually 317 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 4: I knew this rule and I saw this guy used 318 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 4: to do it and push it. Did you ever have 319 00:14:57,760 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 4: anybody do that? 320 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: Way back when? You know, a guy named passbal Perez. 321 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 1: But that was for us another story altogether, but. 322 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 3: We never had that was crazy. That guy was full crazy. 323 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 5: Budgy threw the didn't he throw the bat at that 324 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 5: picture that one time when he got hit they. 325 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 3: Threw out when he was at the braves, he chucked 326 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 3: his bat. That was awesome. 327 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: I'll never forget. We all get. He finally showed up 328 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: in camp. We found out later why he was late, 329 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: but we mister Steinery made all the coaches come back 330 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: from the hotel. But he did a side at night 331 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: when he got in. He had a work day, so 332 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: we were all standing around the dugout in turn the 333 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: lights on. That was another might be in the book 334 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 1: one day, but uh, you know, I never had that 335 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: much depth. You know. We always had four starters and 336 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: then we had competition for the other spot. Sometimes three 337 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: starters and two young players competing. You know, because spring 338 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: training is such a fooler if you're evaluating players in 339 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: spring training or in September. Those are the two big 340 00:15:56,760 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: foolers on players is September call ups and spring training 341 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: feed ons. If you base your decisions on that and 342 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 1: you haven't already come to conclusion because of track record, 343 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 1: you're gonna make some mistakes on player evaluation. And I 344 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 1: still see it. I see it all the time. Spring 345 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 1: training evaluating outfos and spring training is awful because you 346 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: got a high sky, you got win, you got depth perception, 347 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 1: you got to field. They're not used to outfit. I've 348 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: seen gold glove outfielders look like a monkey doing you 349 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: know what. In spring training. They don't look good. So 350 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 1: you got to be careful about evaluating outfielders in spring training. 351 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 2: All right, So I want to get into this a 352 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 2: little bit more, so quick two minutes, Uh, TV fam 353 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 2: will be ready back everyone watching everywhere else obviously, give 354 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 2: us two minutes so we can bank that break and 355 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 2: get another ten with buck be right back, all right, 356 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 2: ft FAM collectors, there is a new better way to buy, sell, trade, 357 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 2: or display your sports cards. It's called Arena Club and krats, 358 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 2: I know you love it. 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All that time I thought I had a chance. 381 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 1: Do you know what you evaluate by talking to people? 382 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: Talk to you a manager, You talked to your hitting coordinator, 383 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 1: You talked to your guidance counselor from high school, You 384 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: talk to your mom and dad. I mean there's a lot. 385 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 1: There's a lot of ways, a lot of ways to 386 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: evaluate somebody without the I trust track record more than anything. 387 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 1: All right, what you got old? 388 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 5: No, no, buck, I got a question before you go 389 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 5: bring did you ever did you ever have Crats. 390 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 3: On your team? 391 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 1: I wish I had? No. 392 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 5: Okay, you know why you didn't because you just said 393 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 5: you talked to their managers before you talk to your 394 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 5: boy John Russell, and he did. He did not recommend Crats. 395 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 5: That's why you never signed him. 396 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 3: I knew it. I knew there was a connection there. 397 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: No, he hammered left handed pitching. We would have loved 398 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:56,160 Speaker 1: to have had him. We saw a lot of John wanted. 399 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 4: John didn't remember me. That's okay, it was just my 400 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:00,679 Speaker 4: first daily manager. But he remember me. 401 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 1: Oh yeah he did, Oh yeah I did. John didn't 402 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 1: miss anything. John a few words, but many much knowledge, 403 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: few words, much knowledge. My type of guy. What you 404 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 1: guys hate about spring training. Ag, I can't imagine you 405 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:14,919 Speaker 1: as spring training? 406 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 3: Oh what did I hate about spring training? All of it? 407 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 3: Every second of it? What did I like? 408 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 5: If you asked me what I liked about spring training? 409 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 5: I can tell you nothing, not a thing. You know 410 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 5: what I liked about spring training? Got on a plane 411 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 5: and left. 412 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:29,880 Speaker 3: That was it. No, I didn't like the I. 413 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 5: Like the first day, when you show up, you see everybody, 414 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:34,159 Speaker 5: the first game, and then when you get on the 415 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 5: plane to leave, that's it. Other than that, I hate 416 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 5: because I was a bad spring training player, because I 417 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 5: could never get excited for a spring tra You know 418 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 5: what the like. The most excited I think I ever 419 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 5: was in spring training was I grounded into two double 420 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 5: plays my first two at bats, and I'm standing on 421 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 5: deck and Ozzy Gehan and Joey Cours in there and 422 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 5: they go, we bet you one hundred dollars you ground 423 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:55,199 Speaker 5: into another double play. And I was like, there's no 424 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 5: way guy gets on first double play. I'm running to first. 425 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 3: We told you, We told you. Oh dude, that was 426 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 3: probably the most matter I ever got in spring training. 427 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: You guys would have liked my spring training. There's there's 428 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: so much just you know, there's so much stuff in 429 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 1: spring training that really doesn't serve a purpose. I think 430 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 1: guys that go, why why are we doing this? You know, 431 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: you got to add a eight to twelve minute attention span. 432 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: You're basically trying to entertain players too, and you got 433 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 1: to have movement. You got to you know, you don't 434 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:25,639 Speaker 1: do something to get it right. You do something till 435 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: you can't get it wrong, and you know, you try 436 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 1: to make it interesting. You know, we'd have a talent show. 437 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:33,880 Speaker 1: We'd have different things where people you want to make 438 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 1: it something that people want to come to. You know, 439 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: we'd go to a movie theater and go over things. 440 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: It's just, you know, spring training, let's face it, for 441 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 1: position players, how long did you guys really need to 442 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:47,679 Speaker 1: get ready? It's about the pitching. How long do you 443 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: think you guys need it? 444 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 4: Truly thirty five events That's about what I would get 445 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 4: and I got used to that, So maybe that's what 446 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 4: I got used to. But I wasn't getting ready to 447 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,479 Speaker 4: be an everyday player either, so it was different. I 448 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 4: love spring training. I love the golf outing at the 449 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:05,640 Speaker 4: end of spring training with the Phillies that we had 450 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 4: every year. The whole team gets out there. I love 451 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 4: hanging out afterwards. I love, you know, the workout. I 452 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,239 Speaker 4: enjoyed spring training. I really did well. 453 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 1: I always tried to look at it through a player's eyes. 454 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: Would I want to do this? Would I want to 455 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,640 Speaker 1: Does this really serve a purpose? Because they sniff out 456 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: a phony and a heartbeat. If you're doing something just 457 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,640 Speaker 1: to stay on the field, it's no good and it's 458 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 1: got to have a purpose. You know, it's about getting 459 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 1: the pictures ready. You know what you do with the 460 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: pictures is I see now they bring thirty pitchers to camp. 461 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: Spare me. There's no way you can evaluate thirty pitchers. 462 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 1: There's like teams that have seventy seventy two players average. 463 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 1: I think sixty four. I always try to say under 464 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: sixty because it wasn't fair of the people you brought 465 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 1: in there. And if you need something, you go over 466 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:53,439 Speaker 1: to minor league camp and get I think there's so 467 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: much money wasted in spring training. You know, side works 468 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,120 Speaker 1: now take forever. It used to take fifteen minutes. Now 469 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,679 Speaker 1: they throw a pitch, have to go evaluate that pitch. 470 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 1: They're max efforting things very early on, and I think 471 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 1: that's wonderason why you have so many injuries in the spring. 472 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 1: You always try to work in you know there's going 473 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: to be some injury along the way, so you try 474 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 1: to buffer your schedule along with that. There's so much 475 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 1: planning that goes into This is about the pissing musician. 476 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: Players get bored very quickly. 477 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 4: You talk about the pitching. You just you deviated me 478 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 4: from what my question was going to be. Have you 479 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 4: seen videos of the bullpens that guys are thrown because 480 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 4: in between breaks here when we transition, we have videos 481 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 4: and it's three to four guys going buck. There is 482 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 4: a camera, there is a track man, There is probably 483 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 4: three or four staff members all watching one person. If 484 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 4: you watch the entire eight pack, it's unbelievable how many 485 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 4: people there are. Do you feel like there's too many 486 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:57,400 Speaker 4: people touching each pitch, giving too much evaluation to each 487 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 4: pitch that don't have any credit to do that kind 488 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 4: of stuff. 489 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 1: Yes, without a doubt. Did you guys see the tape 490 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 1: of the the picture from Japan? What's his name that 491 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:12,400 Speaker 1: had his first sidework yesterday with the Dodgers rookie sockeye, 492 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: Oh my god, it must have been there, must have 493 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 1: been fifty people standing around. First of all, how can 494 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 1: you have that many players standing around? Un don't you 495 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 1: have something to do? And you tell him, hey, we're 496 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: not evaluating you just get your work in. You got 497 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 1: that many people watching your first outing, and you've got 498 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,959 Speaker 1: the whole your whole country, and everybody in the States 499 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,160 Speaker 1: is watching me. You don't think you feel some pressure 500 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,479 Speaker 1: to turn up the dial a little bit. I just 501 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 1: I never watched. If I watched the sidework, I would 502 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: do it where they couldn't see me. I would stand 503 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: way over to the side, away from everybody. And we 504 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 1: only did two or three at a time. You know, 505 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: you got that many people. You know, the catchers hated it. 506 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,919 Speaker 1: I didn't take eight catchers. I took six catchers and 507 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: two bullpen guys because you don't need eight catch you can. 508 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: There's so much fact that comes on in spring training. 509 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 1: It's about getting your major league team ready. You know, 510 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 1: it's not a tryout camp. And if you don't know 511 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 1: who your prospects are by then you're probably down a 512 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:12,880 Speaker 1: bad road anyway. 513 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 4: All right, we'll talk about the Dodgers. How do you 514 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 4: approach it? If you're Dave Roberts, you've got two rings 515 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,439 Speaker 4: in your pocket. Now, well one ring about to be 516 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 4: in your pocket. But you sit there and you go 517 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 4: Aaron Boone just got an extension. Craig Counsel got this 518 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,919 Speaker 4: contract two years ago. How do you evaluate yourself and 519 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 4: how important is it to the other managers in the 520 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:40,959 Speaker 4: game that you get what you're worth in the market. 521 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: Well, that's true. I think one of the hardest things 522 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 1: to do in team sports, whether it be players, coaches, 523 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 1: or managers, is to win when you're expected to win. 524 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 1: That's why I have so much respect for the Patriots 525 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: when Belichick was there as a saban when he was 526 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 1: at Alabama, Day fits into that. I mean, there's only 527 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 1: one way they're going to be equated to being a 528 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 1: success this year and be the last team standing. That's 529 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 1: a hard mentality for a team to have. Yeah, they're 530 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 1: very talented and they're very deep, but Dave has done 531 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: a great job of playing a good hand well, and 532 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 1: that's hard to do. There's a lot of guys that 533 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 1: are good at playing a bad hand well. But uh, 534 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 1: you know, some situations, Hey we're better than the other team. 535 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 1: Let's don't over manage that. There's a certain skill to 536 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 1: that and keeping and I think Dave does it well 537 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,400 Speaker 1: and I think he'll be rewarded for it before it's 538 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,239 Speaker 1: over all. 539 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 3: Right books, Speaking of managers, you managed under some tough owners. 540 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:42,399 Speaker 3: I don't know. 541 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 5: I want I want to know what was it like 542 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 5: managing for the boss? And then you got Cohen, so 543 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 5: you got kind of you know, you got the boss 544 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 5: who seems like man, he's you know, you could have 545 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,199 Speaker 5: been fired at any second. And George Steinbrenner, and then 546 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 5: you have Stevie Cohen who're just like I just want 547 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 5: to win. I want to win, but kind of wined 548 00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:59,719 Speaker 5: about it as the more a happy, go lucky kind 549 00:25:59,760 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 5: of guy. 550 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: Well, you know, they're very competitive men. That's why they're successful. 551 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: And what they did, you know, Peter Angelos was one 552 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 1: of the great trial lawyers in the country, and Mike 553 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 1: Flanninggan gave me a great piece of advice when he 554 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 1: was there with us. He said, Buck, do what I 555 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 1: didn't do. Go over and sit down with the owner 556 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: once a home stand, have once with him, let him 557 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 1: air his griefs, because I really want to keep my 558 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 1: Coastin staff intact and consistent for the players. And you know, 559 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 1: he would give me what he didn't like. And we 560 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 1: even get loud sometime whatever, But at at some point 561 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 1: we'd have a ham sandwich and everything would be okay. 562 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 1: But communication was key, you know, with mister Steinberg, the 563 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 1: fans didn't want to hear you complain about it. You 564 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 1: do the job description when you took the job, it 565 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: shouldn't surprise you. I got a one year contract for 566 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy five thousand dollars managed the New 567 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 1: York Yankees. Therefore, I was on a one year plan, 568 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,199 Speaker 1: really a day to day plan, and I think the 569 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 1: fans didn't want to hear it. They just, you know, 570 00:26:58,080 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 1: it's more about show me, and we tried to do 571 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 1: that in Baltimore. Is how can we make up the 572 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 1: ground on some of the bigger market bigger payroll teams, 573 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 1: better defense, better relationships, better six year free agents, better fundamentals, 574 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 1: things that you could do that you didn't have to 575 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 1: pay for, you know, so ownership, you know, first of all, 576 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 1: I don't have enough money to own a team. I 577 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,159 Speaker 1: always said, what do you need me to bring? What 578 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 1: do you want to be about? What do you need 579 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:27,919 Speaker 1: here that you haven't had? And we'll see if we 580 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 1: can bring it. You try to have a partnership with 581 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 1: the general manager and the ownership and the manager, and 582 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 1: you were all in it together and you had each 583 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 1: other's back. But there were some challenges along the way. 584 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,400 Speaker 1: But you know, I kept saying, I don't have enough 585 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 1: money to buy the team, So you knew the job 586 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,919 Speaker 1: description going in, so you better bring it what he wants. 587 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 2: Hey, and you don't have the powerful position of changing 588 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:57,919 Speaker 2: the rules. But we've had some of those. So the 589 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 2: big one coming up in spring training is the challenge 590 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 2: system with the abs with the robo umps, right, and 591 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 2: you can do a couple of challenges. So what do 592 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 2: you think about this? And now that's going to play out. 593 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 2: But also a lot of fans are pretty ticked off, 594 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,239 Speaker 2: Buck because there was a report yesterday that they might 595 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,719 Speaker 2: get rid of that strike zone box on the screen 596 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 2: when this gets implemented, likely in twenty twenty six. You know, 597 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 2: I'm a fan, I'm an entertainment guy. You want to 598 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 2: change the rules and make it better, I'm all for it. 599 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 2: I want this to happen, but I'm like, don't take 600 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 2: away a strike zone box. Eighty three percent of our 601 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,120 Speaker 2: fans yesterday when we did a poll said they love 602 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 2: the kzone. 603 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 1: Well, keep in mind that the K zone is not accurate. 604 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 2: That's okay, close, it's close enough. 605 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 3: Good. 606 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 2: I want to guide. I want to guide on the screen. Buck, 607 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 2: it's close enough. I don't want nothing. If you give 608 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 2: me nothing, if you can make it perfect, I'm good. 609 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 2: But if I have to get something that's close, I'd 610 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 2: rather have that than nothing on the screen. 611 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: Well, you understand you're managing. There's always a camera well 612 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 1: to your left and guys are looking at it. I mean, 613 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 1: you want to get thrown out of a game, tell 614 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 1: a manager what the K box said, Okay, because they'll 615 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 1: tell you. You know, that's what it's gonna happen, is okay. 616 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 1: You're going to evaluate very quickly who on your team 617 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 1: doesn't cry wolf and its accurate. Can you imagine aj 618 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: in the first inning, he's at the bat and it 619 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 1: guy throws them the pitch the very first inning, and 620 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 1: he challenges and he's wrong, and then he's wrong again 621 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 1: the next day. Now everybody on the team gets hurt 622 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 1: because you're losing your challenge because you only get so 623 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: many the catcher, the pitcher, and the and the the 624 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:36,719 Speaker 1: hitter right, So you better be accurate when you challenge 625 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 1: because you talk hibout, tick off your teammates. Can you 626 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 1: imagine Aj and Cratsey if you got a guy that 627 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 1: continually wants to challenge and he's wrong all the time 628 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 1: and it's hurting the team. Now of a sudden seventh, 629 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 1: eighth and ninth in and you don't have any challenges. 630 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 3: Left, we're gonna keep no. 631 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 5: But he has to have a meeting for that as 632 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 5: a manager, because let's let's say, okay, I'm gonna. 633 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 3: Use your old team. I'm gonna use the Yankees for example. 634 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 5: Right, Aaron Judge has got a great eye, right, But 635 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 5: then whoever's hitting ninth for him, whoever that is, and 636 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 5: they're not Aaron Judge, they use the challenge and they're wrong. 637 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 5: And then Aaron Judge comes up in a big situation 638 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 5: and he goes like this and they're like, oh, sorry, Aaron, 639 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 5: you're at it as a manager, don't you have to 640 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 5: have a meeting and say, listen, you know you're Don Mattingly. 641 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 5: You get the challenge, but you know, whoever's hitting ninth 642 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 5: for you, you don't get to challenge that call because you're 643 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 5: not that person. 644 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 1: You better be really right. If you're in the first 645 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 1: seven innings, six innings, you better be sure you're right. 646 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 1: They'd better be a game changer. I got one for you, 647 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 1: the one I can't understand. I've said this for years. 648 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 1: You're gonna have to registure your height with the league. Now, 649 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 1: what if a guy hits out of a crouch, or 650 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 1: he changes his batting stance or crouchs from the back 651 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 1: to a bat. You know, all of a sudden, some 652 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 1: guy is in a crouch and they throw a pitch 653 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 1: where if he's standing erect, it would have been a strike. 654 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 1: It's gonna creates some issues. I think that's going to 655 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 1: be a challenge for him because aja you may change 656 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 1: or crass. You guys may change your batting stance from 657 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 1: what it was. Maybe maybe you hit straight up and 658 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden you decide to hit differently. 659 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 1: How is that going to be adjusted? I haven't heard 660 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 1: the answer of that yet. 661 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 2: I think Jason Stark wrote about it. There is some 662 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 2: science to it, and that was part of why it 663 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 2: was taking some time to get it done. I don't 664 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 2: know the answer, so I don't quote me on it. 665 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 2: I have to go back and find it. But there 666 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 2: is an article that includes some information on that because 667 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 2: there were players. I think that we're trying to game 668 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 2: the system in the miners, and they figured out a 669 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 2: way to counter it. This has been getting tested in 670 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 2: the minors for half a decade. 671 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 1: I'm sure I thought about it. I was on the 672 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 1: rules committee for a while, and everything I found I 673 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 1: got so much more confidence in it because they are 674 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,239 Speaker 1: working on a lot of these things. We bring up, well, 675 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 1: what if this happened, what if that happened. Believe it. 676 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 1: They're on top of this stuff because they've had a 677 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 1: lot of trials and trial and error trying to get 678 00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 1: to this point. But I think, you know it's good 679 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 1: for the game. I don't want to be able to 680 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 1: trust it. I don't know why we don't aren't able 681 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 1: to challenge everything. Just take it out of the manager altogether. 682 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 1: Why wouldn't we just have it come directly from New York. 683 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 1: I mean they keep they went from twenty seconds to 684 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 1: this second. I mean the manager basically has got no time. 685 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 1: You talk about pressure. The guy that's running the replay 686 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 1: up the runway, he's the guy that's got pressure on me. 687 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 1: I tell him, I go listen. If you're wrong all 688 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 1: the time. I'll get somebody out somebody else. But if 689 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 1: you say, ooh, that's a tough one, Buck, I don't know, 690 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 1: we'll get We'll definitely get somebody else. 691 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's a big job. Video room guy or 692 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 2: whatever they call hi quality control. That that matters. That's 693 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 2: a game changer, Buck, This was awesome. Appreciate the extended time. 694 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 2: Obviously we'll get you back. But good to see time. 695 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 3: Guy. 696 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 1: I have time. It's not like I'm hurting for time here. 697 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 1: We do too. 698 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 2: Actually. The only thing is one of our team members, 699 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 2: Katie Wu is on the line waiting to join us next. 700 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 2: So it's out of respect for her. She's a superstar. 701 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 2: But we want you back soon, so appreciate you about it. 702 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 1: Hey, good luck to Anthony John, good luck tonight. 703 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 3: Well you're rot. Why are you rooting for Canada? 704 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 1: No? 705 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 3: Come on, man, I mean come on, I mean good luck. 706 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 3: What do you mean we're only good? Good luck to me? 707 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 1: Hey, I don't even know the rules of hockey, but 708 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 1: I'll be watching. 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So this is Ryan Davish 737 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,759 Speaker 2: posting a photo of the number fifty one etched into 738 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 2: the back of the haircut of Julio Rodriguez, obviously honoring 739 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,319 Speaker 2: each ro making the Hall of Fame guys. I heard 740 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 2: that he got an hof also added there, which I 741 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 2: think is cool. 742 00:34:56,520 --> 00:35:00,439 Speaker 3: It's fun thoughts, that's what are you doing spring training? 743 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:01,839 Speaker 3: Because spring training is boring as hell. 744 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 2: Exactly exactly. I agree. People are like, oh, look at 745 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 2: Randy Rose rain is hair, he died it cool and 746 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,319 Speaker 2: he's doing live BP great. 747 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 3: This person put on fifteen to twenty pounds. It might 748 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:23,439 Speaker 3: be a monster year. Yeah right, it's just dude eight 749 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 3: too much. 750 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,359 Speaker 4: He shouldn't have put on fifteen to twenty pounds at 751 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 4: his position. 752 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,279 Speaker 2: Do you know the biggest one? The one thing I 753 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 2: do look for is the number okay when they say, 754 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 2: oh so into added muscle, okay, because there's always one 755 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,400 Speaker 2: guy that has a number that's bigger than everyone else. Like, 756 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 2: there's always one and it stands out. Do you know 757 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 2: who it? Is I found one for this year. There's 758 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:49,320 Speaker 2: one player who reportedly added twenty five pounds of muscle 759 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 2: in the off season. You're never going to guess this player. 760 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 2: If I gave you three hundred guesses, you might not 761 00:35:54,680 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 2: get him. Anthony Va No, no, Chris Ready, No, he 762 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 2: just saw him. Sal Freelick, Oh, I did see that. 763 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 3: You know you know that it like in like three months. 764 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 5: It's it's almost physically impossible to ask twenty five pounds 765 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 5: without without some sort of like I know that. I'm 766 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 5: not saying that he did any I'm not. I don't 767 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 5: want to make his but like, it's almost physically impossible 768 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 5: to add twenty five pounds of muscle in one off season. 769 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:30,240 Speaker 5: I'm sorry, not twenty pounds, that twenty five pounds of fat. 770 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 5: I could do that in a second. If I like Scott. 771 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 3: Square Grouper, We're going to Square Grouper. I'm definitely putting 772 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:38,880 Speaker 3: that on. 773 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:44,720 Speaker 2: You want some fries, I think there It's not easy, 774 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:46,640 Speaker 2: but I think there are ways to pull it off 775 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,839 Speaker 2: if you have like the most insane training regiment ever. 776 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 2: Because some guys do it for movies. I've seen it 777 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 2: before where they have a dude put on a ton 778 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:54,239 Speaker 2: of way. 779 00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 3: No, yeah, they do that over six eight months. 780 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,440 Speaker 4: You can do steroids and put on twenty five pounds 781 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 4: of muscle. Probably not in three months, but you can 782 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 4: put it on. 783 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 2: Let's hit at MGM futures, Vladdie Junior. I don't even 784 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:19,879 Speaker 2: have to look at the number. I'm going over. Thirty 785 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 2: one and a half. I mean, he is a man 786 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,440 Speaker 2: on a mission and he's been durable. Thirty one and 787 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,920 Speaker 2: a half is the number. AJ. I know we've been 788 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 2: doing a lot of overs, but come. 789 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 5: And they pissed him off too, So exactly, Oh y'all, 790 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:34,799 Speaker 5: y'all think this is for real? 791 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 3: Like watch this, watch this show. 792 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:37,920 Speaker 5: Remember a couple years ago and he said that was 793 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 5: just the mattin a to the Oscar winning movie or 794 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 5: whatever it was he said. 795 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:43,440 Speaker 3: Remember whatever that quote was. 796 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 5: Yes, well this could be the year where he wins 797 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,960 Speaker 5: the Oscar and the MVP, because I have a feeling 798 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:48,440 Speaker 5: he's going to. 799 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:49,399 Speaker 3: Go off this year. 800 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:51,160 Speaker 2: I really hope he can do what he. 801 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 3: Can do, what he wants to do. 802 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,800 Speaker 4: If he thinks there's more value in hitting three twenty, 803 00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,839 Speaker 4: he can hit three twenty. He thinks there's more value 804 00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 4: in hitting fifty homers. He can hit forty five homers, 805 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,040 Speaker 4: so I'm taking over. The sky's the limit and he's 806 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:07,919 Speaker 4: going to play one hundred and sixty two games this year. 807 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:13,239 Speaker 2: I feel really good about this over I lock it in. 808 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,640 Speaker 2: I think forty plus for Vladdie if he stays on 809 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:21,719 Speaker 2: the field, forty plus for me. And I know Toronto's 810 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,719 Speaker 2: kind of had the weirdness without the ballpark's playing. I 811 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 2: don't care forty plus so book at people. If he 812 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,120 Speaker 2: stays on the field, he's going to hit with some 813 00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 2: serious power this year. And also he's one of those 814 00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,040 Speaker 2: guys where he's in the big league clubhouse as a kid. 815 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:42,520 Speaker 2: He's just not phased by pressure the same way. And 816 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,239 Speaker 2: he's a natural talent, like he's just kind of got 817 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,719 Speaker 2: it all right. Game comes easy to him. So I 818 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:52,080 Speaker 2: think he's pissed off and motivated, and with someone like him, 819 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,560 Speaker 2: it does matter because he's pretty happy, go lucky. But 820 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 2: this is the take it personal year after what just happened. 821 00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:02,080 Speaker 2: So ft fam Eric Kratz has been tweeting about and 822 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:06,479 Speaker 2: playing in the bet MGM Poker Winter Online Championships, which 823 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:10,279 Speaker 2: includes one point five million dollars in guaranteed prize Pool 824 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,880 Speaker 2: Money twenty one Trophy events. Krats, do you have a 825 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 2: quick update for us on how you've been doing? 826 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,000 Speaker 4: Last two have been met, But tonight is the night. 827 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:25,600 Speaker 4: Tonight I'm i am coming to win the exact same tournament. 828 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 4: It's a PKO Progressive no yew five hundred dollars buy in. 829 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 3: I'll be there. You should be there too. 830 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:34,839 Speaker 2: Is this the one that you won last year? 831 00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:36,239 Speaker 3: It is? 832 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,279 Speaker 4: It was a five to twenty five. I want it 833 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,960 Speaker 4: back in twenty three, the end of twenty three, right, yeah, 834 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 4: same one. It's a trophy. It's a trophy match tonight. 835 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 4: Not as nice as Aja's trophy, but I'm looking for 836 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:51,840 Speaker 4: another one of my mans.