1 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: Hi. 2 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 2: I'm Laura Vanderkamp. I'm a mother of five, an author, journalist, 3 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 2: and speaker. 4 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 3: And I'm Sarah Hart Hunger, a mother of three, practicing physician, 5 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 3: writer and course creator. We are two working parents who 6 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 3: love our careers and our families. 7 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 2: Welcome to best of both worlds. Here we talk about 8 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 2: how real women manage work, family, and time for fun, 9 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 2: from figuring out childcare to mapping out long. 10 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 1: Term career goals. 11 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 2: We want you to get the most out of life. 12 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:43,520 Speaker 1: Welcome to best of both worlds. This is Laura. 13 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 2: This episode is airing in late October of twenty twenty five. 14 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 2: We are going to be talking about creating great weekends. 15 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:55,639 Speaker 2: We feel that weekends are an important part of life. 16 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 2: They can also be a complicated part of life if 17 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 2: you have little kids, and so we want to start 18 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 2: this episode with a bit of a caveat here, which 19 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 2: is that, to be totally transparent, I am so much 20 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 2: happier with my weekends now than when my kids were 21 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 2: very little, because it is actually possible to relax when 22 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 2: no one has to be watched every minute. When I 23 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 2: have older kids who can do quick babysitting so I 24 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 2: don't have to like load three kids in the car 25 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 2: to go anywhere. When they are capable of entertaining themselves 26 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 2: for big chunks of time, there's just so much more 27 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 2: opportunity to relax and not have to think through absolutely 28 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 2: every single minute and who is on top of the 29 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 2: two year old and all that good stuff. So I 30 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 2: almost feel like weekends need to be two separate topics 31 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 2: depending on whether you have little kids versus older kids. 32 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 2: I mean, if you are in the little kid stage, though, 33 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 2: I want to start by saying, it probably will get 34 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 2: better in a few years and pretty soon you don't 35 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 2: have five kids over twelve years, right, right, Sarah. 36 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 3: I just did the math for myself. I'm like, okay, 37 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 3: so I had eleven years of that since my kids 38 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 3: are a six year spread. 39 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I had. 40 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 2: A seventeen years of having a kid under age five. 41 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 2: But yes, we're out of it now. 42 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I guess, I mean, we're going to get 43 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 3: to this later. But the only real way to recreate 44 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 3: the feeling of having not having a little kid that 45 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 3: you are following around keeping safe is to have somebody 46 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 3: else help you with that in an air tight and 47 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,119 Speaker 3: very fully reliable way, so you're not like half there 48 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 3: and we'll talk about strategies for that later. But I 49 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 3: do feel like that's the only thing that can really 50 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 3: allow for the same kind of relaxed feeling. And even 51 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 3: even that is even still stressful because you're like, but 52 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 3: what if they get a cold and then it doesn't 53 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:49,119 Speaker 3: actually happen, And I've been looking forward to my little 54 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 3: rest but all week and then I have to cancel it. 55 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 3: So I get it, like there's almost no way around it. 56 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 3: But I do agree with Laura that things do get better, 57 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 3: and I do agree with you that like when the 58 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 3: youngest one is around, it helps, although both of us, 59 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 3: I think are influenced by our current situations, which also 60 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 3: involves having maybe some older helpers around, so you know, 61 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 3: have more kids, you have. 62 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: To get through them. 63 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:16,639 Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, there was definitely a point where 64 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 2: your weekends got more relaxing one hundred percent. 65 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 3: Like I feel like I even did wake up one 66 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 3: day and be like, huh, I used to be so 67 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 3: excited sometimes on Monday morning when the help would arrive 68 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 3: to rescue me, because the weeks truly felt easier because 69 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 3: I had this extra person around who could really absorb 70 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 3: a lot of the parenting responsibilities. That felt so twenty 71 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 3: four to seven versus the weekend, when even if my 72 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 3: husband was helping, I felt like I was very much 73 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 3: in it. And then one day it was like, oh, actually, 74 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 3: the weekends are something that I am finding to be 75 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,119 Speaker 3: the more relaxing piece. Although Laura, I was thinking about 76 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 3: this and I'm like, one other sort of angle to 77 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 3: that is, I think the weeks have gotten harder. So 78 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 3: I mean harder in some ways and easier in some ways. Yes, 79 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 3: it's true out like rocking and screaming maybe to sleep 80 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 3: and worrying about pumping during the day, but like our 81 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 3: nights are later, we're doing sports picks ups at nine o'clock, 82 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 3: and so the weeks in some ways feel more hectic, 83 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 3: and then the weekends are like ah yeah. 84 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 2: But with that, we would like to note that there's 85 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,919 Speaker 2: a lot of literature out there that talks about the 86 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 2: idea that they start with is that the work week 87 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 2: is stressful and the work the weekend is relaxing. And 88 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 2: I feel like all of that needs to have an 89 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 2: asterisk by it being like if you don't have small kids, 90 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 2: or given that some of this seems to be written 91 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 2: for men who probably do have small kids. The assumption 92 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 2: is that somebody else is fully responsible for them, so 93 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 2: that you can relax on the weekend, even if you 94 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 2: are helping, to put in quotes, your spouse is the 95 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 2: one who is making sure that the two year old 96 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 2: is constantly being supervised. You just walk away, Like you 97 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 2: want to brush your teeth after dinner, you just go 98 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 2: do it. You want to go deal with something in 99 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 2: the yard, you just go do it, which which is. 100 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 1: Not really fair. 101 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:06,039 Speaker 3: And so yeah, absolutely, I'm not going to like name 102 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 3: the specific planner, but there was some planner that talked 103 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 3: about like weekend rejuvenation rituals, and I had it when 104 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 3: my kids were little, and I used to be like, uh, yeah, yeah, 105 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 3: this was not designed for me. 106 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 2: So yeah, well, and so if you believe that your 107 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 2: spouse is the one who's going to keep your toddler 108 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 2: from sticking a fork in the eye, then yeah, of 109 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 2: course you can relax. 110 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: You can. 111 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 2: You know, it feels like I think you and I 112 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 2: have felt when we had our nannies. 113 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: There. 114 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, so keep in mind that many men seem to 115 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 2: have that all the time, and we can have a 116 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 2: whole separate discussion about that. But anyway, we will just 117 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 2: say that as the beginning of our weekend discussion. 118 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 3: Moving on and save that for another fun soapbox episode. 119 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 1: So, yes, the soapbox we get on occasionally. 120 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 2: Anyway we want to talk about I think it was 121 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 2: a five part formula for a great weekend in this episode. 122 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 2: The first one, of course, you will not be surprised 123 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 2: to hear that both Sarah and I believe in planning 124 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 2: your weekends. 125 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: And I think sometimes people think. 126 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 2: Planning gets a bad reputation because they think you are 127 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 2: planning things that you don't want to do. But here's 128 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 2: the thing, you are going to do the things that 129 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 2: you have to do. My guess is that if you 130 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 2: are a responsible parent, you're going to make sure your 131 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 2: eight year old gets to a soccer tournament. You are 132 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 2: going to make sure that the laundry gets done. You 133 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 2: are going to make sure that you know if somebody 134 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 2: was supposed to practice the piano twice, they do it. 135 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 2: Planning the weekends is not about making sure those things happen. 136 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 2: It's about making sure you still have time for things 137 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 2: that you want to do, and that there are things 138 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 2: in the weekend that you are genuinely looking forward to 139 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 2: that you have thought through your downtime to make it 140 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 2: more enjoyable for you. So my strategy for that is 141 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 2: to double plan my weekends. And this is a function 142 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 2: of when I do my weekly planning, I tend to 143 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:57,919 Speaker 2: do it on Thursday or Friday looking forward to the 144 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 2: next Monday to Sunday week And so as I am 145 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 2: planning on Thursday or Friday, I am lightly planning the 146 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 2: weekend that is eight to nine days in the future. 147 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 2: But because I am then planning on Thursday and Friday, 148 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 2: I can also look at the weekend that is immediately 149 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 2: coming up and tighten the plan based on has the 150 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 2: weather changed, has something else come up? Is there open 151 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 2: space we'd like to do something in. Does it look 152 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 2: like this kid isn't doing anything this weekend, Maybe I 153 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 2: should see if they could meet up with a friend. 154 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 2: But it allows you to plan a little bit more 155 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 2: tightly having planned lightly for the weekend. 156 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: Eight to nine days in the future. 157 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 3: So this is where I am going to confess this 158 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 3: is an episode that I need as much as one 159 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 3: that I am participating in now, because I haven't done 160 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 3: a great job with this in the past, because there 161 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 3: was a time I was very very on it. I think, 162 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 3: especially when my kids were little, and I had the 163 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 3: necessity of like very intentionally protecting part of my time 164 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 3: in order to fit things in. But I will say 165 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 3: in recent years, I have gotten more lax with this, 166 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 3: and I'm in a little bit of a transitional phase. 167 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 3: In that last year, so many of our weekends were 168 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 3: anchored by sports events for Cameron because he was just 169 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 3: on a soccer team that played constantly, and now we 170 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 3: don't have that, so because he's taking a year off 171 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 3: or maybe forever off, but definitely this year off from 172 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 3: doing that. And so I just feel like I'm faced 173 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 3: with a lot of new weekend planning challenges. And the 174 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 3: school year is still fairly young as we're recording this, 175 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 3: and I don't feel like I have my planning groove 176 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 3: back on to the point where I was actually talking 177 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 3: about it with the kids in the car that like, 178 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 3: hey remember our weekends when we used to like do 179 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 3: more fun stuff. What happened to that? So this is 180 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 3: a work in progress. But I will say my planning 181 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 3: ritual is generally to do my planning on Sunday. That 182 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 3: is my like I sit there, I do what I 183 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 3: call the week on the board, you know, I fill 184 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:50,319 Speaker 3: in the whole board for next week, figure out where 185 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 3: the activities are, and I do include the following weekend. 186 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 3: So I am starting to think through like do we 187 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 3: have a birthday party? Do we have something fun? But 188 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 3: I haven't done a lot of what you were just 189 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 3: talking about, and I absolutely miss it. Whether that is 190 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 3: my own stuff, and sometimes that's already in there, which 191 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 3: is great, and I put it on the board and 192 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 3: I get to think about it and it's fun or 193 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 3: stuff that involves me and the kids, but it's still 194 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 3: fun for maybe everyone, like visiting some local farm or 195 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 3: something like that that, like I know, will be have 196 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,959 Speaker 3: some elements of pleasantness, even if, of course every moment 197 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 3: isn't going to be bliss. So yeah, my method is 198 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 3: to do it on Sunday, and that gives me enough. 199 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 3: You know, I have about six days in advance to 200 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 3: plan up to the next weekend. Although I love your 201 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,679 Speaker 3: double planning method, I just don't tend to do a 202 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 3: lot of my home type of planning during the week 203 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 3: these days, just because of the way my work calendar flows. 204 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 3: And so I think I could do what you're doing, 205 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 3: I just need to do more of it. When I 206 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 3: do that Sunday planning. 207 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,599 Speaker 2: Well, when do you tighten up the weekend r I 208 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 2: mean because I assume that like stuff comes up in 209 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 2: the course of the week that will need to then 210 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 2: happen on the weekend. 211 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 3: Every once in a while it does. It's more like 212 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 3: stuff will just get slotted into where there's already blank space, 213 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 3: and you know, I'll write it on the board and 214 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 3: talk about it with the kids. But that's much more 215 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 3: like what falls into my lap, like oh, a kid 216 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 3: gets invited to this more impromptu thing, and much less 217 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 3: of like let's all do this thing. And again, I 218 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 3: think that's what we're missing, but I don't know that 219 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 3: that has happened later. I think we could even have 220 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 3: things tentatively done by the Sunday. We can always move them, 221 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 3: but having some ideas in place would be good. I 222 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 3: do tend to plan my like pilates, so like anything 223 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 3: that needs to be reserved in advance that would be 224 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 3: like fun for me or that I enjoy. I'm still 225 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 3: doing that. 226 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, well you know this, we're pivoting. 227 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 2: And they said, this discussion of the things you plan 228 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 2: in which you know, I like to talk about anchor 229 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 2: events for your weekend or one big adventure and one 230 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 2: little adventure. 231 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: But all of this is something to adjust. 232 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:49,559 Speaker 2: As your kids get older, because they're not going to 233 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 2: want to do all of these things with you, right, 234 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 2: But you could start to revisit this, like, oh wait, 235 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 2: I can choose things for myself, right, And especially if 236 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 2: you have older kids who probably will be around and 237 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 2: taking care of your younger kids isn't a huge ask. 238 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 2: And especially you know, if your youngest kid is maybe 239 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 2: eight or nine, and you have a thirteen year old, 240 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 2: a fifteen year old whatever, they're not having to do 241 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,959 Speaker 2: hands on babysitting for that person. You can start putting 242 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 2: in your own stuff even if other people don't want 243 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:20,839 Speaker 2: to do things. But we'll talk about that in a 244 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 2: minute when we come back from our first ad break. Well, 245 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 2: we are back talking all things weekends. We've been talking 246 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 2: about anchor events, and I think when we have little kids, 247 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 2: we think about, Okay, we're going to put in a 248 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 2: trip to the zoo today, we are going to put 249 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 2: in a trip to the aquarium today. Now there becomes 250 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 2: a point where the kids absolutely do not want to 251 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 2: go to the zoo or the aquarium with you. This 252 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 2: sounds like the worst possible thing in the world. Sometimes 253 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 2: they would have a good time if they went. We 254 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 2: have certainly convinced some children to do things like this, 255 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 2: but you have to sort of keep your expectations in 256 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 2: check for that. But generally you want to ask yourself 257 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 2: going into the weekend, what do I want to remember 258 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 2: from this weekend? Is there something I'm going to do 259 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 2: this weekend that if people were saying, hey, Sarah, how 260 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 2: is your weekend, you would say on Monday morning, you know, oh, yeah, 261 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 2: this is what we did this weekend, or this is 262 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 2: what I did this weekend. So what is that thing 263 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 2: going to be? And you can plan in a small 264 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 2: number of those things over the course of the weekend 265 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 2: that you would be excited about. So, what are some 266 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 2: recent anchor events or adventures. 267 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 1: That you have had, Sarah? 268 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 3: Recent anchor events? Well, last weekend, we actually had a 269 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:45,319 Speaker 3: fun work event and it was on a Friday night, 270 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 3: which is not my typical evening of going out, but 271 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 3: they threw this sizeable party and I was determined to 272 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 3: do it and I did. I actually went straight from work. 273 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 3: I brought an outfit with me so I could change 274 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 3: out of my scrubs, and that is that did turn 275 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 3: out to be like a really memorable part of the weekend. 276 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 3: I guess amusing last weekend as an example. My other 277 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 3: bink anchor was impromptu and I did not plan it. 278 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 3: But on Sunday morning, I realized that it was Taylor 279 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 3: Swift's release movie, and why would I not go to that? 280 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 3: So I just said to the kids, like, who would 281 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 3: like to come with me? And I got one taker 282 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 3: and I took her with me and we had a 283 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 3: great time. So that was an example of one where 284 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 3: I didn't do a ton of planning ahead. I mean, 285 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 3: obviously I had that invitation for a while sitting there, 286 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 3: but I was able to carve out some fun things. 287 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 3: So I guess that's my best example of a recent weekend. 288 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe that the work event was your like big 289 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 2: Adventure in the Taylor Swift movie is like your Little 290 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 2: Adventure or something like that, if we're going. 291 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 1: To look at that rubric. 292 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say that the work event was at 293 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 3: a totally new venue and it was not something we 294 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,319 Speaker 3: do all the time, So I think I get Big 295 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 3: Adventure for that one. Yeah. 296 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 2: Well, I was thinking back to some previous weekends I did. 297 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 2: Oh a couple WEEKDS ago, I went to a Phillies 298 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 2: game on Friday. It was actually some friends had rented 299 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 2: out a suite for a birthday party, so that was 300 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 2: a lot of fun. And then biked Valley Forage with 301 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 2: some of my kids on one of the days. Another 302 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 2: recent weekend, I went to Longwood Gardens, you know, on 303 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 2: a solo trip. Actually again because you could do your 304 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 2: own solo adventures. You don't have to get people to 305 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 2: come with you, if you don't have to not do 306 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 2: things even if nobody else wants to do anything. And 307 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 2: went out to dinner with a friend. Another weekend, I 308 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 2: went apple picking with Ruth. That required some bribery to 309 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 2: get her to do with me, but we had a 310 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 2: good time. And then I went to Chanticlare, which is 311 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 2: another botanical garden. This past weekend I sang in a concert, 312 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 2: so that was kind of a big adventure. We did 313 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 2: family brunch with all seven of us because Jasper was 314 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 2: home visiting for the weekend. So lots of little things 315 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 2: that are fun to do. But you know, those are 316 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 2: examples of things you would say you remembered from the weekend, 317 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 2: right Like I could look back and say, oh, yeah, 318 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 2: that's what I did that weekend, And if you were 319 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 2: going to have this conversation on Monday totally. 320 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 3: And I like your thought about the time slots, and 321 00:14:57,480 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 3: I think there was a time. So the timeslots that 322 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 3: you've had done on the weekend or like Friday night, 323 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 3: Saturday day, Saturday after an internight, Sunday day, Sunday night, 324 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 3: you don't have to have something huge planned for all 325 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 3: of those. In fact, I would argue that for most 326 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 3: people that would be too much to have like five 327 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 3: big slotted things. But maybe if you have two of them, 328 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 3: like one's a big adventure, one's a little adventure, and 329 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 3: a lot of the rest is purposeful down time and 330 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 3: maybe a little bit of depending on when you do 331 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 3: your kind of household rejuvenation stuff, one block of like 332 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 3: okay at grocery shop, I get ready for the week, 333 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 3: confine it to a block so it's not taking over 334 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 3: your entire weekend. But there can be a balance there, 335 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 3: And I think taking the intimidation out of I have 336 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 3: to plan every minute or have every single one of 337 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 3: them have something big and memorable in them will take 338 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 3: the pressure off of some people who might just find 339 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 3: this to seem like a lot. 340 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but it could. 341 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 2: Be little things and I think I had originally started 342 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 2: thinking of this because you know, when you have little kids, 343 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 2: you have the nap, So when you have to do 344 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 2: something before the nap, right, get out and do your 345 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 2: adventure for the day, then come on minutes. Then you 346 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 2: always want to have a little something for after the 347 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 2: nap because otherwise, when the beltdown happens, it's only four 348 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 2: o'clock and you've got hours till bedtime. So if you 349 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 2: can push that forward a little bit and have something 350 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 2: that's distracting everyone, that that can be great. 351 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 3: But yeah, that's the worst slot. I agree with you 352 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 3: with the post map pre dinner. Oh, especially if you 353 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 3: have a partner that's like working that day and is 354 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 3: maybe not going to come home for dinner or is 355 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 3: going to be late, Like oh my gosh, you need something. 356 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but you know, Friday night, even having an 357 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 2: intention for Friday night, if if that's like a fun 358 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 2: dinner with your family, you're going to make or a 359 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 2: special dessert, something to welcome the weekend in. 360 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 3: And then I would also be Nightriday. 361 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, careful about actually thinking of if there is something 362 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 2: you would like to do on Sunday evening. 363 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: And now I know that Sunday evening is like a 364 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: work night, right. 365 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 2: You know, it's a school night, as we say, so 366 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 2: it won't be late, and it probably won't be elaborate. 367 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 2: But having something you are looking forward to on Sunday 368 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 2: evening can actually help with those Sunday scaries that sometimes 369 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 2: people get because instead of spending all of Sunday afternoon 370 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 2: thinking about Monday morning, you're spending Sunday afternoon. 371 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 1: Thinking about whatever fun thing you are doing on Sunday evening. 372 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 2: So that can be a way to make your weekends 373 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 2: a little bit more enjoyable too. 374 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 1: Another idea we. 375 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 2: Talked about adventures, and these can be your own adventures too, 376 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 2: But make sure you plan in some me time. So 377 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:15,880 Speaker 2: what do you want to do for you this weekend, 378 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 2: and specifically, are there are times you're going to exercise, 379 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:21,479 Speaker 2: like what sort of exercise do you think you are 380 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 2: going to do? Is there a hobby you want to 381 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:27,719 Speaker 2: make space for? And also do you have things that 382 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:32,199 Speaker 2: you are consciously choosing to do during any downtime? And 383 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 2: I think it helps to go into your weekend with 384 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:35,880 Speaker 2: a little bit of intention about this, because otherwise it's 385 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 2: very easy to just read headlines half heartedly. Check email, 386 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:42,640 Speaker 2: scroll around on social media, put her around the house 387 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 2: half heartedly picking things up, but not really because you know, 388 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 2: you kind of go to another room and then there's 389 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 2: something that needs to be put away, and then you 390 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 2: go to another room and there's something that you never 391 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 2: really relax. So you want something compelling to do during 392 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 2: your downtime, you know, good idea. Maybe too, if you 393 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:58,439 Speaker 2: go to the library, do this sort of late in 394 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:00,119 Speaker 2: the week so you have your new books ready for 395 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 2: the weekend. 396 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 1: You're a bookstore if you're doing that. 397 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 2: Or maybe it's that if you like to do puzzles, 398 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 2: you're sure you have one going for the weekend, or 399 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 2: whatever it is. You've laid in a good stack of magazines, 400 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 2: how about you, Sarah. 401 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, reading is a huge one. I feel like if 402 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 3: I have a fiction book that I'm into, I often 403 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:19,159 Speaker 3: look forward to just having a block of time or 404 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:21,199 Speaker 3: I'm going to be in my bed with that book 405 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 3: and maybe like finish it or read forty percent of 406 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 3: it or something like that. And that usually happens while 407 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 3: my kids are playing video games, let's be real, that's what, 408 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,919 Speaker 3: or doing homework depending on what people have do the 409 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 3: next day, So that tends to be one of my 410 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:38,239 Speaker 3: sort of big defaults. Another thing which I'm experimenting with 411 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 3: that is new is I just got a print subscription 412 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:42,159 Speaker 3: to the New York Times, so that kind of like 413 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 3: it's there. And then on Sunday mornings, if you want 414 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 3: to have a relaxed morning, you bring the print thing 415 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 3: to the table, you have your coffee, and I mean 416 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 3: for me, I mostly like read book reviews, but that's fun. 417 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, well then you know what books you're gonna read. 418 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 2: And again, this is something that would just not work 419 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 2: if you have an eighteen month old, right, like, yeah, 420 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 2: you know, you're trying to sit there and read your 421 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:01,719 Speaker 2: coffee and they're screaming. 422 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: You have to get up and get something for them. 423 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:06,400 Speaker 2: And then you know, it's just aggravating to the nth 424 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 2: degree to like want to relax and not be able to. 425 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 2: And so again we have to have different expectations, like 426 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 2: when you have little kids, your weekends are gonna be 427 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 2: planned around what you're gonna. 428 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: Do that's fun for them. 429 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 2: And then if you want downtime, which your course, you're 430 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 2: gonna want downtime, you need to actively plan it in 431 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 2: like you trade off with your partner. 432 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 1: Okay, you get Sunday morning to do your thing. 433 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 2: I get Saturday morning to do my thing, or we 434 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,199 Speaker 2: each take three hours on Saturday afternoon and do our 435 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 2: own thing and then we you know, even I think 436 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 2: it would be a good idea to map out who 437 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 2: is on with the little kids when you're all in 438 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 2: the house, right so that mom, because let's be real, 439 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:44,919 Speaker 2: it's going to be mom who would be the default 440 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 2: in most cases, can in fact relax at the house 441 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 2: because she knows that somebody is actively on with the 442 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 2: kid and that's got to be mapped out. But you 443 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 2: don't if they are not little kids anymore. 444 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:02,199 Speaker 3: And I would put on huge encouragement to if you 445 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 3: do map something like this out, try to leave. And 446 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 3: I know you heard me talk about lying in my 447 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 3: bed and reading books, and that's what you really want 448 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 3: to do. You're tired, and you're like, but you can't. 449 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 3: It's very unlike you're gonna hear screams, You're gonna hear fights, 450 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 3: Like it's gonna be better. See what you can think 451 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 3: of that would be relaxing and rejuvenating if that's what 452 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 3: you're looking for that is not in your home. One 453 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 3: thing to think about would be an exercise class that 454 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 3: does not feel like hard work or torture like a 455 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 3: yin yoga class, for example, it's like, you know what, 456 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,120 Speaker 3: you're gonna get to be quiet and lay on pillows 457 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 3: and you'll be left alone, or going to Starbucks for 458 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 3: an hour and getting your favorite drink and reading a 459 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 3: book or something like that, because if you have had 460 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 3: this discussion of a swap, you want to make the 461 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 3: most of those hours and it's just going to probably 462 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 3: be difficult if you're staying in your own home. If 463 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 3: they're home now, if they. 464 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,159 Speaker 2: Left, great, Yeah, then you get to do what you 465 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 2: want at home, which is even better, Sarah. You like 466 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 2: to do some baking projects sometimes, right, Like this is 467 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 2: a thing that happens on weekends. 468 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a fit really common thing on and 469 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 3: this you know when your kids are like not eighteen months, 470 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 3: but maybe like four or five and older, you know, 471 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:10,360 Speaker 3: in that age group where you know, this could potentially 472 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 3: be something that you do as a something to do 473 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 3: after nap time kind of a thing that also is 474 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 3: somewhat productive because hey, you'll have those pumpkin muffins for 475 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 3: the morning or whatever you decide to put together. But 476 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 3: I like it even more when I can do it 477 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 3: by myself. 478 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's relaxing. Cooking by yourself can be relaxing. 479 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 2: Cooking with people underfoot not so much. 480 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: With this. 481 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 2: One idea is that you could choose things that are 482 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 2: that could be chores, like cooking or baking, but you 483 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,159 Speaker 2: can do them for fun. However, most of us do 484 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,239 Speaker 2: have some sort of chores we have to do on 485 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 2: the weekend, So with that, you might want to set 486 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 2: a small window for doing those things so they are 487 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:52,360 Speaker 2: not always possibilities. Right, So we're a big fan of 488 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 2: like outsourcing housekeeping, getting groceries delivered or anything like that. 489 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 2: But if you are doing those things, maybe you say, okay, 490 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 2: we clean house from ten thirty to noon on Saturday morning. 491 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,640 Speaker 2: Everyone participates outside of that, we are not cleaning the house, 492 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 2: and you will probably get the things that most had 493 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 2: to happen done during that time. And then you know, 494 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,199 Speaker 2: if you're finding yourself looking at a dirty floor on 495 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,120 Speaker 2: Friday night, you're not spending all of Friday night cleaning 496 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 2: out because you know there's a time for that Saturday 497 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,400 Speaker 2: morning and most of the things will get done. 498 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 3: Then, Yeah, compartmentalizing sounds awesome. I definitely think if you're 499 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 3: looking for kid participation in any chores and your kids 500 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 3: are older again, then that eighteen month window, having a 501 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 3: deal that they have to pick up XYZ before they 502 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 3: turn on their game of choice can be incredibly effective. 503 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, and with that, we often have these projects we 504 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 2: want to get done on the weekend. We're like, oh, well, 505 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 2: this is the time I'm going to clean out the garage, 506 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 2: this is the time that I'm going to organize everyone's 507 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 2: winter clothes or whatever it is. And that's fine because again, 508 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 2: you probably are going to do it on the weekend 509 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 2: and not during the week. However, you want to make 510 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,640 Speaker 2: sure that you only bite off the amount you can 511 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 2: chew on a weekend and the amount that's not going 512 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 2: to make you feel stressed and like you are a 513 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 2: failure when you don't finish it. So I would suggest 514 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,159 Speaker 2: making yourself a very short weekend to do list, like 515 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 2: the things that absolutely have to happen, and you can 516 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 2: do one thing beyond maybe two if it's a low 517 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:19,400 Speaker 2: key weekend, but one or two things beyond basic life maintenance. 518 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 2: So yeah, you know you're gonna do the laundry and 519 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:24,120 Speaker 2: grocery shopping. But if there is one or two other 520 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 2: small things you are going to do. Set that as 521 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 2: a goal for yourself, and then only do that, and 522 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 2: then you'll accomplish it and you'll feel good. So a 523 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 2: previous weekend, I decided I was going to clean off 524 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 2: the shelves in the upstairs movie room. Right, they'd gotten 525 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:37,919 Speaker 2: really cluttered over the course of the past year with 526 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 2: nobody putting things away. 527 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: So I went and did that. They look better. That 528 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 1: was my thing for the weekend. Nothing else. 529 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 3: I did that with my book decluttering, like you know, 530 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:50,439 Speaker 3: I'm trying to organize and declutter key areas, and putting 531 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 3: an entire room on my list for the Sunday would 532 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 3: have made me do absolutely nothing. But I'm like, oh, 533 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 3: I'm going to do is go to my bookshelf and 534 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 3: figure out what books I'm ready to donate. 535 00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: And I did it there and they're diaty. 536 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 3: Go, they're in the garage, they're out of the house, 537 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 3: so we're good. 538 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:02,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. 539 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 2: And if you have a big project, you're like, we 540 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 2: have to clean out the garage. Spread it over like 541 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 2: six weekends, right and look at it. Shine a specifical task. Yes, 542 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 2: this idea shelf is this weekend, that shelf is next weekend. 543 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,199 Speaker 2: This pile on the floor is the next weekend, and 544 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 2: you will get through it and you will not feel overwhelmed. 545 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 2: We're gonna take one more quick ad break and then 546 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:34,400 Speaker 2: we will be back with more on making good weekends. Well, 547 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 2: we are back talking all things weekends, how to create enjoyable, 548 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,880 Speaker 2: relaxing weekends, with the caveat, of course, that our youngest 549 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 2: children are now at the age where they don't have 550 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 2: to be constantly supervised. So if you have young kids, 551 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 2: we understand that weekends are not automatically relaxing, and there 552 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 2: are certain strategies you can do consciously trading off with 553 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 2: your partner or hiring childcare for a few hours. We'll 554 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 2: discuss that more in a little bit. But you can 555 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 2: also have the mindset that I should enjoy my weekends 556 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 2: and this goes a long way toward making weekends more enjoyable. 557 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 2: Pursuing pleasure and consciously pursuing pleasure is really a two 558 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 2: step process. I mean one, you want to solve any 559 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,679 Speaker 2: pain points. Is there anything you can do that you 560 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 2: find on weekends very painful that you can solve? So? 561 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 2: Are you driving all day to kids sporting events? According 562 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 2: to your plan? That you're looking at, Well, do you 563 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 2: need to do that? Can you spread that around with 564 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 2: other people? Can you skip one of them? 565 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:32,919 Speaker 1: I don't know. 566 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:34,640 Speaker 2: Is there something that could happen or is there something 567 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,400 Speaker 2: fun you can do there? Like is there a cool 568 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 2: bookstore that's nearby the soccer place that you could spend 569 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 2: your time there or go for a run while you're 570 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 2: there instead of just feeling like you've lost your entire 571 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 2: weekend to this. 572 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely think this is where trade offs come 573 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 3: in as well. If you know that there are a 574 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,919 Speaker 3: couple of kid birthday parties and two parents, then you 575 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:55,919 Speaker 3: are not maybe two of them is going to make 576 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 3: the weekend feel like too much, but one of them 577 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 3: would be okay. Then embrace the socialista, so the one 578 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 3: you choose to go to, and then figure out how 579 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,160 Speaker 3: you can swap off for the other one. 580 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 1: Yeah. 581 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 2: I mean, maybe there's one that, like you would be 582 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 2: particularly more excited about doing than you know your spouse 583 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 2: doesn't hate chuck E cheese. 584 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 1: I don't know, whatever you can work out between the 585 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:15,640 Speaker 1: two of you. 586 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,919 Speaker 2: And you can also you solve the pain points and 587 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 2: then also come up with little ways you can up 588 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 2: the pleasure factor. 589 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 1: Like, what are you eating on the weekend? Have you 590 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 1: thought through your meals? 591 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 2: Like are there good things to eat in your house 592 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 2: so you're excited about like your Saturday morning breakfast? 593 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: Right, you're not just you know, eating cold cereal again? 594 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 2: Or something we talked about having good things to read, 595 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 2: Like if it's pretty outside, are you going to get 596 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,719 Speaker 2: outside at some point? Are you listening to fun music 597 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 2: while you're in the car, Like do you have something 598 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 2: good to listen to? You know what you want to 599 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 2: listen to? Like, think about ways you can push a 600 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,160 Speaker 2: little bit more pleasure into the crevices of your weekend. 601 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, even a favorite show that you're going to watch, 602 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 3: or I don't know, if you have to take a 603 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 3: kid to Target to get thing? Can you spend ten 604 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 3: minutes in this section of your choice, like maybe looking 605 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 3: at all the stationary and planners for next year? You 606 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 3: know things like. 607 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 1: That could be done. Sounds fun? Yeah? 608 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 2: No, I mean when you do all these things, you 609 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 2: know you plan ahead when you consider the anchor advents 610 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,159 Speaker 2: or adventures you want to be talking about that you 611 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 2: remember on Monday morning when you going through my list here, 612 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,439 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. When you plan in me time, you 613 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 2: think through your downtime, you compress your chores and errands, 614 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 2: and then you consciously pursue pleasure. You can have really 615 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 2: awesome weekends, and we want that for everyone listening to this. 616 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,160 Speaker 2: So today's question is related to this, though, which is 617 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,199 Speaker 2: that somebody wrote in that I work full time, and 618 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 2: not coincidentally, we also have full time childcare. Is it 619 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,199 Speaker 2: okay to hire a babysitter for a few hours on 620 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 2: the weekend. I know it might be okay for the 621 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 2: occasional date night, but what about like regularly during the day. 622 00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 1: I feel guilty about this, Sarah, what do you think? 623 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, Well, I love your answer, but I 624 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 3: will just tell you that I used to do this 625 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 3: I don't need to do it anymore again, because I'm 626 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 3: at a different stage. But there was a time in 627 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,400 Speaker 3: my life when I fairly regularly would get someone from 628 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,199 Speaker 3: like I don't know, ten to two or something like 629 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 3: that on a Saturday, especially if Josh was on call, 630 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,159 Speaker 3: so I knew there was like really no switching off 631 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,639 Speaker 3: to be had, And oh my gosh, the difference that 632 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 3: those few hours made in my happiness was immense. The 633 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 3: difference that those hours made in my children's life was 634 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 3: zero or maybe even positive because they got a break 635 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 3: from me, they had fun with their babysitter, they got 636 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 3: to do something else, and the idea looking back on 637 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 3: having like really any in trepidation about that. It seems 638 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 3: so crazy because also, like doing the math, Laura's teaches 639 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 3: us how many hours we have, and four hours out 640 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 3: of your whole weekend is not even that significant, but 641 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 3: it's gonna feel significant if it's a difference between you 642 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 3: having no time for yourself and you having time too. 643 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 3: I used to go to it's not even open anymore, 644 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 3: but I used to go to a fly bar at 645 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 3: bar class. I felt all fancy. That was an example 646 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 3: of a fitness class that wasn't torture. So it was like, 647 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 3: I'm getting out of the house, I'm doing something for myself, 648 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 3: and it's also not even that hard, so it's just fun. 649 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. 650 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, obviously, if you're not seeing your kid at. 651 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 1: All during the week, I don't know. 652 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 2: If you're one of those people who is in fact 653 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 2: gone constantly and all that, then maybe you probably should 654 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 2: focus your weekends on spend family time. But I'm guessing 655 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 2: very few people listening to this fall into that category, 656 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 2: and hiring a few hours sitter for a few hours 657 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 2: on a weekend can be life changing. I mean, obviously, 658 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 2: trading off with your spouse is a very straightforward thing 659 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 2: to do and cost nothing, and so most people can 660 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 2: avail themselves of that immediately in order to. 661 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 1: Get more meat time. 662 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 2: Now, if that doesn't work for whatever reason, or if 663 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 2: you too want to spend some time together which is 664 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 2: also allowed, which is also allowed, then this is where 665 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 2: bringing in somebody else can be helpful. And I would 666 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 2: point out that many people who live near grandparents, and 667 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 2: if the grandparents want to be helpful like and drop 668 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 2: the kids off at Grandma's for a few hours and 669 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 2: get that time together, if you don't have that available, again, 670 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 2: the paid help is just approximating either your spouse, your 671 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 2: extended family, or anything like that. If those things are 672 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 2: not available to you, So yeah, go for it. I mean, 673 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 2: you might want to think about when would be most strategic. 674 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 2: I mean, obviously, sometimes sitters like to have enough hours 675 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 2: to make it worth their while, So maybe you might 676 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 2: do something like three o'clock to nine o'clock on Saturday, 677 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 2: right so you would miss the post nap meltdown, they'd 678 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 2: get fresh blood in there for that. 679 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 1: You could go. 680 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 2: Work out, or you guys each could go see a 681 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 2: friend and then you meet up for dinner or a 682 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 2: movie afterwards and have your Saturday night date. And that 683 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 2: would be a great way to feel like you really 684 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 2: got a weekend and that Saturday was fun as opposed 685 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 2: to being all the work of caring for children, because again, 686 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 2: I mean it's fun. Like, we love babies, we have 687 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 2: a ton of them, but they are a lot of work, 688 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 2: and especially if you are the person who's primarily caring 689 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 2: for them, they are a lot of work and you 690 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 2: wind up with very little time to relax, and people 691 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 2: need time to relax. 692 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 1: That's one of the things that make people feel most stressed. 693 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 3: Totally agree, So we give you a full permission slip signed. 694 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, exactly, all right, So love of the week 695 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 2: mine is I'm going to say kids who are old 696 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 2: enough to babysit, because it so makes the logistics easier. 697 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 2: I'm pondering, I mean, we just need a lot more 698 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 2: help if we didn't have that now. But the fact 699 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 2: that you can like leave most of my kids by 700 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 2: themselves for a bit, and two of them who are 701 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 2: home right now can be left in charge of others. 702 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 2: It makes everything so much easier to figure out, which 703 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 2: I appreciate it totally. 704 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 3: Well, mine is something simple, But I don't want to 705 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 3: take this for granted. I love reservations like the fact 706 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 3: that you can make sure to even book online, not 707 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 3: even have to talk to anyone, and then know that 708 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 3: you're going to have like a table big enough for 709 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 3: your family at a restaurant at a time you guys 710 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 3: want to eat. That is so nice because the alternative 711 00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 3: is so frustrating, and so yeah, I embrace it, good 712 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 3: old reservation and I guess we'll add to that apps 713 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 3: like resi or open Table. 714 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 2: Now. 715 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 3: I know they're not always the best thing for restaurants 716 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 3: because sometimes they have to give a portion of whatever, 717 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 3: But if you haven't made a reservation and it's Saturday 718 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 3: night and you have five people or more in your 719 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 3: family so it's like harder to find a table, you 720 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 3: can look to see who has a table available and 721 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 3: actually book it on your phone while you're driving around, 722 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,959 Speaker 3: saving yourself the heartache. So I have both of those 723 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 3: apps on my phone. I use them, and I love it. 724 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, technology is great for having a sufficient information to 725 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 2: make decisions. 726 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 1: Which is very efficient. Love it all right? Well, this 727 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 1: has been best of both worlds. 728 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 2: We've been talking about how to fall in love with 729 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 2: your weekends again. We will be back next week with 730 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 2: more on making work and life fit together. 731 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 3: Thanks for listening. You can find me Sarah at the 732 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 3: shoebox dot com or at the Underscore Shoebox on Instagram. 733 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 1: And you can find me Laura at Laura vandercam dot com. 734 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 3: This has been the best of both worlds podcasts. 735 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 1: Please join us next time for more. 736 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 3: I'm making work and life work together.