WEBVTT - How to Fall in Love with Your Weekends EP 430

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<v Speaker 1>Hi.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Laura Vanderkamp. I'm a mother of five, an author, journalist,

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<v Speaker 2>and speaker.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm Sarah Hart Hunger, a mother of three, practicing physician,

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<v Speaker 3>writer and course creator. We are two working parents who

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<v Speaker 3>love our careers and our families.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to best of both worlds. Here we talk about

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<v Speaker 2>how real women manage work, family, and time for fun,

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<v Speaker 2>from figuring out childcare to mapping out long.

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<v Speaker 1>Term career goals.

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<v Speaker 2>We want you to get the most out of life.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to best of both worlds. This is Laura.

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<v Speaker 2>This episode is airing in late October of twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 2>We are going to be talking about creating great weekends.

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<v Speaker 2>We feel that weekends are an important part of life.

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<v Speaker 2>They can also be a complicated part of life if

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<v Speaker 2>you have little kids, and so we want to start

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<v Speaker 2>this episode with a bit of a caveat here, which

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<v Speaker 2>is that, to be totally transparent, I am so much

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<v Speaker 2>happier with my weekends now than when my kids were

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<v Speaker 2>very little, because it is actually possible to relax when

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<v Speaker 2>no one has to be watched every minute. When I

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<v Speaker 2>have older kids who can do quick babysitting so I

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<v Speaker 2>don't have to like load three kids in the car

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<v Speaker 2>to go anywhere. When they are capable of entertaining themselves

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<v Speaker 2>for big chunks of time, there's just so much more

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<v Speaker 2>opportunity to relax and not have to think through absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>every single minute and who is on top of the

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<v Speaker 2>two year old and all that good stuff. So I

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<v Speaker 2>almost feel like weekends need to be two separate topics

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<v Speaker 2>depending on whether you have little kids versus older kids.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, if you are in the little kid stage, though,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to start by saying, it probably will get

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<v Speaker 2>better in a few years and pretty soon you don't

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<v Speaker 2>have five kids over twelve years, right, right, Sarah.

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<v Speaker 3>I just did the math for myself. I'm like, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>so I had eleven years of that since my kids

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<v Speaker 3>are a six year spread.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I had.

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<v Speaker 2>A seventeen years of having a kid under age five.

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<v Speaker 2>But yes, we're out of it now.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I guess, I mean, we're going to get

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<v Speaker 3>to this later. But the only real way to recreate

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<v Speaker 3>the feeling of having not having a little kid that

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<v Speaker 3>you are following around keeping safe is to have somebody

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<v Speaker 3>else help you with that in an air tight and

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<v Speaker 3>very fully reliable way, so you're not like half there

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<v Speaker 3>and we'll talk about strategies for that later. But I

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<v Speaker 3>do feel like that's the only thing that can really

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<v Speaker 3>allow for the same kind of relaxed feeling. And even

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<v Speaker 3>even that is even still stressful because you're like, but

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<v Speaker 3>what if they get a cold and then it doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>actually happen, And I've been looking forward to my little

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<v Speaker 3>rest but all week and then I have to cancel it.

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<v Speaker 3>So I get it, like there's almost no way around it.

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<v Speaker 3>But I do agree with Laura that things do get better,

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<v Speaker 3>and I do agree with you that like when the

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<v Speaker 3>youngest one is around, it helps, although both of us,

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<v Speaker 3>I think are influenced by our current situations, which also

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<v Speaker 3>involves having maybe some older helpers around, so you know,

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<v Speaker 3>have more kids, you have.

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<v Speaker 1>To get through them.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I mean, there was definitely a point where

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<v Speaker 2>your weekends got more relaxing one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I feel like I even did wake up one

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<v Speaker 3>day and be like, huh, I used to be so

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<v Speaker 3>excited sometimes on Monday morning when the help would arrive

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<v Speaker 3>to rescue me, because the weeks truly felt easier because

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<v Speaker 3>I had this extra person around who could really absorb

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of the parenting responsibilities. That felt so twenty

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<v Speaker 3>four to seven versus the weekend, when even if my

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<v Speaker 3>husband was helping, I felt like I was very much

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<v Speaker 3>in it. And then one day it was like, oh, actually,

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<v Speaker 3>the weekends are something that I am finding to be

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<v Speaker 3>the more relaxing piece. Although Laura, I was thinking about

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<v Speaker 3>this and I'm like, one other sort of angle to

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<v Speaker 3>that is, I think the weeks have gotten harder. So

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<v Speaker 3>I mean harder in some ways and easier in some ways. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>it's true out like rocking and screaming maybe to sleep

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<v Speaker 3>and worrying about pumping during the day, but like our

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<v Speaker 3>nights are later, we're doing sports picks ups at nine o'clock,

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<v Speaker 3>and so the weeks in some ways feel more hectic,

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<v Speaker 3>and then the weekends are like ah yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But with that, we would like to note that there's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of literature out there that talks about the

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<v Speaker 2>idea that they start with is that the work week

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<v Speaker 2>is stressful and the work the weekend is relaxing. And

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like all of that needs to have an

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<v Speaker 2>asterisk by it being like if you don't have small kids,

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<v Speaker 2>or given that some of this seems to be written

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<v Speaker 2>for men who probably do have small kids. The assumption

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<v Speaker 2>is that somebody else is fully responsible for them, so

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<v Speaker 2>that you can relax on the weekend, even if you

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<v Speaker 2>are helping, to put in quotes, your spouse is the

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<v Speaker 2>one who is making sure that the two year old

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<v Speaker 2>is constantly being supervised. You just walk away, Like you

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<v Speaker 2>want to brush your teeth after dinner, you just go

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<v Speaker 2>do it. You want to go deal with something in

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<v Speaker 2>the yard, you just go do it, which which is.

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<v Speaker 1>Not really fair.

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<v Speaker 3>And so yeah, absolutely, I'm not going to like name

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<v Speaker 3>the specific planner, but there was some planner that talked

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<v Speaker 3>about like weekend rejuvenation rituals, and I had it when

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<v Speaker 3>my kids were little, and I used to be like, uh, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>this was not designed for me.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, well, and so if you believe that your

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<v Speaker 2>spouse is the one who's going to keep your toddler

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<v Speaker 2>from sticking a fork in the eye, then yeah, of

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<v Speaker 2>course you can relax.

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<v Speaker 1>You can.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it feels like I think you and I

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<v Speaker 2>have felt when we had our nannies.

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<v Speaker 1>There.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so keep in mind that many men seem to

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<v Speaker 2>have that all the time, and we can have a

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<v Speaker 2>whole separate discussion about that. But anyway, we will just

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<v Speaker 2>say that as the beginning of our weekend discussion.

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<v Speaker 3>Moving on and save that for another fun soapbox episode.

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<v Speaker 1>So, yes, the soapbox we get on occasionally.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway we want to talk about I think it was

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<v Speaker 2>a five part formula for a great weekend in this episode.

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<v Speaker 2>The first one, of course, you will not be surprised

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<v Speaker 2>to hear that both Sarah and I believe in planning

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<v Speaker 2>your weekends.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think sometimes people think.

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<v Speaker 2>Planning gets a bad reputation because they think you are

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<v Speaker 2>planning things that you don't want to do. But here's

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<v Speaker 2>the thing, you are going to do the things that

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<v Speaker 2>you have to do. My guess is that if you

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<v Speaker 2>are a responsible parent, you're going to make sure your

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<v Speaker 2>eight year old gets to a soccer tournament. You are

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<v Speaker 2>going to make sure that the laundry gets done. You

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<v Speaker 2>are going to make sure that you know if somebody

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<v Speaker 2>was supposed to practice the piano twice, they do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Planning the weekends is not about making sure those things happen.

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<v Speaker 2>It's about making sure you still have time for things

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<v Speaker 2>that you want to do, and that there are things

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<v Speaker 2>in the weekend that you are genuinely looking forward to

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<v Speaker 2>that you have thought through your downtime to make it

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<v Speaker 2>more enjoyable for you. So my strategy for that is

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<v Speaker 2>to double plan my weekends. And this is a function

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<v Speaker 2>of when I do my weekly planning, I tend to

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<v Speaker 2>do it on Thursday or Friday looking forward to the

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<v Speaker 2>next Monday to Sunday week And so as I am

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<v Speaker 2>planning on Thursday or Friday, I am lightly planning the

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<v Speaker 2>weekend that is eight to nine days in the future.

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<v Speaker 2>But because I am then planning on Thursday and Friday,

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<v Speaker 2>I can also look at the weekend that is immediately

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<v Speaker 2>coming up and tighten the plan based on has the

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<v Speaker 2>weather changed, has something else come up? Is there open

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<v Speaker 2>space we'd like to do something in. Does it look

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<v Speaker 2>like this kid isn't doing anything this weekend, Maybe I

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<v Speaker 2>should see if they could meet up with a friend.

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<v Speaker 2>But it allows you to plan a little bit more

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<v Speaker 2>tightly having planned lightly for the weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>Eight to nine days in the future.

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<v Speaker 3>So this is where I am going to confess this

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<v Speaker 3>is an episode that I need as much as one

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<v Speaker 3>that I am participating in now, because I haven't done

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<v Speaker 3>a great job with this in the past, because there

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<v Speaker 3>was a time I was very very on it. I think,

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<v Speaker 3>especially when my kids were little, and I had the

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<v Speaker 3>necessity of like very intentionally protecting part of my time

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<v Speaker 3>in order to fit things in. But I will say

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<v Speaker 3>in recent years, I have gotten more lax with this,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm in a little bit of a transitional phase.

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<v Speaker 3>In that last year, so many of our weekends were

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<v Speaker 3>anchored by sports events for Cameron because he was just

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<v Speaker 3>on a soccer team that played constantly, and now we

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<v Speaker 3>don't have that, so because he's taking a year off

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<v Speaker 3>or maybe forever off, but definitely this year off from

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<v Speaker 3>doing that. And so I just feel like I'm faced

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<v Speaker 3>with a lot of new weekend planning challenges. And the

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<v Speaker 3>school year is still fairly young as we're recording this,

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<v Speaker 3>and I don't feel like I have my planning groove

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<v Speaker 3>back on to the point where I was actually talking

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<v Speaker 3>about it with the kids in the car that like,

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<v Speaker 3>hey remember our weekends when we used to like do

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<v Speaker 3>more fun stuff. What happened to that? So this is

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<v Speaker 3>a work in progress. But I will say my planning

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<v Speaker 3>ritual is generally to do my planning on Sunday. That

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<v Speaker 3>is my like I sit there, I do what I

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<v Speaker 3>call the week on the board, you know, I fill

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<v Speaker 3>in the whole board for next week, figure out where

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<v Speaker 3>the activities are, and I do include the following weekend.

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<v Speaker 3>So I am starting to think through like do we

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<v Speaker 3>have a birthday party? Do we have something fun? But

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't done a lot of what you were just

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<v Speaker 3>talking about, and I absolutely miss it. Whether that is

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<v Speaker 3>my own stuff, and sometimes that's already in there, which

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<v Speaker 3>is great, and I put it on the board and

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<v Speaker 3>I get to think about it and it's fun or

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<v Speaker 3>stuff that involves me and the kids, but it's still

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<v Speaker 3>fun for maybe everyone, like visiting some local farm or

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<v Speaker 3>something like that that, like I know, will be have

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<v Speaker 3>some elements of pleasantness, even if, of course every moment

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<v Speaker 3>isn't going to be bliss. So yeah, my method is

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<v Speaker 3>to do it on Sunday, and that gives me enough.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I have about six days in advance to

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<v Speaker 3>plan up to the next weekend. Although I love your

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<v Speaker 3>double planning method, I just don't tend to do a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of my home type of planning during the week

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<v Speaker 3>these days, just because of the way my work calendar flows.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I think I could do what you're doing,

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<v Speaker 3>I just need to do more of it. When I

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<v Speaker 3>do that Sunday planning.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, when do you tighten up the weekend r I

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<v Speaker 2>mean because I assume that like stuff comes up in

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<v Speaker 2>the course of the week that will need to then

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<v Speaker 2>happen on the weekend.

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<v Speaker 3>Every once in a while it does. It's more like

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<v Speaker 3>stuff will just get slotted into where there's already blank space,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, I'll write it on the board and

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<v Speaker 3>talk about it with the kids. But that's much more

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<v Speaker 3>like what falls into my lap, like oh, a kid

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<v Speaker 3>gets invited to this more impromptu thing, and much less

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<v Speaker 3>of like let's all do this thing. And again, I

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<v Speaker 3>think that's what we're missing, but I don't know that

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<v Speaker 3>that has happened later. I think we could even have

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<v Speaker 3>things tentatively done by the Sunday. We can always move them,

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<v Speaker 3>but having some ideas in place would be good. I

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<v Speaker 3>do tend to plan my like pilates, so like anything

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<v Speaker 3>that needs to be reserved in advance that would be

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<v Speaker 3>like fun for me or that I enjoy. I'm still

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<v Speaker 3>doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well you know this, we're pivoting.

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<v Speaker 2>And they said, this discussion of the things you plan

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<v Speaker 2>in which you know, I like to talk about anchor

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<v Speaker 2>events for your weekend or one big adventure and one

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<v Speaker 2>little adventure.

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<v Speaker 1>But all of this is something to adjust.

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<v Speaker 2>As your kids get older, because they're not going to

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<v Speaker 2>want to do all of these things with you, right,

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<v Speaker 2>But you could start to revisit this, like, oh wait,

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<v Speaker 2>I can choose things for myself, right, And especially if

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<v Speaker 2>you have older kids who probably will be around and

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<v Speaker 2>taking care of your younger kids isn't a huge ask.

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<v Speaker 2>And especially you know, if your youngest kid is maybe

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<v Speaker 2>eight or nine, and you have a thirteen year old,

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<v Speaker 2>a fifteen year old whatever, they're not having to do

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<v Speaker 2>hands on babysitting for that person. You can start putting

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<v Speaker 2>in your own stuff even if other people don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to do things. But we'll talk about that in a

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<v Speaker 2>minute when we come back from our first ad break. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>we are back talking all things weekends. We've been talking

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<v Speaker 2>about anchor events, and I think when we have little kids,

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<v Speaker 2>we think about, Okay, we're going to put in a

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<v Speaker 2>trip to the zoo today, we are going to put

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<v Speaker 2>in a trip to the aquarium today. Now there becomes

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<v Speaker 2>a point where the kids absolutely do not want to

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<v Speaker 2>go to the zoo or the aquarium with you. This

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<v Speaker 2>sounds like the worst possible thing in the world. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>they would have a good time if they went. We

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<v Speaker 2>have certainly convinced some children to do things like this,

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<v Speaker 2>but you have to sort of keep your expectations in

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<v Speaker 2>check for that. But generally you want to ask yourself

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<v Speaker 2>going into the weekend, what do I want to remember

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<v Speaker 2>from this weekend? Is there something I'm going to do

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<v Speaker 2>this weekend that if people were saying, hey, Sarah, how

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<v Speaker 2>is your weekend, you would say on Monday morning, you know, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>this is what we did this weekend, or this is

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<v Speaker 2>what I did this weekend. So what is that thing

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<v Speaker 2>going to be? And you can plan in a small

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<v Speaker 2>number of those things over the course of the weekend

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<v Speaker 2>that you would be excited about. So, what are some

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<v Speaker 2>recent anchor events or adventures.

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<v Speaker 1>That you have had, Sarah?

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<v Speaker 3>Recent anchor events? Well, last weekend, we actually had a

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<v Speaker 3>fun work event and it was on a Friday night,

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<v Speaker 3>which is not my typical evening of going out, but

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<v Speaker 3>they threw this sizeable party and I was determined to

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<v Speaker 3>do it and I did. I actually went straight from work.

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<v Speaker 3>I brought an outfit with me so I could change

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<v Speaker 3>out of my scrubs, and that is that did turn

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<v Speaker 3>out to be like a really memorable part of the weekend.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess amusing last weekend as an example. My other

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<v Speaker 3>bink anchor was impromptu and I did not plan it.

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<v Speaker 3>But on Sunday morning, I realized that it was Taylor

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<v Speaker 3>Swift's release movie, and why would I not go to that?

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<v Speaker 3>So I just said to the kids, like, who would

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<v Speaker 3>like to come with me? And I got one taker

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<v Speaker 3>and I took her with me and we had a

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<v Speaker 3>great time. So that was an example of one where

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't do a ton of planning ahead. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>obviously I had that invitation for a while sitting there,

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<v Speaker 3>but I was able to carve out some fun things.

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<v Speaker 3>So I guess that's my best example of a recent weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, maybe that the work event was your like big

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<v Speaker 2>Adventure in the Taylor Swift movie is like your Little

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<v Speaker 2>Adventure or something like that, if we're going.

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<v Speaker 1>To look at that rubric.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I would say that the work event was at

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<v Speaker 3>a totally new venue and it was not something we

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<v Speaker 3>do all the time, So I think I get Big

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<v Speaker 3>Adventure for that one. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I was thinking back to some previous weekends I did.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh a couple WEEKDS ago, I went to a Phillies

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<v Speaker 2>game on Friday. It was actually some friends had rented

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<v Speaker 2>out a suite for a birthday party, so that was

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of fun. And then biked Valley Forage with

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<v Speaker 2>some of my kids on one of the days. Another

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<v Speaker 2>recent weekend, I went to Longwood Gardens, you know, on

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<v Speaker 2>a solo trip. Actually again because you could do your

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<v Speaker 2>own solo adventures. You don't have to get people to

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<v Speaker 2>come with you, if you don't have to not do

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<v Speaker 2>things even if nobody else wants to do anything. And

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<v Speaker 2>went out to dinner with a friend. Another weekend, I

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<v Speaker 2>went apple picking with Ruth. That required some bribery to

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<v Speaker 2>get her to do with me, but we had a

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<v Speaker 2>good time. And then I went to Chanticlare, which is

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<v Speaker 2>another botanical garden. This past weekend I sang in a concert,

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<v Speaker 2>so that was kind of a big adventure. We did

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<v Speaker 2>family brunch with all seven of us because Jasper was

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<v Speaker 2>home visiting for the weekend. So lots of little things

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<v Speaker 2>that are fun to do. But you know, those are

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<v Speaker 2>examples of things you would say you remembered from the weekend,

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<v Speaker 2>right Like I could look back and say, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what I did that weekend, And if you were

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<v Speaker 2>going to have this conversation on Monday totally.

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<v Speaker 3>And I like your thought about the time slots, and

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<v Speaker 3>I think there was a time. So the timeslots that

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<v Speaker 3>you've had done on the weekend or like Friday night,

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<v Speaker 3>Saturday day, Saturday after an internight, Sunday day, Sunday night,

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<v Speaker 3>you don't have to have something huge planned for all

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<v Speaker 3>of those. In fact, I would argue that for most

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<v Speaker 3>people that would be too much to have like five

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<v Speaker 3>big slotted things. But maybe if you have two of them,

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<v Speaker 3>like one's a big adventure, one's a little adventure, and

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of the rest is purposeful down time and

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<v Speaker 3>maybe a little bit of depending on when you do

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<v Speaker 3>your kind of household rejuvenation stuff, one block of like

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<v Speaker 3>okay at grocery shop, I get ready for the week,

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<v Speaker 3>confine it to a block so it's not taking over

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<v Speaker 3>your entire weekend. But there can be a balance there,

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<v Speaker 3>And I think taking the intimidation out of I have

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<v Speaker 3>to plan every minute or have every single one of

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<v Speaker 3>them have something big and memorable in them will take

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<v Speaker 3>the pressure off of some people who might just find

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<v Speaker 3>this to seem like a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, but it could.

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<v Speaker 2>Be little things and I think I had originally started

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<v Speaker 2>thinking of this because you know, when you have little kids,

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<v Speaker 2>you have the nap, So when you have to do

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<v Speaker 2>something before the nap, right, get out and do your

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<v Speaker 2>adventure for the day, then come on minutes. Then you

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<v Speaker 2>always want to have a little something for after the

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<v Speaker 2>nap because otherwise, when the beltdown happens, it's only four

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<v Speaker 2>o'clock and you've got hours till bedtime. So if you

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<v Speaker 2>can push that forward a little bit and have something

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<v Speaker 2>that's distracting everyone, that that can be great.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, that's the worst slot. I agree with you

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<v Speaker 3>with the post map pre dinner. Oh, especially if you

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<v Speaker 3>have a partner that's like working that day and is

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<v Speaker 3>maybe not going to come home for dinner or is

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<v Speaker 3>going to be late, Like oh my gosh, you need something.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, but you know, Friday night, even having an

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<v Speaker 2>intention for Friday night, if if that's like a fun

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<v Speaker 2>dinner with your family, you're going to make or a

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<v Speaker 2>special dessert, something to welcome the weekend in.

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<v Speaker 3>And then I would also be Nightriday.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, careful about actually thinking of if there is something

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<v Speaker 2>you would like to do on Sunday evening.

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<v Speaker 1>And now I know that Sunday evening is like a

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<v Speaker 1>work night, right.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's a school night, as we say, so

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<v Speaker 2>it won't be late, and it probably won't be elaborate.

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<v Speaker 2>But having something you are looking forward to on Sunday

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<v Speaker 2>evening can actually help with those Sunday scaries that sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>people get because instead of spending all of Sunday afternoon

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<v Speaker 2>thinking about Monday morning, you're spending Sunday afternoon.

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<v Speaker 1>Thinking about whatever fun thing you are doing on Sunday evening.

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<v Speaker 2>So that can be a way to make your weekends

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit more enjoyable too.

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<v Speaker 1>Another idea we.

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<v Speaker 2>Talked about adventures, and these can be your own adventures too,

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<v Speaker 2>But make sure you plan in some me time. So

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<v Speaker 2>what do you want to do for you this weekend,

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<v Speaker 2>and specifically, are there are times you're going to exercise,

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<v Speaker 2>like what sort of exercise do you think you are

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<v Speaker 2>going to do? Is there a hobby you want to

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<v Speaker 2>make space for? And also do you have things that

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<v Speaker 2>you are consciously choosing to do during any downtime? And

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<v Speaker 2>I think it helps to go into your weekend with

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of intention about this, because otherwise it's

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<v Speaker 2>very easy to just read headlines half heartedly. Check email,

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<v Speaker 2>scroll around on social media, put her around the house

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<v Speaker 2>half heartedly picking things up, but not really because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you kind of go to another room and then there's

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<v Speaker 2>something that needs to be put away, and then you

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<v Speaker 2>go to another room and there's something that you never

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<v Speaker 2>really relax. So you want something compelling to do during

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<v Speaker 2>your downtime, you know, good idea. Maybe too, if you

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<v Speaker 2>go to the library, do this sort of late in

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<v Speaker 2>the week so you have your new books ready for

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<v Speaker 2>the weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>You're a bookstore if you're doing that.

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<v Speaker 2>Or maybe it's that if you like to do puzzles,

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<v Speaker 2>you're sure you have one going for the weekend, or

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<v Speaker 2>whatever it is. You've laid in a good stack of magazines,

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<v Speaker 2>how about you, Sarah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, reading is a huge one. I feel like if

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<v Speaker 3>I have a fiction book that I'm into, I often

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<v Speaker 3>look forward to just having a block of time or

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to be in my bed with that book

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<v Speaker 3>and maybe like finish it or read forty percent of

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<v Speaker 3>it or something like that. And that usually happens while

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<v Speaker 3>my kids are playing video games, let's be real, that's what,

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<v Speaker 3>or doing homework depending on what people have do the

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<v Speaker 3>next day, So that tends to be one of my

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<v Speaker 3>sort of big defaults. Another thing which I'm experimenting with

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<v Speaker 3>that is new is I just got a print subscription

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<v Speaker 3>to the New York Times, so that kind of like

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<v Speaker 3>it's there. And then on Sunday mornings, if you want

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<v Speaker 3>to have a relaxed morning, you bring the print thing

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<v Speaker 3>to the table, you have your coffee, and I mean

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<v Speaker 3>for me, I mostly like read book reviews, but that's fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well then you know what books you're gonna read.

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<v Speaker 2>And again, this is something that would just not work

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<v Speaker 2>if you have an eighteen month old, right, like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you're trying to sit there and read your

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<v Speaker 2>coffee and they're screaming.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to get up and get something for them.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you know, it's just aggravating to the nth

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<v Speaker 2>degree to like want to relax and not be able to.

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<v Speaker 2>And so again we have to have different expectations, like

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<v Speaker 2>when you have little kids, your weekends are gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>planned around what you're gonna.

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<v Speaker 1>Do that's fun for them.

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<v Speaker 2>And then if you want downtime, which your course, you're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna want downtime, you need to actively plan it in

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<v Speaker 2>like you trade off with your partner.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, you get Sunday morning to do your thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I get Saturday morning to do my thing, or we

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<v Speaker 2>each take three hours on Saturday afternoon and do our

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<v Speaker 2>own thing and then we you know, even I think

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<v Speaker 2>it would be a good idea to map out who

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<v Speaker 2>is on with the little kids when you're all in

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<v Speaker 2>the house, right so that mom, because let's be real,

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to be mom who would be the default

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<v Speaker 2>in most cases, can in fact relax at the house

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<v Speaker 2>because she knows that somebody is actively on with the

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<v Speaker 2>kid and that's got to be mapped out. But you

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<v Speaker 2>don't if they are not little kids anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>And I would put on huge encouragement to if you

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<v Speaker 3>do map something like this out, try to leave. And

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<v Speaker 3>I know you heard me talk about lying in my

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<v Speaker 3>bed and reading books, and that's what you really want

0:20:07.480 --> 0:20:09.200
<v Speaker 3>to do. You're tired, and you're like, but you can't.

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<v Speaker 3>It's very unlike you're gonna hear screams, You're gonna hear fights,

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<v Speaker 3>Like it's gonna be better. See what you can think

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<v Speaker 3>of that would be relaxing and rejuvenating if that's what

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<v Speaker 3>you're looking for that is not in your home. One

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<v Speaker 3>thing to think about would be an exercise class that

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<v Speaker 3>does not feel like hard work or torture like a

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<v Speaker 3>yin yoga class, for example, it's like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 3>you're gonna get to be quiet and lay on pillows

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<v Speaker 3>and you'll be left alone, or going to Starbucks for

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<v Speaker 3>an hour and getting your favorite drink and reading a

0:20:37.560 --> 0:20:40.840
<v Speaker 3>book or something like that, because if you have had

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<v Speaker 3>this discussion of a swap, you want to make the

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<v Speaker 3>most of those hours and it's just going to probably

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<v Speaker 3>be difficult if you're staying in your own home. If

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<v Speaker 3>they're home now, if they.

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<v Speaker 2>Left, great, Yeah, then you get to do what you

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<v Speaker 2>want at home, which is even better, Sarah. You like

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<v Speaker 2>to do some baking projects sometimes, right, Like this is

0:20:57.280 --> 0:20:58.680
<v Speaker 2>a thing that happens on weekends.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this is a fit really common thing on and

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<v Speaker 3>this you know when your kids are like not eighteen months,

0:21:04.040 --> 0:21:07.040
<v Speaker 3>but maybe like four or five and older, you know,

0:21:07.040 --> 0:21:10.360
<v Speaker 3>in that age group where you know, this could potentially

0:21:10.400 --> 0:21:13.560
<v Speaker 3>be something that you do as a something to do

0:21:13.600 --> 0:21:15.520
<v Speaker 3>after nap time kind of a thing that also is

0:21:15.560 --> 0:21:18.000
<v Speaker 3>somewhat productive because hey, you'll have those pumpkin muffins for

0:21:18.040 --> 0:21:20.760
<v Speaker 3>the morning or whatever you decide to put together. But

0:21:21.119 --> 0:21:22.800
<v Speaker 3>I like it even more when I can do it

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<v Speaker 3>by myself.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, it's relaxing. Cooking by yourself can be relaxing.

0:21:28.160 --> 0:21:30.160
<v Speaker 2>Cooking with people underfoot not so much.

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<v Speaker 1>With this.

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<v Speaker 2>One idea is that you could choose things that are

0:21:35.280 --> 0:21:38.080
<v Speaker 2>that could be chores, like cooking or baking, but you

0:21:38.080 --> 0:21:40.159
<v Speaker 2>can do them for fun. However, most of us do

0:21:40.240 --> 0:21:42.239
<v Speaker 2>have some sort of chores we have to do on

0:21:42.280 --> 0:21:45.840
<v Speaker 2>the weekend, So with that, you might want to set

0:21:45.840 --> 0:21:49.280
<v Speaker 2>a small window for doing those things so they are

0:21:49.280 --> 0:21:52.360
<v Speaker 2>not always possibilities. Right, So we're a big fan of

0:21:52.440 --> 0:21:56.359
<v Speaker 2>like outsourcing housekeeping, getting groceries delivered or anything like that.

0:21:56.480 --> 0:21:59.280
<v Speaker 2>But if you are doing those things, maybe you say, okay,

0:21:59.520 --> 0:22:02.960
<v Speaker 2>we clean house from ten thirty to noon on Saturday morning.

0:22:03.320 --> 0:22:06.640
<v Speaker 2>Everyone participates outside of that, we are not cleaning the house,

0:22:07.000 --> 0:22:09.200
<v Speaker 2>and you will probably get the things that most had

0:22:09.200 --> 0:22:12.960
<v Speaker 2>to happen done during that time. And then you know,

0:22:13.000 --> 0:22:15.199
<v Speaker 2>if you're finding yourself looking at a dirty floor on

0:22:15.200 --> 0:22:17.120
<v Speaker 2>Friday night, you're not spending all of Friday night cleaning

0:22:17.119 --> 0:22:19.040
<v Speaker 2>out because you know there's a time for that Saturday

0:22:19.080 --> 0:22:21.400
<v Speaker 2>morning and most of the things will get done.

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<v Speaker 3>Then, Yeah, compartmentalizing sounds awesome. I definitely think if you're

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<v Speaker 3>looking for kid participation in any chores and your kids

0:22:28.359 --> 0:22:31.679
<v Speaker 3>are older again, then that eighteen month window, having a

0:22:31.720 --> 0:22:33.960
<v Speaker 3>deal that they have to pick up XYZ before they

0:22:33.960 --> 0:22:36.960
<v Speaker 3>turn on their game of choice can be incredibly effective.

0:22:37.320 --> 0:22:40.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and with that, we often have these projects we

0:22:40.880 --> 0:22:42.800
<v Speaker 2>want to get done on the weekend. We're like, oh, well,

0:22:43.160 --> 0:22:45.000
<v Speaker 2>this is the time I'm going to clean out the garage,

0:22:45.080 --> 0:22:47.680
<v Speaker 2>this is the time that I'm going to organize everyone's

0:22:47.720 --> 0:22:50.680
<v Speaker 2>winter clothes or whatever it is. And that's fine because again,

0:22:50.760 --> 0:22:52.200
<v Speaker 2>you probably are going to do it on the weekend

0:22:52.240 --> 0:22:55.040
<v Speaker 2>and not during the week. However, you want to make

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<v Speaker 2>sure that you only bite off the amount you can

0:22:57.760 --> 0:23:01.040
<v Speaker 2>chew on a weekend and the amount that's not going

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<v Speaker 2>to make you feel stressed and like you are a

0:23:04.000 --> 0:23:07.000
<v Speaker 2>failure when you don't finish it. So I would suggest

0:23:07.200 --> 0:23:10.159
<v Speaker 2>making yourself a very short weekend to do list, like

0:23:10.200 --> 0:23:12.560
<v Speaker 2>the things that absolutely have to happen, and you can

0:23:12.600 --> 0:23:15.639
<v Speaker 2>do one thing beyond maybe two if it's a low

0:23:15.720 --> 0:23:19.400
<v Speaker 2>key weekend, but one or two things beyond basic life maintenance.

0:23:19.400 --> 0:23:20.879
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, you know you're gonna do the laundry and

0:23:20.920 --> 0:23:24.120
<v Speaker 2>grocery shopping. But if there is one or two other

0:23:24.160 --> 0:23:26.720
<v Speaker 2>small things you are going to do. Set that as

0:23:26.720 --> 0:23:28.639
<v Speaker 2>a goal for yourself, and then only do that, and

0:23:28.640 --> 0:23:30.960
<v Speaker 2>then you'll accomplish it and you'll feel good. So a

0:23:31.000 --> 0:23:33.480
<v Speaker 2>previous weekend, I decided I was going to clean off

0:23:33.480 --> 0:23:36.040
<v Speaker 2>the shelves in the upstairs movie room. Right, they'd gotten

0:23:36.080 --> 0:23:37.919
<v Speaker 2>really cluttered over the course of the past year with

0:23:37.960 --> 0:23:39.040
<v Speaker 2>nobody putting things away.

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<v Speaker 1>So I went and did that. They look better. That

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<v Speaker 1>was my thing for the weekend. Nothing else.

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<v Speaker 3>I did that with my book decluttering, like you know,

0:23:46.520 --> 0:23:50.439
<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to organize and declutter key areas, and putting

0:23:50.440 --> 0:23:52.440
<v Speaker 3>an entire room on my list for the Sunday would

0:23:52.440 --> 0:23:54.040
<v Speaker 3>have made me do absolutely nothing. But I'm like, oh,

0:23:54.080 --> 0:23:55.760
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to do is go to my bookshelf and

0:23:55.800 --> 0:23:57.280
<v Speaker 3>figure out what books I'm ready to donate.

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<v Speaker 1>And I did it there and they're diaty.

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<v Speaker 3>Go, they're in the garage, they're out of the house,

0:24:01.359 --> 0:24:02.040
<v Speaker 3>so we're good.

0:24:02.200 --> 0:24:02.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:24:02.400 --> 0:24:03.800
<v Speaker 2>And if you have a big project, you're like, we

0:24:03.840 --> 0:24:06.639
<v Speaker 2>have to clean out the garage. Spread it over like

0:24:06.720 --> 0:24:10.280
<v Speaker 2>six weekends, right and look at it. Shine a specifical task. Yes,

0:24:10.280 --> 0:24:13.480
<v Speaker 2>this idea shelf is this weekend, that shelf is next weekend.

0:24:13.480 --> 0:24:15.199
<v Speaker 2>This pile on the floor is the next weekend, and

0:24:15.200 --> 0:24:17.200
<v Speaker 2>you will get through it and you will not feel overwhelmed.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna take one more quick ad break and then

0:24:19.000 --> 0:24:34.400
<v Speaker 2>we will be back with more on making good weekends. Well,

0:24:34.400 --> 0:24:39.080
<v Speaker 2>we are back talking all things weekends, how to create enjoyable,

0:24:39.200 --> 0:24:42.880
<v Speaker 2>relaxing weekends, with the caveat, of course, that our youngest

0:24:43.000 --> 0:24:45.159
<v Speaker 2>children are now at the age where they don't have

0:24:45.200 --> 0:24:48.520
<v Speaker 2>to be constantly supervised. So if you have young kids,

0:24:48.760 --> 0:24:51.840
<v Speaker 2>we understand that weekends are not automatically relaxing, and there

0:24:51.840 --> 0:24:55.119
<v Speaker 2>are certain strategies you can do consciously trading off with

0:24:55.200 --> 0:24:57.400
<v Speaker 2>your partner or hiring childcare for a few hours. We'll

0:24:57.440 --> 0:25:01.200
<v Speaker 2>discuss that more in a little bit. But you can

0:25:01.280 --> 0:25:05.720
<v Speaker 2>also have the mindset that I should enjoy my weekends

0:25:05.760 --> 0:25:09.119
<v Speaker 2>and this goes a long way toward making weekends more enjoyable.

0:25:10.400 --> 0:25:13.520
<v Speaker 2>Pursuing pleasure and consciously pursuing pleasure is really a two

0:25:13.520 --> 0:25:15.680
<v Speaker 2>step process. I mean one, you want to solve any

0:25:15.720 --> 0:25:18.679
<v Speaker 2>pain points. Is there anything you can do that you

0:25:18.720 --> 0:25:22.560
<v Speaker 2>find on weekends very painful that you can solve? So?

0:25:22.840 --> 0:25:25.520
<v Speaker 2>Are you driving all day to kids sporting events? According

0:25:25.560 --> 0:25:27.720
<v Speaker 2>to your plan? That you're looking at, Well, do you

0:25:27.800 --> 0:25:30.000
<v Speaker 2>need to do that? Can you spread that around with

0:25:30.080 --> 0:25:32.520
<v Speaker 2>other people? Can you skip one of them?

0:25:32.560 --> 0:25:32.919
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there something that could happen or is there something

0:25:34.640 --> 0:25:36.400
<v Speaker 2>fun you can do there? Like is there a cool

0:25:36.600 --> 0:25:38.880
<v Speaker 2>bookstore that's nearby the soccer place that you could spend

0:25:38.880 --> 0:25:40.480
<v Speaker 2>your time there or go for a run while you're

0:25:40.480 --> 0:25:43.080
<v Speaker 2>there instead of just feeling like you've lost your entire

0:25:43.200 --> 0:25:43.840
<v Speaker 2>weekend to this.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I definitely think this is where trade offs come

0:25:46.960 --> 0:25:50.200
<v Speaker 3>in as well. If you know that there are a

0:25:50.240 --> 0:25:53.919
<v Speaker 3>couple of kid birthday parties and two parents, then you

0:25:54.000 --> 0:25:55.919
<v Speaker 3>are not maybe two of them is going to make

0:25:55.920 --> 0:25:57.359
<v Speaker 3>the weekend feel like too much, but one of them

0:25:57.400 --> 0:26:00.560
<v Speaker 3>would be okay. Then embrace the socialista, so the one

0:26:00.600 --> 0:26:02.800
<v Speaker 3>you choose to go to, and then figure out how

0:26:02.840 --> 0:26:05.160
<v Speaker 3>you can swap off for the other one.

0:26:05.840 --> 0:26:06.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, maybe there's one that, like you would be

0:26:08.680 --> 0:26:11.359
<v Speaker 2>particularly more excited about doing than you know your spouse

0:26:12.160 --> 0:26:13.399
<v Speaker 2>doesn't hate chuck E cheese.

0:26:13.400 --> 0:26:15.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, whatever you can work out between the

0:26:15.119 --> 0:26:15.640
<v Speaker 1>two of you.

0:26:16.600 --> 0:26:19.919
<v Speaker 2>And you can also you solve the pain points and

0:26:19.960 --> 0:26:22.280
<v Speaker 2>then also come up with little ways you can up

0:26:22.320 --> 0:26:23.320
<v Speaker 2>the pleasure factor.

0:26:23.400 --> 0:26:25.480
<v Speaker 1>Like, what are you eating on the weekend? Have you

0:26:25.520 --> 0:26:26.800
<v Speaker 1>thought through your meals?

0:26:26.880 --> 0:26:29.040
<v Speaker 2>Like are there good things to eat in your house

0:26:29.080 --> 0:26:31.800
<v Speaker 2>so you're excited about like your Saturday morning breakfast?

0:26:31.960 --> 0:26:34.800
<v Speaker 1>Right, you're not just you know, eating cold cereal again?

0:26:34.880 --> 0:26:38.720
<v Speaker 2>Or something we talked about having good things to read,

0:26:39.200 --> 0:26:42.200
<v Speaker 2>Like if it's pretty outside, are you going to get

0:26:42.200 --> 0:26:44.719
<v Speaker 2>outside at some point? Are you listening to fun music

0:26:44.800 --> 0:26:47.000
<v Speaker 2>while you're in the car, Like do you have something

0:26:47.000 --> 0:26:48.480
<v Speaker 2>good to listen to? You know what you want to

0:26:48.520 --> 0:26:50.920
<v Speaker 2>listen to? Like, think about ways you can push a

0:26:51.000 --> 0:26:54.160
<v Speaker 2>little bit more pleasure into the crevices of your weekend.

0:26:54.640 --> 0:26:56.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, even a favorite show that you're going to watch,

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<v Speaker 3>or I don't know, if you have to take a

0:26:59.040 --> 0:27:01.200
<v Speaker 3>kid to Target to get thing? Can you spend ten

0:27:01.200 --> 0:27:03.600
<v Speaker 3>minutes in this section of your choice, like maybe looking

0:27:03.680 --> 0:27:06.879
<v Speaker 3>at all the stationary and planners for next year? You

0:27:06.920 --> 0:27:08.440
<v Speaker 3>know things like.

0:27:08.400 --> 0:27:11.520
<v Speaker 1>That could be done. Sounds fun? Yeah?

0:27:11.600 --> 0:27:13.440
<v Speaker 2>No, I mean when you do all these things, you

0:27:13.480 --> 0:27:17.200
<v Speaker 2>know you plan ahead when you consider the anchor advents

0:27:17.280 --> 0:27:19.159
<v Speaker 2>or adventures you want to be talking about that you

0:27:19.240 --> 0:27:26.080
<v Speaker 2>remember on Monday morning when you going through my list here,

0:27:26.240 --> 0:27:28.439
<v Speaker 2>Oh my goodness. When you plan in me time, you

0:27:28.440 --> 0:27:31.399
<v Speaker 2>think through your downtime, you compress your chores and errands,

0:27:31.400 --> 0:27:33.800
<v Speaker 2>and then you consciously pursue pleasure. You can have really

0:27:33.800 --> 0:27:38.119
<v Speaker 2>awesome weekends, and we want that for everyone listening to this.

0:27:39.080 --> 0:27:42.160
<v Speaker 2>So today's question is related to this, though, which is

0:27:42.200 --> 0:27:45.199
<v Speaker 2>that somebody wrote in that I work full time, and

0:27:45.520 --> 0:27:48.840
<v Speaker 2>not coincidentally, we also have full time childcare. Is it

0:27:48.880 --> 0:27:51.199
<v Speaker 2>okay to hire a babysitter for a few hours on

0:27:51.240 --> 0:27:52.840
<v Speaker 2>the weekend. I know it might be okay for the

0:27:52.840 --> 0:27:56.960
<v Speaker 2>occasional date night, but what about like regularly during the day.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel guilty about this, Sarah, what do you think?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh, Well, I love your answer, but I

0:28:02.560 --> 0:28:04.040
<v Speaker 3>will just tell you that I used to do this

0:28:04.520 --> 0:28:07.000
<v Speaker 3>I don't need to do it anymore again, because I'm

0:28:07.040 --> 0:28:08.560
<v Speaker 3>at a different stage. But there was a time in

0:28:08.600 --> 0:28:11.400
<v Speaker 3>my life when I fairly regularly would get someone from

0:28:11.440 --> 0:28:13.199
<v Speaker 3>like I don't know, ten to two or something like

0:28:13.240 --> 0:28:16.520
<v Speaker 3>that on a Saturday, especially if Josh was on call,

0:28:16.600 --> 0:28:18.159
<v Speaker 3>so I knew there was like really no switching off

0:28:18.200 --> 0:28:20.639
<v Speaker 3>to be had, And oh my gosh, the difference that

0:28:20.680 --> 0:28:23.359
<v Speaker 3>those few hours made in my happiness was immense. The

0:28:23.400 --> 0:28:25.720
<v Speaker 3>difference that those hours made in my children's life was

0:28:25.800 --> 0:28:28.200
<v Speaker 3>zero or maybe even positive because they got a break

0:28:28.200 --> 0:28:30.440
<v Speaker 3>from me, they had fun with their babysitter, they got

0:28:30.480 --> 0:28:33.520
<v Speaker 3>to do something else, and the idea looking back on

0:28:33.640 --> 0:28:37.000
<v Speaker 3>having like really any in trepidation about that. It seems

0:28:37.119 --> 0:28:41.320
<v Speaker 3>so crazy because also, like doing the math, Laura's teaches

0:28:41.400 --> 0:28:44.440
<v Speaker 3>us how many hours we have, and four hours out

0:28:44.440 --> 0:28:46.880
<v Speaker 3>of your whole weekend is not even that significant, but

0:28:46.880 --> 0:28:48.960
<v Speaker 3>it's gonna feel significant if it's a difference between you

0:28:49.040 --> 0:28:52.080
<v Speaker 3>having no time for yourself and you having time too.

0:28:52.160 --> 0:28:54.280
<v Speaker 3>I used to go to it's not even open anymore,

0:28:54.320 --> 0:28:55.800
<v Speaker 3>but I used to go to a fly bar at

0:28:55.840 --> 0:28:58.360
<v Speaker 3>bar class. I felt all fancy. That was an example

0:28:58.360 --> 0:29:00.320
<v Speaker 3>of a fitness class that wasn't torture. So it was like,

0:29:00.360 --> 0:29:02.440
<v Speaker 3>I'm getting out of the house, I'm doing something for myself,

0:29:02.600 --> 0:29:05.080
<v Speaker 3>and it's also not even that hard, so it's just fun.

0:29:05.920 --> 0:29:06.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:29:06.320 --> 0:29:09.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, obviously, if you're not seeing your kid at.

0:29:09.840 --> 0:29:11.560
<v Speaker 1>All during the week, I don't know.

0:29:11.560 --> 0:29:13.520
<v Speaker 2>If you're one of those people who is in fact

0:29:14.440 --> 0:29:18.120
<v Speaker 2>gone constantly and all that, then maybe you probably should

0:29:18.120 --> 0:29:20.240
<v Speaker 2>focus your weekends on spend family time. But I'm guessing

0:29:20.360 --> 0:29:23.840
<v Speaker 2>very few people listening to this fall into that category,

0:29:24.440 --> 0:29:26.520
<v Speaker 2>and hiring a few hours sitter for a few hours

0:29:26.560 --> 0:29:28.440
<v Speaker 2>on a weekend can be life changing. I mean, obviously,

0:29:28.440 --> 0:29:31.120
<v Speaker 2>trading off with your spouse is a very straightforward thing

0:29:31.120 --> 0:29:34.360
<v Speaker 2>to do and cost nothing, and so most people can

0:29:34.400 --> 0:29:37.160
<v Speaker 2>avail themselves of that immediately in order to.

0:29:37.240 --> 0:29:38.560
<v Speaker 1>Get more meat time.

0:29:38.840 --> 0:29:42.640
<v Speaker 2>Now, if that doesn't work for whatever reason, or if

0:29:42.680 --> 0:29:45.080
<v Speaker 2>you too want to spend some time together which is

0:29:45.120 --> 0:29:48.840
<v Speaker 2>also allowed, which is also allowed, then this is where

0:29:49.240 --> 0:29:51.960
<v Speaker 2>bringing in somebody else can be helpful. And I would

0:29:51.960 --> 0:29:54.000
<v Speaker 2>point out that many people who live near grandparents, and

0:29:54.200 --> 0:29:56.240
<v Speaker 2>if the grandparents want to be helpful like and drop

0:29:56.280 --> 0:29:58.280
<v Speaker 2>the kids off at Grandma's for a few hours and

0:29:58.320 --> 0:30:01.200
<v Speaker 2>get that time together, if you don't have that available, again,

0:30:01.640 --> 0:30:05.320
<v Speaker 2>the paid help is just approximating either your spouse, your

0:30:05.360 --> 0:30:09.160
<v Speaker 2>extended family, or anything like that. If those things are

0:30:09.400 --> 0:30:13.120
<v Speaker 2>not available to you, So yeah, go for it. I mean,

0:30:13.160 --> 0:30:15.720
<v Speaker 2>you might want to think about when would be most strategic.

0:30:15.760 --> 0:30:20.080
<v Speaker 2>I mean, obviously, sometimes sitters like to have enough hours

0:30:20.200 --> 0:30:22.480
<v Speaker 2>to make it worth their while, So maybe you might

0:30:22.520 --> 0:30:25.880
<v Speaker 2>do something like three o'clock to nine o'clock on Saturday,

0:30:26.000 --> 0:30:30.520
<v Speaker 2>right so you would miss the post nap meltdown, they'd

0:30:30.560 --> 0:30:32.040
<v Speaker 2>get fresh blood in there for that.

0:30:33.120 --> 0:30:33.760
<v Speaker 1>You could go.

0:30:33.800 --> 0:30:35.720
<v Speaker 2>Work out, or you guys each could go see a

0:30:35.760 --> 0:30:37.440
<v Speaker 2>friend and then you meet up for dinner or a

0:30:37.480 --> 0:30:40.480
<v Speaker 2>movie afterwards and have your Saturday night date. And that

0:30:40.480 --> 0:30:42.240
<v Speaker 2>would be a great way to feel like you really

0:30:42.280 --> 0:30:46.120
<v Speaker 2>got a weekend and that Saturday was fun as opposed

0:30:46.160 --> 0:30:49.480
<v Speaker 2>to being all the work of caring for children, because again,

0:30:49.480 --> 0:30:51.520
<v Speaker 2>I mean it's fun. Like, we love babies, we have

0:30:51.640 --> 0:30:53.320
<v Speaker 2>a ton of them, but they are a lot of work,

0:30:53.400 --> 0:30:55.520
<v Speaker 2>and especially if you are the person who's primarily caring

0:30:55.560 --> 0:30:57.600
<v Speaker 2>for them, they are a lot of work and you

0:30:57.640 --> 0:31:00.920
<v Speaker 2>wind up with very little time to relax, and people

0:31:00.960 --> 0:31:02.040
<v Speaker 2>need time to relax.

0:31:02.080 --> 0:31:04.640
<v Speaker 1>That's one of the things that make people feel most stressed.

0:31:04.800 --> 0:31:07.720
<v Speaker 3>Totally agree, So we give you a full permission slip signed.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly, exactly, all right, So love of the week

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<v Speaker 2>mine is I'm going to say kids who are old

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<v Speaker 2>enough to babysit, because it so makes the logistics easier.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm pondering, I mean, we just need a lot more

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<v Speaker 2>help if we didn't have that now. But the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that you can like leave most of my kids by

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<v Speaker 2>themselves for a bit, and two of them who are

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<v Speaker 2>home right now can be left in charge of others.

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<v Speaker 2>It makes everything so much easier to figure out, which

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate it totally.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, mine is something simple, But I don't want to

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<v Speaker 3>take this for granted. I love reservations like the fact

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<v Speaker 3>that you can make sure to even book online, not

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<v Speaker 3>even have to talk to anyone, and then know that

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<v Speaker 3>you're going to have like a table big enough for

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<v Speaker 3>your family at a restaurant at a time you guys

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<v Speaker 3>want to eat. That is so nice because the alternative

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<v Speaker 3>is so frustrating, and so yeah, I embrace it, good

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<v Speaker 3>old reservation and I guess we'll add to that apps

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<v Speaker 3>like resi or open Table.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>I know they're not always the best thing for restaurants

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<v Speaker 3>because sometimes they have to give a portion of whatever,

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<v Speaker 3>But if you haven't made a reservation and it's Saturday

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<v Speaker 3>night and you have five people or more in your

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<v Speaker 3>family so it's like harder to find a table, you

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<v Speaker 3>can look to see who has a table available and

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<v Speaker 3>actually book it on your phone while you're driving around,

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<v Speaker 3>saving yourself the heartache. So I have both of those

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<v Speaker 3>apps on my phone. I use them, and I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, technology is great for having a sufficient information to

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<v Speaker 2>make decisions.

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<v Speaker 1>Which is very efficient. Love it all right? Well, this

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<v Speaker 1>has been best of both worlds.

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<v Speaker 2>We've been talking about how to fall in love with

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<v Speaker 2>your weekends again. We will be back next week with

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<v Speaker 2>more on making work and life fit together.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks for listening. You can find me Sarah at the

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<v Speaker 3>shoebox dot com or at the Underscore Shoebox on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>And you can find me Laura at Laura vandercam dot com.

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<v Speaker 3>This has been the best of both worlds podcasts.

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<v Speaker 1>Please join us next time for more.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm making work and life work together.